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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: mrpatron on June 19, 2013, 03:59 am

Title: firearms
Post by: mrpatron on June 19, 2013, 03:59 am
So I know this website used to list guns. I was wondering if anyone In Canada has some for sale. Must ship discreet thanks
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: farmer1 on June 19, 2013, 04:37 am
Check out BMR. They can be bought/sold there.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: putinwork62 on June 19, 2013, 06:04 am
I'm looking for some sites other than bmt also im in the U.S
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: putinwork62 on June 19, 2013, 06:21 am
I'm looking for some sites other than bmt also im in the U.S

Look on clearnet.  It is there.  Any gun you want in the US and without the crazy prices of BMR.  Good luck.

Are you sure about that? where can i find that on the clearnet? All gun sites i know about the sellers have to send the gun to a licensed dealer and plus you have to get background checks...
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: sclerogal on June 19, 2013, 06:33 am
I don't know much about this topic, but if Jack N Hoff says so, it's probably true...
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 19, 2013, 06:35 am
Also, why don't you just have someone who isn't a criminal go buy one at a store or gun show?  It's not hard to get a gun in the US.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: mrpatron on June 19, 2013, 11:56 am
I'm in Canada so things are a bit different here
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: TorXic on June 19, 2013, 12:21 pm
So I know this website used to list guns. I was wondering if anyone In Canada has some for sale. Must ship discreet thanks

you know wrong, no guns here.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: jediflipping on June 19, 2013, 12:54 pm
Random question for someone who knows more than me; How is it that ammo can be shipped so easily? Wouldn't it have to be classified as explosive therefore giving the package a HUGE red flag anyway?
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: southern m1 on June 20, 2013, 06:18 am
ammo seems to be a special case since its sealed however it must be shipped ground and i think is more expensive than just the weight would suggest
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: foxen624 on June 20, 2013, 08:58 am
So I know this website used to list guns. I was wondering if anyone In Canada has some for sale. Must ship discreet thanks

I've not been around here in quite a while, so my info is probably outdated, but I think that the weapons vendors went to a .onion site called The Armory.  But I think from recent readings that the armory may no longer be there....  sorry if not much help...
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: morphjow on June 20, 2013, 09:11 am
guns bad, woman good.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: 0woorrdd on August 16, 2013, 04:34 am
I dont think TOR is the best place to purchase arms. I'd prefer a gun show. Preferably in a southern state because they have less gun control regulations. Anyone know of any ongoing gun shows that are safe to purchase discreetly?
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: Hitch on August 16, 2013, 05:18 am

   There was this hidden service floating around for ages called israservice. They had listings for a ridiculous amount of guns at some pretty bewildering prices that they claimed to be shipping from Israel all around the world. I always figured they were a scam, but I was on their mailing list for ages and they were constantly sending out updated inventories and their .onion site was updated daily and they always responded to messages pretty quickly. If it was a scam it was a good one.

   Ultimately I agree with morphjow, make love, not war fellas.
   
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: Praetorian on August 16, 2013, 05:46 am
I agree with Jack MeHoff, there are plenty of legal ways to get a gun via the clearnet. 

                  For illegal guns, you can find your way into a major US city, find a drug-set block.  You can even ask the locals, tbh, most will actually point you in the right direction as far as where to go.  Then ask the "homies" if they can get you a "throw-away" ... They will know what you mean.

It will definitely work, and may even come with free bullets! (Ooo! Hollow-Points!)

The thing you have to keep in mind though, is that sometimes those cheap back-alley guns ain't exactly clean. As in a ballistics analysis would probably link that gun to SEVERAL robberies, possibly, and quite probably a few homicides as well.

But isn't that what YOU'RE using it for if you're in the United States, trying to get a gun without going about it in a legitimate way anyway?

On a more serious note, I'm excited to see what the future of SR and Personal Defense evolves into. DPR got my balls tingling when he said the "G" word in Forbes.

Title: Re: firearms
Post by: bigbadwolff on August 16, 2013, 08:38 am
very interesting
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: farmer1 on August 16, 2013, 10:37 am
I agree with Jack MeHoff, there are plenty of legal ways to get a gun via the clearnet. 

                  For illegal guns, you can find your way into a major US city, find a drug-set block.  You can even ask the locals, tbh, most will actually point you in the right direction as far as where to go.  Then ask the "homies" if they can get you a "throw-away" ... They will know what you mean.

It will definitely work, and may even come with free bullets! (Ooo! Hollow-Points!)

The thing you have to keep in mind though, is that sometimes those cheap back-alley guns ain't exactly clean. As in a ballistics analysis would probably link that gun to SEVERAL robberies, possibly, and quite probably a few homicides as well.

But isn't that what YOU'RE using it for if you're in the United States, trying to get a gun without going about it in a legitimate way anyway?

On a more serious note, I'm excited to see what the future of SR and Personal Defense evolves into. DPR got my balls tingling when he said the "G" word in Forbes.


Ugh. That sounds like the worst idea.

I can only imagine the unreliable, rusted, murder weapon ol' Gold Teeth is going to get for you (provided he doesn't rob you instead).
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: Praetorian on August 16, 2013, 11:13 am
I agree with Jack MeHoff, there are plenty of legal ways to get a gun via the clearnet. 

                  For illegal guns, you can find your way into a major US city, find a drug-set block.  You can even ask the locals, tbh, most will actually point you in the right direction as far as where to go.  Then ask the "homies" if they can get you a "throw-away" ... They will know what you mean.

It will definitely work, and may even come with free bullets! (Ooo! Hollow-Points!)

The thing you have to keep in mind though, is that sometimes those cheap back-alley guns ain't exactly clean. As in a ballistics analysis would probably link that gun to SEVERAL robberies, possibly, and quite probably a few homicides as well.

But isn't that what YOU'RE using it for if you're in the United States, trying to get a gun without going about it in a legitimate way anyway?

On a more serious note, I'm excited to see what the future of SR and Personal Defense evolves into. DPR got my balls tingling when he said the "G" word in Forbes.


Ugh. That sounds like the worst idea.

I can only imagine the unreliable, rusted, murder weapon ol' Gold Teeth is going to get for you (provided he doesn't rob you instead).

Haha, gold teeth either died out in the early 90's, or is a "grillz" thing that would-be white rappers and assholes do.  Not set-dealers.  But you would be surprised what you can get in the hood, gun-wise.  I've seen brand spankin' new glocks for 250. Never fired, scratched off. etc.  All depends where you go.  No doubt there are probably some really shitty old clunky guns floating about, but there are a LOT of guns, period. More newer than older.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: CMK2914 on August 16, 2013, 04:16 pm
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: farmer1 on August 16, 2013, 06:08 pm
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...

Wanting to remain anonymous when buying something does not mean you are up to no good. 99.99% of guns in the US are not used for any type of crime.

Don't worry about what they want it for. It's none of your business.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: CMK2914 on August 16, 2013, 06:14 pm
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...

Wanting to remain anonymous when buying something does not mean you are up to no good. 99.99% of guns in the US are not used for any type of crime.

Don't worry about what they want it for. It's none of your business.

You can remain pretty anonymous and buy guns without SR, trust me.  And your stat about the % of guns not used in any crime needs a citation.  And I say that as someone who owns multiple firearms.

Any responsible seller would make it their business.  I'd never sell a gun to anyone without being able to feel them out and determine for myself whether I think they're likely to be up to no good.

Buying a gun on the internet seems unnecessarily shady, when a trip to armslist would do just fine.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: safeonion on August 16, 2013, 06:29 pm
try SM
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: farmer1 on August 16, 2013, 07:11 pm
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...

Wanting to remain anonymous when buying something does not mean you are up to no good. 99.99% of guns in the US are not used for any type of crime.

Don't worry about what they want it for. It's none of your business.

You can remain pretty anonymous and buy guns without SR, trust me.  And your stat about the % of guns not used in any crime needs a citation.  And I say that as someone who owns multiple firearms.

Any responsible seller would make it their business.  I'd never sell a gun to anyone without being able to feel them out and determine for myself whether I think they're likely to be up to no good.

Buying a gun on the internet seems unnecessarily shady, when a trip to armslist would do just fine.


I know you can buy guns anonymously in the US FTF, just like you can buy drugs anonymously in the US FTF. I believe that in the future it will be better to use a SR type system to buy them. Is buying drugs on SR more "shady" then buying them in person?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for FTF private sales in the US but that doesn't make buying guns online pointless. If someone is paying the money for the weapon then obviously they believe it is worth it.

Just because someone wants to remain anonymous does not mean they are up to no good. It means they value their privacy. Privacy isn't only for criminals. There is no reason to suspect someone of wanting to hurt someone else just because they want anonymity. If I were selling a gun to someone and they were talking about all the innocent people they were going to murder with it then I wouldn't sell it to them either.

I am not huge on fetching citations but here are some simple numbers I have quickly found.
In 2010 there were 11078 gun homicides in the US.
55544 non-fatal gun injuries in 2011.
138336 gun assaults in 2011.
Total of ~205k.
There are ~270,000,000 privately owned guns in the US.

~0.08% of guns in the US were used in a crime then (rough numbers) assuming the same gun was never used for more then one crime.
I suppose I should have said ~99.9% rather then 99.99% in my original statement, but fairly accurate.


Edit: I don't know if homicides and non-fatal gun injuries are also included in gun assaults. If so, then the percentage of guns used in crimes is even lower. I think the point is clear though: the vast majority of guns in America are silent.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: razael on August 16, 2013, 07:31 pm
guns bad, woman good.

women like men with guns ahah , those primitive bitches like to feel protected.
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: Praetorian on August 16, 2013, 11:09 pm
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...

Wanting to remain anonymous when buying something does not mean you are up to no good. 99.99% of guns in the US are not used for any type of crime.

Don't worry about what they want it for. It's none of your business.

You can remain pretty anonymous and buy guns without SR, trust me.  And your stat about the % of guns not used in any crime needs a citation.  And I say that as someone who owns multiple firearms.

Any responsible seller would make it their business.  I'd never sell a gun to anyone without being able to feel them out and determine for myself whether I think they're likely to be up to no good.

Buying a gun on the internet seems unnecessarily shady, when a trip to armslist would do just fine.


I know you can buy guns anonymously in the US FTF, just like you can buy drugs anonymously in the US FTF. I believe that in the future it will be better to use a SR type system to buy them. Is buying drugs on SR more "shady" then buying them in person?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for FTF private sales in the US but that doesn't make buying guns online pointless. If someone is paying the money for the weapon then obviously they believe it is worth it.

Just because someone wants to remain anonymous does not mean they are up to no good. It means they value their privacy. Privacy isn't only for criminals. There is no reason to suspect someone of wanting to hurt someone else just because they want anonymity. If I were selling a gun to someone and they were talking about all the innocent people they were going to murder with it then I wouldn't sell it to them either.

I am not huge on fetching citations but here are some simple numbers I have quickly found.
In 2010 there were 11078 gun homicides in the US.
55544 non-fatal gun injuries in 2011.
138336 gun assaults in 2011.
Total of ~205k.
There are ~270,000,000 privately owned guns in the US.

~0.08% of guns in the US were used in a crime then (rough numbers) assuming the same gun was never used for more then one crime.
I suppose I should have said ~99.9% rather then 99.99% in my original statement, but fairly accurate.


Edit: I don't know if homicides and non-fatal gun injuries are also included in gun assaults. If so, then the percentage of guns used in crimes is even lower. I think the point is clear though: the vast majority of guns in America are silent.

Cite your sources or my head is going to explode!

Anyway, by the sounds of DPR, I believe only semi-automatic weapons, and personal defense items are going to be available/acceptable on here (if and when) they re-open an "armory" type portion of the site.  One of the very first things I remember seeing for sale on that site /portion of SR, was "rocket propelled grenades" ...

Not sure if that was a legit listing or not, but I'm pretty sure there's no practical 'self-defense' use for rocket-propelled grenades.  rofl
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: farmer1 on August 16, 2013, 11:39 pm
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...

Wanting to remain anonymous when buying something does not mean you are up to no good. 99.99% of guns in the US are not used for any type of crime.

Don't worry about what they want it for. It's none of your business.

You can remain pretty anonymous and buy guns without SR, trust me.  And your stat about the % of guns not used in any crime needs a citation.  And I say that as someone who owns multiple firearms.

Any responsible seller would make it their business.  I'd never sell a gun to anyone without being able to feel them out and determine for myself whether I think they're likely to be up to no good.

Buying a gun on the internet seems unnecessarily shady, when a trip to armslist would do just fine.


I know you can buy guns anonymously in the US FTF, just like you can buy drugs anonymously in the US FTF. I believe that in the future it will be better to use a SR type system to buy them. Is buying drugs on SR more "shady" then buying them in person?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for FTF private sales in the US but that doesn't make buying guns online pointless. If someone is paying the money for the weapon then obviously they believe it is worth it.

Just because someone wants to remain anonymous does not mean they are up to no good. It means they value their privacy. Privacy isn't only for criminals. There is no reason to suspect someone of wanting to hurt someone else just because they want anonymity. If I were selling a gun to someone and they were talking about all the innocent people they were going to murder with it then I wouldn't sell it to them either.

I am not huge on fetching citations but here are some simple numbers I have quickly found.
In 2010 there were 11078 gun homicides in the US.
55544 non-fatal gun injuries in 2011.
138336 gun assaults in 2011.
Total of ~205k.
There are ~270,000,000 privately owned guns in the US.

~0.08% of guns in the US were used in a crime then (rough numbers) assuming the same gun was never used for more then one crime.
I suppose I should have said ~99.9% rather then 99.99% in my original statement, but fairly accurate.


Edit: I don't know if homicides and non-fatal gun injuries are also included in gun assaults. If so, then the percentage of guns used in crimes is even lower. I think the point is clear though: the vast majority of guns in America are silent.

Cite your sources or my head is going to explode!

BOOM!

Sorry.  :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/
http://www.nij.gov/nij/topics/crime/gun-violence/ownership.htm
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: 0woorrdd on August 18, 2013, 02:34 am
If you are in the US and not a scumbag, it is not difficult to get a gun (hell it's not hard even if you are a scumbag).  Wanting to buy one on SR makes me nervous about what you want it for...

Wanting to remain anonymous when buying something does not mean you are up to no good. 99.99% of guns in the US are not used for any type of crime.



       
Don't worry about what they want it for. It's none of your business.

You can remain pretty anonymous and buy guns without SR, trust me.  And your stat about the % of guns not used in any crime needs a citation.  And I say that as someone who owns multiple firearms.

Any responsible seller would make it their business.  I'd never sell a gun to anyone without being able to feel them out and determine for myself whether I think they're likely to be up to no good.

Buying a gun on the internet seems unnecessarily shady, when a trip to armslist would do just fine.


I know you can buy guns anonymously in the US FTF, just like you can buy drugs anonymously in the US FTF. I believe that in the future it will be better to use a SR type system to buy them. Is buying drugs on SR more "shady" then buying them in person?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for FTF private sales in the US but that doesn't make buying guns online pointless. If someone is paying the money for the weapon then obviously they believe it is worth it.

Just because someone wants to remain anonymous does not mean they are up to no good. It means they value their privacy. Privacy isn't only for criminals. There is no reason to suspect someone of wanting to hurt someone else just because they want anonymity. If I were selling a gun to someone and they were talking about all the innocent people they were going to murder with it then I wouldn't sell it to them either.

I am not huge on fetching citations but here are some simple numbers I have quickly found.
In 2010 there were 11078 gun homicides in the US.
55544 non-fatal gun injuries in 2011.
138336 gun assaults in 2011.
Total of ~205k.
There are ~270,000,000 privately owned guns in the US.

~0.08% of guns in the US were used in a crime then (rough numbers) assuming the same gun was never used for more then one crime.
I suppose I should have said ~99.9% rather then 99.99% in my original statement, but fairly accurate.


Edit: I don't know if homicides and non-fatal gun injuries are also included in gun assaults. If so, then the percentage of guns used in crimes is even lower. I think the point is clear though: the vast majority of guns in America are silent.


Brilliant
Title: Re: firearms
Post by: 0woorrdd on August 18, 2013, 02:40 am
Where I live, its close to impossible to get a handgun legally, yet the news talks about shootings and robberies on a daily basis. I think guns in too few hands is a much more dangerous situation.