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Title: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on January 30, 2012, 11:19 pm
How do I receive a tablet press?

I see plenty of listings for the TDP-5 on Chinese sites but what would be the best place to send one.

I have a PMB right now and I live in an APT.

Do you think it would be possible to have a 150KG pill press sent to a UPS Store PMB....its sounds pretty sketch. I mean I don't mind opening a PMB in a store in a different town just for the purpose of receiving it. I could pick it up and never using the mailbox again.

If I can get this pill press I can crank out some 6-APB tablet for all you guys on SR as well as locally.

Also could crank out AMT, FOXY, and 2c-b tablets
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: wowzers on January 30, 2012, 11:42 pm
jeez foxy- all those acronyms... TDP, PMB, APT, UPS, APB, AMT.
Moonbear's keen to set himself up as a re-shipper, you could always ask him to send it on to you  ;D

In all seriousness though, couldn't you set up a mail box in the name of a business 'Foxy artisan confectionery' or something, and have them ship it labelled as a hard candy press? Pretty sure there's a TDP machine for exactly that application.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: tordemon on January 31, 2012, 12:52 am
jeez foxy- all those acronyms... TDP, PMB, APT, UPS, APB, AMT.
Moonbear's keen to set himself up as a re-shipper, you could always ask him to send it on to you  ;D

In all seriousness though, couldn't you set up a mail box in the name of a business 'Foxy artisan confectionery' or something, and have them ship it labelled as a hard candy press? Pretty sure there's a TDP machine for exactly that application.
That's a really great idea, you'll just have to choose a different name for the company now, Foxy. But, if you did 'make' such a company, you could even (possibly) send out your products labeled as candy, which might make them less susceptible to inspection? Hard to say.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: Marceline on January 31, 2012, 12:57 am
That's a good way to end up on a watch list, unless you're ordering to a corporate address. The most common way I've read about people getting them anonymously is buying 'repair parts' from China one by one and assembling it themselves.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on January 31, 2012, 03:25 am
It would be great if I could get this in somehow. I would love to be able to supply you guys with some great retro RC pills. Think of the old days of Foxy, AMT, 2c-t-7, and 2c-b pills :D

Those foxy pills back in the day were fucking amazing :D
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: toker420 on January 31, 2012, 06:02 am
gotta import one piece at a time, then put together.  I remember that's how Ene got his over.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on January 31, 2012, 06:20 am
gotta import one piece at a time, then put together.  I remember that's how Ene got his over.

I guess that is what I will have to do then....

What is an example of the company name should I put on the PMB?
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: Marceline on January 31, 2012, 06:30 am
gotta import one piece at a time, then put together.  I remember that's how Ene got his over.

I guess that is what I will have to do then....

What is an example of the company name should I put on the PMB?
If you're trying to import the whole press at once, I'd go with something related to natural medicine -- act like you're pressing vitamins or something. If you're just getting it piece by piece, it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 06:57 am
there is no reason to worry about it being in a business name, registration, watch lists etc.
AMERICAN MANUFACTURED PRESSES are watched. The chinese import TONS of machinery daily. When a chinese company ships a printing press its labeled "machinery" when they ship a tablet press its labeled "machinery". I have 2 presses. Both from china.
The biggest deal is just the size. They are heavy large shipments.
I had one shipped to a friends residence.
I had another shipped to a business address I have loose association with.

If neither of these are options for you.....when I was younger I ran a legitimate business that received a full pallet shipment of supplies once a month. Not having anywhere reasonable to receive them I called around to local storage facilities. Turns out MANY of them routinely receive large shipments for tenants, google "self storage" "receive shipments" and youll see. when you call tell them you are going to be starting a business (no need for a business license or business name since it doesnt exist yet) and are looking for a storage facility that can receive shipments of equipment for you.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on January 31, 2012, 01:38 pm
there is no reason to worry about it being in a business name, registration, watch lists etc.
AMERICAN MANUFACTURED PRESSES are watched. The chinese import TONS of machinery daily. When a chinese company ships a printing press its labeled "machinery" when they ship a tablet press its labeled "machinery". I have 2 presses. Both from china.
The biggest deal is just the size. They are heavy large shipments.
I had one shipped to a friends residence.
I had another shipped to a business address I have loose association with.

If neither of these are options for you.....when I was younger I ran a legitimate business that received a full pallet shipment of supplies once a month. Not having anywhere reasonable to receive them I called around to local storage facilities. Turns out MANY of them routinely receive large shipments for tenants, google "self storage" "receive shipments" and youll see. when you call tell them you are going to be starting a business (no need for a business license or business name since it doesnt exist yet) and are looking for a storage facility that can receive shipments of equipment for you.

Hmm I never though of self storage. So I could just rent out a storage unit for a month and receive it?

Also where in god names would I store and use a tablet press. I'm just trying not to rush into this because there seems to be a lot to do logistically.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 02:10 pm
yes if you check around and find a storage unit that accepts deliveries....they will receive it, have delivery place it in a unit.

Where to keep it?
how about you load it up and move it to a different storage facility?
Unless your intending to tablet 24/7....a tdp5 will kick out 3-5KTablets/hr. No need to add a manufacturing charge keeping it close.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on January 31, 2012, 03:36 pm
yes if you check around and find a storage unit that accepts deliveries....they will receive it, have delivery place it in a unit.

Where to keep it?
how about you load it up and move it to a different storage facility?
Unless your intending to tablet 24/7....a tdp5 will kick out 3-5KTablets/hr. No need to add a manufacturing charge keeping it close.

That is what I figured. That shit will be a bitch to move around. I'll talk to my partners about it as we have some money saved up. They are obviously apprehensive about this...and for good reason. But I do want to make this happen.

If I can churn out 6-APB pills then it will be great as 6-APB is the best, most powerful, cleanest, and most well liked "roll" as it is such a close MDA analog. Not to mention that 6-APB is uncontrolled and is not included in the "Synthetic Drugs Ban" that is going through the Senate right now so it will be quite a few months before it is banned. Therefore I have no problem receiving it as it if got confiscated it would just be an RC.

I am stopping selling methylone because the profits are becoming pretty small compared to the risk. I really don't feel like importing kilograms of a Schedule 1 drug when I am only making $700 on a kilogram. I have made thousands on methylone but I feel like it is time to move on. I just saw someone who posted on reddit saying that they got 40g of methylone confiscated. He might just get a love letter...but if I get a kilo confiscated it is a fucking death sentence.

Although I will still be doing bulk orders if anyone wants to get it direct from my supplier. 250g is the minimum order. I will only take a small cut.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 04:05 pm
when mine was shipped, before unpacking it....I moved it by myself with a uhaul appliance dolly...you know a 2 wheel handcart with a strap. It wasnt really hard to move at all.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on January 31, 2012, 04:35 pm
Alright, I think I will go look into a storage unit on Friday and put it under the name of some T-Shirt Company.

I'll just be cranking out 3k t-shirts in an hour like a boss :D

What are the best fillers/binders to buy?
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 04:54 pm
not Tshirts. Tshirts use ink. ink can be volatile.
most storage facilities do not permit the storage of chemicals.

The storage unit it will live in should be registered under whatever generic identity you care to with no explanation of content or activity. They dont care if you go to your storage unit 20 times a week as long as you dont try to spend the night in it. 

As for binders,excipients, and lubricants....thats sort of voodoo formulary, finding just the right mix for your active, your machine, and your desired tablet result.

Ill start with the easy part...lubricants.
stearic acid and magnesium stearate

Binders hold the tablet together, Excipients help it break apart in the stomach. Some binders are dual function in that they not only provide the compression hold but also break down readily in the stomach. A tablet that is too tightly compressed might pass the stomach in tact and breakdown in the intestines instead. This can lead to delayed and potentially INTENSIFIED effect....which can be BAD, OD BAD at times.
the 3 biggies are

Lactose
Sucrose (usually an additive component not a primary binder)
microcrystaline cellulose (this one can vary greatly in property as there are literally dozens if not hundreds of types of m.c.)


Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 05:36 pm
Thats ridiculous.
Nothing in this thread cannot be found by a person of average intelligence with a bit of google skills and a mild amount of creative thought.
Given that there are thousands of self storage facilities all over the world....I dont see the discussion of that at all sensitive.
I would much rather someone read this thread than have them buy a press of ebay, with their own paypal, and have it shipped to their house.

the idea that we should restrict knowledge shared here to those who have passed some sort of a standardized test of the underworld is ludicrous......but the idea that the discussion of these matters would somehow influence law enforcement (ptb) is asinine. They bust storage unit methlabs at least once a week somewhere in the US. They already know that they are used illegitimately....but there are THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of storage facilities, with hundreds upon hundreds of units in each....and they have to have a specific unit targeted with due cause just to get the search warrant.

So seriously.....when we start sending open hyperlinks to storage units we have had good luck using, or supply houses for materials, or chinese labs that produce and ship substances of concern to the US....feel free to speak up....that sort of idiocy has no place here. This discussion as it sets is innocuous.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 05:47 pm
and while I am on a divergent tangent....

The largest argument against tableting beyond risk is economic.....
If you invest $3K between press and dies, another few hundred in tableting materials......and up your price by .50 youll have it all paid off in the first few hours of operation....but then youll have to actually move the 10K+ units youve produced...then you have this big heavy machine.....but how often will you really need it?
Even a simple basic press like the tdp-5 produces sooo many tablets that you really have to be making a WHOLE lot for its purchase to make sense.

Even colored capsules only cost fractions of a cent in 1000+ quantities.

Tableting is a big investment....so I doubt this thread will cause a sudden rush of kids making tablets.

Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on January 31, 2012, 07:01 pm
1. binders,excipients, and lubricants can be found on the labels of EVERY tablet in your house. NULL POINT
2. Kids will buy hand presses. Load them and fail......insufficient pressure for compaction. The pills crumble. Even the lower cost tableting machines suffer from weak tablets. tdp 1.5 is useless unless you use paste pressing.
3. Who cares how public this board is? As Ive made quite clear, there is nothing sensitive in this thread.
4. Do you really believe ANY government has the resources to check every single item shipped into this country? if so you are a fool. Even if they properly identified that it was a tablet press....there is no requirement to register them on importation. There is a requirement for american manufactures to complete FDA registration at sale.
5. Your defense installation equipment comment just further establishes the lax capabilities and concern of US Customs. They are looking for drugs and container load shipments of products....not individual equipment shipments with legitimate purposes of use.
6. While perhaps the long term monitoring should be of concern to Foxy....I havent offered nor implied current sales of anything to anyone at anytime. And if she is comfortable enough in her security precautions SELLING on SR, I dont think that this discussion is of any great sensitivity....AGAIN.
7. Please dont bother going into it here....I doubt anyone has any concern for your tales of imagined experience. Too much info in the wrong place? Repercussions? HA. Nothing Ive told Foxy here has any risk of incriminating me in any way.....and SHE is on this site to SELL DRUGS....so I think shes already crossed whatever line was drawn on the floor....and made the choice to take her own precautions.

and finally,
8. I hope this was nice and neat enough for you. when someone asks a question they want an answer. The next time someone has this sort of question they will have this thread to look over. Thats good...In my opinion. Yours doesnt really matter to me.

You do realize that you are on a forum dedicated to illegal activity? Occupied by vendors who deal illegal drugs by mail, and people who order drugs by mail? Perhaps youve made a wrong turn somewhere...
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: toker420 on February 01, 2012, 02:44 am
Foxy, I have some info for you but it is very area specific in most places, pm me your general location, not state, general location...  And I can provide you with more details about the PMB name and what not.  Some places monitor things more than others... I happen to reside fairly near a low risk location to import one in a few shipments.  I would import it for a fee and forward it. PM me. Peace.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: cloud9ne on February 01, 2012, 03:08 am
Look on your local craigslist for a virtual office. You get street address, business name, and they sign for any packages.
Inbound shipments then go to a known office not some storage space or PMB
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on February 01, 2012, 03:58 am
I really don't think that any
This thread is set to self destruct in a few hours correct?

Because were gonna have kids like MoonBear blowing out pills with datura and gods knows what else in there...

Maybe you 2 would like to take it to PM?

We cant be giving out too much info to people that didnt work for it or the PTB in general.



Kids who have 3k to spend on a tablet press and the monthly payments for a storage units....Yeah people are just going to start running onto the tablet press bandwagon :D

1. binders,excipients, and lubricants can be found on the labels of EVERY tablet in your house. NULL POINT
2. Kids will buy hand presses. Load them and fail......insufficient pressure for compaction. The pills crumble. Even the lower cost tableting machines suffer from weak tablets. tdp 1.5 is useless unless you use paste pressing.
3. Who cares how public this board is? As Ive made quite clear, there is nothing sensitive in this thread.
4. Do you really believe ANY government has the resources to check every single item shipped into this country? if so you are a fool. Even if they properly identified that it was a tablet press....there is no requirement to register them on importation. There is a requirement for american manufactures to complete FDA registration at sale.
5. Your defense installation equipment comment just further establishes the lax capabilities and concern of US Customs. They are looking for drugs and container load shipments of products....not individual equipment shipments with legitimate purposes of use.
6. While perhaps the long term monitoring should be of concern to Foxy....I havent offered nor implied current sales of anything to anyone at anytime. And if she is comfortable enough in her security precautions SELLING on SR, I dont think that this discussion is of any great sensitivity....AGAIN.
7. Please dont bother going into it here....I doubt anyone has any concern for your tales of imagined experience. Too much info in the wrong place? Repercussions? HA. Nothing Ive told Foxy here has any risk of incriminating me in any way.....and SHE is on this site to SELL DRUGS....so I think shes already crossed whatever line was drawn on the floor....and made the choice to take her own precautions.

and finally,
8. I hope this was nice and neat enough for you. when someone asks a question they want an answer. The next time someone has this sort of question they will have this thread to look over. Thats good...In my opinion. Yours doesnt really matter to me.

You do realize that you are on a forum dedicated to illegal activity? Occupied by vendors who deal illegal drugs by mail, and people who order drugs by mail? Perhaps youve made a wrong turn somewhere...

With the amount of stress that I am put through ordering kilograms of a schedule 1 substance, buying a piece of legitimate machinery seems pretty low on the list. I am thinking long term here and it is not like i need to do this immediately because I'm making money just fine at the moment. However, I am trying to get this done in time for Ultra Music Festival.


and while I am on a divergent tangent....

The largest argument against tableting beyond risk is economic.....
If you invest $3K between press and dies, another few hundred in tableting materials......and up your price by .50 youll have it all paid off in the first few hours of operation....but then youll have to actually move the 10K+ units youve produced...then you have this big heavy machine.....but how often will you really need it?
Even a simple basic press like the tdp-5 produces sooo many tablets that you really have to be making a WHOLE lot for its purchase to make sense.

Even colored capsules only cost fractions of a cent in 1000+ quantities.

Tableting is a big investment....so I doubt this thread will cause a sudden rush of kids making tablets.



I don't think anyone is going to spend 3k+ and churn out fake shitty rolls. The fact that the barrier to entry is so high is what gives tablets credibility. As it is now I can move powder really quick but tablets are a much much higher profit market that stretches much much farther especially in Miami.

The market is there...I just need to get this going. Also this will be quite a boon to be able to provide affordable medium quality rolls to SR folks within the States.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on February 01, 2012, 07:38 am
while we have not transacted, our interactions on board and in pm gives me the impression that you are a competent professional trying to improve as you go along. I respect that.

The biggest argument FOR a press is brand identity. The difficulty and expense of tableting and also duplicating your die makes it hard for the next guy to sell his junk as yours. Almost every RC Ive seen sold in capsules, no matter what color capsule has been used, has after a short while had some kid selling sugar capsules in a club or festival.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on February 01, 2012, 08:12 am
while we have not transacted, our interactions on board and in pm gives me the impression that you are a competent professional trying to improve as you go along. I respect that.

The biggest argument FOR a press is brand identity. The difficulty and expense of tableting and also duplicating your die makes it hard for the next guy to sell his junk as yours. Almost every RC Ive seen sold in capsules, no matter what color capsule has been used, has after a short while had some kid selling sugar capsules in a club or festival.

Exactly...it is something where you can just sell a ton of them very fast because you can make a brand people trust. If I can get some 6-APB rolls then they will be very effective and equally importantly test black. I have tested 6-APB, MDA, and MDMA they all come back black...albeit slightly differently shades of black but black nonetheless.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: demetri on February 01, 2012, 02:57 pm
How do I receive a tablet press?

I see plenty of listings for the TDP-5 on Chinese sites but what would be the best place to send one.

I have a PMB right now and I live in an APT.

Do you think it would be possible to have a 150KG pill press sent to a UPS Store PMB....its sounds pretty sketch. I mean I don't mind opening a PMB in a store in a different town just for the purpose of receiving it. I could pick it up and never using the mailbox again.

If I can get this pill press I can crank out some 6-APB tablet for all you guys on SR as well as locally.

Also could crank out AMT, FOXY, and 2c-b tablets

Why are you so worried about receiving a pill press? It's not illegal to own is it? And besides, you maybe in business making herbal or vitamin pills! You could just describe it as something else on the paperwork..maybe a pottery kiln or a safe or something.. who is going to know looking at the thing if it's presumably covered up and packaged in a box?

I personally wouldn't bother having it delivered to a different address and all the cost and hassle involved..just have it delivered to your normal address.. 150GK is a hell of a weight though to move, I hope you don't live up stairs!
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on February 01, 2012, 03:04 pm
How do I receive a tablet press?

I see plenty of listings for the TDP-5 on Chinese sites but what would be the best place to send one.

I have a PMB right now and I live in an APT.

Do you think it would be possible to have a 150KG pill press sent to a UPS Store PMB....its sounds pretty sketch. I mean I don't mind opening a PMB in a store in a different town just for the purpose of receiving it. I could pick it up and never using the mailbox again.

If I can get this pill press I can crank out some 6-APB tablet for all you guys on SR as well as locally.

Also could crank out AMT, FOXY, and 2c-b tablets

Why are you so worried about receiving a pill press? It's not illegal to own is it? And besides, you maybe in business making herbal or vitamin pills! You could just describe it as something else on the paperwork..maybe a pottery kiln or a safe or something.. who is going to know looking at the thing if it's presumably covered up and packaged in a box?

I personally wouldn't bother having it delivered to a different address and all the cost and hassle involved..just have it delivered to your normal address.. 150GK is a hell of a weight though to move, I hope you don't live up stairs!

I live in an apartment where the mail gets signed for at the front office. I'll just rent a storage unit for a month.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: wowzers on February 02, 2012, 12:23 am
while we have not transacted, our interactions on board and in pm gives me the impression that you are a competent professional trying to improve as you go along. I respect that.

The biggest argument FOR a press is brand identity. The difficulty and expense of tableting and also duplicating your die makes it hard for the next guy to sell his junk as yours. Almost every RC Ive seen sold in capsules, no matter what color capsule has been used, has after a short while had some kid selling sugar capsules in a club or festival.

Exactly...it is something where you can just sell a ton of them very fast because you can make a brand people trust. If I can get some 6-APB rolls then they will be very effective and equally importantly test black. I have tested 6-APB, MDA, and MDMA they all come back black...albeit slightly differently shades of black but black nonetheless.

Sneaky fox. Are you planning on passing 6-APB off as MDXX?? :P
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on February 02, 2012, 02:56 am
while we have not transacted, our interactions on board and in pm gives me the impression that you are a competent professional trying to improve as you go along. I respect that.

The biggest argument FOR a press is brand identity. The difficulty and expense of tableting and also duplicating your die makes it hard for the next guy to sell his junk as yours. Almost every RC Ive seen sold in capsules, no matter what color capsule has been used, has after a short while had some kid selling sugar capsules in a club or festival.

Exactly...it is something where you can just sell a ton of them very fast because you can make a brand people trust. If I can get some 6-APB rolls then they will be very effective and equally importantly test black. I have tested 6-APB, MDA, and MDMA they all come back black...albeit slightly differently shades of black but black nonetheless.

Sneaky fox. Are you planning on passing 6-APB off as MDXX?? :P

Not to you guys of course :D you guys would know in a heart beat the difference between MDA and MDMA.

Locally, that is a WHOLE different story.

I should be good as it comes out black on the Marquis...exactly the same as MDMA.

Also it comes back on the two other tests as MDA :(...but MDA is still generally regarded as being valuable. Most people I know only use Marquis..not the other two. It is quite similar to MDA although it isn't quite as intense as MDA.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: ForeverFamily on February 02, 2012, 05:09 am
while we have not transacted, our interactions on board and in pm gives me the impression that you are a competent professional trying to improve as you go along. I respect that.

The biggest argument FOR a press is brand identity. The difficulty and expense of tableting and also duplicating your die makes it hard for the next guy to sell his junk as yours. Almost every RC Ive seen sold in capsules, no matter what color capsule has been used, has after a short while had some kid selling sugar capsules in a club or festival.

Exactly...it is something where you can just sell a ton of them very fast because you can make a brand people trust. If I can get some 6-APB rolls then they will be very effective and equally importantly test black. I have tested 6-APB, MDA, and MDMA they all come back black...albeit slightly differently shades of black but black nonetheless.

Sneaky fox. Are you planning on passing 6-APB off as MDXX?? :P

Not to you guys of course :D you guys would know in a heart beat the difference between MDA and MDMA.

Locally, that is a WHOLE different story.

I should be good as it comes out black on the Marquis...exactly the same as MDMA.

Also it comes back on the two other tests as MDA :(...but MDA is still generally regarded as being valuable. Most people I know only use Marquis..not the other two. It is quite similar to MDA although it isn't quite as intense as MDA.

Sounds like some very very very angry people in the future...
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: foxymeow on February 02, 2012, 05:57 am
while we have not transacted, our interactions on board and in pm gives me the impression that you are a competent professional trying to improve as you go along. I respect that.

The biggest argument FOR a press is brand identity. The difficulty and expense of tableting and also duplicating your die makes it hard for the next guy to sell his junk as yours. Almost every RC Ive seen sold in capsules, no matter what color capsule has been used, has after a short while had some kid selling sugar capsules in a club or festival.

Exactly...it is something where you can just sell a ton of them very fast because you can make a brand people trust. If I can get some 6-APB rolls then they will be very effective and equally importantly test black. I have tested 6-APB, MDA, and MDMA they all come back black...albeit slightly differently shades of black but black nonetheless.

Sneaky fox. Are you planning on passing 6-APB off as MDXX?? :P

Not to you guys of course :D you guys would know in a heart beat the difference between MDA and MDMA.

Locally, that is a WHOLE different story.

I should be good as it comes out black on the Marquis...exactly the same as MDMA.

Also it comes back on the two other tests as MDA :(...but MDA is still generally regarded as being valuable. Most people I know only use Marquis..not the other two. It is quite similar to MDA although it isn't quite as intense as MDA.

Sounds like some very very very angry people in the future...

Doubtful, everyone I have given 6-APB has been incredibly happy with it. The Tablets in Florida are all a joke anyways. I don't think I can ever take a Meth bomb again. You wouldn't even believe how popular 6-APB rolls would be. Heck, they are sold as 6-APB "pellets" in the UK.

As far as SR goes, they are 6-APB tablets and thats that. I will go on the record saying that any tablet I make will be RC and to assume my tablets are RC.
Title: Re: Receiving a Tablet Press
Post by: N2DEEP on February 02, 2012, 12:20 pm
Tableting machines are illegal under US code title 21 chapter 13 subchapter I part D section 843 paragraph A articles 5,6 and 7. (4 years)

The requirement for VIN plate and registration is imposed on the manufacturer of the equipment. You are not supposed to import a machine without prior notification and licensure. So yeah, if your press gets intercepted youre looking at a maximum penalty of 4 years and up to $50k fine..its far more likely you will just get a restricted importation notice.

As for APB being sold as ANYTHING else....BAD! Dont do it.
 Hell Id have my die stamp APB right on it....maybe a stellated form on the other side...."all points"...playing off the "all points bulletin". Color code by strength.

As youve said, Foxy, its not currently illegal....well possession anyway....Tabletting it this way and selling it would still likely land you in serious trouble....but representing anything as a controlled substance gets you charged as that substance. If your test audiences have been happy with the effects....build on that. Brand your apb. Make sure people know thats what it is.