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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: sunnydog on November 23, 2011, 12:25 am
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What I am reading here is that controlled delivery is the only way they can get you.
I see people suggesting a fake/misspelled name on their package, to claim ignorance.
but if it's your real name on it you can claim ignorance too by saying "I never opened it, weird seller, u mad?"
so fake/misspelled doesn't really matter does it?
what then is the real benefit of fake/misspelled name?
or am I wrong??
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sorry im making a bunch of topics, just trying to be thorough :)
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the name of the game is stealth. wrong/ misspelled names stand out. I know that the USPS is run by the government, so most of their employees are like Milton of Office Space, but even Milton can pick out which piece of mail stands out among the junk mail, magazines, bills, birthday cards, etc. the one with a name they have never seen before, or the one that was spelled wrong. Milton will deliver it of course, while mumbling about his stolen stapler, and he will probably deliver the next ones too. then one day, a package destined for your address smells funny....good but funny... and it has a misspelled name. it starts to make sense to Milton, and he tells his boss about the 4 or 5 other times he remembered delivering misspelled letters to you, and it goes on from there. now they know what to look for, and it is just a matter of time. and if you are using someone else's name, once you're caught, you also get to deal with the mail fraud charge, even if you skate on possession. mail fraud is a federal crime with real federal consequences. I think they made it a federal offense to be able to fuck people they couldn't touch otherwise. I'm sorry, what was the question again?
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I always suggest that newcomers read thru all the security and shipping threads. All these topics have been addressed time and time again. There is no assurance that will give comfort to the truly paranoid. And people have different fundamental beliefs, and whether you use a fake name, fake addy--your own, and plead innocence if caught--boil down to just opinions. There are no guidlines that we all agree on. Nobody can legitimately come on here, and say: do it this way, and you'll be safe.
Somewhere, anyone who stays on here, and conducts commerce, realizes it's a gamble, and the stakes are high. And acts accordingly. And finally, if we do find some super-secret foolproof way to avoid detection, then we'd be fools to post it on here, if we operate on the assumption this forum is read by LE also.
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...what then is the real benefit of fake/misspelled name?
None, *if* -- as I've written before¹ -- your letter carrier pays attention to those sorts of things. I know for a fact that mine does. So, for me, using a fake name would be equivalent to the shipper writing "NOTICE ME!!!" in red marker on the parcel.
It simply comes down to KYC (Know Your Carrier), in my experience. Your's may not give a hoot what the name is, or even if there is one. If you're unsure, you might run a test by sending something (legal) to a fake name at your address and see what, if anything, happens.
¹ dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5463.msg46560#msg46560
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This all depends on your situation. if you're out in the suburbs, you may want to use a real name to avoid suspicion. however, i'm in a dense urban area and an address that's had many occupants so fake name works better for me. The packages come and there's another layer of deniability if anything should go wrong. i've lost a package to law enforcement with my real name and it's a very, very uncomfortable feeling. luckily in my case it was only cash, so not necessarily illegal but I still don't like being inside some spook database.
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the name of the game is stealth. wrong/ misspelled names stand out. I know that the USPS is run by the government, so most of their employees are like Milton of Office Space, but even Milton can pick out which piece of mail stands out among the junk mail, magazines, bills, birthday cards, etc. the one with a name they have never seen before, or the one that was spelled wrong. Milton will deliver it of course, while mumbling about his stolen stapler, and he will probably deliver the next ones too. then one day, a package destined for your address smells funny....good but funny... and it has a misspelled name. it starts to make sense to Milton, and he tells his boss about the 4 or 5 other times he remembered delivering misspelled letters to you, and it goes on from there. now they know what to look for, and it is just a matter of time. and if you are using someone else's name, once you're caught, you also get to deal with the mail fraud charge, even if you skate on possession. mail fraud is a federal crime with real federal consequences. I think they made it a federal offense to be able to fuck people they couldn't touch otherwise. I'm sorry, what was the question again?
^This. Don't use a fake/misspelled name. It gives you zero plausible deniability and it sticks out like a sore thumb. I won't ship to a customer that uses an obviously fake or misspelled name
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Use your real damn name. If you're afraid to, have it sent to a loved one or roommate's real name and intercept it before they grab it thinking it's for them.
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Ask yourself this, would a jury of your peers convict you just because someone sent you drugs?
It depends on what kind of person you are and if they like you but I could convince a jury that I was good person and I honestly believe I have no risk of a conviction.
I would never admit too purchasing drugs not even if the police said they video tapped me. I dont care what they say I am going to deny it until they end and then I will take it too trial.
If you arnt street smart or hip too the legal system then its inevitable that the police will trick you. But if you know how police operate and how the legal system works your fine. It costs the state an average of $20,000 per trial. They will have to spend that money if they want too bring me up on charges.