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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: fsgr on June 07, 2012, 07:53 am

Title: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: fsgr on June 07, 2012, 07:53 am
Received package and it had yellow tape on the outside saying it had been opened but nothing removed. On the inside was a pamphlet say it had been opened by Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service because a item of concern was detected by AQIS screening process which uses detector dogs and xray.

Found other reports of same thing.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=14812.msg164465#msg164465

I am thinking these guys are looking more plant and animal material that could carry disease more than drugs.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: LeisureLass on June 07, 2012, 08:01 am
So your gear was still in there?
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: fsgr on June 07, 2012, 08:05 am
So your gear was still in there?

Yep
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: fsgr on June 07, 2012, 09:41 am
Probably overkill, but if you want to know if your house is flagged get a friend or pay a vendor in a non-flagged country to send a regular letter with a baggie of flour or something in it, see if it gets inspected.

Thanks for the idea.

Still trying to get my mind around it.
- If they knew the package was drugs, they would have siezed them.
- If they were leaving them in there on purpose, they wouldn't alert me to the fact they were on to me by putting a pamphlet in and telling me they opened the package.



Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: Gibbroni on June 07, 2012, 09:56 am
Just wondering, which country was this order from? We talking package or letter that was opened?
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: Soprano on June 07, 2012, 10:06 am
Probably overkill, but if you want to know if your house is flagged get a friend or pay a vendor in a non-flagged country to send a regular letter with a baggie of flour or something in it, see if it gets inspected.

Thanks for the idea.

Still trying to get my mind around it.
- If they knew the package was drugs, they would have siezed them.
- If they were leaving them in there on purpose, they wouldn't alert me to the fact they were on to me by putting a pamphlet in and telling me they opened the package.


I'm assuming this is a package sent from NL?

They can only inspect the package so far before they need a warrant, this is too time consuming. So unless there is strong evidence to suggest there is illicit drugs concealed inside they will seal it back up.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: fsgr on June 07, 2012, 10:24 am
Probably overkill, but if you want to know if your house is flagged get a friend or pay a vendor in a non-flagged country to send a regular letter with a baggie of flour or something in it, see if it gets inspected.

Thanks for the idea.

Still trying to get my mind around it.
- If they knew the package was drugs, they would have siezed them.
- If they were leaving them in there on purpose, they wouldn't alert me to the fact they were on to me by putting a pamphlet in and telling me they opened the package.


I'm assuming this is a package sent from NL?

They can only inspect the package so far before they need a warrant, this is too time consuming. So unless there is strong evidence to suggest there is illicit drugs concealed inside they will seal it back up.

That was what I was assuming, I am just wondering if they would flag from this? If they did, thier list of flagged addresses is going to have lot of innocents on it and become useless to them.

I wonder what they monitor the most, address or names or both?

Country in question was not NL. (dunno if I should name it or not)
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: Soprano on June 07, 2012, 10:30 am
I can tell you this has happened to me more than once, I still was able to receive packages, but decided to take precaution and change address. It's just not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: dr octagon on June 07, 2012, 10:45 am
This is really common and generally nothing to worry about. If the stuff was small and well packaged they probably didn't see it.

AQIS is looking for quarantine risks - fruit/veg/flora/fauna/wood/dirt/herbs etc.

No,  Australian Customs and AQIS do not need a warrant to search - open - and or destroy anything sent into Australia.

OP just make sure your house is clean if you are worried. Don't lose any sleep...



Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: fsgr on June 07, 2012, 10:53 am

Cheers Soprano and dr octagon, helps me put it in to perspective.

I found this quote from Executive Director of AQIS (from 2004)
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More than 2,000 AQIS staff inspect 100 per cent of international mail, air and sea containers and shipping, while screening more than 90 per cent of passengers and their luggage arriving at airports.

I am surprised they do 100% of international mail, but could mean walking a dog past 10,000 pieces of mail.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: PaintingGalves on June 07, 2012, 11:18 am
Those figures are complete bullshit propaganda.

The annual post mail into the country is around five billion of which 35% or so is checked. Less than 10% of air cargo consignment is checked and a percentage between those two for sea container cargo.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on June 07, 2012, 03:44 pm
Those figures are complete bullshit propaganda.

The annual post mail into the country is around five billion of which 35% or so is checked. Less than 10% of air cargo consignment is checked and a percentage between those two for sea container cargo.

Interesting fact! Inside information?

Matrix  8)
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: fsgr on June 09, 2012, 05:16 am
Anyways, to err on the side of caution,I have cleaned house and have moved all international orders on to another name and address.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: PaintingGalves on June 09, 2012, 08:32 am
Those figures are complete bullshit propaganda.

The annual post mail into the country is around five billion of which 35% or so is checked. Less than 10% of air cargo consignment is checked and a percentage between those two for sea container cargo.

Interesting fact! Inside information?

Matrix  8)

Was published as the closing paragraph in a report from one of the Aussie based newspapers from a few weeks back I think. The entire time I read the article I was thinking about what the quarantine and border control statistics might really be and there it was, closing paragraph - I literally loled -then did a database search on the postal claim and it seems to be legit. I've heard the figure for air cargo repeated around that low mark from a few different places too and sea cargo logistically it would be just impossible to check all.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: breathe on June 10, 2012, 03:17 am
I've heard that a very small percentage of sea cargo gets checked at all. From my reading of various news reports it seems that most who get busted for importing large quantities of drugs were already under observation/investigation and that's why they got caught.

I also had a look at a report on 2011 mail drug seizures for Australia, and there was something in the region of 100 for the entire year (MDMA) and almost all were sea freight.
Title: Re: Australia "Opened for Inspection"
Post by: ozzybattla on June 10, 2012, 05:54 am
Anyways, to err on the side of caution,I have cleaned house and have moved all international orders on to another name and address.

Good idea. You can not be too paranoid about stuff like this, although I'd say it's unlikely they'd have found anything if they didn't confiscate/do a controlled delivery. Unless it was 80kg of H in tomato cans... ;)