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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: knotttyboy on September 16, 2012, 07:10 pm

Title: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: knotttyboy on September 16, 2012, 07:10 pm
Hi all,

I have 100 mg of 4-AcO-DMT which was stored in it's small Ziploc in a paper envelope in a larger Ziploc wrapped in a black plastic trash bag in a locked safe for six months.  On inspection today there is no powder just a tarry black film in the baggie.

Anyone seen this before?  Is it a total loss or is it recoverable and or useable?

Peace

KB
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: gestaltassault on September 16, 2012, 07:34 pm
do you live in a humid climate? maybe it got moldy...
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: Trinitron421 on September 16, 2012, 08:37 pm
You got it from Kwiktrip right?

Still just as active. It seems that some batches (i.e. kwicktrip's) are somewhat hygroscopic? Even in a capsule inside an airtight glass container mine also turned to a black spot on the gel-cap. Not sure why it turns black, but I have tested and can say it is still active and fine.
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: painbow on September 16, 2012, 08:40 pm
weird... it happens even if you store it in a air-tight environment?
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: Trinitron421 on September 16, 2012, 08:43 pm
weird... it happens even if you store it in a air-tight environment?

I am a drug nazi. Everything is stored in amber glass airtight containers. It still turned black. I have only had this happen with the stuff I picked up from kwiktrip though.
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: painbow on September 16, 2012, 08:46 pm
weird... it happens even if you store it in a air-tight environment?

I am a drug nazi. Everything is stored in amber glass airtight containers. It still turned black. I have only had this happen with the stuff I picked up from kwiktrip though.

do you also put silica gel packs in there too? 
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: Trinitron421 on September 16, 2012, 09:00 pm
weird... it happens even if you store it in a air-tight environment?

I am a drug nazi. Everything is stored in amber glass airtight containers. It still turned black. I have only had this happen with the stuff I picked up from kwiktrip though.

do you also put silica gel packs in there too?

With capsules, yes.
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: knotttyboy on September 17, 2012, 03:37 am
Thanks for the replies folks!  Glad to know it's still active and that it happens so easily.  I'm afraid I don't remember who I got it from.
Title: Re: 4-AcO-DMT deteriorated to black sludge
Post by: MiddleLeftNostril on September 17, 2012, 09:17 pm
It de-acetylized into Psilocin, and 4-AcO-DMT de-acetylizes over time, more quickly in UV radiation (my guess) and high temperatures (https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_acetoxy_det/4_acetoxy_det_article1.shtml).