'NASA-Inspired Works of Fiction:' the masses speak!

*I asked for commentary on the subject of an earlier post here, and I got it.

https://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2011/08/design-fiction-nasa-inspired-works-of-fiction/

Posted by: zerode1 | 08/23/11 | 5:26 pm
I can see why you might be troubled. It’s the “NASA inspired Works of Fiction” tagline that really stood out for me, in all sorts of ways. There is something weird, and maybe a bit sleazy, about having something like this, and it does feel different than say “Warhammer Inspired” or “Authorized Halo Adventure” or something like that - and it does have to do with the government angle.

It’s weird too in that so much of science fiction in the past 40 years could be labelled “NASA inspired.”

You can see though why they might want to do this: grab some mind share; build up some good will for their brand. NASA’s never been great at playing the publicity game, at least not in recent years. It’s failures seem to always make better copy than its successes.

It made me think of the program that sends writers and artists down to Antarctica - which produces some good work, and some good PR for the programs down there. Stan Robinson’s book Antarctica was neat and smart. But they don’t feel the need to put that big stamp on the cover. I don’t think it is unethical… just a bit weird at first glance. Write what you were going to write anyway - I bet it’ll fit.

Posted by: Jane94 | 08/23/11 | 7:14 pm
As far as your part in it, it all depends on what you write, really, doesn’t it? If you write some pretty puff piece that overhypes the potential good and overlooks the potential bad, that’s unethical. But that’s just not really your style, is it? I love the idea of putting someone like Oscar Valparaiso into NASA and seeing where it went, I can’t imagine your take on NASA not being a great and educational read. NASA might not like where it went, but they can’t really restrict stories about them to what they approve, it’s not like we wouldn’t buy it from you without their seal of approval. The average guy might need their seal of approval to be heard, that’s sort of a different question. But there too, any well-written efforts rejected for not being pro-NASA enough might still get published elsewhere, if only on someone’s blog.

It could be a great vehicle for NASA insiders with important things to say who are not getting listened to to get the real word out under pseudonyms, they are sharp folks, science fiction is all about finding ways to say it without stepping on your nondisclosure agreements and the like. And just for folks with ideas in general to get them heard, some of them won’t be flaky.

For NASA I don’t think it’s unethical, but I love the potential for it to turn out to be more educational than they expect. I love the fact that if it turns out that way and they wake up and actually learn from the criticism and suggestions, it will be just the change they need as an institution. You could probably do that story and be eerily accurate, meta the whole thing for them, it does seem to have potential for just the sort of untended consequences you write so brilliantly about. Also a certain amount of potential self-fulfilling prophecy, but that would be all to the good, I still love my NASA, grew up on Apollo launches and Heinlein, but they need to get less Dilbert, and normal channels ain’t working, where better to try Heinlein-style social engineering?

I would love to hear your take on NASA. You are just the person to do it right. You know/wrote Lekhi and Pulat, who better to do NASA, seriously? It’s far from just them, but they alone would be enough. My vote is do it, I want to read it.

Posted by: hapa | 08/23/11 | 7:25 pm ok

  1. what if kennedy said, “I therefore ask the Congress, above and beyond the increases I have earlier requested for space activities, to provide the funds which are needed to meet the following national goals: First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of writing a series of books about going to the moon.”
  1. what if al-qaeda had opened an extremist anti-space book shop to which our nation must respond.

  2. etc etc

america is shutting the lights on many public science programs, some very useful, and no small matter at this juncture on earth.

nativism is an obvious & common defense against these cuts.
maybe from a short-term public-benefit POV, in turning the country’s attention to the real vs politicized present, there’s a case for promoting american science & tech and american public investment in them. to me the question then goes back to #1: is this the most effective way?

Posted by: oldmateo | 08/23/11 | 9:54 pm

This chimes in perfectly with the ongoing 20th century narrative of fictionalized futures. The selling of techno-futures begins with Edison’s films of incandescent light at the 1901 World’s Fair and has continued with corporate nation building exercises like the World of Tomorrow by GE at the 1939 New York iteration and on through countless other examples to the tub thumping of the economic war machine post 9/11. We may be in the throws of a seeping darkness amidst what you refer to as Gothic High Tech but the collective ambitions of gadget manufacturers and digital lifestyle corporations - and now it would seem national space agencies - is to maintain the triumphalism of technology through glossy exteriors, artist’s interpretations and speculative news feeds.

The dream machine needs NASA’s potent mix of high-rez Hubble images and Mars rovers, but it also needs the human touch - the Right Stuff iconography. NASA is no doubt looking for its Jimmy Stewart, Harrison Ford iconic moment to feed into the viral mass culture propaganda machine. Yet it will have to be made of some pretty fantastic stuff (ie lay off the “scientifically accurate” promise) if it is to compete with Hobbits, Zombies and Bird Flu.

The haunting of the complex - and often misunderstood - operations of rapidly evolving technology (EG : the web = identity theft, cyberwar, UK Riot machine, etc) is a prevailing mediated terror to limit our engagement with the darker images lurking in the pipes. This is balanced against the fear that haunts the likes of NASA, Facebook and others that we may in fact turn away from the edge and retreat. The social media dreaming becomes the “retreat to the green fields nightmare”.

As you say, the fruits of the network are in our pockets but only for a few hundred million of us. The panic that seems to have set in as NASA is consigned to a bot shop for silicon space pioneers would appear to be misplaced. We believe in NASA, we always have, from all over the globe. It seems pure if a bit hokey. So doesn’t this pause in manned flight provide the opportunity for quality research into more pressing issues? Sustainable modes of transport and alternative energy systems for instance? Which may lead to a longer reach into deep space and a more sustainable future here on earth?

Obviously a great time to kick back and write some speculative fiction too.

Posted by: Bruce Sterling | 08/24/11 | 12:57 pm

*I appreciate these thoughtful acts of moral counsel and I am reading them with care.
Here are some comments on the subject from Twitter:

@bruces Right, because it's good for people with imagination, to point out to those without what may become fact

@bruces - And it'd be worth it for the experience, however compromised the final result. Right? Tor seem like good guys.

@bruces Not sure if it is "right or wrong" either, but might be tough to avoid being stamped as agitpropist. Hmm, is kinda retro-soviet.

@bruces - Depends how much Kool Aid they make you drink?

@bruces while NASA is nationalistic to some degree, earth science and space exploration are good for the world, not just USA.

@bruces Seems that NASA has more of a public (and global) interest than random SF publishers. Wouldn't that be less conflicted not more?

@bruces imho it's not only right, but required. We need all the inspiration we can to get off this almost barren rock, before it is too late.

@Mijder @allenvarney @bruces we won't be meeting any green people or sipping martinis on the moon any time soon.

@bruces we had a look at that whole colonisation thing and the numbers didn't work out. SPACE! IT'S GREAT!"

@AllenVarney @bruces "Space? Isn't it wonderful! Maybe we can send a robot there, You won't be going. "

@bruces Seems like an attempt to artificially recreate Heinlein and Clarke juveniles but without a space future.

@bruces You could test it by writing something very critical and see if they let it fly . . .

@bruces I see it as being the authorial equivalent to NASA-funded concept art: settlement.arc.nasa.gov/70sArt/art.html

@bruces Whether right/wrong seems a secondary question to do Americans really read SF to be edified/inspired. (Does anyone anymore?)

@bruces In this case, the ends – science awareness – justify the means.

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@bruces I don't see anything wrong with it. Of course, I stopped taking NASA seriously more than a decade ago.

@bruces They're like a Geritol band who still has the occasional minor hit, but whose nostalgia for their 60s/70s heyday has grown tiresome.

@bruces Even down to the weird little brand-thinning side projects like this.

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