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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: ignaxio on March 23, 2012, 07:29 am

Title: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: ignaxio on March 23, 2012, 07:29 am
Does anyone have experience in knowing if this is secure or not? I want to order some LSD for me and a friend, only like 10 doses on a blotter will do. If it's not really secure what's a better way you'd go about doing it? Dwolla is basically like paypal I've read, and I have one set up with my bank account for sending money to my gox account. I'm then going to transfer from my mt. gox account to silkroad, and am using made up information for the mt. gox account. I know it wouldn't be that hard to trace such a simple trade but I'm only trying to get a small amount of LSD and I'm just wondering if this seems like a safe enough method to you guys to go about doing it. I've read that LSD is one of the safest drugs to order because of it's small volume and similarity to paper in scanning, as well as the fact that it's odorless and such.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: HeyOItsMe2 on March 23, 2012, 09:26 am
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Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: ignaxio on March 23, 2012, 09:30 am
Alright great thanks for the reply, how much did you purchase from this method if you don't mind me asking? And how did you have it shipped, like to your home address? I don't think blotters would be too hard to remain inconspicuous in shipping to people looking through stuff.

Basically what I want to do is dwolla > mt. gox account > silkroad, and figure the rest out from there.
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: Oldtoker on March 23, 2012, 10:19 am
Alright great thanks for the reply, how much did you purchase from this method if you don't mind me asking? And how did you have it shipped, like to your home address? I don't think blotters would be too hard to remain inconspicuous in shipping to people looking through stuff.

Basically what I want to do is dwolla > mt. gox account > silkroad, and figure the rest out from there.

This will work if you trust SR to mix your coins as they say they do.  I just don't like trusting my security to someone else.  I move mine from Mt.Gox > BitInstant > Instawallet > Bitcoinfog > SR.

But maybe, I'm just too paranoid.   ;D
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: ignaxio on March 24, 2012, 12:32 am
Alright great thanks for the reply, how much did you purchase from this method if you don't mind me asking? And how did you have it shipped, like to your home address? I don't think blotters would be too hard to remain inconspicuous in shipping to people looking through stuff.

Basically what I want to do is dwolla > mt. gox account > silkroad, and figure the rest out from there.

This will work if you trust SR to mix your coins as they say they do.  I just don't like trusting my security to someone else.  I move mine from Mt.Gox > BitInstant > Instawallet > Bitcoinfog > SR.

But maybe, I'm just too paranoid.   ;D

Thanks a lot for the idea and reassurance, I'm a bit new to this as you can tell. I'd never heard of Bitcoinfog, but that seems very promising. I'll give that a shot then, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: HeyOItsMe2 on March 24, 2012, 12:34 am
Alright great thanks for the reply, how much did you purchase from this method if you don't mind me asking? And how did you have it shipped, like to your home address? I don't think blotters would be too hard to remain inconspicuous in shipping to people looking through stuff.

Basically what I want to do is dwolla > mt. gox account > silkroad, and figure the rest out from there.

Edit: removed for privacy.
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: ignaxio on March 24, 2012, 12:56 am
Alright great thanks for the reply, how much did you purchase from this method if you don't mind me asking? And how did you have it shipped, like to your home address? I don't think blotters would be too hard to remain inconspicuous in shipping to people looking through stuff.

Basically what I want to do is dwolla > mt. gox account > silkroad, and figure the rest out from there.

5 blotter once and 1 hit the next. so very small orders. One was from NL the other from Germany. To my home w/ my real name.

great, thanks again! starting to sound like a broken record here, haha.
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: spd on March 24, 2012, 02:26 am
I'm sure a lot of people have used that exact method for that exact product!  I think its a more secure like some people have said to have some extra step between Mtgox and SR (i use a bitcoin wallet) - but i didn't even know that when i did my first order.  and got doses from a few different countries, as well as domestic (even safer).  Also, learn how to use PGP encryption so only the vendor will be able to see your shipping address.

LSD is very hard to detect, and established sellers here can be pretty creative with shipping methods , so I wouldn't worry about that. 

Haven't tried him myself, but seems like "envious" is a good seller w/ good lsd, and is in the us.

Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: ignaxio on March 24, 2012, 02:39 am
Yeah, envious is exactly the vendor I'm hoping to buy from. I'm just waiting on some stuff in my bank to settle and to get all my bridging accounts set up and I'm set. I sent him a message regarding a final question I had, but perhaps you guys might also know the answer.

I see some vendors saying they don't accept escrow payments from new buyers like myself. But I was under the impression that every time I transfer coins from one wallet to the silk road that it was instantly put in my escrow? If that's the case, how else could I possibly pay a vendor if not out of my silkroad escrow?

Thanks again for all the help so far, seems like a really helpful community.
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: spd on March 24, 2012, 02:49 am
When sellers say they don't accept escrow, they are basically asking you to "Finalize Early".  Usually when you purchase an item here - the funds are taken out of your account, and put into escrow - then there is a button marked "Finalize" to click once you receive your order.  Once you finalize, the transaction is done - you can't file a complaint/ask for a refund/etc. 

When you finalize early, you finalize before the seller ships your item.  So if it never shows up, you dont have any recourse.  Overall, you want to avoid it if at all possible, but for your first buy or two, that might be tough. (Sellers are hesistant with new buyers - because some buyers will also try to scam by claiming to not have received product.)

i dont know envious' policy on that, but his seller page probably will let you know.  If you do finalize early with any seller, make sure to research them a bit here in the forums first
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: ignaxio on March 24, 2012, 02:53 am
ah yeah I understand now. He says he wants 0/0 customers to finalize early, which I'm assuming means brand new users like myself. That's reasonable enough, I can see why he'd do that and the feedback on him seems totally positive after a long time and he has lots of fans so I'll go ahead and take the jump. Thanks again for all the assistance. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Using Dwolla for bitcoins on a Mt. Gox account to get LSD?
Post by: spd on March 24, 2012, 03:08 am
No problem, i was in the same position 9 months or so ago, so good to spread the word on how things work.  for a while, there were a lot of people scamming people with acid, but you should be fine as long as you do a bit of research (coming to the forum before buying is the best way to go). 

it's a hell of a feeling the first time you get something in your hands from here, hard to believe it actually works!