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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Holly on March 24, 2012, 03:20 am
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& why were his threads deleted?
I don't think his threads should have been deleted because it got 300+ views and he clearly named
out a reputable vendor on here.
on note of that another vendor has claimed he placed another order shipping to the exact same address so that leads me to believe he was just a troll..
yet I bet a majority of users were tweaked the fuck out because of him and the thread being deleted surely doesn't help? :o
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That would be helpful? So we could you know......ummmm Protect ourselves! bring back thread please!
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I'd like to hear more of what happened as well.
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+1.
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I think it's bullshit.. Someone who just had his drop "raided by the fbi" and had his "friends arrested by the fbi" would not be all over SR posting details about it. In fact, he also messaged that "certain vendor" 3 hours ago telling them to "stop vending and go on vacation for a few weeks"
Seems a bit odd, right?
Only thing that confuses me is that he has a legit buyer history with numerous transactions from multiple vendors.. Unless maybe it's a buyers account of a current competing vendor who uses drugs himself... I don't know..
Something doesn't add up though.
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I think people need to stop worrying. I forgot that even happened because I got high. This place is just too anonymous (and Awesome ;D)
But I really don't know how LE can get good info to arrest people from these forums. We never say our real names out in the open and most of the time no one talks about the real shipping methods for products.
This place is more of an loving community talking about life, vendors, security, and obviously drugs. 8)
And we, the buyers, can talk to the people who make this site happen and the people who give us the medicine we need.
How does it feel? To be on your own? No direction home, Like a rolling stone 8)
So awesome hahahaha
Goddamn tony, Your regular H is pretty damn strong. Took me so long to write this. hahaha
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I think it's bullshit.. Someone who just had his drop "raided by the fbi" and had his "friends arrested by the fbi" would not be all over SR posting details about it. In fact, he also messaged that "certain vendor" 3 hours ago telling them to "stop vending and go on vacation for a few weeks"
Seems a bit odd, right?
Only thing that confuses me is that he has a legit buyer history with numerous transactions from multiple vendors.. Unless maybe it's a buyers account of a current competing vendor who uses drugs himself... I don't know..
Something doesn't add up though.
Maybe LE using his account to spread fear? Seems unlikely though and is super conspiracy theory territory.
But yea, getting on SR right after your friends are going down seems pretty retarded.
I think i'd be destroying the USB key with SR/TOR/BTC info on it and taking a long vacation from the deepweb. Fuck whatever money i'd lose.
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We, OP did say it was a drop, and a friend. This is very likely. Very likely the friend popped off at the mouth, and got their ass busted. And the OP is most likely scared fucking shitless, and seemingly just wanting to protect anyone else involved, by telling them shit went down.
I didn't see the post, I have no clue. I was only thinking it is probable.
But if it's true, their friend will roll.
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It sounds to me like they attracted too much attention by constantly checking a mailbox that isn't theirs, the nosy neighbors probably called the police or if they're dark skinned homeland security.
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He was likely full of shit so it's good that he's fucked off and left the forum alone. And if he wasn't, hopefully he's fucked off to find an attorney. But I am still disappointed that the threads got killed.
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I find the apparent operating procedure of deleting threads that have to do with being arrested / raided in relation to orders placed here, to be far more annoying than I would find fifty troll posts.
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Maybe LE using his account to spread fear? Seems unlikely though and is super conspiracy theory territory.
It is not conspiracy theory territory in fact it is a well studied technique to attack non-hierarchical networks like sr.
It is also possible to initiate internal attacks on criminal networks, however, where the objective is to create dysfunctional relations that seriously degrade the capacity of the network to function effectively. One option, for example, might be to destroy trust through misinformation and actions designed to create suspicion and acrimony. One way of doing this would be to identify some of the network crossovers and, rather than remove them, use them to feed misinformation into the network. Not only could this have a corrosive internal effect, but also it could encourage the criminals to move in directions that make them increasingly vulnerable to external attack.
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1382/MR1382.ch3.pdf
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I find the apparent operating procedure of deleting threads that have to do with being arrested / raided in relation to orders placed here, to be far more annoying than I would find fifty troll posts.
Yeah, but if it was my money maker, I would delete many threads of that nature too... if I thought they were full of holes and didn't seem solid, or unless some valuable "counter intelligence" could be spread from leaving them for the community to discuss. To hell with rumor and conjecture, put up or shut up if you're gonna come here and make claims of busts and raids.
Let's not forget that Silk Road is a business... a very successful, money-making enterprise in which a lot of time and effort and imagination are invested... Higher and more learned principles notwithstanding, I would protect it as best I could if I had put my blood, sweat, tears and toil into it.
And I hope DPR, et al are making bank. More money means better security, more research, upgrades to equipment, redundancy... More investment. More to protect...
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Wouldn't it make sense if this "asshole" did delete his threads? Who wouldn't do the same. The only reason he would come back is from a whole new computer/location and a new account. Some account with very little posts. This is all conjecture, but heres what I think.
He had perfect buyer stats from multiple vendors. He edited out vendors name and deleted threads. He probably destroyed computer and cut off all contact with Roommate A and Roommate B and obviously the nosey neighbor. He has probably contacted an attorney and has sufficient legal protection. The case against him is flakey at best. Without a proof of purchase or any substantial evidence against him he has little need for worry. He has probable deniability and a whole truck load of legal options to defeat any pending charges.
When the other vendor came fourth and said "wow im glad my package came through that same day" he clarified by saying he used two different addresses due to vendors package being over a week sense order and more importantly from all the sketchiness involved with the nosey neighbor. I would imagine he would change addresses if not stop ordering all together.
He obviously wasn't out for slander otherwise he wouldn't have edited out vendors name. He never said his friends got arrested, he stated that when roommate B checked the mail he was confronted by local LE and FBI. Which without him being there and without careful inspection on the roommates part cold have been a variety of Federal LE. People use the term FBI as a broad description of cops in suits.
I remember his threads pretty clearly actually.
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We, OP did say it was a drop, and a friend. This is very likely. Very likely the friend popped off at the mouth, and got their ass busted. And the OP is most likely scared fucking shitless, and seemingly just wanting to protect anyone else involved, by telling them shit went down.
I didn't see the post, I have no clue. I was only thinking it is probable.
But if it's true, their friend will roll.
Your on to something here. From wathcing the thread go down this is the vibes I got as well
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It sounds to me like they attracted too much attention by constantly checking a mailbox that isn't theirs, the nosy neighbors probably called the police or if they're dark skinned homeland security.
This is also what I think happened. The other vendors who shipped him an order probably had a different address because shady shit was going down. Thats my guess at least from watching the threads and remembering what he wrote.
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I pretty much believe he was just a troll, but since he had a good buying history I don't know what to think. If I was a vender I would blacklist sending to people like that troll or not. I don't really see what an established account has to gain from acting like that as a joke. And that to other vender that just sent something to his address, I hope he was trolling because LEO could just be using his account to make purchases from venders.
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I pretty much believe he was just a troll, but since he had a good buying history I don't know what to think. If I was a vender I would blacklist sending to people like that troll or not. I don't really see what an established account has to gain from acting like that as a joke. And that to other vender that just sent something to his address, I hope he was trolling because LEO could just be using his account to make purchases from venders.
You think he was a troll? He had good buying history and edited out vendors name and deleted his threads. Not troll behavior at all, not slander behavior at all either. I don't see what was to gain either, it probably wasn't a fucking joke. Oh, the other vendor who sold him stuff the same day? he was a no name vendor with no feedback and trying to comeback from a bad reputation. Not anyone LE would hit.
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This place is more of an loving community talking about life, vendors, security, and obviously drugs. 8)
It's odd that you note this, as I had a similar thought recently. For the most part this community is VERY supporting and willing to provide constructive feedback for folks who are genuine. Yes, there are folks are are short/rude/assholes, but for the most part it's not that way. I've seen very few forums with that mentality.
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Well, what if it's all in his mind? What kind of goodies has he been getting lately? Maybe a meth binge gone wrong? lol, at least i'd hope it's something not as serious.
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I'm still very new here... but if mods are deleting posts talking about people getting busted... that really concerns me.
I am depending on the free flow of information on this forum to help me gauge the safety of doing this on a day to day basis.
If the shit were to hit the fan, Tor cracks, or SR cracks, I would be counting on the free flow of information to quickly warn me of the situation so I could take proper precautions.
I hope mods aren't deleting honest posts about people getting caught.
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I'm still very new here... but if mods are deleting posts talking about people getting busted... that really concerns me.
I am depending on the free flow of information on this forum to help me gauge the safety of doing this on a day to day basis.
If the shit were to hit the fan, Tor cracks, or SR cracks, I would be counting on the free flow of information to quickly warn me of the situation so I could take proper precautions.
I hope mods aren't deleting honest posts about people getting caught.
Agreed. +1
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The Mods didnt delete the thread. MakesMeShout did. Wouldn't you do the same?
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this reeks of the proverbial 'bullshit'
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It all sounds like good bedtime reading to me, not a shred of proof
Either way, use encryption, use your head.
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Yep: there's always been crazy shit where you kind of have to read between the lines. And just another good reason that for any serious doings to use, say, TAILS on a flash stick from a library or coffee shop https://tails.boum.org/about/index.en.html
Between paranoia and caution there's a big old grey area, but I agree with poster that most bad stuff I've read on here, often seems to come more from talking too much in a bar and such, rather than any serious investigations.
We just never know, and a little bit of buddhist acceptance is probably more valuable than all the tech protection I could come up with.
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tails>parking lot wifi>vpn>tor makes my niga dik rock hard
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Earlier, when I had joined this forum, I heard rumors of a very long thread that was deleted, that discussed actual busts and other negative activity that happened in connection to buying/selling via SR. I wonder what happened to that?
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Out of curiosity, have mods ever responded to the "threads were deleted" talk?
I would be surprised to see they've deleted threads unless the comments were obviously threatening to SR or to someone IRL.