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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Ahoyhoy on October 17, 2012, 07:33 pm
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Obama or Romney?
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Fuck. Are those the only two choices we have? Which one is for more freedom/liberty?
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Romney is a titch more evil, but they can both fuck off.
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Both are globalist puppets. If you pick the lesser of two evils you will always get evil.
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Ron Paul.
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Gary Johnson
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both puppets controled by the money men but romney seems like a complete twat
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During the 2nd debate Romney was not answering questions directly but instead was more concerned with promoting his agenda. On the other hand, Obama was answering questions very well, and did a great job of counter-punching.
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Both these guuys looked like they wanted to suck each others dicks.
This I accept as my friend in work is gay and in gay clubs there is lots of coke!!!
Also nobody causes trouble like in the nightclubs and your English pubs!
Eson
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Ron Paul was easily the best candidate, followed by Gary Johnson. Ron Paul was unfairly shut down by the shady GOP. Gary Johnson is now the only candidate on the ballot that is Presidential material, despite what mainstream says. He's the only candidate that can say that he's FOR liberty. Romney and Obama are the Tyranny candidates....
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Everyone I know supported Ron Paul but in the polls he was constantly low.
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I hope that Obama will tackle some more controversial theme's in his 2nd term. If he get's reelected, that is.
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this poll sucks we all know everyone on sr is on welfare.
ROMNEY AINT TAKIN MY WELFARE NO SIR-E
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Romney is a titch more evil, but they can both fuck off.
Both are globalist puppets. If you pick the lesser of two evils you will always get evil.
Ron Paul.
Ron Paul was easily the best candidate, followed by Gary Johnson. Ron Paul was unfairly shut down by the shady GOP. Gary Johnson is now the only candidate on the ballot that is Presidential material, despite what mainstream says. He's the only candidate that can say that he's FOR liberty. Romney and Obama are the Tyranny candidates....
All of this.
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I hope Romney gets in. I used to love those documentaries about what a fuckin twat Geroge Bush was and since Obama got in there haven't been any made. Romney looks like a freaking idiot of George W proportions so it would be cool if he was elected...if only for my personal viewing pleasure.
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I think I'll be laughing for weeks over the whole "Paul Ryan sneaking into a soup kitchen to wash dishes that weren't even dirty" publicity stunt.
Oh and Gary Johnson for me please.
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Haha, imagine Rick Santorum would become president, that certainly would be the funniest shit ever!
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Obama = hes center right, slightly progressive so better than the other nutter. (people who call him a socialist r communist are retards and havent even the fundamental understanding of politics)
Romney= Sectarian, Sexist, he is'nt secular, hes far right, a rampant capitalist and overtly religious, science is real, fantasy aint...
Go Obama! Its a Shame Ron Paul didnt get enough momentum, fucking lobbyists...
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Genetically splice them and create Rombaney. Half Mormon, half gangster which would result in the most convincing fudged soundbites the world has ever seen......
God only knows how far the human race would evolve under the rule of the Rombaney!
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Splice in some Chinese so the overloads can control him better.
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Gary Motherfucking Johnson.
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Really I know your going to life at me when I say this, but LulzSec type of group needs to come back. I think Trolling the election and demostrating that the people with the real power are people that understand technology. Thats what the anon Movement was about. LulzSec just took it more destructively. Really I dont understand why there isnt a movement to protest whats going. Republicians Talk about how the government is corrupt, but yet its ok to fuck over Ron Paul for the sake of Romney. Thats corruption right there. Obama and the going green failures, yea I mean that pretty odvious too. No serious investigation, just get reported and people move on. Its sucks because If I was a private corp, and did that to investors. I would be in prison. Its just really sad oh people dont care. And I feel like I have no where to go. Because I dont want to get covered in bullshit.
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hah Trick question Gray Johnson - Libertarian Make that ugly dude President and there would be real change.
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This should become Gary Johnson's election poster:
http://media1.policymic.com/site/articles/15380/photo.jpg
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If SR was a state, it would clearly be a staunchly democratic motherfucker....according to the poll results that is.
It does beg the question 'where are all the conservatives? Maybe they're the ones that ripped us off and fucked off with all our BTCs.
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2016 is an Anti-Obama documentary. Freaking hilarious ^_^ Romney wins I defect from this shithole.
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True conservatives think Romney is scum.
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how about Rombama, they both have pros and cons IMO, if we could combine the good in both of them, might have something.
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How about none of the above, why the fuck do you have to vote?
Lets see, we are on SR for a reason...so why even give a fuck what voters want?
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The amount of people that voted for Obama in this poll is ALARMING. Especially, considering all of you on SR should be EXTREMELY pro liberty, something which Obama is definitely not (not saying Romney is) but holy shit. Very surprised/disappointed.
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Most of us voted before Gary Johnson was an option. It was only Obama or Romney and that's why the first page we say Obama is slightly less evil.
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I know I might get blasted for this but I quite like Obama but it doesn't matter what I think because I can't vote.
If you guys want Boris instead though, we can loan him to you. :)
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Nah Obama is a cool dude, he's got swag.
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Obama.
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No one but Paul.
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Ron Paul till I die. Before him I didn't pay attention to politics. Hopefully hes alive for next election.
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OK so right now we have the choice realistically between two candidates and a pipe dream for a third. obama and Romney aren't very far from being the same person, and Gary Johnson is different, but since he was not allowed in the debates, nobody knows what he would do in the oval office. All that aside, and us Americans are voting between the two evils, we have the choice to vote libertarian. I an very in line with the libertarian agenda, but it scares me that libertarian votes are votes sometimes being pulled away from Obama because they are voting to change the status quo. This gives republicans an advantage, even though the majority of people who vote libertarian (in my area at least) would choose Obama as a second choice. Now these people vote based upon what they believe, and I believe in what the libertarian party is selling, but I do NOT think we are ready for that kind of real change. That isn't like changing your socks, It's like learning to make yarn to knit your own fucking socks yourself overnight. Now to my point. I am 100% PRO Gary Johnson, but I will not waste my vote on him because I not only don't think we are ready for that kind of change, but also I DON'T FEEL that enough people will waste their vote on him to stir a fuss....what if a libertarian got 3 electoral votes? to they just call it a tie then? or do they take the libertarians out back with a hose till they are republican votes :)
Anyway. I support Johnson, but voting Obama for one simple reason. When I look into Obama's eyes on TV I see something in there that means well, and when I look into Mitt's...I wonder what he sees when he looks into the mirror.
love you guys all.
be back in about a week, takin some time off from this online thing.
wretched
afterthought: please someone write in wretched on your ballot and post a picture of it (if you can) up here to brighten my day a bit :)
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OK so right now we have the choice realistically between two candidates and a pipe dream for a third. obama and Romney aren't very far from being the same person, and Gary Johnson is different, but since he was not allowed in the debates, nobody knows what he would do in the oval office. All that aside, and us Americans are voting between the two evils, we have the choice to vote libertarian. I an very in line with the libertarian agenda, but it scares me that libertarian votes are votes sometimes being pulled away from Obama because they are voting to change the status quo. This gives republicans an advantage, even though the majority of people who vote libertarian (in my area at least) would choose Obama as a second choice. Now these people vote based upon what they believe, and I believe in what the libertarian party is selling, but I do NOT think we are ready for that kind of real change. That isn't like changing your socks, It's like learning to make yarn to knit your own fucking socks yourself overnight. Now to my point. I am 100% PRO Gary Johnson, but I will not waste my vote on him because I not only don't think we are ready for that kind of change, but also I DON'T FEEL that enough people will waste their vote on him to stir a fuss....what if a libertarian got 3 electoral votes? to they just call it a tie then? or do they take the libertarians out back with a hose till they are republican votes :)
Anyway. I support Johnson, but voting Obama for one simple reason. When I look into Obama's eyes on TV I see something in there that means well, and when I look into Mitt's...I wonder what he sees when he looks into the mirror.
love you guys all.
be back in about a week, takin some time off from this online thing.
wretched
afterthought: please someone write in wretched on your ballot and post a picture of it (if you can) up here to brighten my day a bit :)
I sort of feel that you are missing the point. I'm not voting for Gary Johnson solely because he would make a better president, its also a stance to the major candidates that my vote cannot be bought. If these third parties get just 4% of the popular vote their idealogies are forced to be mentioned on the news. This entire race there hasn't been one mention of the drug war and its negative impacts on society. I want Obama to be challenged with it until we finally get his view on it. The best way to do it is to participate in the election and show whoever is elected that I will stand by my viewpoints even if the major parties will not.
Even in the event of Johnson winning (which is near impossible) it doesn't mean a new America will exist on day one. He still needs to legislate all of his views and they need to pass through congress. Its more likely we would just get an American that leans closer in the direction of libertarianism than a new democracy.
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the real question here is:
douche or turd
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the real question here is:
douche or turd
Turd Sandwitch
I honestly have no Idea who is the lesser of the two Evils.
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I think Gary Johnson will take a surprising percentage of the votes this election. Not likely enough to win, since third party candidates aren't even able to participate in the debates - which is a new level of fucked up. Hopefully one day we can stop bipartisan and make sure every candidate has an equal chance.
Though out of Romney and Obama, I would prefer Obama to win. Putting Romney in office will only be a slap in the face to every bit of progress we've made in the last 50 years as a society.
sdesu
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What's a politics thread without an Onion article?
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-tunes-in-to-see-which-sociopath-more-likabl,29946/
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The amount of people that voted for Obama in this poll is ALARMING. Especially, considering all of you on SR should be EXTREMELY pro liberty, something which Obama is definitely not (not saying Romney is) but holy shit. Very surprised/disappointed.
Right?
(The following is from a compilation of numerous SR posts from numerous SR posters)
Hi my name is "anonymous moron on SR" I love cameras...Dolphins...long walks on the beach...and totalitarian states (regardless party dumbasses)...so I vote...pop a pill...buy some on the black market...pop another...AND VOTE some more...why you may ask, well its simple, im an idiot...
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Obama is by no means "less evil" than Romney. Everyone claims to want change, yet they allow the same one party system to get elected, and yes, democrats and republicans are the same, it is only a matter of how they choose to waste OUR money, which doesn't even vary that greatly from each other. You want things to be right in this country, you want freedom, civil liberties? You vote Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, there are no other options plain and simple guys.
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I am an anarchist, no state, no government what I do here is an extension of how I live my life outside of here.
This is simply another available, albeit more secure, approach to business as usual.
Screw them all, and screw those who support them.
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Wow. It's neck and neck after a late surge from Gary Johnson
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I hate being forced to vote just to view a stupid poll.
Even more I hate statism
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Alright; prediction before even reading the thread. Obama for the pot smoking hippies/left, Ron Paul for the guns & beer/right, nobody for Romney.
Now to see how close I got it. (Damn, I don't even smoke and am still getting put with the hippies.)
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Ah, didn't even see Gary Johnson as an option. But then again, nether do the voters so it's more a symbolic thing then a practical one. Don't get me wrong, in the first election I could vote in I voted Libertarian, and got the fist of two Bush terms. :-\
Also see a couple of posts that aren't for anyone but only against Obama; take it that those are from the "he's a secrete Muslim terrorist who was born in Kenya" crowd.
Lets stop copping out with Gary Johnson / Ron Paul and actually make a decision. All you're doing is abdicating your vote to those who do decide, so why bother voting. Might as well be voting for Micky Mouse for all the good it'll do.
Honestly, I don't care if you go for Romney or Obama, but you have to decide or else we might as well just scrap the representative democracy thing right now. And no, they're not the same. They're quite alike on most things, but they do have enough differences to make it matter.
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Obama has already failed the pot smokers. One of his campaign promises from the first go round was that they wouldn't pursue medical marijuana, turns out that was a fat mouthed lie. Because that's exactly what they've been doing.
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If Gary were a realistic option, him, but otherwise Obama all the way.
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Gary Johnson
QFT!
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It just occurred to me... any way Johnson is a Republican plant in order to syphon votes from Obama? I like him, but will vote Obama. The fact that I like him makes me skeptical though. I remember how Nader essentially cost Al Gore the presidency. I doubt that the Republican party forgot that either.
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I have to ask, are all of you really this stupid?
You vote for obama/romney/johnson whatever- you vote for the system that causes you to be HERE! Avoiding that system, maybe its time to try something different? After all we get along here right? Business goes well, sure there are the assholes- shit I am barely a month in and am already dealing with one. But thats the cost of business, AND more importantly the cost of freedom!
Keep voting, cause it DONT work for shit- if you opened your eyes just a little tiny bit you would see that.
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libertyseller you are an ignorant fuck. Calling everyone stupid we are having fun voting on a silly little poll on the road. No one needs you insulting them or spouting your gospel. Open your eyes because you have no idea if you think you can extrapolate meaningful ideology on anyone from an anonymous forum.
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libertyseller you are an ignorant fuck. Calling everyone stupid we are having fun voting on a silly little poll on the road. No one needs you insulting them or spouting your gospel. Open your eyes because you have no idea if you think you can extrapolate meaningful ideology on anyone from an anonymous forum.
If you vote in the USA you are stupid ;) its simple really- especially if you are on SR for buying/selling you show more then your stupidity. ;)
Calling me ignorant, doesnt change that fact.
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I live in a Medical Marijuana state, my vote helped make that happen. I grow more cannabis than I can smoke without worry. When cops came to bust a friend the feds stopped the cops from ripping his shit up because his grow was state legal. Your anarchy is tired and can't work, exact same corruption will always rise up.
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I live in a Medical Marijuana state, my vote helped make that happen. I grow more cannabis than I can smoke without worry. When cops came to bust a friend the feds stopped the cops from ripping his shit up because his grow was state legal. Your anarchy is tired and can't work, exact same corruption will always rise up.
California - Medical Grow State
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/usa-crime-california-idUSL2E8F316A20120403
http://www.examiner.com/article/california-is-fed-up-with-the-feds-mmj-advocates-growing-disapproval
Washington - Medical Grow State
http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2012/08/29/Drug-Enforcement-Administration-Sets-Its-Sights-Washington-State
Oregon - Medical Grow State
http://www.registerguard.com/web/newslocalnews/28772727-41/marijuana-medical-agents-associated-attorney.html.csp
Whats tired is you statists insisting that the regular trampling of individuals is NECESSARY and then coming here...why? You are on SR to get the things YOU CANNOT get somewhere else OR to sell something you cannot sell ELSEWHERE, this alone proves my point.
STUPID VOTERS
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LibertySeller- You forgot to mention Colorado ;)
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Quite a few more. Regardless, this is obviously a waste of time with narrow attacks.
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Quite a few more. Regardless, this is obviously a waste of time with narrow attacks.
Yes, amazing how my money making on a site in black market goods keeps me busy, far to busy to run down every single instance of FEDS stomping on LEGAL growers - idiot voter
THIS site is the epitome of ANARCHY it works, we function well, sure your an idiot, but you havent been caught yet...;) ANARCHY works!
On a side note, I am not attacking, not at all, I am simply using the word that best explains actions without sane reason.
LibertySeller- You forgot to mention Colorado ;)
lol, and a few others
And several THOUSAND instances of feds stomping on the little guy regardless the state law
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Obama all the way.
While i like many points Gary johnson makes ,i don't like intellectual extremism.
Sure it's better constructed,makes alot of sense but is just masking plans for an extreme society.
It will land the world in an even worse state of corporatism.We are already going to far in that direction.
It is already fucking up the world as we speak and the system isn't working.
Giving compagnies carte blanche is pretty much insane!
Now if Obama could work on the good points Gary makes in regards of drug policy and more liberty in other aspects he would be the perfect candidate.But you need to re-educate society on those topics too.
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Quite a few more. Regardless, this is obviously a waste of time with narrow attacks.
Yes, amazing how my money making on a site in black market goods keeps me busy, far to busy to run down every single instance of FEDS stomping on LEGAL growers - idiot voter
THIS site is the epitome of ANARCHY it works, we function well, sure your an idiot, but you havent been caught yet...;) ANARCHY works!
On a side note, I am not attacking, not at all, I am simply using the word that best explains actions without sane reason.
I think seeing this site as proof of anarchy working is slightly naive.
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choom gang ;-)
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Quite a few more. Regardless, this is obviously a waste of time with narrow attacks.
Yes, amazing how my money making on a site in black market goods keeps me busy, far to busy to run down every single instance of FEDS stomping on LEGAL growers - idiot voter
THIS site is the epitome of ANARCHY it works, we function well, sure your an idiot, but you havent been caught yet...;) ANARCHY works!
On a side note, I am not attacking, not at all, I am simply using the word that best explains actions without sane reason.
I think seeing this site as proof of anarchy working is slightly naive.
Judging from the absence of conservatives it's proof that SR is almost a twat-free zone. I like the fact that there are libertarian dreamers amongst us. Better than being surrounded by Republican cynics.
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love that -
And think about it, what is the definition of anarchy except NO central leadership/ or state. We operate within a VERY loosely defined set of rules MUTUALLY agreed upon by those doing business here (agree to the rules or dont do business here) and IT WORKS! "
Thats anarchy! Thats freedom! ;)
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Obama or Romney
No thanks, Gary Johnson for me. The one thing I hope that comes of this election cycle is that after 4 more years of the same (Dem vs Repub, makes no difference imo) everybody who was all about Ron Paul and real liberty and freedom, will rise up again and MAKE the libertarian viewpoint be heard. The media and the Dem and Repub establishments certainly won't do it for us. Ron won the primary/caucus in quite a few states but yet some how is completely dismissed. Like somebody else here has already said, when you actually talk to real people, there are tons that support libertarianism.
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Quite a few more. Regardless, this is obviously a waste of time with narrow attacks.
Yes, amazing how my money making on a site in black market goods keeps me busy, far to busy to run down every single instance of FEDS stomping on LEGAL growers - idiot voter
THIS site is the epitome of ANARCHY it works, we function well, sure your an idiot, but you havent been caught yet...;) ANARCHY works!
On a side note, I am not attacking, not at all, I am simply using the word that best explains actions without sane reason.
I think seeing this site as proof of anarchy working is slightly naive.
Judging from the absence of conservatives it's proof that SR is almost a twat-free zone. I like the fact that there are libertarian dreamers amongst us. Better than being surrounded by Republican cynics.
I am fairly conservative in a lot of ways myself lol. Soz fella. :P
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"conservatives" go libertarian just as often, if not more so than liberals, so don't give me this "Gary Johnson is siphoning votes from Obama" BS. You do know Gary was a republican as Governor of NM, and was in the republican presidential primary for a short time?
If you want to not vote b/c your vote "doesn't matter", or if you like Gary but won't vote for him b/c he's 3rd party, please reconsider. I mean come on, stand up for something! And it takes, what, 15 minutes? In many states you are legally guaranteed the ability to take paid time off work to vote.
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Here's the real question, will Obama declare martial law when he loses outright? blahahahaha
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The joke is that US citizens think it makes a difference.
To reuse the old Alien Vs Predator movie slogan: whoever wins, we lose.
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The joke is that US citizens think it makes a difference.
To reuse the old Alien Vs Predator movie slogan: whoever wins, we lose.
^^^ Other then myself, THIS IS THE TRUEST statement YET! ^^^
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Quite a few more. Regardless, this is obviously a waste of time with narrow attacks.
Yes, amazing how my money making on a site in black market goods keeps me busy, far to busy to run down every single instance of FEDS stomping on LEGAL growers - idiot voter
THIS site is the epitome of ANARCHY it works, we function well, sure your an idiot, but you havent been caught yet...;) ANARCHY works!
On a side note, I am not attacking, not at all, I am simply using the word that best explains actions without sane reason.
I think seeing this site as proof of anarchy working is slightly naive.
Can you expand on this?