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[–]mianbai 11 points12 points  (1 child)

If you are interested in Lee Kuan Yew, I highly recommend also checking out "Lee Kuan Yew: The Man and His Ideas".
I picked it up at the super nice Singaporean airport and devoured it on my flight back home. It adds a lot of color into how Lee ended up abandoning a socialist vision of "all people are born equal" and ended up more strongly believing in the idea of "people are unequal in their abilities". It also explored how given this unequal fact, what was the most efficient and fair way to structure society.

Specifically some of his social spending policies were really intriguing to me. In particular how he managed to convince the ethnic Malays in Singapore that's its ok for them to have differential outcomes. Those who chose a more traditional culture/ pace of life would still be taken care of by the government, while those who adopted modernity and tested well could end up running the government. This is in stark contrast to Bumiputera policies in Malaysia/Indonesia and I think part of the reason for Singapore's exceptionalism. The chapter where Lee compares his own views with those of Marathir were in particular enlightening.

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It adds a lot of color into how Lee ended up abandoning a socialist vision of "all people are born equal" and ended up more strongly believing in the idea of "people are unequal in their abilities".

"All people are born equal" is not a "socialist" vision; it's a key sentiment of the Enlightenment, a sentiment found in the second sentence of the US Declaration of Independence.

The idea that "people are unequal in their abilities" is quite comfortably socialist, as in the popular socialist phrase "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

[–]knownastron 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I read the first half or so of this book.

Did OP get the same impression that one of the reoccurring themes of the book was “we had a problem, so we created a committee to fix that problem.”

This sounds like an awful idea in America. What did you (others as well) think allowed Singapore to implement this model successfully over and over?

[–]TracingWoodgrainsFirst, do no harm[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My take: It works because of a focus on talent, basically. A core group of pragmatists rising together through rigorous selection, higher pay for politicians and a meritocratic selection process, and a willingness to take experts seriously and adjust course regularly. I find the story of his selection of a chief justice illustrative: LKY hand-picked a candidate who was working as a banker and convinced him to take a $1.7 million pay cut to take the position out of a sense of duty to the country.

Another illustrative moment was when he talked about his process with ministers, where he would assign the most talented individual to the most important position, then give them a goal and let them figure out a course towards it on their own. I get the sense that this sort of thing works if and only if you can assemble the right people, and part of LKY's genius was his effectiveness in looking for talent and putting it to good use.

[–]TheAncientGeekBroken Spirited Serf 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Having made the claim that Singapore really isn't reactionary,

It might be helpful to say something about the accusation that it is a one party state.

[–]TracingWoodgrainsFirst, do no harm[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's coming, but not until part 4. Lots of material to get through yet.

[–]Greenei 5 points6 points  (1 child)

He sounds like a nerdy, rationalist, technocratic dictator. Disregarding society's irrational feelings, speaking the truth plainly, and changing your views with new evidence.

[–]Latias876 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't tell whether you mean this in a good bad way.

[–]sargon66 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Imagine that we get to clone one person, alive or dead, bring this person to perfect health and then make this person the dictator of all humanity. Who should we pick? LKY would seem a good candidate.

[–]warsie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He sidelined the other people running the country in the 1970s, and Singapore really only is as successful as it is because of its strategic location near the Malacca straits - its why Britain made it a colony in the first place...

[–]ReaperReader 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Thanks for this enjoyable review. One thing I got from reading the book myself is that Lee Kuan Yew must have been very good at picking top quality people (Singapore famously pays its top civil servants well, but he'd still have to identify them) to implement his ideas.

[–]sargon66 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I wonder if he did more than just use IQ tests and academic achievement.

[–]Troof_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He mentioned in the book that he was able to steal some top managers from private compagnies into the governement thanks to the high private-sector-aligned salaries. I guess performance as an employee as a private company manager is more easily quantified than a civil servant performance (because you can compare one performance to the competition).

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    [–]This_view_of_math 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    TIL that Sweden produces oil... Among the nordic countries, only Norway has significant oil ressources.

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      [–]lunaranusphysiognomist of the mind 17 points18 points  (1 child)

      I posted a few comments on the book when I read it last year. For me the most interesting aspect is this pragmatism, how it's achieved, the institutional context necessary to make it happen and potential future weaknesses, etc.

      [–]TracingWoodgrainsFirst, do no harm[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Oh, right, you did write that! I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure your comments on the book were what made me go out and read it. I remember being intrigued by your description at the time and wanting to investigate it for myself. Thanks for linking!

      [–]daermonnwould have n+1 beers with you 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      This is a fantastic summary, thanks. I'll have to pick this up and read it, sounds great

      [–]maximumjackrussell 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      Thanks for this great summary/review. I've had this book sitting on my Amazon wishlist for some time now. I really should order it.

      Seeing LKY interviewed is quite something, especially as a Brit. He speaks with such confidence and authority; it's quite unlike any modern British politician. It's also interesting to see him talk about the UK in the 21st century. One senses a combination of disappointment and satisfaction regarding what happened in the UK since they left Singapore and generally declined in terms of global importance.

      [–]RetardedRonIQ: 100 (When normed to people as smart as me) 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      I would be quite happy for the UK to decline in global importance if life could have gotten better on a variety of per capita metrics, unfortunately we seem to have fallen behind on that front too.

      [–]maximumjackrussell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That's the unfortunate reality.

      [–]AroillaBuran 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Nice overview! This book should be more known - I'm glad you're stretching this out :)