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Title: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: cyberscour on January 11, 2013, 10:14 pm
I took the same exact pill I took the first time, around 20 days ago, and this trip wasn't as fun as the last one. Everything was fine for a while, then I accidentally broke my lamp that I got a few years ago, this stopped the joy and, well, ecstasy. I felt so horrible, my god-like optimism I get on ecstasy turned in to pessimism... Does ecstasy cause bad trips ever?...
Title: Re: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: edar on January 11, 2013, 10:33 pm
not if its  pure mdma
Title: Re: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: PizzaBrain on January 11, 2013, 10:37 pm
maybe your serotonin levels were still a bit depleted.
its well worth getting some l-tryptophan and some B6 to restore, along with magnesium and zinc and plenty of vitC, but the others are more important, esp the first 2.

maybe you broke the lamp just as you were comming down?
certain stressful events will cause you to release less serotonin, this combined with the depletion near the end of the experience could of been what you felt.

don't take those first two supplements together, tryptophan in morning, B6 at bedtime. starting with B6
Title: Re: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: DiamondSky on January 11, 2013, 10:48 pm
Bad ecstasy trips are very similar to bad orgasms... haven't had one yet but I guess it's possible.

It's important to understand that MDMA is more often than not wildly euphoric but it's still your brain so you do get to steer the trip a bit. I used to take MDMA with a girlfriend and we would love it up and talk about how great everything was. Eventually though towards the end of our relationship she would steer the conversations towards what was wrong with us and that just sucked the joy right out of everything. I think getting to a negative place while being on MDMA just requires a bit more effort than a lot of other drugs out there.

If you haven't done a lot of mood altering substances in the past one of the golden rules is that the difference between a bad time and a good time is the conviction of thought that declares "I am going to enjoy this thing that is happening to me right now". As long as you beleive it it's going to be true.
Title: Re: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: PizzaBrain on January 11, 2013, 10:57 pm
The first time I dropped, nothing really happened. I'd had a few drinks and spent the whole time depressed, sitting in the stairwell of a club recalling bad memories.
I think it was only the 3rd time I actually felt any proper effects
Title: Re: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: jackass2.0 on January 12, 2013, 08:56 am
I took the same exact pill I took the first time, around 20 days ago, and this trip wasn't as fun as the last one. Does ecstasy cause bad trips ever?...

Did you keep the pill for 20 years or have you built a time machine?

Bad trips usually refer to an LSD experience, MDMA alone will rarely make you feel shit, unless you are dehydrated, overheated or doing too much. Then it can go bad. Can be fixed with benzos or speed.
Title: Re: Bad ecstasy trip?
Post by: theman22 on January 12, 2013, 12:26 pm
I took the same exact pill I took the first time, around 20 days ago, and this trip wasn't as fun as the last one. Does ecstasy cause bad trips ever?...

Did you keep the pill for 20 years or have you built a time machine?

Bad trips usually refer to an LSD experience, MDMA alone will rarely make you feel shit, unless you are dehydrated, overheated or doing too much. Then it can go bad. Can be fixed with benzos or speed.

sorry but i wouldnt really call breaking a lamp and getting depressed a bad trip.if you had of broke that lamp sober you would prob be depressed so doing it while on ecstasy its just making you express how you feel so your depression was heightened you could easily turned it around with happy thoughts,thats the great thing about drugs and the human brain.

i had a bad trip once..was at a rave one night was amazing real good pills cant remember what happened that night they were that good,went to friends house after had a few lines of cola,then a few hrs later took another pill an bang rolling hard again all good went home around 5 that afternoon and slept for 2 hrs had some food,then went back out to another friends house with a few drinks had 1 pill left over and said fuck it got it in me withing 40 mins,my whole body started to feel dodgy and my mind started to freak out cus of the feeling in my body,then i started to get really warm i ended up lying on my fiends bed curled up in a ball with my top off,trousers rolled up to my knees and a fan on full right beside me with sunglasses on for a few hours,seriously thought i was going to die the way i felt...now that was a bad trip,altho i put it down to being very dehydrated,exhaustion,overheating and taking a little bit more than i should have.