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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: ionic pro on March 25, 2012, 08:39 am
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is this guy legit?? this stuff he got look like some bho or something close up!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/55d9bb3d00
also pgp not required??? for what he's vending??? :o
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First of all that offer is not mine, I don't sell drugs.
Secondly, I never said that PGP is not required, are you blind?
I have a 4096 bit public key in my profile, I strongly suggest using it to contact me if you are sending me sensitive information.
And you should update your title, I am Peach(99) now.
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Peach(000) more like it :)
Just Sayin.
They're closing in on ya man.
Have a nice life defending those two strawmen in court.
Heard it on the scanners =D
HoneyPot LOLS
Did anyone SERIOUSLY think that this guy was either not A) a honeypot himself, or B) dick-hilt-deep fucking a big ol' INTERPOL honeypot ?
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wtf is wrong with you, you should take your fucking pills.
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wtf is wrong with you, you should take your fucking pills.
I've already taken all doctor prescribed meds for the day, but thanks for checking.
Seriously though. Its not just you dude. Lots of the Fake ID vendors got caught up in honeypots.
Its hard not to these days. You shoulda known better 0=)
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Don't worry, I actually really *do* know better :)
I have several safeguards to protect myself and my customer base, I cover my ass from the technical, to the legal, to the logistical perspectives.
I am the type that the people might think that I am too paranoid, but that the test of time proves me right every single time that I wasn't going too far with my measures. I always prefer to err to the side of safety.
It is absolutely fine to be paranoid, qvel.
You must be cautious, but you must be sure that you are actually allocating your resources efficiently (stress is also a resource!), otherwise you might be protecting yourself against ghosts, against imaginary threats.
We are both paranoids, but the difference between you and me is that I am actually an informed paranoid, I research to the very source of the information to confirm how our enemies actually work.
One thing is to theorize based on hypothetical capabilities, another thing is to do actual intelligence work.
Most of the best technologies are out there, we all know the theoretical capabilities, but they are impractical in reality for budgetary problems, or because it conflicts with civil rights. Being in touch and knowing with the real capabilities of your adversary is your main strength. Never forget that.
Btw, you might love this new offer of mine:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c2257c5f48
This will shed some light over the actual LEA protocols, if you are interested.
Take Care
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Peach, as deep-in as you are (or claim to be)
You have a lot worse than LEA to worry about.
I'm not talking about the guys who give a shit about your claimed civil rights.
You're providing fake IDs and ... heheh..
Your 'connection' in the British gov't provides you with passports, that you then distribute illegally... Across borders mind you. Do you really think that when they come for you it will be some LEA?
That's going to read 'terrorist' under a lot of modern interpretations, buddy.
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Yeah, and that's why I am extra careful.
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i have to agree with qvel - this whole thing looks bullshit.
drugs as bad as they are can still work cos the people who make em, and sell em can be very difficult to track especially if you use tor correctly. basically if everyone from the manufacturers of the drug to the silk road dealer keeps quiet about the drugs and only deals thru SR or some other equally or more anonymous channels then its very difficult to know who they are - so little can be done - the govt would require a slip-up - remember someone has to screw up in some way if drug dealers are to be caught - thats why many drug dealers do get away with it
however apparently peach claims the uk passports are "genuinely generated from within the IPS system". This situation is very different from the one above - documents like a british passport are some of the most difficult to get hold of in the world.
due to this im sure the number of people who can issue a passport will be severely limited - you need would atleast a few people involved to do this i reckon, because im sure the issue of each passport would not be able to be authorised by one person alone.
the govt/cops would have a very good idea who could create these and be able to investigate and whittle them down.
lets be honest - post gawker scandal this site got A LOT of press - the govt would buy one from peach (cos i assure you all major govts know about this site) - give him/her the name they want on the passport and track who was involved in the process (remember UK passports are VERY highly sought after and i assure you every passport transaction would be recorded with who did what.)
If these are legit usable passports then if these people have a brain, they would refuse to create passports which have been advertised on silk road.
am i saying this listing is 100% fake? - no, i havent bought it, so who knows it might be. but honestly the price of one passport is about £1500 (currently listed about 525btc). I mean thats ridiculously cheap considering the demand for UK passports and the difficulty of getting one. - this is magnified by the fact that if my assumption that you would need atleast a few people is correct, then they are only going to get a few hundred each - for such a high value commidity like a passport - its just not worth it.
im not saying for one second uk passports cannot be bought illegally somewhere - seems like if u know the right people you can get anything - but i can almost assure these ppl dont hang out on a well reported site like SR - and they definitely make it worth their while if they do, not for a few hundred pounds a passport - they work in the passport issuing sector - they know what ones worth.
sorry peach, just too hard to believe for me.
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my bad - its 525btc now and then 525btc after - approx £3000. Still takes nothing away from what ive said
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I don't have to write the books for Peach, history will do it. But, I know a honeypot when I see it, and I see yet another fake ID vendor balls deep fucking the hive, thinking he's never going to get stung. It's how they always go down.
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I'm going to be buying some of these Passports for other parties soon so we will find out what happens with them. Judging from the feedback Peach looks legit, time will tell I guess.
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I'm going to be buying some of these Passports for other parties soon so we will find out what happens with them. Judging from the feedback Peach looks legit, time will tell I guess.
The nature of a honey pot is that it appears completely legit.
When the target comes along and takes the sweet sweet honey (fake IDS)
they get filed and tracked. Those ARE legit IDS. and that IS a connection in IPS..
But you're a fool if you think it's not planned :>
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I'm going to be buying some of these Passports for other parties soon so we will find out what happens with them. Judging from the feedback Peach looks legit, time will tell I guess.
The nature of a honey pot is that it appears completely legit.
When the target comes along and takes the sweet sweet honey (fake IDS)
they get filed and tracked. Those ARE legit IDS. and that IS a connection in IPS..
But you're a fool if you think it's not planned :>
Oh yeah I get what you are saying but these would be going to Asia and I wouldn't be connected to the buyer in any way (God bless the BitCoin). At the end of the day if they are purchased, they come to the country and then get sent home I'll find out and then the truth will set us free.
By doing this it's a win-win situation, we can find out either way this way and nobody need get stung.
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Heh, qvel, as I said, you are a scaremonger. You should really start researching before panicking. You even don't use the terminology right. Your constant usage of the misnomer reveals your lack of discipline and your real area of amateurish interest: computers.
Honeypots is a word used specifically in computer security, not in Law Enforcement.
In criminal law it is called entrapment, commonly it is known as stings, and it is really messy for law enforcement to make use of it, in some countries it is just illegal any sort of entrapment.
kingprawn, you bring valid points, but the method used to manipulate the IPS is not traceable to anyone.
I will not discuss the nature and the method employed, but nobody will be able to trace this to anyone.
One way to prove that this is neither LEA nor "honeypots", this it would be restricting this order only for foreigners.
If I do that, it will kill two birds with one stone:
1) Then nobody from Scotland Yard will be able to try a "controlled" purchase. (although, even if they did, it would be untraceable for the special nature of this access)
2) It would be obvious that I am not in collusion with the UK LE, simply because it would be a security nightmare to be offering passports to anyone in the world.
3) I have several requests, and I am confident that all of them will love their passports when they receive it.
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I'm very interested in these passports and if they turn out to be legit then peach will have to take down her listing as i'd by buying every one she can get a hold of.
I'll wait to see limitless's results and if they turn out legit then i won't waste a second to order as many as i can as often as i can. These things are more valuable than a lump of gold.
How long do you think until you will find out Limitless?
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I need to discuss it further with the people that want them today and set up a sit down so we can hash it all out. Also am from the U.K and the people who will be receiving them from me will be from the U.K or coming to the U.K so we will obviously find out if they work or not. Once they have passed a tests on a few guinea pigs I'll be getting one myself and so will the people I work with sooooo I think were talking maybe a couple of months. This probably sounds a long time but bearing in mind the logistics it takes to get the customer base big enough to test this, then have them use them or come to the U.K on them it's not really.
Once I am satisfied I'll be happy to get one for myself etc, quite looking forward to trying to get this on the go.
Lim
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Hey bro, thanks for the swift reply. Thats too long for me to wait lol and i'm more of a street criminal than online, i just use online to supplement my street crimes, so with that in mind i get things done asap. If i was to get one of these passports i'd get them tested instantly.
Right now its not about getting scammed of the money, its the actual chance of getting scammed and not being able to get to the scammer to break his/her back that is annoying me and putting me off.
I can't think of a way that would prevent a scam from taking place other than i give the full amount of money to Silk Road escrow with terms and conditions laid down and await the product from Peach. Once an extensive library of photos turns up and are according to the terms and conditions laid down on the escrow i will release the funds or withdraw. If they are what she says they are then the funds would go straight to her and if i play up and don't stick to the terms then Silk Road Escrow will be able to release the funds non the less as i would outline this in the agreement.
I just don't know id Peach would be happy with this or not.
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Heh, qvel, as I said, you are a scaremonger. You should really start researching before panicking. You even don't use the terminology right. Your constant usage of the misnomer reveals your lack of discipline and your real area of amateurish interest: computers.
Honeypots is a word used specifically in computer security, not in Law Enforcement.
In criminal law it is called entrapment, commonly it is known as stings, and it is really messy for law enforcement to make use of it, in some countries it is just illegal any sort of entrapment.
kingprawn, you bring valid points, but the method used to manipulate the IPS is not traceable to anyone.
I will not discuss the nature and the method employed, but nobody will be able to trace this to anyone.
One way to prove that this is neither LEA nor "honeypots", this it would be restricting this order only for foreigners.
If I do that, it will kill two birds with one stone:
1) Then nobody from Scotland Yard will be able to try a "controlled" purchase. (although, even if they did, it would be untraceable for the special nature of this access)
2) It would be obvious that I am not in collusion with the UK LE, simply because it would be a security nightmare to be offering passports to anyone in the world.
3) I have several requests, and I am confident that all of them will love their passports when they receive it.
I just refuse to buy:
but the method used to manipulate the IPS is not traceable to anyone.
I will not discuss the nature and the method employed, but nobody will be able to trace this to anyone.
We cant probe any further to this statement cos anyone knows the level of info for it to become believeable would also mean detailing the 'exploit' in the system - which would couldnt happen if you did legitly sell them anyway.
My point about the price still remains untouched - it's just so fucking low for what the item is worth its crazy.
Your point of:
2) It would be obvious that I am not in collusion with the UK LE, simply because it would be a security nightmare to be offering passports to anyone in the world.
Is just your word and nothing more - it has no value (i mean look at point 3 that came afterwards!)
In addition here even if you're reply here made sense - dont mean to be mean - the other option i implied was ur a scammer
qvel i agree honeypots are known for looking legit - if feds are involved theyr not going to make a 1week account with 7 100% transactions - theyll do the whole lot - remember cops are on a payroll, so theyd put in the time and effort making as many accounts and transacting between themselves and posting on the forum etc over months (i personally think Limetless seems odd in his posts in response to this thread)
But in my opinion its just a scam
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(i personally think Limetless seems odd in his posts in response to this thread)
A few things KingPrawn.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't run your mouth about me like that because you don't know shit. Have you seen my listings? How could I sell that if I was bent you fucking moron? All off my drugs are classified in the U.K.
I said that I could sell these to customers that would want to come into the U.K so I could test them without paying myself, if they work you can sure as shit bet I will be back on here to make sure people know about it. You should be grateful that I'm willing to put my dick on the chopping block to test these, not bitch at my motives.
I don't know if Peach is legit. He/She could be on the level, he/she could be bent. I look at the feedback and I'm seeing so-far-so-good so I'm just taking a punt with someone else's money.
I'll take that apology to go now KingPrawn, with a side order of humble pie and an assortment of condiments. Prick.
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(i personally think Limetless seems odd in his posts in response to this thread)
A few things KingPrawn.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't run your mouth about me like that because you don't know shit. Have you seen my listings? How could I sell that if I was bent you fucking moron? All off my drugs are classified in the U.K.
I said that I could sell these to customers that would want to come into the U.K so I could test them without paying myself, if they work you can sure as shit bet I will be back on here to make sure people know about it. You should be grateful that I'm willing to put my dick on the chopping block to test these, not bitch at my motives.
I don't know if Peach is legit. He/She could be on the level, he/she could be bent. I look at the feedback and I'm seeing so-far-so-good so I'm just taking a punt with someone else's money.
I'll take that apology to go now KingPrawn, with a side order of humble pie and an assortment of condiments. Prick.
Lol, you're not getting an apology from me - i've got my opinion and that's that.
In all honesty sounds bs u taking a 'punt' with someone elses money - im guessing this 'person' who ur taking a punt for wants a passport - if peach turns out to be scam then what r u going to say to that person?
Im guessing ull go back empty handed with their money gone right? - that means ur a scammer as far as theyr concerned - or u pay them back with ur money - ie no longer a 'punt'. In all honesty what does that say about you as a vendor anyway that u consider someone elses money a punt?
I dunno seems fishy - so ill stick by my original thought where i think ur associated w/ peach and u were going to eventually say u got the passport so either others get scammed or the honeypot swings into action.
Suck on it baby
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Lol I'm not selling it on here. At the end of the day, the person who wants it knows it's a risk. How would you find out otherwise?
You know shit all about me so instead of talking crap go and choke on a dick.
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Lol I'm not selling it on here. At the end of the day, the person who wants it knows it's a risk. How would you find out otherwise?
You know shit all about me so instead of talking crap go and choke on a dick.
Doesn't matter where you sell it - your a shit vendor - doesnt matter what product you sell or where.
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While kingprawn has good bases for his doubts, and yet, he is pretty much ignorant about the market price.
Regarding to qvel, well he is just a paranoid schizophrenic who can't reason.
I offer a calmed down empirical approach: "time will show", they say; and it is showing that I am a pretty fucking good with my word.
Good night fellas, those who trusted me, they will get awesome goods.
Those who distrusted me, well, they will regret to have passed this unique opportunity.
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Did you get my email? If so please respond ASAP.
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Qvel is neither He, nor Paranoid, nor Schizo.
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2) It would be obvious that I am not in collusion with the UK LE, simply because it would be a security nightmare to be offering passports to anyone in the world.
AHAHAHA! lol wut?
No, no indeed. Of course.
This is /absolutely/ not the sort of matter that would /in any way/ concern other nations and elicit their help NOR that of, say, Europol or Interpol. Furthermore who on Earth would be so idiotic as to believe that passports could in any way be flagged or tracked? I mean that sort of document, once roaming free in the wild, is almost entirely untraceable. I severely doubt that such incomprehensible undertaking as databasing and registering them could ever have even been /considered/ by any nation. I mean, just think about it; why for one you would have to have every holder of such a document actually present the item for inspection whenever they, e.g., crossed a border. The resources required must obviously be far beyond the current technological capabilities of this world.
Anyway as we are all well aware the British security services' only concern is to ensure a steady supply of tea for Her Royal Majesty's delectation. To imagination that they would stoop so low as to concern themselves with such mundane matters as the defense of the realm is an insult to the hard work they actually task themselves with.
LUNACY!
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Heh, qvel, as I said, you are a scaremonger. You should really start researching before panicking. You even don't use the terminology right. Your constant usage of the misnomer reveals your lack of discipline and your real area of amateurish interest: computers.
Honeypots is a word used specifically in computer security, not in Law Enforcement.
In criminal law it is called entrapment, commonly it is known as stings, and it is really messy for law enforcement to make use of it, in some countries it is just illegal any sort of entrapment.
kingprawn, you bring valid points, but the method used to manipulate the IPS is not traceable to anyone.
I will not discuss the nature and the method employed, but nobody will be able to trace this to anyone.
One way to prove that this is neither LEA nor "honeypots", this it would be restricting this order only for foreigners.
If I do that, it will kill two birds with one stone:
1) Then nobody from Scotland Yard will be able to try a "controlled" purchase. (although, even if they did, it would be untraceable for the special nature of this access)
2) It would be obvious that I am not in collusion with the UK LE, simply because it would be a security nightmare to be offering passports to anyone in the world.
3) I have several requests, and I am confident that all of them will love their passports when they receive it.
OH SWEET JESUS!
The rest of this too! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!