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Title: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: DocButt on April 20, 2013, 08:03 pm
Hey guys,

I've still got some LSD left  2 x 80µg blotter and I've got 2 x 110mg of MDMA coming in to share with a friend. Since I don't have a great deal of either I was wondering about using them together after googling I found out this is called candyflipping. I wanted to get your guys opinion on when it was best to take them, or at all?

All opinions welcome!
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: zvp1014 on April 20, 2013, 09:30 pm
Have you ever done either in isolation before? if not, do the two tabs of acid at the same time one day, then save the MDMA for another (either two separate times, or take one then take another an hour later or at your peak of the MDMA).

If you have already experienced the wonders of Lucy and Molly, however, then most people I know recommend Lucy first, Molly an hour or two in. It'll negate the acid trip somewhat but become an incredibly long state of euphoria.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 20, 2013, 10:10 pm
Originally posted by AnimusVox
Candyflipping is absolutely beautiful and one of the most synergistic combinations you can partake in. I have combined many substances with varying time increments (I’m OCD when it comes to a timing schedule), and have found that taking 1.5mg/Kg of MDMA at precisely T+2:00 to offer for the best results. In doing so, the LSD will have nearly (if not fully) manifested itself and will guide your MDMA peak so that they both align beautifully. I’ve stressed it before and I’ll stress it again: they key to a successful candyflip is TIMING. Why? Because you want your trip and roll to end at about the same time. Check out the erowid effects graphs yourself and you'll find that the 2 hour mark to be optimal.

Another thing you need to be wary of is not dosing too much MDMA or it might overpower the LSD. MDMA is meant to add a euphoric and positive undertone to the trip and enhance tactile and musical appreciation even further, so don’t go balls to the walls with your MDMA dose. The combination is incredibly gentle, and any worries, anxieties, or ill thoughts you think you may have will completely vanish once you finally realize just how beautiful the candyflip world is. LSD and MDMA are, in my experience, the two most synergistic substances out there. They complement each other amazingly well and the odds for a bad candyflip are close to nil.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: DocButt on April 21, 2013, 01:11 pm

Thanks, I've tried LSD once before at twice the dose I'll have available. I've never tried MDMA.
Have you ever done either in isolation before? if not, do the two tabs of acid at the same time one day, then save the MDMA for another (either two separate times, or take one then take another an hour later or at your peak of the MDMA).

If you have already experienced the wonders of Lucy and Molly, however, then most people I know recommend Lucy first, Molly an hour or two in. It'll negate the acid trip somewhat but become an incredibly long state of euphoria.

That's a great repost thanks. Sounds like the general concenus is LSD then 2-4hours later MDMA.
Originally posted by AnimusVox
Candyflipping is absolutely beautiful and one of the most synergistic combinations you can partake in. I have combined many substances with varying time increments (I’m OCD when it comes to a timing schedule), and have found that taking 1.5mg/Kg of MDMA at precisely T+2:00 to offer for the best results. In doing so, the LSD will have nearly (if not fully) manifested itself and will guide your MDMA peak so that they both align beautifully. I’ve stressed it before and I’ll stress it again: they key to a successful candyflip is TIMING. Why? Because you want your trip and roll to end at about the same time. Check out the erowid effects graphs yourself and you'll find that the 2 hour mark to be optimal.

Another thing you need to be wary of is not dosing too much MDMA or it might overpower the LSD. MDMA is meant to add a euphoric and positive undertone to the trip and enhance tactile and musical appreciation even further, so don’t go balls to the walls with your MDMA dose. The combination is incredibly gentle, and any worries, anxieties, or ill thoughts you think you may have will completely vanish once you finally realize just how beautiful the candyflip world is. LSD and MDMA are, in my experience, the two most synergistic substances out there. They complement each other amazingly well and the odds for a bad candyflip are close to nil.

Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 21, 2013, 03:13 pm
i candyflipped lastnight/this morning  :P

i took one hit of jors hoffman and 120 mgs of mdma at pretty much the same time, and took another hoffman at like 3 hours in.

its been an amazing experience, pupils are still dialated after 10 hours.

the world looks like a mystical candyland  ;)
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: valakki on April 22, 2013, 03:08 pm
i candyflipped lastnight/this morning  :P

i took one hit of jors hoffman and 120 mgs of mdma at pretty much the same time, and took another hoffman at like 3 hours in.

its been an amazing experience, pupils are still dialated after 10 hours.

the world looks like a mystical candyland  ;)

I never redosed acid... Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 22, 2013, 03:16 pm
i candyflipped lastnight/this morning  :P

i took one hit of jors hoffman and 120 mgs of mdma at pretty much the same time, and took another hoffman at like 3 hours in.

its been an amazing experience, pupils are still dialated after 10 hours.

the world looks like a mystical candyland  ;)


I never redosed acid... Is it worth it?

it depends on when you hit the redose. with the candyflip 3 hours was soon enough to ADD to the experience(intensified visuals, epiphanys. etc), instead of just adding to the length of it  :)
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: Tessellated on April 22, 2013, 03:22 pm
I have only mixed the two a few times, but I find if I take the MDMA just as I start to peek/peak/pique that I feel just great for the rest of the trip.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: valakki on April 22, 2013, 03:28 pm
i candyflipped lastnight/this morning  :P

i took one hit of jors hoffman and 120 mgs of mdma at pretty much the same time, and took another hoffman at like 3 hours in.

its been an amazing experience, pupils are still dialated after 10 hours.

the world looks like a mystical candyland  ;)


I never redosed acid... Is it worth it?

it depends on when you hit the redose. with the candyflip 3 hours was soon enough to ADD to the experience(intensified visuals, epiphanys. etc), instead of just adding to the length of it  :)

cool! thanks. what is the dose? 300 and 150 later?  or something like that?
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 22, 2013, 03:32 pm
my exact dose was 120 mg mdma and 110ug of lsd (took mdma, waited about 5 minutes and took the L)

with another 110ug dropped at about 3 hours in.

oh and tess, what was your most recent batch tested at? (just curious  :P )
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: valakki on April 22, 2013, 03:39 pm
my exact dose was 120 mg mdma and 110ug of lsd (took mdma, waited about 5 minutes and took the L)

with another 110ug dropped at about 3 hours in.

oh and tess, what was your most recent batch tested at? (just curious  :P )
thanks.. makes sense!
cheers!
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: Purple_Hue000 on April 23, 2013, 08:15 am
I've candyflipped twice but the first time was phenomenal. We were at a rave and picked up some good clean mollies, a few pills, and a few hits of liquid LSD dropped onto pieces of gum.

I first popped the two mollies; and even was shown how the molly was small little crystals rather than powder.

We partied and listened to the music for a bit and then about almost an hour later I popped a white gucci and it felt really clean. By an hour and 20 mins in I was Rolling nice! Close to an hour after popping the white gucci pill I finally take my hit of LSD then we left the club. The Candyflip really started hitting as soon as we got back to the house.

I was feeling very euphoric and awesome, I was starting to get nice colorful visuals and we took a walk to the park then the foot hills to watch the sun rise. We were Candyflipping for a good 10+ hours just feeling so blissful and awesome the whole time with very nice clean visuals.

I honestly can't wait to Candyflip again.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: zebra420kitty on April 23, 2013, 11:03 am
Not trying to hijack!

But im looking to candy flip this saturday at a rave but i want to add mda into the mix aswell. My normal starting dose for mdma is a .2 to .3 when i take it alone. and mda i always do with mdma at a .1 and another .1 maybe later. So i was thinking it would be good to do a .15mdma .1mda, but what i am unsure about is the lsd dosage. I have 5 200ug tabs left and i was hoping for a solid experience, but i am not sure how much to dose the lsd. I have done lsd only two times. the first being what felt weak, and the second being 120ug and not being super effective either.

What do you think would be best dosing? thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: aussiepp on April 23, 2013, 01:34 pm
I also have a candyflipping question :)
I have a couple of Tess's tabs and 120mg of MDMA, so I'm considering doing it this weekend.
Is the comedown from the MDMA noticeable? I feel worried that the I'd crash from the MDMA and it could possible cause a bad trip or just make me feel shitty for the rest of the trip. I'm not sure though..
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 23, 2013, 02:04 pm
I also have a candyflipping question :)
I have a couple of Tess's tabs and 120mg of MDMA, so I'm considering doing it this weekend.
Is the comedown from the MDMA noticeable? I feel worried that the I'd crash from the MDMA and it could possible cause a bad trip or just make me feel shitty for the rest of the trip. I'm not sure though..

shulgin says that you should treat all drug combinations as if they are a new drug.
that being said, i didnt come down from one drug first, then the other.

its all just one big experience, the L prolongs the activity of mdma for quite some time (for me anyways)

one thing i should definitely include is that at about the 1 hour mark, i was thinking to myself "god damn, i am getting very high right now" (which was of course because i took them both at the same time.)

nick sand, the man who invented orange sunshine, talked about candy flipping at burning man.

he says that he likes to take his mdma first, then the lsd as soon as he feels the mdma.

he said that mdma shows you how to love people (obviously)

and lsd is an "imprinting" experience.

so you are basically imprinting love into your life haha.  ;)

hope this was helpful  ::)
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: Tessellated on April 24, 2013, 02:29 pm
my exact dose was 120 mg mdma and 110ug of lsd (took mdma, waited about 5 minutes and took the L)

with another 110ug dropped at about 3 hours in.

oh and tess, what was your most recent batch tested at? (just curious  :P )

My most recent batch does not exist right now.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: aussiepp on April 24, 2013, 02:34 pm
I also have a candyflipping question :)
I have a couple of Tess's tabs and 120mg of MDMA, so I'm considering doing it this weekend.
Is the comedown from the MDMA noticeable? I feel worried that the I'd crash from the MDMA and it could possible cause a bad trip or just make me feel shitty for the rest of the trip. I'm not sure though..

shulgin says that you should treat all drug combinations as if they are a new drug.
that being said, i didnt come down from one drug first, then the other.

its all just one big experience, the L prolongs the activity of mdma for quite some time (for me anyways)

one thing i should definitely include is that at about the 1 hour mark, i was thinking to myself "god damn, i am getting very high right now" (which was of course because i took them both at the same time.)

nick sand, the man who invented orange sunshine, talked about candy flipping at burning man.

he says that he likes to take his mdma first, then the lsd as soon as he feels the mdma.

he said that mdma shows you how to love people (obviously)

and lsd is an "imprinting" experience.

so you are basically imprinting love into your life haha.  ;)

hope this was helpful  ::)

Very interesting. It was very helpful, thanks buddy!
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 24, 2013, 03:00 pm
my exact dose was 120 mg mdma and 110ug of lsd (took mdma, waited about 5 minutes and took the L)

with another 110ug dropped at about 3 hours in.

oh and tess, what was your most recent batch tested at? (just curious  :P )

My most recent batch does not exist right now.

lol blueveil is reselling 3 5 strips of your last batch, i guess you didnt know that  ::)
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: DocButt on April 28, 2013, 10:52 pm
Thanks for all the info guys all the reply's have been super useful.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: theupsman1 on April 29, 2013, 07:49 pm
Ive done lsd and mdma seperately but never candyflipped. Anyone tried it at a dnb rave? Im trying to cut back on mdma use and Bit worried LSD is a bit on the trippy side for that kind of bpm music i would imagine it is better suited to other types of raves? any opinions?
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: slirp on April 29, 2013, 09:09 pm
Ive done lsd and mdma seperately but never candyflipped. Anyone tried it at a dnb rave? Im trying to cut back on mdma use and Bit worried LSD is a bit on the trippy side for that kind of bpm music i would imagine it is better suited to other types of raves? any opinions?

Cutting back on MDMA and going to a rave is a hard combo but I commend you for cutting back on MDMA.

I read on here that there isn't much cross-tolerance between methylone and MDMA although I'm a little skeptical that is accurate.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 29, 2013, 09:47 pm
Ive done lsd and mdma seperately but never candyflipped. Anyone tried it at a dnb rave? Im trying to cut back on mdma use and Bit worried LSD is a bit on the trippy side for that kind of bpm music i would imagine it is better suited to other types of raves? any opinions?

Cutting back on MDMA and going to a rave is a hard combo but I commend you for cutting back on MDMA.

I read on here that there isn't much cross-tolerance between methylone and MDMA although I'm a little skeptical that is accurate.
try it yourself. bk keeps working, and working, and working, and working.

etc.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: theupsman1 on April 29, 2013, 10:10 pm
hmm never thought about that, ill do some research thx.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: slirp on April 29, 2013, 11:54 pm
If somebody offered cheap domestic bk-MDMA then I would certainly give it a try and then buy more.  It is cheap coming from China of course but I've read about a good few seizures of methylone coming from China both on SR and in the news.  mg for mg it isn't as potent as MDMA of course.  Does it cause a release of serotonin or does it act directly on the serotonin receptors?  I need to look that up.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 30, 2013, 05:05 pm
If somebody offered cheap domestic bk-MDMA then I would certainly give it a try and then buy more.  It is cheap coming from China of course but I've read about a good few seizures of methylone coming from China both on SR and in the news.  mg for mg it isn't as potent as MDMA of course.  Does it cause a release of serotonin or does it act directly on the serotonin receptors?  I need to look that up.

bk is cheap no matter where you buy it from (of course its cheapER from out of the country but not by that much really)

"Does it cause a release of serotonin or does it act directly on the serotonin receptors?"<---this doesnt really make sense but i think i have some info that might be helpful.

it has the same mechanism of action as mdma. same dopamine and norephinepherine release but 1/3 the serotonin release....

Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: theupsman1 on April 30, 2013, 05:21 pm
so why not just take 1/3 of mdma.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: Cosette on April 30, 2013, 05:30 pm
I think if you're taking 150ug or less, take it at the same time. Otherwise, wait 1-2 hours.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on April 30, 2013, 06:00 pm
so why not just take 1/3 of mdma.
lol.... i am failing to understand the logic in this.

the dopamine and norephinepherine release are the same for bk, its just the serotonin thats weaker.

the cause of neurotoxicity from mdma is from excess serotonin.

so i'll nail this down into a neat little package haha.

-you can get grams of bk-mdma for like 20 bucks domestic.
-bk keeps working, for some damn reason.
-its less toxic because of the serotonin release.
-its not nearly as overwhelming, unless you decide to take like 300 mgs of it.
-generally, its more pure because its coming from jap-labs (haha)

now, for the main reason as to why its not as popular as mdma.
real mdma gets you HIGH AS FUCK, and makes you fall in love with everything.

you will see where everyone is coming from, and you will (usually) learn to except anything and everything for what it is, even if it doesnt interest you.
real mdma is magical.

bk-mdma is "fun"  ;)

Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: zebra420kitty on May 10, 2013, 07:22 am
I have another candy flip question,

What is ideal dosing for a candy flip. I currently have 5 tabs of 200ug, and as much mdma as i could possibly want.

I was thinking 300-400 ug and a .17 of mdma.

Does anyone believe this will be a good dose so they dont overwhelm each other too much?
Im seeking a slightly more lsd experience. if i could put it into %, id say 60% lsd 40% mdma.

^This may be a bad way to put it
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: wavelength on May 10, 2013, 05:40 pm
I have another candy flip question,

What is ideal dosing for a candy flip. I currently have 5 tabs of 200ug, and as much mdma as i could possibly want.

I was thinking 300-400 ug and a .17 of mdma.

Does anyone believe this will be a good dose so they dont overwhelm each other too much?
Im seeking a slightly more lsd experience. if i could put it into %, id say 60% lsd 40% mdma.

^This may be a bad way to put it

pretty high dose.... very if you ask me haha. drugs are synergistic. you dont need multiple doses of each in my opinion.
i did 110 ug and 120 mgs mdma(redosed another hit later)  and that was a ride. i would have maybe taken 2 at the start instead but the walls were flowing/highlighted with neon colors before i even redosed.

of course i took them both at once though so remember that haha. i dont know how you plan on dosing.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: AnimusVox on May 10, 2013, 08:06 pm
Tonight I'll be combining ~400ug of jesusofrave's TOC LSD, and then at T+2:00, a mixed capsule of 80mg of 3Jane's MDA and 60mg of luckylucianno's MDMA. I've found dosing at T+2:00 to provide for the most optimal experience, and for those of you that have yet to combine MDA/MDMA in a single dose, I highly recommend doing so. It's been a hot minute since I've done a mixture myself, so I'm really  looking forward to the beautiful times ahead. Good vibes, everyone! :)
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: slirp on May 10, 2013, 11:22 pm
Does anyone find the MDMA induced eye wobbles to be a bit more annoying while tripping on LSD and trying to enjoy the OEVs?

I need MDMA (or MDA) to remove anxiety that I get from seemingly every other drug but I wonder if MDMA ever takes away from the LSD experience.  Perhaps similar to zebra420kitty's question I think that at least once I'd like to trip more than roll.  But man rolling sure is nice.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: happertand on May 10, 2013, 11:35 pm
I've never candy flipped and never heard of "how to do it" but I chose the majority vote. Probably because it makes sense that the LSD will last longer so you want to catch the tail end of the acid trip with the mellowing soothingness of the MDMA.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: bamoida2 on May 11, 2013, 08:36 am
200-300µg LSD 1.5 hours before MDMA, for a very intense and unique candyflipping experience

I strongly suggest anyone to try both drugs out separately first, to get to know them, some people, especially new users probably can't handle the intensity of stronger LSD dose, so if you are not experienced or unsure, take less(around 100-150µg)
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: b0lixtrader on May 11, 2013, 10:10 am
Tonight I'll be combining ~400ug of jesusofrave's TOC LSD, and then at T+2:00, a mixed capsule of 80mg of 3Jane's MDA and 60mg of luckylucianno's MDMA. I've found dosing at T+2:00 to provide for the most optimal experience, and for those of you that have yet to combine MDA/MDMA in a single dose, I highly recommend doing so. It's been a hot minute since I've done a mixture myself, so I'm really  looking forward to the beautiful times ahead. Good vibes, everyone! :)
Damn!  Hope you had or are still having lots of fun haha.
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: AnimusVox on May 11, 2013, 10:37 am
Tonight I'll be combining ~400ug of jesusofrave's TOC LSD, and then at T+2:00, a mixed capsule of 80mg of 3Jane's MDA and 60mg of luckylucianno's MDMA. I've found dosing at T+2:00 to provide for the most optimal experience, and for those of you that have yet to combine MDA/MDMA in a single dose, I highly recommend doing so. It's been a hot minute since I've done a mixture myself, so I'm really  looking forward to the beautiful times ahead. Good vibes, everyone! :)
Damn!  Hope you had or are still having lots of fun haha.

Oh I did! :)

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45270.msg1114729#msg1114729
Title: Re: Candyflip LSD + MDMA
Post by: BYSD on May 15, 2013, 05:52 pm
The last time I candyflipped i had a whale of a time.. i was convinced that there were fairy lights flashing everywhere and i couldnt wipe the smile off of my face, it was quite a unique experience.
I was so involved however, i didn't notice that my partner was having an existential crisis. oh-oh  :-\