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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: nationchemz on September 07, 2013, 03:18 am

Title: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 07, 2013, 03:18 am
VISIT MY VENDOR PAGE AT: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ff4bda8aa3

Nationchemz is offering raw uncut cocaine. The last time air hit this coke was in Columbia. Feel free to test for purity as you will be surprised. If you have any questions feel free to message me.


SHIPPING:

**DO NOT BUY MY LISTINGS IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE USA. IF YOU WISH COKE TO BE SENT TO YOU AND YOU ARE NOT IN THE USA PLEASE MESSAGE ME; I TAKE THIS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. JUST AN FYI, FE IS REQUIRED FOR INTERNATIONAL SHIPMENTS; SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FE PLEASE DO NOT MESSAGE ME**

Shipping price is a flat $25 for all cocaine orders . Methylone orders up to 1kg are also $25. Methylone orders of 1kg to 5kg is $50 flat shipping.

We ship everything via USPS express. Expect your package in 1-2 business days!

**UPDATE: HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH SETTING UP USPS PRINTED LABELS ANONYMOUSLY, BUT I THINK I HAVE FOUND A METHOD THAT WORKS FOR THE EXPRESS SHIPPING. GIVE ME THE WEEKEND TO WORK OUT THE KINKS AND OFFICIAL PRE-PAID PRINTED EXPRESS POSTAGE STICKERS SHOULD START 9/30/2013**

All packages will be vacuum sealed then put into a MBB to avoid detection. We do track our packages and will we will keep the tracking info in case of dispute resolution. If the tracking says DELIVERED, NOTICE LEFT or UNDELIVERABLE we consider this fulfilling our end of the agreement. Also, be advised that we will be using a fictitious return address for our protection.

**I WILL NOT SEND TO POST OFFICE GENERAL DELIVERY**

**IF YOU ARE SENDING TO A POST OFFICE BOX MAKE SURE THAT THE NAME YOU GIVE ME MATCHES THE POST OFFICE BOX. THE POST OFFICE WILL REFUSE YOUR DELIVERY OTHERWISE**

***WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU GIVE US THE WRONG ADDRESS OR ARE NOT THERE TO RECEIVE THE PACKAGE AND SOMEONE TAKES IT FROM THE DOORSTEP. PLEASE GIVE US THE CORRECT ADDRESS AND BE READY TO RECEIVE GOODS IN ORDER TO AVOID ANY LOSS ON YOUR END***

We do understand crazy things happen and if for some reason your package is not delivered we will discount your next order 50% of lost shipment. However, if the next shipment doesn't arrive then there is nothing more I can do.

USPS Express shipping has the option of being sent with or without the signature requirement.

We ship three days a week; Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Cutoff is 9pm CST.

Always use PGP when sending me your address.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: darkmagic65 on September 07, 2013, 03:28 am
what happend if you use it and dont cut it? just curious
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 07, 2013, 03:36 am
It's just a warning I have to put on it. You won't die or anything, but pure coke straight from the source is unpleasant unless you cut it. Most good coke is 50-70% pure; this is just enough to get it into powder form. Pure 100% coke is a liquid.

My street customers are complaining because it is too strong.

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: bobhope333 on September 07, 2013, 10:34 am
It's just a warning I have to put on it. You won't die or anything, but pure coke straight from the source is unpleasant unless you cut it. Most good coke is 50-70% pure; this is just enough to get it into powder form. Pure 100% coke is a liquid.

My street customers are complaining because it is too strong.

NCZ
In it's pure form Cocaine HCl is incredibly hygroscopic. This means that it absorbs all the moisture it can from the atmosphere. This property leads to the Cocaine HCl being a soft, wet paste. Ie, pure coke is a crystalline white powder, it only becomes a liquid through absorbing moisture from the atmosphere.
Perhaps I'm being a tad pedantic but.......
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: fakename709 on September 07, 2013, 11:40 am

In it's pure form Cocaine HCl is incredibly hygroscopic. This means that it absorbs all the moisture it can from the atmosphere. This property leads to the Cocaine HCl being a soft, wet paste. Ie, pure coke is a crystalline white powder, it only becomes a liquid through absorbing moisture from the atmosphere.
Perhaps I'm being a tad pedantic but.......
You are not. I knew Mephedrone was hygroscopic but from what you say pure coke is like that as well. Hope I will see some 100% Cocaine HCL someday.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: TorXic on September 07, 2013, 01:33 pm
please, stop.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: orggangster on September 07, 2013, 03:23 pm
Haha Bullshit no thing ass to pure cocaine and where in the process off making Hcl is it 100% liquid cocaine alkaloids? its always diluted in water or a solvent in the process or its in base.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: 88fxstc on September 08, 2013, 01:53 am
Well, After a few PM's with NTZ I decided to give these guys a try. There's really no proper review yet as far as I know , but, I like to try new vendors if I get a good feeling about them as far as integrity towards their business. These guys gave me a good feeling, and , my gut feelings haven't seemed to let me down yet.  So, I'll know in a few days if we have a good , new domestic C vendor . We could definitely use some new guys on this side of the Atlantic . Sure, we still have some good American vendors but it seems more and more that much of the top coke, not all, but a lot,  is coming from the EU. I got my fingers crossed as far as product and customer service goes with Nationchemz.  I'll post a review after I get down with their product.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: Chopper on September 12, 2013, 01:37 pm
Sub'in!

WILL HAVE TO CUT IT BEFORE USE!!!!
LOL, I can't wait to see reviews of this stuff...
Nothing better than quality Coke (except more quality coke)  ;D !
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: gentso99 on September 12, 2013, 03:36 pm
It is also worth stating that this vendor requires FE..........

Remove your FE requirements and I would love to you a shot.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 12, 2013, 06:42 pm
It is also worth stating that this vendor requires FE..........

Remove your FE requirements and I would love to you a shot.

Please read carefully; I require FE for international shipments and I take those on a case by case basis. All domestic is escrow.

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 12, 2013, 06:48 pm
Sub'in!

WILL HAVE TO CUT IT BEFORE USE!!!!
LOL, I can't wait to see reviews of this stuff...
Nothing better than quality Coke (except more quality coke)  ;D !

Negative, high quality coke is very unpleasant to do. If I cut this coke 30% you would probably not even realize it, but I don't do it so please be careful.

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: 88fxstc on September 12, 2013, 07:13 pm
These guys don't require FE. Unless they changed their rules since I ordered from them a few days ago. Oh, OK, I just saw it's FE for international orders. Their prices are really good compared  to a lot of other C vendors on the Road .
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: Bennett4545 on September 16, 2013, 04:16 pm
I just placed an order for a sample.  I really want someone very reliable on shipping express within 24 hours of ordering.  I'll post my review here, and in the "official" threads.

-B45

Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: gentso99 on September 16, 2013, 04:27 pm
It is also worth stating that this vendor requires FE..........

Remove your FE requirements and I would love to you a shot.

Please read carefully; I require FE for international shipments and I take those on a case by case basis. All domestic is escrow.

NCZ
That is my mistake, I look forward to sampling your wares :)
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 16, 2013, 05:11 pm
It's all good; hope you enjoy.

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: acr115 on September 17, 2013, 01:37 am
Sub'in!

WILL HAVE TO CUT IT BEFORE USE!!!!
LOL, I can't wait to see reviews of this stuff...
Nothing better than quality Coke (except more quality coke)  ;D !

Negative, high quality coke is very unpleasant to do. If I cut this coke 30% you would probably not even realize it, but I don't do it so please be careful.

NCZ
Sounds interesting
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on September 17, 2013, 02:32 am
I've never heard of coke so strrong it needs cutting!

I do know that pharm grade or any strong coke, you are best to use a nose atomiser to dissolve any rocks of cocaine which absorb better and helps your nose stay healthy and not blocked up if its a 12 hr session and coke on the menu  ;D Soon will be for me! Special dinner.  ;)

Anyway if ypou require no FE, its easy tto buy. EZ test for cuts and purity and lab test also though that is haphazard for me and results trimmed and edited to stop any ID of source. If it was not as you advertise I'd certainly raise the issue as coke is expensive, we work hard to buy bit, we have some right to expect to get 'the real thing'

I'm not doubting your claim, maybe you mean we should use distilled water after each bump.

Sounds good to me, I always do that with proper coke.

Welcome to the whinging!
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 17, 2013, 07:48 am
Crazy how many people run around with test kits these days; good thing all my shit is fucking raw.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: junjo on September 20, 2013, 03:02 am
Sub'in!

WILL HAVE TO CUT IT BEFORE USE!!!!
LOL, I can't wait to see reviews of this stuff...
Nothing better than quality Coke (except more quality coke)  ;D !

Negative, high quality coke is very unpleasant to do. If I cut this coke 30% you would probably not even realize it, but I don't do it so please be careful.

NCZ

Can you explain this to me please? Uncut Cocaine HCl should be a pearly, white powder, and would be extremely pleasant to insufflate due to its topical anesthetic properties. Cocaine HCl is also NEVER a liquid, as it has a melting point of that above 200 degrees farenheit. Yes, it is hygroscopic, but under proper storage it will NOT become a liquid (aka absorb water) and still remain a solid white powder.

None of your points (needs to be cut, unpleasant to snort, anything more "pure" would be liquid, etc. etc.) make any sense, or have any real scientific basis, and only hurt your credibility as a vendor, and speak negatively about the true purity of your product.

You might really want to revise your business approach, because as indicated by your current karma, people aren't buying into this act very well.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: anonypunk on September 20, 2013, 03:32 am
Seconded.

I could go on as well but others have stated it already. You'd do best to delete this whole thread and start over after you learn what the fuck you're talking about.

BTW. Have you even done coke at all? You sound like a child.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 06:41 am
I'm done breaking shit down. Look at the reviews on my vendor page; they speak for my product.

If you want to break shit down to the molecular level then I am not the one to talk to. No, I have never done coke. I have never done any drug. I have never taken a drink. I am 13 years old.

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: bobhope333 on September 20, 2013, 08:02 am
Sub'in!

WILL HAVE TO CUT IT BEFORE USE!!!!
LOL, I can't wait to see reviews of this stuff...
Nothing better than quality Coke (except more quality coke)  ;D !

Negative, high quality coke is very unpleasant to do. If I cut this coke 30% you would probably not even realize it, but I don't do it so please be careful.

NCZ

Can you explain this to me please? Uncut Cocaine HCl should be a pearly, white powder, and would be extremely pleasant to insufflate due to its topical anesthetic properties. Cocaine HCl is also NEVER a liquid, as it has a melting point of that above 200 degrees farenheit. Yes, it is hygroscopic, but under proper storage it will NOT become a liquid (aka absorb water) and still remain a solid white powder.

None of your points (needs to be cut, unpleasant to snort, anything more "pure" would be liquid, etc. etc.) make any sense, or have any real scientific basis, and only hurt your credibility as a vendor, and speak negatively about the true purity of your product.

You might really want to revise your business approach, because as indicated by your current karma, people aren't buying into this act very well.
Totally agree, I did raise a similar point, but a bit more diplomatically, lol, to save my karma!
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: Candy on September 20, 2013, 08:21 am
I'm done breaking shit down. Look at the reviews on my vendor page; they speak for my product.

If you want to break shit down to the molecular level then I am not the one to talk to. No, I have never done coke. I have never done any drug. I have never taken a drink. I am 13 years old.

NCZ

Lol. I love how you get all defensive and insulted (You sound like a little PMS'ing girl), when people start to dispute your claims!

Please tell me how/why you think pure coke is unpleasant? I have had yje real pure shit from Koltbiz, and I can tell you, that pure coke is probably the most awesome feeling I have ever had!

Furthermore, you should really listen to all the other people trying to give you advice! All of them are actually right in the things they say!

You cant use your ratings as proof of good quality! Lots of buyers don't really know quality, and a lot leaves a 5/5 as standard in an attempt to avoid angry vendors!

Like some have told you earlier, I am not saying that your product isn't good, but I am saying that your sales-pitch is utter bullshit, and as you can see, the majority of forum users is not buying!

If you delete this thread, and make up a sales-pitch that actually makes sense, I am quite sure that this will soon be forgotten, and if the product is anyway near as good as you are claiming, you should become very successful. But I also feel pretty sure that anyone who knows good coke, and comes here to check up on your product (after seeing it on the road) will be turned of by your descriptions!

Again: This is not meant as an assault, but merely as a piece of good advice, that you can either take or leave. It is all up to you!
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 09:34 am
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-diehard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: junjo on September 20, 2013, 09:54 am
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 10:23 am
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 10:48 am
Changed a few things in the listing up. Hope this makes people happy????
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: DrCol on September 20, 2013, 11:43 am
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ

Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: eindhoven on September 20, 2013, 11:45 am
nationchemz i wait for the first reviews about your product ... we will see the purity  ;) :o 8) ::)
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: DrCol on September 20, 2013, 12:31 pm
Also, all cocaine, can be made to look like pure fish scale rock. It is just a matter of how much acetone was used during the rocking process. The more acetone, the more rock solid scaly it will get. But, pure cocaine will shimmer even in powder form. I have actually been preferring some of my less rocky cocaine batches because it is just cleaner, no gasoline/acetone smell. Equally as strong as some of my hard as a rock Bolivian. I always keep dessicants in my storage to allow the cocaine to break down easily for everyone. It also allows people to be able to absorb the product better into their bodies and cut into lines without sticking together.

I would suggest getting reusable silica bead containers and putting it in your storage space. That cocaine will crack apart and stay pure fluffy powder for at least a few hours in the the humid weather once it gets taken out of my packaging.

A hot plate will easily sort any H2O....no need to worry.

Your point re fish scale and rock is well made. Anyone who knows their cola will not bother raving about "rocks" or scale...that's usually a sign of re-pack (read cut!)

Anyway, I would still say that advertising an impossible purity is not a good idea. Even the medical grade has a little bind - in many many years I have never found anything approaching 95%...I do not advertise purity percentile on my listings, but I do know mine lies in the 80s (using my own test lab) and this was recently supported independently. It doesn't get much higher in my experience.

However, the absence of poisonous adulterants and toxic cuts is important to me and should be to any responsible vendor. I test for these thoroughly and guarantee their absence.

Doc
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: bobhope333 on September 20, 2013, 04:38 pm
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.
This has turned into an episode off of "Dragon's Den", lol. The new business entrepreneur has finally had his business accepted by one of the Dragon's (Coke thread member), after a shaky presentation.
Will the other "Dragon's" buy into it as well???
Look forward to next weeks episode, when "Dragon" junjo comes back with his comprehensive audit and appraisal of the product!!!
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: DrCol on September 20, 2013, 05:35 pm
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.
This has turned into an episode off of "Dragon's Den", lol. The new business entrepreneur has finally had his business accepted by one of the Dragon's (Coke thread member), after a shaky presentation.
Will the other "Dragon's" buy into it as well???
Look forward to next weeks episode, when "Dragon" junjo comes back with his comprehensive audit and appraisal of the product!!!

I can't shift the image of Hilary Devey in an alternate life on here now... :)
LOL
Doc
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 10:36 pm
Honestly, my coke is so strong just like yours if not better, but, I would never tell my customers to cut it. It may make you not very social, but, jesus, not a very good marketing technique. People are looking for that strong stuff, and do not want cut in it or to have to cut it themselves for no reason. My 2 cents! Look at my vendor page. If you read the forums alll everyone is asking for is uncut and never would want to shove something up their nose besides cocaine HCL. To keep it from being wet use a dessicant of some sort. You gotta be a pro to make it on here.

Good luck,
--CSF

Well, I changed my listing a bit. hope this makes everyone happy. We can let the free market work things out.

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 10:38 pm
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ

Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc

I took a look at your vendor page and it seems like you are actually more concerned about making money than I am. I'm not knocking your hustle, but damn your prices are up there.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 10:52 pm
nationchemz i wait for the first reviews about your product ... we will see the purity  ;) :o 8) ::)

I can't wait either!
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 20, 2013, 10:57 pm
Also, all cocaine, can be made to look like pure fish scale rock. It is just a matter of how much acetone was used during the rocking process. The more acetone, the more rock solid scaly it will get. But, pure cocaine will shimmer even in powder form. I have actually been preferring some of my less rocky cocaine batches because it is just cleaner, no gasoline/acetone smell. Equally as strong as some of my hard as a rock Bolivian. I always keep dessicants in my storage to allow the cocaine to break down easily for everyone. It also allows people to be able to absorb the product better into their bodies and cut into lines without sticking together.

I would suggest getting reusable silica bead containers and putting it in your storage space. That cocaine will crack apart and stay pure fluffy powder for at least a few hours in the the humid weather once it gets taken out of my packaging.

You can also buy cut to make gear look like fishscale. Whats crazy is acetone has nothing to do with how shiny the coke is (unless your doing an acetone wash); it's a binding agent used in the re-rocking process. Thanks for the storage advice.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on September 20, 2013, 11:29 pm
Anyone can make a powder that looks like cocaine. Or a block, complete with stamp.

But it won't beat the EZ test, so unless I see that result I'm always going to sit that one out.

Hope anyone who bought this is satisfied.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: DrCol on September 21, 2013, 10:48 am
okay, I give in. I am going to try my best to explain things in the most respectful and mature manner as possible. Lets just get a few things straight. I have done and dealt a lot of coke and this is the best product I have come across. I'm also not 13 (as I said in my last post), so don't think that I am new to what I am doing or the experiences I have had. I will tell you that I no longer do drugs and am enjoying my life drug free. Anyway, enough about me; lets answer some questions:

When I refer to liquid cocaine I am referring to an oily/pasty mixture after the either has been evaporated. Anyone can make liquid coke just because of the solubility properties, but that does not mean it is pure, it just means it is diluted. In order for cocaine to bond properly enough you need to add a little cut at production and this is the point where you diminish the quality 5-10%. As far as it being unpleasant; that refers to non-hard core coke heads. If you do a lot of coke you shouldn't have an issue with this and if you cook you will love it.

Is my cocaine 95% pure exactly; maybe not. But I can't get perfect percentages because hardly any of the product has burned away at 187 degrees Fahrenheit and the anhydrous acetone test I did showed very little adulterants.

So if you don't want to buy my product because you don't agree with the way I market it then more power to ya. If you don't want to buy it because I don't know every intricate detail of the molecular makeup of what I am selling then I'm okay with that. But don't get on here and start taking all sorts of shit when you don't know all the facts and have never even tried or tested my product; that's just ignorant. I'm guessing a lot of you have home test kits and maybe even some of you have very sophisticated lab grade equipment to make sure every vendor lives up to their word. That's good and keeps places like Silk Road a safer place to get the gear you want. And finally, I am not going to delete this thread/username; only a weak person would give into the pressures of a forum community. So, say what you got to say and I will do my best to answer questions; just know that I don't have a PHD in chemistry so you might want to give the kid a break.

Thanks,

NCZ

Once again, for your own good, you may want to consider starting over with this account. You seem like a great seller from your stats over on the SR, but here, your 1/50 karma ratio is NOT something to be proud of.  Thank you for admitting that you don't use the drugs or understand the chemistry behind them, that helped clear some things up.
I actually have faith in your product, and I ordered it and will write a completely unbiased review for the rest of the forum to read once it arrives.

However in the meantime, since you are not a coke user or a chemist (both of which i am), here are my suggestions:

-Do not list it as 95% pure. The BEST you're gonna get is around 85-ish. Saying 95% buys you no credibility.

-Remove the "liquid" thing from the description entirely. Now that you explained it better, I get what you are implying, and I am actually excited to try your product because of it. However, describing it as such does you no favors.

-Also remove the "needs to be cut" bit. The best coke I have ever done was very off-putting visually. It looked like big fat shiny clumps that were going to rape my nostrils because they were so wet and sticky, not powdery at all like i expected. However, with enough chopping and fucking around, I was able to get a decent "line" out of it. And holy shit, was it fantastic. There was absolutely no burn, and I could feel it dissolve straight into my mucous membrane, leaving an ice cold, numbing drip behind. Listing a benefit as a downside makes no sense.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

-Take a break from the forums. End this account and give yourself some time to build your reputation here back. Once again, you scared away many potential posters here with your posting, and your karma is irreversibly boned. Stick to bringing in and shipping quality product quickly, those are obviously your strong suits. Chemistry and communication are apparently not. Get rid of that "100k a year methylone cook" thread also, and I don't want to even go into why that's ridiculous.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm really not. If I was an asshole I wouldn't have bothered to give you any constructive criticism at all. Stick to your strong suits, and don't waste your time in these forums, where clearly you've already made many enemies.

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ

Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc

I took a look at your vendor page and it seems like you are actually more concerned about making money than I am. I'm not knocking your hustle, but damn your prices are up there.

NCZ

The pricing is in line with other similar product and reflects the quality of service I provide.
Cash is not my main driver here, as this is really an addition to my main business
Doc
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: Isobetadine on September 21, 2013, 11:31 am

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ



Congratulations,

you have succesfully written out the train of thought of :

-Scammers  selective or otherwise.
-Vendors with the intention of going ROGUE at "some point.
-Vendors with no scrupules,morals or integrity.
-Vendors motivated ONLY by greed who contaminate this business with their lies,big mouth and cowboy-attitude.

ALL of them are the fuel for the "war on drugs"-machine.
You see how they clash with the Silk Road-ideals??

So your product better pass the tests flying colours 'cause from the way you present yourself and your product STINKS.

>>Good product doesn't need marketing! You buyers will get the word out. .
>>Good vendors don't resort to bullshit talk and honesty oozes from their words.
They also are not afraid of taking responsabilities for their acts!




Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc


THIS is a vendor that get's the point and spirit of SILK ROAD.Bring change in a positive way
We are bombarded with exgageration and other forms of verbal dishonesty by enough vendors/politicians in the real world and here.Be it the illicit market or the legal one.

People with a  "Ends justify the means"-mentality actually  got us where we are in the first place when it comes to negative aspects of our society.
So whatever your profession may be,don't lose your integrity and follow reason.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: gentso99 on September 21, 2013, 07:31 pm
I am going to give the vendor a shot. I will update all on product once it arrives.

Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 22, 2013, 12:41 am
I am going to give the vendor a shot. I will update all on product once it arrives.

Thank you gentso99. My product will speak for itself.
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 22, 2013, 12:56 am

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ



Congratulations,

you have succesfully written out the train of thought of :

-Scammers  selective or otherwise.
-Vendors with the intention of going ROGUE at "some point.
-Vendors with no scrupules,morals or integrity.
-Vendors motivated ONLY by greed who contaminate this business with their lies,big mouth and cowboy-attitude.

ALL of them are the fuel for the "war on drugs"-machine.
You see how they clash with the Silk Road-ideals??

So your product better pass the tests flying colours 'cause from the way you present yourself and your product STINKS.

>>Good product doesn't need marketing! You buyers will get the word out. .
>>Good vendors don't resort to bullshit talk and honesty oozes from their words.
They also are not afraid of taking responsabilities for their acts!




Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc


THIS is a vendor that get's the point and spirit of SILK ROAD.Bring change in a positive way
We are bombarded with exgageration and other forms of verbal dishonesty by enough vendors/politicians in the real world and here.Be it the illicit market or the legal one.

People with a  "Ends justify the means"-mentality actually  got us where we are in the first place when it comes to negative aspects of our society.
So whatever your profession may be,don't lose your integrity and follow reason.

Listen my dude. I never fucked anyone over who didn't have it coming to them. I'm as fair and lenient as they get, but don't get it twisted and take my kindness for weakness. Maybe I should start selling my product at $20 a gram to see how much more whining I can get out of the other vendors. Honestly, I would rather not fight or start a bidding war cause it fucks shit up for everyone but I will if my competition keeps coming on this thread and talking shit. So it's your choice; work together in harmony and stop whining or keep pushing Nationchemz buttons forcing me become more competitive. I promise your movement and ideals will become second place when you don't have any money for food to feed your kids. The world is a free market not a movement and silk road represents the world. Until you realize that, I will keep preforming better service, offering better product and giving cheaper prices to drive out vendors that want to take peoples hard earned money through price gouging. It's your choice; I just put who I am out on the table.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: Bennett4545 on September 22, 2013, 02:52 pm
I got some of Nation's coke this week.  I was impressed that he actually shipped express mail within 24 hours.  That is a major pet peeve of mine when you pay that premium and have to wait 3 days for the vendor to accept the order.

That said, I was not terribly impressed with his gear.  I know coke is very subjective, but I thought this was to speedy and twitchy.  It just felt dirty, and I had a real bad sore and runny nose after I finished my gram. 

I'm comparing this to Bungee54, Sukey, Studio54 and Bcpltd.  All of whom (with the maybe exception of bcpltd) I think are selling a better product. 

Hope not to offend, just my two cents.

-B45
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: DrCol on September 22, 2013, 05:02 pm

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ



Congratulations,

you have succesfully written out the train of thought of :

-Scammers  selective or otherwise.
-Vendors with the intention of going ROGUE at "some point.
-Vendors with no scrupules,morals or integrity.
-Vendors motivated ONLY by greed who contaminate this business with their lies,big mouth and cowboy-attitude.

ALL of them are the fuel for the "war on drugs"-machine.
You see how they clash with the Silk Road-ideals??

So your product better pass the tests flying colours 'cause from the way you present yourself and your product STINKS.

>>Good product doesn't need marketing! You buyers will get the word out. .
>>Good vendors don't resort to bullshit talk and honesty oozes from their words.
They also are not afraid of taking responsabilities for their acts!




Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc


THIS is a vendor that get's the point and spirit of SILK ROAD.Bring change in a positive way
We are bombarded with exgageration and other forms of verbal dishonesty by enough vendors/politicians in the real world and here.Be it the illicit market or the legal one.

People with a  "Ends justify the means"-mentality actually  got us where we are in the first place when it comes to negative aspects of our society.
So whatever your profession may be,don't lose your integrity and follow reason.

Listen my dude. I never fucked anyone over who didn't have it coming to them. I'm as fair and lenient as they get, but don't get it twisted and take my kindness for weakness. Maybe I should start selling my product at $20 a gram to see how much more whining I can get out of the other vendors. Honestly, I would rather not fight or start a bidding war cause it fucks shit up for everyone but I will if my competition keeps coming on this thread and talking shit. So it's your choice; work together in harmony and stop whining or keep pushing Nationchemz buttons forcing me become more competitive. I promise your movement and ideals will become second place when you don't have any money for food to feed your kids. The world is a free market not a movement and silk road represents the world. Until you realize that, I will keep preforming better service, offering better product and giving cheaper prices to drive out vendors that want to take peoples hard earned money through price gouging. It's your choice; I just put who I am out on the table.

NCZ

Now you're just talking bollocks mate (in the friendliest way possible of course)

Good luck with this attitude - you're going to need it....let's see the reviews come in and your business operate for more than five minutes and we will judge how "competitive" you are then :)

Doc
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 22, 2013, 09:07 pm
I got some of Nation's coke this week.  I was impressed that he actually shipped express mail within 24 hours.  That is a major pet peeve of mine when you pay that premium and have to wait 3 days for the vendor to accept the order.

That said, I was not terribly impressed with his gear.  I know coke is very subjective, but I thought this was to speedy and twitchy.  It just felt dirty, and I had a real bad sore and runny nose after I finished my gram. 

I'm comparing this to Bungee54, Sukey, Studio54 and Bcpltd.  All of whom (with the maybe exception of bcpltd) I think are selling a better product. 

Hope not to offend, just my two cents.

-B45

I'm not offended; it's a fair review and you are free to express your experience without judgement.

Thanks,

NCZ
Title: Re: COCAINE SO PURE YOU HAVE TO CUT IT!
Post by: nationchemz on September 22, 2013, 09:18 pm

I will tell you what my strong suit is and it is making money. I'm not talking about SR, which I am happy to find because I see a lot of potential in it, but real world business. This is more or less a hobby for me right now that may grow into something very profitable one day. I understand that you think I should delete this forum acct and start over but I have a lot of things going on in this forum that are not pubic knowledge and it would be a bad business decision to delete this acct. I will consider changing the vocabulary in listings as you have raised some good points from a marketing perspective; I appreciate it. Hopefully you can see that I'm not an unreasonable person; just a businessman and I will always do what I think is best for my business.

NCZ



Congratulations,

you have succesfully written out the train of thought of :

-Scammers  selective or otherwise.
-Vendors with the intention of going ROGUE at "some point.
-Vendors with no scrupules,morals or integrity.
-Vendors motivated ONLY by greed who contaminate this business with their lies,big mouth and cowboy-attitude.

ALL of them are the fuel for the "war on drugs"-machine.
You see how they clash with the Silk Road-ideals??

So your product better pass the tests flying colours 'cause from the way you present yourself and your product STINKS.

>>Good product doesn't need marketing! You buyers will get the word out. .
>>Good vendors don't resort to bullshit talk and honesty oozes from their words.
They also are not afraid of taking responsabilities for their acts!




Your strong suit "making money" is also not likely to win too many friends or influence...that's why we sell, of course, but the road (in my opinion) is also about quality of service, community, knowledge and integrity...sure we can profit from the activity, but many here I believe are on the road as something of a crusade.

They demand facts and expect no bullshit.

Just worth bearing in mind if you wish to have a prosperous and enjoyable time here...

Doc


THIS is a vendor that get's the point and spirit of SILK ROAD.Bring change in a positive way
We are bombarded with exgageration and other forms of verbal dishonesty by enough vendors/politicians in the real world and here.Be it the illicit market or the legal one.

People with a  "Ends justify the means"-mentality actually  got us where we are in the first place when it comes to negative aspects of our society.
So whatever your profession may be,don't lose your integrity and follow reason.

Listen my dude. I never fucked anyone over who didn't have it coming to them. I'm as fair and lenient as they get, but don't get it twisted and take my kindness for weakness. Maybe I should start selling my product at $20 a gram to see how much more whining I can get out of the other vendors. Honestly, I would rather not fight or start a bidding war cause it fucks shit up for everyone but I will if my competition keeps coming on this thread and talking shit. So it's your choice; work together in harmony and stop whining or keep pushing Nationchemz buttons forcing me become more competitive. I promise your movement and ideals will become second place when you don't have any money for food to feed your kids. The world is a free market not a movement and silk road represents the world. Until you realize that, I will keep preforming better service, offering better product and giving cheaper prices to drive out vendors that want to take peoples hard earned money through price gouging. It's your choice; I just put who I am out on the table.

NCZ

Now you're just talking bollocks mate (in the friendliest way possible of course)

Good luck with this attitude - you're going to need it....let's see the reviews come in and your business operate for more than five minutes and we will judge how "competitive" you are then :)

Doc

Fair enough.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: gentso99 on September 24, 2013, 11:58 am
I am going to give the vendor a shot. I will update all on product once it arrives.

Thank you gentso99. My product will speak for itself.

No problem. I am a snorter but my friend is a chef so I well let you know if he gives it the bell ringer approval.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: lstermadden on September 24, 2013, 03:51 pm
Just placed an order for 3.5G of NationChemz White.

Since he is fairly new, I will be elaborate and keep you all posted with:

- How well the communication is : I had a couple of questions and A packing request that was replyed to within the hour. I feel like this guy wants to get the product into my hands as much as I want it in my hands.

- The time it takes to get into transit : Ordered a little before 12 pm EST on Tuesday and my order went from 'processing' to 'in transit' at 2:45 EST. So given that he states that he ships on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I wasn't expecting it to get in transit until today. So far so good. See how long it will take for express to get to me.

- The time it takes to get into my hands,

- The weight of the product,

- The quality of the product.

I hope this review will give everyone a general feel for the vender, and help them decide whether or not to use them in the future.

Stay posted and you should be hearing from my in the next couple days.

9/24/13 - First Edit: Added Info On Communication

9/25/13 - Second Edit: Added Info on Time it took to go from 'Processing' to 'In Transit'.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: gentso99 on September 24, 2013, 05:32 pm
Order landed today here is what I can say so far.

Packaging is good-vac sealed and MBB
Shipping is indeed super fast and was shipped next day
The smell is there but it is a nice soft coke smell. It does not reek of kerosene(I personally dont care for coke that taste like rocket fuel). The taste is very bitter but not pure bitter, I don't know how to describe it other then I can taste the cocaine in this cocaine. Some times I taste coke and all I get is a bitter taste and a numb but I can actually taste the coke in this. It came in many small chunks and mostly powder(i don't know why people get worked up about having coke in rock form) it has a shine to it in powder form and is some what fluffy(which should be expected I am letting the bag sit out in the open to see how much water it draws in(good coke clumps up and sucks the water from the air).  It has a smell that I can't quite place and maybe that is because it is washed or a cut was used or it is just purer then I am used to. I will say this It is very oily in your fingers, very oily. I have tried kott's stuff and this is the most oily coke I have seen. When I rub my fingers together it turns to oil very quickly and with little to no residue left over.

I will have my chef friend do a cook tonight and I will give it a snort myself and then I will really be able to tell. All of the above is just kinda a at first glance impression. Hope this was helpful. 
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: tonykash on September 25, 2013, 04:42 am
I just ordered from him today. I'll update once it arrives. I actually just did the '50 spam' bullshit newbie roll just to post here. People that actually order from a vendor should really only be posting for the most part. I see this guy getting ripped to shreds by people that never ordered from him. I'll give the fairest review that I can.

Thanks

StackingPaper
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 25, 2013, 05:40 am
Thanks guys/gals. Looking forward to an honest review. Don't hold anything back; I won't take offense.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: gentso99 on September 25, 2013, 12:23 pm
Well here it is my thoughts on NC's coke.
First let me say I am a recreational user and I have had the pleasure of sampling some local white(east coast) and 3 coke vendors here on the road. My friend that is helping me test is a daily user and often cooks some when he feels the coke is "worth" cooking as he says.

Let me say this is the second best coke I have tried in my life and the best coke I have gotten off the road period.

It is smooth on your nose and my package of 7g's my enough to give the small room a nice faint coke smell. When cooked (spoon method) the product easily rocks up and goes straight oil very very easily. For me as a snorter it was smooth and pleasant with card style bumps being plenty to get me going. The drip, the taste, the numb and yes the buzz were......perfect. I don't have a ezstrip for purity but I do have one for cut and there isn't shit in here (not even ephedrine). You can tell there is little to nothing extra by feeling for grains of cut when you rub it between your finger's(I felt none). I also bleach tested it and I got nothing but slow falling, long white smokey trails my friend's.

If the vendor can keep this same product I had the pleasure of ordering I know he/she is going to become very very popular. So you guys can do what you want but I am all ready inquiring about my next order :)
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: lstermadden on September 25, 2013, 05:33 pm
Some dude just wrote a review on his page that is even getting me a little shaken up.  I don't believe a word he says, but it does rattle me a little bit since I got 3.5 coming my way.. Oh BTW the guy who reviewed it ordered a Gram.

He basically said the gear is terrible, said its street coke, said its 60-70% if that much (which isn't totally a bad thing.. given the price) But what got to me is that he said it tore his nose up, bleeding the morning after.. Also said its major cut is acetaminiphen (APAP / Tylenol).

For those who know about oxycontin, the rule is DONT SNORT PERC'S BECAUSE IT HAS APAP in it.

Im trying to do this on the down low.. My girl is going to be around and i would go to the bathroom to "crap" maybe once an hour. But if I come outta there with a bloody nose and sniffing hard... Then thats game over..

I trust that chemz will come through with good product, since that bad review is the only one i've seen with a dozen or so really high reviews.

My order is still in processing since yesterday, but his vender page does say he ships mon - wed - fri, so I am constantly checking my order page to see when it is in transit.

Put our minds at ease nationchemz, pleeasee!!

-lster
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 25, 2013, 07:12 pm
Well here it is my thoughts on NC's coke.
First let me say I am a recreational user and I have had the pleasure of sampling some local white(east coast) and 3 coke vendors here on the road. My friend that is helping me test is a daily user and often cooks some when he feels the coke is "worth" cooking as he says.

Let me say this is the second best coke I have tried in my life and the best coke I have gotten off the road period.

It is smooth on your nose and my package of 7g's my enough to give the small room a nice faint coke smell. When cooked (spoon method) the product easily rocks up and goes straight oil very very easily. For me as a snorter it was smooth and pleasant with card style bumps being plenty to get me going. The drip, the taste, the numb and yes the buzz were......perfect. I don't have a ezstrip for purity but I do have one for cut and there isn't shit in here (not even ephedrine). You can tell there is little to nothing extra by feeling for grains of cut when you rub it between your finger's(I felt none). I also bleach tested it and I got nothing but slow falling, long white smokey trails my friend's.

If the vendor can keep this same product I had the pleasure of ordering I know he/she is going to become very very popular. So you guys can do what you want but I am all ready inquiring about my next order :)

Thanks for the honest review. I really hope this is the beginning of a turnaround on this thread.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 25, 2013, 07:16 pm
Some dude just wrote a review on his page that is even getting me a little shaken up.  I don't believe a word he says, but it does rattle me a little bit since I got 3.5 coming my way.. Oh BTW the guy who reviewed it ordered a Gram.

He basically said the gear is terrible, said its street coke, said its 60-70% if that much (which isn't totally a bad thing.. given the price) But what got to me is that he said it tore his nose up, bleeding the morning after.. Also said its major cut is acetaminiphen (APAP / Tylenol).

For those who know about oxycontin, the rule is DONT SNORT PERC'S BECAUSE IT HAS APAP in it.

Im trying to do this on the down low.. My girl is going to be around and i would go to the bathroom to "crap" maybe once an hour. But if I come outta there with a bloody nose and sniffing hard... Then thats game over..

I trust that chemz will come through with good product, since that bad review is the only one i've seen with a dozen or so really high reviews.

My order is still in processing since yesterday, but his vender page does say he ships mon - wed - fri, so I am constantly checking my order page to see when it is in transit.

Put our minds at ease nationchemz, pleeasee!!

-lster

Every coke has some cut in it, but Tylenol??? If you really think that I would be putting something like that in or buying something with that in it then you are sadly misinformed.  This person who said this was an idiot and probably was my competition. Silk road didn't even show weight to the review; I'm still 5.0! I have 220 transactions and 2 critics; I think that is pretty good.

You package is in transit and you should have it soon; please leave a HONEST review.

Thanks,

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: lstermadden on September 25, 2013, 07:27 pm
Thanks for the heads up! I saw that and edited my post above to reflect processing time.

I will of course leave an honest review, I have nothing to gain here.

Your right about that idiot though. He wrote all that and left a 4 of 5, but like I said, 1 bad review to a ton of excellent reviews?

Id take it with a pinch OF A grain OF salt.

I am very excited to try this out, hopefully it will be in my hands tomorrow, Thursday.

Thanks for clearing up all my misinformation and putting my mind at ease. Keep it up, good sir!

Have a great rest of the day and thanks again!

-Lster
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: boomer1932 on September 26, 2013, 01:56 am
I'm sorry guys but I have to ask...  Since when does a sloppily handwritten label and absolutely NOTHING in the envelope except for a cocaine, vac sealed bag, and MBB qualify as great stealth?  I ordered 3.5g a few weeks ago, and it got here fine, quality seemed ok (only did two lines as it wasn't for me), but I don't get where you people are coming off saying "great stealth."  Are people just afraid to voice dissent because they're worried about a vendor refusing to work with them in the future?

I mean I could feel the little rock inside the package before I even opened the envelope.  Is it identifiable as drugs based on that alone?  No.  But there were so many red flags for me, especially when express mail is (supposedly) scrutinized more heavily.

I'm not trying to bad mouth nationchemz.  I brought up the issue with him, was told basically that nothing would be changing and so I've since taken my business elsewhere.  No hard feelings at all.  I just don't get you people who think this stealth is acceptable, let alone great.  Order from some vendors who take your freedom seriously and see what real stealth is all about.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 02:14 am
I'm sorry guys but I have to ask...  Since when does a sloppily handwritten label and absolutely NOTHING in the envelope except for a cocaine, vac sealed bag, and MBB qualify as great stealth?  I ordered 3.5g a few weeks ago, and it got here fine, quality seemed ok (only did two lines as it wasn't for me), but I don't get where you people are coming off saying "great stealth."  Are people just afraid to voice dissent because they're worried about a vendor refusing to work with them in the future?

I mean I could feel the little rock inside the package before I even opened the envelope.  Is it identifiable as drugs based on that alone?  No.  But there were so many red flags for me, especially when express mail is (supposedly) scrutinized more heavily.

I'm not trying to bad mouth nationchemz.  I brought up the issue with him, was told basically that nothing would be changing and so I've since taken my business elsewhere.  No hard feelings at all.  I just don't get you people who think this stealth is acceptable, let alone great.  Order from some vendors who take your freedom seriously and see what real stealth is all about.

Ya know, It's easier to talk shit than come up with a solution. I am trying to use a pre-paid card on USPS.com and having problems with the printed lables because they don't accept pre-paid vanillaone card; Do you have a solution for this??? What other stealth do you suggest????
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: boomer1932 on September 26, 2013, 02:29 am
First of all, I wasn't talking shit.  I'm talking real.  Your stealth was better than someone throwing a dime bag in an envelope and calling it good, but not by much.  You just threw it in a vac seal bag and MBB instead.

Second, it's not my job to come up with a solution, it's yours.  That's why you're the vendor, and I'm the consumer.  However, I can offer some suggestions based on what I've seen from others.  I won't post them on a (semi) public forum for everyone to see, but I can send you a PM.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 02:32 am
First of all, I wasn't talking shit.  I'm talking real.  Your stealth was better than someone throwing a dime bag in an envelope and calling it good, but not by much.  You just threw it in a vac seal bag and MBB instead.

Second, it's not my job to come up with a solution, it's yours.  That's why you're the vendor, and I'm the consumer.  However, I can offer some suggestions based on what I've seen from others.  I won't post them on a (semi) public forum for everyone to see, but I can send you a PM.

I am open to suggestions; go ahead am pm me.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: boomer1932 on September 26, 2013, 02:50 am
PM sent.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: Tessellated on September 26, 2013, 03:31 am
Ya know, It's easier to talk shit than come up with a solution. I am trying to use a pre-paid card on USPS.com and having problems with the printed lables because they don't accept pre-paid vanillaone card; Do you have a solution for this??? What other stealth do you suggest????

You can put labels anywhere a hand written address goes. For small amounts you can use stamps.

Dogs smell for coke, seal that shit up. Label it as something else. Make an effort to hide it.

Unless you are sending something very bulky or heavy then stamps are the way to go.

Don't use someone else's idea, make up something new. We all need to come up with our own methods.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 04:41 am
Ya know, It's easier to talk shit than come up with a solution. I am trying to use a pre-paid card on USPS.com and having problems with the printed lables because they don't accept pre-paid vanillaone card; Do you have a solution for this??? What other stealth do you suggest????

You can put labels anywhere a hand written address goes. For small amounts you can use stamps.

Dogs smell for coke, seal that shit up. Label it as something else. Make an effort to hide it.

Unless you are sending something very bulky or heavy then stamps are the way to go.

Don't use someone else's idea, make up something new. We all need to come up with our own methods.

I think your job is a little easier than mine considering what you sell. I'm working every day to come up with better ideas and that includes getting ideas from other members. The best way is to print a label from USPS.com and NOT use stamps. You might be able to get that off sending LSD through the mail in a birthday card, but I have a little more bulk here and people don't want their shit flattened out. I am working on using a pre-paid card on USPS.com but have not found the right card to use yet that will work. Also keep in mind that I ship express so stamps are out of the questions.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: Tessellated on September 26, 2013, 04:48 am
Regardless of how you pay postage you still need to put it in a sealed barrier bag and disguise it as something.

Shipping MDMA is no simpler than sending coke. Both smell, both are bulky powders except that MDMA is cheaper per volume so packages contain more.

Yes LSD is damn simple to ship, but I also ship MDMA. Internal stealth is important. If your package is opened by customs it should still make it through. Just be creative, think about what goes through the mail normally.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: gentso99 on September 26, 2013, 01:57 pm
Regardless of how you pay postage you still need to put it in a sealed barrier bag and disguise it as something.

Shipping MDMA is no simpler than sending coke. Both smell, both are bulky powders except that MDMA is cheaper per volume so packages contain more.

Yes LSD is damn simple to ship, but I also ship MDMA. Internal stealth is important. If your package is opened by customs it should still make it through. Just be creative, think about what goes through the mail normally.

Customs issues on a domestic package? We have vendors shipping 1 to 5 lbs of nuggs using the same methods with success rates at or near 100%. Sure there are a few what I would call small things he could change with his shipping but I don't understand why everyone is being so hostel with this guy?

First it was his product is junk, then its his shipping is crap.......I don't know what you guys saw or got but I got quality gear and shipping methods on par with every domestic seller I have encountered here on the road(other then printed labels). 
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: tonykash on September 26, 2013, 03:50 pm
This guys is great. His communication with me was really unbelievable for a vendor. The transaction was smooth and fast. Ordered Tuesday evening, received Thursday morning as expected. His stealth was great, with a Mylar MBB and a regular vac seal bag. I'm not a huge cola guy, but this stuff was awesome compared to the local crap. My friend tried some who is a big cola guy and he gave it the thumbs up. He's working on the 'printed' label situation and should have that sorted out soon. This is my go to guy from now on.... Now if I can just get past being so paranoid my door will get kicked in upon delivery, I'm a paranoid dude... lol. Thanks NC.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: boomer1932 on September 26, 2013, 05:38 pm
This guys is great. His communication with me was really unbelievable for a vendor. The transaction was smooth and fast. Ordered Tuesday evening, received Thursday morning as expected. His stealth was great, with a Mylar MBB and a regular vac seal bag. I'm not a huge cola guy, but this stuff was awesome compared to the local crap. My friend tried some who is a big cola guy and he gave it the thumbs up. He's working on the 'printed' label situation and should have that sorted out soon. This is my go to guy from now on.... Now if I can just get past being so paranoid my door will get kicked in upon delivery, I'm a paranoid dude... lol. Thanks NC.

Please, please let me know why you think the stealth was great.  I'm honestly trying to understand.  Was there anything inside the envelope other than cocaine inside of a dime bag, vac sealed, and inside of an MBB?  You realize that those are not the only requirements for stealth to qualify as "great," right?  I call it about 2/5.  It wasn't disguised as anything else, the labels were handwritten (by a sloppy hand), and the mailman knocked on the door at my drop to deliver it.  The signature was refused and the envelope was left anyway, but it was still a little more attention than I like with a shipment.

nationchemz has heard my suggestions for stealth and responded politely with, "those are some good ideas."  Whether or not they will be implemented remains to be seen.  But I know for sure they weren't implemented two days ago, meaning the packaging is the same as it was when everyone else ordered.  My issue is not so much with the vendor as it is with the people shouting, "GREAT STEALTH!"  Nothing about the stealth was great.  Raise your standards for what stealth really means and you won't have to be so paranoid.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 06:31 pm
I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: DrCol on September 26, 2013, 07:21 pm
I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 07:37 pm
I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc

Thanks Doc; I'll keep you in mind if I need advice. Feel free to message me as well. There is room for us all on the road.

Regards,

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: DrCol on September 26, 2013, 08:19 pm
I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc

Thanks Doc; I'll keep you in mind if I need advice. Feel free to message me as well. There is room for us all on the road.

Regards,

NCZ

I agree, and even more than that, we need each other's cover...hence many of us taking a firm position with you initially. It's for everyone's protection. When you started with the basic stealth and handwritten addresses you could have put people in awkward positions at best...and endangered liberty at worst...so we are very tuned to this kind of thing.

Also claims will be shot down unless logical and proved. I've learnt so so much here and respect this community so highly. It has much to offer the humble vendor willing to listen and adapt.

Hope you understand, we are all learning and keeping safe - that's the bottom line.

Keep well and keep improving

;)

Doc
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: boomer1932 on September 26, 2013, 09:18 pm
This guys is great. His communication with me was really unbelievable for a vendor. The transaction was smooth and fast. Ordered Tuesday evening, received Thursday morning as expected. His stealth was great, with a Mylar MBB and a regular vac seal bag. I'm not a huge cola guy, but this stuff was awesome compared to the local crap. My friend tried some who is a big cola guy and he gave it the thumbs up. He's working on the 'printed' label situation and should have that sorted out soon. This is my go to guy from now on.... Now if I can just get past being so paranoid my door will get kicked in upon delivery, I'm a paranoid dude... lol. Thanks NC.

Please, please let me know why you think the stealth was great.  I'm honestly trying to understand.  Was there anything inside the envelope other than cocaine inside of a dime bag, vac sealed, and inside of an MBB?  You realize that those are not the only requirements for stealth to qualify as "great," right?  I call it about 2/5.  It wasn't disguised as anything else, the labels were handwritten (by a sloppy hand), and the mailman knocked on the door at my drop to deliver it.  The signature was refused and the envelope was left anyway, but it was still a little more attention than I like with a shipment.

nationchemz has heard my suggestions for stealth and responded politely with, "those are some good ideas."  Whether or not they will be implemented remains to be seen.  But I know for sure they weren't implemented two days ago, meaning the packaging is the same as it was when everyone else ordered.  My issue is not so much with the vendor as it is with the people shouting, "GREAT STEALTH!"  Nothing about the stealth was great.  Raise your standards for what stealth really means and you won't have to be so paranoid.

Boomer, was it an international order? If not, then as long as his mbb was packaged properly and cleaned then that is A+++ stealth. Bottom line is 1st class mail is protected by unlawful search. Even if they opened the package up and looked at the mbb and their dogs didn't hit on it they would place it back into the package and send it on its way.

Now international shipments would need diversion stealth. But as long as it was a domestic order in the USA that MBB bag alone is good enough for stealth. As long as the vendor packages it properly. My 2 cents.

It was not an international order, but it was not shipped first class.  nationchemz only ships Express.  Smell-proofing is not the only important part of stealth IMO.  Nearly every domestic vendor I've used has disguised the product as a legitimate package.  This little 2x2 inch MBB thrown into a huge Express envelope with sloppily handwritten labels is not A+++ stealth in my book.  Then the mailman knocked on my door to deliver it.  The signature was waived so it didn't have to be signed for but he knocked to deliver it and that has never happened for as long as I've been ordering on the Road.

I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc

Thanks Doc; I'll keep you in mind if I need advice. Feel free to message me as well. There is room for us all on the road.

Regards,

NCZ

I agree, and even more than that, we need each other's cover...hence many of us taking a firm position with you initially. It's for everyone's protection. When you started with the basic stealth and handwritten addresses you could have put people in awkward positions at best...and endangered liberty at worst...so we are very tuned to this kind of thing.

Also claims will be shot down unless logical and proved. I've learnt so so much here and respect this community so highly. It has much to offer the humble vendor willing to listen and adapt.

Hope you understand, we are all learning and keeping safe - that's the bottom line.

Keep well and keep improving

;)

Doc

The basic stealth and handwritten addresses still have not changed.  Cocaine is placed in a dime bag, vacuum sealed, placed in an MBB, and placed directly in a very large Express envelope, with a handwritten address in a sloppy, virtually illegible hand.  To my knowledge, nothing about the stealth has been changed, even though nationchemz' profile stated he would be switching to printed labels September 16th.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 26, 2013, 09:44 pm
I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

NCZ +1 to you man for staying cool and not reacting to people 'attacking' you behind the keyboard. People need to realize that YOU ARE THE VENDOR and THEY CHOOSE TO BUY. You can do whatever the hell you want in regards to packaging, just make it clear that's how it's going to be on your vendor page (which I think I read you said you aren't going to be all crazy stealth). It's your business and no one should tell you how to run it especially customers jumping on you for you doing them a service and complaining but guess what???They Are HERE! Not in trouble or anything. So buyers, read the guy's vendor page, and order if you want and feel comfortable enough under the conditions instead of ordering, receiving the product without problems, and bitching about the stealth. Give NCZ some credit...he's a new 'cola' vendor and is still getting grounded. My 2 cents...best of luck to ya NCZ. I have been eyeing your listings..just need some btc!
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 11:05 pm
I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

NCZ +1 to you man for staying cool and not reacting to people 'attacking' you behind the keyboard. People need to realize that YOU ARE THE VENDOR and THEY CHOOSE TO BUY. You can do whatever the hell you want in regards to packaging, just make it clear that's how it's going to be on your vendor page (which I think I read you said you aren't going to be all crazy stealth). It's your business and no one should tell you how to run it especially customers jumping on you for you doing them a service and complaining but guess what???They Are HERE! Not in trouble or anything. So buyers, read the guy's vendor page, and order if you want and feel comfortable enough under the conditions instead of ordering, receiving the product without problems, and bitching about the stealth. Give NCZ some credit...he's a new 'cola' vendor and is still getting grounded. My 2 cents...best of luck to ya NCZ. I have been eyeing your listings..just need some btc!

:)
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 26, 2013, 11:17 pm
My favorite point of the day; hitting the "in transit" button. Then Pinky asks me "what are we going to do tomorrow Brain". You know the rest.

NCZ 
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 26, 2013, 11:25 pm
My favorite point of the day; hitting the "in transit" button. Then Pinky asks me "what are we going to do tomorrow Brain". You know the rest.

NCZ

Haha pinky & the brain....bringing it back ol' school status!
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: boomer1932 on September 27, 2013, 07:02 am
This guys is great. His communication with me was really unbelievable for a vendor. The transaction was smooth and fast. Ordered Tuesday evening, received Thursday morning as expected. His stealth was great, with a Mylar MBB and a regular vac seal bag. I'm not a huge cola guy, but this stuff was awesome compared to the local crap. My friend tried some who is a big cola guy and he gave it the thumbs up. He's working on the 'printed' label situation and should have that sorted out soon. This is my go to guy from now on.... Now if I can just get past being so paranoid my door will get kicked in upon delivery, I'm a paranoid dude... lol. Thanks NC.

Please, please let me know why you think the stealth was great.  I'm honestly trying to understand.  Was there anything inside the envelope other than cocaine inside of a dime bag, vac sealed, and inside of an MBB?  You realize that those are not the only requirements for stealth to qualify as "great," right?  I call it about 2/5.  It wasn't disguised as anything else, the labels were handwritten (by a sloppy hand), and the mailman knocked on the door at my drop to deliver it.  The signature was refused and the envelope was left anyway, but it was still a little more attention than I like with a shipment.

nationchemz has heard my suggestions for stealth and responded politely with, "those are some good ideas."  Whether or not they will be implemented remains to be seen.  But I know for sure they weren't implemented two days ago, meaning the packaging is the same as it was when everyone else ordered.  My issue is not so much with the vendor as it is with the people shouting, "GREAT STEALTH!"  Nothing about the stealth was great.  Raise your standards for what stealth really means and you won't have to be so paranoid.

Boomer, was it an international order? If not, then as long as his mbb was packaged properly and cleaned then that is A+++ stealth. Bottom line is 1st class mail is protected by unlawful search. Even if they opened the package up and looked at the mbb and their dogs didn't hit on it they would place it back into the package and send it on its way.

Now international shipments would need diversion stealth. But as long as it was a domestic order in the USA that MBB bag alone is good enough for stealth. As long as the vendor packages it properly. My 2 cents.

It was not an international order, but it was not shipped first class.  nationchemz only ships Express.  Smell-proofing is not the only important part of stealth IMO.  Nearly every domestic vendor I've used has disguised the product as a legitimate package.  This little 2x2 inch MBB thrown into a huge Express envelope with sloppily handwritten labels is not A+++ stealth in my book.  Then the mailman knocked on my door to deliver it.  The signature was waived so it didn't have to be signed for but he knocked to deliver it and that has never happened for as long as I've been ordering on the Road.

I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc

Thanks Doc; I'll keep you in mind if I need advice. Feel free to message me as well. There is room for us all on the road.

Regards,

NCZ

I agree, and even more than that, we need each other's cover...hence many of us taking a firm position with you initially. It's for everyone's protection. When you started with the basic stealth and handwritten addresses you could have put people in awkward positions at best...and endangered liberty at worst...so we are very tuned to this kind of thing.

Also claims will be shot down unless logical and proved. I've learnt so so much here and respect this community so highly. It has much to offer the humble vendor willing to listen and adapt.

Hope you understand, we are all learning and keeping safe - that's the bottom line.

Keep well and keep improving

;)

Doc

The basic stealth and handwritten addresses still have not changed.  Cocaine is placed in a dime bag, vacuum sealed, placed in an MBB, and placed directly in a very large Express envelope, with a handwritten address in a sloppy, virtually illegible hand.  To my knowledge, nothing about the stealth has been changed, even though nationchemz' profile stated he would be switching to printed labels September 16th.

Did you know that express is 1st class... The address being handwritten I cannot agree with either, but, if they were being transparent about that since the beginning you knew what you were getting.

Express is 1st class?  Explain this to me then.

[clearnet warning]https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm

Maybe you can understand my confusion when you said 1st class in reference to Express, even though USPS actually has something called "First Class" that is a separate service from their "Priority Mail Express" service.

Also, I read every word of the profile page.  Nowhere did it say, "Labels will be handwritten," and, at the time I ordered, neither did it say anything about making a future change to printed labels.

I'm not upset with nationchemz.  What bothers me is the people saying "great stealth" when I feel there are numerous flaws.  I'm not saying they're glaring issues, obviously packages are arriving without issue.  "Adequate stealth" is acceptable.  But IMO handwritten labels and no attempt at disguising the contents of the package is not great stealth.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 27, 2013, 07:38 am
This guys is great. His communication with me was really unbelievable for a vendor. The transaction was smooth and fast. Ordered Tuesday evening, received Thursday morning as expected. His stealth was great, with a Mylar MBB and a regular vac seal bag. I'm not a huge cola guy, but this stuff was awesome compared to the local crap. My friend tried some who is a big cola guy and he gave it the thumbs up. He's working on the 'printed' label situation and should have that sorted out soon. This is my go to guy from now on.... Now if I can just get past being so paranoid my door will get kicked in upon delivery, I'm a paranoid dude... lol. Thanks NC.

Please, please let me know why you think the stealth was great.  I'm honestly trying to understand.  Was there anything inside the envelope other than cocaine inside of a dime bag, vac sealed, and inside of an MBB?  You realize that those are not the only requirements for stealth to qualify as "great," right?  I call it about 2/5.  It wasn't disguised as anything else, the labels were handwritten (by a sloppy hand), and the mailman knocked on the door at my drop to deliver it.  The signature was refused and the envelope was left anyway, but it was still a little more attention than I like with a shipment.

nationchemz has heard my suggestions for stealth and responded politely with, "those are some good ideas."  Whether or not they will be implemented remains to be seen.  But I know for sure they weren't implemented two days ago, meaning the packaging is the same as it was when everyone else ordered.  My issue is not so much with the vendor as it is with the people shouting, "GREAT STEALTH!"  Nothing about the stealth was great.  Raise your standards for what stealth really means and you won't have to be so paranoid.

Boomer, was it an international order? If not, then as long as his mbb was packaged properly and cleaned then that is A+++ stealth. Bottom line is 1st class mail is protected by unlawful search. Even if they opened the package up and looked at the mbb and their dogs didn't hit on it they would place it back into the package and send it on its way.

Now international shipments would need diversion stealth. But as long as it was a domestic order in the USA that MBB bag alone is good enough for stealth. As long as the vendor packages it properly. My 2 cents.

It was not an international order, but it was not shipped first class.  nationchemz only ships Express.  Smell-proofing is not the only important part of stealth IMO.  Nearly every domestic vendor I've used has disguised the product as a legitimate package.  This little 2x2 inch MBB thrown into a huge Express envelope with sloppily handwritten labels is not A+++ stealth in my book.  Then the mailman knocked on my door to deliver it.  The signature was waived so it didn't have to be signed for but he knocked to deliver it and that has never happened for as long as I've been ordering on the Road.

I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc

Thanks Doc; I'll keep you in mind if I need advice. Feel free to message me as well. There is room for us all on the road.

Regards,

NCZ

I agree, and even more than that, we need each other's cover...hence many of us taking a firm position with you initially. It's for everyone's protection. When you started with the basic stealth and handwritten addresses you could have put people in awkward positions at best...and endangered liberty at worst...so we are very tuned to this kind of thing.

Also claims will be shot down unless logical and proved. I've learnt so so much here and respect this community so highly. It has much to offer the humble vendor willing to listen and adapt.

Hope you understand, we are all learning and keeping safe - that's the bottom line.

Keep well and keep improving

;)

Doc

The basic stealth and handwritten addresses still have not changed.  Cocaine is placed in a dime bag, vacuum sealed, placed in an MBB, and placed directly in a very large Express envelope, with a handwritten address in a sloppy, virtually illegible hand.  To my knowledge, nothing about the stealth has been changed, even though nationchemz' profile stated he would be switching to printed labels September 16th.

Did you know that express is 1st class... The address being handwritten I cannot agree with either, but, if they were being transparent about that since the beginning you knew what you were getting.

Express is 1st class?  Explain this to me then.

[clearnet warning]https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm

Maybe you can understand my confusion when you said 1st class in reference to Express, even though USPS actually has something called "First Class" that is a separate service from their "Priority Mail Express" service.

Also, I read every word of the profile page.  Nowhere did it say, "Labels will be handwritten," and, at the time I ordered, neither did it say anything about making a future change to printed labels.

I'm not upset with nationchemz.  What bothers me is the people saying "great stealth" when I feel there are numerous flaws.  I'm not saying they're glaring issues, obviously packages are arriving without issue.  "Adequate stealth" is acceptable.  But IMO handwritten labels and no attempt at disguising the contents of the package is not great stealth.

I have to agree with Bommer. First-Class Mail refers to all personal correspondence (bills, statements, letters, small packages) and are all subject to warranted search as all domestic mail is. Any mailable items may be sent as First-Class Mail, but must weigh 13 oz or less. Furthermore, First-Class Mail is charged by the weight and dimensions of the package. I don't know the exact formula for cost basis, but I know that's how it works. Pieces over 13 oz can be sent as Priority Mail or Priority Mail Express. Priority and Express mail are in a different category simply due to the pricing structure.

BTW, I updated my profile to let people know that I am on top of the printed labels.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: DrCol on September 27, 2013, 02:51 pm
This guys is great. His communication with me was really unbelievable for a vendor. The transaction was smooth and fast. Ordered Tuesday evening, received Thursday morning as expected. His stealth was great, with a Mylar MBB and a regular vac seal bag. I'm not a huge cola guy, but this stuff was awesome compared to the local crap. My friend tried some who is a big cola guy and he gave it the thumbs up. He's working on the 'printed' label situation and should have that sorted out soon. This is my go to guy from now on.... Now if I can just get past being so paranoid my door will get kicked in upon delivery, I'm a paranoid dude... lol. Thanks NC.

Please, please let me know why you think the stealth was great.  I'm honestly trying to understand.  Was there anything inside the envelope other than cocaine inside of a dime bag, vac sealed, and inside of an MBB?  You realize that those are not the only requirements for stealth to qualify as "great," right?  I call it about 2/5.  It wasn't disguised as anything else, the labels were handwritten (by a sloppy hand), and the mailman knocked on the door at my drop to deliver it.  The signature was refused and the envelope was left anyway, but it was still a little more attention than I like with a shipment.

nationchemz has heard my suggestions for stealth and responded politely with, "those are some good ideas."  Whether or not they will be implemented remains to be seen.  But I know for sure they weren't implemented two days ago, meaning the packaging is the same as it was when everyone else ordered.  My issue is not so much with the vendor as it is with the people shouting, "GREAT STEALTH!"  Nothing about the stealth was great.  Raise your standards for what stealth really means and you won't have to be so paranoid.

Boomer, was it an international order? If not, then as long as his mbb was packaged properly and cleaned then that is A+++ stealth. Bottom line is 1st class mail is protected by unlawful search. Even if they opened the package up and looked at the mbb and their dogs didn't hit on it they would place it back into the package and send it on its way.

Now international shipments would need diversion stealth. But as long as it was a domestic order in the USA that MBB bag alone is good enough for stealth. As long as the vendor packages it properly. My 2 cents.

It was not an international order, but it was not shipped first class.  nationchemz only ships Express.  Smell-proofing is not the only important part of stealth IMO.  Nearly every domestic vendor I've used has disguised the product as a legitimate package.  This little 2x2 inch MBB thrown into a huge Express envelope with sloppily handwritten labels is not A+++ stealth in my book.  Then the mailman knocked on my door to deliver it.  The signature was waived so it didn't have to be signed for but he knocked to deliver it and that has never happened for as long as I've been ordering on the Road.

I am so happy this thread is turning into something more productive rather than the shit show that is was. Captainsnowflakes I am waiting for your reply to my PM so check your inbox.

I don't mind criticism, but keep in constructive. If I feel like your coming at my throat then the natural reaction for me is to come right back at yours. I understand everyone has opinions, but think carefully before you type as things may come across the wrong way. As long as it is an intelligent post and there is logic behind the words you write; you will have no problems from me.

Thanks,

NCZ

I think you've learnt well here so far...the community hates bollocks and appreciated humility and good business...we all start out and the test is how someone responds.

There are vendors here (myself included) who will do all they can to help...others not so much!

So good luck in the journey still...you'll be fine on this path

Cheers
Doc

Thanks Doc; I'll keep you in mind if I need advice. Feel free to message me as well. There is room for us all on the road.

Regards,

NCZ

I agree, and even more than that, we need each other's cover...hence many of us taking a firm position with you initially. It's for everyone's protection. When you started with the basic stealth and handwritten addresses you could have put people in awkward positions at best...and endangered liberty at worst...so we are very tuned to this kind of thing.

Also claims will be shot down unless logical and proved. I've learnt so so much here and respect this community so highly. It has much to offer the humble vendor willing to listen and adapt.

Hope you understand, we are all learning and keeping safe - that's the bottom line.

Keep well and keep improving

;)

Doc

The basic stealth and handwritten addresses still have not changed.  Cocaine is placed in a dime bag, vacuum sealed, placed in an MBB, and placed directly in a very large Express envelope, with a handwritten address in a sloppy, virtually illegible hand.  To my knowledge, nothing about the stealth has been changed, even though nationchemz' profile stated he would be switching to printed labels September 16th.

Did you know that express is 1st class... The address being handwritten I cannot agree with either, but, if they were being transparent about that since the beginning you knew what you were getting.

Express is 1st class?  Explain this to me then.

[clearnet warning]https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm

Maybe you can understand my confusion when you said 1st class in reference to Express, even though USPS actually has something called "First Class" that is a separate service from their "Priority Mail Express" service.

Also, I read every word of the profile page.  Nowhere did it say, "Labels will be handwritten," and, at the time I ordered, neither did it say anything about making a future change to printed labels.

I'm not upset with nationchemz.  What bothers me is the people saying "great stealth" when I feel there are numerous flaws.  I'm not saying they're glaring issues, obviously packages are arriving without issue.  "Adequate stealth" is acceptable.  But IMO handwritten labels and no attempt at disguising the contents of the package is not great stealth.

1st class in any mail from snail mail to priority to express. Nothing other than that though. And I understand about the handwritten address, but again, the package is protected from unlawful search and seizure. So if he packages that MBB properly then there is nothing to worry about. As long as a dog doesn't hit on it then you received the stealth you needed. Can you see through the MBB?!? Then the contents of the package were hidden. That is 5/5 stealth. The address thing is an issue, but, he is resolving that.

The issue with the writing is that if it is difficult to read or mistaken (easy to do with writing) then it's a liability...

Also it's not usual now for pro mail to be handwritten...

Also, for my money, the HUGE issue...is the accountability if intercepted and used in the future by LE. If you write they can compare your hand against it and that's pretty damning evidence to their case...

Worth really thinking things through on these things, because it's not a risk you want to take for the sake of a printer and a little effort.

My two cents guys that's all

Doc
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 27, 2013, 06:51 pm
The bottom line is that I am fixing the labeling issue. We all agree that it is a problem.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 27, 2013, 07:27 pm
The bottom line is that I am fixing the labeling issue. We all agree that it is a problem.

NCZ

Nationchemz-I hope you are doing this for your sake and protection; not bc some people are hounding you about it...I too believe that it reduces the risk but remember...You're the vendor!!! You are in control of how your shit runs, and I'm sure people who have claimed "great stealth" had it packaged from one of santa's little helpers who is top of his class! lol
Anyway dawg, shoot me a PM if you would like me to help walk you through setting up "typed labels" and an easy way to print them (along w/ which dimensions to pick up as far as sticky labels, etc), I'd gladly help ya.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: lstermadden on September 27, 2013, 08:22 pm
Boomer really needs to stop. I just received my package yesterday and have no complains.

If your ordering express then you have to understand that YOU need to receive it. What are you going to tell ur mom/girl?? You had to pay an extra 20 dollars to get that iPhone case overnighted?! Come on...

I think boomers posts should be removed, because he is pretty much giving a step by step of a venders stealth techniques. And last time I checked, that was really not cool to do. Your not supposed to expose a venders mailing techniques.

You may have an issue, but I still want to receive my goods without the law knowing exactly how a vender ships...

So boomer, this guy is legit, i still have to write a review, but i won't have time to until im home alone on sunday.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 27, 2013, 08:35 pm
Boomer really needs to stop. I just received my package yesterday and have no complains.

If your ordering express then you have to understand that YOU need to receive it. What are you going to tell ur mom/girl?? You had to pay an extra 20 dollars to get that iPhone case overnighted?! Come on...

I think boomers posts should be removed, because he is pretty much giving a step by step of a venders stealth techniques. And last time I checked, that was really not cool to do. Your not supposed to expose a venders mailing techniques.

You may have an issue, but I still want to receive my goods without the law knowing exactly how a vender ships...

So boomer, this guy is legit, i still have to write a review, but i won't have time to until im home alone on sunday.

^^^Speaks the truth...not cool unveiling vendor techniques. +1 to you lstermadden!
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 27, 2013, 08:37 pm
The bottom line is that I am fixing the labeling issue. We all agree that it is a problem.

NCZ

Nationchemz-I hope you are doing this for your sake and protection; not bc some people are hounding you about it...I too believe that it reduces the risk but remember...You're the vendor!!! You are in control of how your shit runs, and I'm sure people who have claimed "great stealth" had it packaged from one of santa's little helpers who is top of his class! lol
Anyway dawg, shoot me a PM if you would like me to help walk you through setting up "typed labels" and an easy way to print them (along w/ which dimensions to pick up as far as sticky labels, etc), I'd gladly help ya.

Thanks for the offer; I have had all the supplies for a minute, it was just a credit card issue that I was having issues with. I actually agree that printed labels are a must; I'm not just conforming; you should know that it is not my style from my previous posts. Anyway, I got to get this thing situated before my crew take me out for my birthday this Monday and I don't think it will be a problem as I now have 2 methods to use. Safety is my #1 concern as LE can fuck up every aspect of the game if they become involved. Trust me, I'm not afraid to do a little more work to ensure everyone's safety.

Thanks,

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 27, 2013, 08:55 pm
Boomer really needs to stop. I just received my package yesterday and have no complains.

If your ordering express then you have to understand that YOU need to receive it. What are you going to tell ur mom/girl?? You had to pay an extra 20 dollars to get that iPhone case overnighted?! Come on...

I think boomers posts should be removed, because he is pretty much giving a step by step of a venders stealth techniques. And last time I checked, that was really not cool to do. Your not supposed to expose a venders mailing techniques.

You may have an issue, but I still want to receive my goods without the law knowing exactly how a vender ships...

So boomer, this guy is legit, i still have to write a review, but i won't have time to until im home alone on sunday.

Boomer actually PM me and gave me some specifics which I was appreciative. Lets just stop arguing about the stealth because we are all in agreement and I AM THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. I am in talks with another top C vendor who is helping me out. Hopefully by the end of the weekend I will have printed labels. As far as that extra super ninja stealth that boomer suggested, I will do that for only large orders. If I'm shipping 1g-14g then it will be regular stealth. The best stealth is the express mail because it is guaranteed on the next day or the day after. When that gets fucked up then you know shit went bad and you just refuse or leave it on your porch for a few days until you know that it is safe. Remember, these LE fucks need a warrant to go into a package and before that they need probable cause to get the warrant.  All that takes time and by the time they get it the express time-frame will have run out. People want me to ship priority; fuck that, I do express for your protection, plus you get the added bonus of getting your gear quicker. When I don't see people finalizing when they should I do a tracking inquiry and see what is going on. If there is anything unusual  then I will message you and let you know my thoughts. Also during a CD the chain of custody from post office to post office will be fucked up. Buyers don't realize I do all this and think I am just  breaking off Coke and Molly and throwing it in a package hoping it gets there; negative. You people are helping put food on me and my teams table so why shouldn't I protect you all as much as I can. If I didn't I would just be fucking myself and my team.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 27, 2013, 09:08 pm
Nice man, I'm glad that everything is cool and you got it figured out! Now it's your B-Day weekend so live that shit up brotha! Just make sure and leave some of the fuego for me to get an order in ;) Keep up the good work my friend!
Bio
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 27, 2013, 09:37 pm
Nice man, I'm glad that everything is cool and you got it figured out! Now it's your B-Day weekend so live that shit up brotha! Just make sure and leave some of the fuego for me to get an order in ;) Keep up the good work my friend!
Bio

I don't do coke nor does my crew, but the strippers and escorts probably will. I'm more of a molly guy and I only do that once in a blue moon. I think there is a blue moon this weekend; I have to check.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 27, 2013, 10:12 pm
Nice man, I'm glad that everything is cool and you got it figured out! Now it's your B-Day weekend so live that shit up brotha! Just make sure and leave some of the fuego for me to get an order in ;) Keep up the good work my friend!
Bio

I don't do coke nor does my crew, but the strippers and escorts probably will. I'm more of a molly guy and I only do that once in a blue moon. I think there is a blue moon this weekend; I have to check.

You don't even test it? I think it's great when a vendor doesn't DO their product (especially frequently bc that's just stupid for business) but testing it yourself or at least a trustworthy few people is smart (talking hypothetically-not directed to what you do or do not do). Anyway, woooo that girl Molly is some crazy fun when you got a crew witchu and some hot ass girls. Especially when you do it once in a blue moon...But naaa there's no blue moon coming up until 2015 brotha. There was one in August but there's a New Moon coming up on October 1st I believe. Regardless of the damn moon...have a good one !
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 27, 2013, 10:47 pm
Nice man, I'm glad that everything is cool and you got it figured out! Now it's your B-Day weekend so live that shit up brotha! Just make sure and leave some of the fuego for me to get an order in ;) Keep up the good work my friend!
Bio

I don't do coke nor does my crew, but the strippers and escorts probably will. I'm more of a molly guy and I only do that once in a blue moon. I think there is a blue moon this weekend; I have to check.

You don't even test it? I think it's great when a vendor doesn't DO their product (especially frequently bc that's just stupid for business) but testing it yourself or at least a trustworthy few people is smart (talking hypothetically-not directed to what you do or do not do). Anyway, woooo that girl Molly is some crazy fun when you got a crew witchu and some hot ass girls. Especially when you do it once in a blue moon...But naaa there's no blue moon coming up until 2015 brotha. There was one in August but there's a New Moon coming up on October 1st I believe. Regardless of the damn moon...have a good one !

I test it with a heat test and give it to a head I know so he can cook it up. All came back lovely so I know I got a ringer.
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 28, 2013, 08:17 pm
Coke sale just went live!
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: tonykash on September 30, 2013, 05:46 pm
Sorry for late reply, I was on vacation. Anyways, I gave him great stealth because it was great. Not only MBB sealed, but my package was stuffed into something to disguise it. I knew about the handwritten label before hand as I was trying to help him get them printed. It was my choice to order while he was still working on printed labels. The guy was nice and communicated with me and answered all my questions within an hour of asking. So yes guys, I stick to my original review. Package was stealth, he was fast and a nice guy. Product was good and it came here really fast. From what I understand he has sorted out the handwritten labels, feel free to give him a try. Thanks again NC
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: nationchemz on September 30, 2013, 06:13 pm
Sorry for late reply, I was on vacation. Anyways, I gave him great stealth because it was great. Not only MBB sealed, but my package was stuffed into something to disguise it. I knew about the handwritten label before hand as I was trying to help him get them printed. It was my choice to order while he was still working on printed labels. The guy was nice and communicated with me and answered all my questions within an hour of asking. So yes guys, I stick to my original review. Package was stealth, he was fast and a nice guy. Product was good and it came here really fast. From what I understand he has sorted out the handwritten labels, feel free to give him a try. Thanks again NC

I'm still working on the USPS printed labels. I have tried everything. Vanilla Visa gift card, vanilla one, amex gift card. Nothing works. I will give a free btc to anyone who can successfully show me how to print these damn labels. And to all of you who say I don't give a shit about my customers then you know nothing because it is my birthday and I am sitting in my hotel in Vegas hung over trying to fix this issue.

NCZ
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: biologicalmadman on September 30, 2013, 08:26 pm
Sorry for late reply, I was on vacation. Anyways, I gave him great stealth because it was great. Not only MBB sealed, but my package was stuffed into something to disguise it. I knew about the handwritten label before hand as I was trying to help him get them printed. It was my choice to order while he was still working on printed labels. The guy was nice and communicated with me and answered all my questions within an hour of asking. So yes guys, I stick to my original review. Package was stealth, he was fast and a nice guy. Product was good and it came here really fast. From what I understand he has sorted out the handwritten labels, feel free to give him a try. Thanks again NC

I'm still working on the USPS printed labels. I have tried everything. Vanilla Visa gift card, vanilla one, amex gift card. Nothing works. I will give a free btc to anyone who can successfully show me how to print these damn labels. And to all of you who say I don't give a shit about my customers then you know nothing because it is my birthday and I am sitting in my hotel in Vegas hung over trying to fix this issue.

NCZ

NCZ! I told you that I would walk you through and show you how to print the labels!! PM me...
Title: Re: COLUMBIAN COKE IN THE RAW; BEST PRICES ON THE ROAD FOR THE QUALITY!
Post by: flwrchlds9 on October 06, 2013, 11:44 pm
You should post your 4096 bit PGP key in this thread.