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Title: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: rmaxjax on June 13, 2012, 09:52 am
What drug(s) do you guys think are best to get the ole creative juices flowing? Obviously many artists have enhanced their mind with Acid, DMT etc
Myself personally I write music very well on Opiates, I've also aced a few last minute  with some adderall.
What are some other good choices to write, edit, or just be creative?
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: modest mouse on June 13, 2012, 10:22 am
lsd, opioids, and mary j. first the thc makes it crazier, then the opioids mellow the trip out slightly

i think acid is one of the best just cause of the new perspective it can provide
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: rmaxjax on June 13, 2012, 10:29 am
ahhh how could I leave out mary J
A couple Percocet and a few bowls of some loud and I'm a stoned savant
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: Meister on June 13, 2012, 01:13 pm
Writing when I'm stoned would be pure frustration as I forgot every thought mid sentence. I've written while tripping before, but it's highly disorganized but might be good for brainstorming, especially about feelings and emotion. To actually functionally write, I'd say adderall would be far and away the best bet.

Historically, many writers, artists and other creative persons used opium rather heavily so that could be another option.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: breathe on June 13, 2012, 04:31 pm
Many contemporary and historic famous people have spent their most productive periods very high on various opiates
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: gtgeorgz on June 13, 2012, 06:13 pm
Jenkem, naturally.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: TreyWingo104 on June 13, 2012, 07:02 pm
What drug(s) do you guys think are best to get the ole creative juices flowing? Obviously many artists have enhanced their mind with Acid, DMT etc
Myself personally I write music very well on Opiates, I've also gotten through a few with some adderall.
What are some other good choices to write, edit, or just be creative?

yeah opiates for music is a bangin solution...otherwise adderall for the win every day...

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Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: foxymeow on June 13, 2012, 07:04 pm
2c-d hands down. It is one of most potent cognitive enhancers I have ever used. I can write a paper like its nothing on it.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: ZA6wUw8a on June 13, 2012, 08:14 pm
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Obviously many artists have enhanced their mind with Acid, DMT etc Myself personally I write music very well on Opiates, I've also gotten through a few with some adderall.

Though most people would probably agree that certain drugs enhance what we call "creativity," I think the most effective creativity-enhancing instrument is the mind. If you consistently need more than that, you probably await a short-lived (and disappointing) career as a writer. You can suggest the (uncheckable) popular claim that most writers use some sort of substance to aid in their endeavors, but I firmly believe that substance or not, no writing comes easy, and is rather the result of 99% perspiration.

That said...
Oral methamphetamine is great, as is cannabis. With a lot of heavier psychedelics, it's too often that we write works which in the moment seem to be absolute genius, but upon returning to sobriety, we fail to see the magic in them again. Opiates and the pipe dreams they engender, should not be ignored either.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: weedsaves on June 13, 2012, 11:13 pm
There was a TED.com video about how depressants allow you to think more abstractly since your mind is relaxed and thinking freely, whereas stimulants actually hinder creativity and shift your brain into more of a focused, narrow way of thinking.

Think of Archimedes when he had his famous "Eureka!" moment. He was chillin in a bathtub, super relaxed. Richard Feynman used to write physics equations on napkins while getting drunk in strip clubs.

Basically, if you are looking for that creative "flash", I would say use alcohol or opiods to relax your mind and body and let your brain wander free. Save the stimulants for when you have a project in which you know exactly what you are doing and you just need focus.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: genghar on June 13, 2012, 11:35 pm
Ever since I began smoking weed, I've noticed I write more frequently when sober.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: TheAbsurd on June 13, 2012, 11:48 pm
I wrote a 10 page philosophy paper on acid. I've also written some amazing stuff on 25i-NBOMe which is pretty cheap to begin with.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: happyroller1234 on June 13, 2012, 11:52 pm
- Weed
- Low-dose 2C-P is supposed to be wonderful for writing
- Stimulants
- Absinthe and alcohol for some

Personally, MDPV enhanced my vocabulary, syntax, and ability to flow.  The only thing I miss about it.  :-\
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: ZA6wUw8a on June 14, 2012, 12:59 am
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There was a TED.com video about how depressants allow you to think more abstractly since your mind is relaxed and thinking freely, whereas stimulants actually hinder creativity and shift your brain into more of a focused, narrow way of thinking.

Think of Archimedes when he had his famous "Eureka!" moment. He was chillin in a bathtub, super relaxed. Richard Feynman used to write physics equations on napkins while getting drunk in strip clubs.

I actually know what video you're talking about. Though anecdotal stories of ancient men taking baths is not enough to make a conclusion. To demonstrate my point, look up "Erdos" and his drug of choice. This was a habit of many mathematicians. To each his own, I believe.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: davebowman on June 14, 2012, 03:41 am
I would recommend speed of any kind, pills, adderall, meth etc.

I find that I can get the most ideas out while I'm tweaked but they need to be edited in a sober state later. When I'm cracked out I find that I am sometimes more creative, certainly when it comes to drawing or painting.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: psychedelia on June 14, 2012, 03:53 am
LSD is good for coming up with new ideas, but I find you have to wait until the trip is over before you can start writing coherently.

Adderall is good for writing in general.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: weedsaves on June 14, 2012, 05:22 am
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There was a TED.com video about how depressants allow you to think more abstractly since your mind is relaxed and thinking freely, whereas stimulants actually hinder creativity and shift your brain into more of a focused, narrow way of thinking.

Think of Archimedes when he had his famous "Eureka!" moment. He was chillin in a bathtub, super relaxed. Richard Feynman used to write physics equations on napkins while getting drunk in strip clubs.

I actually know what video you're talking about. Though anecdotal stories of ancient men taking baths is not enough to make a conclusion. To demonstrate my point, look up "Erdos" and his drug of choice. This was a habit of many mathematicians. To each his own, I believe.

Erdos was more of a "problem solver" mathematician than a "theory developer", which reinforces my point. He also started taking amph somewhat late in life when most of his best work was behind him.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: Jenny8675309 on June 14, 2012, 05:26 am
have cup of cafe play
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: promethean on June 14, 2012, 07:13 am
I used to drink alcohol and then I'd just get sloppy. Stimulants is what does it for me now and some times weed. I some times get off track though when I'm flying way too high.  :P
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: rmaxjax on June 14, 2012, 07:42 am
- Weed
- Low-dose 2C-P is supposed to be wonderful for writing
- Stimulants
- Absinthe and alcohol for some

Personally, MDPV enhanced my vocabulary, syntax, and ability to flow.  The only thing I miss about it.  :-\

MDPV was a "bath salt" correct? if so Yes when I tried it My ability to ramble off sentences that flowed fit together and actually sounded good was amazing, almost like I was thinking so fast that It was unconscious or better yet straight from my subconscious

Also is it 2c-P or C-D you are talking about? What exactly is it a research chem? is it a stimulant or something else ?
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: happyroller1234 on June 14, 2012, 06:47 pm
- Weed
- Low-dose 2C-P is supposed to be wonderful for writing
- Stimulants
- Absinthe and alcohol for some

Personally, MDPV enhanced my vocabulary, syntax, and ability to flow.  The only thing I miss about it.  :-\

MDPV was a "bath salt" correct? if so Yes when I tried it My ability to ramble off sentences that flowed fit together and actually sounded good was amazing, almost like I was thinking so fast that It was unconscious or better yet straight from my subconscious

Also is it 2c-P or C-D you are talking about? What exactly is it a research chem? is it a stimulant or something else ?
Yes, you're correct.  MDPV was marketed as a bath salt.  I totally agree with the stream of consciousness writing.  It was amazing.  May have to hit up the doctor.  :P  I was specifically referring to 2C-P, although I've heard 2C-D works well as a cognitive enhancer.  I don't actually have any firsthand experience with 2C-P, but I was referring to a trip report on Erowid (CLEARNET): https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=87992

A research chemical is a drug that has yet to be thoroughly investigated and tested, I believe.  Most drugs, such as MDMA and LSD, were research chemicals at some time.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: gtgeorgz on June 14, 2012, 07:53 pm
- Weed
- Low-dose 2C-P is supposed to be wonderful for writing
- Stimulants
- Absinthe and alcohol for some

Personally, MDPV enhanced my vocabulary, syntax, and ability to flow.  The only thing I miss about it.  :-\

MDPV was a "bath salt" correct? if so Yes when I tried it My ability to ramble off sentences that flowed fit together and actually sounded good was amazing, almost like I was thinking so fast that It was unconscious or better yet straight from my subconscious

Also is it 2c-P or C-D you are talking about? What exactly is it a research chem? is it a stimulant or something else ?
Yes, you're correct.  MDPV was marketed as a bath salt.  I totally agree with the stream of consciousness writing.  It was amazing.  May have to hit up the doctor.  :P  I was specifically referring to 2C-P, although I've heard 2C-D works well as a cognitive enhancer.  I don't actually have any firsthand experience with 2C-P, but I was referring to a trip report on Erowid (CLEARNET): https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=87992

A research chemical is a drug that has yet to be thoroughly investigated and tested, I believe.  Most drugs, such as MDMA and LSD, were research chemicals at some time.

I know that MDMA is still considered an RC,  i don't know about LSD though. Just because no-one can be absolutely certain on the long term effects yet.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: breathe on June 15, 2012, 01:45 am
MDMA has had quite a lot of research done on its effects, I don't know if I'd categorise it with something like MXE
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on June 15, 2012, 02:31 am
Any cannabis or by products (hash, oil, jelly, crystal or whatever)

Speed, some way not but I found I could easily cope with speed though I liked to go out when high and write when coming down bit still wide awake. Not used speed for years.

Years ago a nasty accident on site saw me on morphine. I can get dihydro-codeine and been on that for years. It is useful for writing. I would imagine heroin would be good but I will never use heroin because why play with the one drug that really is a bitch! So - no H. Opium I would try. Seen some here. Seems to be the type we eat and not smoke. i want the latter.

Cocaine? No way! Its not that type of drug for me. But never tried because if you got to spend £80 before you can even write its bad news! Coke is sociable drug only for me.

Mushrooms, well, if you are coming down you got a few hours in which you can be creative. OK - what you write might be bullshit but you got to try and every diamond we find takes a few tons of dirt to sift through.

I also think alcohol needs to be bought to our attention. Can be great -especially when really drunk. If you can actually type or write then its all good stuff.

LSD - comedown only - same as mushrooms. A window is there. You need to be alone and have space.

Eating hash is or was one of my favorite things to do! After my evening meal - an hour later, at 6.00pm i would make a cup of coffee infused with hash. Usually 2 grams. Depended on the hash. Eat hash and you might be able to have a nice night in writing. Sit back and chill and let the creativity flow.

Tobacco. It helps. Sometimes in the daytime I might think 'lets be sober' and smoke a cigarette.

There is no 'best' drug for writing really. You got to want to do that sober and be able to write sober. After all most work in which writing skills are needed is hardly calling for too much creativity! You do not need cocaine to write some blurb. I write sober.

Stephen King wrote a few of his early books high on coke.

If I could do that on amphetamine I would do it - because if something helps the 'art' then an artiste will generally take that help. We got to be careful though. The road to artistic acclaim abnd reward is littered with the casualties.

Drugs help you experiment. they help you 'see things' in a different light. Each drug in a different way. But a writer draws from life experiences. He or she ought to immerse themselves in social situations. Meet people.

Drugs is just part of writing for some writers.

If for example I was asked to write up some lengthy advertising shit for some product or service my place of employment offers - I could do it sober.

If asked to write up a catalog of thousands of products then I might use some amphetamine for the tedious writing in bulk situation.

If writing a children's book an idea may have been generated on LSD

If asked to do some research i would just have a smoke of bush or hash.

I am sure some RCs might be good also as they can bring up a wide range of outlook. Not used any myself unless we still class MDMA as a RC.

Right now I'm just stoned on good honest weed.

 ;D
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: psychedelia on June 15, 2012, 03:07 am
If I dno't have adderall, coffee always helps when writing, but if it's too much i can't concentrate.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: CaptainTrips on June 15, 2012, 03:28 am
weed + adderall is a very good combo I've found. i think that LSD is the best when it comes to writing though, depending on what you're writing. it just sort of spills out, and what i write on acid always turns out to be particularly cerebral and sort of "tuned in" (best way i can describe it). it's just stream of conscious anyhow
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: psychedelia on June 15, 2012, 03:33 am
weed + adderall is a very good combo I've found. i think that LSD is the best when it comes to writing though, depending on what you're writing. it just sort of spills out, and what i write on acid always turns out to be particularly cerebral and sort of "tuned in" (best way i can describe it). it's just stream of conscious anyhow
I've done this combination, and I enjoyed it, but I've heard that it's not good for health reasons.
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: DDsVoice on June 15, 2012, 03:52 am
 8)

IN REAL WORLD AM MULTI PUBLISHED ACADEMIC, ALSO HAVE HAD PUBLISHED FEW SHORT STORY'S, POEMS KIDS STORYS ETC.......

FROM EXPERIENCE OPIATES AND LSD ARE TWO MOST EFFECTIVE, (IN PSYCHOLOGY PHD GRAD) THEY HELP A DIFFRENT GROUP OF NEURONS FIRE, AND INACT OTHERWISE DORMANT SYNAPSIS..... AS TO THE COMMENT STIMULANTS ALSO HAVE SAME EFFECT, BUT NOT SO MUCH ON CREATIVITY....

SAMUAL TAYLOR COLDRIDGE (THE BEST POET EVER) WROTE THE KUBALA KHAN WHILE OFF HIS NUT ON LORDINUM (OPIATES) THE BEATLES LSD, AS WAS PINK FLOYD ETC.....

THEY ACREDIT VANGOCH TO ABSINTHIAM, ONLY THAT NOT CASE, HE HAD LOWER LOBE EPILEPCY, THE ABSINTH WAS TO REGULATE SEIZURES ETC.... ALCHAOL IS A DEPRESSANT, AS SUCH HINDERS CREATIVITY...

ALTHOUGH THE BRAIN IS MENTAL, IT RECALL INFO BEST WHILST IN STATE IT WAS WHILE LEARNT IT... IF PISSED WHEN LEARNING SOMETING THEN BEST GO PISSED TO YOUR EXAM.....

TRY TABS ON NBOM (OR WHAT EVER CALLED, MILD ENOUGH TO REGUALTE TO SPECIFIC LEVELS, CHEAP ENOUGH TO NOT WORRY).....

PERSONALLY, I FIND FENTANYL AND mst (NOT TOGETHER) IS AMAZING FOR CREATIVITY, ESP WRITING... (IVE POSED MY BEST ARGUMENTS WITHIN HOURS OF MEDICATING, WROTE ALL MY POEMS (HAD 9 PUBLISHED) IN SAME STATE.....

TRY SOME LIQUID MORPHINE, FUNNILY ENOUGH (AVAILABLE THROUGH DrugDoktor @ DiscountDrugs) and if you a writer, or student.... we are here to help with your speed, and opiate needs...... NO HEROIN, SOLD HERE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: Gary Oak on June 15, 2012, 06:12 am
8)

IN REAL WORLD AM MULTI PUBLISHED ACADEMIC, ALSO HAVE HAD PUBLISHED FEW SHORT STORY'S, POEMS KIDS STORYS ETC.......

FROM EXPERIENCE OPIATES AND LSD ARE TWO MOST EFFECTIVE, (IN PSYCHOLOGY PHD GRAD) THEY HELP A DIFFRENT GROUP OF NEURONS FIRE, AND INACT OTHERWISE DORMANT SYNAPSIS..... AS TO THE COMMENT STIMULANTS ALSO HAVE SAME EFFECT, BUT NOT SO MUCH ON CREATIVITY....

SAMUAL TAYLOR COLDRIDGE (THE BEST POET EVER) WROTE THE KUBALA KHAN WHILE OFF HIS NUT ON LORDINUM (OPIATES) THE BEATLES LSD, AS WAS PINK FLOYD ETC.....

THEY ACREDIT VANGOCH TO ABSINTHIAM, ONLY THAT NOT CASE, HE HAD LOWER LOBE EPILEPCY, THE ABSINTH WAS TO REGULATE SEIZURES ETC.... ALCHAOL IS A DEPRESSANT, AS SUCH HINDERS CREATIVITY...

ALTHOUGH THE BRAIN IS MENTAL, IT RECALL INFO BEST WHILST IN STATE IT WAS WHILE LEARNT IT... IF PISSED WHEN LEARNING SOMETING THEN BEST GO PISSED TO YOUR EXAM.....

TRY TABS ON NBOM (OR WHAT EVER CALLED, MILD ENOUGH TO REGUALTE TO SPECIFIC LEVELS, CHEAP ENOUGH TO NOT WORRY).....

PERSONALLY, I FIND FENTANYL AND mst (NOT TOGETHER) IS AMAZING FOR CREATIVITY, ESP WRITING... (IVE POSED MY BEST ARGUMENTS WITHIN HOURS OF MEDICATING, WROTE ALL MY POEMS (HAD 9 PUBLISHED) IN SAME STATE.....

TRY SOME LIQUID MORPHINE, FUNNILY ENOUGH (AVAILABLE THROUGH DrugDoktor @ DiscountDrugs) and if you a writer, or student.... we are here to help with your speed, and opiate needs...... NO HEROIN, SOLD HERE!!!!!!!

You're a fucking moron for typing with the caps lock on. >:(
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: DDsVoice on June 15, 2012, 11:35 am
 :-*

moron for using caps lock.....oh dude,  look at the aggression.... You really going to be that pedantic over what was supposedly Someones perspective on creative outlets, being facilitated by drugs...... my intellect, or mental agility is not in question......

Mind you most underachievers (people with no motivation) tend to air on side of aggression, im guessing my comments put you in defensive position as it made you question your own achievements..... either increase your doses (do more drugs) or work harder... But don't bite at people for no good reason......

mind you if you got nothing better to say, then don't say anything... do you know what, I pretty much like everyone, But you Sir are rude, ill mannered, and down right cheeky....

Im guessin u must be linked to the competition!!!!!!! 

well it made me laugh, that you went to the effort of doing that, shows how pettty you my friend... DD
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: Gary Oak on June 15, 2012, 11:46 am
:-*

moron for using caps lock.....oh dude,  look at the aggression.... You really going to be that pedantic over what was supposedly Someones perspective on creative outlets, being facilitated by drugs...... my intellect, or mental agility is not in question......

Mind you most underachievers (people with no motivation) tend to air on side of aggression, im guessing my comments put you in defensive position as it made you question your own achievements..... either increase your doses (do more drugs) or work harder... But don't bite at people for no good reason......

mind you if you got nothing better to say, then don't say anything... do you know what, I pretty much like everyone, But you Sir are rude, ill mannered, and down right cheeky....

Im guessin u must be linked to the competition!!!!!!! 

well it made me laugh, that you went to the effort of doing that, shows how pettty you my friend... DD

I fail to see how I can take offense to anything so grammatically incorrect, if anything I feel more confident in my own intelligence. So thanks! ;D
You could've just said, "My bad, I was high and fucked up", and I'd have understood but now I just know you're stupid. Obviously I offended you or something, sorry bro but I don't know what to say about that other than grow some balls? ??? And way to be a hypocrite by telling me what to do buddy, so why don't you go fuck yourself, you weird little prick? Typing a single sentence isn't much of an effort for normal people by the way. ;)

In the words of a wise man and a hero...
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Blow it out your ass!
Title: Re: Best Drug for Writing (Or Creativity)
Post by: foxymeow on June 16, 2012, 06:06 pm
8)

IN REAL WORLD AM MULTI PUBLISHED ACADEMIC, ALSO HAVE HAD PUBLISHED FEW SHORT STORY'S, POEMS KIDS STORYS ETC.......

FROM EXPERIENCE OPIATES AND LSD ARE TWO MOST EFFECTIVE, (IN PSYCHOLOGY PHD GRAD) THEY HELP A DIFFRENT GROUP OF NEURONS FIRE, AND INACT OTHERWISE DORMANT SYNAPSIS..... AS TO THE COMMENT STIMULANTS ALSO HAVE SAME EFFECT, BUT NOT SO MUCH ON CREATIVITY....

SAMUAL TAYLOR COLDRIDGE (THE BEST POET EVER) WROTE THE KUBALA KHAN WHILE OFF HIS NUT ON LORDINUM (OPIATES) THE BEATLES LSD, AS WAS PINK FLOYD ETC.....

THEY ACREDIT VANGOCH TO ABSINTHIAM, ONLY THAT NOT CASE, HE HAD LOWER LOBE EPILEPCY, THE ABSINTH WAS TO REGULATE SEIZURES ETC.... ALCHAOL IS A DEPRESSANT, AS SUCH HINDERS CREATIVITY...

ALTHOUGH THE BRAIN IS MENTAL, IT RECALL INFO BEST WHILST IN STATE IT WAS WHILE LEARNT IT... IF PISSED WHEN LEARNING SOMETING THEN BEST GO PISSED TO YOUR EXAM.....

TRY TABS ON NBOM (OR WHAT EVER CALLED, MILD ENOUGH TO REGUALTE TO SPECIFIC LEVELS, CHEAP ENOUGH TO NOT WORRY).....

PERSONALLY, I FIND FENTANYL AND mst (NOT TOGETHER) IS AMAZING FOR CREATIVITY, ESP WRITING... (IVE POSED MY BEST ARGUMENTS WITHIN HOURS OF MEDICATING, WROTE ALL MY POEMS (HAD 9 PUBLISHED) IN SAME STATE.....

TRY SOME LIQUID MORPHINE, FUNNILY ENOUGH (AVAILABLE THROUGH DrugDoktor @ DiscountDrugs) and if you a writer, or student.... we are here to help with your speed, and opiate needs...... NO HEROIN, SOLD HERE!!!!!!!

You're a fucking moron for typing with the caps lock on. >:(

I don't like to rag on other vendors...but seriously CAPS LOCK...what is this 4chan?

I'm sure morphine is a fantastic long term solution for a student. There are no harmful side effects  ::)