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[–]blebled47_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I still have my “nightlife of Amsterdam” you shipped 40g in 10 years ago

[–]vadeja 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Helping feds to build a case vs Ross. thats a no for me

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Actually had zero information on Ross ulbricht, since I only knew him as DPR and all my business was done through SR. If I had actually helped against him, I definitely wouldn't have gotten 10 years.

https://freeross.org/

https://www.change.org/p/clemency-for-ross-ulbricht-condemned-to-die-in-prison-for-a-website

[–]vadeja 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I just read one of the links.It just said you didn't get 40 years as the max, but just 10 because of helping build the case vs him.

Don't know anything certain myself

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Exactly, so you're talking very fast.

https://gwern.net/doc/silk-road/sr1-supertrips-pleaagreement.pdf

This is the actual plea agreement. Try to find any reference at all, to what you just said. There's no such thing as even getting a new 'max'.

On top of that, good luck in federal prison after you turned CI, are testifying or cooperated against people. I was not even allowed to serve my sentence in my home country. I took a plane to the US, did 7,5 years, and flew back again this year.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Found this in my sentencing transcripts: https://imgur.com/G1ccApK

This is regarding one of the people that actually cooperated against Ross Ulbricht, because he was one of the few that knew his identity.

Peter Nash, aka Same Same But Different: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/silk-road-moderator-samesamebutdifferent-pleads-guilty-faces-life-in-prison/

Faced life in prison for administrating Silk Road and: According to court documents, authorities found Nash by acquiring the August 2, 2013 "Weekly Report" he compiled for DPR about site activity. Related to his charges of narcotics trafficking, the indictment lists "mixtures and substances containing a detectable amount" of various drugs—1kg of heroin, 5kg or cocaine, 10g of LSD, and 500g of meth.

Instead he got "Time Served" after having done 18 months in pre-arrest. He never saw actual prison.

[–]Rerock1986 0 points1 point  (1 child)

From the link “11. Defendant agrees he will fully and truthfully cooperate in any matter in which he is called upon to cooperate by a representative of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Illinois. This cooperation shall include providing complete and truthful information in any investigation and pre-trial preparation and complete and truthful testimony in any criminal, civil, or administrative proceeding in any district in the United States, including any proceedings in the Northern District of Illinois or in any foreign proceeding if requested to do so by a representative of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Illinois. Defendant agrees to the postponement of his sentencing until after the conclusion of his cooperation.”

No shade, and I’m not saying you cooperated against Ross specifically. Def gonna read the book :)

[–]smurfnuker 3 points4 points  (2 children)

im just glad to be in a thread with one of the early ones. hope you stashed some btc somewhere in the world. convert it to xmr and get on with it lol. no one knows what happens to a man who honestly wasnt harming anyone and then is faced with the rest of his life rotting away.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yes I hope Ross gets out one day, nobody deserves life in prison for a non violent offense, but that's just a euro-liberal POV. I've met several people where they've thrown away the key for a fraud offense.

Ironically, my charge was 'Importing a controlled substance into the US" with only a handful of pills and grams of MDMA that they'd intercepted, or caught during arrests. I was facing a minimum of 0 to a maximum of 5 years in prison until October 2013.

Then they caught Ross red handed, logged in. Apparently, he had kept the entire Silk Road database from day one. Every last record of sale, vendor, buyer, BTC addresses, listing names, etc etc.

That was my entire 'discovery' (evidence). They handed me a stack of paper printed from Excel with my username and every listing ever sold on Silk Road. That was the part I just couldn't understand at the time, how could I be charged for drugs sold from my country, to my country, or anywhere in europe for that matter? But US 'drug conspiracy' law is all encompassing.

[–]smurfnuker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've always been under the rule that if you don't catch me doing it you shouldn't be able to throw me in jail for it. Ross was just a noob. like all of us around the turn of the decade. Stay safe. Stay free. Stay lifted brother . what we didnt know then we sure do now

[–]chainer3000 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Cool read OP

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks :)

[–]jawnzer 1 point2 points  (6 children)

What happened with your Bitcoins?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Forfeited, everything. I had multiple wallets in different locations, but federal agencies have teams of people that are very, very good at finding money. They even found a trace of bitcoin that were supposedly 'washed' before (where you pay a percentage and they get broken up and rerouted), then traced it to a numbered bank account in Switzerland. Also found the Mauritius bank account that was put in the name of a Hong Kong registered company.

[–]smurfnuker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my god did we need XMR then. lol.

[–]RCs_good_Drugs_bad 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Did this pre-date XMR?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes XMR was introduced in 2014, Silk Road went down end of 2013.

[–]TrendingPineapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They, uh, were seized and auctioned off by the FBI. All of them. Every last Bitcoin. No secret brainwallet up there. Nope. None at all.

[–]Xerxero 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Glad you survived it.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you

[–]deptofspace 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Glad you’re out man. Absolute legend.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]Rest_Smooth 1 point2 points  (16 children)

If i may ask, how much total USD did you make while you operated in those 18 months?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 1 point2 points  (15 children)

A good week was about 50k USD in straight drug sales, I didn't keep logs out of fear it would some day be found. I started making more money off of BTC increases in 2013, which is why I planned to stop in the summer.

[–]smurfnuker 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Sucks when you think youre doing your part and someone else keeps logs of all your shit. I started hacking at 9 years old... and even before the fbi went internet crazy you learned that logs and ip addresses and saving screenshots of hacks is a bad idea. BIG OOF! let alone documenting every crime you commit plus everyone elses.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

And you better believe Secret Service, FBI, HSI, etc. got everyone of Silk Road's logs through Ross Ulbricht's computer. Every log with every BTC transaction to every other BTC address, every last listing is on the record and they have it all in spreadsheets.

Whoever used to use SR regularly, knows you couldn't go back more than two weeks, and Ross Ulbricht always swore he never kept any logs. During the couple times that it was DDOS'd or taken down, all previous transactions were gone when it went back online. Whoever did not use PGP to send their address, or encrypt whatever they were sending.. Which were most people in my experience.

[–]smurfnuker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

it sounds about as dumb as writing down all your transactions you do while selling drugs in the street. Wtf do you need a record for? after the transit window that info is useless. I just think he wanted his life to be a book that was documented in detail and someone like that has no business in trying to be anonymous.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I truly couldn't believe it when they dropped the entire database with my username in front of me. Even private or 'custom' listings that were made for individual buyers, were all logged.

[–]Rest_Smooth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Damn that’s crazy, well I’m glad you are out now and got a reasonable sentence, unlike the US justice systems harsh ass sentences

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still got sentenced in the US, but I was lucky with a lenient judge in Chicago.

Here is some transcripts of sentencing. BOUTROS is the prosecutor. Regarding drug amounts: https://imgur.com/hZZ35iY

QUINONES is "UndergroundSyndicate" who had previously gotten 70 months, while getting caught with drugs, money and guns.

The guidelines were 480 months (40 years), based on drug amounts, and "Enhancements" (Mass Marketing, etc.) The prosecution asked for 15 years. Mainly for "deterrence". My attorney asked for 70 months, same as Quinones.

Here's the judge on deterrence: https://imgur.com/KsCpvz6 and determining the sentence (10 years): https://imgur.com/u8B5RcO https://imgur.com/D44KGdf

[–]Rest_Smooth 0 points1 point  (7 children)

And how were u cashing out such large amounts consistently like that back then?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I wasn't, I usually could only cash out enough to fund the supplies needed and pay the bills. They were private buyers mainly, I paid anywhere between 10-15% to get big amounts of cash quickly. It was a different time for sure. The whole cashing out, laundering, etc. was a part time job, while SR itself was full time.

[–]Rest_Smooth 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Damn yeah sounds like a lot of work for the whole process. Did you have a team helping you or was it one man job?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I had more people working with me, but I was the only one who did time or even got arrested.

In the plea agreement: https://gwern.net/doc/silk-road/sr1-supertrips-pleaagreement.pdf on page 4, 5 are different Individuals mentioned by letters A through I.

[–]Smokin-Etizolam 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Where was your mdma from? I had your green question marks.

They were just dosed at 110mg mdma I believe....dude those fucking smacked.

Do u know if your mdma was made from saferole instead of PMK oil?

Also I remember that you had Xanax powder and lots of reviews for ur heroin said it was heroin n lactose

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The MDMA was made by a chemist, he made it from PMK because end product will be at a higher purity and from user experiences, it was preferred over safrole. The green ?'s were the lowest dosage, the whites the strongest and the reds were in the middle.

[–]Elgifinelgi88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I feel fortunate to have sampled the green ?’s in the summer of ‘13! They were special.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I've never understood why US Law considers MDMA 2.5x worse than cocaine according to the drug equivalency chart.

Schedule I

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

Individuals abusing MDMA, weed, peyote and LSD are far and few in between I'd say. Meanwhile Xanax is schedule 4, meaning it has a low risk of abuse and dependence.

[–]Local-Drive2719 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your contributions to humanity.

[–]adam2222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you gonna have a kindle version? Only shows hard and soft cover on Amazon

[–]s4swordfish 0 points1 point  (5 children)

why didn’t your lawyers argue section 230 like FB? or fid they?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Facebook didn't get a federal indictment. It would be interesting to see what Zuckerberg's lawyers would argue if he would spend a few months in a jumpsuit in a high rise building. Once federal prosecutors put together a plausible enough indictment, you are likely over 99% guilty. Why?

Data published by the Pew Research Center in 2019 highlighted how federal prosecutors have a 99.6% conviction rate. To put those numbers in perspective, U.S. Attorneys filed 79,704 cases in 2018. Of those, only 320 resulted in acquittals.19 apr. 2021

[–]s4swordfish 0 points1 point  (2 children)

soo… that data is accurate but slanted.most people don’t have the resources (read: money) to fight a federal indictment in court.

Not to mention that the judge and jury is already leaning towards guilty verdict bc a plethora of reasons. I would imagine that number is lower for white collar crimes

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Federal prosecution of white collar crimes has declined by more than 50% last year: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/federal-white-collar-crime-prosecutions-continue-a-long-term-decline Here's your chance white collar criminals.

Whichever Federal agency may be investigating (ATF, FBI, SS, HSI, DEA), they are diligent, and if they decide to press charges, chances are pretty good (99%+ lol) that they've got you.

[–]s4swordfish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so what i’m saying is being over 99% guilty is a weird thing to say. the criminal justice system is a massive ugly beast. primarily bc no one cares about the fate of those caught within it

[–]Professional_Ad_9688 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey Buddy. I’m happy you’re free. I can’t wait to read it.

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If this is who I think it is, just email me and I will send you the ebook as an attachment of course. Merry christmas.

[–]murda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did they catch you?

[–]TheFinestExperience 0 points1 point  (10 children)

In your past as a vendor what’s the most amount of drugs you’ve seen on a table in your past

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Several dozen kilos of cocaine and some large bags of MDMA 5kg each vacuum sealed.

[–]TheFinestExperience 0 points1 point  (8 children)

What but it says u were caught with 104 kilos? I’m saying what’s the most you’ve had in your possession as a dealer.. if you can say I know a lot of people don’t like to tell people everything which is totally fine

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Ah okay, the most at one time was a few kilos of coke, 5-10kg mdma and 50k± pills.

[–]TheFinestExperience 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh ok how fast would u move that (sorry just saw it said in your whole operation)

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably like two weeks. There are much more details in the book as well ;D

[–]TheFinestExperience 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Did u ever produce 100% cocaine or 100% mdma out of your labs

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nope I bought the coke and the highest purity of mdma hcl is technically 84%. Due to its hcl bond. 16% is salt, and 84% mdma molecule. But if you mean if that specific mdma hcl was pure, then yes, all of the mdma was raw crystals and uncut what I sold, or processed further into pills.

[–]TheFinestExperience 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What was the purity on your coke

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

around 85-88%

[–]vulturesteez 0 points1 point  (1 child)

nice! i just purchased a copy! good to see you providing detailed responses in the comments also. have you thought about doing an ama?

[–]DaLyon92x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it's in the works, but it's also what usually happens if I'm streaming on twitch. Thanks for the support

[–]grayzee60 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool story, what are you doing now? Also was it just you shipping everything? I find this era of the dark web interesting since the idea of getting a drug in the mail kinda cool tbh like some sort of thrill from the mystery u know. Also s/o the Netherlands not cuz of drugs but because u guys have a lot of musical talent lol

[–]grayzee60 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many pages is the book

[–]ahhhspring -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Did you see the movie?