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[–]Ma02rc 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Wait, you can snort caffeine powder? Never really thought of doing that lol.

I guess my question is, how powerful is the effect? Do you get any of the usual energy you get from normally ingesting coffee or nah?

[–]throwawaybigdong69[S] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Yes, you can definitely snort it. Only problem with that is that the solubility of anhydrous freebase caffeine isn't that high so in the nose it can get kinda chunky. Not too much but let's say I rail 100mg, there are at least 10-20mg that won't be absorbed and will instead chunk and you end up blowing them out of your nose. I tried once making caffeine citrate to greatly increase water solubility but it hurts bad. Like really bad. Freebase caffeine doesn't hurt at all. You barely feel it when you snort.

Either way, the effects are really powerful. When I first tried railing caffeine I had a pretty high tolerance but 100mg insufflated quite literally kept me up a whole night. If you are tired you pretty much immediately feel more energic. It kinda hits you like a truck. Of course you aren't "high" like you would be from amphetamines but nonetheless you can definitely feel the stimulation.

I think part of the reason is that with insufflation you bypass first pass metabolism so your caffeine isn't immediately broken down by the liver.

The effects last way less than with oral consumption tho. Depending on how well rested, fed and hydrated you are the effects can last as little as a couple hours. Again depending on those circumstances the crash will be more or less strong. And when it's strong...well your brain wants to take more caffeine. It can lead fairly quickly to fiendishness and addiction

[–]Ma02rc 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ah cool, I see. I always found snorting stuff to be a weird concept so I probably won't try it. It's interesting though how it has such a powerful effect. When did you discover / get into insufflating caffeine?

[–]throwawaybigdong69[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha well this is a funny story. One night I was bored and I took a bunch of benzos. After an hour or so I felt like I was about to fall asleep so I took a caffeine pill to see if it would keep me awake (I've never been that much into benzos so I had never done that experiment in my life). And it did. Now you see when I'm on the benzos I need to do stuff. Counter intuitive I know but benzos make me want to do stuff. Especially, I later found, when mixed with caffeine. Either way I was thinking it was cool how a caffeine pills changed the whole experience and I decided it would be fun to separate it out of pills and snort it. And that's what I did. I think I got 300mg or so out of 5 pills (which were supposed to be 250mg each) because I greatly overestimated caffeine's water solubility but those 300mg (which I didn't even use all of them) were enough to keep me up all night despite the benzos in my system. I didn't even feel tired like I normally do on benzos. I ended up crashing at 10AM or so for the rest of the day.

So the next day I was like "wtf that actually worked" and that's how it basically started

[–]StickInMyCraw 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So are you saying if you took 100mg orally that the amount that would actually make it through metabolizing is < 100? Is there anything unsafe about snorting it and bypassing the liver?

[–]throwawaybigdong69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No what I mean is that when orally assumed caffeine is pretty much immediately broken down in 3 different molecules, the major metabolite (which makes up 90% or so of the total metabolites) has the same effect as caffeine but the other 10% doesn't. Snorting you bypass the first pass metabolism so this process is slowed down

I honestly don't know if it's unsafe when snorted, besides the obvious like nose damage