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Title: Difference in 2C products
Post by: Walnutst on March 10, 2012, 01:06 am
Was just curious but what is the difference between 2C-B, 2C-I etc. Are there different visual effects? Neurotoxcity? Or is one 2C product better than the rest?

Looking to try a new party drug that doesn't have paranoia as a side affect. Sorry if this is in the wrong topic section.
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: unclesyd on March 10, 2012, 01:58 am
goto erowid.org     or google phikal and thikal, they are available online actually threw erowid I believe.....  but reallly no one should do any of these chemicals without first reading about them in the bibles I just mentioned. 

2c-i is alright  for me not too visual or hardcore untill upper dosages.  I have not done it in years though for me it has lots of body load, and I just did bunches of it and got old. 
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 10, 2012, 03:58 am
I just got some 2C-I and it's the first 2C that I've ever bought.  I haven't tried it yet but I'm excited to see the results.  I'm curious about all of the 2C's. 
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: stolea2269 on March 10, 2012, 04:25 am
I can't recommend 2c-b enough. It's got a very nice body high, some nice visuals, all around very pleasant. It's definitely one of my favorite party drugs. Somewhat like MDMA but without as much speediness (in my opinion).

I don't have much experience with the other 2c's, but I've heard good things about 2c-e.
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: quinone on March 10, 2012, 05:06 am
The magic lies in the 4'  :)
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: stolea2269 on March 10, 2012, 05:12 am
The magic lies in the 4'  :)

As in like, 4-AcO?
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: towelie on March 10, 2012, 05:39 am
The magic lies in the 4'  :)

As in like, 4-AcO?

I believe he means the 4-bromo
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: Walnutst on March 10, 2012, 06:01 am
Any information on neurotoxicity? Is the comedown smooth. How long is the high before comedown. Have a 6 hour concert in the far future I need to prepare for lol
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 10, 2012, 06:05 am
I just posted this in Drug Safety but I need an answer very quick.

I just got my scale and I'm pretty sure I didn't know what the fuck I was doing and messed up.  "I Think" I just took like 40mg of 2C-I?  How fucked am I?  I'm a little scared right now. 
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: krut on March 10, 2012, 02:53 pm
Any information on neurotoxicity? Is the comedown smooth. How long is the high before comedown. Have a 6 hour concert in the far future I need to prepare for lol

I've been searching for information on neuro-toxicity as well, but there is not much to be found. I don't know if you can make any assumptions?
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: quinone on March 10, 2012, 05:41 pm
The magic lies in the 4'  :)

As in like, 4-AcO?

Nah I mean the 4' position on the phenyl moiety of a phenethylamine analog.  It's what's attached here that confer's activity, 2C-I has an Iodine atom at the 4', 2C-B has a bromine.  MDMA has a ... structure stabalized methylenedioxy moiety.
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: TheNewDude on March 10, 2012, 08:17 pm
I just posted this in Drug Safety but I need an answer very quick.

I just got my scale and I'm pretty sure I didn't know what the fuck I was doing and messed up.  "I Think" I just took like 40mg of 2C-I?  How fucked am I?  I'm a little scared right now.

LOL.

You'll survive.

But why do you think you took 40mg?

How big was the pile?

Size of a dime? half a dime? nickel size? etc.
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: ianfleming on March 10, 2012, 09:24 pm
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Was just curious but what is the difference between 2C-B, 2C-I etc. Are there different visual effects? Neurotoxcity? Or is one 2C product better than the rest?

Looking to try a new party drug that doesn't have paranoia as a side affect. Sorry if this is in the wrong topic section.

2c-i is the best. It has very little body load for most people. No paranoia, and unlike many psychedelics its near impossible to have a bad trip because it also makes you happy. It just sort of pushes away bad feelings.

I don't believe there are any big studies on nurotoxicity, BUT, people have been using 2c-i and B for many years and have reported no long term side effects. I'd say for starting go with 2c-i as it's a nice amalgamation of all the 2c-x chemicals, not too visual, not too much of a body load, not too long of a trip. Also, 2c-i has a nice level of mental acuity so you can think fairly logically if need be.

It definitely makes a great party drug. Just be careful, your eyes will be HUGE so people can tell your a little fucked. I also find personally that while I'm on it, I just don't care who knows that I'm high (which can lead to problems).


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Any information on neurotoxicity? Is the comedown smooth. How long is the high before comedown. Have a 6 hour concert in the far future I need to prepare for lol

The comedown is VERY smooth, unless your REALLY sweating it out. I find if I'm INCREDIBLY active then it seems to end quite abruptly. Otherwise it's VERY smooth and gentle. The length depends on dose and what 2c-x your using, 2c-i is about 6 hours total (including the 2 hour come up). But, I find that if you take 10-15 and then bump it with a 5mg booster at the 2 hour mark (right as you start to trip) then you can extend it to around 7-8 hours total (it adds and hour or 2).

I don't really notice any after effects. I get up the next day and feel fine.


Quick note, while on 2c-i greasy food will make you feel ill, also it's best to do it on an empty stomach. Lastly, DO NOT take 2c-i if you are on wellbutrin or you WILL have a seizure.
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 11, 2012, 02:01 am
I just posted this in Drug Safety but I need an answer very quick.

I just got my scale and I'm pretty sure I didn't know what the fuck I was doing and messed up.  "I Think" I just took like 40mg of 2C-I?  How fucked am I?  I'm a little scared right now.

LOL.

You'll survive.

But why do you think you took 40mg?

How big was the pile?

Size of a dime? half a dime? nickel size? etc.

I feel like such a dumb ass.  The problem is the scale I bought seems to be off or I'm just not reading it right?  I've always been horrible with science type shit.  The size was probably about the size of Nickle.  The weird thing is, it didn't do anything to me.  The only thing I can assume is that I took a Dilaudid earlier in the day and maybe that stopped it from working?   
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: TheNewDude on March 11, 2012, 02:04 am
I just posted this in Drug Safety but I need an answer very quick.

I just got my scale and I'm pretty sure I didn't know what the fuck I was doing and messed up.  "I Think" I just took like 40mg of 2C-I?  How fucked am I?  I'm a little scared right now.

LOL.

You'll survive.

But why do you think you took 40mg?

How big was the pile?

Size of a dime? half a dime? nickel size? etc.

I feel like such a dumb ass.  The problem is the scale I bought seems to be off or I'm just not reading it right?  I've always been horrible with science type shit.  The size was probably about the size of Nickle.  The weird thing is, it didn't do anything to me.  The only thing I can assume is that I took a Dilaudid earlier in the day and maybe that stopped it from working?   


A nickle sized pile would be a shit ton of 2c-x....

I remember you saying that you took a good amount of MDMA and didn't feel anything either... Maybe it was methylone, I forget.

Anyhow -- are you on any kind of anti-depressants?

A nickle sized pile... Wow. :\
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 11, 2012, 03:14 am
I just posted this in Drug Safety but I need an answer very quick.

I just got my scale and I'm pretty sure I didn't know what the fuck I was doing and messed up.  "I Think" I just took like 40mg of 2C-I?  How fucked am I?  I'm a little scared right now.

LOL.

You'll survive.

But why do you think you took 40mg?

How big was the pile?

Size of a dime? half a dime? nickel size? etc.

I feel like such a dumb ass.  The problem is the scale I bought seems to be off or I'm just not reading it right?  I've always been horrible with science type shit.  The size was probably about the size of Nickle.  The weird thing is, it didn't do anything to me.  The only thing I can assume is that I took a Dilaudid earlier in the day and maybe that stopped it from working?   


A nickle sized pile would be a shit ton of 2c-x....

I remember you saying that you took a good amount of MDMA and didn't feel anything either... Maybe it was methylone, I forget.

Anyhow -- are you on any kind of anti-depressants?

A nickle sized pile... Wow. :\

I've been off of anti-depressants for 3 weeks.  I was on them since 1996 but that should be enough time for them to be out of my body I would think.  Yeah, I took 200mg of MDMA and didn't feel anything and had the same situation with taking Mushrooms.  I've taken 2 1/8s over the past few months and no reaction.  Although I took shrooms about 4 or 5 years ago and for the first time and had an amazing trip.  I have some shrooms that I got this week that people are reviewing are really good.  I plan to take them within the next few days and hoping for a nice trip.   
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: ianfleming on March 11, 2012, 03:36 am
Wait another 3 weeks, then take 15mg of 2c-i wait 2 hours and take a 10mg booster. Stay at home, don't do anything stressful.
I'm SURE you'll have a nice, fun trip.
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: i3lazd on March 11, 2012, 12:28 pm
tried 2c-b it was pretty dope.


What 2c has the best visuals?

What 2c is most smooth? Less sick feeling?
Title: Re: Difference in 2C products
Post by: jollygiant on March 11, 2012, 01:30 pm
2c-e