Silk Road forums

Discussion => Security => Topic started by: P2P on August 05, 2013, 12:27 am

Title: E-mail
Post by: P2P on August 05, 2013, 12:27 am
With the most recent news, where does one go now for tor-friendly e-mail services?
Title: Re: E-mail
Post by: eurobilly on August 05, 2013, 01:15 am
Also could use some direction here. Obviously, hushmail is a no, tormail is now apparently gone. Any web-based email services that require Tor to operate? Would a gmail account coupled with GPG operated only when running Tor provide an equitable amount of anonymity?

Do any of us truly even know anymore (in light of recent NSA whistleblower discoveries)? Feeling more "Tin Hat"-ish by the day.

- eb   
Title: Re: E-mail
Post by: comsec on August 05, 2013, 01:16 am
Bitmessages or I2p-Bote mail. Or Privatdemail.net (no .onion server though, also Egypt server.. can't email Israel or receive emails from Israel)

If you want to be ballin' anon then use a nym server with a newsgroup in the reply block http://security.resist.ca/create-nym.shtml for decentralized anonymous retrieval. Rent a cheap VPS with bitcoins to download alt.anonymous.messages and ssh into it over Tor using passwordless keys for retrieval. Can even run your own tor hidden service to retrieve messages.

If you read the excellent book "SSH Mastery" by Michael Lucas you can automate this
Title: Re: E-mail
Post by: eurobilly on August 05, 2013, 02:00 am
Bitmessages or I2p-Bote mail. Or Privatdemail.net (no .onion server though, also Egypt server.. can't email Israel or receive emails from Israel)

If you want to be ballin' anon then use a nym server with a newsgroup in the reply block http://security.resist.ca/create-nym.shtml for decentralized anonymous retrieval. Rent a cheap VPS with bitcoins to download alt.anonymous.messages and ssh into it over Tor using passwordless keys for retrieval. Can even run your own tor hidden service to retrieve messages.

If you read the excellent book "SSH Mastery" by Michael Lucas you can automate this

I'm pretty sure I didn't catch any of that...except the "ballin anon" part. You see, all I really want is to set up a localbitcoins account, which requires a damn email address. Hell, I was lucky enough to get GPG and Tails up and running over a year ago.

In the words of the terribly sexy and anonymous "Pine", I am paralyzed with fear...and just need some freakin BTC and nugs.
Title: Re: E-mail
Post by: comsec on August 05, 2013, 02:24 am
I thought you wanted snitch proof email service for dealing. For localbitcoins https://www.vmail.me/en/ will work fine. They are in Netherlands, subject to EU data retention laws but at least aren't as easily accessible as Gmail or Yahoo by NSA metadata snoopwarez and FBI.

Also this: http://www.fepg.net/foreign.html which is a list of all free foreign providers

Don't use any of these free services for drug dealing, and don't use Countermail either. All of them will close accounts if one of your insane competitors or crackhead customers complains you are using it for illegal activity.
Title: Re: E-mail
Post by: eurobilly on August 05, 2013, 02:35 am
I thought you wanted snitch proof email service for dealing. For localbitcoins https://www.vmail.me/en/ will work fine. They are in Netherlands, subject to EU data retention laws but at least aren't as easily accessible as Gmail or Yahoo by NSA metadata snoopwarez and FBI.

Also this: http://www.fepg.net/foreign.html which is a list of all free foreign providers

Don't use any of these free services for drug dealing, and don't use Countermail either. All of them will close accounts if one of your insane competitors or crackhead customers complains you are using it for illegal activity.

+1
Thanks. Yeah, this is really just a burner email for account setup, but I certainly didn't want to just go open a damn Yahoo addy for this purpose. I'm officially sketched out...at least until Snowden makes his way down to Assange's pleasure palace in South America and the real party can begin. How long before Harrison Ford and Matt Damon are making a movie about these 2 patriots? Yeah, I said it...fuckin' heroes in my book.

- eb
Title: Re: E-mail
Post by: comsec on August 05, 2013, 03:43 am
I thought you wanted snitch proof email service for dealing. For localbitcoins https://www.vmail.me/en/ will work fine. They are in Netherlands, subject to EU data retention laws but at least aren't as easily accessible as Gmail or Yahoo by NSA metadata snoopwarez and FBI.

Also this: http://www.fepg.net/foreign.html which is a list of all free foreign providers

Don't use any of these free services for drug dealing, and don't use Countermail either. All of them will close accounts if one of your insane competitors or crackhead customers complains you are using it for illegal activity.

+1
Thanks. Yeah, this is really just a burner email for account setup, but I certainly didn't want to just go open a damn Yahoo addy for this purpose. I'm officially sketched out...at least until Snowden makes his way down to Assange's pleasure palace in South America and the real party can begin. How long before Harrison Ford and Matt Damon are making a movie about these 2 patriots? Yeah, I said it...fuckin' heroes in my book.

- eb

Fun fact: Search Wilder's Security Forum for the username "Snowden". Lol it's him.