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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: DrDeepWood on October 17, 2012, 06:39 am
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I was wondering what you guys would think of an LSD synthesis video tutorial, something that took you from growing fungi to extract ergotamine all the way to making needlepoint LSD and laying it on sheets. A chemist would dress in full protective gear to hide his identity and his voice would be masked. There would be a bench table with all the chemicals and equipment and everything would be explained. Video overlay and also chemistry theory, etc. This would be a professional. All the materials and chemicals to do this yourself would be easy, you wouldnt need a lab, just a large sink area.
The thing is this would be worth more than you could put a price on. There isnt even a picture of LSD crystal on the internet, much less a video of a super optimized new century LSD synthesis with hours or tips and tricks.
Could we set up some sort of kickstarter? Everyone would put their bitcoins in escrow and would get the video in a few months when it was done. Do you think the silk-road could raise 80K to make this happen?
Just throwing around ideas, also thinking I could make this public once funds were raised to just totally fuck the DEA and drop acid to 60s prices.
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This reaks of scam.
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I'm very interested
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Just replying to keep updated with this. Sounds like a great idea. The more people that know how to synthesize LSD, the better :)
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It would be a total idiots guide to ochem + LSD. not to mention an awesome lecture on LSD theory, etc.
before we get anymore dont-know-their-ass-from-their-mouth scam yellers, I will repeat that this would be IN ESCROW. I wont get paid unless I deliver.
Also what about something like 900$ a person with maybe 100 people needed to get it going. Once the video is done there will be an auction for all the participants for the final product from the video. If he makes 10-20g on the video 3 people at random will be chosen and will each receive 1-3g of pure LSD.
If this happened, it would be in a year or so but I need to judge interest to sell one of the capable people I know on it.
This is just an IDEA, not taking orders yet, dont know if it will happen yet but let me know what you think.
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This is a great idea! LSD has been so scarce, with the bust in 2000 and bands like phish and the greatfull dead no longer touring spreading acid and meeting people just is not the same.
If you made a video on something a little simpler like mda or dmt from tryp first it would give the LSD video a lot more credibility and I know I would be willing to pitch 2k on this even though I would probably end up not making it for ages if at all.
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If this is real, I would surely definitely be very interested (can you sense how much? :P).
Anyway, posting just to be updated on the thread. ;)
One "suggestion" though, for me it would require to have all the information as detailed as possible on how/where to acquire all the required "tools" and "chemicals".
BUT not limited to the US! Meaning if possible, take Europe into account.
I'm saying this just because often in a "recipe" someone mention "just go to your hardware store to get Brand X...", but in my "poor Central European country" I have no idea where to get that, least of all "Brand X" :/
Thanks and I hope you'll gather enough interest to make it happen!
Take care
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Hey Dr.,
when I read your post I was instantly like "ooooohhhh yes, let's do that".
Raising funds for it is absolutely doable I think, look at this:
Lay the acid and send it out to your supporters, quantity depending on funds given. Your costs subtracted + whatever you think is a fair profit for you of course. Make the lowest share 200-500 bucks, that should keep your shipping effort to a minimum. I don't think that 100 people will enter a 900 bucks lottery.
this thread for sure will be an interesting read for the next weeks :)
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Every single person I talked to has always said cultivating ergot is tedious, expensive, dangerous and has the potential to be completely worthless in the end (growth, isolation, culture, growth)
Sourcing ergo tartrate and diethylamine
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I was wondering what you guys would think of an LSD synthesis video tutorial,
Wait, this could be interesting..
something that took you from growing fungi to extract ergotamine ...
Aah, ergot poisoning for the masses. This IS interesting..
All the materials and chemicals to do this yourself would be easy, you wouldnt need a lab, just a large sink area.
It would be a total idiots guide to ochem + LSD. not to mention an awesome lecture on LSD theory, etc.
Sorry, but this is just fucking stupid. Not only can you not teach non-chemistry majors to make LSD, you'll probably end up landing people in jail or getting them killed.
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You're right, a degree in chemistry is the only way to gain chemistry knowledge. >.>
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You're right, a degree in chemistry is the only way to gain chemistry knowledge. >.>
Sarcasm noted. And I am all for self-learning.
However, you do understand that synthesizing a complicated molecule requires more than a video tutorial and a few lectures in organic chemistry, right? In the same vein, how many people on this board will actually apply themselves to undertake a project of this magnitude , assuming the OP is in fact not delusional and delivers on his promise?
As far as I am concerned, the 'I want to make LSD and distribute/dose everyone on the planet' is a rite-of-passage for early LSD users. Luckily LSD is a self-regulating drug, and the grandiose delusions don't last long ;)
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^agreed. Except for the rite-of-passage bit
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I would most definitely be interested in this; If this is all done in escrow, you can count me in. 1/100 , 99 more to go.
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+1 on the interest check. Need more details!
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To all the bitchers:
Not all strains of ergot cause gangrene, and thats only if you eat them like a fucking loon
You could wash your hands all day in pure ergot broth and be fine
Not to mention that the strain I suggest has very little to no ergo-peptides which are responsible for vasoconstriction ie gangrene
To all those without imagination:
LSD is an EASY fucking synthesis! The hard part is knowing what to pay attention to and where to get the chemicals. Im sorry if you cant learn a one-step reaction with cleanup steps, but dont bitch that you need an ochem degree to use a flask and seperatory funnel. You dont need to be a chef to make a rockstar meal. plus humans evolved mimicking others, thats how we learn.
To all those with real concerns:
This video would bring a lot of heat but so does SR. All the chems on the video would be mostly easy enough to get even if the DEA tried to watch them. my main concern is that someone will get this video and try to make lsd without the proper precautions and end up in jail for a long time.
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I say make a video of the LSD synthesis and sell them at an extremely high price. This would prevent those who are not serious from "attempting this at home". We all know the War On Drugs is a corrupt war and should never have existed. We can also be certain it will NEVER go away. If we try to FUCK the DEA, then they will simply take away more rights and freedoms in order to get on top of us. They LIKE to throw people in jail for harmless drug use and they will continue to do so. I don't want any more potential "precursers" to be banned or regulated. We are not free and have not been for a long time. My argument is to YES, make this video. My argument is also to NO, do not make it easily available to the masses. If people want this information, then they can pay for it. If you aren't making enough money from what you are offering right now....I'm SHOCKED. I think what you offer is undervalued by A LOT...it's invaluable! If you want to make more, then charge more as those that are serious will surely pay for it. Stay safe and stay under the radar as we don't want guys like you being taken away from us here....
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This would literally change the world if he is legit This video will happen
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I think a better idea would be to work to make this a very high production value video. Not only have the entire synthesis but high quality cameras, multiple angles, etc. It would go from making your first petri dish of fungi all the way to needlepoint and laying sheets. Most likely 4-6 hour video. There will be a whiteboard where equations, molecules, theory will be drawn. Practical advice and comparison to other methods would stated. Not only an LSD for dummies but also something that would be worth it for a Phd chemist. Instead of a pool or anything I may offer it as a very exclusive video. Anyone that purchases will also get the fungi shipped to startup. This would make the video in the realm of 4-7000$ I think this is the best way to go because it will be limited to those who are serious and have the resources, therefore least likely to get caught.
Let me know what you guys think about the price and any other suggestions as to what will value-add this video.
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This would be fucking epic. I would buy it, retire and spend the rest of my life studying chemistry and re-enacting the video in my spare time... over and over again!
However, I can see it going two ways, or maybe one then the other:
1. It changes the LSD market forever, making it a cheap and available drug for the masses.
2. It will encourage an even stricter enforcement of the international regulation of precursor chemicals, resulting in no LSD for anyone, ever again.
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I do think it would change the game and inspire a new generation.
This is all mental masturbation at the moment, I will merely be the director and editor.
I need to get in touch with active chemists and see how they feel about it.
Diethylamine is so commonly used and also so easy to make that they will never be able to control it.
The video will feature a start from scratch ergotamine factory so all chemists will be self-sustaining.
Therefore the riskiest part is eliminated.
All other reagents and compounds will be too common to control.
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im thinking the last shot of the video is a clear jar with 20g needlepoint, being shaken and glowing with blue piezoluminescence to the intro music of riders on the storm.
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I would be VERY VERY interested.
This can be a community fund. Everyone contirbute as much as they can/want to till we reach the required 80K.
this money stays in escrow till people who have contributed download their copy. Then the payment can be released by the admin/person in charge of the account.
I would willingly contribute upto 200 $ for this, as i have access to the chemicals required for synthesis here, but need guidance, and a video step by step tutorial, with all the relevant information for every step of the reactions (temperature, duration, quantities, )and some basic explanation of the terms used (mol, etc.. ) would be awesome.
Subtuitles would also be a great addition in case the voice is hard to understand ( some people have a problem understaing unless they can read the mouth.
will also be useful for the hearing impaired.
I hope more people show interest. I have not been able to find a reliable recipe anywhere online. Tihkal/Pihkal are very complicated for someone not very well-versed with organic chemistry and uncle fester's book is shit.
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Great idea.. with a couple problems;
first of all, I won't be downloading a 4-6 hour video through TOR,
second of all, I would be skeptical of downloading this video anywhere on the clearnet
I would actually feel safer having a physical copy on a DVD or something, being shipped to me.
We all love DrDeepWood and appreciate what he is doing, but let's not overlook security people! No excuses.
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^^good point, tor disconnects a lot, having it on a dvd or usb would be a very good idea.
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DVD is an excellent idea.
It is also much more of a pain in the ass to rip a 6 hour DVD and then upload it on torrents.
Besides someone who has paid in the region of 4000$ for it will have no incentive sharing it for free with the world.
4-7k $ sounds like a reasonable price for anyone who is serious about this shit.
However, you must understand that aside from the cost of the (proposed) DVD, the to be "chemists" will also need funds to procure the chemicals.
For me personally, getting that much money converted into BTC IS going to be a problem. Besides i will need to save for about 6 - 8 months before i can have that much.
Maybe now is a good time to start? hehehe!!
A question specifically for DrDeepWood :
What are your views on the possibility of setting up clandestine LSD production in INDIA?
From what i have researched here so far, it seems like very easy thing to do.
I can sort out a remote location and electricity. sourcing the chemicals should not be very difficult, but i just don't know how to go about it.
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I think $4000-$7000 is extremely reasonable for what you are thinking about offering in the DVD. I think offering it at a high price would accomplish your goals and eliminate your fears at the same time. The goal should not be to price LSD into the toilet, but to make it the highest quality and more available. This would be done by getting the DVD into the right hands and keeping it out of the hands of the irresponsible and reckless. After someone pays $7000 for this DVD, they won't be wanting to share it with everyone. It would be an investment for sure. You would definitely see the availability of LSD rise and hopefully stay up as these would be the responsible ones that are involved in this rise....
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You may as well get the ball rolling now, it's too much of a good idea to let not happen. You should list all the expenses that makes this video cost $80k to produce, it will get more people on board.
My only concern is that in this video you will be making about 20G of LSD in one "cook", that's an insane amount of money if sold, more than you will make off of this video i would imagine, So why give out your recipe to the masses when you could be the Heisenberg of LSD?
No offense but i don't really know what you're all about yet, I have a good idea though.
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As someone with very limited chemistry knowledge this doesn't seem that possible, but I really really want to hope it is.
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Wish I was I believe Dr is going to be filming some one else in the lab, so they wont actually get the lsd produced.
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Wish I was I believe Dr is going to be filming some one else in the lab, so they wont actually get the lsd produced.
I assumed he was SWIMing
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You may as well get the ball rolling now, it's too much of a good idea to let not happen. You should list all the expenses that makes this video cost $80k to produce, it will get more people on board.
My only concern is that in this video you will be making about 20G of LSD in one "cook", that's an insane amount of money if sold, more than you will make off of this video i would imagine, So why give out your recipe to the masses when you could be the Heisenberg of LSD?
No offense but i don't really know what you're all about yet, I have a good idea though.
DrDeepWood is out of the chemistry game after an accident he had, if i remember correctly, and he didn't necessarily like the lifestyle of a chemist, that's why he's here offering consulting and advice, so people don't make the mistakes that he did. He wants to spread the information and inspire young minds into chemistry, which is awesome! 80k might take awhile to raise.. that's a lot of money to be sitting in escrow! it's a lot to consider.. but I hope this all goes well. I'll be watching this for sure!
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Very interested doc.
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Price Point is hard to determine, but considering the DVD could come with all the chemical sources ; etc. I think it would be worth it.
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Double and Triple interested now.
I have decided to start saving money for this DVD.
Doc : I hope this mental masturbation of yours translates into a nice night of actual SEX !!!
What i mean is - please make it happen.
After reading more, i think 5000$ is a reasonable price for such a DVD.
If 20 people buy it, that should cover the costs of making the video.
Multiple camera angles might be an overkill, but good quality, well lit shots are a must.
And definitely subtitles ( in multiple languages? ;) ).
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how much would lab material + chemicals cost ?
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Never, ever, underestimate the cost of a chemist.
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This sounds amazing yet sketchy all at the same time.
I know i'll never get this opportunity again, though.
Fuck it, I'll do it for $900 as long as it stays in escrow.
If this takes off, shoot me a message to remind me.
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hmm
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I love threads like this
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Doctor, exactly what strain of ergot are you suggesting? And from where will it be acquired?
I always believed getting the precise strain of claviceps was extremely arduous
AFAIK (which aint much) the claviceps to produce LSD are extraordinarily dangerous and specific in both isolation and production. I am seeking enlightenment because I have never heard otherwise with exception to Uncle Fester who appears more versed in speed than psychedelics.
I believe a lot in imagination and have been teaching myself to parrot the TIHKAL paragraphs word for word (with formulas and temps) from memory.
Who is interested in a community LSD learning experiment?
I am convinced it's "not that hard" to manufacture LSD. The problem is fear and lack of conviction. Also the dereliction of information exchange is ever present. There are obviously a TON of holes to be filled but that is what is so incredible about this community and TOR. It's balls to the wall. It's what makes TOR so incredible. Someone has to run the servers out there and naturally no one wants to share "the bad stuff" in the clear. Here it can be different. Everyone's question gets answered. Experimentation can occur. Everyone is no one. LSD is powerful and only certain types of people can and should be able to control that power.
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
Required chemicals:
KOH
Potassium Hydroxide
H20
Water
Ergotamine tartrate
H2SO4
Sulfuric Acid
Et2O
diethyl ether
NH3
Ammonia
aqueous ammonia
NH4OH
Ammonium Hydroxide
Anhydrous ethanol
C4H11N
diethylamine
CHCl3
Chloroform
MgSO4
Magnesium sulfate
C6H6
Benzene
MeOH
Methanol
Of these chemicals I believe it would only be hard to acquire...
diethylamine and of course the ergot! Both are heavily watched though I imagine there could be a patent for manufacturing diethylamine from easily acquired chems (wishful thinking, nothing to back this up ATM) or maybe there ARE sources that aren't watched (unlikely?).
We know the following for the First paragraph of the TIHKAL entry:
-Need fully inert atmosphere (big expensive vac setup)
-Need magnetic stirrer
-Need ice bath
-Need very accurate heat plate
-Need buchner and/or vaccuum filter setup + filter paper
Must be able to decant, filter, dropwise addition of liquid, strip solvent under vaccuum, dry under vacuum
We know the following for the Second paragraph of the TIHKAL entry:
-Need a distillation setup for reflux
-Need separatory funnel
-Need to be able to purify compounds through column chromatography setup
A lot of the information in the synthesis that is provided by Shulgin makes the synthesis of LSD look "not too difficult" permitted you cut your teeth in the chemistry skills needed for the synthesis (distillation, column chromatography, basic chemistry lab skills, working in a vacuum).
I don't think this requires a DVD, I think this requires a community efforts in documentation, education, and experimentation. The Hivemind. LSD for the masses.
First thing's first WHO'S GOT THE ERGOT?!
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The devil on your right shoulder says "do it"....
There's no angel in sight...
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sometimes i think people just think of things and post them on the forums...
that being said, it'd be a good idea and a bad idea. good for being that there would be a video showing one persons way of synthesizing lsd. could be educational, bad as in anyone that gets their hands on it is going to try to do it and fail. possibly hurting themselves or others. someone that is capable of synthesizing lsd would not need this video.
it would be great for novelty sake though :)
and as far as no pictures of crystal online:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=f0d06e07907dae61986acda5eab3bfe8.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=829a967f59925495eb89e77f7935359a.png
and there are a few others out there as well ;)
edit: and i hope no one is crazy enough to cultivate ergot in the amount that would be needed to synthesize anything worthwhile. this is extremely hazardous to your health. you could always go picking through rye berries at a local brew shop but grow your own? no... just.... NO
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@aciddeath The particular strain our good doctor references is of European origin and is supposedly a commercial strain sample, the source is trusted, but I would be last to try and purchase from them. Research is key.
This is worthwhile, but where do you draw the line between educational and profitable.
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Alright, I'd be game for something like this if the price isn't too crazy and I'm not just fronting you money.
My last Job I worked around phosgene and aniline so I understand more then enough how to handle raw crystal safely.
The problem is cultivating ergot, could you explain a little more, exactly how this is supposedly safe?
All I've heard is how dangerous it is and every strain is dangerous. Is this just myths?
As far as my drug synth'n experience goes I've made meth, that's it nothing hard about that, though.
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I'm in.
Notify us the escrow is happening, I'll pour my every penny into it.
Make that video, I will -get- the however much is charged. So long as it comes with the fungus.
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Im definitely in support of this
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there is nothing a video will show you that will make it magic to you to make. all information on this guys whole operation is available in the open for no money. why spend $80000 to have a video that shows him make $80000 worth of acid that he then will sell for $80000. read some books and figure this out. if you need the video to learn to make acid then you should not be doing it an no person is going to buy from you if you are amature. stick with buying from the labs been making this for a long times now.
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there is nothing a video will show you that will make it magic to you to make. all information on this guys whole operation is available in the open for no money. why spend $80000 to have a video that shows him make $80000 worth of acid that he then will sell for $80000. read some books and figure this out. if you need the video to learn to make acid then you should not be doing it an no person is going to buy from you if you are amature. stick with buying from the labs been making this for a long times now.
DrDeepWood happens to hold the only market on here for chemistry knowledge and consulting. Were you aware that people are already buying his consulting services and lab notes from SR? If you believe you are more experienced, then I'm sure you could make some money from your knowledge and sell it on the Road, you would be his only competition.. ;)
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@aciddeath The particular strain our good doctor references is of European origin and is supposedly a commercial strain sample, the source is trusted, but I would be last to try and purchase from them. Research is key.
This is worthwhile, but where do you draw the line between educational and profitable.
It's not that I do not believe you, I am very skeptical though.
You know how much paperwork is going to be involved in purchasing a strain of fungus that has the potential to destroy millions of acres of crops?
Maybe I'm being too pessimistic here but I'm really grasping at straws for hoping this magical route is viable
Someone was selling ergo tartrate on here not too long ago. They weren't an established seller but I'm almost positive that we are less than six degrees separated for a pharmacist in another country who is willing to shell out a few ounces of it for our deep pockets
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there is nothing a video will show you that will make it magic to you to make. all information on this guys whole operation is available in the open for no money. why spend $80000 to have a video that shows him make $80000 worth of acid that he then will sell for $80000. read some books and figure this out. if you need the video to learn to make acid then you should not be doing it an no person is going to buy from you if you are amature. stick with buying from the labs been making this for a long times now.
DrDeepWood happens to hold the only market on here for chemistry knowledge and consulting. Were you aware that people are already buying his consulting services and lab notes from SR? If you believe you are more experienced, then I'm sure you could make some money from your knowledge and sell it on the Road, you would be his only competition.. ;)
i am not competeing to teach people to make acid. i am saying that if they think they can make it at home safely to be the next dead family they are wasting their money buying his gides. i buy acid in bulk from labs that make it consistant and clean. you will never get that clean product at home in your sink
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Put me down as a buyer for the DVD @ $7k.
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so anyway, they banned me for putting up my email address in the forum after trying to organize agroup buy bringing down cost to current vendors. i will post this here because well they are stupid. lower cost for vendors means bigger profits for them. I have a vendor account but since I didn't list the account in my post i must be banned. the mods are stupid. i never said that this guy doesn't know what he is talking about because he probably does. and i dont rememeber saying it was super hard to make and nobody could do it. but i don't want to buy acid from some guy who made his first batch. i take comfort in the labs that produce consistantly. you say there is not a diference in acid made in a lab and acid made in a bathtub. what kind of tests do you run on bathtub acid to make sure it is pura i wonder. this guy might be smart but if he is making 80000 to make 80000 worth of acid and then still selling the 80000 worth of acid people are being ripped off by 80000 or am i only one that can dos the math. this guy should just make the acid and sell it instead of make excuse why he doesn't want to anymore but he wants to make movie instead.
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The fact you use the term dead family and state you buy bulk acid from labs outs you as one without a clue.
Theres no dead family you twit.
Column Chromatography can done in the kitchen but is not needed with Docs papers.
And Recrystallization can also be done ANY FUCKING WHERE...
So get out of this guys thread because your not fit to tie his shoes...
i am not competeing to teach people to make acid. i am saying that if they think they can make it at home safely to be the next dead family they are wasting their money buying his gides. i buy acid in bulk from labs that make it consistant and clean. you will never get that clean product at home in your sink
so you have made some acid and sell it? email me prices and i will see if you beat my current supplier you think every sink in the world is as clean as yours and you think that anyoe can pull this off without hurting them or someone else. fine pay your 80000 for his video and then pay another 80000 for the 10g he makes, or buy it from a consistant source with experience and proper equipment instead of buckets and duck tape like most home cookers will try.
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so you have made some acid and sell it? email me prices and i will see if you beat my current supplier you think every sink in the world is as clean as yours and you think that anyoe can pull this off without hurting them or someone else. fine pay your 80000 for his video and then pay another 80000 for the 10g he makes, or buy it from a consistant source with experience and proper equipment instead of buckets and duck tape like most home cookers will try.
Why do you assume that someone should be motivated by the money?
If doc was motivated by the money, we would have don exactly as you said - make the acid and sell it.
If you are motivated by the money, and if you have access to bulk acid at good prices, why not try re-selling it here and do us all come good?
The demand for acid is HUGE and good quality affordable acid disappears very quickly.
If you still have not understood the motivations and goals of this community, then you don't really belong here.
And posting an email address other than a tormail address is not a good idea IMO.
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it was a tormail address
he said he wanted to charge 80000 for the video and would make 10g then auction off that 10g. it will go around 8000 per g or more so 80000 for the video and another 80000 for the product. tell me again he is not motivated by money. and it is not even the same ddw as the one people think. the real ddw killed himself after he sold out ene on ovdb. this is an imposter trying to take your money because you want lsd. I have lsd. but sr does not make it worth it for someone who sells large amounts with all of their fees and only allowing bitcoin which is hard to get in my country. this is not a system built for freedom or anything else but a greed machine he built to corner the market. people with good prices here are not allowed to stay selling and if they are allowed the fees for someone like me would buy sr a new car every week. i have vendors selling my products on sr but i will not make my vendor pay a comision and make the user pay a comision to. that is greed not freedon or free access. when my vendors decide to move on then you all get to see a price increase. im sure you are ready to pay more so i will go ahead and let you pay more because the moderators gere think they are some all powerful force stopping spam but all they are doing now is stopping reasonable pricing.
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Learning to make LSD is only as difficult as learning:
-the proper chemistry lab technique
-the synthesis and reactions
-how to acquire reagent/precursor
I would believe the synthesis is easier to learn than the lab techniques for each individual reaction.
You must be able to be able to control temperature of the reaction the entire way through. You have to keep temps super precise all the while you work under an inert atmosphere (argon I assume, so that it 'sits on top of' your reactants?). There is a good portion of the reaction that must be done under a photographers dark room safe bulb with as little ambient light as possible. You must become the acid wizard.
LSD is really amazing. All this shennanigans about money and "the family" and negativity about why/how this can't/won't work should see yourself to the fuckin door.
This guy is proposing a DVD to teach you how to make acid. Let's think about this for a second. If I get a DVD on how to ride a motorcycle, am I going to win a race the next day?
You have to be cut from a certain cloth to have the mental capacity and drive to proceed with building a lab, acquiring precursor and reagent, and then acquiring the technique (and experience) with the reactions. Making illegal molecules is a nearly thankless effort. How much control of your ego do you have? Could you keep quiet when you just conjured 1g needlepoint white or would you JUST HAVE TO tell all your buddies? Tell one, consider it ten.
This DVD is an extraordinary offer but I ultimately believe that this efforts relies on the cooperation of a group of people I believe far too reluctant to come anywhere near it.. at very least as far as revealing the more arcane nonscientific art of procuring ergot.
Because after all, the rest is just lab techniques... haven't you seen pictures of Shulgin's lab?
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This is what the Internet is made for. Please move this project forward!
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Forget I said anything.
I thought maybe raising money escrow and doing the lottery for the final product would be a fun way to get people involved and interested. But I don't need the money to make the video, I just need to check interest. All these low quality minds on here spreading doubt that it can't be done is pointless "those saying it can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of those doing it" applies. Not to mention the countless references to misinformation on here (ergot being dangerous, a vacuum needed for inert atmosphere)
Because this will just cause bickering, speculation, etc I am not going to discuss this topic anymore.
Maybe one day a video will pop up and be sold for around 6K on SR along with a vial of production selected freeze dried claviceps paspali..
No point mentally masturbating, there is obviously more interested than I expected and more than enough to make something like this worthwhile.
I don't want your money. When I have copies of the video and someone has verified its legit it will be advertised on here.
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DrDeepWood,
Don't sound so dejected
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aciddeath: thanks for the pat on the back but in part your uneducated comments are one of the reasons I am not longer interested in discussing this. If I have to go behind everyone on this thread and explain how things are realistically I will never get anything done, having wide open misinformation comments will drive away otherwise interested parties.
You know how much paperwork is going to be involved in purchasing a strain of fungus that has the potential to destroy millions of acres of crops?
I sell a source who himself sells the production strain of claviceps paspali which produced 1.5g LSAs/L of broth, has no ergo-peptides which cause human poisoning (only if you swallow it anyway so its s moot point) and does not produce any type of spore, spore germination is required for ergot type fungi to pierce into its host.
So no paperwork
no crop infections
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The comments weren't meant for disrespect but inquiry.
Were my comments uneducated or simply soliciting an answer for my own edification?
I submit to you that I held a position on the very fine line between the two. Especially with regard to ergot acquisition.
I understand your lack of want to explain things 'behind' everyone in this thread but in a lot of ways that is exactly what the project aims to do.
What you're doing here and what you plan to do here is incredible stuff.
As for driving away interested parties... anyone worth their weight will certainly be able to read past the "PUT ME DOWN FOR 10DVDS OMFG I WILL SEND YOU 100,000,000quid if you sEND Me YoR DVD so I CaN MaKe ACID" and the elegantly noted example above)
edit: just checked your vendor page
pm forthcoming, whoa.
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Interested. Posting to get updates.
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Posting in case this actually comes to fruition someday.
Wish you luck with your video.
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dvds with the culture would be worth the price. I would find the money somehow!
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I really hope that such a video becomes available someday as it could surely increase the supply of LSD available and it might even make the price decrease as the market gets saturated. I'm not sure how long any sources mentioned in the video would stay alive after the release, but just watching someone go through the process in its entirety would be awesome in itself.