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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Ballzinator on February 02, 2013, 01:22 pm
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I have a bunch of 2mg clonazepam bars with four 0.5mg segments (like Xanax bars). I have no tolerance to benzos or alcohol. The only other benzos I've tried are tetrazepam at 50mg and Lorazepam at 2mg. What dose of clonazepam should I take to get a feel for the drug?
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Benzos are kind of hard to make a call on, for me anyways. What do you define as getting a feel for a drug and what do you want to use it for? If you want to use it therapeutically, I'd start with just .5mg and let yourself go about as normal and see if you can notice the effects.
If you want to use it in a more abusive fashion, and if you are pretty confident that you have no tolerance, then I would start with 1mg dissolved in your mouth before swallowing. Give that about 45 minutes and walk around your place a bit (if you are experimenting with benzos I strongly recommend not going anywhere because they can easily ruin your ability to drive/get around) and see if you are feeling physically disoriented (this is indicative of a HIGH dosage of benzos in your system and you should not take anymore unless you are willing to face the consequences of increased tolerance and being extremely fucked up).
If you feel you are not where you want to be at 1mg by t: 1:00 I'd pop another .5mg. You could take 2mg at once and definitely feel the effects but you probably wouldn't be able to do much besides lay around.
When I first started 1mg was a solid dose to get into a recreational level of relaxation. It's tempting but I wouldn't go further than that (and avoid alcohol).
Be careful as I'm sure you've read how dangerous benzos can be and it's all true. Also, you said you have a bunch but unless you want them all to disappear try to taper your use to at least once every three days. Xanax has a relatively short half-life but it will still hang around your system and fuck with your tolerance.
Snoopish
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Thank you very much for the information
I took a quarter bar like 20 minutes ago and I can feel first effects. It's definitely more on the muscle relaxing side. I'm taking another quarter because 1mg clonazepam = 20mg Valium = 2mg lorazepam, a dose that I have taken and liked before.
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This is a dumb question but im wondering if taking some clonazepam and mixing it with a couple beers would put me to sleep? Ive never taken this stuff and im wondering how bad of an idea it would be to pop 1 and go to the bar.
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Well, its a fair question since numerous people do exactly that.
The combination of benzo's and alcohol certainly has its risks - respiratory depression being one of the mjaor ones.
On the other hand plenty of have a few drinks and a mg of xanax or clonazepam as a nightcap.
Ii will surely help you sleep, and probably cause some memory loss. Beyond that it is very hard to say what amount will result in a dangerous situation. It all depends on tolerance, individual differences and a fair amount of luck.
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Ben has it right. While I would NOT recommend it, as it is is a slippery slope and you can easily fuck yourself over but, admittedly, I have combined benzos and alcohol and it can be a relaxing evening and it can help you got to sleep but it can also black you out. Be careful and start slow and build your way up or it will catch up to you.
Cheers.
Snoopish
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2mg under tongue. Didn't even reads what others said but I'm sure it's bullshit .
Sources: experience.
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This is a dumb question but im wondering if taking some clonazepam and mixing it with a couple beers would put me to sleep? Ive never taken this stuff and im wondering how bad of an idea it would be to pop 1 and go to the bar.
if you only have a couple of beers and after that go back home nothing will happen.
Sources: took about 18 mg of clonazepam and 2-3 beers didn't die and didn't do anything just made a fool of myself however didn't lose memory or anything like that.
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After taking the two quarters yesterday I don't know what the fuck happened and woke up the next day at 3pm with six of the ten bars left! What the fuck!
Definitely gonna go easy on the stuff, just tried again with one quarter and feeling nice and relaxed. Movement feels sluggish, typing is fucked up. Took me 15 minutes to write this. Clonazepam is definitely a mind-fucker.
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After taking the two quarters yesterday I don't know what the fuck happened and woke up the next day at 3pm with six of the ten bars left! What the fuck!
Definitely gonna go easy on the stuff, just tried again with one quarter and feeling nice and relaxed. Movement feels sluggish, typing is fucked up. Took me 15 minutes to write this. Clonazepam is definitely a mind-fucker.
where did you get it from ? was it blistered ?
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After taking the two quarters yesterday I don't know what the fuck happened and woke up the next day at 3pm with six of the ten bars left! What the fuck!
Definitely gonna go easy on the stuff, just tried again with one quarter and feeling nice and relaxed. Movement feels sluggish, typing is fucked up. Took me 15 minutes to write this. Clonazepam is definitely a mind-fucker.
where did you get it from ? was it blistered ?
From "NicoGer" on BMR. I have bought good lorazepam from him before. They were unblistered. Here is a photo of them:
http://5xrder5zmkqkdary.onion/ballzi/clonazepam.jpg
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thanks for the info, i heard just small amounts is fine with some drinks just wanted to check with y'all
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crazy man, i never even heard of clonazepam bars. i've been on 2mg per day for over 8 years now for chronic anxiety disorder. When I first started taking them, I would wait until then end of the day, after work, and take 1mg and just melt into the couch for a few hours. I remember one time, I took 2mg and melted into the floor all night... Crazy low tolerance. Now I am to the point where I can go days without any benzos, feel just fine, and take like 0.5mg - 2mg clonazepam if needed to control my panic attacks. When I take it now, it definitely relaxes me a bit but mostly just makes me feel normal. I recently obtained some 2mg xanax bars and man, those things are FUN! I definitely recommend against starting on benzos but mine legitimately helped me get through crippling panic attacks. I just let it get the best of me, and I have to have some every few days or i feel really "weird".
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the 2mg dosage should do the trick. I am a benzo seller and I know this shouls work mate.By the way we have the banana flavored clonazepam, if you are interested.
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Quick question. I used to have a scrip for Klonopin, and got taken off of it in favor of Restoril, but I didn't like the change. So, I've got some Klonopin on the way, and Some of you keep talking about dissolving the pill in your mouth first? I'd never heard that before? Does that intensify the experience?
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Quick question. I used to have a scrip for Klonopin, and got taken off of it in favor of Restoril, but I didn't like the change. So, I've got some Klonopin on the way, and Some of you keep talking about dissolving the pill in your mouth first? I'd never heard that before? Does that intensify the experience?
I wouldn't say it intensifies the experience but I do find that the effects kick in much faster than when swallowing a pill whole. There is some disagreement about whether any of the benzo gets absorbed sublingually but I think it's generally agreed that the effects kick in faster (and I think I may have read a couple reports of it intensifying the experience but I wouldn't expect anything too dramatic) by dissolving it in your mouth as opposed to swallowing it whole.
Cheers
Snoopish
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well even I have heard that many people do that. Many of my customers do that especially with the banana flavored klonopin. They say its awesome!! I have never tried one so I don't know but they say that its better than the regular one.
Quick question. I used to have a scrip for Klonopin, and got taken off of it in favor of Restoril, but I didn't like the change. So, I've got some Klonopin on the way, and Some of you keep talking about dissolving the pill in your mouth first? I'd never heard that before? Does that intensify the experience?
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BALZZINATOR 2MG FOR A FIRST TIMER SHOULD BE PLENTY ENOUGH..I SNIFF THEM..
WAIT A SEC KLONOPIN BARS?? HUH?? WHEN DID THEY MADE THESE? U SURE ITS BARS?? COULD U UPLOAD A PIC OR TELL ME WHAT IT SAYS ON IT? I HAVE NEVER SEEEN NOR CAN I FIND ANYTHING ABOUT KLONO BARS
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Hey another obvious hint for ya, if ya have no tolerance and ya mix with a few to some beers (depending on how much you drink) DONT DRIVE. Even if ya feel fine i promise ya behind the wheel it will be diff
I hate giving lectures but sometimes its necessary
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I encourage that sort of advice mate!
Hey another obvious hint for ya, if ya have no tolerance and ya mix with a few to some beers (depending on how much you drink) DONT DRIVE. Even if ya feel fine i promise ya behind the wheel it will be diff
I hate giving lectures but sometimes its necessary
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BALZZINATOR 2MG FOR A FIRST TIMER SHOULD BE PLENTY ENOUGH..I SNIFF THEM..
WAIT A SEC KLONOPIN BARS?? HUH?? WHEN DID THEY MADE THESE? U SURE ITS BARS?? COULD U UPLOAD A PIC OR TELL ME WHAT IT SAYS ON IT? I HAVE NEVER SEEEN NOR CAN I FIND ANYTHING ABOUT KLONO BARS
Here is a pic of them:
http://5xrder5zmkqkdary.onion/ballzi/clonazepam.jpg
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BALLZINATOR i just looked at the picture.. Those are a certain brand of xanax bar bud.. I think their from Argentina. Iv seen them before there not kpins.. Thats why i was soo confused, cause i in all my 10 years of taking benzos ever herd of a kpin bAR.
But yea buddy there are soooo many diffrent looks .colors and shapes of bars youd go crazy trying to remember them all.. But im 100 % sure that is a Xanax bar..
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BALLZINATOR i just looked at the picture.. Those are a certain brand of xanax bar bud.. I think their from Argentina. Iv seen them before there not kpins.. Thats why i was soo confused, cause i in all my 10 years of taking benzos ever herd of a kpin bAR.
But yea buddy there are soooo many diffrent looks .colors and shapes of bars youd go crazy trying to remember them all.. But im 100 % sure that is a Xanax bar..
No man, the listing is right here:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=13691
I have no idea if it was Xanax or clonazepam but I have some actual Xanax from the same vendor in transit right now. I'll see if the bars are different or if they aren't even bars at all...
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nmac makes a good point. In general, if looking into any benzo please look into the half life for that particular one and remember it takes about 3 half-lifes to get the majority of a drug out of your system. If the half-life is 48 hours that means you will still have a noticeable amount of that benzo running through your system for 6 days after taking it.
Cheers
Snoopish
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If you wanna Make a benzo hit u harder or as u said make it more intense the best is to drink fruit juice...I forgot which kind ,we hd a convo thread about this the other day, but look it up its very true..
Devolving it under your tongue only works faster, there r 2 veins under your tounge, the meds gets into your bloodstream faster.. Many think the Banana kins are stronger but there not, they are just not ment to be swallowed but chewed or sit under your tong causing it to kick in faster. Not to mention they taste great..But iv ever had a Klonopin taste bad, their eaither minty or sweet tasting, Non r bitter like XANAX...
Also about the seizures is very true..Iv been on benzos a few diffrent types prescribed for almost 10 years and there have been many times i would take too many f my scrip before i started buying off the net and i would be very depressed and also had to go to the hospital a few times, and tell them a lie and say i washed them in my pants when i was doing clothes...They would give me 20 of some low benzo but it was better than nothing,,, I dont like valium much but they for sure work,just not as strong as the others i mention...
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If you wanna Make a benzo hit u harder or as u said make it more intense the best is to drink fruit juice...I forgot which kind ,we hd a convo thread about this the other day, but look it up its very true..
I believe it's grapefruit juice that you are thinking of. I haven't tried it myself but have heard several people report that this is the case. I don't know how much juice you'd need to drink or exactly how it works or even the degree of impact so I'd advise caution and to see if you can't find some detailed reports regarding it.
Cheers
Snoopish
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I don't think there's any question that clonazepam (as well as other benzos) are able to be absorbed sublingually
I also agree that the onset via this ROA seems a bit quicker
I wouldn't say the effects are any stronger than the oral ROA, but I don't have hard numbers in front of me, this is anecdotal
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When I had the clonazepam bars, I let them dissolve in my mouth and didn't swallow for like five minutes, that definitely made them hit harder. Now I have 2mg alprazolam pills. I tried letting one dissolve in my mouth today but had to swallow it immediately because it had a horrible bitter taste. Here is a picture of them:
http://5xrder5zmkqkdary.onion/ballzi/alprazolam.jpg
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Alprazolam is definitely bitter tasting, but for me it's not so bitter I can't let it dissolve in my mouth. But different people have different tolerances to bitterness.
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Since I first saw in this thread about letting Xanax melt under the tongue, I've tried it, and I don't think it makes much of a difference. Maybe the onset of the "high" comes on a little quicker, but it's nothing to write about (he writes).
I do have some good things to say about Restoril. I have a scrip for 15mg, and I take it every other night for sleep, but tonight I took two, and I am feeling pretty freaking good right now. So, score one for that benzo. Hopefully, my K-pins will come in on Monday, and all will be right with the world. The bad thing about benzos is that you build up a tolerance to them so quickly, but the great thing about benzos is that if you give yourself a break, use just a little bit of discipline, they reward you beautifully.
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Since I first saw in this thread about letting Xanax melt under the tongue, I've tried it, and I don't think it makes much of a difference. Maybe the onset of the "high" comes on a little quicker, but it's nothing to write about (he writes).
I tend to agree, but at least with a lot of the clonazepam formulations they have a kind of minty flavor, so there's no reason not to do it this way if you don't mind it, i'm learning
The bad thing about benzos is that you build up a tolerance to them so quickly, but the great thing about benzos is that if you give yourself a break, use just a little bit of discipline, they reward you beautifully.
indeed, these are the words of a true benzo master. they get so much hate from those who have been burned by them, but once you learn the trick to their use they are such a great tool
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Since you guys mentioned that alprazolam is bitter and some clonazepam pills are minty, I think AnonymousAddict was wrong and my clonazepam bars really were clonazepam because they weren't the slightest bit bitter and a little bit minty.
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The absolute, 100% accurate, foolproof way to ID a pill is to call Poison Control from a burner cell. Claim to be a law enforcement officer and tell the responder that you have seized some pills and need help identifying them. Nine times out of ten they won't even ask you your name, and if they do ask, it will just be to be friendly. I know this because I was a cop for many years, and used this all the time. I've used it since with some pills I bought on the Road.
Use a burner cell just in case the protocols are a little tighter in your state than they are in mine.
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Tried kpins for the first time today. I really liked the relaxing effect it had on me. I tried .5mg sublingually and I definitely felt it.
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Hey mate! Have you ever had Banana flavour Klonopin ?? they are really good.
The Banana flavour klonopin 10mg is really high on demand.
10mg klonopins O.o ?
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I've never heard of K-pins in a dosage that high. I kinda think it's a typo or something, since no doc in his right mind would write for 10 mg. Maybe he meant 1mg.
And, maybe I'm just a cranky fuck, but flavored drugs kinda lost their appeal about the same time I gave up Flintstones vitamins.
Can you tell my shit still hasn't come in yet?
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I've never heard of K-pins in a dosage that high. I kinda think it's a typo or something, since no doc in his right mind would write for 10 mg. Maybe he meant 1mg.
And, maybe I'm just a cranky fuck, but flavored drugs kinda lost their appeal about the same time I gave up Flintstones vitamins.
yeah probably just a mistake, looks like he removed the post.
haha i hear you about the flavorings too, a chemical banana flavor analogue doesn't sound up my alley
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There are two problems I would ("would", because I've never tried them) have with banana-flavored pills:
1.) I would somehow feel like the product wasn't intended for my age group but rather for seven- to twelve-year-olds. I mean, come on! Shouldn't we keep the worlds of candy and drugs separate? Except of course in the case of cannabis edibles and LSD-laced candy ;D
2.) I fucking hate bananas. I don't know why and I'm the only person I've ever heard of who doesn't like bananas. Which sucks because they're healthy as fuck.
Sorry for this fucked-up post, I'm on 4mg of Xanax plus two beers plus a liter of Afri-Cola (German brand of cola with 2.5x the amount of caffeine compared to Coca Cola :D) plus a 200mg caffeine pill so that's 450mg caffeine total.
In hindsight this is suddenly starting to look like a bad idea :o
Oh well, I survived 9.6mg of 25i so my metabolism should handle this one alright, shouldn't it :D
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Sorry for this fucked-up post, I'm on 4mg of Xanax plus two beers plus a liter of Afri-Cola (German brand of cola with 2.5x the amount of caffeine compared to Coca Cola :D) plus a 200mg caffeine pill so that's 450mg caffeine total.
I used to drink that shit when I was in Iraq. Also, this stuff that I didn't know what it was called (I used to, but my Arabic is horrible, and I forgot), that is basically a Red Bull with nicotine. I hear you on the Xanax, though. My K-pins came in today, and I'm feeling fine.
Oh well, I survived 9.6mg of 25i so my metabolism should handle this one alright, shouldn't it :D
lol... I think you'll be all right. jesus...
Oh, by the way, I wanted to shout out the vendor I used, this time, Natasha (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9372abfb60). I knew, I mean knew, that I was getting a Priority Mail package with 30 pills. But, the stealth was so good, when I got the mail today I had doubts. I was impressed.
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Oh, by the way, I wanted to shout out the vendor I used, this time, Natasha (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9372abfb60). I knew, I mean knew, that I was getting a Priority Mail package with 30 pills. But, the stealth was so good, when I got the mail today I had doubts. I was impressed.
good to hear. I'm thinking about hooking up with Natasha for my next benzo order. Those 1mg xanax look weird in the picture though don't they? her feedback is stellar though
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Well, I'm no expert on Xanax, but I'm about to be. Just ordered 50 pills from my favorite SR vendor, American Psycho (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6bd48492ef). While Natasha specializes in benzos, AP has a variety of pharmaceuticals. But, he's been just amazing with customer service and stealth and speed - really has earned all the positive feedback. He's had some RL health problems, which I can certainly identify with, that limited his listings for awhile. But, he's better now, and his page looks better than ever. Check him out, and if you order with him, tell him I sent you, would ya?
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Alprazolam is definitely bitter tasting, but for me it's not so bitter I can't let it dissolve in my mouth. But different people have different tolerances to bitterness.
Xanax just tastes afwul, really. It's a very unpleasant bitter taste, though you may learn to associate that with its effects and care less about it. I've found it to taste a bit like paracetamol, but with a really typical after taste that seems hard to get rid off.
It is important to notice that there is absolutely no use in chewing on xanax. It is not absorbed in the mouth, the nain route is absorption in the small intestine. Just downing the tablets with some water will mare the effect kick in faster compared to chewing them down and dissolving them in your mouth. This may be different for the time-released xanax capsules on the market, but when it comes in the form on a ordinary tablet, just down the things, on an empty stomach if you want the fastest effect.