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Title: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on June 24, 2013, 09:56 pm
Hello Everyone and Every One! :)

Firstly, my apologies...

I have not been on the forums at all for some months as I've just not had the bandwidth to run the whole customer service and order process, and also maintain an active presence on the forums. And of course there is all the rest of Life apart from Silk Road that requires attention and responsibility.

I have truly missed our conversations and I am very happy to be back! And a big thank you to all of you (you know who you are) who have maintained the integrity and professionalism of our various threads on the SR Forums. I am very grateful...

I am happy to report that the reason I will now be able to be active on the forums again is because the lovely SilverFox (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;u=68424) has joined our team to manage the customer service and order processing cycle :)

Some of you have probably already met here. She is experienced, competent and capable and truly a delight to work with (chosen out of thousands!) and I am certain you will have an excellent experience with her. She is one of us. (If you want to know a bit more about this lovely lady... http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156118.0)

Furthermore, I am also pleased to report that the recent time away has allowed me to expend some energy on creative R&D in the lab. The fruits of this labour are two-fold:

1. We will, within days, be listing a 50/50 Na/K GHB (balanced mix of Sodium and Potassium GHB salts)! We are very pleased with our results. Potassium GHB is more hygroscopic, is a bitch to crystallize properly and has significantly lower yields than Sodium GHB, but we have perfected our process and have produced a beautiful dry white fluffy powder (of exquisite purity of course) that is a joy to handle and take. I will discuss more about the benefits and subtle distinctions of this product shortly in another post. (Na-GHB and K-GHB are not the same thing!)

2. We are in an advanced stage of set up to be able to supply consistently large volumes of the finest, full-spectrum, balanced Mescaline complex the world has ever seen. Right from soil and water specification and quality control, through excellent and time-tested cultivars of both T. pachanoi and T. peruvianus, sacred cultivation methods, and highly conscious and attuned extraction protocols, we are putting this one together with utmost care. As above, I will be making a dedicated post and new thread about this product shortly. Suffice to say, this will be the absolute business!! (And did I mention how exquisitely Mescaline and GHB combine?? Well I will soon - they like each other very much ;))

Love and Blessings to you all, and thank you again DPR for launching and steering this glowing crystal Pirate Ship. May it sail the high transcendental seas forever!

BlueGiraffe
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on June 24, 2013, 11:02 pm
Very promising.  People been dying for mescaline on here forever.

When you say Full-spectrum mescaline complex are you referring to a full scale extraction of alkaloids from the cactus you refer to?  I am trying to determine what exactly this means because when I extract and purify Mescaline HCL (or acetate or whatever) my goal is to have only mescaline.  Sounds like you are including something more and not proceeding to the final stages of purification?   Or am I not understanding your plan?
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on June 25, 2013, 12:15 am
Very promising.  People been dying for mescaline on here forever.

When you say Full-spectrum mescaline complex are you referring to a full scale extraction of alkaloids from the cactus you refer to?  I am trying to determine what exactly this means because when I extract and purify Mescaline HCL (or acetate or whatever) my goal is to have only mescaline.  Sounds like you are including something more and not proceeding to the final stages of purification?   Or am I not understanding your plan?

Our intention at this stage is to simply remove all cellulose bulk (including a deep and very thorough defat) and preserve the full alkaloid complex in the same profile as it exists in the plant (and thus preserve the essential spirit of the plant). We're still working on the protocol and testing as we go (it's not a bad day job!) and may do some minor refining and "polishing" towards the end, but the intention is to keep it essentially "whole". With regards to whether we keep the enzymes and perhaps some of the chlorophyll also, this will be determined as our experiment proceeds.

We can, and have considered taking it all the way to pure Mescaline (we'll be staying in the HCL world), but based on our relationship with the plant, the communication thus far is to keep it essentially whole. Certain facets of the non-Mescaline alkaloids, in their inherent synergy, appear to be largely responsible for the heart, body-high and more empathic dimensions of the trip, and we definitely want to preserve that.

Some washing that clarifies and opens the headspace is fine, but we don't want to "thin" it down to just Mescaline - delightfully crystalline high though it can be! This is also very much the preference of the shamans we work with who are involved in the cultivation, and who will be guiding our selection and blending of key strains and cultivars to produce a product that is both rich and deep (and always delicious), and always serves transformation and growth, even in the context of wild partying on the gear ;)

Further to this we will be incorporating spagyric processes from traditional alchemy to ensure wholeness and balance in the final product, and thus in the trip, and quite probably also adding in small concentrated amounts of Jing and Ojas replenishing herbs from both Chinese and Ayurvedic medicine to replenish that which is "burned" while tripping.

We've still got some development work to do in the lab, but the highest quality growing and supply partnership is firmly in place now. We'll be supplying separate products from each of San Pedro and Peruvian Torch (and possibly even T. terscheckii down the line), and plan to also keep batches cleanly separated and notated by the number of ribs, so for example we'll produce an entire batch from six ribbed only cactus, and then the next one will be a seven or eight rib batch, and this will allow people to explore the subtle nuances associated with these distinctions.

BG

Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: fiveotwo on June 25, 2013, 01:52 am
Our intention at this stage is to simply remove all cellulose bulk (including a deep and very thorough defat) and preserve the full alkaloid complex in the same profile as it exists in the plant (and thus preserve the essential spirit of the plant).
Awesome, I'd love to get in on this once it's ready.  Any ideas on what the dosage will be?  How many doses/grams the minimum order will be?  Any vague indication of price yet?  Cheers.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: thebakertrio on June 25, 2013, 02:11 am
lets sit back and see as i vote for all your doing.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on June 25, 2013, 03:28 am
Sounds great for the community.  I have a bunch of personally extracted Mesc HCL but may entertain an order just to compare.  Don't know how much my stomach will like all those extra alkaloids but still worth a shot.

As the poster above commented, will also be curious to know how you suggest dosing to achieve comparable effects to pure mesc.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: preacherman444 on June 25, 2013, 06:35 am
Nice to see you're back BG! I hadn't gotten around to placing an order from you yet but when I was ready to you disappeared. Was just thinking about this the other day. Glad to see you've returned.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: Intraterrestrial on June 25, 2013, 01:04 pm
Subbed.

Can't wait to sample the mescaline. If it's up to the standard of this vendor's ghb we are in for a treat.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: coglac on June 25, 2013, 02:41 pm
Subbaruski
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: wuty on June 25, 2013, 05:43 pm
Mescaline sounds interesting, subbing. Also, what about the prices?
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on June 25, 2013, 07:52 pm
Our intention at this stage is to simply remove all cellulose bulk (including a deep and very thorough defat) and preserve the full alkaloid complex in the same profile as it exists in the plant (and thus preserve the essential spirit of the plant).
Awesome, I'd love to get in on this once it's ready.  Any ideas on what the dosage will be?  How many doses/grams the minimum order will be?  Any vague indication of price yet?  Cheers.

It's going to be sold in size "00" vegecaps - and it remains to be seen how concentrated we can get it while still preserving the essential qualities we want. As a very rough rule of thumb, working on 1% Mescaline activity by dry weight, we could say that 50g of dry, dark green outer flesh powder would be a solid trip, as would be 500mg of Mescaline HCL, so the dose will be somewhere between those 2 extremes - hopefully we'll get it down to just a couple of grams - but will confirm shortly.

We'll have a one trip minimum order initially until our gear is well known. Pricing will be decent.

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on June 25, 2013, 07:59 pm
Sounds great for the community.  I have a bunch of personally extracted Mesc HCL but may entertain an order just to compare.  Don't know how much my stomach will like all those extra alkaloids but still worth a shot.

As the poster above commented, will also be curious to know how you suggest dosing to achieve comparable effects to pure mesc.

It will be smooth on the digestion ;)

And will definitely appreciate feedback from people such as yourself who have experience with cactus and Mescaline - if we need some R&D in-process input we may, with your permission, send you a review sample or two...

Dosing protocol will be communicated once we have it all sorted...

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on June 25, 2013, 08:00 pm
Nice to see you're back BG! I hadn't gotten around to placing an order from you yet but when I was ready to you disappeared. Was just thinking about this the other day. Glad to see you've returned.

Thank you (bow)
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on June 26, 2013, 02:50 am
It will be smooth on the digestion ;)

And will definitely appreciate feedback from people such as yourself who have experience with cactus and Mescaline - if we need some R&D in-process input we may, with your permission, send you a review sample or two...

Dosing protocol will be communicated once we have it all sorted...

All good things.  Looking forward to checking it out and happy to review a sample if you so choose to offer. 

Mescaline is by far my favorite chemical so a potentially new experience always sounds fun.  I've tried full spectrum a few times via a method involving despining, skinning, coring, and boiling down into a small glass of green sludge; but since I started doing real extractions I've always separated out the other alkaloids with Acetone/IPA.  I've tried taking those alkaloids by themselves before but never with purified Mesc HCL.  I ended up giving all the extras away to some friends a while ago so now am just left with the HCL.  Your explanations and mention of working with shamans have me thinking now that maybe I missed out by not trying the full spectrum purified.

Anyway, good luck and I will watch for the news that is is ready.  Cheers.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on July 01, 2013, 07:11 pm
wowoao! the mescaline synthesis sounds amazing, as does the different forms of GHB your offering! never experienced GHB, but your ledgendary vendor status & constantly commendable customer service cause you to stand out.

i'l definately be sampling the mesc when it hits the shelves & will do my research and contemplate the GHB

peace
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: boneeater on July 01, 2013, 08:35 pm
Im very excited to see this hit the road, Ive wanted to try mescaline for a long time its just so rare unless you know where to pick and live in the correct geographical area which i'm way too far out from any area possible, plus the concentrate would be much easier to down im sure. Ive been heavily into mushrooms and tried 25c-nbome lately and I really enjoy those but everything ive read nothing compares to mescaline visual wise, I dont really get hardcore visuals from mushrooms other than brighter colors, slight morphing of objects and solid CEV's so I look foreward to your product hitting the road, any kind of ETA on it? :D
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: SilverFox on July 05, 2013, 10:56 am
Just showing my face to keep subbed... xxx
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: marcellus_wallace on July 05, 2013, 06:40 pm
I'm sure if that mescaline is of decent quality and price you'll have a very long line of customers including me  :)
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 06, 2013, 10:43 pm
It will be smooth on the digestion ;)

And will definitely appreciate feedback from people such as yourself who have experience with cactus and Mescaline - if we need some R&D in-process input we may, with your permission, send you a review sample or two...

Dosing protocol will be communicated once we have it all sorted...

All good things.  Looking forward to checking it out and happy to review a sample if you so choose to offer. 

Mescaline is by far my favorite chemical so a potentially new experience always sounds fun.  I've tried full spectrum a few times via a method involving despining, skinning, coring, and boiling down into a small glass of green sludge; but since I started doing real extractions I've always separated out the other alkaloids with Acetone/IPA.  I've tried taking those alkaloids by themselves before but never with purified Mesc HCL.  I ended up giving all the extras away to some friends a while ago so now am just left with the HCL.  Your explanations and mention of working with shamans have me thinking now that maybe I missed out by not trying the full spectrum purified.

Anyway, good luck and I will watch for the news that is is ready.  Cheers.

Will let you know when we're ready - will be great to get your input!

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 07, 2013, 12:11 am
wowoao! the mescaline synthesis sounds amazing, as does the different forms of GHB your offering! never experienced GHB, but your ledgendary vendor status & constantly commendable customer service cause you to stand out.

i'l definately be sampling the mesc when it hits the shelves & will do my research and contemplate the GHB

peace

GHB well worth experimenting with - a key part of any psychonaut's "doctor bag" imho. Post any trip it's almost obligatory...
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 07, 2013, 12:34 am
Im very excited to see this hit the road, Ive wanted to try mescaline for a long time its just so rare unless you know where to pick and live in the correct geographical area which i'm way too far out from any area possible, plus the concentrate would be much easier to down im sure. Ive been heavily into mushrooms and tried 25c-nbome lately and I really enjoy those but everything ive read nothing compares to mescaline visual wise, I dont really get hardcore visuals from mushrooms other than brighter colors, slight morphing of objects and solid CEV's so I look foreward to your product hitting the road, any kind of ETA on it? :D

We are hard at work in the lab! Taking longer than anticipated, but we are serious tweakers :) and we are really intending that the product we ultimately release will become THE gold standard for full-spectrum plant-based Mescaline complex available anywhere - so it's got to be right.

Visuals can get VERY rich and detailed on Mescaline and probably closer to LSD than mushrooms in this respect. But it is the Bright Heart that is expressed through this sacred substance that is its real magic...

Watch this space :)

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: correctly on July 07, 2013, 12:52 pm
this is exciting!
before I had a trip on some mescaline i extracted myself
600mg gave me visions not visuals
absolutely love the stuff

what are the expected dosages for your mescaline?
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 07, 2013, 05:14 pm
Depends on how much of the rest of the alkaloid complex and plant factors we keep in - will make a detailed report when we're there. We'll post on this thread as we progress...

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 07, 2013, 05:48 pm
I'm sure if that mescaline is of decent quality and price you'll have a very long line of customers including me  :)

Excellent! We like long lines of customers :)

The spice must flow...
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: remoulade on July 08, 2013, 03:58 pm
Surely GHB combined with mescaline is the ultimate sexual experience?
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: MrPsych on July 08, 2013, 04:20 pm
Sounds like you're doing a good job! I'm working on my own mescaline extractions as well as DMT at the moment, but you seem to be a bit ahead of me, glad to know someone else in the UK is on the same path :) much respect and will be staying tuned and can't wait to try you're mescaline and hopefully when i'm happy with my results i'l send you a free sample to see what you think since you obviously know what you're on about!

One love

MrPsych
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: Oneyedwilly on July 09, 2013, 08:45 pm
Ooh this is exciting news - looking forward to the Mescaline! Canny wait to have a go! ;D
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 09, 2013, 09:09 pm
Im very excited to see this hit the road, Ive wanted to try mescaline for a long time its just so rare unless you know where to pick and live in the correct geographical area which i'm way too far out from any area possible, plus the concentrate would be much easier to down im sure. Ive been heavily into mushrooms and tried 25c-nbome lately and I really enjoy those but everything ive read nothing compares to mescaline visual wise, I dont really get hardcore visuals from mushrooms other than brighter colors, slight morphing of objects and solid CEV's so I look foreward to your product hitting the road, any kind of ETA on it? :D

We are hard at work in the lab! Taking longer than anticipated, but we are serious tweakers :) and we are really intending that the product we ultimately release will become THE gold standard for full-spectrum plant-based Mescaline complex available anywhere - so it's got to be right.

Visuals can get VERY rich and detailed on Mescaline and probably closer to LSD than mushrooms in this respect. But it is the Bright Heart that is expressed through this sacred substance that is its real magic...

Watch this space :)

BG


I am cross posting my Mescaline experience here.  Hope this helps.

This past weekend I took 683mg of Mescaline and I must say this was the single most important day of my life.

10 hours of fasting with 2 bananas at 4 hours prior to tripping and 2g of raw ginger did the trick.

Made 400ml of tea with the mighty medicine and consumed over a period of an hour.

No puking at all.

There is no words for this experience.

A long part of trip felt orgasm type of euphoria. I had that mental state little more than an hour.

The body tremor or vibration was unimaginable and I wished I could have that in my every waking moment :)

Mescaline is my new favorite medicine.

GSE


Beautiful description! Thank you for sharing...

+1

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 09, 2013, 09:13 pm
Surely GHB combined with mescaline is the ultimate sexual experience?

I think it may well be up there as one of the ultimate catalysts for such...

When added to LOVE, passion and intimacy I believe we have a recipe for a new kind of magic ;)

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 09, 2013, 09:16 pm
Sounds like you're doing a good job! I'm working on my own mescaline extractions as well as DMT at the moment, but you seem to be a bit ahead of me, glad to know someone else in the UK is on the same path :) much respect and will be staying tuned and can't wait to try you're mescaline and hopefully when i'm happy with my results i'l send you a free sample to see what you think since you obviously know what you're on about!

One love

MrPsych

Excellent! Please keep us all informed of your process. The greater the availability of this sacred substance the better. The time is now...

Happy to swop samples with you...

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: MangoSeason on July 09, 2013, 09:29 pm
Sub  :) keen to try mescaline again
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: remoulade on July 10, 2013, 10:28 am
Surely GHB combined with mescaline is the ultimate sexual experience?

I think it may well be up there as one of the ultimate catalysts for such...

When added to LOVE, passion and intimacy I believe we have a recipe for a new kind of magic ;)

BG

Oh, indeed - the right people, GHB and some cactus juice would be very special. My first mescaline experience I had the most erotic imagery of my life, including an erection which lasted for approximately 12 hours.

I've still got some of your magical GHB from my lottery win left over after taking ~3 month sobriety break, and I cultivate my own cacti so might dip my toes in that pond very soon!
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 10, 2013, 06:15 pm
12 hours eh...?

Your lady must have been happy!!

The first time I took GHB and cactus at the same time I was actually amazed at the synergy - which was quite unexpected for me.

So yes... I think this one is gonna get interesting ;)

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: frankmacca on July 10, 2013, 06:43 pm
Mescalin has given me some magical visions and some erotic experiences. I agree that the visuals tend to be more 'focused' than mushrooms at times (depending on the variety, set/setting but generally speaking)

I've never tried the two together but LOVE sex on both... conbined!!!???

I'm imagining the universe melting into one buddha-eye booty shake (tm)

Can't wait to try BG!
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: remoulade on July 10, 2013, 10:29 pm
12 hours eh...?

Your lady must have been happy!!

The first time I took GHB and cactus at the same time I was actually amazed at the synergy - which was quite unexpected for me.

So yes... I think this one is gonna get interesting ;)

BG

Unfortunately my lady wasn't with me, so I had to keep it tucked in the band whilst writhing on a bed. I can't imagine the things I'd have done if she'd been there... Oh my days!  ;D

The rush from mescaline along with G's sedative effects could make for an extra pleasurable experience as well; this is definitely next on my to do list, for sure.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 11, 2013, 12:35 am
50/50 Na-GHB & K-GHB powder is now launched!

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/487880fadc

Enjoy ;)

BlueGiraffe
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: Intraterrestrial on July 11, 2013, 12:38 am
absolutely thrilled to hopefully get the opportunity to try mescaline....been waiting a loooong time

EDIT - BlueGiraffe could you say a little more about the difference between the two ghb forms and the effect when combined?
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 11, 2013, 01:22 am
absolutely thrilled to hopefully get the opportunity to try mescaline....been waiting a loooong time

EDIT - BlueGiraffe could you say a little more about the difference between the two ghb forms and the effect when combined?

For those that are uber particular about their health, maintaining the electrolyte balance (between sodium and potassium) in the body is a good thing. Na-GHB on its own adds to the body's sodium levels (which in any case tend to be a little higher than they should be due to the high processed-food diet of most people these days).

Adding K-GHB in at a 50/50 ratio brings approximately an equal amount of potassium into the body (which most people are deficient in because they don't eat all their greens), so altogether this has a health benefit.

The amount of sodium added to the body from occasional (and even regular) Na-GHB use is pretty marginal (like sprinkling double the salt on your fries), but from an ideal health perspective it can be improved upon. So we did :)

Interestingly as well, while K-GHB and Na-GHB "should" be identical from a pharmacological perspective, they aren't! It's subtle, but K-GHB definitely manifests more in the mind and emotions, and somewhat less in the body. Both Na-GHB and K-GHB are empathic but K-GHB is slightly more so, and it also seems slightly more stimulating, and makes for great deep conversation and lively discourse - definitely seems to open the pysche a bit more than the Na-GHB.

Conversely Na-GHB feels more in the body, more raunchy, disinhibited and slobbery :)  So Na-GHB is probably nicer for passionate sweaty uninhibited fucking, and K-GHB nicer for deep heart-to-heart conversations and social interactions. They're both GHB in everyway of course too - but this distinction is definitely noticeable. The 50/50 combo really works nicely bringing these aspects together.

K-GHB is slightly more bitter tasting than Na-GHB which is just mildly salty. It is also slightly more hygroscopic than Na-GHB, but in the blend it appears not to be a problem at all. Finally K-GHB is about 13% weaker by weight than Na-GHB, so the 50/50 blend is about 6.5% weaker than straight Na-GHB. Very minor, but you may wish to account for it in your measuring.

Yields are are quite a bit lower with the K-GHB and it's a total bitch to crystallize properly, so more lab time involved in making it - hence the higher price. Most people will probably use the Na-GHB as their staple but also have the 50/50 on hand for when they want to tweak the mood in that direction. Of course the serious health freaks who want to get more heart-protecting potassium in their diet from their "drug" use will probably enjoy this as well!

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: marcellus_wallace on July 11, 2013, 01:46 am
^^^ thanks for the info, looking forward to when you list some mescaline.
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 14, 2013, 11:00 pm
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1954 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: Intraterrestrial on July 14, 2013, 11:30 pm
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but I've certainly become more certain that I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1963 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG

woohoo, fukkin right, sounds, well nevermind would take too long

BRING the mescaline BG...whistle well and truly wetted...drenched in fact ;D ;D

oh and thankee for the ghb combo info, +1
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: frankmacca on July 16, 2013, 01:18 am
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1954 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG

I await your comic results. No hurry BG..it happens when it's meant to happen
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: TorXic on July 16, 2013, 08:17 am
+1

Mescaline is on my list
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: bodnostrokulum on July 16, 2013, 08:57 am
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.


BG

Man this is so exciting, a true lifechanger  8) Cant wait to meet the sacred plant.
Good karma on your mission !!!
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: frankmacca on July 16, 2013, 03:11 pm
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1954 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG

I await your comic results. No hurry BG..it happens when it's meant to happen

I meant 'cosmic' .. now that's comic!
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: gtgeorgz on July 16, 2013, 06:11 pm
ETA on the mescaline? Very excited for that . :)
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: frankmacca on July 16, 2013, 10:53 pm
I meant 'cosmic' .. now that's comic!

That's the cosmic comic!!!

The COMIC of the COSMOS will be revealed while on MESCALINE :)

             

Nice one GSE! :)

Do you have a rough ETA on the c3 (comically cosmic concoction) BG?

Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 18, 2013, 09:58 am
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.


BG

Man this is so exciting, a true lifechanger  8) Cant wait to meet the sacred plant.
Good karma on your mission !!!

Thanks for your blessings and good energy! All welcomed when one is working with power :)

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 18, 2013, 10:06 am
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1954 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG

I await your comic results. No hurry BG..it happens when it's meant to happen

I meant 'cosmic' .. now that's comic!

LOL

"The deeper the cosmicity the greater the comedy" ~ Great Grey Flying Giraffe (my grandad)
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 18, 2013, 10:57 am
I meant 'cosmic' .. now that's comic!

That's the cosmic comic!!!

The COMIC of the COSMOS will be revealed while on MESCALINE :)

             

Nice one GSE! :)

Do you have a rough ETA on the c3 (comically cosmic concoction) BG?

ETA... I'd like to say about a month, but what we're learning is that this process cannot be rushed. Different strains of cactus being tested, different dosage levels, different extraction protocols - and all have to be benchmarked, bio-assayed and compared.

And of course, as these bio-assays are taking place in the delicate instruments that are our own bodies, we're having to leave a week between trips to ensure we do not get any tolerance issues clouding our evaluations.

We definitely want to ensure that when we launch, we have it totally right in every respect, so we'll rather take a little longer time to get there to guarantee this.

What we may do as an interim measure, if you're all hanging a little ;) and there is serious interest, is make the raw powder available (only outer dark green flesh used) pre-packed in size "00" vege-capsules. It's a lot of caps to swallow (50+) but provides an excellent and VERY smooth trip - in large part due to the raw cactus having to be digested in the stomach first (which it does easily) before metabolism. Come up is slow and gradual - over at least a 3 hour period.

If there is interest in this interim product while we continue refining our final product in the lab please let me know here.

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: tiltedtothemax on July 18, 2013, 03:52 pm
An extremely interesting read, thanks for keeping us up to date with your process BG.

I have been looking for quality mescaline for quite some time and was extremely surprised to not find it on SR. You are doing the community a huge service and I am extremely interested in trying your final product; subbed  ;D
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 18, 2013, 04:52 pm
You're welcome dude...

Mescaline has always been a treasured rarity for two reasons:

The synth of pure Mescaline HCL/Sulphate is complex, expensive and low effective yield (due to it being active in the 500mg range only), and...

The extraction of Mescaline or the total Mescaline alkaloid complex (our preference) is time consuming, very labour intensive, and requires a LOT of cactus for ongoing viability.

We believe however that the time is right for this truly sacred substance - so we're going to do it all the way. Our cultivated stock (mainly T. pachanoi) has been in the patient ground for the better part of twenty years, and now it wants to be eaten!

Having cut my teeth on LSD, and of course many other psychedelics over the years, I've come to the point where I honestly rate Mescaline the One - it's a real step up from Acid in terms of depth and richness, and has a subtle but clear MDMA-like warmth to it too (especially when it's the whole Mescaline complex).

We are very much looking forward to be putting this in your hands! Stoked to have your interest and energy :)

Love always,

BG
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: Intraterrestrial on July 18, 2013, 07:07 pm
take your own sweet time BG

somethings cannot be rushed, excellence must not be hurried

when it's ready we will be too

+1 for the mescaline alchemists :)
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: MangoSeason on July 18, 2013, 07:28 pm
This sounds amazing!

Not too many places in the world would you get the opportunity to enjoy this gift.

Thanks BG  :)
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: remoulade on July 18, 2013, 09:18 pm
Mescaline was my first psychedelic experience and to this day is still the experience I hold dearest. I learned so much in those 12 hours. Even with psychedelic cocktails of varying intensity and silliness I have never managed to return to the place a single dose of mescaline took me!

As BG says, read some Huxley if you haven't had the opportunity yet. If you can't wait for BG's extract, cook up some cactus soup - the raw materials can easily be purchased on clearnet (...or the pellets BG is kindly offering).
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 19, 2013, 02:04 pm
Mescaline was my first psychedelic experience and to this day is still the experience I hold dearest. I learned so much in those 12 hours. Even with psychedelic cocktails of varying intensity and silliness I have never managed to return to the place a single dose of mescaline took me!

As BG says, read some Huxley if you haven't had the opportunity yet. If you can't wait for BG's extract, cook up some cactus soup - the raw materials can easily be purchased on clearnet (...or the pellets BG is kindly offering).

+1
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: frankmacca on July 19, 2013, 08:49 pm
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1954 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG

I await your comic results. No hurry BG..it happens when it's meant to happen

I meant 'cosmic' .. now that's comic!

LOL

"The deeper the cosmicity the greater the comedy" ~ Great Grey Flying Giraffe (my grandad)

Your grandpa could fly!? I'm just picturing what a flying giraffe would look like!

lol
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: ragnarok888 on July 19, 2013, 10:25 pm

Quote

ETA... I'd like to say about a month, but what we're learning is that this process cannot be rushed. Different strains of cactus being tested, different dosage levels, different extraction protocols - and all have to be benchmarked, bio-assayed and compared.

And of course, as these bio-assays are taking place in the delicate instruments that are our own bodies, we're having to leave a week between trips to ensure we do not get any tolerance issues clouding our evaluations.

We definitely want to ensure that when we launch, we have it totally right in every respect, so we'll rather take a little longer time to get there to guarantee this.

What we may do as an interim measure, if you're all hanging a little ;) and there is serious interest, is make the raw powder available (only outer dark green flesh used) pre-packed in size "00" vege-capsules. It's a lot of caps to swallow (50+) but provides an excellent and VERY smooth trip - in large part due to the raw cactus having to be digested in the stomach first (which it does easily) before metabolism. Come up is slow and gradual - over at least a 3 hour period.

If there is interest in this interim product while we continue refining our final product in the lab please let me know here.

BG

I would definitely be interested in purchasing capsules
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 20, 2013, 12:08 am
We're taking our time to make sure it's right ;)

Spent the whole weekend working on the product with my partner, part of which consisted of benchmarking a particular dose of raw dried San Pedro - uncooked and unprocessed, and I have to say, it was finest, smoothest, clearest, richest and most luscious psychedelic experience I've ever had. As clear and as crystalline as excellent liquid acid, but infinitely smoother, much more heart and deeply and more naturally pleasurable in the body. A key feature I noticed for the first time too, was that it was constantly integrating the psychedelic experience with my natural consciousness in a fluid seamlessness, rather than requiring a period of integration after the trip - thus making it altogether more usable.

I intend to write a more detailed post on it, and possibly also start a dedicated thread about our development process and Mescaline in general, but in the meantime, I've certainly become more clear than I already was: Mescaline is the bomb! It's the Rolls Royce. It's the pink, green and silvery translucent, transcendental leaping salmon-king of psychedelics IMHO, and it would be my first choice every time if given the opportunity.

I was reminded again of Huxley's seminal text on Mescaline from 1954 ~ The Doors of Perception, and I encourage all who have a deeper interest in the psychedelic experience to read this excellent work. It's online here: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/writings/huxley_doors.shtml

Will post more as we proceed...

BG

I await your comic results. No hurry BG..it happens when it's meant to happen

I meant 'cosmic' .. now that's comic!

LOL

"The deeper the cosmicity the greater the comedy" ~ Great Grey Flying Giraffe (my grandad)

Your grandpa could fly!? I'm just picturing what a flying giraffe would look like!

lol

All giraffes can fly dude... common knowledge I thought?? My grandpa flew all the time though, which is why he got the name...
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: modernist on July 25, 2013, 01:08 pm
Mescaline was also my first experience. I did it many more times since then, so I consider myself an expert user. Along with LSD (and DMT in a different way) it's my number 1 psychedelic. I agree, I like a full cactus extraction better than pure M. It's softer, less edgy, more spiritual, "deeper" in a sense. I've done Pachanoi and Peruvianus, never Peyote because they grow so slowly that I can't get myself to kill a Peyote for tripping. Pachanoi more than Peruvianus has an MDMA-like quality especially during the comeup. Peruvianus in my experience is maybe a little stronger and more electric/detached.

Can't wait for this product to be available. I will try it for sure!
Title: Re: Full-spectrum Mescaline complex, K-GHB, and I'm sorry I've been away so long!
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 28, 2013, 05:25 pm
Appreciate your input modernist - and will be great to get your feedback when our product is ready. Will be full-spectrum pachanoi (though may also offer small amounts of peruvianus on the side)...

+1