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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: fxtrademark on May 03, 2012, 06:53 am
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Hey guys :)!
What would i need to do to prove im legit?
Maybe synth 1g of LSD, and sell it, on SR to get feedback on the quality and service, and build prestige so the community will know im not a fraud or da agent?
Since im looking into making LSD then selling it in bulk, that way i could sell more, as well as it being cheaper for the bulk buyer, then a re-seller could up mark it and sell it from there.
What would a bulk buyer pay for 1G of LSD?
1Gram of LSD would equal something around 10,000 hits correct?
A hit of LSD here seems to go for $8?
If i wholesale that for $2 per hit, and sell 1G of LSD for $20k per 1 gram and make 3G of LSD the minimum, would anyone here be interested in buying?
Thanks for reading :)
Hoping to get some replies from you guys 8)
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you should break it up, it will sell faster if you do it that way if you sold vials for a very reasonable price it will be easier for you to sell and you will make more money, but hey i'm interested.
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This sounds like an awesome way to end up in jail. Seriously go read up on TFM and other shit going on man. Either your LE or way unprepared to start doing what your about to start doing...
LSD synth will put you behind bars for the rest of your entire life... don't even think about meeting contacts on here.
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How do condensation of lysergic acid & diethylamine? What dehydrating reagent?
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he has a point, if your gonna do it don't tell anyone, then just sell it like a normal seller. But we all would love cheap lsd!!!
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This sounds like an awesome way to end up in jail. Seriously go read up on TFM and other shit going on man. Either your LE or way unprepared to start doing what your about to start doing...
LSD synth will put you behind bars for the rest of your entire life... don't even think about meeting contacts on here.
I see your point and understand completely.
But no im not le.
Yes i understand that it will, it is a huge risk, i would not have the first clue on meeting contacts anywhere else, since im no drug lord i wouldnt have a clue on how to get contacts in the drug business, and im not that kind of guy to hang with gang bangers etc.
Well thanks for your reply, ill see how it goes.
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he has a point, if your gonna do it don't tell anyone, then just sell it like a normal seller. But we all would love cheap lsd!!!
Thanks for replies donut.
I see that would be the best option in that case to be an individual seller.
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2nd year student with no connects, however can get Ergotamine tartrate and lysergic acid amide.
Either this kid has no idea what he is talking about, or, this kid has no idea what he is talking about.
2/10 for making me reply, twice.
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I pmed you!
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2nd year student with no connects, however can get Ergotamine tartrate and lysergic acid amide.
Either this kid has no idea what he is talking about, or, this kid has no idea what he is talking about.
2/10 for making me reply, twice.
Well your first question wasn't worded clearly.
No i cant get Ergotamine tartrate of the shelf, but i can synthesize it myself from, since that's the only option.
And the same for lysergic acid amides will have to be synthesized, not bought, i never said i'll be buying the precursors, since thats not an option.
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LSA is easy to get just buy a shit ton of Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and do an extraction, you can order some strong ass ones from basement shaman on the regular web. he is safe and will sell in bulk!............Obviously i really want cheap acid! lol
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LSA is easy to get just buy a shit ton of Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and do an extraction, you can order some strong ass ones from basement shaman on the regular web. he is safe and will sell in bulk!............Obviously i really want cheap acid! lol
Yes i was considering doing that before i started cultivating ergot, but fester states that a small amount of HBWS cost a lot for small amounts which is true, and that people who sell those seeds could potentially be a front operation, so i didnt take that chance.
"The reason why ergot is superior to growing morning glory seeds or
woodrose seeds is that these seeds have a considerable amount of
another type of alkaloid in them besides the ones that yield lysergic
acid."
- Fester
But yeah man i'll get you the cheap acid, the good thing about LSD is that a small amount of ergot can generate large amounts of LSD.
I could make enough in a few months and sell it over a year or 2.
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Once again, this kid has no idea what he is talking about.
Fester... really? Please tell me you didn't just quote that moron. If you are really using his method, and you are starting now, you wouldn't have a commercial quantity realistically within 12 months if you started now...
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Once again, this kid has no idea what he is talking about.
Fester... really? Please tell me you didn't just quote that moron. If you are really using his method, and you are starting now, you wouldn't have a commercial quantity realistically within 12 months if you started now...
Teach me.
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Once again, this kid has no idea what he is talking about.
Fester... really? Please tell me you didn't just quote that moron. If you are really using his method, and you are starting now, you wouldn't have a commercial quantity realistically within 12 months if you started now...
Teach me.
Don't want to be responsible for your ergot poisoning. There's plenty of other people who could teach yo.. oh wait there isn't considering there are approx only a dozen cooks in the whole of the United States.
2nd year student... hahaha im so sorry brother but I just found this fucking hilarious.
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A. I would if you were a chemist experienced in this synthesis with a legit lab setup but your setup sounds far to risky and sketchy sorry dude.
B. Please don't sell crystal LSD on here it is far too potent. Crystal is not something to be fucked with, my advice is to try and find someone who has performed the synthesis before and learn from them. Also, find someone experienced in laying sheets and sell them the crystal.
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i think this guy is still on lsd lol get it on paper and get the testers out lol and we will all run round fucked up lmao
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Hey, I think everyone is being a bit too rough on this guy. Maybe I just love LSD too much but I would definitely be interested in working with this guy.
At least he is being honest about his process etc....
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You are a biochemist who doesn't have the precursors and reagents needed for a LSD synthesis. As such you are only of use to someone who has those (and a lab).
Produce a few grams, document the route and enjoy the money but until then ...
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Ok I'm gunna pick this apart.
1. BIO chemistry and ORGANIC chemistry are two completely separate fields of chemistry. BIO chemistry focuses on diseases/viruses/bacteria/the behavior of living tissue and living things. I know this because my friends mother is one. ORGANIC chemistry is how to make drugs. You can't just jump from one to the other. It doesn't work that way. I know a chemist on here and work with chemists soooo yeah. Doesn't smell like fresh linens to me.
2. LSD-25 is EXTREMELY unstable. Please explain to us how you are going to transport those quantities without degradation and your client losing half your purchase. For anyone making an investment in such a large quantity they need to be ensured that their product is going to arrive in tact.
3. IF you can make LSD-25 in those quantities why are you offering it on just to sell in grams when you could lay sheets and make vastly more money? Also laying sheets is going to be much safer as they look like paper.
4. Why should anyone trust you when you just pop up out of nowhere and you have no rep here? You are making big claims here and you haven't set up any sort of sellers account, not mentioned escrow or any trading policies.
5. Given that you have no rep here, why would any drug dealer buying LSD in those sorts of quantities want to give you an address that they could be traced to?
I smell scam or Gammon and to be frank...I suspect Gammon.
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Maybe we need a new category, Scammon?
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Lim pretty much covered everything I was too lazy to type out.
and if somehow you do manage to produce something, please don't vend crystal on here. It should be handled by people who have been shown how to handle it.
-Z
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While I agree that the initial post is fishy, I would like to address some points you've made.
1. BIO chemistry and ORGANIC chemistry are two completely separate fields of chemistry. BIO chemistry focuses on diseases/viruses/bacteria/the behavior of living tissue and living things. I know this because my friends mother is one. ORGANIC chemistry is how to make drugs. You can't just jump from one to the other. It doesn't work that way. I know a chemist on here and work with chemists soooo yeah. Doesn't smell like fresh linens to me.
Laboratory skills would be more important than the field of study. He's not developing a novel route, he's following written instructions in TiHKAL (for example). People have made LSD without being chemists. Knowledge today is more accessible than ever.
2. LSD-25 is EXTREMELY unstable. Please explain to us how you are going to transport those quantities without degradation and your client losing half your purchase. For anyone making an investment in such a large quantity they need to be ensured that their product is going to arrive in tact.
Amber glass container with argon or nitrogen. I haven't seen any data studying stability of crystalline LSD. Why would be less stable than an ethanol solution (let's say both are in an amber tube) ? And even that ain't that fragile.
"Starting with pure LSD, the conversion to iso-LSD is attained at temperatures above 37 degrees C and pH levels over 7.0. At a pH of 7.0 or higher, the LSD/iso-LSD ratio of 9:1 is achieved after one week at 45 degrees C or two weeks at 37 degrees C. Starting with iso-LSD, the conversion to LSD requires more vigorous conditions. The 9:1 LSD/iso-LSD ratio is attained only after 6 weeks at a temperature of 45 degrees C and a pH of 9.7. At lower pH levels, the reaction proceeds more slowly."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9323531
I understand people have been saying how fragile LSD is for like forever but some proof instead of hippie tales would be nice.
3. IF you can make LSD-25 in those quantities why are you offering it on just to sell in grams when you could lay sheets and make vastly more money? Also laying sheets is going to be much safer as they look like paper.
Selling 1g - 1 chance of something going wrong
Selling 100 sheets - 100 chances of something going wrong.
With 1g going for 10-20K, one run being 5g or more I think it's foolish to be greedy and try to sell sheets for "vastly more money". WOW (white on white) blotters would be easier to sent but why bother with paper at all.
4. Why should anyone trust you when you just pop up out of nowhere and you have no rep here? You are making big claims here and you haven't set up any sort of sellers account, not mentioned escrow or any trading policies.
5. Given that you have no rep here, why would any drug dealer buying LSD in those sorts of quantities want to give you an address that they could be traced to?
On point.
zubic09, what's with the elitist view ? Why do we have to learn this stuff from some old hippie named Autumn ? Who are "they" to give out crystal handling stamps of approval ?
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not so much elitist, mostly coming from a harm reduction viewpoint. Honestly its a personal viewpoint, I wouldn't want to be responsible for laying sheets myself. If he honestly manages to produce LSD more power to him. The world could do with more good hearted people producing lucy, but I think that it would work out much better for everyone if fairly priced sheets were sold here instead of mass amounts of crystal. Again, just a personal opinion I don't mean to come off as an elitist asshole, sorry to OP if I did.
-Z
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You make a fair point on the stability issues and yeah, it could be stored safely in that way. However there is another problem when storing it in amber-glass method it is going to be shit hard to ship an amber vial like that through normal methods and it's going to an absolute ballache to disguise unless you know what you are doing.
I'm still calling Scam or Gammon or even potentially Scammon as someone else said lol.
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60,000 for 3 grams is fucking expensive too. Considering that the price of sheets will probably eventually stabilize at around 400$, a reseller would have to move 300 units just to double up (not even factoring in the SR/laundering fees). I think you would do much more business selling at 12,000-14,000$ for a single gram.
fxtrademark, even if you could do a proper synth, keep in mind that there is still a large learning curve in becoming a seller here. As an LSD manufacturer, you will need to be able to secure your online activity, package/ship, launder money/cash out, etc. with a HIGH degree of sophistication. It really sounds like you have no clue what you're getting into.
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It really sounds like you have no clue what you're getting into.
It sounds to me that the OP is talking balls.
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This reminds me of a thread I wanted to make, but decided against.
Why in the serious fuck is there no liquid LSD on SR..? None. At all. Sell that shit in medium sized to small shipments. I'd be on that like a fat kid on cake.
If you're fat and take offense to that, fuck you.
If you're cake and take offense to that, I'm sorry, I love you.
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I agree, why is there no vials on here? We want vials, we want vials, we want vials!!! just kidding :D No seriously though we want vials!!!! :)
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It really sounds like you have no clue what you're getting into.
It sounds to me that the OP is talking balls.
Haha that too.
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really interested...
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The knowledge of organic chemistry needed to synthesize LSD is minimal. I know, because I have taken organic chem. The real problem is how in the hell you plan on making your own ergotamine tartrate. Uncle Fester is NOT a reputable source to be taking instruction on ergot culture from. Good luck on the endeavor and I hope you are successful.
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Please do not vend LSD Crystal on SR.
Please do not synthesize LSD if you don't know or have someone of great trust who knows exactly what he is doing
LSD crystal should only be handled by those who respect the drug and are worthy of the crystal not just a teenager who can turn his financial aid money into whatever he likes.
I dislike very much the way LSD is handled these days. Very few respect it like it should be imo.
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definitely watching this post
20k for a gram of lsd....
How do you propose you escrow that?
I've got money for crystal, but there's no way in hell I'm buying it online.
You CAN'T sell that much of a product in one swoop. You need local connects with cash. Not people on the Internet who claim "THE PRODUCT WAS NEVER DELIVERED". An online escrow process isn't going to keep anyone truely protected when we're dealing with 10, 20, 30, 40+ thousand
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I agree. SR's escrow service is not exactly optimal for a transaction that large. Perhaps you could split it up into several small shipments of .1g and receive 2k$ at a time? When it comes down to it though, the people that sell large quantities usually deal with a trusted group of people that they know wont lie and say they never received. This way there is less worry of being scammed and no need for an escrow service. I dont think SR is the best place to sell crystal L though. It might be better to just drop it all on blotter and sell 10k hits.
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LOL at this thread.
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If you're going to dream, dream big 8)
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hah 20k a gram is a retarded price, swiss kristal of grey quality can be had for 10k a gram, and pink and amber for even less, 5-8k and thats in USDollars.
Though if you made a gram i doubt you could sell it for more than 5k a gram, as it will at the most be 50-60% pure, not talking trash, but LSD synth requires several runs before you get your recipe down, and a 50% yeild your first time out would be exceptional.
but yea, if you "really" make some lsd crystal, then im sure it would be sold quite quick around here... even if it was crappy if the price was right =p
i wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole though ;)
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i agree with this guy ^^^^^^^^
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Though if you made a gram i doubt you could sell it for more than 5k a gram, as it will at the most be 50-60% pure, not talking trash, but LSD synth requires several runs before you get your recipe down, and a 50% yeild your first time out would be exceptional.
First time synthesis (or anything else basically) can be difficult but chromatography and in-depth preparations go a long way.
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I think the op is going to set out to do what they want regardless of how many people tell them not to. With that in mind. I say go for it lol. If you turn out to be successful in it. All the people telling you no, will be buying your lsd. But, most likely you're just going to hurt yourself or others. Let alone, if you get caught manufacturing lsd and trafficking lsd. I wish you the best of luck and if you do come up with some lsd and make a lil bit of money. I recommend the first purchase you make is a retainer fee on a lawyer. Good luck and keep us updated.
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If you're in the US you're looking at a possible life sentence.
THAT's why so few do this.
If you have the ability and means, go ahead... but don't make a sellers account with the same name as this one and sell vials until you build a rep.
As others have noted, Uncle Fester is NOT a great source for manufacturing this stuff. Check the chem forums on the clearnet, don't post to them looking for help though, they have many better sources for figuring this stuff out, and several chemists have stated fester's method is missing a couple steps at least.
You need the whole picture. Check your schools library for more recent papers that detail more modern methods of production.
Please do not vend LSD Crystal on SR.
Please do not synthesize LSD if you don't know or have someone of great trust who knows exactly what he is doing
LSD crystal should only be handled by those who respect the drug and are worthy of the crystal not just a teenager who can turn his financial aid money into whatever he likes.
I dislike very much the way LSD is handled these days. Very few respect it like it should be imo.
LSD should be handled by those who love it, you don't need to be a hippy or LSD snob. If he fails at his attempts he will learn quickly... it's not like it's easy to find someone to teach you to make this shit 1st hand.
The Ops age has nothing to do with anything either.
Personally I despise the snobby Leary followers who think you should only use LSD for insight. It's fun too.
You can learn, AND have fun.