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Title: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: gliese581g on March 02, 2012, 06:44 pm
Hi everyone,

I recently registered as a seller. I intend on selling the surplus cannabis I grow for myself and friends.  I've spent a lot of time researching this issue and will be offering highly competitive prices, probably the best on SR in fact (60 USD per quarter, and this will be premium marijuana...I don't compromise on quality). I appreciate the spiritual and medicinal value of marijuana and I want it to be affordable. This isn't just about making money for me, although that's obviously part of the equation.

Now, I will be double or triple vacuum sealing and washing the exterior (all while using gloves and keeping care not to transfer the scent to the exterior). I've gotten a few ideas on shipping from the products I have ordered myself on SR (professional labeling, a letter/card/invoice accompanying the package, etc).

How should I pack the marijuana though? After scouring the Internet I've come across a few ideas.

1. Packing the double vacuum sealed marijuana inside a VHS tape with a letter saying something to the effect of "thank you for helping me get this transferred to a DVD, Karen..." The idea is to make it look like this is a relative sending an old VHS to be converted to digital. Maybe a wedding tape or something like that. I've read that if the package indicates it is a VHS, security is less prone to subjecting it to high powered x-rays as this can damage the film (not sure if this is true).

2. Packing the double vacuum sealed marijuana inside a shampoo bottle (should be fine with the liquid around it if it's double/triple vacuum sealed) with a professional invoice/branding that makes it look as though this a premium/specialty shampoo.

3. Hollowing out a candle, putting in the vacuum sealed marijuana and melting the wax over top. I would again use professional branding and include an invoice to make it look as though this were a premium product with special properties.

What do you think about these ideas? Which one works best, if any? Do you have better ideas in mind.

The sooner I sort this out the sooner I can start selling affordably priced cannabis.

Thanks a bunch!



Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: HappySmoke420 on March 02, 2012, 08:03 pm
Do VHS players still exist? ???
BTW, i will pay double if you promise to send it to me in a shampoo bottle! ;D
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: Reseller on March 02, 2012, 08:07 pm
According to some, attempting to actually disguise your product within another product can be more conspicuous than just sending your product in an envelope.

The VHS idea sounds pretty great though. I imagine you could fit an oz in in the tape box if you really flattened the vacuumed bud.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: cdaley on March 02, 2012, 09:38 pm
Check how much your normal VHS cassette would weigh. If what you're filling it with is way more or less weight than would be expected that's a fairly obvious flag....
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: microRNA on March 03, 2012, 03:50 pm
Did you even read the radiography thread? All of those are very bad ideas if your package gets x rayed. Especially the shampoo thats the worst thing you could do. You should literally just vacuum seal the buds and wrap it in a layer of paper before you do that!

buds are irregularly shaped. so you need to conceal them with something irregularly shaped. Like in a box of treats with candy, popcorn, or other goodies that also do not have distinct form.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: inscape on March 03, 2012, 05:21 pm
the dollar tree or similar store's are great places to get cheap boxed games, puzzles, ect to that slip perfectly inside a small priority box. laminating the box of the toy/game (on top of vacuum sealing the product of course) adds a further sense of realism if the package were to ever accidently bust open for any reason.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: twon on March 03, 2012, 06:25 pm
unless you are shipping qp's and above simply triple vacuum sealing and using something to obscure view such as a plastic grocery bag will be enough.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: oxyhoot on March 03, 2012, 06:51 pm
1st layer: standard ziplock
2nd layer: vacuum seals (2x or 3x)
3rd layer: standard bubble mailer, paper or poly, sealed up nice and tight
4th layer: box of some kind (add filler if the bubble mailer rattles around inside the box)

All of those other methods sound like way too much work and also I agree with Reseller; decoy items actually decrease the security in some cases.

oxyhoot
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: rocketdog on March 03, 2012, 08:59 pm
laminating the box of the toy/game (on top of vacuum sealing the product of course) adds a further sense of realism if the package were to ever accidently bust open for any reason.

I got a greeting card that said "Love, Karen". I knew there was supposed to be more so I squeezed every square inch of the card. One part was thicker than the others. It was difficult, but when I peeled the layers of cardboard apart, there inside was a very flat 1g of cocaine. If the paper envelope had been torn, nothing illegal would have been exposed.

Another shipment was vacuum sealed inside metalized Mylar, like an ESD-safe bag that computer parts are shipped in. I don't know how this looks under x-ray. It was inside a sturdy bubble wrap envelope and again, had the envelope torn (unlikely in this case) nothing illegal would have been exposed.

Another bubble wrap envelope contained a business-y looking document and a hole had been punched clean through both side. If customs had inserted an endoscopic camera (I'm speculating. I don't actually know if they do this.) the product would not have been visible because it was not in between the layers of bubble wrap. It was between one layer of bubble wrap and the tough (Tyvek type stuff) outer layer of the envelope.

I'll edit this post if anyone has security concerns but I don't think I'm being specific enough to cause any harm.

Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: gliese581g on March 04, 2012, 01:25 am
Did you even read the radiography thread? All of those are very bad ideas if your package gets x rayed. Especially the shampoo thats the worst thing you could do. You should literally just vacuum seal the buds and wrap it in a layer of paper before you do that!

buds are irregularly shaped. so you need to conceal them with something irregularly shaped. Like in a box of treats with candy, popcorn, or other goodies that also do not have distinct form.

I will check the radiography thread out. Thanks to the above poster and thanks to everyone else for their input so far. This has been helpful.

So what does everyone think about packing the vacuum sealed weed inside a candy jar inside a box with additional filler? Any other ideas.

All your input is appreciated :)
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: microRNA on March 04, 2012, 04:26 am
Are you shipping domestically? If so, many sellers hardly put any effort into disguising the goods. I know of EXPRESS orders from canada arrived disguised with nothing more than paper and declared as documents, and they get way more attention than regular customs which gets more than domestic. As others have said in many cases the more you to try and hide it, the worse.

I certainly believe the smaller the package the better. Oxyhoot had pretty good advice, I just think it should stop at the smaller bubble mailer if you can get it to fit, or the small priority box that fits in a mailbox.

1) ziplock with a bit of air left to prevent crushing buds
2) vacuum sealing 2 or 3 times, 2 generally sufficient
3) visibility barrier, extremely important, incase the package is ripped open.
     - I would recommend a sealed standard letter envelope if it will fit, addressed to the buyer as well
4) 8 X 6 in padded bubble mailer or priority box

If the outer package is damaged and address unreadable, the inner envelope can still be delivered with postage due, and the goods are still not visible

A good return address is very important, like if there is a snack and nut company or something appropriate in the zip you are dropping the package

There are package profiling threads that you should DEFINITELY read if you havent.

I would also suggest buying a few orders (from a different acct) to receive the packages and see how some of the other already established vendors are doing things.  Good luck
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: gliese581g on March 04, 2012, 04:33 am
I will definitely take up your advice on buying from a few sellers.

I would like to ship domestically (Canada) and internationally, ideally.

Using the search bar hasn't really been helpful so I guess I will just go page by page to find additional tid bits.

I've seen people on SR hide stuff inside the bubble wrap and I thought that was extremely effective. It's just harder for me to imagine doing it with weed, but I will see if I can try and make something like that work.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: CrunchyFrog on March 04, 2012, 05:23 am
Quote from: gliese581g
I've seen people on SR hide stuff inside the bubble wrap...
Please don't discuss specific shipping methods in a public forum.  "Interested third parties" may find this information to be of use.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: microRNA on March 04, 2012, 08:52 am
I dont think anyone is being too terribly specific, maybe rocketdog but he said he would change it (maybe you should about the cardboard?). Still not associated with anyone or package in particular just some clear ideas of effective methods so hard to draw the line of what is too much information

Make sure you are on the main page or the main category page cause the search function will only search where you tell it to by where you have navigated.

Shipping to Can and US is one thing, across the pond is a completely different story I really have no experience with unfortunately


For package profiling:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4196.msg34992#msg34992

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4028.msg33809#msg33809
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: adam420 on March 04, 2012, 06:40 pm
i would say. use your imagination and dont use heavy items or big items to ship it.

best use carbon envelopes. and if possible flatten the weed. 
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: microRNA on March 05, 2012, 03:16 am
Im pretty sure adam knows what he is talking about

why carbon though does it provide an additional security other than not being visible through?

and as much as it pains me, I think for international the buds are going to have to be flattened a bit especially for larger orders
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: Gary Oak on March 05, 2012, 04:36 am
Ahahaha, people's creativity on here is so marvelously amusing!  ;D
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: adam420 on March 05, 2012, 05:31 pm
Im pretty sure adam knows what he is talking about

why carbon though does it provide an additional security other than not being visible through?

and as much as it pains me, I think for international the buds are going to have to be flattened a bit especially for larger orders


carbon because then its harder to feel whats inside. and its stronger material better then bubble envelopes or paper

Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: redwolf69 on March 09, 2012, 06:18 am
1.Double vacuum pack the buds. make sure its flattened.
2.Move to another room wash/submerge the bag in alcohol solution to get the scent parts that are still remaining out.
3.Vacuum seal one more time. I think you will be fine now.
4.Put in jiffy or w.e and send wherever you like.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: microRNA on March 09, 2012, 06:21 am
there was just a thread about someone being busted sending cocaine in peanut butter jars...

wtf why does everyone always try to suggest something like that... did you even read the rest the of the thread??

i would not recommend doing that imo
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: thedoctorisin on March 16, 2012, 04:14 am
1.Double vacuum pack the buds. make sure its flattened.
2.Move to another room wash/submerge the bag in alcohol solution to get the scent parts that are still remaining out.
3.Vacuum seal one more time. I think you will be fine now.
4.Put in jiffy or w.e and send wherever you like.

You were great up until #4.  That seems to be an old wives' tale that started from a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy who's father sent him weed while he was in AZ in college.  Great way to draw attention to yourself with that one.
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: xl4 on March 16, 2012, 04:40 am
while i've never shipped for anyone here i've done my fair share of shipping.

as suggested by some members... vacuum seal to the point of flattening. this may not be appealing when arrived but will not effect the end result ;). remember that the first bag you place it in should have a hole or slit cut into it to allow the air to escape and the herb to be completely sealed in vacuum. for extra measure you can use gloves as well as wipe each seal with nail polish remover or ipa lightly and then let dry.

do this two or three times to your liking (although do not cut the vacuumed bags obviously). wrap in a paper bag, carbon paper, or antistatic bag.

now here is where my opinion differs. for domestic shipments (us state to us state)... less is more :) don't over think it. using candles, and peanut butter, or shampoo etc is just overkill. you can throw in a magazine or dvd case or something for good measure but in all honesty it's not needed. simply tossing your shit into a free usps box will do just fine. adding in some crumpled news paper or magazine sheets to stop any shifting is helpful as well. this has worked for 2+ pounds for me on numerous occasions from west to east coast and back.

a lot of people will also say to make it look official by printing off labels and all that jazz. we've all read the articles about what they look for in drug shipments but in all honesty i've "handwritten" each package and never had a problem.

now the best part is just looking NOT THE PART. when you take the box in (unless you have a lovely drop off location where you simply swipe pay and go) try and look somewhat decent. take a shower that day and comb your hair. wear clean clothes and speak proper to the employee behind the desk. try to look for small local post offices and not major ones. in this case... the less traffic is the better (in my opinion). ship your good the way you planned. i typically use delivery confirmation without signature. and i specify that on the form as well as instructing the postal worker. i usually add in a story about how my brother/friend/sister is never around when the mail arrives. they of course will ask you the typical questions on if there is anything flamable, illegal, etc in the package. wait until they are done talking and say nope. if they ask if you want insurance on the package you can simply say no thank you.

now, for the receiver. a lot of folks say to use a name close to your own or your actual name. i've always used an alias. they will always deliver mail, but it may cause them to raise an eyebrow. however... how do they know you don't have a relative or friend visiting that is expecting a package. or how do they know you aren't having a package sent to you for a friend. either way the biggest thing to kill the anxiety once it arrives is to no answer the door when the package arrives (if you're home). wait for the mailperson to get out of site then grab the package and bring it inside. now... if your heart is still beating out of your chest grab your marker or a pen and write in big letter across the top "RETURN TO SENDER". and then just leave it sitting on a counter in your house. wait a few hours until your nerves settle and then when you feel right about it... open it :)

as far as what to do with the material i've always just thrown it away somewhere away from my location after removing the delivery info. some folks burn it... whatever.

hope this was somewhat helpful ;) just my way of doing things that has worked flawlessly for several years :)


protip edit: also, if you really would not like to flatten the buds, simply do a quick "seal" instead of a vacuum pull with your sealer. try and get out as much air as you can from the bag first to minimize the bulkiness. then vacuum seal a few more times for good measure (at least once more).
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: b33m01 on March 20, 2012, 04:27 am
Posting this kind of stuff on here doesn't seem like a good idea...
Title: Re: How to Ship Marijuana by Stealth (new seller)?
Post by: Oldtoker on March 20, 2012, 08:01 am
Posting this kind of stuff on here doesn't seem like a good idea...

I couldn't agree more.  I think this thread should be deleted.  Isn't this in violation of the forum rules.