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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: RollAwayTheDew on August 20, 2012, 04:52 pm

Title: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: RollAwayTheDew on August 20, 2012, 04:52 pm
Hello

PharmerJohn built up a good reputation and then started scamming people for big money.

its been almost a month now - he took over $600 from me and now he is not even man enough to respond to my messages

Here is my original post:

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Something is wrong with PharmerJohn for sure.

DO NOT F.E. (I am learning this the hardway)

I made a special order with him that was for about $600 in subutex pills
I had done business with him before so I agreed to F.E. - even though I never do it, I have a solid transaction history and have done thousands of dollars in transactions so I usually am not asked to.

He was supposed to ship to me 16 days ago
via priority mail, now he wont even return my messages even though you can see he logs onto the S.R. every day.

Something is very wrong here, yes everyone praises PharmerJohn for being so legit, well his actions here are not legit - especially since he will not even take the time to message me and tell me why he has not sent my order yet - I have messaged him several times with no response, I asked S.R. Support what to  do about it and they asked me to post to the forum about it, if you are waiting too long for PharmerJohn to ship, if he wont return your messages and if you are starting to worry that your getting ripped off , please message SRSupport about it, they told me if enough people complain about this they can do something about it.

I am not the only one:

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Re: Anyone receive anything from PharmerJohn recently
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Same shit here on another product. He responds every now and then with lies like I shipped on Monday and weeks go by and nothing.
It's been over 2 months now for me and it was 98 fuckin BTC!

Last time he told me he shipped and when I asked for DCN he ignored me for a few days and then came back and said the DCN doesn't show up. No scan info/log/delivery...nothing.  That's a total lie, blatant as fuck too. He told me a while back that he was trying to raise money for his comeback, so I know for a fact that he's just holding peoples' money hostage to help him get where he needs to, not even giving a fuck about how long people have been waiting on him.  I gave him the money for the product, for express shipping, and an extra on top!! He comes back after disappearing from his vacation and says "you'd feel sorry for me if you saw my bank account", his reason for not being able to provide express shipping which I paid for.  After missing literally 10 or more deadlines, lies and tells me another 3 different times he shipped it.  He's listed product right now....SR should just take all his funds. 98 BTC is over $1300

Now I went back to the feedback I left him and changed it to reflect what is going on now, but it just disappeared completely from his feedback list!
Someone needs to do something about this, He spent some time doing good business and building up good customer feedback, now he is using that good customer feedback to get people to finalize early on big orders and he is using that good feedback to RIP PEOPLE OFF
his number should not be 100 - I want to change my feedback from a 5 to a 1, people - newbies especially be warned not to F.E. with this guy.

He is no long legit, he is a scammer and hes using his prior good feedback as a license to SCAM!

Please SilkRoad Support Do something about this!


Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: lefthandspinner on August 20, 2012, 05:01 pm
ive seen people saying this for ages and was suprised he still had 100

he has done it before and come back but i think hell scam in the end

change your feedback and submit again he will have so many transactions it wont do much and if hes still taking orders it will be 10 pages back

maybe hes only scamming massive amounts he can get to FE and still sending little orders that arnt worth fucking his recent feedback for
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 20, 2012, 10:38 pm
He responded to me today. I think yesterday or the day before his listings disappeared. It may have been him disappearing for 4 days. I had reported him to SR after reading the post from RollAway... They said "Thanks for the heads up. We'll look into it."

Pharmer told me that he was having issues. I won't post about that on here, but I'm not saying I believe it after all the bullshit either.  RollAway, I will PM you.
LeftHand, he has been serving everyone up with these little orders because he can maximize profit and build quick status and using or funds to his advantage as if this shit were
some sort of money market without ANY benefit. He admitted he fucked up in his message, the only true thing I've heard from him thus far.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 22, 2012, 08:12 am
Look on his H product listing page.  Someone else has received and finalized while I'm STILL FUCKING sitting here waiting on my 2 month old order!!
That person who received his product is like the 20th person I've seen receive their goods, placing that order over 2 months after mine too.

I'm sick of the excuses and "shits fucked up man" and "you would feel sorry me" bullshit.  I don't see him complaining when he's making that cash, going on vacations, and getting high for days. He won't even acknowledge that I've asked for my money back.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Moon Fried on August 22, 2012, 08:18 am
This is why I will never FE unless I've had great success with vendors several times.

I always have this fear that my one order will be the one where the vendor will decide to scam and then just act like I'm some crazy guy and continue to vend normally. I'm not surprised if this happens often, as you can see in this thread.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 23, 2012, 02:42 am
He keeps telling me that he has never scammed anyone and that he won't start with me. Yeah maybe he will just start with RollAway and then me.   ::) >:(
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: sara on August 23, 2012, 06:50 am
i was messaging him months ago and i just knew from his replies that he was a scammer, just look at some of his dodgy reviews, i wouldnt touch him with a barge pole
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 23, 2012, 07:38 am
It's bullshit how he is still allowed to "vend" on here.  You have to look at how he treats ALL customers. It should set off alarms when you see how he treats the people that FE or pay directly as you can see what he's trying to get away with when he thinks he is in the "clear". Kind of like you can see a persons true behavior when they think no one is looking.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: kingpinirl on August 23, 2012, 06:10 pm
My experience with him hasn't been the best, but I did end up with my product.  It wasn't shipped when he said it was, but it did get here a few weeks afterward.  That being said, I didn't FE.  I hope everyone gets this resolved - good luck guys.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: lefthandspinner on August 23, 2012, 06:17 pm
he still has 100 rating how if hes scammed u all or u dont want to do 1/5 while u still have a little hope and if he sees u fucked his 100 there wil be no chance of him sending
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 23, 2012, 11:14 pm
Lefthand, I don't know if you've seen all of my posts, but I had paid him directly (I know, spare it) a while ago.
I don't doubt he will deliver unless something happens and he's totally out. I know he will continue to take time
and lie as much as he can.  He's been saying he will be having his sale for a month now....clearly you can see he hasn't thought this through
or really just is that stupid.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: sara on August 24, 2012, 10:37 am
Lefthand, I don't know if you've seen all of my posts, but I had paid him directly (I know, spare it) a while ago.
I don't doubt he will deliver unless something happens and he's totally out. I know he will continue to take time
and lie as much as he can.  He's been saying he will be having his sale for a month now....clearly you can see he hasn't thought this through
or really just is that stupid.

report him to SR at once mate, he isnt allowed to take direct payments from buyers, he is breaking the rules
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 24, 2012, 06:33 pm
Sara I did over a week ago and they said "I'll look into it" and nothing came of it.  He just continued to sell..
His page now says:  8/24 In a bit of a debt hole, and trying to right the ship so I can bring you guys the best service possible. Please bear with me as I figure this stuff out; should have a good bit of money coming my way in the next week, and things will move back into full swing at that point., just stay tuned!

He lied to me and said that a major shipment tied to him was seized and he was all figuring it out. He lies about everything! Then he posted the above.
How is his debt caused by his own stupidity our fault? He has held onto our money for his own gain.  Sara, report your bad experience to support. They need to know about
all of the negative experiences, as he is hiding behind the good, small orders.

EDIT - If any of you receive any updates/messages from SR, PJ, or anyone else involved or in a similar situation with the same people, then update this thread with them please. Thanks.
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 30, 2012, 02:55 am
Well he still hasn't signed on or delivered. I'll come back every day if I have to to let everyone know.
He has had over 2 months to provide me with a little over 7g and in all of this time he hasn't even sent me 0.5g

I noticed that the people that pay through SR and don't finalize, even get their orders for 0.5g. These are orders
even placed a month or more after I paid him!
So, that tells me that he is simply taking advantage of people that either pay directly and have no recourse through SR
or taking advantage of those that finalize early and still have no recourse through SR. It's plain and simple
that he is selling and actually providing product to those who can either give him a rating or report him to SR Customer Service.
He is blatantly doing it, insulting me with his lies, and then coming to me like a cowardice bitch with empty apologies, more lies as to why
he doesn't have any portion of my product. He must be really stupid to try some of the things that he has or have the unbelievable gall to try them.
This guy is more worthless than a piece of dog shit. He's been steadily trying to get with his friends' girl, both of which he  has known for over 10 years.
This guy is an immature loser who can't even vend properly and then goes on random vacations like they are at the top of the to-do list.
He'll come back with some bullshit excuse that will be his attempt to make me feel bad and look like an idiot. It will probably involve someone going to the hospital
or getting "robbed" again.  I will be posting messages soon enough of him asking for direct payments and his lies and all that. SR won't do shit about it and will continue
to let him vend, which brings me to another thing, they know he's scamming because there have been others that have complained and yet they let him continue with his B.S
I don't know if I want to be a part of a community like that....where the main priority is a commission check.  Also, notice negative one karma I have? Guess who gave me that
after feeling the hailstorm from the Heroin Vendors thread? The funny part is he claimed he didn't know who I was and the word he used to describe me, "immature", was the same exact word I used to label him in a message on SR just days earlier. He's not even creative enough to use a different word! ....Freudian slip because it was on his concious too.

He says shit like "just put your package in the mail on Monday" or "gave you a little extra for having to deal with the delay" and then claims
"nobody dropped it off at the post office" or "I don't have enough product for you right now, but I can send you 3g so far, give me your address" and then
of course nothing ever comes of it.  Your words are just foul smelling hot air. Your value is zero to me and hopefully everyone will realize that before even thinking
about ordering from you. YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE THING! Not just 1 or 2 lies here and there, EVERYTHING!
Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on August 31, 2012, 08:56 pm
Nobody's went out that day {in regards to an order he told me would ship on Monday Aug 13th}, shit is so fucked for me man. A large order connected to me got seized {and yet he continued to list more products....more than once}, I'm trying to figure everything out and make sure I'm still safe {he was still selling and hadn't stopped until product ran out...then he listed more!}. I still stand by the fact that I haven't stolen from any of you guys, and I mean to make what I owe up to you as soon as I can. This had happened before, but with a bunch of customers, and I made good with all of them; you will be no different, I promise you on my life. Its just so chaotic man, I'm concerned on a number of levels. But you'll get your stuff (maybe when I get this payment I'm waiting on unrelated to SR, or else collect the money folks owe me on here, use that to re-up, and take care of you with that){I've heard every variety of these statements from him already...I do not believe a single word now that I look at it, it's all been lies}. Fuck its stressful man, and I know how you feel with money out of your hands and whatnot. I;m just sorry for the way it turned out; I'm ultimately responsible and I admit, I fucked up. However, I hope with time I can redeem myself.
-PJ

He won't even give me a refund. He ignores that part of the message always.  I know in the end, when he is done using my money as venture capital, he will start paying attention and try to weasel out of it with apologies and try to offer a refund (bit of a stretch) IF he even has any resemblance to honesty, which he hasn't been AT ALL. He is selfish, and a petty little bitch liar. He served up the customers that will impact his rating, but won't serve up his customer that had already paid, ordered months ago before everyone, and should have priority over everyone elses' orders.  He goes on vacation to get fucked up then comes back to tell me that he cannot afford express shipping that I had paid for and even gave another extra $50 on top. I don't get how you cannot AFFORD something if it has been already paid for. Regardless, he claimed he sent a partial order and somehow the tracking #, which he never gave me, showed nothing at all (no receipt, scan, departure...nothing) and acted like he was going to have to go out of pocket to cover those extra grams  ::) He tells me something is supposed to ship on Monday and then comes back over a week later and simply says "no one went out that day".  SO GET YOUR FUCKING ASS UP AND 'GO OUT' !! It's bullshit, he claims he has employees, which I know he doesn't and has complained that they aren't worth it at all.  He mentions their bad quality work over 4 months ago when explaining his other big mess up and yet he still keeps them? or do you specialize in doing/receiving everything in the shittiest state possible?  PJ conveniently disappears after telling someone he will be shipping on a certain date because it will buy him time, knowing he hasn't sent shit. In the time he is gone and ignoring messages...you will see more listings go up too.  I called him out on it one time and he claimed that they were old orders.  ???  Wow if all of these bold face lies aren't a big enough slap in the face, when or if he comes back, this is somehow going to be my fault for calling him out. I can't wait to read about another outlandish/outrageous story as to what happened and why he doesn't have everyone's stuff.

Title: Re: PharmerJohn is a scammer DO NOT F.E. - Plea for SilkRoad Supprot to Act Now -
Post by: Isoton on November 15, 2012, 08:26 am
So I noticed he was trying to sell again a week or two back. I paid June 8th 2012, it is now November 15th, 2012 and nothing. I had paid him directly.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING IN THE SIX MONTHS FROM HIM AFTER HE TOOK MY MONEY!! Read the two other posts above this one and their respective dates. Also, do a search for "PharmerJohn" in the forum search engine and see what comes up. There are multiple entries that pop up about him. Fuck you PJ for not making it right, cant even man up and respond and still trying to sell without giving people what you owe. You low-life scum! Guess who gave me that -1 karma ?? I'm sure you guys know already.
Read his profile, did he ever have his sale? Did anything in his last few updates even happen? You guessed right! He hasn't had his "sale", he didn't make his debts right, and he hasn't even contacted the people he owes. It's clear he won't do the right thing. You can't believe a word he says. He has done this once before and disappeared and then reappeared again with lies and the nonsense "please give me a opportunity" BS and then he does it again!! I have emails where he trashes other vendors, asks me to hype up his product and telling me to say things on the forums like "it's fire" knowing damn well he hadn't even given me any to have tried.
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