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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: mindman on August 24, 2012, 06:57 pm
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hey,
just wanted to get some feedback on this purple mdma?
because we all know its causing problems. everybody who likes moon rocks hates this shit. (at least those that i know)
as i thought more about this, a bunch of things started to formulate (and with the help of a few PM's made by a member who i hope will make an appearance in this thread) I began to see things wrong with this stuff, and one of its vendors: Gelman
In his thread a lot of people know that I had problems with this guy. A few things I would like to point out about this guy, he claims to have the same source as RV but RV and him are not connected. He did not support RV's endorsement. Gelman also advised his samplers *though i did not read up on that forum post as i was gone for a day or two) that they should not take more than 150mg or so. That they would start to feel bad? Why did he know so much about it when RV knew nothing of the sort, i know because Ive had discussions with RV about dosing and what not. Nothing to specific though. This leads me to believe that Gelman is closer to the source than we think, but fuck its all speculation.
*AFTER READING THIS LOOK INTO THE TEST RESULTS OF 5ABP 6ABP
this is not my finding but one brought to my attention by a fellow member. but if it brings negative karma, i dont mind taking a hit especially if it means that it will eventually take down a domestic scam.
The tests for said chemicals are almost identical to MDMA, except for a few things. see if you find the same things i did. One is blatant and the same every time. the other is inconsistent and will change from test to test, but both lead me to believe that this PURPLE mdma is nothing but Mdxx traces coated with rc bull shit.
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The chemist that supplies the MDMA Gelman has, and what Domintarix claims supposed to have, is not fucking 5-APB and is nothing near it It does not come from the chemist to be this way, if it is a contaminated batch it is the vendor's doing.
Also I wouldn't call the MDMA 'purple' in any way. It is by the far the BEST mdma I have ever gotten to date, and it shits on the moonrocks as far as e-data testing went.
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hey,
just wanted to get some feedback on this purple mdma?
because we all know its causing problems. everybody who likes moon rocks hates this shit. (at least those that i know)
as i thought more about this, a bunch of things started to formulate (and with the help of a few PM's made by a member who i hope will make an appearance in this thread) I began to see things wrong with this stuff, and one of its vendors: Gelman
In his thread a lot of people know that I had problems with this guy. A few things I would like to point out about this guy, he claims to have the same source as RV but RV and him are not connected. He did not support RV's endorsement. Gelman also advised his samplers *though i did not read up on that forum post as i was gone for a day or two) that they should not take more than 150mg or so. That they would start to feel bad? Why did he know so much about it when RV knew nothing of the sort, i know because Ive had discussions with RV about dosing and what not. Nothing to specific though. This leads me to believe that Gelman is closer to the source than we think, but fuck its all speculation.
*AFTER READING THIS LOOK INTO THE TEST RESULTS OF 5ABP 6ABP
this is not my finding but one brought to my attention by a fellow member. but if it brings negative karma, i dont mind taking a hit especially if it means that it will eventually take down a domestic scam.
The tests for said chemicals are almost identical to MDMA, except for a few things. see if you find the same things i did. One is blatant and the same every time. the other is inconsistent and will change from test to test, but both lead me to believe that this PURPLE mdma is nothing but Mdxx traces coated with rc bull shit.
Did you reagent test what you got from him. Also people can have the the same connects and not know about each other.
My experience with 5 and 6 apb is they both have alot of body load unlike MDMA also when i reagent tested them they do react to a purplish color but still not the same as some goood Mdma that will go almost instantly to black with Mecke and marquis. How did you feel on the Gelman stuff ?
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*The mass is calling it purple, I never thought it was purple, ever from the pictures. Dont really thinks you need to be nit picking the title, but thats oks guess we all bitch.
Did this MDMA really pass with flying colors?
The Mecke test went straight black, not green to black. The simons test, usually producing a big spot of blue, was very inconsistent providing the tester with various splotches of blue. This make me think there is traces of MDMA in this, but its not pure.
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hey,
just wanted to get some feedback on this purple mdma?
because we all know its causing problems. everybody who likes moon rocks hates this shit. (at least those that i know)
as i thought more about this, a bunch of things started to formulate (and with the help of a few PM's made by a member who i hope will make an appearance in this thread) I began to see things wrong with this stuff, and one of its vendors: Gelman
In his thread a lot of people know that I had problems with this guy. A few things I would like to point out about this guy, he claims to have the same source as RV but RV and him are not connected. He did not support RV's endorsement. Gelman also advised his samplers *though i did not read up on that forum post as i was gone for a day or two) that they should not take more than 150mg or so. That they would start to feel bad? Why did he know so much about it when RV knew nothing of the sort, i know because Ive had discussions with RV about dosing and what not. Nothing to specific though. This leads me to believe that Gelman is closer to the source than we think, but fuck its all speculation.
*AFTER READING THIS LOOK INTO THE TEST RESULTS OF 5ABP 6ABP
this is not my finding but one brought to my attention by a fellow member. but if it brings negative karma, i dont mind taking a hit especially if it means that it will eventually take down a domestic scam.
The tests for said chemicals are almost identical to MDMA, except for a few things. see if you find the same things i did. One is blatant and the same every time. the other is inconsistent and will change from test to test, but both lead me to believe that this PURPLE mdma is nothing but Mdxx traces coated with rc bull shit.
Did you reagent test what you got from him. Also people can have the the same connects and not know about each other.
My experience with 5 and 6 apb is they both have alot of body load unlike MDMA also when i reagent tested them they do react to a purplish color but still not the same as some goood Mdma that will go almost instantly to black with Mecke and marquis. How did you feel on the Gelman stuff ?
the tests were not mine, i got them from someone else who tested them for me. and like i said i had a few members chime in and tell me the same findings. On gelmans stuff, and everybody who has taken some of the batch from RV has said the same thing, they feel like they might roll, but they just want more. And it makes them want to peak but if you take more you end up feel like shit.
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oh Ive had that shit before, if you keep taking more your gonna wanna kill RV, your gonna feel the worst in your life ever. You will see spots everywhere you turn your head and you will not be able to get out of bed for 3 days with out puking.
Have Fun!
please elaborate. I would love to have more feedback on this MDMA, or w.e it is.
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If Dominatrix is mixing her MDMA/APB batches she deserves an e-slap. Can you post reagent pictures, and can anyone else attest to this? Fuck all this shadyness why can't we just all share the pure love?
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A whole lot of empty evidence and conjecture here ..
"we all know its causing problems" .... "EVERYBODY who likes moon rocks hates this stuff lol" "the tests werent done my me" ...
You know moonrocks are no sign of purity whatsoever right ? Its fused together with heat ... it could be dogshit MDMA and still be crystallized.
I am these 2 guys source ... and they dont know eachother, I can assure you of that. I have a half dozen customers and none of them know eachother either.
I can also assure you this isnt APB 5 or 6 or whatever ... I can assure you its not a 50/50 meth cut ... that product I did sell to a some people that came on here and once I was informed of the results ceased sales of it immediately and changed to this product.
Mindman has issues with Gelman so Mindman comes on here with a bunch of phony accusations and bullshit to stir the pot. Pretty wild that all these people saw fit to confide their distaste of this MDMA in YOU and not post on a review thread themselves hey.
If it turns out either one of these guys is taking my product and mixing it with something ... I will no longer vend to them and their selling days on here would be over. Cant see it happening, the markup is 5-6X what they are paying from me.
EDIT - I just read that you posted on Dominatrix's thread this is PURE STANK ASS MDMA ... and seeing as Gelman and Dominatrix are selling IDENTICAL MDMA ... how can this be ? I have spoken with Gelman who is a stand up guy and who I have a relationship dating back much further than Dominatrix and he assures me he doesnt touch it and I believe him. He is charging more, so if you ask me Dom would be the one who should be suspected of cutting his shit if anyone lol.
I have reason to believe Dominatrix is behind this slander campaign here .. this type of childish shit fits his MO to a T, no ?
Go home troll.
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I posted a reagent test on gelman's thread. Both mecke and marquis went strait to black.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=96fc9acf078ac4dafeb01ba4ff02651f.jpg
I was under the impression that an apb cut would turn brown first. Is this not true?
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A whole lot of empty evidence and conjecture here ..
"we all know its causing problems" .... "EVERYBODY who likes moon rocks hates this stuff lol" "the tests werent done my me" ...
You know moonrocks are no sign of purity whatsoever right ? Its fused together with heat ... it could be dogshit MDMA and still be crystallized.
I am these 2 guys source ... and they dont know eachother, I can assure you of that. I have a half dozen customers and none of them know eachother either.
I can also assure you this isnt APB 5 or 6 or whatever ... I can assure you its not a 50/50 meth cut ... that product I did sell to a some people that came on here and once I was informed of the results ceased sales of it immediately and changed to this product.
Mindman has issues with Gelman so Mindman comes on here with a bunch of phony accusations and bullshit to stir the pot. Pretty wild that all these people saw fit to confide their distaste of this MDMA in YOU and not post on a review thread themselves hey.
If it turns out either one of these guys is taking my product and mixing it with something ... I will no longer vend to them and their selling days on here would be over. Cant see it happening, the markup is 5-6X what they are paying from me.
EDIT - I just read that you posted on Dominatrix's thread this is PURE STANK ASS MDMA ... and seeing as Gelman and Dominatrix are selling IDENTICAL MDMA ... how can this be ? I have spoken with Gelman who is a stand up guy and who I have a relationship dating back much further than Dominatrix and he assures me he doesnt touch it and I believe him. He is charging more, so if you ask me Dom would be the one who should be suspected of cutting his shit if anyone lol.
I have reason to believe Dominatrix is behind this slander campaign here .. this type of childish shit fits his MO to a T, no ?
Go home troll.
Haha damn.
Well I placed a small order with RV just because I was curious about this mandy. I have seen some dark mdma in my time so this doesnt look too off to me.
I'm sure its fine. Some people here are just not used to seeing brown mdma and start calling it bunk. They change their minds after they try it and literally beg me for more.
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A whole lot of empty evidence and conjecture here ..
"we all know its causing problems" .... "EVERYBODY who likes moon rocks hates this stuff lol" "the tests werent done my me" ...
You know moonrocks are no sign of purity whatsoever right ? Its fused together with heat ... it could be dogshit MDMA and still be crystallized.
I am these 2 guys source ... and they dont know eachother, I can assure you of that. I have a half dozen customers and none of them know eachother either.
I can also assure you this isnt APB 5 or 6 or whatever ... I can assure you its not a 50/50 meth cut ... that product I did sell to a some people that came on here and once I was informed of the results ceased sales of it immediately and changed to this product.
Mindman has issues with Gelman so Mindman comes on here with a bunch of phony accusations and bullshit to stir the pot. Pretty wild that all these people saw fit to confide their distaste of this MDMA in YOU and not post on a review thread themselves hey.
If it turns out either one of these guys is taking my product and mixing it with something ... I will no longer vend to them and their selling days on here would be over. Cant see it happening, the markup is 5-6X what they are paying from me.
EDIT - I just read that you posted on Dominatrix's thread this is PURE STANK ASS MDMA ... and seeing as Gelman and Dominatrix are selling IDENTICAL MDMA ... how can this be ? I have spoken with Gelman who is a stand up guy and who I have a relationship dating back much further than Dominatrix and he assures me he doesnt touch it and I believe him. He is charging more, so if you ask me Dom would be the one who should be suspected of cutting his shit if anyone lol.
I have reason to believe Dominatrix is behind this slander campaign here .. this type of childish shit fits his MO to a T, no ?
Go home troll.
^^ This x 100. This is the slimy fucker that weasled my rightful sample away and proceeded to talk trash about it ever since. Not one lick of evidence to support his claims. First it was speed/meth. Now 5/6-APB. He also said he had a short roll and slept just fine. That doesn't really jive well with any of these fabricated "cuts" he won't shut the fuck up about.
EVERYONE else that received from Gelman LOVED his MDMA and some have backed it up with reagents like l1ly has.
He sent me a PM last week for no reason where he threw more accusations around about Gelman and his product and insisted that I keep it on the hush. Funny that his review was written like a 15 yo halfwit and barely readable but his PM was spot-on proper.
Probably another vendor mad because he can't get away with price robbery anymore with these new domest bulk players around.
Fuck this guy and all his other shill accounts.
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I am not a vendor. Most of what I have said has been brought to my attention by other members. I am just asking questions people. Not trying to troll. I said that RV's MDMA was dank stuff because of the tests that i had seen. Honestly I didnt catch any of these small details. But when I did I was pissed. Those two differences are enough to say something? Am I not right, even on the Eztest or dancsafe kits they say that the mdxx is limited to green-black fade. again, just another question.
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If Dominatrix is mixing her MDMA/APB batches she deserves an e-slap. Can you post reagent pictures, and can anyone else attest to this? Fuck all this shadyness why can't we just all share the pure love?
thank you for at least looking into this. not just bashing me or saying that i am a vendor. No just another legit buyer, wanting legit product that doest shroud itself in this said shadyness.
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I am not a vendor. Most of what I have said has been brought to my attention by other members.
Ah yes, other members. Your many 1 post throwaway accounts you mean?
Prove us otherwise. I challenge you. Right here. You owe that at least.
Every reviewer reported glowing experiences except for you. it was deliberate and intentional. You're transparent as fuck man.
You have ZERO credibility. GTFO.
note: see below poster "spacecase#2" the one post wonder, for an example of just one of many of his throwaway accounts.
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It wouldn't surprise me one bit if that mdma is another type of 50/50 franken mix that fredflintstone is know for producing. All them people vouching for that vendor g w/e and random people kept talking about how fire it was before it was even sent out.
Who's the one person around here we know likes to hype a product that's not what it is. Dom...we all know that. Dom has been getting shit since he got here and now him and his little buddies are ripping you off. That group of people attracts all this negative attention for a reason . You don't see this shit with ANY other legit vendors.
I would like to see someone in netherlands get this to a lab so we can see what's really in this "mdma"
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I am not a vendor. Most of what I have said has been brought to my attention by other members.
Ah yes, other members. Your many 1 post throwaway accounts you mean?
Prove us otherwise. I challenge you. Right here. You owe that at least.
Every reviewer reported glowing experiences except for you. it was deliberate and intentional. You're transparent as fuck man.
You have ZERO credibility. GTFO.
note: see below poster "spacecase#2" the one post wonder, for an example of just one of many of his throwaway accounts.
so i have no credibility accept the tests fucking happened, they are concrete fact that points to oddities.
and if it was a throw away account why would i go through so much fucking trouble to have them both online at the same time.
i remain solid in what i say, keep it coming, ill tear it down. Ill keep it up until some one answers my questions.
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1. Mindman I dont understand why people would just msg you confiding their displeasure in a product you have nothing to do with when they could post it on a review thread. You distance yourself from any actual accusations, thats slimy. Just stand up and say what YOU know.
2. Spacecase ... I didnt produce the meth/mdma mix. While waiting for the dark brown to be ready ( which I do have a hand in producing ) I made a purchase of the light brown sand having been under the impression it was similar to past sand batches I had bought. When I found out it was cut with meth, I stopped selling it and disposed of it. Customers who bought it directly from me where also given discounts / amends on their next orders. Also .. its my understanding from what I am reading that Mindman isnt accusing Dom of having bad product, just Gelman ... which cant be true considering they sell the same thing. Wouldnt you agree ?
3. People said the dark brown was good before it was sold because it has been being sold in private forums for months and months. Silk Road was not the unveiling point for it.
It has been tested
Meth mix - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2488
Dark Brown - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489
Now if the accusations are that Gelman is modifying the stuff after receipt, please. The markup is already sky high. No need .. and he would kill his biz off doing small orders mixed with apb or whatever instead of just working legit and pumping SR full of mdma at a huge profit.
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I'm having a hard time believing any of these accusations are true by the simple fact that not a single user on RainbowVomit's vendor page (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/d816032e20) has stated any ill effects. I'm positive something would have surfaced by now.
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Yeah, I can agree to an extent but what I don't get is how you buy mdma at the quantity you are buying without getting some proper test done. You of all people should have been able to tell that shit was cut the second you tested it with reagents. I have a hard time believing you were unaware of it but w/e that's the past.
The thing is on SR your only rep here is supplying vendors with cut product so you should expect some shit if you're gonna post around here. or should i say the people selling your products should expect some shit.
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@Mindman - what oddities in testing ? Everyone's tests say what they should.
You do lose credibility when you post on Gelmans thread that you are having a good roll ... but then come back the next day and say you ate 175MG ( !!! ) and it was jagged. I would say so lol.
Or you state on Dom's thread this is "PURE STANK ASS MDMA" ... but now are bringing up all these accusations against Gelman's product which is the same.
Its just imaginary bullshit. People arent messaging YOU saying they have issues, your messaging THEM. Your like bi-polar or something bud.
@AnimusVox - I dont think he is accusing Dom's of being no good, just Gelman.
@spacecase - you trust the people you work with ... you trust smell and the reagent tests I had which showed no issue until a full GC/MS workup was done. Its not foolproof, and it happens.
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I understand that, but realizing that they are both coming from the same source (yourself), it should be a frame of reference on quality for anyone that does a bit of research on these forums.
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the tests, and observations about the tests are not mine. i just expressed displeasure in the product, and so have a lot of people that have tried the MDMA provided to me. No one has felt incredibly bad just yet, but i want to make sure in advance. does anybody know highest dose done? Many know that grams of mandy/molly have and will be done in a night, but if that same dose was carried out with a cut product, the results could be fatal. maybe
i am talking about BOTH vendors product as i know they are the same, i said that in my review to RV as well you jack ass. I said i like the vendor, dom hase been very helpful. BUT i said i dont like the product. AND YOU FUCK i said i started to roll, or at least i thought i did. that was posted before any form of update. i dosed 175 because im used to good dutch beans containing 200mg + and when i took the 100mg said dose at first and waited the overly high come up (common of bull shit RCs) and just felt the need for more because i knew i wasnt going to peak, i took a booster. that sent me close to the edge but then i felt bad and one edge.
LEAR TO READ SHIT IN ORDER JACK ASS. actually pick out what i say and try to keep up.
as for the test differences i have said them many times, meck test should go green to black, not to straight black, and a repeated simons test showed different results EVERY time, from a solid blue to a ring of blue or small spots of blue. sounds like a cut reaction to me. just enough to pass the normal test. any more quetions that ive already answered?? why dont you start answering the ones ive asked
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Mindman, brilliant work bud. You should work for Fox News or something ... total scare tactic, open ended statements.
"The results could be fatal. maybe" - HAHAHAHAHAHA
"the tests, and observations about the tests are not mine." - of course, why test yourself. just let the voices in your head tell you what you want to hear.
"so have alot of people" - unnamed of course and none of whom have posted on either review thread lol
You dont back up anything you say, you just spew nonsense then when your confronted say "no, not me, IIIIII didnt say it, did IIIIIII ?"
Definition goof.
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I can't help myself...
http://i.imgur.com/xblF4.gif
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1. Mindman I dont understand why people would just msg you confiding their displeasure in a product you have nothing to do with when they could post it on a review thread. You distance yourself from any actual accusations, thats slimy. Just stand up and say what YOU know.
2. Spacecase ... I didnt produce the meth/mdma mix. While waiting for the dark brown to be ready ( which I do have a hand in producing ) I made a purchase of the light brown sand having been under the impression it was similar to past sand batches I had bought. When I found out it was cut with meth, I stopped selling it and disposed of it. Customers who bought it directly from me where also given discounts / amends on their next orders. Also .. its my understanding from what I am reading that Mindman isnt accusing Dom of having bad product, just Gelman ... which cant be true considering they sell the same thing. Wouldnt you agree ?
3. People said the dark brown was good before it was sold because it has been being sold in private forums for months and months. Silk Road was not the unveiling point for it.
It has been tested
Meth mix - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2488
Dark Brown - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489
Now if the accusations are that Gelman is modifying the stuff after receipt, please. The markup is already sky high. No need .. and he would kill his biz off doing small orders mixed with apb or whatever instead of just working legit and pumping SR full of mdma at a huge profit.
THIS SHIT IS FROM BACK IN MAY I DOUBT THEY WILL BE SAME EXACT BATCHES It has been 3 Fucking months now. I houghly doubt its the same damn batch.
Meth mix - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2488
Dark Brown - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489
Also the picture of the brown sandy MDMA on ecstasy data doesn't even look like the ones we got now. That one is more drier looking and it seem like it crushes into a fine powder. Ours is more wet/clumpy and not as fine as the one pictured. It won't even crush into fine powder it and it stays very clumpy.
I also find it weird that marceline went onto = Gelman thread vouching that his shit is the best she ever had when a couple weeks ago she was selling a similar product everyone hated it. Dom has denises that her product and marceline producst is not the same. But it seems fishy all of them are on the same threads.
Dosage recommendations, everyone kepf saying they can feel it with so much little. With gelmans recommend of 80-125 (roll face). To be honest that seems like a relatively low dosage for mdma. 125mg will barely get me a tingle. That is of course this isn't MDMA afterall and maybe apb mix of some sort because their dosages are infact around 100 give or take.
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I posted a reagent test on gelman's thread. Both mecke and marquis went strait to black.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=96fc9acf078ac4dafeb01ba4ff02651f.jpg
I was under the impression that an apb cut would turn brown first. Is this not true?
Not always I think it depends on the source of the apb. Here is one report I found while researching
"the most recent batch tested a dark burgundy/black. i've seen so many different reactions for 6-apb or what is being represented as that, i don't know what to think."
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1. Mindman I dont understand why people would just msg you confiding their displeasure in a product you have nothing to do with when they could post it on a review thread. You distance yourself from any actual accusations, thats slimy. Just stand up and say what YOU know.
2. Spacecase ... I didnt produce the meth/mdma mix. While waiting for the dark brown to be ready ( which I do have a hand in producing ) I made a purchase of the light brown sand having been under the impression it was similar to past sand batches I had bought. When I found out it was cut with meth, I stopped selling it and disposed of it. Customers who bought it directly from me where also given discounts / amends on their next orders. Also .. its my understanding from what I am reading that Mindman isnt accusing Dom of having bad product, just Gelman ... which cant be true considering they sell the same thing. Wouldnt you agree ?
3. People said the dark brown was good before it was sold because it has been being sold in private forums for months and months. Silk Road was not the unveiling point for it.
It has been tested
Meth mix - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2488
Dark Brown - http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489
Now if the accusations are that Gelman is modifying the stuff after receipt, please. The markup is already sky high. No need .. and he would kill his biz off doing small orders mixed with apb or whatever instead of just working legit and pumping SR full of mdma at a huge profit.
That test result is back in May which is three months ago. I houghly doubt they are even teh same batch. They don't even look like what Gelman and Dom been sending out. The ones on Edata looks fine and crystallize and dry. The ones gelman and Dom sent out are highly sticky and doesn't have the same texture.
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Batches stay the same when I am making them. I dont buy the dark brown, we make it.
Mindman = ign0ramus ... I would bet my life on it.
But whatever ... this isnt my fight even, I just dont like working to make the shit and have a child come on here and spread bullshit lies. Say what you want ... SR battles cant be won. People just setup a half dozen accounts and go mental.
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Definetly a amber/brownish color why does everyone keep calling it purple? Passed all my reagents, I don't have pictures, but will be taking some tonight. I'll post a bit about it afterwards, Ill know if its cut with anything. Doubt it reactions came through very strong. I'm not really on anyones tip here but I've had two experiences with RV and both have been very good. :)
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I posted a reagent test on gelman's thread. Both mecke and marquis went strait to black.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=96fc9acf078ac4dafeb01ba4ff02651f.jpg
I was under the impression that an apb cut would turn brown first. Is this not true?
I have tested both 5 and 6 apb and the results are a purpleish to brown type reaction unlike MDMA .
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WTF why would we hide under two different names. WTF is that going to accomplishment. If something seems fishy to me than I'm going to point it out. I have alot invested in this shit becuase she guaranteed 84percent lab tested. Yet I have not to seen any test results. And don't even bring up that ecstasydata link which is back in May 2013 and doesn't even look similar to what we have now.
As for mecke reagent I tested Dom and another Dutch supplier to see the difference.
Doms -Mecke straight to black no green , Dutch supplier green/black
Simons Reagent on Dom first attempt I only got a tinge of blue on the outside. The Ductch exploded with color, So I tried numerous more times the with the simons again on Doms sample. Most of the time it was very faint and not full on blue like the Dutch stuff.
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Come up times on regular MDMA i can usually feel it tingle in about 1/2 and roll face in another hour. But alot of these people are having delayed reactions
Ralph
"Around 12:30 noon I decided to drop about 100 mgs give or take .05 because I had no good scales and I made up 10 piles from my gram. About an hour later I began to feel some much needed energy that helped me keep going the rest of the day. Around 2:30 or 3 o'clock I was rolling like a mother fucker and even passed on a j. "
2 hours later he was finally rolling hard.
lucas83
"So we all eat them around 10pm with orange juice and head out to show. We haven't eaten anything since breakfast. We arrive around 10:30 get ourselves settled, not really feeling anything at this point. 15 minutes later I'm getting that butterfly feeling in stomach can't really sit still so I have to get up. At this point I join my friends and I can't really stop smiling or dancing, typical MDMA feelings. Couldn't keep my eyes open and started clenching my jaw a little bit, music just sounded awesome. About 1 I hit my peak and decided to reload with a 50mg cap along with another friend."
Took at 10 and doesnt peak till 1.
also mindman who also had a long come up I think he said 1.25 hr and he didnt feel anything so he redosed.
This also make me believe there i some kind of apb in the mixture as there peak is around 2-3 hours in.
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Well you guys are posting in a very similar manner... spelling punctuation, style, etc.. Your grammar is nearly identical.
And question: if you've supposedly ran all these tests, why haven't you posted a single picture containing your results? Your word is not credible. Pictures are. Also, if you do post, be sure to include 'Gelman' written on paper. We wouldn't want you collecting a random picture off the internet now.
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yeah no doubt animusvox ... when one stops posting, suddenly the other begins with the exact same BS. they both have very similar mistakes in their grammar.
maybe im confused but I didnt think "they" ran the tests, they were just contacted by "many" others who did ... because they are an authority on MDMA I guess ... not sure why people got ahold of them when there is very clearly defined review threads for these people to bring their issues too.
I think if you read Ralph and Lucas' reviews, they state they are rolling hard by 3 hours in, but they were clearly doing other things at the time. they werent staring at a clock waiting for the exact moment their rolls began ... its just when they noticed they were rolling.
I dunno ... say what you guys wants I guess ... but if you have "so much invested in this" ignoramus then just get $120 together and send your sample into ecstasydata.org, they will tell you EXACTLY what it is if you doubt it/
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A whole lot of empty evidence and conjecture here ..
"we all know its causing problems" .... "EVERYBODY who likes moon rocks hates this stuff lol" "the tests werent done my me" ...
You know moonrocks are no sign of purity whatsoever right ? Its fused together with heat ... it could be dogshit MDMA and still be crystallized.
I am these 2 guys source ... and they dont know eachother, I can assure you of that. I have a half dozen customers and none of them know eachother either.
I can also assure you this isnt APB 5 or 6 or whatever ... I can assure you its not a 50/50 meth cut ... that product I did sell to a some people that came on here and once I was informed of the results ceased sales of it immediately and changed to this product.
Mindman has issues with Gelman so Mindman comes on here with a bunch of phony accusations and bullshit to stir the pot. Pretty wild that all these people saw fit to confide their distaste of this MDMA in YOU and not post on a review thread themselves hey.
If it turns out either one of these guys is taking my product and mixing it with something ... I will no longer vend to them and their selling days on here would be over. Cant see it happening, the markup is 5-6X what they are paying from me.
EDIT - I just read that you posted on Dominatrix's thread this is PURE STANK ASS MDMA ... and seeing as Gelman and Dominatrix are selling IDENTICAL MDMA ... how can this be ? I have spoken with Gelman who is a stand up guy and who I have a relationship dating back much further than Dominatrix and he assures me he doesnt touch it and I believe him. He is charging more, so if you ask me Dom would be the one who should be suspected of cutting his shit if anyone lol.
I have reason to believe Dominatrix is behind this slander campaign here .. this type of childish shit fits his MO to a T, no ?
Go home troll.
From the mouth of the supplier YOU CAN'T GET ANYMORE HONEST THEN THAT !
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You guys need to chill out and realise this is a typical LE Forum technique used to rile up as many people as possible trying get them to reveal more than they should and put doubts in the mind of legitimate users. You Fredfilnstone are falling for it left right and center. If I were you I would stop revealing stuff that could incriminate yourself.
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yeah no doubt animusvox ... when one stops posting, suddenly the other begins with the exact same BS. they both have very similar mistakes in their grammar.
maybe im confused but I didnt think "they" ran the tests, they were just contacted by "many" others who did ... because they are an authority on MDMA I guess ... not sure why people got ahold of them when there is very clearly defined review threads for these people to bring their issues too.
I think if you read Ralph and Lucas' reviews, they state they are rolling hard by 3 hours in, but they were clearly doing other things at the time. they werent staring at a clock waiting for the exact moment their rolls began ... its just when they noticed they were rolling.
I dunno ... say what you guys wants I guess ... but if you have "so much invested in this" ignoramus then just get $120 together and send your sample into ecstasydata.org, they will tell you EXACTLY what it is if you doubt it/
I have tested this shit so many time not wanting it to be fake I get the same motherfucking exact results as IIkin whatever her name was. Even she says Mecke was strange because it went straight to black not the usual green/black. Why would the fuck I want to lie about testing. I'm not out trying to ruin anybodys reputation I just want some answers. Why should I pay 120 when Dom has clearly stated her source from Canada has already had it check out. She can she just post that up instead of bringing up old ecstasydata.org lab results.
DOSAGES
I have a whole fuking oz of this shit you think I wanted my results to come back no good fuck no. I tested and tested and tested many times and side by side with some of my other batches.
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Yeah, I had it checked out ... on edata in May. Which I posted lol.
Dom changed sources you know ... the stuff you got the first go around may not be my stuff.
When she first came around boasting, she got an order and sold that. Then she changed to me recently.
I guess if your invested already for an ounce, nut up and pay the $120 more and know exactly what it is. Then you can come on here with those results and CRUSH us all. Its that simple. If it comes back as anything other than MDMA ... Ill throw you the $120 testing fee MYSELF.
Hollykins also says its the best MDMA she has ever done, so dont try and drag her into this on your side. There go those voices in your head again Mindman
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How much you want to be put your money where your mouth is. I don't even know who this
Batches stay the same when I am making them. I dont buy the dark brown, we make it.
Mindman = ign0ramus ... I would bet my life on it.
But whatever ... this isnt my fight even, I just dont like working to make the shit and have a child come on here and spread bullshit lies. Say what you want ... SR battles cant be won. People just setup a half dozen accounts and go mental.
mindman.
AGAIN Why would I have two SN's and only dipshits to scared to say thing under their name would make two accts. How much you want to wager on that bet. 5k? 10k? Your life? Thats fine with me.
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Besides the fact you ignored my question, if you have a whole ounce and ordered from RainbowVomit, where's the negative review on SilkRoad?
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Batches stay the same when I am making them. I dont buy the dark brown, we make it.
Mindman = ign0ramus ... I would bet my life on it.
But whatever ... this isnt my fight even, I just dont like working to make the shit and have a child come on here and spread bullshit lies. Say what you want ... SR battles cant be won. People just setup a half dozen accounts and go mental.
I already told you we are not the same damn people I dont even knew he was until i was researching other disgruntled purchasers.
How much you want to bet on that 5k, 10k, 20k this will be the easist money I won. Your life would be fine also.
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Well you guys are posting in a very similar manner... grammar, punctuation, style, etc..
And question: if you've supposedly ran all these tests, why haven't you posted a single picture containing your results? Your word is not credible. Pictures are. Also, if you do post, be sure to include 'Gelman' written on paper. We wouldn't want you collecting a random picture off the internet now.
Why the fuck woud I lie about this shit I have nothing to gain from it I already have the produtct. I have a fucking OZ already. I wish my tests turn out positive because I was overexcited because Dom's last batch of Dutch sounded spectacular. So when the new listing of MDMA came up she puts up that this batch is far superior than the last batch of Dutch she had. I also ask her how can she guarantee 84% and she said it was labtested so where are the papers. Always referring to the the outdated one on ecstasydata.org back in May.
Gelman description
This mdma clearly is superior to its Dutch "Moon Rock" counterparts
Rainbow
84% PURE PURPLE MDMA :D!!!
Everyone that has tried this batch of my M has said it's far superior to the last batch of White Dutch Moon Rocks I had.
OMG they are the same people they use same grammar and everything OMGOSH
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no way to prove you and him arent the same, but i mean cmon we all see it.
ill bet 10K on that brown you arent holding being MDMA and only MDMA ... but your Fisher Price ass dont got that kind of bank, so fuck that too I guess.
good point animusvox, there are no negative reviews on SR, that should finish it.
your so unhappy, you and your "disgruntled customers" can do leave reviews for these guys on SR.
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Besides the fact you ignored my question, if you have a whole ounce and ordered from RainbowVomit, where's the negative review on SilkRoad?
Obvious troll is obvious.
Are you serious? I don't say shit unless I mean it WHAT THE FUCK DO I GET FROM LYING ABOUT ANYTHING! Are you that fucking ignorant. Here is my damn feedback
"Fast shipping. Product test okay with Marq, Off with Mecke, Simons had a little trouble. Will update on quality it is sketchy. Rainbow provides excellent customer service!" You happy now.
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Are you serious? I don't say shit unless I mean it WHAT THE FUCK DO I GET FROM LYING ABOUT ANYTHING! Are you that fucking ignorant. Here is my damn feedback
"Fast shipping. Product test okay with Marq, Off with Mecke, Simons had a little trouble. Will update on quality it is sketchy. Rainbow provides excellent customer service!" You happy now.
http://i.qkme.me/3oegxh.jpg
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no way to prove you and him arent the same, but i mean cmon we all see it.
ill bet 10K on that brown you arent holding being MDMA and only MDMA ... but your Fisher Price ass dont got that kind of bank, so fuck that too I guess.
good point animusvox, there are no negative reviews on SR, that should finish it.
your so unhappy, you and your "disgruntled customers" can do leave reviews for these guys on SR.
Pussy backing out on original bet. How hard can it be to prove me and him are not one in the same. You are to chicken shit anyway cause you know I'm fucking right you just running you damn mouth behind the computer. All talk no money to back it up. Stop being such a puss and backing out of original bet.
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So just how exactly have you avoided natural selection so long?
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Im fine with the original bet ... but you cant prove a negative.
How do you propose we figure out if you and Mindman are two different people ?
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Holy shit this is an entertaining thread, you could make good TV from this!
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How about I set up a skype call and we all have a big face to face meeting
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Im fine with the original bet ... but you cant prove a negative.
How do you propose we figure out if you and Mindman are two different people ?
Well they both ordered from RV ... you can ask her if they both have a recent order.
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Are you serious? I don't say shit unless I mean it WHAT THE FUCK DO I GET FROM LYING ABOUT ANYTHING! Are you that fucking ignorant. Here is my damn feedback
"Fast shipping. Product test okay with Marq, Off with Mecke, Simons had a little trouble. Will update on quality it is sketchy. Rainbow provides excellent customer service!" You happy now.
http://i.qkme.me/3oegxh.jpg
This is shit is beyond hilarious with all due respect to both parties. Nicely played, though lmao. You made me go through the trouble of browsing clearnet comfortably to post that.
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Yeah, I had it checked out ... on edata in May. Which I posted lol.
Dom changed sources you know ... the stuff you got the first go around may not be my stuff.
When she first came around boasting, she got an order and sold that. Then she changed to me recently.
I guess if your invested already for an ounce, nut up and pay the $120 more and know exactly what it is. Then you can come on here with those results and CRUSH us all. Its that simple. If it comes back as anything other than MDMA ... Ill throw you the $120 testing fee MYSELF.
Hollykins also says its the best MDMA she has ever done, so dont try and drag her into this on your side. There go those voices in your head again Mindman
Again I believe Hollykins was talking about the report on EDATA which is 3 FUCKING MONTHS OLD can you guys STOP REFERRING THAT SHIT LIKE IT WAS just yesterday. I doubt its the same fucking batch.
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I'm saying it is, and I know ... if you dont believe me, so be it. We didnt just decide to start dumping drums of APB into the batches in the last month.
If you want a new test, go get one. And like I say I will refund your testing price plus whatever ammount you want in cash if it is not MDMA.
Your call. I'm done arguing.
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Im fine with the original bet ... but you cant prove a negative.
How do you propose we figure out if you and Mindman are two different people ?
Well they both ordered from RV ... you can ask her if they both have a recent order.
Great idea, Thanks bud. We only came on here to point out suspicious things about gelman products and dom products and give the community a warning. Isn't this what harm reduction is about. We never accused anyone of doing anything just brought up some valid points that could be investigated further. But you guys are such damn dick riders and blame us for lying about everything when he absolutely nothing to gain. Crazy!
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Aaaannnnnnnnyyyyyyywwwwaaaayyyyyy...... How bout some reviews other than the couple on the last FOUR pages? Please?? :-D
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But this is much more fun ;)
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the only "PURPLE" mdma i have EVER had over my 15 + years of doing it was SUPER clear.. LIKE meth crystals.. SHARP SHARDS.. with a VERY VERY slight tinge of a purple sheen.. that shit u needed like 70mg and u were FLOORED.. blew my mind.. this stuff they are calling purple i call brown.. i HAVE SADLY NOT tried but want to.. RV seems like a good vendor and worthy of her INSANELY cheap USA pricing!
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Yeah, its not purple.
Dom said that himself I think .. he just thinks the darker bits look a bit purple.
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why do people insist on telling me im a fake account? ing0 is the guy who PM'd me. but i guess this is a losing fight. and honestly i dont care. just thought some woul like to find out what was up, and way nobody is going to bring in this shit again because it has caused so many problems.
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They are a bunch of friends vouching for each other thats why. We are just asking questions about the product and why some of our test results and observations seem weird. These guys get all on the offensive. Sounds like they are trying to hide something.
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Yeah, I had it checked out ... on edata in May. Which I posted lol.
Dom changed sources you know ... the stuff you got the first go around may not be my stuff.
When she first came around boasting, she got an order and sold that. Then she changed to me recently.
I guess if your invested already for an ounce, nut up and pay the $120 more and know exactly what it is. Then you can come on here with those results and CRUSH us all. Its that simple. If it comes back as anything other than MDMA ... Ill throw you the $120 testing fee MYSELF.
Hollykins also says its the best MDMA she has ever done, so dont try and drag her into this on your side. There go those voices in your head again Mindman
LOL IF you are indeed the supposedly mastermind of all this you should have a shitload money what is a measely $120 nothing to you. So you are telling me this batch is exactly the same as the one on EDATA which was produce 3 months ago and you guys had that much stockpiled until now? http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489 that shit does not even look like what we got now. Our is more wet and larger size clumps. That shit wont even break down into a fine powder more like mush.
All we came here is for anwers but obviously a bunch of you got butthurt. Accuse us of lying about the stupidest shit like reagent testing and me and megamind being the same guy I still want my 5k. (wtf would we get out of lying about reagent testing) I tested my shit like 3 times over just to be sure. We aren't here to bash anyone but damn you guys take it personal chill the fuck out.
Also fredflinstone if this is just regular MDMA why are a bunch of people having longer periods of come up usually taking 2-3 hours to hit peak.
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Just jumping back in this to say all who doubt are fucking morons.
Why would both ign0 and i lie about being the same person? I posted a purchase, half oz. Thats what i got stuck with.
Im disgruntled because this is bullshit.
A few other things, RV, why does their vendor page say always use PGP, but then i get a PM from rv stating the following:
"Rainbow Vomit(97) hey,
Noticed you got a sample from gman, now please for my sake don't repeat anything I'm saying to anyone I don't need any of my connections to be pissed off at me, but did it look cut at all? Cause I'm about 115lbs and just took 90mg with a mg scale of my batch and I'm rolling very hard. I'm a girl and little though. My bf is coming over later and he's 150lb I'm going to give him 125 and see what happens. 5 days read
delete"
Thats from the top, this vendor has tons of this shit and they hadnt even fucking tried it, I said i was going to keep this confident but RV and neglected my questions about this batch. another reason i believe RV knows they got scammed.
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Its great when large scale supplier sell out products that they havent even tried, and before hand, market the shit out of them as the purest around, then when confronted hide and snap back at those who question. Today i sent an encrypted PM to RV, and in return got a over the top message saying i must be high on crack if i dont trust this mdma. RV know this product and know whats in it. then why did you contact me for dose advice? seems like you bought from a different source without seeing the product, then sold and when you got yours so did everybody else, but youd been talkin shit since the start so you cant stop now, gotta keep the customer happy.
this is what will really keep us happy: explain all the bullshit flaws with this product? nobody on this thread has answered them, they just keep telling me "its pure" all the reviews are good, but not yours" just look at the tests, its pure" lmao the tests
why are all of you so redundant? just quit avoiding what we bring forward.
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Lol, this is some bullllshit I rolled my ass off last night on the brown/purple stuff. Love euphoria eye wiggles everything. Did a full trip report in Rainbow Vomit / Official Review Thread:
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god damn, dom is one bad bitch.
not even a word from her this time and her thread explodes in 5 page colon crucifixion
dom is a master troll, no doubt
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Eye wiggles? thats the first ive ever heard of that, at least on this batch.
and yeah dom jumped at me last night through PM saying that i was trying to tear down the RV business. all i asked was for a public comment about the test results and such, i have just been ignored.
*if this is so good, why do its vendors hide behind half ass trip reports? who gives a fuck if you felt like you were rolling, i want to be actually rolling on MDMA.
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^What kinda tolerance you got there sport? I roll maybe 3-4 times a year tops so when I do get to party I really feel it. Yes this is MDMA I've had the moonrocks and this is very comparable. so what its a little ugly, man does it get he job done just woke up after sleeping like a baby, Took about .230 over the night and had a blast. Experienced roller here also not some punk kid that would get tricked into methylone or pipes or 6apb. Marquis reagent turned black with bubbles and smoke! Mecke turned colors before it hit the plate. I have nothing to gain by sitting here and arguing with someone over the internet, but I know what I felt and I know what I'm doing.
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1. $120 isnt shit your right and thats why I had the tests done already. If I send in another sample what are you gonna say ? Oh I must have sent pure sample and just sell doctored items ? No. Thats why I say YOU send the sample in. Also, if this is contaminated why are you trying to sell it in another thread lol. Nice work bud.
2. Your reagent tests are bogus unless you post pics of them.
You got no traction here. Your results are NOTHING like the other 40 reviews on SR and here. So please.
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Its great when large scale supplier sell out products that they havent even tried, and before hand, market the shit out of them as the purest around, then when confronted hide and snap back at those who question. Today i sent an encrypted PM to RV, and in return got a over the top message saying i must be high on crack if i dont trust this mdma. RV know this product and know whats in it. then why did you contact me for dose advice? seems like you bought from a different source without seeing the product, then sold and when you got yours so did everybody else, but youd been talkin shit since the start so you cant stop now, gotta keep the customer happy.
this is what will really keep us happy: explain all the bullshit flaws with this product? nobody on this thread has answered them, they just keep telling me "its pure" all the reviews are good, but not yours" just look at the tests, its pure" lmao the tests
why are all of you so redundant? just quit avoiding what we bring forward.
You sir are definitely on crack. shut the hell up.
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I tried to sell it because I dont want this stuff. I was trying to break even. You can fool dumb kids who will think they are rolling because they are shitfaced. Thats why rc's get passed off as Molly so frequently. But whatever im done with this miracle shit mdma that is supposedly 160% stronger than any Dutch because like Gelman said 125 of your stuff = 200 of dutch. Oh please. Like you said they melt it to make those crystals so it loses its potency. If this was the case why do all the other chemist even bother making crystals. Why go the extra step that would give them a weaker product. I wasnt even attacking the product or anyone on the site. I just wanted answers on why I had inconsistencies on my tests. You guys come in with no answers and accuse me of lying. You are always going to say the same shit that we are lying cause that's all you have. Keep selling your product as long as people are happy and buying it then so be it. That's all I have to say, this shit isn't going anywhere. I'm done.
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Moonrocks arent an indication of purity is what I said. Crystals are a different thing than moonrocks. MDMA can be made into crystals but they dont come out in those baseball sized shapes.
Like I say if your sure this isnt MDMA, send it in. Ill pay the $120 and an outrageous sum on top to you personally. You name the price.
Hell, even post the reagent pics
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I've been compiling a full trip report tonight that I'm not ready to write up yet (feeling too good). But I believe that I got some very pure and good stuff (from Gelman anyway). I mean ... THIS is LOVE.
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Question:
If I were to purchase this, then give it an acetone wash, would it come out with the purple color still? Or would that have been washed away by the acetone? Also, If the acetone in the wash DID in fact wash the purple color off, would it also decrease the weight of it? I don't mean to accuse the MDMA of being dirty, but I have to imagine that for it to retain that color, a finishing wash was not performed. Just a bit curious, the color is very interesting to me. Thanks guys.
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Question:
If I were to purchase this, then give it an acetone wash, would it come out with the purple color still? Or would that have been washed away by the acetone? Also, If the acetone in the wash DID in fact wash the purple color off, would it also decrease the weight of it? I don't mean to accuse the MDMA of being dirty, but I have to imagine that for it to retain that color, a finishing wash was not performed. Just a bit curious, the color is very interesting to me. Thanks guys.
It's actually not purple, it's brown, and that is due to (what I believe) the synthesis method, which is most likely safrole > MDP2P as opposed to starting with pure MDP2P. But yes, it would wash out into a lighter brown crystal and then a further wash would produce an even a lighter brown until you achieve that whiteness we most commonly associate MDMA with. Would you yield less? Most assuredly, but it's marginal at best and you are only washing away the visual clarity of the product, not the purity, as this product is raw.
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Alright, here is my trip report.
6:00 - dissolved 80mg into juice and drank
6:15 - energy building up, feeling like I want to get up and do something, decide to put on some music and dance a bit
6:20 - definite mood lift, music sounds awesome
6:30 - can't sit still, eyes starting to roll back slightly, starting to sweat, very aroused
6:40 - jaw tension, some eye wiggles, some muscle tension, steady euphoria settling into my muscles
6:52 - drank 1g ghb to ease the eye wiggles, feeling VERY loved up
8:00 - hubby starts rolling and moaning, I'm euphoric but not quite rolling
9:00 - 20mg bump to try to get me rolling but I knew it was likely too late by then
10:00 - Still feeling good, we decide to add some 2c-b since we never had the combo before and Shuglin highly recommends it. We took a full dose but likely only needed half. It was like the combo boosted both the 2c-b affects and the mdma. We tripped hard but it finally had me rolling during the moments I came back to reality. I spent the next few hours losing myself in hubby and don't really remember the specifics of that. We were both completely lost but in a good way.
12:00 - we notice that we were starting to fall asleep and decided to go to bed after our post-loading supplements. We were still tripping and it took us a few tries before we succeeded in getting up to postload, hehe.
7am - woke up after a very peaceful sleep, feeling physically great, wonderful afterglow
NOTES: 80mg wasn't enough to get me rolling but it was still my most therapeutic, loved up, and emotionally euphoric session with mdma. It felt speedy in the beginning but after about +1 hours, I setteled down and was consumed with feelings of love and wholeness. I'll be going for 100mg next time with a 30mg bump at 1.5 hours.
Gelman has my support, his stuff blew my mind, far superior to the premium dutch I've been spoiled on.
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I would like to see a trip report where no other drug was used in conjuction wth this MDMA. Also the Gelmans stuff looks more like sand or brown sugar where the RV stuff looks more wet or clumppy is there any 1 out there that has had both and compared the 2 ? Also how did the simmons test with this MDMA did it turn cobalt blue or was there no reaction ? Illkins posted test results , Mindman did your results look similar ?
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Anyone who thinks this is anything but MDMA is a moron. I'm not pointing anyone out anymore, the trolls don't need to be pointed out. Look at my reviews, look at my rating, look at the reagents, it's been lab tested it is for sure 100% on my momma MDMA.
Skeptical new people realize that I've sold alot of shit, and most everyone loves me accept for a couple trolls lurking this forum.
ALD was tested as inconclusive and will not be selling it.
If you think the MDMA was not MDMA then don't buy from me anymore I don't want/need to sell to morons. If you're just making rumours to hinder my business then have fun wasting your life away.
Cheers,
PS: Sold out.
PSS: I get mdma cheaper then I can get apb now. There is no need for apb, this batch was raw crystals and chunks not apb powder. Next batch will be dutch white crystal again.
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Anyone who thinks this is anything but MDMA is a moron. I'm not pointing anyone out anymore, the trolls don't need to be pointed out. Look at my reviews, look at my rating, look at the reagents, it's been lab tested it is for sure 100% on my momma MDMA.
Skeptical new people realize that I've sold alot of shit, and most everyone loves me accept for a couple trolls lurking this forum.
ALD was tested as inconclusive and will not be selling it.
If you think the MDMA was not MDMA then don't buy from me anymore I don't want/need to sell to morons. If you're just making rumours to hinder my business then have fun wasting your life away.
Cheers,
PS: Sold out.
PSS: I get mdma cheaper then I can get apb now. There is no need for apb, this batch was raw crystals and chunks not apb powder. Next batch will be dutch white crystal again.
^^Once again keeping shit real. 8)
BTW I tried this stuff this weekend. Let's just put this to rest...
It's great stuff. :o
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Dom: On your new batch I think I'm going to run a ms/gc assay and see what comes up as the secondary peaks...
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Anyone who thinks this is anything but MDMA is a moron. I'm not pointing anyone out anymore, the trolls don't need to be pointed out. Look at my reviews, look at my rating, look at the reagents, it's been lab tested it is for sure 100% on my momma MDMA.
Skeptical new people realize that I've sold alot of shit, and most everyone loves me accept for a couple trolls lurking this forum.
ALD was tested as inconclusive and will not be selling it.
If you think the MDMA was not MDMA then don't buy from me anymore I don't want/need to sell to morons. If you're just making rumours to hinder my business then have fun wasting your life away.
Cheers,
PS: Sold out.
PSS: I get mdma cheaper then I can get apb now. There is no need for apb, this batch was raw crystals and chunks not apb powder. Next batch will be dutch white crystal again.
5 APB is expensive and in truth more expensive then MDMA, so from a financial stand point it would make no sense to cut it with 5 APB. So i doubt she would cut it with 5apb because she would have to sell it for more to make a profit. All MDMA does not affect everybody the same , different batches seem to have different affects , while different people can have different affects with the same batch of mdma. I guess it's all chemistry in the end.
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Dom: On your new batch I think I'm going to run a ms/gc assay and see what comes up as the secondary peaks...
I'm going to remember this, please do this for meh :)