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Title: Changa dosage
Post by: psilocybinetic on August 18, 2012, 09:23 pm
I will be trying Changa (1/3 DMT) for the first time in a few days.
What is a good dose to start off? Note this is my first time with DMT as well, not just Changa.
Also, I can just use a glass pipe for the changa, right? I dont have to order no vapor pipe?

Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: turquoisecrayon on August 19, 2012, 01:42 am
As I understand the harmala does not decrease the amount of DMT you need, it just extends and adds character to the trip.

If you need 50 to 60 mg for a breakthrough on pure DMT (which you should), then you need 150 mg to 180 mg of changa.

I am in the exact same boat as you. I bought 1/3 DMT containing changa and I have never tried pure DMT. I have been unable to break through because the vapor genie knock off I bought is a piece of shit.

I did try smoking the changa straight and it did work, but it was very harsh. I don't think that actually burning the leaves is ideal but I haven't read any reports of it not working.
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: AnOn.edu on August 19, 2012, 02:49 am
I don't think that actually burning the leaves is ideal but I haven't read any reports of it not working.

I thought it was the leaves in changa that provide the inhibitors which allow for the DMT to be smoked?  Is that correct?
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: psilocybinetic on August 19, 2012, 02:57 am
I don't think that actually burning the leaves is ideal but I haven't read any reports of it not working.

I thought it was the leaves in changa that provide the inhibitors which allow for the DMT to be smoked?  Is that correct?

Yes, I believe that is the MAOI that does allow it to be smoked
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: turquoisecrayon on August 19, 2012, 06:53 am
Most changa has an MAOI infused into the leaves and the leaves themselves are often a very weak MAOI or not an MAOI at all. People definitely vape it and have full blown effects. They say vaping is ideal.
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: turquoisecrayon on August 19, 2012, 01:03 pm
Also, I am not sure if I am reading you correctly but no, DMT can definitely be smoked without MAO inhibition.
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: psilocybinetic on August 19, 2012, 04:59 pm
I'll invest in a vaporizer in the future, but for now can I smoke the Changa I'll be receiving from a regular bong? 
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: turquoisecrayon on August 19, 2012, 05:12 pm
Yeah. I am not an expert but you don't want to hold flame to bowl the whole time. You start a cherry and slowly spread it on the inhale.
Title: Re: Changa dosage
Post by: turquoisecrayon on August 20, 2012, 12:21 am
Did you break through man?

I tried for the first time but was stricken after a couple hits with a sense of unbearable dread. I ended up having a near death experience.