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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: yokes101 on July 10, 2013, 10:21 am
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I have been meaning to try something from the 2C family for a while now, I was going to get a bit of 2c-b to start with but then I thought why not try something try something a bit more adventurous!
So I thought I would make a good topic. Whats your favorite and why?
Personally im looking for something more euphoric then trippy if some one can recommend anything.
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Definitely 2c-b.....The visuals are awesome. It's very giddy high & great in a social environment. That was also Shulgin's favorite RC... 8)
I think that also has the least amount of side effects as well.....30-35 mg's was my favorite dose...But start small if your not experience user with psychs...like 20-25 mg's.
Good luck...
Jack
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30mg 2C-E mixed with 30mg 2C-T-2 insufflated :D
It's just amazing!
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Only tried 2ci and 2cb and so far b is my fav!! So easy and can add to lsd or mdma (or both) and it's great (:
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2c-i its also one of my top favorites!
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2C-B is the only one I have tried but I can say that it is a FANTASTIC psychedelic. It is really astounding how good of a drug it is. I grabbed a gram of it and me and all my friends have been staying quite psychedelic and euphoric all summer long. What a beautiful substance.
It is also amazing to add to the comedown of an MDMA session.
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Currently exploring the RC scene, will let you know when I earn my stripes!
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I've tried 2ce, 2ci, 2ct2, 2ct7, and 2cb and of course peyote and of all of these 2ci is my favorite.
2ci is my favorite bc its 8 hours of awesomeness, it's visually interesting, nasuae isn't that bad, you can function on it if you need to or really let go and release yourself to it. So all around it's the best of all the 2c family...great body high and the best sex ever has been had on this drug.
2ct2 would be second favorite - This one i've only tried twice but it was visually different than 2ci and i'm gearing up to try it again. The come up on 2ct2 the first time was so magical I really cannot explain but it's 2 for 2 in amazing trips.
2ce third favorite - 2ce didn't seem to have as much "warmth" to it as the top 2. 2ce, while fun and a good time has never given me the type of life-changing trip 2ci and 2ct2 have given me.
2cb fourth favorite - only last 4 hours :( I got this stuff only bc I couldn't get a hold of 2ci and it was an okay facsimile but is so short-lasting... it leaves me wanting more.
2ct7 least favorite - I puked for lifetimes on this drug. Somewhere in another universe I am still throwing up. Also 2ct7 has some deaths associated with its use...or misuse I should say. 2ct7 has been described by my friends as "mean" "scary" and "magical" Lots of people have nasuea with this as well...more nasuaea than usually accompanies a 2c drug
Lastly Peyote...Not a huge fan of this either bc the cactus is soooooo bitter and basic. Disgusting to eat, the trip is pretty cool, but not as awesome as 2ci or 2ct2. 8) 8) 8)
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2ct7 least favorite - I puked for lifetimes on this drug. Somewhere in another universe I am still throwing up. Also 2ct7 has some deaths associated with its use...or misuse I should say. 2ct7 has been described by my friends as "mean" "scary" and "magical" Lots of people have nasuea with this as well...more nasuaea than usually accompanies a 2c drug
Thank God were not the only ones! I once threw a 2C-T-7 party and we all snorted 20 to 25 milligrams and we all had to have our own buckets and rubbermaid tubs because we all couldn't stop puking! I am definitely still puking in another life too my man. That was my least favorite for sure.
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Your gonna want 2c-b buddy trust me, get the 2c-b from the Undeclared vendor who sells it for $80 a gram. I've had it before he's a great vendor with pure hcl product. For the euphoria nothing top's B in my opinion, E and P come close but they have a deeper more intellectual philosophical presence to them. 2CB is the ultimate enhancing drug, its what everyone doing molly should be doing instead ;D
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do u know it, guys, was there somewhere on SR a thread about 2c products ?
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2c-b all the way
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I honestly suggest starting off with 2C-B and dabble in that for awhile before seeing if you're interested in the 2C family to begin with. They're interesting chemicals that are worth experimenting with. After 2C-B maybe look to 2C-I (which is extremely visual and intricate) then 2C-T2.
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2c-e for tripping, 2c-b for just feeling gooood :)
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2C-B is a wonderful chemical.
Don't go balls-deep with new chemicals right off the bat. Different people react differently to things. Start slow with something like 2C-B. 2C-I might be an alternative. I think 2C-E might be something those people with more experience are more likely to enjoy but I haven't used it myself so my opinion doesn't mean much.
I'm looking forward to BlueViking getting his 2C-B back in stock since he offers great product at a good price and I only do domestic.
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
Next time mate... :D
LOVE has got some great price especially on 2C-E!
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
Lots of people describe 2c-e as difficult and less euphoric. Would you expect most other people to prefer 2c-e or just a certain type of user?
Any idea what people mean by "difficult" when they describe it that way?
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
Lots of people describe 2c-e as difficult and less euphoric. Would you expect most other people to prefer 2c-e or just a certain type of user?
Any idea what people mean by "difficult" when they describe it that way?
Perhaps they mean much much stronger? I don't know really. The visuals are strong. I can't stop smiling.. Pretty euphoric. 2c-I is pretty weak. 2-C-T7 is pretty difficult in the sense that I'm puking for at least an hour after snorting 25 milligrams.
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Jack nailed it on the head.
2C-E > Rest of 2C's
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
Lots of people describe 2c-e as difficult and less euphoric. Would you expect most other people to prefer 2c-e or just a certain type of user?
Any idea what people mean by "difficult" when they describe it that way?
Perhaps they mean much much stronger? I don't know really. The visuals are strong. I can't stop smiling.. Pretty euphoric. 2c-I is pretty weak. 2-C-T7 is pretty difficult in the sense that I'm puking for at least an hour after snorting 25 milligrams.
I read somewhere that it makes people feel uncomfortable, body-wise.
I got some 2C-I recently, snorted 10mg and got nothing. I'd get at least a short-duration threshold effect from 10mg of 2C-B snorted.
f it. I've now ordered some 2c-e.
snorting 2c-b and 2c-i sometimes gives me uncomfortable nose/head pain that lasts an hour. When the 2c-e comes in I might just make a injectable solutions out of all three. Guess I need to try and figure out the solubility of each. Even if I decide not to inject I can always shoot it up my ass.
I used 2c-b about 6 hours after taking 400ug of LSD last weekend when the LSD visuals got weak and it brought things back up. I like 2c-b quite a lot except for the muscle tension. If I like the 2c-e even more than that would be pretty incredibly awesome.
thanks.
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
Lots of people describe 2c-e as difficult and less euphoric. Would you expect most other people to prefer 2c-e or just a certain type of user?
Any idea what people mean by "difficult" when they describe it that way?
Perhaps they mean much much stronger? I don't know really. The visuals are strong. I can't stop smiling.. Pretty euphoric. 2c-I is pretty weak. 2-C-T7 is pretty difficult in the sense that I'm puking for at least an hour after snorting 25 milligrams.
I read somewhere that it makes people feel uncomfortable, body-wise.
I got some 2C-I recently, snorted 10mg and got nothing. I'd get at least a short-duration threshold effect from 10mg of 2C-B snorted.
f it. I've now ordered some 2c-e.
snorting 2c-b and 2c-i sometimes gives me uncomfortable nose/head pain that lasts an hour. When the 2c-e comes in I might just make a injectable solutions out of all three. Guess I need to try and figure out the solubility of each. Even if I decide not to inject I can always shoot it up my ass.
I used 2c-b about 6 hours after taking 400ug of LSD last weekend when the LSD visuals got weak and it brought things back up. I like 2c-b quite a lot except for the muscle tension. If I like the 2c-e even more than that would be pretty incredibly awesome.
thanks.
People trip from eating 15mg of my 2C-I. Maybe because it is pure though. There are many reviews from a domestic vendor that I supply. I really like 2C-E though. The two do not even compare.
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2cb-fly but be careful easy to over do 2ce is defnatly the most uncontrollable out of the buch tripwise. So if u want something more intense go with that or 2ci.
My opinion on 2cb is well awsome very tactile. With your touch hearing and vision being really destorted. Voices change and so does the feel of things. I enjoy this with my lover but would rather be on the others with a group of people. 2cb can be so sexual even at doses above 25mg. I love to not even be able to see anything but patterns and colors and still be able to fuck like a champ. 2cb is more emotional wich gives a more intamant one on one trip. Dont like 2cb alone even for five mins as the others I can meditate or chill alone or with people
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A couple years back I happened upon 2c-t-2 and remember it being quite amazing and quite special. Somehow more special than 2ci, 2ce, 2cb, and 2ct7. I recently ordered from Morpheu5 and had quite the pleasure of receiving and trying his product.
So I dosed my friends and myself based off the dosages I had of 2ct2 a couple years ago, and wow this stuff was way stronger.
Our dosages were as follows: *Names have been changed
40mg - Myself aka Mitch (Male 180lbs)
24mg - Chassidy 120 lbs
26mg - Christina - 135 lbs
35mg - Frank - 170 lbs
We took this stuff at a club…with the knowledge that if it were to be too intense we could always just cab-home. Wow…it was way intense.
The 2ct2 really kicked back in our roll…we had all taken some Molly about 2.5 hours before and the 2c-t-2 made it feel like it was back full force. About a hour after we all took the 2ct2 we realized we needed to go home.
The trip was super intense for me as I had taken 40mg, and it was definitely a little uncomfortable at the beginning. No one ever experienced any intense nasea or body-load but Cassidy threw-up once bc she was extremely new into the tripping scene.
2.5 hours after we had dropped it, everyone was having a good time, but for most of our crew…the first little bit was a really wild ride. Being in a club was not a good idea.
Our bodis all felt amazing and we all definitely took advantage of the heightened sexual energy we all had. As for the visuals…It seemed like someone was holding sparklers in our eyes. Everything we looked at kind of was just exploding with little sparks and of course the colors were very pronounced. After the first 2 hours, the sparkling wore off, and the traditional "breathing" rooms and swirling tiles of the 2c Family visuals were happening.
I remember looking through my drawer of clothes thinking "Who's Clothes are these?" The all looked so foreign to me and the colors of all my clothes had completely changed. I kept thinking "wow, this is so much more intense than last time." (Last time I dosed 2ct2 years ago it was around 32-35mg)
We took at 1am and by 7am we were all still feeling pretty good. 3 of us all opted to take a little more around sunrise and we all took 6, 12, and 13mg boosters. I didn't really feel too much more by taking the 13mg booster but i'm sure it prolonged the trip for me.
In Summary: I would likely take the 40mg again, but I wouldn't go any higher than that. My vision was seriously altered at this level and it stayed very altered for at least a couple hours. Once the trip settled in everyone was having a lot of fun and dancing and joking and laughing…it was a very amazing experience and hopefully someone can now base their dosage and their experience based off the notes I have given.
My personal recommendation: Watch the sunrise, Paint, Swim, play winamp's Milkdrop visualizer and shower in absolute darkness, ABSOLUTE DARKNESS (No door-cracks with light coming in or else you'll rob yourself of the experience of completely losing "where" you are.
For a more in depth list of things to do..check out this List of things to do while Tripping thread here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=80623.msg958583#msg958583
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Just wondering: if you didn't cab-home did you plan to drive home? Cops see dilated pupils triggering a test and you might end up in jail for six months depending on your state. Stay safe.
Thanks for posting the report. I'd like to try 2c-t2 someday.
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2CB it is. Just bought some from that new vendor LOVE.
I'll report back with my thoughts.
Pity. 2C-E is much better. You'll still enjoy the 2C-B though.
Lots of people describe 2c-e as difficult and less euphoric. Would you expect most other people to prefer 2c-e or just a certain type of user?
Any idea what people mean by "difficult" when they describe it that way?
To me when I descibe something as difficult it has more anxiety and there is something more to get from the drug.
Coke for example is not difficult to do. Feels good and easy administration no anxiety on the come up and is short acting. And you csn do it almost anytime
Then the middle is like mdma nice feeling medium duration but still no anxiety or pushfor something more out od the experience just euphoria u can pick ur days but still after 6 hours you can function pretty normal
Then lsd. Tons of anxiety. Like thier is always something more to be reached. The duration is so long that you have to plan ahead for it. It is almost a burden to use. Which is like most longer acting psychadelics
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Wow, no 2C-P love here??
The only other 2C I have tries is B. But 2C-P was fucking amazing. My friend had a whole gram and it lasted us months. The first time I tried it he was like "it's gonna hurt your nose, man" and I have snorted nearly everything so I was unsuspecting of how bad 2C-P burns.... holy shit I did not want to be alive for that 15 minute time span.
But then it hit me. I was on the shitter staring at my brick wall (an all too familiar sight) and the texture of the bricks pop out. Everything is so rugged and I can see the shadows cast by the miniscule bumps on the bricks. Ok, time to go back to the living room. Adult Swim is on and Superjail is playing, so fuckin trippy. My friend introduced me to the Mars Volta that night and I can safely say that is the hardest I have tripped. We dosed a second time, leading to my longest trip - 24 hours straight.
Highlight of the night was when we were sitting on my front porch playing the melodica at about 6AM when all the neighbors were walking to the Metro bus stop to go to work. What a sight we must have been. And then we realized that we probably looked extremely sketchy so we went inside haha
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Just wondering: if you didn't cab-home did you plan to drive home? Cops see dilated pupils triggering a test and you might end up in jail for six months depending on your state. Stay safe.
We cabbed it there because I knew it might be too intense of an experience in a club. I could've handled it, but I was glad everyone else suggested we go home. 2ct2 is definitely better as a stay at home psychedelic. Especially at those dosages.
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I'm so often surprised to hear about people handling some of these drugs in public places. I have enough trouble in a controlled environment at home.
In a somewhat related note, I enjoyed going out to the club but now I'd rather stay home and have an adventure.
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Chinese labs are currently working on the synthesis of 2C-EF. Some old trip reports on the chemical from bluelight suggest that it's something huge. Tons of visuals and very little body load. - No mindfuck either on moderate doses.
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Chinese labs are currently working on the synthesis of 2C-EF. Some old trip reports on the chemical from bluelight suggest that it's something huge. Tons of visuals and very little body load. - No mindfuck either on moderate doses.
Source?
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I took ~20mg then ~10mg of 2C-I several hours after taking 5-meo-mipt. The muscle tension was pretty bad. It is hard to compare it to 2C-B because I've had different experiences between trips from the same batch of 2C-B.
Both the 5-meo-mipt and the 2c-i wreck havoc on my digestive system. Eventually my system is cleared out which at least makes things easier. I'm curious if injecting these chemicals would lessen that problem. I doubt I'll try with the 2C-I as it doesn't appear pure (I think the powder is both grey and white) and found the 2C-I to be mostly insoluble in water when I tried to mix it with a drink.
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Hi guys, does anyone have experience with very high dose 2C-E? I've been steadily working my way through some for the past couple of weeks. Unfortunately due to the ridiculous length it took quite a while to get near the right dose.
It was very nice up until 33mg orally, at 38mg it became super intense. At this dosage everything became very fractally like at the beginning or end of a breakthrough DMT trip (and the mind trip was waaaay more introspective than previously).
What I wanted to know was, is there a point at which I will loose track of the real world? At which I will not longer be able to tell what is real and what is a hallucination? Basically an 8 hour DMT trip (albeit one in which your mind remains entirely coherent).
Oddly I find the nervous energy/muscle tension much less annoying/difficult to deal with at the higher doses (eg above 25mg), I just wish I could stop clenching my jaw.
Oh and my face is set like stone against snorting it. that stuff is vicious! The burn I can live with but the swelling of my sinuses is too much, especially since they stay tender and itchy for several days afterwards.
@slirp - I can't speak from experience but reading through an old 2C-E thread on bluelight I saw several users talking about IVing 2C-E. 1 said it was great and 3 others said never to do it, the pain is excruciating and ruins the entire trip as you worry about your veins collapsing and loosing your arm :P Dunno if they have any idea what they are talking about but worth keeping in mind.
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Hi guys, does anyone have experience with very high dose 2C-E? I've been steadily working my way through some for the past couple of weeks. Unfortunately due to the ridiculous length it took quite a while to get near the right dose.
It was very nice up until 33mg orally, at 38mg it became super intense. At this dosage everything became very fractally like at the beginning or end of a breakthrough DMT trip (and the mind trip was waaaay more introspective than previously).
What I wanted to know was, is there a point at which I will loose track of the real world? At which I will not longer be able to tell what is real and what is a hallucination? Basically an 8 hour DMT trip (albeit one in which your mind remains entirely coherent).
Oddly I find the nervous energy/muscle tension much less annoying/difficult to deal with at the higher doses (eg above 25mg), I just wish I could stop clenching my jaw.
Oh and my face is set like stone against snorting it. that stuff is vicious! The burn I can live with but the swelling of my sinuses is too much, especially since they stay tender and itchy for several days afterwards.
@slirp - I can't speak from experience but reading through an old 2C-E thread on bluelight I saw several users talking about IVing 2C-E. 1 said it was great and 3 others said never to do it, the pain is excruciating and ruins the entire trip as you worry about your veins collapsing and loosing your arm :P Dunno if they have any idea what they are talking about but worth keeping in mind.
I do. My usual dose was 60mg insufflated. It only burns my nose for five minutes and then I'm fine. My nose does feel like it is watering for about 15 minutes though. It cleans out my sinuses very well. I am also quite fond of 100mg orally. I forgot that I was tripping and on drugs about 3 to 4 hours into 150+ milligram anally. That is the only drug that I've done like that. It was like a completely different drug.
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I do. My usual dose was 60mg insufflated. It only burns my nose for five minutes and then I'm fine. My nose does feel like it is watering for about 15 minutes though. It cleans out my sinuses very well. I am also quite fond of 100mg orally. I forgot that I was tripping and on drugs about 3 to 4 hours into 150+ milligram anally. That is the only drug that I've done like that. It was like a completely different drug.
Good god man! 60mg? 10 was enough to swell my sinuses into bloated, leaky, painful tiny holes in my face. Undeniably clear though.
100mg? Would I be right in assuming the real world is no longer discernible at that dosage? hows the body load?
Completely different in a good way or a bad way? I'm not looking to forget I am on drugs, my last experience with that sort of thing was 4-meo-pcp and its not something I am in a rush to repeat, even with 2C-E.
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I do. My usual dose was 60mg insufflated. It only burns my nose for five minutes and then I'm fine. My nose does feel like it is watering for about 15 minutes though. It cleans out my sinuses very well. I am also quite fond of 100mg orally. I forgot that I was tripping and on drugs about 3 to 4 hours into 150+ milligram anally. That is the only drug that I've done like that. It was like a completely different drug.
Good god man! 60mg? 10 was enough to swell my sinuses into bloated, leaky, painful tiny holes in my face. Undeniably clear though.
100mg? Would I be right in assuming the real world is no longer discernible at that dosage? hows the body load?
Completely different in a good way or a bad way? I'm not looking to forget I am on drugs, my last experience with that sort of thing was 4-meo-pcp and its not something I am in a rush to repeat, even with 2C-E.
Completely different in that I was trying to read all of the writing on my arms before I went crazy but it kept morphing into different letters before I could read a single word. 60mg snorted is great. Every single thing you look at has color and designs. What is even better is snorting 30mg of 2C-E mixed with 30mg of 2C-T-2. That combination was my favorite of the 2C-x compounds. Just fireworks of color everywhere. I actually ended up on the wrong side of the road while on that combination. SUV full of us all tripping and the oncoming lane forked from the lane in my direction and I followed the left because well I thought it was the right way at the time. It was night time and it took maybe a hundred feet for someone else in the vehicle to point out at we are going down the road the wrong way. Shortly after snorting it the passenger in shotgun was hanging out of the window like a dog with his eyes wide and mouth open. I had to keep put the window locks on to keep him in the car. He just kept getting fixated on all of the colors and stuff going on outside of the vehicle. He was the one that made the reference to fireworks which was a good description of what was I was seeing too.
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You always have super crazy stories about tripping! Don't you ever just sit down and enjoy the show :P
Never come across 2C-T-2 before but it looks pretty interesting. Would you have a personal preference for 2C-T-2 or 2C-T-7 for mixing with 2C-E to boost the visuals?
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You always have super crazy stories about tripping! Don't you ever just sit down and enjoy the show :P
Never come across 2C-T-2 before but it looks pretty interesting. Would you have a personal preference for 2C-T-2 or 2C-T-7 for mixing with 2C-E to boost the visuals?
I've mixed all three together in a dose around 120mg and snorted it. That was my other bad 2C-x experience. I kind of felt like I might possibly die but I kept that to myself. I could not figure out how to operate a sink faucet or open a window. I felt like I needed oxygen and water extremely bad at the beginning of the trip. It was great after laying in a cold shower for a while and puking though. I enjoyed the music and insane visuals covering the ceiling that were going to the music for hours.
I do not like 2C-T-7. It is the only one that I puke on and I puke on it bad. I had a 2C-T-7 gathering and everyone snorted 25mg or more and we all puked for over an hour. I don't enjoy puking my brains out.
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You are like Silk Roads own, living, cautionary tale, Jack. I think it takes a special kind of person to enjoy vomiting or nausea at all, the kind of person who feels its a purging experience. I am not among there number. 2C-T-2 it is then, now to find someone who ships domestically...
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You are like Silk Roads own, living, cautionary tale, Jack. I think it takes a special kind of person to enjoy vomiting or nausea at all, the kind of person who feels its a purging experience. I am not among there number. 2C-T-2 it is then, now to find someone who ships domestically...
Morpheu5 (Canadian Vendor) - ships amazing 2ct2. I had some last weekend and it blew my socks off. 2ct7 also made me throw up and have some really difficult hallucinations. My friends all experienced this as well. One friend who tried 2ct7 a few times came back with the description that "2ct7 is just mean." He says its a "mean drug." I only tried it once, but i can agree with that.
2ct2 and 2ci...my favorites of the bunch.
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You are like Silk Roads own, living, cautionary tale, Jack. I think it takes a special kind of person to enjoy vomiting or nausea at all, the kind of person who feels its a purging experience. I am not among there number. 2C-T-2 it is then, now to find someone who ships domestically...
Morpheu5 (Canadian Vendor) - ships amazing 2ct2. I had some last weekend and it blew my socks off. 2ct7 also made me throw up and have some really difficult hallucinations. My friends all experienced this as well. One friend who tried 2ct7 a few times came back with the description that "2ct7 is just mean." He says its a "mean drug." I only tried it once, but i can agree with that.
2ct2 and 2ci...my favorites of the bunch.
How does 2c-t-2 compare to 2c-e?
More visual? More psychedelic?
Chinese labs are currently working on the synthesis of 2C-EF. Some old trip reports on the chemical from bluelight suggest that it's something huge. Tons of visuals and very little body load. - No mindfuck either on moderate doses.
After reading some reports, this sounds amazing! I wonder if it'll become available sometime soon...
There is one clearnet vendor that I could find that's currently selling it but I'm not sure if it's legit or not "/
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30mg 2C-E mixed with 30mg 2C-T-2 insufflated :D
It's just amazing!
Seriously? I think that combination "could" end up killing someone. Even if you actually DID that, I think a lot of people would find that a terrifying experience even if they were fine healthwise.
I'm extrapolating here but people have died snorting the amount of T7 that you described snorting, as well as combining a normal dose with MDMA. Probably don't want to be snorting any 2C's as they also damage nasal passageways.
Anyway my preferences are as follows
1) 2C-B, very easy on the mind and body, trippy euphoria, looking at light sources usually results in a rainbows. At normal doses conversation is pretty easy and intellect is not lost. At higher doses 30+mg I tend to disassociate and it becomes difficult for me to retain my train of thought. I also get a slight headache at higher levels.
2) 2C-E, not so easy on my body, I describe it as psychedelic nausea + increased empathy. I am usually meditating and thanking god for all the beautiful people who have affected my life during the afterglow.. My doses have ranged from 12-25mg, and I have settled on 18mg because there is less bodyload for me.
3) 2C-I - meh, this one seemed hollow to me, but I admit quite visual. Also just kind of made me feel tingly on the skin. My least favorite 2C so far.
Haven't (yet) tried 2C-T7, 2C-T2, or 2C-P, but plan to in the future.
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I only snort 2C-X chemicals. I have on a few hundred occasions. Yes 30mg of 2C-E and 30mg of 2C-T-2 is amazing. It might be lethal if you have something wrong with you. I would give people 30mg of 2c-E their first time tripping. I have a good amount of friends who have taken 50mg. Yes, 2C-T-7 has been reported as killing a couple people. That is why we only snorted up to 30mg instead of the usual 60mg that I snort with 2C-E. Although, how many people have died from heroin, cocaine and pain killers? I mixed 120mg of 2C-T-2, 2C-E and 2C-T-7 and snorted it before. I did feel like I might die that time. I could not figure out how to open a window or turn on a sink fuacet. I laid down in a cold shower and puked. I don't like 2C-T-7. After puking I had a great time. The visuals were insanely intense.
Only 2C-T-7 gives me nausea. I see people IRL get nauseafrom all of the 2C-X chemicals though.
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Ok ok to each his own I guess.
I def know IRL people who have done some crazy ass shit (Like snorting 20mg of 25i), and they are still with us today.
Just be careful out there, "Know your body, know your mind" is sounding cliche at this point, but I still hold it close.
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2c-i is somewhat of a waste, way to much body load for the amount of effects experienced. It's a mild psychedelic and a mild etacnogen. If you want to roll, take X, if you want to trip take something else. That being said, some people love it, like my mother.
2c-e however is VERY visual and wonderful, I love the stuff, assuming you get a really good batch it'll take your fuckin' socks off.
2c-p is also quite fun as it has less body load and last many hours longer than 2c-e, great for all night parties.
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Shulgin reported 2C-E as being difficult and he only worked his way up to a 25mg dose I think. If his report was more positive maybe 2C-E would be more popular.
I made an injectable solution out of 2C-E and while I'm still experimenting with it I think I'm pretty happy with it.
Still, I'm looking forward to BlueViking getting 2C-B in stock again.
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I made an injectable solution out of 2C-E and while I'm still experimenting with it I think I'm pretty happy with it.
A handful of people I know have banged my 2C-E. Their eyes instantly dilated and they were tripping immediately.
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For some strange reason 2C-T-X's don't really affect me. 2C-E is one of my favorites it's also a great emergency kit for whenever your acid fails.
Have had some really rough nights with our good 'ol friend 2C-E, orally, snorting that fucker. Oh lord, i will never forget that nasty acid like burning drip.
Must have went through a few 100 milligrams that night, basically took a whole rock of clumped up powder and started throwing it in our drinks, snorting it from a knife.
Everything was still moving and glowing for about 48 hours after i woke up again
Good old times ;D Not sure if i can handle such amounts nowadays.
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you can smoke 2cs ??!!
Never heard that.
Important Q:
If one has some experiences with shrooms (appx. 10 times), almost none with LSD (2 half blotters) and now gets his hands on a decent amount of LSD, 2C-P and 2C-E how should he go about consuming it?
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you can smoke 2cs ??!!
Never heard that.
Important Q:
If one has some experiences with shrooms (appx. 10 times), almost none with LSD (2 half blotters) and now gets his hands on a decent amount of LSD, 2C-P and 2C-E how should he go about consuming it?
LSD and 2C-E are two very safe substances, 2C-P however is kinda dangerous when you are toying around with shitty scales, 10 mg will hit the sweet spot. 2C-E 18 will do just fine for the beginner.
Acid, just suck that babe until it the paper falls apart. The 2c-x's i would recommend to do it orally in a capsule, a beginner shouldn't try them nasally ESPECIALLY NOT 2C-P YOU WILL KILL YOURSELF.
Be sure to leave a nice trip report when you find the time! ;D
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LSD, 2c-e, and 2c-p all combine really nicely together :D
Though definitely not a beginner combo lol
@Operation Shulgin: what is up with your 2c-x prices? $11,000 USD for .5g 2c-i?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/1c6eef6cd3
There are a bunch of other outrageously overpriced PEAs on there...what gives?
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ESPECIALLY NOT 2C-P YOU WILL KILL YOURSELF
what are you on about, 2c-p is no more dangerous than 2c-e
I'd like to say that kwiktrip's 2c-c chemicals were mind blowing, the 2c-e was damned intense at 10mg, 2c-p at 8-10mg was wondrous, 15mg 2c-i was great too.
However, Makhala's 2c-x chemicals were not as wonderful, 20mg of 2c-i was somewhat psychedelic but nowhere near the intensity and fun of kwiktrip's product. His 2c-e was pretty much the exact same thing, in fact I couldn't even tall it apart from his 2c-i, it might as well have been the same chemical. Kwiktrips chemicals were VERY different, if given on and not told which I would instantly know based on the visuals, muscle tension and intensity alone. Makhala's drugs seemed to all be very vague and similar.
Does anyone know why this might be? The obvious answer is that something was not as it was labeled (or sold), but assuming they were ALL the chemical they were sold as is there any other explanation as to why the chemicals might have been so different from 2 separate vendors?
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No explanation other than purity and mislabeled. I want an explanation of how KwikTrip was having domestic seizures of 100mg orders! ;D
Seriously... Explain that.... :o
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I haven't used the guy in almost a year, he used to be the shit. I cant vouch for him now though.
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No explanation other than purity and mislabeled. I want an explanation of how KwikTrip was having domestic seizures of 100mg orders! ;D
Seriously... Explain that.... :o
Is there a thread or something on this?
That is pretty incredible.
My best guess is that there was powder on the envelope. Looking at feedback his quality of packaging was ridiculously bad. I would be very surprised if he didn't leave his fingerprints all over his packs.
Apparently he has now gotten vacuum sealers and such....after being a vendor for a long time he is only now doing that? Meanwhile serious vendors have moved on to using MBBs.
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I injected just 3mg of 2C-E less than an hour ago.
Fuck this shit. I think I'm done with drugs. Well, except for MDMA. And MDA.
Question that I've thought about for the past 10 minutes: why would anyone want to take drugs that give them a negative body load and make them feel like shit?