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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Havacle on December 07, 2012, 02:00 pm

Title: DMT degraded?
Post by: Havacle on December 07, 2012, 02:00 pm
I had a small amount of DMT in storage, have had it for about a year, actually. It has been in multiple layers of plastic bags, wrapped up tight. It was white crystal, now it has browned a little, and has lost a lot of it's smell. Is it fucked?
Title: Re: DMT degraded?
Post by: thecrackhead on December 07, 2012, 02:17 pm
Generally mimosa should not go bad even after months/years. If it looks fine and doesnt have some mutant fungus growing on it, its perfect :) There are reports of people using mimosa that was for many months or even years in a drawer without any significant problem (though as with anything, its always more prudent to store in dark, dry, cold place).

http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT_N-Oxide_to_Freebase_DMT

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=3570

The main possible degradation is of dmt into dmt n-oxide. Dmt n-oxide is also psychoactive, but it is not soluble in naphtha, which may cause some people to get small yields when extracting from older bark. N-oxide is soluble in limonene/xylene/toluene/etc, so one could extract it with those solvents without loss of yield. Alternatively, N-oxide can be converted back to dmt using zinc dust, see link below

For oral usage of mimosa, formation of n-oxide wouldnt really affect much as it will be water soluble so one will still get the effects when consuming the brew.
Title: Re: DMT degraded?
Post by: goblin on December 07, 2012, 07:25 pm
I had a small amount of DMT in storage, have had it for about a year, actually. It has been in multiple layers of plastic bags, wrapped up tight. It was white crystal, now it has browned a little, and has lost a lot of it's smell. Is it fucked?
Are you talking about extracted nn-DMT, or MHRB? Cause thecrackhead keeps saying mimosa.

I do believe that DMT crystals can keep vacuum sealed and frozen, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: DMT degraded?
Post by: Havacle on December 07, 2012, 09:20 pm
I had a small amount of DMT in storage, have had it for about a year, actually. It has been in multiple layers of plastic bags, wrapped up tight. It was white crystal, now it has browned a little, and has lost a lot of it's smell. Is it fucked?
Are you talking about extracted nn-DMT, or MHRB? Cause thecrackhead keeps saying mimosa.

I do believe that DMT crystals can keep vacuum sealed and frozen, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Extracted crystal. Yeah, I've been leery of freezer, but a month or so ago I tested 1 & 1/2 tabs of wow lsd that came from Joot, and got little to nothing. Though I was on mdma at the time, and that specific timing/combo has been problematic for me before. Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is I probably need to rethink my storage practices lol.