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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: drugfather on December 05, 2011, 06:05 pm
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Has anyone heard from him?
His offers look really really tasty... but I'm not sure if it's legit.
Here's his SR profile: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/102326
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I have also been monitoring this particular seller. At this point in time I think its 2 risky for you 2 attempt a purchase from him.
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I have also been monitoring this particular seller. At this point in time I think its 2 risky for you 2 attempt a purchase from him.
thanks for the feedback!
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I've chatted with Ender and he seems like a nice guy that I hope will be a reputable vendor. I went ahead and placed an order with him over this past weekend and should have the product in the next couple of days. I'll update this message with any news -- good or bad.
He did initially suggest that I pay upfront, which sounds worrisome, but when I insisted on doing the deal within SR escrow, he agreed right away. That's usually a sign of someone on the up and up.
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A common tendency among sellers is 2 offer quick response times and an overly amount of customer service. This is all so that you think they are a good person. Not every1 whos nice is a scammer but when you just got here and have amazing hook ups and some very desired drug and large amounts at that.................there is something different about him
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A common tendency among sellers is 2 offer quick response times and an overly amount of customer service. This is all so that you think they are a good person. Not every1 whos nice is a scammer but when you just got here and have amazing hook ups and some very desired drug and large amounts at that.................there is something different about him
You might be right; he could be scamming. But given that he's selling within SR escrow -- I know he is with me anyway -- it's hard to see how he's going to reap any gain off of the scam, no? Maybe I'm missing something or the escrow arrangement is less helpful to buyers than I assume.
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A common tendency among sellers is 2 offer quick response times and an overly amount of customer service. This is all so that you think they are a good person. Not every1 whos nice is a scammer but when you just got here and have amazing hook ups and some very desired drug and large amounts at that.................there is something different about him
Yeah this is how I got scammed the first time on SR... reviews seemed legit... vendor was quick to reply, friendly etc..
scamming piece of shit
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Yeah this is how I got scammed the first time on SR... reviews seemed legit... vendor was quick to reply, friendly etc..
scamming piece of shit
I'm not trying to be a jackass or blame the victim here, but I'd bet you didn't really get scammed just because the guy seemed friendly or the reviews seemed legit. You got scammed because you WENT OUT OF ESCROW and didn't take advantage of the system SR has put in place.
I think Ender seems OK and he's got some favorable reviews. But the reason he's not going to be able to scam me (if I've misjudged everything) is that I haven't finalized early or sent anybody bitoins outside of the escrow process. If all of us buyers follow that one simple ironclad rule, scammers cannot thrive.
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i have an out-of-escrow order with him right now...
he has good reviews and i saw a few posts of his on the forum which led me to believe he was legit. i am a new buyer so almost everyone asks me to finalize early..
order should have been shipped today and i sent him a PM this morning which he read but did not respond to. starting to worry :/
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i have an out-of-escrow order with him right now...
he has good reviews and i saw a few posts of his on the forum which led me to believe he was legit. i am a new buyer so almost everyone asks me to finalize early..
It doesn't matter if sellers "ask you to finalize early" -- just say "no." Don't do it! Do you think the seller would just mail you the drugs upfront and hope against hope for payment if the situation was reversed? Of course not.
The escrow system favors neither buyer nor seller -- it is the kind of reciprocally fair mechanism that makes this place work, If some seller is unwilling to work within the rules SR has laid down, then tell him to pound sand and buy from someone else. There are plenty of sellers here on SR who will sell even to new buyers within the escrow system. If you need the name of one, PM me and I'll provide a couple of legit opiate vendors who operate within the system at all times.
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i have an out-of-escrow order with him right now...
he has good reviews and i saw a few posts of his on the forum which led me to believe he was legit. i am a new buyer so almost everyone asks me to finalize early..
It doesn't matter if sellers "ask you to finalize early" -- just say "no." Don't do it! Do you think the seller would just mail you the drugs upfront and hope against hope for payment if the situation was reversed? Of course not.
The escrow system favors neither buyer nor seller -- it is the kind of reciprocally fair mechanism that makes this place work, If some seller is unwilling to work within the rules SR has laid down, then tell him to pound sand and buy from someone else. There are plenty of sellers here on SR who will sell even to new buyers within the escrow system. If you need the name of one, PM me and I'll provide a couple of legit opiate vendors who operate within the system at all times.
i know there are some who exist, but the one i normally go through didn't happen to be selling at the time that i ordered. i guess if this is a mistake i made, i can't change it and i'll just have to learn from it
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I have a test order in with him. He notified me on Friday that he missed the shipping deadline so he'd send it out today. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. I followed up, and we'll see what happens. It was in escrow, so I'm not too concerned, but I'm a touch disappointed that it didn't ship like he committed to.
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casualXTC, that's EXACTLY what he told me on friday.
something fishy goin on here :/
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I was due to receive something today and the time by which it should have arrived has come and gone.
If you have been following the forum posts by Ender, I was one whose order was "delayed," was getting "extra goodies," to make up for it, and one of the two who he thanked for being so understanding.
Anyway, I fully realize that I am being a noob by raising the alarm only 30 minutes after an expected delivery didn't happen, but that, combined with the fact that he has been MIA for a while now, is strange.
For what it's worth to you, I did successfully complete an order with Ender last week, and when the crazy stuff supposedly happened to him late last week, and my current order was delayed, he refunded me $50 for my trouble. I did receive that money so to me, giving any kind of refund seems like strange behavior for somebody trying to make a quick buck through a short term scam.
Hopefully hear form him soon but until then...shit sucks.
FYI; Though is my first forum post, I have already dealt with several vendors other than Ender successfully.
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Get over 250 transactions under your belt before ANYONE starts talking or considering "trust." Even then ooe should be kept minimal. Transactions and amounts. It is just NOT a good idea. Your favorite vendor could get bonked on the head later today and start misbehaving. Keep that in mind. Silly buyers, ooe tricks are for kids. Stay within escrow. DO NOT finalize early!! BUT DO FINALIZE QUICKLY UPON DELIVERY. Everything should run as smooth as it can.
*I have not had any personal dealings w/ EnderTheHegemon personally. I am not 100% sure on what to make of his whole ooe stuff. I hope he comes through. I personally do not like a new vendor asking for a ooe deal.
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If I said it twice, I'll say it again. Be it an OnLine Pharmacy or Opiate Vendoe here on SR. Dont want to generalize, but seems greatest Capacity for getting Scammed is by Opiate Sellers. Most here have proven themselves. I am rooting for Ender cause of great goodies he has to offer. I just hope he comes through for all you Cool Opiate Eaters.
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last online: today
still has not checked his messages.
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sigh.. i would really like to hear from the other 5 people who finalized early after i did, i wonder if maybe one of them has heard from him/gotten their product. :/
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Package did not arrive today like he insisted.
I placed order on WED, same story other received of "missing the cut off"
Then all his problems start, he tells me overnight delivery, extras and partial refund.
No refund received, no overnight delivery. Tomorrow it will have been a week since I placed the order.
thank god I have not finalized early, that means I'll get by bitcoins back right???
MrdDRo was always too good to me but he no longer has ROXIs or I wouldn't have ordered with this shmuck
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Package did not arrive today like he insisted.
I placed order on WED, same story other received of "missing the cut off"
Then all his problems start, he tells me overnight delivery, extras and partial refund.
No refund received, no overnight delivery. Tomorrow it will have been a week since I placed the order.
thank god I have not finalized early, that means I'll get by bitcoins back right???
MrdDRo was always too good to me but he no longer has ROXIs or I wouldn't have ordered with this shmuck
ya man, he's definitely gone. probably just saw how far he could milk it until people started posting on the forum and he got marked as a scammer.
man i really wish you had posted about this on thurs/fri in either of his threads. i would never have ordered from him if i heard any bad feedback at all.
when you get your btc back (lucky duck) place an order with vicodin or paperchasing. they both sell roxis and are 100% legit. vic will ask you to finalize early if you're a new buyer, but that's not a big deal. he's got a great rep.
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I haven't ordered from this guy, but have you guys read this post from him?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=6053.msg55307#msg55307
If it's been less than a week since you ordered, I'd wait a bit before getting concerned. Plus, if you ordered through escrow, as you always should, I wouldn't worry at all. If he's legit, give him time to sort it out. He's a new seller and admitted that he's inefficient, but said he was shipping orders Monday. Which means you should probably give it about another week if he did in fact ship. He might've been not reading PMs because he's backed up. If it turns out he's shady, go through SR resolution center. If you're one of those who finalized early, you should know you do it at your own risk.
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Wow Man that Sux! I really hope y'all get squared away before week is over. I've been where your at. If 10 days pass your BC's are gone. If you really feel you've been Scammed you Gotta Report to Silk Road so no one else gets Fucked.
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I placed a order with him last week Thurs. and he NEVER asked me to finalize early. Which I NEVER DO ANYWAY!! He just asked me to promise to finalize as soon as I get the product. Which I always do. :) He told me it should be here Mon. or Tues. Nothing yet, but I know UPS is slow coming from certain areas. I'm guessing he sent mine Monday like he's telling everybody else. Well my only headache is if he did go dark. I have to wait for my bitcoins in escrow. But it seems weird to try and rip some people of when in its escrow.
P.S. Please people stop going out of escrow! These people can be cool and all. But they are DRUG DEALERS!! There not your friends!! There NOT doing you a favor. Your paying them! And they make money.
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hmmm - new on here and just placed an order with him. I last checked the forum just before this thread started, so i didn't have too much concern about finalizing early. Now I do. Hope this come through for everyone.
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edball if you finalized would you use your feedback to alert everyone he has pulled a scam
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No, I didn't finalize yet luckily. But I was going to....
Thing is, as I just made my first batch of orders, I hadn't yet realized that a vendor could get a high rating from people finalizing early.
So I trusted the rating and wasn't concerned until I luckily searched for my vendors again.
This is a HUGE weakness in the SR system, I hope it gets sorted out soon.
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I figured something was up with this guy. When its too good to be true, it probably is.... Stick to known vendors or better yet, stay within the escrow system, thats what it's for.... I personally offer both choices, but I dont force anything on anyone. But, you should always tread with caution with someone that's new... BTW, Ill have opana 40 ER and IRs very soon..
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I was shocked when I saw feedback stating finalizing early for a trusted seller... and so on. Who does this? The guy has only been on here a week.
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Why EnderTheHegemon when we have ChronicPain and MmrDrroMcnulty? I would not buy from EnderTheHegemon if the same products were offered by either of these vendors even at a higher price.
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I placed an order for an item that neither of those vendors have. My order is still siting in escrow but he did ask me to finalize early. I always balk at anyone that asks. Anyone else that have an order in escrow?
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I was shocked when I saw feedback stating finalizing early for a trusted seller... and so on. Who does this? The guy has only been on here a week.
That was not obvious to me as a noob, until my third night of constant reading in the forums. I looked at his rating etc, and the comments therin, and deduced he WAS a trusted seller....
There are some obvious ways to mitigate this type of thing - change the rating system so buyers can see that feedback is from early finalizers, and NOT use early finalizers in the calculation of the ratings, etc
And also maybe to have some kind of "on probation" status for new vendors....
But i guess this is not the place for that discussion, I haven't even started reading that section of the forum yet......
Ed
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I was shocked when I saw feedback stating finalizing early for a trusted seller... and so on. Who does this? The guy has only been on here a week.
That was not obvious to me as a noob, until my third night of constant reading in the forums. I looked at his rating etc, and the comments therin, and deduced he WAS a trusted seller....
There are some obvious ways to mitigate this type of thing - change the rating system so buyers can see that feedback is from early finalizers, and NOT use early finalizers in the calculation of the ratings, etc
And also maybe to have some kind of "on probation" status for new vendors....
But i guess this is not the place for that discussion, I haven't even started reading that section of the forum yet......
Ed
I thought it might have been fake feedback.
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I was shocked when I saw feedback stating finalizing early for a trusted seller... and so on. Who does this? The guy has only been on here a week.
That was not obvious to me as a noob, until my third night of constant reading in the forums. I looked at his rating etc, and the comments therin, and deduced he WAS a trusted seller....
There are some obvious ways to mitigate this type of thing - change the rating system so buyers can see that feedback is from early finalizers, and NOT use early finalizers in the calculation of the ratings, etc
And also maybe to have some kind of "on probation" status for new vendors....
But i guess this is not the place for that discussion, I haven't even started reading that section of the forum yet......
Ed
just don't finalize early for a seller you have never worked with. what right does a brand new vendor have to request people finalize early? he gives the bullshit excuse "i can't afford to have my funds tied up." bullshit. when half of the feedback is "finalizing early" something is fishy. and why are people saying "finalizing early for a trusted seller" when he most definitely is not a trusted seller. be cautious and don't finalize early with vendors you personally have not had a successful transaction with.
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I can totally understand a vendor wating a buyer to finalize early, if the buyer is also a total noob.
As a noob buyer, what right do I have to ask people to send me free drugs then just hope I might pay them and not be a total ass?
Doesn't mean its a good idea though. And from the transactions I have had so far I would say its not even necessary.
BUT....
My point is that I didn't recognize right away that that this guy was a brand new vendor. I had even spent a couple of evenings browsing around the forums trying to get a handle on things, but I still DID NOT recognize that this person was NOT a trusted member of the community.
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Well so much for my saved BC;s to Buy 10+ 80mg OP's. Good thing I waited like I always do with New Vendors who talk too much. I'm really sorry guys,
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I bought from Ender about a week ago, went through escrow and didn't finalize early. He came through for me, and more. His communication was excellent, he also seemed intelligent and on the ball. He also upgraded me all the way to UPS Next day (about a $60 value I believe) even though I didn't order any sort of upgraded shipping. I am truly shocked by all of this. I really thought he would be a valued addition to this community. To me, this and ESPECIALLY Sum Yun Gai going 'scam', has dealt a bit of a blow to us, the SR community. We need to learn from this. First, be careful with MP to BTC. I personally only use it in emergency situations and don't transfer more than I can afford to lose. Next, guys, don't go out of escrow. It is the brick in the SR complex, and what sets it apart from other marketplaces all over the internet. Also, use it the way it was intended, don't finalize early - there's a little thing called hedging.
For some reason, maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I still have the slightest glimmer of hope that Ender will come through, lets stay optimistic (It's good for you!)
-WhoDat
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Thanks, WhoDat....
I've ordered from him but I haven't paid. Plus I'm a noob myself.
This means I think I can be a bit more objective than most - I haven't been ripped off yet, and I havent got any of my orders yet.
ETH has not attended to my order yet, but the same applies to someone who is a well trusted and reputable vendor. So it goes both ways....
personally, I think it's too early to tell, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I can understand why people start freaking out as soon as things go off the script but it hasn't been long yet.
I perfectly understand however, those who feel otherwise, I am lucky that I have nothing to lose so far.
Ed
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If your buying opiates and any of these vendors are in stock buy from them. paying 24btc and getting your shit is better than paying 20 and asking for a DCN that never arrives LOL @ GUMMY.
BUY OPIATES FROM
DroMcnulty
ChronicPain
AnchientLib
all 3 can be trusted there is a few more but they are who I think of
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If your buying opiates and any of these vendors are in stock buy from them. paying 24btc and getting your shit is better than paying 20 and asking for a DCN that never arrives LOL @ GUMMY.
BUY OPIATES FROM
DroMcnulty
ChronicPain
AnchientLib
all 3 can be trusted there is a few more but they are who I think of
If your buying opiates and any of these vendors are in stock buy from them. paying 24btc and getting your shit is better than paying 20 and asking for a DCN that never arrives LOL @ GUMMY.
BUY OPIATES FROM
DroMcnulty
ChronicPain
AnchientLib
all 3 can be trusted there is a few more but they are who I think of
also, pharmville is indeed quite excellent too.
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Yea, I think you can trust that Chronicpain guy, I think he's ok, at least that is what his wife tells me. But, yea, don't forget about pharmville, they are some stand up guys...(or gals)
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Well guys, I hate to be bearer of bad news, but this EnderTheHedgeman is hitting all the sites similar to SR.
He apparently scored big time at OV, something or another?
Friend of mine mentioned the scam he uses is Internet/Affinity Scam.
He only has a certain amount of Inventory, but that is Bait Inventory and he’s willing to part with it to gain affinity among a group. In this case it’s people that like Opiates.
Claims to have vast sources of supplies and inventory. He wont use USPS cause of possibility of losing Bait Inventory so he makes sure it gets there and tracked.
He builds up lots of trust and makes sure to make a huge fuss about everything to gain empathy and have novices put their guard down. Once he’s down to the last of the Bait Product, he takes as many orders as he can. Tells his victims he needs money to score a huge inventory but if you pay him upfront, you will get additional compensation.
Then The Sting.
Everyone that gave money upfront gets same story and time frame for getting goods, but you will get additional goodies for paying upfront.
The End