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Title: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 02, 2012, 07:38 am
He started off fine over at Topix.com which is another drug selling site, just not as sophisticated as Silk Road. He made 3-4 positive transactions and then decided to rob everyone. Right after he was done there and no one trusted him he came here to rob you guys. I am known to bust scammers over at Topix so I came here to protect everyone from losing there money here too. He will wait until he has a lot of orders finalized early, and then burn everyone when it's really worth it. Look below. I copied and pasted what people said and then provided the links for evidence.


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F2F Long Island FIRE H and Opana

bobbybumpsalot: thecloser29 @safe-mail.net

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TOUHGPC3Q004IHB1I/post1


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OCExpress: bobbybumpsalot is not a legit seller!!!!!!
metup with him and he took forever to arrive, made me pay for his transportation costs, had no clue how to get to an easy place and hassled me all through the work for directions, made me drive to meet him half way in the end anyway, only had half the amt of opanas I was supposed to get, shorted me by .6 on the blo i got (even after i told him it looked short and he put more in my bag so it must've been .8 short at first!)

WORST OF ALL THOUGH, the second time we were supposed to meet, he said he needed $30 up front for transportation to me (I know I know, Im an idiot for even trying a second time, but we all do dumb things for our addictions) and I needed to greendot money pack it to him, but he could only withdraw multiples of 20 from the atm so i needed to send $40. I sent the number for the $40 pack, and he said he was leaving home, then getting on the train, then transferring, then getting on the subway...after he was so incompetent with directions the first time, I should have been alarmed when he had no questions the second time, but I was somewhat optimistic because we had met once already. Bottom line is that at one point he stopped answering me altogether and did not reply for another day or so when he gave me some bullsh*t excuse. So he scammed me for $40 and lied the entire time while he was wasting my time as well.

DO NOT DO ANY BUSINESS WHATSOEVER WITH bobbybumpsalot AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT MY MISERABLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE LOWLIFE SCAMMER, YOU CAN PM ME

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post28

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Yupnyc: In response to the last poster, I had a very similar experience with bobbybumpsalot. He was wonderful the first time, on time etc. And then the 2nd time I tried to meet up with him he jerked ,e around for 2 days, tried to get me too front him cash for transport, told me he got robbed and then finally after 2 days of this shit he said he could meet up. Long story short he never showed up while I waited there for an hour for him. What a low-life. Moral of the story Don't work with Bobby

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post29

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 02, 2012, 07:39 am
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zlzleez: was supposed to get my overnighted $200 order on saturday it is now monday and nothing...

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TOTT92UALMUL86RLE/post13

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zlzleez: well i wanted to do a f2f with you.. you said no. also how come you never got back to me on the phone but on here you post? please let me kno if u shipped today like you said you would. thank you, not saying u r a scammer i am saying i hate beig scammed and i hoppe this isnt one

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TOTT92UALMUL86RLE/post18

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zlzleez: bobby any updates for me it has been a total of 20 days now.

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post36

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zlzleez: also bobby not trying to hassle you dude i am just wanting for what i paid for you can understand i hope, Is it true you were busted and arrested a few weeks ago i got some random guy messaging me about this

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post37
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 02, 2012, 07:41 am
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bobbyrobbedme: I sent bobby over $400 4 weeks ago and never received my blues. He's told me excuse after excuse. The first time things went well but I only sent $150 then he got me to send more money by throwing in free pils and he robbed me. He started ignoring me last week and now he blocked my cell phone completely. Now he's over at silk road making tons of money. I'm going to dime him out over there. Screw bobby!

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TOUHGPC3Q004IHB1I/post3

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 02, 2012, 07:42 am
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chop24: SCAM TOLD U HES A SCAM/NARC

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post35

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Murray the K: NOT!, Bobby is true blue

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TOTT92UALMUL86RLE/post22

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chop24: yeah tru LE

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TOTT92UALMUL86RLE/post23
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Joeyjojojr on April 02, 2012, 07:55 am
Damn... I would think he would've at least changed his name! Sucks for whoever got burned......
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: mdmafx on April 02, 2012, 08:13 am
SR does offer escrow, if buyers don't use it they will eventually get scammed by this guy or someone else.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Limetless on April 02, 2012, 08:52 am
SR does offer escrow, if buyers don't use it they will eventually get scammed by this guy or someone else.

Yeah that's one of the things that really appealed to me and made me decide to Join SR, it has an Escrow system and you can tell the people who run it actually give a fuck about their clients whether they are buyer or sellers.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: kidx on April 02, 2012, 03:25 pm
You're meeting up with people in person? What the fuck is wrong with you? The fact that you fell for these bullshit scams is really beside the point that you shouldn't be meeting up in person to buy illegal narcotics from someone you met online? I seriously think you must be full of shit.

Don't run around calling people narcs just to try to make people suspicious of them. That is not cool, it will hurt business on Silk Road, and it's the type of thing that could shut us down. You don't have any evidence that he's a narc based on anything you posted, and you just said that to be an asshole.

I'm starting to feel like the days of SR are numbered from running into idiots like you that have absolutely no sense and who are such loudmouth idiots about everything. I'll bet you told everyone you could all about how you met someone online and were going to buy drugs from them...and I even bet you are blabbing to everyone about Silk Road. If you do something stupid and get ripped off, leave feedback for them about what happened and shut the fuck up about everything else.

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: SouthSquareBiz on April 02, 2012, 05:06 pm
kidx, are you responding to the OP OR are you responding to the people that weren't to bright on Topix that the OP is talking about?
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: qrbr6 on April 02, 2012, 05:18 pm
what the fuck isn't topix just a normal forum on the internet?

why the fuck are you buying drugs on there are you retarded?
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Veetano on April 02, 2012, 05:24 pm
Look, it doesn't fucking matter if people are stupid enough to buy drugs from somebody online by meeting in person.

It doesn't matter if this TheCloser29 guy is a narc either.

The fact is, the evidence is more than obvious that he is a huge scammer, and/or has a lot of sketchy rumors floating around him by a LOT of people and that everyone should use extreme caution if dealing with him. At least at SR we have the Escrow system as a safeguard... but it can't protect in every scenario!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: aliasx on April 02, 2012, 05:46 pm
You're meeting up with people in person? What the fuck is wrong with you? The fact that you fell for these bullshit scams is really beside the point that you shouldn't be meeting up in person to buy illegal narcotics from someone you met online? I seriously think you must be full of shit.

Don't run around calling people narcs just to try to make people suspicious of them. That is not cool, it will hurt business on Silk Road, and it's the type of thing that could shut us down. You don't have any evidence that he's a narc based on anything you posted, and you just said that to be an asshole.

I'm starting to feel like the days of SR are numbered from running into idiots like you that have absolutely no sense and who are such loudmouth idiots about everything. I'll bet you told everyone you could all about how you met someone online and were going to buy drugs from them...and I even bet you are blabbing to everyone about Silk Road. If you do something stupid and get ripped off, leave feedback for them about what happened and shut the fuck up about everything else.

Do you not realize he quoted users from Topix? I don't think he ever claimed he met up with someone IRL... You really need to stop coming into threads and flaming the OP. Especially when you misinterpret the posts every time and make yourself look like an asshole.

This guy came on to warn us about a potential scammer. He provided a bit of evidence as well. So good on him.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Prawl42 on April 02, 2012, 06:14 pm
one word, escrow! if you go out of it with relatively new vendors then what happens happens. it sucks but its the truth!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 02, 2012, 06:26 pm
Let's get something straight. I do not know thecloser29, I have never bought anything from him, and I have never bought drugs online or met anyone f2f from online to purchase drugs.

The section of Topix was set up so CPP's like myself could discuss dosing, medication changes, withdrawls, and meet other people who have to spend the rest of their life on pain management.

In my 4 years there Topix has undergone some serious changes. When the economy took a turn for the worst, POS's like TheCloser29 came on there to rob and take advantage of CPP's who either finished their prescription's too early or got cut off from their physician without proper tapering.

I have become the unoffical scambuster over there, if you will. I saw that someone who got taken advantage of said that he was over at Silk Road, and I decided to take it upon myself to come here and post the evidence for everyone because I know a lot of people can't figure out TOR. I do know that there are other Topix members here, though. So hello to any of you who may know me.

I am not any of those people, nor do I know any of them. Some are unregistered, and some are long time contributors of the forum. No one over there screams wolf if it's unwarranted. There are quite a few positive transactions that occur on Topix and positive feedback is provided. However, there are 100 more people that get scammed out of there money for every legitimate person on there.  As far as people saying the guy is a NARC, I do not have any information other than what was posted by 2 different members there. Which is why I said "possible narcotics officer".

You can do what you wish with this information. Take care.

- YTD

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: kidx on April 02, 2012, 09:00 pm
Look, it doesn't fucking matter if people are stupid enough to buy drugs from somebody online by meeting in person.

It doesn't matter if this TheCloser29 guy is a narc either.

The fact is, the evidence is more than obvious that he is a huge scammer, and/or has a lot of sketchy rumors floating around him by a LOT of people and that everyone should use extreme caution if dealing with him. At least at SR we have the Escrow system as a safeguard... but it can't protect in every scenario!

It totally matters, because that is some stupid shit to be doing, and calling somebody a narc or implying that there are undercover police on the Silk Road is reckless.

There are scams everywhere on the Internet, and if you're not smart enough not to fall for their bullshit, then you get what you deserve and you should shut your mouth.

I think it would be fine if all you did was post something that said he was a scammer and to use caution, but that's not what you did now was it?
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: kidx on April 02, 2012, 09:04 pm
You're meeting up with people in person? What the fuck is wrong with you? The fact that you fell for these bullshit scams is really beside the point that you shouldn't be meeting up in person to buy illegal narcotics from someone you met online? I seriously think you must be full of shit.

Don't run around calling people narcs just to try to make people suspicious of them. That is not cool, it will hurt business on Silk Road, and it's the type of thing that could shut us down. You don't have any evidence that he's a narc based on anything you posted, and you just said that to be an asshole.

I'm starting to feel like the days of SR are numbered from running into idiots like you that have absolutely no sense and who are such loudmouth idiots about everything. I'll bet you told everyone you could all about how you met someone online and were going to buy drugs from them...and I even bet you are blabbing to everyone about Silk Road. If you do something stupid and get ripped off, leave feedback for them about what happened and shut the fuck up about everything else.

Do you not realize he quoted users from Topix? I don't think he ever claimed he met up with someone IRL... You really need to stop coming into threads and flaming the OP. Especially when you misinterpret the posts every time and make yourself look like an asshole.

This guy came on to warn us about a potential scammer. He provided a bit of evidence as well. So good on him.

I was replying to whoever made the statement, and yes, I know that it was clearly not the op, at least, the op was trying to make it seem like it wasn't him. But regardless, I know that whoever wrote will come here and read it, because either it's all the same person, or the op will tell or has told the person about this forum.

This guy came on the forum being an idiot claiming that there was an undercover narcotics agent making deals on the Silk Road, and that's beyond disgraceful. The fact that he did that weakens his credibility so much in my eyes, and yours as well for defending him.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 02, 2012, 10:22 pm
Two different people from two different locations who have spoke to him or met him said that the guy was a NARC. I merely presented said information to Silk Road and even said "POSSIBLE Narcotics Agent", and I'm the one being disgraceful to Silk Road? If you're so concerned about it and question the legitimacy of said claims, go over to Topix and ask either of those members why they presented those claims to the community.

Do I personally think the guy is a NARC? Probably not, but it was said by 2 different people for a reason and that should be alarming for someone looking to purchase from him. Especially considering that someone from his area was busted on Craigslist in the past month for selling Oxycodone. That tells me that the police in Long Island are going online to catch drug dealers. Ask yourself why would someone lie about that? It's not like someone was competing with him from his area.

Do I personally think the guy is a scam artist? 100%. The evidence is overwhelming.

Would I purchase from him if I were going to buy from someone on SR? Absolutely not. Look at the date of his last post on Topix. It's clearly obvious that after he was outed as a scammer and no one would buy from him anymore he moved on to Silk Road. If you look at his last few threads, in comparison with the threads he posted when he signed up, no one even responded to him. Why? Because he's a nice honest guy?

Are you bobbybumpsalot or his partner in this scam? You're awfully defensive for someone that has no involvement in this.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: pharod on April 02, 2012, 10:43 pm
Two different people from two different locations who have spoke to him or met him said that the guy was a NARC. I merely presented said information to Silk Road and even said "POSSIBLE Narcotics Agent", and I'm the one being disgraceful to Silk Road? If you're so concerned about it and question the legitimacy of said claims, go over to Topix and ask either of those members why they presented those claims to the community.

Do I personally think the guy is a NARC? Probably not, but it was said by 2 different people for a reason and that should be alarming for someone looking to purchase from him. Especially considering that someone from his area was busted on Craigslist in the past month for selling Oxycodone. That tells me that the police in Long Island are going online to catch drug dealers. Ask yourself why would someone lie about that? It's not like someone was competing with him from his area.

Do I personally think the guy is a scam artist? 100%. The evidence is overwhelming.

Would I purchase from him if I were going to buy from someone on SR? Absolutely not. Look at the date of his last post on Topix. It's clearly obvious that after he was outed as a scammer and no one would buy from him anymore he moved on to Silk Road. If you look at his last few threads, in comparison with the threads he posted when he signed up, no one even responded to him. Why? Because he's a nice honest guy?

Are you bobbybumpsalot or his partner in this scam? You're awfully defensive for someone that has no involvement in this.

Thanks for informing us over here at SR. Earlier this morning, he tried to convince me to FE because he 'needed the money to ship my order' due to his incompetence. I thought about it, but then I realized that if he ended up being a total scammer I would be out $166 dollars. Politely, I declined and told him that I'll wait. My order has been processing for nearly 4 days now and as soon as I'm able, I'm going to cancel my order unless he actually comes through and ships it before that. I really, really hope he isn't a narc but now you have got me really worried.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: OctoMommy on April 02, 2012, 11:27 pm
Well... Hope he's not a NARC... Glad I use a legit but also fake address:)

Here is some info on the Closer's issues he's been having recently... Read and make your own decision. IMO - He's making attempts to fix things, but then I just read this thread so I'm back at square one. I'm going to notify TheCloser of this thread and allow him a chance to defend himself...

Honestly - I'll be suprised if the guy sticks around, he's dealt with a lot of shit lately. If he does make all this right and comes through, I'll be one of the 1st to give him Kudo's:)

Oh yea.. Here's the other thread on him - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=8139.60;topicseen
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: pharod on April 02, 2012, 11:47 pm
Well... Hope he's not a NARC... Glad I use a legit but also fake address:)

Here is some info on the Closer's issues he's been having recently... Read and make your own decision. IMO - He's making attempts to fix things, but then I just read this thread so I'm back at square one. I'm going to notify TheCloser of this thread and allow him a chance to defend himself...

Honestly - I'll be suprised if the guy sticks around, he's dealt with a lot of shit lately. If he does make all this right and comes through, I'll be one of the 1st to give him Kudo's:)

Oh yea.. Here's the other thread on him - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=8139.60;topicseen

I feel the same way about him; my feelings are completely mixed. He seems to be trying to make things right and I can understand that people do get bad shit (especially if you cop off the street). Regardless, I know that if I was going to sell on this website I would ensure that I had a trustworthy supplier, partner, and any other supply chain aspects. I'm not going to ask to cancel my order prematurely because I still have faith that he'll ship it but there is so much conflicting information going around one cannot help but feel a bit worried. This is my first order on this website so I am understandably anxious about all of this.
Title: thecloser29: pretty sure he's not a scammer, but will update with resolution
Post by: hbjk on April 03, 2012, 12:42 am
I'm in the same boat here. I ordered last week, and finalized early (i know), and said it will be here latest Monday. I logged in today and saw all of this mess. It was a pretty big order, and I am still holding on to hope that I will get refunded. I messaged him probably 8 times today about it, and he responded EVERY time. He says that SR has froze his account so he can't process a refund until that's done. SR - please free up his money so he can send on refunds!

I don't think the guy is a scammer, I really don't. I think he's gotten in over his head, and made some bad decisions. I'm pissed off, and feel violated a bit, but hey, beggars can't be choosers, and I'm hopeful he'll do right by me. He says he is working on getting his accounts in order, and has promised a refund. fingers crossed. Will update.



Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: GORDENRAMSEY on April 03, 2012, 12:42 am

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TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent

YOU FORGOT,"PIECE OF SHIT SCAMMER"
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 03, 2012, 01:13 am
This is the same shit i dealt with also when i was scammed...fucked up. He paid me but vouch for him in no way shape or form. He once wanted to do voice once and it kinda freaked me out. hope he not LE also? yikes
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Devaney1984 on April 03, 2012, 01:15 am
props to youtubedude for letting people know this.  i found it pretty damn fishy that the excuses just kept piling up and piling up about why he was so behind (blaming it on a partner, bad batches, etc), yet he was still taking new orders until they suspended his seller account.  scammer or not, why is someone taking 40 orders if they don't even have the product yet and already have people freaking out about shitty service/no responses from past transactions???  good luck to all.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Limetless on April 03, 2012, 02:58 am
Sounds like a tale of woe from start to finish to me.....
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: yournamehere on April 03, 2012, 03:03 am
Don't mind some of the people on here youtubedude, they need their tinfoil hats tightened.  A little scared of the law.

Appreciate the tip though, always good to know whats real and whats fake these days.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: kidx on April 03, 2012, 03:55 am
Two different people from two different locations who have spoke to him or met him said that the guy was a NARC. I merely presented said information to Silk Road and even said "POSSIBLE Narcotics Agent", and I'm the one being disgraceful to Silk Road? If you're so concerned about it and question the legitimacy of said claims, go over to Topix and ask either of those members why they presented those claims to the community.

Do I personally think the guy is a NARC? Probably not, but it was said by 2 different people for a reason and that should be alarming for someone looking to purchase from him. Especially considering that someone from his area was busted on Craigslist in the past month for selling Oxycodone. That tells me that the police in Long Island are going online to catch drug dealers. Ask yourself why would someone lie about that? It's not like someone was competing with him from his area.

Do I personally think the guy is a scam artist? 100%. The evidence is overwhelming.

Would I purchase from him if I were going to buy from someone on SR? Absolutely not. Look at the date of his last post on Topix. It's clearly obvious that after he was outed as a scammer and no one would buy from him anymore he moved on to Silk Road. If you look at his last few threads, in comparison with the threads he posted when he signed up, no one even responded to him. Why? Because he's a nice honest guy?

Are you bobbybumpsalot or his partner in this scam? You're awfully defensive for someone that has no involvement in this.

Yeah, man, blah blah blah. What the fuck ever. You're a douche.

You have no proof other than 2 people that you don't even know exist and have never met tell you that somebody is a NARC and you repeat it here without anything to corroborate it, so yeah, you're a disgrace.

I'd never fuck with Topix, Craigslist, wherever else your dumb ass goes to get scammed. I have a brain.

Go ahead and make accusations about me too. I actually expected it. My reputation is solid, and yours was soiled from the beginning with all your bullshit, and it gets worse with every reply.

Good luck trying to buy on Silk Road.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: MethylEthyl on April 03, 2012, 05:02 am
Thanks for the heads up King Joey...erm, i mean youtubedude.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: youtubedude on April 03, 2012, 05:07 am
Two different people from two different locations who have spoke to him or met him said that the guy was a NARC. I merely presented said information to Silk Road and even said "POSSIBLE Narcotics Agent", and I'm the one being disgraceful to Silk Road? If you're so concerned about it and question the legitimacy of said claims, go over to Topix and ask either of those members why they presented those claims to the community.

Do I personally think the guy is a NARC? Probably not, but it was said by 2 different people for a reason and that should be alarming for someone looking to purchase from him. Especially considering that someone from his area was busted on Craigslist in the past month for selling Oxycodone. That tells me that the police in Long Island are going online to catch drug dealers. Ask yourself why would someone lie about that? It's not like someone was competing with him from his area.

Do I personally think the guy is a scam artist? 100%. The evidence is overwhelming.

Would I purchase from him if I were going to buy from someone on SR? Absolutely not. Look at the date of his last post on Topix. It's clearly obvious that after he was outed as a scammer and no one would buy from him anymore he moved on to Silk Road. If you look at his last few threads, in comparison with the threads he posted when he signed up, no one even responded to him. Why? Because he's a nice honest guy?

Are you bobbybumpsalot or his partner in this scam? You're awfully defensive for someone that has no involvement in this.

Yeah, man, blah blah blah. What the fuck ever. You're a douche.

You have no proof other than 2 people that you don't even know exist and have never met tell you that somebody is a NARC and you repeat it here without anything to corroborate it, so yeah, you're a disgrace.

I'd never fuck with Topix, Craigslist, wherever else your dumb ass goes to get scammed. I have a brain.

Go ahead and make accusations about me too. I actually expected it. My reputation is solid, and yours was soiled from the beginning with all your bullshit, and it gets worse with every reply.

Good luck trying to buy on Silk Road.

Bobby, I think you missed the point. I'm here to help people. I don't buy drugs online. I get this little blue piece of paper every month from this bald guy in a white lab coat. I then bring that piece of paper to this place called Walgreens. After waiting 10-15 minutes, I give them $20 for my co-pay, and in return I receive 180 tiny little blue pills with "A215" on them. I repeat the process every month. I know that's hard for you to understand Bobby, but I'm not a junkie like you. Or are you the blues connect that Bobby isn't dealing with anymore? Maybe Bobby's aunt that he's waiting on to get her prescription filled for him so he can sell drugs online like a big boy? How about Bobby's neighbor that gives him the IR 10's but doesn't trust him bringing pills into the city, and since Bobby's too much of a broke dick to pay for them up front he can't get them today to pay you back, but maybe tomorrow. Which one of Bobby's imaginary friend's/family/bullshit stories are you?  Maybe we'll just stick with my original thought that you're the real Bobby under another name. Fits the description. Anyways, this is getting fun. Scambuster's to the rescue! Anyone seen Slimer? Can't find that bastard anywhere!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: minorthreat71 on April 03, 2012, 06:33 am
I am known to bust scammers over at Topix so I came here to protect everyone
Let me get this straight you "protect and serve the people."  You're like the law enforcement of the underground drug world, may be, even.... a superhero! 

Shed the underoos, and join the real world.  You're clearly delusional if you think you're protecting "everyone."  Everyone.... you're not doing a good job, While your commitment and reputation is, according to you, world-renown, you're doing more harm than good.

Accepting your postulate as a "scam-buster" and protector of "everyone." I see the counter argument. As a firm believer in social Darwinism, let the problem solve itself.  If the stupid people lose their life-saving - $100, they might just stop coming here.  It's a gross generalization, but you're keeping the dumb fucks around, and scam artist gravitate toward dumb-fucks giving their money away. Less dumb-fucks, less scammers.  Less scammers, less dumbfucks posting dumb fucking shit about losing $30 because they finalized early or bought out of escrow.  GordanRamsey is a perfect example.  I'm inclinded to pay for his loss just to get him to shut-up. 

Problem is... there are too many kids buying here with their allowance, and freaking the fuck out when something goes wrong and customer service won't help.

Solution - go to getbitcoins.org, make your deposit, take a pic of your receipt with your iphone and email it.  45 minutes later, I got bitcoins.  Transfer to SR.  Buy product - within the escrow system.  Buy from the vendors that have a reputation for fast shipping.  3 days later, product. How hard is that?

Parenthetically, I'm excluding the international buyers from the dumbfuck list, they don't have it as easy as the U.S. residents. 
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 03, 2012, 04:10 pm
kidx, shut the fuck up you dumbass.  you sound like someone defending thecloser... are you his partner? lover?  sock puppet?

youtubedue is clearly trying to do the community a favor.  thecloser is obviously a scammer and was suspended by silk road a couple of days ago.  LEO loves to use drug-addicted morons who don't have their shit together as informants, so this is absolutely plausible considering the information on topix indicates that thecloser was arrested for selling narcotics online.

just because you want to engage in weak trolling and wishful thinking doesn't mean you should jump all over someone who goes out of his way to provide us with good information.

kidx go back and crawl down your hole

@youtubedue

Thank you for providing this information

@OctoMommy, Pharod, hbjk

Are you people delusional or just naive?  You people properly belong in the 'dumb-fuck' category.  You have evidence that this guy is a scammer, yet you continue to work with him and 'give him a chance'.   LOL  this is my entertainment for the day!! 

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[the closer is] making attempts to fix things

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I'm going to notify TheCloser of this thread and allow him a chance to defend himself...

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He seems to be trying to make things right and I can understand that people do get bad shit

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I'm not going to ask to cancel my order [with thecloser] prematurely because I still have faith that he'll ship it but there is so much conflicting information going around one cannot help but feel a bit worried.

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I ordered last week, and finalized early (i know), and said it will be here latest Monday.... It was a pretty big order, and I am still holding on to hope that I will get refunded

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I don't think the guy is a scammer, I really don't.

ROFL  ... Seriously people?  Are you that desperate for opiates, that you are willing to ignore overwhelming evidence and facts that thecloser is a scammer?  LOL.   He was suspended by SR you dumbasses!!  TONS of people got burned for FE with thecloser,  and now there is COMPELLING EVIDENCE that he is in fact -- a Topix scammer! -- yet you morons want to 'give him a chance'.   Hahaha  lol  lol.   Have you idiots ever heard of 'selective scammer'?   You people are hillarious , but also really sad .   I guess a fool and his money are soon parted.   

  Social darwinism at work.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Prawl42 on April 03, 2012, 04:15 pm
I am known to bust scammers over at Topix so I came here to protect everyone
Let me get this straight you "protect and serve the people."  You're like the law enforcement of the underground drug world, may be, even.... a superhero! 

Shed the underoos, and join the real world.  You're clearly delusional if you think you're protecting "everyone."  Everyone.... you're not doing a good job, While your commitment and reputation is, according to you, world-renown, you're doing more harm than good.

Accepting your postulate as a "scam-buster" and protector of "everyone." I see the counter argument. As a firm believer in social Darwinism, let the problem solve itself.  If the stupid people lose their life-saving - $100, they might just stop coming here.  It's a gross generalization, but you're keeping the dumb fucks around, and scam artist gravitate toward dumb-fucks giving their money away. Less dumb-fucks, less scammers.  Less scammers, less dumbfucks posting dumb fucking shit about losing $30 because they finalized early or bought out of escrow.  GordanRamsey is a perfect example.  I'm inclinded to pay for his loss just to get him to shut-up. 

Problem is... there are too many kids buying here with their allowance, and freaking the fuck out when something goes wrong and customer service won't help.

Solution - go to getbitcoins.org, make your deposit, take a pic of your receipt with your iphone and email it.  45 minutes later, I got bitcoins.  Transfer to SR.  Buy product - within the escrow system.  Buy from the vendors that have a reputation for fast shipping.  3 days later, product. How hard is that?

Parenthetically, I'm excluding the international buyers from the dumbfuck list, they don't have it as easy as the U.S. residents.

+1 mate
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: pharod on April 03, 2012, 04:23 pm
kidx, shut the fuck up you dumbass.  you sound like someone defending thecloser... are you his partner? lover?  sock puppet?

youtubedue is clearly trying to do the community a favor.  thecloser is obviously a scammer and was suspended by silk road a couple of days ago.  LEO loves to use drug-addicted morons who don't have their shit together as informants, so this is absolutely plausible considering the information on topix indicates that thecloser was arrested for selling narcotics online.

just because you want to engage in weak trolling and wishful thinking doesn't mean you should jump all over someone who goes out of his way to provide us with good information.

kidx go back and crawl down your hole

@youtubedue

Thank you for providing this information

@OctoMommy, Pharod

Are you people delusional or just naive?  You people properly belong in the 'dumb-fuck' category.  You have evidence that this guy is a scammer, yet you continue to work with him and 'give him a chance'.   LOL  this is my entertainment for the day!! 

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[the closer is] making attempts to fix things

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I'm going to notify TheCloser of this thread and allow him a chance to defend himself...

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He seems to be trying to make things right and I can understand that people do get bad shit

ROFL  ... Seriously people?  Are you that desperate for opiates that you are willing to ignore overwhelming evidence and facts that thecloser is a scammer?   He was suspended by SR you dumbasses.  This just sad , but I guess a fool and his money are soon parted.      Social darwinism at work.

You need to chill, man. I didn't FE with thecloser so there was really no way he could scam me. I ordered with him before he was suspended and he had good feedback and people were receiving their orders.

For what it's worth, TheCloser29 cancelled my order and I got my money back. However, I'd be shocked if he comes back after this shit-storm.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: onlyone on April 03, 2012, 04:28 pm
cmon.....if i was a seller i would be in here defending myself if i was falsely accused of something! Where you @ closer29????

Scammers fucking piss me off. They are the very worst kind of people on this planet and shouldnt even be allowed to exist. People that earn their money through hard work and want to play should be able to do that without getting scammed. Its sickening. Sorry for anyone who lost money to any scams here or IRL.

Pay to play right? WTF!

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 03, 2012, 04:32 pm
agreed +1
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 03, 2012, 04:37 pm
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However, I'd be shocked if he comes back after this shit-storm.

Yeah the poor guy!   Making tons of $$ off hapless idiots... I feel sorry for him too .   Luckily it's unlikely SR will let him back, because he's a sociopath.  Though I'm sure he'll be back under a new username, just like Agent Mulder did.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: sunsetlimited on April 03, 2012, 06:36 pm
...I see the counter argument. As a firm believer in social Darwinism, let the problem solve itself.  If the stupid people lose their life-saving - $100, they might just stop coming here.  It's a gross generalization, but you're keeping the dumb fucks around, and scam artist gravitate toward dumb-fucks giving their money away. Less dumb-fucks, less scammers.  Less scammers, less dumbfucks posting dumb fucking shit about losing $30 because they finalized early or bought out of escrow.  GordanRamsey is a perfect example.  I'm inclinded to pay for his loss just to get him to shut-up. 

Problem is... there are too many kids buying here with their allowance, and freaking the fuck out when something goes wrong and customer service won't help.

Solution - go to getbitcoins.org, make your deposit, take a pic of your receipt with your iphone and email it.  45 minutes later, I got bitcoins.  Transfer to SR.  Buy product - within the escrow system.  Buy from the vendors that have a reputation for fast shipping.  3 days later, product. How hard is that?...
+ fecking kids with iphones 1
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 03, 2012, 06:57 pm
Whats the point of defending myself? I basically got fucked out of all the money I spent sending orders out that were refunded by SR.

The closer on Topix is a guy names Jon Scott, NOT ME. Good job getting the info straight before blowing things up.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: onlyone on April 03, 2012, 07:20 pm
Ok, I wasnt involved nor did i make any purchases off of you, but how can you defend taking someones hard earned money and not coming through with the goods?

You are not just robbing someone you are giving them false hope and then fucking them hard without lube. Its shitty. I mean it goes without saying.... Its shitty and low and there is no justification.

I get that selling is easier said than done. I know that everyone wants something for free and people will scam a seller the first chance they get. That doesnt make it ok. If you dont have to money to take a few losses then you shouldnt be in the game. Its not an excuse to scam other people because you yourself were scammed. Infact i feel you should work twice as hard to take care of the people who are honest and if you came through and were an honest person you would have made a lot more money in the long run....rightfully so i might add.

Dont fucking scam hardworking folk who just want to get high and so eagerly await there packages. I wish i had a connect for H because I would come through for the people who deserve it.

DIE ALL SCAMMERS!

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: jbernoit on April 03, 2012, 07:51 pm
I placed a small order with thecloser29 and expect the shipment will arrive sometime this week... let's see what happens
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 03, 2012, 07:56 pm
So not only do i get fucked out of the money from product ive already sent. All of my clients get fucked as well.

All of this without any contact from SR asking my side.

This is BULLSHIR
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 03, 2012, 07:59 pm
Closeing my account and nt giving me the opportunity to fix everything is just wrong, period.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: usehername on April 03, 2012, 08:03 pm
I was refunded by thecloser through an email from SR support. I would highly suggest finding someone more reliable than thecloser. I am sure if he is not a scammer he will have the chance to redeem himself and that will come with time but people pleaaaassseeee stop calling him a narc. There is a huge difference in narcs and scammers and when accusations like that are made it really stirs up a lot of unnecessary stuff. I see that people post that in the subject here and I am like freaking out thinking that the police have my address and it would be only a few days before i got into some trouble. I am sorry for those who lost money to thecloser and I hope it was only a small amount... That being said, if you did get scammed then I hope you have a better eye for legit deals next time.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 03, 2012, 08:06 pm
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Whats the point of defending myself? I basically got fucked out of all the money I spent sending orders out that were refunded by SR.

The closer on Topix is a guy names Jon Scott, NOT ME. Good job getting the info straight before blowing things up.

Okay hang on...  Let me get this straight...

You want us to believe there are actually TWO separate and distinct individuals -- BOTH using the handle 'thecloser29' on internet forums -- who BOTH happen to be online drug dealers from New York....  but are actually two completely different people.    I see why I'm confused now.

 My mistake.  I take back what I said.   Let me clear this up for anyone reading.

(1) There is "thecloser29" on Topix.com,  a dealer from the New York area,  who's email (thecloser29@safe-mail.net) is directly known to everyone on Topix as a prolific selective scammer (as detailed in this thread by youtubedude)....  With many people being scammed out of hundreds of dollars....  A selective scammer who sells Roxi30s , among other opiates.

(2) There is "thecloser29" on Silk Road who claims  he has NO CONNECTION at all to the Topix individual of the same handle (yet apparently knows the IRL name of his evil twin)... All this, even though thecloser29 / Silk Road is coincidentally ALSO from the New York area, ALSO sells opiates (including Roxi30s), and is most well-known for tons of people who never got their packages,, people who lost money during early finalization, etc. 

Okay got it.  So there is "thecloser29" on Topix , the guy you claim is named "Jon Scott"  -- who bears no relation to you... And then there is you (different guy!).  Even though thecloser29/Topix and thecloser29/Silk Road have this in common :

(A) The same EMAIL
(B) The same HANDLE
(C) New York Area
(D) The same product (Roxis30s, other opiates)
(E) Both known for selective scamming

Right.  These are two different people.  Gotcha.   

BTW I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: GORDENRAMSEY on April 03, 2012, 09:30 pm
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Whats the point of defending myself? I basically got fucked out of all the money I spent sending orders out that were refunded by SR.

The closer on Topix is a guy names Jon Scott, NOT ME. Good job getting the info straight before blowing things up.

Okay hang on...  Let me get this straight...

You want us to believe there are actually TWO separate and distinct individuals -- BOTH using the handle 'thecloser29' on internet forums -- who BOTH happen to be online drug dealers from New York....  but are actually two completely different people.    I see why I'm confused now.

 My mistake.  I take back what I said.   Let me clear this up for anyone reading.

(1) There is "thecloser29" on Topix.com,  a dealer from the New York area,  who's email (thecloser29@safe-mail.net) is directly known to everyone on Topix as a prolific selective scammer (as detailed in this thread by youtubedude)....  With many people being scammed out of hundreds of dollars....  A selective scammer who sells Roxi30s , among other opiates.

(2) There is "thecloser29" on Silk Road who claims  he has NO CONNECTION at all to the Topix individual of the same handle (yet apparently knows the IRL name of his evil twin)... All this, even though thecloser29 / Silk Road is coincidentally ALSO from the New York area, ALSO sells opiates (including Roxi30s), and is most well-known for tons of people who never got their packages,, people who lost money during early finalization, etc. 

Okay got it.  So there is "thecloser29" on Topix , the guy you claim is named "Jon Scott"  -- who bears no relation to you... And then there is you (different guy!).  Even though thecloser29/Topix and thecloser29/Silk Road have this in common :

(A) The same EMAIL
(B) The same HANDLE
(C) New York Area
(D) The same product (Roxis30s, other opiates)
(E) Both known for selective scamming

Right.  These are two different people.  Gotcha.   

BTW I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

+1 KARMA ADDED
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 03, 2012, 09:55 pm
Just to add to the mix! And i really wanted thecloser29 to succeed myself. But ultimately my loyalty is to the community. While I was relentlessly trying to get my BTC back. It was via safemail.net and he went by thecloser29@safemail.net. And there was more than once that i thought i was dealing with a sociopath! Also feel responsible for helping get his name off the scam list. So I can see why there taking the action they are. Hope not to many victims evolved, and for fucksake I hope there's no LE involved in this whole mess
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 04, 2012, 09:22 am
ME:Let us first go ahead and correct just about everything you've written
So this makes me a scammer?
HIM:OCExpress: bobbybumpsalot is not a legit seller!!!!!!
metup with him and he took forever to arrive,
made me pay for his transportation costs,
ME:$30 by the way
HIM: he had no clue how to get to an easy place(easy???? Are you kidding me?)
First leg of the trip...South East Long Island mind you. Walk 10 minutes to the bus stop. Arrive at train station 26 minutes before the express train to Penn Station arrives. Board the train and sit in a horribly uncomfortable seat for just about an hour. Over and hour and a half total thus far.
(http://i.imgur.com/2BM8D.jpg)
That is the first part just to give you an idea. Real easy huh?
(http://i.imgur.com/oJZVI.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/6GFiC.gif)
The you have the pleasure of use the infamous NYC Subway System
http://youtu.be/up_Q-R1vY-M
HIM:and hassled me all through the work for directions, made me drive to meet him half way in the end anyway, only had half the amt of opanas I was supposed to get, shorted me by .6 on the blo i got (even after i told him it looked short and he put more in my bag so it must've been .8 short at first!)
ME:You're acting as if you paid fpr 10 pills and I only gave you 5. Plus you're lucky as hell to begin with, not many people aew willing to put that much work into a relatively small sale. Especially for the coke you said was great. but small. The coke I had to spend my money and more time on the subway to retrieve, since I don't typically sell coke. So you cannot fault me for the bags being small, I had a bag of my own. No need to touch yours, not that I would have anyway.



HIM:WORST OF ALL THOUGH, the second time we were supposed to meet, he said he needed $30 up front for transportation to me
ME: Shouldn't be a surprise as I had asked for it the time prior.

HIM:I know I know, Im an idiot for even trying a second time, but we all do dumb things for our addictions and I needed to greendot money pack it to him, but he could only withdraw multiples of 20 from the atm(<E: Obviously true
plus) ATM fess so i needed to send $40. I sent the number for the $40 pack, and he said he was leaving home, then getting on the train, then transferring, then getting on the subway...after he was so incompetent with directions the first time, I should have been alarmed when he had no questions the second time, but I was somewhat optimistic because we had met once already. Bottom line is that at one point he stopped answering me altogether and did not reply for another day or so when he gave me some bullsh*t excuse. So he scammed me for $40 and lied the entire time while he was wasting my time as well.

ME: He conveniently leaves out by far the most important fact. When I finally reached the subway J train, my phone beeped low battery and I told him right away and searched unsuccsesfully for a pen, but everyone had an iPhone or iPad ARGGJJ SInce I had such trouble last time(the subways are confusing and intimidating as hell for someone who mever uses tbem)the day before I had no choice but to conserve the battery. Of course I must have gotten on the last train(Q I think)heading the wrong direction. With no phone to get to him i was forced to male the long trek back emptyhanded.


I doubt he would allow me to but I could post text messages from today and since this incident showing we are on great terms and see each other frequently.       

DO NOT DO ANY BUSINESS WHATSOEVER WITH bobbybumpsalot AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT MY MISERABLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE LOWLIFE SCAMMER, YOU CAN PM ME


http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post28

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Yupnyc: In response to the last poster, I had a very similar experience with bobbybumpsalot. He was wonderful the first time, on time etc. And then the 2nd time I tried to meet up with him he jerked ,e around for 2 days, tried to get me too front him cash for transport, told me he got robbed and then finally after 2 days of this shit he said he could meet up. Long story short he never showed up while I waited there for an hour for him. What a low-life. Moral of the story Don't work with Bobby

http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TSM0TIPETT2DJAGE2/post29
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 04, 2012, 09:42 am
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Yupnyc: In response to the last poster, I had a very similar experience with bobbybumpsalot. He was wonderful the first time, on time etc. And then the 2nd time I tried to meet up with him he jerked ,e around for 2 days, tried to get me too front him cash for transport, told me he got robbed and then finally after 2 days of this shit he said he could meet up. Long story short he never showed up while I waited there for an hour for him. What a low-life. Moral of the story Don't work with Bobby
Sure sounds quite different from the PM you sent me on Topix.. Gang mentality is incredible.

(http://i.imgur.com/YXwC3.jpg)
Once again leaving out information to make me look lke some evil mastermind scammer. Since you want to be cool and join in on the shit throwing; Here's a message from 3 weeks ago YUP looking to meet up again and mentions our prior successful deals and your girly tolerance ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCf5p.png)





Well Im going to sleep, if an ADMIN would please PM ME I have tracking numbers and pictures I need to send you for the packages I'm accused of never having sent and I heard SR refunded them.

What do I do about this? My account is closed for what it obvious nonsense and miscommunication. I was making things right when my ability to do so is taken away.
How am I supposed to refund/reship for those who finalized early and everyone else? I want everyone to receive what they ordered regardless of if I get paid or not.

Please let me fix this and make decisions afterwards.

Goodnight, I will be back tomorrow to destroy the integrity of these statements and accusations,
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 04, 2012, 09:45 am
Just to add to the mix! And i really wanted thecloser29 to succeed myself. But ultimately my loyalty is to the community. While I was relentlessly trying to get my BTC back. It was via safemail.net and he went by thecloser29@safemail.net. And there was more than once that i thought i was dealing with a sociopath! Also feel responsible for helping get his name off the scam list. So I can see why there taking the action they are. Hope not to many victims evolved, and for fucksake I hope there's no LE involved in this whole mess
Of all the people to jump on me??? I repay you like I said, you did what you said you would and removed negative comments.

There will be NO victims if I can have access to my account, even if temporarily. There shouldn't be many as it is.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 04, 2012, 12:32 pm
Just to add to the mix! And i really wanted thecloser29 to succeed myself. But ultimately my loyalty is to the community. While I was relentlessly trying to get my BTC back. It was via safemail.net and he went by thecloser29@safemail.net. And there was more than once that i thought i was dealing with a sociopath! Also feel responsible for helping get his name off the scam list. So I can see why there taking the action they are. Hope not to many victims evolved, and for fucksake I hope there's no LE involved in this whole mess
Of all the people to jump on me??? I repay you like I said, you did what you said you would and removed negative comments.

There will be NO victims if I can have access to my account, even if temporarily. There shouldn't be many as it is.
  Hey I'm sorry to pile on! but I did sort of vouch for you and look at this mess! Whats up! your like a shit magnet? When you came back everyone wanted you to succeed! I really think that? I don't no why they closed your account, but if you haven't noticed there's been more than one scam after another going on! I'm sure there doing damage control. as far as my post you did pay me but my name is a little on the line too. I asked to have you taken off the scam list and now more than one person is claiming your fucking them. You always claim victim but come on...where there's smoke there's fire. your whole story about coming back was now having a partner, and it sounds like hes already gone? You have allot of excuses? I hope your not making the #1 mistake about selling...........never use the product......good luck thcloser29. If you think that post was unfair I will remove it
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: jbernoit on April 04, 2012, 02:03 pm
So if this guy did rip me off, I placed an order with him 5 days ago... is there anything I can do about it? I FE because I'm a new buyer.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: smlz on April 04, 2012, 04:04 pm
If he is a thief and/or LE, he sure is lousy at it b/c I not only got my order today, I had already gotten a refund for it.  Damn those LE thieves giving out free dope!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 04:09 pm
SMLZ...you got your order then you got a refund? your not one of "those" buyers are you..
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 04, 2012, 04:10 pm
Jesus you retards are dense.  That is why he is a SELECTIVE SCAMMER.   He sends out packages to some idiots, who post rave reviews, then scams the other 90% for their money, pitting elements of the community against each other.

Notice he doesn't refute the accusations that he is bobbybumpsalot from Topix (a well-known selective scammer) ... that he is using the EXACT SAME email as this prolific scammer from topix.com (thecloser29@safe-mail.net)  .... instead he just posts a bunch of sound and fury to confuse the issue and confuse anyone reading.  This is the mark of a scammer and possibly a sociopath.  All of you would do best to stay far away from this.

The reason he is so pissed is because he LOST MONEY on this S.R. scam due to the escrow and feedback systems on S.R  (obstacles which prevented him from being successful here at the same scam that was so lucrative over on Topix.com).  This prevented him from cutting and running with everyone's money after sending out 10% of the total packages, keeping the other 90% of the money while sending nothing.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: kingpinirl on April 04, 2012, 04:11 pm
smlz - you need to pay that money back to him then - not fair to have your cake and eat it too.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: smlz on April 04, 2012, 04:18 pm
Hmm now I'm just confused.  What you guys say makes sense, and I was of course going to pay him, but ethically what if he really is a selective scammer?!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 04, 2012, 04:22 pm
Personally I would not pay him, considering the number of people there are on Topix.com who lost HUNDREDS of not THOUSANDS of dollars after sending him money for Roxis, then he sent nothing and stopped responding.

I would feel it's my duty to screw him for the amount of money he had stolen from innocent people .  Simply google "thecloser29" and look over at the threads on Topix to see how many people thecloser29 (aka. bobbybumpsalot)  has ruined.  Hell there are still people on here who lost money on FE and have gotten nothing.

-However- I am *certain* that this guy is a scammer.   But if you are uncertain then the morally right thing to do is to pay him.  Otherwise, enjoy the free drugs and know you are repaying in kind to a sociopathic scammer who has done this same thing to countless number of people, people who probably could not afford to lose that money.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 04:29 pm
first off i would never give my personal info to this retard thecloser and second i cant tell you what to do about paying him but if you have an account the is some what reputable it wont be anymore..
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 04:33 pm
Personally I would not pay him, considering the number of people there are on Topix.com who lost HUNDREDS of not THOUSANDS of dollars after sending him money for Roxis, then he sent nothing and stopped responding.

I would feel it's my duty to screw him for the amount of money he had stolen from innocent people .  Simply google "thecloser29" and look over at the threads on Topix to see how many people thecloser29 (aka. bobbybumpsalot)  has ruined.  Hell there are still people on here who lost money on FE and have gotten nothing.

-However- I am *certain* that this guy is a scammer.   But if you are uncertain then the morally right thing to do is to pay him.  Otherwise, enjoy the free drugs and know you are repaying in kind to a sociopathic scammer who has done this same thing to countless number of people, people who probably could not afford to lose that money.

I agree but I would never do this, my buyer account is flawless.
I saw him on topix and thecloser is boarder line psychotic with his scams SO i think you should get free stuff for having the balls to give this shitty vendor your address.

but how would you not pay him you just told the community you got the package and your money is in escrow isnt it??
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 04:36 pm
ohhhhhhh lol SORRY SMLZ.

I see what happened now... I didnt read the entire thread.

FUCK THE CLOSER DONT PAY HIM!!!!!

I repeat dont pay him lol!!!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: paulfatboy on April 04, 2012, 04:45 pm
I really thought you would refund my money and to set the record straight closer. SR didn't refund my money I sent you. How do I go about getting a refund from SR when I FE like you made me do? I'm the dumb ass for trusting you SR isn't going to refund me a nickel. So the only person is you to refund such a small amount of money. its ridiculous. if you cant afford to pay that amount back, you cant afford to sell here either. You cant even ship to me now because the shipping address I had on there specifically for the order I placed with you is no longer accessible. Shit, I'm not an angry person like I said before, but you know, I am angry now. This is the first time I have been screwed over on SR and whats happening here is a reflection on the entire growth of SR. Imagine being a new buyer and reading this shit? bye bye. see ya. This is my last post about this topic. Fuck it.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: kingpinirl on April 04, 2012, 04:47 pm
I don't know - if I got my product, and ended up w/ a refund before it arrived, I'd pay the vendor, regardless if he ripped others off.  If you got your product, he didn't rip you off (as long as the product is as described).  If it's shit product, then I would consider a partial payment. 

All in all, it's your call man.  He does seem to be a scammer, but who knows, this could just as easily all get cleared up too.  He does seem to be a scammer on Topix, but maybe he will turn out to be a good vendor here (PROBABLY NOT - BUT WHO REALLY KNOWS)
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: loco44 on April 04, 2012, 04:49 pm
thecloser- you actually came thru for me today when everyone else said you weren't. And I was a first time buyer from him. BTW, the closer, I bought with a different nickname than I have on the forums. I feel bad now that SR refunded my money I had in escrow for you and I got the package. Email me at loco44@tormail.net and I'll get your BTC to you.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 04:59 pm
ATTENTION PEOPLE. HE IS A SELECTIVE SCAMMER BUILDING A REP TO PULL THE BIG DIRTY.

SO YOUR 100 DOLLARS ORDERS COMING IN TODAY DOESNT  MEAN SHIT EXCEPT THAT YOUR LUCKY!

Dont justify this guy he has overwhelming evidence against him.
Glad you got your orders though :)
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: loco44 on April 04, 2012, 05:07 pm
perky- perhaps your right. all I'm saying is that I got what I should have paid for and I want to pay for it because he hasn't personally scammed me, he came thru for me. I'm not trying to justify anything, just stating the facts that I got mine and I'd like to pay for it.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 05:10 pm
perky- perhaps your right. all I'm saying is that I got what I should have paid for and I want to pay for it because he hasn't personally scammed me, he came thru for me. I'm not trying to justify anything, just stating the facts that I got mine and I'd like to pay for it.

you will get better karma in your life from not paying him then paying lol idk....he robbed the hell out of everyone on topics. go ahead and pay your a better man then i would have been! i just dont understand it.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: ganjabeliever on April 04, 2012, 05:15 pm
Fuck all you haters and Trolls!

It upsets me to see people saying thecloser29 is a scammer. He is far from that. He might not be the most professional vendor on here. In fact, He's probably just a regular guy doing his thing on here like any of us BUYERS would be if we had an account. I met him, here, on tthe H vendor thread, he was offering to sell opana or H for a super good rate (like 60 mg worth of opana IR's) for 100$ so he could open shop. I trusted an unknown guy with less than 10 posts and 100$ was nothing at the time so if i lost it who cares but if i got what he promised it would be worth the gamble.  Well I originally wanted the H and he refused to sell me the H because all the H around at the time was inferior quality, so instead, he sent me EIGHT opana 10 IR's with Express mail! That was the last deal i did with him probably 2-3 months ago. Recently I made a purchase for one of his HQ NYC stamps but had to cancel due to recent housing problems on my end. But today when i checked the mail I was like "Hell yeah! MY meth and xannie bars came in!" But when i opened both packages, niether were what i expected. 10 valiums I forgot i even bought (cause they were like 2 btc's) from candychick i think and a bag of TC29's H with an appology letter for the trouble I've been going through. Even sent it priority with tracking but i had no idea he was even sending it so i couldn't have tracked it anyways.... I snorted the h just as i started typing and I'm starting to feel all warm and cozy. His H is decent. I've been spoiled by some of our top canadian vendors but this is definately decent stuff. I just want to say thanks to closer and spread his name because he really is a stand up guy in my book. And if you wanna think im actually TC like people ALWAYS do when a scammer gets a good rep, then fuck you too.  Too many vendors have sold to me and i've been around these parts longer than most of you.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 05:30 pm
um ganjabeliever we arnt trolls and haters, we are protecting the people. and what you are doing is very questionable considering it is a proven fact who the closer29 is...put a egg in your shoe and beat it :)


nice FICTIONAL story  on thecloser29 though you show great passion except your ass backwards
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 04, 2012, 05:49 pm
Agreed! Scammer is one thing LE is a whole differert thing!. Show the proof!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Arguekitty on April 04, 2012, 05:54 pm
I bought from him once and he delivered, therefore he's not a scammer
I mean, seriously? How is your case relevant when most people never received anything?
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 05:56 pm
Ok the proof is he is a ny vendor that hustled the shit of everyone on topics.

his name was thecloser29 and what is his new name on SR? THECLOSER29 there isnt another vendor in ny that just decided to pick that name.
and all the time frames from him leaving topics is matched up.

and im pretty sure his account was already banned from admin because everyone got refunds.

if you want to support him go for it im done talking about the jackass when i didnt even order from him i just have a boring job.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 06:00 pm
yea lol he isnt LE he is just a pretty experienced scammer who overlooked the fact we all knew his topixs name shit reputation.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: danksmagee88 on April 04, 2012, 06:10 pm
wow i did not expect my package from thecloser29 to arrive today talk about postal joy!! i also was already refunded by sr but am willing to pay unless someone w legit stats who was directly robbed by him on sr can convince me otherwise (that he forsure did indeed scam you) here or on pm or in h vendor thread..
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 06:12 pm
DONT PAY HIM? GOD DONT YOU KNOW HOW TO READ. READ THIS ENTIRE THREAD..SEND THE COIN TO A MOD be4 you send it to this dip stick
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: jbernoit on April 04, 2012, 06:15 pm
IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN GET MY MONEY BACK? I HAD TO FINALIZE EARLY AND HE HAD GOOD STATISTICS
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: ganjabeliever on April 04, 2012, 06:48 pm
Your such a paranoid ass hole. Goddamn. I made no personal attacks to you. if Saying fuck the haters and trolls hurt you personally than get over it. Its not a fictional story. Why the fuck would i waste my time to make up a story. I really don't care if you believe me or not perky and won't enter this thread anymore, but if you check the h vendors and reviews thread, this same story happened with someone else so do a little browsing you asshole. Maybe he is a selective scammer because you have been scammed but i have never been scammed (on SR). Quite the opposite actually. Maybe he just wanted to be nice and ook me up TWICE because he knew i'd post on the forums but idk. All i know is he's never scammed me and as much money as i spent with him and  everything i've gotten for what i paid for, he's hooked me up better than anybody else on SR, Along with digitalink (How ironic is that?!?!?)
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 07:06 pm
you type to much shut the fuck up

stop defending thecloser29 and i will stop calling you a dip stick.
you make bold statements that are soooo off.

to answer you question you put in parenthesis at the end of your long sob story...its not ironic dipstick, he is building a rep with your tiny orders.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 04, 2012, 07:13 pm
IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN GET MY MONEY BACK? I HAD TO FINALIZE EARLY AND HE HAD GOOD STATISTICS

try talking to admin i heard the were getting refunds from this guy for some reason...

you can thank stupid members that post great reviews because they think the scammer personally likes them.. not mentioning any names.

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: OctoMommy on April 04, 2012, 07:45 pm
LOL - This threads getting personal! Just wanted to let everyone know I received my order from TheCloser....

I ordered a baggie which is usually about a tenth of a gram... This contained about half of that which is a bit disappointing.... Anyway, the quality was okay but obviously I won't be a return customer..

I did receive a refund from SR after TheCloser sent the product... I'll send him the BTC I owe him just based on the fact he tried... I'm not the type to keep the BTC if I received something.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: hbjk on April 04, 2012, 08:23 pm
"Hmm now I'm just confused.  What you guys say makes sense, and I was of course going to pay him, but ethically what if he really is a selective scammer?!"

Hey Smalz... I've got a proposal. Instead of sending the money to him, send it to me for the over 100 bitcoins I got fucked out of.

It's a shame how SR handled this, giving refunds to people, before confirming products where on the way. Now he apparently doesn't have enough funds to pay back the folks who no product was sent to. Good times.

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: ganjabeliever on April 04, 2012, 08:41 pm
So like we both got the same luck huh?  Maybe its cause were not stupid enough to place a larger than small order from a new vendor OM.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: NeuroGirl on April 04, 2012, 09:51 pm


There are scams everywhere on the Internet, and if you're not smart enough not to fall for their bullshit, then you get what you deserve and you should shut your mouth.


LOL! This made me laugh so hard because it is such an absurd statement.

If you get scammed you deserve it and shut up about it?

First of all, everyone who is willing to buy drugs online, or in general for that matter, has the potential to get scammed. EVERYONE. Including you, kidx. I don't care if you only buy from established vendors. Just because they are established, it doesn't mean they are necessarily above scamming, and that's been proven before. Which is not to say that any established vendor WILL scam you, just that if times get tough, there's no telling what people are capable of. And none of us really knows any other one of us on here.

Secondly, if you get scammed, I for one would like to know all about it. I do not want you to shut up about it. Tell me, tell everyone so that we don't get fucked over too. And if you're pissed off and want to let it be known while you're telling us about the scam, go right ahead. Because it's understandable to be angry when you lose your money. Decent human beings have a tendency to think that all other human beings are as decent as they are. It's not "smart," but it's human nature. A curse, if you will. And it leaves one vulnerable to getting screwed.

I don't know just *how*  much of a scammer thecloser is, but it would seem he is a selective scammer at the very LEAST. A bunch of people have been talking about getting ripped off in the H thread, and they are people who are not prone to saying these types of things loosely.

It really sucks that we don't have any reliable US H vendors. The only top notch vendor we had was PJ, and he's taking a break for a while for various reasons.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 04, 2012, 10:56 pm
But seriously folks! At the very least hes in way over his head and a definite headache for DPR. When i fucked up just like ganjabeliever and "got all friendly" He promised to send product! It was not a loan. I was a newb and did the newb mistake of a buy out of escrow. He had no intention of sending anything. Selective scammer!
He did however make the mistake of giving me his email thecloser29@safemail.net. Sooooo anyway, I persevered and kept on him and he paid me in order to start selling again.
I contacted Admin and told them we were good. They took him off the list. Hes been given many many chances and I've even posted that I thought he was very likable. But come on already! I don't have any reason to believe hes LE and its reckless saying he is. I just think he needs a new line of work :-\... And no one should ever FE early. No matter if your new or not! Find another vendor. No matter how much you want to trust someone you just can't....sad as that is.....I hope we can make this thing work.....so many scams these days :-[......be safe 
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 04, 2012, 11:42 pm
I told you I sent the packs out but everyone is so quick to judge.

If you FE and DID not receive a pack, please PM ME and I will either give u tracking info or we work smn out.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 04, 2012, 11:54 pm
I don't know how anyone can honestly believe I came here to scam ANYONE....There are so many people posting about receiving packs I supposedly never sent, because I FORGOT to mark the confirmed!!!

I admit I was wayyy overwhelmed, but I never expected to be called a scammer.

Everyone on Topix that you've posted about have been in touch with me today and are willing to stick up for me, not 1 single person has lost a nickel to me. Have there been fuck ups? Sure have, but they have ALWAYS been rectified as with Lilith.

To those saying to NOT pay me when they received product AND a refund, I hope you have to come back in the thread and admit you were wrong and got your package!!

This turned into something way more than it is, I am not a scammer, I am not  selective scammer. But any vendor knows that when you do an FE you much confirm the order, this losing access to the customers address. I have an encrypted text file with FE'd info but, there's always a possibility I missed one.

NOBODY was scammed, selectively or otherwise. Any scammer would go for BIG BUCKS why would I send out orders worth $200+ but scam someone out of less? It makes no sense.

I am human, I made a mistake and worked with a partner #1 and I had people FE which totally screwed up our shipping routine.
I believe the only people that haven't received ARE people that FE'd, however alot of people that FE'd did receive. I know this seems like selective scamming, but they were no such thing. the were simply oversights and the inability to access the address after FEing.

My sincerest apologizes to everyone involved.

I'm not even going to comment on the LE comment as it's not worth the time.

ANyone that hasnt received, PM ME with some sort of identifying info so I can send your tracking # or make an arrangement.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 05, 2012, 12:47 am
I told you I sent the packs out but everyone is so quick to judge.

If you FE and DID not receive a pack, please PM ME and I will either give u tracking info or we work smn out.

eat the worm mother fucker

of course you sent the orders out they were all small, you ripped off a good friend of mine.

make a new account and try again we remember you from topix and dont deny it..

keep buying from if you dont believe me and see what happens
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 05, 2012, 12:49 am
GIVE UP THECLOSER29 just make a ghost account and start fresh as a selective scammer and chalk this up as a lost. we know who you are and so does the SR admin.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: wellgme on April 05, 2012, 01:49 am
I have been sending you PM's for days to resolve my order which you never mailed and you have stopped reading my PM's for the past 4 days and have still not sent my order. Please open your PM's and actually fix peoples orders like you are stating publicly that you will.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 05, 2012, 07:38 am
I have been sending you PM's for days to resolve my order which you never mailed and you have stopped reading my PM's for the past 4 days and have still not sent my order. Please open your PM's and actually fix peoples orders like you are stating publicly that you will.
You're gonna need to PM ME here, my SR account was deleted before I could even begin to make right.

There's no point in making a ghost account, my menu is pretty distinct.

Please shoot me a PM so I can make arrangements for you.


NOT ONCE since this started have I taken an order or done anything but try to make everyone happy. I have not asked for my account back, just for help in fixing these issues. I haven't been contacted by ANYONE from SR asking me the deal, I woke up and my username didn't exist. Thereby fucking not only me out of $1000s in product that was sent and even more in escrow, customers that FE'd and vendors whom I need to finalize orders for.
I have no way to know who ACTUALLY is owed and who is not because SR refunded people that received packages already and closed my account so I can't do a thing but wait for ppl to contact me here.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 05, 2012, 11:42 am
scammer stop trying to sell me coins and make it right by deleting your shit account. We know you from topixs dick weed.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: smlz on April 05, 2012, 04:42 pm
Just an update- finally got my shipment from TC29 and it was decent quality but a pretty small amount for $30- it got me one medium-sizes shot that has me comfortably high (I have virtually no opiate tolerance though, having not had any in a couple of months) but no more.  So he's at least not a total scammer and seemed very apologetic and eager to make things right despite not even getting paid by people like me- but then of course there are others who did lose money and got nothing while getting strung along... so you be the judge, that's just my experience.  And while I totally get those who are very upset, I am going to compensate him to be fair- what do you guys think?
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: perky on April 05, 2012, 05:18 pm
do what you want... id send it to the new mod....

hes a thief trying to build a rep.

go ahead and pay him brother but i will destroy his name a few of us know who he is

like i said he is building a rep to pull the big dirty.

i mean if you can take my order take the sr admins word they banned his account... they know 2
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: smlz on April 05, 2012, 05:29 pm
cool that makes sense, thanks.  for all the hiccups we encounter, this place really amazes me sometimes in how information flows so freely so people can make informed decisions, as should be the case in any truly fair democratic process.  or maybe i just really appreciate how high i am right now off of something i never had to leave my residence to obtain!
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: rockstafarian on April 05, 2012, 05:49 pm
 :-\ I received my order from TC29, but now his account has been suspended and there is no domestic H to be found. Fuck.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: wellgme on April 05, 2012, 07:32 pm
I missed where you said SR had closed your account. It's funny that their system still allows users to send messages to people whose accounts are no longer open. had I not logged into the forums I would have never known that had happened and would really have no chance to resolve this with you.

Anyway, I sent you a PM. Please let me know on here if for some reason you do not receive a PM from me.

Maybe thecloser29 is now trying to do the right thing. If that is the case, I will definitely let everyone know if he resolves his issue with me.

Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: jbernoit on April 05, 2012, 10:50 pm
I missed where you said SR had closed your account. It's funny that their system still allows users to send messages to people whose accounts are no longer open. had I not logged into the forums I would have never known that had happened and would really have no chance to resolve this with you.

Anyway, I sent you a PM. Please let me know on here if for some reason you do not receive a PM from me.

Maybe thecloser29 is now trying to do the right thing. If that is the case, I will definitely let everyone know if he resolves his issue with me.

Don't hold your breath. I've been waiting to hear back from him to work out a resolution to my shipment and I haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: smithjr on April 05, 2012, 11:21 pm
its none of my business i g but for those ppl sayin they got half their product and other ppl arent recieving at all they and are still thinkin of payin this guy?? doesn't make sense to me..
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: thecloser29 on April 06, 2012, 02:04 am
its none of my business i g but for those ppl sayin they got half their product and other ppl arent recieving at all they and are still thinkin of payin this guy?? doesn't make sense to me..
For the 21st time anyone that hasnt received needs to PM ME here so I can make arrangement.s

I'm working on getting product to send which is tough when my SR acct was deleted with ALL of my BTC in it
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Arguekitty on April 06, 2012, 04:06 pm
its none of my business i g but for those ppl sayin they got half their product and other ppl arent recieving at all they and are still thinkin of payin this guy?? doesn't make sense to me..
For the 21st time anyone that hasnt received needs to PM ME here so I can make arrangement.s

I'm working on getting product to send which is tough when my SR acct was deleted with ALL of my BTC in it
I gotta say your commitment is a rare kind.
Usually scammers ditch the identity they used and/or modus operandi when evidence against them becomes more than anecdotal. That's not to say you're fooling anyone tho. Just stop this non-sense.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: hbjk on April 06, 2012, 05:14 pm
thecloser has continued to stay in touch with me, even after his account has been closed. He says he's going/trying to be making good. When he easily could have just bugged out at this point. Fingers crossed, but I actually think he is trying to do good here... flame away, but I'm pulling for him.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 06, 2012, 05:28 pm
Quote
thecloser has continued to stay in touch with me, even after his account has been closed. He says he's going/trying to be making good. When he easily could have just bugged out at this point. Fingers crossed, but I actually think he is trying to do good here... flame away, but I'm pulling for him.

you are playing with fire.  based on the information from topix.com, and careful analysis of his multiple lies in direct contradiction of the facts (that everyone has been refunded, that the person from topix.com is a different person than himself etc),  not only is thecloser29 an obvious selective scammer , he is likely a sociopath.   

Sociopaths do not have a conscience -- they were born without it.  if you think you can outmaneuver a sociopath (with their extraordinary manipulation abilities, no qualms about lying, lack of remorse, careful selection of victims) then you are going to get burned.  In fact, your trusting nature and willingness to 'assume the best' about others despite evidence of character pathology -- this is probably why he is talking to you.  Once he is finished, and has sent you a few Roxis to earn your trust, he will burn you for $800 in one large order ,then move on to the next victim.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: wellgme on April 07, 2012, 03:10 am
Closer, I sent you a PM. Haven't heard back. Please send me a PM asap.
Thanks.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: MinisterOfAesthetics on April 08, 2012, 08:28 am
theposer29 has obviously cut and run.... i'm sure he's in the bahamas throwing btc's around like an asshole and bangin' prostitutes with the clap....
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: buhbye on April 08, 2012, 10:16 am
Kidx "if you're not smart enough not to fall for their bullshit, then you get what you deserve and you should shut your mouth."

ummm, I'm not clear on this... Wonder why you lose your money... master of double negatives
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: wellgme on April 09, 2012, 02:32 am
Just an update, not that anyone is surprised. I sent thecloser29 a PM 3 days ago as he requested. He has still not responded.  Still owes me 150.00.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: hbjk on April 10, 2012, 12:07 am
Yeah, i haven't heard from him in over 4 days. He "owes" me over 400. I know, I probably deserve it for being an idiot, but yeah I'll be more careful from now on. Hope everyone else learns a lesson from our misfortune. I had done transactions with this guy, and went smooth.. shockingly, so felt ok finalizing. Don't ever finalize early, EVER. Don't do it even if you and seller are best bros. Just don't do it, escrow is there to protect. Don't do it. Don't.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: rasspects on April 12, 2012, 02:49 pm
i was lucky enough to not get burned by him because i stayed within escrow. the funny part is even after my order was cancelled & my bitcoins returned he still insisted that an order had been sent to me. he said his "partner" had specifically told him that an order was sent to my area of the globe and he remembered it specifically. well i ordered with express shipping so it should have been there over a week and half ago. still nothing. i am torn because he seemed good intentioned and he did stick around appearing to be trying to make right but never did.

im wondering if a Mod or DPR can shed some light into this guy? as i mentioned i was lucky enough to get my $$$ back but it still worries me that he had one of my drop locations address. can someone at SR, such as DPR, tell us what happened to his account and if he was really trying to return money, if the money is locked in his account or if he just emptied it and bailed? the "possible Narcotics agent" is what has me most worried since he had the address of one of my drop spots and i dont want a NA having that address. need to rule out the NA and verify if he is just a lowlife scammer or someone who really just didnt have their shit together and never was able to make it right due to having his acct closed. DPR, you are the man... bless us with your presence and knowledge on this please!!! :)

Rasspects
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: lilith2u on April 12, 2012, 03:00 pm
Wow! thecloser29! That was so last week:) I think maybe hes gone for good this time? I don't think he's LE, but most def a sociopath. I think he would rat anyone out in a NY minute if he had to. So just be glad he's gone and hopefully for good
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: zuckerberg on April 12, 2012, 04:32 pm
No offense to hbjk, wellgme, rasspects... But I warned all of you guys in this thread about the closer29, but you chose to ignore the facts -- probably because you were so desperate for drugs that you exhibited poor judgement.    You ought to think this over , and how bad judgement might effect you in the future.  It could be worse than losing money next time.

In particular, hbjk, listen to yourself ...

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Yeah, i haven't heard from him in over 4 days. He "owes" me over 400.
No surprise there... I hope you are not surprised.   But how did he end up with $400 of your money?  Just the early finalization ?   Or Did he con you into sending MORE money on top of what you already sent?   That wouldn't surprise me.  Psychopaths/sociopaths are very good at manipulation... the thing here is that you should have known better, because you were warned by me multiple times.

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I know, I probably deserve it for being an idiot, but yeah I'll be more careful from now on.
Frankly, you kind of did deserve this because you acted against your own self-interest.  What did you think was going to happen?  This is akin to walking out in front of a bus going 60mph,  then acting surprised when you get run over.

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Don't ever finalize early, EVER. Don't do it even if you and seller are best bros. Just don't do it, escrow is there to protect.
Ding ding ding.  We have a winner!

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well i ordered with express shipping so it should have been there over a week and half ago. still nothing
No surprise there.  Nothing got sent.   Like I explained before (in this exact thread), this is how selective scamming works.   A small percentage get their packages (not you) , and post rave reviews.  The rest get nothing , and post nonsense like, "Thecloser29 is a good guy, I'm still waiting, but I'm sure he'll come through .  He said he needed $800 for bus fare to go pick up the Roxis in Hong Kong, so I wired him the money via Western Union with codeword.  He said in exchange he'd have my 100% pure H -- sent by carrier pigeon with teleportation upgrade -- arriving directly to my front door. . . I should have it by tomorrow".

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i am torn because he seemed good intentioned and he did stick around appearing to be trying to make right but never did.
Are you having trouble admitting to yourself you were scammed by a sociopath (and were lucky to make it out with your money and sanity)? Because you were.  He took you for a ride, and fooled you, even though you were warned.

To both of you guys (hbjk, rasspects):

(1) You were scammed by a sociopath.  You fell for it hook, line, and sinker, despite being warned of this.  Admit this, and learn from it.

(2) He was not good intentioned.  TheCloser29 had malicious intentions from the very beginning.  You need to admit to yourself that there exist malicious people in this world -- and you just got victimized by one.  They are known as psychopaths/sociopaths (same thing),  and they LACK A CONSCIENCE.  Biologically , they don't have one, like you do.   They are NOTHING like you are me, and they might as well be a different species of human entirely.  Go read "The Mask of Sanity" or "The Psychopath Next Door".  Psychopaths are responsible for the vast majority of serious crime within society (murder, extortion, rape, fraud, scams, etc).

(3) "He did stick around appearing to be trying to make"... Sure ,and the reason he did this was in order to take advantage of his victims for more money.  By playing a 'role' or taking up the 'mask' of a well-intentioned but down-on-his-luck drug dealer, he was able to extort several thousand dollars from unsuspecting silk road users, just the same as he's done similar scams on topix.com.   All of this 'trying to make right' sort of thing was all an act.    Some packages (intended for selective scamming) got sent out after his Silk Road account was suspended .  This is why he was angry, because he was worried about losing money on this particular scam.   But he more than made up for this, by exploiting people like yourself via private message /private contact, despite the fact that everyone was warned of his malicious intentions.  You fell for an act -- a 'mask' worn by a psychopath in order to gain something (money) from you, his victim.

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im wondering if a Mod or DPR can shed some light into this guy?
C'mon, do you need a preceived 'authority' to do your thinking for you?  You have the facts laid out in this thread.  I have gone out of my way to explain what has been happening to everyone , multiple times.   He was a scammer, a malicious one, who's scam got screwed up while in progress due to the feedback and escrow systems within SR.   He adjusted, then took advantage of people in private for as much as he could (after his S.R. account got suspended), then once he had squeezed the last drop from his hapless, generally idiotic victims, he then up and disappeared -- probably back to Topix.com to continue scamming[

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as i mentioned i was lucky enough to get my $$$ back but it still worries me that he had one of my drop locations address
I wouldn't worry about it too much -- his SR account was suspended, and he lost a fair amount of the order messages.  He said himself he couldn't correlate which package went to where because he was using S.R.'s order system to keep track of this, rather than a spreadsheet.   

Yeah, worst case, he has your address.

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the "possible Narcotics agent" is what has me most worried since he had the address of one of my drop spots and i dont want a NA having that address.
Sure, he might be NA.  It's unlikely, but there were rumors over on Topix.com regarding the fact that "bobbybumpsalot" (aka the closer29 from Topix.com) was arrested.  If you did your homework (read this thread in full), you would already know this.    You would also know that he met people from Topix.com in real life  to do drug deals, but was generally regarded as "not having his shit together" .  For example, he would ask for money for bus /subway fare in addition to the price of the drugs from his victims.

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need to rule out the NA and verify if he is just a lowlife scammer or someone who really just didnt have their shit together and never was able to make it right due to having his acct closed.
This can't' be ruled out.   

Your one hope is that he was kind of an idiot, so that even if he is working with LE, he is a total and complete fuckup , of low intelligence, only assisted by the fact that he is unburdened by the weight of a conscience.  He probably has lost your address by now even if he was working with LE.


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Wow! thecloser29! That was so last week:) I think maybe hes gone for good this time? I don't think he's LE, but most def a sociopath. I think he would rat anyone out in a NY minute if he had to. So just be glad he's gone and hopefully for good

Agreed.  And I'm glad at least someone understood what happened and was able to learn and adapt from it.   Props to you.



Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Devaney1984 on April 18, 2012, 12:12 am
well he apparently just got busted by the feds along w/the others from TFM, so i guess that's some karmic justice for you all??  not to freak people out, but if you had dealings w/this dude in the past couple months you may want to clean house just to be safe.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: Julio on April 18, 2012, 03:26 am
That's pretty nutty, good call a full two weeks out.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: MinisterOfAesthetics on April 18, 2012, 04:58 am
well he apparently just got busted by the feds along w/the others from TFM, so i guess that's some karmic justice for you all??  not to freak people out, but if you had dealings w/this dude in the past couple months you may want to clean house just to be safe.
is that just speculation or do you know that for a fact??? source? i'd like to know considering i did order a stamp bag from him and he has (or had) my encrypted address....
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: brutusk on April 18, 2012, 05:17 am
well he apparently just got busted by the feds along w/the others from TFM, so i guess that's some karmic justice for you all??  not to freak people out, but if you had dealings w/this dude in the past couple months you may want to clean house just to be safe.
is that just speculation or do you know that for a fact??? source? i'd like to know considering i did order a stamp bag from him and he has (or had) my encrypted address....

It's a fact, a copy of the indictment was posted in another forum (the rumor mill? Silk road news? don't remember but do a search for TFM and it will come up). They took down the whole operation a few days ago. Time to get out the Mr. Clean asap dude.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: MinisterOfAesthetics on April 18, 2012, 05:22 am
yeah, i've seen the indictment, but the name 'thecloser29' isn't anywhere in the indictment.... nor is there any mention of NY, where he was from.... what leads you to believe that he was involved in TFM???
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: brutusk on April 18, 2012, 02:28 pm
Read the actual 60 page indictment. The not only mention new York, they name the city and street and the email. Address thecloser29. Go check the other threads, this has already been washed out. Even if they dude wasn't LE he is def in busted
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: mybodymychoice on April 19, 2012, 04:24 pm
Read the actual 60 page indictment. The not only mention new York, they name the city and street and the email. Address thecloser29. Go check the other threads, this has already been washed out. Even if they dude wasn't LE he is def in busted

do u know where in the indictment it references thecloser? i see 3 addresses associated with dugan on the first page of the indicment but none of them say thecloser. i also just read thru the indictment and dont see a reference to thecloser in their either. im guessing i must have missed it and searching the PDF doesnt work for me. do u know which page(s) its on?

thanks, MBMC
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: joydivision on April 19, 2012, 04:54 pm
i was the one who brought the info that Dugan = TheCloser29 on the forums, I can't go into details but it is a fact. So scrub up.
Title: Re: TheCloser29 is a THIEF and a possible Narcotics Agent
Post by: brutusk on April 19, 2012, 06:14 pm
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