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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: nottheunderscore on August 05, 2012, 11:07 am
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I'd like anyone who has tried 2c-t-7 to write their trip reports or thoughts on the chemical. Dosage recommendations, I think we all know not to snort it or try and smoke it.
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Erowid is gonna be your friend on this one. I've tried it once, recently actually, but I can't write an entire trip report now. Dosage, ROA, etc. should all be on Erowid though. But one thing, it's not a chemical to mess around with. Don't take it lightly. If you're prepared and ready for it, you're in for a ride,and although it might not be the smoothest trip, it was very insightful for me.
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I started a thread about this earlier: I had some 2c-t-7 for sale and took it a couple times in the name of science. Anyway, here are some of my observations.
2c-t-7 is a very idiosyncratic compound. Two people can have wildly different reactions to an equal size dose - and the same dose can have wildly different results on the same person in a different set and setting. I also find it to be one of the more introspective 2c-*s. Although it got its start as a party drug, I find 2c-t-7 makes me very introverted: it has none of the social and erotic quality of 2c-b. The trip is great but it sends you looking inward rather than outward.
People have called 2c-b a cross between MDMA and LSD. 2c-t-7 is much more LSD-like than b. It has fantastic open-eye and closed-eye visuals -- some of the best I've ever experienced on any psychedelic. It also improves the sound of music very nicely: I can see where some people might enjoy it at a rave or a festival. I did find it had a noticeably higher body load than 2c-b: where b gives me warm fuzzies t-7 gives me lingering cold chills and faint cramps. These aren't necessarily a deal-breaker but they are something to keep in mind when dosing. t-7 has a pretty steep dosage/response curve, and taking more might increase the icky feeling without improving the good parts. (It may also extend the length: I've found that 2c-t-7 lasts considerably longer than b, sending me on a 6-8 hour trip).
2c-t-7 is notorious for causing some deaths. Like syrian rue and b. caapi, 2c-t-7 inhibits the activity of monoamine oxidase. While this is a good thing when you're doing ayahuasca, it's a Very Bad Thing when mixed with certain classes of drugs. Combined with SSRIs, stimulants and other drugs that act on serotonin -- including MDMA -- MAO inhibitors can cause all kinds of nasty complications. Unfortunately, when t-7 was sold as "Blue Mystic" many people took it with Ecstasy, thinking the combination would be as lovely as an MDMA/2c-b honeyflip. Others tried snorting it with tragic results. So long as you avoid insufflation and combining it with MDMA, M1, amphetamine or cathiones like mephedrone, flephedrone, etceteradrone, &c. you should be fine.
While I had some good experiences with vaporizing, I suspect that vaping can cause the same kind of rapid MAO inhibition as snorting and would advise sticking to oral or rectal usage for this one. Start with 10mg or so and see what happens. If you don't get satisfactory results at 25-30mg I'd say you might want to think before going higher: you may get more unpleasantness rather than a better trip.
Overall I'd say this one is best for intermediate to advanced psychonauts, but it is definitely a worthwhile substance and certainly deserving of its place in Shulgin's "magical half-dozen."
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Could you post the link to that thread? I remember reading it and that's what convinced me to try it out, there was some pretty good info in there if I remember correctly.
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Could you post the link to that thread? I remember reading it and that's what convinced me to try it out, there was some pretty good info in there if I remember correctly.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=32274
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Could you post the link to that thread? I remember reading it and that's what convinced me to try it out, there was some pretty good info in there if I remember correctly.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=32274
Thanks mate, wish more people had trip reports to give. But there's always Erowid!
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i remember it being a really messy trip
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Thank you guys for giving some advice on the matter. :P
I have read at least 15 trip reports and a lot of the literature about it on Erowid, however one of the problems with RC's is finding the right dosage.
I have generally gone off Erowid's recommendations in the past but I recently bought some 2c-i off of an SR vendor with a near perfect rating and I had to dose quite a bit more than the strong dose rec. to get a strong trip.
I usually would take between 40-50mg of 2ci, but this time had to take 75mg. Perhaps it was cut just a smidgeon? Has anyone here tried Nevita's 2c-t-7? If so, would they recommend 25-30mg for a strong trip, or more?
I'm 180lbs. experienced psychonaut.
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2ct7 is absolutely amazing. i love it. i have done 18mg and 22mg and the difference was huge. 18mg was manageable but 22mg was bliss. i saw visions not visuals. pyramids with the eye, snakes in a pitch black room, and i love the body high. feels like there is a force moving all over you and it feels good. great trails and fun colors as well. lasted quite a while which was a plus for me.
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So, I took 37 mg of 2ct7 and that was a bit too much. I spent most of the night puking, and it was not the most fun trip. I'm 180lbs, and an experienced tripper, but if I were to try it again, I would take no more than 30mg. 27mg was perfect for the girl I was with. She's about 125lbs or so, but an experienced tripper. She only puked once, but was having an amazing time the whole time. ;D