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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: The Scientist on February 04, 2013, 06:25 pm

Title: Are young people today square?
Post by: The Scientist on February 04, 2013, 06:25 pm
Is it just me, or are young people today very square compared with the last generation? With regard to sex, drugs, musical tastes (e.g. justin bieber), etc.... it's like we are regressing to a pre-counterculture mindset in some ways. everything is becoming more conventional, one-sided, "in the box", "wholesome", domestic, "normal", etc...... or maybe I am deluded?
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: NOTspacecase on February 04, 2013, 06:58 pm
I don't have anything to add here except that I absolutely agree with you.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: MagicMan on February 04, 2013, 06:59 pm
Is it just me, or are young people today very square compared with the last generation? With regard to sex, drugs, musical tastes (e.g. justin bieber), etc.... it's like we are regressing to a pre-counterculture mindset in some ways. everything is becoming more conventional, one-sided, "in the box", "wholesome", domestic, "normal", etc...... or maybe I am deluded?

It's all a function of newer generations being overall less intelligent than previous ones. Intelligence obviously does not equate to how long one spent in school but is instead a combination of "street" and "book" smarts. The newer generations are also bred with a sense of entitlement that the world owes them everything just for existing and (specifically for whites and males and god forbid you're a white male and therefore a cancer on Earth according to the majority of sociologists who spit their pseudo-quasi-scientific bullshit like it's going out of style) the white/male guilt complex.

It is more important to be equal than successful in our currently-being-revised society and that is the first step towards ultimate failure as seen everywhere where communism has been attempted.

I could probably write a book on all this, yet in my field of work it is best to remain as outwardly apolitical as possible.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: DiamondSky on February 04, 2013, 08:13 pm
I think it's just a perspective thing really. The kids today do far more drugs than we ever did but they are all getting them prescribed by their doctors now. In the USA and by extension most Western Countries, we've been going through a bit of a conservative revival post 9/11 which means more folks have been finding god and all that good stuff. If you look at it in the grad scheme of things there is a two to three generation cycle between rebellion and conformity and we are a well over midway through that cycle right now (think Independence War, Temperance Movement, Civil War, Roaring 20's, the 60's as examples).

If I were predict the future, I would say we have another few years of relative calm before the people stand up and demand something change. My guess is that the issue this time around will be the whole "Big Brother" government that we have allowed to be built up around us and an insistence by the younger generation that we cast of the shackles of enslavement by proclaiming ourselves the masters of our government rather than the other way around.

So, as far as my social calendar is concerned we are right on schedule for the cyclical nature of our social boundaries. 
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: Stonedstupor on February 04, 2013, 09:59 pm
I totally agree with OP. Its crazy, you walk into a restaurant and every couple, young and old, more young though, are all glued to their iphones. Not even looking up to talk to each other. I have a little sister and thats all she fuckin does from the time she gets home to the time she goes to sleep is stay on that damned iphone and tweet and post all day. 
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: warmkitty on February 04, 2013, 10:08 pm
Every generation is mainly square - and doing drugs does that make you not square ?
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: Stonedstupor on February 04, 2013, 10:26 pm
just because this topic is on a drug forum doesn't mean everything has to be focused on drugs. this topic has nothing to do with drugs, you should be able to tell that.

but i dont think doing drugs makes you either square or circle or triangle. Think OP means this generation is stuck to technology, making us dumber than previous generations. and not just technology, but the shit on television, radio, pretty much everything mainstream that they're "supposed" to listen to and watch, thus conforming the younger generation how the media see fits.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: The Scientist on February 04, 2013, 10:59 pm
Every generation is mainly square
this is the squarest generation since the 1950s.

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- and doing drugs does that make you not square ?
No, that's just a minor aspect of what I am talking about.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: raynardine on February 04, 2013, 11:10 pm
I have a little sister and thats all she fuckin does from the time she gets home to the time she goes to sleep is stay on that damned iphone and tweet and post all day.

I used to have an android phone before it was stolen.

I would spend every waking hour I wasn't doing anything else on that phone, chatting on Skype and Twitter.

Is that wrong?
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: warmkitty on February 04, 2013, 11:23 pm
No if your using your iphone for subbversion thats great.
The problem is the majority going to work paying taxes to fund the government that oppresses us.
Viva la revolution.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: Isobetadine on February 05, 2013, 01:33 am
I think threads with topics like this are square.
You only see the surface of these"young" kids.

You don't know what they are up to in their personal life.

As for the technology diss..this almosts sounds like the bull conservative people talk about.
Oh things were better before,kids are anti-social.
They just have new means of connecting to the world.
It doesn't make you dumber,it's just a different approach to doing things you were doing 1475.

We are all unique but at the same time VERY similar,no matter where you are from.Therefor we have clichés and mainstream.
Eventually we all conform to something,just not in the same way or tweak it a bit depending on our personalities.

I find society and the mainstream in general,young AND old,to be very infantile whether it comes to demanding things from the goverment/society or rejecting things from the goverment/society,handling the economy or many other things instead of looking at themselves and learn how to put things in prospective.
Change is good,not always easy.
That's why we always have to tweak and work on society that is always moving forward.

Making superficial claims that basicly EVERY generation makes about the other at some point is so repetitive and boring i'm surprised this always comes up.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: raynardine on February 05, 2013, 02:06 am
I find society and the mainstream in general,young AND old,to be very infantile whether it comes to demanding things from the goverment/society or rejecting things from the goverment/society,handling the economy or many other things instead of looking at themselves and learn how to put things in prospective.

This.

Everyone's a fucking child. My mother is a bigger child than some of the 13 year olds I play MW2 with. That's pretty sad.

But I don't think this has changed much in the past 8000 years, it's just something I've been noticing more and more.

People loath taking responsibility over themselves and their actions. It's pathetic. They'll blame their mistakes on ANYTHING else!

They want Big Daddy Government to take care of them, to steal from the Evil Capitalists and give the money to them.

It makes me wonder how the fuck society manages to run at all when everyone is a fucking child, even people older than a century!

Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: DenoyerGeppert on February 11, 2013, 03:49 am
I agree. I am part of this current generation and disagree with a lot of it.

I kinda think that's why I found SR.

Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: blackfedora on February 11, 2013, 06:16 am
Is it just me, or are young people today very square compared with the last generation? With regard to sex, drugs, musical tastes (e.g. justin bieber), etc.... it's like we are regressing to a pre-counterculture mindset in some ways. everything is becoming more conventional, one-sided, "in the box", "wholesome", domestic, "normal", etc...... or maybe I am deluded?

It's all a function of newer generations being overall less intelligent than previous ones. Intelligence obviously does not equate to how long one spent in school but is instead a combination of "street" and "book" smarts. The newer generations are also bred with a sense of entitlement that the world owes them everything just for existing and (specifically for whites and males and god forbid you're a white male and therefore a cancer on Earth according to the majority of sociologists who spit their pseudo-quasi-scientific bullshit like it's going out of style) the white/male guilt complex.

It is more important to be equal than successful in our currently-being-revised society and that is the first step towards ultimate failure as seen everywhere where communism has been attempted.

I could probably write a book on all this, yet in my field of work it is best to remain as outwardly apolitical as possible.
+1 you if i could mate, remind me when i get there ;)
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: Crack Fox on February 11, 2013, 06:29 am
There's only one solution...


STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS

 ;)

Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: hee57 on February 11, 2013, 08:55 am
I don't think the young people today are any dumber than a previous generation. Better technology just let's people see it more. Social media and smartphones leads to the ignorant ones broadcasting their opinions. In reality, every generation had their idiots. No one paid attention to them in the past and now they have a platform.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: Stonedstupor on February 12, 2013, 09:16 pm
I don't think the young people today are any dumber than a previous generation. Better technology just let's people see it more. Social media and smartphones leads to the ignorant ones broadcasting their opinions. In reality, every generation had their idiots. No one paid attention to them in the past and now they have a platform.

+1, couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: Ron Swanson on February 12, 2013, 09:39 pm
kids today are getting rounder and rounder. obesity pandemic.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: TK1991 on February 13, 2013, 12:00 am
The amount of technology also allows kids many, MANY more resources i.e the dumb ones are posting on facebook while the smart ones are silently reading medical journals.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: eworkjr on February 13, 2013, 03:02 am
the young generation definitely is. the highschool kids currently in my area are at least a little promising.. they are either really streetsmart or not at all.
Title: Re: Are young people today square?
Post by: CiscoYankerStuck on February 13, 2013, 03:29 am
With today's generation I've found that the people are split very distinctly, as in each person is either one or the other, between being fairly open-minded vs. being 'square'. (although, you do get the occasional person somewhere in the middle who, say, smokes marijuana everyday but thinks all other drugs are evil). But yes, I'd say a majority of people are 'square'.

In my experience I've found that people with just a HS degree or an associates degree tend to be more open-minded, while those with a bachelors degree or currently attending a 4 year college tend to be more close-minded (especially those in more technical fields of study). I think one attributing factor for this is that those who have pursued a 4+ year degree have gone most of their lives 'just doing what they're supposed to do', have always played by the rules/laws, bought into often conservative propaganda, and never really thought about (or have been too afraid to think about) alternative ways of living/thinking or doing certain 'negative' things that lesser educated people may be associated with.

Certainly this isn't black or white and I'm sure there are plenty of people who are not described by the two categories above, but this is what I have run into.