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[–]Godcranberry 46 points47 points  (0 children)

💀💀💀 We are not getting out of the hood with this one fam.

[–]proj_drk 6 points7 points  (10 children)

I have personally been producing music for a VERY long time now and MusicLM is a rather scary concept. I'm actually quite concerned about the future of music production at this stage... Why you probably ask?

While some of the results it gives are basically just noise, I have actually managed to generate some reasonably cohesive music.

Now, we must bare in mind that this is literally version 0.01 and this tech is only going to get better, more advanced & more accessible.

I have three (edit: 4 now) example tracks which I have built up in FL Studio using chops from the 20 second previews generated within MusicLM. They are available on a newly, purpose made SoundCloud Profile.

Here's the profile in question.

I must stress I am not posting this to promote it but to share what I have discovered about this emerging technology.

I hope someone out there may find this... Enlightening.

[–]Crisis_Averted 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Good stuff already. Is it as easy as looking up MusicLM. For example I don't know what FL studio is.

[–]proj_drk 1 point2 points  (5 children)

To use MusicLM, you need to sign up to Google's AI Test Kitchen, from there you can start generating 20 second previews.

If you want to create extended versions, you could just loop certain parts in Audacity or some other free software.

FL Studio is a full on Digital Audio Workstation where you can produce music from scratch, I used it here to layout the chopped up tracks, add extra effects & tidy up the poor audio quality as much as possible.

[–]gmih 0 points1 point  (4 children)

how long did it take you to get an invite from signing on the waiting list?

[–]proj_drk 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Usually a few hours, signed up with a few emails and longest was 7 hrs

[–]gmih 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Interesting. It's been days for me and no invite yet, same with at least 4 others I know who have signed up 🤔

[–]proj_drk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sorry for late come back here but that's quite crazy! Have you been granted access yet?

[–]gmih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope :( I'm wondering if it's depending on the country you're from. None of the others I know have gotten in yet either, we're all from a small european island.

[–]StaticNocturne▪️ASI 2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm worried about human creativity being devalued - I don't rely on it as a career and I'll always indulge in it for enjoyment, but it will suck when the world is flooded by poetry artwork and music that's on par with what most artists can create.

[–]blueSGL 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you just know one of the big producers is going to use some AI generated stuff in a drop and then that distinctive 'lo-fi' sound is going to become it's own 'thing' that will drive those in the know up the wall.

Like the obsession with animating on twos that is sweeping 3D animation and just looks like they have not taken the animation out of blocking yet / looks like a video game that is halving the animation tick of characters LOD to maintain performance

[–]proj_drk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely right on the money here. Where it could maybe help individual innovation, chances are the majority are just gonna use it as a cheat code, exactly as you describe.

I personally would see it as bad conduct to use AI generated loops in a commercially available project and I'd be extremely disappointed if I heard it getting used on the likes of Spotify / Apple Music / any Live Radio as it stands right now.

I understand that LOD comparison too, it definitely has a half baked kinda feeling going on, as if it's not getting out of 2nd gear. No amount of EQ / Compression can correct it either.

[–]mtksm 5 points6 points  (1 child)

How are you exporting from MusicLM? Am I just not seeing the option?

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Beside each is a trophy and a download button, one of my friend said this too, he was using his phone it seems.

[–]simmol 10 points11 points  (11 children)

Music production used to be a skillset that was developed with years of training/practice. It is really difficult to get all the instruments/sounds to come together to form a coherent whole. Now, people can do this with a click of a button. What a time to be alive but I can't help but acknowledge that there is something sad about all of this.

[–]JoeBlack2027 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Death is sad

[–]Orc_ -1 points0 points  (5 children)

I'm happy the AI revolution has started where it hurts humanity's "soul" the most, honestly. Because it's part of erasing the human ego and human supremacy.

[–]redkaptain 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Is people enjoying things really that bad?

[–]Orc_ -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

People will still enjoy things, the extreme minority of people in most of art will still enjoy things. It's just that it's a great blow to human's sense of pride and that's good.

[–]redkaptain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People enjoy art because of human connection, and when you take the human out of art like AI is doing, it reduces enjoyment.

[–]hamanger 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is a take straight out of Cruelty Squad

[–]Orc_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmm I dont get it, what's it about?

[–]talaxia -1 points0 points  (1 child)

agreed. this really bummed me out.

[–]Mescallan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why? People will still spend years learning it to express themselves through performance. The only difference is now anyone can express themselves, which is a beautiful thing.

The amount of people living off of theirusic is tiny, and that amount isn't going to change anytime soon.

I've been producing for 13 years, if AI was around in 2010, I still would have started learning everything else. It's about the process for a lot of people, not the end result.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ye that was hilariously bad

[–]Calendar_Budget 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My nigga all of these are ass. That said, once this stuff inevitably does improve in a couple months, then we'll be talking.

[–]f3ralstatE 1 point2 points  (5 children)

What about metal music? Or at least just metal guitar?

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It can do it.

[–]f3ralstatE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want it now

[–]lennarn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would like to hear something inspired by the doom soundtrack

[–]jayowai 0 points1 point  (1 child)

https://google-research.github.io/seanet/musiclm/examples/ there's an example here that uses the prompt "death metal". It kinda knows what it is, but the example is not at all convincing. Yet. Obviously it will only get better, but for now, I'd say it can't do metal, at least based on that example.

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I linked at top proof MusicLm became 10,000x worse over 3 months.

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Did you see all my top picks above I present? It aces everything thrown at it - advanced stuff too.

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At least see the lost lava world, the large diamonds in starship, and rin kagamine techno above! Omg, it is the true dream machine for music and even audio.

[–]redkaptain 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't know if I could class typing in prompts as cranking something out. If I sent those same prompts to someone on fiverr, they would be the one making the music not me, so how is it different here with AI?

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Because I am in control of it. :D

[–]redkaptain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just because you have some element of control that doesn't make you the one making it. Again, what's the difference between someone on fiverr making art based of those prompts and the ai generated something based of them prompts?

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oops wrong prompt, GPT-4 wrote me it as this actually:

Infuse deep, resonating beats mimicking the massive, shape-shifting creature's movements. Intertwine low-pitched, spiraling techno rhythms. Layer intense, epic orchestral strings for battle atmosphere. Embed haunting, ethereal synth tones representing the mystic marble. Add powerful, sub-bass booms for extra intensity. Retain a dark, formidable ambience throughout.

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And my prompt i gave gpt4 is now added to the reddit post above. They are on soundcloud though.

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Added some more in opening post guys!

Also 2 new playlists to compare MusicLM against MusicGen the new music AI we can try. In these you will also see HARDer prompts if I hadn't already I guess which I regret not doing day1:

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MusicGen tests:

https://soundcloud.com/immortal-discoveries/sets/musicgen-ai-tests-now-seems-worse-than-musiclm

MusicLM tests:

https://soundcloud.com/immortal-discoveries/sets/adding-to-musiclm-playlist-the-one-with-200-if-no-prompt-go-to-link

[–]Gloomy_Narwhal_719 0 points1 point  (2 children)

WOW that's amazing. Forgive my ignorance - you fed that prompt into .. something? To get what you got? Sounds so cool! I'd play that game. :)

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BTW I had the prompt wrong a bit for #3 (the cool game idea that mentions a purple laser), see the post now, I fed my (*this one* isn't an existing game BTW) game description to GPT-4 and it made that prompt to make it. Might actually be the most incredible one I made actually, listen to it also on a HD speaker system with boom box of course.

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For a small handful of the 200, yes GPT-4 was the middleman, I detail in the comment section on SoundCloud my GPT-4 conversation, you can see the prompt is a few paragraphs long because GPT-4 wrote with ease. I explained to GPT-4 to craft my request nicely (this part is not posted but it's intuitive how to do it: I told it some humans can't do it so well and it knows how to do it better than me to say the musical words to describe music.)

[–]KorewaRise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh man those mixes are truly something else. it sounds like im listening to it on my phone through my headphones.

shit like synthv is where music ai is going hog wild, this is interesting but so bad lmfao.

[–]UltraHawk_DnB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Xd

[–]Lyfe610 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🚮

[–]lennarn 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I think the results are amazing! How did you set it up to use it?

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I used it on web, so, laptop or tower PC then for me. I signed up on the waitlist for MusicLM.

[–]lennarn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess my question then is, where can you use it on the web?

[–]DEATH_STAR_EXTRACTOR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google's AI Test Kitchen has it right now.

[–]Cold-Ad2729 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m still on the waitlist. I don’t have high hopes but it is very interesting to see this kind of generative music tech in its infancy. All the generative music sites stuff sounds pretty grim so far. I’m assuming the majority are just AI generating Midi and then triggering soft synths. This seems to be generating raw audio which is interesting but has loads of horrible artefacts. Disco Diffusion does that too. There are some very interesting live streams of Disco Diffusion auto generated stuff I found in the Harmon.ai Discord that was very interesting. Nightmarish but really interesting. I wonder how advanced it can get. To me it seems like perhaps the method of training the diffusion models with spectrograms of music just doesn’t have enough fidelity yet but I’ve no idea how that could be improved.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could use some mastering. But interesting, I'm just starting to use it too.

[–]Akimbo333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool very interesting!