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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: Joy on April 18, 2013, 11:45 am

Title: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on April 18, 2013, 11:45 am
Any body interested in buying 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenylpropan-2-one / piperonyl methyl ketone (MDP2P or PMK)?
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on April 18, 2013, 04:27 pm
I'd interested in your MDP2P, but only if it's at a reasonable price. How much would you be selling it for?
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: docbader on April 18, 2013, 07:48 pm
Hi,
I'm also interested, if the price is good.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on April 19, 2013, 02:40 am
How much do you guys think its the reasonable price?
I have to put alot of effort for producing pmk,so make me a reasonable offer. ;)
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: docbader on April 19, 2013, 09:22 am
Hi,
you make the prices teman saya  ;), but here is a very big market for you product.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on April 19, 2013, 09:52 am
This is a tricky item to assign a value to because anyone interested in it would most likely be capable of producing it for themselves (with your help, no less). You'd have to make it cheap enough so that it's more convenient buying it from you than simply making it. There's definitely a market for it though, as a precursor like that would effectively be a one-step MDxx synth. with 80+% yields.

I'm curious Joy, if you have that much safrole sitting around and appear to have a good lab setup, why aren't you just selling MDMA in bulk? The MDMA market is exponentially bigger than the SR precursor market and you could obviously sell it for a much higher price.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: krazy4 on April 19, 2013, 03:57 pm
I'd be interested if the price is right.
What is the expected purity? How much for a kg?
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on April 19, 2013, 11:35 pm
I'm curious Joy, if you have that much safrole sitting around and appear to have a good lab setup, why aren't you just selling MDMA in bulk? The MDMA market is exponentially bigger than the SR precursor market and you could obviously sell it for a much higher price.

I haven't found a chemist to make the mdma & also i havent enough capital to build a large scale factory.
Making mdma is not like making meth.
The safrole lab is also in the deep jungle in here.
I can get a death penalty if i get caught owning / running a mdma lab here.
PMK prices to be announced after i see a good potential on it.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: kittysix on April 20, 2013, 06:03 am
I am VERY interested. Can you please PM me some prices for bulk? ???
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Crack Fox on April 20, 2013, 07:07 pm
Joy,

Please sign me up for bulk if the price is alright.
I would love to finish mdxx synth's from PMK.. I have been searching for PMK for a long time.

Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Mossman on April 20, 2013, 09:14 pm
quite interested
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: lokiju on April 21, 2013, 03:51 am
Yep, me too.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: fractalglobal on April 21, 2013, 08:11 am
sign me up
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on April 23, 2013, 07:52 am
Please make me an offer on how much are you guys willing to pay for 1 liter?
If theres a good market & demand on it,maybe i will set it up.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: fractalglobal on April 23, 2013, 08:10 am
The big problem with what you are asking is that there is no benchmark for selling MDP2P. I mean, if I say "Yeah sure, I'll go $500/l for it."  You should honestly be telling me to find the nearest cliff and take a walk, but at the same time, how can we possibly come up with a figure that isn't grossly over/undervaluing the product?

Also, I'd like to know how you plan on shipping it, MDP2P is notorious for degrading quickly at room temp, and Indonesia is gunna have fairly long shipping times to every country bar Australia.(Lucky for me)  I don't know how much knowledge of chemistry you have so I wasn't sure whether you had taken this into account or not.  If so, please excuse me.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on April 25, 2013, 03:33 pm
The big problem with what you are asking is that there is no benchmark for selling MDP2P. I mean, if I say "Yeah sure, I'll go $500/l for it."  You should honestly be telling me to find the nearest cliff and take a walk, but at the same time, how can we possibly come up with a figure that isn't grossly over/undervaluing the product?

Also, I'd like to know how you plan on shipping it, MDP2P is notorious for degrading quickly at room temp, and Indonesia is gunna have fairly long shipping times to every country bar Australia.(Lucky for me)  I don't know how much knowledge of chemistry you have so I wasn't sure whether you had taken this into account or not.  If so, please excuse me.

Well if i can ship safrole worldwide with safely,i think i can do it with pmk too. ;)
The only problem is will i willing to put my $ to invest it to build the pmk lab.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on April 25, 2013, 10:00 pm
The big problem with what you are asking is that there is no benchmark for selling MDP2P. I mean, if I say "Yeah sure, I'll go $500/l for it."  You should honestly be telling me to find the nearest cliff and take a walk, but at the same time, how can we possibly come up with a figure that isn't grossly over/undervaluing the product?

Also, I'd like to know how you plan on shipping it, MDP2P is notorious for degrading quickly at room temp, and Indonesia is gunna have fairly long shipping times to every country bar Australia.(Lucky for me)  I don't know how much knowledge of chemistry you have so I wasn't sure whether you had taken this into account or not.  If so, please excuse me.

Well if i can ship safrole worldwide with safely,i think i can do it with pmk too. ;)
The only problem is will i willing to put my $ to invest it to build the pmk lab.


I was also under the impression that PMK/MDP2P degrades very quickly if it's not in a freezer, which isn't the case with safrole. From the Dr. Drool write-up (http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/mdma.drdrool.html):

"The unfortunate thing about the ketone(MDP2P) is that although you probably have a million good places to hide the ecstasy and the safrole, the MDP-2-P must be kept in the freezer."

How would you go about fixing this problem?
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on April 27, 2013, 03:23 am
The big problem with what you are asking is that there is no benchmark for selling MDP2P. I mean, if I say "Yeah sure, I'll go $500/l for it."  You should honestly be telling me to find the nearest cliff and take a walk, but at the same time, how can we possibly come up with a figure that isn't grossly over/undervaluing the product?

Also, I'd like to know how you plan on shipping it, MDP2P is notorious for degrading quickly at room temp, and Indonesia is gunna have fairly long shipping times to every country bar Australia.(Lucky for me)  I don't know how much knowledge of chemistry you have so I wasn't sure whether you had taken this into account or not.  If so, please excuse me.

Well if i can ship safrole worldwide with safely,i think i can do it with pmk too. ;)
The only problem is will i willing to put my $ to invest it to build the pmk lab.


I was also under the impression that PMK/MDP2P degrades very quickly if it's not in a freezer, which isn't the case with safrole. From the Dr. Drool write-up (http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/mdma.drdrool.html):

"The unfortunate thing about the ketone(MDP2P) is that although you probably have a million good places to hide the ecstasy and the safrole, the MDP-2-P must be kept in the freezer."

How would you go about fixing this problem?

Maybe i'll buy the freezer & use a different bottles material. Thank you for the heads up.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Crack Fox on June 09, 2013, 10:15 am
Joy,

Are you still considering the investment to produce PMK oil?
I do hope so  8)
cheers
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: DrDeepWood on June 09, 2013, 11:17 am
I dont like the term PMK, the name most chemists use is MDp2p, newbs see PMK and think its some new precursor nobody has ever heard of. 

Considering sass oil is easily worth 1k/L, you could sell mdp2p for up to 5k/l and it would still be financially viable.

Its about 1000x more illegal than sass oil and much more unstable.  There are ways to convert it to an inert form for shipping and easily convert back to mdp2p once the chemist has it.

Joy: I would suggest sticking to selling sass oil, that way people can use either a method that goes through mdp2p or a method like mine that is just a few steps directly from sass to mdma without mdp2p/PMK.


Plus, you will not get in much trouble just for getting sass oil shipped to you, but getting mdp2p shipped to you is an instant manufacturing case.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on June 12, 2013, 06:44 am
Joy,

Are you still considering the investment to produce PMK oil?
I do hope so  8)
cheers

Yes i do want to make a legal MDP2P factory here.
I'm saving my $ now & hopefully will be running next year.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on June 12, 2013, 07:33 am
I dont like the term PMK, the name most chemists use is MDp2p, newbs see PMK and think its some new precursor nobody has ever heard of. 

Considering sass oil is easily worth 1k/L, you could sell mdp2p for up to 5k/l and it would still be financially viable.

Its about 1000x more illegal than sass oil and much more unstable.  There are ways to convert it to an inert form for shipping and easily convert back to mdp2p once the chemist has it.

Joy: I would suggest sticking to selling sass oil, that way people can use either a method that goes through mdp2p or a method like mine that is just a few steps directly from sass to mdma without mdp2p/PMK.


Plus, you will not get in much trouble just for getting sass oil shipped to you, but getting mdp2p shipped to you is an instant manufacturing case.

Ok dr.
Maybe i just sell both of them if i my plan is running. :)
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Crack Fox on June 12, 2013, 09:49 am
Joy,

Are you still considering the investment to produce PMK oil?
I do hope so  8)
cheers

Yes i do want to make a legal MDP2P factory here.
I'm saving my $ now & hopefully will be running next year.

Excellent news ! I will be saving my $ for you as well :)
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: frank88 on June 29, 2013, 03:18 am
http://manufacturer.ec21.com/piperonyl_methyl_ketone.html
is this legit? or scam?
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: DrDeepWood on June 29, 2013, 08:04 am
scam or sting, no way an individual can easily get it from asia, even through those B2B sites.
The mafia gets it in drums but they are the only ones who can pull that off.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: frank88 on June 30, 2013, 01:08 pm
So, is there any other use of mdp2p other then synth mdma?
thanks.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: fractalglobal on July 01, 2013, 04:26 am
MDA can also be synthesized from MDP2P via hydroxylamine + Al/Hg.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: frank88 on July 01, 2013, 09:34 am
i meant legal way of use for mdp2p?
thanks.
Title: Re: Piperonyl Methyl Ketone
Post by: Joy on July 01, 2013, 03:26 pm
i meant legal way of use for mdp2p?
thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,4-Methylenedioxyphenylpropan-2-one