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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: wavelength on January 14, 2013, 02:13 am
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okay guize.
i know this post might rustle some jimmies, and make some uncomfortable, but id like to know how everyone else has been affected by their drug use.
since my amphetamine use i have adopted a few nervous ticks into my behavior.
one of them is gritting my teeth together/flexing my jaw constantly.
any amount of caffeine seems to bring this about, and it really sucks.
i have nightmares about my teeth falling out and its such a shitty feeling in those dreams!
i love my teeth, they are almost perfectly straight and i have a damn good smile.
would suck to fuck that up
the other nervous tick ive taken on is picking at the sides of my fingernails, where the skin pretty much meets the nail.
i like rubbing that part of my finger on other fingers and i like prying up my skin so it creates a feeling like im itching myself when i do it
(i dont understand this shit but i literally get pleasure out of it. can someone explain it)
and not only can someone explain it, but will you guys share any similar things like this?
i cant be the only one left with shit like dat.
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Yeah, sometimes when you binge on any stimulant you will get nervous ticks for an unknown period of time. I used to have knee jerks and shakes and random jerks from abusing methylone and adderall for a long period of time, but they've calmed down now. If you want to settle them down a little bit and don't mind travelling down another drug rabbit-hole so-to-speak, you could get some valium or something. Benzos usually calm down my nervous ticks.
The worst for me was the inability to get any good sleep because of the shakes and the jerking, but I went to the doc and they gave me ropinirole, which is for restless leg syndrome and parkinson's disease. It activates a fuckton of different receptors in the brain, so many so that I don't quite understand it... but it works. I sleep like a baby on it. And I wake up feeling great. It has a pretty low potential for abuse, too, I'd say, since I've taken a bunch of it at once and only experienced negative effects. Pretty sure it's a D1 agonist or something, but it activates the opiod receptors that are responsible for pain relief but not euphoria if I remember correctly...
Anyway, you're not the only one that gets that... just CALM down on the stims, lol. Unless you don't care about the ticks, in which case, have at it. But the more you burn your brain-cells the worse they're gonna get. Once I started to get bad I took a good month or two where I would only do drugs of all sorts sparingly and didn't binge, and after a while I felt a lot better. Your body will repair itself if you give it time to recover.
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Yeah, sometimes when you binge on any stimulant you will get nervous ticks for an unknown period of time. I used to have knee jerks and shakes and random jerks from abusing methylone and adderall for a long period of time, but they've calmed down now. If you want to settle them down a little bit and don't mind travelling down another drug rabbit-hole so-to-speak, you could get some valium or something. Benzos usually calm down my nervous ticks.
The worst for me was the inability to get any good sleep because of the shakes and the jerking, but I went to the doc and they gave me ropinirole, which is for restless leg syndrome and parkinson's disease. It activates a fuckton of different receptors in the brain, so many so that I don't quite understand it... but it works. I sleep like a baby on it. And I wake up feeling great. It has a pretty low potential for abuse, too, I'd say, since I've taken a bunch of it at once and only experienced negative effects. Pretty sure it's a D1 agonist or something, but it activates the opiod receptors that are responsible for pain relief but not euphoria if I remember correctly...
Anyway, you're not the only one that gets that... just CALM down on the stims, lol. Unless you don't care about the ticks, in which case, have at it. But the more you burn your brain-cells the worse they're gonna get. Once I started to get bad I took a good month or two where I would only do drugs of all sorts sparingly and didn't binge, and after a while I felt a lot better. Your body will repair itself if you give it time to recover.
lol well lately my amphet use has slowed down substantially compared to when i was getting the 4-fa sold as "molly" in my area.(i knew, but i still liked it =D, this was before sr)
that was an almost every weekend thing =/
and i mean i still feel as "quick" mentally now as i did before i did drugs, only now i have the benefit of an open mind.
the ability to remove my bias from a situation before i think about it. the ability to remove the ego.
but the ticks, idk. i have a feeling that they mightve had something to do with me losing my job earlier this year.
i was in a job that requires a lot of social interaction and once youve taken psychedelics, the entire world can seem "blind" to what they are doing with their lives in a way. (for me anyway)
naturally some people made me uncomfortable and if it was immediately after a stimulant experience, i was antisocial and nervous.
lol, im on amphetamines now though, which is probably fueling this regurgitation of information right now =3
ive considered benzos but ive heard they are addictive so im not sure i want to get into it.
amphetamines are bad enough, with the urge to redose when your brain has used up its supply of neurochemicals is shitty!
and i know benzos are much much worse, apparently comparable to opiates.
but ropinirole sounds interesting haha, might have to look into it.
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The way I see it, ropinirole ( brand name requip ) has to be great for nervous ticks especially if they're physical ticks since both parkinson's and RLS are completely oriented around physical ticks, y'know? It works for me. And it's great because depending on when you take it it has different effects - if you take it when you normally go to bed, it really helps you sleep but in and of itself it doesn't make you sleepy. ( but i've never found a drug that really made me more tired than I already usually am, even when I've binged on ambien ).
I DEFINITELY understand what you mean when you talk about psychedelics. Sometimes I'll be tripping and nobody will know I'm tripping and I'll listen to people talk and they just sound so fucking fake, but genuinely fake, like they don't know how much they've been conditioned to say the things that they say. I feel bad for them. They think they live their own lives but really they just go through the motions of something designed by the society they choose to believe in.
But enough of my own rambling :p
I've never had a problem with abusing benzos because they really don't have any effects that I would call euphoric or pleasant - at least some don't. Klonopin was sorta nice, but from what I understand ( and I don't really know a lot about benzos so I could be completely wrong ) klonopin is more muscle relaxer than anxiety reliever. Either way, the comedown from benzos is fucking grotesque for me, like being sick as I've ever been in my entire life, puking and wishing I was dead, and I can't do anything to fix it besides try and sleep it off. So I just avoid them.
They are good tools if you're tripping for too long and need to come down to sleep or if you have physical ticks, though, I've found. It's just a matter of not using them for recreation. I find that easy because they're not too recreational for me, but obviously that's not the case for everyone... I'm just a stimulant oriented guy, I like my m1 and my amphetamine, and my psychedelics... the occasional opiate is alright but for the most part I'm not too interested in downers, y'know?
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Try buying some magnesium capsules from a health food store, they should help with your jaw clenching.
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one of them is gritting my teeth together/flexing my jaw constantly.
any amount of caffeine seems to bring this about, and it really sucks.
and not only can someone explain it, but will you guys share any similar things like this?
i cant be the only one left with shit like dat.
When I'm on meth or amph's, I tap out rhythms with my teeth. Usually the upper and lower incisors, or the front top and bottom teeth.
I found that I can curb this habit by keeping my tongue between my teeth. That also helps with the jaw-clenching. Eventually it became second nature, and I don't catch myself doing it nearly as much anymore.
I get dreams of losing my teeth, too. It's always such a traumatic thing in the dream. Like sometimes I'll reach into my mouth, feel something odd and suddenly I pull out four or five of my teeth all at once. *shudder* Hate that.
But surprisingly (to me at least), I haven't had problems with tooth decay during or after my meth adventures. Before I ever touched meth/amphetamines I used to get cavities from drinking sugary sodas and having chronic dry mouth from taking antihistamines (allergies). When I switched to non-sugary drinks and quit the antihistamines, it stopped, even during meth binges. IMO, as long as you're good about carefully brushing, keeping your mouth moist, avoiding sugar, and keeping your upper and lower teeth apart, you'll be fine. Also, tooth decay doesn't happen overnight-- keep an eye on your chompers, and if you start to notice small signs of a problem, like cavities, then change whatever you're doing. :-)
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The "teeth falling out" dream is a common dream for people with anxiety problems. I personally have that dream all the time, and I don't do many stimulants.
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MEMANTINE, man. Can't stress it enough. Take memantine (much better than magnesium) each day in the morning and at night and you'll notice a much smoother amp experience. Also, at night take l-tyrosine and remeron (mirtazepine). You'll wake up a slight bit groggy but once the amp and memantine kick in, you'll be ready to go. Drink lots of water through all of this and eat well. Hopefully you'll notice a difference.
Godspeed ;)