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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: bustercraig on May 02, 2012, 06:51 am
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I just found out my favourite aussie vendor DopeBoyAus got busted :-[. Has anyone heard what happened and what are the chances of LE getting info out of his SR account?
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just curious how you found out he got busted?
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yeah same, where did you hear this? and if he was doing things properly all address info should have been destroyed after he used it.
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Unless he was keeping outside records about addresses etc there should be fook all on his system. There is no real reason why he should have kept addresses, I mean who the fuck keeps extra evidence for 5-O to find? "Yes Mr Gammon, you have caught me with a commercial quantity of a contraband substance. And now, because of this, as a well done present for being so clever, I'll make your life easier when it comes to convicting me by showing you who I have been flogging my commercial quantity of said contraband substance as well. Don't worry, the evidence is on me!"
Lol....unless you are a complete barnacle then you wouldn't do that shit.
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haha yeah and the feds must be so happy they made a bust you probably have long enough to clear up your place just in case :)
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haha yeah and the feds must be so happy they made a bust you probably have long enough to clear up your place just in case :)
Exactly. I wouldn't be too worried OP. Just clean house, sit tight and maybe watch some porn. Will alllll be over soon.
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Chances are they may not even be aware of his SR connection. They might just have arrested him because he was busted with a bunch of weed or something, or one of his contacts talked.
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OP, more info please.
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They have got their dealer... they dont care about people ordering on SR from him unless you were buying large quantities and dealing yourself. I have had alot of my dealers get raided IRL and found out the cops were watching when I was going to their house, but they never came after me or anyone else buying perso and I see this as the same.
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
ouch, hope it goes ok for him
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
ouch, hope it goes ok for him
Aren't Australia harsh as fuck when it comes to drug dealers?
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
ouch, hope it goes ok for him
Aren't Australia harsh as fuck when it comes to drug dealers?
Think they are harsh as fuck anything drug related. dealers have no chance.
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Australia = denied.
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too many touts and police informers bout everywhere
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
that really sucks.... I can't tell which situation is worst him being busted or me being forced to work cocaine for cartel connected people. I really wish I never got into deep with these Mexicans because now that I want out.... they aren't letting me because " it's in my best interested to train one of them before I stop selling coke" I was going to work with dopeboyaus also.... sounds weird
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Maybe he's had a previous conviction, cops could make an order from him check for fingerprints...
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that really sucks.... I can't tell which situation is worst him being busted or me being forced to work cocaine for cartel connected people. I really wish I never got into deep with these Mexicans because now that I want out.... they aren't letting me because " it's in my best interested to train one of them before I stop selling coke"
Oh holy fuck, good luck with that. Wouldn't want to be in your shoes.
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I think I have the link with details about the bust but im not going to post it on here for security reasons. Im pretty much 100% its about him tho. Dont think we should talk to much about it on here incase LE line it up with him on here..
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I think I have the link with details about the bust but im not going to post it on here for security reasons. Im pretty much 100% its about him tho. Dont think we should talk to much about it on here incase LE line it up with him on here..
would you mind pm'ing me the link? I am always looking for ways to increase my security.
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Well I found something about a drugs seize just by googling it. So I don't see much harm. Just change your search parameters to last 24 hours. If the article I'm reading is about him he is F-U-C-K FUCKED.
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that sucks, good luck brother. Sending good vibes your way
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
ouch, hope it goes ok for him
Aren't Australia harsh as fuck when it comes to drug dealers?
Think they are harsh as fuck anything drug related. dealers have no chance.
what the fuck cunt where do cunts get this misconception from
its not fucking singapore
maybe if you get busted with a substantial quantity of drugs you'll do the whole hotel motel holiday inn thing
but cunts in the local rag get caught cooking meth get 6 month suspended sentence.
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He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
ouch, hope it goes ok for him
Aren't Australia harsh as fuck when it comes to drug dealers?
Think they are harsh as fuck anything drug related. dealers have no chance.
what the fuck cunt where do cunts get this misconception from
its not fucking singapore
maybe if you get busted with a substantial quantity of drugs you'll do the whole hotel motel holiday inn thing
but cunts in the local rag get caught cooking meth get 6 month suspended sentence.
This. Australia is nowhere near as harsh as anywhere in Asia, the USA or the UK. It may be a bit more harsh than some European countries. But basically, although it is still technically illegal, things like possession don't get any sort of criminal conviction until you've been busted a dozen times and even dealers don't get a custodial sentence first time around unless they are really major players or do something to really fuck off the police and/or magistrate/judge.
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Im backing these last 2 up.. Aussie laws are relaxed as fuck, compared with lotta other countries.
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My bad guys :) sorry its just the news get over here would seem otherwise. But glad to hear the truth!
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Clearly I just watch too much border security lol. My bad.
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Clearly I just watch too much border security lol. My bad.
LOL! aye it does make out that aus is some sort of drug nazi.
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Clearly I just watch too much border security lol. My bad.
LOL! aye it does make out that aus is some sort of drug nazi.
Yeah + all the hype on here about shipping to Australia and the high prices of things there as well.
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High prices are only because we're so far away from everybody. Stuff that comes from Asia (like H) is not so expensive.
Where did I get bad karma from? As far as I know I'm always nice around here :-[
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Where did I get bad karma from? As far as I know I'm always nice around here :-[
Dont worry about it , i try to help as much as i can but whenever i get +1 its shortly followed by a -1 :)
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I think I have the link with details about the bust but im not going to post it on here for security reasons. Im pretty much 100% its about him tho. Dont think we should talk to much about it on here incase LE line it up with him on here..
So... Does anyone have this link ? Tried looking, but not entirely sure what search parameters to input! :)
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I just found out my favourite aussie vendor DopeBoyAus got busted :-[. Has anyone heard what happened and what are the chances of LE getting info out of his SR account?
provide a link to the arrest or it never happened.
I suggest we start banning people posting this bullshit without verifiable proof it actually happened, instead of suggesting autobans for karms.
Lets use our brains people... if you fucking idiots have any left over.
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Bro, he posted on his own SR profile that it happened.
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Bro, he posted on his own SR profile that it happened.
where is the link to it or the screen shot ?
I havent seen either ... all i seen was unsubstantiated claims, and this:
He had on his vendor page "closed for personal reasons (LE involved, not pretty)". It's a real shame that he got busted.
which proves nothing.
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Let's be straight here...while we may not have the hundreds of thousands of folk littering up the penal system for marijuana offenses like the US, drug enforcement in Australia is pretty harsh. We have sniffer dogs wandering the streets and railway stations in Sydney to cop unsuspecting tokkers, roadside drug testing buses at music festivals along with sniffer dogs wandering the lines outside.
The cops will gladly give you a kicking depending on how much you quote your legal rights and the magistrates dole out arbitrary sentences depending on how they feel and how good lunch was (both universal vagaries I admit). And just to confuse our overseas brothers, there are different laws and interpretations thereof in different states and territories as well as overarching federal laws.
So, yes watching "border protection" and other such propaganda is misleading but Australia is far from a free or even liberal country - we are unfortunately rapidly heading towards a police state.
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Let's be straight here...while we may not have the hundreds of thousands of folk littering up the penal system for marijuana offenses like the US, drug enforcement in Australia is pretty harsh. We have sniffer dogs wandering the streets and railway stations in Sydney to cop unsuspecting tokkers, roadside drug testing buses at music festivals along with sniffer dogs wandering the lines outside.
The cops will gladly give you a kicking depending on how much you quote your legal rights and the magistrates dole out arbitrary sentences depending on how they feel and how good lunch was (both universal vagaries I admit). And just to confuse our overseas brothers, there are different laws and interpretations thereof in different states and territories as well as overarching federal laws.
So, yes watching "border protection" and other such propaganda is misleading but Australia is far from a free or even liberal country - we are unfortunately rapidly heading towards a police state.
we all feel your pain brother no matter where we are located. The WORLD is turning into a police state for the benefit of elites.
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Let's be straight here...while we may not have the hundreds of thousands of folk littering up the penal system for marijuana offenses like the US, drug enforcement in Australia is pretty harsh. We have sniffer dogs wandering the streets and railway stations in Sydney to cop unsuspecting tokkers, roadside drug testing buses at music festivals along with sniffer dogs wandering the lines outside.
The cops will gladly give you a kicking depending on how much you quote your legal rights and the magistrates dole out arbitrary sentences depending on how they feel and how good lunch was (both universal vagaries I admit). And just to confuse our overseas brothers, there are different laws and interpretations thereof in different states and territories as well as overarching federal laws.
So, yes watching "border protection" and other such propaganda is misleading but Australia is far from a free or even liberal country - we are unfortunately rapidly heading towards a police state.
we all feel your pain brother no matter where we are located. The WORLD is turning into a police state for the benefit of elites.
So true. Our drugs laws are tightening up too. Here's a pic of a random drugs check with a sniffer dog that took place at a train station in Holland last month.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=6795740c65fcb953329ab11d8f2e92a8.jpg
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Let's be straight here...while we may not have the hundreds of thousands of folk littering up the penal system for marijuana offenses like the US, drug enforcement in Australia is pretty harsh. We have sniffer dogs wandering the streets and railway stations in Sydney to cop unsuspecting tokkers, roadside drug testing buses at music festivals along with sniffer dogs wandering the lines outside.
The cops will gladly give you a kicking depending on how much you quote your legal rights and the magistrates dole out arbitrary sentences depending on how they feel and how good lunch was (both universal vagaries I admit). And just to confuse our overseas brothers, there are different laws and interpretations thereof in different states and territories as well as overarching federal laws.
So, yes watching "border protection" and other such propaganda is misleading but Australia is far from a free or even liberal country - we are unfortunately rapidly heading towards a police state.
All that shit is nothing, you still get to sleep in your bed at night.
Depends what drugs and how they are affecting the community. Things like meth, you will do a decent lagging 5+ years for ounce or if in the kilo range you're gonna get double figures. On the other hand you could get charged for a bunch of ecstasy pills and a few sheets of lsd and walk away with a fine for few grand.
In australia forget about getting a Perry Mason lawyer and beating charges, all the judges, prosecutors, lawyers, etc decide virtually everything behind closed doors amongst them self.
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"All that shit is nothing, you still get to sleep in your bed at night."
hey man, you have no idea about my sleeping arrangements and they have no bearing on the WoDs. ::)
Anyway, with regard to the OP and DBA situation I'd be interested in more info, esp since SWIM (no seriously) bought some coke from him which was cut to ribbons. I'd also point out that he was advertising Methylone as "can be sold to your friends as MDMA", not particularly scrupulous advice...
all of which goes to show the importance of healthy karma.
Saying that NO ONE deserves the shafting they get for the public service of selling arbitrarily prohibited substances.
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Yes, please be careful folks - choose your sellers wisely - make sure you are not giving you private info and BTC to amateurs.
Aussielollie has been busted too, details from the "man who is taking over his account here" (sounds sketchy!):
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20236.msg227872#msg227872
If anyone has concerns or needs so free advice, please do not hesitate to contact us via SR messaging system.
Stay safe,
Matrix 8)
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Thanks for the heads up EtM and good advice.
I'll also add that DBA had a notice on his weed page saying he didn't bother with disguising his product since it wasn't that important (or words to that effect), which reinforces Matrix's message - make security a priority and if your vendor doesn't ...don't use them.
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Unless he was keeping outside records about addresses etc there should be fook all on his system. There is no real reason why he should have kept addresses, I mean who the fuck keeps extra evidence for 5-O to find? "Yes Mr Gammon, you have caught me with a commercial quantity of a contraband substance. And now, because of this, as a well done present for being so clever, I'll make your life easier when it comes to convicting me by showing you who I have been flogging my commercial quantity of said contraband substance as well. Don't worry, the evidence is on me!"
Lol....unless you are a complete barnacle then you wouldn't do that shit.
By agreeing to give a list of clients, you've admitted guilt/been convicted, so it's more for shortening the length of your term.
Thinking vendors NEVER keep addies is naive. Here is how the conversation would actually go:
"Yes Mr Gammon, you have all but convicted me of peddling an illicit substance. But I know a few dealers myself, who have purchased bulk from me in the past when their own supplier ran short. I can give you the names and addresses of these people, AND by employing my Silk Road account, assist you in arresting them. Perhaps I could message them about a special deal on bulk. Ah, but what would be in it for me?"
Now the occasional buyers' addies may not be kept, but the notion is far from impossible. After Doug the Dealer gets caught, he might give anything and everything that'll shorten his term. Who knows? A list of "what's" to "whom's" "when" may be of some worth.
Personally I wouldn't be offended if the popo drag me away one day, and I learn it's because a vendor provided a list of addresses to reduce charges or go to a nicer prison or something. It's part of the game, and nobody is forcing us to play.
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Unless he was keeping outside records about addresses etc there should be fook all on his system. There is no real reason why he should have kept addresses, I mean who the fuck keeps extra evidence for 5-O to find? "Yes Mr Gammon, you have caught me with a commercial quantity of a contraband substance. And now, because of this, as a well done present for being so clever, I'll make your life easier when it comes to convicting me by showing you who I have been flogging my commercial quantity of said contraband substance as well. Don't worry, the evidence is on me!"
Lol....unless you are a complete barnacle then you wouldn't do that shit.
By agreeing to give a list of clients, you've admitted guilt/been convicted, so it's more for shortening the length of your term.
Thinking vendors NEVER keep addies is naive. Here is how the conversation would actually go:
"Yes Mr Gammon, you have all but convicted me of peddling an illicit substance. But I know a few dealers myself, who have purchased bulk from me in the past when their own supplier ran short. I can give you the names and addresses of these people, AND by employing my Silk Road account, assist you in arresting them. Perhaps I could message them about a special deal on bulk. Ah, but what would be in it for me?"
Now the occasional buyers' addies may not be kept, but the notion is far from impossible. After Doug the Dealer gets caught, he might give anything and everything that'll shorten his term. Who knows? A list of "what's" to "whom's" "when" may be of some worth.
Personally I wouldn't be offended if the popo drag me away one day, and I learn it's because a vendor provided a list of addresses to reduce charges or go to a nicer prison or something. It's part of the game, and nobody is forcing us to play.
That is bullshit, police have no power over sentencing, that is in the hands of the courts. The coppers will fuck you the same whether you help them or not, probably more if you help them.
If I got dragged because of a dog, I would know who is he was when the cops handed over their evidence to my lawyer. The dog cunt that was the give up, I would make sure he got bashed everyday in mainstream prison, or he can hide in protection with rapist and pedos and get raped there. I would make it my mission that any dog gets their live destroyed and terrorised.
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Unless he was keeping outside records about addresses etc there should be fook all on his system. There is no real reason why he should have kept addresses, I mean who the fuck keeps extra evidence for 5-O to find? "Yes Mr Gammon, you have caught me with a commercial quantity of a contraband substance. And now, because of this, as a well done present for being so clever, I'll make your life easier when it comes to convicting me by showing you who I have been flogging my commercial quantity of said contraband substance as well. Don't worry, the evidence is on me!"
Lol....unless you are a complete barnacle then you wouldn't do that shit.
By agreeing to give a list of clients, you've admitted guilt/been convicted, so it's more for shortening the length of your term.
Thinking vendors NEVER keep addies is naive. Here is how the conversation would actually go:
"Yes Mr Gammon, you have all but convicted me of peddling an illicit substance. But I know a few dealers myself, who have purchased bulk from me in the past when their own supplier ran short. I can give you the names and addresses of these people, AND by employing my Silk Road account, assist you in arresting them. Perhaps I could message them about a special deal on bulk. Ah, but what would be in it for me?"
Now the occasional buyers' addies may not be kept, but the notion is far from impossible. After Doug the Dealer gets caught, he might give anything and everything that'll shorten his term. Who knows? A list of "what's" to "whom's" "when" may be of some worth.
Personally I wouldn't be offended if the popo drag me away one day, and I learn it's because a vendor provided a list of addresses to reduce charges or go to a nicer prison or something. It's part of the game, and nobody is forcing us to play.
That is bullshit, police have no power over sentencing, that is in the hands of the courts. The coppers will fuck you the same whether you help them or not, probably more if you help them.
If I got dragged because of a dog, I would know who is he was when the cops handed over their evidence to my lawyer. The dog cunt that was the give up, I would make sure he got bashed everyday in mainstream prison, or he can hide in protection with rapist and pedos and get raped there. I would make it my mission that any dog gets their live destroyed and terrorised.
Obviously you wouldn't divulge your secrets to the cops bringing you in. I assumed Mr. Gammon was a generic name for anyone in the system, so I used my version as an implied prosecutor. Only after things look grim days/weeks/months later, and you've come close to being convicted would you talk deals with the prosecutor.
And yeah, almost everyone else would scream and rage and vow to kill the snitch vendor too. I guess I accept that by sending my money and address to a stranger whose primary goals include making money and avoiding life sentences, I accept responsibility for anything that results from it. And if I don't do the necessary scrubbing after each transaction, if I grow lax in security procedures, then it's my own fault if I get ass-fucked.
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Anyone who thinks that Australia doesn't have decent sentencing laws should have a word to a guy I used to know, who did 18 months for a relatively low level amount of coke. They'd been watching him for a while (actually watching the much bigger guys above mainly) and he got raided. Timing was all that stopped it being a much bigger bust.
He didn't give anyone up (couldn't really, those above were apparently pretty smart/security conscious) and it saved him in prison. He's gone back home now and won't be visiting down under again.
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Unless he was keeping outside records about addresses etc there should be fook all on his system. There is no real reason why he should have kept addresses, I mean who the fuck keeps extra evidence for 5-O to find? "Yes Mr Gammon, you have caught me with a commercial quantity of a contraband substance. And now, because of this, as a well done present for being so clever, I'll make your life easier when it comes to convicting me by showing you who I have been flogging my commercial quantity of said contraband substance as well. Don't worry, the evidence is on me!"
Lol....unless you are a complete barnacle then you wouldn't do that shit.
By agreeing to give a list of clients, you've admitted guilt/been convicted, so it's more for shortening the length of your term.
Thinking vendors NEVER keep addies is naive. Here is how the conversation would actually go:
"Yes Mr Gammon, you have all but convicted me of peddling an illicit substance. But I know a few dealers myself, who have purchased bulk from me in the past when their own supplier ran short. I can give you the names and addresses of these people, AND by employing my Silk Road account, assist you in arresting them. Perhaps I could message them about a special deal on bulk. Ah, but what would be in it for me?"
Now the occasional buyers' addies may not be kept, but the notion is far from impossible. After Doug the Dealer gets caught, he might give anything and everything that'll shorten his term. Who knows? A list of "what's" to "whom's" "when" may be of some worth.
Personally I wouldn't be offended if the popo drag me away one day, and I learn it's because a vendor provided a list of addresses to reduce charges or go to a nicer prison or something. It's part of the game, and nobody is forcing us to play.
That is bullshit, police have no power over sentencing, that is in the hands of the courts. The coppers will fuck you the same whether you help them or not, probably more if you help them.
If I got dragged because of a dog, I would know who is he was when the cops handed over their evidence to my lawyer. The dog cunt that was the give up, I would make sure he got bashed everyday in mainstream prison, or he can hide in protection with rapist and pedos and get raped there. I would make it my mission that any dog gets their live destroyed and terrorised.
Obviously you wouldn't divulge your secrets to the cops bringing you in. I assumed Mr. Gammon was a generic name for anyone in the system, so I used my version as an implied prosecutor. Only after things look grim days/weeks/months later, and you've come close to being convicted would you talk deals with the prosecutor.
And yeah, almost everyone else would scream and rage and vow to kill the snitch vendor too. I guess I accept that by sending my money and address to a stranger whose primary goals include making money and avoiding life sentences, I accept responsibility for anything that results from it. And if I don't do the necessary scrubbing after each transaction, if I grow lax in security procedures, then it's my own fault if I get ass-fucked.
Its not how it works though, you dont get to make deals with the prosecutor, sentencing is 100% the judge or magistrates decision.
If you give police or courts information on other people and go to prison, everyone will know and you will get tormented by men who have no other life than prison. I can guarantee other prisoners will find out, co-accused will put their name out, a screw who dosnt like them will put their name out, guys cleaning screws office look at other prisoners on the computers, etc etc. Heaps of people think they are the clever one who can hide and keep a secret in prison but they all end up with the utter shit kicked out of them, just like pedos and rapist that try and hide in mainstream.
I am just saying being dog can only hurt you more than help you. Sure if you are busted, you can put your hand up and plead guilty, that might shave 1/3 off your sentence. But if you give up other people like a dog, you will not save yourself anytime and put your quality of life and well being in serious danger.
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Unless he was keeping outside records about addresses etc there should be fook all on his system. There is no real reason why he should have kept addresses, I mean who the fuck keeps extra evidence for 5-O to find? "Yes Mr Gammon, you have caught me with a commercial quantity of a contraband substance. And now, because of this, as a well done present for being so clever, I'll make your life easier when it comes to convicting me by showing you who I have been flogging my commercial quantity of said contraband substance as well. Don't worry, the evidence is on me!"
Lol....unless you are a complete barnacle then you wouldn't do that shit.
By agreeing to give a list of clients, you've admitted guilt/been convicted, so it's more for shortening the length of your term.
Thinking vendors NEVER keep addies is naive. Here is how the conversation would actually go:
"Yes Mr Gammon, you have all but convicted me of peddling an illicit substance. But I know a few dealers myself, who have purchased bulk from me in the past when their own supplier ran short. I can give you the names and addresses of these people, AND by employing my Silk Road account, assist you in arresting them. Perhaps I could message them about a special deal on bulk. Ah, but what would be in it for me?"
Now the occasional buyers' addies may not be kept, but the notion is far from impossible. After Doug the Dealer gets caught, he might give anything and everything that'll shorten his term. Who knows? A list of "what's" to "whom's" "when" may be of some worth.
Personally I wouldn't be offended if the popo drag me away one day, and I learn it's because a vendor provided a list of addresses to reduce charges or go to a nicer prison or something. It's part of the game, and nobody is forcing us to play.
That is bullshit, police have no power over sentencing, that is in the hands of the courts. The coppers will fuck you the same whether you help them or not, probably more if you help them.
If I got dragged because of a dog, I would know who is he was when the cops handed over their evidence to my lawyer. The dog cunt that was the give up, I would make sure he got bashed everyday in mainstream prison, or he can hide in protection with rapist and pedos and get raped there. I would make it my mission that any dog gets their live destroyed and terrorised.
Obviously you wouldn't divulge your secrets to the cops bringing you in. I assumed Mr. Gammon was a generic name for anyone in the system, so I used my version as an implied prosecutor. Only after things look grim days/weeks/months later, and you've come close to being convicted would you talk deals with the prosecutor.
And yeah, almost everyone else would scream and rage and vow to kill the snitch vendor too. I guess I accept that by sending my money and address to a stranger whose primary goals include making money and avoiding life sentences, I accept responsibility for anything that results from it. And if I don't do the necessary scrubbing after each transaction, if I grow lax in security procedures, then it's my own fault if I get ass-fucked.
aussielollie was busted and ourr addresses were comprimized but i never told the police anything, you can read my story in this thread
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20236.45
pls be careful guys
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just a Quik question, if u say "I didn't order anything" how is that incriminating?
"I didn't order anything from eBay" or " I didn't order anything from that state"
Or "I didn't order anything from the sex shop" I didn't order anything could mean anything, It's a pretty general statement.
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I presume DPA can't be in too much trouble if s/he was able to update their profile with info unless s/he left username/password details with a friend.
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a complete barnacle
:D
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I just found out my favourite aussie vendor DopeBoyAus got busted :-[. Has anyone heard what happened and what are the chances of LE getting info out of his SR account?
provide a link to the arrest or it never happened.
I suggest we start banning people posting this bullshit without verifiable proof it actually happened, instead of suggesting autobans for karms.
Lets use our brains people... if you fucking idiots have any left over.
You're the 'idiot'.
This came from the vendor himself.