Silk Road forums
Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Horizons on April 30, 2012, 01:45 pm
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On average, posts around here seem to be getting more hostile lately. I'd like to suggest that everyone chill the fuck out and start wearing a big smile. Where's all the love gone?
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Haven't you figured it out yet? We're all cops. We all have been murdered and replaced by cops.
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The Tony scam(?) has put everyone on edge. A lot of people are pissed right now and it's showing in the forum. It will go away after a little while, but this is a really hard thing to swallow.
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The Tony scam(?) has put everyone on edge. A lot of people are pissed right now and it's showing in the forum. It will go away after a little while, but this is a really hard thing to swallow.
this
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Haven't you figured it out yet? We're all cops. We all have been murdered and replaced by cops.
Who accused you of being a cop?
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It'll get worse. This is what extremely powerful drugs do to people that can't use em responsibly. Just what me thinks.
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Haven't you figured it out yet? We're all cops. We all have been murdered and replaced by cops.
Who accused you of being a cop?
No-one. Yet? Just having some fun!
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It'll get worse. This is what extremely powerful drugs do to people that can't use em responsibly. Just what me thinks.
This
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Yeah, bad vibes indeed. Not helped by the RC busts, TFM, speculation about certain vendors.
I can't help but feel that user's attitudes to using SilkRoad have changed over the past couple of months and this has crept into the forums. When I joined 12 months ago, the majority of users seemed to exercise a healthy balance of personal security and common sense. This seems to have morphed into an admix of naivety and paranoia. For example a large number of users are happy to give their name and address to any new vendor touting samples, or use clearly shady vendors for the bulk of their purchases. At the same time, any legitimate complaints or concerns (poor packaging, bad vendor behavior, reports of buyers being raided) are brushed off as lies, LE, jealous competition etc. It seems much harder to determine who's legitimate, and even harder to raise any concerns without getting shot down by a hoard of posters who don't seem to have any reason to be so hostile . Not sure where I'm going with all this, smoking bud this early in the afternoon has got me in rambling mode :D
Spend the rest of the week posting positive things, we may as well make this community a nice place to be while is lasts ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ip96WSwyM
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in the wake of the tony scandal dark days lie ahead
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Honestly, I too am getting bad vibes. This has always been a temporary thing for me. I may decide now is the time. Going to think on it for a week or two. Of course, Ill settle all pending business first, but I honestly think things will get worse.
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Only dark days for people who were actually affected by it. Requiring FE is shady as fuck, this isn't the first time it happened and it won't be the last, some people just never learn until it happens to them. And if you FE and plan on sticking around here for a while, it will happen to you.
If tony did indeed scam all of those people, they should be more angry with themselves. This community as a whole would be a much happier, better place if buyers stopped putting up with the finalize early crap. The scams would stop and the anger would go with it. This site is nothing short of a godsend, and what I would call one of the greatest innovations of the last 2 decades. If people would stop being so naive the scammers would have nothing to work with, and this place would flourish beyond what anyone could imagine.
It sucks that so many people lost money on this and had their trust betrayed, but people go to prison, have their lives completely ruined and are even killed over this shit. If there is one aspect of your lives you should exercise some damn caution about it is the business you conduct on here. The community as a whole will be made better for it.
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Yeah, bad vibes indeed. Not helped by the RC busts, TFM, speculation about certain vendors.
I can't help but feel that user's attitudes to using SilkRoad have changed over the past couple of months and this has crept into the forums. When I joined 12 months ago, the majority of users seemed to exercise a healthy balance of personal security and common sense. This seems to have morphed into an admix of naivety and paranoia. For example a large number of users are happy to give their name and address to any new vendor touting samples, or use clearly shady vendors for the bulk of their purchases. At the same time, any legitimate complaints or concerns (poor packaging, bad vendor behavior, reports of buyers being raided) are brushed off as lies, LE, jealous competition etc. It seems much harder to determine who's legitimate, and even harder to raise any concerns without getting shot down by a hoard of posters who don't seem to have any reason to be so hostile . Not sure where I'm going with all this, smoking bud this early in the afternoon has got me in rambling mode :D
Spend the rest of the week posting positive things, we may as well make this community a nice place to be while is lasts ;D
I'm still new here but there does seem to be some tension in the air. I think there is also a bit of a presence here at the moment which isn't good. If you look around and read some of the posts some of them are mighty strange. For example someone in the Netherlands wanting C4 in one thread and offering samples of hash in another. Does anyone else think that's a bit fucking weird? Another one was someone asking for a thread with a list of sellers email addresses in case SR went down... GAMMON MUCH? The other day I got some randomer message me claiming he had a friend in the U.K Special Forces who could get me any gun I wanted and hinting on exchanging details. I fucked with him for a bit and then ROASTED that GAMMON FUCK.
Maybe when things settle down people will chill out. I can see why people are getting dark at the moment though, so much going on.
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The news articles cause some tension too, paranoia develops and the doomsayers come out crying that this is the end. We need another media shitstorm to distract the press for a while, the Trayvon Martin and Kony bullshit kept them busy but it's starting to die down. I heard something about North Korea planning to wipe the south off the map sometime this week
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The news articles cause some tension too, paranoia develops and the doomsayers come out crying that this is the end. We need another media shitstorm to distract the press for a while, the Trayvon Martin and Kony bullshit kept them busy but it's starting to die down. I heard something about North Korea planning to wipe the south off the map sometime this week
Potential nuclear war would definitely get the press off SR's case for a bit. Come on you bat-shit-crazy commies, don't let us down!
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I'm probably contributing to the bad vibes. I can be an asshole sometimes.
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The news articles cause some tension too, paranoia develops and the doomsayers come out crying that this is the end. We need another media shitstorm to distract the press for a while, the Trayvon Martin and Kony bullshit kept them busy but it's starting to die down. I heard something about North Korea planning to wipe the south off the map sometime this week
Potential nuclear war would definitely get the press off SR's case for a bit. Come on you bat-shit-crazy commies, don't let us down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-SlkUgCRg
DON'T LET ME DOWN
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I'm probably contributing to the bad vibes. I can be an asshole sometimes.
This.
I've only been here for a few months but even I see a drastic change. Alot of new members are coming in and seem to be dictating the way the site should be run and it's been getting on my nerves. But Horizon this will be a wake up call I'm gonna start posting more like the way I used too and less hostile.
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Yeah, bad vibes indeed. Not helped by the RC busts, TFM, speculation about certain vendors.
I can't help but feel that user's attitudes to using SilkRoad have changed over the past couple of months and this has crept into the forums. When I joined 12 months ago, the majority of users seemed to exercise a healthy balance of personal security and common sense. This seems to have morphed into an admix of naivety and paranoia. For example a large number of users are happy to give their name and address to any new vendor touting samples, or use clearly shady vendors for the bulk of their purchases. At the same time, any legitimate complaints or concerns (poor packaging, bad vendor behavior, reports of buyers being raided) are brushed off as lies, LE, jealous competition etc. It seems much harder to determine who's legitimate, and even harder to raise any concerns without getting shot down by a hoard of posters who don't seem to have any reason to be so hostile . Not sure where I'm going with all this, smoking bud this early in the afternoon has got me in rambling mode :D
Spend the rest of the week posting positive things, we may as well make this community a nice place to be while is lasts ;D
I'm still new here but there does seem to be some tension in the air. I think there is also a bit of a presence here at the moment which isn't good. If you look around and read some of the posts some of them are mighty strange. For example someone in the Netherlands wanting C4 in one thread and offering samples of hash in another. Does anyone else think that's a bit fucking weird? Another one was someone asking for a thread with a list of sellers email addresses in case SR went down... GAMMON MUCH? The other day I got some randomer message me claiming he had a friend in the U.K Special Forces who could get me any gun I wanted and hinting on exchanging details. I fucked with him for a bit and then ROASTED that GAMMON FUCK.
Maybe when things settle down people will chill out. I can see why people are getting dark at the moment though, so much going on.
I think it comes, and goes.
Been here for at least 9 months, and the forums can get hostile.
Some of the changes weren't for the better.
Some of the things you both say ring true.
It only takes a couple of Asshats (a new word I learned;)) to ruin it for the majority, just like real life.
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I'll be honest, I'm one of the people that's probably contributing to that bad vibe. It just sucks watching this guy make out with probably $100,000 and we have to sit back and watch it happen because we were foolish enough to finalize early for everything. I imagine that by the end of the week once it's clear that he's not coming back, everyone will start to settle down again and leave the past behind, because it's not worth staying angry over for months. We got screwed by some heroin dealer. Who hasn't been screwed IRL? But yeah, I'm definitely already starting to calm down a bit, and I'm sure the rest of the forum will follow suit eventually. It's not easy watching the #1 vendor turn out to be a scammer, but it's the risk we took. Time to let it go.
Unless of course he really does up out of the blue. Then I guarantee that the mood of this entire forum will flip upside down within the hour. But let's be realistic here.
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You are probs right Uniwiz.
And yes... Asshat and it's plural Asshats is an excellent word. :P
@ DC - Yeah if that Tony fella is what people are saying he is then it's going to be tense for a while. Fuck knows why he wandered off though if he was doing such large trade though. Makes no sense to me, sounds like he was on the make.
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Well there are always scammers. Ive had the whool pulled over my eyes several times. We are gambelers. We must look for the best tables. We must plan our wagers. We all cant be winners.
Here is something to cheer everyone up.
Satoshi= Super
Naka =inner
Moto=Motivation.
Personaly I think it means "Super Mario" AKA Shigeru Miyamoto Inventor of Excite Bike a Moto-cross game.
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Silk Road.......has entered the Dark Ages.....
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I haven't had good experiences on SR...
My first purchase was a scam, Obamagirl got me for about ~250$, and then I ordered from some reputable vendors, but they never showed to my P.O. box, so i think that's been flagged. I'm also thinking my home address is flagged because people are receiving their orders from a Canadian vendors in 7days max, and im on day 13.
I had one reship come in to a friends address. I've been trying to convince him to let me send another package to his house, but hes super sketch about it cus he lives with his parents.
The forums have been good to help me learn more, vent my frustrations. But i can see things looking dark, but i think it'll pass.
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I'll be honest, I'm one of the people that's probably contributing to that bad vibe. It just sucks watching this guy make out with probably $100,000 and we have to sit back and watch it happen because we were foolish enough to finalize early for everything. I imagine that by the end of the week once it's clear that he's not coming back, everyone will start to settle down again and leave the past behind, because it's not worth staying angry over for months. We got screwed by some heroin dealer. Who hasn't been screwed IRL? But yeah, I'm definitely already starting to calm down a bit, and I'm sure the rest of the forum will follow suit eventually. It's not easy watching the #1 vendor turn out to be a scammer, but it's the risk we took. Time to let it go.
Unless of course he really does up out of the blue. Then I guarantee that the mood of this entire forum will flip upside down within the hour. But let's be realistic here.
Did you manage to sort things out regarding the people you got mixed up with?
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Thanks to someone on SR that I won't name, my ass is saved. I'll be down a couple hundred bucks of my own money, but that I can deal with, at least I won't be getting my ass kicked any time soon.
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The news articles cause some tension too, paranoia develops and the doomsayers come out crying that this is the end. We need another media shitstorm to distract the press for a while, the Trayvon Martin and Kony bullshit kept them busy but it's starting to die down. I heard something about North Korea planning to wipe the south off the map sometime this week
Potential nuclear war would definitely get the press off SR's case for a bit. Come on you bat-shit-crazy commies, don't let us down!
N.Korea is always doing shit to get attention for more food aid! God knows they need it! The most backward country in the world. But since the beginning of the year there has been lots of scams and good venders leaving, PTP was a big blow for me although he ended up coming through for at least me....Pharmvills probably gone? And lots of personalities ,,,some racist. most misogynistic, I just figure those posters just make themselves out to look like idiots. Its like a Boy club mentality. Fuck that. Lets make this project legit! And the more positive post the better......I'm going to go take my aggressions out in a major U.S city on Mayday! That's what we all should do! The system fucks us all ...Right.Left>black>white.... take the day off.... remember why we have weekends and for some lucky people still holidays and insurance......Those company's fight tooth and nail against all of us.......Peace! Occupy Mayday!!!!!EDIT: Non violence of course..........
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I'm going to go take my aggressions out in a major U.S city on Mayday! That's what we all should do! The system fucks us all
Mate...sounds like you are gunna do a bombing lol....
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Naw! non violence for me....but I'm expecting violence back.......We will be heard!
Yeah that's a great way to get the "Jack Booted Thugs to come kicking in my door hauling me off with a cover over my head, and send me off too a far off land to be tortured.....Wait you can't do that to me I'm White!
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Nasty vibes indeed :(
I think we all need to sit back, drop some acid and chill 8)
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Whoops! I think April is a shitty month in general....don't get me wrong i love spring and 420......but April is my least favorite month......Its also my ex's birthday month. That might have something to do with it......Yes acid chill....good plan indeed! 8)
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Nasty vibes indeed :(
I think we all need to sit back, drop some acid and chill 8)
what this guy said
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I always try to be helpful. I've been on here from the get-go, and these forums have been a real joy: they are useful when purchasing, and I've gown to see several of the people here as friends, and we pm about different things.
The scams have truly hurt us, and if this last debacle is true--if Tony went bad--it will be the worst yet, because people are so divided, and because he was good guy, for so long. A lot of people are and have been, huge defenders of Tony, and have come down pretty hard on the people who say product has not arrived. It has hugely divided our community, and it will take some time to heal. Ideally--and I haven't ruled it out--Tony will come back, but I fear that might not help matters, because his defenders will feel justified in their support, when there were some good points made, especially regarding this overwhelming willingness to go outside escrow for someone so new to SR.
On the other hand, if he *doesn't* return, then a lot of people are out money, some of us quite a bit, and we'll feel resentful and angry at those who wanted us to quiet down.
I have friends on both sides of this, and both sides actually make some good points. I think we'll get over it, regardless of outcome, and maybe we'll get a little better at how we manage things, but there might be some bad blood for a while. How could there not be?
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Thanks to someone on SR that I won't name, my ass is saved. I'll be down a couple hundred bucks of my own money, but that I can deal with, at least I won't be getting my ass kicked any time soon.
Glad to hear it.
See, things are looking up already :D
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I always try to be helpful. I've been on here from the get-go, and these forums have been a real joy: they are useful when purchasing, and I've gown to see several of the people here as friends, and we pm about different things.
The scams have truly hurt us, and if this last debacle is true--if Tony went bad--it will be the worst yet, because people are so divided, and because he was good guy, for so long. A lot of people are and have been, huge defenders of Tony, and have come down pretty hard on the people who say product has not arrived. It has hugely divided our community, and it will take some time to heal. Ideally--and I haven't ruled it out--Tony will come back, but I fear that might not help matters, because his defenders will feel justified in their support, when there were some good points made, especially regarding this overwhelming willingness to go outside escrow for someone so new to SR.
On the other hand, if he *doesn't* return, then a lot of people are out money, some of us quite a bit, and we'll feel resentful and angry at those who wanted us to quiet down.
I have friends on both sides of this, and both sides actually make some good points. I think we'll get over it, regardless of outcome, and maybe we'll get a little better at how we manage things, but there might be some bad blood for a while. How could there not be?
Good post man. I know that some sellers depend on early finalization and it will become much harder for them to make their case if someone as reputable as tony just disappears like this. The value of reputation in taking a hard blow.
There will be tension in the forums and some sellers may not be able to move product as quickly; some may leave entirely. Either way the Road will prevail because there is nothing out there as good as this.
I put down more money than my last ~6 purchases combined on my only FE order ever. Even if tony follows through, it will be difficult to put myself through this again. I'm sure there's others in my boat.
Happy travels
~whirl
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Good vibes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPTx5_EUAF4 (Nero Innocence)
Saw Emalkey do a remix of this at Fabric recently (yeah pigs, I go Fabric, come look for me in the crowd, I'll skank your faces off) and it was really fooking A. Me and my mate were getting well tribal too it and reaching out for the drops. Was a Mandy and K night but I splooshed a bit of Bing and Meph in as well. And about 600ml of Smirnoff on the train down. :)
I know this is a bit of a topic derailer but I can't be bothered to be all doom and gloom so I thought I'd share a happy moment. :)
Lim
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^ 8)
I think we all needed a topic derailer. A friend of mine just got back from studying abroad in London, she had great stories about fabric. Makes me wish I lived in Europe haha
Edit: I agree with flicky, I would love me some fairly priced MDA :)
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Good vibes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPTx5_EUAF4 (Nero Innocence)
Saw Emalkey do a remix of this at Fabric recently (yeah pigs, I go Fabric, come look for me in the crowd, I'll skank your faces off) and it was really fooking A. Me and my mate were getting well tribal too it and reaching out for the drops. Was a Mandy and K night but I splooshed a bit of Bing and Meph in as well. And about 600ml of Smirnoff on the train down. :)
I know this is a bit of a topic derailer but I can't be bothered to be all doom and gloom so I thought I'd share a happy moment. :)
Lim
You posting that nero link reminds me, when are you throwing up that MDA listing! You're prices are going to own the competition :)
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^ 8)
I think we all needed a topic derailer. A friend of mine just got back from studying abroad in London, she had great stories about fabric. Makes me wish I lived in Europe haha
Yeah man Fabric is my heart and soul to be honest. I would probably live there if I could! :)
Going there again soon to see Playaz and when ShyFX is playing (Again pigs, feel free to come and find me in the crowd, come have a skank, try and pick me out, you have two separate dates now, I fucking dare ya!). Should be tribal! I recommend everyone go there if you are in London. I normally send in a couple of minions to push Meph when I go and I just fuck off and party while they do the work. It's a beautiful system! :D
And the MDA is still getting cooked. There was some delays in the process, not through faults in the chemistry but some other shit had to be dealt with. I will be getting it on there asap.
Will be £30 a g/£580 an oz + postage (depending on what shipping you want) and oh yeah...before I forget...NO FUCKING FE! ;)
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Here are some more good vibes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngTTh-Q6Bd0 (Sub Focus - Out Of The Blue)
Anyone heard this yet? It's a banger.
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I'm not a huge DnB head but I saw Spectrasoul a few weeks back and he dropped this beaut.
Commercial as hell but it's got all the right bits to give me the mandy tingles ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdDj_L2wfbM
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Chromeo never fails to put me in a good mood, it brings me back to a beautiful acid peak at electric zoo suuch good vibes 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnyxgE3vmao
edit: also, high contrast :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVLRpSQ0KXM
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Haha, chromeo. I bought a microkorg within an hour of hearing tenderoni ;D
http://soundcloud.com/disclosuremusic/running-jessie-ware-disclosure
Seriously cutting edge UK house/ garage- their production is sickeningly good and they're depressingly young. I saw them play recently, one of them was too young to buy a pint at the bar ;D
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^such a good song, jealous you saw them :)
continuing with the vibes of that song a little jamie xx 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFeTNqfNthU
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I wonder who will be next to pull off the next massive scam...
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I wonder who will be next to pull off the next massive scam...
Hopefully no one! As long as we can all agree to NEVER FE!
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I wonder who will be next to pull off the next massive scam...
Good question...I don't know, probably already in play, tho...those guys don't miss a lick...