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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: Gelman on August 11, 2012, 03:22 am
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Ordering Instructions:
1) I ONLY WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO USE PGP, IF YOU SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS IN THE SR MARKETPLACE UNENCRYPTED I WILL CANCEL YOUR ORDER.
2) Please send encrypted to me with my public key below:
2a) Include your address
2b) Add your PGP public key
2c) Your email
3) If you send me your address unencrypted I will cancel your order
4) If I don't have an email address I can not send your DCN to you.
5) If all three things are not included in the encrypted order, your order will be canceled.
6) These rules are to make it so that no one's order has any errors and to be as efficient as possible with turnaround.
Shipping:
I ship in batches. SR fills up my orders pretty quickly. I have been posting the approximate days that the next shipping date is schedule for but don't wait until the last minute. If your order while orders have already begun being packed you're gonna end up having to wait 2-3 days until the next ship date.
Listing:
MDMA:
1 Gram: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e39d5d09c4
1/8 Oz: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/01d58eb777
1/4 Oz: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/dc46452740
1/2 Oz: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/3ce546a1ab
1 Oz: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/187f51b732
Ketamine:
1 Gram: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/db348ed14b
1/8 Oz: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/eff83c1a3a
Picture of MDMAt: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/gelman.jpg/
gelman@lavabit.com
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Future Products:
MDA
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Pm you my drop?
I'm not exactly sure what you want but I'd love to sample a gram from you
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He means send him a pm with your shipping address. Why don't you set up a listing for 0 coins? That way they can leave feedback.
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Yea if I get it ill have it reagent tested because that stuff looks like a Brownie.
Any clue why its so dark?
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i take a sample and test. price is good, but looks like nuck.
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http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489 <- GC/MS test of the product showing pure mdma. The chemist just does not do a final wash which leaves the brown color from the original safrole synth, Please do not pm me your drops for the 1 gram samples. Send them to my lavabit email address encrypted. I cannot read encrypted PMs, I only work through gpg email and the occasional pidgin chat with OTR. If you think that this product is less potent then the dutch crystals eat 200mg and spend a few hours vomiting. For the individuals who receive samples all I ask is that they leave a review here in this thread.
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I cant login to tormail send you add.
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Once more try
I have heard the sandy brown in CA was good.
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Hmmm... Very suspicious... some of us have seen various batches of Mandy. No offense never seen one that looks like your pic. Have you reagent tested this? If so with what? Also, what type of reaction with the reagents. I have seen a bunch of crap, and that shit ain't for me if it is some bull! Your pic that you reference ummm doesn't look anything like yours. You can take some toxic crap and throw up doesn't mean its good.
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I'm more concerned that he wont list his samples, especially if he's giving them away to get feedback.
I'm not sure what you mean by me not listing the samples. Are you saying it's better to just post some 0.0BTC 1g samples on SR instead of just handing them out to the people who have showed the most interest. Either way the sample is free and shipping is covered. For larger orders I'd expect the usage of SR's escrow system to protect sellers in actual purchases, this is nothing more then a completely free sample to 10 individuals to prove the superiority of the product over the dutch moon rocks. As for it's appearance the dark brown is a left over reagent from the original synthesis that began with safrole. that the chemist refuses to clean. It also gives the mdma a very potent safrole/licorice scent. The appearance is far different from the moon rocks, because the moon rocks are put into a chemical oven and melted into large blocks. MDMA is a racemic chemical which is why this mdma is a fine crystalline sand with slight larger chunks. As i posted earlier the GC/ms test came back positive for MDMA. I figured 10 free grams would show the community the quality of the product with no risk on the buyer's end.
For those of you have been pming PGP encrypted PMs please stop. Just PM your public key so that I may add it to my keychain and then email the encrypted information. Make sure to be using stand alone PGP software. I find Enigmail plugin for thunderbird to be the most simple form of pgp encyrpted email chat.
Gman
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I've had brown MDMA before and couldn't tell the difference, had the slight sassafras rootbeer smell. Will be glad to give a review, thanks.
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If you make a stealth-listing, you can PM the link to it to the people you choose to be samplers. Then only they have access to it, and it comes with the benefit of being able to place feedback on your page(after you de-stealth the listing, once all samples are taken) and allow the more paranoid of us to go through the SR-escrow system. The assurance of all information being deleted, at least from SR, you understand.
That having been said, I'm interested somewhat, but would you be willing/able to split it into ten (mostly)equal gel-caps? Also, the above method is my preferred method for placing an order.
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I have had MDMA from Kara, Skyy and Rainbow Vomit. I would be willing to sample some MDMA and even though I don't use the forums very much my stats are pretty good being
Total transactions: 19
Total spent: $2274.72
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 7 months
And I would be able to write an honest review since eveeyone loves moon rocks but when I try to email you it fails for some reason
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I have had MDMA from Kara, Skyy and Rainbow Vomit. I would be willing to sample some MDMA and even though I don't use the forums very much my stats are pretty good being
Total transactions: 19
Total spent: $2274.72
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 7 months
And I would be able to write an honest review since eveeyone loves moon rocks but when I try to email you it fails for some reason
Are you using thunderbird with the eginmail add on? Easiest way to gpg email just copy your receipients public key server and it auto encrypts the email. I'd stick to gmx or lavabit for email clients. Hushmail as admitted to working with LEO.
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Everyone who has properly pgp emailed me a drop has received a private SR auction for one free gram of mdma. There are still a few slots open so, get to those emails!
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As a new domestic MDMA vendor, we welcome you!
Some serious questions for you:
1) Why do you prefer that people email you their "drop"/address to a free clearweb account rather than SR?
2) Why don't you use a tor email address? Is that not safer for both yourself and more importantly, your buyers?
3) As a new vendor, why would you purposely avoid using SR for communication and instead choose an unsecure email service?
4) 10 g worth of free samples seems unheard of/extremely generous. As a new vendor, what made you decide to be so generous, as opposed to providing a single dose or two, as most new vendors?
5) Do you intend to use SR for communication in the future, particularly communicating encrypted info (shipping info/etc)?
6) Selling lesser quantities at higher prices would appear to be extremely lucrative. Why do you choose not to capitalize on anything less than 1/2 oz?
Sorry for all the questions, I hope you don't mind answering them. It's exciting to see a new domestic vendor, especially at those prices! Good luck!
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Could I get sample please?
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Are you using thunderbird with the eginmail add on? Easiest way to gpg email just copy your receipients public key server and it auto encrypts the email. I'd stick to gmx or lavabit for email clients. Hushmail as admitted to working with LEO.
I am using Tormail so I'm not sure about all that jazz
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none of this is suspicious behavior
4) 10 g worth of free samples seems unheard of/extremely generous. As a new vendor, what made you decide to be so generous, as opposed to providing a single dose or two, as most new vendors?
i have access to the "chemist" that gelman claims to be getting his mdma from, it costs $14/g if you're a preferred customer so it's not a big loss for him
if he's being truthful about his source, this will be the best mdma sr has ever seen
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Is this what DrNYX was talking about when he said soon to come USA domestic vendors ;) ??
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http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489 <- GC/MS test of the product showing pure mdma. The chemist just does not do a final wash which leaves the brown color from the original safrole synth, Please do not pm me your drops for the 1 gram samples. Send them to my lavabit email address encrypted. I cannot read encrypted PMs, I only work through gpg email and the occasional pidgin chat with OTR. If you think that this product is less potent then the dutch crystals eat 200mg and spend a few hours vomiting. For the individuals who receive samples all I ask is that they leave a review here in this thread.
That is such bullshit.... The chemist is taking huge sidesteps in the synth process and loading the product with massive impurities. Take it form someone who knows. MDMA when properly synthesized drops from solution white as snow. Everyone points fingers at left over safrole, well safrole is colorless!
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As a new domestic MDMA vendor, we welcome you!
Some serious questions for you:
1) Why do you prefer that people email you their "drop"/address to a free clearweb account rather than SR?
If people have their thunderbird email set up with proper pgp encryption and tor proxy routing you're just as safe as anything SR's communication systems. Independent private keys stored in an encrypted container are extremely safe.
2) Why don't you use a tor email address? Is that not safer for both yourself and more importantly, your buyers?
I don't use tor because I've been using lavabit for years with PGP encryption and ip traffic pushed out through for secure VPNs. The tormail service really isn't anything special.
3) As a new vendor, why would you purposely avoid using SR for communication and instead choose an unsecure email service?
"The unsecured email service was simply for the first 10 people receiving free samples. Those samples will be provided as hidden escrow auctions to the lucky few samplers.
4) 10 g worth of free samples seems unheard of/extremely generous. As a new vendor, what made you decide to be so generous, as opposed to providing a single dose or two, as most new vendors?
Sorry man, 10gs of mdma is nothing. I give that out for free at regular house parties i go to.
5) Do you intend to use SR for communication in the future, particularly communicating encrypted info (shipping info/etc)?
All large orders 1/2oz, 1oz and 4oz order will be going through SR's encrypted system and escrow system for both buyer and seller protection.
6) Selling lesser quantities at higher prices would appear to be extremely lucrative. Why do you choose not to capitalize on anything less than 1/2 oz?
It's not worth my time to break down my product to anything smaller then a 1/2 oz
Sorry for all the questions, I hope you don't mind answering them. It's exciting to see a new domestic vendor, especially at those prices! Good luck!
The questions are welcomed, I want everyone to feel as comfortable with my service as possible.
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So far 5 individuals have been able to pgp email me their drops. 5 more people have the ability to also get in on the free sample if they provide me with gpg encrypted drops.
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This looks like some of the crystal Marceline had up a little while back, but it was cut with amp.
Not saying yours is just making an observation. Regardless, I am quite interested and have sent you an email. :)
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This vendor looks promising..Gel can you pm me the link to the auction so I can give you feedback when I recieve it. thanks
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This vendor looks promising..Gel can you pm me the link to the auction so I can give you feedback when I recieve it. thanks
mise well make my first post on this thread since it's the reason i signed up to the forums. never had a reason to sign up until now.
looking forward to a reply gelman.
also people on the forums are really critical about new vendors; has to be a good thing haha.
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Ok guys, I posted 10 free 1 gram samples on the SR market place. So far 3 of them have been claimed. As soon as the next 7 are filled all 10 will be dropped in a priority envelope with a DCN. Please include your drop in the gpg message included in your order to make the process much easier. After the the packs are dropped all compromising information is removed for everyone's safety.
Link to samples: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/3da5318f82
Gman
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Can't wait :)
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I think this is my stuff. The person selling it, is a very respected member across the private forum community who has changed his name from there to work here for obvious reasons.
Looks a little darker, but it appears he didnt take the photo with a flash.
As for the claims that brown MDMA is dirty or contaminated, that is not the case. We could argue back and forth for pages and hours ... but it isnt gonna go anywhere. MDMA has many synths from the number of starting points and methods ( PMK, safrole, MDp2p directly ) and it doesnt all end up the same. The chemist we use can make this stuff out of safrole, but now that we have Mdp2p back its gonna be tan powder. Makes no sense to me, but I dont know a ton about chemistry either lol.
-AC ::)
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thanks for the sample man cant wait
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Looking forward to the reviews, I would take a sample but for security reasons can't give out any address but hopefully the reviews come in and are good!
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Ok, the 10 listed free samples of the MDMA have been filled on SR. Expect a DCN for your sample sometime around tuesday/wednesday this week.
Testers:
1. ralph2341542
2. Piy70xxPRF
3. lucas83
4. trinitron421
5. lovestotrip
6. l1llykins
7. BlarghRawr
8. philter3
9. mcgrizzle
10. lebotbahn
Sorry for anyone who missed out on one of the free samples, but there will be plenty coming on board as soon as some of these reviews are posted. Everyone on the sample list should expect a pgp'd DCN # a day or two before it actually enters the system.
For everyone curious about the quality of the product before the reviews come in, please check this link. http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489 It cannot display purity because of DEA regulations, but the product itself is pure mdma with not speed adulterants.
Thanks
g-man
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Looking forward to reviewing. :)
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lol u guys are idiots. good mdma doesnt look like that
i have shit that looks exactly like that, i didnt even roll. it numbed my whole mouth so assuming it was laced with C
just be careful, buyer beware
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Looking promising although so many new vendors do. I will stay updated as yes we need a domestic vendor to slay the market.
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Looking forward to the reviews.
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m3bimmer that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
laced with cocaine ... goof.
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Um HELLO that brown blow is where its at! sofuckingood
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brown crystal cocaine is the SHIT ... lol.
mbimmers other posts are primarily Pfand shills ....
gelman is gonna murder the domestic US market ... I spoke bad of Dom for talking and not doing, so I wouldnt say it if I didnt KNOW it.
not gonna ride my dudes nuts anymore, just wait.
peace !
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Hey guys the 10 samples are ready to go. lebotbahn emailed me his drop but I have no idea what his email is so I need his drop info before sending out all 10 samples. If he get it to me in time, all 10 will be dropped priority monday night in some blue boxes so expect your tester gram by this weekend if things go according to plan.
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Very Interesting........... ;D
Welcome to the Road 8)
Peace,
-SF
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@Gelman
Just sent it your way. Thanks!
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If you were listed as one of the 10 sample receivers and have not pgp' me your pubic key by tomorrow 3pm EST so that I may send you your DCN, then your spot will be given to someone else.
So Far these people owe me a pgp key or email:
mcgrizzle
l1llykins
trinitron421
philter3
BlarghRawr
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If you were listed as one of the 10 sample receivers and have not pgp' me your pubic key by tomorrow 3pm EST so that I may send you your DCN, then your spot will be given to someone else.
So Far these people owe me a pgp key or email:
mcgrizzle
l1llykins
trinitron421
philter3
BlarghRawr
Gelman, I just shot you a forum PM.
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If this is the same mdma coming from across the pond it is some fiiiire.
It looks identical to the mdma I just imported. If it's the same you guys are in for a treat.
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i want to see how this is going to turn out lol, but 1 gram samples? Damn
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i sent you my pgp key dude so hit me up when you got my dcn
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i want to see how this is going to turn out lol, but 1 gram samples? Damn
Same here, stand up vendor if it's legit Molly. I would have done 100mg cap samples :D
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This MDMA is fire as FUCK, every single time. I love it.
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sweet holly i cant wait to roll my balls off then i only tried regular rolls once and it was ok
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or better than Drnyx, ivory?
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This MDMA is fire as FUCK, every single time. I love it.
What dose did you take and can you compare it some of our Dutch vendors? :)
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Hey guys,
...The first 10 individuals who pgp me there drops will receive a 1 gram free sample of the product.
I requested one of the samples as you directed, but would like to withdraw my request.
Reason: I am new to SR, and although I am well known in other parts of the online community, I am brand-new to SR, and feel that my review would not be of any worth to you or potential buyers of your product, as my reputation obviously hasn't gained the merit needed to instill the trust a potential buyer would need to accept my review as authentic.
I apologize for wasting your time.
RySeN
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I'm thinking about doing a sample, but what exactly do i have to do if its not on the vendors page? Email you?
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Hey guys,
...The first 10 individuals who pgp me there drops will receive a 1 gram free sample of the product.
I requested one of the samples as you directed, but would like to withdraw my request.
Reason: I am new to SR, and although I am well known in other parts of the online community, I am brand-new to SR, and feel that my review would not be of any worth to you or potential buyers of your product, as my reputation obviously hasn't gained the merit needed to instill the trust a potential buyer would need to accept my review as authentic.
I apologize for wasting your time.
RySeN
Just my personal opinion here but: Fuck that. You certainly seem on the up and up, given that you're asking to be dropped from the samples for this reason. I'm of the opinion that I would trust your review. Could be just me, but still.
And darthvaderstar, they've all been claimed. (Unless RySeN is dropping his, but I don't think he really should.)
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yeah dude dont drop your sample this is good for your first order so you know you wont get ripped off
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This MDMA is fire as FUCK, every single time. I love it.
Holly when did you try it because he did'nt have you on his sample list.
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This MDMA is fire as FUCK, every single time. I love it.
Holly when did you try it because he did'nt have you on his sample list.
I believe Holly is commenting based on the belief that the chemist supplying gelman is someone Holly has dealt with before.
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If he drops then i can take it if he wants, but if he takes it back then that's fine too i'll let him. Just thought i could help out since mdma is my choice of drug lol.
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Very professional communication, Gelman.
I have a gram of white MDMA from a German vendor on the way too, but won't be able to compare since I'm saving my serotonin for your review.
Thank you and looking forward to reviewing your product.
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Looking forward to the reviews! I've been looking for someone domestic on SR that sells large amounts domestically. Hope all turns out well so I won't have to deal with customs anymore...
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i got my dcn now dude thanks cant wait for the sample
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Honestly this stuff shits on the Dutch crystals anyday.
That's all I will say.
Peace. 8)
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hehe so do you think it will have me rolling balls if this will be my first time trying molly
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hehe so do you think it will have me rolling balls if this will be my first time trying molly
If it doesn't there is something srsly wrong with your brain. :)
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sent you an email in case anyone else does not want the sample, have tried alot of the mdma on sr and would like to add yours to the list.
mclovin478910
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I know everyone will give me shit for but this looks just like the MDMA coming from canada that's cut with meth. I hope all you testers have your reagents.
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For the 10 private samples listed on LR, they will be active in the USPS DCN system tomorrow. The only issue I've had is the fact that Dr. Leo has not sent me a proper public pgg key that I can send him his encrypted DCN. Please send me an email LEO with nothing but your public key. Everyone else plan on receiving this upcoming weekend and having a blind blowing MDMA experience on this substance. I know a few people requested a sample after they have already been filled, but if you look at my SR profile I'm currently offering 16, 1 oz amounts and another 6 1/2 amounts. Peace and love!
Gman
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For the 10 private samples listed on LR, they will be active in the USPS DCN system tomorrow. The only issue I've had is the fact that Dr. Leo has not sent me a proper public pgg key that I can send him his encrypted DCN. Please send me an email LEO with nothing but your public key. Everyone else plan on receiving this upcoming weekend and having a blind blowing MDMA experience on this substance. I know a few people requested a sample after they have already been filled, but if you look at my SR profile I'm currently offering 16, 1 oz amounts and another 6 1/2 amounts. Peace and love!
Gman
If you would sell it in smaller amounts i may buy it just to see how it is, depending on upcoming feedback.
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Not sure if I'm more excited about testing the sample this weekend OR the fact that we have a domestic supplier that looks like he'll be delivering a superior product at a superior price (perfect timing btw) :)
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thanks gelman i cant wait to roll my balls of this week :)
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Fair enough once the reviews roll in o and qp. thzquality this up coming weekend. I will be offering 1/2 oz, zips, qps and that is all foks!
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For the 10 private samples listed on LR, they will be active in the USPS DCN system tomorrow. The only issue I've had is the fact that Dr. Leo has not sent me a proper public pgg key that I can send him his encrypted DCN. Please send me an email LEO with nothing but your public key. Everyone else plan on receiving this upcoming weekend and having a blind blowing MDMA experience on this substance. I know a few people requested a sample after they have already been filled, but if you look at my SR profile I'm currently offering 16, 1 oz amounts and another 6 1/2 amounts. Peace and love!
Gman
I looked on your vendor page and all i saw was your 1 oz amounts, where are the 6 1/2 amounts the you say your currently offering ?
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Same here silent I looked and didn't see them either. I expect he will list them once the reviews start rolling in
For the 10 private samples listed on LR, they will be active in the USPS DCN system tomorrow. The only issue I've had is the fact that Dr. Leo has not sent me a proper public pgg key that I can send him his encrypted DCN. Please send me an email LEO with nothing but your public key. Everyone else plan on receiving this upcoming weekend and having a blind blowing MDMA experience on this substance. I know a few people requested a sample after they have already been filled, but if you look at my SR profile I'm currently offering 16, 1 oz amounts and another 6 1/2 amounts. Peace and love!
Gman
Great prices man. Around here people are paying 25 bucks for 100 mg
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start at 100mg you can always take more
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150mg will have you rolling extremely hard. About equal to 175-200mgof the moon rocks. 130mg is nice or for a more mellow roll 90-100mg. Had a bit of car troubles last night so the samples are going out tonight instead sorry guys. But all 10 of you who got an order in will have it ASAP.
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I know everyone will give me shit for but this looks just like the MDMA coming from canada that's cut with meth. I hope all you testers have your reagents.
Yeah and it is moist and clumps together like beach sand or amphetamine paste.
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man i cant wait this is gonna be a amazing time thanks again gelman!
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I know everyone will give me shit for but this looks just like the MDMA coming from canada that's cut with meth. I hope all you testers have your reagents.
Yeah and it is moist and clumps together like beach sand or amphetamine paste.
The vendor RainbowVomit has MDMA that looks something very similar i was wondering if its the same stuff
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So what doses do you experts recommend for us? Say we normally take 150mg, we should cut back to 100mg? I prefer to not spend my evening in the toilet. :)
If this is in fact the same mdma I have (which I'm sure it is most of SR's mdma is the same shit) I dosed 180mg last night and it was perfect.
I'm 150lbs and I have a little bit of a tolerance so 130-150mg should be good for a average dose.
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The vendor RainbowVomit has MDMA that looks something very similar i was wondering if its the same stuff
Maybe Holly and Shannon can comment? Is it the same source?
RV and myself can pick up from the same person that this batch of gelman's is from. i can also pick up from most of the other people that RV would get keys from from but i'm pretty sure she knows a couple more major molly exporters than me. i can't really say either way for sure
Yeah we know pretty much the same sources, you probably actually know a couple more then me I would think.
Gelman is 100% legit everyone. :)
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Is that a yes that it's the same gear?
It could be and could not be I'm not sure. We don't talk to eachother about who we're getting from or when we're getting it, for that would leave many of us open to security breaches. I know he's legit, and you guys will be very pleased with his service.
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*in transit*
Looks like the Bentley is out of the shop :)
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haha
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*just so all know, this guy never sent any of the original samples. he promised me one being that i was the first to ask him, and then i check back, after confirming my sample and already handing out my address, only to find that he COMPLETELY changed his agreement. i feel shorted, even though this was free stuff. it was a vendors word, and to me it feels broken. my main problem is that i had already given my drop and have had multiple conversations with this vendor about my sample and future purchases. maybe im just bitching but i dont think this is the way to start out your vending career
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*just so all know, this guy never sent any of the original samples. he promised me one being that i was the first to ask him, and then i check back, after confirming my sample and already handing out my address, only to find that he COMPLETELY changed his agreement. i feel shorted, even though this was free stuff. it was a vendors word, and to me it feels broken. my main problem is that i had already given my drop and have had multiple conversations with this vendor about my sample and future purchases. maybe im just bitching but i dont think this is the way to start out your vending career
I sent him a pgp awhile ago but never got a response; I think I may have done it wrong so just recently I sent another (the *right* way) so that may have been why I was never linked to a stealth thread. Gelman if you see this -- check your SR pms and my pgp key is in my signature =) Still looking forward to testing this product out and letting the masses know the quality.
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He provided DCN's to quite a few people, no ?
Saying he didnt send ANY of the samples, is that accurate ?
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Not accurate as I've been sent a DCN a couple days ago, being #3 on the first page list and #2 on the third page list. Not sure what mindman means by "original samples".
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well my apologies for not reading the entire list. Was I the only one who got stiffed on my sample?
if so i guess ill forget it. others should still have the chance to try his product.
gelman: if you want to hold true to your word id love to get the sample promised to me.
^ive sent one message to each account: forums, email, and vendor page. no reply as of now.
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is anybody's dcn active yet?
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to make a post letting everyone know about my new domestic US mdma vending service here on SR. I will be offering MDMA in amounts from 1/2 oz to QPs. Pasted below will be my price list and public pgp key. The first 10 individuals who pgp me there drops will receive a 1 gram free sample of the product. The mdma is a dark tan fine crystal. Dosages range from as low as 90mg to 150mg. Most people find 150mgs to be a little overwhelming though. I will have a picture of the product posted over the next few days also. If you have ever tried the Dutch "Moon Rocks" you will find that this product is actually superior in quality.
Pricing:
1/2 oz: $700
1oz: $1,100
4oz: $3,900
Picture of Product: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/gelman.jpg/
Silkroad Listing: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/187f51b732
DO NOT EMAIL ME AN UNENCRYPTED EMAILS. ALSO THE SUBJECT TITLE SHOULD NOT CONTAIN ANY INFO. A SIMPLE HELLO IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.
Please also include that you are from the silkroad in the body of the email so that I know where you are from.
gelman@lavabit.com
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Current Sample Recipients:
1. Mindman
2. ralph123
3. piy
4. madhatter
5.l1llykins
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Mindman was first on this list !
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is anybody's dcn active yet?
Was about to ask the same thing, hehe.
I still haven't received a DCN (although it was marked in transit yesterday).
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i got my dcn but its still not active for some reason idk
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Get a new vendor account buddy cause your not only a scammer but your also someone I dont like. Tell these people to look up your shitty scamorsafe review that proves you fake bullshit, or at least lie about what products are getting, accourding to safeorscam. I dont care if you are a scammer but your just so ez 2 spot I had 2 talk shit about this wanna be scam
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Get a new vendor account buddy cause your not only a scammer but your also someone I dont like. Tell these people to look up your shitty scamorsafe review that proves you fake bullshit, or at least lie about what products are getting, accourding to safeorscam. I dont care if you are a scammer but your just so ez 2 spot I had 2 talk shit about this wanna be scam
He's not a scam.
Y do U typez Lik3 12 YO girlz?
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haha sometime usps is slow with the tracking
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haha sometime usps is slow with the tracking
also he may have the dcn and just not of dropped it off yet. It usually goes through next day. I think his profile says he only drops off once a week. Just give it time, this dude is legit.
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I've had several packages delivered before tracking was even registered in the system.
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Get a new vendor account buddy cause your not only a scammer but your also someone I dont like. Tell these people to look up your shitty scamorsafe review that proves you fake bullshit, or at least lie about what products are getting, accourding to safeorscam. I dont care if you are a scammer but your just so ez 2 spot I had 2 talk shit about this wanna be scam
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to make a post letting everyone know about my new domestic US mdma vending service here on SR. I will be offering MDMA in amounts from 1/2 oz to QPs. Pasted below will be my price list and public pgp key. The first 10 individuals who pgp me there drops will receive a 1 gram free sample of the product. The mdma is a dark tan fine crystal. Dosages range from as low as 90mg to 150mg. Most people find 150mgs to be a little overwhelming though. I will have a picture of the product posted over the next few days also. If you have ever tried the Dutch "Moon Rocks" you will find that this product is actually superior in quality.
Pricing:
1/2 oz: $700
1oz: $1,100
4oz: $3,900
Picture of Product: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/gelman.jpg/
Silkroad Listing: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/187f51b732
DO NOT EMAIL ME AN UNENCRYPTED EMAILS. ALSO THE SUBJECT TITLE SHOULD NOT CONTAIN ANY INFO. A SIMPLE HELLO IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.
Please also include that you are from the silkroad in the body of the email so that I know where you are from.
gelman@lavabit.com
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Current Sample Recipients:
1. Mindman
2. ralph123
3. piy
4. madhatter
5.l1llykins
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Mindman was first on this list !
yeah i was the first one to message him. he told me everything was ago, and that he would have my dcn as soon as the list filled up. I come back and check if he sent my dcn, and all of a sudden the list is completely different. but i can see why he would want to put up free listings to get feedback. guess i missed out
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Hello everyone,
Sorry for the delay in the DCNs being active. They should activate by tomorrow or friday depending on the PO. I had some RL issues arise which prevented me from dropping your FREE samples for two days. Everyone who had an order placed through me should be receiving by this Monday unless you live out in the boonies. Over the weekend I will be re-writing my OP with a better explanation of my operations. Vending on SR is a new process for me and I'm still learning. I'm sorry to anyone who I promised a sample to, but then switched over to the order system. It just seemed to be a more appropriate to start my SR reputation. When people receive samples please post some reviews, I can't wait for you guys to try out this fantastic product, I've had many tell me it has truly enhanced their lives.
Peace and Love:
Gman
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No complaints here, Gelman, shit happens. Will give you a honest review the very day I receive it, and man am I looking forward to rolling my goddamn face off. Seems like you/your product already has a bangin reputation, no questions asked here...can't wait to try it, thanks again, I appreciate it.
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yeah np gelaman i am very thankful for this free molly sample :D
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No worries, good to know there was a delay and that it wasn't intercepted or something.
I might be late in being able to actually eat some if it doesn't come by this weekend. But I will have a reagent test and post pics for everyone as soon as it does!
Which test?
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which day did you send out the samples just wondering 8)
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Original post updated with how my operation will be run along with some new future products coming soon :)
Gman
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yeah sorry about that gelman i was new to pgp at the time
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ALD-52
I'm looking forward to seeing this on SR. This stuff is legal when produced in the non-LSD route, right? Or has that changed?
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If the "gelman" account does not turn out to be the DEA I will eat my hat.
You want 16 people simeltaneously? Each with a distribution-level quantity? Ok. No red flags there.
Standoffish tone? Mad about all the vendor communication work?
COPS are annoyed with paperwork. Not vendors opening the floodgates of money. Thats why real vendors are inherently courteous.
Deliberate typing mistakes for that "street" feel? Ya ok.
Whens the last time you heard the slang term "corner boy" outside of a nursing home?
That's not how real people talk.
in my alledged opinion
GELMAN = Drug Enforcemnt Agency
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If the "gelman" account does not turn out to be the DEA I will eat my hat.
You want 16 people simeltaneously? Each with a distribution-level quantity? Ok. No red flags there.
Standoffish tone? Mad about all the vendor communication work?
COPS are annoyed with paperwork. Not vendors opening the floodgates of money. Thats why real vendors are inherently courteous.
Deliberate typing mistakes for that "street" feel? Ya ok.
Whens the last time you heard the slang term "corner boy" outside of a nursing home?
That's not how real people talk.
in my alledged opinion
GELMAN = Drug Enforcemnt Agency
Shannon and Dominatrix are the only two people who have vouched for gelman, from what I can recall.
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*shrug* i didn't use the V word
i just said that if they are being honest about who their product is coming from (they didn't say it outright but i know from the ecstasydata link) then this'll be the best molly sr's had yet
Yeah, I'm not accusing either of you. I'm just kinda fucking paranoid, is all.
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If the "gelman" account does not turn out to be the DEA I will eat my hat.
You want 16 people simeltaneously? Each with a distribution-level quantity? Ok. No red flags there.
Standoffish tone? Mad about all the vendor communication work?
COPS are annoyed with paperwork. Not vendors opening the floodgates of money. Thats why real vendors are inherently courteous.
Deliberate typing mistakes for that "street" feel? Ya ok.
Whens the last time you heard the slang term "corner boy" outside of a nursing home?
That's not how real people talk.
in my alledged opinion
GELMAN = Drug Enforcemnt Agency
I'm going to have to agree. First, these prices are far too good to be true. Let's be realistic now. Dutch product has ALWAYS been cheaper than the domestic alternative for a one reason: it's simply harder to come by here in the States (especially at the purity they deliver). Individuals tend to say the DEA never targets buyers, but what if this is a widespread bust to "make an example" and show that it's not only the supplier they're targeting, but also the consumer. Why is Gelman willing to offer 1g samples for completely free, yet does not plan on any listings below 1/2 zip? Typically you don't see 1g samples just thrown around, and when dealing with MDMA, I have noticed there is always listings for lower quantities.
Read back earlier in this thread where Mossman asked quite a few questions:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35196.msg402358#msg402358
The first are completely valid, but that's irrelevant to the fact Gelman didn't even answer the questions himself. He acknowledged them, but no answer. Why is this?
Also, the influx of "the best" domestic MDMA is interesting (add in RainbowVomit). Throughout their threads they're talking private networks using slang no one uses, and while I am not tied to one myself, why are they referring to them here? Why reveal any type of 'source', or ETA's on product arrival? He also slanders and gets into arguments with individuals over petty drama. Why? Be a vendor and only a vendor. Be discrete, professional, and deliver your product. Details, no matter how seemingly insignificant and miniscule, are always incriminating unless used to somehow impress an unintelligent audience. The buyer does NOT need to know anything beyond whether the product is as advertised, and a vendor does NOT need to be partaking in community interaction when dealing with such weight.
Take a peak at this thread.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35680.0
This product is also very near what is being offered here by Gelman, but beyond that, what struck me odd at first is his inconsistency in pricing. His 1/8 listing is for $250, averaging about $70/g. Move up to the 1/2 at $600. You're dropping all the way down to $40/g on 11g? Typically you don't see such exponential price cuts, especially on product they have stated is 'the best SR has seen.'
Both of these vendors have also failed to ship anything. Gelman has evidently given DCNs, but no status. Rainbow is waiting until Thursday until his resupplier (even though he insinuates at buying direct in some of his posts) gives him notice before he ships. Why are you making listings for product you do not have in your person? That's a negative right there.
The biggest red flag for me is this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=31722.0
This thread arrived in such a timely fashion with these vendor's products. That's quite the coincidence, no? We have Holly, a reputable member, vouching for these individuals. But on what merit? Only his word? This isn't a dag at you, Holly, at all, but one good word is one word. Twenty good words from reputable individuals, now we're talking.
Now before you guys go and take your pitchforks and burn the proverbial witch, I am just noting MY paranoid observations to potential buyers. If these vendors do indeed come to be a reputable source, then slam on me all weekend on long and god knows I'm looking for a good domestic vendor myself. But in the meantime, be cautious when moving forward, gents. I would certainly appreciate a well thought out response from both of these individuals so happen they read it. Don't get thug on me and bash me - that doesn't help. Please explain. That's what the point of all of this is: to ESTABLISH yourself and then share the magic.
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If the "gelman" account does not turn out to be the DEA I will eat my hat.
You want 16 people simeltaneously? Each with a distribution-level quantity? Ok. No red flags there.
Standoffish tone? Mad about all the vendor communication work?
COPS are annoyed with paperwork. Not vendors opening the floodgates of money. Thats why real vendors are inherently courteous.
Deliberate typing mistakes for that "street" feel? Ya ok.
Whens the last time you heard the slang term "corner boy" outside of a nursing home?
That's not how real people talk.
in my alledged opinion
GELMAN = Drug Enforcemnt Agency
I'm going to have to agree. First, these prices are far too good to be true. Let's be realistic now. Dutch product has ALWAYS been cheaper than the domestic alternative for a one reason: it's simply harder to come by here in the States (especially at the purity they deliver). Individuals tend to say the DEA never targets buyers, but what if this is a widespread bust to "make an example" and show that it's not only the supplier they're targeting, but also the consumer. Why is Gelman willing to offer 1g samples for completely free, yet does not plan on any listings below 1/2 zip? Typically you don't see 1g samples just thrown around, and when dealing with MDMA, I have noticed there is always listings for lower quantities.
Read back earlier in this thread where Mossman asked quite a few questions:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35196.msg402358#msg402358
The first are completely valid, but that's irrelevant to the fact Gelman didn't even answer the questions himself. He acknowledged them, but no answer. Why is this?
Also, the influx of "the best" domestic MDMA is interesting (add in RainbowVomit). Throughout their threads they're talking private networks using slang no one uses, and while I am not tied to one myself, why are they referring to them here? Why reveal any type of 'source', or ETA's on product arrival? He also slanders and gets into arguments with individuals over petty drama. Why? Be a vendor and only a vendor. Be discrete, professional, and deliver your product. Details, no matter how seemingly insignificant and miniscule, are always incriminating unless used to somehow impress an unintelligent audience. The buyer does NOT need to know anything beyond whether the product is as advertised, and a vendor does NOT need to be partaking in community interaction when dealing with such weight.
Take a peak at this thread.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35680.0
This product is also very near what is being offered here by Gelman, but beyond that, what struck me odd at first is his inconsistency in pricing. His 1/8 listing is for $250, averaging about $70/g. Move up to the 1/2 at $600. You're dropping all the way down to $40/g on 11g? Typically you don't see such exponential price cuts, especially on product they have stated is 'the best SR has seen.'
Both of these vendors have also failed to ship anything. Gelman has evidently given DCNs, but no status. Rainbow is waiting until Thursday until his resupplier (even though he insinuates at buying direct in some of his posts) gives him notice before he ships. Why are you making listings for product you do not have in your person? That's a negative right there.
The biggest red flag for me is this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=31722.0
This thread arrived in such a timely fashion with these vendor's products. That's quite the coincidence, no? We have Holly, a reputable member, vouching for these individuals. But on what merit? Only his word? This isn't a dag at you, Holly, at all, but one good word is one word. Twenty good words from reputable individuals, now we're talking.
Now before you guys go and take your pitchforks and burn the proverbial witch, I am just noting MY paranoid observations to potential buyers. If these vendors do indeed come to be a reputable source, then slam on me all weekend on long and god knows I'm looking for a good domestic vendor myself. But in the meantime, be cautious when moving forward, gents. I would certainly appreciate a well thought out response from both of these individuals so happen they read it. Don't get thug on me and bash me - that doesn't help. Please explain. That's what the point of all of this is: to ESTABLISH yourself and then share the magic.
Me and Dom have same connect. I don't know why he says it's purple. It is a dark brown color. I gave away 10 free grams to prove this product is far superior to the dutch moon rocks. When the samples land and people review you will see I am not LEA. Dom's product is the same as mine but cheaper, so you'll just have to decide who you'd rather work with. I don't know the guy and don't have a problem with him. I just chose to do oz's since it is a nice easy amount to do with a good profit margin. Sorry? Also if you think I'm running out to go drop an oz off that some guy on SR bought you need more medications. Waiting for the 16 orders to fill provides me with the safest shipping methods for me own security. Anyway listed a lb right now and when it's filled i'll drop the packs. Always remember I don't list product i don't have on hand at that time.
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Also the corner boy reference is is from The Wire; Bodie Broadus 4 lyfe.
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I'm actually the FUCKING KETAMINE QUEEN OF ENGLAND! jut wait till monday and everyone will have their samples and all the FREEPER nut jobs will go away. Go read drudge or something you dumbfuck.
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relax g man
http://www.philsp.com/data/images/g/g_men_193802.jpg
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What's the significance of this picture^^? Don't worry bout these fuckers gelman. My mail is still running good
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I took next Wednesday off to review your product with some friends, can't wait! Just had some dutch rocks last week, so I should be able to give a fairly good comparison.
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Any of your DCNs get scanned in yet?
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nope not yet idc see why not every other dcn i had updated faster then this owell its all good im not in no rush
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The fact that all these people in the 'private scene' and the seller of the crystals themselves is in here vouching for this person makes me strongly question wtf is really going on here. u prolly all bout to go to jail. why else would they be vouching for some random scrub.
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Yeah spacecase, they're going to investigate every address, stake out the residence, obtain a search warrant using their concrete proof of a transaction on the encrypted Tor network, and finally bust us...oh man! Forget about the LE budget cuts, they gotta get these damn sample requesters and send a message! ::)
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Still waiting to see how this turns out. For now I have Ivory and GE though ;)
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My DCN is now activated and shows it being processed through a sort facility.
8)
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you got us, me, RV, fred, holly and gelman are the same person. let's pack it up and go home guys
Put your tinfoil hats on that's the only thing that's going to keep us away.
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Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office.
???
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Looks like someone beat me to bringing this here ;D I can vouch for the quality of this, best MDMA I've had in my life -- better than a lot of Euro stuff that is claimed to be 84%.
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The fact that all these people in the 'private scene' and the seller of the crystals themselves is in here vouching for this person makes me strongly question wtf is really going on here. u prolly all bout to go to jail. why else would they be vouching for some random scrub.
no I dont think that but it is kind of fucked up but I don't care. Just gonna watch how it plays out. I do see you guys tho
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im happy for you piy i hope the same happens for me :D
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Awesome lilly, I'm sure yours will show up soon lovestotrip. It's good they didn't all activate right away, indicates they weren't all dropped in the same box.
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The fact that all these people in the 'private scene' and the seller of the crystals themselves is in here vouching for this person makes me strongly question wtf is really going on here. u prolly all bout to go to jail. why else would they be vouching for some random scrub.
no I dont think that but it is kind of fucked up but I don't care. Just gonna watch how it plays out. I do see you guys tho
How is it fucked up that we're giving you guys prices and product you've never seen before?
This is how a chain works, this is how any legal/illegal business works.
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@dom well it's different then I have seen before on here with other stuff. I don't usually see that happening in other new vendor threads with other veteran vendors vouching for someone. I'll tell you tho that it comforts me in the sense that maybe this guy is legit. Plus, I couldn't give 2 piles of shits about a dcn because you know as well as I do that a dcn might or might not be accurate.
It's good to know that gelman is legit and I can't wait to see my product
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Listen,
Everyone needs to stop talking about this vouching shit. I don't know who any of these veteran SR vendors are that are vouching for me so don't take it as word of my work ethic. Supposedly we know similar people but I am independent on SR. Please only work with me from the history of the service I provide to SR. I will also only be accepting buy orders from buyers with strong history's. I'm assuming now that my DCNs are active and when my product arrives that people will see I am legit.
Thanks
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yeah i never doubted you seems everybodys dcn is active but mine ???
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Listen,
Everyone needs to stop talking about this vouching shit. I don't know who any of these veteran SR vendors are that are vouching for me so don't take it as word of my work ethic. Supposedly we know similar people but I am independent on SR. Please only work with me from the history of the service I provide to SR. I will also only be accepting buy orders from buyers with strong history's. I'm assuming now that my DCNs are active and when my product arrives that people will see I am legit.
Thanks
I was not really worried about you being vouched for gelman. I was one of the first guys to email you. Have you got my dcn yet?
I can't even believe that dominatrix even spoke to me. I'm in shock. But I have gained a few haters lately
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yehehe i want an ounce asap, ;D
mol likes this makes you see nice intricate patterns real earthy ones,
always feels like i just might start tripping... might have been the fact that the last time i did this kind of molly i took some shiva doses earlier in the day...
either way, super phenomenal roll very lucid, very ethereal feeling...
gelman will message you on this forum b/c im a bit confused about the directions to contact you...
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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is this the same guy that only has 1 OZ of molly at a time listed ............ thought he was a scam the second I saw his listings. Still think so. But you all will see in time, what I know now.
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everybodys dcn is active but mine wtf :-X
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everybodys dcn is active but mine wtf :-X
I never received one at all.
Don't worry about it though, it's cool. The thing with DCNs is that they are designed to be scanned once they reach their destination as proof of delivery. Sometimes they just so happen to get scanned when they first enter the system (and/or subsequent facilities), and other times not...but it's just not a priority for USPS the way it would be with scanning actual tracking numbers.
IME, sometimes you get lucky and you can use it as a substitute for tracking. Other times I have the order in hand before it's even registered. Sometimes it says it's out for delivery and it does not arrive until the following day.
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Dont worry about the goofs here.
Milk their no connection having asses for $250 1/8's and laugh all the way to the bank.
Gave out 10 grams as a sample so he's A COP ... lol ... yeah really tough to piece together $140 and $30 for shipping.
Half them dont even have the guts to write under their own usernames what they think ... how gutless is that ? Cant even back up their accusations on their ONLINE PROFILE ... they must be the biggest pussies IRL.
The product comes from Canada, it isnt hard to find up here morons.
So the reasons he is a COP - fair prices, gives free samples, domestic vendor, angry that people break his balls over free samples ( most of whom will not review the sample, just get high and move onto the next freebie )
Cant wait til school starts for all these little goofs so they have less time to spend on SR Forums.
Then you doofus' cry when there isnt more people willing to sign up and cater to your gram buying whims.
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Received. Will update after testing!
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i received mine to ;D just took like 100mg 10 mins ago will tell you guys how it goes edit
holy shit dude im rolling so hard this is fire stuff
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i received mine to ;D just took like 100mg 10 mins ago will tell you guys how it goes edit
holy shit dude im rolling so hard this is fire stuff
Awesome! I'm happy you got yours so quickly with the DCN being a bitch. DCN's are a tricky thing, but at least you usually know when it has arrived. Anyway, I have a lb up for sale in ounces. Once that goes, I'll list another 1-2 up. Please keep posting reviews though!
Gman
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WTF?! thanks gelman did not expect to get that. weighed out to 1.1g
sticky as hell, and smells like straight anise candy. slightly wet powder with a few rocks.
will update once my dose kicks in.
*stealth package
edit:
great roll, took around 150-175mg at time of last post. still feeling quite well. edit again when i can do a little focusing =)
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WTF?! thanks gelman did not expect to get that. weighed out to 1.1g
sticky as hell, and smells like straight anise candy. slightly wet powder with a few rocks.
will update once my dose kicks in.
*stealth package
I love it when I see genuine acts of kindness on SR. :) +1
That said, I hope it wasn't my sample :P
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WTF?! thanks gelman did not expect to get that. weighed out to 1.1g
sticky as hell, and smells like straight anise candy. slightly wet powder with a few rocks.
will update once my dose kicks in.
*stealth package
I love it when I see genuine acts of kindness on SR. :) +1
That said, I hope it wasn't my sample :P
yeah it was extremely nice. i was first on the list but thought i had been excluded from the festivities but i guess not =)
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Got mine today too. Very nice packaging, much respect Gelman.
What an incredible licorice aroma, a small whiff packs a strong punch...smells like a good time!
I need to finish some shit for work so I won't be able to consume today, but am eager to give a review within the next couple days.
Looking forward to the reagant test l1llykins.
Thanks again Gelman, looks like we got ourselves a very competitive domestic vendor.
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Ended up not arriving today. Oh well .. here's to monday!
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Received mine today. It smells alluring, it smells good, it smells like something I want to put in my body! Other than that, I don't have any feedback. Out of caution and because I don't have any reagent tests myself, I'll be awaiting l1llykins' tests before I consume.
Oh, and the packaging was good. :)
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I sort of kick myself for not waiting the reagents. This was a jagged roll most certainly, well I compare them to the red defqons. Even those were stinky pills, well at least more than most. IMO
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I sort of kick myself for not waiting the reagents. This was a jagged roll most certainly, well I compare them to the red defqons. Even those were stinky pills, well at least more than most. IMO
Dude you ate 175mg? That is nuts. I throw up at 150mg. This brown Crystal is much cleaner then the dutch rocks.a 200mg dutch roll is easily a 125mg. of the brown. There is no purer shit
then the canadian fine sand crystals. To make those big moonrocks they need to melt the mdma bringing it into the 75-80% range. Pure racemic mdma are small crystal sands like the samples I put out. This shit will have you rolling face at 140mg waaaay harder then 180mg of the dutch shit. If you take too much it can be overwhelming.and seem super stimmy, but it's so clean. You need to lower your dosages to 100-130mg oral. It is more then enough. I posted e/d data showing a gc/ms test showing pure mdma. In a few weeks, i'm gonna send a more up to date sample on e-data out of the NE instead of CA but it's the same shit showing that it is pure mdma, its just so fucking pure not to brag you need to be careful. I eat 80mg myself and will roll face.
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2489
This is not speed cut shit, just super strong. I'll have a domestic e-data report in the next month on the stuff I have on hand. While the moonrocks have the appeal, the cleanlines of the mdma makes people think it's super stimmy.Anyway remember I have 16 ozs, listed. As soon as those go I will be able to break down 2-3lbs between 1/2ozs and ozs. But for now let's get those first 16 filled and out. Everyone please this shit is stronger then the dutch, don't take more then 150mg orally. Anything more is gonna be overload for 99% of people.
Also keep dropping the reviews, they make me happy :). The samples go there way fasteer then I thought they would. Some good feedback on SR would be nice also. I'm here to stay if you guy want me too.
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http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=28972
This what ya talking about?
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you are not sending out "fine sand". you are sending out a wet sand cut with 50% amphetamine. If you knew it or not, i will not speculate, but just think people deserve to know.
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I dont think you ate 175mg Mindman.
If you did, your not being honest about the effects.
Shame on you for being such a pest about your sample then lying about it.
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you are not sending out "fine sand". you are sending out a wet sand cut with 50% amphetamine. If you knew it or not, i will not speculate, but just think people deserve to know.
You're a spineless coward. At the very least you should be able to back up your claims with evidence.
Mindman apparently didn't read the directions.
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Future Products:
ALD-52
any word on this? i love a good clean acid trip and have only read about ALD-52, never heard (even anecdotally) about anyone who has ever consumed any. i've read that it is not easy to keep stable, but easily would some balls be tripped if consumed lol.
your mdma sounds like a rockin good time, but i'm just no longer consuming substances that could get me fired if UA'd 8)
get some ald-52, though, and i might have to put you at the top of my btc shopping list < 3
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for all who doubt, i can say that i possibly took 150mg. i started with 100mg crushed in a small capsule. weighed out on a .01 accurate scale. i have not used mdma for about 2.5 weeks. i know my levels and i know my dose. the second part of my dose was around 50-75mg weighed on the same scale. im not sure why you doubt what i say? i compared these to a pill, A FINE DUTCH PILL that has a similar roll. it was jagged. so what if my tolerance is high? im not claiming to know all, just putting out my test for observation. i feel that i stayed within safe lines, maybe should have waited for the test, but none the less took steps with small dose (which took quite some time to kick in). i also do not deny that my chemical balance may a little out of whack due to precious use. i know try and follow safety rules concerning substance use. any way i never lied, im fine with the sample. it was a nice gesture. im excited to see where this mdma goes. as an end note, this sample was tried by other experienced users. who hadnt rolled in over a month. if there is anything i can do to better my report or further use please let me know because your opinion matters so much to me 8)
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You should have quite a bit left over. Try again at the recommended dosage, or have a friend try it at a recommended dosage.
I mean, Gelman hooked you up and specifically stated several times that 150 mg is too much and strongly advised that we take far less. Like 80-100 mg, MAYBE 125 mg for some.
He pretty much said "if you do 150 + mg, you're gonna have a bad time".
I'd try again and consider following those recommendations sometime after our reagent tests are posted tomorrow.
I'm really not trying to be an a-hole, but he couldn't have been more clear.
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You should have quite a bit left over. Try again at the recommended dosage, or have a friend try it at a recommended dosage.
I mean, Gelman hooked you up and specifically stated several times that 150 mg is too much and strongly advised that we take far less. Like 80-100 mg, MAYBE 125 mg for some.
He pretty much said "if you do 150 + mg, you're gonna have a bad time".
I'd try again and consider following those recommendations sometime after our reagent tests are posted tomorrow.
I'm really not trying to be an a-hole, but he couldn't have been more clear.
makes sense, but is it really the roll people are looking for? and my apologies for missing that dose for myself, BUT i can say that i DID have friends who dosed 100mg. In whole it was split seven ways. great setting, out side patio near a river. does some one have an explanation for the long come up? like i said in my original report i started with 100mg and waited for aprox: 1.25 hours and no major effects. at least what im used to, i thought there was no difference from color? thats what most threads say and vendors boast? i see that i must have brand name eyes, and only see the good old rock mdma, lab stuff. and yes some one mentioned, 'rave kid' dutch rocks got a name for a reason, everybody loves a good dutch bean? and those are made with dutch mdma?
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Mindman, how was sleep afterwards?
How did the people you shared it with respond? You said some took lower doses.
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I don't understand what you guys mean when you say that the roll was jagged.
Neither do I.
Is this good or bad?
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i was talking about red defqons.
IMO a jagged roll is not what im looking for. so to me its bad. this may make me, like i said into name brands or whatever but i love that classic dutch rock. the warm love, fuggin eye wiggles. and yes this is on all spaced doses, and at time with the dutch pills. the ferarris were a great example of the roll which is most enjoyable to me.
sleep was a little hard, this could have been to high dose so i will not hold credit to the mdma. as for friends sleep they said it was fine, two reported a difficult time, those taking 120mg
* i want to state that most who took these doses were over 6'3", i myself am 6'5" and around 220-230lbs. not little kids by any means. does this change aspect on my dose or those around me?
"its way trippy to say the least, felt on the verge of a sass roll, but not even close. in all honesty compared to last rocks (*is SR vendor and domestic, would it be slanderish or w.e to post name of said vendor?) this stuff is not as good" quote from one tester, a close friend. same size, slight athletic advantage. maybe 10lbs lighter
am i still of track? oh and is anybody mentioning a bad wash? am i way off to say that this could just be un refined or something like that. does it all need to be put through acetone? i am looking forward to those tests, as well as this to wrap up, some new findings lead me to believe that this was all a grab and go thing. maybe more needed to be put into it? i mean this is quite a large scale rush of 1 specific mdma? and damn its raising a lot of questions.
who was it who said they rolled hard a few post back? what was yours like, dose and such sleep? what did you do, stimulation and such, should setting be a factor? i usually think it can be.
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So how recently did you and other members of the NBA take dutch mdma? And were the doses the similar?
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So how recently did you and other members of the NBA take dutch mdma? And were the doses the similar?
i can see how thats funny, but uh around two weeks ago for me, they all varied, but said quote rolled on 120mg around a week ago, i can see his dose being to close to test but not by much. my dose was on chewed yellow f. not to high or fry brain stats?
dude im really not tryin to be a dick, just saying what i felt. its not even bad, just not what i expected.
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I am fine with people not believing me. But please refrain from insulting me. I did not insult the vendor, so why should a third party insult me? I am merely going by provenance, look, description by those who received it and the different stocks known to be coming out of Canada right now.
If people enjoy it, so be it, but I felt it my responsibility to at least let it be known. Amph can fuck up a night.
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You know why everyone is here talking up this mdma? Because it is shit and it won't sell anywhere else. They come here talking about how great it is because they think all the SR users are dumb enough to believe it. They just dumping their shitty product on you they can't get rid of, nothing more.
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You know why everyone is here talking up this mdma? Because it is shit and it won't sell anywhere else. They come here talking about how great it is because they think all the SR users are dumb enough to believe it. They just dumping their shitty product on you they can't get rid of, nothing more.
People have been buying it from Dom..... I've actually eaten the amp shit it is a lighter brown then this and is usually a nasty paste also it feels way different then this. I think I can understand mindman's jagged terminology. If you eat too much of this stuff it will come on harder and stronger then any other mdma you've ever eaten. It's not gonna be a mellow come up, but will hit you in the face like a train. It's why the prescribed doses are are so low in comparison too the moonrocks. I like the moonrocks too, but if you know anything about chemistry it is simply melted mdma, which without dropping the atmospheric pressure of the melting container results in decreased potency of the product. I'm sure if you decreased the potency of this product eating it at Dutch doses doses would produce the same come up. Once you're rolling through I've noticed no real difference in actual rolls besides this gives waaaay more eye wiggles then I've ever gotten on the Dutch, like I've had trouble walking on this shit. Which mindman said he didn't get which is weird. Anyway since mindman is the only one willing to review my product so far I wanted to thank him. I guess hopefully some other people will, I doubt no one ever does anywhere lol.
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I've been dying to review it if it ever arrives. Can you please provide me the DCN Gelman?
I planned on doing it over the weekend, then tonight, but I have nothing so far.
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I measured out 4x125 mg for me and 3 friends with 2x50mg boosters in case anyone needs them. So we all eat them around 10pm with orange juice and head out to show. We haven't eaten anything since breakfast. We arrive around 10:30 get ourselves settled, not really feeling anything at this point. 15 minutes later I'm getting that butterfly feeling in stomach can't really sit still so I have to get up. At this point I join my friends and I can't really stop smiling or dancing, typical MDMA feelings. Couldn't keep my eyes open and started clenching my jaw a little bit, music just sounded awesome. About 1 I hit my peak and decided to reload with a 50mg cap along with another friend. All of us were feeling good 50 mg booster really hit me well and just waves of euphoria. At this point I'm the happiest guy in the world and I can't stop dancing. In total it lasted about 4 hours and comedown wasn't bad with a smooth transition. I asked my friends what they thought about it and they all agreed it was good. I usually take about 160mg with 50mg booster so it was nice taking less this time, but still getting the same feelings. Less is more with this stuff and the 2 friends that didn't take the booster still felt it into the night. I vouch for these, and wouldn't be hesitant to order more. Packaging was really good (almost overkill), everything on weight, and prompt delivery. I'm 6'0 ~200lbs semi-experienced and try to space out rolls every 1-2 months
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No worries, le botbahn, I haven't received mine either. I think some of the others are waiting on my reagent test (later tonight assuming it's in the box when I check).
Nice l1ly, looking forward to seing that. Mine definitely didn't come today. Being Priority Mail, I thought it would have by today.
I don't have the triple reagents, but I did order an SR Marquis test specifically for this sample (I wanted to provide something more than a review in return for the generous sample). They should both arrive tomorrow at the latest, which I suppose is preferable.
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No worries, le botbahn, I haven't received mine either. I think some of the others are waiting on my reagent test (later tonight assuming it's in the box when I check).
Nice l1ly, looking forward to seing that. Mine definitely didn't come today. Being Priority Mail, I thought it would have by today.
I don't have the triple reagents, but I did order an SR Marquis test specifically for this sample (I wanted to provide something more than a review in return for the generous sample). They should both arrive tomorrow at the latest, which I suppose is preferable.
I got back to your email man, just hit me up by email and I'll make sure to get back to you. Lilly shoot me an email if your sample doesn't show.
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@gelman Should i be expecting a package.. cause I was on the first list and i know you changed some things around sample wise. Its no big deal but i was just wandering if you sent anything my way..thanks
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I measured out 4x125 mg for me and 3 friends with 2x50mg boosters in case anyone needs them. So we all eat them around 10pm with orange juice and head out to show. We haven't eaten anything since breakfast. We arrive around 10:30 get ourselves settled, not really feeling anything at this point. 15 minutes later I'm getting that butterfly feeling in stomach can't really sit still so I have to get up. At this point I join my friends and I can't really stop smiling or dancing, typical MDMA feelings. Couldn't keep my eyes open and started clenching my jaw a little bit, music just sounded awesome. About 1 I hit my peak and decided to reload with a 50mg cap along with another friend. All of us were feeling good 50 mg booster really hit me well and just waves of euphoria. At this point I'm the happiest guy in the world and I can't stop dancing. In total it lasted about 4 hours and comedown wasn't bad with a smooth transition. I asked my friends what they thought about it and they all agreed it was good. I usually take about 160mg with 50mg booster so it was nice taking less this time, but still getting the same feelings. Less is more with this stuff and the 2 friends that didn't take the booster still felt it into the night. I vouch for these, and wouldn't be hesitant to order more. Packaging was really good (almost overkill), everything on weight, and prompt delivery. I'm 6'0 ~200lbs semi-experienced and try to space out rolls every 1-2 months
look here, 125+50=175mg? the same that i took, why dont you ream this guy a new one? and perfect example 160mg plus 50mg booster? thats a fat dose as well. oh and 1-2 month spread? how well can you actually compare if your 1-2 months apart? ok so less is more and 175=210mg right? so this guys is saying that the same amount of mdma that is in the top ducth pill right now will only have you going for 4 hours?! because he did say that he went for 4 hours, or thats how long it lasted he claims. how can this be accepted? oh maybe because hes not a skeptic and really doesnt know what he talks about. another point for all to chew on, this guy couldnt stop dancing? hmmm sounds like speed to me, yes mdma will keep you going but isnt it about the love and euphoria that keeps you going? something like that, plus look at my setting, stimulation outdoors with good friends, to dancing hard and partying, seems like one would be able to determine the actual effects better when not so distracted especially on a substance. while dancing on may think "damn im going so hard" maybe its the speed? AND JAGGED? really you dont get that? i meant rough, my neck hurt, things seemed choppy, not smooth. simple websters. and i love how a bunch of CUSTOMERS, people who know nothing about the source are talking down on me. Canada's underground is very familiar to me, i choose to stay away because most of what comes from there is SHIT! except fot H of course. whats canada's favorite cheap drug? oh right speed, just think of all those speed pills? like cant anybody actually jump off the dick and think, and stop sticking up for a new rookie vendor that is charging out the ASSS for so/so mdma???
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@ Mindman- Ok dude, we get it. Jagged. Relax. If it was speed/meth it would have lasted longer and nobody would have slept, especially at such a whopping dose.
@Gelman, thanks!
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if you understood jagged, i wouldnt have been asked to repeat what i meant.
a whopping dose?! why must you all be so naive, i know i did not take to much. i took a high dose but nothing to be considered whopping. is 100mg oral, then 1hr 20 mins later takings 50-75mg really whopping?! And I took the extra dose because i didnt peak, and more caused me go over the limit. ??
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/09e4887b60
There, I've listed a bunch of $60 dollar grams. Let all of SR decide. I can only give so many away for free but I figured $60 is cheap enough for a bunch of people to at least try it since others besides mindman seem to like it. Also no one jump all over mindman just cause he likes the dutch rocks more. I'd agree there is a difference, but both are really high quality mdma and I think essentially you end up with the same roll. I'm well experienced with the general consensus of the dutch moon rocks since they were the only things I touched in the prior couple of years before recently recently switching to this. Like I said I can understand jagged on the come up if you take too much, but if you mean speedy like it was cut with amphetamines then I feel you've mistaken my brown for a much more tanner product that is cut with a speed paste. You cannot sleep on amp cut mdma.
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160mg plus 50mg booster? thats a fat dose as well. oh and 1-2 month spread? how well can you actually compare if your 1-2 months apart?so this guys is saying that the same amount of mdma that is in the top ducth pill right now will only have you going for 4 hours?
-Before this I rolled 1 month ago. I had a red defqon and that lasted about 3 hrs.
another point for all to chew on, this guy couldnt stop dancing?
-figure of speech
something like that, plus look at my setting, stimulation outdoors with good friends, to dancing hard and partying, seems like one would be able to determine the actual effects better when not so distracted especially on a substance
-how did your friends react?
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/09e4887b60
There, I've listed a bunch of $60 dollar grams. Let all of SR decide. I can only give so many away for free but I figured $60 is cheap enough for a bunch of people to at least try it since others besides mindman seem to like it. Also no one jump all over mindman just cause he likes the dutch rocks more. I'd agree there is a difference, but both are really high quality mdma and I think essentially you end up with the same roll. I'm well experienced with the general consensus of the dutch moon rocks since they were the only things I touched in the prior couple of years before recently recently switching to this. Like I said I can understand jagged on the come up if you take too much, but if you mean speedy like it was cut with amphetamines then I feel you've mistaken my brown for a much more tanner product that is cut with a speed paste. You cannot sleep on amp cut mdma.
why do you act like you have so much put into this? i question your actual involvement. have you even truly tested this batch? (because i KNOW that some involved, top dogs, havent even touched the stuff until yesterday) and speedy on the come up? no i never said that PLEASE ACTUALLY READ AND LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY, i took 100mg and fucking waited for over an hour, thats the supposed come up time is it not? at that point i said "damn this mdma really sucks, i am no where close to a peak" so i decided to take a mere 75mg more, AFTER MORE THAN AN HOUR. ????? I did things right, even dosed smaller than i normally would and you still jump all over me? and gelman im not saying i like dutch rocks more, im saying they are better.
*one last thing Gel, please tell me why my bag was WET. no a little moist, but my 'miracle sand' was literally wet. i had to scrape about .2 of sticky ass wet powder off the inside of the bag because of condensation. was any body elses on this level of wetness?
lucas,
so you rolled on the fucking pill i compared this mdma to? the stanky ass red defqons? was the roll similar to this? hmmm if it was looks like my fucking point was proven.
figure of speech? sounds like a description, these are drug reports used to widen the understanding of substance use. lets try and make them accurate. if you didnt 'dance' what did you really do? im confused, if you didnt dance why would you say that?
and i told you, in direct quote actually, how my friends reacted. ALL of this has been answered. fuck, they did NOT like it as much as most mdma out there. I had an order from spaceace not that long ago, EVERYONE said that Space's rocks were WAY better. they said this stuff was kinda grimey, and they missed the true roll feeling.
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Sorry man probably rubbing alch got into those bags when i wiped it for prints. I actually gave you botans sample going back on it now it makes sense lol. He was the last dude in the order and you kept asking first for one, that i took your drop instead of his. So I'm gonna send him a sample too, I was kind of sloppy when i switched it up. Also like I said no one is attacking you, I don't even know who space is but can we please keep vendors to their own threads. You don't need to go into other threads talking about me, don't come into mine talking about others. Like I said I wish more people would try it so im offering a bunch of cheap grams.
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@ Gelman: I'm happy to hear you pinpointed the issue. As before, I'm looking forward to reviewing. :)
@ l1ly: Thanks for describing the chain of rxn. For some reason I've had difficulty finding references specific for mixed reactions on the Marquis.
@ Mindmand: I was referring to the unfounded 50% amp accusations when I said "whopping dose" (ie- 87.5 mg amp is a whopping dose for any naive individual). For some reason, a few 1 post throwaway counts have proposed this with no evidence to back it up. That's what I was responding to.
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Sorry man probably rubbing alch got into those bags when i wiped it for prints. I actually gave you botans sample going back on it now it makes sense lol. He was the last dude in the order and you kept asking first for one, that i took your drop instead of his. So I'm gonna send him a sample too, I was kind of sloppy when i switched it up. Also like I said no one is attacking you, I don't even know who space is but can we please keep vendors to their own threads. You don't need to go into other threads talking about me, don't come into mine talking about others. Like I said I wish more people would try it so im offering a bunch of cheap grams.
well if you fill your orders like that then i suggest you learn how to dry. cause yeah you may have missed a few drops, but my product was SOAKED. ???
sorry i brought space into this, when i asked if i should keep his name out of this ( a few pages back) no one answered me. so whos fault is that?
and as far as the 50%amp theory i dont think i ever fully supported that? but ok thanks for the clarification
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c1918ece0fa32df7eadb7eab6606933b.jpg
The link above is a pic ( not a good one) of what I got from Gelman. Shipping was stealthy and vac sealed thank you Gelman. The molly has a very strong molly smell. I am waiting to borrow a friends scale but it looks a little heavier than a gram thanks again Gelman. I will come back to this thread after trying it.
Looks like we got a new honest vendor welcome to the Gelman
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c1918ece0fa32df7eadb7eab6606933b.jpg
The link above is a pic ( not a good one) of what I got from Gelman. Shipping was stealthy and vac sealed thank you Gelman. The molly has a very strong molly smell. I am waiting to borrow a friends scale but it looks a little heavier than a gram thanks again Gelman. I will come back to this thread after trying it.
Looks like we got a new honest vendor welcome to the Gelman
Let us know the dose you take and what dose you normally take ;)
I know for me it takes 100mg to roll balls off Ivory's MDMA but for someone else it might be 150mg.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/09e4887b60
There, I've listed a bunch of $60 dollar grams. Let all of SR decide. I can only give so many away for free but I figured $60 is cheap enough for a bunch of people to at least try it since others besides mindman seem to like it. Also no one jump all over mindman just cause he likes the dutch rocks more. I'd agree there is a difference, but both are really high quality mdma and I think essentially you end up with the same roll. I'm well experienced with the general consensus of the dutch moon rocks since they were the only things I touched in the prior couple of years before recently recently switching to this. Like I said I can understand jagged on the come up if you take too much, but if you mean speedy like it was cut with amphetamines then I feel you've mistaken my brown for a much more tanner product that is cut with a speed paste. You cannot sleep on amp cut mdma.
Any problem with people ordering 2?
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/09e4887b60
There, I've listed a bunch of $60 dollar grams. Let all of SR decide. I can only give so many away for free but I figured $60 is cheap enough for a bunch of people to at least try it since others besides mindman seem to like it. Also no one jump all over mindman just cause he likes the dutch rocks more. I'd agree there is a difference, but both are really high quality mdma and I think essentially you end up with the same roll. I'm well experienced with the general consensus of the dutch moon rocks since they were the only things I touched in the prior couple of years before recently recently switching to this. Like I said I can understand jagged on the come up if you take too much, but if you mean speedy like it was cut with amphetamines then I feel you've mistaken my brown for a much more tanner product that is cut with a speed paste. You cannot sleep on amp cut mdma.
Any problem with people ordering 2?
2 is fine, but no more then 2 per. They're supposed to be samples after all.
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Do you have any plans to ship international?
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Willing to wait for some more reviews from the samples to place an order...hopefully everything turns well for you buddy.
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Taking a small dose tonight, will get a review up here soon
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Ralphs' review will be pointless and everyone should know this by now. You could give the guy a piece of paper and he would give it a good review.
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Ralphs' review will be pointless and everyone should know this by now. You could give the guy a piece of paper and he would give it a good review.
And here mindman logs into space instead of mind lol. Stop spamming my thread. Me and dom get the same shit from the same people but no one one's in her thread saying her shit is cut with amp. This isn't cut MDMA.
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!!!!speed was suspected you ass hole never said it was for sure speed, and fuck you gelman dont even bring dom into this when you said a few pages back that you dont want her to vouch for you.
the thing that i said for sure AND my main point was that this had a shitty wash. not a clean roll. it prevents you from peaking as hard as dutch rocks. AND sass oil is dangerous as high levels, i dont want to lower my dose just because your chemist cant do a wash.
really i try to be a critic, an honest one at that. never pointing fingers, only questioning.
and maybe dom/RV are getting more respect because they arent charging out the ass for this stuff. just a thought.
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Angry troll is angry.
Thank you l1ly & ralph for your uploads!
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no im not angry, just want to warn people about this =)
either way, clean or not, gelman has been a pain to deal with.
before i even went on this rant i sent a few PM's gmans way just to talk about this product and pick his brain. he never replied to any of them so i decided i would tell people that he sucks as a vendor. at least to me, making him a selective ass hole?
any way other vendors offer the SAME product for way less, with better service AND you will not get mdma covered in fucking IPA!
(havent you ever heard of gloves??!!!) handle your product with gloves, its real simple and cheap.
LOVE LIVE GELMAN AND OVERPRICED VENDORS =)
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no im not angry, just want to warn people about this =)
either way, clean or not, gelman has been a pain to deal with.
before i even went on this rant i sent a few PM's gmans way just to talk about this product and pick his brain. he never replied to any of them so i decided i would tell people that he sucks as a vendor. at least to me, making him a selective ass hole?
any way other vendors offer the SAME product for way less, with better service AND you will not get mdma covered in fucking IPA!
(havent you ever heard of gloves??!!!) handle your product with gloves, its real simple and cheap.
LOVE LIVE GELMAN AND OVERPRICED VENDORS =)
Gelman and Dom have the best priced domestic at the moment by a long shot. Da fuq you talking about?
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no shit, i said gelman is over priced and kind of an ass hole
dom is not. she is greatly priced and a fucking angel to the customer.
i know they are the best. but gelman is 2nd best. thats all im saying end of story. im done with this thread
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Envelope received today, yes! Product smelled like root beer and had the consistency/dampness of brown sugar. It weighed slightly over 1g.
Here are my reagent test results:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=96fc9acf078ac4dafeb01ba4ff02651f.jpg
From left to right you'll find: mecke - immediate black / marquis - immediate black / simons - a dot of cobalt blue that spread to the rest of the solution in a few seconds (the simons B was a smaller drop than the A so I attribute it to that)
There were no dual color changes to these results. The reaction was immediate, fizzed black on both mecke and marquis. Note: this is the first time I had a result like this ... normally it fizzes green/purple respectively before darkening and not always to black, just really dark. I'm hoping this means that it's incredibly pure and that the reaction was just too quick/concentrated to see the green/purple before black. But as I said, it's the first result to come out like this so I can't say for sure.
In any case, I do not believe it is cut with speed.
My recommendation is to give it a go in small doses as recommended. I'm hoping I'll be able to try some this weekend ... still trying to figure out if the 25i trip I had last weekend would give me a tolerance issue.
@Gelman - feel free to use the pic in your listings ;D
Thanks lilly it's only a matter of time before people would clearly see I'm not selling speed cut shit lol. That's fucked up and in a marketplace like SR a horrible business practice.
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Ralphs' review will be pointless and everyone should know this by now. You could give the guy a piece of paper and he would give it a good review.
If I like it and everything else is good then yea I'll say good things. If a vendor does what they advertise then yea I give 5/5
Angry troll is angry.
Thank you l1ly & ralph for your uploads!
your welcome
Well I am off tomorrow but I tripped balls just last Saturday on some 25c so I am worried about cross tolerance fucking up my roll. My neighbor tried 100 mgs but he snorted it. I could see it taking effect on him and he said he was feeling it really strong. I'm going to go talk to him in a while lol
His scales sucked ass tho. First he was supposed to have had some digi's at his step dads house so we went there and ended up with a set of fucking carburetor scales and they showed a half gram with nothing on the hook. It was obvious that those scales were not worth using. I got 1.6 gram with baggy and with those scales a half g off to the plus side. I am adding a set of digital scales to my shopping list.
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this is some great molly everybody i gave some to loved it including myself also some of the best packaging i have ever seen and for a sample to gelman goes far and beyond most other sellers i have done business with will def order from again
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this is some great molly everybody i gave some to loved it including myself also some of the best packaging i have ever seen and for a sample to gelman goes far and beyond most other sellers i have done business with will def order from again
Thank You! :)
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This is indeed good molly and feels clean to me so far. I took a very small dose, eyeballing it looked so small I didn't think I'd reach threshold. I don't have a mg scale but the weight of the gelcap didn't even register on my gram scale. Kicked in rather fast, maybe 20 minutes before I got that smirky euphoria. Not planning on re-dosing, need to sleep tonight and will edit this report if I can't sleep. All signs point to good ol' MDMA to me, thanks Gelman.
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very nice :)
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oh I thought the feedback showed up after he got a few built up but I might be wrong
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Feedback doesn't show up if the listing was stealth. That's the problem.
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It looks like the tolerance for 25i is just a few days so I'm going to give it a go this weekend. Fingers crossed!
Come to think of it l1ly, a friend and I both did MDMA ~5 days after 25I NBOME last month There didn't seem to be any tolerance issues whatsoever. You should be good to go.
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I'm waiting. I have more 25c and can't do it either because I want to be sure it's not gonna be wasted. Same with the molly. I been waiting 3 or 4 days with the nbomes but even those are not very strong at the moment because my serotonin is very low. I mean, I been tripping on my days off for a month now. This waiting period sux. Wish I had some smoke or some pills lol but I have wasted some of the nbomes trying to trip to soon
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Yeah me too. I'm hoping my sample arrives in time for this weekend at least.
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Excellent packaging. Way beyond my expectations for a sample. I've never had Molly that smells this good before. The color and texture are really unique. Trying out some tomorrow with friends will report back.ur
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Closely following this thread.
I hope this is some good domestic Molly.
I wish the best of luck to you Gelman.
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OK.. Word to the distro folks.. PAY ATTENTION TO THE GELMAN :D
I don't usually mess with stuff that isn't somehow "neat". Folks local talk to me about the weird shit (ain't being on SR wonderful?). Anyway.. I chatted with Gelman in SILC and checked out his sample listing. Lots of folks grab Molly off SR
and dish it out to friends. I hadn't bothered too.
But this Gelman chap has a weird feel to his product. Solid vendor game (crypto, samples, personable, priority shipping)
and the product.. well it's *different*. If *different* is also *quality*.. that sounds like a potential money-maker to me.
So I give him a go. First off.. god almighty couldn't overcome this fellow's packaging without leaving a trace. Way way way over the top. This was my first indication something good was up..
The gram of Molly was the first mdma I ever saw that I immediately got stoned to *REALLY* smell it. This stuff is pugent, with a very pronounced licorice/saffrole smell to it. The consistency is also unlike typical mdma, it's more like brown sugar.
More of a "Crumble" than a "powder" or "hard little crystal". Pleasing aroma and nice look.. hmm me likee.
So I laid it on a couple of testers. Bumped them both (I like to see a nasal assay first) and they wound up lying all over the floor giggling on about 150 mg spaced out in two bumps 2-3 hours apart. Both these testers are seasoned and one swore it was the best he'd ever seen. It would have moved right then if I had offered it.
Next step is to gelcap some and feed it to out of town testers.. but at this point I have little doubt this product is AT LEAST as good chemically wise as good grade domestic MDMA. It might be moon-rocks quality.. but I gotta have more brains sampling it (gimme a few weeks).
Cosmetically wise however.. THIS STUFF ROCKS! This doesn't look like impure brown powder. Photos don't do it justice.. it's like licorice scented brown sugar. And that sort of thing has real buyer appeal.
Pretty sure this one is going to win me alot of happy heads :D
I'll report back when we REALLY roll off the stuff.
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Hey Gelman thank you so much for the generous sample. You are too legit to quit. Had to work like a dog today. It was all outdoor labor work. Helped my friend bush hog 5 acres of growed up thick stalked weeds and bushes and then after that we used a couple of chainsaws to cut down about ten trees but most of them were only like a foot in diameter and 30 feet tall. There were a couple that were 2 feet around and stood higher. My job today was to drag all the cut up limbs and lumber out of the way and stacked up in a neat pile.
Around 12:30 noon I decided to drop about 100 mgs give or take .05 because I had no good scales and I made up 10 piles from my gram. About an hour later I began to feel some much needed energy that helped me keep going the rest of the day. Around 2:30 or 3 o'clock I was rolling like a mother fucker and even passed on a j.
This is some good clean mdma. As I set in the truck smoking cigs on break I rolled pretty hard. When I got out and started working hard I felt so fucking good with waves of euphoria. I didn't have to run anything more dangerous then a weed eater today. Glad I had my shades because my pupils were big as quarters. I had snorted mdma a time or two but this was the first time I had eaten it and That's how I will do it from now on. It was really good and a clean high. I got home around 9pm and my pupils are still a little big but the come down hasn't been bad at all. The come up was not harsh at all but really smooth. I know I would have rolled harder if I wasn't working so hard in the sun. I drink tons of water and sweated ten pounds off me. On the way home the muscles in my legs and arms started cramping bad but this is due to the work for sure. I still have a lot of energy. Thinking about a redose. I know that I will eat at least 150 mgs next time. It allowed me to work without feeling tired or out of breath. I worked like a fucking dog and I know I will be sore tomorrow. Thank God I am off tomorrow so I may drop another 100 mgs
Thanks again Gelman your mdma is awesome and I'll be back for more
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I think ralph123 just provided manliest MDMA review the world has ever seen.
It's reassuring to know this stuff has the lumber jack seal of approval :)
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This might be a first on the road where molly was used to help with yard work, haha.
P.S. You'll have a tolerance so taking more tomorrow will only give you energy and no or little euphoria.
How long were you rolling for?
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hahahaha yea really le botbahn but I just wanted to be descriptive on my situation while rolling. I wasn't driving but on the way home the boss hit a new van in the ass and so we set there for over an hour while he had to sort all that out. It was killing me. We all told him to slow the fuck down but he ende up leaving skid marks 50 feet long but not much damage was done but the cop made my other friend drive the rest of the way because the original driver had suspended license and did not know it
This might be a first on the road where molly was used to help with yard work, haha.
P.S. You'll have a tolerance so taking more tomorrow will only give you energy and no or little euphoria.
How long were you rolling for?
about 5 hours of the intense part. Yea I am going to wait again so it doesnt get wasted plus I'll do it next time at home with some good music or I might go out, I dunno. MDMA is different. I really enjoyed that today. I felt so happy and warm. I liked it a lot. I will be getting more. The beauty of the outdoors was amazing. I had no negative thoughts or vibes enter my mind. It was all the feeling of love and being one with nature. I have also been sharing with friends who are impressed so I hope they wany more as well. It cost more then 60 a gram here and that's for shit product
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man i wish i had some bitcoins to order more
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Thanks to all those who provided reviews, I'm going to give the Gelman a go for my first SR adventure. I'll let everyone know how it goes in terms of transaction/delivery and do a Marquis upon arrival, but won't be able to give any "real world" experience results for a while as I've got limited windows of opportunity for fun like that. ;)
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This is definitely some fire MDMA. Very clean feeling, minimal jaw clenching even on higher doses, able to eat & sleep, able to function normal the next day. Surprised by how such a small dose gets me, absolutely amazing shit.
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Thanks to all those who provided reviews, I'm going to give the Gelman a go for my first SR adventure. I'll let everyone know how it goes in terms of transaction/delivery and do a Marquis upon arrival, but won't be able to give any "real world" experience results for a while as I've got limited windows of opportunity for fun like that. ;)
Well Ralph123 was able to test his at work. Maybe you can man-up and do the same :) j/k
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yea but I had all outside work which required very little mind use since I am a veteran at doing that kind of work and the only equipment I ran was a weed eater. I rolled hard while relaxing on breaks and during the breathers but when I was working hard it was just clean energy and euphoria. That was on 100mg for a 250 pounder at 6 foot 2 and I been doing drugs for 30 years now hardcore shit and all. Next dose I try will be 150 mg while not at work lol but I had a ball working and socializing with the farm owners. They had 16 pit bulls caged up and 4 more running lose. One was a red nose and was a burgundy color and acted like it was straight out of hell. It was barking and spitting shit as it barked, it's mouth was bloody from biting on the cage. It was in a speacial cage since it had ate it's way through the other cages. I bought got hit by falling trees a number of times. I got scratches all up and down my arms and thorns stuck in my cuticles. Gelman's mdma was fucking great I had a blast doing that kind of work while rolling
oh and did I mention I wore sunglasses all day
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So Gelman and Dominatrix have the same connect? Hmmm...who has a better deal going?
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well last time I looked doms lowest listing was 3 g's that worked out to a little over 70 per gram and don't gelman have 60 dollar grams?
eazyjet has 40 dollar grams but that's from spain but i think all his shipments to usa have been 100% and to east coast 4 days but I want to stay with in usa so I think doms ounces were 100 dollars less than gelman but I might be wrong
Listen everything is good and I have love for all but come on, I have a 6th sense here, I may say some stupid shit sometimes and act retarded at time but come on, one of you fuckers is Gelman
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well last time I looked doms lowest listing was 3 g's that worked out to a little over 70 per gram and don't gelman have 60 dollar grams?
eazyjet has 40 dollar grams but that's from spain but i think all his shipments to usa have been 100% and to east coast 4 days but I want to stay with in usa so I think doms ounces were 100 dollars less than gelman but I might be wrong
Listen everything is good and I have love for all but come on, I have a 6th sense here, I may say some stupid shit sometimes and act retarded at time but come on, one of you fuckers is Gelman
I think ever since the tony scandal and SKYY/Noreiga going rogue everyone wrapped themselves in tinfoil (including me), I'll stick to good ol' Ivory and GE for now. Gelman and Dominatrix just get hate on so much for no reason, not sure why, maybe because they're new? I'll keep an eye out on these guys/gals and see how it goes.
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well last time I looked doms lowest listing was 3 g's that worked out to a little over 70 per gram and don't gelman have 60 dollar grams?
eazyjet has 40 dollar grams but that's from spain but i think all his shipments to usa have been 100% and to east coast 4 days but I want to stay with in usa so I think doms ounces were 100 dollars less than gelman but I might be wrong
Listen everything is good and I have love for all but come on, I have a 6th sense here, I may say some stupid shit sometimes and act retarded at time but come on, one of you fuckers is Gelman
I think ever since the tony scandal and SKYY/Noreiga going rogue everyone wrapped themselves in tinfoil (including me), I'll stick to good ol' Ivory and GE for now. Gelman and Dominatrix just get hate on so much for no reason, not sure why, maybe because they're new? I'll keep an eye out on these guys/gals and see how it goes.
Dom gets hated on cause he promises you the world for 2 months then comes back selling grams and ounces of one product. Don't forget about the false advertising as well with apb bs being sold as xtc. (don't care what blue light says the majority here agree that mdma/mdea/mda are xtc)
people hate on this guy because he's selling the same shit from the same people and they came here vouching for him so now the dom haters are now this guys haters.
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I been watching ivories threads very close. He's got great feedback and great prices. I am worried about over seas ordering even tho a lot of his feedback says 6 days to east coast where I am at which is great but with my luck it would take 25 days or get seized. I don't mind to wait a little bit of time I mean, after all, if you get your script from a pharmacy, you can't get it refilled til the next month anyway so it's cool as fuck to order some pills and then be able to re-up as soon as you run out. I think the whole fucking internet should run anonymous but let's be honest, the TOR browser aint exactly anonymous but it helps to use pgp for sure. Even silk road admins can't encrypt what you are saying to each other.
Hey I been using the silk road and forums for a while now. About 6 months if you count all the usernames I been thru. I have gotten to the point where I can tell by certain people's responses and questions that I have become known and had an impact. I can tell that people are starting to fuck wit me and test me out with their ideas to see how I will react. I am really glad of this. It's taken a long time to break the ice. Some people may hate me. Some people may find it more interesting having me around. Some people already know how to push my buttons to get me all water eyed. To me, all this is great. I love all you guys. I'm gonna lay down and watch a movie. I am zoned out on V's right noew. Good Night.
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Any orders in by this Sat night will be going out monday night thank you.
Listing half ozs in a few hours also.
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Cool, trip report from me will be in later this weekend, giving hubby some too so it should be a good night!
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Any orders in by this Sat night will be going out monday night thank you.
Listing half ozs in a few hours also.
Thanks for the update!
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Swallowed 200 mgs at 1 am. I am pretty much blistered and rolling like a motherfucker right now. I am enjoying it
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Any orders in by this Sat night will be going out monday night thank you.
Listing half ozs in a few hours also.
Still waiting....
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1/2 oz:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/3ce546a1ab
1/4 oz:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/account/listed_items
Sorry added the 1/4 oz and option also. I'm moving the deadline back too Sunday night. Also added the 1/4 option, which is basically the same price as the sample grams. If you want an 1/8th just buy 4 sample grams or something, no point in listing it.
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Sorry it took so long to get back and write a review, had some computer issues.
Last week me and 5 friends decided to test it out. 4 of us started with 125mg pills and 75mg snorted bump ~1hour into it while the other two just snorted their whole 125. One thing I have to say, this stuff is stank. I've had large quantities of MDMA in my possession before and all I can say is this small vial of powder smelled more than entire jar of some of the dutch stuff. Like a nice rootbeer, licorice, anise, whatever you want to call it. Pretty intense, almost intoxicating. I did notice that this seemed a little, how do I say it, wet? Not liquidy or gooey, just a little pastey. Doesn't make it stick to everything though, so no issues with that just different than what I am used to. The taste was incredibly strong. I held it under my tongue for just a few minutes and had to swallow, which was probably a bad idea in hindsight. Imagine the smell, with the bitter taste of MDMA. Just overwhelming my mouth and sinuses. I think it was probably a half hour constantly sipping something before I got the wretched taste out of my mouth (I'm a pussy when it comes to chemical taste. I'm not Shulgin). That was just the start, it came on slow and at the 1-1.5 hour point I was feeling like some more. Attempted to chop up a line, but upon crushing instead of a powder I got a patty. Chopped it up with a razor as fine as I could and down the shoot. Again, I can't tell you how overwhelming the smell is. No burn whatsoever, just a slight rushing feeling across my face and I was shot into high gear. I don't think it was as intense as it could have been, but a week prior I had sampled some of EZJet's MDMA (which are some fire moonrocks, I might add) so I think I will chalk it up to tolerance for now. In all honesty, it is good pure molly, but I think I preferred Pfhandleiher's MDMA(which I also liked better than dutch moonrocks) to this. Maybe I just need to give this stuff a shot with no tolerance, for now though that is honestly what I think.
Thank you very much Gelman for giving me the chance to sample your wares, as far as domestic molly goes I think you are the man to go to.
(P.S. do you think you could cancel my order before it auto finalizes? I cannot get into my account right now[and might not be able to in time] and was hoping it wouldn't fuck up my stats. If you don't read this, or want to do it, that's okay. Just thought I would ask)
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yeah this mdma blows away the rolls by a million times cant wait to buy more.
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Lily & lovestotrip you make me silly with anticipation.
It looks like this delayed gratification will be oh so worth it :)
And Gelman's new listings are looking pretty damn attractive...
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I love this stuff man. I got to get more asap. It is fucking amazing. I'm gonna have to sell one of my fucking cars
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Any orders in by this Sat night will be going out monday night thank you.
Listing half ozs in a few hours also.
Hopefully my order made the cut for Monday :)
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Wow, feeling too good to write up a full trip report right now but very quality stuff. I'm so filled with love I feel like I haven't tried real MDMA until now. I mean, wow.
Are you saying this is the best MDMA you had to date ?
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Wow, feeling too good to write up a full trip report right now but very quality stuff. I'm so filled with love I feel like I haven't tried real MDMA until now. I mean, wow.
Are you saying this is the best MDMA you had to date ?
Yes, best MDMA to date which is saying a lot because I've been spoiled on premium dutch stuff since my first roll. Even SuperTrips mdma was average compared to what I'm used to and everyone says it's fire.
One thing unique about this one was I didn't need any ghb to help me sleep afterward. I found myself falling asleep around +6 hours. I also woke up feeling great.
Trip report coming, must spread the word on the main mdma forum first.
@Gelman, thanks for moving the deadline over! You'll find my order was placed a few minutes ago, hehe.
Haha told you so ;D
I'll never touch other mdma again... i hope :-[
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ya dude im gonna get me a couple grams more of it asap shits heaven in a bag son
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Yea I hope he's still got some by the time I get some more coin. I am completely turned on by it so I will be buying it from him or somebody but hopefully him because I trust Holly and the rest when they say it's the best
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yeah dude i took about 100mg and i rolled harder when i took 2 150mg rolls lol.
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Got my order for a few Gs in, (hopefully) just in time.... can't wait to try this stuff!
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Dam I wish I had 80 bucks to throw in my account right now. I'd love to have another 200 mg dose. That was fucking awesome as hell. That was my first really hard roll with mdma and I am sold. I may actually have it in the next couple of days. What makes me mad is I shared some with a couple of people I mean after all it was a free sample and I wanted to share it so I could get some people to go in on another order. I wish I had been greedy now hahaha but I did half Of my gram
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Alright, here's my trip report from last night. We started earlier than we normally do since peak times ranged between 2-3 hours.
6:00 - dissolved 80mg into juice and drank
6:15 - energy building up, feeling like I want to get up and do something, decide to put on some music and dance a bit
6:20 - definite mood lift, music sounds awesome
6:30 - can't sit still, eyes starting to roll back slightly, starting to sweat, very aroused
6:40 - jaw tension, some eye wiggles, some muscle tension, steady euphoria settling into my muscles
6:52 - drank 1g ghb to ease the eye wiggles, feeling VERY loved up
8:00 - hubby starts rolling and moaning, I'm euphoric but not quite rolling
9:00 - 20mg bump to try to get me rolling but I knew it was likely too late by then
10:00 - we decide to add some 2c-b since we never had the combo before and Shuglin highly recommends it. We took a full dose but likely only needed half, haha. It was like the combo boosted both the 2c-b affects and the mdma. We tripped hard but it finally had me rolling during the moments I came back to reality. I spent the next few hours losing myself in hubby and don't really remember the specifics of that, lol. We were both completely lost but in a good way.
midnight - we notice that we were starting to fall asleep and decided to go to bed after our post-loading supplements. We were still tripping and it took us a few tries before we succeeded in getting up to postload, hehe.
7am - woke up after a very peaceful sleep, feeling physically great, wonderful afterglow
NOTES: 80mg wasn't enough to get me rolling but it was still my most therapeutic, loved up, and emotionally euphoric session with mdma. It felt speedy in the beginning but after about +1 hours, I setteled down and was consumed with feelings of love and wholeness. I'll be going for 100mg next time with a 30mg bump at 1.5 hours. I was able to buy a decent amount but wish I had more coins, haha. Hopefully he'll still be selling grams by the time I need to restock though that wont be for a long while.
Good report, sounds like genuine mdma to me! Let's see how this workout because apparently Gelman and Dominatrix have the same supplier so I'm sure they'll be competing for customers with specials ;)
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update: My neighbor just gave me back the 100 mgs I gave him because he was scared of it Yahoo! Just ate it too.
Really Lilly? Dam I hate those tolerance issues
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update: My neighbor just gave me back the 100 mgs I gave him because he was scared of it Yahoo! Just ate it too.
Really Lilly? Dam I hate those tolerance issues
It doesn't have anything to do with tolerance. When you take mdma, it depletes your serotonin levels and takes a month for your supplies to be properly replenished. Frequent use can result in serotonin syndrome, depression, anxiety, a complete loss of being able to roll ...
Once a month is a good rule of thumb but every few months is better. It's not to say you can't get away with taking it a few times a month on occasion but extended frequent mdma use can cause more trouble than it's worth. Do an old woman a favor and research mdma affects and serotonin before deciding whether or not to roll again in a few days. :)
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update: My neighbor just gave me back the 100 mgs I gave him because he was scared of it Yahoo! Just ate it too.
Really Lilly? Dam I hate those tolerance issues
It doesn't have anything to do with tolerance. When you take mdma, it depletes your serotonin levels and takes a month for your supplies to be properly replenished. Frequent use can result in serotonin syndrome, depression, anxiety, a complete loss of being able to roll ...
Once a month is a good rule of thumb but every few months is better. It's not to say you can't get away with taking it a few times a month on occasion but extended frequent mdma use can cause more trouble than it's worth. Do an old woman a favor and research mdma affects and serotonin before deciding whether or not to roll again in a few days. :)
Mrs Shulgin?
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Mrs Shulgin?
Oh I wont be in my 80's for a while, hehe.
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update: My neighbor just gave me back the 100 mgs I gave him because he was scared of it Yahoo! Just ate it too.
Really Lilly? Dam I hate those tolerance issues
It doesn't have anything to do with tolerance. When you take mdma, it depletes your serotonin levels and takes a month for your supplies to be properly replenished. Frequent use can result in serotonin syndrome, depression, anxiety, a complete loss of being able to roll ...
Once a month is a good rule of thumb but every few months is better. It's not to say you can't get away with taking it a few times a month on occasion but extended frequent mdma use can cause more trouble than it's worth. Do an old woman a favor and research mdma affects and serotonin before deciding whether or not to roll again in a few days. :)
It's too bad kids nowadays don't read and just swallow pills every weekend like candy. Once every month is a good rule but did you know for a full reduction in damage it takes more than three months?
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I don't think anyone discovering mdma with Gelman's stuff is going to be ready to stop for a couple of months because I or anyone here said so. Hopefully he'll do his research and eventually taper down to 4x per year.
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I dropped everyone's order who had it in on time today. Expect the packs to arrive between Friday and Monday. Next ship date is this upcoming Sat.
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I don't think anyone discovering mdma with Gelman's stuff is going to be ready to stop for a couple of months because I or anyone here said so. Hopefully he'll do his research and eventually taper down to 4x per year.
Thanks for the info.. Yea I'll take your advice and wait a while. That last 100 mgs was good tho plus I mixed it with 2 25i tabs. I got some 25c now but I know better then to waste it now until I wait a week at least. With all this waiting between times I'm gonna have to get some weed or something. Maybe some pain pills. I don't really do benzos. You ever met a big dude who feels like shit after taking xanax? That's how i am. May try to get some coke. I still want to get some of gelman's molly so I'll have it when I am ready and before he runs out. It's so boring being sober. I got to work anyway. But I got the kind of job where I can smoke weed on breaks or do whatever. I dont drink.
By the way Mrs Shulgin I am no spring chicken at 42 years young you know what I mean?
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I have some extra ketamine so I'll be listing that over the next 24 hours. This is a one time thing though. The kitty is fire, mixed isomer, none of that salt cut shit. It's gonna be listed in 1/8ths, 1/4ths, and 1/2 ozs.
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It's so boring being sober.
Sobriety is definitely over-rated. Lucky you like weed, I can't stand the stuff though I keep hearing about how it makes most psychedelics AWESOME.
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yea it really intesifies it. It's great when you know your on your way on the come down and smoke some weed and it picks right back up. What don't you like about it? I'm assuming it's the smell
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I don't know if shes talking about rolls, but for trips, it definitely turns a whole new page.
This thread is great advertising! Wondering how limited the MDMA supply is... think.will it last another few weeks?
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yea it really intesifies it. It's great when you know your on your way on the come down and smoke some weed and it picks right back up. What don't you like about it? I'm assuming it's the smell
It actually makes me sick to my stomach and my normal trip preloading doesn't seem to help (drammamine/tums). And yeah I was talking about trips in keeping them going and making them soar.
@derived29 I think Gelman plans to keep this one in stock, but he previously mentioned only wanted to stick to selling them by the oz in the future.
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lol how can you not like weed that makes no sesne lol.
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got my half oz. in today and it smells delicious. I won't be able to test it for a few days, but I have no doubt it is potent just based on a small taste test and the smell.
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lol how can you not like weed that makes no sesne lol.
I know what you mean. I have ran across many people who dont like it tho. Usually ladies just dont like the smell but I love the smell. I dont understand why the whole usa dont vote for Ron Paul lol
Yea lily I have known people who get sick from it also. I know that we are all different and different things effects us all differently. Ritalin makes me ill and so does xanax. I dont know why on the ritalin because I love most uppers especially coke and molly and meth but I haven't touched meth in over a year.
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It looks like all my orders are landing quickly this time. Remember anyone who gets their order in by Sat 8PM EST will make the next shipping date of Monday (9/3). I updated the first post with clearer instructions for ordering. I also listed 1 gram and 1/8ths of ketamine with links in the first post. I also listed 1/8ths of molly but will no longer be selling single grams.
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"""As for it's appearance the dark brown is a left over reagent from the original synthesis that began with safrole. that the chemist refuses to clean. It also gives the mdma a very potent safrole/licorice scent. The appearance is far different from the moon rocks, because the moon rocks are put into a chemical oven and melted into large blocks. MDMA is a racemic chemical which is why this mdma is a fine crystalline sand with slight larger chunks."""
AS A CHEMIST, I saw this molly and immediately became suspicious. NUMER 1, the dark brown appearance is from left over reagent "that the chemist refuses to clean", if the lazy chemist began with safrole and didn't take the time to clean the final product then chances are likely he didn't take the time to clean intermediate products as well. May I remind everyone that safrole is a potent carcinogen, a product this dirty is almost certain to contain unreacted precursor. "It also gives the mdma a very potent safrole/licorice scent", I'm sure it does, this absolutely supports my suspicions, the final product is dirty as fuck and still contains precursor safrole, ever smelled safrole???, if so, then you will agree with me that that smell is not potentiated by the molly but by unreacted precursor safrole or mdp2p2.
NUMBER 2, "moonrocks" of good clean molly are made by recrystalization and yeild pure white opaque-ish clear crystals, "moonrocks" of dirty products are melted down and allowed to cool and solidify into brown, red, black, green, whatever the fuck the color of the dirty product was before melting. Good clean molly can be made into huge moon rocks by melting and cooling also, but those big rock will also be white opaque-ish and clear.
MDMA isn't hard to make, getting ahold of the equipment and chemicals is way harder than doing the job. Alot of "chemists" making mdma, mostly first timers or lazy assholes that don't care about their customers, will synthesize a product containing mdma without purifying the product because they don't wanna lose weight or they're just too excited to have product and say fuck it, its got mdma in it let sell it!
Obviously the proof is in the pudding, but you guys have got to ask yourselves before buying this ugly shit---Do you want the pudding, or do you want the proof?
PURITY=HARM REDUCTION
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"""As for it's appearance the dark brown is a left over reagent from the original synthesis that began with safrole. that the chemist refuses to clean. It also gives the mdma a very potent safrole/licorice scent. The appearance is far different from the moon rocks, because the moon rocks are put into a chemical oven and melted into large blocks. MDMA is a racemic chemical which is why this mdma is a fine crystalline sand with slight larger chunks."""
AS A CHEMIST, I saw this molly and immediately became suspicious. NUMER 1, the dark brown appearance is from left over reagent "that the chemist refuses to clean", if the lazy chemist began with safrole and didn't take the time to clean the final product then chances are likely he didn't take the time to clean intermediate products as well. May I remind everyone that safrole is a potent carcinogen, a product this dirty is almost certain to contain unreacted precursor. "It also gives the mdma a very potent safrole/licorice scent", I'm sure it does, this absolutely supports my suspicions, the final product is dirty as fuck and still contains precursor safrole, ever smelled safrole???, if so, then you will agree with me that that smell is not potentiated by the molly but by unreacted precursor safrole or mdp2p2.
NUMBER 2, "moonrocks" of good clean molly are made by recrystalization and yeild pure white opaque-ish clear crystals, "moonrocks" of dirty products are melted down and allowed to cool and solidify into brown, red, black, green, whatever the fuck the color of the dirty product was before melting. Good clean molly can be made into huge moon rocks by melting and cooling also, but those big rock will also be white opaque-ish and clear.
MDMA isn't hard to make, getting ahold of the equipment and chemicals is way harder than doing the job. Alot of "chemists" making mdma, mostly first timers or lazy assholes that don't care about their customers, will synthesize a product containing mdma without purifying the product because they don't wanna lose weight or they're just too excited to have product and say fuck it, its got mdma in it let sell it!
Obviously the proof is in the pudding, but you guys have got to ask yourselves before buying this ugly shit---Do you want the pudding, or do you want the proof?
PURITY=HARM REDUCTION
OK well I have ten gram moonrocks that were brown that blew me fucking away and smelled like sassyfrass like you said... I think we know the vendor I'm talking about lol..... but also I have had pure clean white crystals that stunk of sassyfrass more than the brown shit so how do you explain that?? LOL i'm sure some people know that vendor as well even though hes gone :(
Not saying I don't believe you man just saying I've had amazing brown that stunk and also amazing white that stunk just as bad and was just as good??
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I didn't say molly doesn't smell like sassafras, it does, but the vendor claims his product wasn't cleaned to make it stinkier. That was my point, of course it's gonna be stinkier if its unclean cuz it's gonna likely contain unreacted precurcors. You don't have to be a chemist to tell that that is some of the nastiest looking shit that's ever been called MDMA. I've had fire molly that was tan, and shitty molly that was white, but I've never had clear white crystal molly that wasn't fire. In most cases MDMA is racemic which is optimum for the best molly, but it is possible that a synthesis could yeild a very large percentage of Levorotary-MDMA and small percent dextrorotary-MDMA then clean up to a pure white crystal and be some of the shittiest molly you've ever taken while appearing to be top notch. You could have pure white molly cut enough to not smell like sass at all and then melted and cooled into moon rocks. There are variables when making molly but one indisputable fact is that color=impurity in MDMA, whether it be tan green, black whatever the fuck color except clear/white.
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Yes ... please be suspicious ... and don't buy ...
... seriously, more for us! 8)
Honestly, have you read the reviews? You can provide documented proof that it will make our skin fall off and we'd still buy and eat it.
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Sorry, kinda misread your question. I can't answer that question because your opinion of the smells between a bag of brown you had once and a bag of white you had once is subjective. The white you're talking about I think was SKYY's, which I had and remember it was pretty much the best I've ever seen, but I don't remember how it smelled. I wish that guy would come back, goddamn that was firey shit!
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Yes ... please be suspicious ... and don't buy ...
... seriously, more for us! 8)
Honestly, have you read the reviews? You can provide documented proof that it will make our skin fall off and we'd still buy and eat it.
LOL that's the brutal truth
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Gelman is legit for sure. I haven't sampled the product, but did a reagent test and it fizzled and blacked out completely in about 2 seconds. His packaging is amazing and the weight was spot on. I'll be using him again without hesitation
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Hey guys got my first blackmail. Looks like beer4me doesn't like me.
"U must pay $100 or your scam is over"
"YOU are a scammer. You modified the prices to super low prices then made your feedbacks yourself. Either pay me $100 or I will go directly to the SR fraud team and you will be done. You have 2 hours."
-beer4me
Anyway I hope the SR fraud team is better then America's! Also I saw someone took the plunge with the K! Awesome you won't be disappointed. I forgot monday is labor day (duh) so the next drop will actually be going with tuesday's mail (9/4). And I'm extending the deadline until sunday 8pm est.
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What? It doesn't surprise me. Somebody told me that they were going to the authorities if I didn't give them bit coins. I told them to go ahead
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$100 ?!?!? When you have single listings alone at $1000-$1100
lol ... who is this guy, Dr. Evil.
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Received my sample, and let me just say that you went above and beyond G-man. I'm trying it tonight.
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Speaking of beer4me, I was JUST perusing the mdma listings and noticed he is back and has several new listings before stopping here.
Upon looking at them closer I thought to myself "this guy seems to be a genuine retard".
Everything about him is sketchy. From his outdated and useless images from earlier this month, to his laughable claims of "mdma production in a multiBILLION dollar lab by students under PhD supervision" or something of that effect. Yeah buddy, sounds legit! MDMA University makes the best shit!
His pricing makes 0 sense, and his name ("beer4me") is so unoriginal and lame that it raised a red flag from day 1.
What an assclown....
Anyway, big thanks to you Gelman for delivering like a boss! I received my order (and original sample) yesterday and I couldn't be happier our transactions. I like his style. He tells you exactly whats up in the beginning so you never have to wonder what's up.
If you follow his instructions and read his updates then there's no ambiguity left for the buyer.
My order arrived in less than 3 days, nice discreet and very secure packaging. Lots of care went into that.
Strongest sass odor I've ever encountered. You could use this stuff as an air freshner :) Pure anise.
Gelman's photos just dont do this stuff justice. What I received looked exactly like Dom's pictures (same batch). Just a ol' big pile of brown rocks and smaller chunks, varying shades of brown when intact.
Weight was quite generous, as was Gelman's way of making up for the mixup of my original sample (which was completely unnecessary but appreciated immensely!). For the record, product was completely dry.
Marquis test went from dark purple to black instantly, followed by violent fizzing with trace smoke.
Two of my buddies did a test run last night with 125mg each. I havent had time to discuss it with them much but they did confirm 4hr amazing rolls.
Not bad considering both are heavyweights.
It got the seal of approval :)
My schedule is crazy for the next few days but I'm eager to try it, so...
Drawing inspiration from Ralph (the badass who tested out his sample on the job while operating a chainsaw), I'm planning on (possibly) spicing up the nightshift later. :) Hopefully. Either way I'll report back with my 2 cents within a couple days.
One more thing about the color of this stuff (since it's been subject of debate)...this should put your MDMA xenophobia to rest about Gelman's product:
When I crushed up these rocks in order to encapsulate a few doses, I was surprised by the change in color. These rocks are varying shades of dark brown to black...but when crushed up it all takes on a more uniform and familiar light brown, similar to brown sugar. The black literally vanishes. And it seems that the finer these grains get, the lighter it becomes.
For those still suspicious of the color, I'm with L1ly here: don't buy it, you'll save more for us!
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Speaking of beer4me, I was JUST perusing the mdma listings and noticed he is back and has several new listings before stopping here.
Upon looking at them closer I thought to myself "this guy seems to be a genuine retard".
Everything about him is sketchy. From his outdated and useless images from earlier this month, to his laughable claims of "mdma production in a multiBILLION dollar lab by students under PhD supervision" or something of that effect. Yeah buddy, sounds legit! MDMA University makes the best shit!
His pricing makes 0 sense, and his name ("beer4me") is so unoriginal and lame that it raised a red flag from day 1.
What an assclown....
Anyway, big thanks to you Gelman for delivering like a boss! I received my order (and original sample) yesterday and I couldn't be happier our transactions. I like his style. He tells you exactly whats up in the beginning so you never have to wonder what's up.
If you follow his instructions and read his updates then there's no ambiguity left for the buyer.
My order arrived in less than 3 days, nice discreet and very secure packaging. Lots of care went into that.
Strongest sass odor I've ever encountered. You could use this stuff as an air freshner :) Pure anise.
Gelman's photos just dont do this stuff justice. What I received looked exactly like Dom's pictures (same batch). Just a ol' big pile of brown rocks and smaller chunks, varying shades of brown when intact.
Weight was quite generous, as was Gelman's way of making up for the mixup of my original sample (which was completely unnecessary but appreciated immensely!). For the record, product was completely dry.
Marquis test went from dark purple to black instantly, followed by violent fizzing with trace smoke.
Two of my buddies did a test run last night with 125mg each. I havent had time to discuss it with them much but they did confirm 4hr amazing rolls.
Not bad considering both are heavyweights.
It got the seal of approval :)
My schedule is crazy for the next few days but I'm eager to try it, so...
Drawing inspiration from Ralph (the badass who tested out his sample on the job while operating a chainsaw), I'm planning on (possibly) spicing up the nightshift later. :) Hopefully. Either way I'll report back with my 2 cents within a couple days.
One more thing about the color of this stuff (since it's been subject of debate)...this should put your MDMA xenophobia to rest about Gelman's product:
When I crushed up these rocks in order to encapsulate a few doses, I was surprised by the change in color. These rocks are varying shades of dark brown to black...but when crushed up it all takes on a more uniform and familiar light brown, similar to brown sugar. The black literally vanishes. And it seems that the finer these grains get, the lighter it becomes.
For those still suspicious of the color, I'm with L1ly here: don't buy it, you'll save more for us!
Fuck beer4me, im out a good chunk of change because of him. idk how to report it but im not the only one he stole from.
on to the real reason im posting, now that im out my good chunk of change im going to reach into my mattress and pull out the very last few dollars i have. i dont know why i didnt go with gelman from the get go but i paid a price for being cheap.
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I'm using a tablet at work so pardon my spelling & any odd grammer. I'm also rolling over here on a whole other level so bear with me!
Ok, fwiw I'm 6 ft, 190 lbs. Haven't rolled or used any drugs for about a momth, with the exceptiom of 0.5 mg clonazepam.several hours earlier.. I've had 125mg "dutch xtal" import a few times since May this year from several reputable SR vendors. Prior to tbag, just sketchy pills a couple times a few gears back. I've enjoyed previos rolls but for the most part it never lived up to the hype and/or lacked certain.aspects and although it was fun, I didn't see what.all the fuss was about. Recently I began to wonder if my brain was oddly wired preventing a normal "magic" response to MDMA. Until tonight...
1:50 am
Swallowed 140 mg in gel cap on empty stomach
1:50 -2:20 am
hints, warm fuzzies, building euphoria, body buzz.
2:30 am
jesus christ....No compound has EVER made me feel so good! Overwhelming joy, tranquility, bodily sensations. Waves of enormous pleasure.
2:40 - 3:30 am
It became abundantly clear to me that THIS was my first «true» roll. I have no idea what the "dutch crystal" I've been getting from other vendors actually is...but it's NEVER put me where I am now. This is a completely different experience. This is how I've always imagined MDMA should feel...only it's better than I could have imagined. Absolute bliss!
This particular batch should not be called "moon rocks" or "molly". This batch should be called ECSTASY. Because that is exactly how it feels.
Full body orgasms, only better. Everyone alive deserves to experience this.
I'm at work and fortunately it's a chill night. Good thing because I have eyewiggles so bad that it's tough to focus on objects and I was tll l overwhelmed to any of this until 3:30, and its still a bif chllenginv.
Ive never fealt to much empathy and love for the world, especially towards family and those most dear to me. I want to share these moments with them.
Not a care in the world now. Heightened peripheral senses (touch). Now and again I nod off into pure bliss.
Pulse is up a bit as.expected. Comeup was smooth and completely non-threatening. My pupils don't appear dilated much (but they never really do). Yawning like mad. Feels good though. Very thirsty, had to.get some icewater. No jaw clenching. Just loys of.yawns. Absolutely ZERO negative aspects.thus far.
BTW, thers is NO speed/meth in this (I know both all too well) and know.enough.about 5\6-APB to say with confidence that there's non of that either.
This is gentle, clear, clean, euphoric high with an ecstatic comeup which is completely gentle and non-threatning.
It's been anything but "jagged" or speedy.
Deep introspection. Thinking about my life, actions, behaviorist, and relationships with others with a strong desire to strive to be a better person and bring more joy into lives of others. Makes me want to rebuild and maintain personal relationships.
Loving the world and myself right now. Even you guys. Especially Gelmam for bringing REAL MDMA onto the road and into my life. I've waited for this type of magic all my life. I almost gave up om MDMA, never having understood the hype surrounding it until tonight.
I feel so fortunate to be blessed with this stuff and still having it to share with others in the future.
I just may have to stockup on a lifetime supply of this and will if I can.
4:00 am
It's getting hard to type, especially on a tablet, so I think I'll stop here for now.
I'm absolutely stunned by this!
4:15 am
I feel like I could nut myself at the moment :)
Gelam, don't ever stop stocking this.
Hats off to the chemist responsible for producing this. You are a wonderful human..Thank you and don't ever stop!
That's it for now. Sorry for all the details. I'm simply blown away and excited that I've.finally.experienced.the.real.shebang.
I can understand why.so many hater trolls have tried to discredit Gelman. If I were.a competitor I'd be mad too!
Update;
All in all, it lasted.about 4.5-5 hours. Nothing negative about.any of it. That was 100% pure magic. I slept like a baby (better than I have all week!). Woke up feeling refreshed and better than I have in quite a while. I can still feel the afterglow.
I'm so glad I have more of this.
I think this is the "orange sunshine" of MDMA.
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so i was saying how I regret sharing some with friends. Well one of my buddies and his old lady did some and had a knock down drag out tearing the whole doorjam and all off the front of their trailor. All they had was 100 mg? Good lord I gotta be careful who I share with. His old lady went to jail. My God when I dropped 200mg it sent me into another level. I really enjoyed the hell out of it and yea it was like moist sand or something and the taste took a few gulps to wash down but fuck it was worth it. I feel like I owe gelman
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so i was saying how I regret sharing some with friends. Well one of my buddies and his old lady did some and had a knock down drag out tearing the whole doorjam and all off the front of their trailor. All they had was 100 mg? Good lord I gotta be careful who I share with. His old lady went to jail.
I can't even fathom how that situation would be possible on this stuff! lol
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Any interest in 2cb hbr?
1 gram: 80/g
5 grams: 75/g
10 grams: 70/g
25 grams: 60/g
50 grams: 50/g
100 grams: 40/g
Let me know.
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Any interest in 2cb hbr?
1 gram: 80/g
5 grams: 75/g
10 grams: 70/g
25 grams: 60/g
50 grams: 50/g
100 grams: 40/g
Let me know.
As a matter of fact, I'm very interested. I've been shopping around for a gram this week but I the current outrageous prices put me off. I've been wanting to try.this for a while now but decided to wait it out iuntil.someone with reasonable prices came along. This is awesome news.
How soon can you offer it Gelman?
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Sometime in the next few weeks. As soon as I get word, I'll give an exact date. The MDA is coming soon also, but the beez will be here sooner. I'm debating listing grams of the mdma again, but they will only be shipped first class, instead of priority. The 2cb grams will be shipped first class though, anything under 10gs will be shipped first class.
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I'll also pick up both 2cb and MDA the minute you offer them. Those are two items I've been waiting forever to pick up.
I hope to see the same mdma in the future as well. I cant get over it. I can't wait to combine it with your MDA in the future.
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I'm debating listing grams of the mdma again, but they will only be shipped first class, instead of priority.
Grams are nice for people who don't use very often (points to self). Of course I made an exception when I bought from you: couldn't resist after having a taste, hehe.
You can always charge a bit more than your 1/8th listing to discourage it. But you'll always have someone who really needs to try it before buying a bigger batch.
That's really the best way to do it, anyway. An expensive gram as a sampler for all those folks who "want to try a sample and I'll be back for bulk".
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Just so I have enough coins in my wallet ... what do you think the MDA prices are going to look like? And are they made from the same chemist as the MDMA?
Nope, the brown mdma will be consistent it shouldn't be out of stock bar some unforeseen supply issues. The MDA and 2cb are from different cooks then the mdma but i've known him for awhile and he has always made solid products. His 2cb in the past was superb. 25mg would have you tripping face. The MDA is still a ways off so I am not sure about prices, but I'd say it will be comparable to the mdma if not slightly more, but nothing significant.
Edit: Listed grams again for the mdma. Don't forget guys that all orders in by tomorrow 9/2 8PM EST will be shipping right after labor day. I'll try to have a date for the 2cb by the end of this weekend. Hope everyone has a great Holiday! :)
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Dang, I'd love 2C-B at those prices + domestic. I just picked up 500mg international at a higher price, so I'd definitely be up for it when it's stocked. As far as the MDA, I'm gonna hold off on ordering from Montell for you to stock it. When you say it'll be a while, are you guesstimating weeks or months?
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Just took the plunge and chose Gelman for my first SR transaction. Been lurking for a few months now, and I can't wait to try out this product. It seems like its shaping up to be something spectacular =D
Cheers Gelman, keep doin what you do!
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When will you be offering 100grams+ of the MDMA?
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Just took the plunge and chose Gelman for my first SR transaction. Been lurking for a few months now, and I can't wait to try out this product. It seems like its shaping up to be something spectacular =D
Cheers Gelman, keep doin what you do!
You're not going to regret it!
I've had a 2 day afterglow.
Everybody I've shared it with (6 people) has LOVED it and wants more. One of them rolled 2 nights in a row @ the same dose with no noticeable tolerance on night 2. He wanted to do it 3 nights in a row but I had to tell him to cool it for his own good. lol.
I'm about to take my second dose tonight. I planned.to wait but I'm bored and just dont have the self control after last time!
I hope I can find someone to partake w/ me, but if not I know it'll be an incredible night even it's just me, my cat, and my ipod. :)
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Just wanted to tell y'all that I ordered based off of this thread. Much rather buy domestic anyway, especially if it is as good as it sounds!! That is all ;)
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I just want to say that this guy here has my endorsement. The product is as advertised. So much so that combined with Piracetam I was able to use both Friday and Saturday and I feel amazing today. Everyone I've given it to has raved (lol) about how clean it is. I am also happy to see grams available again.
The shipping was good, got to me in a timely manner. So far so good with Gelman. Being domestic is a huge plus. Ups your chances greatly of actually receiving what you ordered.
I'd be interested in 2cb and MDA when they become available as well. I look forward to the opportunity for further business here. Thanks for the service you provide.
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So I had a 2nd amazing night last evening with these magical moonrocks!
Word to the wise: when Gelman said 150 mg + may be overwhelming, he wasn't kidding!
I tried 160 with a couple boosters (foolish and unneccesary). It's not that it's unpleasant, it was just overkill. Especially the boosters. The come up from the initial 160 had me writhing in ecstasy on my bed for most of the peak. I don't think I could have moved if I wanted to! Before the peak was over, my friend (equally dosed) decided to explore the city on foot.
As the night progressed I experienced more of the cons of MDMA (though completely tolerable)- things like jaw clenching and crazy eye wiggles. With the higher dose, eventually the speedier aspects of MDMA drowned out the empathogenic effects. Just as Gelman/others have said.
Again, it was a fun night, I just felt a little out of control at moments. Kinda like that footage of Steve O on spring break in Panama City. Almost. haha.
Surprisingly, I had no trouble falling asleep later (without any type of sleep aid) and slept like a god damn baby. And although I expected to feel like shit today, nope! I feel amazing!
I don't know why, but both times with this stuff I've had the BEST sleep of my life. And I wake up refreshed and happy. Both of those are a RARITY in my life.
That said, I'll be keeping my dose at LESS than or EQUAL to 140 mg from now on. 140 mg had all of the pros and none of the cons of last nights 160+ dose. I'm 190lb, so take that fwiw.
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I just wanted to say the 2cb can be here in a couple of weeks. I won't be offering 100g lots of mdma any time soon sadly. But it is in the future plans! MDA somtime this fall. And eventually ill be laying my ow 150mic blotters around christmas time if things go according to plan. remember folk get your orders in its almost time for the next shipping date.
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how often do you ship Gelman?
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hawkeye-ing this thread for them supposed futuretime blotters lol
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Soryy guys but i dont plan on laying blotter. 150mics per hit and 100 hits per vial. Its still a ways off though sorry
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Question. How is everyone sending their email addresses?
Are you sending a clearnet email address that is encrypted?
There is no success receiving a non-Tor email to Tormail. What has everyone else been doing for orders?
THANKS!
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There is no success receiving a non-Tor email to Tormail. What has everyone else been doing for orders?
Ordered yesterday with my tormail... I hope that's ok :-\
Maybe tormail would work for this now that their domain name problems are over? Don't know too much about that though...
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I've been sending pgp encrypted messages with my tormail... I was unaware that it would not work in reverse >_<
Maybe that's why I haven't had any return messages from Gelman regarding my order. Has anyone else had any updates on today's (Tuesday) shipment of their orders? Mine still says processing on the main site.
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Yeah you can use your tormail addy with the .org or .net since its all straightened out now.
You can send tor email to clearnet addys and it will be anonymous but received, however you cannot send clearnet emails to a tor email address--it will not be received.
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Reposting a post I made in the general MDMA thread....
Tried some of Gelman's MDMA this weekend on a camping trip and I have to say it is some of the best MDMA I've had over the past 15 years. l1llykins comments are spot on.... took a cap with about 135mg at 8:30, took about an hour to kick in. Jaw clenching was minimal, a bit more visuals in the peripheral then normal, which I always enjoy, but nothing like MDA. Took a few small key bumps over the course of the evening and was sound asleep by 3:30. Woke up 5 hours later feeling good with some nice post roll fuzziness all over. Repeated the next evening (which I know isn't the best idea) but the effects were pretty much the same with the same amount, except for feeling a little more tired when waking up.
Only bad thing I can say is that I need to wait a month to have another excellent experience like this!
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Hey guys
All orders placed by 9/3 are out. I emailed a few of you dcns. Some of you didn't follow my directions and I received unencrypted addresses, messed up public pgp keys, or no emails. I began emailing dcns to a few people but im tired as hell right now because labor day weekend wore me out, so ill finish going through the orders when i wake up tomorrow and get the dcns out to people who followed the proper directions and finalize all of the orders.
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thanks gman! can't wait to try this fucking k. people are going bonkers for this black sand too!
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I didn't know about the tormail and regular email issues. I've always just used it with other Tor users. Want me to send a better address? I don't care about the tracking so much though. Your reputation is good enough for me now.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
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Well, orders in. Cant wait to check this stuff out !!!
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
You don't seen to understand PGP. The public key is only required for encryption, not decryption. He can read the message regardless of whether he has the public key available.
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I believe that he meant that he will not be using a tor email.
I can't access my tormail account at the moment, but I'm 100% positive I've used my tormail.account to send to his lavabit addy. I'm 95% he responded with lavabit and I received.that response in my tormail inbox.
Here is a failproof way for new buyers to place your initial order the way Gelman prefers, as I understand (worked for me):
When you checkout with your order, paste the following into the message/addy box:
1. Encrypted Message. This includes:
A. Message
B. Shipping infoinfo
C. SR buyer name & your preferred email addy for any further communication (tormail, etc).
2. Your Non-encrypted public key
Paste those two things into the box, enter your pin, and proceed w/ checkout.
Originally I encrypted my public key within #1 (as blarghrawrr suggests in tbe comment below) that wouldn't decrypt according to Gelman, so I posted my key as plain text as shown above.
I hope.that makes sense.
That's it. He may or may not pm you a dcn. I believe he discourages SR PMs and emails unless there is a legit issue that needs addressed. Otherwise if you meet his order deadline, you know its on its way and can expect it within a few days or less, so there isnt much ambiguity. Its a little different that most vendors but it's also no nonsense and you never have to wonder if it's in transit or not.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
You don't seen to understand PGP. The public key is only required for encryption, not decryption. He can read the message regardless of whether he has the public key available.
I perfectly understand how PGP works. You may be confused with what I was trying to say. You can NOT encrypt your public key and send it to a vendor and expect them to Import it correctly, let alone read the message.. And how can you say that public key is only for encryption? lol sounds like you don't seem to understand what you're even typing. lol
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I believe that he meant that he will not be using a tor email.
I can't access my tormail account at the moment, but I'm 100% positive I've used my tormail.account to send to his lavabit addy. I'm 95% he responded with lavabit and I received.that response in my tormail inbox.
Here is a failproof way for new buyers to place your initial order the way Gelman prefers, as I understand (worked for me):
When you checkout with your order, paste the following into the message/addy box:
1. Encrypted Message. This includes:
A. Message
B. Shipping infoinfo
C. SR buyer name & your preferred email addy for any further communication (tormail, etc).
2. Your Non-encrypted public key
Paste those two things into the box, enter your pin, and proceed w/ checkout.
Originally I encrypted my public key within #1 (as blarghrawrr suggests in tbe comment below) that wouldn't decrypt according to Gelman, so I posted my key as plain text as shown above.
I hope.that makes sense.
That's it. He may or may not pm you a dcn. I believe he discourages SR PMs and emails unless there is a legit issue that needs addressed. Otherwise if you meet his order deadline, you know its on its way and can expect it within a few days or less, so there isnt much ambiguity. Its a little different that most vendors but it's also no nonsense and you never have to wonder if it's in transit or not.
Is C even necessary as to include "buyer SR name"? I'm sure he can see who sent him the payment.
Exactly. You can NOT encrypt your public key, it has to be sent in plain text as is when you export your public key. Besides, everyone has their public keys posted in a special PGP section so its not like you're revealing something important. Funny how some people come on her and pretend they know wtf they talking about like the moron above me who claims PGP is not for decrypting. lmao
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
You don't seen to understand PGP. The public key is only required for encryption, not decryption. He can read the message regardless of whether he has the public key available.
I perfectly understand how PGP works. You may be confused with what I was trying to say. You can NOT encrypt your public key and send it to a vendor and expect them to Import it correctly, let alone read the message.. And how can you say that public key is only for encryption? lol sounds like you don't seem to understand what you're even typing. lol
Yes I can. I've received plenty of people's public keys this way. Their encrypting the message with my key not their why would I not be able to decrypt the message you make no sense. Le Bot also posted a pretty damn good instruction guide on how to order from me. Thank you for that. The Brown MDMA is going to be going out of stock, but i'll be posting some 1g 2cb samples in the coming days. Next shipping day is sunday.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
You don't seen to understand PGP. The public key is only required for encryption, not decryption. He can read the message regardless of whether he has the public key available.
I perfectly understand how PGP works. You may be confused with what I was trying to say. You can NOT encrypt your public key and send it to a vendor and expect them to Import it correctly, let alone read the message.. And how can you say that public key is only for encryption? lol sounds like you don't seem to understand what you're even typing. lol
Yes I can. I've received plenty of people's public keys this way. Their encrypting the message with my key not their why would I not be able to decrypt the message you make no sense. Le Bot also posted a pretty damn good instruction guide on how to order from me. Thank you for that. The Brown MDMA is going to be going out of stock, but i'll be posting some 1g 2cb samples in the coming days. Next shipping day is sunday.
Thanks, Gel. You saved him from me having to put him in his place. :)
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Exactly. You can NOT encrypt your public key, it has to be sent in plain text as is when you export your public key. Besides, everyone has their public keys posted in a special PGP section so its not like you're revealing something important. Funny how some people come on her and pretend they know wtf they talking about like the moron above me who claims PGP is not for decrypting. lmao
You don't know what you are talking about. I have done it successfully many times.
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Exactly. You can NOT encrypt your public key, it has to be sent in plain text as is when you export your public key. Besides, everyone has their public keys posted in a special PGP section so its not like you're revealing something important. Funny how some people come on her and pretend they know wtf they talking about like the moron above me who claims PGP is not for decrypting. lmao
You don't know what you are talking about. I have done it successfully many times.
Oh shit! I didn't even see that part of his post, calling me a moron. Man, blster666 really is just such an unpleasant twat... And wrong, too. That's the delightful part. He doesn't even understand how PGP works. What a silly boy he is, calling me a moron... Ha! Hell, he couldn't even comprehend what I said to him. Now I wish I had taken the time to put him in his place. Shame I missed seeing that, before gelman popped up to correct him.
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How long before you get more? I've been recommending you everywhere, hehe.
Looks like there is gonna be a 1-3 month gap without it. It may pop back up around this winter hopefully. I may be able to grab a little more stock before it's all gone. My RL is just very busy right now and I'm not trying to get in over my head and my SR orders are blowing up huge. In the mean time I plan on offering 2cb and then shortly after mda. If things go well in the long term lots of nice clean lsd. As soon as I can get my hands on more of the brown it will be in stock, but once my current orders start selling out it's gone for a bit. I may be able to substitute it with a powder mdma which is slightly less potent for cheaper, but I'm not sure there is really demand for that so we shall see how things pan out.
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this is the best molly i ever had i wish i could afford some more right now
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I've still got the full gram, but I'm finally going to be getting to it sometime during or shortly after this weekend. It will actually be my first experience with this chemical, but I'll be giving it the review that it so richly deserves. I'm just not sure if I'll be able to write up a proper review, on my first experience.
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i tried his stuff on my 2nd time ever rolling 100mg blew 2 extacy pills out of the water by a long shot.
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@Gelman: no problem!
I hope to see the same.or.equal mdma back in stock after.this batch runs out. In any case, thanks for bringing real mdma to the road. It's convinced me that most of the dutch I've had from here was heavily cut with msm.
I'm making it a priority to pick up.some.of your 2cb. It sounds as if it might be listed before your next deadline. Yes? Just want to be ready for it.
And as far as.the MDA goes, do you anticipate listing it by early to mid October?
Thanks
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@Gelman: no problem!
I hope to see the same.or.equal mdma back in stock after.this batch runs out. In any case, thanks for bringing real mdma to the road. It's convinced me that most of the dutch I've had from here was heavily cut with msm.
I'm making it a priority to pick up.some.of your 2cb. It sounds as if it might be listed before your next deadline. Yes? Just want to be ready for it.
And as far as.the MDA goes, do you anticipate listing it by early to mid October?
Thanks
when its the size of baseballs, not surprising lol.
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That's like the worst news ever. I was just starting to think we had a steady source for legitimate domestic product. Bummer.
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:( sorry.
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haha. well.
Hopefully it won't take all that long to get back in stock. I look at it this way though, at least he's up front about it. Likely he doesn't know for sure what will happen, so I appreciate the fact that he's willing to say so. I definitely need to get some more of this stuff though, I have too many friends that need this in their lives :)
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haha. well.
Hopefully it won't take all that long to get back in stock. I look at it this way though, at least he's up front about it. Likely he doesn't know for sure what will happen, so I appreciate the fact that he's willing to say so. I definitely need to get some more of this stuff though, I have too many friends that need this in their lives :)
Yeah I don't lie about what I can and can't do. I'll def be trying to bring some exciting products to SR though, sadly nothing I can do about the MDMA :(
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Is there any left at this point? Not to pry or anything, I'm just wondering how expeditious I need be in acquiring coins.
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Thanks for the updates Gelman! Totally interested in some mda, b, and dose! Should we expect the same quality for all of the above, relative to the mdma? Keep up the good work!
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No worries Gelman, this stuff will live on in the trip tales of those who already bought and once it comes back, people will snatch it up even faster.
Because I tried the brown stuff, I wouldn't bother with the powdered stuff. But I'm sure others would be thrilled to see cheaper domestic (mostly the ones who never bothered with the brown sugar, lol). Just make sure the listings are separate so they don't see reviews for the brown and expect the same results with the white.
In any case, saving coin for that 2c-b!
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So glad I was able to snatch up a gram, will hold it separate from my others for special occasions. I too will pick up some b from you.
I am even MORE interested in the MDA !!! Cant wait for that ! As soon as that's in I'm on it !!!
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
You don't seen to understand PGP. The public key is only required for encryption, not decryption. He can read the message regardless of whether he has the public key available.
I perfectly understand how PGP works. You may be confused with what I was trying to say. You can NOT encrypt your public key and send it to a vendor and expect them to Import it correctly, let alone read the message.. And how can you say that public key is only for encryption? lol sounds like you don't seem to understand what you're even typing. lol
Yes I can. I've received plenty of people's public keys this way. Their encrypting the message with my key not their why would I not be able to decrypt the message you make no sense. Le Bot also posted a pretty damn good instruction guide on how to order from me. Thank you for that. The Brown MDMA is going to be going out of stock, but i'll be posting some 1g 2cb samples in the coming days. Next shipping day is sunday.
That's my public key encrypted with your key.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be working with TOR mail. Any mail service with proper encryption and vpn usage is more then safe enough. No reason to go set up a tor mail sorry. I keep all the dcns saved until the buyer finalizes the payment anyway so if something weird happens and it doent show up for whatever reason ill be able to get you the dcn. After you finalize the transaction all paper evidence is legit burned.
Well that is a damn shame because most people use Tormail. Why can't you use tormail? aren't you aware we're all using TorBrowser? Wtf is wrong with tormail? Besides, wtf is wrong if a buyer wants to send his/her address info via PM from SR?
WTF? Now I have to create a new fukking email account just to send you my fucking info? Really man? wow
I sent my address to Gelman in my SR order , PGP encrypted and got my order last week. No need to set up an email unless you need to further communicate, which I don't
This. Just remember to include your legit email within the encrypted message/address. I know lots of members use fake ones when setting up their PGP. Better yet just include it regardless with your encrypted text regardless.
I've sent &received emails.from gelman to my tormail account. Not sure.what the issue is here.
Are you saying that you received his email to your tormail account with DCL information while he's using a different email provider?
So why are people saying that noone gets his emails since he doesn't use tormail and instead lavabit and connection between the two is non-existent. So please explain to me how you were able to receive his lavabit email when he himself admitted that he wont be using tormail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he also requires buyers to include their PGP key inside the body of PM through SR with address plus email?
I sent him my address along with my public key encrypted in my order space with my order. The email is only for further communication, which I don't have a need for. I dont' need my hand held.
You actually encrypted your public key? I can understand for the address. I hope you meant you included your public key as is but only encrypted your address so then when he imports the key he then can read your address. There is no way he could read anything if you encrypted both without the public key as is.
You don't seen to understand PGP. The public key is only required for encryption, not decryption. He can read the message regardless of whether he has the public key available.
I perfectly understand how PGP works. You may be confused with what I was trying to say. You can NOT encrypt your public key and send it to a vendor and expect them to Import it correctly, let alone read the message.. And how can you say that public key is only for encryption? lol sounds like you don't seem to understand what you're even typing. lol
Yes I can. I've received plenty of people's public keys this way. Their encrypting the message with my key not their why would I not be able to decrypt the message you make no sense. Le Bot also posted a pretty damn good instruction guide on how to order from me. Thank you for that. The Brown MDMA is going to be going out of stock, but i'll be posting some 1g 2cb samples in the coming days. Next shipping day is sunday.
That's my public key encrypted with your key.
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Gelman12345 ???? so what.
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How long before you get more? I've been recommending you everywhere, hehe.
Looks like there is gonna be a 1-3 month gap without it. It may pop back up around this winter hopefully. I may be able to grab a little more stock before it's all gone. My RL is just very busy right now and I'm not trying to get in over my head and my SR orders are blowing up huge. In the mean time I plan on offering 2cb and then shortly after mda. If things go well in the long term lots of nice clean lsd. As soon as I can get my hands on more of the brown it will be in stock, but once my current orders start selling out it's gone for a bit. I may be able to substitute it with a powder mdma which is slightly less potent for cheaper, but I'm not sure there is really demand for that so we shall see how things pan out.
I see your listings are still up for the brown MDMA. Are you still taking orders for it, or is it completely sold out?
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How long before you get more? I've been recommending you everywhere, hehe.
Looks like there is gonna be a 1-3 month gap without it. It may pop back up around this winter hopefully. I may be able to grab a little more stock before it's all gone. My RL is just very busy right now and I'm not trying to get in over my head and my SR orders are blowing up huge. In the mean time I plan on offering 2cb and then shortly after mda. If things go well in the long term lots of nice clean lsd. As soon as I can get my hands on more of the brown it will be in stock, but once my current orders start selling out it's gone for a bit. I may be able to substitute it with a powder mdma which is slightly less potent for cheaper, but I'm not sure there is really demand for that so we shall see how things pan out.
I see your listings are still up for the brown MDMA. Are you still taking orders for it, or is it completely sold out?
Any active listings I have are for product that is in stock.
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Package touched down this morning, and the tester lines have just been taken.... and I say GOD DAMN!!
This is some first class product so far. Incredibly smelly, slightly damp, and my Marquis went instant black, with violent fizzing and a puff of smoke ^_^
Packaging was 100% stealthy as well. I'll update later with a trip report. For now, down the hatch with 130mg ;D
THANK YOU Gelman, this shit is gonna help change the scene in my area.
-Vyndrah
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Package touched down this morning, and the tester lines have just been taken.... and I say GOD DAMN!!
This is some first class product so far. Incredibly smelly, slightly damp, and my Marquis went instant black, with violent fizzing and a puff of smoke ^_^
Packaging was 100% stealthy as well. I'll update later with a trip report. For now, down the hatch with 130mg ;D
THANK YOU Gelman, this shit is gonna help change the scene in my area.
-Vyndrah
Wow, I can't wait to try this stuff! Does it feel really clean on the comedown?
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I'm really looking to place an order with gelman, but I'm still confused on how this whole pgp thing works seeing as I've never used it. Now I'm not asking how to use pgp, i can figure that out on my own, but in regards to gelman can someone give me a step by step process on how to place and order, do I use the SR ordering system and just encrypt my info in the orderinfo.address box or do I buy a listing the encrypted email him my address? If someone could give a rundown on how it owrks that'd be great.
thanks
papes
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I'm really looking to place an order with gelman, but I'm still confused on how this whole pgp thing works seeing as I've never used it. Now I'm not asking how to use pgp, i can figure that out on my own, but in regards to gelman can someone give me a step by step process on how to place and order, do I use the SR ordering system and just encrypt my info in the orderinfo.address box or do I buy a listing the encrypted email him my address? If someone could give a rundown on how it owrks that'd be great.
thanks
papes
Check a few pages back in this thread, someone did just that.
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I've had supertrips mdma and and it was amazing . I'm curious how this compares. ST was super intense and on another level. I was pretty much in a carefree trance and had no worries. Is there much sweating, grinding, eye rolling, etc? Would you say its a more mellow roll or would it be similar to a dutch 120 mg roll? Just trying to find as much info as possible before possibly placing an order.
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This MDMA is very good. I've taken it a few times 150mg, 200mgs and 300mgs on a bender night. Stuff has a really sweet black licorice smell and taste but , also bitter at the same time. I snorted half each time I did it and ate the other half. Burned a little when snorting and made my eye water a little but not too bad. Burning and eye watering didn't last long, but drips are a little brutal though. Stuff was more trippy feeling like MDA but def felt more like MDMA. Even in low doses, just doing finder dabs I would feel amazing off it. For domestic molly this is good stuff, I personally don't care for licorice so I would enjoy it more if washed better and didnt have that taste or smell. None the less this stuff is bomb and I recommend it. Vendor over weighs and got it within 3 days from what I remember. Be getting more shortly to rage before summer is over
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Awww man! I just got coins to purchase the 1g listing that was up last night and I go to do it and it's gone! Still have half oz and oz up though so logic tells me it's not a supply issue... I'd be willing to pay a premium over what you were selling a g for to get one if at all possible G-man! Say $80 or so? If not I guess I'll go elsewhere until I get enough cash for a larger listing. No worries... and thanks!
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Hope the smaller quantity listings go back up as well. Made a BTC deposit specifically to buy some of Gelman's stuff, but wanted to do 3.5 grams to start. Any chance of putting those back up Gelman?
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Just thinning out some orders so I don't get too backed up. Smaller amounts will go back up when I get my #s down.
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Whew. Big sigh of relief there. Any idea if they'll be up before the shipping deadline tonight?
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Gelman, jabber please. Thx.
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Would also definitely like to know the timeframe for when the smaller quantities are going back up, if you have an estimate.
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I'm wondering the same thing I was about to grab some but then the small listings disappeared lol :(
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Is Gelman still around?! Been 5 days since my order and shot him a message, yet still nothing. :-\
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Is Gelman still around?! Been 5 days since my order and shot him a message, yet still nothing. :-\
No I'm not around I've just posted over the past 2 pages that everything is going out over the next 2-3 days and that I cut off my smaller amts because of a huge amount of packs. Anyway, 20-30 orders are going out tonight.
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can you get on jabber and get in touch| ?
thx.
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that ketamine is incredible 8)
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Hey Gelman,
Do you think you will ever get some ketamine back in stock? You would dominate the US ketamine scene since no one is really selling domestic ketamine. A lot of people don't want to deal with etiozolam due to his poor service and price.
Hope you get some K back in stock man!
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Gelman, cant wait to see what you bring to the table and will post reagent pictures when my order comes. I know one set is already up but the more the better ;)
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so will you have ounces availible for a few more days?
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Ordered Friday... still says processing... does this mean it hasnt been sent out on the sunday ship date?
please touch on this...
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yes
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Just got home and found in my mailbox. Perfect and stealth ship. 2 days to midwest after shipped. Excellent
weight. Yummy looks. Rocky and sandy. Cant wait to try-will update when I do. A+
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Mine arrived today as well, thanks Gelman everything looks good. I couldn't wait, I had to try a few bumps!! Will post a proper review & comment after this weekend or next.
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I placed an order with Gelman when he had 32 transactions. I believe you can't FE when a vendor has less than 35 right? Placed the order yesterday and it's still processing..Gelman, have you shipped out anything in the past 24hours?
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He ships weekly after the weekend. Always has. It's smart and reliable, and I find it eliminates the need to fret about the status of your order. I don't know why it's not on his vendor page, but it's stated explicitly at the beginning of this thread.
Anyway, I received my 2nd order from Gelman. Had to stock up on that magic licorice.
Best decision ever. Same flawless experience as before, same superb quality. Another perfect transaction.
We need more vendors like this. This guy knows how to do it right.
Now for that 2C-B & MDA... :)
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My order finally arrived. I was hoping to test it out and if it's as good as everyone says, then I'd pick up more. But it looks like it's out of stock as of today.
Is that right Gelman? Are you out for a good while now?
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Boooooo! Between learning gpg and bitcoin I never had time to order. So sad...haven't had anything like brown sugar for over 10 years! Please stock back up when ya can Gel, and allow small amounts for those of us noobs to the SR scene to check it out. You tha man! Peace.
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I can not wait to try this! Classic HCL fizz when tested. Simon's turned Cobalt blue very quickly finishing almost black. Exactly what I was looking for. I have another month before I can drop again (gotta stick to Mr. Shulgins rules) :)
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I can not wait to try this! Classic HCL fizz when tested. Simon's turned Cobalt blue very quickly finishing almost black. Exactly what I was looking for. I have another month before I can drop again (gotta stick to Mr. Shulgins rules) :)
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good to see more reagent pictures up. This is how it should be done when it comes to MDMA or MDA. You order, you get it, you chem test it an show proof.
Looking over gelmans rating im confused why one user stated
Didnt regent test the same way other MDMA has tested for me in the past. Me and my friend both agreed that its most likely bk-mdma. I will update when I have other regent tester kits if anything comes up.
--We both decided that we wont do any of this "mdma" until we are absolutely sure what it is. Kinda sucks that I paid top dollar for this stuff..
haters going to hate?
anyways with luck i'll have a set of my own reagent pictures up by next week.
To ihidemuffins: the spoon all the way on the right, thats with simons?
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Who ever posted to say that it didn't react how they're used too... is a bit of a fool. It's been made very clear that gelman's MDMA is pure, and that's why it fizzles. Whatever person you're quoting for that MagicMan, and I know you're not sure who it is, is just mistaken. They're not hating, they just don't know the good stuff.
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I don't know about that with all the fierce competition that goes on around here
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"Most likely" methylone? Mecke has no reaction and turns yellow on a marquis, not black ... very different ends of the color spectrum and if they're getting it mixed up, they have no business around this stuff.
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Probably Mindman. lol. I've never seen a vendor with more makebelieve haters than Gelman. Nor molly so legit :)
I had an unexpected roll (from order #2 btw, tested identically as 1st sample) with this last night...I decided to try 4-aco-dmt and had a trip from hell. It was truly unbearable so I popped a capsule of the brown sugar as a last resort hoping to end the mind rape. So glad I did! Went from tears of mental torture to tears of joy and rode the remainder of the night out in a state of bliss. It saved my ass! I'm done with tryptamines.
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Thats what i figured. Well anyways like i said once i get my item i will post up reagents.
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To ihidemuffins: the spoon all the way on the right, thats with simons?
Correct. Left to right, Marquis, Mecke, Simons. From personal experience, I can usually judge quality from how quickly Simons turns cobalt blue and if it finishes black. Is there science behind it? Not sure, just judging from personal experience.
And whoever said BK-MDMA, like everyone else said, is retarded.
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To ihidemuffins: the spoon all the way on the right, thats with simons?
Correct. Left to right, Marquis, Mecke, Simons. From personal experience, I can usually judge quality from how quickly Simons turns cobalt blue and if it finishes black. Is there science behind it? Not sure, just judging from personal experience.
And whoever said BK-MDMA, like everyone else said, is retarded.
There is a bit of science, probably. It means the reagent is encountering a higher amount of MDMA than otherwise, I would think. I imagine you'd get the same kind of quick-result if you tossed in a fuckton of cut MDMA as with a small amount of the uncut awesomeness that is gelman's MDMA. Then again, I'm not an expert. That's just what I'd figure would happen.
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How long has it taken to get to everyone?
I ordered last Friday, got the switch to in transit on Wednesday and still have not gotten it... although going by other people in similar regions it should have been here by now..
I have emailed gelman, with still no reply. Hopefully it comes Monday and i'm just being a bit over the top, but a point of going domestic was faster shipping and Monday would mark times its come from overseas before....
hopefully this stuff is worth it.
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I'm also waiting on an order to come through. I don't want to send him a message because I figure I'm just being impatient. Hopefully something shows by Monday.
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I ordered on thursday so when is his next shipping day? mine still says proccessing.
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Be patient folks :) Mine was shipped on a Wednesday and arrived on a Monday.
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You ordered on a wednesday and it came the following monday? or you ordered wednesday and it came to mondays from then. Because I ordered not this past friday, but the friday before. Tomorrow will mark 11 days since order and 5 days since moved to in transit status.
Still no email reply from gelman either...
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Just tried it personally for the first time. Tooted a 125mg line about ten mnutes ago and my palms are already shaking as I'm typing this. Holy shit despite all of the solid reviews I didn't expect it to be this good.
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You ordered on a wednesday and it came the following monday? or you ordered wednesday and it came to mondays from then. Because I ordered not this past friday, but the friday before. Tomorrow will mark 11 days since order and 5 days since moved to in transit status.
Still no email reply from gelman either...
He has always shipped after the weekend (usually Sun, Mon, or Tues evening).
If you ordered Friday 9/7, it would have been shipped after the weekend and should entered the mail system between Mon 9/10 and Wed 9/12.
Both of my orders arrived on day #3 of transit (eg- first scanned on Wed & delivered Fri) and I'm positive that it would take a minimum of 4 days in transit to reach other destinations. You'll likely have it Mon, or Tues at the latest, and it will be awesome.
No need to worry about getting an email or DCN yet. My last one didn't come until the night before receiving. The important thing is that you are in escrow and paid for a DCN.
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My order went into transit last wednesday. I still have not recieved my pack and USPS has just delivered about 30 minutes ago. Last order took only 3 days from it being marked in transit...Not sure what the issue is here. I messaged him asking to check the status of the pack and have not gotten a reply. Hopefully the post is just slow.
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My order went into transit last wednesday. I still have not recieved my pack and USPS has just delivered about 30 minutes ago. Last order took only 3 days from it being marked in transit...Not sure what the issue is here. I messaged him asking to check the status of the pack and have not gotten a reply. Hopefully the post is just slow.
well this killed a bit of the hope i had for mine showing up. ever notice how when your waiting for something you start counting the minutes before its mail time?
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And all hope has been shattered once again. Kind of getting annoyed at this
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I am not sure why we haven't received yet. Has anyone received today??
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Still haven't gotten it.
Suspicious why 1. He is not replying to any emails 2. He has not been on this board for a while and 3. There are no more listings.
I have read of other people, if you catch them on the tail end of their supply, of not coming through. So frankly, I will wait one or two more days (assuming he shipped Wednesday, today marks shipping day 4.... no post takes longer than this).
But, to me this seems like a lost cause, and I am frankly going to be really pissed if this does not come through as it will then have been a complete waste of time and tie-up of bitcoins.
GELMAN PLEASE POST OR REPLY.
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In the same boat as everyone else. It's a shame Gelman won't address this. What would Gelman have to gain by marking our packages 'In Transit' though if he's dry? The funds are in escrow...
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le botbahn, i am seriously hoping you are right and that it comes tomorrow...
however, on all the transaction reviews i read "3 days to WC" and ive read even faster times to elsewhere. So even if we only count business days (usps is still churning on saturdays though usually) it is really seeming unlikely... and i feel like im waiting now for the resolve button instead.
doesn't make sense that he would just disappear completely.... no replies to emails, no posts on this forum, hell, even logging onto SR (his prof says its been 5 days). that is of course, unless theres something wrong. Fingers crossed for tomorrow, but not crossed too hard.
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Hope he's doing ok.
I'm sure there are finalized funds in his account that have not been withdrawn since his last login 5 days ago.
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In the same boat as everyone else. It's a shame Gelman won't address this. What would Gelman have to gain by marking our packages 'In Transit' though if he's dry? The funds are in escrow...
That is very true. 4 days until the resolve button is active so its running the clock. i truly believe if i would have gone outside domestic my item would have showed up already if it truly did ship when he marked it shipped.
Are the BTC hedged or unhedged for his items? its slipping my mind
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USPS came and left again. I am giving up on any hope of receiving anything from Gelman. This was my second order with him. I have never had to go through the resolution process. I am not at risk of losing my BTC am I? IF someone can please PM me or point me in the direction on how resolution works it would be appreciated. I got 100 btc tied up with Gelman....
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Hit the resolution button before you time out. You can either ask for a refund or give him more time. Those are the only two options unfortunately.
If Gelman doesn't respond and SR gives you a refund, it will not count against you.
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Sucks, something must have happened. He really went awol as soon as he sent out the last packs. There are a ton of new finalizations and he hasnt logged in to collect those funds. Hopefully he is just on vacation...My first order was flawless, thats why I know something must have happened :(
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Sucks, something must have happened. He really went awol as soon as he sent out the last packs. There are a ton of new finalizations and he hasnt logged in to collect those funds. Hopefully he is just on vacation...My first order was flawless, thats why I know something must have happened :(
that has me worried as its 10+ orders. Should be around a couple thousand dollars his account laying on. Not normal an makes me believe he may have been booked but that's just paranoia(?). Regardless im going to pretend he didn't ship until sunday night/monday and that it will pop up by friday and NOT be a CD.
ive placed a order with CN the same day and my item just showed up. Around the world faster then domestic? thats a new one!
In the meantime off to the geochache we go cause a clean house is never needed most until you know!
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Yep....hope are packs weren't seized with our addresses on it..I guess it's a wait and see thing. The only part that sucks is waiting!!
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i use a drop so im not worried about anyone coming to my real house but the fact i need to clean out my drop location is a pain in my ass. The idea of losing that addy is even more of a pain.
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I am super sketched. The wait is killing me!! I don't know whether to feel good it didnt arrive or be worried that they may have something with my info on it.
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Well he is the " JAIL MAN " do you guys not get the big picture? Why do you think every really active big name people on the forums are sticking up for this guy ( Le bloodbath, Lilly kins, And so on) so hard because they are Leo. I mean C'mon only a Le would name there account " Le Bloodbath " just put the picture together guys i would keep my drop squeaky clean if i was you.
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Well he is the " JAIL MAN " do you guys not get the big picture? Why do you think every really active big name people on the forums are sticking up for this guy ( Le bloodbath, Lilly kins, And so on) so hard because they are Leo. I mean C'mon only a Le would name there account " Le Bloodbath " just put the picture together guys i would keep my drop squeaky clean if i was you.
Actually, I figured the big-names were sticking up for gelman because they received quality products from him, just like I did. Or could it be that the big-names do a lot of buying?
Oh wait, I'm a big name... I must be LEO too? This is, as best, a stupid person throwing out conjecture with no proof. At worst, a troll that is trying to freak everyone out.
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Well he is the " JAIL MAN " do you guys not get the big picture? Why do you think every really active big name people on the forums are sticking up for this guy ( Le bloodbath, Lilly kins, And so on) so hard because they are Leo. I mean C'mon only a Le would name there account " Le Bloodbath " just put the picture together guys i would keep my drop squeaky clean if i was you.
Troll
but the fact he has funds in his acc and has not touched them makes me wonder. no emails or nada for the past 6 days.
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Well fuck. There goes my cover. You're also confusing me with NomadBloodbath. He's a mod and has never posted here. The "le" in "le botbahn", is the French version for "the". I've never studied French so I could be mistaken. Perhaps the Spanish equivalent "el" would have been a better choice, as the resident troll 'tards like yourself may not have made the "le=law enforcement" connection quite so easily.
Clearly, the only explanation for this is that it was one massive conspiracy orchestrated between Gelman and us original sample receivers. It's obvious to amyone the goal all along was to pretend to order massive quantities of the best MDMA anyone has ever seen after our initial "sample" in order to entrap whomever placed the last 3 orders, kick down their doors, and arrest they punk asses. Nobody else. Just them. And we're going to do it way late in order to not arouse suspicion. That way, they won't have time to clean house either.
Nice try, magicman.
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On a serious note, this does seem a bit unlike Gelman, even as busy as he seems to be at times.
Did any of you get a DCN? What's the status? What day did it register as scanned?
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On a serious note, this does seem a bit unlike Gelman, even as busy as he seems to be at times.
Did any of you get a DCN? What's the status? What day did it register as scanned?
No DCN on my side.
The "le" in "le botbahn", is the French version for "the".
Clearly, the only explanation for this is that it was one massive conspiracy orchestrated between Gelman and us original sample receivers. It's obvious to amyone the goal all along was to pretend to order massive quantities of the best MDMA anyone has ever seen after our initial "sample" in order to entrap whomever placed the last 3 orders, kick down their doors, and arrest they punk asses. Nobody else. Just them. And we're going to do it way late in order to not arouse suspicion. That way, they won't have time to clean house either.
You are correct on the Le part being "the"
and its more then 3 people and others reported getting items in 2-4 days on the same coast. the whole fact he did not sign in to get his funds makes me wonder and i cant stop repeating that.
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Lets actually think about this for a bit.
The order that he sold things seems to tip a little towards him perhaps being LE.
He sends out small samples first, cuz he knows he needs to gain rep. At first his shipping sizes start from 1g all the way to 1oz.
Slowly builds rep, soon, the only qty he is selling is 1/2 oz and 1 oz, perhaps to go after, or at least have marked down the bigger fish.
This could also be to scam I suppose, I know a lot of vendors are end scammers, where after they have sold their product, they try and get as much as they can and then disappear, but this doesn't make sense because there was no FE request...
Probably best to get a new dropoff location from this point on. This is exactly the reason i never wanted to order domestic in the first place... just my luck.
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and i never got dcn either. In fact, i never got any sort of contact from gelman.
Only fact I have is that status went to "in transit" on Wednesday night.
Here's to hoping this means it hits the post office Thursday ->friday, saturday(?), monday, tuesday, wednesday??
can creatively imagine that to be only four days of time to ship.
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No communication, DCN, or package here either.
Not sure if fredflinstone watches this thread at all...if so, have you had any contact with Gelman?
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I would advise clearing your stashes, ladies and gentleman and moving them for a while until this gets fully resolved. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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I would advise clearing your stashes, ladies and gentleman and moving them for a while until this gets fully resolved. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Agreed ... not because I think he's LE but his drops might have been compromised considering the last batch was mostly large orders. Stay safe everyone!
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You guys think Gelman is Rainbowvomit?They're products and prices almost look identical. Thats just really weird how he just sells for one month then bounces. Idk if LE would be going after buyers that purchase o'z and hald o'z ...wouldn't you think that they will go after people buying in BULK like 500g+? What if they sold some MDMA to someone and some idiot took too much and died. That would make them look really bad dont ya think?
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I would advise clearing your stashes, ladies and gentleman and moving them for a while until this gets fully resolved. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Agreed ... not because I think he's LE but his drops might have been compromised considering the last batch was mostly large orders. Stay safe everyone!
The fact he has not been on to collect his funds is now the only evidence that strongly points to him being busted as that's how im going to treat it. It now leads to the next question, say the item comes in a day or two. does one even want it? This whole situation is too sketchy. somehow i dont believe they wouldn't do a CD an then bust. Seeing as anyone can send anyone anything in the mail an if he was busted doing a drop i dont believe a undelivered package with a name on it is enough to get a warrant or am i wrong?
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It's a simple observation, Shannon. I would much rather be overly cautious than skimp on security. Gathering your interest in cryptography, I'd figure you shared that belief.
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im probably one of the last few orders that went in as well.. right after my order hit transit, gelman had pulled all his listings and mine was just for a gram.. guy definately accomodate.d. i made the mistake of sending my address direct on SR and thought he'd cancel it.. but i also used PGP to email him it and he still fulfilled.. I got my order in by Saturday the 9th last week and it shipped out Monday from the east coast and arrived to the west coast by thursday (4 days).. i was sorta surprised that USPS priority took alot longer than it usually does but it did have DCN sticker on it as well.. as for the rest, all I can possibly think of is that he ran out and sold more than he could actually fulfill or he probably just shipped out his last batch this past monday.? i'd give it till this weekend before assuming anything.. hope the guy comes back around.. his stuff is clean..
"Date Registered:
September 11, 2012, 07:18 AM"
Sorry but take a walk.
I advise everyone to clean house as a precaution and pay attention to the outside world. DCN means no need to sign. They ask you to sign that's the 1st sign to tell them to take a walk. He did not send DCN's so it could mean he might have over sold but he claimed if it was listed it was in stock. It could also mean he said fuck it im going to take a break, list items as shipped and ship them when i want to. Now ask yourself if you had a few grand, which is what more or less he should have in his SR, would you log on and claim your money? go to his vendor page and count the posts and do some math since he went AWOL. He may NOT be leo as if he was then the old people of SR who did samples an ect are in fact LEO but he possibly more then likely HAS been taken away by the men with shiny bracelets. With packs in hand or packs sent an then marked for CD? I checked 5x and its hedged meaning he gives a shit about the coin market. He wouldn't let money sit around while paying a fee. In the end this IS SR and you need to treat things like this in the worst possible sense as one slip can lead to a life with big bob. IF he is LEO this would be a case of LEO going after customer as a sting but it could happen just dont feel personal consumption will do them the right of a paycheck for man hours nor so many people whos name i recognize being LEO.
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So how long does it take for the resolution process to complete. Sucks that I have 1 K floating in virtual space. Now I gotta figure out the safest way to get my money off of the silk road and withdraw it....
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Couple things ...
1. Gelman is OK. He is very busy with school, IRL stuff. He will not rip anyone off. He has the product, just not the time. Time sensitive orders may want to consider this going forward.
2. Gelman is not Rainbow Vomit.
3. Gelman is NOT a cop ...at least I hope, otherwise I AM FUCKED ... lol.
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Fixed.
Couple things ...
1. Jailman is not OK. He is very busy with work, COP stuff. He will rip anyone off. He does not have the product.
2. Jailman is Rainbow Vomit.
3. Jailman is a cop ... we are both cops ... lol.
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I had a small order with Gelman that went flawlessly right before he went missing. Am I supposed to clean my place as well?!
Fuck I'm paranoid but it's gonna be a fuckin hassle to clean my place clean just because a vendor I used for a small order went missing. Ugh.
Thoughts?
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HE ISNT MISSING lol ... i talked to him over the weekend.
he is delayed ... and likely wont be working as hard during school months.
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HE ISNT MISSING lol ... i talked to him over the weekend.
he is delayed ... and likely wont be working as hard during school months.
Its been 1 week with no contact and people waiting on orders as well as money in his account untouched. Nope sorry i dont buy it.
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his attitude towards SR has always been apathetic, not sure he is too worried.
i advised him against selling here in the first place.
under a different name he is a large seller in the private community .. not worth the headaches and alot of work.
which has caught up with him obviously.
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I wish he could just come on here and ease our minds...I am still not sure that I will see my package. Last message that I got from him was saying that he was a little slow because he had like 30 seperate 1 gram orders. It is possible he set our status as in transit and was never able to get our stuff out between mon-wed due to the high volume he was dealing with. Hopefully ours will go out with the next batch. I am not sure whats going on though. Really very suspicious that he hasn't even came on to handle his funds..
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I wish he could just come on here and ease our minds...I am still not sure that I will see my package. Last message that I got from him was saying that he was a little slow because he had like 30 seperate 1 gram orders. It is possible he set our status as in transit and was never able to get our stuff out between mon-wed due to the high volume he was dealing with. Hopefully ours will go out with the next batch. I am not sure whats going on though. Really very suspicious that he hasn't even came on to handle his funds..
when did he tell you that?
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He told me that when he put my order in transit on wednesday.
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fredflinstone, for the sake of everyone, do you think you could spare some energy to ask him to come on and give an update in the forum at the very least?
I know theres nothing in it for you really, but you'd make a lot of peoples' day(s), thats for sure.
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I just sent him an email.
I am not saying he isnt being janky ... I am just saying, he isnt in jail or anything. People dont need to go ape throwing shit away lol.
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Thanks for replying, FredFlinstone.
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Thank you Fred, by this I hope you mean a different email that he actually checks, cuz I (and many others im sure) have tried emailing him at his listed one.
I do remember he saying a shitton of orders came in and he'd be doing them in groups of 20-30, but i didn't think he meant he'd be skipping weeks... judging by other post, USPS does seem to be moving slowly lately. I am pretty sure there were some serious layoffs recently (but maybe im just making it up to give myself peace of mind).
anyways. fingerscrossed.
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Yes, this is a different email.
All your guys orders are in escrow, right ? He probably knows that, so he isnt too concerned.
Again ... I am only saying to you guys that he isnt arrested or anything. Saving you guys some worries. Anything beyond that, I cant say.
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FUCK!! just be patient people. this isn't like shopping at wal-mart. real life (i.e. school) takes precedence, especially if you're already busy in other places.
the gelman is legit. the product is SUPER FUCKING SOLID. calm your tits. fuck, i'd hate to deal with some of you in real life.
but, if you're really worried, burn your house down.
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Man, I would so love to be part of a private community online. Lol.
It wouldn't surprise me if he dipped from SR tho. Tends to happen.
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This thread is hilarious the last few pages. He's coming back. Settle the fuck down.
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This thread is hilarious the last few pages. He's coming back. Settle the fuck down.
Hopefully with those 2cb listings too :)
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8 days and he has not logged in to collect his funds or respond to customers with outstanding orders. How many days till I can hit the resolve button and get my BTC back? I really don't think we will see him again. If by saturday I haven't heard from him I will take it that he is not coming back because he surely would have re-listed his items by the weekend... I guess time will tell. Nothing we can really do until the resolve button becomes available.
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8 days and he has not logged in to collect his funds or respond to customers with outstanding orders. How many days till I can hit the resolve button and get my BTC back? I really don't think we will see him again. If by saturday I haven't heard from him I will take it that he is not coming back because he surely would have re-listed his items by the weekend... I guess time will tell. Nothing we can really do until the resolve button becomes available.
He didn't intend to relist mdma (fyi). He said maybe later this year, but it sounded like a big maybe.
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FUCK!! just be patient people. this isn't like shopping at wal-mart. real life (i.e. school) takes precedence, especially if you're already busy in other places.
the gelman is legit. the product is SUPER FUCKING SOLID. calm your tits. fuck, i'd hate to deal with some of you in real life.
but, if you're really worried, burn your house down.
its not walmart, your right about that. So it not being walmart treat it as what it really is. The guy is not picking up even his funds! fuck everyone who is telling to keep calm or relax. End of the day talk on the net may it be clear or deep is not worth jack shit as when you get a boot to your door these people will not be around or even matter for that fact. Clean your houses, hide your kids an wife an get ready for the boot,LL or a simple CD. Best case is nothing will happen and life will go on but it not being walmart but SR expect the worse.
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if anyone thinks otherwise then keep thinking that when its not your asses on the line and feel free to give that negative karma as i dont give a rats ass. Dont forget to clean your PC's as it being SR odds are if its a real boot they will be taking your computer away. Im preaching the common sense no one will.
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if anyone thinks otherwise then keep thinking that when its not your asses on the line and feel free to give that negative karma as i dont give a rats ass. Dont forget to clean your PC's as it being SR odds are if its a real boot they will be taking your computer away. Im preaching the common sense no one will.
whoa whoa.. aren't you a little paranoid?
do you really think hundreds of his customers are going to get their door kicked in?
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Any updates on this Fred? Is Gelman ever planning to come back?
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He updated that he was in a car accident before he dropped any orders on the 12th.
He wont be vending online for a while, and I assume orders werent sent out.
Sorry guys.
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He updated that he was in a car accident before he dropped any orders on the 12th.
He wont be vending online for a while, and I assume orders werent sent out.
Sorry guys.
Sorry to hear that.
I'm also sorry to sound like a selfish, uncaring, ass-hole too, but, didn't you say earlier in this thread (or another) that you spoke with him "over the weekend" and that he was "extremely busy"? He forgot to mention he was in a car accident? Something isn't adding up here.
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HE ISNT MISSING lol ... i talked to him over the weekend.
he is delayed ... and likely wont be working as hard during school months.
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Sorry to hear that.
I'm also sorry to sound like a selfish, uncaring, ass-hole too, but, didn't you say earlier in this thread (or another) that you spoke with him "over the weekend" and that he was "extremely busy"? He forgot to mention he was in a car accident? Something isn't adding up here.
something doesn't smell right here
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Yeah I spoke with him on the 14th.
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
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wouldn't mind tryin out, need a new domestic MDMA vendor. You still around or what?
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If he plans on not coming back for a while, why didn't he even bother to log back in to collect the funds sitting in his account?
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I don't understand, if the BTC's are in escrow then why are people worried? Aren't you able to get your BTC back if the transaction wasn't completed? I am not being facetious but genuinely wondering what the issue and the worry. ???
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I don't understand, if the BTC's are in escrow then why are people worried? Aren't you able to get your BTC back if the transaction wasn't completed? I am not being facetious but genuinely wondering what the issue and the worry. ???
This is EXACTLY how it works.
People are worried because they think LE sent out several free grams of MDMA, followed by several ounces of MDMA, just so they could harvest addresses of drug-dealers or buyers.
People aren't very smart.
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People are worried because they think LE sent out several free grams of MDMA, followed by several ounces of MDMA, just so they could harvest addresses of drug-dealers or buyers.
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That is a possibility though.
Gelman probably wasn't LE though. Gelman sold different goods on the side of MDMA which doesn't make sense if he was actually LE.
What most people are worried about is if their personal information has been compromised if Gelman has been caught by LE.
A lot of vendors would give up information and cooperate with LE once they are caught to lessen their sentence.
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A lot of vendors would give up information and cooperate with LE once they are caught to lessen their sentence.
Let me break down why you're wrong.
Gelman bought kilogram(s) of MDMA and sold it on the Road.
Gelman's buyers buy ounces of MDMA on the Road.
LE doesn't care about who buys from gelman. Gelman is a SOURCE. They care about catching Gelman, or Gelman's supplier.
No vendor would get a reduced sentence by flipping on their buyers. LE already have a Source(in this hypothetical). Those buyers don't have a Source, anymore.
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LE doesn't care about who buys from gelman. Gelman is a SOURCE. They care about catching Gelman, or Gelman's supplier.
No vendor would get a reduced sentence by flipping on their buyers. LE already have a Source(in this hypothetical). Those buyers don't have a Source, anymore.
You are correct. There is minimal chance that anything will happen to Gelman's past customers even if LE had access to the information.
But, what do we really know about what happens to that information? Could that information be forwarded to the local LEs of the corresponding buyer if the buyer's purchase exceeded a certain amount? Could the addresses simply be flagged in the USPS system?
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LE doesn't care about who buys from gelman. Gelman is a SOURCE. They care about catching Gelman, or Gelman's supplier.
No vendor would get a reduced sentence by flipping on their buyers. LE already have a Source(in this hypothetical). Those buyers don't have a Source, anymore.
You are correct. There is minimal chance that anything will happen to Gelman's past customers even if LE had access to the information.
But, what do we really know about what happens to that information? Could that information be forwarded to the local LEs of the corresponding buyer if the buyer's purchase exceeded a certain amount? Could the addresses simply be flagged in the USPS system?
Flagged? Yeah, that would probably happen. In fact, I would be surprised if it didn't in the given hypothetical situation. And with ounce-amounts of MDMA, there is probably a fair chance that some search-warrants would be served. After all, an ounce of MDMA is quite a bit. But that can only happen if gelman kept records. And no half-way decent vendor is going to keep records about who their buyers are, or how much they buy.
So, for the paranoid; Quit freaking out, fuckers. Gelman has shown EVERY indication of being an upstanding vendor, and part of that means destroying customer information. Jesus fuck, it's like some folks don't even understand the Silk Road's strictest rule: DO NOT STORE CUSTOMER INFORMATION.
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So, for the paranoid; Quit freaking out, fuckers. Gelman has shown EVERY indication of being an upstanding vendor, and part of that means destroying customer information. Jesus fuck, it's like some folks don't even understand the Silk Road's strictest rule: DO NOT STORE CUSTOMER INFORMATION.
Indeed. Only thing that bugs me is why Gelman hasn't bothered to log back in to collect the fund sitting in his account.
Something happened to him but who knows what. We hope for the best but embrace for the worst.
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So, for the paranoid; Quit freaking out, fuckers. Gelman has shown EVERY indication of being an upstanding vendor, and part of that means destroying customer information. Jesus fuck, it's like some folks don't even understand the Silk Road's strictest rule: DO NOT STORE CUSTOMER INFORMATION.
Indeed. Only thing that bugs me is why Gelman hasn't bothered to log back in to collect the fund sitting in his account.
Something happened to him but who knows what. We hope for the best but embrace for the worst.
Car accident. Fredflintstone already said that. And auto-withdraw means the funds don't sit in his account, they go to 3 bitcoin addresses of his choice. So he wouldn't need to log it. And I already mentioned the auto-withdraw before. Vendors have an auto-withdraw option. It automatically transfers finalized-funds, instead of sitting them in the account.
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Car accident. Fredflintstone already said that. And auto-withdraw means the funds don't sit in his account, they go to 3 bitcoin addresses of his choice. So he wouldn't need to log it. And I already mentioned the auto-withdraw before. Vendors have an auto-withdraw option. It automatically transfers finalized-funds, instead of sitting them in the account.
Cool. Wasn't aware of the auto-withdraw option. I guess that explains it for now.
I hope all is well with Gelman as he was a great vendor. Also, can't really blame the folks getting uppity when a great vendor goes MIA suddenly with pending orders.
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Car accident. Fredflintstone already said that. And auto-withdraw means the funds don't sit in his account, they go to 3 bitcoin addresses of his choice. So he wouldn't need to log it. And I already mentioned the auto-withdraw before. Vendors have an auto-withdraw option. It automatically transfers finalized-funds, instead of sitting them in the account.
Cool. Wasn't aware of the auto-withdraw option. I guess that explains it for now.
I hope all is well with Gelman as he was a great vendor. Also, can't really blame the folks getting uppity when a great vendor goes MIA suddenly with pending orders.
Yep! So now you, and hopefully everyone else, knows not to really worry.
But, seriously, clean your drop anyway, or something. A little paranoia is acceptable, after all. Unfounded conjecture from the tinfoil-tuxedo crowd? Not so much.
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
exactly
now i need to wait 5 days for a refund. all in all 100% refund is not even going to cut it, 150% is more like it. the extra 50% for wasting my fucking time and possibly burning my drop.
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
exactly
You're talking like a car crash is a minor thing that anyone can walk away from. It could have been a bad accident. He could be in the hospital. You know that thing I said, about the tinfoil-tuxedo crowd? You two are part of it. :/
YES. For fucks sake, if you are demanding the vendor to be around after he gets in a fucking accident, you are being an unreasonable shitbag. For the love of fuck, and for fuck's sake, give the healing man a fucking break you paranoid junkie motherfuckers.
If a man does his own business and;
He gets in a car accident and;
He and/or the car is disabled and;
He uses smart-shipping practices and;
He will get his finalized money whether he logs in or not...
Why the fuck would the result be anything BUT what you've seen here?
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
exactly
You're talking like a car crash is a minor thing that anyone can walk away from. It could have been a bad accident. He could be in the hospital. You know that thing I said, about the tinfoil-tuxedo crowd? You two are part of it. :/
YES. For fucks sake, if you are demanding the vendor to be around after he gets in a fucking accident, you are being an unreasonable shitbag. For the love of fuck, and for fuck's sake, give the healing man a fucking break you paranoid junkie motherfuckers.
If a man does his own business and;
He gets in a car accident and;
He and/or the car is disabled and;
He uses smart-shipping practices and;
He will get his finalized money whether he logs in or not...
Why the fuck would the result be anything BUT what you've seen here?
ive seen and heard one to many car crash story's. My mom is dieing, i got cancer...ect and then it turns out the vendor was busted. I dont know how long you have been around but its all too common.
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
exactly
You're talking like a car crash is a minor thing that anyone can walk away from. It could have been a bad accident. He could be in the hospital. You know that thing I said, about the tinfoil-tuxedo crowd? You two are part of it. :/
YES. For fucks sake, if you are demanding the vendor to be around after he gets in a fucking accident, you are being an unreasonable shitbag. For the love of fuck, and for fuck's sake, give the healing man a fucking break you paranoid junkie motherfuckers.
If a man does his own business and;
He gets in a car accident and;
He and/or the car is disabled and;
He uses smart-shipping practices and;
He will get his finalized money whether he logs in or not...
Why the fuck would the result be anything BUT what you've seen here?
ive seen and heard one to many car crash story's. My mom is dieing, i got cancer...ect and then it turns out the vendor was busted. I dont know how long you have been around but its all too common.
Sympathy first, suspicion second. If Gelman is a good vendor, no customer information is available to any LE that may have busted him. So, again, sympathy first and suspicion second. If he comes back and changes his PGP key, don't trust him. If he comes back and resumes business with no problems, trust him. Gelman isn't around but someone who possibly knew him from elsewhere is assuring people of stuff.
Now, to put on my tinfoil hat for a bit, fredflintstone... did gelman independently verify that he knew this guy, or was it all from fred's side? Because that's the guy you should be worrying about, depending on how that stuff went. Plus, fred is setting up shop now while gelman is conspicuously out of business...
Not for nothing, but if someone is going to look suspicious, from what I've paid attention to(which isn't everything), fred is the one I'd worry about.
You can see how long I've been around, though. I'm the 14th user to register on the forums, after all.
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
exactly
You're talking like a car crash is a minor thing that anyone can walk away from. It could have been a bad accident. He could be in the hospital. You know that thing I said, about the tinfoil-tuxedo crowd? You two are part of it. :/
YES. For fucks sake, if you are demanding the vendor to be around after he gets in a fucking accident, you are being an unreasonable shitbag. For the love of fuck, and for fuck's sake, give the healing man a fucking break you paranoid junkie motherfuckers.
If a man does his own business and;
He gets in a car accident and;
He and/or the car is disabled and;
He uses smart-shipping practices and;
He will get his finalized money whether he logs in or not...
Why the fuck would the result be anything BUT what you've seen here?
ive seen and heard one to many car crash story's. My mom is dieing, i got cancer...ect and then it turns out the vendor was busted. I dont know how long you have been around but its all too common.
Sympathy first, suspicion second. If Gelman is a good vendor, no customer information is available to any LE that may have busted him. So, again, sympathy first and suspicion second. If he comes back and changes his PGP key, don't trust him. If he comes back and resumes business with no problems, trust him. Gelman isn't around but someone who possibly knew him from elsewhere is assuring people of stuff.
Now, to put on my tinfoil hat for a bit, fredflintstone... did gelman independently verify that he knew this guy, or was it all from fred's side? Because that's the guy you should be worrying about, depending on how that stuff went. Plus, fred is setting up shop now while gelman is conspicuously out of business...
Not for nothing, but if someone is going to look suspicious, from what I've paid attention to(which isn't everything), fred is the one I'd worry about.
You can see how long I've been around, though. I'm the 14th user to register on the forums, after all.
you make good points. im just playing it out as he got caught at a drop and the packs are now in police hands. drops are burnt, names are burnt and i really dont doubt that the police would serve a warrant or two seeing as it was not a small amount. maybe the 1st part of being caught at drop point is untrue but should the packs be taken away then its just a simple case of your looking at a chance of a boot.
as for sympathy i have none. Guy wasted my time and instead of making some money and having a good time its stress an checking for painters vans or what have you by my drop.
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He updated you that he was in a car crash when...
.. and that still doesn't explain why he couldn't then just drop off the shit at a later time.
Because he gets in a car accident he's just going to disappear completely and not send the rest of the people their shit? Or even let them know...?
He's just going to leave it to chance that someone he knows is going to check the forum and be his messenger?
Something smells off. Either bullshit off, or fishy off.
exactly
You're talking like a car crash is a minor thing that anyone can walk away from. It could have been a bad accident. He could be in the hospital. You know that thing I said, about the tinfoil-tuxedo crowd? You two are part of it. :/
YES. For fucks sake, if you are demanding the vendor to be around after he gets in a fucking accident, you are being an unreasonable shitbag. For the love of fuck, and for fuck's sake, give the healing man a fucking break you paranoid junkie motherfuckers.
If a man does his own business and;
He gets in a car accident and;
He and/or the car is disabled and;
He uses smart-shipping practices and;
He will get his finalized money whether he logs in or not...
Why the fuck would the result be anything BUT what you've seen here?
ive seen and heard one to many car crash story's. My mom is dieing, i got cancer...ect and then it turns out the vendor was busted. I dont know how long you have been around but its all too common.
Sympathy first, suspicion second. If Gelman is a good vendor, no customer information is available to any LE that may have busted him. So, again, sympathy first and suspicion second. If he comes back and changes his PGP key, don't trust him. If he comes back and resumes business with no problems, trust him. Gelman isn't around but someone who possibly knew him from elsewhere is assuring people of stuff.
Now, to put on my tinfoil hat for a bit, fredflintstone... did gelman independently verify that he knew this guy, or was it all from fred's side? Because that's the guy you should be worrying about, depending on how that stuff went. Plus, fred is setting up shop now while gelman is conspicuously out of business...
Not for nothing, but if someone is going to look suspicious, from what I've paid attention to(which isn't everything), fred is the one I'd worry about.
You can see how long I've been around, though. I'm the 14th user to register on the forums, after all.
you make good points. im just playing it out as he got caught at a drop and the packs are now in police hands. drops are burnt, names are burnt and i really dont doubt that the police would serve a warrant or two seeing as it was not a small amount. maybe the 1st part of being caught at drop point is untrue but should the packs be taken away then its just a simple case of your looking at a chance of a boot.
as for sympathy i have none. Guy wasted my time and instead of making some money and having a good time its stress an checking for painters vans or what have you by my drop.
Just don't sign, if you're asked to sign for something that you wouldn't/shouldn't be signing for. It's true that they could get a warrant to search a receiver's house, but only if LE is already aware of what the package contains.
I don't know the rules about opening mail before it's in the postal system, but I'm pretty sure LE would still need a warrant for that, so picking up Gelman at a drop shouldn't actually compromise the customers, unless LE happened to have a drug-dog that detected it. Hypothetically speaking, that is.
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If you guys want to believe he is LE, I cant stop ya.
Just telling ya what he told me. You guys are right, the dates dont add up .. but we didnt have a prolonged talk or even a 1 to 1 talk at all, it was just a message he left on his thread so maybe it was a mistake on the date, I dont know. He maybe is loopy, who knows
" Sorry for the disappearance. I was going to drop SR orders on 9/12 late at night, when I was t-boned by a drunk driver on the passenger side of my car. My friend is in critical condition, but I got away with only a broken leg and a fracture in the other a long with with some minor head injuries. They put me in a medical coma the first three days though. This is the first day I've been able to get a laptop up and get on the board. ..... I'll still be around but it's going to be take me awhile to be fully recovered so I won't be able to vend online for the time being. "
Anytime anyone goes missing, I guess its a good idea to suspect the worst. But in my opinion having known and worked with this individual a very long time, he is fine and has simply neglected the SR market he didnt respect in the first place in lieu of other pressing issues.
I would assume no orders were shipped, or are gonna be shipped and refunds should be requested. He isnt coming back to the scene in general for a while it sounds like and here wont be his first stop anyways I am sure.
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If you guys want to believe he is LE, I cant stop ya.
Just telling ya what he told me. You guys are right, the dates dont add up .. but we didnt have a prolonged talk or even a 1 to 1 talk at all, it was just a message he left on his thread so maybe it was a mistake on the date, I dont know. He maybe is loopy, who knows
" Sorry for the disappearance. I was going to drop SR orders on 9/12 late at night, when I was t-boned by a drunk driver on the passenger side of my car. My friend is in critical condition, but I got away with only a broken leg and a fracture in the other a long with with some minor head injuries. They put me in a medical coma the first three days though. This is the first day I've been able to get a laptop up and get on the board. ..... I'll still be around but it's going to be take me awhile to be fully recovered so I won't be able to vend online for the time being. "
Anytime anyone goes missing, I guess its a good idea to suspect the worst. But in my opinion having known and worked with this individual a very long time, he is fine and has simply neglected the SR market he didnt respect in the first place in lieu of other pressing issues.
I would assume no orders were shipped, or are gonna be shipped and refunds should be requested. He isnt coming back to the scene in general for a while it sounds like and here wont be his first stop anyways I am sure.
I don't know if this is sheer paranoia but last time you mentioned you've gotten in touch with Gelman, you just said he was just busy with school stuff. Now, this story became a full blown out heavy impact car accident that landed him in the hospital.
I'd think if someone had such a big accident, that would be the first thing that would be discussed, not busy school work.
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This is the vendor equivalent of "the dog ate my homework."
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This is the vendor equivalent of "the dog ate my drugs."
fixed.
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everyone should just ask for a refund because these orders werent sent and nothing is coming.
clean house if you think this is suspicious, or dont.
gelman is gone, he isnt gonna be back selling on silk road.
thats the gist of it.
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whole situation = lame
shouldnt have let that happen, overall lazy dude probably sells too much IRL to give a shit about "that interweb stuffs"
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So it looks like that gelman won't be around for awhile...Rainbow Vomit doesn't have anything ins stock...a little bummed as it appears I missed the boat on the domestic quality brown sugar MDMA with impressive feedback. Anyone else know of legit high quality molly vendors, either SR or private? Would love to pick up a little of gelmans's product if anyone is still holding...
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So it looks like that gelman won't be around for awhile...Rainbow Vomit doesn't have anything ins stock...a little bummed as it appears I missed the boat on the domestic quality brown sugar MDMA with impressive feedback. Anyone else know of legit high quality molly vendors, either SR or private? Would love to pick up a little of gelmans's product if anyone is still holding...
I just ordered from SilentBob ... should have the package within the week. All his reviews are nothing short of amazing and his product looks top-notch for a decent price considering it is within the borders of the US.
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didn't schizofreen get in a car accident to? damn mdma vendors getting into car accidents, just their luck.
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Everyone can take this for what they want but talked to a guy that was at a music festival this past weekend that was selling the same stuff he said this was going to be the last of it cause the main guy got popped at electric zoo aug31st - sept 2nd. dont know if that helps or not just passing along any info that may help.
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Looking from the picture thats what I used to get all the time this shit is amazing, 2 points make your eyes jitter so bad that it is hard to see. I recommend this stuff, plus after a half g throughout the whole night, you realize you are tripping so hard.
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Why does everyone go to these electronic festivals especially downtown in a big city. Thats where the heat is at.
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no shit! wrong crowd also. too many kids seem to show up.
BM, shambhala, and local events for me :)
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Online vendors get in more car accidents then Nascar drivers hey lol.
Who knows what happened there, just know talking with Gelman he isnt coming back.
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funny how rainbow and Gel are both MIA at same time HMMMMMMM....coincidence?
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no shit! wrong crowd also. too many kids seem to show up.
BM, shambhala, and local events for me :)
ya I feel you there...it's all about the underground. I haven't been to a proper underground/outdoor event in years...is Moon Tribe still doing their thing? Someone hook me up with a link. :) And now back to our regular scheduled program....someone somehow pick up where Gelman left off...I gotta procure some of that brown sugar!
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@ toochill ill tell u where the brown sand is for a BTC :P
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RV left at least a month before Gelman left.
So while they are both gone at the same time, it was at the same time they left.
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RV left at least a month before Gelman left.
So while they are both gone at the same time, it was at the same time they left.
I really hope someone comes back with a batch like Gelman (or RV) had.....
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Due to the fact he is MIA, will a refund from him by the resolve button effect my account stats?
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Refunds should not affect your buyer stats.
This is from personal experience when a vendor ignored resolution ... SR ruled in my favor and my buyer stats didn't change.
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I finally got around to trying some from the sample-gram that gelman sent back... ever so long ago. It was great. I can see why you MDMA-loving folks love it so much.
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I got my refund. Gelman has not logged in for weeks now. You will def get your money back and not have any negative buyer stats. My refund rate is still 0% even after getting a refund. I am sure they take it into account that he has not logged in and the fact that he does not have any counter-proposals in resolution. Now I am just waiting for afterhour/dutchaanbod to get their listings up so I can use the money I had tied up with Gelman to get some good stuff for cheap.
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anybody notice what is going on with Gelman's account? It seems like its no longer a vendor account.. there's no feedback rating at all now.. anyway, I rec'd my order (was one of his last) but im anxiously waiting another order (intl) that was expected to come earlier this week and is taking a bit longer than usual.. and i notice i did not get a single piece of mail yesterday (just adverts/flyers) and today only one piece of parcel came in from a well know etailer.. i hope im not buying into the paranoia that gelman's acct has been compromised and our buyers addresses have been flagged?
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anybody notice what is going on with Gelman's account? It seems like its no longer a vendor account.. there's no feedback rating at all now.. anyway, I rec'd my order (was one of his last) but im anxiously waiting another order (intl) that was expected to come earlier this week and is taking a bit longer than usual.. and i notice i did not get a single piece of mail yesterday (just adverts/flyers) and today only one piece of parcel came in from a well know etailer.. i hope im not buying into the paranoia that gelman's acct has been compromised and our buyers addresses have been flagged?
Same thing happened with other vendors. Either they took it down or it was suspended. It goes straight to 'send a message' when clicking on their profile.
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Not to pile on the sorrow in this thread, but I just got around to trying out my order from Gelman (one of his last orders) and HO-LY-SHIT it was amazing. Best MDMA I've ever taken. So bummed that he's not around anymore. I'm hoping another vendor out there can provide a similar product, but damn that's going to be hard.
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I got 3 grams from rainbow vomit and though I didn't take any my friends loved it. I was going to grab an OZ from Gelman and then all this shit went down. Someone in another thread about this Molly said he/she supplied both RV and Gelman with that stuff so maybe that person could do the world a favor and open a vendor account or send me that ish to sell. 8)
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I got 3 grams from rainbow vomit and though I didn't take any my friends loved it. I was going to grab an OZ from Gelman and then all this shit went down. Someone in another thread about this Molly said he/she supplied both RV and Gelman with that stuff so maybe that person could do the world a favor and open a vendor account or send me that ish to sell. 8)
Wish I had gotten some. The batch that HollyMolly has looks like brown sand, but shes from Germany. I hope someone fills the void soon.
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I got 3 grams from rainbow vomit and though I didn't take any my friends loved it. I was going to grab an OZ from Gelman and then all this shit went down. Someone in another thread about this Molly said he/she supplied both RV and Gelman with that stuff so maybe that person could do the world a favor and open a vendor account or send me that ish to sell. 8)
Wish I had gotten some. The batch that HollyMolly has looks like brown sand, but shes from Germany. I hope someone fills the void soon.
I heard from a very random lsd thread lol and a new vendor was gauging interest and he was vouched for by who I consider one of the 10 most reputable people hear and and I guess he knows him in real life but long story short he was also going to be selling the same "canadian" mdma as Gelman but made a joke saying he can't remember the last time he got in a car accident though!! So I think this is what happened.. just my two senses.. a very reliable, trusted member here!!
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In case people haven't noticed the vendor LuckyLucianno is selling the same stuff as Gelman. He was Gelman's supplier.
I finally got around to trying some of Gelman's brown sand. I'm kind of confused why so many people say it's the best stuff they've ever done.
Ok, so I took 110mg and then a couple of small dips later on in the night. I head a pretty smooth and mellow roll. I wasn't even in the mood to dance which is unusual.
Maybe I should have made my initial dose like 150 or higher. Based on the dose of 110 I've had much better MDMA from Ivory and others. Maybe this is just too mellow for my taste and I like the speedier stuff.
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Weight, tolerance, set and setting, etc. are all factors. When was your last usage? Also, take a larger initial dose as you said. There is no need for the additional "dips", especially after T+1:00; if anything, stick to a single half dose booster. You are only increasing neurotoxicity and overall negative effects by ingesting more MDMA.
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It had been 4 weeks for me. I don't think it was the set and setting this time since I was out to a club with friends and was having fun. I don't have anything bad to say about Gelman's stuff. But wasn't the best I've ever done.
It also gave me much more jaw clenching than other stuff I've tried. But I did forget to take magnesium this time, which I usually do to help the jaw clenching.
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I got 1g of his K and it was bomb. Wish he was still around.
Luckyluciano doesn't have an active vendor account.
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spelt LuckyLucianno
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4 weeks isn't long enough as its been hypothesized by the Shulgins. Everyone should really read his cognitive blog and have his books for reference.
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4 weeks isn't long enough as its been hypothesized by the Shulgins. Everyone should really read his cognitive blog and have his books for reference.
It's 3 months, isn't it? That's what I'm aiming for.
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4 weeks isn't long enough as its been hypothesized by the Shulgins. Everyone should really read his cognitive blog and have his books for reference.
It's 3 months, isn't it? That's what I'm aiming for.
Correct. He recommends once a quarter.
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4 weeks isn't long enough as its been hypothesized by the Shulgins. Everyone should really read his cognitive blog and have his books for reference.
It's 3 months, isn't it? That's what I'm aiming for.
Correct. He recommends once a quarter.
Right now, it's been a week since I had gelman's stuff. The next 11 weeks are going to be annoying to wait through... it's just so good.
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4 weeks isn't long enough as its been hypothesized by the Shulgins. Everyone should really read his cognitive blog and have his books for reference.
It's 3 months, isn't it? That's what I'm aiming for.
Correct. He recommends once a quarter.
Yeah, I'm sure 3 months is ideal, but boy that is a long time to wait! I do a lot of things to help my brain recover, so I hope that taking it once every 3-4 weeks isn't too bad for me.
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I'm with you spin...about 3-4 weeks, 5htp and L-tyrosine everyday in between. I didn't start taking 5-htp until earlier this year but I definitely notice a difference in my rolls when I take it as opposed to not
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I'm with you spin...about 3-4 weeks, 5htp and L-tyrosine everyday in between. I didn't start taking 5-htp until earlier this year but I definitely notice a difference in my rolls when I take it as opposed to not
Taking 5-htp on a regular basis, especially consistently between frequent MDMA use is going to result in serotonin syndrome. L-Tyrosine is ok but unless you're a vegan, you already consume quite a bit of tryptophan (which 5-htp converts to) via meat and dairy. I'm not saying tryptophan is better, but you're already getting it.
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I'm with you spin...about 3-4 weeks, 5htp and L-tyrosine everyday in between. I didn't start taking 5-htp until earlier this year but I definitely notice a difference in my rolls when I take it as opposed to not
Taking 5-htp on a regular basis, especially consistently between frequent MDMA use is going to result in serotonin syndrome. L-Tyrosine is ok but unless you're a vegan, you already consume quite a bit of tryptophan (which 5-htp converts to) via meat and dairy. I'm not saying tryptophan is better, but you're already getting it.
Tryptophan actually converts into hydroxytryptophan so that it can cross the blood brain barrier. It's also been hypothesized that only 1% or less of tryptophan from diet makes it into the brain.
I only use 5-htp for 7 days after mdma. I use extended release tablets.
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I used to take melatonin and diphenhydramine (but not during the same time period) to help with my sleeping patterns but I woke up feeling like shit with these. Thats the reason I started using 5htp...because (for me) it works as a milder sedative when I'm trying to sleep. I'm well aware of seratonin syndrome...and I now that I think about it, what I wrote makes it seems like I'm an abuser but I can assure you that I'm not (not anymore) lol. I used twice in the past few months just to make sure what I was buying wasnt crap (because I was reselling it). But now that I've backed off selling it, I probably won't do it for a while. I've turned my eyes to a new prize...m1! Tehehe
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baranliam what is M1?
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Its methylone (beta-keto mdma). It produces similar, but not as intense, effects as mdma. It releases dopamine as well as serotonin (at roughly 1/3 potency/weight as mdma) which is why a lot of folks, including me, find it an enjoyable drug. Its quite a bit speedier (bc its a cathinone), but people love it where I live because they can take it 2-3 times/week and be fine. Instead of taking it once every couple of months like you're supposed to do with mdma.
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Try some GABA and Chelated Magnesium with a B Complex vitamin. They'll help with sleep and reduce oxidative stress.
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Try some GABA and Chelated Magnesium with a B Complex vitamin. They'll help with sleep and reduce oxidative stress.
Hero member?
GABA doesn't cross the BBB, so it's useless if taken orally. Check wikipedia if you don't believe me.
Magnesium isn't for sleep or oxidative stress, it's for relieving muscle tension.
Vitamin C and ALA are the two most important ways of reducing oxidative stress (aka neurotoxicity) from MDMA. I can post sources if needed.
I'm not writing this to show you up, so don't take it as disrespect.
I'm writing this because people around here should know the correct ways of lowering the potential for neurotoxicity.
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Try some GABA and Chelated Magnesium with a B Complex vitamin. They'll help with sleep and reduce oxidative stress.
Hero member?
GABA doesn't cross the BBB, so it's useless if taken orally. Check wikipedia if you don't believe me.
Magnesium isn't for sleep or oxidative stress, it's for relieving muscle tension.
Vitamin C and ALA are the two most important ways of reducing oxidative stress (aka neurotoxicity) from MDMA. I can post sources if needed.
I'm not writing this to show you up, so don't take it as disrespect.
I'm writing this because people around here should know the correct ways of lowering the potential for neurotoxicity.
1. Yes, I am a hero member.
2. GABA by itself wouldn't pass by itself no, which is why I pair it with a B-Complex vitamin. Vitamin B3 and Vitamin B6 binds with GABA and allows them to enter the brain more readily than they would otherwise. As for Chelated Magnesium ... relieving muscle tension helps me sleep better ... it also calms excess brain activity which is also nice for sleep.
3. The subject is sleep aids that are not stress-producing as 5-htp is known for. To reduce oxidative stress in general ... Vitamin C and ALA are good ones, thanks for sharing.
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So any word on what happened? Too weird that he didn't come collect a load of money.
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He was in a car crash.
As far as I know orders didnt go out, so there was no money to claim.
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He was in a car crash.
As far as I know orders didnt go out, so there was no money to claim.
LOL, is that the only excuse people can come up with around here?
This is probably around the 5th time at least I've heard that from vendors...
Oh well, at least he didn't run away with everyone's money.
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Its a fact that online drug vendors get in 1000% more car accidents then normal human beings. A FACT.
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hahaha yes, can't question facts like that it must be true.