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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: PlanetExpress on July 26, 2013, 07:36 am
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Hey, this is PlanetExpress. I'm a new vendor on SR so I created this thread for you all to review me. Hope to see lot of reviews up here and to do lots of business soon.
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Welcome to the road. I'd suggest you put a link to your vendor profile in your signature so people can see your products. Other than that, best of luck to you.
Edit: Please fuck off you scamming piece of shit.
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About to place an order with you. I'll post my feedback when it comes in =)
Welcome to SR!
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I admit I'm really intrigued by this vendor. The price of his stuff is insane. I'm not sure how he can sell it so low, considering that even before it was recently banned it was like $80/gram. Also, I've only ever seen it as a tan colored powder. But his is a fluffy white powder. That makes me a bit suspicious.
Despite those misgivings, I placed an order anyway. The price is so good, how can I not, right? His communication has been on point every time I had a question, so that's a good sign. Once I receive the product I will gladly come back and update this thread.
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That's a very awesome vendor name.
We're all quite jealous over here at NoQuarter.
Best of luck!
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I'm getting some high quality black tar heroin in soon. I'm sending out samples and priority goes to forum members with the best stats. Please msg me if you're interested.
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i too am curious to see how long these prices last.. any update as to when ur getting more bth? was kinda hoping youd have sent my order by now. but at the price i cant complain..
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Placed an order for a 200mg sample of your 6-apb. Had to do regular shipping as I didn't have enough BTC for priority. If it is good quality I will be back to order more. Cannot wait to try your 6-APB. Finding a good source outside Benzo Fury has been near impossible! Cheers.
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I too have just placed an order for 200mg of 6 apb. Excellent price for this product which almost makes me skeptical. I ordered priority shipping, so I suppose I will be one of this vendor's first customers. Cant wait to try it out. Will update with more info upon arrival.
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Finalized early for sample. God love 6-APB ^.^
GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE!
Arrived very quickly, roughly 2 days from marked "In Transit" Now that's what I like to hear.
I wasn't planning on doing it so soon, but I'm glad I did.
Cross-tolerance skewed my perception, but still at 100mg (that's enough for just about anyone. Seriously. Test it and see) I had one of the most amazing rolls I've had in months. Legs were appropriate, that 6-8 trip/roll that I know and love.
During the comedown, the visuals became more pronounced; more intricate. This is indicative of some good Peanut Butter, the likes of which I haven't seen since it was readily available from bulk suppliers on the clearnet.
Three 100mg dose given to three people, respectively, taking up the whole sample. Two long-time rollers and a newcomer. Long-time users expected tolerance to interfere, and it did. Newcomer could not stop blowing up even if he wanted to. Ended the night by talking time-dilation and listening to the Presidents ;)
And WHAT? This cat's offering it at $20/g??? I didn't think that would ever be possible again. Ladies and Gentlemen, kind androgynites, and everything in between, WE HAVE A KEEPER.
Many thanks for the sample. You'll definitely have my patronage and welcome to the Crew!
<3 Ali
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Finalized early for sample. God love 6-APB ^.^
GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE!
Arrived very quickly, roughly 2 days from marked "In Transit" Now that's what I like to hear.
I wasn't planning on doing it so soon, but I'm glad I did.
Cross-tolerance skewed my perception, but still at 100mg (that's enough for just about anyone. Seriously. Test it and see) I had one of the most amazing rolls I've had in months. Legs were appropriate, that 6-8 trip/roll that I know and love.
During the comedown, the visuals became more pronounced; more intricate. This is indicative of some good Peanut Butter, the likes of which I haven't seen since it was readily available from bulk suppliers on the clearnet.
Three 100mg dose given to three people, respectively, taking up the whole sample. Two long-time rollers and a newcomer. Long-time users expected tolerance to interfere, and it did. Newcomer could not stop blowing up even if he wanted to. Ended the night by talking time-dilation and listening to the Presidents ;)
And WHAT? This cat's offering it at $20/g??? I didn't think that would ever be possible again. Ladies and Gentlemen, kind androgynites, and everything in between, WE HAVE A KEEPER.
Many thanks for the sample. You'll definitely have my patronage and welcome to the Crew!
<3 Ali
This is amazing news! I was initially suspicious about the white powder and the extremely low prices. I cant wait for this vendor to stock up so I can order bulk!
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Just placed a sample order for .2 BTH. Cautiously optimistic, as I just got shafted by a vendor I trusted, and I'm looking for a new source. I'll check back in when the gear gets here!
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i love futurama
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i love futurama
+1 for this... Best show EVAR.
SO depressing that it's almost over (again) (for good). I remember how excited I was on the day I heard the news that it was coming back after it's cancellation on Fox. It was so amazing you could never have even asked or anticipated it; the way Firefly fans must have felt when they heard about Serenity (I only discovered the show through the movie), or how hard-core Veronica Mars fans must feel now (I watched the entire series and can barely muster enough enthusiasm for an "eh").
But watching new episodes of FUTURAMA is like a euphoria no drug could touch... childhood Christmas present level warm and fuzzy nostalgia style. Knowing that no more episodes are coming, and likely never will, is like running into the girl you wasted your entire High School experience fawning over, only now she's a strung out stripper working the place you decided to go for your bachelor party (okay maybe that metaphor was a bit too personal). Truth.
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ordered .1 bth, sample, plus something else, i look forward to getting my order, from this new vendor.
:)
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Looking foward to doing some business with you. I did not see any listing for the bth. Or are you sending out samples for review? If that 's the case I can test then write an honest and hopefuly interesting post in the forum. I see you have 6-apb , gonna order some tomorrow. Good luck on SR.
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I finally got around to trying 100 mgs of planetexpress's 6-apb and oh my fucking god hahaha.
I almost feel like this substance shouldnt be called a research chemical honestly. it has a sacred "magic" aspect to it that is extremely similar to the true mdxx substances.
I took it with my girl yesterday(100 mgs each, both experienced with mdma and mda) and within 30-40 minutes we both started feeling light effects. within 1 hour we were both laid out, to the point to where the thought of moving was just a real fucking bummer hahaha. she was laying her head on the table and i was sprawled out in my seat.
at that point we had a few interesting conversations, and a few really cool ideas popped up in my head while talking. the most memorable one was the idea that i could build a "neighborhood" in a forest, without chopping down any trees and ridding it of all life. Imagine if humans built houses AROUND the environment instead of just mowing it over. work with mother nature harmoniously instead of just killing it all so we can build some useless shit and put it there......
anyways...... ;D
slowly but surely the outside world started taking on a sort of fairy-land appearance just like my FIRST experience with mdma. everything was getting more vivid in color and things began to trace lightly.
she told me that her visuals were very intense whether her eyes were open or shut, and i definitely had some rainbow fishscale patterns on the back of my eyelids at somepoints, even though i took lsd 6 days ago and had one of the most visual trips ive ever had hahaha.
once we finally got over that main peak, we started to feel at one with the universe. the main come up is definitely a bit intense but once you level out you feel AMAZING. my limbs felt so loose and wobbly. my body felt like it weighed a ton and my temperature fluxuated a bit at some points during the experience. sometimes i would feel like i was wrapped in a blanket. other times i would be getting goosebumps because of a breeze hitting my skin.
music was awesome as expected, and sex was very interesting as well. (a good interesting, we tried out a few new things ;) )
the main "in your face" euphoria started dying down at about 7 hours, but i was still left with plenty of visual movement and a great body high at that point. the only real bummer about the experience happened shortly after. I started to get some head pressure that was pretty unpleasant. i took an ibuprofen and me and my girl went to her room and had sex again, which completely healed the headache and had me feeling high as fuck again once i had an orgasm.
we hit the lights shortly after and went to bed shortly after (at this point its been around 11 hours or so since we took it.)
we woke up this morning cuddled up with eachother and we both still felt great. cuddling was so fucking comforting and nice! we had sex again in the morning and it was still "enhanced" to an extent, but obviously not as intense as it was the night before.
all in all, I would feel like a fucking retard if i didn't get a shit ton more of this 6-apb... seriously that experience for that price.... it just doesnt happen folks.
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Just received my parcel (6-APB) and hope to be able to test it out soon.
Everything about this seller is 5/5 in my opinion. Price was amazing, product looks amazing, stealth is amazing, and shipping was lighting fast.
I'll update both on the forums and on the sellers page when I try the product.
My only question is, "WHERE CAN I FIND MORE". Please please please stock up Planet Express! I can't wait to buy in bulk. I'm blown away by this vendor and I think you will be too! I took the plunge with a new vendor and I'm glad I did. Order in confidence fellas.
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My only question is, "WHERE CAN I FIND MORE". Please please please stock up Planet Express! I can't wait to buy in bulk. I'm blown away by this vendor and I think you will be too! I took the plunge with a new vendor and I'm glad I did. Order in confidence fellas.
i already messaged him about higher quantities, he said he will be stocking up in a week or so ;)
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Received my 200mg 6apb. Actually came out to 300mg! Thanks PE! We split the 300mg into two 150mg doses and took them. The roll felt very good and slight visuals became pronounced further into the trip. The quality of PE's 6-apb far exceeds others I have seen on the road, especially for the price!! Looks like an affordable vendor of upper grade 6-apb has appeared! Absolutely great product for the price, but not as potent as the old Benzo Fury tabs.
All in all, definitely worth the price and will give a great roll at 150mg in my experience.
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Hey thanks for all of the amazing reviews you guys, its been a crazy past few weeks! Keep 'em coming and much love to you all!
Right now we are lowering the price of adderall to drum up some business, so check it out.
We should be stocking up with not only lots more 6-apb, but an entire arsenal of drugs... uppers, downers, laughers, screamers, etc. all at extremely low prices. So look out for that type of stuff soon.
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PlanetExpress is a pretty great vendor. Fast and discrete shipping, great customer support.
I got some really dank 6-APB (not the fake stuff that was going around a couple of years back). It was highly pure and gave a nice roll.
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i thoroughly enjoyed my transaction with PE. everything from customer service, shipping, stealth packaging, and the product itself were top notch.
I dosed 3 different times over the course of the last two weeks - insufflation, swallowing, and plugging. Of all of those, swallowing worked out the best. Snorting doesn't burn that bad, but it tastes beyond terrible on the drip. So I don't recommend that method.
I did not have a 6-8 hour roll the other posters, but that may have been because I was drunk each time I dosed. Surely that would diminish the effects somewhat.
PE will def be getting another order when I need to re-up.
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I was a bit worried about PlanetExpress since his product was the cheapest available. I have to say that my expectations and what happened were different. The transaction was quick, clean and I was even contacted personally about updates on my item shipping. Very personable and quick acting when orders come in. Order arrived in a fast manner and came in a very stylish little baggy with art patterns on it. That was a very nice touch. and I compared the product to the product being sold by the "bestseller" in "Prescriptions>Stimulants" for addy. I have to say I was not disappointed with the quality differences. If no one told me - I probably wouldn't have noticed the difference between the experience on his product and the experiences I had from this drug, buying from top sellers.
The product wasn't vacuum sealed but I didn't feel this degraded the quality of the item whatsoever.
PlanetExpress definitely deserves good credit reviews - Or at least, I was satisfied with my experience anyway. I can't speak for every other customer.
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good luck with the biz! :) going to check out your link now :)
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he's back!!!
loading up coins right now to get more 6-apb =)
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PE,
any plans on pressing some of this up? 100mg or so sounds about right from the reviews.
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Hey thanks for the input d0z3r. I will definitely consider this in the coming weeks or months, but for now I have a lot on my plate. If more people start asking I probably will.
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This guy is a baller! Planning on ordering shortly, but super quick replies to messages!
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Ordered a .1 BTH sample 7 days ago, and still nothing in my mailbox. It was free though, and sent Priority. USPS fucked the package up.
Thanks USPS!! >:|
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Noticed some LSD listings are up $220 for the half sheet and $375 for the sheet :o very impressive prices assuming it is indeed LSD.
Too bad there aren't listings of lower quantity so I can test and verify the product as LSD but I think I will try out the half sheet :)
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Anyone order his Roxi's?
Legit?
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Subbed, hope to find out soon about the quality of that acid because those are some fantastic prices.
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Subbed, hope to find out soon about the quality of that acid because those are some fantastic prices.
They are very good!
I wish someone could come in & give us some insight.
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I ordered a few valium from PlanetExpress on a Friday, regular first class shipping.
Honestly I really didnt expect anything until the end of the following week.
It showed up on Tuesday, which was awesome, and it was legit valium.
Great transaction all around, I did have some communication with him/her and they were polite and responsive..
All in all a solid experience.
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Good Luck man. Will check out your stuff as soon as SR comes back on!!!
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Subbed, hope to find out soon about the quality of that acid because those are some fantastic prices.
They are very good!
I wish someone could come in & give us some insight.
well, his 6-apb was/is listed at a steal of a price and it was legit.
he claims that his hits are unperfed white, and they are tasteless. honestly planet is looking like he is going to rule the lsd scene on the road hahaha.
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Anyone have any info on the LSD?
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OK...so lets use our brains....He has the best prices on SR for acid......some say "to good to be true" ...and he has offered no samples...I would be curious where he got the GC/MS test done in the USA..and why don't he post the results.? he has no listings lower than 50 so even if you dont like them and IF you got a refund your out 50%
good luck to those who give it a try...let us know...I will sit back and wait. 8)
You never know, i think we could see acid prices drop on bulk as more and more sellers come around...But for the past year I can say with much certainty that new vendors would offer 5=10 strips or offer 1-2 hit samples for free to check out the product to get his name out ........We all benefit from this and the scamms have been far and few lately...SO Don't let your guard down.
I get a kick out of some of these posters saying...Man! great prices, going to take a chance...yeah i have 250 laying around to throw out the window... ;D
anyway just be careful..
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OK...so lets use our brains....He has the best prices on SR for acid......some say "to good to be true" ...and he has offered no samples...I would be curious where he got the GC/MS test done in the USA..and why don't he post the results.? he has no listings lower than 50 so even if you dont like them and IF you got a refund your out 50%
good luck to those who give it a try...let us know...I will sit back and wait. 8)
You never know, i think we could see acid prices drop on bulk as more and more sellers come around...But for the past year I can say with much certainty that new vendors would offer 5=10 strips or offer 1-2 hit samples for free to check out the product to get his name out ........We all benefit from this and the scamms have been far and few lately...SO Don't let your guard down.
I get a kick out of some of these posters saying...Man! great prices, going to take a chance...yeah i have 250 laying around to throw out the window... ;D
anyway just be careful..
Not only that, but I can't help but be extremely unimpressed by the seller's outright hostility towards their customer base. In particular, you are REQUIRED to leave 5/5 feedback, even if the product turns out to be absolute garbage. It is laughable that the seller is talking about refusing to be held hostage by bad reviews, while at the same time holding customers hostage in the same way by threatening them with a universal blacklisting. That is no way to run a business.
Maybe the stuff is good, who knows. But I'd rather stick to a reputable vendor (who has earned the Avengers' stamp of approval) where I KNOW the product will be good, and where I don't feel like I'm being threatened when I buy from them. Would any of you go to a restaurant where the owner said at the end of the meal "you got food, right? Didn't like it? Too bad, if you don't leave us a 5-star Yelp review, you'll never get served at a restaurant in this town again!"
Sorry, but that's a bit crazy for my taste. I'll pay a few extra bucks for now, might consider a purchase here if the seller decides to stop treating customers so poorly.
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Great prices, I think may have to try an order soon.
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Great prices, I think may have to try an order soon.
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Sorry, but that's a bit crazy for my taste. I'll pay a few extra bucks for now, might consider a purchase here if the seller decides to stop treating customers so poorly.
Feel free lol.
I can't believe you consider that being treated poorly. my first purchase with him definitely deserved a 5/5 or better.
Maybe he just knows how detrimental it can be when one poor fuck leaves shitty feedback for some stupid reason. (like waiting an extra day for shipping than they think they should..)
Also, what is the point of coming to his forum and saying you doubt his products? His shit is legit and it would really bum me out if someone came onto my forum with a questioning attitude without having any experience with him.
Nothing wrong with waiting for some reviews but I'll say the same thing i said in the avenger thread, please suspend your paranoia until after you have dealt with this vendor.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my experience with him so far. ::)
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Sorry, but that's a bit crazy for my taste. I'll pay a few extra bucks for now, might consider a purchase here if the seller decides to stop treating customers so poorly.
Feel free lol.
I can't believe you consider that being treated poorly. my first purchase with him definitely deserved a 5/5 or better.
Maybe he just knows how detrimental it can be when one poor fuck leaves shitty feedback for some stupid reason. (like waiting an extra day for shipping than they think they should..)
Also, what is the point of coming to his forum and saying you doubt his products? His shit is legit and it would really bum me out if someone came onto my forum with a questioning attitude without having any experience with him.
Nothing wrong with waiting for some reviews but I'll say the same thing i said in the avenger thread, please suspend your paranoia until after you have dealt with this vendor.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my experience with him so far. ::)
You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted." I don't see how that is NOT being treated poorly. If the seller is confident in the product, that kind of threat is not necessary. And I have ordered from sellers with the occasional bad feedback if the weight of feedback (and other research on the seller) suggests that anything negative is either an aberration or someone with an axe to grind. But by preventing anything other than perfect feedback, I have NO way of telling whether people are ACTUALLY happy, or if they just don't want to deal with the seller's threats and see it as not worth it to leave negative feedback.
If the seller doesn't trust me to leave honest feedback, why on earth should I trust the seller to send me decent product? It's a two-way street, and quite simply, this is poor customer service and bad business practice.
I'm happy your transaction went well. But that doesn't change the fact that the terms of sale are unconscionable. And if I never voice that opinion, the seller will not know that these absurd policies are potentially costing sales.
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You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted."
I understand the concern with getting blacklisted but really you think the rest of the vendors on sr are going to avoid you because of you getting blacklisted for not leaving perfect feedback? I doubt that will happen but regardless I am willing to bet that his lsd IS lsd. just like his 6-apb IS 6-apb :P
personally, Planet coming onto the road is a dream come true for me. most of his products are extremely appealing to me and communication with him has been excellent!
maybe you ought to message him and talk to him yourself, as he is a very reasonable guy.
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You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted."
I understand the concern with getting blacklisted but really you think the rest of the vendors on sr are going to avoid you because of you getting blacklisted for not leaving perfect feedback? I doubt that will happen but regardless I am willing to bet that his lsd IS lsd. just like his 6-apb IS 6-apb :P
personally, Planet coming onto the road is a dream come true for me. most of his products are extremely appealing to me and communication with him has been excellent!
maybe you ought to message him and talk to him yourself, as he is a very reasonable guy.
I could ask the same question though: does he really think that buyers would avoid him because of one or two negative feedback posts if the rest are overwhelmingly positive? I know I am not that stupid in my decision-making. For me, distrust breeds distrust, and I can't give him my business so long as I'm essentially being blackmailed.
I hope his stuff is legit, and I'm glad he's found customers whose lives he is improving. If he removes that one asinine rule, I'd gladly give him a shot. We do need more domestic vendors with stock.
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I ordered a half sheet and if it is legit acid i will not be posting back for feedback if its real... because those prices are so amazing I will want to order all the LSD ordered the half sheet tonight hope it ships soon. And you guys know the day I get it ill be dropping those bitches! gotta put some trust in people, even if i get screwed its 200 dollars big deal....
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I'm in the same boat, getting 'feels too good to be true' vibes but I've bought sub-$4 acid on the road that ended up being legit (koi hoffmans from HollandOnline) before, and this vendor thusfar has a good reputation.
Ordered a half sheet, and if it gets here by Friday I'll have a few posted on Sunday. Otherwise I won't get around to it for at least two weeks.
Oh, and regarding the '5/5 review regardless of product' issue: If you message the vendor with your issue with product quality and they flat out refuse to negotiate, would you want to buy from them again anyway? Blacklist doesn't matter if it's mutual. It's an unenforceable policy, basically. I get the feeling it won't come down to that though, based on the skepticism of his 6-APB and how it turned out to be solid.
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I just sent a message. Look forward to hearing back from this vendor - couldn't be more excited to see this guy on the road. I foresee a good business relationship if all goes well.
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You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted."
I understand the concern with getting blacklisted but really you think the rest of the vendors on sr are going to avoid you because of you getting blacklisted for not leaving perfect feedback? I doubt that will happen but regardless I am willing to bet that his lsd IS lsd. just like his 6-apb IS 6-apb :P
personally, Planet coming onto the road is a dream come true for me. most of his products are extremely appealing to me and communication with him has been excellent!
maybe you ought to message him and talk to him yourself, as he is a very reasonable guy.
I could ask the same question though: does he really think that buyers would avoid him because of one or two negative feedback posts if the rest are overwhelmingly positive? I know I am not that stupid in my decision-making. For me, distrust breeds distrust, and I can't give him my business so long as I'm essentially being blackmailed.
I hope his stuff is legit, and I'm glad he's found customers whose lives he is improving. If he removes that one asinine rule, I'd gladly give him a shot. We do need more domestic vendors with stock.
To answer your question: yes, buyers WOULD avoid him due to one or two negative feedback posts. It's early in the game for him and he's building a reputation which will, in large part, determine his future success on the road. I myself have steered clear of many a vendor due to uncertainty I felt from seeing negative feedback. This seems like common sense.
And he is not the only vendor with this stipulation written into their terms; in fact, in my experience, plenty of vendors on the road require a 5/5 regardless of how buyers feel about the quality of the product. Drugs affect each person differently. There's virtually no guarantee that ANY particular substance will have any given effect across the board with each individual. Therefore, if the vendor sends you an illegal substance in the mail and you receive it as promised, the vendor has fulfilled their end of the deal. You can't bitch about how good or bad it was; just use your experience to determine whether you'll give the vendor your business again. If their drugs don't work on you, then don't buy from them again. I have plenty of experience in distribution of goods and I know that one man's A+ top-shelf shit is another man's garbage.
Doesn't seem at all asinine to me, although I'd slightly alter the wording. I would have put something in my terms like: 'If you have any issues with quality or potency of my products, please see me before leaving less than a 5 so I can work to resolve the issue and make you a happy customer.' In the end, if I tried to resolve things and the customer still left less than a 5 rating, I'd never work with them again. People who are willing to damage your business are too dangerous to risk dealing with.
(And c'mon dude, 'blackmailing' you? Really? Blackmail doesn't occur when one person willingly buys from another, which you are not going to do in this case anyway, so it still doesn't occur. Kinda hyperbolic to accuse PE of blackmail just cuz you don't agree with the terms, lol ;D)
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You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted."
I understand the concern with getting blacklisted but really you think the rest of the vendors on sr are going to avoid you because of you getting blacklisted for not leaving perfect feedback? I doubt that will happen but regardless I am willing to bet that his lsd IS lsd. just like his 6-apb IS 6-apb :P
personally, Planet coming onto the road is a dream come true for me. most of his products are extremely appealing to me and communication with him has been excellent!
maybe you ought to message him and talk to him yourself, as he is a very reasonable guy.
I could ask the same question though: does he really think that buyers would avoid him because of one or two negative feedback posts if the rest are overwhelmingly positive? I know I am not that stupid in my decision-making. For me, distrust breeds distrust, and I can't give him my business so long as I'm essentially being blackmailed.
I hope his stuff is legit, and I'm glad he's found customers whose lives he is improving. If he removes that one asinine rule, I'd gladly give him a shot. We do need more domestic vendors with stock.
To answer your question: yes, buyers WOULD avoid him due to one or two negative feedback posts. It's early in the game for him and he's building a reputation which will, in large part, determine his future success on the road. I myself have steered clear of many a vendor due to uncertainty I felt from seeing negative feedback. This seems like common sense.
And he is not the only vendor with this stipulation written into their terms; in fact, in my experience, plenty of vendors on the road require a 5/5 regardless of how buyers feel about the quality of the product. Drugs affect each person differently. There's virtually no guarantee that ANY particular substance will have any given effect across the board with each individual. Therefore, if the vendor sends you an illegal substance in the mail and you receive it as promised, the vendor has fulfilled their end of the deal. You can't bitch about how good or bad it was; just use your experience to determine whether you'll give the vendor your business again. If their drugs don't work on you, then don't buy from them again. I have plenty of experience in distribution of goods and I know that one man's A+ top-shelf shit is another man's garbage.
Doesn't seem at all asinine to me, although I'd slightly alter the wording. I would have put something in my terms like: 'If you have any issues with quality or potency of my products, please see me before leaving less than a 5 so I can work to resolve the issue and make you a happy customer.' In the end, if I tried to resolve things and the customer still left less than a 5 rating, I'd never work with them again. People who are willing to damage your business are too dangerous to risk dealing with.
(And c'mon dude, 'blackmailing' you? Really? Blackmail doesn't occur when one person willingly buys from another, which you are not going to do in this case anyway, so it still doesn't occur. Kinda hyperbolic to accuse PE of blackmail just cuz you don't agree with the terms, lol ;D)
Then what on earth is the point of the feedback system? I could set up an account with the same rule, send out absolute bunk, and while I may not get repeat customers, I'll be able to scam everyone once because the rule says you aren't allowed to leave any negative feedback about product quality.
Sorry, but that is not a workable or sane system. Things affect everyone differently, but if there are overwhelming reviews one way or the other, it's a pretty damn good hint as to whether you're getting quality or not. If the buyer has no right to bitch about quantity, then the seller has no right to bitch about feedback. Your proposal would make the feedback system useless and dishonest, and that is not the way I would ever do business.
And I'm not sure where you aren't understanding the blackmail thing. The blackmail occurs once you've purchased, and then if you don't leave perfect feedback, the seller has threatened to do his best to make sure nobody else will do business with you either. What's so difficult to understand about that?
Feel free to order under this draconian system all you want, it's not my money or my reputation. But I think this policy is every bit as damaging to the entire community as the scamming buyers. I won't support it.
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Hey guys, don't worry I would NEVER attempt to blacklist you for something trivial or jump to conclusions without looking at the evidence. If it is apparent that you are trying to take advantage, SR support agrees with me, and we can't reconcile our differences then yes, the blacklist is the last resort for me. I put that disclaimer on my profile mainly because there are a lot of new buyers who don't really understand the weight that their feedback carries (also a few scammers out there too) and I wanted to spell everything out from the start.
That being said, I don't mind honesty in my feedback, I just strive for a 100% rating (so far, so good). You really do have a good number of options for recourse on SR if a vendor is trying to sell you bunk product. I couldn't very well maintain a good reputation selling bunk products or for blacklisting people unfairly. No matter what the policy on my vendor profile says, SR support has the last word and in the end people can post whatever feedback or forum reviews they wanted and I don't have the power to change it. aoeniacqc is correct, it is really not in my power to force people to leave a 5/5 rating and so it is an unenforceable policy when push comes to shove. As I mentioned previously, this disclaimer was really meant to educate newbies and (hopefully) scare off a few scammers. Sorry if my profile rubbed anybody the wrong way, I just want you all to know that I am a very reasonable person and that I will always do everything in my power to talk it out and work towards a compromise if there is ever an issue with an order that I shipped and I think a few people here will vouch for that already.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who has ordered from me and made this business possible. Hope to do lots of business with you all.
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Hey guys, don't worry I would NEVER attempt to blacklist you for something trivial or jump to conclusions without looking at the evidence. If it is apparent that you are trying to take advantage, SR support agrees with me, and we can't reconcile our differences then yes, the blacklist is the last resort for me. I put that disclaimer on my profile mainly because there are a lot of new buyers who don't really understand the weight that their feedback carries (also a few scammers out there too) and I wanted to spell everything out from the start.
That being said, I don't mind honesty in my feedback, I just strive for a 100% rating (so far, so good). You really do have a good number of options for recourse on SR if a vendor is trying to sell you bunk product. I couldn't very well maintain a good reputation selling bunk products or for blacklisting people unfairly. No matter what the policy on my vendor profile says, SR support has the last word and in the end people can post whatever feedback or forum reviews they wanted and I don't have the power to change it.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who has ordered from me and made this business possible. Hope to do lots of business with you all.
Thanks for the clarification, FWIW you've been great so far. I hope mine gets processed today so I put others to rest if the product is good.
Have you personally tested it via Ehrlich or some other chem test?
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Hey guys, don't worry I would NEVER attempt to blacklist you for something trivial or jump to conclusions without looking at the evidence. If it is apparent that you are trying to take advantage, SR support agrees with me, and we can't reconcile our differences then yes, the blacklist is the last resort for me. I put that disclaimer on my profile mainly because there are a lot of new buyers who don't really understand the weight that their feedback carries (also a few scammers out there too) and I wanted to spell everything out from the start.
That being said, I don't mind honesty in my feedback, I just strive for a 100% rating (so far, so good). You really do have a good number of options for recourse on SR if a vendor is trying to sell you bunk product. I couldn't very well maintain a good reputation selling bunk products or for blacklisting people unfairly. No matter what the policy on my vendor profile says, SR support has the last word and in the end people can post whatever feedback or forum reviews they wanted and I don't have the power to change it. aoeniacqc is correct, it is really not in my power to force people to leave a 5/5 rating and so it is an unenforceable policy when push comes to shove. As I mentioned previously, this disclaimer was really meant to educate newbies and (hopefully) scare off a few scammers. Sorry if my profile rubbed anybody the wrong way, I just want you all to know that I am a very reasonable person and that I will always do everything in my power to talk it out and work towards a compromise if there is ever an issue with an order that I shipped and I think a few people here will vouch for that already.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who has ordered from me and made this business possible. Hope to do lots of business with you all.
Thanks for chiming in with clarification here, it certainly helps. I'm interested to hear wavelength's report on the LSD.
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"Then what on earth is the point of the feedback system? I could set up an account with the same rule, send out absolute bunk, and while I may not get repeat customers, I'll be able to scam everyone once because the rule says you aren't allowed to leave any negative feedback about product quality."
The point of the feedback system is to enable honest, good vendors to build a reputation which will support their businesses by enticing new customers to purchase from them as well as retaining current customers. It's a very fair and equitable system so long as buyers understand what qualifies as a 5 rating: you get your product, with decent stealth packaging, in a reasonable amount of time, and it is at least approximately what the vendor said it would be. Again - the strength or potency of the product is too subjective to use as a basis for rating the vendors overall business operation. Buyers try to scam vendors this way, so it's reasonable to leave that criterion out of the overall rating (though it's nice when people comment on the quality/potency for the benefit of other buyers.
You won't be able to scam everyone once, you'll be able to scam a few people before you become widely known as a scammer. So you put down $500 to become a vendor, run a quick scam that ruins your reputation immediately, and bow out having maybe made a tiny profit? Seems like an unlikely scenario. It would be much easier and much more feasible to be an honest vendor. If a vendor is scamming people as you've described, the resolution center will always favor the buyer and you won't ultimately end up getting screwed out of any money.
You seem to be getting more and more entrenched in this position of ridiculous paranoia over what is essentially a non-issue. We now live in a time when you can order virtually any substance you want and receive it relatively quickly through the mail. All the vendors ask is that you don't screw up their rating as long as they are fulfilling their end of the agreement. You started by saying you find it 'a bit suspicious' that vendors would enact such a policy, and have now escalated it to 'draconian.' Your hyperbole knows no bounds. If you think their is anything 'draconian' about anything on SR, or that anyone is 'blackmailing' you due to having a fairly standard policy, please do yourself a favor and look up the actual definitions of those words.
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Going to place an order for a g of that cocaine right now. Not in a hurry so I'm having it shipped snail mail. I'll report here when I receive. :)
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Going to place an order for a g of that cocaine right now. Not in a hurry so I'm having it shipped snail mail. I'll report here when I receive. :)
sbd, wouldn't mind hearing how that goes :)
neone else tried PlanetExpress C ?
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I'm in the same boat, getting 'feels too good to be true' vibes but I've bought sub-$4 acid on the road that ended up being legit (koi hoffmans from HollandOnline) before, and this vendor thusfar has a good reputation.
Ordered a half sheet, and if it gets here by Friday I'll have a few posted on Sunday. Otherwise I won't get around to it for at least two weeks.
Oh, and regarding the '5/5 review regardless of product' issue: If you message the vendor with your issue with product quality and they flat out refuse to negotiate, would you want to buy from them again anyway? Blacklist doesn't matter if it's mutual. It's an unenforceable policy, basically. I get the feeling it won't come down to that though, based on the skepticism of his 6-APB and how it turned out to be solid.
I agree but the fact that Planet Express (I HAD to check them out, Futurama is the best show on TV!) would put a requirement to leave 5/5 regardless of any issues does not reflect well on the vendor. Yes it is unenforceable; yes the vendor may ban you; but it immediately made me leery of doing business with a vendor who has such a policy. I have found vendors to often be much different than what they say about themselves on their profile. Most say "PM me with any issues and we'll work it out" I did that with one vendor (bad quality product) and they called me stupid and dishonest. I didn't try to extort, etc. I don't ask for refunds, reships, etc EVER. That isn't a way to get the buyer to deal with you again, be polite and reasonable and I will do buy from you again.
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Just purchased 50 hits of the LSD, will post back results.
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Just bought some roxies off this vender, will report back soon with update!
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Just purchased 50 hits of the LSD, will post back results.
Account registered today with his first message to post on this thread.... damn now im suspicious
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'ThisSHITScrazyman' saving the world one suspicion at a fucking time. You solved the mystery man, cuz it's impossible for people to lurk for awhile and then create an account. To anyone who is still interested I will def be back with actual results.
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Hey guys, I sent planet some of my extra coins in exchange for a couple of hits of his lsd.
I owe another vendor a trip report on his ayahuasca soon but once I feel my tolerance is down I will be trying planets lsd and most likely leaving an in-depth review/report.
Sit tight!
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'ThisSHITScrazyman' saving the world one suspicion at a fucking time. You solved the mystery man, cuz it's impossible for people to lurk for awhile and then create an account. To anyone who is still interested I will def be back with actual results.
lol get angry
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I will now also be posting a trip report..... to make sure were on the same page :)\
And honestly I put trust in people so i'm thinking i wont be dissapointed
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Well, I bit the bullet, took my chances and ordered Ketamine, BTH and 6-APB from Planet Express.
I've never done any of these drugs in the past.
ADVENTURETIME.
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Bumping on this to watch vendor. If he ends up being legit I'll be buying loads of L off him
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Well, I bit the bullet, took my chances and ordered Ketamine, BTH and 6-APB from Planet Express.
I've never done any of these drugs in the past.
ADVENTURETIME.
lol oh my god I might just put this in my sig...
why would you buy three of the craziest drugs if you've never done any of them? xD
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just test the products, genuine stuff.
fast shipping
customer oriented service
vender kindly and honestly answer all my questions in a timely manner.
Quality products
thx for the 3xtra. would lide do business with planetexpress agai
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Going to place an order for a g of that cocaine right now. Not in a hurry so I'm having it shipped snail mail. I'll report here when I receive. :)
sbd, wouldn't mind hearing how that goes :)
neone else tried PlanetExpress C ?
Ordered a ball to sample, price was too good to deny....ordered yesterday, processing but ordered with the priority ship in hopes of seeing this early next week. There will be an in depth review and comparison to other C vendor's used in recent past
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I, too, ordered roxies off of this seller but only 2 days ago. Order still says processing. I am a fairly new user with only a few transactions under my belt and I asked PE if and how he tested them and he said he has access to GS/MS. I was kind of weary too and I hope he takes no offense to this but I still am. That's probably just because I don't have much experience on here and am usually kind of nervous when I order anything off of here...
Regardless, I will post an update when product gets here and when I have the gumption to try it lol
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would love to hear about some LSD reviews.
the prices are the lowest.
ever.
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Ordered Roxy's on Monday night, still processing yet today. I know his profile said they will either ship out wednesday (yesterday) or thursday (today) so still waiting for the in-transit. I wanted to give a heads up to rest of the buyers that got roxys and are waiting too, his prices are fair on everything on the road so I hope all goes well, and I'll be picking up some C next.
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Ordered Roxy's on Monday night, still processing yet today. I know his profile said they will either ship out wednesday (yesterday) or thursday (today) so still waiting for the in-transit. I wanted to give a heads up to rest of the buyers that got roxys and are waiting too, his prices are fair on everything on the road so I hope all goes well, and I'll be picking up some C next.
Pretty much. Ordered mine on tuesday but still says "in-processing"... Please update when you get your package and try roxi's... Thank you.
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These LSD prices seem too good to be true... but maybe just good enough. I'm ordering 25 blotters from someone tonight but still deciding if it'll be PlanetExpress or Alaska.
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Sorry, but that's a bit crazy for my taste. I'll pay a few extra bucks for now, might consider a purchase here if the seller decides to stop treating customers so poorly.
Feel free lol.
I can't believe you consider that being treated poorly. my first purchase with him definitely deserved a 5/5 or better.
Maybe he just knows how detrimental it can be when one poor fuck leaves shitty feedback for some stupid reason. (like waiting an extra day for shipping than they think they should..)
Also, what is the point of coming to his forum and saying you doubt his products? His shit is legit and it would really bum me out if someone came onto my forum with a questioning attitude without having any experience with him.
Nothing wrong with waiting for some reviews but I'll say the same thing i said in the avenger thread, please suspend your paranoia until after you have dealt with this vendor.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my experience with him so far. ::)
You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted." I don't see how that is NOT being treated poorly. If the seller is confident in the product, that kind of threat is not necessary. And I have ordered from sellers with the occasional bad feedback if the weight of feedback (and other research on the seller) suggests that anything negative is either an aberration or someone with an axe to grind. But by preventing anything other than perfect feedback, I have NO way of telling whether people are ACTUALLY happy, or if they just don't want to deal with the seller's threats and see it as not worth it to leave negative feedback.
If the seller doesn't trust me to leave honest feedback, why on earth should I trust the seller to send me decent product? It's a two-way street, and quite simply, this is poor customer service and bad business practice.
I'm happy your transaction went well. But that doesn't change the fact that the terms of sale are unconscionable. And if I never voice that opinion, the seller will not know that these absurd policies are potentially costing sales.
I agree with CMK. The Planet Express name caught my eye (Futurama fan) but when I saw the MUST LEAVE 5/5 policy I immediately decided not to order from them. SR doesn't belong solely to vendors, buyers are equals in this community. In fact one could say buyers rank higher because vendors without buyers are just people with a lot of drugs for themselves. Buyers can go without (except jonesin' H users) drugs but vendors without buyers are sitting on an investment and no way to recoup, and many drugs don't have long shelf lives. They begin to lose potency soon after being made or harvested. We buyers should unionize, lol.
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Sorry, but that's a bit crazy for my taste. I'll pay a few extra bucks for now, might consider a purchase here if the seller decides to stop treating customers so poorly.
Feel free lol.
I can't believe you consider that being treated poorly. my first purchase with him definitely deserved a 5/5 or better.
Maybe he just knows how detrimental it can be when one poor fuck leaves shitty feedback for some stupid reason. (like waiting an extra day for shipping than they think they should..)
Also, what is the point of coming to his forum and saying you doubt his products? His shit is legit and it would really bum me out if someone came onto my forum with a questioning attitude without having any experience with him.
Nothing wrong with waiting for some reviews but I'll say the same thing i said in the avenger thread, please suspend your paranoia until after you have dealt with this vendor.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my experience with him so far. ::)
You will note, if you go back and read what I wrote, that I said it is very possible that his stuff is legit, and I have no basis to say for sure that it is not. HOWEVER: it is just a little bit suspicious that the terms of sale requires leaving perfect feedback even if the product is not satisfactory. The seller is basically saying "even if I give you shit, you have no recourse. Once you buy from me, if you don't leave perfect feedback, you get blacklisted." I don't see how that is NOT being treated poorly. If the seller is confident in the product, that kind of threat is not necessary. And I have ordered from sellers with the occasional bad feedback if the weight of feedback (and other research on the seller) suggests that anything negative is either an aberration or someone with an axe to grind. But by preventing anything other than perfect feedback, I have NO way of telling whether people are ACTUALLY happy, or if they just don't want to deal with the seller's threats and see it as not worth it to leave negative feedback.
If the seller doesn't trust me to leave honest feedback, why on earth should I trust the seller to send me decent product? It's a two-way street, and quite simply, this is poor customer service and bad business practice.
I'm happy your transaction went well. But that doesn't change the fact that the terms of sale are unconscionable. And if I never voice that opinion, the seller will not know that these absurd policies are potentially costing sales.
I agree with CMK. The Planet Express name caught my eye (Futurama fan) but when I saw the MUST LEAVE 5/5 policy I immediately decided not to order from them. SR doesn't belong solely to vendors, buyers are equals in this community. In fact one could say buyers rank higher because vendors without buyers are just people with a lot of drugs for themselves. Buyers can go without (except jonesin' H users) drugs but vendors without buyers are sitting on an investment and no way to recoup, and many drugs don't have long shelf lives. They begin to lose potency soon after being made or harvested. We buyers should unionize, lol.
PE has chimed in and clarified that his stance is a little less harsh than what it says on the page. Which does make me feel a little better.
HOWEVER, I think it would be more effectively worded as mollyexpress does: if you leave me less than 5/5 without first talking to me and trying to resolve, THEN I will refuse to work with you in the future. Which I think is a VERY reasonable policy. PE might consider modifying his terms to read more like that, which is I think what he meant anyway.
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Once again I agree with CMK. It should be fairly easy to edit the profile page and reword that. It is in everyone's best interest to make every effort to resolve issues before leaving feedback. It seems sometimes if a buyer complains the vendor immediately assumes it's an effort to extort or scam the vendor. Not always true. Vendors scales may not be properly calibrated or they may have gotten a weak batch of product or they may have thought they shipped when they didn't (Yes it can happen, it happened to me twice) so please vendors assume the buyer is on the up and up until you find out otherwise, and you will and buyers should assume the vendor is acting in good faith until they know otherwise, and they will eventually.
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Once again I agree with CMK. It should be fairly easy to edit the profile page and reword that.
planet changed his profile as soon as he saw everything that was going on on the forums.
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Okay so I honestly was trying to fool myself by being not skeptical but I feel too many things line up. One being that it is his first time selling all these new drugs at decent quantities and as far I as I know there has been no samples of any of these new listings (aside from his apb). Everyone who got these new items seem to be still 'processing' the order which could be a sign of him piling up all these orders to cash out on, and now on top of this I get asked to FE and while I must admit I have an account that appears new it is most definitely a second account. I really hope I am proven wrong, as these prices for lucy are incred... please someone prove me wrong and show me I'm being a paranoid cucumber.
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Once again I agree with CMK. It should be fairly easy to edit the profile page and reword that.
planet changed his profile as soon as he saw everything that was going on on the forums.
Good catch, very glad to see that! Shows a vendor who is conscious about his customer's concerns. Definitely a mark in the positive category for PE. Anxious to hear your trip report, Wavelength.
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I made an order from PE 3 days ago for some roxys and a sheet L. These have been in proccesing tell tonight when I got a message from PE to FE for my purchases. I have spent over 10k on the road and have flawless stats. How can you ask people to FE when they didnt state in the purchase?
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Got a message from PE to FE on both of my orders after tying up my coin all week, I checked his profile and purchase page before I ordered. I'm not a "new" buyer and purchased Roxy's from 7 different vendors all 5/5 transactions and FE the same day. Now it's marked in transit but it isn't shipped so my coin is probably going to be tied up for another 10 days...Sweet!
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Sigh, asked to FE on my half sheet. Greatly expanded inventory, surprise FE request. Already a page full of FE feedback.
I'm not happy. Buyer beware.
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aoeniacqc,
is your order marked in-transit?
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I also just got a message asking me to FE....My order shows "in transit" now (after 'processing' for 4 days) but he said in the message "It is ready to be shipped out now. If you could please finalize early it would help me greatly in cashing out my bitcoins and restocking my inventory quickly."
which makes it sound like he hasn't actually shipped it and isn't going to unless I FE?
If you look at his feedback theres about 15-20 people who must have fallen for it and FE all in the last hour...
I hope I'm wrong but I get the feeling he built up feedback selling APB and then listed all these other things suddenly at amazing prices to get a bunch of sales and now he's going to make everyone FE for a "trusted" seller and then run off with their bitcoins...
I really hope I'm wrong and everyone will be getting their product and stuff...But too much doesn't add up.
MY ADVICE: IGNORE HIS REQUEST TO FE EARLY OR YOURE GOING TO GET RIPPED OFF. THATS WHAT ESCROW IS FOR! If he is being honest and going to ship everything out, he can wait an extra 2 days for everyone to get their packages and finalize then
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aoeniacqc,
is your order marked in-transit?
Yes, otherwise I'd cancel.
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My half gram of cocaine is marked in transit now as well, along with a message asking me to FE.
Not happening buddy.
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damnit i was really hoping this L was legit..wouldv boughten thousands.. seems as though hes bout to run with whoever was dumb enough to FE.
beware people
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What a pain in the ass. Now my coins are gonna be held up for 10 days at least... If we have to get refunds, I hope it doesn't go on our stats, which would suck
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yeah he asked me to fe as well and i would like to officially state that i would no longer like to "vouch" for him until after my product shows up.
I did in fact FE for the gram of 6-apb on the way because I do trust him but in general I dont trust finalizing early, so I will be waiting to put my name on the line for him until after i receive my product.
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I also just got a message asking me to FE....My order shows "in transit" now (after 'processing' for 4 days) but he said in the message "It is ready to be shipped out now. If you could please finalize early it would help me greatly in cashing out my bitcoins and restocking my inventory quickly."
which makes it sound like he hasn't actually shipped it and isn't going to unless I FE?
If you look at his feedback theres about 15-20 people who must have fallen for it and FE all in the last hour...
I hope I'm wrong but I get the feeling he built up feedback selling APB and then listed all these other things suddenly at amazing prices to get a bunch of sales and now he's going to make everyone FE for a "trusted" seller and then run off with their bitcoins...
I really hope I'm wrong and everyone will be getting their product and stuff...But too much doesn't add up.
MY ADVICE: IGNORE HIS REQUEST TO FE EARLY OR YOURE GOING TO GET RIPPED OFF. THATS WHAT ESCROW IS FOR! If he is being honest and going to ship everything out, he can wait an extra 2 days for everyone to get their packages and finalize then
WOW i was noticing this the other day a reputation for less than $20 transactions, mostly apb a few valiums and a couple .1 of tar. now all of a sudden he cant ship untill I FE???? I saw this coming before it happened no one was ordering from his larger good priced items? yesterday there were 400 roxies if you put it in your cart later in the day there were only a few left which i snapped up and now he has almost 1000 of them available if you put it in your cart??? Not many people can come up with 1000 roxies at a time and if they could they certainly could wait a few days to be paid for them clearly!!!! Im not going ahead with this order which is a damn shame as i thought i could get some low priced roxys and and eightball of tar for a reasonable price. How do I not have to have a cancel on my record? I just have to ride it out and let SR sort it out huh? everyone should boycott his ask for FE, there is no sense in it and funny how everyone was lumped in untill tonight right before the weekend so he could stack up all the money before monday when no one receives theyre orders but i bet if your ordered apb it shows! ya because its like $20 a gram. i feel bad for the guy who fe for a sheet of acid and will choke on my words when proven wrong but i doubt it.
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I have been following PE and this thread very closely for a while, as I was quite suspicious of this new "amazing" vendor. He asked me to FE as well, and I immediately replied saying there was no way I would ever FE for a new vendor who Ive never done business with before. I asked him that if he was not OK with this then to cancel my order. Then I checked my order and saw that he marked it in transit. I am pretty sure we are not going to be receiving anything.
There were so many red flags but with 43 positive feedback I took a shot. Note to all the noobies, if it seems to good to be true, then it most certainly is. This scam has been around for too long on SR and I feel sorry for everyone who FE'd without thinking twice. Escrow is here for a reason guys!
I hope I am wrong but I certainly dont believe I am.
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I dont think he is going to scam us honestly... I could be wrong and I'm most certainly not telling people to go ahead and trust him, but the previous time I dealt with him was good.
If he does scam you, I don't believe it wont go against your stats regardless.
I guess we are in this together guys. lets just wait and see.
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I dont think he is going to scam us honestly... I could be wrong and I'm most certainly not telling people to go ahead and trust him, but the previous time I dealt with him was good.
If he does scam you, I don't believe it wont go against your stats regardless.
I guess we are in this together guys. lets just wait and see.
amazing.....dont FE....period.... 8)...someone who has that much product for sale doesn't need your money...if he cant cover his expense ..pull the listings, send the product, get your money and open again..are you all this blind?????
if this guy is a scammer, better shut down or change your drop points!
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OK...so lets use our brains....He has the best prices on SR for acid......some say "to good to be true" ...and he has offered no samples...I would be curious where he got the GC/MS test done in the USA..and why don't he post the results.? he has no listings lower than 50 so even if you dont like them and IF you got a refund your out 50%
good luck to those who give it a try...let us know...I will sit back and wait. 8)
You never know, i think we could see acid prices drop on bulk as more and more sellers come around...But for the past year I can say with much certainty that new vendors would offer 5=10 strips or offer 1-2 hit samples for free to check out the product to get his name out ........We all benefit from this and the scamms have been far and few lately...SO Don't let your guard down.
I get a kick out of some of these posters saying...Man! great prices, going to take a chance...yeah i have 250 laying around to throw out the window... ;D
anyway just be careful..
man My bad Karma jumped to a hundred...hummm pissed someone off........
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He seems like a trustworthy vender but I was asked to FE on a huge order and I rather not risk it.. Probably gonna end up canceling and ordering much smaller quantity.
yesterday there were 400 roxies if you put it in your cart later in the day there were only a few left which i snapped up and now he has almost 1000 of them available if you put it in your cart??? Not many people can come up with 1000 roxies at a time and if they could they certainly could wait a few days to be paid for them clearly!!!! Im not going ahead with this order which is a damn shame as i thought i could get some low priced roxys and and eightball of tar for a reasonable price
Im in the same boat as you and I noticed that too that there were 1000 roxies today that is kinda odd considering they are all a215's too.
Im hoping this vender pulls through, will update.
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So far FE's add up to over $2000 dollars in just a few hrs that i can total up and that is not including the 11 orders for roxies at $15 a piece no way to tell how many people bought per order but you can imagine people probably just didnt buy one at that price!!!! so im guessing at least $2500 or more has been FE in a few hrs. Will watch and see how many more people fall prey to this! there is no way i feel really bad for the guy who FE for a sheet of lsd and god knows how many roxies, oh shit another FE for a full sheet, guy says i I hope he throws in a few extra for fe early I do to for you buddy. Chalk up another $375 in the bank for Planet. People dont do it!!!!! Keep this thread up front for people to know whats going down
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planet express sent me the same exact message. looks like people are gonna get ripped off. NEVER fe. looks like my coins are gonna be tied up for a bit
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amazing.....dont FE....period.... 8)...someone who has that much product for sale doesn't need your money...if he cant cover his expense ..pull the listings, send the product, get your money and open again..are you all this blind?????
Well I honestly had a moment of considering the fact that he might have simply gotten a shit ton of orders and doesn't want to miss the opportunity to sell more. (wishful thinking, my zodiac sign is known for being blindly optimistic ::) )
I do agree though he could simply wait.
Well if he is legit he is going to see all of this hate tomorrow and probably reconsider his position. Also I feel like i need to add this....
He didn't require me to finalize, he simply said it would be very helpful.... I probably keep on creating excuses for this guy because I want him to be legit but in all seriousness, we are going to find out how legit he is in a few days, as he ships priority only and it usually gets there quickly.
(thanks for posting flyhigh, I always enjoy hearing your opinions)
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Talk about a way to screw people over! Hold order in processing until the last minute, then put it "in transit" then ask buyer to FE. So buyer's btc is tied up forever and buyer is supposed to think "shit, I can either FE or have my btc tied up for 10 or more days. I guess I'll FE and take my chances". What kind of bullshit is this? How can a vendor get away with this? My instincts paid off this time, I'm glad I didn't order from them and I never will now.
Has anyone gotten an order after having it "in transit" and FEing? Has anyone gotten an order that's been "in transit" and then refusing to FE?
There is no end to the ways people try to screw each other over on SR. That's why I really value the outstanding vendors here. I'm sticking to the tried and true from here on out. After 50 something buys from many different vendors I know where I'm spending my hard earned money and it isn't with fly-by-night shysters like this.
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Talk about a way to screw people over! Hold order in processing until the last minute, then put it "in transit" then ask buyer to FE. So buyer's btc is tied up forever and buyer is supposed to think "shit, I can either FE or have my btc tied up for 10 or more days. I guess I'll FE and take my chances". What kind of bullshit is this? How can a vendor get away with this? My instincts paid off this time, I'm glad I didn't order from them and I never will now.
Has anyone gotten an order after having it "in transit" and FEing? Has anyone gotten an order that's been "in transit" and then refusing to FE?
There is no end to the ways people try to screw each other over on SR. That's why I really value the outstanding vendors here. I'm sticking to the tried and true from here on out. After 50 something buys from many different vendors I know where I'm spending my hard earned money and it isn't with fly-by-night shysters like this.
A new vendor cant ask for FE......you need to report him now...SR needs to shut him down.........he will hold your money , send those you got tracking and wont send the others...take 50% of all those who didnt FE and didnt take tracking...in either event...your money will sit for weeks...
those who want acid ..stay close to the Avengers thread....peace
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A new vendor cant ask for FE......you need to report him now...SR needs to shut him down.........he will hold your money , send those you got tracking and wont send the others...take 50% of all those who didnt FE and didnt take tracking...in either event...your money will sit for weeks...
those who want acid ..stay close to the Avengers thread....peace
I think the rule is that you need to have 30 sales and he had the required amount to ask for fe.
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Well said Jackie, its easy to see the only thing anyone has ever gotten are orders less than $20 a piece, No COKE, no ketamine, no tar over .1 again $20 orders or less or little pip sized orders for apb, not to mention not one single hit of acid. everyone will know for sure on monday. The stats add up to bullshit. where are you planet gonna comment on this or see how far past $3000 your gonna make it. My guess is alot more. people dont be fooled
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If it looks too good to be true it is. On SR if it looks too good to be true then fucked.
Hey PlanetExpress... I know you are reading this... I hope you get it together and grow up. In this whole war on drugs that has cost so many so much, you are the lowest piece of scum in the whole system. Using the fucked up laws you've leveraged yourself into a place run by trust and respect and shit all over everywhere. You've taken good people's money who put some trust in you because you represented yourself as an ally.
But, you are "one of them". Now, you keep checking back over your shoulder. Do what is right now, or deal with it down the road.
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Really?? Can't see any order received over $20? This thread has exposed a lot of questions about how this vendor does business. I love the freedom SR gives all of us but sometimes I wish there was a little more oversight by the wonderful people running the store. I know we mostly police ourselves but there has to be a point where someone steps in and says "whoa, let's stop everything for a minute and look at what's going on here" and make a determination if the vendor is on the up-and-up. It might save a bunch of people a bunch of money and inconvenience.
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If it looks too good to be true it is. On SR if it looks too good to be true then fucked.
Hey PlanetExpress... I know you are reading this... I hope you get it together and grow up. In this whole war on drugs that has cost so many so much, you are the lowest piece of scum in the whole system. Using the fucked up laws you've leveraged yourself into a place run by trust and respect and shit all over everywhere. You've taken good people's money who put some trust in you because you represented yourself as an ally.
But, you are "one of them". Now, you keep checking back over your shoulder. Do what is right now, or deal with it down the road.
Lol dude holy shit everyone needs to chill. just wait and see what happens. ;D
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A new vendor cant ask for FE......you need to report him now...SR needs to shut him down.........he will hold your money , send those you got tracking and wont send the others...take 50% of all those who didnt FE and didnt take tracking...in either event...your money will sit for weeks...
those who want acid ..stay close to the Avengers thread....peace
I think the rule is that you need to have 30 sales and he had the required amount to ask for fe.
I stand corrected...."Once you have completed 35 successful transactions and have been a seller for at least one month, you may ask your customers to finalize early without repercussion."
He has the right.......SR wont do anything for a while.... :-[
PlanetExpress
has been a vendor for 1 month
was last seen: today
ranked in the top 75% of sellers with 100% positive feedback from 77 transactions
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Damn he only has (9) 1000 hit sheets of acid left available for sale at $2082 a pop, and hurry because there are only (18) 1/2oz lisitngs of his pure acetone washed coke at $650 a pop, 28 eightballs of ketamine 49 eightballs of Tar and dont forget the 1000 roxies. He has alot of product but cant handle waiting a few days, monday at the latest for our orders to arrive and then for everyone to pay him but, he has kingpin amounts of dope on hand but his total orders before he started requiring everyone to FE was probably less than $1000 total which built his rep on a handful of small penis amounts of apb which you can still order anywhere on the net easily, a few valiums, or single adderals for $11 a pop. Small time orders half of them are now FE'd transactions. Nice scheme I was just hoping for a good tar connect for the low, no such thing to be had
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Feedback is all FE's (a bunch of them!) from today, then as you go back there is no feedback for a 3 day period, then all the feedback 4 days and older says nothing about FE. And DtownsFinest is right, all the old feedback is for .1 gram bth, 200mg of APB6 (or whatever it is). No large orders, 8 Balls, etc, show up on the review pages. Something just doesn't look right. And several reviewers spelled vendor as "vender". That is weird. I'm not going to make accusations as I have no facts and haven't ordered from them but to paraphrase Will.I.Am Shakespeare "Something is rotten in the state of PlanetExpress."
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why doesn't everyone go to his profile page and click "report vendor" or stay in denial like wavelength
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why doesn't everyone go to his profile page and click "report vendor" or stay in denial like wavelength
Or stay in denial like me :)
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As of right now there is no basis for a "report vendor" just suspicions.
I can't wait for a few days to pass and see what happens with all the FEs from today, and all the marked "in transit"s that may or may not show up in the mailbox.
PE may really regret starting this thread. But I am having a blast reading all the posts!
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I really hope wavelength is correct, my item was just marked in transit now. Im really hoping or else my $ will be tied up, im so glad i didnt go overboard and drop 10+btc like i originally wanted to. Shit a few btc tied up still sucks, on the other hand maybe monday comes and im eating humble pie
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I really hope wavelength is correct, my item was just marked in transit now. Im really hoping or else my $ will be tied up, im so glad i didnt go overboard and drop 10+btc like i originally wanted to. Shit a few btc tied up still sucks, on the other hand maybe monday comes and im eating humble pie
so it was processing but he just put it into transit?
if so, that's good to know. he states on his profile that messages are backed up so I assume he is going through all of the orders and marking them in transit now.
in all fairness he did send me a custom link for 2 hits of lsd and it was free.... (i already sent him coins for another product but requested a small sample instead)
I dont think scammers would create multiple listings for buyers to mark shitty feedback on, but I could be wrong.
Honestly the fact that I've dealt with planetexpress before is what is holding me back from calling him a scammer. the reason the 0.5 listing of 6-apb is there is because i requested he make it due to me not having enough money to get a full gram. sure enough minutes later he had the link up and in a few days it was at my house.
He's been awesome to me, so if he is a scammer he is elaborate as fuck. Jumping through hoops just so people trust him...
I still honestly have faith that my package is going to be here in a few days, but obviously the FE thing has me questioning a bit.
Like I said earlier, we are all in this together.
BTW there is no reason to report this vendor yet, he has done nothing wrong as far as we know.
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I'm writing myself a reminder to come back here on Monday and see if you got your stuff.
The prices are soooo enticing! 1/2 oz of coke for $650?!?! I could almost fall for that.
The only time I ever actually ordered from someone with those kinds of prices I lost my money. Had to FE of course! Correction, I got taken twice. Once on BMR by the guy who was impersonating bcpltd and once on SR by some other douche. I have NEVER seen anyone get real coke at that price. Must have an awesome connection!
There is no feedback on the listings for 7g's of coke ($412) or 14g's of coke ($650). People aren't snatching it up at those prices?
Doesn't pass the smell test.
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God. Damn. It.
I view my messages first, don't think it looks too suspicious, so I FE. THEN see his feedback has gone from 43 to 83 (all FE), THEN come here and you guys are the voice of reason. I feel so stupid for not coming here and reading first. I spent over 150$ on roxis that I questioned were legit in the first place now you guys don't even think I'll get them to ever know...
SO being the newish buyer I am, once FE is clicked, NOTHING will ever get my money back, right? Even if it pans out that PE is a huge, elaborate scammer than fucked over half his customer base, nothing will be done to rectify things?
I guess it will just end up being an expensive mistake that I will NEVER make again...
What's really interesting is that there is NO sign of PE anywhere around to placate those (us) who are in need of some answers or just to appease our complaints.
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I put an order in for a g of his black tar. Then i got a message from him telling me that he has it all packed up and that i would need to FE before he sent it out to me. Needless to say, this was very dismaying. Official SR policy is directly against this. I don't want to start calling scammer at the moment but I believe I have earned respect to not have to FE especially with a vendor who has been here a month and has less than half than transactions that i have accumulated over almost 2 years. Then i see an avalanche of FE's on his feedback. Im waiting for his reply and don't know him that well but asking me to FE on my first transaction with him and then seeing all these FE's is putting bad thoughts in my head. If he can work this out with me then i will report back on this thread immediately but i would urge everyone to give a little more thought before they FE. Im not saying hes a scammer but this pattern is all too familiar for me. I will be back on here to apologize profusely if this works out.
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I put an order in for a g of his black tar. Then i got a message from him telling me that he has it all packed up and that i would need to FE before he sent it out to me. Needless to say, this was very dismaying. Official SR policy is directly against this. I don't want to start calling scammer at the moment but I believe I have earned respect to not have to FE especially with a vendor who has been here a month and has less than half than transactions that i have accumulated over almost 2 years. Then i see an avalanche of FE's on his feedback. Im waiting for his reply and don't know him that well but asking me to FE on my first transaction with him and then seeing all these FE's is putting bad thoughts in my head. If he can work this out with me then i will report back on this thread immediately but i would urge everyone to give a little more thought before they FE. Im not saying hes a scammer but this pattern is all too familiar for me. I will be back on here to apologize profusely if this works out.
Hello,
I have contacted Customer Support and forwarded them both this thread, and PlanetExpress's Vendor URL. For one reason or another the "Report Vendor" button does not seem to(unless this has since been fixed) alert SR Staff as you would think it would. Messaging them directly is the answer to this issue; that has been done.
I really hope those of you who have pending purchases with Planet Express DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. SR Staff has been alerted, and everything about this guy screamed 'Scammer' from the very beginning.
Oy.
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If it looks too good to be true it is. On SR if it looks too good to be true then fucked.
Hey PlanetExpress... I know you are reading this... I hope you get it together and grow up. In this whole war on drugs that has cost so many so much, you are the lowest piece of scum in the whole system. Using the fucked up laws you've leveraged yourself into a place run by trust and respect and shit all over everywhere. You've taken good people's money who put some trust in you because you represented yourself as an ally.
But, you are "one of them". Now, you keep checking back over your shoulder. Do what is right now, or deal with it down the road.
Lol dude holy shit everyone needs to chill. just wait and see what happens. ;D
Seems like a lot of people HAVE BEEN waiting. And it also seems like quite a few people are being asked to FE. His feedback is flooded with Early Finalizations. This is not cool.
Everyone needs to NOT FE because the guy asked you to AFTER ordering.
If this isn't a scam, HeatFan will drink YOUR piss.
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I put an order in for a g of his black tar. Then i got a message from him telling me that he has it all packed up and that i would need to FE before he sent it out to me. Needless to say, this was very dismaying. Official SR policy is directly against this. I don't want to start calling scammer at the moment but I believe I have earned respect to not have to FE especially with a vendor who has been here a month and has less than half than transactions that i have accumulated over almost 2 years. Then i see an avalanche of FE's on his feedback. Im waiting for his reply and don't know him that well but asking me to FE on my first transaction with him and then seeing all these FE's is putting bad thoughts in my head. If he can work this out with me then i will report back on this thread immediately but i would urge everyone to give a little more thought before they FE. Im not saying hes a scammer but this pattern is all too familiar for me. I will be back on here to apologize profusely if this works out.
Hello,
I have contacted Customer Support and forwarded them both this thread, and PlanetExpress's Vendor URL. For one reason or another the "Report Vendor" button does not seem to(unless this has since been fixed) alert SR Staff as you would think it would. Messaging them directly is the answer to this issue; that has been done.
I really hope those of you who have pending purchases with Planet Express DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. SR Staff has been alerted, and everything about this guy screamed 'Scammer' from the very beginning.
Oy.
Thanks dude. I saw his great deal and put in my order, then i got that weird message and then all those FE's started flooding his vendor page. I was really hesitating to report him but after like 30 FEs in a few hours i started getting the weird feeling that a scam was being perpetrated. Cheers for your reply. It's a shame
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Before all these FE shit started appearing I was already suspect of this guy because all of his orders to me at first glance were small amounts of valium, and alot of apb sample sizes not much $ each which i thought was legal anyway? probably not now but onwards, i noticed all these great products in his listings which would appeal to many a customer and I thought what if his feedback was created by him or people tied to him or that and combo of a few legit orders of apb, and that in fact it was LEO gathering addresses and orders for legitimate hard drugs. That was my first paranoid thoughts about this guy. I thought i smelled shit, turns out there is a pony in the barn. Just the motive was FE and bail most likely with 5-10k when its all said and done. Not bad for a months work screwing around online building rep on minimal orders. Then going in for the slay!!!
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Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
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Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
good to hear :)
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Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
So does that mean we HAVE to FE or you won't ship? I've done 10k orders on SR, 0% auto-finalize, 0% refund rate, I have to FE or have my order cancelled? You can't wait 2 days for me to receive it and finalize?
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very interestsing
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It was your choice to buy from a vendor who asks for FE. If you going to bitch about it, dont FE. There are plenty of vendors out there who dont require FE and you wont have a chance to bitch. If packages arrive ( and by that I mean consistently over a span of a month or two, scamming vendors are getting smart with strategy) great.
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It was your choice to buy from a vendor who asks for FE. If you going to bitch about it, dont FE. There are plenty of vendors out there who dont require FE and you wont have a chance to bitch. If packages arrive ( and by that I mean consistently over a span of a month or two, scamming vendors are getting smart with strategy) great.
Hello there. I have not bought anything from this vendor, but I've been watching them since they popped up. One thing I will say is that this vendor was NOT advertizing ANY 'requirement' to Finalize Early, and now suddenly they're asking all of their customers to FE before they ship, and their feedback is flooded with people who seem border-line ecstatic to be FE'ing.
At this point in time there is no mention of a requirement to FE on either their Vendor Profile, or the individual listings themselves. So he is essentially baiting people into an escrow sale, then telling them they must FE before he'll ship. This is called taking your BTC hostage.
From what I've read, there are a couple people in this thread who received 6-apb. Great! Well, when ANY vendor goes on a "FE or I wont ship it" spree as a few people are being told they have to, that's a HUGE red flag!
And EVERY time a new scammer has come along, they've smartened up their strategy, and the last FEW times a senior or hero member of the forums ordered their favorite drug of choice and it was legit, so they vouched and vouched, only to become and accessory to the scamming of a couple dozen others. I wouldn't be so quick to vouch for a 1 month old vendor.
Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
When you get to 44 transactions and then EVERY single feedback(I've counted) from there is "FE" ... It seems suspect. 44 Transactions puts you 9 over the 35 needed to 'ask for' even though SR does not 'condone' FE. So, let me get this straight, you're selling every drug on SR below the value of every other vendor on SR... and in the last 11 hours you've doubled in transaction count, all FE(for those unbeatable prices).
You've been here a month. ...
Guess I'll sit back and enjoy the show. This aught to be an interesting thread.
Btw, when are you going to list 5 lbs of "super dank" for 5k? </sarcasm>
I hope you're legit; but my gut tells me you are not. FE for trusted seller
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It was your choice to buy from a vendor who asks for FE. If you going to bitch about it, dont FE. There are plenty of vendors out there who dont require FE and you wont have a chance to bitch. If packages arrive ( and by that I mean consistently over a span of a month or two, scamming vendors are getting smart with strategy) great.
Hello there. I have not bought anything from this vendor, but I've been watching them since they popped up. One thing I will say is that this vendor was NOT advertizing ANY 'requirement' to Finalize Early, and now suddenly they're asking all of their customers to FE before they ship, and their feedback is flooded with people who seem border-line ecstatic to be FE'ing.
At this point in time there is no mention of a requirement to FE on either their Vendor Profile, or the individual listings themselves. So he is essentially baiting people into an escrow sale, then telling them they must FE before he'll ship. This is called taking your BTC hostage.
From what I've read, there are a couple people in this thread who received 6-apb. Great! Well, when ANY vendor goes on a "FE or I wont ship it" spree as a few people are being told they have to, that's a HUGE red flag!
And EVERY time a new scammer has come along, they've smartened up their strategy, and the last FEW times a senior or hero member of the forums ordered their favorite drug of choice and it was legit, so they vouched and vouched, only to become and accessory to the scamming of a couple dozen others. I wouldn't be so quick to vouch for a 1 month old vendor.
Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
When you get to 44 transactions and then EVERY single feedback(I've counted) from there is "FE" ... It seems suspect. 44 Transactions puts you 9 over the 35 needed to 'ask for' even though SR does not 'condone' FE. So, let me get this straight, you're selling every drug on SR below the value of every other vendor on SR... and in the last 11 hours you've doubled in transaction count, all FE(for those unbeatable prices).
You've been here a month. ...
Guess I'll sit back and enjoy the show. This aught to be an interesting thread.
Btw, when are you going to list 5 lbs of "super dank" for 5k? </sarcasm>
I hope you're legit; but my gut tells me you are not. FE for trusted seller
I think Praetorian is absolutely right.
Prices that are nearly to good to be true and now all that asking for FE, it is just waaay to suspicious.
So do it like Praetorian, sit back and enjoy the show and do not order till the fog clears...or the ship sinks :D
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I think both Praetorian and MerckWebsterAmy are right and articulated exactly what i wanted to say while at the same time i would like to believe this isn't the case. If you don't have the product to be selling without the need for people to FE than you should rethink your logistics and come back ready to do this professionally. It reminds me of this guy from Spain who did the same thing( advertised an amazing deal then demanded everyone FE before he sent the order). I put in the order but i will not FE because why should I? I have never bought from them before and I have 4 times as many transactions as PlanetExpress and have spent well over $17k on SR. I have asked him to cancel my order so we'll see how it goes.
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Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
Asking to FE is fine, asking to FE after putting order in transit is BULLSHIT! Apparently everyone must FE but you're only asking after the order is placed. Be straight up and put on your profile and the listings everyone has to FE to order.
I also noticed that you only began asking for FE about 3-4 days ago. All your reviews prior to that have no mention of FE.
You say you need to get coin to restock but you have like $100,000 worth of dope listed on your profile page.
These things don't add up so you should be able to understand why people are questioning your "business plan".
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Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
Well you could start by canceling orders faster. Being asked to FE on a small first transaction after ordering isn't cool.
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I can't help it...I have to laugh my ass off. PE is so blatantly not on the up-and-up (insanely low prices, massive inventory, no FE for 44 transactions and then ALL FE, puts order "in transit (yeah right) and then says "you have to FE") and then starts a thread on the forum asking for business and feedback.
He may as well have put up a neon sign saying "If you're willing to give me your money, I'm willing to take it".
And yet people hold out hope that they aren't getting scammed. I'm not willing to drink my own urine, as someone else offered to do, but I am willing to take bets on how this whole PE thing is going to turn out.
It ain't gonna be pretty in my estimation.
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DON'T FE OR BUY ANYTHING FROM HIM. HE IS A TOTAL SCAM. WHEN WILL PEOPLE REALIZE THIS?? STOP THINKING YOU ARE GETTING A PACKAGE YOU WON'T BE GETTING ANYTHING AT ALL.
NOW HE HAS REMOVED THE LINK TO THIS THREAD FROM HIS PROFILE PAGE.
CANCEL ORDERS IF WE DON'T FE?? WHY THE F. WOULD YOU MARK IT IN-TRANSIT THEN YOU DOUCHE, KEEP STACKING COIN, IN THE END....KARMA IS A BITCH..
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this needs to be dealt with already, i want my cash out of escrow
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I'm really glad I didn't make the initial leap, and waited for others to share their experiences.
Marking things in transit and then springing an FE requirement is HIGHLY suspicious, if not outright thuggish, behavior. Asking for the FE before marking in transit would be irregular and somewhat suspicious, but the part about having marked things in transit is beyond the pale. And then the vendor removing the link to this thread...well, yea...
It's starting to become clear that this vendor does not do business the proper way. If you are in a position where you can't keep conducting business unless people FE, you need to scale back your business and get yourself a bankroll before trying to play with the big boys.
And that's giving the benefit of the doubt. My more cynical side tells me that the signs point to high risk of scam. It might even be that a number of people from this FE batch get product, in order to show that "all is well" even though the vendor sprung an FE requirement on buyers by holding their BTC hostage. But I'm not sure how many waves I'd expect that to keep up...
Proceed with caution.
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Hi guys I contact PE he was very fast to answer I was about to place a larger order for BTH but I have not ready any feedback from anyone on quality ? did I miss something ?
I guess I should just order a sample if its good quality it competes with dutch sellers #4 prices I am in , I have found the high on BTH to be very rich less clinical than afgani #4 salt but my experience is limited I also found that I had to use 1.5-2x by weight that works at his price the question is how strong and or clean is his TAR ?
Thanks for any input
GF
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@Gonefishin you shouldn't even buy a small amount. The vendor is not square. You may get your order if it's small enough but you may also get nothing or you may get something but not what you ordered. The word is people have gotten products that did not work as advertised. Even if this guy ships product it will take forever to get yours if you order now. Look at all the orders piling up on the feedback page and that's just the FEs!
This guy has a con of some sort going, don't waste your money.
There are lots of vendors who are reliable, trustworthy and committed to getting you high quality products.
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I'm not sure if it's nobody has reported him for such blatant Bait and Switchin', or that the mods just don't care. You seriously can't make people FE if it wasn't displayed clearly in your terms, and if that isn't one of the more major rule violations then I don't know what is.
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I placed a small order on the off chance PE is legit, nope. I FE'd once before and lost US$600 - never FE again.
"Thank you for your order. It is ready to be shipped out now. If you could please finalize early it would help me greatly in cashing out my bitcoins and restocking my inventory quickly.
Best,
Planet Express"
Ummm dude you have about 100k worth of drugs listed, you need my less than hundred dollars worth of bitcoins right now? nope!
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Wow guys I was about to give the guy $670 for BTH but held off on instinct , I will wait and see there seems to be way more scamming going on here than in the past 6 months I was kinda out of touch for sometime now .
GF
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Any vendor who MAKES NO MENTION of "Finalizing Early" on both their Vendor Profile AND their Listings, who waits for 'suckers' to order, and then tells them the 'only way' he can ship it is if they FE?
S C A M
How is that not obvious?
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Any vendor who MAKES NO MENTION of "Finalizing Early" on both their Vendor Profile AND their Listings, who waits for 'suckers' to order, and then tells them the 'only way' he can ship it is if they FE?
S C A M
How is that not obvious?
you all worry about your money.......all your drop points are fucked if this is a scam....many of us raised the Scamm flag...
BTW has he canelled any order yet?????? who ever got their coin back from a cancel please post ASAP.
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NooOooONoOoOOOoOOO!!!
I always trust too much. WHEN WILL I LEARN?!?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't go on SR at 4am when I'm waiting for my westerns to transfer.
This is lame.
I suck.
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I definitely did NOT FE...though I have $2,000 in BTC stuck in escrow thanks to this dick. I placed the order then he said "Now, please FE since you are a new user." I have over $1800 in spent money and I've been on here for over 4 months - that doesn't make me a vet - but I'm sure not new.
So many people lost money.
I hope our drop points are fucked.
I'm a little sketched out at this point.
Honestly, not to offend anyone - but I hope this guy is just trying to make some quick scrap and run off -not fuck anyone.
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Well, I bit the bullet, took my chances and ordered Ketamine, BTH and 6-APB from Planet Express.
I've never done any of these drugs in the past.
ADVENTURETIME.
lol oh my god I might just put this in my sig...
why would you buy three of the craziest drugs if you've never done any of them? xD
Ha, I'd be flattered.
To be honest, I set out to get some K to treat my severe depression. Apparantly it works near-immidiately, and for a far greater percentage of people than those useless shit pills my psychopharmicologist keeps trying to get me to take. They make me dull. I'm working on a PhD, and I need my brain. Sub-recreational doses (0.5 mg/kg) weekly often result in full remission. I'm fucking sick of my doctor not wanting to prescribe me drugs that are already legal and are shown to work (although in small studies) because some people like to use them recreationally. No, SSRIs are not any less likely to cause dependence, they just aren't fun, so it's ok to have them. The ONLY thing (besides cannabis) that helps my mood at all is Tramadol, and s/he wants to take me off it (only been 2 months) because of its addictive potential. I didn't ask her to raise my dose. It isn't intoxicating, and it isn't fun. All I feel is relief -- why can't I have that?
WHOA RANT, SORRY.
The other stuff?
I don't have many friends, and I don't have any here (hence, the depression), so I like to turn into myself and explore my mind. I did Lucy for the first time at a festival this summer. I went alone, and had the most amazing time.
TL;DR: I fucking love drugs.
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NooOooONoOoOOOoOOO!!!
I always trust too much. WHEN WILL I LEARN?!?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't go on SR at 4am when I'm waiting for my westerns to transfer.
This is lame.
I suck.
Derp, this is only half a thought.
I definitely DID NOT FE; but my message was more "please kindly FE so I can send your package out thanks for the help." Did other people get a more direct demand, "if you want your package FE now?"
I'm not delusional, I know I ain't getting shit, but I just wonder if I got a polite message due to the fact that I spend a shit-ton of money on SR and have [had? is this going to ruin it? oh my OCD, fuck.] perfect stats. If so, I have to respect his tactic, it is perfect. Newbies you can likely bully into FingE, but if he pulled that shit on someone who's been around the block it would not even have a chance. He might get one by accident if he stumbles across someone who sometimes forgets what a polite message written with proper grammar and punctuation looks like, and is just feeling refreshed and trusting.
Still, fuck me for not seeing it.
The sign was on the wall.
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What are the odds that this guy is some kind of LE scoping out addresses?
I'm spooked as fuck. My drop address + that order message is grounds to get fucked, is it not?
How do I get my BTC out of escrow? Just wait?
At this point, I'd be happy to take my money and run.
All of this security scare + shit like this happening has me on edge.
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Well, I bit the bullet, took my chances and ordered Ketamine, BTH and 6-APB from Planet Express.
I've never done any of these drugs in the past.
ADVENTURETIME.
lol oh my god I might just put this in my sig...
why would you buy three of the craziest drugs if you've never done any of them? xD
Ha, I'd be flattered.
To be honest, I set out to get some K to treat my severe depression. Apparantly it works near-immidiately, and for a far greater percentage of people than those useless shit pills my psychopharmicologist keeps trying to get me to take. They make me dull. I'm working on a PhD, and I need my brain. Sub-recreational doses (0.5 mg/kg) weekly often result in full remission. I'm fucking sick of my doctor not wanting to prescribe me drugs that are already legal and are shown to work (although in small studies) because some people like to use them recreationally. No, SSRIs are not any less likely to cause dependence, they just aren't fun, so it's ok to have them. The ONLY thing (besides cannabis) that helps my mood at all is Tramadol, and s/he wants to take me off it (only been 2 months) because of its addictive potential. I didn't ask her to raise my dose. It isn't intoxicating, and it isn't fun. All I feel is relief -- why can't I have that?
WHOA RANT, SORRY.
The other stuff?
I don't have many friends, and I don't have any here (hence, the depression), so I like to turn into myself and explore my mind. I did Lucy for the first time at a festival this summer. I went alone, and had the most amazing time.
TL;DR: I fucking love drugs.
Someone I know was doing K for depression; said it was the only thing that worked and it worked well.
I asked if she'd ever smoked DMT, to which she replied: "No"
I then smoked her up on DMT. She did not have a need for the K for 3 months, then the depression slowly came back. She asked me to smoke her up on more DMT... I did... and now she's fine again.
Weird how the world works.
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OOOHHHH SHIT! ??? ??? ???
i just came on, been out getting my nipples pierced....i had shot glass hung off them for my next party.... ;D....anyway.....SO you all are going to get fucked by PE........I thought this shit cant happen anymore around here? Man I am bummed out...i guess i will do a shot....tehe tehe ;)
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Hey guys I just got sliver of hope... I sent PE a message saying that I have spend 10k on the road and have a 1% return rate and that I will not FE. He replied to my message tonight saying " You have good stats, I will ship to you. " So looks like I dont have to FE and my products are getting shipped. I think it is worth noting that I bought 100 hits of LSD and 10 Oxys. Hopefully, this guy is legit. If not, I dont know what is angle is telling me he will ship without FE. Fingers crossed? :-\
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I got a similar message.
I ordered 1,000 hits. My money is still in escrow and PE said my order is now in the mail and I should expect it wednesday.
We'll see. I will definitely update.
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I got a similar message.
I ordered 1,000 hits. My money is still in escrow and PE said my order is now in the mail and I should expect it wednesday.
We'll see. I will definitely update.
Could it be that this is for real?
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I have no clue. If it is, I'll stand behind this guy big time.
Maybe that's part of his scam, I don't know...but if he'll work with me through escrow, all I'm losing is time...
I'll happily test this stuff fresh out of the package and post the results.
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I feel you man.. If he ends up fucking us and wasting all this time I wuill be really dissappointed. Wouldn't we be lucky if somehow shipping to us was part of the scam, to get more people to FE, but we actually got product...
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I would feel bad for the others...but I certainly wouldn't be too mad.
I could really use this leg up, that's for sure.
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i still didnt fe but he said he'd ship anyways. lets see how it goes...
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Its just not happening and I hate to bring everyone's hopes down but he has run a very very elaborate scam. Hopefully SR will step in and see what has happened and our refund rate will not be affected (highly doubt it). But, that is the only thing you can hope for. He might have well over 100k of product listings even with the FE's he would only (if legit) be able to cop 1/4 of the total drugs at most!
-Why would he remove the link to this thread
-Bait everyone until end of the week to contact them
-Mark in-transit when he stated he isn't shipping until FE
-Copy&Paste the same message to everyone, "due to high refund rate.."wtf are you talking about you POS..refund rate is 0%
-Never sold any of these drugs except for some 6APB shit don't know what the fuck that is
-Expand the inventory immediately when asking everyone to FE
-No Pictures of any of the drugs except that fucking cartoon drug
I am sure I missed a couple more but that is my observation the only credible thing he has going for him:
-Actual shipped something and marketed it as a "drug"
Anyone's guess how much coin he has gotten so far from the FE's?
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It was your choice to buy from a vendor who asks for FE. If you going to bitch about it, dont FE. There are plenty of vendors out there who dont require FE and you wont have a chance to bitch. If packages arrive ( and by that I mean consistently over a span of a month or two, scamming vendors are getting smart with strategy) great.
Where does it say on his page that he requires FE? That would be one thing. Not mentioning it, then telling people their shit is all packaged and ready to go once they FE is another.
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Its just not happening and I hate to bring everyone's hopes down but he has run a very very elaborate scam. Hopefully SR will step in and see what has happened and our refund rate will not be affected (highly doubt it). But, that is the only thing you can hope for. He might have well over 100k of product listings even with the FE's he would only (if legit) be able to cop 1/4 of the total drugs at most!
-Why would he remove the link to this thread
-Bait everyone until end of the week to contact them
-Mark in-transit when he stated he isn't shipping until FE
-Copy&Paste the same message to everyone, "due to high refund rate.."wtf are you talking about you POS..refund rate is 0%
-Never sold any of these drugs except for some 6APB shit don't know what the fuck that is
-Expand the inventory immediately when asking everyone to FE
-No Pictures of any of the drugs except that fucking cartoon drug
I am sure I missed a couple more but that is my observation the only credible thing he has going for him:
-Actual shipped something and marketed it as a "drug"
Anyone's guess how much coin he has gotten so far from the FE's?
Did you see that he said he would wish, without FE, to me and a couple other people who have very high buying stats 10k+?
What do you make of it?
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UPDATE FROM PE's Vendor Page:
8/16 - We are shipping tomorrow (Saturday Aug 17) also. Pulling an all-nighter, so if you order between now and Saturday 12pm EST we will get it out Saturday.
8/16 - Taking a whack at answering messages tonight, but keep in mind we're getting about 200 per day right now and shipping 40+ packages per day (it takes a lot longer than you would think). Getting packages out takes priority over answering messages, so please understand if we take a while to answer, but we will eventually.
I also see his positive feedback is now 125:\
What do you make of the updates?
I still am holding out hope for some reason... Did anyone on this thread FE or was I the only one gullible enough to trust?
I asked in an earlier post if anything can be done after FE is complete; no one responded but I am assuming no, correct?
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UPDATE FROM PE's Vendor Page:
8/16 - We are shipping tomorrow (Saturday Aug 17) also. Pulling an all-nighter, so if you order between now and Saturday 12pm EST we will get it out Saturday.
8/16 - Taking a whack at answering messages tonight, but keep in mind we're getting about 200 per day right now and shipping 40+ packages per day (it takes a lot longer than you would think). Getting packages out takes priority over answering messages, so please understand if we take a while to answer, but we will eventually.
I also see his positive feedback is now 125:\
What do you make of the updates?
I still am holding out hope for some reason... Did anyone on this thread FE or was I the only one gullible enough to trust?
I asked in an earlier post if anything can be done after FE is complete; no one responded but I am assuming no, correct?
everyone who left a comment on his page FE'd otherwise you couldn't leave a comment and rating....I would put you rating to a 1...and if the stuff comes give him the 5 he wants....everyone is 5/5...funny
AND yes if you FE'd you lost your money if he dont send product..you have no recourse SR will not help you...
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everyone who left a comment on his page FE'd otherwise you couldn't leave a comment and rating....I would put you rating to a 1...and if the stuff comes give him the 5 he wants....everyone is 5/5...funny
Yeah I see what you are saying and I understand that I was just asking if anyone else on this thread specifically FE'd or if it was just me... Not overall.
AND yes if you FE'd you lost your money if he dont send product..you have no recourse SR will not help you...
lol, yeah that's what I figured. Expensive mistake and I guess that's all. Thanks for the response anyway...
I suppose if the product arrives, then great. If not, hopefully it's not something more.......... Serious. :\
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.........and holy shit PE just put up a ton of cannabis listings. 600 for a QP... this is crazy..
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Hey I understand everybody is freaked out about me asking for FE, but if anybody is uncomfortable with it I will cancel your order tomorrow once I have a chance to go through my messages, no hard feelings, you can feel free to come back and order once people start receiving their packages and it is once again confirmed that I am not a scammer. I need to get money quickly to restock my inventory, FE is the best way to do it, and I am completely within my bounds as an SR vendor to ask for FE according to the seller's guide. Once again, I apologise if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way asking for FE, just know that I have and will do anything to make my customers happy.
Hoping my ordered is canceled soon. Waiting for seller to respond to my messages.
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UPDATE FROM PE's Vendor Page:
8/16 - We are shipping tomorrow (Saturday Aug 17) also. Pulling an all-nighter, so if you order between now and Saturday 12pm EST we will get it out Saturday.
8/16 - Taking a whack at answering messages tonight, but keep in mind we're getting about 200 per day right now and shipping 40+ packages per day (it takes a lot longer than you would think). Getting packages out takes priority over answering messages, so please understand if we take a while to answer, but we will eventually.
I also see his positive feedback is now 125:\
What do you make of the updates?
I still am holding out hope for some reason... Did anyone on this thread FE or was I the only one gullible enough to trust?
I asked in an earlier post if anything can be done after FE is complete; no one responded but I am assuming no, correct?
everyone who left a comment on his page FE'd otherwise you couldn't leave a comment and rating....I would put you rating to a 1...and if the stuff comes give him the 5 he wants....everyone is 5/5...funny
AND yes if you FE'd you lost your money if he dont send product..you have no recourse SR will not help you...
Yes^ If you don't get your order you are out of luck. You could try to negotiate with the vendor to refund you and cancel the order but good luck reaching him. Somebody posted he put up a ton of cannabis listings and selling @ $600 a QP. If he can do that why does he need anyone to FE? He clearly has coin to get more product. Look at the amount of drugs and money on his listings. Who sells 14g of coke for $650? and you better hurry! There are only 48 left! The only thing I can say is I'm glad PE started this topic. I bet it prevented even more people from losing money.
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This guy needs to be stopped, its all bullshit folks you will not receive a fucking thing!!! This was a very elaborate scheme, he is gonna make off with more than $10k at least at this point. How can people be so blind??? He hasnt sold any weight nothing over a $20 order guys, this dude has lb's of Girl scout cookies, Diesel etc now for less than $2k a pound??? Ya right!!! My ass! This guy has never seen a pound of weed on his life. SR MODS need to do something now he has not garnered the trust to be able to do this. My mouth is on the ground right now when i looked and saw how many more people have FE with this doueche!!! All I can do is say I told you so when the dust settles. Monday everyone will know he is full of shit :-\ :-\ :-\ >:( >:(
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lets face it, no matter how much you warn people they just don't get it..they think the best..but the facts just don't add up.
no vendor on SR is going to sell this cheap. you hear it from many great vendors that the cost to do business on SR is hard..but lets say he did want to make a splash and have a sale...all he had to do was come down 10 -20 dollars..many be 50 and he still would have had a flood of orders...going half sucked in all the morons
Do all you people who ordered really think this is a nice guy, doing a good thing...really :o..he don't owe us anything .. why would he cut his prices in half on the top most sort after drugs on SR???...and I agree with DtwonsFinest....his past order had no weight...he built no trust, no history that he can handle shipping , security, packaging...on this grand scale..
I know everyone is saying...i hope your wrong..so i can say yes!!!.....i know you all are say stop saying i told you so!...not going to happen...my one year here in SR...at least 10 scamms like this happened..and the same thing happens....now i know many orders are from those who never even come on here, so they are fucked......But for those who are active on this forum.....I'm very surprised and very sad for you........
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Eachtime i go and look at his page i feel more sick, the people FE'ing is crazy. People are losing mad money, on big orders too! Flyhigh you are wise, i appreciate you continuing to keep bringing this up as i recall I dont believe you even have a pony in this race but still trying to help others out not to be taken by this dude. people do the research and just say no to his FE
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Subscribing to see how this unfolds...
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OK...so lets use our brains....He has the best prices on SR for acid......some say "to good to be true" ...and he has offered no samples...I would be curious where he got the GC/MS test done in the USA..and why don't he post the results.? he has no listings lower than 50 so even if you dont like them and IF you got a refund your out 50%
good luck to those who give it a try...let us know...I will sit back and wait. 8)
You never know, i think we could see acid prices drop on bulk as more and more sellers come around...But for the past year I can say with much certainty that new vendors would offer 5=10 strips or offer 1-2 hit samples for free to check out the product to get his name out ........We all benefit from this and the scamms have been far and few lately...SO Don't let your guard down.
I get a kick out of some of these posters saying...Man! great prices, going to take a chance...yeah i have 250 laying around to throw out the window... ;D
anyway just be careful..
i posted this on page three just as he rolled out all his product and the buzz was all around.......it didnt help Bro... :-[...but i agree keep making post all over the forums maybe we can save on poor sole :-\
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5 of 5 great ship speed, you made a fan 4 hours
Does this mean someone has received their item????
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5 of 5 great ship speed, you made a fan 4 hours
Does this mean someone has received their item????
More likely someone posted that after his order was marked "in transit" and he was conned into FE by the vendor. I read it was "quick to ship" not "quick to arrive"
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Yall know he agreed to ship my shit without an FE, right?
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Yall know he agreed to ship my shit without an FE, right?
So one report of an FE request withdrawal, and pages on pages of feedback about FE, when the vendor page NEVER mentioned anything about FE. Seems like you are the exception, not the rule.
Happy for you, but it's still more than a little suspicious
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ya he agreed to ship why not? he has nothing to loose, he may have some even auto finalize and get the cash in the meantime it makes it seem like all is well to curb posts on this thread but why take down the link??. he said mine was in transit after i said hell no to fe to him also. and the dummies who say 5/5 shipped quick because he marked it in transit they just too dumb to realize. If he were a real vendor he would be the best prices on SR for every item possible. No one has bud that cheap either, amazing how he came into lbs of multiple different starins all of a sudden as well. Ugh what an asswipe
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who FE's for a vendor who has been around for a month? seriously
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Just my 2 cents...
This guy is certainly a scammer....
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I think DPR or one the administrators should put a giant disclaimer on the front page of the SR homepage saying to never FE. Not enough newbs and other people never even make it to the forums and have no idea what the reputation is for some of the vendors. Cursory glances here on the forums could stop alot of the mischief that gets perpetrated(and could easily be avoided). PE has not read any of my messages after he asked me to FE and i saw that his transactions have gone up by 100 in the past day. my order has been processed and i wont be able to go to resolution for another 10 days so (fingers crossed) maybe he really will send it but i think most of us veterans know when a vendor starts acting like this, hes usually gone just as quickly.
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DPT wrote the rules...you can put a bill board up with hug letters saying "do not FE " and " NEVER FE for a NEW VENDOR" ...but people will still fe...
I don't blame DPR one bit and he should keep every penny he gets.....DPR don't owe us shit if a deal goes bad....he has enough to worry about keeping SR from being hacked...
anyone have some BTC to spare ..i see a great deal on a 1/4 pound or weed :o :P :-X
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DPT wrote the rules...you can put a bill board up with hug letters saying "do not FE " and " NEVER FE for a NEW VENDOR" ...but people will still fe...
I don't blame DPR one bit and he should keep every penny he gets.....DPR don't owe us shit if a deal goes bad....he has enough to worry about keeping SR from being hacked...
anyone have some BTC to spare ..i see a great deal on a 1/4 pound or weed :o :P :-X
i hear you, just the way it is. i've only got like $2 of btc sitting around, would that help?
and btw, i finally got a response for PE that says he shipped my order and i can expect it next week. so i'll be sure to let everyone know how it goes.
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Hey everyone I understand your concern, but I can assure you that this is not a scam and there is no need for alarm. I ask people for FE so that I don't have to wait as long to have cash in hand for my suppliers and I am well within my rights as a vendor to do so. If anyone else here is a vendor, you will understand that getting cash in hand quickly is a big deal, especially when I'm just starting out and need to re-up quickly so that there is no gap in my supply. Anyway, I just wanted to stop by here and give whatever reassurance I can in the face of such overwhelming accusation that your orders will all arrive next week. I know I'm the new guy and all, but I think all of these accusations are a bit drastic.
Everyone just wait until next Wednesday or Thursday, and you will see people starting to report that they have indeed received their orders. I think the only thing I CAN do at this point is wait for people to receive their orders, and then the SR community will settle down. Also I want you all to know that I have no hard feelings if you are in the "PE is a scammer" boat right now and would love to do business with you once you have been convinced that I am legitimate. All that I ask is that you stop the accusations on my thread once it has been established that I am legitimate. I'm just asking you to give me a chance here.
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Hey everyone I understand your concern, but I can assure you that this is not a scam and there is no need for alarm. I ask people for FE so that I don't have to wait as long to have cash in hand for my suppliers and I am well within my rights as a vendor to do so. If anyone else here is a vendor, you will understand that getting cash in hand quickly is a big deal, especially when I'm just starting out and need to re-up quickly so that there is no gap in my supply. Anyway, I just wanted to stop by here and give whatever reassurance I can in the face of such overwhelming accusation that your orders will all arrive next week. I know I'm the new guy and all, but I think all of these accusations are a bit drastic.
Everyone just wait until next Wednesday or Thursday, and you will see people starting to report that they have indeed received their orders. I think the only thing I CAN do at this point is wait for people to receive their orders, and then the SR community will settle down. Also I want you all to know that I have no hard feelings if you are in the "PE is a scammer" boat right now and would love to do business with you once you have been convinced that I am legitimate. All that I ask is that you stop the accusations on my thread once it has been established that I am legitimate. I'm just asking you to give me a chance here.
I think most people appreciate hearing from a vendor and i know for a vendor getting hit with that can really hurt. But i think once orders come in you'll find most people are accomodating and will be sure to set the record straight in regards to your vendorship. As i said myself, once i receive the order i will be sure to let everyone know how legit you are. Some people don't have the patience but i think you will find that this forum is full of respectful and honest people. I wish you luck on your future endeavors.
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Hey everyone I understand your concern, but I can assure you that this is not a scam and there is no need for alarm. I ask people for FE so that I don't have to wait as long to have cash in hand for my suppliers and I am well within my rights as a vendor to do so. If anyone else here is a vendor, you will understand that getting cash in hand quickly is a big deal, especially when I'm just starting out and need to re-up quickly so that there is no gap in my supply. Anyway, I just wanted to stop by here and give whatever reassurance I can in the face of such overwhelming accusation that your orders will all arrive next week. I know I'm the new guy and all, but I think all of these accusations are a bit drastic.
Everyone just wait until next Wednesday or Thursday, and you will see people starting to report that they have indeed received their orders. I think the only thing I CAN do at this point is wait for people to receive their orders, and then the SR community will settle down. Also I want you all to know that I have no hard feelings if you are in the "PE is a scammer" boat right now and would love to do business with you once you have been convinced that I am legitimate. All that I ask is that you stop the accusations on my thread once it has been established that I am legitimate. I'm just asking you to give me a chance here.
how about this....several people asked you to cancel their orders...so they can get their BTC back....why cant you do that????...I want to see where people asked to cancel and you did...
also drop your listings until orders are recieved
I swear if i didn't know any better this guy sounds like ETM....go back and read some of his post when he scammed the hell out of people...
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Hey guys, this guy may be legit - MAY BE... I placed an order for some stuff, he asked me to FE before he would ship. I said No, I never FE please cancel the order. He finally replied today and said no worries, he doesn't require FE, the package has already shipped and I can expect it next week. So, I will post back here if it arrives. Still haven't finalized, so I'm good either way!
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Hey guys, this guy may be legit - MAY BE... I placed an order for some stuff, he asked me to FE before he would ship. I said No, I never FE please cancel the order. He finally replied today and said no worries, he doesn't require FE, the package has already shipped and I can expect it next week. So, I will post back here if it arrives. Still haven't finalized, so I'm good either way!
Same boat as you
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Welcome o the silk road
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I did not FE. PE marked my order as "in transit"
I will update once rcvd. 3g 6apb 2roxy.
If this does turn out to be a scam. Who should I contact to get my purchasing stats set straight? I have a spotless record as of now and would hate to see my refund % go up if this guy turns out to be a scammer. Is there anyone on SR who would be able to help me keep my stats spotless?
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Everyone just wait until next Wednesday or Thursday, and you will see people starting to report that they have indeed received their orders.
The fact that he said wait until "next wed or thursday" when on his profile he says that on 8/13 (last tuesday) he says he's working hard to get all of the orders out makes it sound like BS....If he really shipped some out last tuesday (or even wed or thurs) priority people would have already started getting them. Priority mail is 2 days most of the time...Why would we have to wait until next Wed or Thurs? Just so he can have time for more idiots to FE....
For the record, heres what his profile says
"If we haven't marked your order "in transit" yet don't worry, you haven't been forgotten. We will try our best to get the majority of our orders out tomorrow. If your order has not been processed by tomorrow (Wednesday, August 14), it will most definitely go out Thursday."
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I do believe SR gets a commission on each sale. Does this mean that they now have 10% of every single one of those FE orders? If so, they should hold on to that so they can send it back when this guy dips town. Least you can do for letting this shitshow carry on.
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The whole "he may be legit, he just said I don't need to FE and that my order shipped."
I held onto that sliver of hope for about...60 seconds when I got that message yesterday.
Upon second thought, however, I'm pissed.
I sent him a pretty angry message - and said "Please cancel my order."
He said "If you're going to order more bulk later, I'll ship without FE...just let me know what you want to do.
I immediately messaged back "I'll cancel this time. If all goes well for you, I'll apologize and make my order later."
He said "Too late. It already shipped."
But he JUST posted that that stuff wasn't getting shipped out until today. Did he run to the PO for mine only?
He's just buying time so he gets people like us who say "Oh hey! He's sending mine without FE!" so that more people will say "Ohp. He must be legit then. Imma FE"
I'm sure some of these FE's aren't even real. If they are...I pity the guy that FE'd on 14g of cocaine.
It's gonna be a fairly rough loss for you.
I've already promised these BTC to another vendor once they get out of escrow, because they will...because I won't be receiving this order.
Whatever.
And as far as "SR should save that 10% because it's the least they can do for letting this carry on."
No they shouldn't. You shouldn't ever FE. Ever. Even respected vendors that want FE for bulk - that's YOUR risk. Not SR's. They could not be more blatant about USE ESCROW FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION.
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Only thing to do now-> dont order, dont FE, just relax.
Tied up funds are better then lost fund
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/085c6c9b98
Yup. $3600 for 2 lbs of Top Shelf Weed? FE of course.
THIS IS A SCAM. Good luck finding out the hard way folks.
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I sincerely hope he follows through. He would get the most glowing review from me, honestly.
I've picked up 1,000 hits locally for a similar price to what I just paid him, so it's certainly REASONABLE that he could post it at that price, make a much smaller profit - then just have a decent customer base because of a ton of stellar orders.
My hopes just aren't high. I'm not worried that I'll lose my money - either I'll get my order, be elated - and be a repeat customer.
Or he'll run off, SR will return my money from escrow - and I'll only have wasted my time.
He tells me my order will be here Wednesday, so I don't have too long to wait to see what's up.
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Hey everyone I understand your concern, but I can assure you that this is not a scam and there is no need for alarm. I ask people for FE so that I don't have to wait as long to have cash in hand for my suppliers and I am well within my rights as a vendor to do so. If anyone else here is a vendor, you will understand that getting cash in hand quickly is a big deal, especially when I'm just starting out and need to re-up quickly so that there is no gap in my supply. Anyway, I just wanted to stop by here and give whatever reassurance I can in the face of such overwhelming accusation that your orders will all arrive next week. I know I'm the new guy and all, but I think all of these accusations are a bit drastic.
Everyone just wait until next Wednesday or Thursday, and you will see people starting to report that they have indeed received their orders. I think the only thing I CAN do at this point is wait for people to receive their orders, and then the SR community will settle down. Also I want you all to know that I have no hard feelings if you are in the "PE is a scammer" boat right now and would love to do business with you once you have been convinced that I am legitimate. All that I ask is that you stop the accusations on my thread once it has been established that I am legitimate. I'm just asking you to give me a chance here.
Stop the accusations to buy you more time? Hopefully scare off less potential victims?
Since when does a vendor sell lbs on SR for $1800 when you can get twice that locally in some parts of Cali?
Since NEVER. Scam.
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another thread bout PE FE scam and shit...
haha
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=203134.0
haha
cyberscour thinks--
He's not a scammer. He's a new vendor that is bending over backwards to give you great prices.
You want to know why most people will have to FE nowadays more than ever?
Teenagers are all over the road due to recent publicity and Tumblr. Be grateful the registration wasn't closed...
funny thing, he thinks it because he ordered and FEed....but didnt receive shit as it seems ...
Seems really sketchy to be honest, his feedback is completely full of people that are willing to FE. Although apparently he is not requesting people with high purchasing stats to FE so maybe it is legit, but the person who posted that ordered an enormous amount of LSD (1k hits), so it could be part of his scam. We will findout soon.
I've ordered from him. I also FE'd even though I have over 500$ spent here. I did it out of respect for great fucking prices. 16$ for a 1/8th of mushrooms is GREAT for a domestic order.
Alright enough of that
I am with Praetorian - good luck finding out the hard way folks
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I sincerely hope he follows through. He would get the most glowing review from me, honestly.
I've picked up 1,000 hits locally for a similar price to what I just paid him, so it's certainly REASONABLE that he could post it at that price, make a much smaller profit - then just have a decent customer base because of a ton of stellar orders.
My hopes just aren't high. I'm not worried that I'll lose my money - either I'll get my order, be elated - and be a repeat customer.
Or he'll run off, SR will return my money from escrow - and I'll only have wasted my time.
He tells me my order will be here Wednesday, so I don't have too long to wait to see what's up.
Listen, insisting that you'll give him a good review is not going to make him send you something if he has nothing to send, and no intent to send it -to begin with.
I know everyone likes to hope that the "too good to be true" prices are "true" but, sadly, they're not.
Everyone on SR would give this guy "an outstanding review" if he "came through" with Lbs for 1/2 price, and sheets for $200, and roxies for $15 each. But that's all just very unrealistic.
What's he telling you? This is promotional price? That the prices will come up soon? Is that why he's adding more and more under-priced listings in EVERY category?
So this ONE guy knows where to get EVERY drug cheap enough to completely UNDERCUT everyone on SR?
Doubt it.
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another thread bout PE FE scam and shit...
haha
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=203134.0
haha
cyberscour thinks--
He's not a scammer. He's a new vendor that is bending over backwards to give you great prices.
You want to know why most people will have to FE nowadays more than ever?
Teenagers are all over the road due to recent publicity and Tumblr. Be grateful the registration wasn't closed...
funny thing, he thinks it because he ordered and FEed....but didnt receive shit as it seems ...
Seems really sketchy to be honest, his feedback is completely full of people that are willing to FE. Although apparently he is not requesting people with high purchasing stats to FE so maybe it is legit, but the person who posted that ordered an enormous amount of LSD (1k hits), so it could be part of his scam. We will findout soon.
I've ordered from him. I also FE'd even though I have over 500$ spent here. I did it out of respect for great fucking prices. 16$ for a 1/8th of mushrooms is GREAT for a domestic order.
Alright enough of that
I am with Praetorian - good luck finding out the hard way folks
Didn't know he was scamming now. I FE'd for his 6-APB sample, and received it.
Guess he is a scamming jackass.
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I sincerely hope he follows through. He would get the most glowing review from me, honestly.
I've picked up 1,000 hits locally for a similar price to what I just paid him, so it's certainly REASONABLE that he could post it at that price, make a much smaller profit - then just have a decent customer base because of a ton of stellar orders.
My hopes just aren't high. I'm not worried that I'll lose my money - either I'll get my order, be elated - and be a repeat customer.
Or he'll run off, SR will return my money from escrow - and I'll only have wasted my time.
He tells me my order will be here Wednesday, so I don't have too long to wait to see what's up.
Listen, insisting that you'll give him a good review is not going to make him send you something if he has nothing to send, and no intent to send it -to begin with.
I know everyone likes to hope that the "too good to be true" prices are "true" but, sadly, they're not.
Everyone on SR would give this guy "an outstanding review" if he "came through" with Lbs for 1/2 price, and sheets for $200, and roxies for $15 each. But that's all just very unrealistic.
What's he telling you? This is promotional price? That the prices will come up soon? Is that why he's adding more and more under-priced listings in EVERY category?
So this ONE guy knows where to get EVERY drug cheap enough to completely UNDERCUT everyone on SR?
Doubt it.
Actually, a lot of vendors offer their supplies for VERY VERY cheap when they first join. So far I've gotten a gram of MDMA for 25$, .5g speed paste and .5g MDMA for 1$, 5g of AAA weed for 25$, and lastly 4 oxycodones for 20$, and they ALL arrived.
New vendors win publicity and reputation by undercutting everyone and selling at a loss for a little bit. It's called competition. The prices can be too good to be true sometimes, but that doesn't mean that all vendors are out to scam you. And I gave him a very nice review because I got his 6-APB cheap, and it was great quality and pure.
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I sincerely hope he follows through. He would get the most glowing review from me, honestly.
I've picked up 1,000 hits locally for a similar price to what I just paid him, so it's certainly REASONABLE that he could post it at that price, make a much smaller profit - then just have a decent customer base because of a ton of stellar orders.
My hopes just aren't high. I'm not worried that I'll lose my money - either I'll get my order, be elated - and be a repeat customer.
Or he'll run off, SR will return my money from escrow - and I'll only have wasted my time.
He tells me my order will be here Wednesday, so I don't have too long to wait to see what's up.
Listen, insisting that you'll give him a good review is not going to make him send you something if he has nothing to send, and no intent to send it -to begin with.
I know everyone likes to hope that the "too good to be true" prices are "true" but, sadly, they're not.
Everyone on SR would give this guy "an outstanding review" if he "came through" with Lbs for 1/2 price, and sheets for $200, and roxies for $15 each. But that's all just very unrealistic.
What's he telling you? This is promotional price? That the prices will come up soon? Is that why he's adding more and more under-priced listings in EVERY category?
So this ONE guy knows where to get EVERY drug cheap enough to completely UNDERCUT everyone on SR?
Doubt it.
Actually, a lot of vendors offer their supplies for VERY VERY cheap when they first join. So far I've gotten a gram of MDMA for 25$, .5g speed paste and .5g MDMA for 1$, 5g of AAA weed for 25$, and lastly 4 oxycodones for 20$, and they ALL arrived.
New vendors win publicity and reputation by undercutting everyone and selling at a loss for a little bit. It's called competition. The prices can be too good to be true sometimes, but that doesn't mean that all vendors are out to scam you. And I gave him a very nice review because I got his 6-APB cheap, and it was great quality and pure.
Yes, but you're failing to make mention of the near-unlimited number of possible items per listing. And the fact that he is not offering these as "special promotional prices" on certain items, but is undercutting every other price on all of his listings across the board by 50%. He has not began raising the prices.
Don't vouch for a scammer just because you received a couple morsels of 6-APB through a listing.
Uniwiz got 2 lbs of trim for dirt cheap off The Top Shelf, vouched, and then all TTS's FE'd got fucked base on Uni's word. Don't be a Uniwiz.
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i understand everyone's reluctance to trust him after he pulled the FE stunt. he told me today that he shipped my order and that the asking everyone to FE was a general demand since he was getting so many orders but that i wouldn't need to FE. My policy since tony76 from last year has been to never finalize early even with vendors who i have dealt with on so many occasions unless they ask me nicely because too much of their funds are tied up. as long as people do not FE EVER then there shouln't be a problem but we all know that is not going to happen. I will wait for Wednesday to roll around to know for sure what the full story is. I feel bad about all the people who FE'd and are nervous about what will happen. at the very lleast it would just be a reminder to everyone who is not new to SR to never FE. I have noticed that he is still around talking on the forums and checking out his vendor page. I'm torn between expecting what i put into escrow and the lot who are screaming scammer. my personal thoughts on being a newb and having to FE because of that are to just go to a well established vendor(s) and put in enough orders to get out of newb purgatory. talking to him on the main page, he does seem legitimate and a nice guy but i also don't want to use my "clout" and have newbies think its ok to FE with him. i feel strongly that we will all get our orders from him but i will be really upset if saying something like that comes back to bite us.
Only thing i can suggest going forward is to be patient, people who put in orders already. and do not FE until others start receiving their orders. sorry for the rant folks but in my head hes alright. maybe not in terms of how he went about this but hes new and im sure he'll get the hang of it soon. everyone be safe
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i understand everyone's reluctance to trust him after he pulled the FE stunt. he told me today that he shipped my order and that the asking everyone to FE was a general demand since he was getting so many orders but that i wouldn't need to FE. My policy since tony76 from last year has been to never finalize early even with vendors who i have dealt with on so many occasions unless they ask me nicely because too much of their funds are tied up. as long as people do not FE EVER then there shouln't be a problem but we all know that is not going to happen. I will wait for Wednesday to roll around to know for sure what the full story is. I feel bad about all the people who FE'd and are nervous about what will happen. at the very lleast it would just be a reminder to everyone who is not new to SR to never FE. I have noticed that he is still around talking on the forums and checking out his vendor page. I'm torn between expecting what i put into escrow and the lot who are screaming scammer. my personal thoughts on being a newb and having to FE because of that are to just go to a well established vendor(s) and put in enough orders to get out of newb purgatory. talking to him on the main page, he does seem legitimate and a nice guy but i also don't want to use my "clout" and have newbies think its ok to FE with him. i feel strongly that we will all get our orders from him but i will be really upset if saying something like that comes back to bite us.
Only thing i can suggest going forward is to be patient, people who put in orders already. and do not FE until others start receiving their orders. sorry for the rant folks but in my head hes alright. maybe not in terms of how he went about this but hes new and im sure he'll get the hang of it soon. everyone be safe
What did you order? 5 sheets?
The last few times a mass scammer came around(Synaptic, The Top Shelf, etc) they employed these same tactics though. They will fulfill a handful of orders for vets to keep the argument going in their favor, while still demanding nothing but FE's from the other 120 some people, til more and more just pile up into the wreckage.
I have not ordered from this vendor. When I saw the 5 sheets for $1050, I thought "Wow, what a steal" ... At THAT point there was no mention of FE in his Profile, nor Listings(Still has not mentioned it), and there were no FE's in his feedback.
That was 2 days ago...
FE's began coming in from people saying they were new, and THATS why they "had" to FE. Yet, this schmuck posts THIS VERY THREAD in the NEWBIES section? Come on. You're telling 'Newbs(fish)' they can buy off you, with super-low pricing(bait), and then you tell them they HAVE(hook) to FE before you'll ship BECAUSE THEYRE NEW??!
Jesus fucking Christ...
Not to mention he seems to have 'unlimited' resources. Just add anything of his into cart, and you will see far more of each listing than possible.
If you have NOT ordered. DO NOT ORDER. At least not until the majority of the some 112 Early Finalizations form the last 56 hours come forward having received something. This is absurd.
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this was a post from ETM back in February http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45270.4680 you can read the next few pages and shows how he conned people until he split...
30 days later went rouge and walk away with Tens of thousands!......and SR got their 10% and ETM got rich....and the cycle continues.
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interesting stuff
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Damn I hope for all those that FE'd that he isn't scamming. But it surely looks way off...
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I Google image searched his bud pic. It pops up in a couple dispensaries ads on weed maps.com same bud, same black leather background, even the little crumb on the right is there. If you download the pic from his listing, go to Google on a different comp or however you roll, then search by image, uploading planetexpress's pic when. It asks you to, the first result under visually similar images is the the one I'm talking about. the top and bottom of the image is cut off, so you have to choose to go to the original page, find the pic in question, and click on it to expand it. then you will see it in its full glory.
I have to admit, I'm one of the stupid fucks who ordered first and used reason and logic second. I noticed a crap ton of "Fe as requested" feedback right before I ordered, so I did have the presence of mind to I told him in the address box that if he was going to ask someone with over 8k spent in 60 transactions, 0% auto f, 1% ($50) refund to FE, then he could fuck right off and cancel my order. it sucks to have my money tied up, and hey, you never know, miracles can & do happen, put this would be on the level of Jesus tap dancing across the fucking pacific for one entity to have access to all those drugs, in those quantities @ those prices..... And he needs folks with a $17 order to fe?
PE, if, in fact you are drug Jesus, I'd like to apply to be a disciple. I'll blindly follow you and absolve myself of all earthly possessions. If, like the other Jesus, you're a fucking scam, I hope you die from an overdose or other drug related death, preferably with drugs you bought with btc earned from scamming here. Poetic, I know. I'm a romantic at heart.
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I agree with a lot of the comments that he is selling half-pounds of weed for impossible prices... but also remember another vendor who sold roxy's for literally half-price when they first began selling... Anywho, I haven't finalized my order yet and will let ya'll know if it shows up. If not, then I guess my buyer stats will take a hit as I get my money back.
Right now I'm about 75% sure it's a scam. but if not, then "Good News Everyone!"
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Bumping up..
For Pete's sake people stop FE'ing. There is another whole page overnight..
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Right now I'm about 75% sure it's a scam. but if not, then "Good News Everyone!"
what a joke....I sure he is 25 % legit....i better not call him a scammer beacuse he may not send my product...i better suck on his cock because he may not send my product...if i say nice things he will send mine but fuck the others...I can feel he loves me and will send my drugs....Oh please Mr PE i love you, please send me my drugs.....you can fuck the others but not me...Im a good guy. I trust you so much and believe you will do the right thing by me...
amazing....a monkey puts his hand in a jar and grabs a shiny quarter and wont let go, even when hunters are coming....greed....that little voice in our head that convinces us to go for it .....and to believe its going to be alright.. ;D
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If you bought product with me you can be assured that you will get it at a fair price and what was ordered.
see you soon
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bump, more people need to see this, he is a scammer.
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My small part in this mounting scandal ha....Ordered a point of tar got it when it was super cheap (low something like .095 BTC) early last week. At that time he only had USPS for shipping options but I am north of the border. FE'd upon request, (since it was only .095 BTC after all, but maybe still not smart..). Anyways, noticed later he now had shipping for outside us for almost .04 bitcoins more than I paid. Msg'd PE to see if this causes me a prob, and admin promptly replied that he wasn't concerned about a few dollars....All communication pleasant thus far. Let's see how it plays out this week....I have a feeling this will either all go really well, or really bad :-| !
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SCAM
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It's so painfully obvious that this is an enormous scam. Just glance at the pages and pages of peopling FE'ing. And Roxy for $15 on the road? Really?
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don't fucking FE
don't fucking FE
don't fucking FE
EVER.
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Repeat after me...
When I finalize early, I encourage more scams on Silk Road.
When I finalize early, I encourage more scams on Silk Road.
When I finalize early, I encourage more scams on Silk Road.
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One of you guys that got scammed should update your feedback on his page telling others not to order. Dude is up to like 13 pages of FE and still going strong. It's not even a question at this point, 100% scammer.
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I am getting fuckin wild watching this go down...Seriously...I know its their own fault for finalizing early but shit. There has to be a way, any way to stop this sort of shit. He is going to be sitting at home laughing his fucking ass off the dog mutt cunt!!
Last few orders all FE are
- 1 oz High grade bullshit
- 1/2 lb High grade fuckwit
- 3.5g coke 80% pure!
They NEED to suspend his account...He is a 'MONTH' old vendor and with a quick scam he is gonna walk away with 10-20 grand... That is going to show how easy it is to rip people on Silk Road... Allowing this to happen is just going to bring more scammers smh...
Seriously stop this sob before more good people are out of coin. Its a joke how easy it is to pull a fast one on here and chances are he will just set up another vendors account and do it again.
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I am getting fuckin wild watching this go down...Seriously...I know its their own fault for finalizing early but shit. There has to be a way, any way to stop this sort of shit. He is going to be sitting at home laughing his fucking ass off the dog mutt cunt!!
Last few orders all FE are
- 1 oz High grade bullshit
- 1/2 lb High grade fuckwit
- 3.5g coke 80% pure!
They NEED to suspend his account...He is a 'MONTH' old vendor and with a quick scam he is gonna walk away with 10-20 grand... That is going to show how easy it is to rip people on Silk Road... Allowing this to happen is just going to bring more scammers smh...
Seriously stop this sob before more good people are out of coin. Its a joke how easy it is to pull a fast one on here and chances are he will just set up another vendors account and do it again.
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I was going to order an 8ball from PE but after seeing all this yesterday, I sent him a message asking him do i have to FE eventhough I spent alot of loot on SR just to see what he says. of course he hasnt replied yet. I cant fuck with him.
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I guess you really shouldnt FE
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lol bet this is goldmax or some shit under a new name
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I find it sus they had 53 orders in 17days then 150 in the last 3 all FEing too hard having a legit vendor account i guess they figured
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Disappointing to see another scam on the Road. At least people know now.
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Disappointing to see another scam on the Road. At least people know now.
Not enough people know. Not everyone comes on the forum...Im really considering buying his cheapest listing just so I can direct people to this thread in the feedback section on his page...I 'WOULD' do that but I dont wanna give a single fuckin cent of my hard earned to this prick...
'IF SOMEONE HAS ANYTHING TO SPARE BUY A SINGLE PILL AND PUT THIS LINK IN THE FEEDBACK'
Even though I didnt buy anything of this guy I am fucking furious about this...Anyone who is backing him in the hopes that their shit will arrive is a fool...
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PE, If I could find you id make you my bitch you fuckin mutt...Go die!
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Not enough people know. Not everyone comes on the forum...Im really considering buying his cheapest listing just so I can direct people to this thread in the feedback section on his page...I 'WOULD' do that but I dont wanna give a single fuckin cent of my hard earned to this prick...
'IF SOMEONE HAS ANYTHING TO SPARE BUY A SINGLE PILL AND PUT THIS LINK IN THE FEEDBACK'
That is kind of a good idea though
But nobody needs to buy shit, just some guys who already did FE need to read this and then alter their feedback and post the link and something like scammer and so on
so if anybody who has already finalised reads this-please do so
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Scam 8) weirdscience comes to mind ;D again.
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Scam 8) weirdscience comes to mind ;D again.
Exactly. And Synaptic. And EJDirect. And every other alias that has employed these identical tactics and listing styles.
Let's break this down by everything that smells like a scam, one step at a time... then see how you feel:
1. Vendor puts zero effort into their Forums account, posts a review/promo thread in the Newbies Section(this thread) of the Forums. (baiting)
2. Vendor posts up listings at 1/2 the prices of the next-cheapest vendor in every category, making no mention of a 'need' or 'requirement' to FE in neither their Vendor Profile, nor their Listings. (baiting)
3. Contradictory to 1. Vendor gets orders, but then tells buyers they need to FE before he'll ship their order, because they have "low stats" or because they are "too new" ... (clearly he baited in buyers, specifically newbie buyers with cheap listings and NO mention of FE before any buyer made their purchase - buyer/escrow trap)
4. Some buyers want to cancel their order, and instead of doing so Vendor takes his dear sweet time responding, only to promise them they will receive "extra" if they don't cancel, and just FE ... (employs an 'impatience' PsyOp, followed by feeding their greed with empty promises)
5. Flooding in feedback of people apparently vouching for the vendor's truthworthiness and promotion of the communities "willingness to FE" by example whilst not a single person who HAS 'FE'd has come forward saying that this silly action paid off. Despite feedback that would lead anyone to believe that people have FE'd and received several times in the past (going by the willy nilly-ness of the feedback comments)
6. After a lot of hype surrounding the FE's and feedback legitimacy, the vendor posts bulk MMJ listings at an unheard of price:quality ratio worth thousands of dollars. (last stitch effort to do damage to the community when reputation is already in question)
Does this sound like I'm talking about PlanetExpress? Because I'm talking about Synaptic. Verbatim.
DO NOT BUY!
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So, I went ahead and added up PlanetExpress's Total $ amount in Early Finalizations(none of which have updated, or been received mind you):
5 x $376 - 1 Sheet of Acid Listings @ $1880
2 x $185 - 3.5g Ketamine Listings @ $370
2 x $76 - 1g Ketamine Listings @ $152
1 x $217 - 3.5g Meth Listing @ $217
1 x $61 - 1g Meth Listing @ $61
3 x $115 - 1oz Shroom Listing @ $345
1 x $1876 - 1lb High Grabe MMJ Listing @ $1876
1 x $999 - 1/2lb High Grade MMJ Listing @ $999
3 x $163 - 1oz HG MMJ Listings @ $489
2 x $98 - 1/2oz HG MMJ Listings @ $196
12 x $217 - 1/2 Sheet of Acid Listings @ $2604
3 x $648 - 14g Cocaine Listings @ $1944
6 x $217 - 3.5g Cocaine Listings @ $1302
8 x $76 - 1g Cocaine Listings @ $608
3 x $286 - 3.5g BTH Listings @ $858
4 x $98 - 1g BTH Listings @ $392
42 x $15 - 30MG Roxy Listings @ $630(and how many people bought JUST one... ::) )
1 x $444 - 30G 6-APB Listing @ $444
1 x $195 - 10G 6-APB Listing @ $195
14 x $16 - 3.5G Shrooms Listings @ $224
21 x $17 - 0.1G BTH Listings @ $357
15 x $22 - 1G 6-APB Listings @ $330
12 x $11 - .5G 6-APB Listings @ $130
22 x $5 - 20MG Adderall Ir Listings @$110(Again, I'm sure no one bought JUST one...)
FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF: $16,713.00 (Not counting MULTIPLES of each Listing).
Good Job everyone. Another Rich Scammer...
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Everyone go report this ass hole. Got Damn $16k....
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It's surreal to watch pages of FE show up everytime I check in online ..
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every one of you who FE's are fucking MORONS!
a bunch of assholes you deserve what you get......fuck you. I'm glad PE fucked you all...bunch of whining assholes All you FE'ers thought you would get your shit....now everyones drop point i added th LE data base and maybe not today. but in a feww weeks, month....the knock ont the door will open
your wife, kids, friends, coworkers, mom . dad....and everything you come to love will all be flushed down the toilet as you sit disgraced in a cell....was sit worth a few bucks!
WAKE UP ASSHOLES this is SR a drug market...not Walgreen's use your fucking common sense..... ONLY USE KNOW A TRUSTED MEMBERS!!!!!
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every one of you who FE's are fucking MORONS!
a bunch of assholes you deserve what you get......fuck you. I'm glad PE fucked you all...bunch of whining assholes All you FE'ers thought you would get your shit....now everyones drop point i added th LE data base and maybe not today. but in a feww weeks, month....the knock ont the door will open
your wife, kids, friends, coworkers, mom . dad....and everything you come to love will all be flushed down the toilet as you sit disgraced in a cell....was sit worth a few bucks!
WAKE UP ASSHOLES this is SR a drug market...not Walgreen's use your fucking common sense..... ONLY USE KNOW A TRUSTED MEMBERS!!!!!
Shit man, get a grip. Take your time over those keys.
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Thank God for whoever left this feedback and brought me here, or else I probably would of FE'd if asked. I take my hat off to you.
"FE'd by mistake after I said I wasn't going to. Pissed at myself but fortunately it's only $75 that was left over from a larger order so I can afford to lose it. Not everyone will be so lucky!
This vendor is a scammer and requires FE for everyone. He lists products at absurdly low prices and has a seemingly infinite range and supply of products because the vendor plans to send nothing.
Please see this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=190903.195"
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every one of you who FE's are fucking MORONS!
a bunch of assholes you deserve what you get......fuck you. I'm glad PE fucked you all...bunch of whining assholes All you FE'ers thought you would get your shit....now everyones drop point i added th LE data base and maybe not today. but in a feww weeks, month....the knock ont the door will open
your wife, kids, friends, coworkers, mom . dad....and everything you come to love will all be flushed down the toilet as you sit disgraced in a cell....was sit worth a few bucks!
WAKE UP ASSHOLES this is SR a drug market...not Walgreen's use your fucking common sense..... ONLY USE KNOW A TRUSTED MEMBERS!!!!!
Damn bro you ok?
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worthless scumbag I am going to kill him with my mind
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Thank God for whoever left this feedback and brought me here, or else I probably would of FE'd if asked. I take my hat off to you.
"FE'd by mistake after I said I wasn't going to. Pissed at myself but fortunately it's only $75 that was left over from a larger order so I can afford to lose it. Not everyone will be so lucky!
This vendor is a scammer and requires FE for everyone. He lists products at absurdly low prices and has a seemingly infinite range and supply of products because the vendor plans to send nothing.
Please see this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=190903.195"
Glad I could help someone.
I received this message in response:
Hey sorry that you finalized early and are of the opinion that I am a scammer. I will send the money from your order back to your account to hold onto until you receive the product in good faith. I just ask that you change your feedback to 5/5 and something less hostile before judging so quickly.
Best,
PlanetExpress
So I said this:
Ok. That would be fair. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I've seen a number of accounts come through here, generate some positive feedback, and then offer a wide variety and a seemingly impossibly low price while asking everyone to FE based on the positive feedback already created, just to run off with the money. These scams are common.
If the BTC is refunded to my account, I will temporarily redact my 1/5 feedback and give an honest review if/when the product arrives.
However, I will be leaving a link to the thread. I believe buyers should have all information available to them when making a purchase, and a great many probably never visit the forums. The thread is rather hostile, but you had to expect that when you started asking everyone to FE. Escrow protects buyers AND vendors, and the star vendors here are the ones who use it. Just my 0.02 worth.
boomer
I can't leave such hostile feedback if I personally haven't been scammed (i.e. if the BTC is returned to my account) but I'm not going to be made a fool if PE sends my order to get me to vouch for him and then robs everyone else. My opinion of this vendor will be based on the feedback of others, not solely my experience.
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Just received this message:-
"Thank you for your order. It is ready to be shipped out Monday morning. If you could please finalize early it would help me greatly in cashing out my bitcoins and restocking my inventory quickly.
Best,
Planet Express"
Flipping ready to be shipped out next Monday morning?
Should I FE guys? Any advise? Is PE a confirmed scammer?
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That's the stock message he's been sending everyone...
Don't finalize early. Ask him to cancel the order if he will not allow you to remain in escrow.
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Aw, so I guess this guy is just a little bit too good to be true. :(
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sounds good,have to take a peep,lol
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Right, cheers again boomer.
I feel bad in a way not FE'ing, I mean the guy could be legit.
I simply cannot afford what appears to be a gamble now though, especially with all this doubt of legitimacy.
Currently reading all of this thread try and gather more.
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Its incredibly seedy, and I'm not sure if SR's rules even permit him asking everyone in messages to FE without having anything on his profile page.I was under the impression new vendors couldn't ask for FE until they were here for a few months.
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I have never had to give a vendor a 1 out of 5 but since reading the forums...I am changing my FE 5 out of 5 to a 1 out of 5 unless the vendor comes through with my order. Hopefully we're not all fukked but I've been fukked before on SR and will never FE for a vendor as my stats are legit.
Member for: 10 months
1 month 3 months 1 year all time
total transactions 5 8 65 65
total spent ฿18.3600 ฿27.1370 ฿849.2900 ฿849.2900
refund rate 0% 0% 0% 0%
auto-finalize rate 0% 0% 0% 0%
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So, I went ahead and added up PlanetExpress's Total $ amount in Early Finalizations(none of which have updated, or been received mind you):
5 x $376 - 1 Sheet of Acid Listings @ $1880
2 x $185 - 3.5g Ketamine Listings @ $370
2 x $76 - 1g Ketamine Listings @ $152
1 x $217 - 3.5g Meth Listing @ $217
1 x $61 - 1g Meth Listing @ $61
3 x $115 - 1oz Shroom Listing @ $345
1 x $1876 - 1lb High Grabe MMJ Listing @ $1876
1 x $999 - 1/2lb High Grade MMJ Listing @ $999
3 x $163 - 1oz HG MMJ Listings @ $489
2 x $98 - 1/2oz HG MMJ Listings @ $196
12 x $217 - 1/2 Sheet of Acid Listings @ $2604
3 x $648 - 14g Cocaine Listings @ $1944
6 x $217 - 3.5g Cocaine Listings @ $1302
8 x $76 - 1g Cocaine Listings @ $608
3 x $286 - 3.5g BTH Listings @ $858
4 x $98 - 1g BTH Listings @ $392
42 x $15 - 30MG Roxy Listings @ $630(and how many people bought JUST one... ::) )
1 x $444 - 30G 6-APB Listing @ $444
1 x $195 - 10G 6-APB Listing @ $195
14 x $16 - 3.5G Shrooms Listings @ $224
21 x $17 - 0.1G BTH Listings @ $357
15 x $22 - 1G 6-APB Listings @ $330
12 x $11 - .5G 6-APB Listings @ $130
22 x $5 - 20MG Adderall Ir Listings @$110(Again, I'm sure no one bought JUST one...)
FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF: $16,713.00 (Not counting MULTIPLES of each Listing).
Good Job everyone. Another Rich Scammer...
WOWZERS 16k!! Damn ive been watching this unfold for days now, and people should of recieved items today, supposedly items were to be sent by saturday which means many people would of received on monday with priority. I did a similar add up myself a couple night ago before he listed all the lbs of bud and stuff and he was at $2500. Damn Prae I know that took an hour or more to compile that info good work buddy +1 and you know people didnt just order one roxy or one addy at those prices. I was lucky enough when i went to check out there were only a few roxys left so i got what i could. Later a 1000 of them appeared, I would of purchased at least 20 if they were available at the time. Now my money is tied up Can anyone confirm getting anything yet, or is it now he is shipping today to push off a few days and keep the orders rolling in or the FE i should say
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fuck me,i feel for you lads if you have been burnt,are they all early finalisations?
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fuck me,i feel for you lads if you have been burnt,are they all early finalisations?
Yes they are ALL early finalization because he makes "new buyers" finalize early. His definition of a new buyer is someone who has not done 5 transactions with HIM! He has been a vendor for 1 month that is impossible.
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT ORDER WITH HIM HE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND YOU WILL GET NOTHING UNLESS HE SENDS YOU A LETTER IN THE MAIL TELLING YOU HOW DUMB YOU ARE FOR FINALIZING.
it is not your guys fault for finalizing early, he is a scammer and silk road staff should have solved this problem already they need to get these scammers out of here. NOW!
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People are still FE'ing with in the last hour. What the actual fuck? Stop it, seriously. Don't feed the bears.
And now there's loads of crystal meth listed that wasn't there before.
Jesus.
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I was so close to giving this guy over $600 thanks so so much for this if I have no meds I have pain that would just suck !
GF
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People are still FE'ing with in the last hour. What the actual fuck? Stop it, seriously. Don't feed the bears.
And now there's loads of crystal meth listed that wasn't there before.
Jesus.
I see that too, we cannot be sure how many of those reviews are real though, i know he posted the review saying something like " thank you so much for sending my order this is the 5th or 6th order ive made".
please everyone go to his vendor page and report him before he steals anymore money, i submitted a detailed report but he is still up and running.
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People are still FE'ing with in the last hour. What the actual fuck? Stop it, seriously. Don't feed the bears.
And now there's loads of crystal meth listed that wasn't there before.
Jesus.
I see that too, we cannot be sure how many of those reviews are real though, i know he posted the review saying something like " thank you so much for sending my order this is the 5th or 6th order ive made".
please everyone go to his vendor page and report him before he steals anymore money, i submitted a detailed report but he is still up and running.
Can SR admins look at the previous purchases of the users FEing for PE lately??
If they all are new buyers or only have 1 or 2 purchases, that is more evidence that PE is creating user accounts to pad his stats which is explicitly against the rules.
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so this human vagina has disappeared from his own forum thread? i really wanted to give him a chance even though i should have know better. what i don't understand is how people are still FE'ing with him and no one from SR seems to be stopping it. I placed an order with him more than a week ago, refused to FE when he asked, then he told me he sent it and i should expect it by wednesday(which i don't understand why it would take so long). its disheartening that DPR and site admins continue to allow this type of stuff to continue to happen. i can go back to posts of mine from last feb. or march(2012) where this same scheme was occurring. as has been mentioned before(by me and i know some others), all that FE money should go into a separate account that can only be accessed by some SR affiliated person. whatever i guess. ill get my $ back because i didn't FE but its a shame so many people got took. mercy DPR :'(
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every one of you who FE's are fucking MORONS!
a bunch of assholes you deserve what you get......fuck you. I'm glad PE fucked you all...bunch of whining assholes All you FE'ers thought you would get your shit....now everyones drop point i added th LE data base and maybe not today. but in a feww weeks, month....the knock ont the door will open
your wife, kids, friends, coworkers, mom . dad....and everything you come to love will all be flushed down the toilet as you sit disgraced in a cell....was sit worth a few bucks!
WAKE UP ASSHOLES this is SR a drug market...not Walgreen's use your fucking common sense..... ONLY USE KNOW A TRUSTED MEMBERS!!!!!
Damn bro you ok?
yeah I'm OK sorry i was really high and mad at PE.
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So many people still Fe'ing...this needs to be stopped, and should have been already!
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PlanetExpress is a Fuckin coward, I got money tied up because I ordered when he didn't have all these make believe ass listings and it seemed legit. I told him to cancel my order and he said he will send it anyways. NO.. CANCEL MY ORDER. Im not gonna FE and im not gonna let it auto finalize. And how do you get 3000+ same brand roxies at once you would have to rob a pharmacy. Nobody is getting anything from this guy and if you FE'd you lost your money.
Planet. Seriously just start canceling the orders to people who asked for it.
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People who are still FE almost deserve it at this point. At least everyone is calling him out on the new "discuss" feature on his page. Maybe a few people will see that and not order, cause they sure as shit don't check the forums apparently.
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My friend and I ordered roxys when I saw the too good to be true price ($.50/mg!? Wow prices as they SHOULD be!). I noticed all of the reviews said "FE" and got a bad feeling, but ordered anyways. He asked me to FE and I refused - I've been on SR for almost 2 yrs and haven't FE'd once, and I don't intend to start now. He marked it in transit but we'll see... I doubt anything shows up.
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By marking your orders in transit and not canceling, and he hoping that YOU will 'hope' a little yourself, to buy himself more time. I bet his orders aren't hedged are they? Why would they be? Good thing coin has gone up a little, and not down...
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Wow, I feel so stupid now. I wish I had seen this before I FE'd this morning. His price for what I wanted was almost half of the next best price, but still high compared to local price, so I went ahead and placed my order. He responded quickly and asked me to FE since I was new. Because I am new and have no feedback, I thought that was normal, so I did.
I knew I should have done some research first. I was just too anxious since I have yet to have a successful order (5 total)
Guess I can kiss that BTC goodbye. Learning experience I guess. :/
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Damn dude how are your first 5 transactions unsuccessful? Did you FE on all of them and not receive anything? Just only order from vendors with really high ratings and have been around for a while. Don't let pieces of shit like him make you think that this is common, at least 95% of vendors are legit. And don't FE again since you now have 5 transactions.
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So has anyone reported this guy to get his account suspended? I placed an order but refused to FE...of course I haven't received anything, so at this point I'd just like my BTCs back. I've messaged him to please cancel my order but doubt he will do that and hope to avoid resolution, so hopefully SR will shut down the account and refund any money he has in escrow.
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Wow, I feel so stupid now. I wish I had seen this before I FE'd this morning. His price for what I wanted was almost half of the next best price, but still high compared to local price, so I went ahead and placed my order. He responded quickly and asked me to FE since I was new. Because I am new and have no feedback, I thought that was normal, so I did.
I knew I should have done some research first. I was just too anxious since I have yet to have a successful order (5 total)
Guess I can kiss that BTC goodbye. Learning experience I guess. :/
Let me help you. What is your DoC(Drug of Choice)? I will point you in the right direction, and even have some words from one of my highly respected 2+ yr buyer accounts of which just about every long-term vendors knows.
Anything I can do. This is not how SR is supposed to be!
So has anyone reported this guy to get his account suspended? I placed an order but refused to FE...of course I haven't received anything, so at this point I'd just like my BTCs back. I've messaged him to please cancel my order but doubt he will do that and hope to avoid resolution, so hopefully SR will shut down the account and refund any money he has in escrow.
Several times, it's 'too soon' for a lot of his orders to claim he never sent anything. And SR isn't fond of people FEing, so, usually when you do, and then bitch and moan... they kind of treat you like an idiot. :(
Do you remember if the listing was hedged or unhedged?
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So all the so-called "feedback" on PE's vendor page today, Monday, is from FE's and NO ONE FB from people who reported receiving their package! NO ONE who ordered last week has actually reported getting what they order, yet pages of people keep ordering and FEing? If PE shipped on wed or thurs like he claimed to, of course people would have gotten their stuff by now by priority, and it's Monday and Not ONE PERSON has reported their package? What is even more distubring is people are writing in their FB stuff like "FEing for a trusted vendor" or "FE based on good reviews" WTF? Can't they tell all the feedback is from people who FE, haven't got their product, and probably never will??
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This is a very interesting thread!
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<<So all the so-called "feedback" on PE's vendor page today, Monday, is from FE's and NO ONE FB from people who reported receiving their package! NO ONE who ordered last week has actually reported getting what they order, yet pages of people keep ordering and FEing? If PE shipped on wed or thurs like he claimed to, of course people would have gotten their stuff by now by priority, and it's Monday and Not ONE PERSON has reported their package? What is even more distubring is people are writing in their FB stuff like "FEing for a trusted vendor" or "FE based on good reviews" WTF? Can't they tell all the feedback is from people who FE, haven't got their product, and probably never will?? >>
Apart from the personal grief of all the people who have lost money, I am concerned with the administration of this site. Whoever is in charge needs to read this thread and at least communicate with PlanetExpress or, preferably, to prevent him from receiving new orders until it is clear whether people who have placed orders are receiving them. It is negligence to just sit by while people are losing thousands of dollars. For anyone who has contacted the administrators, what exactly have they said? We will get more and more scammers as long as they are given a long leash here. In fact, we might get multiple scammers, each under a new vendor name.
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Apart from the personal grief of all the people who have lost money, I am concerned with the administration of this site. Whoever is in charge needs to read this thread and at least communicate with PlanetExpress or, preferably, to prevent him from receiving new orders until it is clear whether people who have placed orders are receiving them. It is negligence to just sit by while people are losing thousands of dollars. For anyone who has contacted the administrators, what exactly have they said? We will get more and more scammers as long as they are given a long leash here. In fact, we might get multiple scammers, each under a new vendor name.
Totally agree with you. Not ONLY as one of the afformentioned people who lost their money but as a pretty new buyer, I also feel like if the people in charge aren't going to do shit, why even do business here? As someone calculated earlier, PE's gotten over 16,000$, I wonder what it's at now and there's no end in sight. It looks like they found their cash cow and no one is planning on shutting it down anytime soon. On the other hand, why would they? They're getting 10% of all proceeds so it would appear they're going for money over their own trusting consumers. Don't know what to think anymore...
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I bet it's over 25k. That calculation was only only counting singles, can't tell if people bought 1 roxy or 72.
Haha he just left feedback for himself too -
"5/5 SERVICE ALL THE WAY AROUND! I FE FOR THIS TRUSTED SELLER!"
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I don't know about everybody else, but here's what I'm thinking... set up a vendor account, be legit for 1 month, and then fuck everyone over and make BANK.
I hate scammers.. but you know.. if you can't beat em, join em. I wouldn't mind having an extra 20 grand or so laying around.
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If he's so obviously ripping people off, then SR must be obliged to shut him down and repay anyone who is still in escrow?
The more time that is wasted, the more people are going to be conned out of their hard-earned coins.
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I hate scammers.. but you know.. if you can't beat em, join em. I wouldn't mind having an extra 20 grand or so laying around.
That's what I don't get about scammers. They must not have a steady supply. If so, why not be a good vendor and then get an extra 50 grand laying around?
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I don't know about everybody else, but here's what I'm thinking... set up a vendor account, be legit for 1 month, and then fuck everyone over and make BANK.
I hate scammers.. but you know.. if you can't beat em, join em. I wouldn't mind having an extra 20 grand or so laying around.
The sad thing is, since this has gone down, and probably especially those with money on the line... I'm sure several people in this thread have thought that very same thought already. It's disgustingly lucrative, apparently, and clearly we all know it will be at least a week before we get banned, even when it's obvious. ::)
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You know the saying , If it looks to good to be true, it probably is, Look at this guys prices, and the fact that he has an FE list the size of Texas, he is going to make bank on some new uneducated buyers ( NEVER EVER EVER FINALIZE EARLY) I hope this guy gets what is coming to him, I hate sorry ass people that prey on others, F U planet express!
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First off, How is he getting away with asking for FE when he has only been a vendor for a month, That in itself should raise a flag to most buyers , but I guess the newer people would not know this. I wish I could give that vendor a bit of Spocompton hospitality, anyway karma is a bitch , get whats coming panzy express.
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did anyone else notice the picture in this listing?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9de715faa5
it's like he was discretly saying "you are all dumb for FE" or something like that.
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Apart from the personal grief of all the people who have lost money, I am concerned with the administration of this site. Whoever is in charge needs to read this thread and at least communicate with PlanetExpress or, preferably, to prevent him from receiving new orders until it is clear whether people who have placed orders are receiving them. It is negligence to just sit by while people are losing thousands of dollars. For anyone who has contacted the administrators, what exactly have they said? We will get more and more scammers as long as they are given a long leash here. In fact, we might get multiple scammers, each under a new vendor name.
I am sure that SR must have some sort of "innocent until proven guilty" standard for sellers and that they must make it so they cannot halt a seller from receiving orders until it is reasonably determined that a scam has in fact occurred. As PE's "scam" orders are about a week old at the latest ( i am presuming he did some legit business before starting this FE scam approx a week ago) then it is still a plausible argument for PE to say in response to the admin's that the people will get the packages, everything is legit, shipping was delayed due to so many orders, USPS is late, blah blah. However, IF so many buyers and members are contacting the admins with their concerns, then shouldn't at least something be done, i.e. have they at least contacted PE with the concerns of the buyers? given him a warning about asking people to FE? If they haven't then, yes, you are right this opens the door to more scammers, and gives them a pretty nice blueprint of how to run a nice scam too.
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Ya, I did actually kind of get that vibe, I bet this is an ex vendor that has pulled this type of crap before, and is back for the (WHO KNOWS HOW MANY ) times, H e seems rather organized and methodical in his wording and listing style.
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His time is coming, It is just a matter of when, Hopefully sooner than later, I am personally pissed because he robbed a good friend of mine, but even without that being ,He is still a loser for robbing anyone period. and I say he but who knows it may be some vicious female too. I have known plenty of them in my days. :)
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did anyone else notice the picture in this listing?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9de715faa5
it's like he was discretly saying "you are all dumb for FE" or something like that.
Fuck that is too funny +1 for that catch
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Here is the correspondence from SR Support. I appreciate them responding, sorry guys I tried to see if he could be stopped and brought up the FE. For all the people that did not FE, save his messages and be thorough in resolution. I did not FE and he marked in-transit immediately after saying he would only ship after I FE. Unfortunately, this is the response I thought we were going to receive, I ordered exactly a week ago and will be going to resolution in 6 days. SEE MESSAGE BELOW:
SR Support We are unable to take action without having clear evidence that the vendor has broken the rules. Buyers choose to FE of their own accord and know the risk they are taking when doing so, however, we will monitor the situation and if the majority of orders don't arrive we will take appropriate action against the vendor in question.
Regarding your order, please see the following section of the SR Wiki:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#My_order_hasn.27t_arrived_or_it.27s_not_what_I_expected.
~SR Support
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Here is the correspondence from SR Support. I appreciate them responding, sorry guys I tried to see if he could be stopped and brought up the FE. For all the people that did not FE, save his messages and be thorough in resolution. I did not FE and he marked in-transit immediately after saying he would only ship after I FE. Unfortunately, this is the response I thought we were going to receive, I ordered exactly a week ago and will be going to resolution in 6 days. SEE MESSAGE BELOW:
SR Support We are unable to take action without having clear evidence that the vendor has broken the rules. Buyers choose to FE of their own accord and know the risk they are taking when doing so, however, we will monitor the situation and if the majority of orders don't arrive we will take appropriate action against the vendor in question.
Regarding your order, please see the following section of the SR Wiki:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#My_order_hasn.27t_arrived_or_it.27s_not_what_I_expected.
~SR Support
he broke the rules by requiring people to FE before he was a vendor for 1 month.
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It is only a matter of time now! They will get him, but unfortunately so will he get alot of people in the process.
P O S.
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Damn dude how are your first 5 transactions unsuccessful? Did you FE on all of them and not receive anything? Just only order from vendors with really high ratings and have been around for a while. Don't let pieces of shit like him make you think that this is common, at least 95% of vendors are legit. And don't FE again since you now have 5 transactions.
Well the first couple were on BMR when I thought SilkRoad was down. The first 2 orders just sat there in processing and I never heard back from the vendors so I opened escrow dispute and got my btc back, but the second just deleted their account altogether.
On SilkRoad the first order that I placed, the vendor removed all listings (even products unrelated to mine) the next day and didn't respond to my message. The second order was only in processing for a couple days. Right at the 5 day deadline both message me saying they cancelled because they were out of product, which I didn't mind just wished it had happened sooner. On a good note, the second vendor apologized and said he would let me know when they are back in stock and would add a little extra to my order.
Which brings me to this order from PlanetExpress. Once I got my btc back from the previous two orders I got a little too anxious and jumped on the first good deal I found. I didn't look up the vendor name or anything, and that is totally my fault. Luckily, the order was only about .65 btc so not a huge loss, but now I know better.
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Wow, I feel so stupid now. I wish I had seen this before I FE'd this morning. His price for what I wanted was almost half of the next best price, but still high compared to local price, so I went ahead and placed my order. He responded quickly and asked me to FE since I was new. Because I am new and have no feedback, I thought that was normal, so I did.
I knew I should have done some research first. I was just too anxious since I have yet to have a successful order (5 total)
Guess I can kiss that BTC goodbye. Learning experience I guess. :/
Let me help you. What is your DoC(Drug of Choice)? I will point you in the right direction, and even have some words from one of my highly respected 2+ yr buyer accounts of which just about every long-term vendors knows.
Anything I can do. This is not how SR is supposed to be!
Wow!, Thanks so much, I would really appreciate that. I really wish I had come here sooner for this exact reason!
Right now I'm looking for Adderall, but may be looking for tabs/molly in the near future!
Do you think I should buy some cheap, meaningless shit to build up a little rep first? I'm more than happy to if it will help.
Thanks Praetorian!
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Wow, I feel so stupid now. I wish I had seen this before I FE'd this morning. His price for what I wanted was almost half of the next best price, but still high compared to local price, so I went ahead and placed my order. He responded quickly and asked me to FE since I was new. Because I am new and have no feedback, I thought that was normal, so I did.
I knew I should have done some research first. I was just too anxious since I have yet to have a successful order (5 total)
Guess I can kiss that BTC goodbye. Learning experience I guess. :/
Let me help you. What is your DoC(Drug of Choice)? I will point you in the right direction, and even have some words from one of my highly respected 2+ yr buyer accounts of which just about every long-term vendors knows.
Anything I can do. This is not how SR is supposed to be!
Wow!, Thanks so much, I would really appreciate that. I really wish I had come here sooner for this exact reason!
Right now I'm looking for Adderall, but may be looking for tabs/molly in the near future!
Do you think I should buy some cheap, meaningless shit to build up a little rep first? I'm more than happy to if it will help.
Thanks Praetorian!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/066ae5251b <--- Just through a quick browse, they've been here for 1 year +, 100% rated, no FE, and the price(to me) looks decent enough. I'm not big on Adderall so I'm not sure what the best vendor would be, but this looks like a good one to start.
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https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/california/oceansidecarlsbad/the-green-banana-stand look at the 3rd picture on the 2nd row then look at his listing for "High grade medical cannabis" seem familiar? really is a shame to see scammers on the road in this age, security needs to tighten up.
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Bumping up...come on stop Fe'ing ..lots and lots of people should have gotten orders..priority mailed Friday or Saturday would have arrived for most yesterday.
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All I have to say is enough is enough...SR BAN THIS MUTT!!!
Its now Tuesday and people still have not received anything...Its clear cut. Dont allow anymore people to be scammed!
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I agree, twenty pages of FE up to seven days old and not one received delivery?
An embarrassment to SR the longer this is allowed to continue.
For those that did not FE, how do we get our hard earned coin back?
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yeah this whole situation is getting pretty fucked up.
I would personally like to hear about the people that he told to stay in escrow because you wanted your order canceled.
How did that play out?
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His last actual feedback is kinda a while back..I mean come on people, usps is not that slow...they can be here and there, sure.
But priority mail, mailed Thursday, is in most places Saturday. Friday and Saturday priority, arrived yesterday..First class is usually the 3rd day after shipping, so sent Thursday or Friday as first class, arrived yesterday..come on. I saw not one arrival in the feedback.
I am amazed at the amount of people who have so much coin to throw around, to me if you FE you have to be able to lose the money, because you very well might. Hopefully that is all they lose.
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I ordered over $1,700 worth of stuff but did not FE due to the fact that AFTER I made the order my suspicion arose and my instinct shot, I quickly thought about how I could get my money out of Escrow, so I quickly sent him a message stating that I "incorrectly" made my order and that I want to "re-do" it so I can make it how I originally wanted. Of course I had no true intentions of re-ordering from this fool. He sent me a message stating "sure thing" and sure enough he quickly sent me my coins. I don't know if any one else had such luck with getting their coins BACK, but I felt sly as I saw my plan had worked. I don't know if it will work much more because he probably realized I tricked him. I just didn't want him to put it into "transit" so I couldn't cancel it before the 14 days is over to resolve it in the center. Better yet, those who cannot cancel their orders may never get their coin back because before the next 14 days is over, hes more than likely going to bail and dip SR itself, and we'll never see him again. I'm just glad to be fortunate enough to get all of that money back. Someone said to post if you got it back, so that was my story. Good luck to the rest of the community, let the force be with you. -plathora1
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My order did not show up today, definitely stay away if that isn't obvious by this time.
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I ordered over $1,700 worth of stuff but did not FE due to the fact that AFTER I made the order my suspicion arose and my instinct shot, I quickly thought about how I could get my money out of Escrow, so I quickly sent him a message stating that I "incorrectly" made my order and that I want to "re-do" it so I can make it how I originally wanted. Of course I had no true intentions of re-ordering from this fool. He sent me a message stating "sure thing" and sure enough he quickly sent me my coins. I don't know if any one else had such luck with getting their coins BACK, but I felt sly as I saw my plan had worked. I don't know if it will work much more because he probably realized I tricked him. I just didn't want him to put it into "transit" so I couldn't cancel it before the 14 days is over to resolve it in the center. Better yet, those who cannot cancel their orders may never get their coin back because before the next 14 days is over, hes more than likely going to bail and dip SR itself, and we'll never see him again. I'm just glad to be fortunate enough to get all of that money back. Someone said to post if you got it back, so that was my story. Good luck to the rest of the community, let the force be with you. -plathora1
Wait up, I thought as I had not FE'd yet I was pretty safe? What chance have I of getting my coin back, as my status says in transit?
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I just didn't want him to put it into "transit" so I couldn't cancel it before the 14 days is over to resolve it in the center. Better yet, those who cannot cancel their orders may never get their coin back because before the next 14 days is over, hes more than likely going to bail and dip SR itself, and we'll never see him again. I'm just glad to be fortunate enough to get all of that money back. Someone said to post if you got it back, so that was my story. Good luck to the rest of the community, let the force be with you. -plathora1
SR should put a hold on his account and prevent him from cashing out now that they have been notified of a potential scam in progress.
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I ordered over $1,700 worth of stuff but did not FE due to the fact that AFTER I made the order my suspicion arose and my instinct shot, I quickly thought about how I could get my money out of Escrow, so I quickly sent him a message stating that I "incorrectly" made my order and that I want to "re-do" it so I can make it how I originally wanted. Of course I had no true intentions of re-ordering from this fool. He sent me a message stating "sure thing" and sure enough he quickly sent me my coins. I don't know if any one else had such luck with getting their coins BACK, but I felt sly as I saw my plan had worked. I don't know if it will work much more because he probably realized I tricked him. I just didn't want him to put it into "transit" so I couldn't cancel it before the 14 days is over to resolve it in the center. Better yet, those who cannot cancel their orders may never get their coin back because before the next 14 days is over, hes more than likely going to bail and dip SR itself, and we'll never see him again. I'm just glad to be fortunate enough to get all of that money back. Someone said to post if you got it back, so that was my story. Good luck to the rest of the community, let the force be with you. -plathora1
Wait up, I thought as I had not FE'd yet I was pretty safe? What chance have I of getting my coin back, as my status says in transit?
You are safe, it just might take a bit, depending on what ends up happening here..Worst case it will take the time to hit the resolution button and then go to resolution center..which at this point I am sure you will be refunded.
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It appears the FE has slowed some..but people are still doing it..
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Hate to say it guys but SR feedback system is seriously lacking,
To pull this scam off on atlantis would at the very least cost the vendor much more $$$ to setup
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If you guys haven't seen weed man's comment up above, that basically proves a scam. Also it gives me an idea of this bastards location... hahahah
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My buddy and I are tied up in it too. This was at the very end of last week, before he lowered prices drastically further and made them utterly unbelievable. Thankfully we had the sense to not FE, but still he claims to have "sent it" yesterday. Not a huge amount of $$ lost, but sucks to be out a couple hundo at the moment. Hope resolution can get this fixed and btc back since we didn't FE...
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My buddy and I are tied up in it too. This was at the very end of last week, before he lowered prices drastically further and made them utterly unbelievable. Thankfully we had the sense to not FE, but still he claims to have "sent it" yesterday. Not a huge amount of $$ lost, but sucks to be out a couple hundo at the moment. Hope resolution can get this fixed and btc back since we didn't FE...
As long as you didn't FE you will get the btc back. It may take some time, but better then losing it. Unless by some miracle it shows up..but as of a little bit ago he has 42lbs of high grade weed available and like 14000 hits of lsd..along with that the rest of the unreal list of products..at those prices.
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Come on guys don't FE!
It's not cool! :(
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My buddy and I are tied up in it too. This was at the very end of last week, before he lowered prices drastically further and made them utterly unbelievable. Thankfully we had the sense to not FE, but still he claims to have "sent it" yesterday. Not a huge amount of $$ lost, but sucks to be out a couple hundo at the moment. Hope resolution can get this fixed and btc back since we didn't FE...
As long as you didn't FE you will get the btc back. It may take some time, but better then losing it. Unless by some miracle it shows up..but as of a little bit ago he has 42lbs of high grade weed available and like 14000 hits of lsd..along with that the rest of the unreal list of products..at those prices.
So if you don't FE (which I didn't), how do you get BTC back? I don't see anyway on the order page to dispute the order. I just see a "Resolve" marker but there is no way for me to click on it. I am worried it will Auto-Finalize me.... Thanks in advance for any help. I hate scumbags like PE.
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So thankful as to have not ordered from this guy. Thank you to whoever put the warnings on his feedback! 8)
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My buddy and I are tied up in it too. This was at the very end of last week, before he lowered prices drastically further and made them utterly unbelievable. Thankfully we had the sense to not FE, but still he claims to have "sent it" yesterday. Not a huge amount of $$ lost, but sucks to be out a couple hundo at the moment. Hope resolution can get this fixed and btc back since we didn't FE...
As long as you didn't FE you will get the btc back. It may take some time, but better then losing it. Unless by some miracle it shows up..but as of a little bit ago he has 42lbs of high grade weed available and like 14000 hits of lsd..along with that the rest of the unreal list of products..at those prices.
So if you don't FE (which I didn't), how do you get BTC back? I don't see anyway on the order page to dispute the order. I just see a "Resolve" marker but there is no way for me to click on it. I am worried it will Auto-Finalize me.... Thanks in advance for any help. I hate scumbags like PE.
Assuming these orders were never sent, his vendor account will most likely be shut down soon. At that time any open orders that have not been finalized (even if they are currently marked in transit), should be refunded automatically by SR. Just hold tight and don't FE, you should be fine.
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This guy did the classic fuk job... No one is going to receive anything and another 29 dumbfuk's FE'ed yesterday after I changed my feedback to 1/5 because a zero out of 5 wasn't an option.
No need to check your mailbox; you're not getting shit!!...Bend over and grab your ankles everyone that FE'ed cuz you just took it in the ass, DRY not even any spit on it!!!
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NEWBEES, it is a simple concept! There are 1000's of vendors on SR!! If one wants you to FE, simply find someone else who does not. I never FE and will never do it, i dont care what discounts you give me. I hustle too hard to make this money, you're not taking it from me that easily, FACK that!! Good luck to all of you who FE, i truly hope you learned your lesson.
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People are still FE'ing within the last HOUR for this guy, even with "scammer" written several times on the feedback visible when you first view his vendor pages. It amazes me how people continue to throw their money away - SR isn't the lottery, it shouldn't be about "oooh, I'll pay in and hope I might have the chance to win some drugs!"
Very glad I decided not to FE - now I just want my money back so will be going into resolution in 6 days, if he hasn't been shut down by then. SR Powers That Be, TAKE NOTICE! This guy is a scammer and is hurting your credibility as a place to do business - SHUT HIM DOWN!
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My buddy and I are tied up in it too. This was at the very end of last week, before he lowered prices drastically further and made them utterly unbelievable. Thankfully we had the sense to not FE, but still he claims to have "sent it" yesterday. Not a huge amount of $$ lost, but sucks to be out a couple hundo at the moment. Hope resolution can get this fixed and btc back since we didn't FE...
As long as you didn't FE you will get the btc back. It may take some time, but better then losing it. Unless by some miracle it shows up..but as of a little bit ago he has 42lbs of high grade weed available and like 14000 hits of lsd..along with that the rest of the unreal list of products..at those prices.
So if you don't FE (which I didn't), how do you get BTC back? I don't see anyway on the order page to dispute the order. I just see a "Resolve" marker but there is no way for me to click on it. I am worried it will Auto-Finalize me.... Thanks in advance for any help. I hate scumbags like PE.
Assuming these orders were never sent, his vendor account will most likely be shut down soon. At that time any open orders that have not been finalized (even if they are currently marked in transit), should be refunded automatically by SR. Just hold tight and don't FE, you should be fine.
Yea it doesn't just go auto finalize. The resolve button becomes clickable on like day 10 or something. I just had it happen for the first time on an order of keflex(antibiotics) of all things.
But as long as you didnt release the funds and sign in to check up and deal with the order, you will get your money back. If they ban him outright, I would think you get the money back right away, no idea how that all works, haven't been through that, but I know people do get their money back.
Hang in there and be glad you aren't one of the people donating to PE, oh I mean finalizing early. Never do it, unless you can afford to lose it.
Unreal to see yet another person handed over 300 some dollars to this vendor minutes ago..
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Damn, I changed my feedback to 1/5 and planetexpress messaged me and told me he would send me half of my money back and that I could send it back to him as soon as the product arrived as long as i changed my feedback back to 5/5....
fuck this is seriously the strangest situation. I just messaged him about it and I am awaiting a response.
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Damn, I changed my feedback to 1/5 and planetexpress messaged me and told me he would send me half of my money back and that I could send it back to him as soon as the product arrived as long as i changed my feedback back to 5/5....
fuck this is seriously the strangest situation. I just messaged him about it and I am awaiting a response.
Dude, no shit... this is getting so fucking weird. I got the same email and to that I just said refund me 50% of my money and I'll change it to 5/5.
It's obvious to me there's NO package coming but think about it; if he gives away 50% of his money, he still has 15k in pure profit. This motherfucker is seriously the smartest scamming dude ever. I mean I don't want to sound like an asshole here and the noble thing to do would be to say "fuck you, keep my money, I'm leaving my 1/5" BUT clearly no one is heeding our warnings anyway so why not mitigate our losses? There are several 1/5 and people are still Fe'ing by the hour....
Any suggestions?
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Damn, I changed my feedback to 1/5 and planetexpress messaged me and told me he would send me half of my money back and that I could send it back to him as soon as the product arrived as long as i changed my feedback back to 5/5....
fuck this is seriously the strangest situation. I just messaged him about it and I am awaiting a response.
Dude, no shit... this is getting so fucking weird. I got the same email and to that I just said refund me 50% of my money and I'll change it to 5/5.
It's obvious to me there's NO package coming but think about it; if he gives away 50% of his money, he still has 15k in pure profit. This motherfucker is seriously the smartest scamming dude ever. I mean I don't want to sound like an asshole here and the noble thing to do would be to say "fuck you, keep my money, I'm leaving my 1/5" BUT clearly no one is heeding our warnings anyway so why not mitigate our losses? There are several 1/5 and people are still Fe'ing by the hour....
Any suggestions?
I mean honestly thats a lot of work to go through... more work than a scammer would go through (i would think)
Just going to have to wait and see at this point
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With all that "went out" on Monday, he's got until tomorrow (Wednesday) or Thursday before he bolts assuming all is as suspected.
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Do whatever you can to get whatever amount of money back if that is possible. Tell him you will leave it at 5 for one hour and if you don't have half your money back, you're changing it again. Then, when/if he does give you half back, change it immediately. Vendors can never take money out of your account.
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Well I lost 2 coins with this guy. I ordered 6 days ago, and I didn't see any negative feedback at the time. He asked me to FE and I after I saw some of his past feedback on deliveries, I thought ok, he's probably for real. The lesson I've learned is you have to think like a scammer to protect yourself. Of course you would establish a brief period of successful sales, and then reappear for the big steal. The big steal was all his actions over the past 7 days, And I'm sure some of those orders were big. I'm a great fan of SR, and I guess I had to pay a couple hundred to now become a better buyer, I've accepted this and I'm moving on. Now lets not FE on any other shit and get this site back in balance!
NT
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Thank God I read some feedback before I just got a message from PE asking me to FE so he could reup quicker and keep prices lower. He messaged me less than an hour after I placed my order.
Does anyone know how this will work now that I placed the order and my payment is in escrow? I am sure he isn't going to ship me anything, but is there any way to get my bitcoins back without waiting the 17 days and going through the hassle? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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He scammed me out of almost 4 coins, really sucks but lesson learned. I FE'd based off his older positive feedback before the flood of page after page of FE and crazy inventory. I am relatively new and most of my other sellers requested FE as well which I did and got the orders without issue so it didn't seem like it was an unusual request at the time.
He also messaged me saying he would send back half of my Coins in good faith until my order arrived, but said I had to change my feedback first. I did and also told him he had 2 hours to send the coins or it was going back to a feedback of 1. Well after changing it of course I don't hear anything back from him or see any coins. I don't think he intends to send anyone anything back, it's just a last ditch effort to clean up his feedback for another day or two so he can get a bunch of others to buy before he's completely done.
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After all this shit and pages and pages of discussion I CANNOT BELIEVE people are still finalizing early...Whats more crazy is that SR still allows his account to be active! This is a disgrace...Lay down that ban hammer. It is now Wednesday and still no reports of arrival...
I still see a sense of hope in some of these forum posts, hoping that something will arrive. As stated earlier I would not even bother checking your mailbox. The quicker you accept what has happened the better you will feel about it guys. Live and learn ladies and gents...
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lots of critics today... not sure what to say except sorry for giving you more info, tools and options? We have the manpower to moderate the discussion boards and everything else. We aren't stretched thin or anything like that. If you don't like the speed at which vendors you think are scammers are demoted, I encourage you to flag them and provide DETAILED EVIDENCE for why they should be demoted.
do it.
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Holy shit.... there are 2 people that bought a GRAND worth of bud in just the last 24 hours!! I seriously thought this would have been taken care of day one, but I am absolutely astounded at the number of users FE'ing and posting in this thread that have absolutely no fucking clue how this site works. I SAW ONE POSTER WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ORDER AUTO-FINALIZING!!!!! If people want to take these kinds of risks without even taking A FEW GODDAMN MINUTES to read how this works, if they WOULD SOONER TRANSFER HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OVER THE INTERNET THAN READ THE GUIDES AND INFO posted EVERYWHERE, then they are going to LOSE IT!!!!! Next time it won't be a scammer you're sending your address to unencrypted, it will be an LEO, TO TAKE YOU AWAY FROM THIS COMMUNITY!!!!
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What is happening to Silk Road? Why are people FE'ing on huge orders from a guy with no record of legitimate sales? I've been looking at some orders STILL coming in for hundreds and hundreds of dollars that people FE'd for. I don't mean to be a dick, I know I'd be really upset if I were one of you right now, but Silk Road advises people to never FE, period. If you are going to FE (which I have a personal policy of never doing) you better make sure that a vendor NOT ONLY has a good overall score, but has comments and threads showing that people have been trusting this person and have been receiving packages. When you FE, you need to understand, your money is now gone; you don't have it, SR doesn't have it... the vendor has it. So if that vendor didn't send your package or it got lost, there is nothing you or anyone can definitively do. I feel bad for people but come on guys! Even for a trusted vendor with a good reputation, if one day he changes his payment policy to FE for everyone, and all of a sudden his trusted buyers are FE'ing for hundreds and thousands of dollars, what makes you think this guy isn't quitting the game and didn't figure he might as well end it with some very easy, quick cash? Use your heads. This system is good, but it isn't perfect and it never will be. I really am sorry to all of you, but it's increasingly looking like your money is gone. I'm assuming we have a lot of newbies, because people used to know better.
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:-* I LOVE SILK ROAD http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9ce952b6e7
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Holy shit.... there are 2 people that bought a GRAND worth of bud in just the last 24 hours!! I seriously thought this would have been taken care of day one, but I am absolutely astounded at the number of users FE'ing and posting in this thread that have absolutely no fucking clue how this site works. I SAW ONE POSTER WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ORDER AUTO-FINALIZING!!!!! If people want to take these kinds of risks without even taking A FEW GODDAMN MINUTES to read how this works, if they WOULD SOONER TRANSFER HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OVER THE INTERNET THAN READ THE GUIDES AND INFO posted EVERYWHERE, then they are going to LOSE IT!!!!! Next time it won't be a scammer you're sending your address to unencrypted, it will be an LEO, TO TAKE YOU AWAY FROM THIS COMMUNITY!!!!
Not sure if your post was directed at me as I did post a concern two pages back about an order auto-finalizing. I read enough to know I should not FE, which I did not do. Hence PE does not have my BTC so I am not a total loss (yet). It was after that that I found this PE thread, and was then concerned about how to cancel the order before auto-finalize went through.
I have read other posts where shipments got "lost in the mail" and the resolution was a 50/50 split, so to me that is not a great resolution if you never get the product. I am trying to get 100% of my BTC back, and anxious to learn the best way to make that happen.
As my stats show, I am a newbie. I have taken the time to peruse the forums to try and learn more, you can't exactly go ask your next door neighbor for advice on this subject matter. Besides, I thought that was what the forums were for in the first place (asking what you don't know and hence Newbie discussion board which I have often frequented).
There is a plethora of information on SR, so much so that you don't even know where to start at times. I am sure you were new once, so back off the excessive use of caps, stop yelling at your monitor and try to remember you too were naive at one point in your life. No one becomes a wise man without life experiences, so try and be mindful of that and just be helpful to your fellow man rather than hurl insults at them.
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This will go down in SR history. Let this be a lesson to future SR users. Even if PE turns out to be a fully legit vendor who is having legit shipping delays (lol) this episode should be a wake up call against FEing.
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There is a plethora of information on SR, so much so that you don't even know where to start at times. I am sure you were new once, so back off the excessive use of caps, stop yelling at your monitor and try to remember you too were naive at one point in your life. No one becomes a wise man without life experiences, so try and be mindful of that and just be helpful to your fellow man rather than hurl insults at them.
Well said....
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ETM, lucydrop, tony76, jimmy buffet, i can list a bunch more scammers that many of us warned SR about and SR waited until they made off with a shit load of BTC before SR acted.. I can agree on one point that you cant stop morons from FEing, but SR can limit the amount a vendor can have in FE's and his listings freeze when he exceeds that. a vendor can have as many orders in escrow as they want. but when you see 5 pages of FE and the forums are lit up with no orders being received thats BS...many of the buyers are domestic and it dont take 8 days to get a letter. i have received stuff from Germany, UK and canada in 7 days. the other idea is to limit the amount of FEs a vendor can ask for in a weeks time. than they lose it for a week... by than most orders should be received within 14 days. If SR has the smarts to develop SR, finding a way to curb this kind of abuse should be easy.
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Holy shit.... there are 2 people that bought a GRAND worth of bud in just the last 24 hours!! I seriously thought this would have been taken care of day one, but I am absolutely astounded at the number of users FE'ing and posting in this thread that have absolutely no fucking clue how this site works. I SAW ONE POSTER WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ORDER AUTO-FINALIZING!!!!! If people want to take these kinds of risks without even taking A FEW GODDAMN MINUTES to read how this works, if they WOULD SOONER TRANSFER HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OVER THE INTERNET THAN READ THE GUIDES AND INFO posted EVERYWHERE, then they are going to LOSE IT!!!!! Next time it won't be a scammer you're sending your address to unencrypted, it will be an LEO, TO TAKE YOU AWAY FROM THIS COMMUNITY!!!!
Not sure if your post was directed at me as I did post a concern two pages back about an order auto-finalizing. I read enough to know I should not FE, which I did not do. Hence PE does not have my BTC so I am not a total loss (yet). It was after that that I found this PE thread, and was then concerned about how to cancel the order before auto-finalize went through.
I have read other posts where shipments got "lost in the mail" and the resolution was a 50/50 split, so to me that is not a great resolution if you never get the product. I am trying to get 100% of my BTC back, and anxious to learn the best way to make that happen.
As my stats show, I am a newbie. I have taken the time to peruse the forums to try and learn more, you can't exactly go ask your next door neighbor for advice on this subject matter. Besides, I thought that was what the forums were for in the first place (asking what you don't know and hence Newbie discussion board which I have often frequented).
There is a plethora of information on SR, so much so that you don't even know where to start at times. I am sure you were new once, so back off the excessive use of caps, stop yelling at your monitor and try to remember you too were naive at one point in your life. No one becomes a wise man without life experiences, so try and be mindful of that and just be helpful to your fellow man rather than hurl insults at them.
I wasn't trying to go after you specifically, but yes I was referencing your post there. If you didn't FE, most of that wasn't for you. The thing that frustrates me to no end is that I TOO am a new customer!!!! You may think because I know how thing work around here that I have been around a while, but I have only been actually purchasing for a little over a month! Before I was satisfied with sending my money out into the big bad deepweb, I must have lurked here for 6 months. Since purchasing, I have probably spent a few thousand dollars already, every purchase a resounding success. I see these PAGES of positive FE reviews and THOUSANDS of dollars being lost and what probably kills me the most is the happy lighthearted reviews because I can just imagine any single one of my orders turning out like this and how horrible that feeling is to get ripped off. I don't mean to come off as attacking, but I cant understand why anyone would approach this place with such a lax attitude towards understanding the rules. I mean, you are potentially dealing with LEO disguised as sellers and if you don't believe me ask DPR (The site founder) who makes light of this fact almost incessantly. This place holds some incredible possibilities, but goddamnit it's not a TOY! Haha. Seriously though if the rules & best practices are too numerous for you to consolidate and process, then perhaps you should rethink you participation in this marketplace. Just my .02! DON'T GET BUTTHURT!!
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Holy shit.... there are 2 people that bought a GRAND worth of bud in just the last 24 hours!! I seriously thought this would have been taken care of day one, but I am absolutely astounded at the number of users FE'ing and posting in this thread that have absolutely no fucking clue how this site works. I SAW ONE POSTER WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ORDER AUTO-FINALIZING!!!!! If people want to take these kinds of risks without even taking A FEW GODDAMN MINUTES to read how this works, if they WOULD SOONER TRANSFER HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OVER THE INTERNET THAN READ THE GUIDES AND INFO posted EVERYWHERE, then they are going to LOSE IT!!!!! Next time it won't be a scammer you're sending your address to unencrypted, it will be an LEO, TO TAKE YOU AWAY FROM THIS COMMUNITY!!!!
Not sure if your post was directed at me as I did post a concern two pages back about an order auto-finalizing. I read enough to know I should not FE, which I did not do. Hence PE does not have my BTC so I am not a total loss (yet). It was after that that I found this PE thread, and was then concerned about how to cancel the order before auto-finalize went through.
I have read other posts where shipments got "lost in the mail" and the resolution was a 50/50 split, so to me that is not a great resolution if you never get the product. I am trying to get 100% of my BTC back, and anxious to learn the best way to make that happen.
As my stats show, I am a newbie. I have taken the time to peruse the forums to try and learn more, you can't exactly go ask your next door neighbor for advice on this subject matter. Besides, I thought that was what the forums were for in the first place (asking what you don't know and hence Newbie discussion board which I have often frequented).
There is a plethora of information on SR, so much so that you don't even know where to start at times. I am sure you were new once, so back off the excessive use of caps, stop yelling at your monitor and try to remember you too were naive at one point in your life. No one becomes a wise man without life experiences, so try and be mindful of that and just be helpful to your fellow man rather than hurl insults at them.
I wasn't trying to go after you specifically, but yes I was referencing your post there. If you didn't FE, most of that wasn't for you. The thing that frustrates me to no end is that I TOO am a new customer!!!! You may think because I know how thing work around here that I have been around a while, but I have only been actually purchasing for a little over a month! Before I was satisfied with sending my money out into the big bad deepweb, I must have lurked here for 6 months. Since purchasing, I have probably spent a few thousand dollars already, every purchase a resounding success. I see these PAGES of positive FE reviews and THOUSANDS of dollars being lost and what probably kills me the most is the happy lighthearted reviews because I can just imagine any single one of my orders turning out like this and how horrible that feeling is to get ripped off. I don't mean to come off as attacking, but I cant understand why anyone would approach this place with such a lax attitude towards understanding the rules. I mean, you are potentially dealing with LEO disguised as sellers and if you don't believe me ask DPR (The site founder) who makes light of this fact almost incessantly. This place holds some incredible possibilities, but goddamnit it's not a TOY! Haha. Seriously though if the rules & best practices are too numerous for you to consolidate and process, then perhaps you should rethink you participation in this marketplace. Just my .02! DON'T GET BUTTHURT!!
Relax dude with the exclamation points. Use your SR superiority to buy same Xanax.
I actually agreed with most of what you said until you contradicted yourself and made light of me thinking there are too many rules when you admitted it took you six months to get yourself to a point where you were ready to order. As for the "butthurt" part, I guess I would have hurt feelings if I was 17 and you were the cool kid in class.
You seem to keep forgetting that this forum is for people to learn to use SR the right way, which I have done thus far having my first 6-7 orders go great and even in this incident not FEing due to my research through this forum. If you want to keep boasting how you rule and others drool, I would suggest going to another forum because you will just continue to get frustrated with newbies as this is a NEWBIE forum. Now that's a proper use of caps - pointing out something that is obvious to most but not to the very ignorant.
I feel bad for the guys taken through PE, because I have had similar experiences through going to concerts and buying fake years ago, and then through Topix once the internet selling became prevalent. I am a wiser man now, and I hope to help those trying to recognize scammers rather than acting like a pompous ass like you.
With regards to PE, I fully admit this was a classic case of "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is..." and for that I am kicking myself. Pricing that low should have been a major red flag, but my greed got the best of me. Just glad I knew not to FE, no matter how good the deal appeared to be.
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@browncat
not sure if you got your question answered but in the case of a scam you will get a %100 refund. The %50 is only in the case of a legit vendor actually sending u something and it gets intercepted or not delivered when its not your fault. You will get all your money back when this deuchebag gets the banhammer.
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+1's to browncat and illmotions for using the forums to help other -1 for the arsehat bassbluntbitches for being a pompus tool not offering anything constructive at all
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Well, I FE'd. Was very reluctant to, but I'm in a country most vendors require it for, based on time taken to arrive and customs. That was before the weekend, tho they haven't even read my message confirming I'd FE'd. Changed to 1/5, but would be happy to change back if the star align and anything turns up, sigh.
[Edit] Yes, I know, no one forced me to FE.
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it looks like PE has now erased his original listings and replaced them with new one's that don't show the negative feedback. desperately trying to rip off a few more people before their account gets shut down
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/category/70 - sort by newest
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WHY FE, don't you like money?
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Time to send PE my final message, Soon they won't have an account to send to. Instead of venting further here, Im sending PE a message that might at least make them nervous.. That is, if I guess a few clues about them correctly.
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I looked at PE listings at first and thought they were too good to be true. I almost pulled the trigger and bought but once I saw that he required FE without posting it on his vendor page I decided against it. I am so glad I waited to watch this unfold.
After watching this thread develop I will never FE for a vendor who does not specify it on their page. I feel terrible for people who got scammed but at the same time they are dumb for trusting this vendor who just so happens to carry all drugs at very very low prices. But for some reason people are still buying from him! More people need to read the forums.
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I briefly thought about buying some acid off PE, but then my instincts kicked in and told me his prices were too good to be true. Thank glob for the forums, otherwise I might have let my greed lead me into doing something stupid. Aside from telling people to never FE, I wish SR would tell people to always, always, always check the forums and do their research before making a purchase.
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I also thought that it was a odd that PE had zero pictures of his various items. Even having a stock photo from google would be more legit than his logo on every page. I think it shows that all his listings were rushed. I doubt people order large amounts of meth or blow without looking at a real picture to judge the quality. But maybe I am wrong.
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OMG you guys that stupid :(
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it looks like PE has now erased his original listings and replaced them with new one's that don't show the negative feedback. desperately trying to rip off a few more people before their account gets shut down
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/category/70 - sort by newest
fuk sake & still going wtf Sr
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/d3eb7af489
get a grip >:(
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Meanwhile another two victims FE.
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i can't believe people have been falling for this for so long. i feel like an ass for not going with the slightly more expensive mushies but i wanted the GTs. oh well its $17 and i wasn't dumb enough to FE. at that price the only costs you have resupplying your mushies is substrate.
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so i bought the 3.5 grams of shrooms from this guy on wednesday and still haven't gotten them. Thank god i didn't FE like this guy asked. As soon as day ten hits, i'm going to contact SR get my btcs back.
So lesson i've learned as a noob: don't FE unless they specify that they are going to on their vendor page, and go through all of the reviews.
good luck guys!
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At this point, enough information is out there that I do not feel remotely bad for people who keep getting scammed by this guy. Forget about the fact that if you're going to use SR, it behooves you to read as much as you can and check out the forums. Even if I didn't think that the forums should be mandatory reading, there is 1/5 feedback with warnings and links to this thread.
Anyone who chooses to ignore that (or decides not to even read that far down) deserves to get taken.... It's just too bad that POS is going to get the money.
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I really cannot comprehend how more dumbass'es are still continuing to FE!! Hello, read the reviews and you will see all the 1/5 scam notifications!! I am really tired of watching P.E. steal more people's money. Wake up and read your reviews!!
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You guys took the words out of my mouth. I never bought from this guy as it seemed too good to be true... and then I read the reviews. Reported him days ago idk wtf the mods are doing.
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Is there any way to get money back from SR?
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Is there any way to get money back from SR?
no... you gave it away when you finalized early. Live and learn, never do that again.
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just checked the mail and its still a no-go.
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just checked the mail and its still a no-go.
lol, I didn't even waste my time walking to the mailbox:\
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i'm still really glad that i didn't fe. i just think enough time has gone by for SR to see that this dude is a scammer. i want my money back so i can get some lsd :))
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Right there with you guys. Did not FE. Sucks because I was one of the legitimate buyers of his samples he sent out, so I thought, "Great! He got more 6-apb and look at those cheap ass roxi!! How does PE sell so low?"
Now I know he sent out those samples just to garner false reputation and scam. Rule of thumb, no matter what your stats are, NEVER FE! If the vendor messages you asking to FE, then message back saying I do not FE. If you must cancel my order, do so, but I will not FE and promise to Finalize upon receipt.
So, I am waiting for the timer to count down to go into resolution. Sucks because I have had perfect transaction stats until this guy. Now he is going to tarnish my purchasing stats. Hopefully SR staff can eliminate this from my stats and refund my BTC in full, unless he can provide legitimate tracking information (HA!)
Never FE guys!
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I feel for everyone who got scammed, these scams are getting more and more complex. It's easy to understand someone who isn't a regular forum user could get roped into a FE after seeing 100% vendor rating and a few hundred transactions. Not too long ago I too lived under the assumption that all SR vendors were screened and legit after losing a quarter pound I learned my lesson and lurked the forums prior purchase until creating this account.
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I bought from someone before where they just marked several orders in transit then disappeared from SR. I had to go to resolution and got my money back and nothing was ever put on my purchasing stats since it was obviously a vendor issue. I would hope stats wouldn't be affected by this guy either since he obviously never sent anything.
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Am I the only one who wonders why SR banhammers the useful members and lets the actual bad ones fuck off for months?
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just checked the mail and its still a no-go.
Mr wavelength I think you knew this was gonna be the case like last wednesday night. It still suck though. Fucking ahole this guy is, i want my money united quick and not have my stats fucked up.
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Am I the only one who wonders why SR banhammers the useful members and lets the actual bad ones fuck off for months?
LegalizeMMJ, EJ Direct, Topshelf..... I read these threads where a vendor gets insta banned for fucking about and then these guys hang around long after the situation is clear
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Is there anyway for admins to freeze his wallet not allowing him to cash out until some orders have been verified as delivered? Also, this shit makes me appreciate all the vendors whom I've done business with who didnt screw me over. So thank you to everyone who is legit and doesnt do this shit. The community is unified, DPR said he is the beacon of trust in the Forbes interview and PlanetExpress is violating it. Shame on him!
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It's a sad day for SR,
The mods are only too happy to tell you there are alternative markets if you don't link the way they run the place,
Maybe it's about time we started to listen.
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This guy has to be a scam. He's deleting all of his discussion posts on the main site. There were 50+ at first, and now there is only 1. I just wanna get my BTC back; at least I stayed in escrow...
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just checked the mail and its still a no-go.
Mr wavelength I think you knew this was gonna be the case like last wednesday night. It still suck though. Fucking ahole this guy is, i want my money united quick and not have my stats fucked up.
Lol yeah pretty much but I still had small hopes because I had dealt with the man before... sorry if my hopefulness led others astray. ::)
I think someone gave me another negative karma just for saying I checked my mailbox?
Niggas if you got ripped off don't take it out on me I'm currently going through the same shit and trust me, just about everyone on sr has had their one or two times of getting scammed.
It sucks, but it makes you a better buyer in the long wrong so count your losses and move on :)
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I ordered on sat night. Looked and reviews which "looked" legit and didn't have an issue FE since I only ordered about $100 worth. This guy is a clear scam but he did it well. I put some of the blame on myself but damn he was pretty slick. Ofcourse I'm pissed I lost BTC but I know better for the future. What really pissede off is that he is still doing it and getting away with it. He had to been reported over 100 times and it is now apparent what he is/has pulled but the mods aren't doing anything to stop him. He has clearly broken a rule if not many so why is he still allowed to pull this shady shit? I haven't ventured onto any other markets but the lack of moderation is pushing me to see what else is out there... Sure a refund would be nice but i clearly fucked up by FE so live and learn And be thankful it wasn't a large amount I lost...
Fuck PE!
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So it looks like his account has been suspended - you can't access his user page anymore. Thank God. However, my BTCs haven't been refunded and the order is still showing up in my orders page. Anybody know how long it takes SR to refund BTCs in escrow when someone is suspended?
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So it looks like his account has been suspended - you can't access his user page anymore. Thank God. However, my BTCs haven't been refunded and the order is still showing up in my orders page. Anybody know how long it takes SR to refund BTCs in escrow when someone is suspended?
Good news this is!
It takes as long as it takes for them to finish their investigation. Being how obvious of a scam it was, it shouldn't take too much longer? But, the only ones who really know are the administrators. :/
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Cheers to escrow. Hopefully the staff of SR will have my funds back to me shortly to put these funds into reliable vendors for some actual products!
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I wrote PE a message about 2 hours ago. Told him nicely that it was dick move and how he should come clean and do the right thing. He just responded a couple minutes ago with
" Its not a scam"
.... Thats all I got, not a very good explanation.
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I wrote PE a message about 2 hours ago. Told him nicely that it was dick move and how he should come clean and do the right thing. He just responded a couple minutes ago with
" Its not a scam"
.... Thats all I got, not a very good explanation.
Hahahahaaha. PE has quite a way with words, doesn't he?
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I wrote PE a message about 2 hours ago. Told him nicely that it was dick move and how he should come clean and do the right thing. He just responded a couple minutes ago with
" Its not a scam"
.... Thats all I got, not a very good explanation.
lol
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Hey hey, new to the road, 'seasoned' IRL, I've been hoping that this was a scam and not possible LE, chalk it up to paranoia. I ordered when he only had a small amount of listings, at a cost that seemed to me, standard street level prices, and therefor a very viable and realistic business strategy. (Shame on me for miscalculating human altruism). I'm very happy he has been suspended, if only on principal. Been burned in real life enough times to know it can get far worse than losing money, take any set-back as a lesson and it won't be a total loss. Never gamble what you can't afford to lose. Don't FE, and don't front faceless criminals money in the real world. Sorry for waxing philosophic first post. DPR= Hero.
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Placed my order last Wednesday for an 8th of shrooms (about $17 - of course now I realize it had to be too good to be true) and there was NO bad feedback on his profile and I don't recall seeing any warning signs while roaming the forums, so I figured he was legit. Messaged me and we sorted out an order situation, so I figured it was safe. I had few transactions, yes, and had no problem with FE for other vendors (risky on my part I know but I put the benefit of the doubt first) so I tried.
Next week I log on to check his profile and there is nothing BUT FE posts and "THIS IS A SCAM!" posts. So I never expected any scam and there is no way of a refund, so I'm pretty sad. At least it was less than $20, but still. This is ridiculous.
I knew there were scammers but I didn't think I would be a victim when I actually tried to look into the best vendor for the product I was looking for..
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Placed my order last Wednesday for an 8th of shrooms (about $17 - of course now I realize it had to be too good to be true) and there was NO bad feedback on his profile and I don't recall seeing any warning signs while roaming the forums, so I figured he was legit. Messaged me and we sorted out an order situation, so I figured it was safe. I had few transactions, yes, and had no problem with FE for other vendors (risky on my part I know but I put the benefit of the doubt first) so I tried.
Next week I log on to check his profile and there is nothing BUT FE posts and "THIS IS A SCAM!" posts. So I never expected any scam and there is no way of a refund, so I'm pretty sad. At least it was less than $20, but still. This is ridiculous.
I knew there were scammers but I didn't think I would be a victim when I actually tried to look into the best vendor for the product I was looking for..
When a vendor who is less than three months, has every drug that is the most sort after, who sells them at half price, has a list that shows he has hundreds of products in stock. I think you need to ask yourself, does he REALLY NEED my 20 dollars?
Just saying. :P
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So, the vanishing act has occurred, whether on his own or by admin. What now for those that didn't FE?
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So, the vanishing act has occurred, whether on his own or by admin. What now for those that didn't FE?
wait for the resolution to come and go to resolution....don't let it auto-finalize. Unless SR Admins pull their heads out of their ass and decided to refund all the money now.
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Is there anyway for admins to freeze his wallet not allowing him to cash out until some orders have been verified as delivered? Also, this shit makes me appreciate all the vendors whom I've done business with who didnt screw me over. So thank you to everyone who is legit and doesnt do this shit. The community is unified, DPR said he is the beacon of trust in the Forbes interview and PlanetExpress is violating it. Shame on him!
For reasons I can't imagine, the SR support team couldn't give less of a fuck. Their words were something like "Technically he hasn't broken any rules, so we won't do anything."
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Anyone know, do we get back the same BTC or USD when we get our escrow back? I could make some money off this!
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Anyone know, do we get back the same BTC or USD when we get our escrow back? I could make some money off this!
I'm pretty sure it depends on if it was hedged or not.
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Anyone know, do we get back the same BTC or USD when we get our escrow back? I could make some money off this!
I'm pretty sure it depends on if it was hedged or not.
That's pretty much what I was asking ;) I'm sure there are other ways of putting it.
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If they are found to be a scammer the amount in escrow is returned in full you might make a little but if BTC had gone the other way you would have lost hedged is for the resolutions I think you will find
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Placed my order last Wednesday for an 8th of shrooms (about $17 - of course now I realize it had to be too good to be true) and there was NO bad feedback on his profile and I don't recall seeing any warning signs while roaming the forums, so I figured he was legit. Messaged me and we sorted out an order situation, so I figured it was safe. I had few transactions, yes, and had no problem with FE for other vendors (risky on my part I know but I put the benefit of the doubt first) so I tried.
Next week I log on to check his profile and there is nothing BUT FE posts and "THIS IS A SCAM!" posts. So I never expected any scam and there is no way of a refund, so I'm pretty sad. At least it was less than $20, but still. This is ridiculous.
I knew there were scammers but I didn't think I would be a victim when I actually tried to look into the best vendor for the product I was looking for..
When a vendor who is less than three months, has every drug that is the most sort after, who sells them at half price, has a list that shows he has hundreds of products in stock. I think you need to ask yourself, does he REALLY NEED my 20 dollars?
Just saying. :P
Well he didn't have all these listings up when I made my order, there were only a few items, so I didn't think he'd by trying to scam me of $20. :P
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These dudes i think got shut down finally, I mean It looked like a lot of people FE'd so they made some serious loot, they had some pretty big listings up. I figured the prices were too good to be true so I took a watch and wait.... then I saw the 1/5's start coming and I'm glad I didn't let my appetite for a good deal get me in a mess for a change.
I heard this grimy fucker was telling people that if they leave 5/5 he would give them half there loot and "when the package arrived they could give him the rest of the cash" Hoping by getting some 5/5's would keep his scam afloat... What a little bitch this guy must be at least someone sticking a gun in my face assumes some risk this guy just fucks good people out of there money.... despicable
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what are you selling?
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Planet express was selling everything at very low prices just send them all your credit card numbers and if one is lucky you win good lick
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Well, It's disheartening to say the least to sit here and read up on this. I placed my order with this douche canoe 6 days ago and immediately received this message.
"PlanetExpress Your order is ready to be shipped! We kindly ask that you finalize the order early because you are a new buyer and/or have a high refund rate. The order will ship as soon as you finalize."
I have had a couple of vendors asked me to do the same, read many positive reviews and fe'd and received my package in quality fast time. I didn't think twice at the time FEing with this guy as he had plenty of good reviews, I know if I would have seen anything remotely incriminating, I would never have ordered. Was his listing low? yeah, but not unreasonable if someone had a large quantity looking to unload. I have a huge event I'm attending this weekend and with zero red flags I went ahead and FE. 4 coins worth.
So, My package never arrived. just logged in to message him and his profile is gone, and here I am.
I'm more pissed that i don't have my product 3 days before this event. Money, I'll make more.... If he needed my $$$ that bad, take it..... Karma is a fucking CUNT and he will get his. I'm really not worried. There are some great vendors out there..... shame on me for FE. I can tell you this. Vendors you want my $$$ No more FE. My opinion, SR needs to immediately remove any listing from any vendor that asks to FE. "I trust you, you trust me" doesn't fly.
oh Well... Shit happens. Live and learn
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The hole "and or" bit didn't raise a massive red flag as is clearly a mass generic msg as doesn't state your position
SR do say dont FE and when you do its all on you there are rules about new vendors asking for FE thats why no listings said anything about FE then they msg everyone saying "generic mass produce unspecific copy paste you need to FE"
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:o Good morning all! I'm not going to say it! :-X Not gonna do it!
OKAY! Lol! Why do y'all FE? R ya retarded? I have been on The Road here since 2011! The only reason I have blown over ฿14,000 here is because of the 'Escrow' protection! In all that time and closing on 60 packages I have never lost a dime!
DON'T EVER FINALIZE PAYMENT BEFORE IT IS IN YOUR HOT GRUBBY LITTLE HANDS! Finalize immediately after it's there, but NOT BEFORE! God damnit all! >:(
I have been asked to FE a dozen times and each time I said no thank you and took them off my list for life! They may have had the best what ever that ever will be, but what separates a recreational user of ANY drug and what is known better as a 'junkie' is that you don't act like one! Finalizing early is just weak and shows the vendor right from the get go - that you're a junkie and they treat you accordingly - eventually!
I ordered from PlanetExpress for my first time Saturday. The next day I got the ''we ask that you finalize for the shipped order early ....' bs and knew instantly that they just tied up my coins. 6 more days to resolution to get my coins back. Shrug? Better than loosing them!
You are never showing respect to a vendor by finalizing early. You're fucking yourself and them! Escrow was and has been in place from the concept of Silk Road to protect you and the vendor. FE should be outlawed!
Sorry bout your losses - any/all of ya! But I have been preaching to NOT fall for that one for going on years now and still the pages of what ever thread you read are full of angry ripped off people that ignore advice from veteran buyers and Silk Road management!
I sorta give up ... ??? .. but next time you feel like FE'ing for any stupid reason - just send your coins to me and than that way at least one of us will be happy!
Love ya!
oZ 8)
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so, this vendor's page is gone and i'm left wondering, since he's gone, and my BTC's are still in escrow, how long is it going to take before i can get my cash back? I think i'll be able to resolve the issue later on tonight, but is it still going to take over 24hrs before i see the bitcoins? I really wanna get some shrooms to see if they can help with anxiety.
thanks
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Planet is no longer a vendor! :O
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Anyone know anything about Emporium Express? It seems like a Planet Express all over again. New vendor, did lots of games so racked up a ton of transactions with 5 of 5 feedback and now they are asking for FE on everything. They even mention they branched off of another vendor. Hmmm.....
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Niiiiice!!!!!
Easy way to get me some bitcoins AS ppl never learn :)
I`m gonna be a vendor soon¡!!!!!!!
Watch out I`m coming for your bitcoins ;)
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Niiiiice!!!!!
Easy way to get me some bitcoins AS ppl never learn :)
I`m gonna be a vendor soon¡!!!!!!!
Watch out I`m coming for your bitcoins ;)
just shoot me the link i will be down for 500 bucks. and i dont give a shit what your selling. Because what ever you have i will love it!. I cant wait.
here is my review for you now: 5/5 did not receive anything yet , vendor not real yet, but will FE for trusted vendor when they are ready. Will update when it never arrives. ;D. Thanks will order again. ;)
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anyone know what happens to the $ in escrow for those of us who were smart enough not to FE? How long are those coins going to be tied up?
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ANYTIME YOU SEE FE, IT's a SCAMMM!!
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guys a scumbag total scam please do not FE people honest vendors should not require FE trust works 2 ways
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Would love to know when my BTC can be released (didn't FE) so I can support a real vendor.
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I've got 8 hours until I can hit that resolve button. I wonder how long it'll take to get my BTC back if I stayed in escrow. sad face
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Here is an interesting PM I got from PlanetExpress when I ordered a 0.1 of BTH from him when he first started (I was the fifth person to 'get a sample'". Here is the message he sent me when I questioned why it hadn't arrived 12 days after sending priority:
Message 1:
"PlanetExpress I packed your sample in a priority flat rate box using a $5.60 prepaid stamp. I dropped it in a blue box, later to discover that flat rate priority envelopes cost $5.60, whereas the flate rate boxes cost $5.80, so its very likely that USPS never sent it out due to the $0.20 discrepancy."
Message 2:
"PlanetExpress Ok so what happened was that your package was not even sent out by USPS because I placed a $5.60 pre-paid priority stamp onto a flate rate priority box, later to realize that the boxes cost $5.80, whereas the envelopes cost $5.60. This was a complete screw-up on my end and isn't something that would effect you. I do apologize immensely for this, and I want all of my customers to be completely satisfied, so I will ship you another sample as soon as my listings are up, just message me and I'll do another CL."
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So i guess its the waiting game now, a lot of bitcoins are tied up. I wonder if that many people FE'd how many bitcoins are being held in escrow of the people who didn't FE. Probably over $50,000.
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If you didnt FE then message support on the main site, he has been demoted, and they will return the funds in escrow..not sure which thread I read that in but one of the forum mods said that..and it makes sense, I doubt he is suddenly going to be found innocent and reinstated..
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I did message support asking for the escrow to be released, but so far I haven't heard anything. :(
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I messaged Support on the main site and asked them if they could cancel my order and they were very fast to respond and take care of me and my money was released, if anyone else is stuck in escrow you should message them too.
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I messaged Support on the main site and asked them if they could cancel my order and they were very fast to respond and take care of me and my money was released, if anyone else is stuck in escrow you should message them too.
Thanks, Jarod... I just messaged Support asking if they could release my BTC. If not, I have 2 more days to wait to "resolve" but I want it ASAP as I do not want to be tied to this creep anymore. Fingers crossed.
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Happy to report that support released my escrow today. I feel terrible for all the peeps who FE'd
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<<Anyone know anything about Emporium Express? It seems like a Planet Express all over again. New vendor, did lots of games so racked up a ton of transactions with 5 of 5 feedback and now they are asking for FE on everything. They even mention they branched off of another vendor. Hmmm.....>>
I did check them out after your suggestion. My gosh, they certainly do remind me of PlanetExpress. They've been here 17 days and already they are asking everyone to FE. If you look at their feedback it is mostly from people who have FE'd and are waiting for their orders. For a new vendor, they have an awfully wide variety of offerings....
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Man forget this lame FRAUD!! Anyone that does FE, you should instantly become more cautious.
Boycott all Vendors that FE.
Anyone need (1OZ - Bulk) Hit me up
***A-AAA Quality MARIJUANA VENDOR***
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/31f086a868
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Many people, myself included, posted many many times on this thread before the scheme crashed and warned everyone this vendor had SCAM written all over him. There were warning signs galore and just a little common sense would have saved many people having their money tied up (best case scenario) or their money lost (worst case). Instead people continued to order form the douchebag because the deal was "too good to be true".
If you aren't going to listen to the little voice in your head at least listen to the people on this forum who posted REASONS for not dealing with PE, not feelings but fact based reasons. It was obvious this was a scam and I feel badly for those who lost money, but if you read this thread shortly after it was created and still FE'd then I don't feel badly for you. You were warned but chose to throw your money away anyway and proved the age old saying "there's a sucker born every minute".
Don't be a sucker again. DON'T FE!!!!!!!, DO YOUR RESEARCH AND LISTEN TO THOSE WHO LEARNED THE HARD WAY. IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THEN IT IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. DON'T THROW YOUR MONEY AWAY, IF YOU REALLY DON'T NEED IT PLEASE SEND IT TO ME!
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So I am probably one of the few that did NOT FE..I saw page, after page, after page, right after the products where gone and the vendor sent the e-mail not requiring ppl to finalize early, just "nicely asking" in order to re-supply stock:
Thank you for your order. It is ready to be shipped out now. If you could please finalize early it would help me greatly in cashing out my bitcoins and restocking my inventory quickly.
Best,
Planet Express
My VERY first order on here I lost what is now about 2BTC; not much for some but A LOT for my first transaction. I as a fool, FE'd and the vendor account was soon suspended, and the rest, as they say, is History.
I told Planet Express I would under no terms FE (going back to that experience over a year 1/2 ago). I will go to resolution in two days, and I am confident (just as I have NOT received anything in a week +) SR Admin will pull through. Escrow in my opinion, is my (and any other legit purchaser's) only way to hold on to a transaction. Bottom line, glad I am not on that list of "FE for trusted vendor" pages. One Month does not make a trusted vendor. Interested to hear from anyone else that DID NOT FE with Planet Express in the last two weeks..
Best-
iujmhar
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I sadly lost $50 to this scumbag but at least it was just $50. The 2 other time I was asked to FE both NumberFive and Haizenberg came through like champs with great product, fast shipping, and perfect stealth.
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I ordered from PE 10 days ago, small 6APB order. When asked for FE I checked the feedback and then headed over here. Newish user and it doesn't seem like rocket science to do those checks....
Replied to PE, asked him to cancel my order and was told it was in transit. Never arrived. I've messaged support to release my escrow.
Thanks to all here for conformation of the scam!
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i love futurama
yeahhh buddy :))
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ANYTIME YOU SEE FE, IT's a SCAMMM!!
Your an idiot...Just because a vendor asks for FE does not automatically make it a scam!
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ANYTIME YOU SEE FE, IT's a SCAMMM!!
Your an idiot...Just because a vendor asks for FE does not automatically make it a scam!
YOUR THE IDIOT... 90% it is a scam. This has been proven over and over again.
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You're both idiots . It's you're, not your.
Anyway, I agree with Shazmo. I FE'd for a long standing top 3% vendor (no choice) and I was worried but it came through. I have since FE'd on another top 1% 1yr-plus vendor and fully expect to be happy with that outcome too.
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:( wow its still going on ffs silkroad. wtf / :'(
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:( wow its still going on ffs silkroad. wtf / :'(
why you got this F.E rule anyway Sr? mods? (earn it guys ffs)
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Bow
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Re: Emporium Express
I've had good luck receiving orders on SR, even FE orders, so I didn't hesitate too much when this new but seemingly reputable vendor asked me to. He hasn't logged in in 2 days now and I found this thread and I'm getting really nervous... Looking like I just threw away some BTC.
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these scammers will never go away, because it's too easy to talk people into FEing. especially if the item is like 50 bucks.
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How do you contact silk road support to get funds released from escrow?
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On main site bottom right side button that says support
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futurama?
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It sucks i put my order into resolution 2 days ago and im still waiting, why the heck arent SR admins getting on this considering this is a special case which they clearly know was a massive scam why hold up our money any longer!! Also will i be getting by BTC back or $ value at the time i bought it? At this point i stand to gain a little bit $ money wise if i get the same BTC back. whats even more ridiculous is i got the automated letter warning me its been past 10 days and a reminder to release funds if i got my item! How stupid! So does this mean i still have to ride out another 3 days or so for the full 17 days since i placed the order and it was placed into transit?? They should just automatically refund everyone who has a pending order with hims money back and especially if they have already made a resolution claim!! I could use that BTC with legitimate vendors right now. Damn i never want to get myself in this situation ever again it takes way too long to get your money back what a headache. Does make me realize not to make risky deals with people, including spending more than your willing to loose overseas, ordering a new product from a vendor who has never sold it before has even the possibility of looking like they screw up orders from time to time etc. Im only going with for sure vendors from now on, pay the price and get the goods as expected and save the headache. lesson learned, glad my bs sensors went off when he asked me to FE as i was one the of first few to be asked. Only two people had FE'd when i brought it to the forums attention and promptly told him to shove the FE up his a**. Well i didnt put it like that but i said dude you say im new havent proven myself? I had already looked at his previous sales and was already suspect before he asked me to FE so when he pulled that number i said hell no you have no track record even if SR makes it appear that you have some rep, i looked already and saw he barely had sold $300 total worth of confirmed sales at that point. Fu%*ing guy bought himself a new kia with the money he made off with in a weekend. Kinda makes me not like the new review system as it was easy for me to look at every deal he had done at that point and i knew exactly every deal he had done on a few pages, now you get like 4 reviews on one page that are all over the board and really arent very helpful in the first place. Ok im gonna stop talking im clearly high and going on a tangent at this point.
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Did you message support on the main site? I think people have gotten their refunds quicker that way. I would message support, asap. Hopefully you will have your btc back quickly.
Btw..check out the vendor KetamineOcean...look familiar?
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bump ;)
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:( wow its still going on ffs silkroad. wtf / :'(
why you got this F.E rule anyway Sr? mods? (earn it guys ffs)
bump ;)
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When it's a confirmed scammer like this, definitely email support directly on site. They are very helpful and quick.
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I can't believe people took this guys bait. I was disgusted when I saw his vendor profile because it was so obvious.
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I heard this guy is now 'KetamineOcean'
and i placed an order with him last thursday for four Vicodin and havent heard shit, not even marked in transit yet. guess ill just wait a few more days and cancel the order,,,,,asshole.
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I heard this guy is now 'KetamineOcean'
and i placed an order with him last thursday for four Vicodin and havent heard shit, not even marked in transit yet. guess ill just wait a few more days and cancel the order,,,,,asshole.
i guess you were born a minute ago? amazing
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I sincerely hope he follows through. He would get the most glowing review from me, honestly.
I've picked up 1,000 hits locally for a similar price to what I just paid him, so it's certainly REASONABLE that he could post it at that price, make a much smaller profit - then just have a decent customer base because of a ton of stellar orders.
My hopes just aren't high. I'm not worried that I'll lose my money - either I'll get my order, be elated - and be a repeat customer.
Or he'll run off, SR will return my money from escrow - and I'll only have wasted my time.
He tells me my order will be here Wednesday, so I don't have too long to wait to see what's up.
Listen, insisting that you'll give him a good review is not going to make him send you something if he has nothing to send, and no intent to send it -to begin with.
I know everyone likes to hope that the "too good to be true" prices are "true" but, sadly, they're not.
Everyone on SR would give this guy "an outstanding review" if he "came through" with Lbs for 1/2 price, and sheets for $200, and roxies for $15 each. But that's all just very unrealistic.
What's he telling you? This is promotional price? That the prices will come up soon? Is that why he's adding more and more under-priced listings in EVERY category?
So this ONE guy knows where to get EVERY drug cheap enough to completely UNDERCUT everyone on SR?
Doubt it.
Actually, a lot of vendors offer their supplies for VERY VERY cheap when they first join. So far I've gotten a gram of MDMA for 25$, .5g speed paste and .5g MDMA for 1$, 5g of AAA weed for 25$, and lastly 4 oxycodones for 20$, and they ALL arrived.
New vendors win publicity and reputation by undercutting everyone and selling at a loss for a little bit. It's called competition. The prices can be too good to be true sometimes, but that doesn't mean that all vendors are out to scam you. And I gave him a very nice review because I got his 6-APB cheap, and it was great quality and pure.
Yes, but you're failing to make mention of the near-unlimited number of possible items per listing. And the fact that he is not offering these as "special promotional prices" on certain items, but is undercutting every other price on all of his listings across the board by 50%. He has not began raising the prices.
Don't vouch for a scammer just because you received a couple morsels of 6-APB through a listing.
Uniwiz got 2 lbs of trim for dirt cheap off The Top Shelf, vouched, and then all TTS's FE'd got fucked base on Uni's word. Don't be a Uniwiz.
You are misinformed, disingenious, or just ignorant.
I going with the latter.
The fact is I got lots of stuff from TTS, long before his FE scam. Even though I trusted TTS, I questioned all the FE's.
The answer is always simple. Don't FE
Instead ignorant people blame others.
Welcome back, Uniwiz, they still love you;)
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I just posted my experience with KetamineOcean here :
https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=208511.msg1507368#msg1507368
This guy is no doubt a scammer, and now I got caught up in it! But at least I didn't FE ... I never will!!
Now I'm trying to figure out how to get this resolved ASAP so I can place a new order with those funds now in escrow... ugh...
Thanks for tying up my money you fucking dueschbag!!!
Everyone else---- Do not order from KetamineOcean EVER!!
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I called it exactly...I knew it was a scam and another 35 FE'd...DO NOT FE for new vendors!!! duh
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I heard this guy is now 'KetamineOcean'
and i placed an order with him last thursday for four Vicodin and havent heard shit, not even marked in transit yet. guess ill just wait a few more days and cancel the order,,,,,asshole.
i guess you were born a minute ago? amazing
guess so, least he canceld my orders tho
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I called it exactly...I knew it was a scam and another 35 FE'd...DO NOT FE for new vendors!!! duh
when are people going to learn...dont ever FE .... if a vendor cant vend without you FE'ing go somewhere else , that means there are seriously issues with that vendors style of business....there are many more vendors who dont require it nor need it cause the customer base and cash flow is good and they are legit, dont ever FE for anyone i dont care if you have done 10000 transactions with them dont FE cause you never know which transaction will be the rogue one and usually its the one that costs the most!
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ANYTIME YOU SEE FE, IT's a SCAMMM!!
I agree with your comment on FE with one exception; I do have to put a plug in for BCPLTD. He sells in .1g increments and requires FE and he has never let any buyer down. The guy is as trustworthy as they come, his feedback is like 14 pages long, all FE and all filled. I have 4 transactions with him and all have been perfect in every respect. When it comes to FE with him I have no hesitation. However he is an exception, in most cases you are correct; if someone asks you to FE there is a good chance you won't get your order.