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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: kendricks on May 01, 2012, 06:08 am

Title: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: kendricks on May 01, 2012, 06:08 am
I’ve been lurking in the forums a bit, soaking up all the intel on scammage in all its forms here on SR. I may have the opportunity soon to open up a sales account, depending on a local distro thing happening. All the anti-scam advice I’ve read so far is directed at the new buyer/user, with the usual warnings about staying in escrow and all that. In many other threads, such as the one discussing the new commission schedule, vendors still reference buyer scams as a concern.

I get the whole fast-talking, finalizing early, seller scam scenarios. How does the typical buyer scam work? I mean, an account intent on fraud must still put up the BTC into escrow to order something. I suppose what comes next is the buyer waiting long enough for the resolve action to be available. But then, I’ve noticed almost all the shipments I’ve received had DCNs. Does SR lean heavily toward the buyer accounts in disputes? I’m trying to do a quick and dirty risk assessment before opening up a store, and I still see most of the risks being assumed by the buyer, including tracking by LE.

Thanks for any knowledge you can share.
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: BlarghRawr on May 01, 2012, 06:11 am
As I understand it, the general assumption is that is a package has a DCN and the DCN lists the package as delivered, there is no refund. So, really, just use DCNs and you'll avoid most scams. And for the rare few times you don't use a DCN, hope you get an honest buyer.
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: Krazys on May 01, 2012, 09:13 am
Dear sir, I am a Nigerien Prince...
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: hatedpatriot on May 01, 2012, 09:16 am
Dear sir, I am a Nigerien Prince...
Almost woke up the ol' lady laughing at this
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: BlarghRawr on May 01, 2012, 09:45 am
Just be careful and don't play the bullshit-card immediately, really. Even in the black market, there are some honest people... I hope.
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: cindylove on May 01, 2012, 11:39 am
Usually they will threaten to ruin your feedback and basically spread FUD in the forums. Ignore and blacklist such swine.
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: kendricks on May 01, 2012, 10:29 pm
Thanks for everyone's input! And wow, that's it? With the seemingly constant referencing of buyer scams in some threads, I still don't have a good idea of what the usual buyer scam looks like. I guess escrow works to protect both the buyer and seller huh....
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: hatedpatriot on May 01, 2012, 10:42 pm
You can never be 100% protected when buying illegal substances. At least here you only stand to lose money. On the street it can be must worse. I plan on vending soon and anyone with less than 5 transactions or shitty stats will have to FE and thats if I decide to even do business with them. It's not anybody's right to be able to buy someones product. IRL you have to have a reputation to do business with people, same here imo. I know I will catch a lot of flack from that when I do it, but oh well. I will provide top notch shit at a reasonable price for the love of it and to share my good fortune in having access to certain things. I do not strive to pay my rent or be number one anything. When I start vending, I'll be pretty selective and thats just how it has to be. There are plenty of vendors selling all manner of everything to anyone with no regards to stats. They can build up a rep with them.
Title: Re: What does the usual buyer scam look like?
Post by: BlarghRawr on May 01, 2012, 10:46 pm
If there is no way to prove the package was sent or received and the transaction is in escrow, an illegitimate buyer may contact you or go through the resolution center. Generally, it seems like the method is to threaten a vendor with back feedback or about how they are going to "take it to the forums", which can be pretty scary to a new vendor. What you should worry about even more, however, is the social engineer that can convince you to reship two or even three times, and ends up with a ton extra all for only the original cost.