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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: The Scientist on January 06, 2013, 07:20 am

Title: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: The Scientist on January 06, 2013, 07:20 am
Anyone agree?
I never would have thought so, but yesterday I took enough LSD to experience ego death, and I never felt more socially confident in my entire life. I could do everything with a lightness that I never experienced before. And I've done MDMA, cocaine, amphetamine, meth, and other confidence-boosting drugs. They were all far, far inferior to the confidence produced that LSD gave me.

Will LSD always have this effect if I take enough of it?
Or will I have to rely on other drugs?
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: tdk on January 06, 2013, 08:35 am
how much did you take in?
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: PintoX on January 06, 2013, 08:55 am
Thats what good with LSD,

Experience can be so different each time,

when i used to do LSD regulary about 15-17 years ago it used to make me more "close" and less socially confident,
recently i have taken some acid again and had pretty similar effect to what you are describing here, and normally im far from being a social person.

it depends alot of the setting, your mental state, maturity etc... i think its impossible to predict how your next experiences are going to be.
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: The Scientist on January 06, 2013, 09:00 am
Quote
how much did you take in?
250-300ug.

Thats what good with LSD,

Experience can be so different each time,

when i used to do LSD regulary about 15-17 years ago it used to make me more "close" and less socially confident,
recently i have taken some acid again and had pretty similar effect to what you are describing here, and normally im far from being a social person.

it depends alot of the setting, your mental state, maturity etc... i think its impossible to predict how your next experiences are going to be.
maybe you weren't taking enuogh of it, because that's what LSD was like for me - it increased my social anxiety - but I only took smaller amounts of it. But yesterday, with the higher dosage, there wasn't any 'me' to feel social anxiety.
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: PintoX on January 06, 2013, 09:09 am
Thats what im tellig you, its not a matter of amount (you can be sure i have taken way more that you are able to imagine :)

But thats how  LSD is,  different people, setting, mental state, time, quality of LSD, giving different experience - as mentioned - its impossible to predict how your next experiences are going to be.

the experience one is having is not the same as other will have and usually will not be same as following experiences of same person (assuming he has many experiences at different times, settings and mental states)

i guess the best way to know is to try?
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: MoleculeOfPerfection on January 09, 2013, 09:50 pm
Anyone agree?
I never would have thought so, but yesterday I took enough LSD to experience ego death, and I never felt more socially confident in my entire life. I could do everything with a lightness that I never experienced before. And I've done MDMA, cocaine, amphetamine, meth, and other confidence-boosting drugs. They were all far, far inferior to the confidence produced that LSD gave me.

Will LSD always have this effect if I take enough of it?
Or will I have to rely on other drugs?

Could not agree more with this.

I had 1/2 a tab yesterday - probably around 100-120mg and a day of wanting to walk, sit in the sunshine, enjoy the surroundings of areas that I see everyday and unfortunately take for granted.  Couldn't have felt more confident or happy to be around people and enjoying my family time or at the shops surrounded by lots of people (after about 5+ hours that was).  My pupils were hugely dilated from the 2 hour to 5 hour mark which always has me a little worried, sunglasses help here.

I don't think it matters how much you have, as long as it's clean and good quality, confidence and feeling great should not be a problem.

LSD is my favourite molecule, amazing confidence without the ego that seems to drive this world day in day out.
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: bynter on January 09, 2013, 11:08 pm
I just think that the effects would be too inconsistent.
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: snark on January 10, 2013, 01:17 am
I haven't felt particularly confident while on LSD, but I can say that one particular trip completely shattered my self hatred and made me a more confident person overall afterwards, right now we are on the 8th year and still going strong which is pretty fucking incredible.
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: PizzaBrain on January 10, 2013, 03:27 am
Maybe MDAI would be good for you to look into,
but Lyrica made me more confident and social..

4-Methylaminorex has been used by government (prime ministers, presidents etc) to reduce stage fright.
Beta blockers apparantly help with this,

Hydergine is another ergoloid said to be like LSD microdoses, It was discovered by Hoffmann and used daily by him, search for "Hoffman Hydergine LSD microdose" and check out about half the first page
It's a Nootropic that are just like stimulants in a way but -
in order to be classed as a Noot~ it must have no long term negative effects and must improve either Memory(long/short term Storage and/or Recall of memories), Cognition/Focus, and general mental processing and wellbeing.

Of the ~racetams, Oxiracetam has been said by many to have a noticable cognitive enhancing ability and motivation boost.
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: thisworld on January 11, 2013, 12:08 am
pizzabrain: Thanks man! +1  Great info!


Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: Virmo on January 11, 2013, 12:15 am
I don't think social anxiety or anything related still applies in a state of ego death  ;D
Title: Re: LSD = best confidence drug
Post by: Evanescence on January 11, 2013, 12:26 am
Are you guys saying it helps confidence during the trip or also after the trip?  If after for how long?

I've been wanting to experiment but I've got to get off stupid antidepressants first because they disable the effects of psychedelics.