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Title: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: trapmusic on August 08, 2013, 05:16 pm
Are there any pills that make you more extravert but not get you all fucked up? Like if I had to go to a job interview but usually are not as open to new people?
Thank you
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: rainbowwaffle on August 08, 2013, 05:20 pm
modonifil gives you extra energy. like you don't need to sleep kinda energy, but not necessary an extravert substance. Xanax works best for me, but i'm an introvert because of social anxiety. if you are an introvert because you just cant find things to say, take some adderall. you will talk for hours.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: MoneyPakJack on August 08, 2013, 05:23 pm
It all depends on the person but maybe a low dose of amphetamine. Modanifl can make alot of people like that aswell. Modanifl would probably your best bet because it shouldn't be noticeable at all to them bet plus it wouldn't show up on the drug test i dont think.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: Itakethem2study on August 08, 2013, 05:27 pm
I also suffer from social anxiety and unfortunately, despite taking an ssri or whatever it's called .. use booze when i need to be social..
i feel your pain.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
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Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: rainbowwaffle on August 08, 2013, 05:40 pm
I also suffer from social anxiety and unfortunately, despite taking an ssri or whatever it's called .. use booze when i need to be social..
i feel your pain.

Talk to your Doc about getting on a mid to long lasting benzo to use in social situations where you can't (or it wouldn't be approved for you to) be drunk. Most doctors will throw SSRIs at people because they have so many different effects for so many different people. They will cure depression in one person, and give the next person insomnia and give the third person headaches. But if alcohol works for you, stick with it.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: tg00 on August 08, 2013, 05:40 pm
I also suffer from social anxiety and unfortunately, despite taking an ssri or whatever it's called .. use booze when i need to be social..
i feel your pain.

Same here man, I know that feel.

I have anxiety so bad sometimes i can't even leave the fucking house, Booze helps though, I find if i down a budweiser right before i want to go somewhere it takes the edge off of life, I would just go to a doctor but im to embarrased and not sure if i could even afford the medication atm anyway.

It's really kind of ruining my life but there is not much i can do about it.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: rainbowwaffle on August 08, 2013, 05:51 pm
I also suffer from social anxiety and unfortunately, despite taking an ssri or whatever it's called .. use booze when i need to be social..
i feel your pain.

Same here man, I know that feel.

I have anxiety so bad sometimes i can't even leave the fucking house, Booze helps though, I find if i down a budweiser right before i want to go somewhere it takes the edge off of life, I would just go to a doctor but im to embarrased and not sure if i could even afford the medication atm anyway.

It's really kind of ruining my life but there is not much i can do about it.

yo man, the scripts of benzos are some of the cheapest of all the prescriptions. even without insurance, a month supply would cost around 10$, maybe cheaper if you go to walmart or do a bit of shopping around. the most expensive part is definitely paying to see a doctor.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: tg00 on August 08, 2013, 06:01 pm
I also suffer from social anxiety and unfortunately, despite taking an ssri or whatever it's called .. use booze when i need to be social..
i feel your pain.

Same here man, I know that feel.

I have anxiety so bad sometimes i can't even leave the fucking house, Booze helps though, I find if i down a budweiser right before i want to go somewhere it takes the edge off of life, I would just go to a doctor but im to embarrased and not sure if i could even afford the medication atm anyway.

It's really kind of ruining my life but there is not much i can do about it.

yo man, the scripts of benzos are some of the cheapest of all the prescriptions. even without insurance, a month supply would cost around 10$, maybe cheaper if you go to walmart or do a bit of shopping around. the most expensive part is definitely paying to see a doctor.

Maybe i should just fork out the money and go see a doctor.

The only thing i worried about is would being diagnosed with an anxiety disorder hurt my chances of getting a job or maybe even look bad on my record? Maybe im just being paranoid but it seems something like that might just be used against me.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: postrex on August 08, 2013, 06:08 pm
Have you tried stimulant medications before at a low dose?
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: tree on August 08, 2013, 06:23 pm
Opiates usually work very well for that. A medium dose of oxy or vicodin will still leave you functional and not make you talk people's ears off like on stimulants, while making you a lot more social. Benzos are also kind of good but IME they make me not want to talk much and makes it difficult to speak loud enough because of the sedation.. A low dose of xanax would be the best bet for a benzo. Etizolam should be good too but I don't have any experience with it. Opiates work the best for that IMO, they make you not talk too much like on speed or too little like on benzos.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: trapmusic on August 08, 2013, 06:35 pm
im glad to see im not the only one... it looks like adderall would be the right thing but they dont have it in germany and that shit is expensive on SR...
booze just isnt possible in every situation... i just want something that is cheap and makes me talk all the time lol im pretty sure i could control it in a way that i talk less...
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: microbabe on August 08, 2013, 06:59 pm
Low dose of good quality MDMA.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: postrex on August 08, 2013, 07:14 pm
im glad to see im not the only one... it looks like adderall would be the right thing but they dont have it in germany and that shit is expensive on SR...
booze just isnt possible in every situation... i just want something that is cheap and makes me talk all the time lol im pretty sure i could control it in a way that i talk less...
Try Dexedrine at a very low dose - 5mg or even 2.5mg.  Pure d-amp tends to be much preferable for social situations, and is less likely to have you blabbing like a lune then the adderall mixed-salts.

We just sent a shipment to Germany the other day actually.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: ic3m4l3 on August 08, 2013, 07:15 pm
hwat does extrevert mean then?
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: postrex on August 08, 2013, 08:02 pm
hwat does extrevert mean then?
Extrovert - to have a outgoing, talkative, energetic personality. A contrast to introvert - being reserved and solitary.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: bengalFire on August 08, 2013, 08:05 pm
Outgoing, not awkward, willing to talk to strangers
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: tree on August 08, 2013, 10:05 pm
im glad to see im not the only one... it looks like adderall would be the right thing but they dont have it in germany and that shit is expensive on SR...
booze just isnt possible in every situation... i just want something that is cheap and makes me talk all the time lol im pretty sure i could control it in a way that i talk less...

Dexedrine and Adderall are better but good speed (from CapeCrusader for example) has a much much better value.. Maybe you could try ritalin too, it's cheaper. If you have the money and want a good stimulant, go with dexedrine.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: trapmusic on August 08, 2013, 10:16 pm
alright thank you all for these suggestions. I'll definitely try some out. There is just one more question that came into my mind:
Why do meds that are made to get hyper people to stay calm (so to talk less etc.) also work to get people to be more outgoing? That are two opposite effects? lol
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: anonski888 on August 08, 2013, 10:19 pm
modonifil gives you extra energy. like you don't need to sleep kinda energy, but not necessary an extravert substance. Xanax works best for me, but i'm an introvert because of social anxiety. if you are an introvert because you just cant find things to say, take some adderall. you will talk for hours.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 08, 2013, 10:50 pm
Xanax man, or Ecstacy, or Adderall
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: anonski888 on August 08, 2013, 11:58 pm
Etizolams. Just do not abuse.
MDMA for those occasions.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: dotgoat on August 09, 2013, 12:07 am
I also suffer from social anxiety and unfortunately, despite taking an ssri or whatever it's called .. use booze when i need to be social..
i feel your pain.

Same, actually there's a LOT of people that have some sort of clinical depression.  Most just never talk about it.  I hardly mention it because before when I have people started to tell me I shouldn't do certain things and should do others.  I've had this shit for a damn long time I'm aware of what I can do.  My biggest problem is the type of depression I have (dysthymia, look it up) essentially means without anything I kinda feel like shit all the time.  BUT, on medicine (prozac in my case) takes my slight mood changes and raises them a bit.  So now I'm not particularly depressed but not particularly happy either.

And yeah I use booze, or one of the various ecstasy variants out there (personal fave is MDA I believe, the one that lasts a little longer than MDMA and a little trippy).  But it's obvious most people are on that...
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: dotgoat on August 09, 2013, 12:12 am
alright thank you all for these suggestions. I'll definitely try some out. There is just one more question that came into my mind:
Why do meds that are made to get hyper people to stay calm (so to talk less etc.) also work to get people to be more outgoing? That are two opposite effects? lol

I don't even know if doctors know.  Hell they've been researching ketamine as an anti-depressant and they have no idea why.  They're trying to narrow down the formula to eliminate the... side-effects.

It's actually a way to know if you REALLY have something like ADD.  If you take something speedy like amphetamine or meth or something and you don't get any sorta energy boost but feel REALLY focused, you pretty much confirmed you have ADD (obviously I'm not a doctor and you should consult one blah blah blah). I have a friend that while us close group of 3 or 4 friends do anything like speed we're all wired but he's just focused.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: postrex on August 09, 2013, 12:13 am
alright thank you all for these suggestions. I'll definitely try some out. There is just one more question that came into my mind:
Why do meds that are made to get hyper people to stay calm (so to talk less etc.) also work to get people to be more outgoing? That are two opposite effects? lol
It's a misconception that stimulants make you hyper - they will provide increased energy to an extent, but increased hyperactivity will only occur with larger doses.  Stimulants medications administered in more moderate doses work by making everything seem more interesting - whatever you are doing you will be engaged and interested.  Basically, think of something you love doing and can be engaged by for hours.  Take some Dexedrine, and you will feel like that about almost anything you do.  That's why these medications work so well for people with ADHD - they makes it easier to concentrate on a given task because it is simply more engaging and stimulating.

Higher doses will of course produce more profound effects, up to and beyond increased hyperactivity.  But for social situations, 5mg (or even just 2.5mg) of pure Dexedrine is plenty for most people to feel engaged and social.

If you're ever curious about Dexedrine or stimulants in general, feel free to send me a message on SR.  Am happy to answer questions, as I consider stimulants the second most interesting drug-class (#1 being psychedelics).
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: dotgoat on August 09, 2013, 12:17 am
modonifil gives you extra energy. like you don't need to sleep kinda energy, but not necessary an extravert substance. Xanax works best for me, but i'm an introvert because of social anxiety. if you are an introvert because you just cant find things to say, take some adderall. you will talk for hours.

Getting back on topic, +1 for modafinil / provigil. It was intended for people that get uncontrollably sleepy during the day (like the opposite of insomnia).  I've taken it several times at work and no one is the wiser.  It's also possible with enough hunting to find on the clearnet from one of those no prescription needed places. But beware of scams. Also a fun fact, modalert and probably other generics are manufactured in India (I'm sure a lot of drugs are made in India...) so don't be surprised to see sellers located in india selling modafinil or similar.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: postrex on August 09, 2013, 12:19 am
It's actually a way to know if you REALLY have something like ADD.  If you take something speedy like amphetamine or meth or something and you don't get any sorta energy boost but feel REALLY focused, you pretty much confirmed you have ADD (obviously I'm not a doctor and you should consult one blah blah blah). I have a friend that while us close group of 3 or 4 friends do anything like speed we're all wired but he's just focused.
That is probably much more related to tolerance.  People without ADHD can still achieve significant focus and performance benefits from stimulants, but the doses are often smaller.  Also, "speed" is a really bad gauge of how amphetamines work - mixed salts have a jittery and hyper effects increase over pure d-amp, and this is more severe in people that have poor attention shifting performance (those without ADHD).

Also, many people with severe ADHD will respond poorly to meth.  For some people, it is a miracle.  For most, it just causes excessive hyperactivity.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: dotgoat on August 09, 2013, 12:47 am
It's actually a way to know if you REALLY have something like ADD.  If you take something speedy like amphetamine or meth or something and you don't get any sorta energy boost but feel REALLY focused, you pretty much confirmed you have ADD (obviously I'm not a doctor and you should consult one blah blah blah). I have a friend that while us close group of 3 or 4 friends do anything like speed we're all wired but he's just focused.
That is probably much more related to tolerance.  People without ADHD can still achieve significant focus and performance benefits from stimulants, but the doses are often smaller.  Also, "speed" is a really bad gauge of how amphetamines work - mixed salts have a jittery and hyper effects increase over pure d-amp, and this is more severe in people that have poor attention shifting performance (those without ADHD).

Also, many people with severe ADHD will respond poorly to meth.  For some people, it is a miracle.  For most, it just causes excessive hyperactivity.

Yeah his tolerance is pretty high as well.  Not sure how that works when he goes see his doctor (he's prescribed amphetamine). Obviously he can't go to the doctor and be all "hey, these aren't working any more can you just double my prescription plz? kthx"  Granted I have my doubts he takes them as prescribed. For example I'm prescribed valium for social anxiety/"panic attacks" (that's why I call them but don't think they're what most people consider panic attacks) and it's 1/2 - 1 pill as needed and it's only 5mg. and they're still really cautious about prescribing it (had serax before but during one of my "panic attacks" valium kicks in faster).
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: postrex on August 09, 2013, 02:00 am
Yeah his tolerance is pretty high as well.  Not sure how that works when he goes see his doctor (he's prescribed amphetamine). Obviously he can't go to the doctor and be all "hey, these aren't working any more can you just double my prescription plz? kthx"  Granted I have my doubts he takes them as prescribed. For example I'm prescribed valium for social anxiety/"panic attacks" (that's why I call them but don't think they're what most people consider panic attacks) and it's 1/2 - 1 pill as needed and it's only 5mg. and they're still really cautious about prescribing it (had serax before but during one of my "panic attacks" valium kicks in faster).
Well, with ADHD, it basically comes down to evidence of childhood symptoms combined with continued affect on everyday function in adult life.  Then the doctor will gradually increase your dosage up to quite high as you return and describe the positive effects it has on your life heh. Considering Valium script, "as needed" medication is a lot harder to ask for increased doses of, because you basically have to show no improvement to the extent of detriment to your daily life before they will up your dosage very far.

Of course, it depends on the doctor too, but this seems to represent a pretty consistent attitude among MDs.
Title: Re: pills that make you extravert?
Post by: Dominowalker on August 09, 2013, 02:16 am
There's this stuff called NZT, heard it makes you limitless  ;D