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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: krishicall19 on May 29, 2012, 09:22 pm
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Like the subject says, any experience with deathb4dishonor? Thinking of placing a large order. Any info would be appreciated.
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I'd stay away. I placed an order, the pills looked sort of shady but I thought whatever, took some and they didn't do anything for me, and i've taken plenty of addy before, i think he must sell fakes. i had already given him positive feedback so too late.
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Did you get the orange/red capsules with no markings on it? One of the capsules I got was empty. Does not look legit, but I may be wrong until I try one. Price is almost too good.
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Yeah, super sketchy looking. They did not work for me, he probably just buys capsules and fills them with whatever. I should have known better the price was way too low compared with other addy sellers
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I ordered from him, thinking he had the generic pill adderall. I got the orange capsules as well, with 20mgs of some crystally looking white powder that clumps together really easy. Maybe it's street speed? Though I didn't think we had much of that in the US. I haven't tried it yet as I'm a little worried what it is.
I took a chance on him since I had some cash left over in my SR account that I couldn't really buy anything else with it. Not really missing it but still, it'd be nice to just have something to show for it.
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I am surprised he still has 100% positive feedback. Of course, I am one of the dumb asses that gave him 5 out of 5.
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Just received my 10 blank orange gel caps of what I can tell is...baking soda.
I'm pretty new to this, but WTF, this seller has a 100% rating!
I realize the seller takes a chance on us, but blatently sending a fake (and not even remotely close) product? This is in a category of its own.
I haven't posted feedback yet, is there any reason to not give him a 1 out of 5? Except that it will hurt my stats?
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Considering we are all feeling screwed by this guy, I would leave him negative feedback before he cons anyone else.
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I guess I'll do that. Has anyone msg'd this guy or attempted to resolve the order?
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Naw but I am tempted to, pretty sure I will. I'm sure the scammer won't be offering any refunds though obviously
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I have messaged him asking what is in these just now. We'll see what he says. I stayed in escrow so I am not worried. I really hope most of you stayed in escrow as well, as there was no pressure to FE, which would be rather foolish with such a new seller.
It seems strange he wouldn't require FE if he was just going to scam us.
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Let us know what he says if he gets back to you!
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I had a very small order. I'm glad I stayed in escrow. The price compared to the majority of SR vendors is great... Almost put in a much bigger order. Glad I didn't. I've been screwed out of a decent amount of money on SR. Mostly due to my own stupidity. Live and learn!
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Let us know what he says if he gets back to you!
I will do that. I don't have high hopes however :( I'm curious if maybe they have an RC in them? Perhaps ethylphenidate or something similar. I really want to experiment but I try not to take mystery chemicals.
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I stayed in escrow but there is no "resolve" option to click. Does this mean I can get a full refund? I'm not a total idiot when it comes to computers, but good god, there have been almost no instructions for most of this process. Especially those damn bitcoin. Anyway, I haven't left feedback yet, msg'd the seller, I'll let you know the response.
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Wow, I'm glad I asked. Thanks everyone. Maybe he should be added to the list?
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He gave me full refund and a similar explanation, so obviously not a scammer. Still though I think he should update his listings so buyers know exactly what to expect. If you just expect to get generic adderall, you might freak when you see you received unlabeled homemade capsules.
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He gave me a refund and an explanation as well. I wasn't even looking for one but he did anyway. Definitely a stand-up guy. I could care less that it's not brand-generic adderall as long as it will get me going. I will be ordering from him in the future for sure.
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Giving out unsolicited refunds? Sounds like he's trying to build a false sense of security to me. I have yet to hear anyone say anything good about the product itself.
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Giving out unsolicited refunds? Sounds like he's trying to build a false sense of security to me. I have yet to hear anyone say anything good about the product itself.
Yep, I'm waiting for someone braver than myself to have 1 or however many it takes to see what's what. Was definitely sketched when the capsules showed up. If it turns out it's definitely addy then I don't mind the homemade capsules.
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I ordered from deathb4dishonor, they offered me a nice discount so I ordered some pills.
I had sent and received some messages, fast answers to my questions so I ordered, but after placing the order I heard nothing except for getting my order canceled 4 days later?!
They replied unfortunately international shipments were delayed, and they would ship it a week later - fine, that would still be on time for me.
So, later I ordered it again, they send me a message they would ship it ASAP, but then 2 days later - order canceled again!
Sent them a message asking why it was canceled yet again, but no response....
Seems like a shady seller... Too bad, the prices seemed to finally break the insane Adderall-prices on SR.
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Corwin of Amber, you said the amphetamine was verified independently, perhaps you would be willing to post GC-MS results if you have them? This could possibly put minds at ease about the purity of the product.
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He gave me a refund too after I messaged him. A lot of other new vendors would probably have run with the money. Maybe he's trying to make things right. But he should have been much more upfront and more specific about what he was selling (basically "DIY Adderall"). I haven't tried them, yet. I will tomorrow and will let you guys know if it anything like what the pharm companies are producing. The price is simply ridiculous... just what the SR marketplace needs to help with the outrageous adderall prices.
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Just got a msg from the seller regarding product (solid orange caps with strange white substance clearly not adderall).
Very low believability on this one but this is his explanation:
1. Claims a switch to unmarked capsules was recently made, but, labeled capsules are available upon request.
2. Claims substance in capsules was Amphetamine Sulfate (Pharm Grade?)
---At this point at least a couple people have ingested some amount of the caps (orally I assume), all reporting zero result. Anyone with experience with Amphetamine S.? Maybe it's not to be taken orally? I know, one in a million on it being anything of value.
Obv, even if the caps contain Amph S. it's still a fraudulent listing. Thought I'd share the seller explanation.
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I tried one yesterday. Definitely revved me up, but not really like normal adderall. It was a pretty intense high, but not exactly a pleasant one. I just felt super wired and fidgety, not alert and focused like I am with normal adderall. It lasted for about 2 hours and then I just crashed. I pretty much just passed out on the couch and slept for 2.5 hours. I have never crashed that hard after 20 mg of real adderall, IR or EX. So definitely a stimulant, but not really like adderall, in my opinion. Seller was cool about giving explanation and refund, saying that it would be a free sample, but I would never be interested in purchasing the same stuff again. I will just be looking for sellers that sell legitimate stuff, even if it is WAY more expensive.
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If the seller is giving full refunds, and to be extra fair given the special potential of this site, the seller isn't a true "scammer".
The big issue here is not whether there is Amph in those caps, it's that the listing was for a very specific product, Adderall, which is a very specific mix of types of amphetamines AND made by a pharmaceutical company, the brand name and licensed generics, that's what adderall means to buyers.
Privately made amphetamine is not Adderall, just as privately made meth is not Desoxyn. So the listing is misleading and needs to be changed.
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=/ wish i woulda saw this earlier. Gonna have to cancel my order now...
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I hope the manufacture of Adderall does not sue them for trademark infringement :-\.
This one is also up in the air for me. I am too chicken to try one and see what the hell it is. I am in discussions with them to find an amicable solution to this order I have........probably inexperienced new vendor with what appears fair intentions. I would like to see some viewable test results and/or reviews from a forum veteran or two......
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Tried one yesterday. Nothing. Definitely does not feel like regular adderall. I don't know what the heck is in these. I thank the vendor for the refund but he should have been much more upfront about what he was selling. These are NOT Adderalls! They may or may not have amphetamines in them, but they sure are not adderalls. Good like everyone.
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Alright, any more word about this vendor.
I am glad that all of these went to one customer, but if they f*cked up my reputation with this customer it is not a good look.
I was a bit skeptical to see they were capsules vs. tablets when they arrived but I had to take the gamble because of the pricing.
I need an adderall vendor that can work with me on the pricin. I have 3 customers that spend 100 every week and no one can get me addy's 20 mg's under 10 bucks on SR.
The greed on here is PHENOMENAL!
Everybody and there mom knows addy's go for about 5 on the streets before this past year or so. It's a miracle I can charge double and my customers don't blink an eye.
I have tried to stay quiet about this sh!t but there needs to be vendors a real life vendor can go to and get bulk pricing PERIOD!
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Hey guys,
Long time Silk Roader, that has earned enough cred here to have a valid opinion.
First of all: the vendor. Deathb4dishonour is the real deal in terms of how he handles his business. He is outstanding, personable, and accomodates anything that is asked of him. He receives a 5/5 from me for this. He even went out of his way to ensure that I was OK with buying amphetamine sulfate, since that's really all that's in the capsules. I can understand everyone's concerns on how pure or legit the powder is in the capsules, and that much I cannot say one way or the other.
Effects: Those who say they received zero effects from these capsules either have an extremely high tolerance or are full of shit. I personally took 5mg out because 30mg is too much for my body weight, and 25mg was perfect. I felt a slight surge about 20 mins after ingesting, of happiness and urge to chat. This continued on for another hour or so. I then decided to have a few cocktails because what the fuck isn't made better with alcohol? Then I was feeling the buzz of the alcohol while remaining alert and a bit on the chatty side. Probably around hour 5 or 6 I was ready for bed. Taken during the morning hours, yes I felt the need to crash maybe around 8pm after ingesting around noon. I was dead tired and not really sociable.
Conclusion: I did feel alert, and energetic, so I would say I felt more like I took some speed and felt quite alert in that sense. It's obvious that it's not Adderall because everyone who takes adderall knows what chemicals are involved in each tab and its not just amphetamine sulfate. I enjoyed the pills for what it was advertised as: Amphetamine Sulfate. Was it worth the price? Sure, he gave a heluva bonus. Why is everyone complaining? If you want Adderall, go pay the overpriced fees for them. Otherwise, enjoy the amphetamine sulfate capsules being offered here like I did. I do think death should re-label his item for sale from generic Adderall to perhaps Speed or something though.
TL;DR - Good amphetamine sulfate capsules; not 100% adderall but any idiot can figure that out.
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I am with Brenzer on this. Not only is this vendor the nicest "scammer" the communication is there, everything. I definitely could feel the affects - I personally was informed of them being hand capped so I don't give a shit. These are a bit speedy but I was focused like add's. To each their own I suppose. I'd def stick with deathb4dihonor its plain to see he isn't a scammer.
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I've placed two orders with deathb4, and can state that his product does work!
I've been taking one pill daily for the past two weeks. I've taken Adderall and Vyvanse before, and have had similar effects from the homemade capsules. I experience focused concentration for roughly 5 hours, before the effects ease off. The crash isn't so bad either. After 5 hours I'm still able to work, and have been on a normal sleep schedule.
This seller is also quite concerned with customer satisfaction. From what I've read, if you're unsatisfied with the product, he will refund your order immediately. I've heard no real complaints regarding this vendor (it seems that some customers complained and posted 1/5 reviews, even though they were refunded or would have been refunded had they asked).
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I agree DBD has been stellar in the customer service arena, but they need to list it in the speed category and might as well save some time and sell it by the gram(s). Just the initial false advertising caused me to just toss them.
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I ordered some. Quick response. Fast shipping/good packaging etc. The pills do work although slightly different than adderall. He lists the product as amphetamine sulfate. Some are saying it is the same as street speed which in theory is true. The difference to me is that most street speed is crap and very low percentage of actual amphetamine sulphate. Street speed is based on amphetamine sulfate for a reason....it works. Amph sulfate is the mother drug from which all the amphetamine salts come from. In adderall they are just mixing the salts in different amounts because some work better for focus and other add related problems while the others metabolize at different rates and extend duration of action etc. All are equally habit forming and taxing to the body so to me it is just a matter of whether you dislike the stigma that comes with amphetamine sulfate. It didn't come from the street it was being consumed by millions of people in the form of Benzedrine for years and was prescribed for everything from add and narcolepsy to weight loss. The drug companies just tweaked it and made it slightly more effective for add/adhd. I can understand why people are saying that he shouldn't call it adderall. But adderall is much more popular than speed and he probably get's a lot more business for having the adderall name in the listing. If you read through the listing it clearly explains what it is. So if he wants to get more traffic by being listed with the adderall it really doesn't bother me as long as the information is there and people can make an informed decision. In my opinion it works in a very similar way or close enough that the difference is negligible. Some people might react differently to it but for the price I think it is definitely worth trying (especially if you are fed up with the adderall prices as I am). Just my two cents.
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Legit seller. Package came as advertised, decent packaging. I'm domestic, so it really doesn't have to be anything fancy. Ordered late Sunday night, arrived first thing Wednesday morning.
It'd definitely amphetamine. Chemistry time: amphetamine has a dextro- and a levo- isomer. Same structure, mirror images. the dextro- is the more active (in the fun ways). Adderall is about 50% dextro and 50% racemic (racimic is a mixture of dextro and levo), so we'll call it 75% dextro for ease. There are also multiple different salts in adderall, also, which act in different ways. DB4D's capsules are likely the racemic, as the dextro alone is challenging to separate out.
DB4D's capsules are likely a racemic mixture of amphetamine sulfate. Some dextro, some levo. Plus, it looks like they're hand-capped, so do dosage might vary some from cap to cap. Don't expect it to be adderall, but do expect amphetamine effects. My house is clean as a whistle!
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SUPER-FAST shipping, great communication, product as described. Plus, they're cheap, and they were nice enough to give more free product than paid-for sample. 5/5.
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I too like deathb4dishonor's product. It does the trick for me, not quite the same feeling as Adderall, but better than Dexedrine, as far as my likes go. Ingesting is the way to go as it burns pretty bad when I tried a snort. All in all a good deal, and I'll be back for more to help "in-between" my regular scrip refills. That's when I got them last time, and it made a world of difference.
Anything that fights the greediness of the majority of addy sellers on here, I'll support.