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Title: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: quinone on December 13, 2011, 04:26 am
Is there any interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate pills (manufactured by ratiopharm) ?

Here's a link to what the pill looks like (crafty fuckers writing TEC on it, you Canadians will know that TEC on a pill usually means its the 'brand' perc/T3/whatever your buying ... when in fact, for codeine phosphate at least its a completely generic manufacturing company lol):

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&noj=1&tbm=isch&tbnid=iWQJYzK73nJtzM:&imgrefurl=http://www.pharmer.org/forum/pill-identification/round-white-pills-tec-30-and-tec-35&docid=n0f1PY9DdlqSYM&imgurl=http://www.pharmer.org/files/images/TecCodeine30mg.jpg&w=300&h=178&ei=QNLmTuT6C4GaiALg8pmTBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=199&vpy=186&dur=703&hovh=142&hovw=240&tx=111&ty=84&sig=107857940076669709302&page=1&tbnh=117&tbnw=198&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1900&bih=900

It's a weak opiate I know, but there is no Acetaminophen/etc. so you can eat em to your hearts content (my doc told me to take 6 at a time :) ).

I'm considering purchasing an SR seller's account but not too sure if the demand is there or if they have any value so if it'd even be worth it at all, feedback in any capacity is always welcome and i'm very grateful for.

CANADIAN crowd i'm looking at you. If I do sell, I want as many of my clients to be Canadians as possible. 

I am UPSET personally of not being able to get a LOT of things on SR cuz it's shipment requires the risk of crossing a border (and hell I understand the vendor's apprehension, why take risk sending across border vs. no border).  I want this product in CANADIAN'S hands more then anything cuz I know i'm suffering, and so are you, fellow hosers.

Feedback on demand/value/anything valuable would be very much appreciated !
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: jedi10 on December 13, 2011, 05:24 am
I would be interested. I would consider a better narcotic, but still...
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: triangle_list on December 13, 2011, 05:26 am
Ohh ya. If it's not too expensive. If I can buy 3mg of morphine or heroin for the same price as 1 it's too expensive.
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: jedi10 on December 13, 2011, 05:28 am
Aren't you able to have stronger narcotic medications?
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: quinone on December 13, 2011, 06:40 am
Aren't you able to have stronger narcotic medications?

My doctor refuses to give me stronger meds.   He has not once in his career prescribed percocet to anyone.  Weird thing is once he did give me dilaudid (talk about a jump) once, but they weren't good at all and just fucked with my stomach (were only 2mg I think anyways) .. wasnt in the mindset of selling them at the time either.

In Canada you can't Doctor shop, so you are pretty much stuck with what you get.  I'm on disability (government recognized, they send me drug/dental benefits and a cheque each month), and in CONSTANT pain, yet my doc won't do shit regarding the opiate world to help (and the meds to treat my condition, which by its name youll know what it is, is Daily Chronic Migraines. also don't do shit).

So, yeah, I have to come on here and pay out the nose the very little money I have to get stronger opiates for dealing with breakthrough pain, and harder still is that most vendor's won't ship to Canada

So, no, i'm not able go get stronger narcotic medications

Back to reality

Yeah I know they're weak as shit, no denying that lol.  Figured i'd ask though cuz I got enough to vend that are otherwise going to never be used and that makes me cry as opiate molecules are being neglected :(

What would someone assume these are worth, throw a number out there ... I won't use it likely (cuz youll throw a number that gives you a good deal and not me lol :D), but must gauge interest/feasibility
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: triangle_list on December 13, 2011, 07:04 am
I'd probably pay up to 70 dollars for 50. Try low dose (1/4 hit) LSD for chronic migraine, I never heard of opiates doing much good for headaches in the long run, even making them worse possibly.
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: jedi10 on December 13, 2011, 07:12 am
I don't get it. I live in Canada too. I work in a pharmacy and study in pharmacology. Codeine is like the weakest narcotic. Passed 60 mg you won't see major differences. I've seen quite some people in your situation, on Quebec's social programs, getting free medications because of chronic pain caused by an accident for instance. The thing is, these people sometimes have what I can call an opiate buffet, all sorts of different narcotic medications, in different formulations and strengths, enough that it would definitely kill me to take all of these. I don't understand why your doctor doesn't prescribe you a stronger narcotic since codeine is mostly used in relatively mild pain, not acute and chronic pain. At my pharmacy, we never give pure codeine pills, we have some though.
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: jedi10 on December 13, 2011, 07:17 am
Don't you take any sorts of tryptans? Imitrex, Zomig, Maxalt?
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: quinone on December 13, 2011, 07:39 am
I'd probably pay up to 70 dollars for 50. Try low dose (1/4 hit) LSD for chronic migraine, I never heard of opiates doing much good for headaches in the long run, even making them worse possibly.

Yeah i've heard the LSD thing, never tried it cuz never had access to LSD until SR, and too scared to try it cuz I alongside this pain whatever have some mental issues .. lol

Opiates don't do much for headaches or migraines at all, you are absolutely correct.  They cause 'rebound headaches' in a lot of people, myself being one of them.  I avoid em like the plague, and why do you think I have enough codeine phosphate to start vending? lol  They are important though if I HAVE to be somewhere/do something ... I really do not want to be leeching off of tax payers while i'm on disability if I can get back into the workplace in a self-reliant capacity.  The headache that comes back is often worse too.

I don't get it. I live in Canada too. I work in a pharmacy and study in pharmacology. Codeine is like the weakest narcotic. Passed 60 mg you won't see major differences. I've seen quite some people in your situation, on Quebec's social programs, getting free medications because of chronic pain caused by an accident for instance. The thing is, these people sometimes have what I can call an opiate buffet, all sorts of different narcotic medications, in different formulations and strengths, enough that it would definitely kill me to take all of these. I don't understand why your doctor doesn't prescribe you a stronger narcotic since codeine is mostly used in relatively mild pain, not acute and chronic pain. At my pharmacy, we never give pure codeine pills, we have some though.
I know what codeine is.  I don't see how your academic credentials are relevant either ... I have a PhD in Biophysics, I worked with Structural Biochemistry ... had to leave my entire life (structural biochemistry research) cuz of this migraine nonsense.  My doc gives me 'pure' codeine pills cuz I asked him to.  He was giving me Tylenol 3, I told him I don't like taking tylenol to begin with, led alone the 1.9g of it I took each dose !!
You have no control at your pharmacy over what get's prescribed, if the doctor writes codeine phosphate, that's what you give the patient.
If you refer to the above comment about REBOUND MIGRAINES you will see why my doc probably doesn't give me stronger narcotics, but also like I said he refuses to do it as part of his practice

Don't you take any sorts of tryptans? Imitrex, Zomig, Maxalt?

I have tried one or two of the TRIPTAN class drugs, but for one thing they are considerably more expensive then anything almost even heroin I can get on SR lol.  5 20mg Maxalt wafers cost $100.  I have limited experience with them but they by no means have had any effectiveness in aborting a headache.  Furthermore its a chronic condition, you don't want to be using abortive medicine on a chronic condition, too expensive, and will exacerbate the migraines down the road just like opiates.

Triangle, I was thinking $1.25-$1.50 each, so $70 for 50 sounds tenable, I was just unsure what pricepoint to even start at. 

Didn't want to throw out any numbers either cuz trolls, and or/mean/rude people will come out and attack the irrelevant parts of my comments regarding the topic of the post, right jedi? 
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: triangle_list on December 13, 2011, 07:58 am
I'd probably pay up to 70 dollars for 50. Try low dose (1/4 hit) LSD for chronic migraine, I never heard of opiates doing much good for headaches in the long run, even making them worse possibly.

Yeah i've heard the LSD thing, never tried it cuz never had access to LSD until SR, and too scared to try it cuz I alongside this pain whatever have some mental issues .. lol

Opiates don't do much for headaches or migraines at all, you are absolutely correct.  They cause 'rebound headaches' in a lot of people, myself being one of them.  I avoid em like the plague, and why do you think I have enough codeine phosphate to start vending? lol  They are important though if I HAVE to be somewhere/do something ... I really do not want to be leeching off of tax payers while i'm on disability if I can get back into the workplace in a self-reliant capacity.  The headache that comes back is often worse too.
If I were in pain all the time I'd probably have even more issues too. ;) If it's that you're worried about, LSD has nearly imperceptible psychological effects in the 50 microgram range, I think it has been reported effective for migraines around there, and you can buy single doses on SR. Take heed, LSD is one of the more scammed drugs, only rivaled by heroin on SR so check the forums and make sure it's a reliable vendor. Shit, one guy sells both from time to time but I think only 10 strips!
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: jedi10 on December 13, 2011, 08:01 am
I'm sorry didn't see it was about migraine at first. Yeah, I get it about your chronic situation. Triptans are usually quite effective in migraine treatments, but since migraine is not usually that chronic it can be financially annoying. They are actually pricy, most of them are still original medications. I really find it sad for you. I'd really like to help people like you in finding the right treatment for such a sad cause. Guess that's why I'm into that field of study ;)
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: wowzers on December 13, 2011, 10:19 am
quinone, don't know if you've tried mushrooms before? The physiological effects can be very similar to the aura of a migraine. The involvement of the serotonin system in migraines is very apparent if you're both a migraine sufferer and tryptamine user. Some friends, my auntie and I have all used low dose mushrooms (1g cubensis) to abort migraines. They seem to be more effective than the triptans or ET. I only get migraines very occasionally, but some friends have reported that a single dose of mushrooms has resulted in a 2-3 week remission from otherwise daily migraines. 1g gives barely perceptible visual disturbances and you could get on with everyday activities.

If they work for you, you might want to experiment with the various 4-substituted dialkyltryptamines on the market at the moment.
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: quinone on December 13, 2011, 03:32 pm
quinone, don't know if you've tried mushrooms before? The physiological effects can be very similar to the aura of a migraine. The involvement of the serotonin system in migraines is very apparent if you're both a migraine sufferer and tryptamine user. Some friends, my auntie and I have all used low dose mushrooms (1g cubensis) to abort migraines. They seem to be more effective than the triptans or ET. I only get migraines very occasionally, but some friends have reported that a single dose of mushrooms has resulted in a 2-3 week remission from otherwise daily migraines. 1g gives barely perceptible visual disturbances and you could get on with everyday activities.

If they work for you, you might want to experiment with the various 4-substituted dialkyltryptamines on the market at the moment.

I'm on Buproprion (well its the one I think responsible) and have taken more then 5g of good (all my friends tripping their balls off of a gram) shrooms and never felt a single thing, same with MDMA.  I get in fights with ppl all the time cuz they think i'm just trying to pussy out on taking shrooms/MDMA ... when actually i'm INCREDIBLY PISSED that I can't and don't want to complain lol.  The 2 or 3 times i've tried to get high off shroom's they've done nothing in the aftermath for my migraines.

I tale verapamil, and my neurologist has me on a steadily increasing (to what I think is almost insanity) to 600mg/day of pregabalin.  Out of the years of trying I think verapamil MIGHT actually be MILDLY effective at reducing their frequency (not their duration though, they go on for 2-3 days, no less then 2).  I've also convinced him that WEED is in fact the only drug as of yet that's given me any measure of success (it's actually amazing cuz it somehow lets me ... 'focus' all the pain to one spot, which isn't great, but i'd rather have one intense pain in one spot then ... the crap I go through lol) and so he has me on Cesemet (Nabilone) which is a cannabinoid analog.  I just started it so no idea if it'll do anything.  I'm working on getting him to sign off on an MMAR (medical marijuanna card) but he's basically said no flat out at the moment, but he's a new neurologist to me.  I have seen so many neurologists, and they are all garbage, I could do their jobs lol, but this new one I have a confidence in him, he's the chief neurologist of the biggest hospital in the biggest city ... well you get the picture ... that and he actually LISTENS to me when I talk weed, it aint about getting high, I can do that without his help :D  O, and his solution, stick a needle in my spine ... which in about a week I get my first 'injection' of this nerve blocker.  I'll tell you this much, it aint blocking my nerves right now and I am scared as fuck at having a needle stuck into the back of my neck in my spine near the brainstem ...why can't they just let me smoke/eat weed !

Thank you for your support and advice wowzers (and jedi and triangle).

Anyways, back to the topic at hand.  I've had one person say they had interest, is that it?  I'm sellin these cuz I NEED money, so ... someone give me a reason to spend $150 on a seller's account lol ... or, we can do out of escrow forum trades (nah i'm jk, out of escrow and you are a fool :D)
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: jedi10 on December 14, 2011, 05:39 pm
Are you going to sell those or not man?
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: quinone on December 14, 2011, 06:45 pm
Are you going to sell those or not man?

So far only one (well 2 including you now) person has expressed interest in buying them, so I can't justify buying a $150 seller account.  Feel free to PM me on here though.
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: foxymeow on December 14, 2011, 07:14 pm
Aren't you able to have stronger narcotic medications?

My doctor refuses to give me stronger meds.   He has not once in his career prescribed percocet to anyone.  Weird thing is once he did give me dilaudid (talk about a jump) once, but they weren't good at all and just fucked with my stomach (were only 2mg I think anyways) .. wasnt in the mindset of selling them at the time either.

In Canada you can't Doctor shop, so you are pretty much stuck with what you get.  I'm on disability (government recognized, they send me drug/dental benefits and a cheque each month), and in CONSTANT pain, yet my doc won't do shit regarding the opiate world to help (and the meds to treat my condition, which by its name youll know what it is, is Daily Chronic Migraines. also don't do shit).

So, yeah, I have to come on here and pay out the nose the very little money I have to get stronger opiates for dealing with breakthrough pain, and harder still is that most vendor's won't ship to Canada

So, no, i'm not able go get stronger narcotic medications

Back to reality

Yeah I know they're weak as shit, no denying that lol.  Figured i'd ask though cuz I got enough to vend that are otherwise going to never be used and that makes me cry as opiate molecules are being neglected :(

What would someone assume these are worth, throw a number out there ... I won't use it likely (cuz youll throw a number that gives you a good deal and not me lol :D), but must gauge interest/feasibility

Quinone, have you tried MXE as a pain medication. It was invented by a chemist with a Phantom hand who had gone through all of the most intense opiates and didn't like the side effects they gave and didn't like opiates because he was not functional on them. Thus MXE is a variation of Ketamine that is easier on the body in the long term (a lot less liver/kidney problems) and it has very minimal sedation. It works partially on the receptors that opiates do and partially on the receptors that dissociates do.

You might have a lot of luck with it especially at a medicinal dose such as 10mg. At a medicinal dose it should have very minimal intoxication but should dissociate you from the pain you are feeling. I can send you a free sample, I don't have much but I'll give some to you so you can try it out for pain reasons.
Title: Re: What's the interest in 30mg Codeine Phosphate?
Post by: quinone on December 28, 2011, 11:54 pm
I think i'm gonna take Methylone tonight for a migraine i'm currently enduring.

Anyone have any experience with MDMA analogs and pain, specifically Methylone ('bk-MDMA')