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Title: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 19, 2012, 04:44 pm
Hey all,

I wanted to ask about anybody else's experience with Aakoven and his packaging?

A friend of mine was recently arrested (admittedly for being caught with his MDMA) but the entire situation occurred because the police (UK here) intercepted an extremely poorly packaged pills order from Aakoven. Now, my friend is facing charges because from what's told me, and what the police told him, the package was basically pills wrapped in newspaper and then packaged, no vacuum pack, nothing. I don't know if this is the norm or what, but it's disturbing. They got a warrant to search his address on the chance that he had more, and they found, obviously, that he did.

But shouldn't be a seller's duty to not cock this up? It's packaging, it's vital. Has anyone else had any bad experiences with AA's packaging? If so, please speak up.

I'm intrigued as to how a top 2% seller would behave so poorly, and now my friend is paying the consequences.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: iCookBaconNaked on April 19, 2012, 07:27 pm
I decided to make this new forum account so that it isn't the same username as my SR account, been on SR for about 2 months. When I first joined SR I ordered 1g of MDMA from several top sellers (4 in total, one of which was aakoven) so that I could compare their products and shipping methods. Out of those 4 top MDMA vendors, aakoven's was the most poorly packaged in the bunch. Now 1g isn't a lot and is fairly easy to ship compared to pills or other bulky substances, so I didn't really think much of it at the time. It was packaged similar to two of the other vendors but was not vacuum sealed, even though it was coming from NL and the others were coming from countries that are said to be "safer". It wasn't the worst packaging I've experienced, but I will not be placing another order off aakoven due to the combination of being from NL and the lack or a vac seal. I have no experience receiving pills from aakoven so cannot comment on his shipping for bigger/bulkier orders.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: wowzers on April 19, 2012, 07:57 pm
I've had a couple of larger orders from Aakoven but it was MD not pills. They were sufficiently packaged, inside sealy bags, inside heat sealed heavy duty foil bags bulked out with the usual stuff. I don't know how heat sealed bags compare with vac sealing but I was happy enough with the packaging & the contents wouldn't have been obvious had the package been torn or damaged.

I've had a couple of horrifically packaged orders from some other NL vendors, once my letterbox at the end of my drive literally stank of MD. I think larger vendors should really think about doing a weekly post from BE or DE, I'd be willing to trade off delivery time for security.

Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: twolips on April 19, 2012, 08:08 pm
I didnt think much because my 100 pills came ok but the packaging was very poor.

plastic baggy taped to news paper. the baggy was so weak it rips when the tape pull on it. that was stuffed inside a padded envelope. so yeah pretty poor for 100 pills.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Trinitron421 on April 19, 2012, 08:25 pm
Jesus, are you kidding me?
I thought the time I got some bud with one vacuum seal wrapped in scented toilet paper from SR Discount Pharmacy (when he wasn't a scammer...) was pretty bad. Wrapped in newspaper with no seal?

Think you guys sealed the deal, next order to Pfandleier then.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 19, 2012, 08:53 pm
Yeah, thanks for coming forward guys.

It's unsettling to see that other people have had these problems.

The fact that he's a top seller, and with some large orders not taken any care, it's a bit disgraceful to be honest, and pretty disturbing.

I mean, the buyer is at such risk if the police happen to poke through the packaging, far more than they need to be.

I wonder how many others have had this problem?
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: queryox on April 20, 2012, 12:20 am
Just thought id add my own experience.

1st Order from aakoven was 1grm ketamine, it was double vac sealed, then heat sealed in a tin foil baggie, then had numerous bulked out "instruction booklet" etc to look like 100% genuine mail, thought it was very good.

Now I think either aakoven has started thinking "fuck it the packages are getting into the UK or whever no problem ill just do it this way", or his is using a new re-packager due to lots of orders?

my 2nd order was some pills ... NL - UK about 10, this time just 10 pills thrown in a baggie taped to a piece of A4 folded paper.. arrived ok was was like hmm..

3rd order was a v large order.. no way personal 100x if you know what I mean, this time was just wrapped in newspaper like 5 times and put in a bubblewrap package, so who knows.. all orders made it but it makes you think, at the start I thought his packaging was TOO much for 1grm it was almost like it was smuggling 100grm, lazyness, too many orders, costs or new re-shipper? Who knows maybe aakoven can answer for us, he is an 100% quality vendor I still think though
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: AJAPAI on April 20, 2012, 12:36 am
i have only ordered bulk and it made it but it was in the newspaper and i dont think it has anything to do with aakoven i think it might be his reshipper.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: endymion688 on April 20, 2012, 01:19 am
@Petrochlaor

Would you mind letting us know how many pills your mate ordered to warrant a search by the old bill?

I only ever order percy, 20 or less, and it would be worrying if you could get a knock at the door from that. If it was a large order I can understand it. Shame on the vendor if his poor packaging lead to the goods getting seized and your friend getting nicked - not on at all!

Cheers
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: dr octagon on April 20, 2012, 01:55 am
It might be an idea to be a little more vague about packaging techniques..... 

Discussion on packing methods has been kept to a minimum on here so far, let's keep it that way.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: alcapone on April 20, 2012, 02:08 am
I believe AAkoven also stated in another thread that "drugs dogs cant smell MDMA"

thats a MASSIVE issue if he thinks that.

A vacuum seal and wipe down of all packages should be mandatory regardless of delivery success.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Gusman17 on April 20, 2012, 02:22 am
I have had 9 orders so far on SR and Aakoven's unfortunately was the worst. No vacuum seal or anything. I don't believe I'll be ordering from him again because of it. It's a shame because his product is AMAZING and the prices are pretty good too. Have an order from SKYY on the way and from what I hear the packaging is great.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 20, 2012, 02:25 am
Please don't discuss details about packaging in this public forum. 

I think the OP's post and gripe are completely legit, but not if it leads to a detailed discussion about specific vendor's packaging methods.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Horizons on April 20, 2012, 02:37 am
I only ordered once from AA but his packaging was great. Not vac-sealed, though. If you're in the UK though, isn't it easier to order from Ivory? His crystal is only slightly more expensive than AA's, but the product is just as good. His packaging is also better, and in your case it'd be a domestic delivery, which is faster and less likely to get caught.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 20, 2012, 08:05 am
i have only ordered bulk and it made it but it was in the newspaper and i dont think it has anything to do with aakoven i think it might be his reshipper.

Disturbing that he takes so little care in getting them reshipped though, isn't it? Bottom line is that these are drugs, not sweets. Seller needs to make sure the buyer is as safe as possible.

@Petrochlaor

Would you mind letting us know how many pills your mate ordered to warrant a search by the old bill?

I only ever order percy, 20 or less, and it would be worrying if you could get a knock at the door from that. If it was a large order I can understand it. Shame on the vendor if his poor packaging lead to the goods getting seized and your friend getting nicked - not on at all!

Cheers

Hey buddy, yeah, it was percy for him too dude. He had five pills in it, they wanted to check so got a warrant. Disturbing really, because it's a small amount and all. But I wonder if they've intercepted similar packages or something, I'm not sure. Yeah, definitely be careful buddy. Though he was nicked for having stuff around, the packaging just catalysed it all, sadly.

It might be an idea to be a little more vague about packaging techniques..... 

Discussion on packing methods has been kept to a minimum on here so far, let's keep it that way.

Oh I'd agree wholeheartedly if the packaging was good. But this packaging has gotten a mate in trouble, I think calling for Aakoven to buck up his standards here is key. People are at risk, mate. And while it might be all fine for the lucky ones, he has a responsibility to keep his buyers safe, and that involves more than newspaper wrapping. If it's a reshipper, it's still his responsibility, I've got to say.

Same to Jimmy245 too, sorry, but this is a major issue. It needs to be improved. It's sad that it isn't top notch, really, because I won't risk a purchase from Aakoven until I know that he's got safe packaging, I'm not risking my arse when there are safer people.

I only ordered once from AA but his packaging was great. Not vac-sealed, though. If you're in the UK though, isn't it easier to order from Ivory? His crystal is only slightly more expensive than AA's, but the product is just as good. His packaging is also better, and in your case it'd be a domestic delivery, which is faster and less likely to get caught.

At the time my friend ordered Ivory was away, that was the only hassle. Otherwise yeah, I totally agree buddy. Just bad timing, really. Ah well.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: andyki on April 20, 2012, 11:00 am
Something about this thread is fishy.

Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Horizons on April 20, 2012, 03:31 pm
Something about this thread is fishy.

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 21, 2012, 02:16 am
Something about this thread is fishy.

Care to elaborate?

fish·y/ˈfiSHē/
Adjective:
1.Of, relating to, or resembling fish or a fish.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Holly on April 21, 2012, 02:40 am
I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills....

My recent bulk pills packs from him were sealed.... it would shock me to not have the gold standard vacuum seal on something like Mdma... damn.  Hope he has a response to this thread.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: funkynuts321 on April 21, 2012, 03:11 am
I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills....

My recent bulk pills packs from him were sealed.... it would shock me to not have the gold standard vacuum seal on something like Mdma... damn.  Hope he has a response to this thread.

Damn Holly, a couple of pills really? Such fucking bullshit they'd waste time and taxpayer money for something so small. Mutherfuckers can pay prostitutes in other countries for some pussy, but wanna tear the walls of someones house down for a personal order.

Talk about contradiction.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: CX on April 21, 2012, 03:30 am
Received 10 grams of his speed past. Packaging was sub standard, not vac sealed. It was a broken baggy inside of another baggy wrapped in layers of tin foil nothing at all imaginative or stealthy, although the letter was inconspicuous looking enough the powder was wet and the envelope reeked  of a very potent chemical smell... Surprised it made it. Won't be ordering from him again. Very risky.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: caffeine_me on April 21, 2012, 05:15 am
I have been a long time "supporter" of AA; long enough to see a progression/digression of packaging techniques.  I would agree that long ago very strict techniques were utilized even with small amounts, but more recent (Even much larger orders) packages are lacking quality control.  Although I would still order from him because my thought process is it is better to get a sketchy package via the UK than an outstanding package via NL; plus he is always on or over weight with the absolute purest MDMA on the planet and he does not dick around with your money.
AA is a veteran, I know he will adjust accordingly to this saddening news of more innocent people finding themselves in a world of shit.  Reminder to have a receiving address clean.  Anything is possible.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: AAkoven on April 21, 2012, 05:52 am
Here the bad guy...
The OP, s story is a bit fishy really for 5 pills..they raid your Friends house , yes it always the friend.

Couple off weeks ago we run out of the iron vac, stuff, then came Easter..end it took a will before he had it .
True off the matter is we did not loose  % more packs  then normal.   :o
But i see many people think it,s important.
We still did it on the bigger 10 gr deals, Or bigger speed deals.

I dont want to put it on the packer or re shipper..Blame me.!   AA = asshole.!!
for the 420 , all  ; 95 %  is again in foil.

We Have now a friend in US customs too..so the arrive rate must go even more up.!

If u are from , US en want 5-10 -25 pills go to  ;  PremiumDutch
he is a cool guy.!

Sorry if i caused any problems ,  :-*

AAkoven   ::)
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Horizons on April 21, 2012, 02:21 pm
Thanks for replying and putting us more at ease! But for those of us not in the USA, you're going to be extra careful with packaging, right?
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: fidocscentral on April 22, 2012, 12:50 am
Im behind caffeine on this one...I love AA he is a stand up guy, but there is always room for improvement.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: valentinesmith on April 22, 2012, 12:11 pm
+1 on the sub-standard packaging.

I ordered some amphetamine from AA about two months ago. The package never arrived. A few weeks later a friend placed an order with AA, and although his package arrived I was shocked at how poor the packaging was. Considering the country of origin, I'm not surprised at all that customs seized my shipment (assuming it was packaged the same way).

I'm not saying it's AAs fault -- after all, he had made no promise about any certain kind of packaging. I guess after buying from other vendors, who all used vac seals and whatnot, I just assumed AA would do the same. Wrong.

Please AA don't take this the wrong way. Your product is top notch and you are very helpful and easy to deal with. I really hope you step up in the shipping department though :).
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 23, 2012, 04:26 pm
The fact is that my friend was arrested for this, and as now I have heard from others, AA's packaging does need to improve.

His product looks great, but I don't think I'll take the risk until I hear better news about the packaging, sadly. 5 Pills might not sound like much, but it did occur, and it has left my friend in a bad state, waiting on the police and their decision. I think it better to assume I'm speaking the truth and improve the quality and standards so that this doesn't occur again, because this isn't a pleasant experience, really. SR truly is a next generation in attaining drugs, but it needs to keep ahead of the police, always.

Cheers for everyone responding, and you too AA for posting. I hope you take this with some seriousness. I know I am.
Title: Re: Aakoven's packaging?
Post by: fasttrip on April 27, 2012, 09:35 pm
I received 2g of AA speed about 2 weeks ago. The product is good, and the shipping time (to EU) it was 4 days.
Nothing complains about the quality and the shipping time. But the package it was not great. Some of the speed was of the zip bag. I cud smell it imidiately after i open the letter. I believe it was a mistake, but this mistake cud make my a problems...
In any case I will order again from AA, because I hope it was only a mistake.
Regardless of this, AA have a great product and fast shipping time.
Thanks AA, and hope you understand my complain   ;).