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Title: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 05:13 am
So I was thinking that this would be a good idea not only for bragging rights but alos a good way for people to get there top strains out there for review by our community for our community...

This is how I think it should work

1-Vendors need to be chosen to partake in the contest and supply samples of there top buds/hash/oil for this competition.

2-Just like in the real cannabis cup the suppliers and names of budds have to be kept confidential from the testers ( so no one favors one seller or bud over another because they know the supplier or what not...  So were gonna need someone to take in the samples and amrk then for example by number.... that person then needs to send out the samples to the testers for there reviews...

3- Were also going to need a few people to go over the results and crown the winners in the different categories involved...


So basically I'm looking for vendors who want to take part... and any others that may want to volunteer to be part of this awesome 420 experience.....


Lets see what kind of action this thread sees and even if anyone really wants to participate and then we can take it from there!

John
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Post by: metaphoe on September 13, 2012, 05:17 am
i'd  love to be one of the judges !

do we pay for a pass to be a judge ?

from there we can figure out the specifics like how much and how many strains.
and the types as well,, like hybrid, sativa dom. and indica dom.
Title: Re: FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP!!!!!!!!!
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 05:28 am
I think that theres a lot still to discuss... I like the idea of testers paying to be part of the whole experiment... that would offset the costs incurred buy the vendors....

Plus it would make sure only buyers would be involved on the testing and not some scammers or newbies.

I think also that there should be different categories..

For example... indoor weed, outdoor weed, Hash, Oil, Extracts, Edibles and each vendor will have the opportunity to supply one example per category.

Metaphoe.. got any ideas??? 
Title: Re: FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP!!!!!!!!!
Post by: metaphoe on September 13, 2012, 05:37 am
Dang thats exactly what i was thinking.. having it set up and organized by category

from there the pool of all the vendors who would want to join would do so by a given deadline due date

then whatever the offset for the goods for each category be tally'd up and then divided by the number of judges.. to create the judges pass cost to be paid for..

then maybe we can have like different days or people to test each category.
we just need a middle man or the sponsor maybe yourself as the fund collector and the judge supplier for the vendors competing or at least a trusted member or vendor from SR


then we can test the waters to see if the way SR has the vendors listed by best sellin  or by seller rank.. to see if the numbers what SR has made matches what the judges think..

cuz i think that SR listings are not on point.. maybe by gross net worth.. but not by pure will and choice of a person to choose one over another that way .. and not what generated

this would also give bragin' rights..
we would also have to make sure the judgin is done 1 at a time.. cuz testin 2 strains of different types would effect the decision. so it would probably have to be spread out so that like a groups of judges test each seperatley day by day.. making it like a nice 1 week contest
Title: Re: FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP!!!!!!!!!
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 05:50 am
Man, i thought there would be more then 2 people involved by now... its been a full 20 minutes....lol...

nah... just joking... but there would have to be rules... and a time table... each product should be used properly... for example.. if test size is a gram then that whole gram should be consumed at the same time... also the tester should have to wait like 4 hours or even a day to test the next sample.

As for me holding the money or sending off the buds.. I thank you for choosing me for such a serious responsibility but sadly I cant... you see I desperately want to enter some of my buds and hash therefore i cant partake in that manner.... I can help organize and all but after that I want out.....lol... I want to submit my products and sit back and relax while watching this siiiick idea take off...

Were gonna need to find some moderators or at least hero members to help us with this....

I'm good with ideas and helping out but to get the final job all put together and running.. well thats not me!!!
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Post by: metaphoe on September 13, 2012, 06:00 am
shoot, maybe we can get a forum moderator to help out.. or different moderators for each category..

and we make sure they get compensated as well..

other than that its pretty much set...

i was thinkin maybe around halloween for the harvest to be set perfect or like before thanksgiving
Title: Re: FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP!!!!!!!!!
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 06:03 am
Yeah, that could be a good working time frame...

Lets keep this shit bumping over the next few days and see if anyone what to get involved.

 8)
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: metaphoe on September 13, 2012, 06:13 am
BUMP-A-DeLLIC !!!!


 ;D
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 08:44 pm
Sooo.... Anyone out here besides metaphoe that wants to participate?????
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Post by: spacecase #2 on September 13, 2012, 08:49 pm
Don't see how this will work considering no one on here knows how to properly judge weed besides the fact that it gets them high. It would just be a poor decision on everyone's part. And the majority of the people with actual good weed on this site are between harvest now.

I think what would be a better idea is for people who want to judge weed is to actually purchase weed from each vendor and review it in a thread dedicated to just this...

Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 09:06 pm
Don't see how this will work considering no one on here knows how to properly judge weed besides the fact that it gets them high. It would just be a poor decision on everyone's part. And the majority of the people with actual good weed on this site are between harvest now.

I think what would be a better idea is for people who want to judge weed is to actually purchase weed from each vendor and review it in a thread dedicated to just this...

Oh... I see... Snoop Dogg and the High Times chick really know how to judge bud better then the SR community.... I call BS!!!

This is the easy part.. each tester will be given a checklist on different aspects to test...
1-Look
2-Smell
3-Tricombs
4-Smoke Harshness
5-Buzz
6-Buzz Time
7-Taste
ect... all can be rated on a 1-10 scale and with a well written guideline I'm sure any tester who can read would be able to judge the bud properly!
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: spacecase #2 on September 13, 2012, 09:13 pm
Yeah, and everyone who is anyone knows these cups held are nothing but bullshit. Pot politics, that's all.
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: spacecase #2 on September 13, 2012, 09:20 pm
If you're really set on doing something like this getting people to send samples to a "tester" wouldn't work. What would be better is for you to select a anonymous panel and have them purchase from the vendor, that way you get waht they actually sell. Then that person can go down your checklist, rate what they received and post the results, so on and so on...

Having vendors just send samples doesn't seem like a good idea because lets face it some vendors are going to send better weed then they sell.
Title: ?!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?***FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 13, 2012, 09:31 pm
If you're really set on doing something like this getting people to send samples to a "tester" wouldn't work. What would be better is for you to select a anonymous panel and have them purchase from the vendor, that way you get waht they actually sell. Then that person can go down your checklist, rate what they received and post the results, so on and so on...

Having vendors just send samples doesn't seem like a good idea because lets face it some vendors are going to send better weed then they sell.

No doubt this is still in the beginning stages and still has some kinks to be worked out.. but........It could work... It would work.. and for sure it would be sick... I like the Idea of maybe picking anonymous testers to buy product and then test it... but then that takes away form the anonymity provider to the vendor so he/she can get a fair review..

Its a double edged blade but with the feedback from the community I believe we can make something work so as the contest would be fair and controlled !
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 14, 2012, 04:53 am
Still minimal interest I see so I figured I'd bump this up to the top and see what happens...
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: farmer1 on September 14, 2012, 05:16 am
I gave this some thought awhile back. The logistics of putting it out aren't good. There is a middle man who is known, and knows who all the judges are, and is holding all the bud.

Additionally, we already kind of have a SR Cannabis Cup. It is SR.

I was really excited about this idea too but I think it would take some serious thought to pull off.
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 14, 2012, 05:26 am
I gave this some thought awhile back. The logistics of putting it out aren't good. There is a middle man who is known, and knows who all the judges are, and is holding all the bud.

Additionally, we already kind of have a SR Cannabis Cup. It is SR.

I was really excited about this idea too but I think it would take some serious thought to pull off.

Well no one is saying it need to happen right away... i think it could be pulled off... we just need the right people to come forward and want to take part..... I'm sure at some point if SR stays around it will happen.. I'm not gonna just give up on it...
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Post by: farmer1 on September 14, 2012, 06:08 am
Fuck yeah.

I didn't mean to be negative. Just not sure how to make it work yet.
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 14, 2012, 06:11 am
Fuck yeah.

I didn't mean to be negative. Just not sure how to make it work yet.

you got any ideas that could help this come to fruition??
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: AfternoonDelight on September 14, 2012, 04:56 pm
I would say, using a middle man is a recipe for disaster.  We don't want our top vendors being nabbed through profiling or even our top customers (because why would you choose a new account to be a judge?).
I think this might work, but using the following method:

-DPR, DigitalArch or Nomad would choose the judges (being long time admins/founder of the site)
-Vendors who would want to compete would submit SR Gift Certificates for their listing to the admins. (maybe 1 or 2 gram samples)
-The admins would then distribute the gift certificates to the judges, along with a list of participating vendors and products.
-The judges would order the listing using whatever anonymous account they want (this way vendors can't send judges their best, or use their best shipping methods, and leave the crap for the rest of us)
-The judges would then rate the products and submit the reviews to the admins to verify they are the actual reviewers.
-Prizes are awarded to the best vendors (Ranking would be sweet, but possibly also a prize for the winner of the SR Cup of reducing the SR commission to half that of other vendors.)
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Post by: Califinest on September 14, 2012, 05:07 pm
Im a cannabis vendor, id be down to participate!! why not?
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Post by: GetYourFix on September 14, 2012, 05:47 pm
The thread for the complaints about the results compared to the actual thread for the results would be at least double in post count :-D I think, in theory, it's a fantastitc idea. It stops about there for me though.
Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 14, 2012, 08:31 pm
I would say, using a middle man is a recipe for disaster.  We don't want our top vendors being nabbed through profiling or even our top customers (because why would you choose a new account to be a judge?).
I think this might work, but using the following method:

-DPR, DigitalArch or Nomad would choose the judges (being long time admins/founder of the site)
-Vendors who would want to compete would submit SR Gift Certificates for their listing to the admins. (maybe 1 or 2 gram samples)
-The admins would then distribute the gift certificates to the judges, along with a list of participating vendors and products.
-The judges would order the listing using whatever anonymous account they want (this way vendors can't send judges their best, or use their best shipping methods, and leave the crap for the rest of us)
-The judges would then rate the products and submit the reviews to the admins to verify they are the actual reviewers.
-Prizes are awarded to the best vendors (Ranking would be sweet, but possibly also a prize for the winner of the SR Cup of reducing the SR commission to half that of other vendors.)


you got some great ideas there... However i dont think DPR would want to take part of have anything sent to him for that matter... (unless its btc)
I dont understand tho... Were gonna give out coupons to the "admins" and then there gonna give then to the judge... but then wont we know were sending it to the judge when they pay with said coupon???

I think maybe the judges would have to buy the product for real btc like anyone else and then get refunded through the "admins" or something so that way we dont know its the judges buying the testers...


Also it would be cool as well to get 50% off our commission or some sort of  banner in the herb section or something next to our name to distinguish us as SR CC Official Vendor, and our product coudl also have some sort of icon to let clients know what place the bud did in the competition..

Well... I'm super high right now...so I'ma be back soon and we see where were at then~!
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Post by: MagicMan on September 14, 2012, 08:42 pm
This sounds like an awesome idea and I really hope that it can somehow come to pass. I would be more than happy to buy a judge-pass and meanwhile will try to come up with some ideas to improve the feasibility of this endeavor!
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Post by: BigBill6778 on September 14, 2012, 09:42 pm
OK what about an independant taste tests I have 5 friends where I live we will purchase a sample off 10 vendors (at our Expense) then we will do a Blind Sight,smell cure,and taste,burn test

would you buyers be satisfied with our Ratings & opinions of the other Vendors we will pick from the top ten vendors and 5 free sample clients

as everyone thinks they have the best product Our judges are dealers and CHRONIC users so they will have to have some serious wares to claim bragging rights

this will be done this month if alot of you say yes
we will give a fair & honest opinion and be truthful of the out come to the forums
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Post by: metaphoe on September 15, 2012, 01:04 am
 8) BIG BILL.. does have some mean OiL.. i hear alot of vendors go to him.. for that..

i say if we can't get a reshipper of the entries..
then we can have a judges plate sampler sale.. not telling the buyer exactly what the strain is.. just to be numbered.
so like the numbers can be revealed at the end of the contest after the decisions been made

for like every vendor that enters we can bring up the price of the ticket...
or as long as we come up with

Title: Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?*** FIRST ANNUAL SR CANNABIS CUP***?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Post by: johnmtl on September 15, 2012, 11:49 pm
OK what about an independant taste tests I have 5 friends where I live we will purchase a sample off 10 vendors (at our Expense) then we will do a Blind Sight,smell cure,and taste,burn test

would you buyers be satisfied with our Ratings & opinions of the other Vendors we will pick from the top ten vendors and 5 free sample clients

as everyone thinks they have the best product Our judges are dealers and CHRONIC users so they will have to have some serious wares to claim bragging rights

this will be done this month if alot of you say yes
we will give a fair & honest opinion and be truthful of the out come to the forums

I'd be down for something like that.. but we need more vendors to come forward that want to participate
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Post by: BigBill6778 on September 16, 2012, 02:34 am
problem is they all say they have the Best but won't come forward.Maybe the users here should speak up and let us know who they think has the best weed and then Me & my Team will do purchases and test and also send testers to other Buyers here and let them Blind Judge also Then take the overall scores and post them

I figure some of the Buyers would be up for free samples already rolled and labelled all they have to do is get 3 people to help them make a fair judgement and come back here and submit their #'s
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Post by: uniwiz on September 16, 2012, 04:02 am
I gave this some thought awhile back. The logistics of putting it out aren't good. There is a middle man who is known, and knows who all the judges are, and is holding all the bud.

Additionally, we already kind of have a SR Cannabis Cup. It is SR.

I was really excited about this idea too but I think it would take some serious thought to pull off.

+1

I do an SR cannabis cup every day. Thats why I started the Cannabis review thread.
When I can't tell the strain differences anymore, it's time to quit for a while.
The problem is politics, corruption, and being anonymous.
Plus Christy Nugs has the best weed around! See? We all have our favs.
Ok, Bruce Banner was great too;)
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Post by: johnmtl on September 16, 2012, 04:07 am
I gave this some thought awhile back. The logistics of putting it out aren't good. There is a middle man who is known, and knows who all the judges are, and is holding all the bud.

Additionally, we already kind of have a SR Cannabis Cup. It is SR.

I was really excited about this idea too but I think it would take some serious thought to pull off.

+1

I do an SR cannabis cup every day. Thats why I started the Cannabis review thread.
When I can't tell the strain differences anymore, it's time to quit for a while.
The problem is politics, corruption, and being anonymous.
Plus Christy Nugs has the best weed around! See? We all have our favs.
Ok, Bruce Banner was great too;)


Well I think  maybe its time you ordered a sample pack from me to test the goods!!  ;)
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Post by: uniwiz on September 16, 2012, 05:34 am
Honestly I would but I've given up on most customs buys.
Pills are good to sneak through but weed has to be flattened.
I do wish you the best.

If you guys need help, I'm willing.
I just agree the logistics are a pain.

I can name so many really good vendors, yet I haven't even scratched the surface.
How about using the forum voting feature? Nope, I see potential cheating.
Oh well......
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Post by: johnmtl on September 16, 2012, 05:39 am

How about using the forum voting feature? Nope, I see potential cheating.
Oh well......

What do you mean?? can you explain more regarding this option
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Post by: bernlin on September 17, 2012, 02:19 am
Do the forums even have the ability to poll users (never created a thread myself)? A poll on the best cannabis vendors on SR would probably be pretty unwieldy though: the thread on good cannabis vendors has a HUGE list. Sure, some vendors come and go, but we've had a lot of solid ones that have both stayed and only been here for a short time. It does seem like, overall, people tend to flock to the best vendors, and that can be sorted on SR (based on how much business a vendor does) when you're deciding what to buy, which is really useful.

The original concept, though, also sounds great, if it can be organized safely. Doesn't seem particularly suited for such an anonymous, heavily-guarded market though.
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Post by: metaphoe on September 17, 2012, 06:23 am
i say if the money right.. and people drop like a good 100 dollars for the entry.. and like an extra 25 for the reshipper to do his job..

then it will. money will make the people put real hard work in effort to see it pay off...

and all the money for the tickets will got to each place respectively..
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Post by: AfternoonDelight on September 17, 2012, 08:05 pm
I don't think a reshipper should be used at all, it's just asking for trouble.
Admins should vet some longtime members as reviewers.
The vendors then issue gift codes to the admins equal to the number of samples they wish to distribute.
The admins give the gift codes to the specific members, who can use any shill account to purchase the goods they want to, to preserve anonymity.
The listings cannot/should not be specific to the review, but should be a regular listing so anybody can try it and help preserve the anonymity of the actual reviewers.  This will prevent a seller from sending their best to reviewers, and crap to everyone else.
1st prize could be 1/2 price on SR sellers fees, or maybe no sellers fees for a period of time.
That'd get 'em moving!
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Post by: thatguynextdoor on September 17, 2012, 09:30 pm
i love this idea  ;D
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Post by: metaphoe on September 18, 2012, 02:33 am
i was thinking a real good re-shipper like USA reshipper.. that way people can get they packages anonymously...

to have the admins help would be cool. but then to get them to do it is another thing..

though we can also pay them for they insight or at least a donation.. but the idea of the gift code would be awesome.

all that should get it moving
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Post by: BlarghRawr on September 25, 2012, 05:47 am
I'm also against the re-shipper idea, for the record. Coupon-codes seems like the smartest idea.
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Post by: gtrmonkey on September 30, 2012, 03:43 am
Why dont we do this we can have an SR buyer packer for the testers. Have a limited number of them for sale, And the requirement would be strict. Really what the buyer pack would be using the coupons on Sr. They would be custom to this.Once the vendor recieves the coupon, they label the numbers for the same they want to provide. Notice this will only work for member that have impacted the commuinty. My suggestion would be BlarghRawr to be a tester. Why the man reviewed just about ever weed vendor here.
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Post by: BlarghRawr on September 30, 2012, 03:56 am
Why dont we do this we can have an SR buyer packer for the testers. Have a limited number of them for sale, And the requirement would be strict. Really what the buyer pack would be using the coupons on Sr. They would be custom to this.Once the vendor recieves the coupon, they label the numbers for the same they want to provide. Notice this will only work for member that have impacted the commuinty. My suggestion would be BlarghRawr to be a tester. Why the man reviewed just about ever weed vendor here.
I've also done my best to help a lot of them get set up. I aggressively watch the domestic new-listings for cannabis, and the product-offers forums so I can catch as many new vendors, that my advice is relevant to and thus domestic mostly, as possible.

I'm honored by your suggestion, by the way. For my part, I'd recommend DrGonzoII as well. I know he has more cannabis-experience than I do.
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Post by: metaphoe on September 30, 2012, 04:06 am
Awesome.. i can alert all domestic vendors now and have them partake
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Post by: johnmtl on October 22, 2012, 01:22 am
So guys.. who wants to take the bull by the horns and get this off the ground and make this happen... I dont have time to run it or set it up but I'd love to partake.