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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Alighier on July 22, 2013, 11:20 pm
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Hey-ah!
I'm Ali and I'm addicted to the needle. Drug of choice with the prick is Methylone... Go figure lol.
Recently I fucked my arm up pretty badly, leading to cellulitis. I am fat, but not waddle fat, just enough to make my veins a little shy. If this were bluelight or some other harm reduction forum, I'd say save the "don't shoot up" advice, but you guys know better than that ;)
Thing is-
Fresh Needles (check)
Clean water (check)
Alcohol swabs (check)
Belt for tying off (check, probably should get a tourniquet, though)
Filters (checkerooni)
Now I need some advice on finding them. The one on my wrist that is supposed to be an easy hit is reclusive. Never gotten it once. I tried hot water and lifting, but maybe it's just technique that screws me up (the guy who taught me had a little bit of a problem finding a vein to hit, but always found one without any misses)
Thanks, guys. I'm pretty sure the technique is the biggest blockade, so I just need some pro-help at this point.
~Ali
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bump for great justice! There's no harm reduction programs in my state. Last time I went to the hospital they tell me "Well you've got to stop or you're going to kill yourself doing it wrong. What? You want us to tell you how to do it right? Silly junkie."
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Dam >:( no HR programmes in your state. Am I correct you injecting Methylone I am assuming you have tried the rectal route ;-) Alot of people have said that oral is just as good as IV obviously you need to make sure its clean and not cut with anything else and make sure your aware of your own tolerance
Need a bit more info mate
1. Are you using fixed or detachable head needle and syringe
2. What Gauge are you using
3. avoid the wrists
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Dam >:( no HR programmes in your state. Am I correct you injecting Methylone I am assuming you have tried the rectal route ;-) Alot of people have said that oral is just as good as IV obviously you need to make sure its clean and not cut with anything else and make sure your aware of your own tolerance
Need a bit more info mate
1. Are you using fixed or detachable head needle and syringe
2. What Gauge are you using
3. avoid the wrists
Hey, I was looking for HR help and I get the honest to goodness HarmReduction themself!
Yeah, it's a rather backwards place around here...
1. I've tried both. The most recent which caused the infection was 25g, 1in, detachable 3cc. It was the largest I had ever used.
2. 29-31G with 1/2in or less is my usual. I thought a larger gauge might work better in some places. My next batch of rigs is going to be 31G, 1/2in 1cc to get back to smaller holes.
3. I learned that the hard way. When I went into the hospital recently, they had no choice but to use my wrist as every other route was too fuckered or infected to touch. Very painful, and I was shocked they even got it with a 22G needle O.o
Thanks HR! ^.^
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Dam >:( no HR programmes in your state. Am I correct you injecting Methylone I am assuming you have tried the rectal route ;-) Alot of people have said that oral is just as good as IV obviously you need to make sure its clean and not cut with anything else and make sure your aware of your own tolerance
Need a bit more info mate
1. Are you using fixed or detachable head needle and syringe
2. What Gauge are you using
3. avoid the wrists
Also, I have tried rectal and oral is nice for casual use. If MDA were cheaper, and the brown crystal variety were more accessible, that would be a simple solution to my problem. It's a longer lasting bang, the rush is tied with Methylone for my favorite of all time haha. White powder MDA doesn't seem to match it, though. Best part either way is, it doesn't have NEARLY as strong a desire to redose if I hit the sweet spot. Methylone, I'll keep banging until I get cathinone psychosis. Not cool.
Again, I appreciate the input and help!
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25g, 1in is a hell of a size esp for arm IV mate no wonder you got an infection . I would try and keep with detachable as if you do miss at least all you have to do is change the needle. Larger gauge needles are designed for other places on the body and not for arms look at as you say a 29G needle but if I am correct I think this is a fixed head rather than detachable.
Have a look at http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shoplist_needles_and_syringes.php they do ship and are excellent to deal with
Keep in touch if you need any more info
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Thanks! Do you know if they have any international restrictions for shipping? The road is dry of anything smaller than 25 and detachable, so I thought I wouldn't really get that opportunity.
Also, any tips for finding a vein with a smaller gauge?
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Bump again. Seriously, all these druggarts and nobody can offer some solid advice?
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you want a 29-31 gauge long needle. i find 31 gauge to leave less track marks. try swinging your arms in a circle and pumping your fists to get ur veins out. do some pull/push ups. def need to be in a warm place. cold makes it impossible and youll miss everytime. i like to use my shirt sleeve as a make shift tie to kinda wrap around my arm. always point needle to your heart, never away. remember to rotate spots and try to start at the far end of the vein and work ur way closer to ur heart so ur not irritating ur past injection sites. when i first started iving i needed a friend to do it for me forever.. once u get the hang of it its easy. i had to do it myself once in the hospital cause a nurse couldnt find a vein on me.. the spot inside ur elbo is usually the easiest. otherwise wrists are super easy.. i first used veins about 3 inches up from my elbow. avoid feet if u can.
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you want a 29-31 gauge long needle. i find 31 gauge to leave less track marks. try swinging your arms in a circle and pumping your fists to get ur veins out. do some pull/push ups. def need to be in a warm place. cold makes it impossible and youll miss everytime. i like to use my shirt sleeve as a make shift tie to kinda wrap around my arm. always point needle to your heart, never away. remember to rotate spots and try to start at the far end of the vein and work ur way closer to ur heart so ur not irritating ur past injection sites. when i first started iving i needed a friend to do it for me forever.. once u get the hang of it its easy. i had to do it myself once in the hospital cause a nurse couldnt find a vein on me.. the spot inside ur elbo is usually the easiest. otherwise wrists are super easy.. i first used veins about 3 inches up from my elbow. avoid feet if u can.
Finally! Thank you, I'd heard most of that before, but it was always broken up and told to me by hypocrites ("Rotate sites and use a clean needle every time." "Isn't that the fifth time you've used that needle in that spot?" "Haven't fucked up yet.")
You can see why it's been weird for me. Like I said, I'm overweight. Usually, that's pretty cool for me.
Also, it's kind of hard to explain to my partner why I IV. Every time I bring it up she gets so angry and tells me I'm ruining my life. I take pride in the beauty of destruction. I don't know if injecting actually has something to do with that outlook, but most people seem to think IV is the epitome of drug-people-desolation.
It's become more than a ritual, it's like a rite or a prayer. And when I get too frightened of getting caught by my partner, the prayer is tainted. I usually mess up when that kind of stress mounts.
I don't want to drag her in with me, she'll occasionally IM with me, but nothing more. I mostly just want her to understand.
Any ideas on that? Lol.
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im addicted to the ritual just as much as i am the dope.. although i dont use every day anymore its probably only a matter of time as thats been the pattern the last 7 years lol. i used to shoot up in the bathroom with the shower running to mask what i was doing. run the watter hot, itll help u find a vein easier. then jump in the shower after and come out. only problem with that is if u have a big kit full of paraphernalia u gotta carry in
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Hi guys!
I will say try the anal route first with the methylone, but after that I have no more suggestions to you, just be safe.
that's a very interesting topic, are we (we as humanity) hook with the ritual, or is just the dope. I will say, as always, there is not a clear limit. In my personal opinion I loved to smoke and snore my cocaine, but never tried other routes that I know are faster. And they are faster, much faster. I love k, but never got into a k hole for sure because I never shoot it. So, is the ritual (I hate needles) or is the faster rush. the pins and the needles in heroin I guess.
hope this does not hurt
usalchemy
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Thanks! Do you know if they have any international restrictions for shipping? The road is dry of anything smaller than 25 and detachable, so I thought I wouldn't really get that opportunity.
Also, any tips for finding a vein with a smaller gauge?
No l am pretty sure thay do not have any restrictions l am almost certain that their products are already in the US l am assuming that is where you are
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Thanks! Do you know if they have any international restrictions for shipping? The road is dry of anything smaller than 25 and detachable, so I thought I wouldn't really get that opportunity.
Also, any tips for finding a vein with a smaller gauge?
No l am pretty sure thay do not have any restrictions l am almost certain that their products are already in the US l am assuming that is where you are
Yes indeedy. They do have one restriction, I found out- they don't guarantee a reship. Which is fine, especially for the price.