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Title: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: goblin on March 17, 2013, 06:28 pm
http://rt.com/op-edge/us-spy-agencies-monitor-finances-nazi-311/

Nowhere to Run or Hide from America’s 'Financial Nazism'

By Max Keiser

March 16, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"RT" - ‘Nazi Germany’ is the phrase that immediately comes to mind from the recent reports that the US is planning to allow spy agencies to monitor every citizen’s finances.

When you read a sentence like, "The Obama administration is drawing up plans to give all US spy agencies full access to a massive database that contains financial data on American citizens and others who bank in the country," the pieces begin to fall into place. Remember how last year we learned that hedge funds hire former and active CIA agents to do research (read: espionage) to give them an edge?

Now, we understand that Eric Holder won't investigate or prosecute bankers and private equity funds for fear it might destabilize the economy (read: he's scared of them). The bottom line is that private equity and hedge funds – a massive, multi-trillion-dollar pool of unregulated, opaque capital controlled by corrupt insiders on Wall Street and Washington – have been given carte blanche to spy on people. That and, as was the case with JP Morgan and MF Global, steal money from customer accounts and use any information they glean to trade on inside information and manipulate markets with impunity.

For those who say, “Let them spy, I have nothing to hide!” I point your attention to 1938’s Kristallnacht, when the government of Hitler's Nazi Germany gave the all-clear for jackbooted thugs to rape, pillage and plunder with impunity. We now stand at a similar turning point: The financial-holocaust-provokers on Wall Street and the City of London have been given the all clear-sign from Washington and Number 10 to commit financial rape, pillage and plunder, with full cooperation and assistance from their respective intelligence communities.

Is it any wonder that a crypto currency like Bitcoin is now a half-billion-dollar currency that is growing exponentially, or that Kim Dotcom's Mega, an entirely encrypted site, is now starting to dominate the Internet?

Back in the 1930s, people had to flee Nazi Germany and run to countries where human rights like privacy were respected. Today, with a global banking and intelligence cartel spying on all communications and transactions everywhere, people are fleeing to Bitcoin and Mega.

Max Keiser, the host of RT's ‘Keiser Report,’ is a former stockbroker, the inventor of virtual specialist technology and co-founder of the Hollywood Stock Exchange.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: bull3gern on March 19, 2013, 12:44 am
To say that this is an embarassment for me as an American in a gross understatement. Nazi America is indeed what the USA is (has) become. I personally wish people (in the USA) would quit voting for Republicans AND Democrats because they both suck - F-- is their grade, and both parties need to vanish completely as neither have any inkling of what freedom is. One thinks freedom is to make all the money you can (off the backs of the poor), and the other embraces every form of fucked-up, nutty insane liberal bullshit one can imagine. I wish we had a lot more government leaders like Ron Paul (there are a couple of others, but that's about it) who espouse government staying the hell out of the citizendrie's lives. I hope it doesn't take another Civil War to do that...
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: modziw on March 19, 2013, 01:21 am
It's so fucked. I wish I had gotten multiple identities when it was easy.

I am thinking passports in other countries.

If anyone can help me open multiple bank accounts, I am all ears...

Modzi
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: RoxiPal on March 19, 2013, 08:49 pm
It's so fucked. I wish I had gotten multiple identities when it was easy.

I am thinking passports in other countries.

If anyone can help me open multiple bank accounts, I am all ears...

Modzi
It just takes more legwork (and naturally, money) these days to have backup identities and/or safe houses.  And as a result of the power of the omnipotent US Gov't, there's no guarantee your funds in said gray area accounts will be viable months down the road.  Gone are the days of friendly banks in the USA, the money has to go even further offshore than ever before.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ruby123 on March 20, 2013, 11:36 pm
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
Benito Mussolini

This is scarily a reality within the United States...ie "too big to fail"
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: modziw on March 21, 2013, 12:43 am
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
Benito Mussolini

This is scarily a reality within the United States...ie "too big to fail"

WOW Awesome quote!

+1

Modzi
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ruby123 on March 21, 2013, 03:24 am
I often wonder what would happen if more Americans studied history....
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: modziw on March 21, 2013, 04:05 am
The reason that America is stunted in it's education is due in great part to drugs. But not the drugs we deal here on SR, I am talking about the one refered to by Karl Marx:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

America's addiction to the absurdities of it's religions is causing the brain-death of it's people.

Modzi
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: sniper123 on March 21, 2013, 04:33 am
The reason that America is stunted in it's education is due in great part to drugs. But not the drugs we deal here on SR, I am talking about the one refered to by Karl Marx:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

America's addiction to the absurdities of it's religions is causing the brain-death of it's people.

Modzi
I think this is a broad over generalization. How come no one is questioning why do most text books come from the same publisher, author, and state?
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: modziw on March 21, 2013, 04:37 am
The reason that America is stunted in it's education is due in great part to drugs. But not the drugs we deal here on SR, I am talking about the one refered to by Karl Marx:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

America's addiction to the absurdities of it's religions is causing the brain-death of it's people.

Modzi
I think this is a broad over generalization. How come no one is questioning why do most text books come from the same publisher, author, and state?

LOL Dude, yours is a broad generalization. Where did you go to school, Oral Roberts?
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ChemCat on March 21, 2013, 06:27 am
The reason that America is stunted in it's education is due in great part to drugs. But not the drugs we deal here on SR, I am talking about the one refered to by Karl Marx:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

America's addiction to the absurdities of it's religions is causing the brain-death of it's people.

Modzi
I think this is a broad over generalization. How come no one is questioning why do most text books come from the same publisher, author, and state?
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LOL Dude, yours is a broad generalization. Where did you go to school, Oral Roberts?
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LOL Right On Modzi...

;)
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: EarlyCuylerTOR on March 25, 2013, 11:56 pm
The reason that America is stunted in it's education is due in great part to drugs. But not the drugs we deal here on SR, I am talking about the one refered to by Karl Marx:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

America's addiction to the absurdities of it's religions is causing the brain-death of it's people.

Modzi

I find that pretty silly myself as well.  Look at the public education system if you want somewhere to start.  There certainly isn't any religion there these days.  Look at tv, media, everything in our consumer culture.  Which organized religion has played its role, the consumerist lifestyle we have been taught to live and the INTENTIONAL dumbing down of education has done far more harm in the past 50 years than religion. 

He's right, that was a reach.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: modziw on March 26, 2013, 12:26 am
You know, it's like Friedrich Nietzsche used to say, "We're all fucked. Do drugs. Have a good time. You're going to die and then you don't have to worry about it."

Oh, no that wasn't Nietzsche, that was me.

Modzi
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: skeezoo8586 on March 26, 2013, 01:45 am
I often wonder what would happen if more Americans studied history....

had a history class where i learned that EVERY president in the first 100 years of USA history blatently and grossly broke major laws to pursue agenda that really came from a wider influence

i believe that tradition continues...
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ChemCat on March 26, 2013, 12:38 pm
what are bitcoins?

???
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: KaleidescopeVision on March 27, 2013, 03:10 am
So scared of America today.
I want to move and leave and run as far away as possible.
I will actually be keeping enough drugs on me to commit suicide as I see concentration camps in our near future.

It's Nazi America.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ChemCat on March 27, 2013, 03:17 am
hmmmm...it may be...and believe me when i say this...i'd love to restart in another country...but i'm here for now...
However..if being as educated as any middle schooler/JR. High schooler...would it be wrong of me to say to myself..
hey..self... look at the hiostory books...do ya think ya can handle the oppression??  (yes)  do ya think times will come around like they are now to other countries??  (yes) do you think if you make the right decisions....that you will profit ..or at least break even??  (yes)


i dont know where i am goin with this but please someone take over....


(Slaps Forehead)


Peace.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: EarlyCuylerTOR on March 29, 2013, 09:11 pm
do you think if you make the right decisions....that you will profit ..or at least break even??  (yes) 

....then congratulations, you are a capitalist! 

Seriously, we have to get this lie of "profit" out of our heads to have any chance.  Everything we have been taught about money is a lie.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ChemCat on March 29, 2013, 09:33 pm
when i say "Profit" i mean "Have the Extra Money To Pay my Bills"

Sorry i didnt mean to lead anyone to believe otherwise by my post  :P

Peace,

ChemCat

8)
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: ChemCat on March 29, 2013, 09:36 pm
Damn  :(

Now ya got me to Think i should leave SR cuz ima profiteering capitalist   :'(











Just Kiddin





















:P



I'm Happy the Way things have worked out and Thankful that i Found this place  LOL


:P

Peace,

ChemCat


8)
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: EarlyCuylerTOR on March 30, 2013, 08:50 pm
That's the dilemma, isn't it?  While on one hand I appreciate the service and the relative safety of SR, it's still a profiteering system that only exists because of an unjust war on personal freedom.  I find myself going further and further away from the "rah rah SR is AWESOME lol" crowd every day.
Title: Re: Nowhere to run or hide from America’s 'financial Nazism'
Post by: SgtMaj75 on March 30, 2013, 09:31 pm
Soon enough America will be plagued with highly intrusive surveillance in all aspects of life, comparable to that of the technology shown in the film "A Scanner Darkly".