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Title: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: klaw239 on May 07, 2013, 11:41 pm
my addition is never and i mean never mix .

xanax and heroin. i learned that the hard way.
xanax and methadone

please post your knowledge to try and help save a life that may not know or two lazy to look it up. best wishes to all.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: BreakOnThrough on May 08, 2013, 09:10 am
Alcohol and GHB so I hear.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: grdr on May 08, 2013, 09:14 am
benzodiazepines and heroin... is xanax special ? i know it's very strong benzodiazepine alprazolam it is - 2 mg bars is INSANE . I mean starting dose should be 0.5 mg .. US doctors in my opinion prescribes too much and too large doses of alprazolam.

Edit:

A bar of alprazolam (xanax) equals 40 mg of diazepam or 4 mg  of flunitrazepam. thats 2 roofies or whatever you call them right there. So no wonder if some kid takes a bar and shoots some H then never wakes up. Alot of died this way. In my country there's max 1 mg alpraazolam in other there's not even 1 mg but 0.25 and 0.5.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 08, 2013, 09:27 am
Opiates and CNS depressants (alcohol, benzos etc)
MDMA and Alcohol (a beer is okay, lots of beers not advised)
Cocaine and Alcohol (turns the coke into a nasty drug in the body that is more toxic)
Speed and MDMA (can be hard on the heart)
Alcohol and benzos (can be a big no no if the dose it got wrong and alcohol does not aid judgment)
Cocaine and speed/meth (too much up, not good)

General advice is don't mix downers with downers as you can go too down, don't mix uppers with uppers and you can go too up. Don't mix uppers and downers as one can ware off and you OD on the other one. Alcohol can be risky to mix with most things where as weed is okay to mix with most things (assuming you like weed). People do mix these things with varying degrees of success (from fun to death) but for newbies its defiantly not advisable.

Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: grdr on May 08, 2013, 09:29 am
Opiates and CNS depressants (alcohol, benzos etc)
MDMA and Alcohol (a beer is okay, lots of beers not advised)
Cocaine and Alcohol (turns the coke into a nasty drug in the body that is more toxic)
Speed and MDMA (can be hard on the heart)
Alcohol and benzos (can be a big no no if the dose it got wrong and alcohol does not aid judgment)
Cocaine and speed/meth (too much up, not good)

General advice is don't mix downers with downers as you can go too down, don't mix uppers with uppers and you can go too up. Don't mix uppers and downers as one can ware off and you OD on the other one. Alcohol can be risky to mix with most things where as weed is okay to mix with most things (assuming you like weed). People do mix these things with varying degrees of success (from fun to death) but for newbies its defiantly not advisable.


mehh..... heroin bad quality you have to take some benzos to better the high ... alcohol (couple of beers) and  10 mg of diazepam isn't that bad too
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 08, 2013, 09:34 am
mehh..... heroin bad quality you have to take some benzos to better the high ... alcohol (couple of beers) and  10 mg of diazepam isn't that bad too

Yup I would agree I am just posting the safest path for newbies as I said people do mix these things. Personally I like a small dose of xanax and some sedating antihistamine with my oxys but I wouldn't recommend it to someone just starting out (especially with no tolerance or experience of either) with opiates that's all.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: joywind on May 08, 2013, 10:10 am
- cocaine and heroin (speedball). Very bad for heart, contrary to what some people think.

- heroin and MDMA

- benzos and alcohol

Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: Seeds and Stuff on May 08, 2013, 11:32 am
ketamine and alcohol has to be the worst!
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 08, 2013, 12:36 pm
ketamine and alcohol has to be the worst!

why do you find that? does it give you nausea? 
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: Seeds and Stuff on May 08, 2013, 12:41 pm
ketamine and alcohol has to be the worst!

why do you find that? does it give you nausea?

Every-time Iv experienced it, it's just been awful. very nauseous (if thats the word) makes me feel like im sinking horrendously, impossible to speak to anybody - not cool

My friend was on a night out and got offered a big line by someone who told him it was m-kat when it was actually ketamine (nasty trick to pull), he sniffed it and spent the night in hospital

really bad combo if you ask me
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 08, 2013, 12:46 pm
a night in hospital for K? was he really drunk or did people panic?

I like mixing the two but only in small accounts. Also I am rather frond of K never found anything I didn't like it with. Makes a great breakfast at a festival, saves on the washing up to lol
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: Seeds and Stuff on May 08, 2013, 01:02 pm
He was really drunk and sniffed a big line i'm guessing about 0.4g, I think the panic factor is a part as he was expecting a completely different effect.

Just some really nasty people around, another one of my friends got offered a line of 'coke' which was actually 2cb probably about 45mg, not a nice thing to do especially when he had never had trippers before. Put him off for life now which is sad :(  (but thats a different story)

But yes, I love ketamine i just have never seen anything good come of it when its been mixed with alcohol.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: AussieMitch on May 08, 2013, 01:17 pm
Meth and Xanax!

I have witnessed someone die from this combination.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 08, 2013, 01:25 pm
Meth and Xanax!

I have witnessed someone die from this combination.

Do you know the dose? what was it, a heart attack? sorry to hear that :(

Also a bit worrying as I have taken both together.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: 46andtwo on May 08, 2013, 09:13 pm
MAOIs are serious biz

Deadly combos with MAOIs (taken from erowid):
  **Amphetamine, speed
  **MDMA, (I believe any MDxx form including MDE, MDA)
  **All SSRIs (prozac, zoloft, and several other anti-depressants)
SSRIs block the reuptake of serotonin in the brain. Because MAOIs inhibit the breakdown of serotonin, the combination of MAOIs and SSRIs can lead to dangerously high levels of serotonin in the brain (serotonin syndrome). Symptoms of serotonin syndrome include nausea, vomiting, blackouts, memory loss, increased blood pressure and increased heart rate.
  **Cough medications containing decongestants, Dextromethorphan (DXM), or Demerol
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: jackofspades on May 09, 2013, 06:00 am
Anyone ever mix LSD with Shrooms?  or RC's or any other del's?

I have not just curious.

Kpins and booze are badddd like badd bad.

MDMA with speed (amphetamines) just ecstasy?

-JOS
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: bamoida2 on May 09, 2013, 06:05 am
Meth + LSD (or pretty much any strong stimulant in combination with a psychedelic[at least not in high dosages])
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: DigitalDong on May 11, 2013, 02:52 am
GHB and any downer.. ghb + opiates or ghb +alcohol , or ghb + benzos are all bad ideas.. even make sure you do not have trace amounts of benzos from up to 3 or 4 days before..
be safe dont mess with Ghb. seen it hurt too many ppl
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: KawaiiDesu on May 11, 2013, 06:20 am
Amphetamines + LSD (good recipe for a bad trip)
Amphetamines + MDMA (neurotoxicity)
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: joywind on May 11, 2013, 07:55 am
Amphetamines + LSD (good recipe for a bad trip)
Amphetamines + MDMA (neurotoxicity)
low dose of amphetamine can be combined with LSD, considerably enhancing the trip. Almost like candyflipping. However, I would only recommend this to experienced users of both drugs.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: AussieMitch on May 11, 2013, 08:47 am
Meth and Xanax!

I have witnessed someone die from this combination.

Do you know the dose? what was it, a heart attack? sorry to hear that :(

Also a bit worrying as I have taken both together.

I'm not sure about the exact dose but he had been smoking meth for several days before he took a couple of xanax and kept smoking. After feeling sick he went into a bedroom to lie down and was dead when we checked on him a couple of hours later.

I never touch benzo's with stims, I think GBL/GHB is a far safer option if you have it available.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: lunarpursuit on May 12, 2013, 08:06 pm
Alcohol and Heroin
Xanax and Heroin
GHB and Alcohol
Xanax and Alcohol
Cocaine and MDMA (Not necessarily dangerous, they slightly nullify each others effects though)

ketamine and alcohol has to be the worst!

DISAGREE.

Dosage is everything, kids.

Also, be careful with MAOI's like dude said!
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: moonflower on May 12, 2013, 08:59 pm
Anyone ever mix LSD with Shrooms?  or RC's or any other del's?

I have not just curious.

Kpins and booze are badddd like badd bad.

MDMA with speed (amphetamines) just ecstasy?

-JOS
i've mixed lsd with mushrooms, mdma, ketamine and nitrous. that was one hell of a combination! one of the most magical trips i've had yet.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: joywind on May 12, 2013, 09:13 pm
Anyone ever mix LSD with Shrooms?  or RC's or any other del's?

I have not just curious.

Kpins and booze are badddd like badd bad.

MDMA with speed (amphetamines) just ecstasy?

-JOS
i've mixed lsd with mushrooms, mdma, ketamine and nitrous. that was one hell of a combination! one of the most magical trips i've had yet.
and a good recipe for serotonin syndrome. i would be careful with such a combination.

Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: valakki on May 13, 2013, 11:29 am
for newbs?
opiates wit the bloodstream. dont iv.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: RaFaeL5 on May 13, 2013, 03:15 pm
GHB and alcohol!!!
never, ever, ever, god**** NeVeR



but ketamine + alcohol  is something I very much enjoy...

MAO's are dangerous to combine with almost everything, do research...

psychedelics and stimulants can be great together, but harder to trip out (paranoia!). Speed and LSD were a common combination for me and my GF some years ago. We had no problems with it, it even seems that taking some speed prior to taking LSD can enhance the experience (or make it deeper/more intense).

shrooms and LSD can be fun... I did it some times years ago, but can't really remember the dosages, only that I had a good time when I combined them...

LSD and xtx/mdma is off course one of the best (and safe!) combo, just remember to stay away from alcohol when using MD's.

And coke and alcohol are fun, but the combination of both products in your body is not so nice... especially on the longer term!
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: Minchia on May 13, 2013, 08:26 pm
well if the combination isn't very toxic (use google) and newbie is curious then i would say go for it!
many posts here are subjective opinions, you gonna have to see for yourself in the end..
alcohol is mainly in here cause you will loose self control and overdose the combining substance

its all about setting and dosing. start small, get experience and have fun


cheers minchia
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: android465764E on May 14, 2013, 01:20 pm
Heroin and coke.
Seen some crumpled, broken people as a result of that one.

It's all relative though I suppose. Dosage is key methinks, with any combo.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 03:01 pm
MAOIs are serious biz

Deadly combos with MAOIs (taken from erowid):
  **Amphetamine, speed
  **MDMA, (I believe any MDxx form including MDE, MDA)
  **All SSRIs (prozac, zoloft, and several other anti-depressants)
SSRIs block the reuptake of serotonin in the brain. Because MAOIs inhibit the breakdown of serotonin, the combination of MAOIs and SSRIs can lead to dangerously high levels of serotonin in the brain (serotonin syndrome). Symptoms of serotonin syndrome include nausea, vomiting, blackouts, memory loss, increased blood pressure and increased heart rate.
  **Cough medications containing decongestants, Dextromethorphan (DXM), or Demerol

Good point, you cant even eat Marmite and Bovril (yeast spread) when your on MAOIs. And its also important to note that things like changa contain MAOIs in order to allow you to smoke the drug.

Also if you are on any SSRIs avoid drugs like MDMA!

Research Research Research
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 03:19 pm
benzodiazepines and heroin... is xanax special ? i know it's very strong benzodiazepine alprazolam it is - 2 mg bars is INSANE . I mean starting dose should be 0.5 mg .. US doctors in my opinion prescribes too much and too large doses of alprazolam.

Edit:

A bar of alprazolam (xanax) equals 40 mg of diazepam or 4 mg  of flunitrazepam. thats 2 roofies or whatever you call them right there. So no wonder if some kid takes a bar and shoots some H then never wakes up. Alot of died this way. In my country there's max 1 mg alpraazolam in other there's not even 1 mg but 0.25 and 0.5.
Couldn't agree more. They hand that stuff out way too easily. I find that 0.5mg hits me within 15 minutes and puts me right out. I took one once before I drove a car (newbie mistake) and I nearly fell asleep at the wheel. I can't believe how easy it is to get this stuff. And the addiction potential is high as well. Xanax is always good to have around in case you overdo the stim's though. It'll bring you right down and cancel out and symptoms of an overdose.
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: Minchia on May 14, 2013, 03:20 pm
Good point, you cant even eat Marmite and Bovril (yeast spread) when your on MAOIs. And its also important to note that things like changa contain MAOIs in order to allow you to smoke the drug.

Also if you are on any SSRIs avoid drugs like MDMA!

not exactly right, MAOIs in changa should enhance duration/effect when smoking it.

you can smoke DMT without MAOIs
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 03:32 pm
Good point, you cant even eat Marmite and Bovril (yeast spread) when your on MAOIs. And its also important to note that things like changa contain MAOIs in order to allow you to smoke the drug.

Also if you are on any SSRIs avoid drugs like MDMA!

not exactly right, MAOIs in changa should enhance duration/effect when smoking it.

you can smoke DMT without MAOIs

I thought you had to vaporize?

Either way I am sure you know more than I, I have only done DMT a couple of times. My point was really just be aware that you may be using MAOIs without realizing.

Much love

LP
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: ganjafarmer on August 08, 2013, 08:30 pm
How long should I wait to snort Heroin after taking .5-1mg Xanax daily for 3 days?I took 1mg this morning but my package came today and want to try out this new gear. I never do much H at all just enough to have a feeling of euphoria but I don't want any complications.GF
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: sollemnis on August 08, 2013, 09:30 pm
Coke and Speed. Worst combination I've ever taken. I don't like MDMA and Coke either... there's no synergy.

Oh and the best combo M1 + Meph, I just thought I'd add that ;)
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on August 08, 2013, 11:24 pm
Amphetamine sulphate and alcohol.

Although the two are not killing people off on a daily basis, I would caution anyone who is a regular user of amphetamines and alcohol. The speed ups you alcohol tolerance big time. Your taking a stimulant and a downer, but although you may not feel like you have drank 15 pints and a hlf a bottle of vodka, your body will let you know the next day!

I know speed is popular with younger people. Helps many keep up drinking when they should just drink less!

I no loger use speed but will have the odd rare pop of 10-15mg dexamphetamine, no come down, no massive tolerance in alcohol and you can eat on it. Use too often and you will complain that 100mg is not cutting it anymore. Less is always more with any stimulant in my book. I am also gobsmaked that any doc could prescribe dex to a child. Its a drug! A very real drug! I think the jury is out on tha issue. Attention deficit? Give them speed? What next, heroin if your yawning?

Also on a serious note, NEVER mix sleeping pills with alcohol.

And mixing cannabis with alcohol takes lots of practice to get it just right. I prefer to hit the pub at 7-8pm, drink a few, sneak out to the beer garden and light up a sly one. Sometimes we slip a little piece of hash into a ciggarette, that gives a nice little hit so you can walk back into the pub a little high. I like a joint walking home also. Prefer hash as the skunk is like a cop magnet. They can smell it a mile off! All depends on wind direction really. The local cops know a lot of the guys and girls toke, but you play the game, hide it and they drink in the local so we don't want to take the piss!

Smoke in the high street as women and kids are walking past and your asking for a grilling and possible on the spot fine. Keep it discreet and most cops don't give a momnkeys as they got better things to do and thats a fact most concede in private. So no smoking skunk in your car! Don't walk around the middle of town on a pub crawl with a rocket hanging out your mouth.

Alcohol and many drugs get people arrested every hour of every day of the week. All year round. Always take precautions when going out to get a bit wrecked. Stash your substances or disguise them. Women have it easy really for stashing.  ;D All me have is an uncomfortable and unhygenic stash. Its hardly convinient or cool to grab a wrap of coke out of your ass for your buddy to rail.  ;D

Like, some good shit dude!

I'd be punched.  ;D

Wise man say

Don't stash the hash
Up your ass.

Good stuff this Maroc No ! I'm smoking with my buddy. Work tomorrow but got a lift in and can get a bit high as we check out what treats we need for upcoming parties!
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: yunalesca on August 09, 2013, 02:36 pm
Alcohol and Heroin
Xanax and Heroin
GHB and Alcohol
Xanax and Alcohol
Cocaine and MDMA (Not necessarily dangerous, they slightly nullify each others effects though)

I've mixed xanax and alcohol with some success.  I mean you get drunk like twice as fast so you don't want to line up 5 shots of whiskey or anything but I've found a pint or two with .5mg of xanax actually puts me in a very social/fun mood.  Don't expect to drive anywhere for a bit though!
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: woundedvet11 on August 13, 2013, 05:40 am
Xanax and Heroin as noted. Leads to respiratory failure and/or seizures in a rather large number of cases.

Doses don't have to be high, it's all a matter of toxicity in your system, but anything over 1mg Xanax and .025 of Heroin can and does often cause problems. I find that most of the cases I see in the ER are from regular Xanax users who pop 2-4 MG a night and decide to try heroin. On the flip side, I know from first hand experience that .25 MG xanax or klonipin with the same dose of heroin snorted is fine, if not a waste. 
Title: Re: please post the two drugs you should never mix for the newbies and safety
Post by: CannabisCrusader on August 14, 2013, 05:37 am
I generally wouldn't recommend mixing and two downers, two uppers, or an upper and a downer. You may not die, but it's usually much more unhealthy than using just one of the substances.