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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: TheSocialEngineer on April 19, 2012, 10:02 am
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=============== TheSocialEngineer ======================
Me: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/eaf2b21929
==MY PRODUCTS==
50% off 32" TV: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/eb168020cf - sale on the tv, amazon price = $300, your price = $150
75% off $899 mixer: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/293b1965fd - sale on the mixer, kitchenaid price = $899, your price = $325 (first few buyers only!)
Prices will remain this low whilst I build myself a reputation here as a trusted vendor. I will never ask you to finalize early. I do accept new buyers however this is at my discretion. If you have a high refund rate I probably won't do business with you.
These items are perfect for buying and reselling/cashing out your bitcoins in your SR account, they make great gifts or you can just use them yourself!
=====VOUCHES AND FEEDBACK=====
1. I have placed an order with this vendor and will be staying in escrow. I'll let you all know how this plays out.
i have received a tracking number for my order, which i would consider to be a good sign. i'l llet everyone know when i get it.
Just a heads up, received my fuelband on Friday. so personally i cant say anything bad about this vendor, everything was just as it should be, and he was completely in favor of escrow.
2. Also contacting him and doing business very soon for the nike fuel bands. Will let everyone know how it goes. Want to sell at least to cover enough for my immediate family to all have one :)
Just got my email from Nike with the shipping label and instructions for me to send my "defective product" back to them, and that they have shipped the new replacements.
I love dumbasses who like to talk shit and call people out based on no evidence whatsoever, shows how fucking ignorant you are flat out and thats so sad. That's okay, more products for me to buy from him and bank off of.
Got my 2 nike fuel bands in today, everything came in perfect brand new condition. Took like 3 days. Scammer my ass. Ya'll can go jump on one! Had a great experience with this vendor.
3.Just put in an order for one of the Nike bands as well, looking forward to receiving it and will update the process as it progresses. So far great communication.
4.....IF he's a scammer, then why the tits would he stay in escrow?
Quit being paranoid.
If the guy holds a flash sale and requires FE on everything, boot him. Til then, leave him alone. I, as well as anyone, can see that its phishy, but don't hang a man unless you're sure he's guilty.....
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The last 'social engineer' we had on SR just left few days ago with pocketfuls of 'socially engineered' BTC, now you show up.. It will be hard to make people trust you. Hopefully you're going to do all your business in escrow.
Good luck, Zeus.. (just kidding?) But really, your profile looks awfully similar to his.
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One bad apple spoils the whole bunch. :(
I am familiar with that Zeus fellow and unfortunately it seems like its a bad time to become a social engineer vendor on SR. I will be able to prove that not all Social Engineers are the same, however, if people give me a chance. I am only interested in stealing from Big Rich Companies, not from the little guy.
Of course I will be doing all my transactions with escrow. There is nothing to fear if you are a good buyer.
If anyone wants proof of my trust I can give them my buyer account name and PM them from it and they will see I have made many purchases and finalised in due time on 100% of my purchases.
Unfortunately, theres nothing else I can do apart from offering escrow and my word. :D
I am just here to bring you cheap fuel bands, put your trust in me and I promise I won't let you down!
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I have placed an order with this vendor and will be staying in escrow. I'll let you all know how this plays out.
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I have placed an order with this vendor and will be staying in escrow. I'll let you all know how this plays out.
Confirmed. Looking forward to doing business with you Candyman! :D
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One bad apple spoils the whole bunch. :(
I am familiar with that Zeus fellow and unfortunately it seems like its a bad time to become a social engineer vendor on SR. I will be able to prove that not all Social Engineers are the same, however, if people give me a chance. I am only interested in stealing from Big Rich Companies, not from the little guy.
Of course I will be doing all my transactions with escrow. There is nothing to fear if you are a good buyer.
If anyone wants proof of my trust I can give them my buyer account name and PM them from it and they will see I have made many purchases and finalised in due time on 100% of my purchases.
Unfortunately, theres nothing else I can do apart from offering escrow and my word. :D
I am just here to bring you cheap fuel bands, put your trust in me and I promise I won't let you down!
GadZEUS you're back!!!! And gotta give you credit for being ballsy quick too! Most douchebags would have taken a few days off in the sun with the several K that was jacked. its not the blatantly obvious stuff that I can see such as your profile page, the way u guide people to your feedback page, and your way of writing that looks eerily similar to Zeus aka Reseller aka BronzeFidelity, its the stuff THATS MISSING which makes me suspicious. What i mean is there are some key things which are different that you've made very evident and gone out of the way to point out to us. Zeus obviously read all the shit about him because he came back on the forums as another 2 post user in a feeble attempt to squeeze a bit more out of people. I think you've read our feedback and have selectively picked certain key things to avoid.
Such as:
- NEVER needing to finalize early: OK, good way to establish trust to the public. But lets see in private PMs what the excuses are on why we need to finalize early. But we may not see that at first. It might take a few weeks, probably a couple months before we need to finalize early in private, for whatever reason we're asked. BTW Alot of vendors include a comment about needing 10+ transactions, no refunds, etc in order to work within escrow. Maybe you're SUPER legit and dont worry about being scammed yourself but i find no rules on the escrow to be a little suspicious
- Insult to Zeus: If you were familiar with him, and are indeed a social engineer you would be outright pissed at this low life sociopath, and likely using a few more harsh words then "fellow". I know i would be .
- Nobody said all social engineers are the same. We said you appear to be Zeus.
- Lotto missing - ok fine. you dont do lottos i hope you've learned from that because we have. Nice way to jack up positive feedback. Maybe we'll see the lotto or some modified form of it down the road. Too soon i guess.
- Netflix, kindles, Microsoft cams, ipads, macbooks. - Dont want to go with those at first. lets see if they pop up a few months down the road. Couldnt pick any of those at first cuz that would be a very obvious giveaway now. Good choice on the unsuspecting Nike products
- Bitcoin to MP exchange - also good choice to keep that out. Zeus pissed alot of people off with that one. Kept them waiting for weeks!
- Signs of a new seller: You are a new seller apparently, yet your profile page is set up RIGHT AWAY, all details included as if you've done this before. You're 1 day old yet you're ontop of that 4/20 shit like a boss - even made it on DPR's public posting - NICE JOB BRO!!. Directing us to your feedback page where you will undoubtedly post under a few fake names to hype yourself up... maybe you'll get smart this time and jack up the post count so they wont look so n00b and obvious?
Well im done now. Maybe some will look at this and think I am being a dick. Well maybe... But after the wool Zeus pulled over everyone's eyes I am not unjust in calling someone out. Yes this forum acct appears to be new but ive been here for about a half year now and Im starting to be able to profile you guys like Agent Hotchner would.
Right now there is very little to prove that you're zeus, but lets see over the coming weeks, or months what happens. Maybe people will read back to this post and say "damn bitches... MBMC was right!!" . Maybe not. OR maybe this is just a quick 4/20 scam somehow... I would rather u prove me wrong then see others get scammed again. Just saying...
Looking forward to seeing how this unfolds. I wont go as far as adding a 1 day old vendor as a "fan" but i will definitely be watching ur profile & on the forums. Waiting to call BS out.
Candyman you are a brave dude for trusting this guy so quickly. Just dont go FEing for any reason. I doubt he would be stupid enough to make you do that at first anyways. probably going to wait to get considerably more good feedback before pulling a stunt. I hope.
If you really are legit i apologize.. But i dont think you are.
MBMC
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Please keep accusations and speculation to a minimum. Just completed first order for Candyman, it should ship out Monday.
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i have received a tracking number for my order, which i would consider to be a good sign. i'l llet everyone know when i get it.
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Also contacting him and doing business very soon for the nike fuel bands. Will let everyone know how it goes. Want to sell at least to cover enough for my immediate family to all have one :)
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i have received a tracking number for my order, which i would consider to be a good sign. i'l llet everyone know when i get it.
Confirmed. You should get by this Friday, Tuesday at the latest.
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I am willing to buy a Nike FB, but I'd rather wait to see if Candy gets his. Would you mind extending this sale a little longer, that way once we have some proof that you're not Zeus, we can all get in on this deal?
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I am willing to buy a Nike FB, but I'd rather wait to see if Candy gets his. Would you mind extending this sale a little longer, that way once we have some proof that you're not Zeus, we can all get in on this deal?
Prices will rise when I feel I have earned enough feedback to warrant it.
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Your personal text has a grammatical error. Also just placing this post here to reference this thread's replies.
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I am a new buyer to silk road so therefore have no previous purchases, I plan to use this site frequently and earn myself a sort of buyers history. Will I have to finalize early? If you are who you say you are and show to be a promising seller than I know I will be a frequent buyer for you. Oh, and that is if we use escrow every time.
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Why are you people buying from this guy? Who gives a fuck if he delivers on his first 10 sales? Hell, even if he delivers on his first 50 sales. He scammed a shit ton of people out of thousands of dollars. If he will do it once, he will do it again. You people who are purchasing from him and just going to build up his feedback enough to where he can fuck over 10 people for $1,000+ and, you guessed it, start over again.
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Your personal text has a grammatical error. Also just placing this post here to reference this thread's replies.
Who's = who is
Whose = possessive
Thank you for pointing that out, fixed.
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Why are you people buying from this guy? Who gives a fuck if he delivers on his first 10 sales? Hell, even if he delivers on his first 50 sales. He scammed a shit ton of people out of thousands of dollars. If he will do it once, he will do it again. You people who are purchasing from him and just going to build up his feedback enough to where he can fuck over 10 people for $1,000+ and, you guessed it, start over again.
Do you know why the criminal justice system takes the stance of "innocent until proven guilty"?
In case innocent people get wrongly accused and have their freedom taken away.
Please don't compare me to that scammer. The only thing he and I share in common is that we are both social engineering products.
For those of you who keep saying I'm that "Zeus" scammer:
I'm not doing the same products.
I'm not doing lotteries (zeus did that to get feedback up obviously).
I'm not selling cheap shit to get my feedback up (zeus did netflix codes to get feedback up).
I'm actually fulfilling orders.
I'm not doing a bitcoin exchange service.
I'm not asking people to finalize early, nor will I ever.
Before you accuse me of being that scammer, remember how bad it would be to lock up an innocent man for the crimes of a guilty criminal (unfortunately this has happened in the real world numerous times).
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I am a new buyer to silk road so therefore have no previous purchases, I plan to use this site frequently and earn myself a sort of buyers history. Will I have to finalize early? If you are who you say you are and show to be a promising seller than I know I will be a frequent buyer for you. Oh, and that is if we use escrow every time.
I'm happy to take on new buyers with no purchase history at this stage. However, if I find they do not cooperate, I will be forced to stop accepting them.
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Okay, it seems you chose a bad time to create a sellers account with what has just happened with the zeus incident...
I personally do believe you aren't zeus but many others will keep creating accusations in your time here on SR, I guess to really stay in the positive side of things, you really gotta make some hard earned feed back but not with lottery's or cheapy little items.
Haha well what do I know? I'm just a noobie ;)
I do see a bright future shall my business with you be successful ;D
Cheers!
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2 orders shipped today, 1 waiting to be fulfilled.
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Okay, it seems you chose a bad time to create a sellers account with what has just happened with the zeus incident...
I personally do believe you aren't zeus but many others will keep creating accusations in your time here on SR, I guess to really stay in the positive side of things, you really gotta make some hard earned feed back but not with lottery's or cheapy little items.
Haha well what do I know? I'm just a noobie ;)
I do see a bright future shall my business with you be successful ;D
Cheers!
i gotta call jkim802 out too. 2 posts just in this thread? there was a similar "new user" who popped up for 2 posts in zeus's thread as well. zeus you are so blatantly obvious. why dont u just fuck off and go get a real job u scum bag. i work hard 9-5 to provide for my family and my own habits. i dont do it for scumbags like u to just rip me off. the government does enough of that. go to hell zeus. go to hell. like many others we are all onto you. and people, please dont give zeus reincarnated the feedback he wants. remember it took him a few months of selling loto, btc, netflix, small items to pull his master scam for thousands. thescoialengineer is clearly zeus and should not be trusted. if im wrong i will post a public apology about it. but as we are all agreeing it is likely zeus. piece of shit.
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Okay, it seems you chose a bad time to create a sellers account with what has just happened with the zeus incident...
I personally do believe you aren't zeus but many others will keep creating accusations in your time here on SR, I guess to really stay in the positive side of things, you really gotta make some hard earned feed back but not with lottery's or cheapy little items.
Haha well what do I know? I'm just a noobie ;)
I do see a bright future shall my business with you be successful ;D
Cheers!
i gotta call jkim802 out too. 2 posts just in this thread? there was a similar "new user" who popped up for 2 posts in zeus's thread as well. zeus you are so blatantly obvious. why dont u just fuck off and go get a real job u scum bag. i work hard 9-5 to provide for my family and my own habits. i dont do it for scumbags like u to just rip me off. the government does enough of that. go to hell zeus. go to hell. like many others we are all onto you. and people, please dont give zeus reincarnated the feedback he wants. remember it took him a few months of selling loto, btc, netflix, small items to pull his master scam for thousands. thescoialengineer is clearly zeus and should not be trusted. if im wrong i will post a public apology about it. but as we are all agreeing it is likely zeus. piece of shit.
I look forward to your public apology.
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I have placed my order with him now, will update when I receive so you can eat a dick "mybodymychoice" I hate ignorant people who jump to conclusions like you.
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Although MBMC speaks with passion, it is obviously coming from a good place. He obviously has the unmistakable feeling in his gut, which no man should ignore, otherwise he is a fool. Whether he proves to be correct or not, he is speaking on what he feels is just, and in return, attempting to protect us all in the long run. Although I am on the new side to SR, as long as it stays in escrow, isn't the buyer safe for the most part? I would be very interested in purchasing some of these products if everything seems to be legit, but as long as I know the rules and how to avoid being scammed, than I'm not at risk. IF people are still going to take the chance here, as purchasing any illegal product in any setting regardless of a tor browser, PGP, etc. is, then they will learn one way or another and can blame no one but themselves in the long run. It is a lesson learned. We have all been ripped off. Social Engineer, I hope you are a legit guy. I hope if I chose to order from you one day that you do not trying to convince me to FE, because I will, as will anyone reading this thread, put you on blast on the forums ASAP.
The rules of SR apply to everyone equally, so lets let this play out and see what happens...
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Although MBMC speaks with passion, it is obviously coming from a good place. He obviously has the unmistakable feeling in his gut, which no man should ignore, otherwise he is a fool. Whether he proves to be correct or not, he is speaking on what he feels is just, and in return, attempting to protect us all in the long run. Although I am on the new side to SR, as long as it stays in escrow, isn't the buyer safe for the most part? I would be very interested in purchasing some of these products if everything seems to be legit, but as long as I know the rules and how to avoid being scammed, than I'm not at risk. IF people are still going to take the chance here, as purchasing any illegal product in any setting regardless of a tor browser, PGP, etc. is, then they will learn one way or another and can blame no one but themselves in the long run. It is a lesson learned. We have all been ripped off. Social Engineer, I hope you are a legit guy. I hope if I chose to order from you one day that you do not trying to convince me to FE, because I will, as will anyone reading this thread, put you on blast on the forums ASAP.
The rules of SR apply to everyone equally, so lets let this play out and see what happens...
My thoughts exactly.
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Okay, it seems you chose a bad time to create a sellers account with what has just happened with the zeus incident...
I personally do believe you aren't zeus but many others will keep creating accusations in your time here on SR, I guess to really stay in the positive side of things, you really gotta make some hard earned feed back but not with lottery's or cheapy little items.
Haha well what do I know? I'm just a noobie ;)
I do see a bright future shall my business with you be successful ;D
Cheers!
i gotta call jkim802 out too. 2 posts just in this thread? there was a similar "new user" who popped up for 2 posts in zeus's thread as well. zeus you are so blatantly obvious. why dont u just fuck off and go get a real job u scum bag. i work hard 9-5 to provide for my family and my own habits. i dont do it for scumbags like u to just rip me off. the government does enough of that. go to hell zeus. go to hell. like many others we are all onto you. and people, please dont give zeus reincarnated the feedback he wants. remember it took him a few months of selling loto, btc, netflix, small items to pull his master scam for thousands. thescoialengineer is clearly zeus and should not be trusted. if im wrong i will post a public apology about it. but as we are all agreeing it is likely zeus. piece of shit.
..... Buddy you like to jump to conclusions don't cha? I am a truly new member who you could find active on hackbb forums and Underground market boards, go check for yourself before "calling others out" you ignorant piece of shit. :D
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TheSocialEngineer is Zeus. If you can't see that you weren't watching him close enough. BronzeFidelity was/is the only vendor I "liked". I watched his listings multiple times per day. I could tell you when his 200 netflix accounts fell off and then were relisted. Same with his kindles. I read every one of his feedbacks and read them on the product page listings so I knew which feedback was for which product. I was intrigued and going to place an order. Shit, when Zeus asked on the forums for 0.4btc because he needed it, I sent it to him.
Zeus had a working business model. He loaded up between 8k and 10k in orders and split. Maybe because he couldn't SE/card apple or maybe just walking away with $10k was just too tempting to resist. But he had a working business model. Why fuck that over? It's not like he can pop up on ebay and sell his wares, this is the only market. As soon as he scammed ppl and left I knew he'd be back. Here he is. This is an anon market, nobody is gunna be able to post IP's and actually prove it. But the similarities, not just being a (THE ONLY) social engineer on silkroad, are uncanny. I'm not going to start listing them out, it will actually help the guy out for next time. Ya know, if BronzeFidelity would have paid for all the Kindles he sold on silkroad even after his $10k scam he would have come out ahead. I speculate he might have been buying them with his own cash, just to setup the master scam.
So if you're ordering and staying within escrow, what's the big deal? Well you're supporting a scammer. Perhaps you're not getting scammed but you're going to pay a man that still owes your peers $10k. I honestly think thieves should be shot. Thieves are the bottom of the bottom. I don't even want to associate myself with anybody that even does business with this thief.
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Just got my email from Nike with the shipping label and instructions for me to send my "defective product" back to them, and that they have shipped the new replacements.
I love dumbasses who like to talk shit and call people out based on no evidence whatsoever, shows how fucking ignorant you are flat out and thats so sad. That's okay, more products for me to buy from him and bank off of.
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Just got my email from Nike with the shipping label and instructions for me to send my "defective product" back to them, and that they have shipped the new replacements.
I love dumbasses who like to talk shit and call people out based on no evidence whatsoever, shows how fucking ignorant you are flat out and thats so sad. That's okay, more products for me to buy from him and bank off of.
He was able to send out Kindles too. You're being used to build his credibility so he can scam a new group of unwitting users. Yeah you'll get your Nike whatever. But your money went directly to a thief that jacked some of your peers. It's like you had no problem crossing the picket lines.
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I am sorry that TSE is getting so frustrated but simply the facts are that BronzeFidelity(The only 'Social Engineer' on silk road) runs off with 10k, and then the next week a new social engineer shows up.
Zues give it up.
Buyers: Do not support this scum, he ran off with 10k, what morals does he have?
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Why would he instantly come back and offer all items through escrow? Are you fucking COMPLETELY ignorant? You guys are absolutely shocking how fucking stupid you are, i'm sorry and don't usually say shit like that but god damn its so deserving for the lot of you throwing little kid fits. Jesus fucking christ. There is absolutely no way he could scam anyone right now. And are you fucking serious do you think bronze is the only social engineer? Do you think social engineers are that rare. For fucks sake dude go back to school or something.
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Just got my email from Nike with the shipping label and instructions for me to send my "defective product" back to them, and that they have shipped the new replacements.
I love dumbasses who like to talk shit and call people out based on no evidence whatsoever, shows how fucking ignorant you are flat out and thats so sad. That's okay, more products for me to buy from him and bank off of.
So what happens once they send the new shoes and they receive nothing in return, but have your name and home address?
Nike and the other companies I do, don't bill. I make sure to tie up the loose ends. ;)
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I am sorry that TSE is getting so frustrated but simply the facts are that BronzeFidelity(The only 'Social Engineer' on silk road) runs off with 10k, and then the next week a new social engineer shows up.
Zues give it up.
Buyers: Do not support this scum, he ran off with 10k, what morals does he have?
I'm not frustrated. I can understand the hostility because of my similarities with the scammer. Actually, the only real similarity is that we are both social engineering (I'm not sure if zeus actually did any se'ing or if he just said he did). Anyway, apart from the se'ing aspect, theres not much other similarities. If you want to deal with me do so, if not then theres no need to tell me.
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This amuses me.
IF he's a scammer, then why the tits would he stay in escrow?
Quit being paranoid.
If the guy holds a flash sale and requires FE on everything, boot him. Til then, leave him alone. I, as well as anyone, can see that its phishy, but don't hang a man unless you're sure he's guilty.
Have some xanax and vodka, and chill.
Listen to 'Bonecrusher' by Senses Fail.
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3 orders fulfilled, 1 pending.
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This amuses me.
IF he's a scammer, then why the tits would he stay in escrow?
Quit being paranoid.
If the guy holds a flash sale and requires FE on everything, boot him. Til then, leave him alone. I, as well as anyone, can see that its phishy, but don't hang a man unless you're sure he's guilty.
Have some xanax and vodka, and chill.
Listen to 'Bonecrusher' by Senses Fail.
My thoughts exactly. Except the part about mixing drugs and alcohol lol.
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Why would he instantly come back and offer all items through escrow? Are you fucking COMPLETELY ignorant?
He lies for a living. Because he is a social engineer and he believes he can make people do whatever he wants to by manipulating them. The other reason he came right back was because he screwed up his business model. He was making BANK selling kindles and netflix. He was throwing up multiple $500 custom listings daily and everybody was getting their stuff. Why would he scam people out of $10k worth of Apple products if he was making so much money on Kindles? And since he blew up his business model by ruining his credibility it was only a matter of time before he came back and tried this again.
Shit can't you even notice his forum signatures? He might as well have copied/pasted his signature over from Reseller. DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. That was still on Resellers SR account verbatim from the day he started until the day he was banned, even though $10k worth of merchandise was FE'd.
He started up like a week ago and he knows the ins and outs of Silkroad. He doesn't promote drug use, so what did he do to get so familiar with this site and software and procedures?
If somebody robbed your house how would you feel if I had no problem buying up things, you believe were yours but I just wasn't sure, for pennies on the dollar and doing so publicly right in front of you? That's what anybody that buys from TheSocialEngineer is doing.
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Why would he instantly come back and offer all items through escrow? Are you fucking COMPLETELY ignorant?
He lies for a living. Because he is a social engineer and he believes he can make people do whatever he wants to by manipulating them. The other reason he came right back was because he screwed up his business model. He was making BANK selling kindles and netflix. He was throwing up multiple $500 custom listings daily and everybody was getting their stuff. Why would he scam people out of $10k worth of Apple products if he was making so much money on Kindles? And since he blew up his business model by ruining his credibility it was only a matter of time before he came back and tried this again.
Shit can't you even notice his forum signatures? He might as well have copied/pasted his signature over from Reseller. DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. That was still on Resellers SR account verbatim from the day he started until the day he was banned, even though $10k worth of merchandise was FE'd.
He started up like a week ago and he knows the ins and outs of Silkroad. He doesn't promote drug use, so what did he do to get so familiar with this site and software and procedures?
If somebody robbed your house how would you feel if I had no problem buying up things, you believe were yours but I just wasn't sure, for pennies on the dollar and doing so publicly right in front of you? That's what anybody that buys from TheSocialEngineer is doing.
THANK YOU CaliTrees. Finally someone reading between the lines. The similarities are so uncanny it cannot be ignored.
Danology ... He is getting you to work within escrow for now to build his trust!! How do you not see this? He did this exact thing as Reseller. And as pointed out his friggin signature looks almost identical to Reseller/aka Zeus/aka BronzeFidelitiy. Dont yell at me and insult me. I am a highly educated IT Professional holding Cisco cerifications that only a small group (100k versus millions of millions) of people have. I am not an idiot and i got when i am and paid they amount it do for a reason. My intentions here are not to hang an innocent person. but warn other people. RIGHT NOW U WILL GET YOUR PRODUCT... but you are supporting a scammer building up his rep, and then at some point he will FUCK YOU.
The only benefit of the doubt that i have is that TSE will tie up the loose ends on these products being shipped ... FOR NOW... he will make things look legit and proper ... FOR NOW.... then he will have a flash bang sale like Zeus did last time and require everyone to FE... Or maybe he will modify his tactics somehow.
To the other guy i called out who claims he is a newbie. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt too. But the bottom line is that TSE is clearly Zeus. As Cali so elliquintly re-iterated one of the original things I pointed out ( i think he said it better then me..) " He started up like a week ago and he knows the ins and outs of Silkroad. He doesn't promote drug use, so what did he do to get so familiar with this site and software and procedures?"
Cmon people. Do you really want to support a guy who scammed over 10K? Do you really want to give him the benefit of the doubt where the similiarities are so uncanny to Zeus, just so you can get a cheap Nike bank? wtf?
Also, someone said whats the harm if you're working with escrow.. Well besides the fact that you're helping build up Zeus's new account's reputation so he can pull another fast one... how would u feel knowing that zeus, the lying, scumbag, thieving, sociopath lowlife HAS YOUR ADDRESS? Or your moms/pops address? or your work address...? Whoevers address you are going to give he is going to have it. Do you think someone who stole over 10K without blinking is safe with that address? Cmon people. My intentions are just to warn anyone new to SR to NOT RISK going with this guy. Goto your local flee market and buy these nike things... shit you're probably safer trying to steal them from the nike store yourself! I dont condone that though ;)
TSE im not letting this go... You are Zeus.
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My thoughts exactly. Except the part about mixing drugs and alcohol lol.
You dont agree with drug use? how did you find out about SR?
HOW COULD YOU THINK THERE WAS A MARKET HERE FOR SOCIALLY ENGINEERED PRODUCTS?
when your account was started there were 0 social engineers on the road.
How do you know about all of silkroads different procedures like finalizing early?
MAYBE YOU HAD SOME EXPERIENCE ALREADY ON SR.
IF ZUES/THESOCIALENGINEER/BRONZEFIDELITY/RESELLER ASK FOR FE AT ANY POINT, DO NOT FE HE IS THE NEXT REINCARNATION OF ZUES/THESOCIALENGINEER/BRONZEFIDELITY/RESELLER
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I don't finalize early, period. No matter the circumstances. He can build all the trust he wants while im still receiving my products through escrow, I don't care if he was my best friend still not gonna finalize early. You guys are fucking ridiculous. Just leave the dude alone if your gonna keep throwing fits. There is no way I can be scammed, sorry. Never have been never will be, especially here. Scams are way too obvious here. This is not a scam. But feel free to think it is so I can mop up all the extra cash to be made off his stuff.
Your degree has nothing to do with anything right now, you can have a degree and still be stupid as fuck, especially on the millions of things you aren't educated in.
ak94w.....get off your high school computer and go learn something. You have no idea whats going on.
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TheSocialEngineer is Zeus. If you can't see that you weren't watching him close enough. BronzeFidelity was/is the only vendor I "liked". I watched his listings multiple times per day. I could tell you when his 200 netflix accounts fell off and then were relisted. Same with his kindles. I read every one of his feedbacks and read them on the product page listings so I knew which feedback was for which product. I was intrigued and going to place an order. Shit, when Zeus asked on the forums for 0.4btc because he needed it, I sent it to him.
Zeus had a working business model. He loaded up between 8k and 10k in orders and split. Maybe because he couldn't SE/card apple or maybe just walking away with $10k was just too tempting to resist. But he had a working business model. Why fuck that over? It's not like he can pop up on ebay and sell his wares, this is the only market. As soon as he scammed ppl and left I knew he'd be back. Here he is. This is an anon market, nobody is gunna be able to post IP's and actually prove it. But the similarities, not just being a (THE ONLY) social engineer on silkroad, are uncanny. I'm not going to start listing them out, it will actually help the guy out for next time. Ya know, if BronzeFidelity would have paid for all the Kindles he sold on silkroad even after his $10k scam he would have come out ahead. I speculate he might have been buying them with his own cash, just to setup the master scam.
So if you're ordering and staying within escrow, what's the big deal? Well you're supporting a scammer. Perhaps you're not getting scammed but you're going to pay a man that still owes your peers $10k. I honestly think thieves should be shot. Thieves are the bottom of the bottom. I don't even want to associate myself with anybody that even does business with this thief.
I am almost certain Zeus used this method or something similar to this.
http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/viewtopic.php?t=1655
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My thoughts exactly. Except the part about mixing drugs and alcohol lol.
You dont agree with drug use? how did you find out about SR?
I don't personally mix drugs and alcohol because I know how dangerous it is. I have no problem with drug use, I drink, I smoke weed and I take X in the club sometimes, but I never mix alcohol with my drug use except weed (sometimes).
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Why would he instantly come back and offer all items through escrow? Are you fucking COMPLETELY ignorant?
He lies for a living.
Actually I make a living by other means. I just do this for fun and a bit on the side.
Shit can't you even notice his forum signatures? He might as well have copied/pasted his signature over from Reseller. DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. That was still on Resellers SR account verbatim from the day he started until the day he was banned, even though $10k worth of merchandise was FE'd.
Stop comparing me to that scammer. Almost all vendors remind their buyers not to finalise early...
He started up like a week ago and he knows the ins and outs of Silkroad. He doesn't promote drug use, so what did he do to get so familiar with this site and software and procedures?
Where did you get that from? I smoke weed and take ecstasy... All I said was I don't mix alcohol and drugs. I hope you don't jump to conclusions about people like this in the real world.
The only losers in this are the insurance companies who foot the bill for these products. I don't give a fuck about them.
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OK I think we have reached a conclusion.
The Social Engineer = Zues
Anyone who thinks otherwise is obviously blinded by their greed for a good deal which is what caused them to lose out on so much money when zues was selling the apple products.
Do not repeat the same mistakes.
Do not line the pockets of this obvious reincarnation of the biggest scammer on silk road
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OK I think we have reached a conclusion.
The Social Engineer = Zues
I am offering high valued items with no need to finalize early. Zeus only did that on high priced items with the condition that people finalize early.
Until I have a closing down sale and demand that people FE (which I will never), you need to settle down with the speculation and accusations.
P.S. I hate Danny McBride.
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Since when does not mixing drugs and liquor mean someone doesn't like drugs?
Fuck, you guys are just LOOKING for excuses to hate on this guy now. It's fucking pathetic. I've never ordered from the guy. Probably never will. Drugs > Electronics. ;) But come on now. Give it a break.
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Can you take requests? Like, say... cameras?
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Can you take requests? Like, say... cameras?
No. If you want a camera, buy one of my listings, resell it on craigslist/ebay/flea market/pawn shop and then buy the camera. ;)
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Since when does not mixing drugs and liquor mean someone doesn't like drugs?
Fuck, you guys are just LOOKING for excuses to hate on this guy now. It's fucking pathetic. I've never ordered from the guy. Probably never will. Drugs > Electronics. ;) But come on now. Give it a break.
Seriously though...how fucking ignorant can you be to even think this dude is remotely like zeus. Sorry but thats just flat out retard level ignorance right there.
My nike fuelbands should be in here in the next couple days if not today.
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Zeus always switched between spelling it finalize and finalise, just like you. Keep typing, i'm throwing everything you put into a bayesian filter and comparing it to everything Zeus typed. "Weak accents indicate Eurpoean" on both users.
Dankology, take the blinders off. Nobody is saying you won't get your product, just that you're supporting a scumbag. If you haven't seen it yet, you aren't going to see it at all. You just as bad as a thief.
Seriously though...how fucking ignorant can you be to even think this dude is remotely like zeus.
Are you retarded. The similarities are thru the roof. You can claim I'm just speculating but to say there are no similarities is just a farce at this point. Your grasping at straws. Even TheSocialEngineer says their problem is the similarities. Now like usual TSE will reply 3-4x as to bump any negative posts away from the recent stuff and take any positive comments and throw it in the original post. Make sure to update your quote to something of high morals.
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YOU HAVE NO FUCKING PROOF EITHER WAY CALITREES.
Oh my god. Im not funding a fucking scammer. How can you seriously keep claiming this based on NOTHING. "Weak accent indicates european" thats really fucking funny because hes a USA vendor. Incredible the balls you have on you. Who the fuck are you to even make these claims? Seriously, tell me, who the fuck are you to claim something like this? You know nothing. So why don't you fuck off and leave it alone?
I would have never became a vendor if people came and called me a scammer because I started selling LSD right after ForeverFamily and gummystars.
Calitrees, You are offensive and a complete asshole for coming to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever other than the fact that they say finalize two different ways, which I see happen from TONS OF PEOPLE. This is incredibly ignorant to use towards an assumption that he is a scammer.
My mouth actually drops seeing how ignorant people are, claiming that this guy is Zeus based on NOTHING. Seriously, look through the posts, they are just pulling shit out of their asses, all of them. I feel like we're back in the middle fucking ages calling people out for being witches.
You guys seriously need to
Grow. Up.
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YOU HAVE NO FUCKING PROOF EITHER WAY CALITREES.
Oh my god. Im not funding a fucking scammer. How can you seriously keep claiming this based on NOTHING. "Weak accent indicates european" thats really fucking funny because hes a USA vendor. Incredible the balls you have on you. Who the fuck are you to even make these claims? Seriously, tell me, who the fuck are you to claim something like this? You know nothing. So why don't you fuck off and leave it alone?
I would have never became a vendor if people came and called me a scammer because I started selling LSD right after ForeverFamily and gummystars.
Calitrees, You are offensive and a complete asshole for coming to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever other than the fact that they say finalize two different ways, which I see happen from TONS OF PEOPLE. This is incredibly ignorant to use towards an assumption that he is a scammer.
My mouth actually drops seeing how ignorant people are, claiming that this guy is Zeus based on NOTHING. Seriously, look through the posts, they are just pulling shit out of their asses, all of them. I feel like we're back in the middle fucking ages calling people out for being witches.
You guys seriously need to
Grow. Up.
dank dude... you need to chill out. we are trying to protect people here. another HUGE "coincidence" . new user jkim802 decides to pop up out of nowhere posting in defense of TSE . then jkim802 provides a link to HackBB with a neat link on how Zeus scammed the kindles. then i do some browsing in other posts on HackBB and find the user ZeuS.. hmm.. interesting.. then i find another thread with jkim8022 talking about how he as socially engineered 6 or 7 kindles to over 5 UPS stores. Check it out on HackBB: http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1044&start=10
There are clearly way too many similarities here. This guy is Zeus without a doubt. Dank you may not have gotten flamed as a scammer coming in selling lucy right after 2 scammers... because u probably didn't exhibit UNDENIABLY STRIKING SIMILARITIES to those two scammers. From the way he uniquiely mispells words, talks the same, is OH SO convincing, etc etc.
Seriously... u will probably get your shit now. but the bubble is going to pop one day in the not so far future.
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To anyone with further doughts...
SR as a website sadly is plagued by a problem of sellers scamming then returning not so long after to build up their rep and scam again. Over and over, when will you pull the wool from your eyes?
So... do let zeus build up his rep again. We as a community should strongly stand against the scammers that are trying to ruin the website we love.
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I will never finalize, so I won't get scammed. I'm done arguing against you guys, whoever he is he's providing products I want through escrow so he will be receiving my business. Sorry if I seem a little overheated, I just tend to curse a lot in general.
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YOU HAVE NO FUCKING PROOF EITHER WAY CALITREES.
Oh my god. Im not funding a fucking scammer. How can you seriously keep claiming this based on NOTHING. "Weak accent indicates european" thats really fucking funny because hes a USA vendor. Incredible the balls you have on you. Who the fuck are you to even make these claims? Seriously, tell me, who the fuck are you to claim something like this? You know nothing. So why don't you fuck off and leave it alone?
I would have never became a vendor if people came and called me a scammer because I started selling LSD right after ForeverFamily and gummystars.
Calitrees, You are offensive and a complete asshole for coming to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever other than the fact that they say finalize two different ways, which I see happen from TONS OF PEOPLE. This is incredibly ignorant to use towards an assumption that he is a scammer.
My mouth actually drops seeing how ignorant people are, claiming that this guy is Zeus based on NOTHING. Seriously, look through the posts, they are just pulling shit out of their asses, all of them. I feel like we're back in the middle fucking ages calling people out for being witches.
You guys seriously need to
Grow. Up.
dank dude... you need to chill out. we are trying to protect people here. another HUGE "coincidence" . new user jkim802 decides to pop up out of nowhere posting in defense of TSE . then jkim802 provides a link to HackBB with a neat link on how Zeus scammed the kindles. then i do some browsing in other posts on HackBB and find the user ZeuS.. hmm.. interesting.. then i find another thread with jkim8022 talking about how he as socially engineered 6 or 7 kindles to over 5 UPS stores. Check it out on HackBB: http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1044&start=10
There are clearly way too many similarities here. This guy is Zeus without a doubt. Dank you may not have gotten flamed as a scammer coming in selling lucy right after 2 scammers... because u probably didn't exhibit UNDENIABLY STRIKING SIMILARITIES to those two scammers. From the way he uniquiely mispells words, talks the same, is OH SO convincing, etc etc.
Seriously... u will probably get your shit now. but the bubble is going to pop one day in the not so far future.
Are you for real right now... ???
You guys need to stop being so paranoid and yes I did used to socially engineer kindles wither they were DX's or Fires but you realized that HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SE KINDLES... GOD you are just the most paranoid mofo ever. If there is a member named Zeus, how in the hell does that mean I am him?
Don't judge a guy until HE ACTUALLY DOES ASK YOU TO "FINALIZE EARLY" and it seems like the other senior members agree...
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In fact, I have the fucking .pdf of the guide on how to socially engineer kindles from amazon. Its fucking simple. These guys are just ignorant finger pointers. Whatever.
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In fact, I have the fucking .pdf of the guide on how to socially engineer kindles from amazon. Its fucking simple. These guys are just ignorant finger pointers. Whatever.
Mind sharing the link sir?
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I'm looking forward to this thread being brought up again in 2-3 months when people are like "OMG I LOST ALL MAH COINS :((((".
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I don't think it'll be a FE scam. I'm not gunna let this thread go very long without another warning to new users. TSE likes to post multiple times to get the negative posts lost but I'm not gunna let that happen. So if it is an FE scam it won't be very successful. He's a SE i'm sure he can think of another way to scam. Maybe like a COD type of scam or billed later. I dunno.
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In fact, I have the fucking .pdf of the guide on how to socially engineer kindles from amazon. Its fucking simple. These guys are just ignorant finger pointers. Whatever.
Mind sharing the link sir?
Wanna pay me 2 bucks? I had to pay for it on here, now its gone and ill have to reupload the .pdf myself.
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In fact, I have the fucking .pdf of the guide on how to socially engineer kindles from amazon. Its fucking simple. These guys are just ignorant finger pointers. Whatever.
Mind sharing the link sir?
Here is the link that was posted in the HackBB forums,
http://utovvyhaflle76gh.onion/sTORage/Amazon%20Operator.pdf
If it isn't working, just tell me and I will personally reupload the pdf to another filesharing site on tor
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Damn it! I just got 19 btc to go and buy a nike fuelband... when will you be able to accept more requests?
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Got my 2 nike fuel bands in today, everything came in perfect brand new condition. Took like 3 days. Scammer my ass. Ya'll can go jump on one! Had a great experience with this vendor.
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Got my 2 nike fuel bands in today, everything came in perfect brand new condition. Took like 3 days. Scammer my ass. Ya'll can go jump on one! Had a great experience with this vendor.
rode hard and put away wet.
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Got my 2 nike fuel bands in today, everything came in perfect brand new condition. Took like 3 days. Scammer my ass. Ya'll can go jump on one! Had a great experience with this vendor.
rode hard and put away wet.
Please don't spam my Vouch thread. You don't need to speculate about X possibility, everyone knows the risks of SR. I don't like being accused of things I am not.
Until I ask people to finalize early, get off my back. If you try to defame me again I will report your posts to the moderators.
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Just a heads up, received my fuelband on Friday. so personally i cant say anything bad about this vendor, everything was just as it should be, and he was completely in favor of escrow.
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Just a heads up, received my fuelband on Friday. so personally i cant say anything bad about this vendor, everything was just as it should be, and he was completely in favor of escrow.
Hope you enjoy it Candyman!
I'd like to remind everyone I don't only sell fuel bands! Take a peek at my other listings: silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/eaf2b21929
No early finalization required on any of my listings. I will cancel and refund the orders of buyers with no purchase history or high refund rates.
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In fact, I have the fucking .pdf of the guide on how to socially engineer kindles from amazon. Its fucking simple. These guys are just ignorant finger pointers. Whatever.
Mind sharing the link sir?
Wanna pay me 2 bucks? I had to pay for it on here, now its gone and ill have to reupload the .pdf myself.
Hah I was about to and then I saw the link below, thanks to you both!
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Hi, I'm fairly new so my opinion might not carry a lot of weight. But I was considering buying from TSE (The 32" TV was very appealing) so I decided to check out this thread and take a look at his vouchs.
First: As someone familiar w/ social engineering I wouldn't call myself one. But I've definitely been around the bock a few times.
So that being said, I've never been on SR until today, I was quite surprised by it falling into my lap out of the blue. I've done "ILLICIT" trading of Game Items and BTC mined personally for years without hearing about this site. I do some pretty average programming and network security so I was pretty familiar with all the stuff required to view SR and or trade on SR. One of the things that was somewhat new to me was the using personal keys as a concept to trade personal info. I liked it, it was pretty secure and worked efficiently the way you'd want it to. Cool stuff right?
The thing, the only thing, that put me off guard about TSE was. I having never been around SR before, had never even heard of "Zeus." I only know of "TheSocialEngineer". But what I can say is, how does someone newer than me, know everything about how this site works, have vested background knowledge of not only a specific person who was gone before you arrived, but about how the entire site works, NOT KNOW WHAT A PGP KEY IS. You know everything about this site including the people and what they even SOLD and HOW THEY DID IT.
But you don't know how to setup a PGP key and you make it sound like you're innocent and new to this whole scene. Then you come in full force like a tank.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/eaf2b21929
"I am currently working on getting a Public Key to encrypt anything you send me but until then, please bear with me. Feel free to use www.privnote.com to send me your addresses until I work out how to use this PGP encryption stuff."
You have a system already in place to get around the PGP key that you allegedly know nothing about. Yet you know everything about a site that you're new to?
My question is, if you're not the Zeus person they're talking about. Who the hell are you?
I have more thoughts on the matter but they're mostly speculation, but I'll withhold those till I get a clear answer.
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My question is, if you're not the Zeus person they're talking about. Who the hell are you?
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I came to SR initially as a buyer this year (just buying some gear to test it out). When I decided to become a vendor I saw that SR support recommended I use a clean account to sell stuff, and thus TSE was born. In regards to not using PGP, I'm just too lazy to download it as of yet lol and tbh I don't think its even necessary for what I'm doing. I don't even use PGP on my buyer account as I don't see a need for it. I only found privnote recently when a buyer of mine used it.
I can see why people are hostile because another self-professed social engineer scammed them, but I am not asking people to finalise early so until I do, people need to leave me alone.
As another forum user said: Don't hang an innocent man for the crimes of a guilty man.
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I'm currently having a sale on the kitchenaid mixers. I can't believe noone has purchased yet, this is an absolute bargain... only 50 bitcoins! Check it out and price check it on amazon/ebay, link in my sig!
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edit: TSE, any chance of you reshipping these?
I guess I could setup mail somewhere if I had to but this is the one reason why I wouldn't want carded shit sent to my address
I'm also curious how the fuck someone can SE a mixer =) haha
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edit: TSE, any chance of you reshipping these?
I guess I could setup mail somewhere if I had to but this is the one reason why I wouldn't want carded shit sent to my address
I'm also curious how the fuck someone can SE a mixer =) haha
This isn't carded. As long as you give me a US or Canadian address I can do my service for you. And as to "how" I do it, well thats my secret. ;)
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I have some feedback now, thanks for giving me a go to the buyers who purchased first! Check out my listings before prices rise! See links below in my signature.
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Silkroad was down for me the past three days! Did this happen to anyone else? I would consider buying your kitchen mixer but the market for one is pretty non-existent lol sorry.
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Silkroad was down for me the past three days! Did this happen to anyone else? I would consider buying your kitchen mixer but the market for one is pretty non-existent lol sorry.
No... Dude I'd lay low for awhile if I were you or start using TOR from a different computer.
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Why is that?
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Why is that?
Indeed
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Items still on sale.
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Sale ending soon.
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New listing up on foodsavers.
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Sale still on!
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Sale still on!
NOONE WANTS YOUR SHIT ZUES SO QUIT BUMPING YOUR THREAD
4 TIMES IN A ROW? THE FUCK YOU THINK YOU ARE
THOUGHT YOU LEFT THE ROAD ALREADY
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fuck you zeus, fucking scammer, fucking low life, fucking rat bastard, fucking ignorant, fucking insignificunt, fucking dumbshit, fucking loser, fucking ball-less, bald, ugly, toothless, limping, racoon-faced, hippo stank, worthless, no one loves you, french fried faggot.
fuck you zeus. its zeus everybody. zeus. social engineer? thats zeus. you are so low IQ did a bus run you over? what kind of syndrome makes you that way. cunt
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fuck you zeus, fucking scammer, fucking low life, fucking rat bastard, fucking ignorant, fucking insignificunt, fucking dumbshit, fucking loser, fucking ball-less, bald, ugly, toothless, limping, racoon-faced, hippo stank, worthless, no one loves you, french fried faggot.
fuck you zeus. its zeus everybody. zeus. social engineer? thats zeus. you are so low IQ did a bus run you over? what kind of syndrome makes you that way. cunt
Calm your guns son. I'm not that guy.
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Planing on ordering a Kitchenaid mixer, I'll be posting back with results.
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TheSocialEngineer, hey man, trying to do business. Where are you?
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It looks like he's folded shop?
Hasn't logged in for 8 days; no active listings; still has unsettled transactions....
Does this guy still owe any of you?
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I have an order for a TV in escrow that was never marked as shipped. So I am able to cancel...really wanted the TV.
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I jumped to conclusions to soon. TSE is back on today.
Apologies for thinking the worst, TSE...
Rufus-- TSE did come through with the tv for me just a little over a week ago. It's the mixer that I'm currently waiting on.. I'd give him a chance to come through on the tv if you haven't already cancelled your order. It's an awesome deal, bro...
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UPDATE: I ended up ordering the mixer, came through with no problems. Resold quick and made $400. Good Vendor no problems
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I'd just like to point out that if Zeus was able to con $10k out of people by coaxing them into breaking the rules, more power to him. Those poor, poor buyers should have followed the RULES by staying in escrow, regardless of feedback ratings, prices, etc. Let that be a lesson to *all* buyers - if you finalize early, you're handing your money over to a complete stranger with absolutely no guarantee that you'll be compensated in any way, shape or form for your kind gesture. The escrow system is in place for a reason. If you stay in it, it's much harder for a seller to keep your money without delivering anything to you.
I'm glad to see that everyone has pried their noses out of TSE's stink hole because even if he was Zeus, all of this abhorrent slander has thus far been grossly unwarranted. Until the day comes when TSE actually scams someone or blatantly admits that he was Zeus, your public defamation with an absolute lack of direct, tangible, measurable evidence constitutes a felony on the streets. And if TSE wasn't Zeus and I could tangibly disprove the claim in its entirety, I'd be the first one to start knocking teeth down the throats of every single one of the libelist scum who have spent their time making these selfish claims, as opposed to the proper, socially acceptable method of dealing with suspicions of this manner: offering up the possibility as an opinion and warning potential buyers to do their homework and stay in escrow at all times.
Normally, I'd have just gone through the transaction process quietly, but I've been the defendant in a case wherein I was being accused of a violent crime (against animals, no less) that I had nothing to even do with. Even after being acquitted of the charges with nothing more than a public defender who was fresh out of law school, acquaintances of my family and friends would let them know what a horrible piece of shit I was and how they wished I were dead etc. I know first-hand how it feels to live in the shadow of a man who is considered to be a despicable monster by society's standards, and lemme tell ya - if TSE wasn't Zeus, I hope you all drown to death while fully conscious and simultaneously witnessing your parents, siblings and children drowning to death alongside your sorry asses.
-Thx ;D
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thinking of taking this guy up on one of his loans. if i'm gonna start buying domestic i wanna sweeten it somehow. can wait two weeks and then get 5 pills instead of 4, methinks.
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TheSocialEngineer continues to treat the buyers like idiots, this time posting a 0BTC listing "Show me your purchasing history." with the message "Purchase this listing for free so I can see your purchasing history and know you are legit!"
TSE continues to demand things from the buyers he doesn't need to, and no doubt stores info about them he shouldn't. Everything about the way this vendor behaves and conducts him/herself generates little confidence. Reminds me of street dealers who think they are awesome and treat their buyers like pests instead of partners (which is what they really are).