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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: TheSilentGiant on November 27, 2011, 04:27 pm

Title: Adderall
Post by: TheSilentGiant on November 27, 2011, 04:27 pm
Well I am a veteran seller, been here since July under a different name. But I wanted to get something across to potential buyers, and sellers. We need a fixed price system.

These Adderall prices have been jumping in and out of the loop since the beginning, and we need a system of measurement (preferably by mg count) that will help people decipher whether or not the certain pill is being sold at ridiculous prices or at normal ones. What do you say?

I have heard from some that they would pay $0.50 per MG, and others who wouldn't even consider paying more than $5... But in any case, this needs some attention. And my prices are substantially negotiable, but I do want to make something out of these XRs.

On another note, I would like to introduce myself; my name is TheSilentGiant and I deal with amphetamines. In regards to my merchandise, I have 15x - 30mg XR capsules left, and was wondering if the market would be interested in me switching from XRs to IRs.
I might just go for the 60x - 30mg IRs in the next week, so if anyone is interested, let me know asap.

That's is all I guess, thanks again, please buy with confidence.
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: experimental333 on November 27, 2011, 05:16 pm
i am interested if you can ship to the eu
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: Sobchak on November 27, 2011, 07:06 pm
Looks like Adderall prices have rising due to shortages and whatnot. Just a year ago, I was able to to get 30mg XR's for a guy I knew nearby for $5, but I haven't been able to get my hands on some since. When I first got on SR about a month ago, that's the first thing I looked for and was surprised to see them listed at ~$15 or $0.50/mg as you said. Another thing I noticed is that most of them aren't selling, which leads me to believe people really aren't willing to pay that much for them. Realistically, I would hope to pay ~$0.20-0.25/mg at the most. Checking pharmacy prices, it seems to be selling at ~$0.15-0.30/mg, so something's gotta give.

This is also the reason I've been looking to pick up Vyvanse instead as a cheaper alternative. I think it should be around $0.10/mg but I find the few listings that are on SR to be overpriced too. Pharmacy prices are $0.07-0.09.

If you can get your hands on any of these for a decent price, I'd be interested.
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: TheSilentGiant on November 27, 2011, 07:29 pm
You see, I wouldn't mind selling these at those designated prices. Problem is; shortages, price hikes, and limited availability.

I wish I could sell them at $10 a cap, but realistically no one I've seen so far could do that because of the amount available, and the amount reasonably owned is low.

To put it into better terms: The amount a person can actually acquire is very low, (Nov 2011). Whereas the amount of weed or illegal narcotics is not controlled. In the past I have sold these at $12 per cap, which is reasonable when you consider you are getting 30MG of amphetamines. So if you compare that to the tablets, these are better for the price.

When you compare a 30mg XR to a 30mg IR, the actuality is 28mg XR to 24-25mg IR. The reason why I would tend to stay away from IRs is because they are inundated with fillers which take up a good percentage of the tablet, although 24-25mg might be the extreme, you NEVER really get 30mg IR. As for the 30mg XR, if broken the balls could be consumed right away at once. If you take the capsule as is, then you only get 15mg at once, and a continuous 15mg throughout the day (6-7 hours average) which would be perfect for college students who are studying for longer hours.

In the end, its up to the market. In SR we have a marijuana regime (where multiple vendors are selling weed), a cocaine regime, etc. But never have I seen an amphetamine regime (lol) - because of the prices.

I would like to sell them at the minimum $0.40 per cap, and anything lower is pretty much bullshit unless it's in RL. I know many college students who purchase these at $20 a cap, during the November - December months for exams. And this is where "vendors" like me need to flourish and make some starting funds, otherwise I'd just disappear like the rest of the ADDY vendors in the past.

As far as consistency goes (as you define), I can only maximize up to 90x per month (legally), or 180x (which I had going for me once in 2009) illegally. I would really like to start a business here on SR, but which messed up prices and economy (as well BARR/TEVA), I am struggling as a new seller. If this continues, we will be subjected to failed startup vendors, and lose out on good merchandise.

Sorry for the rant, but this needed to be said.
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: golad on November 27, 2011, 07:50 pm
TSG, do you mean .40/mg a cap?

Anyway, I've got a scrip for focalin xr 20mg as well as a limited amount of concerta er 36mg and some generic 10s.  It seems like more than any other drug, there isn't really a consensus on how much it should cost. Don't want to jump into seller acct without knowing the market

but yeah, i'd probably sell for 6-8 baseline.  does that seem wholly unreasonable to SR buyers?
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: Sobchak on November 27, 2011, 09:05 pm
I understand what your saying and even at your price points, I believe you'll be successful on SR since it's still more competitive than other sellers. I was just stating my opinions/frustrations from a buyer's point of view. I'm all for there being more vendors on SR and the emergence of an amphetamines regime, so best of luck. :)
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: TheSilentGiant on November 27, 2011, 09:32 pm
golad: I mean $0.40 per mg in a 30mg capsule: 0.40 * 30 = $12. 

Sobchak: I know what you mean. SWIM is also a buyer, and sees the ridiculous prices on the market. But when I take on the "business" version of myself, I can't do anything about it.

And I do hope I am successful in my venture, but seeing how people are just not interested or won't accept these prices, I am trapped. But in all actuality I just need a few buyers that will clean me out every month. If I had 3 people buying 10 capsules from me, I'd be happy with that alone.

Let's see what happens in the upcoming days, either my venture will be worth the effort, or I will miserably fail. And to reiterate, something needs to be done, and something needs to be said.
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: TheSilentGiant on November 28, 2011, 02:39 am
In the United States lots of people say their is a shortage however that I have a hard time believing that. Many college students still get their prescriptions and it is very easy to get it filled at a nearby pharmacy. In my opinion the reason OP's (if any) still stock and ship at unusually high prices is because amphetamine is a schedule 1 on the DEA list, plus shipping controlled substances adds even more charges to the list. It's 15 to 30 years in federal prison. I was charging $13 per pill and customers gladly paid. Still I have customers asking when will I get more and I do not reply because to me it's not worth it. By the way - same thing with ritalin methylphenidate

Well let me ask you a couple of questions:

1. Are you/those students in the Northeast Region? (Maine down to Delaware/Maryland)
2. Are those college students paying out of pocket or with insurance?


Reason I ask is because, the shortage has been mainly affecting the NE region of America, and several other areas, and the shortages have been intermittent. And I would like to make clear that the shortage term being used over and over is only true in some (mainly populated) areas, city-like areas to be specific.

Also, pharmacies do have this stuff laying around in their inventory, don't get me wrong. But I know for a fact that many major pharmacies, including some GNP, who keep a reserve of the pills they get in case of a price hike. Back in September (if memory serves me right), the FDA announced a shortage in the amphetamine markets, and in the following weeks prices for ADDY skyrocketed, making these pharms who still had stashes, richer.

But thats not all; Barr/TEVA have been found to hording some major ingredients used in the production of the tablets and capsules, and due to this hording many areas have been affected. But even with the horded material back in the market, something is still awry. Why is there still a "shortage?" Well, blame the pharmacies who take advantage of the fact Barr/TEVA are only allowed to produce a certain number of amphetamines (Schedule 1 Drug).

The shortage is there, and it's real. Plus if these college students are paying for these pills on insurance     (I am sure more than 85% are), it's not likely they would really know how much these pills cost to those out-of-pocket, or the scarcity.



 
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: MerryMen on November 28, 2011, 05:07 am
The shortage is real, I rarely see Adderall in the local markets. occasionally I'll find someone who has them for personal use who will sell 1-2.
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: tiger on November 28, 2011, 06:46 am
The shortage is real, I rarely see Adderall in the local markets. occasionally I'll find someone who has them for personal use who will sell 1-2.


true to that.
ADHD is a real bi*ch to deal with for some of us.

and to let you in on a little secret, the only reason I get 120 pieces a month is because I pay for them with store credit from return I make at the time of checkout. Even then, I pay almost $3 for each of them after paying doctor dope his "tax" for extra pieces.
Title: Re: Adderall
Post by: TheSilentGiant on November 28, 2011, 12:52 pm
ADHD is a real bitch...

You know, making this thread was semi-pointless, I have not even attracted one single customer, maybe a price cut is needed...sighs.

*Just took a look at the "competition, and Jesus Christ! - I have the lowest prices on each Adderall 30mg XR!! Still no customers, but I will hang in there.*