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Discussion =3D> Silk Road discussion =3D> Topic= started by: mollyexpress on April 16, 2013, 06:06 am

Title: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: mollyexpress on April 16, 2013, 06:06= am
Well, the title says it all. I've done some searching through the forum= s and couldn't find too much information about any vendors who've been bust= ed vending on the road.

I'm eager to learn about those who've been= busted. Where did they go wrong. How were they busted. What lessons have= we learned as a result.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: MrAnonymous on April 16, 2013, 06:11= am
Shad1 is the only vendor bust I've heard of.

Wasn't actually ca= ught on SR.. He was importing drugs in the mail and they caught him, then= watched his mail and found a large amount of drugs so raided his house -= found more drugs. Then he must have just admitted to being part of SR.
=

The idiot had his number plate on his car as his vendor username=C2= =A0 :o
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: psychedelicmind on April 16, 2013, 07= :41 am
There was a DMT vendor from Canada that got busted last Summer as well.= He wasn't busted as a result of his SR operation. However, when mainstream= news of this huge bust for DMT came out, it appeared the man in question= had the same stuff written on his facebook profile as he had on his SR pro= file, so we were left with the conclusion that it had to be him.

If= I remember correctly, he had a DMT extraction setup in the basement of his= rented house. Anyway, his neighbours expressed concern about all the peopl= e that were calling to the house for very brief periods of time, even durin= g the middle of the night. Basically, it was obvious to his neighbours that= he was dealing in some capacity. So, next thing you know, he was busted an= d at the same time, his listings on SR went down.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 16, 2013, 07:55= am
MoveitNice was also busted due to coke sales that were off SR.=20
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 16, 2013,= 09:11 am
= Quote from: psychedelicmind on April 16, 2013, 07:41 am
There was a DMT vendor from Canada tha= t got busted last Summer as well. He wasn't busted as a result of his SR op= eration. However, when mainstream news of this huge bust for DMT came out,= it appeared the man in question had the same stuff written on his facebook= profile as he had on his SR profile, so we were left with the conclusion= that it had to be him.

If I remember correctly, he had a DMT extrac= tion setup in the basement of his rented house. Anyway, his neighbours expr= essed concern about all the people that were calling to the house for very= brief periods of time, even during the middle of the night. Basically, it= was obvious to his neighbours that he was dealing in some capacity. So, ne= xt thing you know, he was busted and at the same time, his listings on SR= went down.

Would that be Trojan of which you speak?

L= et's not forget the all star douche of all time, Shadh1!
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: psychedelicmind on April 16, 2013, 09= :21 am
= Quote from: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 16, 2013, 09:11 am
Th= ere was a DMT vendor from Canada that got busted last Summer as well. He wa= sn't busted as a result of his SR operation. However, when mainstream news= of this huge bust for DMT came out, it appeared the man in question had th= e same stuff written on his facebook profile as he had on his SR profile,= so we were left with the conclusion that it had to be him.

If I rem= ember correctly, he had a DMT extraction setup in the basement of his rente= d house. Anyway, his neighbours expressed concern about all the people that= were calling to the house for very brief periods of time, even during the= middle of the night. Basically, it was obvious to his neighbours that he= was dealing in some capacity. So, next thing you know, he was busted and= at the same time, his listings on SR went down.

Would that= be Trojan of which you speak?

Let's not forget the all star douche= of all time, Shadh1!

I was speaking about Trojan yeah :) My= first experience with DMT was with his product. He was a cool vendor, so= I was sad to see him go down.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: mollyexpress on April 16, 2013, 01:35= pm
So it kind of sounds like a lot of the busts that have happened were mo= st likely incurred due to a lack of practicing good operational security,= being a little lazy, and maybe a bit too much co-mingling of activities be= tween SR and real life.

I can't believe someone would use their SR= username as their license plate.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: jacklinks on April 16, 2013, 03:59 pm=
SourDieselMan and HashBean are two well known vendors who got into lega= l trouble. Both were a result of local operations and not SR though to the= best of my knowledge.

Seems like that is the case just about every= time
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: BenJesuit on April 16, 2013, 05:17 pm=
= Quote from: jacklinks on April 16, 2013, 03:59 pm
SourDieselMan and HashBean are two well know= n vendors who got into legal trouble. Both were a result of local operation= s and not SR though to the best of my knowledge.

Seems like that is= the case just about every time
=

Always the case. Dealing IRL= removes plausible deniability and anonymity. There is zero degrees of sepa= ration between you, your clients and your product. And too many loose ends.= =20
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: GOTMILKTEAM on April 16, 2013, 08:07= pm
this is why silk road is a brilliant invention, vendors risks are low= and so are buyers. You both know what you expect no stings or setups.
<= br>very happy to be a SR vendor, but would advise other vendors to stay ano= nymous once you are off tor and bitcoins and on street taking cash or WU/MG= paypal thats risky.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: Diamond on April 16, 2013, 08:43 pm
Yeah, it doesn't seem like SR has ever been compromised itself, just ou= tside of SR and people blabbing like idiots.

Best part of the SR is= that no one involved could compromise it and sell everyone out, as far as= I know, in order to save their own asses if they got busted. Doubtless LEO= already has accounts and knows how to sign onto the site, and that's clear= ly not enough to bust them because they would have done so by now.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: mollyexpress on April 16, 2013, 09:46= pm
Surely LEO has set up buyer accounts... I wonder if they have some sort= of database they are compiling on different vendors to gather intel...
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: northstars on April 16, 2013, 10:10= pm
Interesting stuff. Never heard about the Canadian guy.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: Arakniid on April 17, 2013, 12:53 am<= /strong>
This guy got busted (Clear net) http://weirderweb.com/2013/02/26/florid= a-man-busted-silk-road-promptly-deletes-all-his-posts/
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: laplace on April 17, 2013, 01:07 am
= Quote from: mollyexpress on April 16, 2013, 09:46 pm
Surely LEO has set up buyer accounts...= I wonder if they have some sort of database they are compiling on differen= t vendors to gather intel...
It's probably safe to assume they ar= e collecting info on a daily basis. And yes they probably have a dB of some= sort. They will gather small bits and pieces until they can assemble a way= to take the whole thing out. Some of those bits will come from the forums,= some from SR and some from ?. We need to very careful what we say.
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: cantharidin on April 17, 2013, 01:38= am
So the bottom line is that we still have heard of no case where anyone,= vendor or customer has been busted as a result of LE tracking them down vi= a SR (is this statement correct? I have sort of looked and haven't seen any= references otherwise).=C2=A0 All the busts involving SR I've heard about= have been tracked back into SR AFTER the person has been burned already.= =C2=A0 This seems like good news to me.=C2=A0 We are really lucky to have= SR, IMO.

Weeeeehaaaaaaaaaa! I just went to look for the stupid capt= cha and realize that it's gone - I hit 100. Now if I just had been smart en= ough to realize sometime before my 98th post that the captcha's aren't case= sensitive...

Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: surmer on April 17, 2013, 01:44 am
= Quote from: BenJesuit on April 16, 2013, 05:17 pm
Quote from: jacklinks on April 16, 2013, 03:59= pm
SourDieselMan= and HashBean are two well known vendors who got into legal trouble. Both= were a result of local operations and not SR though to the best of my know= ledge.

Seems like that is the case just about every time
<= br>Always the case. Dealing IRL removes plausible deniability and anonymity= . There is zero degrees of separation between you, your clients and your pr= oduct. And too many loose ends.
=

This is real life. Did you me= an AFK?
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: Cimicon-Rep on April 17, 2013, 02:59= am
I'm sure he means that SR is virtual as opposed to face to face dealing= . No anonymity face to face except maybe using an alias. But for most vendo= rs here, if we sold to a cop, all the cop gets is drugs and maybe a general= geographic location of where they came from and maybe our shipping method= at the time. But that's it. All the other information gleaned is useless= to law enforcement.=20
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: curtnz on April 17, 2013, 04:04 am
is it true there were some CDs a few weeks back? id like to know which= vendors faced those problems
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: Aussie bob on April 17, 2013, 12:26= pm
= Quote from: SpaceWrangler on April 17, 2013, 07:07 am
Quote from: MrAnonymous on April 16, 2013,= 06:11 am
Shad1 is= the only vendor bust I've heard of.

Wasn't actually caught on SR..= He was importing drugs in the mail and they caught him, then watched his= mail and found a large amount of drugs so raided his house - found more dr= ugs. Then he must have just admitted to being part of SR.


The id= iot had his number plate on his car as his vendor username=C2=A0 :o

What sort of drugs was he importing? Sent to a real physical address= , or PO Box?

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/trafficker-jai= led-over-online-drug-supermarket-bust-20130206-2dxgu.html

Scary funny
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: Technician on April 17, 2013, 12:27= pm
That's what I love about SR, my father wouldn't buy drugs from anyone= in town because he is a professional. SR is so safe and discreet that he's= asked me order him a few things that I would have never even imagined him= trying! Lmfao

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: cyanspore on April 17, 2013, 01:21 pm=
This is correct about dealing IRL. I am thinking about making a whole= new thread about how Silk Road almost literally saved my life. I've been= a shroom hunter for many years and because I don't go and hustle it, I was= forced to rely on middle men to stay safe and anonymous. Of course, the pr= ice I got was so low that it kept me in near indentured servitude and slave= ry for years and there was nothing I could do while they charged the highes= t prices. The markup was over 500% from me the hunter to the consumer
Silk Road changed all that. Now i do it myself and am able to charge chea= per and more reasonable price and still make 3 times what I made before IRL= and now for the first time I can make enough to actually support my huntin= g without fucking starving

I have no idea if cutting out middle men= is possible with the bigger manufactured chemicals, but for a small time= pro hunter of mushrooms like myself, Silk Road and DPR saved my life
and I think that's what Silk Road is all about, helping to cut out the mi= ddle men and other problems associated with selling IRL. It was never possi= ble for me to do this IRL without middle men before Silk Road came along...= .too risky

it was starvation wages before-not even minimum wage. Now= I can at least make a modest living. Thank you DPR and Silk Road!

<= br>
Quote from: BenJesuit on April 16, 2013, 05:17 pm
Quote from: jacklinks on April 16, 2013, 03:5= 9 pm
SourDieselMan= and HashBean are two well known vendors who got into legal trouble. Both= were a result of local operations and not SR though to the best of my know= ledge.

Seems like that is the case just about every time
<= br>Always the case. Dealing IRL removes plausible deniability and anonymity= . There is zero degrees of separation between you, your clients and your pr= oduct. And too many loose ends.
=
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: Diamond on April 19, 2013, 04:57 pm
= Quote from: cyanspore on April 17, 2013, 01:21 pm

and I think that's what Silk Road is all= about, helping to cut out the middle men and other problems associated wit= h selling IRL. It was never possible for me to do this IRL without middle= men before Silk Road came along....too risky

ABSOLUTELY!
=
Same for me as a buyer. I never used anything as a teenager, that time= when people find trusted connects for shit. So when I wanted to try anythi= ng, I really had no way, I would have been the not-streetwise asshole tryin= g to find a dealer essentially from scratch, no fun.

Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: LesbianRobot on April 19, 2013, 09:29= pm
= Quote from: surmer on April 17, 2013, 01:44 am

This is real life. Did you mean AFK?
<= /blockquote>
=

Haha! Thanks for clearing that up to them. Teh intrawebz iz "IRL"= =C2=A0 8)
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: burgarsenator on April 19, 2013, 10:0= 6 pm
= Quote from: mollyexpress on April 16, 2013, 06:06 am
Well, the title says it all. I've done so= me searching through the forums and couldn't find too much information abou= t any vendors who've been busted vending on the road.

I'm eager to= learn about those who've been busted. Where did they go wrong. How were th= ey busted. What lessons have we learned as a result.

Thanks in advan= ce!

Nice post
Title: Re: Curious about SR Vendor busts
Post by: canuckboy on April 19, 2013, 11:54 pm=
I don't think cops care about this place as much as people think.=C2=A0= =C2=A0It's only when someone snitches or something gets reported.=20
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