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Title: Liquid DMT
Post by: HighAllDay96 on December 08, 2012, 07:28 pm
Is it possible anyone could break down DMT and sell it as a liquid?

HighAllDay96

Luke
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: Edawg420 on December 08, 2012, 07:49 pm
???? do you mean Ayahuasca ?   or like a HCL injection?  Ayahuasca comes naturally in a liquid form, but you better have like 8-10 hours to trip fucking divine balls!
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: HighAllDay96 on December 08, 2012, 08:00 pm
Lol that's the thing, I have no idea what I mean. I just didn't know if was possible I guess? I juts thought you could possibly turn it in to liquid form to vaporize or something along those lines. I also don't think I have a clue about what I'm talking about. :P

HighAllDay96

Luke
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: Edawg420 on December 08, 2012, 08:18 pm
ahhhh young grasshopper, well DMT is sorta my specialty.  For a beginner like you, you might wanna try n find some changa, you would smoke it through a dry bong.  If you think you have some skill or a GVG, you can try vaporizing it youself.  But if you have a friend that has a volcano, well good sir you are in for a treat.  Crank the volcano to 9 and put in .05 of some good ass DMT freebase.  The volcano will turn it into a perfect vapory cloud.  Now your goal will be to finish the bag... but its ok if you dont... i have only seen some people finish the bag, and they are TRUE psychonauts...

feel free to ask any questions... i love to help with DMT as it is one of the most beautiful experiences you can have.
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: fleetingglimpse on December 08, 2012, 08:46 pm
I AM NOT A CHEMIST, PLEASE BEAR THIS IN MIND!!!!

I have made DMT  many times. Some mostly successful some not. ??? :'(

Sometimes i have ended up with liquid that will not evaporate or evaporate EXTREMELY SLOWLY, like months if at all. But i don't bother waiting that long. Could be something to do with the solvent used or the drying method. The end product has no solvent smell and tastes like DMT, so could be the oxide. This supposedly can be vaporized, or converted back, but i don't usually bother, or recommend without proper research or knowledge!!! Some times it will crystallize if enough time is given. Im talking about DMT freebase here, BTW.

Ayahuasca different all together, which would be a liquid.

Actually, any advice on my liquid shit from proper specialists?

Cheers

fg
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: HighAllDay96 on December 08, 2012, 09:05 pm
Edawg420: I appreciate all the advice and I will hold you to that if I have any questions. My friend does happen to own a volcano so maybe we'll have look in to that (;

fleetingglimpse: Thanks as well as you have a brought up a good question. We'll wait and see if it's answered.

Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: acider on December 08, 2012, 10:13 pm
Edawg420 since you were asking for it  :P  I got a bit of Walter's DMT, which way should I vape it, that doesn't include 50$+ equipment? I ve googled and found some hand made "DMT machines" etc, have you tried anything like that? I m even thinking about dropping some in my e-cig but I don't have enough DMT to lose on experiments.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: fleetingglimpse on December 08, 2012, 10:22 pm
As a side, a volcano is the daddy for DMT IMHO. 8)

A layer of spent herb and a sprinkling of the base = hyperspace :-*

I always try to keep my bag small enough so i can try to get in 3  5-10 second hits. TRY, lol

Slightly off topic, but what do people think of using fresh weed with their DMT? Iv done it, but you know its hard to tell much after 2 sucks ;)

Enhance, detract, neither or waste?

Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: fleetingglimpse on December 08, 2012, 10:33 pm
Edawg420 since you were asking for it  :P  I got a bit of Walter's DMT, which way should I vape it, that doesn't include 50$+ equipment? I ve googled and found some hand made "DMT machines" etc, have you tried anything like that? I m even thinking about dropping some in my e-cig but I don't have enough DMT to lose on experiments.
Thanks!

Dude, if you can get a volcano for about 50bucks..... GET ONE!!!!

I thought about an e-cig, but i wouldn't be convinced.

Crack or meth pipes supposedly work well (or ghetto style), but there are plenty of cheap hand held vapes out there that i hear do great jobs.

Have a look, if your stuck i'll have a look. Might even be something on here :)
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: Edawg420 on December 08, 2012, 11:10 pm
If you wanna spend less then 50$ you are gonna need to try the sandwich method.

This is actually how i first blasted off so i know it works but you have to do it carefully.

First, pack a bowl half way up, preferably the best breathing bowl you have.

next weigh out .05 of DMT and sprinkle it in the middle of the bowl, trying to not get much along the edges, as this will melt and stick to the sides.

after that put a good amount of cannabis on top of the DMT, trying to keep all the DMT in the center... You need a GOOD amount.... I'm not talking sprinkle a little weed, i mean pack another layer entirely over it.


this begins the tricky part.  What your gonna try and do is quickly and as light the entire top of the green.  Only burning the weed.  Once it starts roasting you have to keep it rolling.

as you smoke it keep in mind that DMT gets ruined at high temperatures, so try and slow burn it nice and steady.

once you taste the DMT...and trust me you'll taste it, shoot for 3-4 deep, Long held tokes.  Try and hold it in but if you have smokers lungs you might be fucked.

If you can keep the dmt smoke in you and take about 3-4 good rips you'll have probably a 2platueah experiences.  I have only broke through once, and that was enough for me hahaha.  You really have to be at peace with yourself, the dmt, universe and everything.  you'll understand when you get back !

Lemme know how it goes

peace and love brotha
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: mwarf on December 08, 2012, 11:38 pm
Good info in this thread. Im curious about vaporizing through a volcano. I have a digital version, but never really had success with it. Any suggestion on where should I set the temperature for optimal vaporization?
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: acider on December 08, 2012, 11:53 pm
Thanks for your answers guys :)
I m sorry, I should have mentioned that I don't live in US but in EU(south). This means bowl/pipe is an unknown term here, and we smoke weed with what you call joints/spliffs. Even a bowl probably has to be international order and that's why I was looking for a hand-made DMT machine or something like that. I ll check if I can get a bowl domestic though I always wanted to try one.
Peace and love
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: Edawg420 on December 09, 2012, 02:27 am
@ mwarf, i rock my old school volcano at 9 so i would say as hot as possible, as long as you don't touch fire to it, it should be a ok!

@ acider, well friend there is another method i have done for a friend of mine.


So take a joint, fill it with what you would, it has to be about the size of a cigarette.  Once you have it formed, push your figure in the middle of the rolled weed and make a space.  Next pour .05 of DMTor more if you want, in the center of that hole.  Carefully push the weed pieces together and finish rolling the joint.  try and pack it down with one side, that's why i always roll a spliff so i can pack it after i roll it. 

Same as the sandwich method, just SLOW smoke the joint and when you start to taste the DMT start ripping it slow and deep and hold that goodness in.  You are literally going to travel outta this world so be sitting, and have someone take the joint from you, or do your best to set it down.

anyways that's my experience with joints, they seem to work pretty fucking awesome was what my buddy told me so GL brotha!

peace and love
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: deemtea on December 09, 2012, 04:31 am
I AM NOT A CHEMIST, PLEASE BEAR THIS IN MIND!!!!

I have made DMT  many times. Some mostly successful some not. ??? :'(

Sometimes i have ended up with liquid that will not evaporate or evaporate EXTREMELY SLOWLY, like months if at all. But i don't bother waiting that long. Could be something to do with the solvent used or the drying method. The end product has no solvent smell and tastes like DMT, so could be the oxide. This supposedly can be vaporized, or converted back, but i don't usually bother, or recommend without proper research or knowledge!!! Some times it will crystallize if enough time is given. Im talking about DMT freebase here, BTW.

Ayahuasca different all together, which would be a liquid.

Actually, any advice on my liquid shit from proper specialists?

Cheers

fg

The reason why it isn't crystallizing very well is because it isn't pure enough.  You have a few options here:

1.  Re-dissolve in organic solvent and wash with base (K2CO3 or NaOH), water, brine, dry organic layer (drying agent), evaporate organic layer and let sit to crystallize. 

2.  Follow above method but first do an acid/base extraction.  Read about it on the web I don't really want to explain it right now.

3.  Buy equipment to do column chromatography (not really worth it for at home small scale extractions), but you'd probably want to get to the bottom of the issue at hand and not keep making impure material which has to be purified each time...

4.  Try a different source for the material you are making the deemsters from.

5.  Heat it up in a small container so it is fully homogenized, then bring it off heat.  As it cools, sprinkle some DMT you purchase from me :) on top and it will act as a crystal catalyst and start a chain reaction of crystallization in your dmt liquid.

There's probably a few other ways to clean it up I missed, but that's what I got for now.  Hope that helps.

--Dee--
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: jhancock1984 on December 09, 2012, 05:20 am
Since someone mentioned the crack pipe method I'll chime in with mine  ;D

I vaporize my DMT out of a tire gauge crack pipe.  To make this I pulled all the bits out, keeping just the metal stem.  I soaked it and two copper chore boy screens in IPA to remove any machine residue.  Once its dry shove one of the screens in the fatter end of the metal stem and push it down about half an inch.  Load your DMT, apply flame to the outside of the stem until the DMT melts into the screen, and then push the second screen into the pipe to act as a heat sink.

When smoking, hold the pipe nearly vertical so the spice runs down towards the flame rather than away.  Do not apply direct heat to the screen but rather use your breath to pull the heat into the pipe.  Adjust your breath based on how much heat you want (suck harder to draw in more heat).  Remove from flame a few seconds before your done hitting it as it takes a second or two to cool down.

If your comfortable or have a sitter around, a candle works better then a bic since it's less shit to fuck with.  That said, don't use a scented candle.  Trying to blast off with scented candle crap in the back of your throat is no fun.
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: acider on December 09, 2012, 11:35 am

@ acider, well friend there is another method i have done for a friend of mine.

That sounds very simple and promising, I ll try it!
thanks !
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: fleetingglimpse on December 09, 2012, 01:04 pm
The reason why it isn't crystallizing very well is because it isn't pure enough.  You have a few options here:

1.  Re-dissolve in organic solvent and wash with base (K2CO3 or NaOH), water, brine, dry organic layer (drying agent), evaporate organic layer and let sit to crystallize. 

2.  Follow above method but first do an acid/base extraction.  Read about it on the web I don't really want to explain it right now.

3.  Buy equipment to do column chromatography (not really worth it for at home small scale extractions), but you'd probably want to get to the bottom of the issue at hand and not keep making impure material which has to be purified each time...

4.  Try a different source for the material you are making the deemsters from.

5.  Heat it up in a small container so it is fully homogenized, then bring it off heat.  As it cools, sprinkle some DMT you purchase from me :) on top and it will act as a crystal catalyst and start a chain reaction of crystallization in your dmt liquid.

There's probably a few other ways to clean it up I missed, but that's what I got for now.  Hope that helps.

--Dee--

Cheers mate :)

Often though about an A/B on the stuff. What I'm left with will not dissolve in NP solvents.

I always go STB then freeze precip. I always get the crystals falling out. Just sometimes after filtering they immediately melt when they start to heat up, soooo annoying watching it happen. Might try an  A/B from scratch next time. Despite the extra work.

One more question. Is the liquid the N-oxide? And can it be vaped?

fg
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: fleetingglimpse on December 09, 2012, 01:39 pm
Thanks for your answers guys :)
I m sorry, I should have mentioned that I don't live in US but in EU(south). This means bowl/pipe is an unknown term here, and we smoke weed with what you call joints/spliffs. Even a bowl probably has to be international order and that's why I was looking for a hand-made DMT machine or something like that. I ll check if I can get a bowl domestic though I always wanted to try one.
Peace and love

A bong man, but no water!! Surely you can get something where you are from. Southern Europe do you mean?

Dude honestly there are plenty of online retailers that can fulfill your needs, quite legally.

Have a search for 'VaporGenie' for starts, not to expensive but plenty cheaper. Or if you still want to go DIY Google 'dmt machine'

fg
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: acider on December 09, 2012, 02:48 pm
Yes southern Europe.
No one's using or selling bowl/bong believe it or not. At least in my country. First option is the joint sandwich then a dmt machine. If nothing works, I ll order a bowl or VG.
Now that I m thinking the classic smoking pipe used for tobacco might do the job and they re common here.
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: Edawg420 on December 09, 2012, 07:07 pm
Man that's some bogus shit!  Straight up don't sell glass where u live? that's weird?  no head shops?  Well anyways, yeah try the joint method, otherwise a normal tobacco pipe should work also.
Title: Re: Liquid DMT
Post by: Lucius Luv on December 11, 2012, 05:54 pm
use the pipes with the bubble for smoking dmt, v shaped are best. at most 10 bucks at just about any head shop... sandwich method work good, but waste dmt, don't taste as good.  imo dmt is best in form of pharmauasca. maoi extract and then the dmt.  in all honesty, oral ingestion imo is a must for anyone who wants to get familiar with dmt.  smoking it becomes more meaningful after a oral experience.

i suppose liquid dmt is possible, but it's not practical.    i' got some experience extracting with non mhrb.. which i think is better than mhrb but yield a good amount less.  besides, finding mhrb is still fairly easy.