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Title: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 17, 2013, 05:33 am
This is mostly in reply to that latest suicide thread.

Why? I mean, there's heroin, LSD, meth, shrooms, crack, cocaine, opium, DMT, goodass marijuana to smoke at relax, benzos to help, espcially with anxiety and MDMA/psychedelic comedown (I slept 6=8 hours after dosing 160mcg LSD with 40mg Valium) so much fucking shit you can use day in and day out and have a fucking blast..

Does anyone else agree with me? Sure, this world sucks fucking cocks, but at least it gives you a respite in the form of sweetass drugs.

I love drugs.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: grdr on June 17, 2013, 07:51 am
yeah just one thing... no money.. there's people out there who don't even have the money to rent a place to stay in
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 17, 2013, 08:18 am
I know, but there' always shit you can do. Prostitute yourself, give me BJs and shit. Isn't that better than dying? Fuck.

A lot of these suicidal people HAVE some money to spend, too! Damn, I have MDD, and I'm depressed as HELL, but I'd NEVER commit suicide. I have way too much fun with drugs. I love them.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: Ron Swanson on June 17, 2013, 08:28 am
what is it man, drugs or taffy, which do you love more? yeah drugs are nice but they don't cure depression or anxiety for a lot of people/aren't a permanent solution. benzos tend to exacerbate depression. anti depressants made me so intent on killing myself to the point i was spending 5+ hours a day reading shit and making some bonkers plans. i'm guessing you've never suffered from depression but if you've ever had a bad trip just imagine that feeling, less intense but a constant uncomfortable nagging that makes you feel so shit you just want it to fuck off and nothing you do helps. it affects every single part of your life, even your ability to enjoy drugs!!!! WHAT?! no really.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: Ron Swanson on June 17, 2013, 08:32 am
ohhh weird i thought you were going to be one of those "mental health problems aren't real" kinda people. lack of support network. friends, family, income, home and hope for the future.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 17, 2013, 08:40 am
what is it man, drugs or taffy, which do you love more? yeah drugs are nice but they don't cure depression or anxiety for a lot of people/aren't a permanent solution. benzos tend to exacerbate depression. anti depressants made me so intent on killing myself to the point i was spending 5+ hours a day reading shit and making some bonkers plans. i'm guessing you've never suffered from depression but if you've ever had a bad trip just imagine that feeling, less intense but a constant uncomfortable nagging that makes you feel so shit you just want it to fuck off and nothing you do helps. it affects every single part of your life, even your ability to enjoy drugs!!!! WHAT?! no really.

I do drugs because of depression and SO much more, mentally and physically. I would've killed myelf by now without them, for real.

ohhh weird i thought you were going to be one of those "mental health problems aren't real" kinda people. lack of support network. friends, family, income, home and hope for the future.
No way, Ron. I have huge mental health problems and I use drugs to cope. I'm able to cope with them and I'm trying to understand why people don't.

Yeah man, definitely not like that. I know mental health problems are TOTALLY really. I've seen them first hand. I've been in and out of psych wards. It's not fun,

Drugs keep me out of them... for real. :/
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: Somepup on June 17, 2013, 12:06 pm
I know, but there' always shit you can do. Prostitute yourself, give me BJs and shit. Isn't that better than dying? Fuck.

lol very good

Aswell as drugs there's plenty of beautiful woman out there to be had, OH OH and the next gen of consoles is just around the corner also! :D
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: Ron Swanson on June 17, 2013, 05:53 pm
what is it man, drugs or taffy, which do you love more? yeah drugs are nice but they don't cure depression or anxiety for a lot of people/aren't a permanent solution. benzos tend to exacerbate depression. anti depressants made me so intent on killing myself to the point i was spending 5+ hours a day reading shit and making some bonkers plans. i'm guessing you've never suffered from depression but if you've ever had a bad trip just imagine that feeling, less intense but a constant uncomfortable nagging that makes you feel so shit you just want it to fuck off and nothing you do helps. it affects every single part of your life, even your ability to enjoy drugs!!!! WHAT?! no really.

I do drugs because of depression and SO much more, mentally and physically. I would've killed myelf by now without them, for real.

ohhh weird i thought you were going to be one of those "mental health problems aren't real" kinda people. lack of support network. friends, family, income, home and hope for the future.
No way, Ron. I have huge mental health problems and I use drugs to cope. I'm able to cope with them and I'm trying to understand why people don't.

Yeah man, definitely not like that. I know mental health problems are TOTALLY really. I've seen them first hand. I've been in and out of psych wards. It's not fun,

Drugs keep me out of them... for real. :/

yeah i'd most likely be long gone without weed too but at the same time i piss myself off because of it. it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem lol.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: mary666 on June 17, 2013, 06:14 pm
Some people's lives aren't worth living.

Drugs aren't everything and you sound like a real ignorant fucking idiot saying that!

What if you had burns to %90 of your body and you were riddled with cancer, no home to go to and nobody who loved you and no money?

What if you just had had enough and been living life Christopher Reeve for all your life?

What if you were born with some deformity and serious brain injuries and had nobody or no reason to want to go on?

Life isn't all about drugs!

- JWM
Fu**in spot on pal  ;)
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: BlackIris on June 17, 2013, 06:44 pm
Some people's lives aren't worth living.

Drugs aren't everything and you sound like a real ignorant fucking idiot saying that!

What if you had burns to %90 of your body and you were riddled with cancer, no home to go to and nobody who loved you and no money?

What if you just had had enough and been living life Christopher Reeve for all your life?

What if you were born with some deformity and serious brain injuries and had nobody or no reason to want to go on?

Life isn't all about drugs!

- JWM

Your body is not your soul and you can live so many lives with your soul alone, not needing your body at all. Thinking that everything is ended just because your body is functional no more is the typical misunderstanding of people that have experienced only this material plane.

If I would accidentally fall in a condition that my body is useful no more I will simply fully go into the so-called astral or etheric plane and live there the rest of my days. No need of arms, legs, eyes or ears there.
And guess what? Drugs are actually a way on which you can do that (there are many more but certain drugs can give the opportunity to people that don't know them or have not the background to do them, to be able to do the same), so, you see, you tried contradicting what the OP said (and btw even if you were right you could have been less rude, no need to go all angry on a discussion) but you actually have proven his point. Good job.

Btw either with conditions that scientifically are associated with brain damage etc. there is NO proof that your consciousness is not there (actually there are more proofs of the contrary), and that you are not, actually, perfectly happy as you are where you are. But this last is a difficult topic and even I have personal doubts about what I would do in that situation.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 17, 2013, 07:35 pm
would any one be willing to throw in on some ayahuasca tea for me?
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: angel555 on June 17, 2013, 07:46 pm
Using drugs day in and day out for a length of time would  definitley leave you in a somewhat 'unhappy state' though.

but I get what your saying :)
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 17, 2013, 07:52 pm
I don't think you need a reason to kill yourself, much less a good one.
oh, drab, a fly landed up in mine yonder soup. *Racks Shotgun* **BOOM**
if life is yours to decide how you see it and your responsability alone to deal with the repurcussions then it only follows you have a right to death, and indeed when you keep your mouth shut generaly people let you do as you will without trying to intervein even when it ought to be quiet obvious somethings up. most people are just selfish pricks that way and usually only say shit when they have to to make themselves not feel like they are making a bad social impression but that doesn't necesarily reflect what they really think or feel. ..as complex as the absolute nature of thought and feeling can be.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 17, 2013, 08:20 pm
Some people's lives aren't worth living.

Drugs aren't everything and you sound like a real ignorant fucking idiot saying that!

What if you had burns to %90 of your body and you were riddled with cancer, no home to go to and nobody who loved you and no money?

What if you just had had enough and been living life Christopher Reeve for all your life?

What if you were born with some deformity and serious brain injuries and had nobody or no reason to want to go on?

Life isn't all about drugs!

- JWM

I AM riddled with cancer, you ignorant prick. I'm saying that drugs are a better route than suicide. Sure, you'll have a shitty life, but at least you'll chemically feel good.

At least you're alive and there's a chance you can get help. Don't be an idiot.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: Kief on June 17, 2013, 08:52 pm
I agree.  I'd rather be alive and addicted to a shit ton of drugs and homeless than be dead.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: Ron Swanson on June 17, 2013, 09:15 pm
wow a divide between pro lifers and pro choicers. fancy that happening.. :D
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 17, 2013, 11:16 pm
I like riddles! Maybe I can help you :D

sorry, no hard feelings. I'm just playing . :)  cause I'm a joker and a smoker and a midnight toker Bl
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 18, 2013, 01:37 am
the only reason to be pro life is fear of eternal damnation.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: RFTS on June 18, 2013, 03:33 am
Because drugs aren't the end all solution for people with a serious mental illness.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 18, 2013, 04:10 am
^^^^that.
i cant go to a doc and get my mind fixed. they have no tools to touch it, no methods for repairing they don't even know what it looks like.  they only know vague broud general concepts at best. I don't belong here and I'd rather not be here.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: BlackIris on June 18, 2013, 09:25 am
the only reason to be pro life is fear of eternal damnation.

Don't say idiocies, please.

The fact that you really believe that just because you have maybe experienced less than 1% of what you call "life" you know everything about it makes me understand how presumptuous you are.

Your are annoyed and bored about life just because you approach it thinking you know already everything about it, so you cannot see nothing beyond the artificial filter you are creating by yourself; you are looking at your personal picture of the world that you yourself created so that you know everything about it and you exchange it for the real world, blaming it because you are annoyed and bothered of looking at it only in that way. You have entrapped yourself with your own hands and you neither understand it.

There are two ways to live life: the first is to approach life thinking you know already everything about it and being sure of what's this and what's that to the point that anything is a mystery anymore and you get bored and annoyed of everything, the second is to instead threat everything as a mystery, not  being sure of what's what and approaching everything without filters so that you never know what it's going to happen next and nothing is predictable and monotonous, so that life finally becomes magic and nothing is certain and fixed anymore.

Instead of blaming life, blame yourself and change. As I said to you in PM, stop being a slave and become a master of yourself.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 18, 2013, 10:53 am
the only reason to be pro life is fear of eternal damnation.

Don't say idiocies, please.

The fact that you really believe that just because you have maybe experienced less than 1% of what you call "life" you know everything about it makes me understand how presumptuous you are.

Your are annoyed and bored about life just because you approach it thinking you know already everything about it, so you cannot see nothing beyond the artificial filter you are creating by yourself; you are looking at your personal picture of the world that you yourself created so that you know everything about it and you exchange it for the real world, blaming it because you are annoyed and bothered of looking at it only in that way. You have entrapped yourself with your own hands and you neither understand it.

There are two ways to live life: the first is to approach life thinking you know already everything about it and being sure of what's this and what's that to the point that anything is a mystery anymore and you get bored and annoyed of everything, the second is to instead threat everything as a mystery, not  being sure of what's what and approaching everything without filters so that you never know what it's going to happen next and nothing is predictable and monotonous, so that life finally becomes magic and nothing is certain and fixed anymore.

Instead of blaming life, blame yourself and change. As I said to you in PM, stop being a slave and become a master of yourself.

the only reason to live is fear of damnation. if theres a god and heaven your going to for eternity then go. if theres nothing , then go. you wont care when there is no you to care and theres no pain which is 100percent less suck to life. you might enjoy life and if so good on you , but your life will not likely span eternity and the current experiences are just a cravy your lips wont even remember. let those who don't want to savvour it do as they will , it truly doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 18, 2013, 11:54 am
the only reason to be pro life is fear of eternal damnation.

Don't say idiocies, please.

The fact that you really believe that just because you have maybe experienced less than 1% of what you call "life" you know everything about it makes me understand how presumptuous you are.

Your are annoyed and bored about life just because you approach it thinking you know already everything about it, so you cannot see nothing beyond the artificial filter you are creating by yourself; you are looking at your personal picture of the world that you yourself created so that you know everything about it and you exchange it for the real world, blaming it because you are annoyed and bothered of looking at it only in that way. You have entrapped yourself with your own hands and you neither understand it.

There are two ways to live life: the first is to approach life thinking you know already everything about it and being sure of what's this and what's that to the point that anything is a mystery anymore and you get bored and annoyed of everything, the second is to instead threat everything as a mystery, not  being sure of what's what and approaching everything without filters so that you never know what it's going to happen next and nothing is predictable and monotonous, so that life finally becomes magic and nothing is certain and fixed anymore.

Instead of blaming life, blame yourself and change. As I said to you in PM, stop being a slave and become a master of yourself.

You are a very intelligent person and I greatly enjoy reading your posts. +1.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tea_drinker on June 18, 2013, 12:46 pm
There are two ways to live life: the first is to approach life thinking you know already everything about it and being sure of what's this and what's that to the point that anything is a mystery anymore and you get bored and annoyed of everything, the second is to instead threat everything as a mystery, not  being sure of what's what and approaching everything without filters so that you never know what it's going to happen next and nothing is predictable and monotonous, so that life finally becomes magic and nothing is certain and fixed anymore.

Instead of blaming life, blame yourself and change. As I said to you in PM, stop being a slave and become a master of yourself.

Well said.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: banginon1808 on June 18, 2013, 02:04 pm
This is mostly in reply to that latest suicide thread.

Why? I mean, there's heroin, LSD, meth, shrooms, crack, cocaine, opium, DMT, goodass marijuana to smoke at relax, benzos to help, espcially with anxiety and MDMA/psychedelic comedown (I slept 6=8 hours after dosing 160mcg LSD with 40mg Valium) so much fucking shit you can use day in and day out and have a fucking blast..

Does anyone else agree with me? Sure, this world sucks fucking cocks, but at least it gives you a respite in the form of sweetass drugs.

I love drugs.

i hope in years to come this post will become like winston churchhills speech or remembered like the words of muhammad ali or i dont fuckin know im stoned!!
but u get idea yeah?
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 18, 2013, 02:37 pm
This is mostly in reply to that latest suicide thread.

Why? I mean, there's heroin, LSD, meth, shrooms, crack, cocaine, opium, DMT, goodass marijuana to smoke at relax, benzos to help, espcially with anxiety and MDMA/psychedelic comedown (I slept 6=8 hours after dosing 160mcg LSD with 40mg Valium) so much fucking shit you can use day in and day out and have a fucking blast..

Does anyone else agree with me? Sure, this world sucks fucking cocks, but at least it gives you a respite in the form of sweetass drugs.

I love drugs.

i hope in years to come this post will become like winston churchhills speech or remembered like the words of muhammad ali or i dont fuckin know im stoned!!
but u get idea yeah?

Thank you, man. I agree, and not just because I said it. Dying is pointless!!! There are so many good things to chase. If you're on the roof about to jump, what's to lose in dong some illegal drugs? Nothing!

JUST euphoria to gain!
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: zvp1014 on June 18, 2013, 04:00 pm
I tried MDMA and LSD for the first times when I was at the end of it all, the point where it was either kill myself or try anything. I went with try anything first, and it seems to have worked out.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: iLoveTaffy on June 18, 2013, 04:05 pm
Go at you, mate. That's good. See? Suicide is fucking lame. LSD and MDMA are two of the best drugs there are.

Amazing that people die without trying them.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: tedrux on June 18, 2013, 05:38 pm
no one can say what happens after death so no one can say they know its bad. we just know it hurts in most cases, but so does child birth.we also know that without death life would not be living and that we would be overcrowded and burn through natural resources at a rate that would then cause us to die anyways or live in misery.
Title: Re: Why would anyone kill themselves when there are drugs to be had?
Post by: banginon1808 on June 19, 2013, 01:26 am
This is mostly in reply to that latest suicide thread.

Why? I mean, there's heroin, LSD, meth, shrooms, crack, cocaine, opium, DMT, goodass marijuana to smoke at relax, benzos to help, espcially with anxiety and MDMA/psychedelic comedown (I slept 6=8 hours after dosing 160mcg LSD with 40mg Valium) so much fucking shit you can use day in and day out and have a fucking blast..

Does anyone else agree with me? Sure, this world sucks fucking cocks, but at least it gives you a respite in the form of sweetass drugs.

I love drugs.

i hope in years to come this post will become like winston churchhills speech or remembered like the words of muhammad ali or i dont fuckin know im stoned!!
but u get idea yeah?

Thank you, man. I agree, and not just because I said it. Dying is pointless!!! There are so many good things to chase. If you're on the roof about to jump, what's to lose in dong some illegal drugs? Nothing!

JUST euphoria to gain!

fuckin gospel!