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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: frogtrap on May 30, 2012, 11:29 pm

Title: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: frogtrap on May 30, 2012, 11:29 pm
I know there are tons of threads about smoking DMT already... :/

I've read up about "the machine", but I was wondering if it would work just as well to use a short, glass chillum that has a deep bowl. I figure if I just fill the bowl about 3/4s with densely packed chore-boy (that I can still draw through, obviously), I'll essentially be making a DMT machine, just replacing the airplane-sized liquor bottle with a chillum, right?

I'm pretty sure I get how to melt the DMT into the mesh and then vape it. My understanding is that I should get the chore-boy mildly hot by basically hitting it with no DMT inside, sprinkle my DMT on the copper and make sure it melts (if not, heat from the bottom/sides of the glass until the copper melts the DMT). Once it's melted, it's "charged", and I'm ready to hold the lighter away from the end of the chillum, and begin sucking the hot air from the flame through the copper, trying to make sure I don't come too close and burn it. I'm assuming it'll take me a couple of hits to get the hang of how far the flame should be to vape and how hot the metal needs to be to melt the DMT, but I got enough for that not to be too big a deal.

I just want to make sure this isn't a retarded idea for some reason I'm overlooking. DMT is a stranger to me, but not for long, I hope.

I want to make sure I'm not going to burn/waste my freebase. Much thanks for any help and apologies for asking a question that I'm sure gets answered a lot around here. I did search the forums for "chillum DMT" and a couple of variations on those terms, but I didn't come up with anything solid. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: CapnJack on May 31, 2012, 12:29 am
I'm waiting for my DMT to come in the mail and from everything I have read "the machine" is the best way to do it.  According to people who have used all sorts of devices, the machine produces the best hits and the least acrid tasting smoke.

The chillum will do the trick but may not be the most efficient way.  Also, if you are using the chillum for other things, you might get a dose of unexpected dmt as well.

For those of you who need instructions on how to make one, here it is:

https://mycotopia.net/forums/attachments/botanicals/67822d1195320961-dmt-pipe-83484machine.jpg
Title: Re: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: frogtrap on May 31, 2012, 01:31 am
Thanks for your reply, CapnJack.

Yeah, I just went and bought a cheap, clear chillum that I'll be only using for DMT, since I can't find any small glass bottles of the type they use to make the machine, and I don't want to shock my unsuspecting pot-head friends with a businessman's trip. ;) (It's a terrible joke, I know...)

I would essentially have the exact same setup as the picture you referenced (that's what I was going for)  but with perhaps a larger mouth (where the copper will be) and a smaller (in diameter, probably the same volume) chamber where the vapor passes through as I hit it.

I suppose I may get a bit more air in my hits, so I can see why the long, skinny-necked bottle would be better. Would that be the only downside to using a chillum this way? I'm not intending to vape directly off of the glass, I'll be using chore-boy copper mesh. I also don't intend to hit it like a chillum with weed in it, just slow, constant drawing so the heat from the flame won't get too close and I won't pull in too much extra air.

Title: Re: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: CapnJack on May 31, 2012, 01:40 am

I don't want to shock my unsuspecting pot-head friends with a businessman's trip. ;) (It's a terrible joke, I know...)


Who knows maybe they will appreciate it (just kidding don't do it)

If you are just using it for dmt then you should be ok.  From what I have been reading, the reason you want to go for a smaller chamber is so the crystals don't condense on the walls as much and you get a better hit.  I went to one of the local head shops today and they had "the machine" for sale and better than I could have made it.  It was a little more than making it myself but it breaths nicely and the holes for filling and inhaling seem to be perfect.  I should have my dmt very shortly and will report back how it works.  Granted I haven't tried it before, but I'll give you the run down how something like this works.
Title: Re: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: DiMiTriSpice on May 31, 2012, 02:00 am
Hi,

My intuition is that it would not work as well. Adding mesh will certainly regulate the temp (more or less) to vaporize the substance, however you won't have a chamber like a traditional machine. This is pertinent as the chamber not only cools the smoke, but also catches a great deal of material that gets pulled through the mesh. I've had the same machine for almost a year - amazing considering I broke half a dozen the year before - and it is completely coated with DMT residue. With a chillum this might end up in your mouth and lungs. How about this: put together a machine with a full sized liquor bottle. A DMT steam-roller of sorts. That could get quite interesting. Ha!
Title: Re: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: DwarfSeeker on May 31, 2012, 03:09 am
Hi,

My intuition is that it would not work as well. Adding mesh will certainly regulate the temp (more or less) to vaporize the substance, however you won't have a chamber like a traditional machine. This is pertinent as the chamber not only cools the smoke, but also catches a great deal of material that gets pulled through the mesh. I've had the same machine for almost a year - amazing considering I broke half a dozen the year before - and it is completely coated with DMT residue. With a chillum this might end up in your mouth and lungs. How about this: put together a machine with a full sized liquor bottle. A DMT steam-roller of sorts. That could get quite interesting. Ha!

yea, i'd be worried you'd get a nice lung full of liquid DMT that didn't manage to vape. getting the vape right is slightly tricky as the range is pretty sensitive, it turns to liquid quickly and if you get too much flame you'll burn it and waste most of it.

you can use the 375ml wine bottles or the mini champagne bottles as a machine pretty easily, a full bottle would be pretty rough I think
Title: Re: Freebase DMT out of a chillum?
Post by: frogtrap on May 31, 2012, 06:08 am
Thanks so much for the information, guys. I didn't realize the chamber was so important, but it makes sense. I also thought it had to be one of those tiny bottles. I'll find something proper then, and once I get a certain package, I'll have everything I need. :)