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Title: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 07, 2011, 11:57 pm
I set up a deal with schizofreen for over 200 dollars worth of product.
He promised an 100% refund if this product did not come through.
(i look on his account and on the forums and see that he has given others refunds in the pasts, so i feel that it's safe to trust this man)
i wait a long time even giving him an extra week when he offered to refund me immediately (giving him the benefit of the doubt
and hoping perhaps the mail was just delayed).

 Nothing came through, so i contacted him for asking for a refund.
He said he would refund me and just to be patient
because he only had about 80 dollars on him and it wouldn't be enough.

So i wait.... and wait.... and wait..
I notice he has a few sales and that he's refunding other people..

I contact him again.. saying "how come you refunded those people not me? you must have the money now right?"
he says that "Those refunds were in escrow and resolution center"
fair enough.....

so i wait....and wait...and wait...
I go on his account and notice he has even more finished orders so i contact him again!
"That must of been enough to be able to refund me right?

"5 of 5 as described... thanks item 8 hours
5 of 5 Good packaging,kept in good contact,great product,schizo is a go to guy item 19 hours
5 of 5 2nd large order. Came through perfectly item 1 day
5 of 5 Quick and great product as ALWAYS!! item 1 day
5 of 5 Took a little while to ship. Will update once package comes in, here's to good luck! item 2 days
5 of 5 fast service, good quality package ! item 3 days"

If delays continue I'll be forced to lower my 5/5 rating i gave you."

Silkroad shows that he read my message but didn't reply.
(so i wait 2 days)
still no reply..

"I have now changed my rating of 5/5 to 1/5.
i will change this back when i have been given the full 100% refund as promised.
i have waited long enough and i'm sure you have the money by now.

We had a deal man."
and still no reply....

I know some people have had a good experience with schizofreen in the past but this has
been a huge hassle and now i'm wondering if i'm even going to get my money back..
i'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he's not going to contact me again until he has the money ready
but this has been way too long and the only other place i can think of to go is the forums.

Schizofreen even admits my package and many others didn't come through on his main page
"Update 10-16-2011: Things got hectic in life so I was unavailable for 11 days. I just finished answering every message / orderstatus on SR. Also USA customs made it very hard for me last week, seizing almost 30 percent of my orders. I changed my packaging style suited for future transactions and I expect me being up and running again as of today. Thank you for your understanding."

So he admits my package didn't come through
and he promised me an 100% refund for it.
yet it's been about 1 month and 2 weeks now... and still nothing :(
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: greatergood on November 08, 2011, 04:24 am
hes sketchy as hell i wish people would stop buying from him. i still havent received my reshipment.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 08, 2011, 04:35 am
This is pretty unfair.. i have multiple messages from him where he PROMISED an 100% refund. and now he's just ignoring me..
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: rusty on November 08, 2011, 06:13 am
I extended my escrow an additional 18 days with Schizofreen and he remailed and all arrived well.

Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 08, 2011, 06:26 am
I extended my escrow an additional 18 days with Schizofreen and he remailed and all arrived well.

it's been almost 2 months for me.. i think i can safely say my package won't be coming through :/.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on November 08, 2011, 07:17 am
Shit, that's unfortunate, I'm sorry for you.. :/

Yeah I wouldn't buy from him again, my order did not take nearly as long to fall through as yours did, but I had a similar experience.
He takes FOREVER to respond to ANYTHING, I'm just glad I went within escrow. I don't know for sure, but I wonder if he often just doesn't ship orders and says they were seized, because I never recieved ANYTHING, no letter, no nothing. I sent him a message, and his response seemed to me like he meant he didn't send it. He said something like "yeah, it's not coming." though I don't remember the exact words, it was something to that effect that made me wonder.

I got a 50% refund and in his message he acted like he was doing me a favor, which sort of pissed me off. I think i gave him a 4/5 but I don't remember.

I sincerely hope you get your money back, it's fucking ridiculous for someone to rip so many people off like this and continue to sell things.

ANYONE THINKING ABOUT BUYING FROM SCHIZOFREEN:
Don't.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: Ineluctable on November 08, 2011, 07:40 am
My first order a few months ago with schizofreen went fine. I ordered from him again a month or two ago, and I ran into the same problem. The first shipment never arrived, shizo offered a reship.

As you might guess, the second shipment never arrived. It wasn't a big enough order to bother pursuing further...but it was a bit disappointing. :(
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on November 08, 2011, 08:14 am
It wasn't a big enough order to bother pursuing further...but it was a bit disappointing. :(

I don't think any order is too small not to care about, even if it was just 1 pill, he should have fucking sent it.. I think the big problem was/is his shipping method though, I've heard from people who actually have received orders from him saying his packaging was sub-par, and they could see why many were seized.
But it's not like he didn't know his packages weren't making it, he should have fixed that shit.

Anyway, I apologize to the OP for the excessive amount of ranting I've done in your thread, I'm zipping it now! :x <3!
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 08, 2011, 08:28 pm
It wasn't a big enough order to bother pursuing further...but it was a bit disappointing. :(

I don't think any order is too small not to care about, even if it was just 1 pill, he should have fucking sent it.. I think the big problem was/is his shipping method though, I've heard from people who actually have received orders from him saying his packaging was sub-par, and they could see why many were seized.
But it's not like he didn't know his packages weren't making it, he should have fixed that shit.

Anyway, I apologize to the OP for the excessive amount of ranting I've done in your thread, I'm zipping it now! :x <3!

Nah it's all good man, it's cool that other people are coming forward and voicing their experiences with this guy..
I'm pretty pissed off that i have in words that he would give me a 100% refund yet when contacting Silk Road
they choose to do nothing.. I thought nomad (mod) said stuff was going to change around here :/..

It just seems silly when i have evidence he was going to refund me that i can't get silk road to step in and get my refund.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 08, 2011, 08:34 pm
wtf this pisses me off so much.. i look on his silkroad page and

"5 of 5   Package did not arrive. seller offered a refund that we agreed on. I believe the seller gave it his best effort and we just got some bad luck.   item   1 day"
"5 of 5 Seller is definitely legitimate, but package wasn't received due to shipping issues. Was granted a 100% refund and will do business again."
"   Lost package...re-ordered with the 50% refund...keep my fingers crossed."

how come he refunds all these people but not me :/
UGHGHGHGHHG
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on November 08, 2011, 08:41 pm

It just seems silly when i have evidence he was going to refund me that i can't get silk road to step in and get my refund.


When you go out of escrow, there's not much they can do about it, unfortunately. :( There's nothing that can be done legally, so the only protection we have is escrow..

That's bullshit that he's refunding other peoples orders. The only reason he is even doing it is because he will get in trouble by Silk Road if he doesn't refund the escrow orders. But if you think about it, (let's pretend he doesn't actually ship any of the orders placed) if he's only refunding 50% or even if he refunds 90%, he is still making free money. I have no evidence that he doesn't ship, and I don't claim to know anything about him or his shipping methods, but it seems like a pretty easy way to make money to me..
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 10, 2011, 04:45 am
Hmmm I have some bitcoins leftover. I would try again from Dutchqualitybeans but he never gave me the refund he said he would. Oh well his loss.

I see schizofreen has gone down hill a bit lately. Hmmm debating on whether or not to purchase from him.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on November 10, 2011, 06:08 am
Hmmm I have some bitcoins leftover. I would try again from Dutchqualitybeans but he never gave me the refund he said he would. Oh well his loss.

I see schizofreen has gone down hill a bit lately. Hmmm debating on whether or not to purchase from him.

If you're in the USA, I wouldn't bother.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 10, 2011, 06:45 am
Hmmm I have some bitcoins leftover. I would try again from Dutchqualitybeans but he never gave me the refund he said he would. Oh well his loss.

I see schizofreen has gone down hill a bit lately. Hmmm debating on whether or not to purchase from him.

If you're in the USA, I wouldn't bother.

That's what I'm leaning on. I'm thinking of waiting and seeing if this guy is legit or not http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5253.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: tonic on November 11, 2011, 02:46 pm
Having a similar issue with schizofreen. Ordered a couple of pills about 20 days ago. Never received. A while back, I extended out the transaction in the resolution center by a week. Schizofreen responded quickly and accepted. Now, 5 days later, still nothing in my mailbox. Trying to get refund, but schizofreen refuses to respond, even though he has been online daily.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 11, 2011, 09:32 pm
Damn that sucks. there are hardly any vendors selling pills right now.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: greatergood on November 12, 2011, 05:11 am
i sent him another message about him ignoring refund requests. if he doesn't respond i'd advise any new buyers to avoid buying from him.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 12, 2011, 05:40 am
Holding off on my order until I get some updates then.


Man is it really that hard to get some pills?
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on November 12, 2011, 06:19 am
Holding off on my order until I get some updates then.


Man is it really that hard to get some pills?

Yes. :'(
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: seakong on November 12, 2011, 05:42 pm
Schizo is a good guy with some seriously bad luck

I had placed a medium sized order and it never made it; he refunded me 50% just today.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: tonic on November 12, 2011, 06:38 pm
Got 100% refund yesterday.

I'd advise US buyers to avoid buying pills from the NL, seems like all sellers shipments are getting seized at this point. Molly seems like the way to go.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 12, 2011, 10:13 pm
I think I will be holding off on purchases until christmas time when customs are swamped, or wait for canadian/US vendors to get pills in
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: insomniac on November 13, 2011, 12:50 am
I've had a very similar experience as all of the above posters. Schizo was my first order about a month ago. He seemed very legit and had few bad feedbacks. I ordered from him the same time he went offline for "things in real life." About 2 weeks later we tried a reship attempt, still nothing. Even after he promised to improve his packaging.

I was still thinking of ordering from another NL seller, but would a package of molly actually be easier to get thru customs than pills?
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 13, 2011, 01:36 am
From what I have read insomniac yes. It is because pills are bulky and I guess molly isn't sent bubble wrapped? So it is less suspicious.

There are some US sellers supposedly getting pills, one (seakong) claims he is getting the qdance pills in. Dopeboy in canada is getting molly in stock in a few weeks. canada is supposedly easier in the customs department.

Also paperchasing says he is getting shipments of molly in from 2 different european sellers. Wait for any of those? Or order during christmas time where hopefully more stuff gets by.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: fidocscentral on November 13, 2011, 01:47 am
monkeyseeanddo has Blue Dolphins right now listed, might want to check him out possible. US.

http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/10697
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 13, 2011, 02:25 am
monkeyseeanddo has Blue Dolphins right now listed, might want to check him out possible. US.

http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/10697

Checked pillreports. there are no good reports for blue dolphins recently. Why would anyone still use that press. No thank you to a possibly shitty pill and a new vendor who is not active in the forum.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: fidocscentral on November 13, 2011, 02:43 am
This is true, last blue dolphin press I had was absolutely horrible and led to buying my test kit  8)
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: greatergood on November 13, 2011, 10:55 am
just got my refund today
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: drganja on November 17, 2011, 03:51 am
my first order with schizofreen was absolutely perfect! i got my pill to the nw USA in 1 week. they were the best quality ever!~ 23 days ago i placed another order with him and  i messaged him day 16 when the order was about to auto finalize, i was instructed to extend the date in the resolution center and he said that "some orders have taken up to 3 weeks"  it has now been 23 days and no pills. but i must say, schizofreen has had awesome communication thus far and still hasnt given me a reason to give him any less than a 5/5 even if they dont arrive, shit happens. but if they do not arrive i would definitly like a refund, ill let you guys know how it goes.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 17, 2011, 04:39 am
my first order with schizofreen was absolutely perfect! i got my pill to the nw USA in 1 week. they were the best quality ever!~ 23 days ago i placed another order with him and  i messaged him day 16 when the order was about to auto finalize, i was instructed to extend the date in the resolution center and he said that "some orders have taken up to 3 weeks"  it has now been 23 days and no pills. but i must say, schizofreen has had awesome communication thus far and still hasnt given me a reason to give him any less than a 5/5 even if they dont arrive, shit happens. but if they do not arrive i would definitly like a refund, ill let you guys know how it goes.

Keep us updated mate.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 21, 2011, 04:59 pm
still no refund for me :/ this sucks.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 21, 2011, 10:50 pm
I would say hold tight. I just ordered from him we will see how it goes.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: simple_simon on November 25, 2011, 05:00 pm
I had a similar experience with Schizofreen.  To his credit I did receive an initial very small order from him to sample his product which I enjoyed.  But the second larger order I placed never arrived.  He was very responsive to messages I sent him and offered me a refund which I declined in lieu of getting a reship.  The second order never arrived.  I then started reading a lot of complaints from other people saying they never received their orders.  I messaged him again and he said that he ran into issues with customs seizing his packages but he had changed his method and was having a lot of success.  He offered to reship a 3rd time which I accepted and this time I used a different mailing address.  Well it's been about a month and still nothing.  I am questioning if he ever reshipped the 2nd or 3rd time.  Of course I have no proof but I can tell you I will never order from him again.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 25, 2011, 11:34 pm
I had a similar experience with Schizofreen.  To his credit I did receive an initial very small order from him to sample his product which I enjoyed.  But the second larger order I placed never arrived.  He was very responsive to messages I sent him and offered me a refund which I declined in lieu of getting a reship.  The second order never arrived.  I then started reading a lot of complaints from other people saying they never received their orders.  I messaged him again and he said that he ran into issues with customs seizing his packages but he had changed his method and was having a lot of success.  He offered to reship a 3rd time which I accepted and this time I used a different mailing address.  Well it's been about a month and still nothing.  I am questioning if he ever reshipped the 2nd or 3rd time.  Of course I have no proof but I can tell you I will never order from him again.

Sorry to hear that. I have 2 speakers going to two different addresses. We will see how it goes.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on November 30, 2011, 11:02 pm
Schizofreen's powerbutton arrived. I have another coming to a different address.

I am satisfied though good job schizofreen.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: supernova9 on December 01, 2011, 02:07 am
Schizofreen's powerbutton arrived. I have another coming to a different address.

I am satisfied though good job schizofreen.

sweet, I placed an order a day or two back.  For now on I place small orders first.  Tired of getting screwed.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: Merman5771 on December 01, 2011, 02:14 am
I also never recieved a small order from him. Two months ago I ordered and after 4 weeks he offered a 50% refund and reship. I accepted offer but now a month later still nothing, no customs letter, nothing. Very unsatisfied.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: mito on December 01, 2011, 02:23 am
... he said that he ran into issues with customs seizing his packages ...

How would someone know that a package was seized  by customs?
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: Parasomnia on December 19, 2011, 03:54 am
I had a similar experience with Schizofreen.  To his credit I did receive an initial very small order from him to sample his product which I enjoyed.  But the second larger order I placed never arrived.  He was very responsive to messages I sent him and offered me a refund which I declined in lieu of getting a reship.  The second order never arrived.  I then started reading a lot of complaints from other people saying they never received their orders.  I messaged him again and he said that he ran into issues with customs seizing his packages but he had changed his method and was having a lot of success.  He offered to reship a 3rd time which I accepted and this time I used a different mailing address.  Well it's been about a month and still nothing.  I am questioning if he ever reshipped the 2nd or 3rd time.  Of course I have no proof but I can tell you I will never order from him again.

exact same thing happened to me. i ordered a couple and they arrived fine, i ordered a larger shipment and they never arrived. i also made the stupid mistake of trusting him and releasing the funds straight away. i mailed him and although i will give him the benefit of the doubt
he said that mine was probably one of the ones the ones that didn't make it and that shit happens.

ah il give him a few more days to see if they turn up
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: gumby on January 02, 2012, 10:22 am
1/2 orders from schizofreen arrived. It was one pill I do not really care about the refund oh well.
Title: Re: Schizofreen ignoring refund request?
Post by: Merman5771 on March 15, 2012, 03:26 am
Just wanted to say I made another order with schizofreen and it arrived very quickly.