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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Wadozo on January 11, 2013, 09:25 pm
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Road side Drug Tests can be used to detect cannabis, ecstacy and meth/speed in my part of the world. Not sure about heroin, but cocaine is a drug not able to be tested for at the moment with road side test kits (yet). Just wondering if anyone had any tips, tricks or ideas on how to avoid testing positive? Looking forward to reading and learning about what methods people use (if any) to prevent or minimize the chance of returning a positive result. I realize different drugs stay in your system for different lengths of time, but is there any way to avoid detection or is it more like a cross your fingers and pray type of thing? :)
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Do you mean beat the test ON THE DRUGS to confirm it's identity?
Or beat the test on YOU to see if you're 'under the influence'?
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Do you mean beat the test ON THE DRUGS to confirm it's identity?
Or beat the test on YOU to see if you're 'under the influence'?
What he means is when they do the road side drug test and they take the saliva swab, how to test negative even though you are on something.
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Do you mean beat the test ON THE DRUGS to confirm it's identity?
Or beat the test on YOU to see if you're 'under the influence'?
What he means is when they do the road side drug test and they take the saliva swab, how to test negative even though you are on something.
Exactly pbody88. It's not looking good with regards to beating these saliva swab Drug tests by the looks of things. :(
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Would be very difficult, I think. How long after you take drugs can the roadside tests detect the presence of drugs?
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They say 4 days for ecstasy and meth/speed and up to 30 days for cannabis. Everyone is different of course but they are the figures provided by the manufacturer of the test kits.
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pretty sure there's a loophole that unlike alcohol, refusal to take the test wont result in license suspension
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Somebody mentioned a hydrogen peroxide based mouthwash in the other thread about this subject... Worth a crack I reckon.
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I haven't heard of roadside drug tests before. Have I just been lucky so far? That cop that just passed me, he didn't see the joint I had? I got one more thing to be paranoid about now... :-[
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I didnt think it would be 30 days for weed.. surely not, im pretty sure its gotta be over a certain level of intoxication, so its only if u are actually high at the time, from what I heard its only a few hours
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It seems odd to be able to detect mary-jane in your saliva beyond a couple of hours since saliva isn't really an excretory substance in your body, that is, not to excrete waste like piss. Don't know for sure, though...
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Interesting thread... I think the fact the saliva is a bodily fluid means it can likely contain traces of whatever is in ya body at the time the saliva is being produced... but then I wouldn't have a scientific clue either.
I would think a mouthwash type thing sounds most plausible, something that would dilute your saliva just prior to point of test, diluted to the point that the bulk of what is being tested is the 'mouthwash'. Be good if we could get it in mini caps, then we could carry them on us when driving and pop one in our mouth to crush as soon as we saw the blue disco lights ahead! Is that plausible?... no, probably not... maybe i shouldn't have had that pipe for lunch!
Anyway, like I said, interesting thread, thank you I will keep watching.
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pretty sure there's a loophole that unlike alcohol, refusal to take the test wont result in license suspension
That's not the case. It's the same rule for alcohol infringements where if you refuse, your charged with refusal to give a sample which is worse than a high range charge.
Thanks for the tip hands off black 7. +1 for you. :)
Road side Drug Test kits have been around for a while now and are slowly becoming more prevalent (fuck!). :'(
pbody88, I'm only going off the manufacturer's figures regarding the 30 days for cannabis. It does seem like an aweful long time, but 30 days would be a one off for someone in this world. Apparently, THC takes a long time for the body to break down compared with other illicit substances and remains in your system for longer periods of time. The initial swab test is only an indicator. If it shows a positive result, a second more thorough test is carried out in the bus with a professional, calibrated Drug testing machine capable of detecting a lot more. To top it off, your sample is then sent away for further lab testing to confirm the result. It's probably more like 15 days for your average cannabis user as apposed to 30 days IMO. Just to clarify, there's no level of intoxication you need to reach to be charged. All the test has to show is an indication of drugs in your system, unlike alcohol where there is a safe limit to stay below. :)
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How common is this roadside drug testing? I have never seen it.
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It is quite common today and is growing rapidly. The majority of Highway patrol cars are equipped with these kits now. It won't be long before it's as common as alcohol breath testing.
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In my part of the world, Police use a saliva swab test where the driver slides the test along their tongue. A 5 minute wait is all it takes for the results to show. If that's a positive result, a second test with a much more sophisticated machine is done where the driver has a test "strip" which they place under their tongue, protruding out of their mouth while leaning their head forward (eyes looking down) as this helps with saliva production. Then for confirmation, the test strip is sent to a lab for further testing. A 3 stage process in total.
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It seems that the conclusion is looking like if you take some drugs, drive and get pulled over for what ever reason, you're FUCKED!!! :( :'(
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Yep, I guess so... you bloody idiot ;D
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I don't think He only means if you drive while still under the influence of drugs. In America a person can be tested on site for drugs and there's no way for them to verify that the drugs are currently intoxicating the person or whether they were consumed days ago. If there are drugs in a persons system the are guilty of a DUID(Driving Under the Influence of Drugs). If they refuse the on site test, they are automatically guilty of a DUID. It DOES NOT have to be proven in court any more..
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I don't think He only means if you drive while still under the influence of drugs. In America a person can be tested on site for drugs and there's no way for them to verify that the drugs are currently intoxicating the person or whether they were consumed days ago. If there are drugs in a persons system the are guilty of a DUID(Driving Under the Influence of Drugs). If they refuse the on site test, they are automatically guilty of a DUID. It DOES NOT have to be proven in court any more..
Similar to Aust., however the driver must still attend court. They are charged with the offense but attend court for sentencing.
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*clearnet*
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284515,00.html
here is the "ex-cops" actual website
http://www.nevergetbusted.com/
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I have some ideas on how to beat this. Can anyone point to the specific brand that is being used? These tests usually involve complex molecules on the strip for detecting the compound, usually immunoassay using immobilized enzymes. You just need to find a non-harmful chemical which will denature this fragile compound or interfere. Put that into a gel cap type thing and sell them for 20$ a pop. Maybe even a drastic pH change will work?
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Yes DrDeep, I like it!... this DOES sound plausible.
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Yes Dr Deepwood! There's a metric shit-tonne of cash to be made from this... Make it so!
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I heard vinegar helps neutralize any nasty's on the tongue?
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DrDeepWood, considering your background I think you'd probably be the best person to investigate, create a product of this nature. What about it? You willing to look into it?
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Theres someone on here selling synthetic urine sachets/packets that you can place in your boxers when you get pulled over or drug tested at work.
search for "Synthetic Urin" without the E on the end. It's alot less hassle than getting someone to piss in a bag for you.
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Well that's fine and dandy, but we're talking about mouth swabs, not UA's.
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how long do yall think cannabis would stay in your saliva for a swab test for probation. Not road side but i know they can do urine and saliva tests for probation. Pretty sure it'd be the same as road side kit but just want to know.. because hell my whizzinator won't be worth shit if they saliva test me and it shows shit from damn 15 days ago.. may as well stop smoking!
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Swabs are pretty much useless unless you smoked right before the test (at least the one I was required to take). Unless you're a heavy user who decided to smoke same day, you should be fine.
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good deal. my first meeting i got cocky and smoked before i went in, therefore i wont be doing that again! ha