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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Chipsahoy on August 23, 2012, 04:24 pm

Title: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: Chipsahoy on August 23, 2012, 04:24 pm
I'm making this post because I am genuinely concerned for what is being sold here on Silk Road. I have done quite a bit of research into DMT, and extraction methods; and I feel that it is important to inform everyone of the dangers of product no properly extracted... I do not see ANY of the current DMT vendors giving any information on their extraction methods. DMT in pure form is not dangerous, if traces of naphtha, or sodium hydroxide remain in the extract it can cause serious health issues. I would like vendors to be more open, and honest about the extraction method they used to bring us DMT. This should not be an issue as there are many step by step resources for DMT extraction, it's not like there is any sort of trade secret involved.

 Buyers be cautious when purchasing DMT, you have no way of knowing if there were corners cut in the extraction process leaving unwanted potentially fatal chemicals in the product that can do permanent damage to your health.

TLDR: PLEASE VENDORS, LET US KNOW HOW OUR PRODUCT IS MADE FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
Title: Re: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: US245 on August 23, 2012, 05:54 pm
Do you know of any way to test for these impurities our self?
Title: Re: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: john_snow_da_bastard on August 23, 2012, 06:09 pm
I really hate to be the one to break this to you OP, but impurities and shitty workups are not unique to DMT. When it comes to illicit black market drugs, this is an unfortunate norm rather than exception. Fortunately SR seems to minimize this with its buyer feedback and vendor statistic system.

If one sticks with trusted vendors and does their research they should be ok.

You aren't the "no pool cleaners!"  dmt guy are you?
Title: Re: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: Chipsahoy on August 23, 2012, 10:00 pm
@US245 There isn't really a known way to test for impurities, but you can always rewash the DMT to remove said impurities. There's plenty of guides on DMTnexus on the clearweb.

@John Because said impurities are very difficult to spot, and notice when consuming the product even DMT from a "trusted vendor" could be causing significant harm to someone's health. Other drugs typically you will notice a difference in the actual effects of the drug, or these impurities can be tested for. With DMT this is not the case, you will still have the same trip, it will still look and smell the same, it will just cause irreparable to your lungs.  I mean we are literally talking smoking paint thinner (naphtha), and drain cleaner ( Sodium Hydroxide). These impurities are easy to clean out of the DMT, if the vendor decides to go on the side of caution instead of time and bulk.

Nope, no connection at all. I would never purchase from that guy personally. Typically pool cleaners aren't used in DMT anyways...
Title: Re: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: hurrrr on August 23, 2012, 10:16 pm
Do you know of any way to test for these impurities our self?

If you crush it up and spread it out on a plate and leave it over night the naphta should go away. As for the sodium hydroxide, DMT has a natural pH of 8.68 so buy some universal indicator paper since it tells you the exact pH and not just if it's acidic/basic) and test it out. If it goes way above this value you should probably wash it first.
Title: Re: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: modest mouse on August 23, 2012, 11:37 pm
a person has to be pretty freakin incompetent to manage to fuck up a simple A/B extraction. first, naptha is volatile and will evaporate before ever reaching the buyer, if not it would absolutely reek of solvent still... not to mention melting plastic and bursting into flames when smoked. as for lye, one could accidentally pull a small bit of the aqueous layer - however most of these are freebase so are meant to smoked. you could either wash with an aqueous solution to be sure but if smoking its not necessary - the vap temp of dmt is very low and the melting temp (not even vaporization temp) for sodium hydroxide is thousands of degrees... no way one will ingest the lye while smoking

as for the pool cleaners you really dont know what you are talking about... pool chemicals are actually very frequently used in extractions. however there is no inherent danger of using something label a pool cleaner known as muriatic acid - all it is a hydrochloric acid solution used for the initial pulling of the salt into the aqueous solution... then lye which is a drain cleaner is used for basification to pull into the non polar layer.  just because people freak out when they hear pool cleaner or drain cleaner they are just ignorant of chemistry
Title: Re: *WARNING* DMT Vendors and Extraction Methods
Post by: microRNA on August 25, 2012, 08:50 pm
everyone should just do the extraction themselves if they really want that connection with the product. then you are absolutely sure there are no adulterants in the substance your risking your health to ingest (i think op is a little paranoid, but has a decent point)

theres something special about having the knowledge and putting forth the effort to see the process through from natural state in the plant form to a concentrated chemical form, which you then experience in a different way especially when its a psychedelic. real connection to the universe