Yeah, they just received my check as well, they said order will be shipped within 72 hours. Took 9 days to receive the check though

I just received an order of 30 Spier modafinil tablets. I will say I was pretty skeptical - I didn't notice until after I placed my order that Spier products aren't sold on any other websites. Once I got the pills, they came in three blister packs, no box or anything, and the pills are brittle and unmarked.

But I'm taking an organic chemistry class now, and I got to thinking - maybe I could perform chemical tests to see if the functional groups of modafinil are present in the pills I received. Modafinil is a sulfa drug, containing a certain chemical group called a sulfonamide group. And lo and behold I stumbled across a simple pair of chemical tests for sulfonamides.

I took about a third of a pill and placed it in a test tube, adding a few ml of dilute NaOH. I then mixed it up and heated it over an alcohol burner. This should produce ammonia, which has a really characteristic odor. I got a whiff of my tube and, indeed, it was ammonia! I also tested the fumes with a piece of litmus paper - it turned blue, as expected.

Then I put another third of a pill in another test tube and added dilute HCl. Upon heating it, sulfur dioxide should be produced - another gas with a characteristic, pungent odor. So I sniffed my tube - it smelled awful! Further, my litmus paper turned red, which is what I'd expect because SO2 is acidic.

Finally, one other test - I wanted to make sure this isn't a characteristic of pill binder substances or anything. So I took half a caffeine pill and did the NaOH -> NH3 test on it. No ammonia whatsoever.

So I conclude that Spier's pills almost certainly do contain modafinil. Conceivably, they could contain a different sulfa drug instead - but that wouldn't make any sense. There aren't any cheap stimulants like caffeine or ephedrine that contain a sulfonamide group, at least to my knowledge. Ditto for binders or fillers that might also be in the pill. Obviously I have no idea how much modafinil is actually in those pills - I'd suspect less than 200 mg based on its price. But I am pretty confident that they really are modafinil, and I'm certain that they're not caffeine pills.

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You are too quick to jump to conclusions. I have used edandmore's spier brand modafinil and I know it is not fake or counterfeit. It may be just a tad weaker than the U.S. domestic version, but it is definitely not fake. If it were, or were just rounded caffeine pills, I would know. I've tried every stimulant known to man.

I don't know why people do those whois searches either. It proves nothing. It certainly doesn't prove a company is selling bogus product.

If you don't like their product, don't buy it. But don't trash their product. I like edandmore. And I don't want them to go out of business. If you're so skeptical, then take their pills and hire a company to run them through a gas chromatograph; then if the results still support this notion, then post it here.

Was that addressed to me? I can't see links yet. But if so, please reread my post - you'll see that my crude experiment shows that they are almost certainly modafinil. Obviously it would take a gas chromatograph to know for sure, but what I found was enough to convince me even though I was skeptical at first.

EDIT: Never mind - post wasn't addressed to me after all.

Trajork - QVC's post was directed to CynthiaAlice. I guess you couldn't see her name, because it was a link.

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Oh, I see. Never mind then.
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I agree ed and more is a great vendor....if they have what you want you cant go wrong ordering from them.

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got there before me, but I'll add my agreement because I hate to see new people get off to a bad start because of a misunderstanding. Trajork, I have always thought someone should do what you suggested; not because I doubt the authenticity of edandmore's Spier brand, but just to answer the question with something other than speculation.

The effects of Modafinil seem to vary greatly between individuals, no matter what brand so I think it's pretty brazen to proclaim a drug that works well for many people to be fake. Like QVC, I have tried nearly every stimulant available, and I find edandmore's products to do something entirely different. They are not caffeine or amphetamine. Of that I'm sure. Both the Spier brand and the Sun brand have similar effects for me.

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I still wonder why exactly Spier doesn't sell through other sites as well. Given that they appear to be selling a good product for lower prices than anyone else, it seems like a bad strategy to sell through only a lone website, especially one with a sketchy-sounding name like EDandMore. They could probably make more money by selling to other online pharmacies, and that would make people more confident about buying their meds. Does anybody know where they're really located, and why they only sell through one site?

Honestly, once I found out that Spier only sold through EDandMore, that it was impossible to figure out where they were really located, and that the pills appeared rather poorly made, I was pretty certain I'd been ripped off. I'm pleased to be wrong about that, though!

i ordered provigil pills from them recently dissapointed to find they were sugar pills or the like. i have been prescribed this in the past in the usa. after this expirience with the internet pharmacy i went ahead and paid the extra $$ to buy them in australia where i am currently living from the pharmacy i get all my meds thru. and they worked like i remembered, just fine. so now i am stuck paying more but atleast getting genuine pills. this is the first ever problem i have had with an internet pharmacy as far as pill quality goes. i have ordered lots of various diet drugs with no script, phentermine, bonitril, and the like. Also had no trouble finding and getting Xanax with no script online shipped to the usa many times. also ordered with abconlinepharmacy.com in canada using faxed usa scripts for my antidepressants and such cause they were like a 1/5th the price as the usa.

I've never had "sugar" that tasted sooo bad. And at the risk of sounding less than a lady, I'll add that "sugar" has never added such a strange smell to my urine either.
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Uhh, where did I say it was fake?? I'm still waiting on my order!

Please go back and find the ORIGINAL poster who made that claim then correct your post that references me, pretty please.

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post above about the chemical test he performed on these pills? I'm not saying the pills are fake or real, as I've never taken them, but I thought you might find Trajork's post of interest.

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Sorry, I'm too lazy to go back and re-read things. I'd rather just apologize to you. Sorry if I got it wrong. Somebody on this thread called the pills fake. Whoever that is, maybe they got a bad batch. I've used edandmore several times and always been happy with it.

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Appreciated. Also good to know about edandmore. Still waiting for mine but know shipping takes time regardless of operator.

well i had a bad experience with the pills, when i said 'sugar pills' i just was saying who knows whats in them. i thought they didn't work. i've done every amphetamine and such known to man also and thought they did nothing. ive had scripts for these in the past.

I've gotten some domestic U.S. version of modafinil, the cephalon version, which is 100% legit, and I will admit that in order to get the same effect from the edandmore spierx brand, I have to take two pills of edandmore to equal one pill of the cephalon.

You know, as someone who has also done "every stimulant known to man," I have to wonder, could my abuse of stimulants in the past made me more callous, more immune, or less susceptible to the effects of the spierx brand modafinil? Because coffee doesn't do much of anything for me anymore.

One thing I've tried recently is the methyldrene 25 that you can find off of amazon. One pill has the equivalent of about 2 or 3 cups of coffee, and that definitely has a kick to it. Seeing as they only cost about $20 (or $25 from tfsupplements.com), whereas the edandmore modafinil cost $40, I think the methyldrene is a better deal.

I really wish I had access to a gas chromatograph. I would run everything I get from online pharmacies through a spectrometer and test their purity. I bet the results would be interesting.

I have ordered Soma it is fake or weak I have had the real thing in the US.I won't wast my money or time with this place.

Yep I too have had soma and have eaten about 9 in an hour. Feel nothing except a mild placebo.

still waiting on original order for sun modalert. This is only my 2nd order from this place and I feel like I have given them plenty of time before asking for reship. It has been over a month and I have not recieved. They are reshipping (finally) within the next 72 hrs I am told but they state in their email that they believe i will receive both orders and would I please pay for or send back one of the orders once they arrive. I replied that I would absolutely pay for the price of the product but should I be asked to pay for the shipping as well? I guess I am thinking out loud more than really asking here. I am a very honest person and the kind of person who, if accidentally given even 2 dollars extra change at a grocery store, will drive back to the store just to give it back. I will probably pay the entire amt. Argghhh....not that I can afford all that! I just want the original product I ordered that I know works well!