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Title: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: zer021 on June 07, 2013, 08:13 pm
say one was to get caught with mxe in the usa in a state with no specific laws against it what would happen?  I know that federally at least it is not covered under the analogue act because ketamine is schedule 3.  So would it be some sort of grey area drug law that you would be charged with.  Or would it be some sort of problem with the FDA?
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: SOUTHPAW on June 07, 2013, 11:37 pm
I would venture to say that it would have to do with what you are representing it as, but there is not much precedent in this arena. I have been eyeing MXE for a while now....would love to see what people think.

I thought here in the US it hit some of the States list of banned chemicals putting it as a second degree felony depending on various conditions. Not positive though. 

Doesn't it have amphetamine effects and chemical composition similar too?
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: zer021 on June 08, 2013, 12:12 am
From everything that I have been reading it is my belief that if one was to tell every person that they sold this too that it was not for human use, or maybe even put a label on the bags in which the caps or however it was sold, that technically you would not be breaking any laws.  I'm not entirely sure how well that would hold up in court but in theory it should work in accordance with the laws in place.  I'll just keep researching I guess.  The thing is is that I need some extra income and whatnot but have college grants and loans going on that if I were to be caught with any scheduled drug would go straight to shit and I would need to then pay them all back.  So I'm hoping to exploit this MXE loophole while it's open. 
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: Real_Drugs on June 09, 2013, 05:56 am
I think it would fall under analogue laws.
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: DrChong on June 09, 2013, 11:02 am
I think it would fall under analogue laws.
No it wouldn't. MXE, structurally speaking, is not similar enough to any one illicit dissociative to be considered an analog. In terms of effects, yes, it is supposed to be a ketamine-like substance, but even if it were to be considered a ketamine analog, it does not fall under the Analog Act. Ketamine is a Schedule III drug, and the Analog act only applies to Schedule I and II drugs.

If your package of mxe is intercepted, they'll just think it's illegal, even if it isn't. Tell them to fuck off.
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: SOUTHPAW on June 10, 2013, 01:50 am
I think it would fall under analogue laws.
No it wouldn't. MXE, structurally speaking, is not similar enough to any one illicit dissociative to be considered an analog. In terms of effects, yes, it is supposed to be a ketamine-like substance, but even if it were to be considered a ketamine analog, it does not fall under the Analog Act. Ketamine is a Schedule III drug, and the Analog act only applies to Schedule I and II drugs.

If your package of mxe is intercepted, they'll just think it's illegal, even if it isn't. Tell them to fuck off.

Thanks DOC!  :)
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: GregoryIssacs on June 19, 2013, 02:38 am
MXE is something totally worth stocking or distributing specially now that the window of legality is quasi open. 

Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: DrChong on September 25, 2013, 07:23 am
I think it would fall under analogue laws.
No it wouldn't. MXE, structurally speaking, is not similar enough to any one illicit dissociative to be considered an analog. In terms of effects, yes, it is supposed to be a ketamine-like substance, but even if it were to be considered a ketamine analog, it does not fall under the Analog Act. Ketamine is a Schedule III drug, and the Analog act only applies to Schedule I and II drugs.

If your package of mxe is intercepted, they'll just think it's illegal, even if it isn't. Tell them to fuck off.
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MXE legality is more complex than that. Although ketamine is Schedule 1, MXE also has structural similarities to PCE and PCP, which are both Schedule 1. It's reaching, but MXE could fall under the analog act due to the similarity with PCP.

However, that's for federal law, and the Feds won't care about you regarding a quasi-legal substance. If the state/local police find you with mxe, tell them it's legal and to fuck off. If they want to test it, let them, but they'll end up with it being a legal substance.
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: GregoryIssacs on September 25, 2013, 12:28 pm
You are right about telling them "it's legal and to fuck off". 

My vehicle was searched during a traffic stop, the officer found a bunch of roaches in my ashtray.  It so happens that they were "spice" roaches.  What compound IDK.  But anyways, the officer came out all happy cheering saying "Score, I found some roaches".  I immediately laughed it off explaining to him they were spice incense roaches and they were totally legal.  As if the force was with me, suddenly a commercial for a sale on the stuff at a local famous head-shop nearby was playing in the officers vehicle LOL.  He actually said he was going to field test it, I didn't see it, but I do know that he never said anything else of it afterwards and let me go.  They were so happy and then shot down for their find they failed to notice i was drunk as fuck lol.  I was actually on my way back home from buying some more high gravity beers (211 black). 

That's South Carolina, USA pigs for you, dumb as fuck.

Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: jackofspades on September 29, 2013, 06:47 am
I think it would fall under analogue laws.
No it wouldn't. MXE, structurally speaking, is not similar enough to any one illicit dissociative to be considered an analog. In terms of effects, yes, it is supposed to be a ketamine-like substance, but even if it were to be considered a ketamine analog, it does not fall under the Analog Act. Ketamine is a Schedule III drug, and the Analog act only applies to Schedule I and II drugs.

If your package of mxe is intercepted, they'll just think it's illegal, even if it isn't. Tell them to fuck off.
'
MXE legality is more complex than that. Although ketamine is Schedule 1, MXE also has structural similarities to PCE and PCP, which are both Schedule 1. It's reaching, but MXE could fall under the analog act due to the similarity with PCP.

However, that's for federal law, and the Feds won't care about you regarding a quasi-legal substance. If the state/local police find you with mxe, tell them it's legal and to fuck off. If they want to test it, let them, but they'll end up with it being a legal substance.

Ive heard it can test positive for other illegal drugs, depending on the field test, but then a lab test (which would be required for trial) would proove it legal, well, 'legal' anyway... Maybe if someone on here gets busted with it, a personal amount, we'll find out.

Also, BUMP
MXE
Title: Re: laws regarding MXE in the US
Post by: Opanthalgic on September 30, 2013, 08:49 pm
Having been caught with phenazepam during a blackout, and considering the similarities between phenazepam and MXE legally speaking (schedule 3 VS the analog act), I got charged and then let off after they sent it to the state lab to get tested. I have a feeling the same would probably occur with MXE. It WILL field test for pcp, you will go to jail, it will be a pain in your ass, and you will not be sentenced.

Cops are still cops, and bags of white powder are still bags of white powder.