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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Mister Dank on November 22, 2011, 06:58 pm

Title: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 22, 2011, 06:58 pm
I think that a lot of vendors on this site ARE cops. Here's why:

I know I've been repeatedly stung by fake buyers. First one buys from me, a guy like williamgates, to find out what P.O. I'm sending out of. Once they have that nugget of info, an LE buyer under another name, like Diss0lve, will ask for large quantities and make an order, notifying the post office to look for his address. Then the package for no good reason just disappears with no tracking info when on usps.com.

Now, I've sent out plenty of packages that DO make it and the tracking is on the site and everything. There is literally NO WAY for a group of my packages to be intercepted UNLESS the Post Office has prior knowledge from the buyer. The cops have a huge incentive to sell on here - they can bust and make money at the same time. Also, when packages do disappear on me, they're usually to places that LOOK like cop neighborhoods (upper middle class, like Agrestic in Weeds).

So right now I'm only doing small amounts, so I can do full refunds for anyone who's package disappears, and then never do business with them - or anyone else who's been refunded. I'm still getting the LE troll constantly re-editing my feedback to play games, but at least he's outing himself. And hopefully, SR will do the right thing and delete williamgates account and also end the craziness of never-ending feedback edits.

So who are the cops selling on SR?? The ones who aren't having these problems. The "everything is just rosy" mother fuckers on here who claim to NEVER lose packages or have trolls. The ones who admonish other sellers for ever getting bad feedback.

With all the competition on here, there are always going to be people trying to hit and run others feedback - it's a mathematical certainty that someone is going to try to. So when someone says they're having no issues, you'd be crazy to not be suspicious.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: rise_against on November 22, 2011, 08:06 pm
i used to get really paranoid when i smoked weed also
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 22, 2011, 08:08 pm
My paranoia has less to do with weed than it does with the fact that America has more people working in government than in the private sector. USA is a whole nation of snitches.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: rise_against on November 22, 2011, 08:21 pm
A NATION OF PIGS
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: exodusultima on November 22, 2011, 09:16 pm
I think that you can take it as a given that LE is here. There is too much shit here that really pisses them off (think heroin and meth). I think sellers need to operate with the assumption that any order they send out may be going to an evidence locker somewhere.

The other thing I think is that when they move, they'll move in force, without warning, and bring down everyone they have gathered evidence on and tracked over time. Think pre-dawn raid, except via the internet.

And when you say "Cops buying weed, cops as vendors" don't be naive -  I think that should read "DEA Special Agents working in a task force with FBI Cybercrime experts and a Dept Homeland Security special taskforce coordinated by an ICE central command".

Don't kid yourself, once they triangulate you and gather enough info to attack, it will be sudden and brutal.

So don't give them enough info to do that.

Just my 2cents, whatever it's worth.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: uniwiz on November 22, 2011, 09:26 pm
Sure glad I'm not high today.

Not that I disagree.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: phubaiblues on November 23, 2011, 01:23 am
Operating on the assumption that LE is here is one thing...but I think we need to be really careful, and show some restraint when pointing the finger at specific people.  Often people are just new or inexperienced, or simply playing by the rules, and just like on the streets, I would never want to put that kind of 'jacket' on an innocent. 

Most places I've been, it's the very worst kind of gossip, and always to be avoided.  I've been ripped off by a seller on here, and I would never call him out as LE, as it isn't right, and accomplishes nothing.  Also, it can be a form of crying 'wolf' and we want to make sure we have credibility, just in case the wretched day ever comes, where we actually are confronted with LE.  And want to warn our fellows. 

I'm often concerned that LE would establish a fake vendor's account, just to harvest and bust a bunch of buyers, but unless I am certain that this had occurred, I would not accuse.

Got to have a bit of street ethics, until we get all this sorted out.  OF course I protect myself, but I also presume good will on the other end, unless proven different.  I never want to let paranoia or bitterness over bad transactions, make me point the finger falsely at another.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: exodusultima on November 23, 2011, 02:07 am
Hey phubaiblues - totally agree. re-reading my post above I guess I sound a bit like a prophet of doom and really cynical and paranoid ... I'm not. I have logged some miles on the silk road at this point, and have had a great travel experiences and met some like minded, good hearted people.

I guess after some reflection, I just really want this trade route to stay open. I know there are people reading this message right now who would love to lock me in a cage and throw away the key, and I just want to remind my fellow travelers and trading partners ... stay vigilant; you're smart and you're innovating our culture, don't let small minded people crucify you for simply implementing the inevitable.

This is the silk road. This is an evolution of an idea that began when a small fishing village in China saw a trading vessel from a distant land on the horizon 3000 years ago, and welcomed them to shore.

Good luck and godspeed.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: lrp72 on November 23, 2011, 02:25 am
Sure glad I'm not high today.

Not that I disagree.

Me too.  This thread gives me the willies.  Not that I disagree.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: rake on November 23, 2011, 02:31 am
You don't have to go into a Post Office to post a letter or parcel, just make sure you have accurate scales and a postage calculator website.  What ever price the calculator comes up with, add 10% to it just in case.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: oppyate on November 23, 2011, 02:41 am
Fear is when you know imminent danger is upon you. Paranoia is an ongoing perception of and imaginary Fear. At some point, if not already, SR is going to become very main street. Some Senator will want to be the hero that brought down SR, some 15 year old guy will figure out how to become a Billionaire off SR & Bitcoins...so at some point SR will have to be 2.5 steps ahead to keep this ship going. Napster was totally illegal, yet Wallstreet poured millions in. If it's about enough Money, be it taxes or something offshore..you can beat these fuckers.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: deniedwings on November 23, 2011, 02:43 am


I'm often concerned that LE would establish a fake vendor's account, just to harvest and bust a bunch of buyers, but unless I am certain that this had occurred, I would not accuse.


I dont think LE is posing as a vendor, because I dont think they are all that interested in busting small time buyers.  Plus, in order to collect much information they would have to establish a reputation as a good seller in order to get people to buy from them, and in order to get a good reputation they have to send out quality product.  LE is in a tough spot there.  With the fall out from the whole "fast and furious" scandal the BATF got in I dont see law enforcement sending out actual drugs. 

The threat to SR comes from bitcoin itself, I really hope you sellers are being very very cautious with turning BTC into cash. 
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 23, 2011, 03:02 pm
Diss0lve is indeed sketchy, this is not paranoia.

He is, indeed. I'd like to know your experience with him.

And when you say "Cops buying weed, cops as vendors" don't be naive -  I think that should read "DEA Special Agents working in a task force with FBI Cybercrime experts and a Dept Homeland Security special taskforce coordinated by an ICE central command".

Duh. Do I sound that naive? I understand that there aren't local "cops" on this, its federal, but I use "cops" as a blanket term since they're really all the same - they're all scum. "FBI Cybercrime experts" is laughable anyway since anyone who is an "expert" is too smart to work for government - unless they mean "experts at bullshit and theft".

Operating on the assumption that LE is here is one thing...but I think we need to be really careful, and show some restraint when pointing the finger at specific people.  Often people are just new or inexperienced, or simply playing by the rules, and just like on the streets, I would never want to put that kind of 'jacket' on an innocent. 

Most places I've been, it's the very worst kind of gossip, and always to be avoided.  I've been ripped off by a seller on here, and I would never call him out as LE, as it isn't right, and accomplishes nothing.  Also, it can be a form of crying 'wolf' and we want to make sure we have credibility, just in case the wretched day ever comes, where we actually are confronted with LE.  And want to warn our fellows. 

I'm often concerned that LE would establish a fake vendor's account, just to harvest and bust a bunch of buyers, but unless I am certain that this had occurred, I would not accuse.

Got to have a bit of street ethics, until we get all this sorted out.  OF course I protect myself, but I also presume good will on the other end, unless proven different.  I never want to let paranoia or bitterness over bad transactions, make me point the finger falsely at another.

phubaiblues, when you make a statement like that, you come off as one of the cops yourself. Someone who's actually on here breaking the law has a healthy paranoia and WANTS to identify cops. Everyone, myself included, should be scrutinized. The people I mentioned are not "new" or "inexperienced" - they're bonafide scammers and I've laid out why in another thread.

Also, a lot of cops are on here to make money, probably more so than to get a list of buyers. The CIA and US military has been in the heroin trade for decades.

I've been anti-authoritarian my whole life. Even as a teen, I knew there was something rotten about the powers that be. I could see it in the child-like behavior of anyone who works for tax dollars, from school admins to cops. I've lived a long and full life and I KNOW even from an email conversation the difference between someone who grifts for a living and a government parasite as easily as you know an apple from an orange. They're two very different mind sets. I'm gonna out people like 'Diss0lve' every time because I KNOW that a real drug dealer wouldn't go on this site and ask a guy with a low feedback score to send a qp on their first order. Not to mention he gave me an address for an office building right next door to a post office.






Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: threatminor on November 23, 2011, 03:09 pm
i used to get really paranoid when i smoked weed also
lol
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: dotmed on November 23, 2011, 07:08 pm
Entrapment hardly exists in the legal world.  You would have to prove that LE coerced you into doing something illegal that you wouldn't have done without the coercion.  They can legally put unlocked cars on streets corners in the ghetto with the keys in the ignition and legally bust anyone taking the bait.  They can put a hot cop in skimpy clothing on the streets, have her show you her tits and negotiate a blow job.  Even if you say 'no thanks' and she drops the price to $1.50 and you go for it, you're busted and that's still not entrapment.

LE is infamous for provoking people into violence and then PROVIDING bomb making equipment that these people had no avenues of getting otherwise, then LE busts them for terrorism.  If that's not entrapment, putting a listing on SR is no where near entrapment.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: over_done_soup on November 23, 2011, 08:57 pm
Diss0lve is indeed sketchy, this is not paranoia.

He is, indeed. I'd like to know your experience with him.

i have sent you a pm Mister Dank.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: E=daveC² on November 24, 2011, 05:23 am
Everything is doomed eventually. SR must adapt or perish. No bail outs for the weak here. The tea party should love how we operate. No big government and an unregulated boom-bust economy, with guns, and lots of people they can use to populate the prisons.

Without the war on drugs many jobs will be lost. Prison guards, law enforcement at every level, and most of the 3 letter agencies would be cut among others. We are the real job creators. Where's my tax break?

The government selling drugs online could open them to lawsuits. If I order H from a phony vendor and my son accidentally eats it and dies they would be in a world of shit. People dying might be the catalyst that gets SR taken down too. Underage kid orders dope and ODs. Every news station will latch onto the story and politicians who hours ago didn't know silk road existed will be out with torches and pitchforks demanding SR be shut down.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: exodusultima on November 24, 2011, 08:01 am
The government selling drugs online could open them to lawsuits. If I order H from a phony vendor and my son accidentally eats it and dies they would be in a world of shit. People dying might be the catalyst that gets SR taken down too. Underage kid orders dope and ODs. Every news station will latch onto the story and politicians who hours ago didn't know silk road existed will be out with torches and pitchforks demanding SR be shut down.

We had a laser pointed at us (us = SR) for about a week by a Senator (or two?) who had a meeting with the FBI director insisting that we be shut down (I'm referring to the gawker article a few weeks ago, etc). Typical political posturing, perfectly rehearsed outrage a la "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" type nonsense spouted off to settle down the soccer moms or whatever the fuck you call middle class stay-at-home moms these days.

Yet we grew and no one as far as we know (Silk Road the sysop and creator may know) was arrested. No one was made an example of. And the site got better and more efficient. There were enhancements. There is variety and a vibrant community ... it's erowid but with an inventory. There's idiots here of course, cuz there's idiots everywhere. but there's very, very smart people here. Creative innovative organic chemists, smoke farmers who have perfected thc, origami artists who can make a fistful of powder disappear into a regular size envelope indistinguishable from a Verizon bill or birthday card from grandma.

So, my question to the k-K00l 3l1t3 who work as network administrators, or the sysops who are web application developer experts and datacenter security professionals is ... can they do it? can they stop us? Can LE divert resources from protecting our national data infrastructure from coordinated, sophisticated, well funded tactical attacks from nation states like china, russia, and who the fuck ever and stop us if they really, really, really wanted to?

I mean besides DDoS of course. But that's so boring and doesn't stop us permanently.

Anyone know? I mean really know, not guess based on paranoia and an article you read in Wired last month. Can the NSC get my real IP right now if they're willing to divert processing resources to do it?
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: phubaiblues on November 24, 2011, 04:43 pm

You are so correct.  If we stopped the WOD (war on drugs) tomorrow, unemployment would exceed 30% almost immediately.

Absolutely, and other than Ron Paul, I don't know any politician willing to say anything so honest and obvious: all you have to do is study the rise of private prisons in the US, at the same time they began the strengthening of Prison Guards unions.  Schwartzenegger actually tried taking them on when he first came into office in California, then lost heart for the battle, when he realized just how powerful they are: they can make or break any politician, and--no surprises here--have powerful lobbys in favor of law-enforcement. 

Sadly, often, the police themselves realize this.  They are forced into supporting out-dated nixonian 'war on drugs' laws which have done nothing except make criminals out of huge segments or our population.  Legalizing or at least de-criminalizing drug use is not to their(prison guard unions) financial advantage, as full prisons mean full lifetime employment for these bozos. 

It's pretty much too late for this country...and a bit of our own karma that we should finally be destroyed by the cartels that are swarming up here, as we've sat by and watched as our own policies have destroyed first Colombia, and now Mexico.  We need to get a little of our own back, I believe...

It's such a wretched system we've created.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 25, 2011, 09:15 am
This thread is mostly supposed to be about cops posing as buyers on here to screw competition.

So far I know of two confirmed LE buyers: williamgates and Diss0lve.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: MagicMan on November 25, 2011, 08:41 pm
This thread is mostly supposed to be about cops posing as buyers on here to screw competition.

So far I know of two confirmed LE buyers: williamgates and Diss0lve.

I've heard that those buyers were sketchy, but I haven't seen the evidence (granted I didn't look too hard) that would confirm them as LE, how were they confirmed?
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 26, 2011, 12:25 am
There's plenty of evidence in the way they conduct themselves. No real dealer asks a vendor he's never worked with to sell a half pound right away, then calls the vendor paranoid when they won't.

Furthermore, I send packages to friends all the time no problem, then suddenly, when some sketch asshole asks for a package (Diss0lve) it disappears with no tracking info??

Then, he gives me a 3 of 5 after I gave him a full refund?? He should be trashed just for that!!
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: MagicMan on November 27, 2011, 05:25 pm
There's plenty of evidence in the way they conduct themselves. No real dealer asks a vendor he's never worked with to sell a half pound right away, then calls the vendor paranoid when they won't.

Furthermore, I send packages to friends all the time no problem, then suddenly, when some sketch asshole asks for a package (Diss0lve) it disappears with no tracking info??

Then, he gives me a 3 of 5 after I gave him a full refund?? He should be trashed just for that!!

Yes, he should definitely be trashed for being a dick buyer but that does not necessarily mean that he is LE
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Cgault on November 27, 2011, 05:46 pm
Fed LE is seeding the site with either bot sellers that just collect addresses, or they are seeding with task force buyers that are just harvesting evidence from postmarks and packaging. bet on it.

However, its not all bad as it seems. There is no way, without breaking the Tor encryption and any PGP in the messages you use, that they can close the loop. I feel it is most likely that locals will not be acting as they cant get both end of the buy. The pheds and TLA are just doing enough to say to the Lawmakers (Schummer) "hey look at this, a list of names (fake) and buyers ) (tiny buys, unknown intent and questionable as to evidence if the buyers are smart).

I will say it again : Total SR economy is perhaps....30M, and that's a stretch. Tiny orders, private parties, difficult cross jurisdictional cases work ups. Very tough to justify when you are allocated a 6 billion dollar budget just for Blackhawks to Columbia and Mexico cartel war.

OTOH: There are sellers here that could, could, maybe have a bullseye - I am thinking of one emeritus seller we all love who has a tag line to the effect, of "I sell a lot of Oxy's" Hey Mr. DDro!!!!!! Him we don't have to lose sleep over.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 28, 2011, 12:38 am
There's plenty of evidence in the way they conduct themselves. No real dealer asks a vendor he's never worked with to sell a half pound right away, then calls the vendor paranoid when they won't.

Furthermore, I send packages to friends all the time no problem, then suddenly, when some sketch asshole asks for a package (Diss0lve) it disappears with no tracking info??

Then, he gives me a 3 of 5 after I gave him a full refund?? He should be trashed just for that!!

Yes, he should definitely be trashed for being a dick buyer but that does not necessarily mean that he is LE

No, Diss0lve is definitely LE. There is more evidence that can't be posted in the forum like his address, which turned out to be in an office building across from a post office. I've also gotten confirmation from other vendors.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: dutchshop on November 28, 2011, 04:26 am
I read everything in this topic.. ::)...about LEO ...and other topic ..one thing what i know is that at this moment is that all the topics provide information for the LEO.What i mean in example if LEO know nothing and  want to know or do something  the only thing what have to do is ...READ.. :(.

Short : To Much info (history) or ideas about how the silkroad system and process works here between buyers or vendors.........................TO MUCH INFO AND THAT IS DANGEROUS FOR US ALL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before i started to be a Vendor here i studied ONE BOOK very careful .

ART OF WAR
Sun Tzu

I know your game.....LEO.... ;).

"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."

Greets DutchShop,
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Cgault on November 28, 2011, 04:53 am
There is a balance to be struck between a well informed community in matter of procedure and security and technology, and secrecy.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on November 28, 2011, 07:03 am
I read everything in this topic.. ::)...about LEO ...and other topic ..one thing what i know is that at this moment is that all the topics provide information for the LEO.What i mean in example if LEO know nothing and  want to know or do something  the only thing what have to do is ...READ.. :(.

I may have read this wrong since I'm guessing English isn't your first language?..but it seems you are trying to say that we shouldn't explain scams because LE will pick up on it.

That really doesn't make sense. LE is already doing the scam and I'm making the community aware so other vendors don't fall for the same things.

It really isn't that complicated. One cop has to make a first purchase to establish where you're mailing from, then they can order again and give that PO a heads up to look for your package. I know that's what happened to me because the tracking info never showed up on the USPS site at all, and there is NO possible way that package would have been flagged, even if it had been x-rayed. THAT, coupled with his shady behovior, location, and the confirmation of other buyers means 'Diss0lve' a an LE pig, and so is 'wiiliamgates'.

FYI, neither of these scumbags will even try to defend themselves on here, even though they wrote in their feedbacks that they read what I wrote on the forum.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: dutchshop on November 28, 2011, 03:18 pm
This also happens to my and that is what i mention with ...LEO i know your game.

F*** LEO  ;D

Greets DutchShop,


I read everything in this topic.. ::)...about LEO ...and other topic ..one thing what i know is that at this moment is that all the topics provide information for the LEO.What i mean in example if LEO know nothing and  want to know or do something  the only thing what have to do is ...READ.. :(.

I may have read this wrong since I'm guessing English isn't your first language?..but it seems you are trying to say that we shouldn't explain scams because LE will pick up on it.

That really doesn't make sense. LE is already doing the scam and I'm making the community aware so other vendors don't fall for the same things.

It really isn't that complicated. One cop has to make a first purchase to establish where you're mailing from, then they can order again and give that PO a heads up to look for your package. I know that's what happened to me because the tracking info never showed up on the USPS site at all, and there is NO possible way that package would have been flagged, even if it had been x-rayed. THAT, coupled with his shady behovior, location, and the confirmation of other buyers means 'Diss0lve' a an LE pig, and so is 'wiiliamgates'.

FYI, neither of these scumbags will even try to defend themselves on here, even though they wrote in their feedbacks that they read what I wrote on the forum.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Puzzle on February 19, 2012, 06:29 am
the last person i sold shrooms to never replied to any of my messages. unlike any of my other buyers.
I gave him his DCN and everything still no reply.
3 days later his package arrives, and he took over a week to finalize, and i politely asked him to finalize promptly.

he FINALLY finalizes. and leaves me some bad feedback. (good communication, but WEAK product. 7G didnt even make me trip.) WTF!? REALLY!?

now my next order is from diss0lve....
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on February 19, 2012, 08:03 am
I didn't read every reply to this topic, but I thought law enforcement can't sell drugs? Especially not via the United States Postal Service, is that not a federal offense? I mean they could pretend to sell drugs, get your address, and then come kick your door down and haul you away I suppose, but they can't actually send anything, yeah?
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: citizen on February 19, 2012, 09:51 am
My paranoia has less to do with weed than it does with the fact that America has more people working in government than in the private sector. USA is a whole nation of snitches.

Fucking idiot. America has at most 20% of the workforce in the public sector:

hxxp://wiki.answers.com/Q/List_number_of_us_employees_private_sector_vs_public_sector

Dank - some of your concerns are valid. But you are a fucking dipshit like the rest of your right-wing libertarian brethren. It's not even worth engaging with your political arguments until you get your god damn facts right.

You all think America was some kind of paradise of 'hard-working grifters' before the evil 'government' stepped on it? Ever heard of slavery? Know anything about poverty and illiteracy in nineteenth century America?

Learn some fucking history dudes. It was the corporations that stole our freedom with the growth of monopolies at the end of the nineteenth century. The growth of 'government' was just an afterthought. Some of it is just tools of the corporations. Some of it is the only mechanisms we have to stop poor communities from getting totally fucked up the ass by the rich.

Of course the rich WANT you to believe that it is not them but the 'government' that is your enemy. Because if you don't believe that, who is going to end up having to pay a hell of a lot more in taxes? You? No idiot - it's Donald Fucking Trump. But you're happy to just let him keep his, and let the corporate interests keep running the country (including the drug war), just so long as you're proud an' free cowboy. Which you're not. Because the rich took your freedom. And blamed it on the government. And you beleived them.

Freedom yes. Libertarianism yes. End the the drug war - hell yes. Cognitive liberty for all - hell yeah. Even guns? - yeah, if they make you happy.

But bullshit ultra-republican tea-party propoganda? GTFO.

Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: unbiased on February 19, 2012, 12:44 pm
You don't have to go into a Post Office to post a letter or parcel, just make sure you have accurate scales and a postage calculator website.  What ever price the calculator comes up with, add 10% to it just in case.

A little off topic, but I read that this is a red flag on the package; contraband is often shipped with too much postage.....because they want to make sure.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: midas on February 19, 2012, 01:45 pm
I don't want to enter into politics and I'll try to stay on topic.

LE vendors? I see no reason to catch an ounce user. Now let's say they become a reputable seller and gather loads of buyer's addresses. What are they going to do with such addresses? Bust them all at once? Start intercepting all mail from them?
I don't think it's possible or feasible to arrest many SR buyers at once.

IMHO opinion the risk is for the seller. They can create dozens of new accounts on SR, start buying from one seller and see from which Post Office they've sent the package. I don't know how it works in US, but do they put an electronic stamp on the package? It is possible for the LE check when the electronic stamp was placed on the letter and look for camera recordings for that specific minute and trace a profile? Later check with ISPs who in that are is connectiong thru TOR.
For a small package can a seller simply put it inside some box and later an employee send the package (with a bunch of other mails)?

There's no way to control buyers (could be a seller competitor, a scammer, LE or even a troll).
For sellers (IMHO), the best thing to do is to go to as much different post offices as possible and put the package in the box without talking to a clerk (can you do that in US?) and parking in a place with no cameras. And always use crowded post offices.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Shinma on February 19, 2012, 05:49 pm
I didn't read every reply to this topic, but I thought law enforcement can't sell drugs? Especially not via the United States Postal Service, is that not a federal offense?

Selling guns to known Mexican drug gangs is a Federal offense, too.  Didn't stop the ATF from doing just that.

Laws don't apply to the Government. They are quite literally above their own laws.  Laws only exist for "little people."  Not even the rich are judged the same as the peasants.

Yes, LEO's sell.  They provide drugs, guns, child pornography... it's a huge business for them. Has been for decades.  They make money and get their arrests.   And they'll often let these crimes go on for years, as they're looking for sources.  They'll nab the occasional street vendor here and there who's being a problem, but they're after the bosses.   And they don't give a damn what 'laws' have to be broken to get them.

I don't see them going after little buyers, though, unless they've also got some other local criminal history or are otherwise a pest that needs to be silenced. Or made an example of by a prosecutor during an election year looking to show how "tough" they are on this newfangled interwebs drug trade.

Anyone buying more than personal amounts, perhaps... since "dealer" busts look great in the papers.    They're not going to call a 4-AM paramilitary raid on some Joe buying 1/8ths of brick to get stoned on weekends. Especially not in states that have decriminalized. Traffic-ticket fines don't justify that kind of show of force.   They'll just seize packages, and maybe put a nice love-letter in the envelope.  Your average buyer is going to shit himself, and lose their hard-earned money in the process. 

The guy ordering a pound or more at a time looking to be the next neighborhood supplier?  They definitely establish themselves as "dealers" to nab these guys. That shit has even happened locally. 
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Angelology on February 19, 2012, 07:23 pm
I think that a lot of vendors on this site ARE cops. Here's why:

I know I've been repeatedly stung by fake buyers. First one buys from me, a guy like williamgates, to find out what P.O. I'm sending out of. Once they have that nugget of info, an LE buyer under another name, like Diss0lve, will ask for large quantities and make an order, notifying the post office to look for his address. Then the package for no good reason just disappears with no tracking info when on usps.com.

Now, I've sent out plenty of packages that DO make it and the tracking is on the site and everything. There is literally NO WAY for a group of my packages to be intercepted UNLESS the Post Office has prior knowledge from the buyer. The cops have a huge incentive to sell on here - they can bust and make money at the same time. Also, when packages do disappear on me, they're usually to places that LOOK like cop neighborhoods (upper middle class, like Agrestic in Weeds).

So right now I'm only doing small amounts, so I can do full refunds for anyone who's package disappears, and then never do business with them - or anyone else who's been refunded. I'm still getting the LE troll constantly re-editing my feedback to play games, but at least he's outing himself. And hopefully, SR will do the right thing and delete williamgates account and also end the craziness of never-ending feedback edits.

So who are the cops selling on SR?? The ones who aren't having these problems. The "everything is just rosy" mother fuckers on here who claim to NEVER lose packages or have trolls. The ones who admonish other sellers for ever getting bad feedback.

With all the competition on here, there are always going to be people trying to hit and run others feedback - it's a mathematical certainty that someone is going to try to. So when someone says they're having no issues, you'd be crazy to not be suspicious.
Right. Because I couldn't buy weed using your address. You still have plausible deniability.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: randomovdbuser on February 19, 2012, 08:21 pm
I don't know about the US, but in Europe, entrapment = no case for LE, no lawsuit. Period.
I also like to believe SR's server(s) are not located in the US. That would be uhmz just plain s-t-u-p-i-d.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Oscar on February 21, 2012, 05:28 am
If LE is really posing as vendors they'd be playing an extremely risky game.  Imagine if someone overdosed and died on the gear they were selling, weather it be coke, h, oxys or what have you. Talk about shit storm. I think the liability would be far too great for that. On the other hand I do think that LE is trying to build a case to bring down a whole lot of SR vendors and buyers.  Not sure how they'll do it, but I don't think posing as reliable vendors selling hard drugs would be a tactic. Just my two cents
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: midas on February 21, 2012, 03:38 pm
Imagine if someone overdosed and died on the gear they were selling, weather it be coke, h, oxys or what have you.

They could simply stick to marijuana. Have you seen someone die by weed overdose?
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Oscar on February 21, 2012, 07:07 pm
No I agree, I was just saying other than selling weed, I don't think they'd sell anything else.  I'm not sure how many people buy their buds on SR, but I would imagine that it only make up a fraction of the buyers
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: DizeLibre on March 11, 2012, 02:12 am


I'm often concerned that LE would establish a fake vendor's account, just to harvest and bust a bunch of buyers, but unless I am certain that this had occurred, I would not accuse.


I dont think LE is posing as a vendor, because I dont think they are all that interested in busting small time buyers.  Plus, in order to collect much information they would have to establish a reputation as a good seller in order to get people to buy from them, and in order to get a good reputation they have to send out quality product.  LE is in a tough spot there.  With the fall out from the whole "fast and furious" scandal the BATF got in I dont see law enforcement sending out actual drugs. 

The threat to SR comes from bitcoin itself, I really hope you sellers are being very very cautious with turning BTC into cash.

couldn't LE setup a vendor account AND buyer accounts then build up feedback/reputation without shipping anything? of course, SR would get their $commission$ during this process so that's not a bad deal. but the occasional legit buyer that shops with this high rep LE vendor wouldn't get such a good deal.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: morningRain on March 11, 2012, 02:32 am
I read everything in this topic.. ::)...about LEO ...and other topic ..one thing what i know is that at this moment is that all the topics provide information for the LEO.What i mean in example if LEO know nothing and  want to know or do something  the only thing what have to do is ...READ.. :(.

Short : To Much info (history) or ideas about how the silkroad system and process works here between buyers or vendors.........................TO MUCH INFO AND THAT IS DANGEROUS FOR US ALL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before i started to be a Vendor here i studied ONE BOOK very careful .

ART OF WAR
Sun Tzu

I know your game.....LEO.... ;).

"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."

Greets DutchShop,

Alternatively, one might choose to read Edward Luttwak’s "Coup d’Etat: A Practical Handbook".
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 05, 2012, 05:34 pm
I don't know about the US, but in Europe, entrapment = no case for LE, no lawsuit. Period.
I also like to believe SR's server(s) are not located in the US. That would be uhmz just plain s-t-u-p-i-d.

ugh..for the umpteenth time - LE isn't going after buyers, they are going after vendors to shut them down and STEAL their products at the same time for resale.

I'll explain it a second time. ALL top rated vendors on here are LE. They buy from other vendors to discover what P.O.(s) you're sending from. Then they have another LE buyer buy from you while at the same time alerting the Post Office to the package.

example: buyer Pigfuck orders a gram of weed from you, gets it and discovers you shipped from Smallville. LE Buyer Shitbag then tries to order as much as possible from you (more to steal) and lets the Smallville P.O. know to look for his package and take it out of delivery so you never get DCN info. Buyer Shitbag then gets your shit from the Smallville P.O. and writes you that he never got your package. You have no DCN info so you're screwed and buyer Shitbag ruins your feedback score - essentially putting you out of business.

Now, buyer Shitbag becomes vendor SmellslikeRoses and resells your shit on here or elsewhere.

The main advantage is that LE can coordinate with the Post Offices - you can't. If you live in a big city you can fuck this process up by using multiple post offices. Not so easy if you live in a rural area though.


Oh, and if you commented on here that cops don't sell drugs - you're either as naive as a little girl, or you're a fuckin pig yourself.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: uniwiz on April 05, 2012, 06:45 pm
Well at least I now understand your theory.
Seems like a lot of work, and different organizational co-operation would be needed.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 05, 2012, 06:55 pm
Well at least I now understand your theory.
Seems like a lot of work, and different organizational co-operation would be needed.

One postal inspector could play all of the roles involved.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: uniwiz on April 05, 2012, 09:49 pm
Well at least I now understand your theory.
Seems like a lot of work, and different organizational co-operation would be needed.

One postal inspector could play all of the roles involved.
Wouldn't they need DEA, and local police?
Also you would think postal inspectors are having other issues right now.
They are dismantling the whole USPS system.
So this guy would spent a good potion of the day on SR?
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: phubaiblues on April 05, 2012, 11:04 pm
A little common sense goes a long way toward combating paranoia on here.  If you really get worried, just find a young lawyer, and pay for an hour of consulting time, and ask them about this.  From a legal standpoint, I've had an attorney tell me that LE would play help proving any of these silly cases on here.  IF they set themselves up as vendors, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you ordered anything, and that this specific package was *your* order, and that you used bitcoin...explain bitcoin to a jury ha ha, and where how...the case would never make it out of discovery.

Just be sensible, stay smalltime, and don't talk late at night in bars, and all will be well.  We've gone quite some time now without any of the predicted craziness coming down...
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 05, 2012, 11:15 pm
A little common sense goes a long way toward combating paranoia on here.  If you really get worried, just find a young lawyer, and pay for an hour of consulting time, and ask them about this.  From a legal standpoint, I've had an attorney tell me that LE would play help proving any of these silly cases on here.  IF they set themselves up as vendors, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you ordered anything, and that this specific package was *your* order, and that you used bitcoin...explain bitcoin to a jury ha ha, and where how...the case would never make it out of discovery.

Just be sensible, stay smalltime, and don't talk late at night in bars, and all will be well.  We've gone quite some time now without any of the predicted craziness coming down...

Hey Captain Strawman! Go back and read my post. At NO time did I state " they set themselves up as vendors, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you ordered anything". I said they set themselves up as vendors to sell drugs. ENGLISH, DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT!!
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: mdmamail on April 06, 2012, 01:44 am
There is zero incentive for LE to do this unless they are selling precursors and manufacturing equip otherwise why would they give a shit about a few grams. That won't get them the gold DEA star.

I'd be more worried about people exchanging money on this site, that's a better way to catch a seller.
Armory is a whole different game though. Could see ATF hiding RFID in the shipments.. but only to other Americans why would they care about Euro or Canadian shipments, they never have before.


Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Ammy2Argen on April 06, 2012, 02:46 am
"THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" type nonsense spouted off to settle down the soccer moms or whatever the fuck you call middle class stay-at-home moms these days.

stay at home moms? ya they might pitch a tent but the insane i need to resort to laws in order to govern my child school teachers and administrators are who's thinking warps my head. and LE. for they are the elite class. Mo Money Mo Coercion, Mo saying mo is bad Mo saying force is not to be tolerated. I hate those people.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: hatedpatriot on April 06, 2012, 06:26 am
Damn my head hurts.

Thinking about DutchShop's reference to the art of war, I'm reminded of the 6th rule, I believe it was; never press a desperate foe. When it comes to war, the one with the most leverage is the one who is more willing to do whatever it takes. This is why you don't press a desperate foe. A desperate foe has less to lose, therefore is more willing to do the things that seem reprehensible or immoral. One might argue that the government is the desperate foe here, but I think it is us, the oppressed, who are desperate.

I can only speak from the viewpoint of an American, but here in the states, the government has been eroding our human rights at an exponential rate since the passage of the patriot act.  We American's have less to lose everyday. As laws become more far reaching and more invasive to our basic human rights, ie it's getting harder and harder for people with chronic pain to get the medicine they need, illegal plants that God gave us all etc, we are being pushed ever closer to revolution. When the financial system finally buckles under it's own weight, the last spot of soft sand for us Americans to bury our heads in will be gone. At this point, we will take our country back or die trying.

The government knows this just as well as I do. I seriously doubt that any real effort is being spent on SR to further a war that has not only lost all credibility, in the domain of public opinion, but also diverts attention and funding from the new war, the war against ideals. Not saying that there are no cops on SR, I'm sure there are a few, but I think just being cautious will keep you away from them. Don't forget that the governments of the world that have been the most successful in oppressing it's people have been masters of propaganda. It's easier for them to let you believe they are the almighty hand than it is to actually be the almighty hand.

I don't think OP's scenario is completely far fetched, but that sounds to me like something a well funded police department would do, not the feds. The police in Cali buy tanks and helicopters, they can pull off something like this with their budget, and that sounds like a cops thinking as well; abuse of position to further themselves at the cost of the very citizens they are meant to protect.

If any leo is reading this, you should get a real job and leave the dirty immoral profession you have chosen. The American people are about to have nothing else to lose.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: simplyanon on April 06, 2012, 07:05 am
I'm way too high for this.

If the cops wanna kick my door in for buying some bud, they can feel free. Hell, just knock. I'll toke with some LE.

On the other hand, my house is fort knox: Suburbs edition.

LE Selling, buying to bust sellers, then take out the source and resell their product.

I need another bowl. My head hurts.

Just remember, ladies and gents. III%.

Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 06, 2012, 04:58 pm

LE Selling, buying to bust sellers, then take out the source and resell their product.


I wonder how hard it would be to find 10 stories about cops selling drugs they've confiscated. I know a Sheriff in Colorado who just got busted using confiscated meth to buy blowjobs. They made a big deal about it, but its pretty typical.

I think its pretty lame that there are those on here who think that only a well funded police organization could do such a thing. If I was a postal inspector, it would take maybe 20 minutes of my time to rob you and no money of my own.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: goodguy on April 06, 2012, 05:46 pm
Damn my head hurts.

Thinking about DutchShop's reference to the art of war, I'm reminded of the 6th rule, I believe it was; never press a desperate foe. When it comes to war, the one with the most leverage is the one who is more willing to do whatever it takes. This is why you don't press a desperate foe. A desperate foe has less to lose, therefore is more willing to do the things that seem reprehensible or immoral. One might argue that the government is the desperate foe here, but I think it is us, the oppressed, who are desperate.

I can only speak from the viewpoint of an American, but here in the states, the government has been eroding our human rights at an exponential rate since the passage of the patriot act.  We American's have less to lose everyday. As laws become more far reaching and more invasive to our basic human rights, ie it's getting harder and harder for people with chronic pain to get the medicine they need, illegal plants that God gave us all etc, we are being pushed ever closer to revolution. When the financial system finally buckles under it's own weight, the last spot of soft sand for us Americans to bury our heads in will be gone. At this point, we will take our country back or die trying.

The government knows this just as well as I do. I seriously doubt that any real effort is being spent on SR to further a war that has not only lost all credibility, in the domain of public opinion, but also diverts attention and funding from the new war, the war against ideals. Not saying that there are no cops on SR, I'm sure there are a few, but I think just being cautious will keep you away from them. Don't forget that the governments of the world that have been the most successful in oppressing it's people have been masters of propaganda. It's easier for them to let you believe they are the almighty hand than it is to actually be the almighty hand.

I don't think OP's scenario is completely far fetched, but that sounds to me like something a well funded police department would do, not the feds. The police in Cali buy tanks and helicopters, they can pull off something like this with their budget, and that sounds like a cops thinking as well; abuse of position to further themselves at the cost of the very citizens they are meant to protect.

If any leo is reading this, you should get a real job and leave the dirty immoral profession you have chosen. The American people are about to have nothing else to lose.

It is my understanding that Australia and the United Kingdom are also heading down this route maybe slower so there could be a chance for LE and the big wigs in power to redeem themselves but i doubt it.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 06, 2012, 05:54 pm

I don't think OP's scenario is completely far fetched, but that sounds to me like something a well funded police department would do, not the feds. The police in Cali buy tanks and helicopters, they can pull off something like this with their budget, and that sounds like a cops thinking as well; abuse of position to further themselves at the cost of the very citizens they are meant to protect.

If any leo is reading this, you should get a real job and leave the dirty immoral profession you have chosen. The American people are about to have nothing else to lose.

My theory is that people who work in government tend to be people who grew up with a sense of entitlement and never had to really earn their way, so getting a job with no accountability to the customer is a natural fit for them. A lot of cops are from cop families too, and they have sense of superiority that we are just here to be their slaves.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: hatedpatriot on April 06, 2012, 09:47 pm
I totally agree that the postmaster will steal your shit if he knows what it is and he's any sort of pliable in his morals. But this is a far cry from a concerted effort, on the part of the federal government, to commandeer and resale drugs. It would be akin to Pablo Escobar taking cocaine from street level dealers to resale to those just one rung about street level. The CIA and DEA are no doubt engaged in drug trafficking. I think it would be naive to assume they are not. But, they are involved in a much larger way, busting buyers or vendors on SR would not be to their benefit. Us users are, after all, their end customer.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 06, 2012, 10:14 pm
I totally agree that the postmaster will steal your shit if he knows what it is and he's any sort of pliable in his morals. But this is a far cry from a concerted effort, on the part of the federal government, to commandeer and resale drugs. It would be akin to Pablo Escobar taking cocaine from street level dealers to resale to those just one rung about street level. The CIA and DEA are no doubt engaged in drug trafficking. I think it would be naive to assume they are not. But, they are involved in a much larger way, busting buyers or vendors on SR would not be to their benefit. Us users are, after all, their end customer.

Trying to bust people on here wouldn't be so much to their benefit, but being a big vendor on here would. And stealing other vendors' products would too.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: hatedpatriot on April 06, 2012, 10:31 pm
It would be for a smaller faction, but not thne federal government as a whole, or on the level that the DEA or CIA would be involved. It's just to far beneath them. That net billions now from international drug trade, I'd be willing to wager. A few hundred thousand or even million from SR would be more trouble than it's worth.

I'm not saying leo doesn't do this type of thing because I know they do, just not on a huge fed level in this instance.

I was riding around Detroit with my dope connect a couple years back. We were pulled over by a narcotics unit. I had just came out of the coney island there at Telegraph and Chicago, I could barely walk. Homeboy had some fire that day. Anyway, we get down the road a way and I'm already noddin heavy as fuck. I hear him say "Damn narco is pullin us over man, wake up". Cops searched us, took his weed, gave him back hundreds of pain pills, xannies and cash and gave me back my dope (about a point) and a whole bag of works with one used lol.

They just needed some bud and knew which car to stop.

True fuckin story.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 06, 2012, 10:53 pm
It would be for a smaller faction, but not thne federal government as a whole, or on the level that the DEA or CIA would be involved. It's just to far beneath them. That net billions now from international drug trade, I'd be willing to wager. A few hundred thousand or even million from SR would be more trouble than it's worth.

I'm not saying leo doesn't do this type of thing because I know they do, just not on a huge fed level in this instance.

I was riding around Detroit with my dope connect a couple years back. We were pulled over by a narcotics unit. I had just came out of the coney island there at Telegraph and Chicago, I could barely walk. Homeboy had some fire that day. Anyway, we get down the road a way and I'm already noddin heavy as fuck. I hear him say "Damn narco is pullin us over man, wake up". Cops searched us, took his weed, gave him back hundreds of pain pills, xannies and cash and gave me back my dope (about a point) and a whole bag of works with one used lol.

They just needed some bud and knew which car to stop.

True fuckin story.

My point exactly...and a postal inspector is about the same level as a street cop in terms of pay and could definitely supplement his income working this site.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: hatedpatriot on April 06, 2012, 10:59 pm
Good, then we agree :))
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: bobby on April 08, 2012, 01:07 am
Well I would be inclined to believe that on a site that sells meth, crack, and heroin, recreational amounts of marijuana would be of the least priority to LE. This is just my opinion, but you never know.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Limetless on April 10, 2012, 07:49 am
You clearly are LEO Dank. "Ship puff without vacuum sealing...yeah it's the way forward to not get caught." Your advice you tool. I mean it's not that unvacuumed shipments would be way easier for anyone who could be looking for illegal drugs, like say, the police, customs or any other variation of those agencies to find would it? Oh hold on a second....yeah it would wouldn't it?

I suggest you go and buy yourself 2 slices of thick white bread, some butter and maybe a dollop of tomato sauce and put your BACON self in between that mixture. Pig.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Caparino on April 10, 2012, 08:11 am
You clearly are LEO Dank. "Ship puff without vacuum sealing...yeah it's the way forward to not get caught." Your advice you tool. I mean it's not that unvacuumed shipments would be way easier for anyone who could be looking for illegal drugs, like say, the police, customs or any other variation of those agencies to find would it? Oh hold on a second....yeah it would wouldn't it?

I suggest you go and buy yourself 2 slices of thick white bread, some butter and maybe a dollop of tomato sauce and put your BACON self in between that mixture. Pig.

It all makes sense now... Thank you Limitless, please fuck my bitch.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Limetless on April 10, 2012, 08:15 am
Send her over and I shall give her a thorough seeing to. :)
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: cacoethes on April 10, 2012, 04:20 pm
Yes, cops can sell drugs.

Yes, federal agents can "walk" guns into Mexico.

What I haven't seen mentioned is securing the chain of evidence.  The fact that federal agents walked guns into Mexico only became an issue when those guns were LOST, and then an agent was killed by one of the same guns.

When cops sell drugs, those drugs, and the recipient, can be followed, tracked, monitored, whatever you want to call it, in order to obtain MORE EVIDENCE.  Otherwise, an arrest is made on the spot, and then the cops turn the screws to get that person to roll, cooperate, and inform.

Arbitrarily selling and mailing high potency drugs to random people by LE serves no purpose whatsoever, and at the same time endangers public safety.  Once those drugs are mailed, there is no admissible evidence whatsoever unless it can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that said drugs were indeed received, and furthermore, actually ordered, by the recipient- and this cannot happen unless the chain of evidence remains intact from the time the drugs are mailed to the time the drugs are received- hence the concept of a "controlled delivery".

Now, using operation "Fast and Furious" as an example, what kind of shit storm would be created if LE purchased, and subsequently resold, a generous amount high quality Afghani #4, which then caused the deaths of a 12 year old kid and two of his friends who happened to pick that particular package out of their neighbors mailbox during a random act of mischief?

No secure chain of evidence.  No reasonable attempt to ensure public safety.  No extra-departmental cooperation.  Only the DEATHS of a couple of kids to show for their efforts.  Such a scandal would eclipse operation Fast and Furious by several orders of magnitude.

Yes, LE can break the law in their attempts to "enforce" the law.  But they have to tread very, very carefully in order to be able to actually USE THAT EVIDENCE to secure a conviction in a court of law.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 10, 2012, 11:56 pm
You clearly are LEO Dank. "Ship puff without vacuum sealing...yeah it's the way forward to not get caught." Your advice you tool. I mean it's not that unvacuumed shipments would be way easier for anyone who could be looking for illegal drugs, like say, the police, customs or any other variation of those agencies to find would it? Oh hold on a second....yeah it would wouldn't it?

I suggest you go and buy yourself 2 slices of thick white bread, some butter and maybe a dollop of tomato sauce and put your BACON self in between that mixture. Pig.

Wow...can you give me a link to where I said that? You can't. Because you just lied. I ship weed in a hard container that is then vacuum wrapped. that prevents the weed from getting crushed and conceals the weed better. All the "top" vendors on here claim to just vac the weed itself, smashing the shit out of it.

You lie just like a pig.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Lights Out on April 11, 2012, 03:41 am
I feel like there is the possibility that LE are active on SR. However, I doubt that LE is spending time opening weed vendors and setting people up for weed. I also doubt that LE is ordering decent amounts of weed then having it seized.
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Limetless on April 11, 2012, 04:25 am
You clearly are LEO Dank. "Ship puff without vacuum sealing...yeah it's the way forward to not get caught." Your advice you tool. I mean it's not that unvacuumed shipments would be way easier for anyone who could be looking for illegal drugs, like say, the police, customs or any other variation of those agencies to find would it? Oh hold on a second....yeah it would wouldn't it?

I suggest you go and buy yourself 2 slices of thick white bread, some butter and maybe a dollop of tomato sauce and put your BACON self in between that mixture. Pig.

Wow...can you give me a link to where I said that? You can't. Because you just lied. I ship weed in a hard container that is then vacuum wrapped. that prevents the weed from getting crushed and conceals the weed better. All the "top" vendors on here claim to just vac the weed itself, smashing the shit out of it.

You lie just like a pig.

Lol whatever Dank, you are the one with the thread with the poll with people voting to have you banned from here lol. Says it all really....
Title: Re: Cops buying weed, Cops as vendors
Post by: Mister Dank on April 11, 2012, 03:00 pm

Wow...can you give me a link to where I said that? You can't. Because you just lied. I ship weed in a hard container that is then vacuum wrapped. that prevents the weed from getting crushed and conceals the weed better. All the "top" vendors on here claim to just vac the weed itself, smashing the shit out of it.

You lie just like a pig.

Lol whatever Dank, you are the one with the thread with the poll with people voting to have you banned from here lol. Says it all really....

So you can't provide the link - admitting you're a liar - but instead change the subject to some newb (who's probably you) starting a poll?

You sound desperate...