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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: joywind on May 17, 2012, 08:15 am
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What are some good alternatives to MDMA? I want something that produces a similar empathetic and euphoric experience, but hopefully without the potential neurotoxic effects.
Are Methylone and 2C-B comparable to MDMA? How does MDA compare?
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I asked this exact question under "Rave supplements" title a few days ago with no real response other than acid, 2c-b, methylone.
I think the neurotoxicity/side effects are a result of the desired effects and no drug is going to be able to replace that, without causing similar damage. That said, I have not read much about methylones neurotoxicity, perhaps because it is less popular. It is meant to be stimulating like a larger dose of MDMA can be which is what I'm looking for really.
I don't want to do speed to be honest, seems like purity is low and being a robot doesn't appeal to me.
2c-b/acid sounds alright for a rave/party but on psychedelics I never really want to dance or talk to others.
There's always alcohol for raves! That plus caffeine is good!
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Drugs effect people differently, so you might end up with a few conflicting reports!
IMO the closest thing I've used to molly is M-one, but I've got a mate who finds it too much, he can't control his buzz as well as he can with MDMA.
I'd recommend getting and trying them ALL!!! Worked for me!!!
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definitely try methylone, it isn't as bad
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try those. Not sure about the neurotoxic properties though.
MDA as well, but I've heard it's potential more neurotoxic.
Just pre and post load your rolls and space them out, youll be fine.
Life is about gives and takes, you can't have a drug that has no side effects or is 100% safe to do all the time.
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I had a great time doing 2-CB, did 30mg orally. Got a little cold and felt a bit of nausea at first start up but then it went away quickly. Had some decent visuals and listening to music was great so it's definitely something I would like to use during a rave. Although the next morning I had a killer headache, not sure if it was from the drug or just the lack of water.
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Thanks for the suggestions
There's always alcohol for raves! That plus caffeine is good!
Yes, acid makes me too introverted to be of any use in a social setting.
I had a great time doing 2-CB, did 30mg orally. Got a little cold and felt a bit of nausea at first start up but then it went away quickly. Had some decent visuals and listening to music was great so it's definitely something I would like to use during a rave. Although the next morning I had a killer headache, not sure if it was from the drug or just the lack of water.
Does 2-CB impede your ability to communicate with people (as LSD tends to do for me).
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Nah, not really at the dose I took anyway, was chatting with my girlfriend on skype just fine. Although I got side tracked at times because I was just playing around with my hand by waving it in front of me lol, did that effect where I saw the traces of my hand when I moved it if you know what I mean, was pretty cool.
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If you're willing too you could try some RC's such as B2 or Mephedrone. These produce the euphoric feeling which some find more intense and pleasurable then mdma, and a simular loved up feeling, but this isn't as good as the mdma love..
BUT they don't last as long 100mins max (sorted), both produce craving when the effects wear off and remember, they are RC's!
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i would suggest ketamine. in small doses, used infrequently it is pretty safe. it provides a sense of nice euphoria and gives a mild stimulant effect at low doses. i find it perfect for a rave setting. but thats just me. if your interested do some research :)
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2c-c in higher doses have been known to have a similar euphoria to MDMA though it's more mellow than stimulating. 2c-i is a bit more stimulating though the euphoria is different, more giddy than joy.
I read that 25c-NBOMe gives a MDx-like euphoria with very little body load (haven't had a chance to try that one yet tyough).
25i-NBOMe is more readily available and lasts longer but it has a bigger body load (there is some MDx-like euphoria but it's pretty light).