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Title: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: looselucy on December 30, 2012, 02:21 pm
I have a love/hate affair going with shrooms which is epically tragic as I have what appears to be a 9" white thumb when it comes to growing fungi. The body load during come-uppence has become nearly unbearable: last time after dosing approximately 60g fresh cubes, spent the first two hours in a nauseous hell, a fair amt of it on the porcelain throne shitting my guts out. Most serotonergic chemicals affect me this way, including L, but with shrooms it is now so bad, that I may have to quit using them altogether--hence my plea fo some sound advice.

The bronchoconstriction and anxiety I can deal with--a puff off an inhaler and I'm good to go. Wondering if anyone has tried Zofran--a 5HT3 antagonist that would appear to have the potential to nip it in the bud, but concerned it might also interfere with the rest....  :-[

Or any other tips that may save my career as a psilocybe psyconaut.

Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: goblin on December 30, 2012, 02:51 pm
Number one, don't eat fresh shrooms, dry them first. There's less mass to contend with. It's best to powder them if you can, and dissolve them in orange juice.

Second, eat it slowly, over the course of an hour or so for a large dose. The coming up will be smoother, and you'll get just as high.

And third, always do shrooms on an empty stomach. Problem solved.

goblin
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: looselucy on December 30, 2012, 03:33 pm
Thanks. maybe I'll pursue that again--but I find dry almost unpalatable (tea, whatever) and have considered powderizing--but don't have a suitable chopper/food processor at the moment. But I am not sure that is the answer unless its reduces the interaction with serotonin receptors in the gut--let me rephrase: even acid sends my guts a churning, empty stomach or not--but w/o nausea. Shrooms seem to be worse, a lot worse--maybe I need to try some synthetic tryptamines to test this out--I know there's a lot more in shrooms than just psilosybin that are potentially gut wrenching. FWIW my friend who i usually imbibe with has no problems GI wise whatsoever--just as blissful as a cheshire cat.   But feeedback appreciated and yes 60-100 grams of fungal material at a time is asking for trouble....  :o
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: PlutoPete on December 30, 2012, 04:03 pm
Try smoking a weed/mushroom spliff before eating the shrooms. I remember that worked with me when i was younger :)
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: blueveil on December 30, 2012, 04:35 pm
Smoke some bud and time out your dosing longer to keep it from hitting you at once like SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: moonflower on December 30, 2012, 08:44 pm
as others have said, smoke weed! never fails to get rid of any nausea or anxiety i might be having... definitely your best be. just don't mix weed and mushrooms in a spliff, that'd be a waste of mushies as smoking them does nothing. :)
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: Doc_Tryptamine on December 30, 2012, 10:42 pm
I have an iron stomach, so I usually don't get nausea from drugs. However, you might want to try making 'shroom chocolates. Then you don't have to worry about the taste, and I think it may help with the nausea too.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: QS on December 30, 2012, 11:31 pm
Zofran will keep you from puking more than likely.  However it runs about 13 bucks a pill from a pharmacy, pretty expensive stuff on top of the price of shrooms.  I dont know if there would be any interactions with shroms, but zofran's main side effects alone can give you a pretty bad headache and constipation after it wears off.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: tempo on December 30, 2012, 11:36 pm
Are you sure that there are no contaminations?
Grow your own mushrooms and check the substrate every harvest.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 30, 2012, 11:44 pm
Zofran will keep you from puking more than likely.  However it runs about 13 bucks a pill from a pharmacy, pretty expensive stuff on top of the price of shrooms.  I dont know if there would be any interactions with shroms, but zofran's main side effects alone can give you a pretty bad headache and constipation after it wears off.

I've managed to get some Zofran before from an oncologist's office, but that's another story. As stated, it's expensive as shit and has side effects of it's own. I recommend something like weed, or promethazine, or if you can get one; one of those scopolamine motion sickness patches.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: mmmolly44 on December 30, 2012, 11:58 pm
I've heard a dramamine works quite nice, or possibly any other over the counter nausea treatment.  Weed is good but it's not always an option.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: PlutoPete on December 31, 2012, 12:09 am
as others have said, smoke weed! never fails to get rid of any nausea or anxiety i might be having... definitely your best be. just don't mix weed and mushrooms in a spliff, that'd be a waste of mushies as smoking them does nothing. :)
Smoking mushrooms definitely has a psychoactive effect, it's not a trip because you can only put a tiny amount in each spliff, but it definitely does more than just weed :)
It's like taking your eyeballs out and polishing them, everything has a sparkle.
That's smoking Liberty Caps, Psilocybe Semilanceata, the effects are similar with Amanita Muscaria :)
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: moonflower on December 31, 2012, 12:26 am
as others have said, smoke weed! never fails to get rid of any nausea or anxiety i might be having... definitely your best be. just don't mix weed and mushrooms in a spliff, that'd be a waste of mushies as smoking them does nothing. :)
Smoking mushrooms definitely has a psychoactive effect, it's not a trip because you can only put a tiny amount in each spliff, but it definitely does more than just weed :)
It's like taking your eyeballs out and polishing them, everything has a sparkle.
That's smoking Liberty Caps, Psilocybe Semilanceata, the effects are similar with Amanita Muscaria :)
oh really? i thought it was just a myth. i have smoked amanita extract though and got very slight effects... still wouldn't waste any mushies trying that, unless of course i was growing them!
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: metaphoe on December 31, 2012, 01:04 am
yup.. empty stomach.. maybe a lil' water or fluids.

and if it gets bad.. some promethazine. it knocks out the NAUSEA in a FLASH !!!
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: mushitup on December 31, 2012, 02:09 am
Number one, don't eat fresh shrooms, dry them first.

Blasphemy!  I've never had mushrooms of any type give me nausea so I can't help there, bit of an iron gut I guess.  You could try making a tea with your shrooms and see if a slower intake helps at all.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: D1rtR0ad on December 31, 2012, 02:19 am
Mix up some dirty sprite or purple drank whatever you want to call it. Then consume the Shrooms with that. As I thought about it I think that would be an interesting combo. I can only imagine the high of Codeine and Promethazine followed by Shrooms. But to answer your question Promethazine is what you are looking for. Promethazine is fairly cheap and you can either use it suppository or tablet form. Zofran dissolves in your mouth and works faster than Promethazine, but either of the 2 should work for you.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 31, 2012, 02:30 am
I do offer the cheapest promethazine tablets on the market at the moment. I second promethazine, but of course have a bias. Shame it isn't OTC in the US.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 31, 2012, 03:51 am
I have another suggestion:

Lorazepam has antiemetic effects. It's a subtle intermediate lasting benzo.

It is sometimes used in chemotherapy as an adjunct to antiemetics for treating anticipatory nausea and vomiting, i.e. nausea and vomiting caused or worsened by psychological sensitization to the thought of being sick. It is also used as adjunct therapy for cyclic vomiting syndrome.

Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: mojorizen on December 31, 2012, 04:02 am
Chase that shit down with cherry flava pepto bismol. In fact, 1/2 dose pepto to start, narl up yo shrooms, other half of pepto to chase. Never had a puke problem doing that and you get rid of the nasty shroom taste.

Other thing, shroom sandwhich. Country white bread, honey on both sides, shrooms in the middle. Eat that over the course of 30 mins with a glass of OJ to chase it down and...

you might forget your name. 
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on December 31, 2012, 06:21 am
OR you could cut out all the bullshit and take 4-AcO-DMT that converts to psilocybin (4-PO-DMT) in the stomach. You'll get 50 doses per gram... talk to Limitless if you need that shit.

Happy New Year bitches :D
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 31, 2012, 07:07 am
OR you could cut out all the bullshit and take 4-AcO-DMT that converts to psilocybin (4-PO-DMT) in the stomach. You'll get 50 doses per gram... talk to Limitless if you need that shit.

Happy New Year bitches :D

I sold 4-ho caps over the summer and they gave people more nausea than mushrooms.  ???
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: paxous on December 31, 2012, 04:37 pm
whats the best strain in your opinion?
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: looselucy on December 31, 2012, 06:41 pm
Thanks for all the suggestions. Couple quick comments--zofran is available here on the road for something like 30 to 40 cents a tab (generic). Promethazine might be worth a try. This of course is a weak assed antipsychotic which always gives me pause when trying to get psychotic  ;   But sounds as if not enuf of one to block the effects.

One thing I would like to share as honey has never worked to disguise the taste of mushrooms--what we have found is pina colada mix with all that coconut does a magnificent job. With or without rum your call.

Favorite Strain--all of the cubes are more or less the same stength with the exception possibly of penis envy. The whole strain thing is considered to be a lot of hype from many of the experienced users at the shroomery. Genetically not different enough to be considered true strains--more like different races. That said, the woodoving species are on average substantially more potent than cubes, but not as easy to grow.
Title: Re: Shroom lovers--best method to beat nausea; is Zofran an option? Other methods?
Post by: year on January 01, 2013, 10:57 pm
I have yet to try psilocybin mushrooms, but I've found nausea induced from regular mushrooms to be easily cleared up with a digestive enzyme tablet. I have no idea how this would effect the digestion of the compound and the trip itself.

In terms of anxiety, I've read that larger doses help rid anxiety by more fully immersing the mind, not everyone agrees with that though.