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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: DutchTradeCrew on February 20, 2013, 10:00 pm
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Hi Guys,
-DutchTrade is your specialist in MDMA!
Looking at the messages on the forum I guess it would be an honor if you guys compare us to Dutchaanbod, but please know that we're not them.
DutchTrade stands for:
- Fast delivery; orders will be sent within 24 hours after placing your order
- For orders >50 gram, we work with track&trace, for orders less than 50g we can provide track&trace on request and for an additional payment of US$5,00
- Good quality and prices
- Fast communication; messages will be answered within 24 hours
- Professional, secure and discrete packaging; all orders are vacuumed and packed in moisture barrier bags
- You don't need to finalize early!
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR SPECIAL WELCOME OFFER:
-The first 100 orders (>5 gram) will get 10% extra.
-We offer free samples for customers in Germany but do request a (positive) review in return.
If you have any questions about our product, work method or else, please read our faq on our SR profile or send us a message
Best regards
DutchTrade crew
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We just added our SR weblink!
Regards
The DutchTrade Crew
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Please consider a 28.3g listing for those in the US who use illogical measuring units. Thanks!
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Also, the 'track&trace on request and for an additional payment of US$5,00' doesn't appear to be listed in the shipping options for your items.
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Good Luck Mate
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
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Hi guys,
We have now added the optional track&trace on our listing.
Eventough our transactions are still 0, we have received and shipped several orders already but as you all know it takes quite some time to be delivered.
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I placed an order about a week ago, I'll be sure to update and review when it arrives.
Also DutchTrade I sent you a message about tracking #
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received my package.
weight 1.1gm
ordered 5 gm.. this is consistent with the message the vendor sent me about a second package being sent due to a scale problem.
the crystals are brown, feel wet and clump up together.. no powder, just small rocks & crystals.
i will not be finalizing the order till i get the second package, but so far, i would give 5/5 for communication, ?/5 for product ( i do not do molly no more ), 4/5 on "business management". it is a little unnerving that the first set of orders had weight issues...
Stealth - decent.. Same as one of the big vendors that has been missing for a month... not to start any rumors or speculations.. just letting you experienced buyers know what to expect in the mail....
i do not feel like taking pictures,feeling lazy, but if anyone wants to see the product, please reply and i will post a link for you..
peace and love...
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ME want some!
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any statements on quality of product?
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any statements on quality of product?
I have stopped rolling a few months ago. Molly has lost its magic, i do not think it is worth frying braincells and facing mandy blues fro a sub-par experience. hence cannot comment on quality as such
visually, it is all rocks, small ones. Brown in colour (somewhat like in the product listing, but obviously broken down into smaller pieces). smells of sassy, very faintly. tastes bitter just like any other mdma(i tasted a tiny crystal, the size of a salt grain)
I think its best to take a picture for the community.. give me a little time..
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same deal here as daydreamer ... got package - but a mere 7.8 grams underweight. I'll update when I receive the 2nd package as Dutch promised - but its crushed rocks slightly brown in color. Ill know the quality by this weekend :)
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DutchTrade is a new vendor but has proven to me to be a great one!
every message i sent he has replied within 24 hours (most of the time within 5 or 6 hours honestly)
The shipping time is excelent and descreate.
The product is nice, definatly quality stuff.
I have not a single complaint i could make against this vendor so far.
If you are sketchy because of the number of transactions don't be!
He might have a new account but he knows what he is doing and is not a compleatly new vendor.
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any statements on quality of product?
I have stopped rolling a few months ago. Molly has lost its magic, i do not think it is worth frying braincells and facing mandy blues fro a sub-par experience. hence cannot comment on quality as such
visually, it is all rocks, small ones. Brown in colour (somewhat like in the product listing, but obviously broken down into smaller pieces). smells of sassy, very faintly. tastes bitter just like any other mdma(i tasted a tiny crystal, the size of a salt grain)
I think its best to take a picture for the community.. give me a little time..
try piracetam... has given back the magic to many many people I know... and hasn't failed one yet ;)
keeping an eye on this thread.. need to get another 100g sooner than later.
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Can someone comment if the product is wet/dry? I'm curious if it's similar to what I have received from Interways (dark brown and wet chunks/crystals).
I trying to decide on who to order a larger order from: DutchTrade or Interways. A quality report would be appreciated.
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Can someone comment if the product is wet/dry? I'm curious if it's similar to what I have received from Interways (dark brown and wet chunks/crystals).
I also am very curious to hear of the quality of this stuff. First looked at interways but unfortunately his product has unfavorable reviews; am hoping Dutch doesn't have the same stuff!
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Hi guys,
@ Daydreamer and Martian313: The second package was sent approximately 5-7 days after the first package was sent. So you should receive the second package (with the right amount) by the end of this week or beginning of next week (considering that packages won't be processed by the post order company in weekends)
Justashoutaway; thanks for the positive review! We appreciate it and are looking forward to do further business with you!
Remember guys; our welcoming offer is still available, so order now and take advantage of the 10% extra!
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Will someone that purchased please take one for the team and let us know the quality on this prodct? dosages and everytheing... i know there is some molly going around that come comes back good for test results but is underdosed. I learned this the hard way when i made a purchase of some and only rolled when I excieted over .3
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Well...In for 100 grams with DutchTrade. I have marquis and simons reagent tests, and I will update you guys when it is in transit and upon arrival. If everything goes as expected, I think we will have our new #1 Molly vendor on the Road..I just hope DT is able to keep up with it when we reach that point! I may consider placing another order dependant on the timeliness of my resolution with HollyMolly.
@DutchTrade: Thanks for stepping up, brother! I hope we have a long and healthy partnership :)
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Well...In for 100 grams with DutchTrade. I have marquis and simons reagent tests, and I will update you guys when it is in transit and upon arrival. If everything goes as expected, I think we will have our new #1 Molly vendor on the Road..I just hope DT is able to keep up with it when we reach that point! I may consider placing another order dependant on the timeliness of my resolution with HollyMolly.
@DutchTrade: Thanks for stepping up, brother! I hope we have a long and healthy partnership :)
Where are you located?
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I think we will have our new #1 Molly vendor on the Road..
I agree with you here. I have some real confidence in this guy. However I'm skiddish to order until some reviews of the product come in. Especially considering that shit that went down with Interways; I don't want to be stuck with 100g of bullshit :(
Please! Let's get some reviews and hi res photos up here pronto!
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Well...In for 100 grams with DutchTrade. I have marquis and simons reagent tests, and I will update you guys when it is in transit and upon arrival. If everything goes as expected, I think we will have our new #1 Molly vendor on the Road..I just hope DT is able to keep up with it when we reach that point! I may consider placing another order dependant on the timeliness of my resolution with HollyMolly.
@DutchTrade: Thanks for stepping up, brother! I hope we have a long and healthy partnership :)
Where are you located?
USA.
@ixor: Better to get on the train early than to get burned when it leaves the station :P
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keep us updated :)
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Been lurking this forum for a while now. Was about to buy from Interways last week until I heard about the product. Such a shame. Really excited about those prices. But now that DutchTrade is here things have gotten easier.
Just made an order with him for 10 grams. We'll see how it goes, I'll update when moved to In Transit and I'll test for quality.
Hope DT is as good as its sounding to be.
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I have been llurking here as well. Just waiting on tests and trip reports to come back befoer I bit the bullet, my mind is saying order it fuck it but my instinct is saying wait, iv been burned way too many times jumping the gun on new molly vendors. not saying dutch isnt legit or anything but I want to be safe with my money. hoping for the best here!
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I'm interested in this vendor as well. If good reviews start piling in I'll probably jump on the band-wagon.
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I am going to do everyone a huge favor. I am going to buy 1 Gram and do a full test a Trip report. Photos aswell. Your welcome. Update upon arrival to USA
Sincerely Your Hero Misty.
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I am going to do everyone a huge favor. I am going to buy 1 Gram and do a full test a Trip report. Photos aswell. Your welcome. Update upon arrival to USA
Sincerely Your Hero Misty.
ahh very thoughtful of you. I am hoping someone that already recieved from him does this though as I am not trying to wait 2 weeks to get this info. It is very kind of you to do that though missy! I am hoping his product is as good as it looks in the pictures. As many of you know there is alot of poor molly going around and by poor i mean getting people dizzy, sick, and requring large dosages to feel anything what so ever.
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Can someone comment if the product is wet/dry? I'm curious if it's similar to what I have received from Interways (dark brown and wet chunks/crystals).
I trying to decide on who to order a larger order from: DutchTrade or Interways. A quality report would be appreciated.
the crystals are brown, feel wet and clump up together.. no powder, just small rocks & crystals.
i will not be finalizing the order till i get the second package, but so far, i would give 5/5 for communication, ?/5 for product ( i do not do molly no more ), 4/5 on "business management". it is a little unnerving that the first set of orders had weight issues.
^^ This is what someone said on the 1st page upon recieving the product... only thing that makes me suspicious that It is the same batch interways has that everyone seems to be having issues with.
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Another update here...
My order has been marked shipped and DutchTrade asked for my public key to issue me the tracking number, it's the middle of the night over there so I'm sure he'll reply promptly during normal hours.
I resolved my resolution with HollyMolly and got a refund on my order (Ouch, ~1% refund rate --> 34% refund rate), and decided to bet everything on DT (I'm in a serious time crunch), so I have another order for 200 grams pending.
So far, very happy! Already better than some other vendors ::) Bit of a nervous wreck floating $5,000 though haha my heart must hate me
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@ lucky punk : that would be me....
what issues are people having with Interways product? quality? as in quality of the roll?
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Update on my order. Marked as In Transit and got a message asking for my public pgp code so he can send me the tracking code. Haven't gotten the code yet but I'm sure I will by tomorrow. Very excited guys. :)
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@ lucky punk : that would be me....
what issues are people having with Interways product? quality? as in quality of the roll?
Take a look at his review forums, multiple people are stating his batch of molly is dirty they needed to exceed very high doses in order to feel any type of roll at all. Some said there was little euphoria and that clean molly feeling just wasn't there. I read someone said that there friend ate over 700mg's and barely felt as if he was rolling at all. They also described the prodct as damp with chunks of black/brown sandy like balls .
Here is interways review page you can check out peoples reviews on the batch he currently has : http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=120068.msg816424#msg816424
and here is a picture of what someone posted of the batch: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8oj.jpg
and lastly a direct quote from someone on that review page says --: as a side note to the quality, i gave a 1g sample to a friend, who does drugs almost every weekend (Keta, Coke and MDMA),
He took 0,7g (Yes 700mg) all at once, and he didn’t really feel any strong effects from it.
So i really hope, that interways, find a way to make this up to all the disappointing customers.
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Yes, the product does look exactly the same as the picture. The smaller bits that are gathered at the bottom of the baggie.
Waiting on a reship (due to weighing scale issues ).
I guess i will have to do an acetone wash on this batch.... Well, there's a first time for everything....
thanks for the links btw....
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Yes, the product does look exactly the same as the picture. The smaller bits that are gathered at the bottom of the baggie.
Waiting on a reship (due to weighing scale issues ).
I guess i will have to do an acetone wash on this batch.... Well, there's a first time for everything....
thanks for the links btw....
From my experience a lot of molly I've received (From AH, Dutchaabod, Pf, etc) has looked like that and is always fire. In that picture, Interways product looks fire. This photo is probably a more worrisome picture of Interways batch: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8og.jpg
although DayDreamer in truth if you had a high quality camera (or any camera at all) to take a picture of it, or a molly-poppin' friend to test it, that'd be a lot better than rushing to an acetone test..Seems a bit extreme with no foundation for necessitating such a process.
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Received the second package from DutchTrade. Came in at 4.9gm, so it seems the scale might still have an issue.. ;)
The product loooks very different than the 1st package. It is more like DA's product from a few months ago. Off white, smells strongly of liquorice, and is powdered with a few .1 - .2 crystals.
I have taken a picture, but dunno where to upload it. I have even put a bit of FB's Molly, for comparison.
can someone provide a tor image hosting link or something? imgur has disabled uploading from tor... bastards....
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Fuck yeah! if it's the same I'd definitely have to jump on some of that!
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http://p7d2k2xiioailnuu.onion/
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Received the second package from DutchTrade. Came in at 4.9gm, so it seems the scale might still have an issue.. ;)
The product loooks very different than the 1st package. It is more like DA's product from a few months ago. Off white, smells strongly of liquorice, and is powdered with a few .1 - .2 crystals.
The same here, I get 10,9g :D
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Received the second package from DutchTrade. Came in at 4.9gm, so it seems the scale might still have an issue.. ;)
The product loooks very different than the 1st package. It is more like DA's product from a few months ago. Off white, smells strongly of liquorice, and is powdered with a few .1 - .2 crystals.
The same here, I get 10,9g :D
So let me get this straight, he has 2 different types of MDMA? someone who got the brown stuff for love of god pleaseeee do a line or give free sample to a friend to test out. pleasee we are all waiting on an answer on the quality it is driving me nuts!! plz plz :]
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I'm just going to leave this here-it's my review on MDMA vendors thread about my latest transaction on SR from DutchTrade
Just received my 10G from DUTCHTRADE. Here's my review.
VENDOR: DutchTrade
PRODUCT: 10G MDMA Actual weight-12.23g
COMMUNICATION 5/5 Very polite, fast responses-easy to understand and straight to the point.
SHIPPING: 4/5 Ordered 2/15, shipped 2/18?, received 2/27 to upper midwest. However, I am giving a 4/5 due to the single layer food grade vacuum seal and the fact that before opened, I could hear the product rattling within the stealth. Once opened, I could smell the odor of the product through the sealed bag which means that a dog could easily pick up the scent within the package.
STEALTH: 5/5 On point with Dutchaanbod and Interways, which has still provided me with a 100% success rate for orders coming out of Germany (I have now used PF, Dutchaanbod, Afterhour, Interways and Dutchtrade)
PRODUCT ?/5 HOLY SHIT! This shit looks and smells on point with Dutchaanbod, which if you had the opportunity to taste, you already know it's fire. I rolled on Monday, after 3 months of not doing so, on Interways mediocre shit but I know I'll be testing this product out within the next couple days. Bunch of chunks with crystal powder.
Overall, he is a stand up vendor. I still have another 20g on the way from interways 'new batch' so I'll post a review on here about that product when it comes, which will probably be next week. Either way, I think I have found my new bulk vendor with DutchTrade and am very pleased with the service that I received from him.
I'll post a picture when I get around to it. Order from Dutch with confidence.
On a personal note-I know for a fact we have a very high quality vendor here and so far since I've been on the road (which will be a year in a couple weeks) I've seen several vendors who WERE good quality vendors get fucked in the ass by scammers getting their shit and still getting refunds. I swear to god, I will be LIVID if this happens to DutchTrade. So PLEASE, DO NOT FUCK THIS GUY OVER!!!!!!! DON'T RUIN A GOOD THING FOR ALL OF US AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FINALIZE YOUR ORDERS WHEN YOU RECEIVE THEM!
Summer is coming up, which is festival season, and I was caught in a shit frenzy last year with Pf and really don't want this to happen again!
I'll post a full trip report as soon as I can.
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Since the second batch does look better, i will not be getting the brown stuff tested.
In stead, i will do an acetone wash on it. This will be my first time doing one, so i have decided to use this 1 g to experiment with.
sorry, i guess it will only be tested once its clean, but i can definitely weigh it before and after.
will be doing it over the weekend mostly.
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Best news iv heard all day!! Deadra7, was what you recieved also a whiteish color ?
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CHECK MY LISTINGS.
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Best news iv heard all day!! Deadra7, was what you recieved also a whiteish color ?
Yes it was!
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I for one am excited, once my refund from OA comes in I will try and place an order. I would love to read more reviews on the product as well, but so far everyone that has it seems to be saying good things on the look/smell. And as someone said earlier... if any scam buyers ruin a good thing I will be so mad.
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Best news iv heard all day!! Deadra7, was what you recieved also a whiteish color ?
Yes it was!
Awesomeeee. Could you be so kind as to share a picture of what it looked like with us buddy? im dying to see :]
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DYNAMITEDRUGS CHEAPEST ON THE ROAD AND BEST QUALITY.
CHECK MY LISTINGS.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2f7b23844c
Regards ,
DDrugs
Go advertise in your own thread, asshole.
Best news iv heard all day!! Deadra7, was what you recieved also a whiteish color ?
Yes it was!
Awesomeeee. Could you be so kind as to share a picture of what it looked like with us buddy? im dying to see :]
Fuck it, why not. I already bagged it all up to sell this weekend but I'm not doing shit right now so gimme about half a hour.
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thanks alot my dude!!
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I might take the plunge on a 100gr order next week. Hopefully more reviews will be in by then.
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here's a pic
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n8h.JPG
Top - FB's powdered product
Left - Dutchtrade's reship
Right - DutchTrade's 1st package, dark brown
the dark brown one does not smell as strongly as the lighter product.
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here's a pic
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n8h.JPG
Top - FB's powdered product
Left - Dutchtrade's reship
Right - DutchTrade's 1st package, dark brown
the dark brown one does not smell as strongly as the lighter product.
The reship looks exactly like what I recieved from DA back in December. Really nice stuff.
Hopefully he keeps sending that out.
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here's a pic
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n8h.JPG
Top - FB's powdered product
Left - Dutchtrade's reship
Right - DutchTrade's 1st package, dark brown
the dark brown one does not smell as strongly as the lighter product.
Oh wow yeah the reship looks sooo much better. I jsut placed a 10g order and pmed dutch about sending the lighter batch. Looks like fire stuff!!
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These are on the clearnet, because I don't have an invite to the .onion service-however, they were uploaded through tor and are safe to view on tor. They are the best I can do.
http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2445/71908714659856699313621068995BY0qcYCWfe4VCeDjSIM.JPG
http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2126/14473467729356612141362107065tnw6c0CId86hqLCYn59Q.JPG
Just did a little fingerbump, Tiesto sounds goooooooooooooood right meow ;D
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These are on the clearnet, because I don't have an invite to the .onion service-however, they were uploaded through tor and are safe to view on tor. They are the best I can do.
http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2445/71908714659856699313621068995BY0qcYCWfe4VCeDjSIM.JPG
http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2126/14473467729356612141362107065tnw6c0CId86hqLCYn59Q.JPG
Just did a little fingerbump, Tiesto sounds goooooooooooooood right meow ;D
open this link:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/
and click "choose file", and upload...
no need for invite
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did anyone have to sign for the package when you got it?
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did anyone have to sign for the package when you got it?
nope...
it was in the letterbox .
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DYNAMITEDRUGS DUMBEST VENDOR ON THE ROAD
Seriously dude way to go to tarnish your reputation by spamming other peoples threads.
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did anyone have to sign for the package when you got it?
nope...
it was in the letterbox .
Did you order with Track and Trace?
Also people should be aware that he sends max 50gr in an envelope..If you order 100gr and dont want two packages showing up at the same address, make sure you provide two drop locations.
Super excited for my orders to get here :D
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@ DynamiteDrugs; Please advertise and promote your product on your own page and stop spamming ours!
We would like to let you all know that we only sell light colored, top quality mdma! the darker one Daydreamer is talking about was a human mistake, unfortunately and won't happen again.
So please don't hesitate to order due to being unsure which product you will receive as we only have one top quality type of mdma to offer.
For all the customers who have placed an order up to now; thanks for your orders and please leave your reviews here.
We are looking forward to do business with you all!
The DutchTrade Crew
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Thank you for your response Dutch, that's good to know. I can't wait to place an order.
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Placed my order! Have *very* high hopes for DutchTrade 8)
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I just wanted to come on here right quick and say that I got the opportunity to test this shit out, and holy shit I'm very impressed. I'll post a full trip report when I'm sober enough but yeah, this shit is fucking fire
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I have 2 10g orders from DutchTrade on the way and I'm very excited. I know I'm new but 2 of my 3 first orders are from Dutch and I'm feeling very confident in SR.
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these guys are cops
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these guys are cops
Please don't come into vendor threads posting retarded shit.
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these guys are cops
What is your proof of this? Seriously, provide it or gtfo
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these guys are cops
Hahaha ;D Nonsense!
First for all buyers from outside Germany: What i know, it's illegal for Cops and Authorities to involve you in a Drug-Deal and bust you.
That's because it's completely illegal to do crime or any illegal activities for cops to investigate.
Look at the Profile of this Guy, he's registered today. If i would warn somebody here in forum with my fucking bad english i would go more in details.
I doesn't believe a shit.
BTW: I recieved a free sample from DutchTrade of 0,5g. Nice white Batch, with Authentic Smell! Will test it tonight and will give you a Feedback!
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What is with these scrub vendors spamming other vendors threads? Seriously man, it makes you look like shit.
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I just wanted to come on here right quick and say that I got the opportunity to test this shit out, and holy shit I'm very impressed. I'll post a full trip report when I'm sober enough but yeah, this shit is fucking fire
Hell yeah! what dose did you take buddy?
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Here's my review of DutchTrade's product and service widdled down into two words : DUTCH DELIVERS!
That is all.
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just put in an order for 100g with the dutchman, expect a flawless transaction based on reviews :D
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What is with these scrub vendors spamming other vendors threads?
I guess its because DutchTrade is becoming pretty popular quickly.
Also the newbie section is not the ideal place for a review thread.
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I hope more great reviews come in. Product looks great. Can anyone comment on how legit the packaging is? Like top notch or needs work?
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anymore reviews/ trip reports guys?
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anymore reviews/ trip reports guys?
Alright guys, sorry it took me so long to post my trip report: last night I went out again and fell into a k hole all night-but that's a different story for a different day.
Friday night I went to a jam band style show-not my ideal setting but my girl loves that type of music and she comes to all my EDM shows so I said fuck it, maybe dutch's MDMA would make it more fun (it did, to a certain extent)
T-0:00 (10:20 PM) Dropped 200MG capped up of dutch's gear in the car before I went in-the 10 gram order I just received the previous day. I rolled last Monday off Interways shit, which was fairly weak (hour roll tops) and before that it had been since November since I rolled, so I'd still consider my tolerance fairly low-although I have been consuming MDMA-type products for several years I know exactly what to expect from a good, clean roll. Anyways, I was completely sober from other chemicals, alcohol and weed included, before I started rolling.
T-0:30 Small come up effects were noticed, although it was so fucking cold inside and out which made me feel quite uncomfortable.
T-1:00 As I was dancing with my girl while the band was jamming out, I started to feel the full on effects of the drug come on. It was very euphoric and my entire body felt amazing
T-1:30 Band goes on intermission so we have a seat and just start touching each other all over, enjoying the sensations from the simple rub of the back, arms and stomach. We decide we want to be in bed together, so we left right there and drove an hour home (but it seemed like an eternity)
T-2:30 we each drop another 100MG upon returning home, laid on the couch and we're just kissing, touching eachother and got completely naked. It was an amazing feeling-I'd honestly never rolled this hard around a girl (especially one I'm madly in love with) and her touch was orgasmic everywhere she touched. Jaw was clenching (HARD!) and my pupils were the size of a motherfuckin' dime.
T-2:40 The redose hit us like a brick wall to the point we could not stop talking, but were forgetting almost everything we were saying right after it was said (it was kinda funny, actually). We just laid there, naked, talking about everything and anything that was on our minds. Literally, my entire body and mind was in complete bliss to the point that I can't even put into words on here.
T-4:00 We started to smoke some bowls of weed and each took a couple MG of xanax as the slow comedown started to occur.
T-5:00 The roll was basically gone, however still laying with my girl was very euphoric in itself and we both gradually fell asleep a short time afterwards-woke up feeling like a million bucks. Hah! Take that alcohol!
I know this might sound like a sappy love story, but seriously having her there made the experience one hell of a one. It's almost like we fell back in love with each other. I will be completely honest and say this is some very, very high quality product that will easily resale for $15-20 a tenth and at least $100 a gram at certain events across the country (you all better know what I'm referring to).
DutchTrade is the new dutchaanbod IMO, I will be putting in a massive order next week based on my experience with this 10g transaction. If anybody has any questions they'd like answered in particular, please don't hesitate to contact me or PM.
I'll say it once again though, DO NOT FUCK THIS GUY OVER!!!!!! This is a very Honest vendor, amazing prices, fucking fire product and very decent stealth measures which will earn him his place in the top 1% within the next two months, and I just hope that he isn't a single man operation like PF was otherwise this will go to shit by late May-June.
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any pictures how does this batch look^^^ ?
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Hey Dutchtrade, can you comment on the guy in a feedback who said he had to sign for a package at the post office?
Does selecting the track and trace option for international packages mean a signature is required?
Looking to order but want to get that issue cleared up first.
If anyone else that ordered to USA with track/trace or regular international shipping could comment on if you had to sign, that would help out as well.
Also looking for some comments on STEALTH.
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Got my Sample today... Stealth was nothing less then perfect... product is very high quality... yellow, golden in colour... beautiful... definetly going to order more... thanks!
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Hey Dutchtrade, can you comment on the guy in a feedback who said he had to sign for a package at the post office?
Does selecting the track and trace option for international packages mean a signature is required?
Looking to order but want to get that issue cleared up first.
If anyone else that ordered to USA with track/trace or regular international shipping could comment on if you had to sign, that would help out as well.
Also looking for some comments on STEALTH.
In my experience with Afterhour, Pfhandler, and Dutchaabod, Track and Track is a signed-for shipping option.
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@Deadra7 Thanks for the (more than) positive feedback, we really appreciate it!
@ Ballstripped; as far as we know track&trace doesn't need to be signed for upon arrival, as "sign for receiving" normally is another additional (more expensive) option.
We have sent many track&trace packages so far and haven't heard anyone about signing upon arrival. The package is also small enough to fit into the mailbox.
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anymore reviews/ trip reports guys?
Alright guys, sorry it took me so long to post my trip report: last night I went out again and fell into a k hole all night-but that's a different story for a different day.
Friday night I went to a jam band style show-not my ideal setting but my girl loves that type of music and she comes to all my EDM shows so I said fuck it, maybe dutch's MDMA would make it more fun (it did, to a certain extent)
T-0:00 (10:20 PM) Dropped 200MG capped up of dutch's gear in the car before I went in-the 10 gram order I just received the previous day. I rolled last Monday off Interways shit, which was fairly weak (hour roll tops) and before that it had been since November since I rolled, so I'd still consider my tolerance fairly low-although I have been consuming MDMA-type products for several years I know exactly what to expect from a good, clean roll. Anyways, I was completely sober from other chemicals, alcohol and weed included, before I started rolling.
T-0:30 Small come up effects were noticed, although it was so fucking cold inside and out which made me feel quite uncomfortable.
T-1:00 As I was dancing with my girl while the band was jamming out, I started to feel the full on effects of the drug come on. It was very euphoric and my entire body felt amazing
T-1:30 Band goes on intermission so we have a seat and just start touching each other all over, enjoying the sensations from the simple rub of the back, arms and stomach. We decide we want to be in bed together, so we left right there and drove an hour home (but it seemed like an eternity)
T-2:30 we each drop another 100MG upon returning home, laid on the couch and we're just kissing, touching eachother and got completely naked. It was an amazing feeling-I'd honestly never rolled this hard around a girl (especially one I'm madly in love with) and her touch was orgasmic everywhere she touched. Jaw was clenching (HARD!) and my pupils were the size of a motherfuckin' dime.
T-2:40 The redose hit us like a brick wall to the point we could not stop talking, but were forgetting almost everything we were saying right after it was said (it was kinda funny, actually). We just laid there, naked, talking about everything and anything that was on our minds. Literally, my entire body and mind was in complete bliss to the point that I can't even put into words on here.
T-4:00 We started to smoke some bowls of weed and each took a couple MG of xanax as the slow comedown started to occur.
T-5:00 The roll was basically gone, however still laying with my girl was very euphoric in itself and we both gradually fell asleep a short time afterwards-woke up feeling like a million bucks. Hah! Take that alcohol!
I know this might sound like a sappy love story, but seriously having her there made the experience one hell of a one. It's almost like we fell back in love with each other. I will be completely honest and say this is some very, very high quality product that will easily resale for $15-20 a tenth and at least $100 a gram at certain events across the country (you all better know what I'm referring to).
DutchTrade is the new dutchaanbod IMO, I will be putting in a massive order next week based on my experience with this 10g transaction. If anybody has any questions they'd like answered in particular, please don't hesitate to contact me or PM.
I'll say it once again though, DO NOT FUCK THIS GUY OVER!!!!!! This is a very Honest vendor, amazing prices, fucking fire product and very decent stealth measures which will earn him his place in the top 1% within the next two months, and I just hope that he isn't a single man operation like PF was otherwise this will go to shit by late May-June.
how did the product come as??rocks/powder/sand.. im about to place an order for 10grams..gonna have him double vac seal the product though.
how long did it take from in transit to you..i think i remember your in the US
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DutchTrade,
Any chance of a 75 gram listing? We're just short of your 100 gram price and would like to give your product a go. When you start being called " the new Dutchaanabod", our ears perk up at what you're offering, especially an extra 10% for the first 100 orders.
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Disregard that last statement DT, we managed to get some more money in our account this morning. As for people viewing this thread, we have pulled the trigger and placed a 100 gram order with DT this afternoon, we will be sure to update on all appropriate forum threads on how service and product pans out. DeadRa7's review was what convinced us though, hopefully business is going well for you sir or mam. You heading off to Electric Forest this year?
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Disregard that last statement DT, we managed to get some more money in our account this morning. As for people viewing this thread, we have pulled the trigger and placed a 100 gram order with DT this afternoon, we will be sure to update on all appropriate forum threads on how service and product pans out. DeadRa7's review was what convinced us though, hopefully business is going well for you sir or mam. You heading off to Electric Forest this year?
I look forward to hearing your review-I've seen that DT has had a couple/few successful bulk orders so far and that's pretty promising. Gearing up to get some bulk too-seriously awesome quality. Thank you, it is! Turning 20g into 100+ then going from there :) and yes! EF will be AMAZING this year! (need some bassnectar though :(
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How would you say it compares to AfterHour's or Pfandleiher's? I think you've dealt with both of them in the past yeah? No Bassnectar is pretty saddening, but thankfully we've got Pretty Lights and Passion Pit. You going up there to vend, enjoy yourself, or a bit of both? How would say their packaging is too?
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
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How would you say it compares to AfterHour's or Pfandleiher's? I think you've dealt with both of them in the past yeah? No Bassnectar is pretty saddening, but thankfully we've got Pretty Lights and Passion Pit. You going up there to vend, enjoy yourself, or a bit of both? How would say their packaging is too?
I think it was more like Pf's-however, let me be frank and say I did much more business with pf than I did AH. I got a 50g order from AH but didn't test it out myself but was very familiar with Pf's and Dutch's quality. I don't think you could get much pure in bulk for the price, unless you have a lab, precursor, and Organic Chem II at a university (ahh, wishful thinking to have that)
No vending this year-it's been a rough year and I just wanna go lose my mind for a weekend in the forest without having to worry about products other than this beautiful mdma 8) PL will kill it, but god damn it if I hear 'hot like sauce' one more time I'm walking away from his set! :P Not really, but he needs to change it up a bit in my opinion.
Packaging is on par with previous vendors that have been on here, a step up from PF's and on par with Dutch-these methods have provided me a 100% success rate so far to the upper midwest from Germany...really needs to stay like that now more than ever though-all of my capital is tied up in this business.
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Hi,
i just received my sample of 500mg (i was expecting ~200).
I did not have to sign. Stealth is absolutely gorgeous (i thought hey, the stealth might be worth more than the actual product :D). The vacuum package it came in was very nice aswell. Not a single trace of smell. The product itself is a little bit crushed but looking at it with a loupe makes me comfortable its not impure.i guess its in that state due to increase stealth. It has some very clear, white little stones and some tan - just like u imagine it.
It was sent out at Monday and arrived Wednesday (today).
Ill come back for a review on the quality after the weekend.
So far, im highly impressed by these guys. If they can keep up the work they provided me with there is no doubt they will be the next mdma superstars here on sr (if quality of the product fits the quality of the service - which i have no doubt it will)
Thanks for picking me as a reviewer. At the time i asked him i had not even 20 posts and no purchases at all. Personally i wouldnt take a chance of such a newbe 'hit and run' without leaving a feedback behind. But he did. Things like that separates the good from the very good sellers in my opinion.
Have a wonderful day everyone
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Has anyone else in the US had to sign for their package? I am ready to pull the trigger on a 100g order but having to sign for it would give me an anxiety attack.
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Has anyone else in the US had to sign for their package? I am ready to pull the trigger on a 100g order but having to sign for it would give me an anxiety attack.
I'm currently waiting on an 100 gram order from DT, but I've used AfterHour a bunch in the past and have always had to sign for his packages, even had to go to the post office once because I wasn't home for the delivery. Do not freak out about it too much, signing for a package does not mean you were the one who ordered it and you have no idea what's inside. Put on a little bit of dramatics and act surprised if you have to sign for it.
DeadRa7,
Funny you should mention that as my partner and I have begun taking the steps towards manufacturing with the help of vendors DrDeepWood and Joy. It's a bit tedious, but a fairly straightforward process. Just requires a lot of patience, tact, and willingness to learn.
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You sir, have bigger balls than I.
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I have pulled trigger on 100 so fingers cross :-/
In all honesty I'm quite nervous this time and do not know why just have strange feeling(sorry for rant).
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I have pulled trigger on 100 so fingers cross :-/
In all honesty I'm quite nervous this time and do not know why just have strange feeling(sorry for rant).
Tala1,
You certainly aren't alone in that regard. Them funny feelings probably originate from the notion that DutchTrade is a relatively new vendor and there is always that slight cvhance things could go awry. Just keep us posted on your order and put a little trust in DT, they've been extremely professional and courteous so far.
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I have pulled trigger on 100 so fingers cross :-/
In all honesty I'm quite nervous this time and do not know why just have strange feeling(sorry for rant).
Tala1,
You certainly aren't alone in that regard. Them funny feelings probably originate from the notion that DutchTrade is a relatively new vendor and there is always that slight cvhance things could go awry. Just keep us posted on your order and put a little trust in DT, they've been extremely professional and courteous so far.
Sequel,
thank you very much for your support :-)
I didn't want to mention it but I had a disturbing dream 2 nights ago(didn't mention anything to my partner) - today she said me that she had the disturbing dream= basically same as I had :-(
I'm just over thinking the things. Back to positive note - all will be good and DT is legit vendor :-)
I will certainly update this thread as to how it all went.
Thanks Sequel :-)
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Just placed my 15 gram order. It's not going to my residence but please for the love of GOD dutch trade with all these recent CD's and packages being caught please exercise the maximum amount of caution! I will update my experience the whole way!! Please everyone else who has ordered from this vendor give us updates as you get them! Thanks all & I wish us all luck with our transactions and look forward to using this vendor in the future!
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Has anyone else in the US had to sign for their package? I am ready to pull the trigger on a 100g order but having to sign for it would give me an anxiety attack.
DeadRa7,
Funny you should mention that as my partner and I have begun taking the steps towards manufacturing with the help of vendors DrDeepWood and Joy. It's a bit tedious, but a fairly straightforward process. Just requires a lot of patience, tact, and willingness to learn.
Fuck man, let me know how that goes! If I could manufacture....holy shit....I'd be rich!! 8) ;D
I have pulled trigger on 100 so fingers cross :-/
In all honesty I'm quite nervous this time and do not know why just have strange feeling(sorry for rant).
If it makes you feel any better, I'm about to go in on around a 250g order-biggest one yet...quarter key-youch! I just got my xanax refilled, so hopefully my nerves the next couple weeks won't drive me to the fuckin' psych ward (I usually don't have too much anxiety, but shit, it's all part of the game....I really need this 20k to set this summer off right!)
I have pulled trigger on 100 so fingers cross :-/
In all honesty I'm quite nervous this time and do not know why just have strange feeling(sorry for rant).
Tala1,
You certainly aren't alone in that regard. Them funny feelings probably originate from the notion that DutchTrade is a relatively new vendor and there is always that slight cvhance things could go awry. Just keep us posted on your order and put a little trust in DT, they've been extremely professional and courteous so far.
I have had a great feeling about this vendor since I found his vendor page when it was still two weeks new and there were zero transactions-and my 10g order was perfect and his stealth is on par as a motherfucker, so let's just hope they can keep this going! I have a very high amount of respect for this vendor, and am trusting him to deliver my product as some of the highest quality with the most up to date stealth tactics.
I have pulled trigger on 100 so fingers cross :-/
In all honesty I'm quite nervous this time and do not know why just have strange feeling(sorry for rant).
Tala1,
You certainly aren't alone in that regard. Them funny feelings probably originate from the notion that DutchTrade is a relatively new vendor and there is always that slight cvhance things could go awry. Just keep us posted on your order and put a little trust in DT, they've been extremely professional and courteous so far.
Sequel,
thank you very much for your support :-)
I didn't want to mention it but I had a disturbing dream 2 nights ago(didn't mention anything to my partner) - today she said me that she had the disturbing dream= basically same as I had :-(
I'm just over thinking the things. Back to positive note - all will be good and DT is legit vendor :-)
I will certainly update this thread as to how it all went.
Thanks Sequel :-)
THOSE DREAMS! AAAHHHHH!! They drive me fucking insane sometimes! Like I said, it's all part of 'the game'...if your not at least a little paranoid, your not doing it right lol. I look forward to your update, best of luck to you my friend
May everyone's packs come in fast and heavy. I love all of you and wish you happy rolling/$ making ;D
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5g. Ordered today. Shipped today. We're off to a lovely start ;D I will update .
Slight derail.....:
Sorry to add unnecessary paranoia, but here's a question I've been wanting to ask. Seems as good a time as any: Whats keeping LEO from opening a vender account and getting to us that way?
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5g. Ordered today. Shipped today. We're off to a lovely start ;D I will update .
Slight derail.....:
Sorry to add unnecessary paranoia, but here's a question I've been wanting to ask. Seems as good a time as any: Whats keeping LEO from opening a vender account and getting to us that way?
APOLOGY ACCEPTED, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE NERVOUS WRECKS OF US. Seriously though, the question that you pose has a fair degree of validity to it, but consider the amount of time that would have to go into obtaining a list of addresses and names and somehow keeping tabs on all of them. LE has much bigger and readily fish to fry in a lot of cases. Sure they can keep watch on people going for personal use amounts or they could be going after that obvious meth-lab that has been watched for a couple months.For all LE may know also, these aren't reflective of the actual individuals who are ordering illicit product of any kind. Maybe some of us "accidentally" give an address that is the slightest bit off and drop by our neighbors' homes when we see that tracking has shown our packages are delivered. Maybe all of us had no idea what was in that package and that we must be on some sick idea of a prank-themed television program.
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Hey guys, i just took the plunge! Placed a 100g order to the midwest bout this time last night. Package was market in transit after about 12hr (just had to cancel a hollymolly order after it sat in processing for 8 days!!). They said i still got in on the extra 10%. I hope all goes well. its been a struggle for me since dutch disapeared! Ill keep you guys posted
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Parcel has been marked in "Transit" after 24 hours :-)
Happy days :-)
How can I subscribe to this thread ?
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Parcel has been marked in "Transit" after 24 hours :-)
Happy days :-)
How can I subscribe to this thread ?
When you post in it, it auto subscribes you. Just click on "show new replies to my post" at the top under your name. It won't show up unless there are new post!
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Parcel has been marked in "Transit" after 24 hours :-)
Happy days :-)
How can I subscribe to this thread ?
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Thank you very much for your help :-)
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Parcel has been marked in "Transit" after 24 hours :-)
Happy days :-)
How can I subscribe to this thread ?
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Thank you very much for your help :-)
It's no problem, If you don't mind me asking how many G's did you order and to what country? I am curious about the shipping time to USA, also can you only track it once it makes it into the US?
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@ Whiteout
Tracking will update once it reaches America
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Received package for 10g today. Ordered on Saturday which means it took 3/4 working days from Germany to UK. I usually order molly from UK vendors but if DT keeps up the same standard of service he will have a loyal new customer. The delivery time was faster than some UK-to-UK vendors i've tried.
The package had roughly 10% extra as promised (nice touch!) and had probably the best stealth i've come across so far. Obviously it had to be seeing as it had to go through customs etc. but i was very impressed nonetheless. The product is light brown and smells great, there are still some rocks
intact but the majority of them have been crushed. Overall I would put DT up there with some of my favourite vendors already in terms of service. Hopefully hes here to stay!
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Parcel has been marked in "Transit" after 24 hours :-)
Happy days :-)
How can I subscribe to this thread ?
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Thank you very much for your help :-)
It's no problem, If you don't mind me asking how many G's did you order and to what country? I am curious about the shipping time to USA, also can you only track it once it makes it into the US?
I'm based in EU so I have selected EU option which was something like 0.5Bc. Sorry can't help you with US :-/
I ordered 100 so fingers cross all will be safe and sound :-)
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After all the positive feedback I've been seeing about Dutch I've decided to order 10g with the tracking option. I plan on updating when the package arrives. Does anyone know if tracking involves signing? When I messaged Dutch he mentioned there was no signing involved but there's some feedback that mentioned signing for a package.
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Who in the US has been using the Tracking option? I read earlier that somebody had to sign for a package from DutchTrade when using his Tracking and I really hope that is not the case.
I involuntarily received the Tracking option and now I'm a bit nervous/pissed that I might have to contemplate leaving it at the post office in that situation.
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Here we go :-/
Today I have found card in mail box :
"Something for you"
"could not be delivered because: a SIGNATURE IS REQUIRED"
I should allow them 24 hours before collecting. I knew that TRACK&TRACE will require signature but was told by seller that that is not the case :-(
What should I do ? ??????????
Take a hit and loose coins or risk it all the way ???????
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Stop being a newb and go pick up your package. Yes shipping things from Germany to US requires a signature. Sometimes depending on your mailman they will leave the package for you without collecting the signature but in most cases you will have to sign for the package.
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Stop being a newb and go pick up your package. Yes shipping things from Germany to US requires a signature. Sometimes depending on your mailman they will leave the package for you without collecting the signature but in most cases you will have to sign for the package.
Many thanks for a quick response :-)
I'm based in EU. DutchTraders T&C mentions that shipping over 50g will be send as track and trace. What misled me was option to choose EU postage (1st class).
Not nice to be between the rock and hard place :-)
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Tala1,
Relax, breathe deep, and go pick up your drugs. You're going to be fine, just go to the post office with your slip of paper, look a bit confused and tell the nice postal workers you're there to pick up some mail that you guess you weren't home for and had to sign for. Sign for it, wish them a good rest of the day, go home and enjoy yourself. I had to go to my post office to pick up over 100 grams of AfterHour's stuff and sign for it once and it went completely fine. I had to fart pretty bad, but that was the worst part of it all.
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Ah apologies then, for some reason I assumed you're from US. No clue how things run in EU, hope everything works out for you.
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this stuff IS pure fire! my girl tried 150mgs of it and went bananas. we couldnt even stay in the club for 30 minutes before she wanted to go home urgently :D
here is where i buy with confidence. not only because the quality/price is so wonderful but specially because of the stealth shipping. its outstanding.
keep it up and have a nice day
btw: i did not have to sign. anyway u should go and pick it up. it is so stealth i cant believe they found anything. looking into THAT package would mean they have to look in every second package, which is just not practicable.
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i got my order of 10grams in about 6 days in transit...including the weekend :D
sick. nice stealth that im used to..though i asked for it to be double vacced.it wasnt
whatever couldnt smell it through anyways. though im sure a dog could.
passed all reagents..gonna take some this weekend :) probably 175 :) since people are saying its fire
my friend downed 210..threw up :D haha and afterwards he was rollin tits. <3
thanks DT
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Ordered a small personal use amount to make up for an order that never arrived from XTCEXPRESS.
Marked in-transit as of this morning
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Tala1,
Relax, breathe deep, and go pick up your drugs. You're going to be fine, just go to the post office with your slip of paper, look a bit confused and tell the nice postal workers you're there to pick up some mail that you guess you weren't home for and had to sign for. Sign for it, wish them a good rest of the day, go home and enjoy yourself. I had to go to my post office to pick up over 100 grams of AfterHour's stuff and sign for it once and it went completely fine. I had to fart pretty bad, but that was the worst part of it all.
Many thanks for support Sequel :-)
I will go there tomorrow with "what the hell is this face" :-)
Thank you very much :-)
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i got my order of 10grams in about 6 days in transit...including the weekend :D
sick. nice stealth that im used to..though i asked for it to be double vacced.it wasnt
whatever couldnt smell it through anyways. though im sure a dog could.
passed all reagents..gonna take some this weekend :) probably 175 :) since people are saying its fire
my friend downed 210..threw up :D haha and afterwards he was rollin tits. <3
thanks DT
6 days from Germany to where? Are you in the EU, the US, or somewhere else? Good to see another review saying that DT's stuff is top-notch.
Tala1,
You're quite welcome. It certainly pays to be a bit paranoid, but it's better just to be perceptive and keep a clear head.
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Ugh, mine was sent with track and trace too. I hope the postman remembers that Canadian and European mail comes in from time to time and decides to not leave me a pick-up slip.
Dutch needs to advertise that there's a chance a signature is required with his tracking.
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Anyone else experience problems with DT's PGP key? It's showing up in my keychain but not the list of recipients to encrypt to. I messaged him about it and he gave me the new key, but I still have the same problem. Really looking forward to placing an order once this issue is resolved.
Edit: For anyone that runs into this issue, you need to install the nightly builds of GPG Keychain Access AND GPGTools. I only installed the Keychain Access, but after installing both everything works fine!
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So are people from the US having to sign even without selecting "Track & Trace" option?
I think this needs some clarification!
Subscribing to this thread and placing an order for the extra 10% if my coins can get here in time!
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Ordered a sample on friday and received it monday - domestic - , perfect.
stealth / package looked pretty fine, no smell at all and it looked easily like a bussiness letter or something.
Haven't got to test the product yet since i gotta go to work, but will surely next weekend so i am going to edit on the quality. Although i guess it is gonna be great, 0.5 g for a sample ( which i appreciate ) is just 1 rock, almost white , a bit tanish though.
Seemes like a trusted vendor to me, will be placing an order soon.
Thanks DT
Sorry for my bad english =/
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So are people from the US having to sign even without selecting "Track & Trace" option?
I think this needs some clarification!
Subscribing to this thread and placing an order for the extra 10% if my coins can get here in time!
If you order 50g+ then you get free tracking.
In my case, I ordered 50g and chose the cheaper international shipping option so I wouldn't have to deal with what comes with track/trace. But apparently on his profile he says that orders ">50grams" get free track/trace. I'm not sure if he considers this a freebie that customers appreciate or if it is for him to make sure no scammers lie about a package not showing.
If I knew that this track/trace at 50g+ was mandatory then I would have ordered 40g.
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i got my order of 10grams in about 6 days in transit...including the weekend :D
sick. nice stealth that im used to..though i asked for it to be double vacced.it wasnt
whatever couldnt smell it through anyways. though im sure a dog could.
passed all reagents..gonna take some this weekend :) probably 175 :) since people are saying its fire
my friend downed 210..threw up :D haha and afterwards he was rollin tits. <3
thanks DT
6 days from Germany to where? Are you in the EU, the US, or somewhere else? Good to see another review saying that DT's stuff is top-notch.
Tala1,
You're quite welcome. It certainly pays to be a bit paranoid, but it's better just to be perceptive and keep a clear head.
west coast US
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Holy shit that is remarkably fast. Now you've gone and raised my hopes up that it'll arrive tomorrow.
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i got my order of 10grams in about 6 days in transit...including the weekend :D
sick. nice stealth that im used to..though i asked for it to be double vacced.it wasnt
whatever couldnt smell it through anyways. though im sure a dog could.
passed all reagents..gonna take some this weekend :) probably 175 :) since people are saying its fire
my friend downed 210..threw up :D haha and afterwards he was rollin tits. <3
thanks DT
6 days from Germany to where? Are you in the EU, the US, or somewhere else? Good to see another review saying that DT's stuff is top-notch.
Tala1,
You're quite welcome. It certainly pays to be a bit paranoid, but it's better just to be perceptive and keep a clear head.
west coast US
Sero Tonin,
Did you use the standard international shipping? And if so, did you have to sign? Just pulled the trigger on 10g and really don't want to put up with the stress of signing for that package.
Also, 6 days to west coast? FUCK YA!
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Does the track and trace require a signature?
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I've been doing alot of research on who to make my first big purchase from and fortunately right before I was about to load coins to order from XTCEXPRESS I stumbled across Dutch's MDMA listing. As everyone else already knows these prices are absurd for the product people are reporting. I ordered my 10g last night, the wee AM hours for Dutch, came home from work this evening and the order is in transit. From what people are saying I expect this within two weeks. If all goes well I don't see how anyone can top these guys. I'll keep you guys posted.
I'm excited to be excited about Dutch
Oh, US here, by the way.
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Wow these shipping times to US are amazing! Waiting on my 15gram order atm. I used the track and trace option. As for everyone being worried about signing I think this is only the case if your envelope won't fit in your mailbox. I have only seen 2 people say they actually had to sign. But this has me curious as well. Are you guys tracking through USPS?
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Track&Trace = you have to sign for it
orders over 50g are getting track&trace compulsory = scammers prevention
if you order 100g = it's split between 2 parcels and both parcels are send same day, from a same place, to your address( I would wait a week between parcels)
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Track&Trace = you have to sign for it
orders over 50g are getting track&trace compulsory = scammers prevention
if you order 100g = it's split between 2 parcels and both parcels are send same day, from a same place, to your address( I would wait a week between parcels)
This is contradictory to what the vendor told me. I ordered a small enough size that it will fit in my mailbox. I also have track and trace. I was under the assumption the mail main would just leave it in the box? I think signing is only for the larger orders that won't fit or just specific mailmen. I mean they all do it different to an extent from what I have read.
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this is a great thread 10/10 ty
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My first order of 100 grams arrived in 8 days total. Two packs, weight was 10% extra as promised! My second order of 200 grams, I have received 2/4 of the packs and weight has been spot on. The product looks fantastic and I am literally moving it as fast as it arrives in the post..I've made more in three days than I do working 6 months at my desk job!! Much fucking love DutchTrade, there will be thousands of happy people rolling at Ultra Music Festival because of you :D
I have had to sign for all packages thus far (As expected..! Don't you people know this by now?!? It's REGISTERED MAIL and Postal Service policy as far as RM is concerned) and I picked up the first two after they sat at the post office for 3 days because I was out of town.
Order from DutchTrade with the most supreme confidence.
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DT told me that they use Moisture Barrier Bags for bagging, however I have not ordered from him yet.
Anyone who has ordered, were the bags any alike the 3M Dri-Shield bags? I'm just starting to pay more attention in what the vendors package the shipments after reading this thread -> http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
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Ordered with Track&Race on 3th March but still nothing arrived yet and it should not take that long for domestic shipment. I´ve already sent him some Messages and neither got an answer nor the Tracking ID. Hopefully this turns good. Will update later..
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I am still waiting on the 10 grams that I ordered 11 days ago yet when prompted to resolve, my extension was denied. I haven't heard a reply to my message yet, but I would like to know whether the refund policy will be honored after 30 days.
DutchTrader declined my extension and instead offered a 5 day extension (the day auto-finalize would have released the funds).
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I have had to sign for all packages thus far (As expected..! Don't you people know this by now?!? It's REGISTERED MAIL and Postal Service policy as far as RM is concerned) and I picked up the first two after they sat at the post office for 3 days because I was out of town.
When people are talking about whether they sign for packages, SPECIFY YOUR COUNTRY, or at least your continent. Every country has different policies regarding signing for international or domestic packages, so it's completely useless to talk about signing for the package if you don't clarify your country.
I'm interested in anyone that ordered to the US with Track and Trace option. Please advise if you fall in that category and if you had to sign or not. Quantities help as well.
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All good and I do have both parcels :-)
Stealth was very good and dispatch/delivery time even better(EU).
Thank you very much DutchTrade
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My first order of 100 grams arrived in 8 days total. Two packs, weight was 10% extra as promised! My second order of 200 grams, I have received 2/4 of the packs and weight has been spot on. The product looks fantastic and I am literally moving it as fast as it arrives in the post..I've made more in three days than I do working 6 months at my desk job!! Much fucking love DutchTrade, there will be thousands of happy people rolling at Ultra Music Festival because of you :D
I have had to sign for all packages thus far (As expected..! Don't you people know this by now?!? It's REGISTERED MAIL and Postal Service policy as far as RM is concerned) and I picked up the first two after they sat at the post office for 3 days because I was out of town.
Order from DutchTrade with the most supreme confidence.
right on man, dutch is a top notch vendor so far. such easy money... make sure ur careful!
100g took 7 days to US west.. that's like a record. going to order another 100g soon.
I had to sign too, its pretty safe though since in CD's they make sure you are present to sign, they left a slip on the door. hell anyone could sign that.. LE needs complete control of the CD in order to prosecute u and build a good case. the only other situations I've seen where you can get screwed is where they put in a tracking device until you open it.. but that's only with 300g+ or kilos of cocaine, and is usually due to shitty packaging or some other factor like you're being watched already.
anyway, making sure to get this in before coachella... since dutchtrade is going to make plenty of happy ppl there ;)
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Order 10 grams mdma some days ago still my track number dobt work....."cant find bla bla bla"
After i reading thoser last post im worried...11 grams mdma=police will come and have a crack down.
have mdma @ home need to move it gonna do it now. Im scared!
Hope it will arrive
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I have a 100 gram pack and a 50 gram pack en route. However I am getting a bit worried as both tracking numbers have been stuck on "origin post is preparing shipment" for 7 days now. Is this normal behavior? Everyone else is saying they got theres in a week. I usually see tracking updates which state it arrived at ISC in NY and then inbound to customs, and outbound to customs and I receive 3 days after that.... Can someone make me feel a little bit more comfortable and tell me that the origin post preparing shipment for days is normal and that USPS is just shitty sometimes with tracking?
thanks!
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I have a 100 gram pack and a 50 gram pack en route. However I am getting a bit worried as both tracking numbers have been stuck on "origin post is preparing shipment" for 7 days now. Is this normal behavior? Everyone else is saying they got theres in a week. I usually see tracking updates which state it arrived at ISC in NY and then inbound to customs, and outbound to customs and I receive 3 days after that.... Can someone make me feel a little bit more comfortable and tell me that the origin post preparing shipment for days is normal and that USPS is just shitty sometimes with tracking?
thanks!
Some days ago he put in in transit & now my track id works :) Says it been send from Germany to destination country, im from Norway.
So tonight there will be an update for me i think "items accepted in destination country" or something like that.
So your letter is stuck in Germany? for 7 days? i Would flipp the fuck out!
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phew!!! Looks like it will be delivered today. Tracking just updated to "Arrival at unit" This usually precedes the product being placed for delivery. I am a little worried though as the tracking completely skipped all the customs info. I usually see inbound ISC, Outbound ISC and see the product go through NY. Has anyone seen this before where the tracking completely skips the whole customs process?
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I have had to sign for all packages thus far (As expected..! Don't you people know this by now?!? It's REGISTERED MAIL and Postal Service policy as far as RM is concerned) and I picked up the first two after they sat at the post office for 3 days because I was out of town.
When people are talking about whether they sign for packages, SPECIFY YOUR COUNTRY, or at least your continent. Every country has different policies regarding signing for international or domestic packages, so it's completely useless to talk about signing for the package if you don't clarify your country.
I'm interested in anyone that ordered to the US with Track and Trace option. Please advise if you fall in that category and if you had to sign or not. Quantities help as well.
I have already specified that I am located in the USA several times in this thread as I've kept others buyers updated. Track and Trace is REGISTERED MAIL and by USPS policy, requires a signature upon delivery/signing the slip they leave if you are not there. Few and far between you get postal workers who don't want to walk to your door or whatever so they leave it in the mailbox. This is the *exception*, not the rule. There really isn't much further discussion regarding that topic.
Regardless, if you are getting 100+ grams of MDMA to your door, and they find out, pretty sure you are gonna get nailed whether you scribble your name or not. The BEST way to prevent a conviction is to: 1. Do NOT have drugs in your house when waiting for a delivery. A little bud is one thing, but seriously..No drugs. This is way more important than any signature you could ever sign. 2. Encrypt your electronic footprint.
I don't know where the idea comes from that the police need a signature to secure any sort of conviction. That's just silly to even think about. I don't know specifics but considering how often people's doors get busted down incorrectly, I don't think it'd be too hard to talk a judge into serving a warrant upon discovery of a quarter-pound of marijuana coming to your home. Let me reiterate..A single signature is NOT your last defense in preventing arrest, nor is it ANY defense.
phew!!! Looks like it will be delivered today. Tracking just updated to "Arrival at unit" This usually precedes the product being placed for delivery. I am a little worried though as the tracking completely skipped all the customs info. I usually see inbound ISC, Outbound ISC and see the product go through NY. Has anyone seen this before where the tracking completely skips the whole customs process?
Back when I ordered with AH or Dutchaabod, it would update through customs occasionally. None of my tracking numbers updated except when leaving Germany and arriving in my town.
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I have a 100 gram pack and a 50 gram pack en route. However I am getting a bit worried as both tracking numbers have been stuck on "origin post is preparing shipment" for 7 days now. Is this normal behavior? Everyone else is saying they got theres in a week. I usually see tracking updates which state it arrived at ISC in NY and then inbound to customs, and outbound to customs and I receive 3 days after that.... Can someone make me feel a little bit more comfortable and tell me that the origin post preparing shipment for days is normal and that USPS is just shitty sometimes with tracking?
thanks!
Mine has been stuck on "origin post is preparing shipment" for 7 days as well.
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also there has been bad snow in Germany the past few days and roughly 80 flights were cancelled at (location removed) airport so that could delay shit for a couple days
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I have a 100 gram pack and a 50 gram pack en route. However I am getting a bit worried as both tracking numbers have been stuck on "origin post is preparing shipment" for 7 days now. Is this normal behavior? Everyone else is saying they got theres in a week. I usually see tracking updates which state it arrived at ISC in NY and then inbound to customs, and outbound to customs and I receive 3 days after that.... Can someone make me feel a little bit more comfortable and tell me that the origin post preparing shipment for days is normal and that USPS is just shitty sometimes with tracking?
thanks!
Mine has been stuck on "origin post is preparing shipment" for 7 days as well.
This seems fairly typical. My first order hung on Origin post but updated 12 hours before it delivered.
My second order has been stuck on this as well... order on the 4th. Oh well!
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Received a 30g order in 7 days to East USA including a weekend!! WOW
DutchTrades stealth is top notch..Actually one of the best i have received off SR... I received over 33g also +1dutch
If your currently stressed about an order just chill-out bc it will make it!
Product is tan/brown in color and past test for mdxx...
I personally havent taste tested any yet but had 5 people rolling pretty good off 120-150mg... Two of the people are experienced with SR molly and they both said it was good but not the best iv had, they said it was more speedy and there was alot of jaw clenching...+ strong shutter vision
Overall this transaction couldn't of went better!!! I will be ordering again very soon!!!
P.S. I did the regular shipping option.. No Track&Trace for me but from past experience with other German vendors it does require a signature.. Plus with 7 day shipping times theirs no time to check tracking!!!
hazed
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What's up all, I am also getting the "origin post is preparing for shipment" on my 15g order. Today is day 7 of shipping so I am expecting it to update soon. Any ideas on why this is not updating as it moves through the US? Also do you guys track your package on tor or clearnet? I always use clearnet, but I am unsure. Super stoked to get this in & reup from this vendor. Will update on arrival.... Also, any comments on whether or not I will need to sign for an envelope that will fit in my box? Just curious, thanks all! Good info in here..
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I am still waiting on the 10 grams that I ordered 11 days ago yet when prompted to resolve, my extension was denied. I haven't heard a reply to my message yet, but I would like to know whether the refund policy will be honored after 30 days.
DutchTrader declined my extension and instead offered a 5 day extension (the day auto-finalize would have released the funds).
Still not heard a word from DT which bugs me since there are just 3 days til an admin makes a decision on the resolution. I really. would feel better if DT responded.
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I am still waiting on the 10 grams that I ordered 11 days ago yet when prompted to resolve, my extension was denied. I haven't heard a reply to my message yet, but I would like to know whether the refund policy will be honored after 30 days.
DutchTrader declined my extension and instead offered a 5 day extension (the day auto-finalize would have released the funds).
Still not heard a word from DT which bugs me since there are just 3 days til an admin makes a decision on the resolution. I really. would feel better if DT responded.
They have been slow responding to me as well, new vendor though so you have to think that they are new to a lot of this. Probably a little flooded. I'll mention your case if I get in contact with them soon.
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hey all,
Just checking in here since i ordered from DT march 9.
So far it's been a good experience. I managed to fatfinger a digit in my address and luckily DT caught that and communication was superb.
Don't know why DT is not responding to elmo and whiteout, probably swanped as whiteout said. It'll be interesting to see how elmos' situation plays out.
I will report back here when i (hopefully) receive my order next week.
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5G. Ordered 3/6, transit 3/6, received 3/12. That's 6 days , including a Sunday. I am east coast USA. Was .5 over, and well packaged. Haven't dosed yet, but this shit looks, smells and taste legit. I couldn't be happier.
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Ordered 50g to central US on 3/5, marked in transit 3/5, tracking number received on 3/9.
My tracking number still isn't returning any information. Hopefully things start to pick up and I get shipping times like everyone has been reporting.
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Ordered 10g on 2/27, marked in transit 2/27. Communication with DT has been superb but the package hasn't arrived yet.
I had a sample from another vendor in Germany that was sent out several days after DT's order and I have received it 3 days ago.
I'm pretty sure it will turn out. I was just really surprised to see all the short shipping times from the reviews but it seems like my package got stock somewhere in the postal system. I'll update when it turns out. I asked DT to extend my due date in resolution but he hasn't responded yet...
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I am still waiting on the 10 grams that I ordered 11 days ago yet when prompted to resolve, my extension was denied. I haven't heard a reply to my message yet, but I would like to know whether the refund policy will be honored after 30 days.
DutchTrader declined my extension and instead offered a 5 day extension (the day auto-finalize would have released the funds).
Still not heard a word from DT which bugs me since there are just 3 days til an admin makes a decision on the resolution. I really. would feel better if DT responded.
They have been slow responding to me as well, new vendor though so you have to think that they are new to a lot of this. Probably a little flooded. I'll mention your case if I get in contact with them soon.
Today an admin resolved to give me a 22 day extension. I finally received a response from DutchTrader, but it only caused more concern. Communication with this vendor is pretty bad. <b> It looks like he not following his own refund policy!</b>
This is our convo:
Hi xxxxx,
We will extend it with 5 days.
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew 7 hours unread
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MY SECOND MESSAGE: This is my second time trying to get a hold of you. I have not received a package so I tried to make an extension, however, it was declined. I would like to know what we can do from here. The resolution center has 2 days until an admin decides what should happen, but I want to work something out with you.
Can you please respond at the very least? 21 hours read
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My FIRST MESSAGE:
Hi DT,
Your policy is as follows:
Q : Can i get a refund ?
A : If your order isn't delivered after 30 days, you will get a 50% refund in bit coins
* please check at your local post order company before you request a refund
It has not been 25 days, yet you aren't allowing more than a 5 day extension. Why?
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Im new here on the forum, i see someone else had mention if to buy from, interways or DuthTrade. i get a feeling the both have same batch ? Well i have the same problem, dont know who to choose.. someone that tried from both?
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My packages is still in Germany....wtf?
Ordered From Interway @ same time still w8....from him to....this is weird he always send lightning fast and now longer.
Any one that got something from Germany this week? Is airport open?
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Yeah, if anyone gets any updates on tracking status or receives their package, please let us know.. I just finalized and I'm really hoping I'm not out 100g.
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What's up all, I am also getting the "origin post is preparing for shipment" on my 15g order. Today is day 7 of shipping so I am expecting it to update soon. Any ideas on why this is not updating as it moves through the US? Also do you guys track your package on tor or clearnet? I always use clearnet, but I am unsure. Super stoked to get this in & reup from this vendor. Will update on arrival.... Also, any comments on whether or not I will need to sign for an envelope that will fit in my box? Just curious, thanks all! Good info in here..
Wish I saw this sooner.
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TRACK ANY PACKAGES THROUGH TOR.
This is a known LE tactic.
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What's up all, I am also getting the "origin post is preparing for shipment" on my 15g order. Today is day 7 of shipping so I am expecting it to update soon. Any ideas on why this is not updating as it moves through the US? Also do you guys track your package on tor or clearnet? I always use clearnet, but I am unsure. Super stoked to get this in & reup from this vendor. Will update on arrival.... Also, any comments on whether or not I will need to sign for an envelope that will fit in my box? Just curious, thanks all! Good info in here..
Wish I saw this sooner.
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TRACK ANY PACKAGES THROUGH TOR.
This is a known LE tactic.
Go fuck your self. I have been tracking with tor for 2 months and last tracked items from Czech Republic i did track 4-5 a day with tor...Czech Republic to Norway...got my mdma...Are you stupied to not use TOR? They log your IP and then your fucked....how can you deny that you dont know about letter when your IP has trace an drug letter?
Fucking retarded advice!
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What's up all, I am also getting the "origin post is preparing for shipment" on my 15g order. Today is day 7 of shipping so I am expecting it to update soon. Any ideas on why this is not updating as it moves through the US? Also do you guys track your package on tor or clearnet? I always use clearnet, but I am unsure. Super stoked to get this in & reup from this vendor. Will update on arrival.... Also, any comments on whether or not I will need to sign for an envelope that will fit in my box? Just curious, thanks all! Good info in here..
Wish I saw this sooner.
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TRACK ANY PACKAGES THROUGH TOR.
This is a known LE tactic.
Go fuck your self. I have been tracking with tor for 2 months and last tracked items from Czech Republic i did track 4-5 a day with tor...Czech Republic to Norway...got my mdma...Are you stupied to not use TOR? They log your IP and then your fucked....how can you deny that you dont know about letter when your IP has trace an drug letter?
Fucking retarded advice!
Hey! Fuck you. I wasn't talking about Norway. This is in reference to America you hostile slob. It's been repeated time and time again that you should absolutely NOT track your packages in TOR. If an exit node is comprised and LE see you're tracking something, they're going to look a little further into as WHY you're using something like TOR which is known for having drug mailing markets on it's network.
Maybe it's different in your country; but for America, it is a BAD idea to track your shit with TOR. If you don't believe, really I don't care. Anyone else that's questioning this I suggest you go read the shipping forum in regards to this.
Stay safe everyone!
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yeh hell russia
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It looks like DT's listings are down, so you guys were probably right, he most likely just got swamped with orders.
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What's up all, I am also getting the "origin post is preparing for shipment" on my 15g order. Today is day 7 of shipping so I am expecting it to update soon. Any ideas on why this is not updating as it moves through the US? Also do you guys track your package on tor or clearnet? I always use clearnet, but I am unsure. Super stoked to get this in & reup from this vendor. Will update on arrival.... Also, any comments on whether or not I will need to sign for an envelope that will fit in my box? Just curious, thanks all! Good info in here..
Wish I saw this sooner.
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TRACK ANY PACKAGES THROUGH TOR.
This is a known LE tactic.
Go fuck your self. I have been tracking with tor for 2 months and last tracked items from Czech Republic i did track 4-5 a day with tor...Czech Republic to Norway...got my mdma...Are you stupied to not use TOR? They log your IP and then your fucked....how can you deny that you dont know about letter when your IP has trace an drug letter?
Fucking retarded advice!
Can I ask why you started your response with go fuck yourself? Also I have been tracking through USPS, the main trick is to use different IP's such as McDonald's or Starbucks. Foolproof for the most part. Take your negativity elsewhere and don't even respond to questions if your going to go off on others.
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Just got my package. Shipped out on the 5th. Made it here today to the US. Awesome product and packaging.
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What's up all, I am also getting the "origin post is preparing for shipment" on my 15g order. Today is day 7 of shipping so I am expecting it to update soon. Any ideas on why this is not updating as it moves through the US? Also do you guys track your package on tor or clearnet? I always use clearnet, but I am unsure. Super stoked to get this in & reup from this vendor. Will update on arrival.... Also, any comments on whether or not I will need to sign for an envelope that will fit in my box? Just curious, thanks all! Good info in here..
Wish I saw this sooner.
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TRACK ANY PACKAGES THROUGH TOR.
This is a known LE tactic.
Go fuck your self. I have been tracking with tor for 2 months and last tracked items from Czech Republic i did track 4-5 a day with tor...Czech Republic to Norway...got my mdma...Are you stupied to not use TOR? They log your IP and then your fucked....how can you deny that you dont know about letter when your IP has trace an drug letter?
Fucking retarded advice!
Sorry bud, but he's right.
If you're in the US tracking your package through Tor can flag the tracking number.
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Just got my package. Shipped out on the 5th. Made it here today to the US. Awesome product and packaging.
Did you have the track and trace? How did the updating work? Also did you have to sign?
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I finally got some good information today, Do not track on Tor. YEAH
I'm out for today. Only 30+ posts to go....
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After 8 days in transit, my 100 order from DT arrived. I had selected the track and trace shipping option, but never received my tracking code, but also didn't have to sign for it which leads me to believe that DT might have messed up the shipping option on my order, no big deal really if that is case. An extra 9.7 grams was included which was extremely nice of them. Product tested great on reagents and looks to be the same fantastic quality a lot of the other German vendors have been sending out. DT has earned my trust and seal of approval. Hopefully they put up 50 gram listings soon so I can order 150 on the next round.
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I understand the idea of taking as many precautions as possible, but I haven't seen a single bit of evidence from any source that using Tor to track your package will get it "flagged." This is urban legend.
USPS has tens of thousands of tracking numbers going into their system every day and MILLIONS of people tracking their packages at the same time. If you think they've set up an entire system to weed out and identify specific tracking numbers based on Tor usage, you're fucking high. USPS barely has the resources to just maintain their basic services, and there's no fucking way they're wasting them on trying to differentiate contraband based on how the tracking is being accessed. It would require a massive manpower effort with huge numbers of false positives and plucking individual packages out of the system based on a very low percentage of success. They simply don't have the time or resources to even consider it, and that should be obvious if you think about it for half a second.
Believe all the paranoid fantasies you want, but unless you can point to some actual proof, then you need to identify your advice as "better safe than sorry" rather than something based on reality.
The only way your use of tracking could be used against you would be after the fact when you've been already been caught via a different means of identification. And if that's the case, you're more than likely already fucked and the tracking would by no means be significant evidence one way or the other.
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what i can say is, it wouldnt be a problem for the gov to setup a program that flags certain ips. and i dont think many people check their tracking numbers through tor. The longer i think about the more i think it would be a very smart thing to do for them to go after those packages. It would certainly narrow down the search. I wouldnt wanna take a chance. If there is a small chance they could, why risk it?
If u want to know it and look it up save - get a vpn + vic socks and ur all set. I would advice u guys to use that always. It can also make ur route to the tor network much better so u can surf much faster.
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My 10g order arrived to the west coast in 12 days. I must have been one of the first 100 because it came in heavy. A 12 day delivery bad at all. The stealth of the package is amazing. WAYYYYY better, 100 times better than any other package I've received before. My testing kit ran out of juice not too long ago so I can't test it but just from visual, feel, and smell alone, I'd have to say it has to be somewhat fire. My girl is planning on doing it sometime next week. Maybe my new test kit will come in then and I'd definitely update you guys with a trip report.
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I am officially sketched.
Today the resolution was to give me a 22 day extension. I finally received a response from DutchTrader, but it only caused more concern. After declining my orignal resolution to extend, he gave me a 5 day extension. I asked why, however, he only just responded AFTER I got a 22 extension about how he will only give 5 days. Communication with this vendor has been double-plus ungood. It looks like he might not follow his own refund policy,
This is our convo history starting with the most recent message at the top:
Hi xxxxx,
We will extend it with 5 days.
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew 7 hours unread
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MY SECOND MESSAGE: This is my second time trying to get a hold of you. I have not received a package so I tried to make an extension, however, it was declined. I would like to know what we can do from here. The resolution center has 2 days until an admin decides what should happen, but I want to work something out with you.
Can you please respond at the very least? 21 hours read
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My FIRST MESSAGE:
Hi DT,
Your policy is as follows:
Q : Can i get a refund ?
A : If your order isn't delivered after 30 days, you will get a 50% refund in bit coins
* please check at your local post order company before you request a refund
It has not been 25 days, yet you aren't allowing more than a 5 day extension. Why?
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I took .75 a few hours ago just to give it a little taste, and I can tell you the shit is legit. 6 days to east coast usa....um.. . wanna be my bff dutch?
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First of all wanna start say : USA and Europe is different did not think of that...sorry!
People seem to think that the authorities can check everything everywhere 24/7.
First thing:
"My address is red flagged" BULLSHIT.
"Tor red flags my letter" BULLSHIT
"My home address is markt by custom's" BULLSHIT
I have been using a address that stuff from Holland+Germany got stuck, Just got an letter from Customs they asked "Do you know something? Have you order?..I was like omg who is doing this to me? bla bla"
2 orders got stuck and 12 got to me thats AFTER 2 letter got stuck in customs.
Stop spread shit information that makes people confused :o
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party crowd aprreciated your service (even if they didnt know it was you ;D )
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First of all wanna start say : USA and Europe is different did not think of that...sorry!
People seem to think that the authorities can check everything everywhere 24/7.
First thing:
"My address is red flagged" BULLSHIT.
"Tor red flags my letter" BULLSHIT
"My home address is markt by custom's" BULLSHIT
I have been using a address that stuff from Holland+Germany got stuck, Just got an letter from Customs they asked "Do you know something? Have you order?..I was like omg who is doing this to me? bla bla"
2 orders got stuck and 12 got to me thats AFTER 2 letter got stuck in customs.
lmao. u better take ur own advice:
Stop spread shit information that makes people confused :o
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My first order of 100 grams arrived in 8 days total. Two packs, weight was 10% extra as promised! My second order of 200 grams, I have received 2/4 of the packs and weight has been spot on. The product looks fantastic and I am literally moving it as fast as it arrives in the post..I've made more in three days than I do working 6 months at my desk job!! Much fucking love DutchTrade, there will be thousands of happy people rolling at Ultra Music Festival because of you :D
I have had to sign for all packages thus far (As expected..! Don't you people know this by now?!? It's REGISTERED MAIL and Postal Service policy as far as RM is concerned) and I picked up the first two after they sat at the post office for 3 days because I was out of town.
Order from DutchTrade with the most supreme confidence.
Hook me up at UMF!! I'm traveling from NY and can't have anything on me :(
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Is dutch trade stealth good for international shipment?
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Is dutch trade stealth good for international shipment?
It is excellent
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Hey guys, Im on my 15th day In transit to the U.S (10grams)and when I check my tracking it says nothing is available yet. I messaged Dutch today about the extension but I find it strange that some people recieved it to the States in like 6-7 days and my tracking appears that It didnt even make it to the country yet. I am hoping that it is just stuck somewhere and will get here soon . Will update everyone when I hear back from Dutch and or receive my package.
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Hey, is Dutchtrade's stealth good enough to bypass roomates who bring in the mail an occasion before I can get to it?
Or is it suspicious enough that it's being "odd" and being from the netherlands will pique curiosity?
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Hey, is Dutchtrade's stealth good enough to bypass roomates who bring in the mail an occasion before I can get to it?
Or is it suspicious enough that it's being "odd" and being from the netherlands will pique curiosity?
its sent from Germany not from netherlands
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It'll appear as something you may have ordered on ebay from Germany
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It'll appear as something you may have ordered on ebay from Germany
Good good, thats exactly what I was wondering.
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Hey guys, Im on my 15th day In transit to the U.S (10grams)and when I check my tracking it says nothing is available yet. I messaged Dutch today about the extension but I find it strange that some people recieved it to the States in like 6-7 days of and my tracking appears that It didnt even make it to the country yet. I am hoping that it is just stuck somewhere and will get here soon . Will update everyone when I hear back from Dutch and or receive my package.
I'm in the same boat with a 50g order my friend, only I'm on day 12. I messaged Dutch and am waiting for a response.
What's odd is that I ordered from MarcelKetman who is also in Germany (he marked his package in transit 2 days after DutchTrade did) and I recieved his package today.
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Have not received an explanation or package yet. I'm very disappointed with the quality of communication. It has been 16 days since marked shipped.
I am officially sketched.
Today the resolution was to give me a 22 day extension. I finally received a response from DutchTrader, but it only caused more concern. After declining my orignal resolution to extend, he gave me a 5 day extension. I asked why, however, he only just responded AFTER I got a 22 extension about how he will only give 5 days. Communication with this vendor has been double-plus ungood. It looks like he might not follow his own refund policy,
This is our convo history starting with the most recent message at the top:
Hi xxxxx,
We will extend it with 5 days.
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew 7 hours unread
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MY SECOND MESSAGE: This is my second time trying to get a hold of you. I have not received a package so I tried to make an extension, however, it was declined. I would like to know what we can do from here. The resolution center has 2 days until an admin decides what should happen, but I want to work something out with you.
Can you please respond at the very least? 21 hours read
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My FIRST MESSAGE:
Hi DT,
Your policy is as follows:
Q : Can i get a refund ?
A : If your order isn't delivered after 30 days, you will get a 50% refund in bit coins
* please check at your local post order company before you request a refund
It has not been 25 days, yet you aren't allowing more than a 5 day extension. Why?
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I'm idiot ffs :-(
snow was quite bad all last week.
Hungarians had to send tanks to get people out of snow.
(I'm not connected to DT I'm just saying what I heard on news)
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Hey guys, Im on my 15th day In transit to the U.S (10grams)and when I check my tracking it says nothing is available yet. I messaged Dutch today about the extension but I find it strange that some people recieved it to the States in like 6-7 days of and my tracking appears that It didnt even make it to the country yet. I am hoping that it is just stuck somewhere and will get here soon . Will update everyone when I hear back from Dutch and or receive my package.
I'm in the same boat with a 50g order my friend, only I'm on day 12. I messaged Dutch and am waiting for a response.
What's odd is that I ordered from MarcelKetman who is also in Germany (he marked his package in transit 2 days after DutchTrade did) and I recieved his package today.
Another in the same boat here guys. I have 15g I ordered on the 8th, so I am only on day 10. Im not as worried as you two yet. But as tala1 said above me, the weather needs to be taken into consideration as well as the strikes at the airport.
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My package was sent through ------- Airport.
It was on news (Friday 15/3) that staff at ---------- airport is in strike due to wage dispute + snow was quite bad all last week.
Hungarians had to send tanks to get people out of snow.
(I'm not connected to DT I'm just saying what I heard on news)
How about you edit your post and remove the name of that airport. Your post let's any LEO on here will know where our shit is going through.... Fucking A man....
Take this shit DOWNNNNNNNNN
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also there has been bad snow in Germany the past few days and roughly 80 flights were cancelled at ******* airport so that could delay shit for a couple days
EDIT your post man. No helping LEO on where to look... Damn.
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Hi guys ,
As you all know it is spring break time! Our packing/shipping guys are going on spring break vacation for a week, therefor we won't be taking any new orders this coming week (starting from last Saturday, but will be online to answer emails.
We're sorry for this inconvenience, but we will be happy to take your order again next week.
Due to this inconvenience, our SPECIAL OFFER OF 10% EXTRA WILL BE EXTENDED!!!
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew
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Hi guys ,
As you all know it is spring break time! Our packing/shipping guys are going on spring break vacation for a week, therefor we won't be taking any new orders this coming week (starting from last Saturday, but will be online to answer emails.
We're sorry for this inconvenience, but we will be happy to take your order again next week.
Due to this inconvenience, our SPECIAL OFFER OF 10% EXTRA WILL BE EXTENDED!!!
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew
Nice to see you all back on the forums, you should really try to spend more time here imo because this is where your customer base is reputably established. I am not saying that to you guys in particular but to any vendor reading this.
Thanks for the updates though. Generous of you to offer 10% extra on the next orders that come in after the break.
Any word on why me and some other of the members are still seeing the "origin post is preparing for shipment" message and still appearing to be in Germany? Upon reading others experiences I have seen that these are not updating until hours before actual arrival. While this is not your fault you may want to inform people who are using the Track and Trace option.
I am only on day 10 to US so I am confident that my order will arrive tomorrow or the next couple of following days based on what others are reporting.
Thanks DutchTrade!
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update: Dutch has agreed to a 10 day extension on my order . I assume it will arrive this week. One thing I can assure people is that international mail is unpredictable, even though some people may recieve their order in 6 days others will have to wait close to 3 weeks... The mail service is far from a perfect train-wreck. I have no doubt everyones packages will reach their destinations and we will all be smiles when we drop that first 150mg :).
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Any word on why me and some other of the members are still seeing the "origin post is preparing for shipment" message and still appearing to be in Germany? Upon reading others experiences I have seen that these are not updating until hours before actual arrival. While this is not your fault you may want to inform people who are using the Track and Trace option.
I am only on day 10 to US so I am confident that my order will arrive tomorrow or the next couple of following days based on what others are reporting.
Thanks DutchTrade!
I wish mine said that much, mine just reads "No information could be found regarding the mail item".
Hopefully the snow is what is messing up the post, even though the snowstorm was 5 days ago.
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My package was sent through ------- Airport.
It was on news (Friday 15/3) that staff at ---------- airport is in strike due to wage dispute + snow was quite bad all last week.
Hungarians had to send tanks to get people out of snow.
(I'm not connected to DT I'm just saying what I heard on news)
How about you edit your post and remove the name of that airport. Your post let's any LEO on here will know where our shit is going through.... Fucking A man....
Take this shit DOWNNNNNNNNN
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update: Dutch has agreed to a 10 day extension on my order . I assume it will arrive this week. One thing I can assure people is that international mail is unpredictable, even though some people may recieve their order in 6 days others will have to wait close to 3 weeks... The mail service is far from a perfect train-wreck. I have no doubt everyones packages will reach their destinations and we will all be smiles when we drop that first 150mg :).
LOL
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hey everyone just following up with a trip report on this bomb.com mdma from DT
me and my friend went to our first rave..so why not go with the best mdma?
we each took 170mg to start at about 630
at around 710 little effects were starting to creep in
730 these 2 swedish djs were playing and we were reaching our peak
8=peak omg..these chicks are hot af everyones loving eveyone
as this is my first rave..everything is just fucking amazeballs. haha
peeps asking me for molly..idk where that hoe is. get your own.
around 930 we drop another 110mg to stay where we are at...then artsy starts to play omg."this must be the love they speak of" made my night.'
i needed to go to rehab...
then 'running germany' starts playing so good never thought id see him live.
effects lasted until around 1am where we left the venue because we didnt want to
get swamped in traffic to leave. (good idea.friends said it took about 2 hours to leave the lot)
thanks a FUCKload DT. i need to move this shit fast so i can hop on 20grams :)
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I'M REALLY REALLY SORRY FOR MY RETARDED POST :-(
Post has been edited and lesson learned :-(
FFs my brain was up in my arse, just wanted to help nothing else :-/
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Wait so reading through this thread has brought my attention to both a strike and a snowstorm. Does this mean there'll be delays in shipping if we ordered to the U.S. recently?
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Wait so reading through this thread has brought my attention to both a strike and a snowstorm. Does this mean there'll be delays in shipping if we ordered to the U.S. recently?
Supposedly.
But I ordered something else from Germany that was shipped 2 days after my order with DutchTrade and received that order on Saturday.
I hope my tracking number starts showing activity this week.
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Wait so reading through this thread has brought my attention to both a strike and a snowstorm. Does this mean there'll be delays in shipping if we ordered to the U.S. recently?
Likely, depends how recently...
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Dutch Trade, So to clarify, if a person ordered before you pulled the listing, will that person's pack get mailed right now or after the break?
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Got DT:s mdma i order 10 gram hoping for 11 grams :) Dont have a scale right now.
Gr8 stealth! 6,5 days to an other EU country.
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needed to post
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Fuck, day 10 and still didn't see my 15g's today, also my shipping hasn't updated a bit.... :-[
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Good god German tracking sucks.
14 days since "In transit" and 10 days since receiving the code and my tracking hasn't even shown that it even is associated with a package in existence.
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Any word on why me and some other of the members are still seeing the "origin post is preparing for shipment" message and still appearing to be in Germany? Upon reading others experiences I have seen that these are not updating until hours before actual arrival. While this is not your fault you may want to inform people who are using the Track and Trace option.
I am only on day 10 to US so I am confident that my order will arrive tomorrow or the next couple of following days based on what others are reporting.
Thanks DutchTrade!
This same thing happened to me recently from two different vendors coming from German with along the same lines of stealth-it just said "origin post is preparing shipment" and then like that, the same day it was in my area it updated, forgoing the ISC sorting center update which I have been used to with international orders. All went smoothly for me, so I would not panic about it quite yet.
Shit had me 'noid, but when I updated it early in the morning I knew it was going to be delivered that same day-and the only other notification I got was that it was leaving Germany (this is to the US)
Hope this helps. Just stay up on the tracking, as safe as possible, and have faith. Dutch seems to be a standup vendor, so there is no cause for alarm.
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My tracking was stuck on "Origin post is preparing for shipment" for the first 10 days. On the 11th day it updated and showed US entry, and then on the 12th day was delivered.
Dutch definitely needs to update his vendor and product pages to clarify that Track/Trace requires signature in the US. Not a big deal for me, but some people freak out about it.
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Good god German tracking sucks.
14 days since "In transit" and 10 days since receiving the code and my tracking hasn't even shown that it even is associated with a package in existence.
17 days here and that is exactly how mine is too, If only their tracking was as good as their cars...
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Put in my order for a few days ago with DutchTrade.
I notice he posts on this review thread more then most vendors. Maybe it is just because he is new, but it is nice to see a vendor paying attention
The only problem is the German post which is not his fault. Plus customs can hold onto things for a while. I have waited over 30 days including weekends for supplies from Europe to USA. But it sounds like DutchTrade is quicker then that.
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Any word on why me and some other of the members are still seeing the "origin post is preparing for shipment" message and still appearing to be in Germany? Upon reading others experiences I have seen that these are not updating until hours before actual arrival. While this is not your fault you may want to inform people who are using the Track and Trace option.
I am only on day 10 to US so I am confident that my order will arrive tomorrow or the next couple of following days based on what others are reporting.
Thanks DutchTrade!
This same thing happened to me recently from two different vendors coming from German with along the same lines of stealth-it just said "origin post is preparing shipment" and then like that, the same day it was in my area it updated, forgoing the ISC sorting center update which I have been used to with international orders. All went smoothly for me, so I would not panic about it quite yet.
Shit had me 'noid, but when I updated it early in the morning I knew it was going to be delivered that same day-and the only other notification I got was that it was leaving Germany (this is to the US)
Hope this helps. Just stay up on the tracking, as safe as possible, and have faith. Dutch seems to be a standup vendor, so there is no cause for alarm.
At least the DHL tracking is unreliable as it gets :D I've ordered PC hardware from mindfactory.de on numerous occasions and sometimes the tracking pops up at my country's post service's system before the German system has updated.
One time I waited for 2 weeks for some parts and I was hitting refresh on the German tracking site twice a day and it was not updating at all only to find that my shipment had been at my local post office already for a week... I was not at home at the time to receive the note in post to pick it up.
have you guys tried putting the tracking code into your own country's post tracking service?
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UPDATE!
My package was updated as "arrival at unit"
Not currently home to check but I would bank everything is in there just fine and dandy!
Will update when I find out more!
Thanks all, no worries with this vendor at all!
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The quality is also very good, for anyone questioning that at this point. 5/5 all the way around for this great vender.
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Received a 30g order in 7 days to East USA including a weekend!! WOW
DutchTrades stealth is top notch..Actually one of the best i have received off SR... I received over 33g also +1dutch
If your currently stressed about an order just chill-out bc it will make it!
Product is tan/brown in color and past test for mdxx...
I personally havent taste tested any yet but had 5 people rolling pretty good off 120-150mg... Two of the people are experienced with SR molly and they both said it was good but not the best iv had, they said it was more speedy and there was alot of jaw clenching...+ strong shutter vision
Overall this transaction couldn't of went better!!! I will be ordering again very soon!!!
P.S. I did the regular shipping option.. No Track&Trace for me but from past experience with other German vendors it does require a signature.. Plus with 7 day shipping times theirs no time to check tracking!!!
hazed
^^^^^^UPDATE:^^^^^^
As you can see all over this thread DT has his shipping & communications down!!! And the price is nothing to complain about either!!
I just wonted to post a quick update about the quality of Dutchtrades Mdma, Im not posting a whole trip report because im lazy, but i do have experience with alot of different SR mdma vendors over the years .......
The batch that I received looked brown/tan while sealed in the vacuum bag but after opening it and dosing out alot of capsules i notices its mostly white with a tan hue.. That being said it is still darker in color than any other mdma iv received off SR... I tested the mdma when it first arrived and it passed marquis nicely (only test i had available at the moment)... After giving out some average dosed (150mg) to close friends that have SR mdma experience i was a little worried that the quality wouldn't compare to previous vendors...
SO this weekend i taste tested some myself...I only had one does of 150mg with 1000mg magnesium which is a good test point for me, and i will say that this is good strong mdma...
-Started feeling first effects in average time (20-30min)..
-The come-up was very strong, (had me laying down in front of my home stereo speaker while my eyes were shuttering all over), but the come-up didnt seem to last very long (sry i cant be more precise)...
-After the come-up i remember plateauing for a hour or so which was real nice but this is when i noticed a pretty strong jaw lock...It wasnt the worst iv had but it was pretty strong for only one dose...I also was having a hard time reading my phone or watching tv because my eyes were outta focus/shuttering..
-The ride down was smooth but had a small speedy/tweaky feeling to it...After a xanxa sleep was no issue..
- The next day i felt fine but i contribute that to only taking one dose and not redosing my serotonin away like iv been know to do...
Conclusion:
This is mdma and is very good mdma for the price..I felt it lacked in the empathy department and was a little speedier than iv grown accustom to lately, but would be good in a concert/club setting... I will be placing another order as soon as these kids get off spring break...lol...
2TheHaters:
It may sound like im trying to down grade DT's molly and this is not the case... SR has spoiled me sense iv been here with high quality mdma and i now feel like i can tell a difference in effects from different vendors or batches...And i am just trying to do my part in these forums with honesty..
(Everyone locally loves it and its selling faster than bitcoins are fluctuating)....... Im only pointing out my experience with it and how it compares in quality to vendors from my past (dopeboy, PF, AF, SKY, Dutchaanbod, Etc....)
hazed
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Just went over to my drop house today and there was a slip there for the package which showed up yesterday, 3/18. Couldn't sign for it today so I'll be back to update again when it gets picked up tomorrow.
What's odd is that the Post Office slip has the tracking number that Dutch gave me right on it, but when I check it online it still displays "No information could be found regarding the mail item". No information from USPS either. So basically the tracking was completely worthless.
Another amazing shipping time of 11 post office days, marked in transit on 3/5 and received 3/18.
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Just went over to my drop house today and there was a slip there for the package which showed up yesterday, 3/18. Couldn't sign for it today so I'll be back to update again when it gets picked up tomorrow.
What's odd is that the Post Office slip has the tracking number that Dutch gave me right on it, but when I check it online it still displays "No information could be found regarding the mail item". No information from USPS either. So basically the tracking was completely worthless.
Another amazing shipping time of 11 post office days, marked in transit on 3/5 and received 3/18.
good man glad to hear you got it... unfortunately Iv yet to receive mine which was marked in transit 3/2 . I have the exact same tracking issues and i am prayinggg it gets here by friday.!
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Got my order some days ago, did not test it sold it ASAP :)
Had 11 grams, i wanna know how much its for 100 gram?
I wrote to DT they are so slow to replay :)
Stealth is epic :) could not tell difference from a regular ************* you know the stealth :)
100% pro!
Plz replay to me with your cost for 100 grams in Dollars :)
Here is my history:
status: finalized
buyer: **************
seller: DutchTrade(100)
item: 10 gr high grade MDMA 80%+
quantity: 1
shipping: TrackTrace
postage: $7.43
total price: $215.52
ordered: March 11, 2013, 12:46 am UTC
shipped: March 12, 2013, 2:40 pm UTC
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Rickard, you can change your SR settings to display products in $ rather than btc. Just go to account settings. I can't express my happy levels with DutchTrade right now. Can't wait for DT spring break to end.
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Got my order in 6 days to east U.S. Very fast. Great stealth. Will update with more information on product weight and quality when possible.
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Ordered 10g on 2/27, marked in transit 2/27. Communication with DT has been superb but the package hasn't arrived yet.
I had a sample from another vendor in Germany that was sent out several days after DT's order and I have received it 3 days ago.
I'm pretty sure it will turn out. I was just really surprised to see all the short shipping times from the reviews but it seems like my package got stock somewhere in the postal system. I'll update when it turns out. I asked DT to extend my due date in resolution but he hasn't responded yet...
Quick update on my order. Still nothing..... Today is the 3 week mark. :(
Still have hope though as I had packages from Datchaanbod take up to 45 days in the past.
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Ordered 10g on 2/27, marked in transit 2/27. Communication with DT has been superb but the package hasn't arrived yet.
I had a sample from another vendor in Germany that was sent out several days after DT's order and I have received it 3 days ago.
I'm pretty sure it will turn out. I was just really surprised to see all the short shipping times from the reviews but it seems like my package got stock somewhere in the postal system. I'll update when it turns out. I asked DT to extend my due date in resolution but he hasn't responded yet...
Quick update on my order. Still nothing..... Today is the 3 week mark. :(
Still have hope though as I had packages from Datchaanbod take up to 45 days in the past.
You and me both brotha, my tracking has shown nothing either which makes it completely pointless if nothing shows up because what proof would I have showing that it didnt arrive if the tracking doesn't even register that anything was sent out in the first place. Im hoping it has something to do with my package being stuck somewhere but seeing that some people received their order in 6 days to the U.S makes me worry. ughhh this shit always fucking happens to me.
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Hey guys. So I put in order in for 10g on March 7th. Got marked in transit March 8th with Track and Confirm. My tracking has updated to show that it has gone through a sorting facility in Germany (3/14). I'm going to assume that because of the insane shipping times my package will be arriving this week or early next week! Going to keep my fingers crossed.
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Welcome :)
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Hello all,
I am still reeling from what the postman delivered today.
Suffice to say i got more than the "free 10% for the first bunch of orders"..
You guys cannot imagine how happy i am right now.. and i havent even tried it yet.
Fucking amazing..
Packaging - i have mentioned this before... its also double vaccum sealed.
Communication - I placed the order, confirmed that i was eligible for the 10% free, and sat and waited.. patiently..
Delivery - 12 days to asia. In comparison, orders from germany would earlier take over 20 days.
Quality : I have tasted a tiny crystal, to confirm the bitter taste of molly. very Faint smell of safrole.. Lot of big rocks.. One weighed in at 0.57 gm alone!
Others ranged from 450mg to 240 mg.
Lots of rocks, some powder and gravel.some of the bigger rocks have a greyish tone to them.
I will try to put pictures of the rocks in a few hours, situation permitting.
All in all, dealing with this vendor has been nothing but a pleasurable experience.
highly(no pun intended) recommended..
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Got my 50g in today. 12 days in transit. Tracking didn't update from German sorting center until this morning.. But mostly decent sized grey purplish rocks and some powder not much. Stealth is above average. Communication was great. Product looks great. Overall I'm ordering another 100 when listing are back. Cheers.
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Got my 5gram order today, roughly 7 days. Pretty good stealth too, I consider it a free gift.
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Dutchtrade is LEGIT!!!
Got my order in 7 days(usa)! As others have already stated, and I myself must chime in as well because not only did I LOL, but was happier than a fat kid eating birthday when I saw the stealth! I was even happier when I saw the quality of the product, which weighed out as advertised. I'll report back once I get a chance to fully test the product this weekend. Big ups to you my man!
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I was able to do marquis reagent test today and the results were positive for MDMA. It went straight to black almost instantly! As for a trip report; I had 3 individuals orally ingest 100mg with a 50 mg bump up the nose and they said it was fire. I would upload a picture but I don't know how to keep it anonymous (meta data?). If anyone can guide me I'd appreciate it.
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heres a pic of the product that was shipped around 2 weeks ago
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8fq.jpg
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heres a pic of the product that was shipped around 2 weeks ago
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8fq.jpg
You have made me a happy man, my product has arrived but I haven't had a chance to go pick it up! Nice to know what to look forward to!
Thanks for all the updates guys! DutchTrade is reallly taking off here!
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Ordered 10 grams + the 10% extra
Shipping took 7 days(not including a sunday) from time marked in transit to south west us
Received 10.82 grams - a bit short :(, about 20% powder, 50% small chunks and 30% big chunks with the biggest chuck weighed in at .42 grams
reagent tested great
Overall excellent and will be back with big orders without any hesitation
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Pictures for anyone who wants to take a check out the product
http://gaigetech.com/srf/up/7c21ead842e4965de20ec65e8a7fed08.JPG
http://gaigetech.com/srf/up/73a393e3daf556abdec24a94693055f6.JPG
http://gaigetech.com/srf/up/e088aa32b2299825fdcfc03a308f1ba2.JPG
http://gaigetech.com/srf/up/612dd52aea9b0ec64f646587b7f24fdf.JPG
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With much disappointment, I find myself finally joining the forums to post about a less than good experience.
My delivery strategy relies on not having to sign for a package. DT's profile explicitly stated that with the quantity I was ordering, no signature would be required. I'm also EU, so the problems that the Americans posting in this thread have had about signing for being added on shouldn't apply. The parcel eventually came, and the delivery man was not the regular one, and he was asking for a signature in the name sent to. This set off alarm bells, and I said that the recipient didn't live there any more. However, reading the thread, I'm now thinking that maybe this wasn't a controlled delivery, and that DT actually did send via registered postage. So I have now potentially rejected a normal delivery, on the basis of DT's shipping not being as advertised.
What should I do? I feel a little hard done-by taking a hit on this, I would expect a vendor to follow their advertised policy. In addition I have tried to contact them, the message has been read for quite a while but there hasn't been any reply. I feel it's unfair that I might have to choose between the two bad options of either finalising payment and receiving nothing, to protect my buyer statistics, or possibly accepting a 50% refund, which also doesn't look too great for me.
I'm posting to ask for advice on how to proceed, maybe prompt DT to respond to me (I've since filed a request to extend auto-finalization in the hope that they resend the package to me), but also just to make other buyers aware that DT don't seem to be following their advertised policy, and to take that into account when considering purchasing.
Until now I've had nothing but good experiences with other vendors on Silk Road, it's quite disheartening to be coming to the forums for the first time with this!
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I'm now on day 9 since it was marked in transit. The resolve button will be active in about 24 hours. I've never had to resolve any orders because I always order domestically or from Canada, so when do I hit resolve? Once it becomes available, or should I wait until around day 11-12?
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You can wait until there are only a couple of days left before auto finalisation.
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I'm now on day 9 since it was marked in transit. The resolve button will be active in about 24 hours. I've never had to resolve any orders because I always order domestically or from Canada, so when do I hit resolve? Once it becomes available, or should I wait until around day 11-12?
mate be patient your only on day 9 you have obviously until 17 days before auto finalization so wait till at least day 15 and hit up for an extension.all these people who received their orders super fast are just lucky i guess,mine took 8 days so dont worry youll get it.
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With much disappointment, I find myself finally joining the forums to post about a less than good experience.
My delivery strategy relies on not having to sign for a package. DT's profile explicitly stated that with the quantity I was ordering, no signature would be required. I'm also EU, so the problems that the Americans posting in this thread have had about signing for being added on shouldn't apply. The parcel eventually came, and the delivery man was not the regular one, and he was asking for a signature in the name sent to. This set off alarm bells, and I said that the recipient didn't live there any more. However, reading the thread, I'm now thinking that maybe this wasn't a controlled delivery, and that DT actually did send via registered postage. So I have now potentially rejected a normal delivery, on the basis of DT's shipping not being as advertised.
What should I do? I feel a little hard done-by taking a hit on this, I would expect a vendor to follow their advertised policy. In addition I have tried to contact them, the message has been read for quite a while but there hasn't been any reply. I feel it's unfair that I might have to choose between the two bad options of either finalising payment and receiving nothing, to protect my buyer statistics, or possibly accepting a 50% refund, which also doesn't look too great for me.
I'm posting to ask for advice on how to proceed, maybe prompt DT to respond to me (I've since filed a request to extend auto-finalization in the hope that they resend the package to me), but also just to make other buyers aware that DT don't seem to be following their advertised policy, and to take that into account when considering purchasing.
Until now I've had nothing but good experiences with other vendors on Silk Road, it's quite disheartening to be coming to the forums for the first time with this!
Dutch needs to put a disclaimer on his vendor page and on his product pages that a signature MAY BE REQUIRED. I don't think he's responsible for trying to relay the signature information for every country out there, but putting that general disclaimer out there will help.
At the same time, you don't deserve any refund at all, as it's your own fault for refusing the delivery. Your delivery "strategy" failed. Dutch did not. If you're not prepared to possibly sign for a package, then don't order.
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HEY HO HEY
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DT was professional, fast and gave extra +1
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I'm now on day 9 since it was marked in transit. The resolve button will be active in about 24 hours. I've never had to resolve any orders because I always order domestically or from Canada, so when do I hit resolve? Once it becomes available, or should I wait until around day 11-12?
mate be patient your only on day 9 you have obviously until 17 days before auto finalization so wait till at least day 15 and hit up for an extension.all these people who received their orders super fast are just lucky i guess,mine took 8 days so dont worry youll get it.
Yea man 9 days is nothing... im on 21 days an still nothing in the mail today.
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I'm now on day 9 since it was marked in transit. The resolve button will be active in about 24 hours. I've never had to resolve any orders because I always order domestically or from Canada, so when do I hit resolve? Once it becomes available, or should I wait until around day 11-12?
mate be patient your only on day 9 you have obviously until 17 days before auto finalization so wait till at least day 15 and hit up for an extension.all these people who received their orders super fast are just lucky i guess,mine took 8 days so dont worry youll get it.
Yea man 9 days is nothing... im on 21 days an still nothing in the mail today.
I wasn't trying to sound impatient, I have no problem waiting. Like I said, I have never had to use the resolve button, so I was sort of unsure as to how it works. Hoping everyone's packs come in quick and fat!
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I ordered from DutchTrade like 3 weeks ago and it's been marked in transit for over 2 weeks now... How long do his orders typically take to get to the US?
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Placed an ordr for 100g mdma from DutchTrade 11 days ago now to Ireland and still no delivery, the tracking details he supplied too are also not giving me any info,
I will not be FE'ing and will be resolving this as ive had delays from the same country before, then again ive had bigger deliveries from the same country that arrive in 4-5, im suspicious i gotta admit.
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Dammit! I was so sure it was gonna be in the mail today, but no deal.
On day 13 to west coast US.
Germany did get hit with some snow right after I ordered and that might have slowed things down a bit.
I'll keep y'all posted.
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Wow after reading the first 2 pages i was convinced that this is the deal I've been looking for. Then I skipped to page 17 and I'm back to the drawing board
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OI keep us posted mate
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I ordered from DutchTrade like 3 weeks ago and it's been marked in transit for over 2 weeks now... How long do his orders typically take to get to the US?
So your around 14 days in transit to the US? What side? West? I am right in the middle and mine took around 11 days so your not too far over.
Placed an ordr for 100g mdma from DutchTrade 11 days ago now to Ireland and still no delivery, the tracking details he supplied too are also not giving me any info,
I will not be FE'ing and will be resolving this as ive had delays from the same country before, then again ive had bigger deliveries from the same country that arrive in 4-5, im suspicious i gotta admit.
11 days to Ireland isn't too long mate, just give it time... 100g is a lot on the line but I am fairly sure yours will arrive without any problems.... Just be patient man! I know it's hard when all that weight is on the line...
Wow after reading the first 2 pages i was convinced that this is the deal I've been looking for. Then I skipped to page 17 and I'm back to the drawing board
DutchTrade is a standup vendor, just because a few people are getting slower than usual ship times means nothing. Our postal system is far from perfect, as far as I am concerned find another vendor so I can scoop up all of these cheap, good quality rocks!!! :P
Also to everyone wondering, yes you do have to sign for track and trace... DutchTrade's stealth is awesome so I wasn't worried the least. One thought for all of the people with delayed orders, maybe you weren't home when you were required to sign... Try checking the shipping info and see if it might be at your local office!
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I ordered from DutchTrade like 3 weeks ago and it's been marked in transit for over 2 weeks now... How long do his orders typically take to get to the US?
So your around 14 days in transit to the US? What side? West? I am right in the middle and mine took around 11 days so your not too far over.
Placed an ordr for 100g mdma from DutchTrade 11 days ago now to Ireland and still no delivery, the tracking details he supplied too are also not giving me any info,
I will not be FE'ing and will be resolving this as ive had delays from the same country before, then again ive had bigger deliveries from the same country that arrive in 4-5, im suspicious i gotta admit.
11 days to Ireland isn't too long mate, just give it time... 100g is a lot on the line but I am fairly sure yours will arrive without any problems.... Just be patient man! I know it's hard when all that weight is on the line...
Wow after reading the first 2 pages i was convinced that this is the deal I've been looking for. Then I skipped to page 17 and I'm back to the drawing board
DutchTrade is a standup vendor, just because a few people are getting slower than usual ship times means nothing. Our postal system is far from perfect, as far as I am concerned find another vendor so I can scoop up all of these cheap, good quality rocks!!! :P
Also to everyone wondering, yes you do have to sign for track and trace... DutchTrade's stealth is awesome so I wasn't worried the least. One thought for all of the people with delayed orders, maybe you weren't home when you were required to sign... Try checking the shipping info and see if it might be at your local office!
I wasn't trying to insult him or his customers but when a new user reads a whole page full of negativity It can turn a potential customer off. Shit If I see people gettin their packages then your damn right Ima be gettin them cheap rocks too :) I'm just noid
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Ordered 10g on 2/27, marked in transit 2/27. Communication with DT has been superb but the package hasn't arrived yet.
I had a sample from another vendor in Germany that was sent out several days after DT's order and I have received it 3 days ago.
I'm pretty sure it will turn out. I was just really surprised to see all the short shipping times from the reviews but it seems like my package got stock somewhere in the postal system. I'll update when it turns out. I asked DT to extend my due date in resolution but he hasn't responded yet...
Quick update on my order. Still nothing..... Today is the 3 week mark. :(
Still have hope though as I had packages from Datchaanbod take up to 45 days in the past.
Received my package today. Stealth is great just as everyone described here. Weighted in at 10.86gr, a good mixture of bigger rocks, smaller crystals and powder. Tastes right. :)
Not sure why it took longer (I'm in Mid US) but I will definitely be placing a bigger order once the listings are up. Thanks DT!!!
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Haha rightfully so man, Im glad we have world class drugs here because god knows we have world class paranoia!
Nah, in all actuality this bad feedback is all on one page because these are all people with delays and are just now checking in because they have been waiting thus far...
I have confidence that DT will deliver, but then again no vendor is perfect and who knows.... I highly doubt it but, Maybe these people will never receive theirs but only time will tell!
I don't think that's the case though, I see DT prospering quite well, personally!
On a side note anyone know what day DT will have his new listing up. Spring break is almost over!
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Ordered 10g on 2/27, marked in transit 2/27. Communication with DT has been superb but the package hasn't arrived yet.
I had a sample from another vendor in Germany that was sent out several days after DT's order and I have received it 3 days ago.
I'm pretty sure it will turn out. I was just really surprised to see all the short shipping times from the reviews but it seems like my package got stock somewhere in the postal system. I'll update when it turns out. I asked DT to extend my due date in resolution but he hasn't responded yet...
Quick update on my order. Still nothing..... Today is the 3 week mark. :(
Still have hope though as I had packages from Datchaanbod take up to 45 days in the past.
Received my package today. Stealth is great just as everyone described here. Weighted in at 10.86gr, a good mixture of bigger rocks, smaller crystals and powder. Tastes right. :)
Not sure why it took longer (I'm in Mid US) but I will definitely be placing a bigger order once the listings are up. Thanks DT!!!
That's great to hear DJ! I'm stoked for you.
I wasn't really stressing yet, but all these reports of 8 days and less to ship all over the US definitely had me scratching my head.
Good for those of us still waiting, to hear of a three weeker coming in.
Enjoy!
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Everyone chill out on the skepticism.
A) The tracking never worked for me, even after I picked my package up from the post office. So don't get paranoid about the tracking.
B) Shipping from this location can take some time. His stealth is pretty damn good, so these packages aren't likely to get discovered at all.
Just give it some time like we all end up doing anyways.
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A friend of mine has some of the mdma with him at a party and the people there are reporting nothing but great things about the quality.
I'm not sure if any of these people have experience with SR mdma, but I definitely do so I'll be back with a roll report within a week.
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So what's the deal?
Do you have to sign for DT's shipments or not? Does the package fit into the mailbox? Does he use Mylar, Moisture barrier bags or foil bags for packaging?
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So what's the deal?
Do you have to sign for DT's shipments or not? Does the package fit into the mailbox? Does he use Mylar, Moisture barrier bags or foil bags for packaging?
It appears that people who picked track and trace have to sign for the shipment. I didn't pick that option and just got it in my mailbox.
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So what's the deal?
Do you have to sign for DT's shipments or not? Does the package fit into the mailbox? Does he use Mylar, Moisture barrier bags or foil bags for packaging?
It appears that people who picked track and trace have to sign for the shipment. I didn't pick that option and just got it in my mailbox.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
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I sold a gram to a friend yesterday. He and several other friends divided the bag into either 5 or 6 piles and ingested it. (So assuming equal divisions, we're talking either 166mg or 200 mg).
Maybe an hour later I get a text saying something along the lines of "Holy shit this stuff is amazing."
This friend has had stuff that I tested to be very potent before so he knows what he's talking about. DT seems to be quality.
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Monday will be two weeks in transit for my one gram order. Any one else in Canada experiencing shipping times this long?
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Update on my order. Marked in transit 3/1 and as of today 3/24 nothing has came nor has any tracking activity appeared in the German site nor the USPS site. It makes me wonder if Dutch even added the tracking option to my parcel. I know hes a standup vendor and everyone else is getting their goods but if nothing comes next week I am going to have to assume something happened to the package and a resolution will be at hand... I really hope he will reship me another order because in the end all i want is this fire ass molly! This is the first time I would have not received a package from SR so please please gods of the shipping world, delivery my package to me this week so I can stop freaking out here.
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Update on my order. Marked in transit 3/1 and as of today 3/24 nothing has came nor has any tracking activity appeared in the German site nor the USPS site. It makes me wonder if Dutch even added the tracking option to my parcel. I know hes a standup vendor and everyone else is getting their goods but if nothing comes next week I am going to have to assume something happened to the package and a resolution will be at hand... I really hope he will reship me another order because in the end all i want is this fire ass molly! This is the first time I would have not received a package from SR so please please gods of the shipping world, delivery my package to me this week so I can stop freaking out here.
Sorry to hear this mate... We all know DT is a standup vendor but I am anxious to see how your case resolves if you don't receive... But a vendor is only as good as his customer service! Ready to see how this pans out...
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They're back! Place those orders my friends! I just placed an order for 10 grams 8) we'll see how this goes.
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UPDATE!
Ordered 3.12
Shipped 3.12
Arrived 3.25 8)
I'm working today and get a call from my roommate that I have received a package from Germany, we all knew what was coming. This post comes minutes after I have weighed out my 10+g, (10.85), and just yet, I could not be happier. As far as time, I would have liked it by this past weekend but 13 days international, I can't complain. Stealth? Run of the mill, I would say, but definitely more secure than any domestics I've gotten. Product? Beautiful moon rocks and sand! The taste test will wait til the other roomies can join in.
I'm as ecstatic as I expected to be when I ordered. I'm probably the most giddy person on SR right now.
Thank you Dutch!
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BEST OF LUCK
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Got my order today and all I can say is WOW! 33.75 grams, almost all rocks, most of which are in the .3-.8 range, up to about 1.5g. Straight to black with the Mecke test, plus a little fizzle and a wisp of smoke! Stealth is sufficient. Double vac sealed and concealed in a manner similar to that of vendors who had impeccable success rates for delivery. And I think the slight difference might actual add a little to this tested method. Just under two weeks from hitting the order button until delivery to the western US. From a quick glance it looks like shipping times might be slowing down a bit. I'm going to have read through the last few pages of forums just to see what the status of all that really is. If the posts are as I expect them to be (anxious customers biting their nails together for 23.75 between deliveries, which I TOTALLY understand), I'll be placing another order tomorrow.
I personally can't test it for at least a couple of weeks. But I should have taste tests from trustworthy friends no later than the weekend and will report back with results. THANK YOU DUTCHTRADE.
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Im still waiting on my 100g MDMA sent over 2wks ago to Ireland :( the tracker i got is absolutely useless information too so i will not auto finalize in 3 days, ill open a resolution, i still have faith though Ive experienced these delays before from the same country.
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so i took a bomb of 280mg at a friends house on Saturday night and i have to say the stuff hit the spot,plenty of shite talking was done,eyes couldnt focus too well and only a slight bit of jaw clenching took another .200 bomb sometime sunday morning and brought me into more of a trance but inside my head i was loving it.went home 3pm sunday afternoon hit the bed for a few hrs had some dinner then bed again and woke up this morning feeling rather fresh.my only side effect was i couldnt take a piss till monday morning but i think we've all been there before..also a friend of mine was sniffing some then bombed 200mg and he was talking about completely different things than the rest of us.iv only seen him do that once before after a long break.and another friend (who has been blessed with the gift of never building a tolerance by the almighty himself) took a 100mg bomb which put him in his own wee world on the floor for roughly 6hrs.
bare in mind my tolerance is unfortunately high and if i had of took 350mg to start i reckon i would have had been floored so i thought it was the best iv had in a while and judging by my friends it was.and for that price wow.so thats my mini trip report and all in all DT gets an A-OK from me 8)
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so i took a bomb of 280mg at a friends house on Saturday night and i have to say the stuff hit the spot,plenty of shite talking was done,eyes couldnt focus too well and only a slight bit of jaw clenching took another .200 bomb sometime sunday morning and brought me into more of a trance but inside my head i was loving it.went home 3pm sunday afternoon hit the bed for a few hrs had some dinner then bed again and woke up this morning feeling rather fresh.my only side effect was i couldnt take a piss till monday morning but i think we've all been there before..also a friend of mine was sniffing some then bombed 200mg and he was talking about completely different things than the rest of us.iv only seen him do that once before after a long break.and another friend (who has been blessed with the gift of never building a tolerance by the almighty himself) took a 100mg bomb which put him in his own wee world on the floor for roughly 6hrs.
bare in mind my tolerance is unfortunately high and if i had of took 350mg to start i reckon i would have had been floored so i thought it was the best iv had in a while and judging by my friends it was.and for that price wow.so thats my mini trip report and all in all DT gets an A-OK from me 8)
those seem to be some high doses! well, except for your friend.
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ordered from DT about 3 weeks ago
a day after he confirmed transit
and i am expecting it tommorrow
cause i ordered from another vendor the same day and its same country
i live East coast USA and
my other order came today so im looking forward
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UPDATE!
Ordered 3.12
Shipped 3.12
Arrived 3.25 8)
I'm working today and get a call from my roommate that I have received a package from Germany, we all knew what was coming. This post comes minutes after I have weighed out my 10+g, (10.85), and just yet, I could not be happier. As far as time, I would have liked it by this past weekend but 13 days international, I can't complain. Stealth? Run of the mill, I would say, but definitely more secure than any domestics I've gotten. Product? Beautiful moon rocks and sand! The taste test will wait til the other roomies can join in.
I'm as ecstatic as I expected to be when I ordered. I'm probably the most giddy person on SR right now.
Thank you Dutch!
And here we are. Me and the roommate couldn't wait for the others so here's my mid-trip report!
My only time frame is thanks to the stopwatch app on my phone I started when I dosed.
My friend, we'll call him Tricky Dick, and I each took similar doses. Me, 120mg, and he 100mg. I mixed mine in with about 8oz (America haha) water and Tricky Dick lined it up and snorted it. The reason he dosed nasally was because in our previous experience snorting would just things rolling faster. So when I took my water I expected to be lagging behind my friend for at least 30 minutes. That was hardly the case, where I could tell he was getting effect within 10 minutes, he claims 15 minutes was when it legitimately commenced. After smoking a bowl I arose to grab something and once I moved, on 15 minutes, I noticed that..glow in the back of your throat/near the spinal cord. I've never tried to articulate the sensation but it was only up from there. From there, Tricky Dick and I have been on the same pace 2 hours into it. The first wave of roll was so, so, so sweet. Reality intruded a bit when we made a trip to the store for a vicks vapo-stick and when we returned I noticed a distinct sense of increased, lucidity, my shutter vision had chilled THE FUCK OUT, and I consciously made another mark at 1 hour 10 minutes, but fuck five minutes later I got goin again! Here we are 2 hours 22 min into the roll and I'm still floating above clouds. We'll probably re-dose relatively soon buut so far, fucking magnificent. I'm only sad that SR is still down for maintenance so I can't finalize soon enough!
Dutch, I love you man, woman, you fucking guys!
And to the rest of you:
ORDER! ORDER! ORDER!
But most of all, though I may be new to the SR, I've heard about how good vendors get fucked and scammed, thus making them themselves shady selective scammers, and in the end no one gets fucked but us. So please, respect, cherish, and nurture DutchTrade.
Now that's the molly talking..
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Im still waiting on my 100g MDMA sent over 2wks ago to Ireland :( the tracker i got is absolutely useless information too so i will not auto finalize in 3 days, ill open a resolution, i still have faith though Ive experienced these delays before from the same country.
Looks like were in the same boat here bro. Keep us posted on how yours goes and I will do the same!
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Im still waiting on my 100g MDMA sent over 2wks ago to Ireland :( the tracker i got is absolutely useless information too so i will not auto finalize in 3 days, ill open a resolution, i still have faith though Ive experienced these delays before from the same country.
Looks like were in the same boat here bro. Keep us posted on how yours goes and I will do the same!
Damn LuckyPunk, this delay is really making your punk unlucky! lmao
But seriously, I hate to hear this about you two, like I mentioned earlier please keep us updated on how this is handled.
Hope the best to you all! I am likely placing my 100g order from DT based on how this is dealt with...
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Just how long can it take for a package to come to finland ? It`s been marked trancit 03/12 and nothing has been showed up yet...
Tomorrow it´s only 3 days to auto-finalize, so I will pull the resolve button tomorrow if the package doesn`t come with tomorrows mail...
Any body have experience ordering to finland ?
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Just placed an order. Will post complete review once received and tested.
Thanks DT
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those seem to be some high doses! well, except for your friend.
yea man i took slightly too much of the stuff in the past and its caught up with me...its a god damn curse i tell you.
dont let my doses put anyone off DT's gear the stuff rocks
also what sp3ct3r said..respect DT and he shall prevail
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Nothing today either, tracking info is still useless, please please come though Dutchtrade!! im going into resolution, its only fair, You my boy DT!
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Order shipped early Friday (10 days ago) and I have a feeling it will be here tomorrow or the next day. Usually German post takes this long to get to where I am anyways (or a little longer). On another note...
I am really psyched about this vendor. Prices were unreal upon launch, 212 for 10gs which I pulled the trigger on 3 times at once. Looks like he bumped up his prices but there still about 50 less than anyone else.
It looks like if this order comes through ill be ordering a lot more until someone can even start to compare to this vendors supposed quality and price.
Looking forward to having a lot of extra income this summer, and a lot of happy friends.
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Subscribed.
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The first transactions for new vendors especially from the Holland area are usually the best! I would go for it if I needed more product right now
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subbed.
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
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Still waiting on a 20g pack to mid USA, this has been day 13, hopefully just a little delayed and will receive it soon. Vendor has been very communicative and made a 10 day extension in resolution center.
Will update upon arrival, fingers crossed its here soon!
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Im still waiting on my 100g MDMA sent over 2wks ago to Ireland :( the tracker i got is absolutely useless information too so i will not auto finalize in 3 days, ill open a resolution, i still have faith though Ive experienced these delays before from the same country.
Looks like were in the same boat here bro. Keep us posted on how yours goes and I will do the same!
Damn LuckyPunk, this delay is really making your punk unlucky! lmao
But seriously, I hate to hear this about you two, like I mentioned earlier please keep us updated on how this is handled.
Hope the best to you all! I am likely placing my 100g order from DT based on how this is dealt with...
Thanks for your support White Out. This is the first time i havent received a package on SR , I msged Dutch about coming to a resolution and getting another shipment sent out as soon as possible... my bday in two weeks and was counting on already having molly here for a wild night in Atlantic City. but so far no molly :(. Thanks again for the sympathy, now bring on the EMPATHY pleaseeeee hahaha :p
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**Update on order
in transit 3/1
package never arrived... i really have no explanation for what could of happened, like iv said this is the first package on SR that iv never received.
Dutch is so awesome, he agreed to work out a GREAT resolution
New order is on the way (different location though), I requested tracking but im unsure if it will make a difference or not :p.
Overall I am very satisfied with Dutch's customer service, I hope they are here to stay.
Will keep the forum posted on when I receive the new order
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**Update on order
in transit 3/1
package never arrived... i really have no explanation for what could of happened, like iv said this is the first package on SR that iv never received.
Dutch is so awesome, he agreed to work out a GREAT resolution
New order is on the way (different location though), I requested tracking but im unsure if it will make a difference or not :p.
Overall I am very satisfied with Dutch's customer service, I hope they are here to stay.
Will keep the forum posted on when I receive the new order
Nice! I am super stoked to hear this! I love when vendors really have their customer service together. A lot of times their actual vending is so good that when something does go wrong they don't pay much attention to it since everything else is going great... Not the case here though!
Also, if you don't get it by your birthday keep in mind MollyExpress can get a G to you in two days domestic but its pricier. Not trying to steal DT business but mollyexpress has the domestic shit down!
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**Update on order
in transit 3/1
package never arrived... i really have no explanation for what could of happened, like iv said this is the first package on SR that iv never received.
Dutch is so awesome, he agreed to work out a GREAT resolution
New order is on the way (different location though), I requested tracking but im unsure if it will make a difference or not :p.
Overall I am very satisfied with Dutch's customer service, I hope they are here to stay.
Will keep the forum posted on when I receive the new order
Wow, good to hear. I guess that's the next best thing to actually getting your gear:)
Sadly, I'm still waiting for mine but I haven't given up hope just yet as it has (only) been 13 working days.
I'd really hate to not receive this, as this is my first order worth a significant (to me) amount of money, my stats would take a hit and I was hoping on doing a bunch more business with DT who is clearly everything one could hope for in a vendor.
Fingers crossed, knock on wood etc.
I'll update soon.
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Placed a 20g order last night, I'll update when i receive the package (shipped to US).
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First post in the forums for me. I ordered 10g and was marked in transit mar 12. Shipping it to west coast us. I keep thinking it will be here tomorrow each time i checked the check the mail since all those posts of people getting theirs in 8 or 9 days. Will update when it arrives or god forbid coming to an agreement if it doesn't show up. Really hoping this doesn't happen since it will kill my stats :(
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First post in the forums for me. I ordered 10g and was marked in transit mar 12. Shipping it to west coast us. I keep thinking it will be here tomorrow each time i checked the check the mail since all those posts of people getting theirs in 8 or 9 days. Will update when it arrives or god forbid coming to an agreement if it doesn't show up. Really hoping this doesn't happen since it will kill my stats :(
Hey man your only at like 11 or 12 business days. it seems most people in the U.S are getting theirs between 9-15 days. No need to panic bud. I do however understand your need to vent about it! Its amazing how satisfying the need for reiteration and reassurance can be lolz.
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linking here to a review:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1006.msg949266#msg949266
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Subbing
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Dutch is still doing the extra 10% right now, correct? He said after break he'd continue it a bit longer-getting my coin together today but really need that extra 10% as he promised, it's just no longer on his page. Can anyone who's talked to him gimme some feedback about this, I don't feel it necessary to fill his inbox with questions like this when he's trying to deal with so many custies at once
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DutchTrade is the man! Great quality, ordered 5 and got 5.8. Quick delivery and stealth was fine.
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Hello and welcome
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Subbing, planning on placing an order very soon :)
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First post in the forums for me. I ordered 10g and was marked in transit mar 12. Shipping it to west coast us. I keep thinking it will be here tomorrow each time i checked the check the mail since all those posts of people getting theirs in 8 or 9 days. Will update when it arrives or god forbid coming to an agreement if it doesn't show up. Really hoping this doesn't happen since it will kill my stats :(
Hey man your only at like 11 or 12 business days. it seems most people in the U.S are getting theirs between 9-15 days. No need to panic bud. I do however understand your need to vent about it! Its amazing how satisfying the need for reiteration and reassurance can be lolz.
Yea it does make you feel better lol. Nothing came in today but i feel confident it will in the next few days. Damn U.S. customs lol
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what is packaging like can you tell theres powder inside I don't want anyone I live withrealiseing whats inside
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what is packaging like can you tell theres powder inside
NO
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
Pulled the trigger on a 50g pack today...
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what is packaging like can you tell theres powder inside
NO
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Still haven't got my 100g, nor is any of the tracking info giving me anything. hmmmmmmmm
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My 5grams to the EC USA made it in 13 days. Reagent tested perfect.
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Still haven't got my 100g, nor is any of the tracking info giving me anything. hmmmmmmmm
Hey mate, not updated on your situation but, when did you order? None of anyone Else's shipping updated at all until the day of delivery!
They deliver! Keep up TJR!
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Got my notice its at the post, will edit this post and update when I try it on monday.
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Hey all. Just a quick update on our dealings so far w/ dutch. we'll make a proper write-up in a couple days. Placed a test order for 10 grams in the A.M., was shipped same day. Arrived 6 days later in wonderful stealth, and overweight as promised. Reaction to the three wise-men was absolutely beautiful, with great reports from testers. Ordered 100 grams with track and trace, received tracking number 16! hours later.
TL;DR Stealth, communication, speed, and most importantly, product, are all the best experience we've had to date. We will update when the 100 pack arrives.
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After 17 worrisome days, my 20g pack has arrived to the mid US. Will update with weight, quality and packaging stealth when I collect it. Thanks DT!
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Over 2 weeks to US with 4 days of that being weekend. Waiting patiently. Hoping to see the pack in the near future.
He recently inserted " (work) " immediately before days on his vendor profile. That being the case I suppose I've just recently entered the delivery window... I wish that had been posted prior to me ordering. Never the less, I look forward to the package and expect great things.
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Over 2 weeks to US with 4 days of that being weekend. Waiting patiently. Hoping to see the pack in the near future.
He recently inserted " (work) " immediately before days on his vendor profile. That being the case I suppose I've just recently entered the delivery window... I wish that had been posted prior to me ordering. Never the less, I look forward to the package and expect great things.
Im in the same boat, man. Trying to keep faith that it's still coming! Its funny how some people got theirs in under two weeks. I guess they were the lucky ones, right?
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Mine arrived overnight. Another reason for living in liberal Europe.
Stuff is top notch.
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Just ordered 10g, largest order on the Road yet. Hoping it arrives before my mate's birthday on the 14th, can't wait. Definitely report back when it lands ;D
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Reviews are coming in and this stuff is fire.
Ordered 10 g and got 10.8. already sold off all but 1.5.
People are telling me this shit is incredible, even some people that have gotten really pure shit from me before.
While typing this, someone just texted me that they're rolling harder than ever before.
Worth the buy guys.
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subbed
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Hmm, DT told me in a pm 2 weeks ago that they use MBBs, however a customer I PMed told me he uses just normal vacuum bags.
Is DT's packaging at the same level as the "new standards" require? By packaging I don't mean stealth, I mean the bags it is sealed in.
Please read this thread! http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
MDMA needs to be packaged in foil or moisture barrier bags because dogs love it the most!
Also who the hell has left this kind of feedback? "2 of 5 big cristals but it smells dont like mdma .." Do we really have people this retarded among us?
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My first order of 100 grams arrived in 8 days total. Two packs, weight was 10% extra as promised! My second order of 200 grams, I have received 2/4 of the packs and weight has been spot on. The product looks fantastic and I am literally moving it as fast as it arrives in the post..I've made more in three days than I do working 6 months at my desk job!! Much fucking love DutchTrade, there will be thousands of happy people rolling at Ultra Music Festival because of you :D
I guess the Miami police didn't do undercover and bust sellers. If they had then they would have caught a lot of people that would have gone to jail for a lot of years.
I'm assuming everything worked out for you.
I'd like to go next year but haven't figured out how to get my MDMA/MDA down there 100% safely.
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Also who the hell has left this kind of feedback? "2 of 5 big cristals but it smells dont like mdma .." Do we really have people this retarded among us?
I just saw that myself and was wondering the same thing. I guess the post below yours answers that question.
Still waiting for mine btw.
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its amazing the expectations of people, they don't have a clue
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No more 10g listing..?
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My first order of 100 grams arrived in 8 days total. Two packs, weight was 10% extra as promised! My second order of 200 grams, I have received 2/4 of the packs and weight has been spot on. The product looks fantastic and I am literally moving it as fast as it arrives in the post..I've made more in three days than I do working 6 months at my desk job!! Much fucking love DutchTrade, there will be thousands of happy people rolling at Ultra Music Festival because of you :D
I guess the Miami police didn't do undercover and bust sellers. If they had then they would have caught a lot of people that would have gone to jail for a lot of years.
I'm assuming everything worked out for you.
I'd like to go next year but haven't figured out how to get my MDMA/MDA down there 100% safely.
I do all my business before the festival, and enjoy the atmosphere without vending once I am there. I find that people who try to mix business with pleasure go down hard. Everything couldn't have worked out any better.
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Unfortunately the slip my post had was not for my package from Dutch. I fe-d for him when I got the slip to pick it up at the post. Hopefully the package will make it here, I wanted to give Dutch the money since I was so confident it was the package. My bad. Ugh. Anyways it's like day 15, including weekends
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Hmm, DT told me in a pm 2 weeks ago that they use MBBs, however a customer I PMed told me he uses just normal vacuum bags.
Is DT's packaging at the same level as the "new standards" require? By packaging I don't mean stealth, I mean the bags it is sealed in.
Please read this thread! http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
MDMA needs to be packaged in foil or moisture barrier bags because dogs love it the most!
Also who the hell has left this kind of feedback? "2 of 5 big cristals but it smells dont like mdma .." Do we really have people this retarded among us?
anyone can confirm or deny this? hopefully someone with high karma too :)
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For those of you who have gotten the 5 gram listing I was just wondering if it is small enough to fit into an apartment postbox. My postbox can easily fit a magazine sized package.
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For those of you who have gotten the 5 gram listing I was just wondering if it is small enough to fit into an apartment postbox. My postbox can easily fit a magazine sized package.
Absolutely
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hmm
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was all set to order the 10g listing and now see its gone. wtf is that all about?? has anybody sent him a message asking why and when it will be back up? i guess i will be the one to bother him if nobody else has an answer soon.
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was all set to order the 10g listing and now see its gone. wtf is that all about?? has anybody sent him a message asking why and when it will be back up? i guess i will be the one to bother him if nobody else has an answer soon.
order two 5g listings then...
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Its a $30 difference, but I actually messaged him today about it and he replied saying that it was a mistake and he was going to put back up. But I still dont see it
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Its a $30 difference, but I actually messaged him today about it and he replied saying that it was a mistake and he was going to put back up. But I still dont see it
I thought DT was just raising prices in general due to popularity/having good reviews now.
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I'm about to take the plundge and buy 50 grams of mdma from him. I just need some word on the quality, is it really over 80% pure?
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whoever said this "Amazing quality! Came in great discreet packaging. Weighed right with its 10% added. Smelled dank. 12 days in transit. Warning: Track and trace does require a signature though." please explain
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whoever said this "Amazing quality! Came in great discreet packaging. Weighed right with its 10% added. Smelled dank. 12 days in transit. Warning: Track and trace does require a signature though." please explain
It wasn't me, but based on what everyone in the US has been saying, the tracking option DOES require a signature. Not sure about other countries. This seems to have been the case from when the first tracked order from DT was sent out, so it doesn't seem to be that big of an issue. It's not as though all of a sudden signatures became a requirement. I'm personally hesitant to place a large order because of this requirement, but it hasn't been an issue for many others.
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Does DT use MBB?
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Still nothing off these guys, my 100g order was supposedly dispatched on march 11th to Ireland Im well into the extended resolution time and the tracker info is still as useless as ever, every day that goes past makes me doubt its sent as ive got plenty of product from other countries since.
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Would love to try your US based stuff. Eager to try!
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Can anyone comment on successful large shipments to the US? Any input from DutchTrade?
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Alright so I got a tracking number.
I was wondering if Im doing this right?
After searching, the German post says this...
"No information could be found regarding this mail"
Am I doing this right?
Thanks,
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whoever said this "Amazing quality! Came in great discreet packaging. Weighed right with its 10% added. Smelled dank. 12 days in transit. Warning: Track and trace does require a signature though." please explain
It wasn't me, but based on what everyone in the US has been saying, the tracking option DOES require a signature. Not sure about other countries. This seems to have been the case from when the first tracked order from DT was sent out, so it doesn't seem to be that big of an issue. It's not as though all of a sudden signatures became a requirement. I'm personally hesitant to place a large order because of this requirement, but it hasn't been an issue for many others.
+1 thanks; i just got caught up reading the vendor page saying no sign was needed, but did read that some users said sign was required so just wanted clarification.
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Just wanted to chime in with my experience so far with DT. I received my 10g order in roughly 2 weeks, packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road. No doubts that your packages will come. Once I cut into the package I instantly got a whiff of that nice molly smell. Product came with about 50/50 powder and crystal chunks. The only test I have right now is a small (probably 50mg) bump mixed with some Charlie, but that had me feeling great for about 3 hours. I'm sure everyone is going to love this stuff.
Just put in another order for 10g, hoping it gets here for Coachella!
Recommend DT 100%
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...packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road.
Could you clarify, if DT was using MBB or not?
Thanks for your time.
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...packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road.
Could you clarify, if DT was using MBB or not?
Thanks for your time.
No MBB, just the standard vac seal bag.
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...packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road.
Could you clarify, if DT was using MBB or not?
Thanks for your time.
No MBB, just the standard vac seal bag.
Thanks Tiger, much appreciated.
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I rolled for the second time in my life off of DT's stuff and DAMN that shit was good! I got a gram and tried .2g and friends loved it also. Great product for such a good price. This stuff lasted about 4 hours for me but "to each his own" tolerance.
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Still nothing off these guys, my 100g order was supposedly dispatched on march 11th to Ireland Im well into the extended resolution time and the tracker info is still as useless as ever, every day that goes past makes me doubt its sent as ive got plenty of product from other countries since.
Have people from the United States had any issues?
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Just ordered 10 g, will report back when i get it :)
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Still nothing off these guys, my 100g order was supposedly dispatched on march 11th to Ireland Im well into the extended resolution time and the tracker info is still as useless as ever, every day that goes past makes me doubt its sent as ive got plenty of product from other countries since.
Have people from the United States had any issues?
I had one order that made it through with no problems within 2weeks to the usa a few weeks back!!! I enjoyed the order so much im currently waiting on another pack!!!
I have alot of faith in dutch!!
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Order shipped Friday march 15. Looks like it would be morning in Amsterdam when shipped. So let's assume nothing happened until that Monday the 18th. As of April 2 still waiting on package to USA. But looks like I am still in the shipping time frame.
Vendor looks legit, and it has taken 3-4 weeks in the past when I used a vendor from this part of the world.
Can anyone comment on signatures? I did not select track and trace option but my order is for 30g. Will it be left at my door? I have a small mail box, maybe a bit smaller then the average US box.
It will scare the shit out of me to have to sign for it. Could be a controlled delivery.
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Alright so I got a tracking number.
I was wondering if Im doing this right?
After searching, the German post says this...
"No information could be found regarding this mail"
Am I doing this right?
Thanks,
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Alright so I got a tracking number.
I was wondering if Im doing this right?
After searching, the German post says this...
"No information could be found regarding this mail"
Am I doing this right?
Thanks,
Yeah likely, look go on chrome and translate it. When your pack makes its way towards US it will say blah blah inbound for US customs blah blah some shit somewhere. This could take a while before it says this but when it does you can be assured its entering the US soon.
You can keep checking it through USPS but like I said before it is useless until the day of delivery, then it updates all of a sudden.
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I'm really new to Silk Road and have been searching for some quality MDMA. After a few hours of searching for a legit vendor I've come to try out DutchTrade. Great prices and seems very professional. I look forward to doing business with you very soon DT!
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Still nothing off these guys, my 100g order was supposedly dispatched on march 11th to Ireland Im well into the extended resolution time and the tracker info is still as useless as ever, every day that goes past makes me doubt its sent as ive got plenty of product from other countries since.
Have people from the United States had any issues?
Yes, I'm currently still waiting for my non tracked order which was marked in transit on 3.11, so still well within the delivery time stated in his terms and conditions.
But as you can see from DTs' feedback and the reviews in this thread I'm the exception
I have been communicating with DT as needed and have no doubt that they will make things right if my shipment is a no-show.
I'll be posting here as things develop.(Hopefully those developments consist of a package in my mailbox this week:)
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Has anyone had any problems receiving packages?
Any love letters from DEA?
Im in USA and wonder about overall risk with this vendor
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...packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road.
Could you clarify, if DT was using MBB or not?
Thanks for your time.
No MBB, just the standard vac seal bag.
Big turn off. Dogs can smell through normal food grade PE-bags in a matter of hours. If you use normal bags, it's the same that you would just pack them in ziplock bags.
"VAC SEALING A BAGGIE OF ANYTHING IS NOT STEATH.
After 15 minutes of vac sealing, a PE vac sealed bag is vapour permeable, and detectable by sniffer dog.
F-i-f-t-e-e-n M-i-n-u-t-e-s.
Now I realise that vapour permeability is not the only important factor, but it's THE MOST IMPORTANT. If a dog singles out a group of packages, the chances of you package being seized is 1000 times higher than it not."
I'm sure DutchTrade is doing a great job. I will be hitting buy as soon as he get's some proper bags!
Dutch if you are reading this. Normal vacuum bags are ok as long as you use a mylar, foil or MBB bags on top of that! Please check out this thread! http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
I am not here to make your business bad. I wish the best for you and I hope that you consider stepping up the bag quality a bit. The better the packaging = The less seized orders = The happier customers = The better for business
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bump
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Alright so I got a tracking number.
I was wondering if Im doing this right?
After searching, the German post says this...
"No information could be found regarding this mail"
Am I doing this right?
Thanks,
Yeah likely, look go on chrome and translate it. When your pack makes its way towards US it will say blah blah inbound for US customs blah blah some shit somewhere. This could take a while before it says this but when it does you can be assured its entering the US soon.
You can keep checking it through USPS but like I said before it is useless until the day of delivery, then it updates all of a sudden.
Thanks White 0ut.
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...packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road.
Could you clarify, if DT was using MBB or not?
Thanks for your time.
No MBB, just the standard vac seal bag.
Big turn off. Dogs can smell through normal food grade PE-bags in a matter of hours. If you use normal bags, it's the same that you would just pack them in ziplock bags.
"VAC SEALING A BAGGIE OF ANYTHING IS NOT STEATH.
After 15 minutes of vac sealing, a PE vac sealed bag is vapour permeable, and detectable by sniffer dog.
F-i-f-t-e-e-n M-i-n-u-t-e-s.
Now I realise that vapour permeability is not the only important factor, but it's THE MOST IMPORTANT. If a dog singles out a group of packages, the chances of you package being seized is 1000 times higher than it not."
I'm sure DutchTrade is doing a great job. I will be hitting buy as soon as he get's some proper bags!
Dutch if you are reading this. Normal vacuum bags are ok as long as you use a mylar, foil or MBB bags on top of that! Please check out this thread! http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
I am not here to make your business bad. I wish the best for you and I hope that you consider stepping up the bag quality a bit. The better the packaging = The less seized orders = The happier customers = The better for business
Ah, I have been waiting for someone to post this as I have not really wanted to type it all out!
I second this completely, +1!
I will take up for dutch in saying that he doesn't only use just a vac seal and throw it in the box lmao...
There is a little more to it than you know really.
But I still agree with you man, I won't likely be reordering until they use MBB. It's not a hard thing to do as a vendor at all, especially when you have the money to do it!
DutchTrade follow the advice above please!
@EcstacyDude, no problem! You know where to find me if you have any other questions my old friend.
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...packaging is on point with a few other vendors I've used on the Road.
Could you clarify, if DT was using MBB or not?
Thanks for your time.
No MBB, just the standard vac seal bag.
Big turn off. Dogs can smell through normal food grade PE-bags in a matter of hours. If you use normal bags, it's the same that you would just pack them in ziplock bags.
"VAC SEALING A BAGGIE OF ANYTHING IS NOT STEATH.
After 15 minutes of vac sealing, a PE vac sealed bag is vapour permeable, and detectable by sniffer dog.
F-i-f-t-e-e-n M-i-n-u-t-e-s.
Now I realise that vapour permeability is not the only important factor, but it's THE MOST IMPORTANT. If a dog singles out a group of packages, the chances of you package being seized is 1000 times higher than it not."
I'm sure DutchTrade is doing a great job. I will be hitting buy as soon as he get's some proper bags!
Dutch if you are reading this. Normal vacuum bags are ok as long as you use a mylar, foil or MBB bags on top of that! Please check out this thread! http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
I am not here to make your business bad. I wish the best for you and I hope that you consider stepping up the bag quality a bit. The better the packaging = The less seized orders = The happier customers = The better for business
I agree MBB's should be used, but what you are saying is wrong.
You are fear mongering people. There is a old thread on here where a guy tests all of the different packaging techniques with a real drug dog.
I personally have been lucky enough to know a person who has a retired drug dog and I have tested everything against it. If the mdma is tripple vaccuum sealed it should be good for weeks. I will say though that when I tested the MBB literally the dog never smelled even two months later.
I used the 3m 2700 bag for that.
I will say if your order has been in transit for 2 weeks or more get that tin foil hat on.
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^^^ whats the metaphor behind the tin hat ? lol
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Placed an order for 50 grams. Will report back.
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^^^ whats the metaphor behind the tin hat ? lol
It's the go to image of paranoia, blocking out all "their" brainwave reading technology.
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dt rocks 10 days till it was at my door
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Just placed an order and will update once received. Haven't bought mdma since PF!!
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placing an order as soon as coins transfer over from blockchain
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I wish people would say where they live when they tell us how long it took to be delivered :/ If if you don't want to put too fine a point on it, western europe/central europe, etc. would really help.
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I wish people would say where they live when they tell us how long it took to be delivered :/ If if you don't want to put too fine a point on it, western europe/central europe, etc. would really help.
You could even just say the hemisphere.
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Re-posting as a follow-up to my pack being received.
COMMUNICATION:
Not much needed, but vendor answered my questions in a timely manner.
TIME:
Took total of 17 days to the Land of Liberty, vendor marked in-transit on the correct day, according to the postage on the package. Did NOT require a signature with the "Worldwide" option. I believe the "Track & Trace" method requires a signature.
WEIGHT:
Ordered 20g + 10%, received 21.91g, which is a great fucking deal for how much I paid!
PRODUCT:
Product is about 60% chunks/rocks, 40% powder, with a few large rocks here and there. Has a clear/white consistency with a few darker patches and random off-color chunks.
TEST:
Don't have a Marquis/Mecke, but taste tested a little bit and its very bitter! Delightfully disgusting, just how good MDMA should be 8)
PACKAGING:
I'm going to be THAT guy who bitches about the packaging. I really think this method is over-used, it is nearly identical to Dutchaanbod's and ST's method, and could be improved by using MBB/Mylar bags and adding more layers. Nevertheless, it made it through and I can't claim it was seized for lack of protection.
COMMENTS:
DT is a great vendor, he actually ships when marked in-transit, and the product looks fire. Shipping was a little slow, but it made it! My only advice would be to personalize/add to the packaging a little bit. One of the best vendor's I've ever dealt with, highly recommend!
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Thanks sir!
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Nice review
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Let's trade some dutch! ??? ??? ??? ???
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So i picked up my order from the post office yesterday after receiving a note saying that the postman missed me and to pick it up the following day. Don't pick track and trace if shipping to usa. You WILL have to sign for it and it doesn't even work. The status of my order never updated from when it was leaving germany to when it was at my door step. It was 3 weeks to the date from when i put in my order to the day i picked it up(shipped to west coast usa). I ordered 10g and it weighed in at 10.85 and it smells on point! Product is light tan color and turns a grey/white color when crushed to powder. It was about 60% rocks/small crystals with the heaviest at .5. The packaging was okay and it made it over just fine but like people have been saying it is not in a mbb or anything like that. Just plain old vacuum seal. Its not just thrown in a box though but it could be upgraded a little. Not trying to put DT down at all though cause it did make it over just fine and would not be worried to order again. I haven't had the chance to test the product yet but i have no doubt that this is fire.
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I agree MBB's should be used, but what you are saying is wrong.
You are fear mongering people. There is a old thread on here where a guy tests all of the different packaging techniques with a real drug dog.
I personally have been lucky enough to know a person who has a retired drug dog and I have tested everything against it. If the mdma is tripple vaccuum sealed it should be good for weeks. I will say though that when I tested the MBB literally the dog never smelled even two months later.
I used the 3m 2700 bag for that.
I will say if your order has been in transit for 2 weeks or more get that tin foil hat on.
I'm sorry :( I really don't mean to scare anyone away and I appreciate your input on this matter.
But yes, the 3m Dri-Shield is basically the same as welding the shipment inside a lump of steel. Absolutely no chance of smell if the sealing is done properly. IMHO all self-respectful vendors should step up the packaging the tiny bit up and standardize on foil, mylar or MBB (MBB being the best option). It basically renders the sniffer dogs useless. Making detection possible only by irregularities shown on possible x-ray or closer inspection (opening the letter, which is very uncommon and illegal in some parts of the world).
While DT's packaging method most likely is pretty ok. It can always be improved with a layer of MBB. It's only around a dollar more per shipment to apply that layer of "true stealth". DT could be the new number one MDMA German vendor if he just puts that tiny little investment into mastering the package. (the additional cost of MBB can be implemented into the shipping price)
My Source of info:
Testing made by Thisaintme
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33755.msg384857#msg384857
"MDMA:
Dog went wild on this, I think it was his favourite:
1 layer: both 15 min
2 layer: 1st 15min, 2nd 1 hour
3 layers: 1st not after 5 days, 2nd after 24 hours."
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I am not here to make your business bad. I wish the best for you and I hope that you consider stepping up the bag quality a bit. The better the packaging = The less seized orders = The happier customers = The better for business
I agree MBB's should be used, but what you are saying is wrong.
You are fear mongering people. There is a old thread on here where a guy tests all of the different packaging techniques with a real drug dog.
I personally have been lucky enough to know a person who has a retired drug dog and I have tested everything against it. If the mdma is tripple vaccuum sealed it should be good for weeks. I will say though that when I tested the MBB literally the dog never smelled even two months later.
I used the 3m 2700 bag for that.
I will say if your order has been in transit for 2 weeks or more get that tin foil hat on.
I'm sorry :( I really don't mean to scare anyone away and I appreciate your input on this matter.
But yes, the 3m Dri-Shield is basically the same as welding the shipment inside a lump of steel. Absolutely no chance of smell if the sealing is done properly. IMHO all self-respectful vendors should step up the packaging the tiny bit up and standardize on foil, mylar or MBB (MBB being the best option). It basically renders the sniffer dogs useless. Making detection possible only by irregularities shown on possible x-ray or closer inspection (opening the letter, which is very uncommon and illegal in some parts of the world).
While DT's packaging method most likely is pretty ok. It can always be improved with a layer of MBB. It's only around a dollar more per shipment to apply that layer of "true stealth".
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Dude your comment has what you said in a quote with my name on it???
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Dude your comment has what you said in a quote with my name on it???
Check it out again :) I made a mistake when slicing away some of the quotes :) No need to down karma :D
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Don't worry I won't neg. I never neg anyone on here no matter what.
+1 my man
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+1 to both of you for resolving the matter in a civilized way!
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As legit as it can get !
Shippting time: 2 days domestic.
Product looks and smells promising. Stealth is nice and has been seen on the silkroad already.
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Received order from DT :
TIME: It's not good to be specific but I'd say it was good (aprox 1 week to EU). Just order well in advance if anything. Tracks don't really work, expected better service from such a country but w/e.
WEIGHT: overweight by 10%. For a first order I can only applause.
PRODUCT: mmm that good smell of fresh md... some big crystals, some smaller ones and some powder. Pretty standard. By the looks and smell I don't even have to try it to know it is bomb. Clear/white crystals is what you should be looking for. Will be back for trip report.
PACKAGING: good, very pro. Ok for EU and small orders. But PLEASE USE MBB DT!
COMMENTS: Awesome vendor. Will be extremely successful if continues like this. No FE for 1st order on SR. This is real business. Only thing would be use of MBB.
PEACE and thanks DT
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ps: I just brought the MBB issue to DT's attention, with links and all. Hope he takes heed.
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+1 for MBBs.
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Three Weeks and still no package to US. :/ Checking the mail daily.
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Same here, just auto finalized a couple days ago when i thought a slip meant it was here.
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so from what people are saying is the tracking doesnt work?
ive learned to always order with tracking and that is what i did yesterday
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Just received my second order from Dutch and I have to say that he's a great vendor. The only concern I have is the packaging. Upon inspection, I could hear the rocks rattling around inside the package. It was only vacuum sealed a single time and the bag actually had some holes in it due to the friction created from the crystals. In fact, due to this, some of the powder had leaked out inside the packaging. I could actually smell it upon tearing open the package. I really like using this vendor a lot but if a sniffer dog took a whiff of this package, I believe it would have easily been discovered.
Dutch, could you please at the very least double or triple seal your bags so there is no leaking. Or in lieu of this, please use the MBBs in addition to a single vacuum seal... I really think this would be the best option and if you did it I think hands down you would be the best Dutch vendor here on the road.
Thanks though for an otherwise perfect transaction.
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anyone know why 50g mdma and 250 speed are the only options being listed?
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Still nothing off these guys, my 100g order was supposedly dispatched on march 11th to Ireland Im well into the extended resolution time and the tracker info is still as useless as ever, every day that goes past makes me doubt its sent as ive got plenty of product from other countries since.
Hmmm, I just noticed you mentioned your order was dispatched march 11. Thats when my package was marked in transit also.
Maybe a tight day at the outgoing airport in Germany?!?
Guess we'll never know.
Gonna give it a couple more days and see what DT and I can come up with in case of a no-show.
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Just to keep the forum updated. I ordered 2 packs of ten g's each roughly 21 days ago....
Dutch sent me a message saying he combined the packs and sent them to one address. Now let me just say this, I paid for seperate shipping on them for a reason. Now I've yet to receive anything. I've sent him a msg stating this but no response yet. I have seen crazy shit before as far as timing goes. Can anyone comment if dutchs stealth is on par with misterm100? That is fucking incredible stealth. Hopefully I change my tune when it arrives but at this point I'm going into tinfoil hat mode.
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"When we come back online we start with bulk orders MDMA listings and we want to improve our stealth. During the time we're offline all your messages will be read and answered. "
fap fap fap fap fap fap fap!
finally
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why havent you said anything !? i ordered and my order was canceled without a message. ordered a second time because i thougt it was my fault cause i had tor connection problems at the first time and send a message. second order was canceled, too. only after the second order you took out your listings.. with the 2 canceled orders i lost 0.2 btc. i complained in a second message that i lost those btc's. no statement from dutchtrade..
thank you ! :-\
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Like most vendors I am sure DT is very busy. Sometimes they don't have the time to reply to every little message. So far DT seems like he answers more often then some other vendors from that part of the world.
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Man i can't wait for the new listings :D
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Just to keep the forum updated. I ordered 2 packs of ten g's each roughly 21 days ago....
Dutch sent me a message saying he combined the packs and sent them to one address. Now let me just say this, I paid for seperate shipping on them for a reason. Now I've yet to receive anything. I've sent him a msg stating this but no response yet. I have seen crazy shit before as far as timing goes. Can anyone comment if dutchs stealth is on par with misterm100? That is fucking incredible stealth. Hopefully I change my tune when it arrives but at this point I'm going into tinfoil hat mode.
his stealth is more like
dutchaanbod/interways
while what i hear from misterm100 is more like..cloudsurfer. though i havent ordered from m100 or CS.
just from what has been leaked on the forums.
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Any updates on product quality?
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Just ordered a 50g order 5 days ago, not too stoked now seeing that he only vac seals once, but if it gets through it gets through. If it doesn't get through I hope he'd willing to provide reship after he gets better bags.
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Why are all the avatars the same!?
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Why are all the avatars the same!?
this is not the thread for that so take it somewhere else
but it is a small random bug that happens once in awhile, nothing to complain about
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I'm still waiting on my package to US. It's not a very large order, but I've only had 1 other package take this long and that was a ST package from last year. I ordered again from ST shortly after his return and received my pack from germany within 2 weeks. I'm getting rather anxious. Every other transaction I've made(over 5 dozen) has gone smooth as butter. I ordered well within time to receive it by a special date and I don't think I'm gonna get it in time.
I've received multiple packs since ordering and I'm decidedly not please. I certainly hope it was shipped out expediently and that it's just the delay from the post office. I will say though, that every other order I've made from germany has been within 2 weeks. Some within 6 days. To top this all off, the only order I've EVER had tracking on was from ST which took nearly 40 days; Since then I've received well over 2 dozen international packs expediently, without tracking, and without issue.
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So will the package have a German address?
Makes me feel better considering NL has a reputation.
Still waiting on my package too.
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3rd 100g order and biggest rocks yet, great shit! to US west in 9 days.
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It's been about 15 days since I ordered 100g to the US and the tracking hasn't worked on either the Deutchepost site or USPS, both say nothing can be found. Has anyone else had these troubles lately?
I am not too worried as everyone seems to be getting their packages just fine 8)
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It's been about 15 days since I ordered 100g to the US and the tracking hasn't worked on either the Deutchepost site or USPS, both say nothing can be found. Has anyone else had these troubles lately?
I am not too worried as everyone seems to be getting their packages just fine 8)
I ordered 10g to west coast USA and it shipped 12 days ago w/ tracking. Same thing is happening with my code, not a single update after 12 days. Somehow I think that buying the tracking makes the package go slower, and also doesn't provide anything. I really needed my order to be here this week, and it seems like everyone who didn't get tracking got it within that time frame. If your thinking of ordering, don't buy tracking, it's a waste of money and doesn't work.
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USPS tracking blows. I wouldn't be too worried.
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Update on package ordered March 15th,
Still has not arrived. Accidentally auto-finalized upon receipt of a package slip.
So there is a 5/5 in the vendor feedback that is a little premature.
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March 15 for me too.
Getting worried.
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3eyes, did you use tracking? Its seeming like tracking is just fucking things up.
I'm at 1 week on a 50g order without tracking, but all this talk about people recently waiting a long time and DT not using proper bags is getting me worried..
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no tracking
It would make me too nervous to sign for it
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yeah probably
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I really hope DT's packages are making past customs. I already have an order not showing up from chemicalsisters. I really need DT's to come through.
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So the last feedback says "Signature required for T&T". So I can assume since I didn't get tracking, I won't have to sign?? I really don't want to sign for anything..
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So the last feedback says "Signature required for T&T". So I can assume since I didn't get tracking, I won't have to sign?? I really don't want to sign for anything..
If you didn't get tracking but the package shows up at your door and they want a signature what will most people do? They'll just sign. What should you do? You should not sign.
Regardless, when you get the package from your mailbox be 100% sure you aren't being watched. Might even make sense to open the package before you bring it into your home.
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No, you will not have to sign for the package if you didn't choose track and trace. My previous purchase with DT came in a package small enough to fit in any letterbox. The mailman should just drop it off. Just like slirp mentioned, don't sign for any out-of-the-ordinary package unless you know it's safe to do so, such as a package from Amazon that you know you placed an order for.
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I'm a little nervous aswell.
DT has been rather unresponsive in the resolution center, SR Staff had to grant my extension.
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most everyone on the forums is not getting their package
and a lot of people are getting packages according their/his SR page.....weird
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most everyone on the forums is not getting their package
and a lot of people are getting packages according their/his SR page.....weird
There are what like two people who are waiting for their package? To me that doesn't sound "a lot".
On the other side. I am really happy that DT is improving his stealth! Great to see that he took the feedback in and went on to apply it to his business!
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Day 13 and no Package.....starting to get a little worried. First time anything as taken this long for me.
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most everyone on the forums is not getting their package
and a lot of people are getting packages according their/his SR page.....weird
There are what like two people who are waiting for their package? To me that doesn't sound "a lot".
On the other side. I am really happy that DT is improving his stealth! Great to see that he took the feedback in and went on to apply it to his business!
There's at least 5 people who are waiting, I am on day 17 today. Hopefully it'll show up today! ;D
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Be patient, these are good shipping times in my opinion!. My first 100g order took 17 days, currently waiting on another. Tracking usually doesn't update until the day of(or before) delivery.
I'm excited to see more bulk options. ;D
Keep up the work DT!
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I received my 10 gram shipment today, 12 days in transit. Marquis test was black and I saw some of the fabled smoke. I'm very happy, I just wish I had ordered like 30 grams. Peace!
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most everyone on the forums is not getting their package
and a lot of people are getting packages according their/his SR page.....weird
There are what like two people who are waiting for their package? To me that doesn't sound "a lot".
On the other side. I am really happy that DT is improving his stealth! Great to see that he took the feedback in and went on to apply it to his business!
There's at least 5 people who are waiting, I am on day 17 today. Hopefully it'll show up today! ;D
Are you all from the States? Don't worry until it has been 30 days. German postal service is funny sometimes :) It's not that rare of packages taking up to 30 days+ from Germany.
I'm looking to hear back from you guys when you receive your orders!
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Ordered on March 15th, no tracking number unfortunately. Starting to wonder if this is a scam. :/
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Ordered on March 15th, no tracking number unfortunately. Starting to wonder if this is a scam. :/
I know the feeling, just leave payment in escrow. I have gotten some 100% refunds that way.
DT had shown up a few times for me to add extensions, I have never had a vendor suggest one first so at least he must know things are backing up.
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Everyone can take this for what its worth. I was not even going to post this soon but I have MUCH respect for SR and the community. Obviously this is a burner account, I didn't feel comfortable posting this under my s/n despite tor and all. I have been with the community for a good while and I can say this is my first intercept. Now, you might say I'm coming on here to support or down a certain vendor. No thank you. I would have much rather had my goods than post this. This is all I can give you for now. I ordered a decent bit. Not as crazy as some and not as little as most. Other packs have already arrived while waiting on this from Dutch. This is what I'm 99% sure of. The pack has been intercepted but thanks to the wise words of the community I'm fine. The police are very tricky and will try whatever to get you to admit to anything that might give them a direction to go. Don't give them that.
And to a word on stealth. In my time here, I've seen some things get through customs that truly shouldn't. I truly believe "the powers that be" are getting a bit better. There are vendors on here that provide a level of stealth that truly couldn't be topped. If you have been around enough you know. This is the level that all vendors should strive for. I feel for now I have milked the road a fair bit and it's time to lay back a bit and enjoy my drugs. Stay safe my friends.
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Very few of these packages with "awesome stealth" have a chance through xray and customs is going to xray before they open a package. It is also easy to set a MDMA trained dog off with MDMA. This plastic crap that vendors use (often with residue on the outside at that) is worthless.
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Received my package in 12 shipping days to east coast USA (shipped 3/28)!!!! This was my second pack from dutch and the shipping was a little bit slower but still fast for a international order!.... I used the regular shipping option (without signature) both times....
Product came in right on weight and looked similar to the first order... Rocks as big as 5g and some sand... ran out of regent test but i have no dout its legit!!!
Thank DutchTrade!!!
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Four weeks and no pack. I've been here for over 2 years despite this account on the forums only having been around for 20 months(look at my user id number). I've never had a missing pack. EVER.
In all fairness I've had 1 pack that took 40+ days and was also from germany, but that was from ST about this time last year and he was very communicative and full of assurances. DT hasn't even bothered to agree to an extension on my order; SR staff had to agree on his behalf.
I've seen a LOT of vendors come and go and I'm NOT impressed with Dutch's service thus far. I hope I get my pack; I'm gonna message him now with my concerns and see what he says.
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Someone decided to give a burner account a neg....funny.
And yes xrays can see "through" things but can only tell differences. Take ten sheets of paper put together in a manilla shipping folder. If the pack is xrayed laying flat it will show only the sheet of paper providing they are all even and planced on top of one another.
Cut out a star now, place it in the pack. It gets xrayed and you will see the original papers, plus the new star you cut out. Now take a flat sheet of lsd....place between said papers. Providing its the same size and relative thickness, it will not be picked up. Another way of looking at this. Say you're shiping balls of any size, if you throw rocks of mdma in there, the xray will see the outline of the ball plus the rocks. Now, if you grind the shit out of the product, pack tightly in the ball, then ship. When scanned it looks like a solid object with no variences. I know these arent the best examples but you hopefully get the point.
Neg away!
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Ordered last month on the 15th, no pack yet
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Ordered last month on the 15th, no pack yet
It seems like march 15th wasn't a good day to place a order on.
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Will update when/if it arrives. If it does not show for 2 weeks I will have lost hope.
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bump and sub :)
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"Came in 15 days! quick shipping to central usa.
got hooked up 2g,
white mdma, with some party that are clear. Had tested by some people that previously rolled of different vendors from sr.
All have waited more then a month since last roll. They all said this was the best mdma they have ever had. Cant wait to try it in 2 weeks."
My feedback.
The stuff looks excenent, 50/50 sand small pebbles.
Just had it reagent tested, and it tested positive for mdma.
I found it great how fast the package came.
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8 business days to Scandinavia, the product was vacuum sealed twice.
I will update about the quality when i test it but it seams to be topnotch :)
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10 grams 10 days in transit to eastern U.S. Looks excellent.
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llalalal
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Extremely impressed with this vendor. 10 days to us for 100g order and it looks amazing. The entire pack is like 4 giant chunks with some sand that's broken off.
I do agree that mbb would be nice, but all is good here so I'm not complaining much.
Highly recommend to anyone.
Kolom0nster
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Btw- why is this thread still in newbie discussion? This vendor is well beyond newbie status.
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@kolom0nster: Because in order to start a thread in the rumor mill and post in it he has to rack up 50 posts on his account.
So I assume TheJollyRoger got his pack?
When I ordered his vendor page just said shipping times were at 7-30 days; Sometime in the last month it was updated to say 7-30(work) days. What is it with german vendors and they're shipping times? It's like they grow by a day or two per week! (that's not aimed solely at DT, I've seen a plethora of german vendors slowly increase shipping times on their page.
I ordered on the 15th and I've yet to receive my pack. I'm beginning to see a trend of people not receiving packages that were marked in transit that day. I have a 0% refund rate over nearly 2 years, if this ruins that I'm gonna be SERIOUSLY displeased.
I DID contact the vendor and he said the mailing option he uses to send his packs estimates 30-40 days for delivery to the US. Now, this jives with what it says on his vendor page as it allows 30(work) days which equates to about 40 days. I then asked how people were receiving their packs in as little as 8 days.
Perhaps he's using a few different sending methods and they just take varying amounts of time.
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What happened after you asked him if he uses different methods? I am also curious, I could have gotten my pack 4 times over now if I was one of these other lucky fellows but instead am left wondering if his prices were too good to be true.
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i learned my lesson and now only go with tracked shipping if i want to try new vendors
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I ordered on the 15th and I've yet to receive my pack. I'm beginning to see a trend of people not receiving packages that were marked in transit that day. I have a 0% refund rate over nearly 2 years, if this ruins that I'm gonna be SERIOUSLY displeased.
I ordered on the 15th too. Ended up with a 50% refund which is under 50 due to the bitcoin crash.
Seems like the vendor is good everyone else is getting something.
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Got my 50g tracked order to the US in only 5 days. Had to sign for it at the post office, but no worries. A mix of small (.5) crystals and powder. Grey colored. Checks out perfect by all three reagent tests. Thanks!
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Is he back?? Being offline so often. A lot of vacations LOL
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asdfa
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Order 4-3, delivered 13 days later to the middle of the states with some extra love included. Looks like great product, can't wait to see what my guinea pigs think. Good stealth
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This was my second purchase from DT for 10g's.
Shipping: 15 days from when it was shipped to the West Coast. I placed the order before they took off to make their stealth better so no MBB. The packaging it came in is top notch though.
Product: As they promised, it did arrive heavy at bout .8 grams. In rock form, the crystals looked a lot darker than the first package I recieved from 1 month ago. So, I'm guessing this was a new batch. As for quality, this blew me and my people away. A point had some of the experienced users rolling face all night. I personally took .2 myself and had a wonderful time.
I came on today to place another order but SR was down. I will definitely be getting my MDMA from DT from now on. His product is worth it. I highly recommend it.
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The vendor still has the listings offline. He did say on Apr 5 that they'd be gone for 2 weeks so hopefully back soon. DT really needs to correct this though:
Q: Do I need to sign for the package when it has a tracking?
A: No, the package is small enough to fit in any Letter/PO box and you don't need to sign upon arrival
I find it interesting all of the people that don't expect to sign but then are required to sign and go ahead and sign anyway.
If DT comes back with MBBs and if he's careful to not contaminate the package then +1 for him. Taking the time to ensure the no contamination (using separate rooms, separate gloves, etc) takes time but protects the customer and is worth a little more money.
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I'd be curious to hear from people who do a lot of international orders to the states. What's your success rate been like? I'd imagine anything from the Netherlands, in particular, would have a good chance of getting nabbed in customs. The products and prices are tempting though.
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I'd be curious to hear from people who do a lot of international orders to the states. What's your success rate been like? I'd imagine anything from the Netherlands, in particular, would have a good chance of getting nabbed in customs. The products and prices are tempting though.
1. DT is shipping from Germany
2. Just read this thread and you'll see that he's shipping success to the US is near perfect 100%. Few people whose orders were shipping on 15th of March are still waiting for their package though. You can read he's feedback on his vendor page also.
3. If he comes back (hopefully) with MBBs, this week or the upcoming one, his success rate should improve even more.
If there are any other concerns, please pop em' here and someone will probably answer them.
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I'd like to preface this with the statement that I think Dutch would be fine with me sharing this, however if he asks me to, I'll remove it.
In response to me DutchTrade responded with the following:
HI Thisworld,
Delivery time depends on a lot of things, like the area you live, the available transport via airmail, your local post office and mailman.
So we cannot tell you why it takes longer with your package or packages of other customers of that same date.
As said before: all packages are packed, send out and shipped the same way, so none of our orders get a different fashion or stealth.
Regards
The DutchTrade Crew
I've agreed to another extension pushing this up to the end of his delivery window out of respect. I'm going to contact him and inquire about a mutually agreeable resolution of this conundrum if these packages don't show.
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NOTE TO ALL THOSE WHO ORDERED ON MAY 15th: If your pack has yet to show, consider (as much as you can) patiently waiting till the end of his delivery window before pushing it out of the resolution center. I'm going to inquire of him whether he will offer everyone who experienced this problem a deal. Since it wasn't an isolated incident, and there are numerous people who've experienced this problem, perhaps he can do some sleuthing and discover where the issue was(ie:packs missent, lost, stolen, etc) and if it was someone in his employ. A good way to deduce this would be if anyone had tracking that ordered on the 15th and has yet to receive their package.
Obviously there's been a problem with orders from the 15th. I'd like to think he'd make it right by offering a reship with tracking or something. I'd even be willing to pay for the tracking and I'd finalize when it got to the US. Normally I wouldn't be ok with signing, but since EVERYONE (except for us select few) has received their packages and since he's improved his stealth even more, I feel comfortable doing so.
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Id just like to add that DT has always answered my questions within a day and he hasn't given just single line responses. He responds with full sentences and genuinely tries to answer your questions.
I've been in contact with him since before I placed my order and his communication level has not decreased AT ALL since I've queried him concerning this. I've had a few other vendors who would completely ignore my questions once I'd ordered and I'm glad to see that DT is a better and more professional vendor than that. :)
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
Pulled the trigger on a 50g pack today...
50g made it here a few days ago safe and sound. One rock was 7 grams. YES-A 7 GRAM ROCK.
This vendor continues to impress. Keep it up.
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I'd like to preface this with the statement that I think Dutch would be fine with me sharing this, however if he asks me to, I'll remove it.
In response to me DutchTrade responded with the following:
HI Thisworld,
Delivery time depends on a lot of things, like the area you live, the available transport via airmail, your local post office and mailman.
So we cannot tell you why it takes longer with your package or packages of other customers of that same date.
As said before: all packages are packed, send out and shipped the same way, so none of our orders get a different fashion or stealth.
Regards
The DutchTrade Crew
I've agreed to another extension pushing this up to the end of his delivery window out of respect. I'm going to contact him and inquire about a mutually agreeable resolution of this conundrum if these packages don't show.
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NOTE TO ALL THOSE WHO ORDERED ON MAY 15th: If your pack has yet to show, consider (as much as you can) patiently waiting till the end of his delivery window before pushing it out of the resolution center. I'm going to inquire of him whether he will offer everyone who experienced this problem a deal. Since it wasn't an isolated incident, and there are numerous people who've experienced this problem, perhaps he can do some sleuthing and discover where the issue was(ie:packs missent, lost, stolen, etc) and if it was someone in his employ. A good way to deduce this would be if anyone had tracking that ordered on the 15th and has yet to receive their package.
Obviously there's been a problem with orders from the 15th. I'd like to think he'd make it right by offering a reship with tracking or something. I'd even be willing to pay for the tracking and I'd finalize when it got to the US. Normally I wouldn't be ok with signing, but since EVERYONE (except for us select few) has received their packages and since he's improved his stealth even more, I feel comfortable doing so.
Yeah I was thinking the 15th could be someone in the employ of Dutch Trade. For several people on that date to get nothing and have orders made after received must be something odd. If his packaging were discovered we would be getting love letters/ controlled delivery's and no one would be getting anything.
This seems to have happened to another MDMA vendor (no need to be specific) and he ended up giving allot of refunds because one controlled delivery meant they knew what to look for. None of his orders were getting through.
I don't know if DT will offer a reship even if this is figured out. Especially with the bitcoin crash they may have lost allot of money and they have plenty of satisfied customers without us 15th people.
DT is a good vendor, he still got a 5/5 from me.
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labtest result for dt's "new batch 72% pure paste speed":
325mg amp.-sulf. / 1g == 23,73% base equivalent
coffein, traces of paracetamol, no dangerous cutting agents
this test is from the dried powder, consider that the paste loses half of weight on drying
all in all, not quite as advertised but okay for that price ...
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i would like to try it
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Well obviously other orders are getting through, so his packaging isn't compromised, as you put it. However, SuperTrips sent out packs the same for over a year without them 'catching on to his packaging'. I'm pretty sure the feds have ordered from DutchTrade to see how he packs. So that's kind of a moot point..
If they don't show up, it's obviously a problem on his end. Why WOULDN'T he be obligated to fix the problem on his end? I know he's got a TON of happy customers, but a shrewd business person doesn't disregard a couple slighted customers because it's easy. Especially since it's only a couple people(and my order wasn't very big) it would be easy to reship to satisfy them and ensure a return customer. This will be my first order that hasn't shown up on the first ship and if he doesn't make it right I'll be very upset and make a large sized deal about it.
What exactly qualifies him to be a good vendor from my perspective? If he fixes it I'd say he's a good vendor, having done his job, and will receive a 5/5. If people give him a 5/5 based on SOMEONE ELSE's experience, what value does the rating system have?
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Sometimes a group of packages seem to get caught before it leaves the home county. I think that this has happened a lot for packages leaving the Netherlands and it may be happening for packages out of Germany now. No need to say more on this subject though.
If nearly nobody receives packages that were shipped at that same time but whatever the reason I hope that dutch makes up for it. Did anyone have tracked packages go out on that date?
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got my 20gram order yesterday...just finalized today
came in at 22.5 hell fucking yes....no huge rocks or anything
but its still beautiful to look at..not such a strong sass smell but it is there.
west coast so about 16 days. triple sealed usual stealth.
i wanna order more of this batch before its gone lol.
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jmhgj
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Sometimes a group of packages seem to get caught before it leaves the home county. I think that this has happened a lot for packages leaving the Netherlands and it may be happening for packages out of Germany now. No need to say more on this subject though.
If nearly nobody receives packages that were shipped at that same time but whatever the reason I hope that dutch makes up for it. Did anyone have tracked packages go out on that date?
Hopefully he will make it right. I would love for my earlier post to be wrong.
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I'd like to say my order with DT was marked in transit on March 29, and still hasn't arrived. The order auto-finalized on accident, and I'm beginning to get nervous about the package. Anyone else receive after about 3 weeks?
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I received my package to the eastern US 14 days after I placed the order. Like others have mentioned before, stealth could have been a little better, but overall it was ok and it got here. That's the most important part. I had to laugh when I opened it too. Weight was 1.2 g over what I ordered, and it came with another little bonus as well ;)
No communication was required during the process. Everything went smoothly.
Product looks like meth/gravel, but has that terrible terrible mdma taste which means it's great. I will be sampling it Saturday night so I will pop back in here and leave a more detailed product review on Sunday.
Will def order from DT again, especially considering he is improving his stealth.
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Recently I received a second order from DT. This batch is a lot whiter/grey vs. the last batch which had a slight tan tint to it. It came as beautiful 25g+ rocks with little powder. I was impressed with the tan MDMA the first time and even more so with this last batch!
Good work DT 8)
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i ordered with tracking and the dumb shit hasnt updated in over a week
hurry up USPS and get me my package
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1 of 5 " Package didn't arrive after 30 days, got 50% refund for it. Hard to tell if it was sent or not because my country supposedly has tough border security. However more likely the vendor just didn't send it and used that as an excuse to scam an easy 50% from such a large order."
Who left this? Can you elaborate why do you think you have been scammed? Country of origin etc.
Sound bullshitty to me that DT would compromise his feedback for a relatively small order (5 grams).
You are fucking mail ordering drugs from outside your country. You agree to his terms when you order. You got your 50% refund, what the hell is your problem?
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50g made it here a few days ago safe and sound. One rock was 7 grams. YES-A 7 GRAM ROCK.
This vendor continues to impress. Keep it up.
110 grams in 2 months :o...... Did you eat it all yourself? ;D
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received the brown batch yesterday
I spoke to soon lol
im defiantly buying again if good quality
anyone had a chance to test out his brown batch? looks and smells great.
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Ordered march 15th no pack still and no forum presence from vendor. Due to the stats on my buying account it is likely that the resolution staff would have rules in his favor anyways but I finalized because I thougt a package slip was from him. I feel like vendor skirted like 5 noob buyers so he could satisfy all the others and knew about bit pin crash so the refunds wouldn't even hurt him... Does not look good especially since he's not on forum at all. Will edit feedback to 1/5 today if it doesn't arrive
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He did say his listings down for a couple of weeks so he's likely on break.
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Ordered 5 grams and it came in about 7 business days (11 days total) to eastern US. Weight was almost a gram over, will be testing it with Marquis and a personal taste test within the next week, will report back with results.
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The order that I placed on the 15th never arrived. Gave them a 1/5 feedback score. I would have much rather preferred a reship instead of a 50% refund that also ruined my refund rate.
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The order that I placed on the 15th never arrived. Gave them a 1/5 feedback score. I would have much rather preferred a reship instead of a 50% refund that also ruined my refund rate.
Hey jizzmaggot,
did you communicate with DT and ask for a reship?
Assuming you are in the US, if you ordered on the 15th, why aren't you still in extension? His terms and conditions state up to 30 working days for shipments to the US. His terms also clearly state his 50% refund policy. These are the terms you agreed to when ordering.
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I had extended it once before, it ran out, I offered another extension and he never accepted it. It automatically went to a SR admin to be reviewed, and that's how I got the refund. :/
The order that I placed on the 15th never arrived. Gave them a 1/5 feedback score. I would have much rather preferred a reship instead of a 50% refund that also ruined my refund rate.
Hey jizzmaggot,
did you communicate with DT and ask for a reship?
Assuming you are in the US, if you ordered on the 15th, why aren't you still in extension? His terms and conditions state up to 30 working days for shipments to the US. His terms also clearly state his 50% refund policy. These are the terms you agreed to when ordering.
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Ordered march 15th no pack still and no forum presence from vendor. Due to the stats on my buying account it is likely that the resolution staff would have rules in his favor anyways but I finalized because I thougt a package slip was from him. I feel like vendor skirted like 5 noob buyers so he could satisfy all the others and knew about bit pin crash so the refunds wouldn't even hurt him... Does not look good especially since he's not on forum at all. Will edit feedback to 1/5 today if it doesn't arrive
Hey Kaleidoscope,
Have you tried communicating with DT directly?
I ran into some issues with my last order and so far he's been very responsive and I'm pretty sure we will be able to work out an amicable solution.
And whats this with him knowing about the bitcoin crash? Is he the market oracle I should be consulting on when to buy and sell bitcoins;)
Either way, price of btc doesn't matter to DT in this case because DT had all his orders hedged, so whatever dollar amount he had assigned to his items is what he was getting out.
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His SR page says he will refund directly in bitcions. At $250 dollars a bitcoin a crash is fucking obvious. It does not take a fucking crystal ball, OK?
Also yes I have communicated with DT. He does not seem to understand my particular situation. He is pushing me to the resolution center, although I long ago finalized.
Ultimately I sent my money to a stranger without a pack in my hand, yes its my fault, yes I deserve to loose 600 dollars on top of my mounting real life debt, HOWEVER, why are all the packs from march 15th gone? why has he not addressed this in the forums? And why has No1 said a pack from the 15th HAS arrived?
Friday the 15th was the day they went on vacation due to spring break. Right, a bunch of druggies going on spring break and the last day they have to send drugs doesn't it seem possible they skirt there responsibilities? Imagine.... they would get SO MUCH out of that one day. I alone ordered 33gs. 50% refunds on 10 people ordering 33gs = 150Gs for the seller and enough REAL reviews to force SR to rule in there favor. Also, right before going on vacation. Spring break vacation. Like molly week vacation.
1st message to DT was responded to with an all too vague and impersonal and uncaring manner, ignoring details of my (short) message and requiring me to send him further long elaboration which he will look at and think wall of text im sure.
Anyways, im extremely sad and in debt. Good day.
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jizzmaggot: I'm sorry to hear about your unfortunate circumstances. I've personally had at least 3 extensions, if not 4 so far. It's a shame that the SR staff gave you a refund if that's not what you wanted. Personally, I made another resolution shortly before it expired stating that I would VERY MUCH like an extension and that since the pack is still within it's 'delivery window' that I'd wait to see if it arrived. It hasn't so far and at this point I don't think it will.
thelovedragon: No actually, even if the hedged, if the price is going down when he settles and he gets less money, he still loses some in cashing out because cashing out isn't instant and who knows what relationship or agreement he's worked out with the people who cash him out?
KaleidescopeVision: I've seen you around for quite a while, and honestly I've always kind of thought you had good, well-thought-out points and posts and a good level head on your shoulders. I still think that's the case, but I think you're getting a little excited or worked up about the situation, thus leading you to impulsive actions or keystrokes.
Yeah, DT might not understand your position, but I'm guessing English isn't his first language.
I don't think all the packs from the 15th are gone, just a dozen or two. I know a bunch of people came forward on the forums, but not NEARLY everyone on the site has a forum account.
His communication with me has always been professional and proportionate to my message to him in terms of tone, length, and detail. The only reason I can think it wouldn't be the same for you is if you were rash, incessant, rude or accusatory. Is this really true? Ordered march 15th no pack still and no forum presence from vendor. Due to the stats on my buying account it is likely that the resolution staff would have rules in his favor anyways but I finalized because I thougt a package slip was from him. I feel like vendor skirted like 5 noob buyers so he could satisfy all the others
Do you really feel like this? That wouldn't make ANY sense! I've been here for 2 years and I have a 0% refund rate. ALSO, I only ordered 5 grams! Look at my user ID# here on the forum; That's right, I was the 2,517th person to register on the forums. Those things combined means the vendor would have to be RETARDED to try and scam me. You really think that implying that the person who's shipping you large amounts of drugs internationally is retarded is a good idea?
Come on people, if you're respectful and courteous about this you'll get a much better response.
This was an HONEST MISTAKE. It's situations like these that give vendors a chance to really shine above the crowd. Look at Jesus of Rave. He's had SO many issues! He's just honest and upfront about things and his customers respect that. I'm certain DutchTrade will rise to the plate and make this right if there's open communication without hostilities.
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Whew! Sorry guys. Anyways, I got a message back from DutchTrade. I'll quote it here.
Hi Thisworld,
As we received more messages saying the shipped order on the 15th didn't arrive, we are definitely going to check this out by checking a tracked package from that date.
Also as stated on our profile we offer everyone a 50% refund after 30 days shipping time, which you've reached by far already.
If you would like to receive the refund, please place the request in the resolution center.
After checking a tracked package from that date (which doesn't guarantee or says anything about the other packages but still.), we will decide to do what to do for these customers. But then again it's always a 50/50 chance and risk for the both of us.
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew
I gently reminded him that the customer and himself both do share the risk when the package is actually shipped. However, since I'm not an isolated incident, I have to believe our packages weren't shipped through some error.
Once again, if he requests me to, I'll take this down. I'm just tryin to help out.
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I finally received my order, 21 days after being marked in transit. Stealth was good again, but you could hear some rocks moving around. I had a bit of a panic attack after it didn't show up in two weeks like last time, but rest assured it will come! I honestly think the March 15th packs were some sort of error, because everyone else is receiving, whether it be in 6 or 21 days.
In terms of quality, I don't know what to expect from this batch, because this one looks more white/grey, when my first order was more tan/brownish. However, if it is anything like the first batch I received, then this shit is FIRE!! Don't hesitate based on quality, because it is truly great.
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Hi Guys,
First of all; we're sorry about the delay in our response but we have been offline for a while.
Also it's very unfortunate to hear that some of you, ordered on the 15th, never received their package. Please know that all orders are only confirmed AFTER the order is packed and sent out for shipping. But counting the customers who didn't receive on this date is less than 10. All we can think of is that a part of this shipment was intercepted, as we checked some tracked orders from the 15th and they did arrive.
We offer all these customers a 50% refund, as stated on our profile.
GOOD NEWS:
- Our listings will be back up on Tuesday April 23th
- We have improved our stealth and will be using MBB (Moisture Barrier Bags)
- As SR can't do anything in terms of refund after an order is already finalized, we won't request FE anymore (not for track&trace either)
- Track & Trace doesn't necessarily mean you have to sign for your package, however this depends on the country/region and your local mailman.
Therefore a signature MAY BE REQUIRED for a track&trace package
- We'll be fully operating again starting from Tuesday, which means messages will be answered within 48 hours and orders will be packed/shipped and
confirmed within 24 hours.
- Tracking info will be provided immediately and together with the confirmation of your order. Please note that it will take 3-7 days before the tracking code will
be activated by the post office
- Post order companies are CLOSED during the weekend, which means sent out orders will not be put in transit during this time nor will tracking info be
activated or updated
Thank you all for the good reviews and your patience during our vacation! We are looking forward to doing business with you all again on TUESDAY!!
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew
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DT crew is bad ass, had some friends try the batch and it was bomb
with no bad come down feelings at all
+1 to the DT Crew
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Just wanted to leave a review of DutchTrade's product. I had the pleasure of trying it on Saturday and was blown away.
Background: 220 lbs, experienced with mdma. Last mdma experience was approx. 3 months prior. Wife partook in this experience as well.
00:00 Parachuted about 160 mg. It was nice not to have to deal with powder--just too 2 decent sized rocks, weighed em up on my cheap scale and wrapped em in tp.
00:20 Can start to feel initial effects. A little discomfort (kinda felt like I had to shit) but that quickly passed. We were watching a zombie movie and were making jokes and laughing at the extreme gore.
00:45 Getting a bit more talkative and decided to turn the movie off as we weren't paying much attention to it anymore. Put on some Lemon Jelly and the milkdrop visualizer on the big screen. Heart rate increasing.
1:00 I had set my alarm for an hour after ingestion for our booster doses. I was feeling really good and honestly felt like I didn't need a booster, but I wanted to prolong the level I was on. I parachuted about 70 mg more.
1:00-4:00 These 3 hours were great. Very talkative and moving felt great. Danced with the wife for a bit. I don't know if the quality was just that good, or if my 70 mg booster was a bit too much, but I have never had the eye wiggles as much as I did with this. I couldn't focus on anything close to my face. I went through a lot of gum as well.
4:00 Definitely feeling a slight comedown, but not bad at all. It felt like I was gently descending from the clouds. Wife and I started making out and I immediately got a boner. I have tried having sex on mdma before but it didn't work out too well, but this stuff I shot right up. We had all kinds of sex for about 45 minutes (she got sore) and I found it difficult to cum. Finally I was able to cum and boy did I ever. I had a very long/full orgasm that was pretty outstanding. Not as good as sex on lsd, but pretty fucking good.
4:45 I needed a beer after that one, so we spent the rest of the night watching the visualizer and drinking beer/smoking pot. I was able to easily fall asleep about 7 hours after ingestion. The next morning I was a little groggy, but felt ok. Kinda had a burned out mdma feeling, but that really only lasted half the day. I also had a sore on the side of my tongue, no doubt from chewing my face off. Around 2:00 pm Sunday I had a large meal and that seemed to cure the hangover-like symptoms.
All in all, DutchTrade has some of the best, if not the best mdma on the road. And for the price, it can't be beat. Now that Dutch is going to be using MBB, I will definitely be getting more from them later this summer.
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Hi Guys,
First of all; we're sorry about the delay in our response but we have been offline for a while.
Also it's very unfortunate to hear that some of you, ordered on the 15th, never received their package. Please know that all orders are only confirmed AFTER the order is packed and sent out for shipping. But counting the customers who didn't receive on this date is less than 10. All we can think of is that a part of this shipment was intercepted, as we checked some tracked orders from the 15th and they did arrive.
We offer all these customers a 50% refund, as stated on our profile.
GOOD NEWS:
- Our listings will be back up on Tuesday April 23th
- We have improved our stealth and will be using MBB (Moisture Barrier Bags)
- As SR can't do anything in terms of refund after an order is already finalized, we won't request FE anymore (not for track&trace either)
- Track & Trace doesn't necessarily mean you have to sign for your package, however this depends on the country/region and your local mailman.
Therefore a signature MAY BE REQUIRED for a track&trace package
- We'll be fully operating again starting from Tuesday, which means messages will be answered within 48 hours and orders will be packed/shipped and
confirmed within 24 hours.
- Tracking info will be provided immediately and together with the confirmation of your order. Please note that it will take 3-7 days before the tracking code will
be activated by the post office
- Post order companies are CLOSED during the weekend, which means sent out orders will not be put in transit during this time nor will tracking info be
activated or updated
Thank you all for the good reviews and your patience during our vacation! We are looking forward to doing business with you all again on TUESDAY!!
Regards,
The DutchTrade Crew
Thanks for publicly addressing this. :)
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Excited to see you're new terms, DT! Thank you for taking to heart the suggestions of this community!
Lifting the FE requirement on large orders definitely you back on your short list. However, with the requirement of a signature for Track & Trace, I'm still a little apprehensive. Is there any way you could let buyers with a certain number/$ amount of purchases stay in escrow without tracking?
I totally understand this exposes you to potential dishonest customers who will claim a no show just to get free drugs. However, if you could find a system that you're comfortable with, you would make a lot of customers very happy, myself included.
Thanks again for being such an asset to this community. Keep up the great work!
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Excited to see you're new terms, DT! Thank you for taking to heart the suggestions of this community!
Lifting the FE requirement on large orders definitely you back on your short list. However, with the requirement of a signature for Track & Trace, I'm still a little apprehensive. Is there any way you could let buyers with a certain number/$ amount of purchases stay in escrow without tracking?
I totally understand this exposes you to potential dishonest customers who will claim a no show just to get free drugs. However, if you could find a system that you're comfortable with, you would make a lot of customers very happy, myself included.
Thanks again for being such an asset to this community. Keep up the great work!
I also agree with this! Im quite eager to order 100g but i will never sign for anything. I dont know the laws completely but im pretty positive that in the event of a controlled dilivery signing for it is an admission of guild in my eyes. Id rather lose the money from 100g and not sign for it then have to sign for it every time and possibly spend a good bit of time in the pen getting anally raped. Id rather not be someones bitch (:
Would be quite awesome if you did this DT, and thanks for addressing the public
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Excited to see you're new terms, DT! Thank you for taking to heart the suggestions of this community!
Lifting the FE requirement on large orders definitely you back on your short list. However, with the requirement of a signature for Track & Trace, I'm still a little apprehensive. Is there any way you could let buyers with a certain number/$ amount of purchases stay in escrow without tracking?
I totally understand this exposes you to potential dishonest customers who will claim a no show just to get free drugs. However, if you could find a system that you're comfortable with, you would make a lot of customers very happy, myself included.
Thanks again for being such an asset to this community. Keep up the great work!
I also agree with this! Im quite eager to order 100g but i will never sign for anything. I dont know the laws completely but im pretty positive that in the event of a controlled dilivery signing for it is an admission of guild in my eyes. Id rather lose the money from 100g and not sign for it then have to sign for it every time and possibly spend a good bit of time in the pen getting anally raped. Id rather not be someones bitch (:
Would be quite awesome if you did this DT, and thanks for addressing the public
I COMPLETELY AGREE! At least let the buyer have a choice if they want to take the risk or not, and only allow very large, untracked orders from very established and vetted customers.
When I received the orange slip in my mailbox saying my 50g pack from you had arrived in only five days to the USA and was requiring a signature I grew a little wary. I had no idea my order would have required a sig as I chose the no sig option. Of course, once I picked it up, all was well and the packaging was stealthy enough to not arouse suspicion, plus I often pick up random packs through my unicorn dealing business, so the postal employees are familiar with me and very friendly :)
However, I will not be ordering from you again until there is some compromise found in this policy! Your product, customer service, and overall operations are great! Especially now that you're adding MBB's....let me continue to be your customer!
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I also agree with this! Im quite eager to order 100g but i will never sign for anything. I dont know the laws completely but im pretty positive that in the event of a controlled dilivery signing for it is an admission of guild in my eyes. Id rather lose the money from 100g and not sign for it then have to sign for it every time and possibly spend a good bit of time in the pen getting anally raped. Id rather not be someones bitch (:
Would be quite awesome if you did this DT, and thanks for addressing the public
To get tracking to the states he needs to send registered mail which requires a signature. I don't blame you for not wanting to sign but in that case it really makes sense to buy maybe 25g instead of 100g. Yes the cost per gram is a little more but so are the losses if the pack doesn't show up. Just my opinion.
PS I agree with your sig
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I also agree with this! Im quite eager to order 100g but i will never sign for anything. I dont know the laws completely but im pretty positive that in the event of a controlled dilivery signing for it is an admission of guild in my eyes. Id rather lose the money from 100g and not sign for it then have to sign for it every time and possibly spend a good bit of time in the pen getting anally raped. Id rather not be someones bitch (:
Would be quite awesome if you did this DT, and thanks for addressing the public
To get tracking to the states he needs to send registered mail which requires a signature. I don't blame you for not wanting to sign but in that case it really makes sense to buy maybe 25g instead of 100g. Yes the cost per gram is a little more but so are the losses if the pack doesn't show up. Just my opinion.
PS I agree with your sig
I was talking more about us trusting each other and not having to do tracking. But its completely understandable that he doesnt offer this. It would be a lot of work to decide whether or not people were trustworthy.
Im curious to whether or not there are mom/pop mail places that will sign the packages for you when they are delivered. I'm gonna look into this, and ill report back with my findings.
In the USA btw
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I also agree with this! Im quite eager to order 100g but i will never sign for anything. I dont know the laws completely but im pretty positive that in the event of a controlled dilivery signing for it is an admission of guild in my eyes. Id rather lose the money from 100g and not sign for it then have to sign for it every time and possibly spend a good bit of time in the pen getting anally raped. Id rather not be someones bitch (:
Would be quite awesome if you did this DT, and thanks for addressing the public
To get tracking to the states he needs to send registered mail which requires a signature. I don't blame you for not wanting to sign but in that case it really makes sense to buy maybe 25g instead of 100g. Yes the cost per gram is a little more but so are the losses if the pack doesn't show up. Just my opinion.
PS I agree with your sig
I was talking more about us trusting each other and not having to do tracking. But its completely understandable that he doesnt offer this. It would be a lot of work to decide whether or not people were trustworthy.
Im curious to whether or not there are mom/pop mail places that will sign the packages for you when they are delivered. I'm gonna look into this, and ill report back with my findings.
In the USA btw
UPS Stores will sign for you (and they are independently owned....the modern version of the mom/pop store in a way).
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slirp, or anyone else for that matter, do you speak from experience? I've always understood PO boxes to allow the package to be delivered, but then they'll make you sign for it when you come pick it up. Nothing but rumors to back up my understanding though. I would greatly appreciate some input from someone knowledgeable.
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+1 slirp
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slirp, or anyone else for that matter, do you speak from experience? I've always understood PO boxes to allow the package to be delivered, but then they'll make you sign for it when you come pick it up. Nothing but rumors to back up my understanding though. I would greatly appreciate some input from someone knowledgeable.
This isn't an official source but... http://voices.yahoo.com/ups-store-box-vs-usps-post-office-box-2440038.html
"The UPS Store accepts and/or signs for these packages on the customer's behalf and holds them."
They will even notify you by phone or text when you get a package if you like.
The best thing to do though is to just ask them before you get the mailbox. Since these places are independently run it wouldn't surprise me if a few of them don't comply with the corporate/franchise standards.
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Forgot to update back on it, but I got my order after about 16 days. Weight was 10% over and I had rocks up to 2.5g+. And man, this shit is STRONG. So far like 5 people I sold it to threw up from it being too strong and then rolling balls, mostly girls haha. I'm glad he got better bags and I will be ordering another 50g for sure and after that I'll start using him for 100g orders.
Also to those interested, I told him I wouldn't sign for anything and to not use a track&trace on my order and he didn't. I have a couple thousand spent so I'm not sure if he'd do that for new users.
Much love DT!
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decided to snag a 50g pack. praying all goes well. will update on *improved stealth/shipping time estimation**/product look/smell/quality (will wash) when arrives.
thanks dutch; i think u can connect the dots
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Just placed an order with DutchTrade. 10gs for east coast US with tracking. I really hope everything goes smoothly and good luck to the rest of you all.
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So, I am SUPER impressed with Dutch.
While this is the first package I've not received and I'm not happy about that, I've literally never worked with a vendor that had this level of communication, professionalism, or consideration for his customers.
Dutch, while strictly sticking to his policy(which makes him a shrewd businessman) still went WAY out of his way to make sure to be fair to me.
He deserves mad props.
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Trying to get my order sorted out with DT. Was super excited for my stuff, but it's been over a month and it hasn't come in. Either USPS messed up or they gave me the wrong tracking info. I think the former is more plausible.
Edit: I should add that this is not the same name as my buyer account. My buyer stats are phenomenal as well.. The tracking information gives some wacky shit, says my package was in halfway across the country and then sent back to Germany. Has this happened to anyone else?
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I had my very first order go through a similar process of bouncing around the US then ending up back in Europe. I was checking the tracking in ToR, might you have done the same? Thankfully the vendor (Albion) was more than helpful and reshipped even though it was admittedly my fault. Generally I think it's best not to check tracking at all if you can avoid it. Here's hoping you two can can work something out.
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No, but I did check it quite a bit. I knew to not check with Tor. I only checked after week 2 as well, and it said it was sent to NJ only a few days after it was marked shipped. I have no idea what's going on, why does USPS suck so much? DT is a businessman, and I understand that this is not his fault. It's just quite a big hit...
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No, but I did check it quite a bit. I knew to not check with Tor. I only checked after week 2 as well, and it said it was sent to NJ only a few days after it was marked shipped. I have no idea what's going on, why does USPS suck so much? DT is a businessman, and I understand that this is not his fault. It's just quite a big hit...
what size we talking about. i might want to pull my 50pk since its no track and well a few of you guys even with tracking have said it didnt come :(
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Onefish, my order was from a different vendor. It was just my first order on the road. I've only made one order with dutch for 30g and it came through without tracking and without any issues in a little less than two weeks to the Western US. I was just offering my similar experience.
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I ordered 120g. It's been a month and a half now, I'm not sure if it'll even come in....
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Ordered another 200 grams after previous success with 300 grams. Here's looking to you, DutchTrade!
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Does anyone know if DT conducts business through tormail? If so, can they provide his address?
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subbed.
would also love to know tormail address
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Just put my 4th 100g order in with DutchTrade before the attack begun.. seeing the maintenance message on the url right now, hopefully DPR is gaining the upper hand.
... site just went up as I was writing this message!! time to finalize some shit now
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Can anyone compare this new batch of mdma to the last batch? I've seen feedback describing it as "smokey grey crystal", is that any different then the last shipments? And are the DT crew using MBBs this time around? I have an order in transit and am just feeling out what to expect.
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Can anyone compare this new batch of mdma to the last batch? I've seen feedback describing it as "smokey grey crystal", is that any different then the last shipments? And are the DT crew using MBBs this time around? I have an order in transit and am just feeling out what to expect.
I'm in the same boat as you :)
My guess is that it will be comparable to interway's current batch, which is "smoky gray". If that's the case, it's topnotch gear! Going to perform a wash tomorrow to check the purity, and to have a stellar personal stash! n_n They are apparently going to be using the MBB's for all the orders that were made following spring break. keep us posted, I'll update on my order when it arrives (To USA)
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Can anyone compare this new batch of mdma to the last batch? I've seen feedback describing it as "smokey grey crystal", is that any different then the last shipments? And are the DT crew using MBBs this time around? I have an order in transit and am just feeling out what to expect.
I've gotten both the brownish and the new "smokey grey" batch, and I can say with confidence that the new batch is just as good, if not better than the first. I had some of the first batch at a festival and gave it to a couple of friends, all of whom said it was the best molly they've ever had, and all of them are pretty experienced with molly. I then took some of the new batch while I had somewhat of a tolerance built up, and only took .25 spread out between two hits, and I was rolling titties. Definitely some good ass molly. It had me going for a good 5 hours, with eye wiggles, euphoria, and all the good things that come with dank molly.
Edit: My second order (the smokey grey) was before DT switched to the new stealth and MBB, so I can't comment on that, as my shipment was sent using his old methods.
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Jeebus Chorizo, that last feedback someone just left on DTs' vendor page describing stealth in detail.........
What the fucking fuck?
I hate to even draw attention to it.
If you're reading this please go back and edit out the shipping details.
Ugh, some people.
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^Yeah, I saw that too. Not good.
Subbing!
:)
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Woah, whats this about??
"0/5 COMMUNICATION
0/5 QUALITY
0/5 SHIPPING TIME
0/5 STEALTH
A BUNCH OF BROWN GREYISH POWDER, WHICH COLORED LIGHT PURPLE WITH MECKE AND MARQUIS, NOT BLACK OR DARK.
DO NOT RECOMMEND!
STAY AWAY"
I really wish people with these kind of complaints would post in more detail on the forums ???
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whoever posted shipping method on vendor page needs to edit..........
also i have place two orders in past month that gives complimentary track and trace for orders 50> i have asked for dt to just move it to my sr account i think it was $7 and the other was $8. He responded when i finalize ask for a refund for shipping, wel i dont want to ruin my stats its 0% for a reason. Vendor needs to put track and trace free as a shippping options when 50 grams> either way its just $15 but it be nice to have that since i paid for tnt and it should of been free.
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Subbing
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No package, he ceased communication mid-conversation and no refund.
DO NOT RECOMMEND.
ABSOLUTELY NOT HAPPY.
Edit: Its been over a month and a half.
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Here's my take on it. DutchTrade is legit. My last order I asked them to help out because of the bitcoin crash and he much obliged!! He was even on vacation at the time and still took time out to respond to me. Not only did they respond but they also took time out of their off time to get me a package out! This is a world class crew! They have been nothing but professional, which leads me to believe that the people that are not being satisfied are possibly not satisfiable!! They are the same people that, after 5 days, send a message daily asking where their package is, if it was sent, when it was sent, what time of day it was sent. etc, etc.......! More or less unpleasable. I sent him a large chunk of change and just chilled for a few weeks, this shit is coming from halfway around the world!!! Then....walah! It arrived without any issues at all. Keep in mind I did NOT contact DutchTrade one time except to say thank you for helping me out in tough times! Someone actually came through for me when I was down! So I would say to all of the haters out there........take your complaining somewhere else!!
I received the grey/purple molly and was unable to test and verify the light purple on the test, however product was sampled last night and its decent. Smells of strong sassafras and is a nice contrast to the brown from the last order!
overall I give DutchTrade an easy 5/5 they surely earned it!!
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I am not an unpleasable customer. I am a very easy to please person.
Dutch stopped responding to my messages as soon as I informed him I had already finalized my payment. He literally ceased communication as soon as he realized my payment was forwarded and he had nothing to gain from continuing to communicate with me. I did not message him until my package was A MONTH AN ENTIRE MONTH in shipping. Even then I was very calm and reasonable.
Now I feel it is my duty to warn people
This is too good to be true.
Too many newbie forum accounts posting reviews on a newbie forum thread with a suspiciously new vendor whos suspiciously fucked over quite a few people.
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Im not going to take my complaining somewhere else you are a classic VENDOR DICK SUCKER who thinks EVERYONE ELSE IS LYING and trying to get free drugs or money. You are either DutchTrade or a fucking idiot
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I am not an unpleasable customer. I am a very easy to please person.
Dutch stopped responding to my messages as soon as I informed him I had already finalized my payment. He literally ceased communication as soon as he realized my payment was forwarded and he had nothing to gain from continuing to communicate with me. I did not message him until my package was A MONTH AN ENTIRE MONTH in shipping. Even then I was very calm and reasonable.
Now I feel it is my duty to warn people
This is too good to be true.
Too many newbie forum accounts posting reviews on a newbie forum thread with a suspiciously new vendor whos suspiciously fucked over quite a few people.
1. Never finalize early...
2.Your a ball of fucking moronic cunt slime
I'm not a newb, by any means. & I have been all over this thread and this vendor since the beginning.
He is not a scammer, by any means. They run a bussiness.
You don't pay for a service or item until you receive it and are satisfied as a buyer, when you do pay the person vending said items they rightfully assume you are satisfied!
You released your money, you went out of escrow, no one can help you...
Count it as a loss, use a different vendor, leave, do whatever.
Just don't keep spamming on a reputable vendors thread.
There are only a handful of cases where DT's shipments haven't came through, and as far as I know they have worked to resolve them all...
Also, they aren't even that "new" of a vendor you fucking jizz stain...
Your negativity has me being negative now, time to hop on over to the +Karma thread, you should do the same friend!
DutchTrade is standup in my books fellow SR'ers, don't listen to this guy!
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cool
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I hope your right whiteout! Pulled the trigger a few days ago while the site was up... really counting on this one. The prices do seem too good to be true in comparison to some other vendors... If it does come best believe I will leave a FULL review.
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Ok this kaleidoscope guy is a fucking retard! I'm the vendor dicksucker?! Really? I've received more shit from this guy than you've ever seen in your life!! I finalized early on every transaction!! If you don't have any intuition then you shouldn't be playing the game! The whole point of the last post was to basically tell you in a nice way, that you're a fucking idiot. I'm sure this guy/crew didn't start scamming random people. I can tell just by the words that you type YOU and nobody else fucked this up! DT is chill as fuck and I'm sure would have went out of his/their way to satisfy you, but your not able to be satisfied. Jumping to conclusions is stupid....Haven't you ever heard the saying about ASSUME? you make an ASS-U-ME!! That's exactly what you did.
It's not sucking dick its given credit where credit is due!! Did you even read the whole post? They went out of their way for me and helped a fellow roadster get back up on my feet!! You got some nerve dude! You see the feedback on DT's page? Your little bit of money you spent on this is NOTHIN!!! These people are moving some serious weight and doing it on a consistent basis! They're changing the game and you want to bitch?! For real do you think this place is FLAWLESS? Yes it sucks that your number was called, but hey, it happens to the best of us on our worst day. That's the risk....dude didn't scam you for a measly couple thousand dollars at the most! Dude you have no common sense and your claim is false! You burned a good bridge to be able to cross once in a while!!
Just curious........how much was your order for, what size was it?
10 grams? LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope your right whiteout! Pulled the trigger a few days ago while the site was up... really counting on this one. The prices do seem too good to be true in comparison to some other vendors... If it does come best believe I will leave a FULL review.
They're cool bro, you just have to be patient.
Your shit will get to you...
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Can anyone comment on the quality from packages order 10~ days ago? I'm pretty nervous after reading that review that just trashed DutchTrade's product.
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HI guys,
Product was ***REMOVED BY ADMIN FOR REVEALING PACKAGING INFO*** T
Just letting you know that the review about our stealth is deleted from our vendor page.
Also mister 7102 and Whiteout, thanks for the feedback-- ya'll surely appreciated as our loyal customers BIG TIME!!
Oh well, even a good vendor isn't able to pleased everyone. :)
SR seems to be back up again, so we're looking forward to receiving your orders again!
-DTC
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Can anyone comment on the quality from packages order 10~ days ago? I'm pretty nervous after reading that review that just trashed DutchTrade's product.
my quick review
ship time5/5-<10days wicked fast imo
stealth-3/5; glue part very weak (-1), could use tape within the pack ie idk if it would be too difficult to tape the end from the inside by leaving 1/2 of the tape applied upside down and when closed you apply pressure an inch below the flap to seal it. ; my pack did not have mbb (-1). very disappointed as vendor said to use mbb some time ago (on this thread); smart stealth other than that
product-?/5-little to no odor, high ratio of chunks 95%/dust. does not have sand like quality, but rather shimmery shinny partials/very fine very small sand like if that (reminds me of glittery lotion girls use) that shimmer shit. clear crystals and not milky white.
i have some grips as the vendor did say mbb and 10% were going to be used, but neither were true. (mods) edit if needed
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reagent test that shit please.
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yes please someone with high post count please test it and let us know the results!
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i tested the grey/white crystal batch..one which i received was mostly chunks and not big rocks.
smoked and fizzed nicely :)
with strong colors.
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Anybody think that dutch trade is dutchaanbod?
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subscribed
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Anybody think that dutch trade is dutchaanbod?
nope.
though even is he is. he has listings up right now on dutchaanbod profile.
but on DT he is cheaper..and with 10%.
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Anybody think that dutch trade is dutchaanbod?
My guess is that they know each other in real life and that dutchaanbod kind of mentored him but that's just speculation.
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Whoa guys, chill the fuck out! Don't be climbing down Kaleidoscope's throat. He has a valid reason to be PISSED. As do I. In just about 2 years I haven't missed a SINGLE order with the exception of this one VERY small order of 5 grams from DutchTrade. He admits that they never left his country, and no other packs have been missing. That means the problem is on HIS end. If it's 50/50 risk, how come 50% of his packages don't go missing? Alright, that last question was a bit overkill, but you get the point.
I HAVE NOT FE. Am I in the wrong too? Am I NOT supposed to be pissed because I don't have my drugs and this person has held up my money for EVER, AND IS RUINING MY BUYER'S STATS?
Grow up.
You've received your packs, and I DO understand you being cynical of someone saying they didn't receive their shit when everyone else is and it's fire! I've been in your shoes. Honestly though, having received a note from the post office to come pick up and sign for your overseas package, usually indicates it's arrived. He finalized TO DO DT A FAVOR! I KNOW it's generally not a good thing to finalize before checking the product, but you yourself said you FE for him without an issue. You can bet your ass you'd be upset if your shit didn't arrive, and he waited to Finalize till(as far as he knew) it was here.
Honestly, it's a shitty situation for everyone. I'd like to say that DutchTrade has been SUPER polite, but unyielding on only giving 50%. That would be fair had it been an individual pack that went missing, or if it got caught in US customs, but he said they never left his country and it was nearly a dozen packs. That DOES mean the problem was on his end. That means I DID NOT share 50% of the risk. I've NEVER lost a pack. EVER. Till now.
I'm really livid. I'm not being rude to anyone or cussing AT anyone. I AM saying that Kaleidoscope has a valid reason to be SUPER pissed. DutchTrade is a good vendor and everyone else is getting their stuff. He DID however, miss out on an opportunity to rise above the rest and become one of the truly great vendors by fixing a problem for a few established members, who had issues THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. He missed that boat, and that's ok. All of you are STILL getting great deals, just understand, that if something goes wrong, there's NO support for you. You take the loss of cash, or buyer stats, or both.
I won't go slandering him, but I CERTAINLY won't order from him again.
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Weird that people are trying to trash DT's product. Must be lying, because the gear I got a couple weeks ago was fucking fire and everyone I sold it to told me it was the best MDMA they've ever had.
Just ordered another 30g from DT. Will post another review upon arrival
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theres been a good amount of people that have received since m yonday according to his main page... but only a few actually speaking in here? :o
I have faith in DT and will report as soon as it arrives!
to those of you that have tracked your pack were you able to track it before it gets to customs? I ordered last week an it was suppose to go out the next day or so and the tracking number provided still doesnt work?
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GOT MY PACKAGE! I'm sooooo happy! 10 grams to east coast US in just 6 days (business). Amazing vendor. Product looks good. Will update with taste test soon.
Also, the package is very stealthy. Will update with quality sometime this week.
I was scared for a second considering the very few complaints here. I took them too seriously I guess. DutchTrade has exceeded my expectations in every way. Will definitely do business with him again in the near future.
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GOT MY PACKAGE! I'm sooooo happy! 10 grams to east coast US in just 6 days (business). Amazing vendor. Product looks good. Will update with taste test soon.
Also, the package is very stealthy. Will update with quality sometime this week.
I was scared for a second considering the very few complaints here. I took them too seriously I guess. DutchTrade has exceeded my expectations in every way. Will definitely do business with him again in the near future.
Good to hear!
Pics or it didnt happen ;D Please!
is the 10% extra thing still on?
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GOT MY PACKAGE! I'm sooooo happy! 10 grams to east coast US in just 6 days (business). Amazing vendor. Product looks good. Will update with taste test soon.
Also, the package is very stealthy. Will update with quality sometime this week.
I was scared for a second considering the very few complaints here. I took them too seriously I guess. DutchTrade has exceeded my expectations in every way. Will definitely do business with him again in the near future.
Good to hear!
Pics or it didnt happen ;D Please!
is the 10% extra thing still on?
I'll take a pic when I cut the package open tomorrow. Then I'll immediately weight it. It's double sealed but I can still catch a whiff of it. :)
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
It was in a box. I certainly couldn't smell it until I tore up the whole package and finally got to the product. It's a really well sealed package. I peeled 2 layers to get to the "2 bags". That's enough protection.
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GOT MY PACKAGE! I'm sooooo happy! 10 grams to east coast US in just 6 days (business). Amazing vendor. Product looks good. Will update with taste test soon.
Also, the package is very stealthy. Will update with quality sometime this week.
I was scared for a second considering the very few complaints here. I took them too seriously I guess. DutchTrade has exceeded my expectations in every way. Will definitely do business with him again in the near future.
Good to hear!
Pics or it didnt happen ;D Please!
is the 10% extra thing still on?
I'll take a pic when I cut the package open tomorrow. Then I'll immediately weight it. It's double sealed but I can still catch a whiff of it. :)
Thanks! Much appreciated! +1 for you!
Looks like a lot of people received today... hoping more reviews come in.
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
Pulled the trigger on a 50g pack today...
50g made it here a few days ago safe and sound. One rock was 7 grams. YES-A 7 GRAM ROCK.
This vendor continues to impress. Keep it up.
100g made it safe and sound to the US again. This time with much bigger rocks than in the previous 50 pack and other 30 packs I've ordered. Batch looks to be the same.
For those asking MBB was NOT used.
On a side note I have another 100g in transit which was placed a few days after so I should be updating here any day now on current stock.
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
It was in a box. I certainly couldn't smell it until I tore up the whole package and finally got to the product. It's a really well sealed package. I peeled 2 layers to get to the "2 bags". That's enough protection.
1) The dogs can smell that.
2) Customs is way more likely to take an interest in a box
He just needs to use MBBs that don't have any residue on the outside. All of that needs to be put into clean envelopes, flexible if possible. The goal is to avoid the extra and the dogs.
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
It was in a box. I certainly couldn't smell it until I tore up the whole package and finally got to the product. It's a really well sealed package. I peeled 2 layers to get to the "2 bags". That's enough protection.
Same experience and opinion here.
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GOT MY PACKAGE! I'm sooooo happy! 10 grams to east coast US in just 6 days (business). Amazing vendor. Product looks good. Will update with taste test soon.
Also, the package is very stealthy. Will update with quality sometime this week.
I was scared for a second considering the very few complaints here. I took them too seriously I guess. DutchTrade has exceeded my expectations in every way. Will definitely do business with him again in the near future.
Good to hear!
Pics or it didnt happen ;D Please!
is the 10% extra thing still on?
I received 10% extra on my last order. I wouldn't expect to get it though, I'd just be happy if it's there. It was really only supposed to be for their first 300 orders and they are well beyond that.
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theres been a good amount of people that have received since m yonday according to his main page... but only a few actually speaking in here? :o
I have faith in DT and will report as soon as it arrives!
to those of you that have tracked your pack were you able to track it before it gets to customs? I ordered last week an it was suppose to go out the next day or so and the tracking number provided still doesnt work?
Please see my earlier post for details, but to reiterate--no it isn't always available. Sometimes you'll be able to track when it leaves Germany but other times it won't show up on USPS.com till it is in your city.
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Dogs have a ridiculously good sense of smell, perhaps thousands of times better than humans. Somebody on the board actually got a drug dog and did tests with things like MDMA in 1x, 2x and 3x vacuum seals. The dog went crazy for the MDMA.
MBBs cost like $0.20/ea. Night and day compared to plastic. There are some good threads on this board about them.
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
So he still does not use MBBs? Very sad to hear that because I was in the belief that he has moved on to use MBBs by now.
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
So he still does not use MBBs? Very sad to hear that because I was in the belief that he has moved on to use MBBs by now.
my pack did not have mbb. it was sent out last week. i was under the impression that "improved" stealth and mbb were being used. i can not comment on the "improved" stealth as this is my first order, but the rattling was not an issue in my case. there is more than 1 person who deals with pm and dt has a team as i have 3 messages from dt that says mbb were being used as well as adding it in my pgp. possibly i got an "old" pack that did not have the mbb.
"Hi X,
we started using other bags from last week, so it could be that your package was sent with the old stealth....
Again, we're very sorry about this inconvenience.
Best Regards
-DTC"
hope that helps
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Are these 100G packages requiring signature? Would like to know.
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Are these 100G packages requiring signature? Would like to know.
Yes, all of mine to the states require signature (they have tracking and are registered mail).
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theres been a good amount of people that have received since m yonday according to his main page... but only a few actually speaking in here? :o
I have faith in DT and will report as soon as it arrives!
to those of you that have tracked your pack were you able to track it before it gets to customs? I ordered last week an it was suppose to go out the next day or so and the tracking number provided still doesnt work?
Please see my earlier post for details, but to reiterate--no it isn't always available. Sometimes you'll be able to track when it leaves Germany but other times it won't show up on USPS.com till it is in your city.
Thanks for the info! +1 to you sir!
Can you comment of the color of the crystal and quality?
Ive read various reports of color... some saying blue/greyish... some saying clear white, some saying smokey?
Looking forward to pics from the guy that posted yesterday!
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Welcome aboard. :)
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theres been a good amount of people that have received since m yonday according to his main page... but only a few actually speaking in here? :o
I have faith in DT and will report as soon as it arrives!
to those of you that have tracked your pack were you able to track it before it gets to customs? I ordered last week an it was suppose to go out the next day or so and the tracking number provided still doesnt work?
Please see my earlier post for details, but to reiterate--no it isn't always available. Sometimes you'll be able to track when it leaves Germany but other times it won't show up on USPS.com till it is in your city.
Thanks for the info! +1 to you sir!
Can you comment of the color of the crystal and quality?
Ive read various reports of color... some saying blue/greyish... some saying clear white, some saying smokey?
Looking forward to pics from the guy that posted yesterday!
Sure, color... well... I'm sure a picture could describe it better than words: http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/UW5O.png
As far as quality, this is top notch gear. If you're bored look at my previous posts and you can see what I've tried. There's a reason I keep coming back.
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Beautiful pic. I'd order some if it wasn't for the risk of a controlled delivery and jail lol.
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Slirp, I asked him to not use T&T on my 50g order previously so I wouldn't have to sign and he agreed. If you have good buyer stats ask him, because I definitely wont take the risk of signing for it.
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aaannddd he just lost an order. Can still smell through 2 bags? That means the dogs can too. Not taking that risk.
So he still does not use MBBs? Very sad to hear that because I was in the belief that he has moved on to use MBBs by now.
my pack did not have mbb. it was sent out last week. i was under the impression that "improved" stealth and mbb were being used. i can not comment on the "improved" stealth as this is my first order, but the rattling was not an issue in my case. there is more than 1 person who deals with pm and dt has a team as i have 3 messages from dt that says mbb were being used as well as adding it in my pgp. possibly i got an "old" pack that did not have the mbb.
"Hi X,
we started using other bags from last week, so it could be that your package was sent with the old stealth....
Again, we're very sorry about this inconvenience.
Best Regards
-DTC"
hope that helps
We that explains! Thanks for the quick clarification +1! It would sound like an very understandable reason.
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Slirp, I asked him to not use T&T on my 50g order previously so I wouldn't have to sign and he agreed. If you have good buyer stats ask him, because I definitely wont take the risk of signing for it.
i did this too, but be prepared for a 0% refund if its a no show. you might consider ItalianMafiaBrussels as the seller provides a 50% refund with no track. dutchtrade is cheaper so u got to consider that too. anyways my pack arrived
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Thanks guys.
I think I'd just stick with 10g anyway. You'd think that would enough to last years but girlfriend+friends+redosing when you're high means it won't last forever. Still, I figure 10g is less of a loss if the package gets lost and less of a risk if the package gets caught.
I'm a bit uneasy about shipments from Germany now ... sounds like some packs are now getting stopped although if they are getting stopped on the German side then maybe that at least means no controlled delivery.
I may also just pay a premium and go with CloudSufer. He has treated me very well in the past, his stealth is top notch and his prices have come down.
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It's painful to see everyone getting their shipments so fast on the feedback page and i'm on my 14th day in transit tomorrow. I guess thats not too bad to US west :-\ Just as long as it arrives safe i guess.
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Came out to 11 grams! Sold some and already made my money back. Pic of the rest http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/fKuK.jpg
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Just placed an order for 100G, will keep everyone updated as soon as it arrives.
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DTC product is great and you can't beat the pricing. Now on my 4th order with them. Very satisfied!
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Came out to 11 grams! Sold some and already made my money back. Pic of the rest http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/fKuK.jpg
Looks bomb! +1 for the pic
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more mdma. can never get enough. :)
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Placed my first order ever on SR with these guys. 10g to start. Hopefully i will receive it here in the states. Cheers guys
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Ordered another 200 grams after previous success with 300 grams. Here's looking to you, DutchTrade!
200 grams arrived 11 days after being marked in transit, 5 days from the date tracking posted from Germany. Some chunks as big as 26 grams! Can't wait to place my next order :D
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Hi Guys,
we don't want to keep responding to the same negative posts every time but just to clarify thisworld's post:
we never said the packages didn't leave our country, as well as we never said it was close to a dozen packages.
There were some packages from that shipping date that didn't reach their destination (less than 6 packages) and we did say they Might have been intercepted. we understand the inconvenience but no matter what the reason, we only guarantee a 50% refund (it's the risk of being on the road for both parties).
Our mbb supplier is currently out of stock, so we're waiting on him to be able to provide mbb.
The special offer of 10% extra is still available!
IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
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as from last week we're using a new key
PLEASE USE OUR NEW KEY FOR YOUR ORDERS, OTHERWISE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DECRYPT YOUR ADDRESS/MESSAGE.
As from this coming Monday we won't be able to decrypt the orders/messages that used our old key anymore.
NEW KEY:::
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Glad to hear that yall are close to having the mbb bags. My last pack of 20 was amazing, and i will be returning for a 50 pack coming Monday or Tuesday.
Also, it was greatly appreciated that you gave 10% for free. And even more appreciated that you are still doing the 10% for free.
You are currently on a climb that will soon be over.
ATTENTION!!! DTC is gonna be at the TOP coming soon. Very professional. ATTENTION!!!
If you have any doubts, you shouldn't.
DTC is legit.
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Just got another nice pack from DTC. This one was about 2 weeks to east coast Usa. This stuff looks lighter than the stuff I got a couple months ago, which was amazing quality. No doubt this is too. This is not a complaint , but simply a fact: I have not received %10 extra yet. It's been 6% or 7% each time. No worries though, fucking shit is top quality for cheap. Free stuff is, well, free. But I wouldn't want anyone to actually count on or depend on the extra 10% as their profit or anything, cuz I haven't seen it yet. I am happy with DTC as always. Great vender. Keep it up son.
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DTC are true business men (or women). Quality product and great communication.
I placed my first order with them not too long ago and they delivered on everything. Some of the nicest MDMA crystals i've ever seen.
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Just placed first order with him, few days ago
I haven't gotten a response from him at all but is in transit but I'm not worried only been 3 days.
Ill update as things go.
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Hi Guys,
Things are going very good on the road for us. Thanks to all of you!
For our safety as well as for all our customers, we're taking a short break of 1.5/2 weeks. Hopefully by then our mbb supplier has new stock so we can provide the promised packing/stealth and service. All confirmed orders are packed and will be sent out this weekend.
We're looking forward to receiving your orders and doing business with all of you again within 2 weeks.
Please note that our new key must be used by then, to be able to decrypt and deliver your order!
Your messages will be answered within the regular 48 hours.
-DTC
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After a mini mental debate on whether to choose DT or Interways for my first 100 pack, I decided on DT and it's a decision that I'm incredibly Grateful for making. I placed the order shortly before the DDOS fiasco, so naturally I was biting my nails for a few days. But behold, in 9 days a letter from grand ol' Deutschland shows up :) I chose the Track&Trace option, so I was expecting to have to sign and be at a greater risk for a CD. I was greatly relieved when I went down to the RLO office and simply had to flash my card in order to get the package (I live at my college). Our resident assistant, always eager to nab us potsmokers, unwittingly handed me enough MDMA to get our entire dorm rolling!
Ran up the stairs, down the hall, slammed the door, locked it twice, tore it open, weighed the rocks, and became overwhelmed with happiness. I swear I haven't felt like that since I was six years old on christmas.
DTC I love you all! Got a chunk weighing in at 64 grams! Also got a 25, a 16, and a 5.(approx. weights) I had no idea that the extra 10% was still going on, thanks to your unexpected generosity I'll be paying it forward. There's gonna be at least a hundred people rolling for free this weekend ;)
Packaging: 5/5 didn't receive the new packs with mylar, but quadruple sealed if the stealth counts as a layer.
Shipping: 5/5 9 days, didn't have to sign for package even though I got a tracking number
Stealth: 5/5 I've familiar with this particular method, and it's never failed IME
Communication: 5/5 Always quick responses, and never irked by my admittedly bothersome inquiries. Fluent english.
Product: 5/5 Biggest rocks I've ever laid eyes on, and IMO the quality is better than Interways. Had a close friend compare it to his first time. Damn that feels good :) I was taught how to wash, and may post my results later.
Price: 6/5 I love doing the thizzle dance and knowing that it only cost me $1.75 :) Selling $5 rolls will make it a snap paying back those pesky college loans for this semester. Can't thank you enough for that, debt sucks.
Overall: 6/5 I'm not using any other mdma vendor, ever again. Ever. Was about to hit post and literally just saw the update that they're gonna be gone for a few weeks, guess I'll just have to wait :)
The only complaint I can make is that I was asked to FE, but the tracking number was a big reassurance for that aspect.
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I'll be sure to check back in 2 weeks!
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Received my package today! I'm so happy! It was my first international order and am glad I chose DT.
Packaging: 5/5 - As stated above pretty it's much quadruple sealed.
Shipping: 4/5 - 15 days to US best coast. I guess mine just took a little longer then most but it arrived safe and sound.
Stealth: 5/5 - I might end up using this later lol. freakin awesome.
Communication: 5/5 - Quick responses even when SR was going down all the time for a few days. And even though I was a newb to SR they treated me with respect.
Product: 5/5 - Straight rocks and crystals son! smells and tastes like fire! I will be testing for real Sat night :D
Price: 8/5 - Hands down best price/quality ratio for MDMA on SR.
Overall: 6/5 - So glad I took a chance on DutchTrade! They really came through and will be my only MDMA supplier for 5g or more. I'm kicking myself for not ordering more.
If you are on the fence about this vendor don't be. When the new listing come up in 2 weeks order with confidence. 8)
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Text convo with person I sold to:
Buyer: Fantastic.
Me: Really? Hell yeah!
Buyer: Yeah man. Amazing.
Me: That's what's up.
This is from a hippie that goes to all sorts of raves, concerts, and festivals (like bonaroo and electric forest). He's tried all sorts of stuff and even does reagent tests. When I sold it to him, I didn't think he'd like it so much because of how much experience he has. I was pleasantly surprised to receive these texts. Can't wait to try it myself but it's much too soon. I like to wait at least 1-3 months.
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Alright so I've been seeing nothing but stellar reviews on DutchTrade, but I don't know what to think after my most recent dealings with him. **For the record I have ordered from him before and it took 1 week exactly.. this was maybe a month ago** My most recent pack was marked "in transit" on April 25th. I am currently on day 16, and auto finalize is in 22 hours. I haven't received anything yet, and I have sent 3 messages to DT over the last 20 days and have received NO RESPONSE.
What the fuck? Is anybody else having this kind of issue with him? My last transaction went so smoothly, he was responsive, quick, and very professional. I don't know what to think of this or what to do in the resolution center. Do I ask for a refund or extend? This is only the 2nd time I've had to go to resolution :(
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Alright so I've been seeing nothing but stellar reviews on DutchTrade, but I don't know what to think after my most recent dealings with him. **For the record I have ordered from him before and it took 1 week exactly.. this was maybe a month ago** My most recent pack was marked "in transit" on April 25th. I am currently on day 16, and auto finalize is in 22 hours. I haven't received anything yet, and I have sent 3 messages to DT over the last 20 days and have received NO RESPONSE.
What the fuck? Is anybody else having this kind of issue with him? My last transaction went so smoothly, he was responsive, quick, and very professional. I don't know what to think of this or what to do in the resolution center. Do I ask for a refund or extend? This is only the 2nd time I've had to go to resolution :(
As stated on his vendor page it can take up to anywhere from 7-30(work days).
This means that you should extend for something like 10-14 days.
If you ask for a refund it will most likely not be granted since its not out of that time.
Just relax, your pack is gonna come. They almost always do.
Out of all my orders on SR i have not lost a package. And 90% of my orders are overseas
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Alright so I've been seeing nothing but stellar reviews on DutchTrade, but I don't know what to think after my most recent dealings with him. **For the record I have ordered from him before and it took 1 week exactly.. this was maybe a month ago** My most recent pack was marked "in transit" on April 25th. I am currently on day 16, and auto finalize is in 22 hours. I haven't received anything yet, and I have sent 3 messages to DT over the last 20 days and have received NO RESPONSE.
What the fuck? Is anybody else having this kind of issue with him? My last transaction went so smoothly, he was responsive, quick, and very professional. I don't know what to think of this or what to do in the resolution center. Do I ask for a refund or extend? This is only the 2nd time I've had to go to resolution :(
As stated on his vendor page it can take up to anywhere from 7-30(work days).
This means that you should extend for something like 10-14 days.
If you ask for a refund it will most likely not be granted since its not out of that time.
Just relax, your pack is gonna come. They almost always do.
Out of all my orders on SR i have not lost a package. And 90% of my orders are overseas
Righteous.. thanks for the comforting words. I've only had one order NOT come out of 17. I'm just a little disheartened because he hasn't bothered to message back.
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Dutch Trade is legit. Received his product in about 2 weeks to North America. Tested it last night with some of my friends and it was amazing. Solid clean roll, top quality like the gear I got from PF last year. This vendor deserves your business.
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
Pulled the trigger on a 50g pack today...
50g made it here a few days ago safe and sound. One rock was 7 grams. YES-A 7 GRAM ROCK.
This vendor continues to impress. Keep it up.
100g made it safe and sound to the US again. This time with much bigger rocks than in the previous 50 pack and other 30 packs I've ordered. Batch looks to be the same.
For those asking MBB was NOT used.
On a side note I have another 100g in transit which was placed a few days after so I should be updating here any day now on current stock.
The last 100g order made it here the other day. Batch looks way different. Here is a picture:
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/hXci.png (there's about 90g of rock there)
Still no MBB, but DTC has addressed that in previous posts.
We'll be waiting for their return...
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anyone notice the 2 exact same feedbacks today? those look pretty bad.... Still have faith in DT though, only time will tell.
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
Pulled the trigger on a 50g pack today...
50g made it here a few days ago safe and sound. One rock was 7 grams. YES-A 7 GRAM ROCK.
This vendor continues to impress. Keep it up.
100g made it safe and sound to the US again. This time with much bigger rocks than in the previous 50 pack and other 30 packs I've ordered. Batch looks to be the same.
For those asking MBB was NOT used.
On a side note I have another 100g in transit which was placed a few days after so I should be updating here any day now on current stock.
The last 100g order made it here the other day. Batch looks way different. Here is a picture:
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/hXci.png (there's about 90g of rock there)
Still no MBB, but DTC has addressed that in previous posts.
We'll be waiting for their return...
Thanks for the pic! +1
Looks way dark grey / purple /blackish... Ive herd many mixed reviews in the past IRL before i even knew of this place about purple / black mdma... alot of people sware by it being the best there is... though then you got a few others online that say that its impure... would love for you to do a wash and post your results. I plan on doing a wash on the the small sample i ordered, will also post results. Hoping it gets here this week but who knows.
Would love some reviews from people that have received this week... like test results, trip reports, etc... not that its really worth anything but ill +1 anyone that provides good info or pics.
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Hey im sorry but what the hell is MMB?
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Hey im sorry but what the hell is MMB?
Don't be sorry, it's MBB and stands for moisture barrier bags.
Read up on it here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
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Ive also ordered a few packs from DTC, they arrived in about 8-9 business days for me (east coast USA). No problem with the stealth whatsoever, and yes, they had to be signed for. one of them had 9% extra, the other had 11%, banging product for the price. it was a smokey-grey crystal, pretty light in color. smells like a safrole base though. overall, I was very pleased, as this was my first transaction with him. I will definitely be back, as soon as hes done with his vacation.
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Hey so im kind of wondering I placed an order with him 6 days ago or so, sent him a little "hey I place an order and saw you marked it in transit rock on" kind of thing. I told him not to give me the tracking number unless it becomes a long time...and in 6 days he hasnt said any thing back to me? im confused I just sent him another message saying "hey can you let me know were all good and what not" Cuz some vendors have thee rules that may be over looked, It was just odd that I had seen he had seen my message bt didnt respond.
I dont feel too worried yet i guess since he has such good reviews but can anyone else shed light on this?
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still has zero ttransactions?
Somebody pull the trigger on this guy and let us know. The prices are too good to be true (which usually means they are )!
Pulled the trigger today. Will let you guys know how it goes...
3x 10g delivered weighting a total of 33.21g made it safe to the US quickly.
Another 30g + a little extra to the US again.
ALSO: THOSE THAT QUESTION / HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRACKING:
My package did not need signature and it did NOT update on USPS. Remember, they SUCK. They are bleeding money. They don't always scan your stuff. Not vendors fault.
Pulled the trigger on a 50g pack today...
50g made it here a few days ago safe and sound. One rock was 7 grams. YES-A 7 GRAM ROCK.
This vendor continues to impress. Keep it up.
100g made it safe and sound to the US again. This time with much bigger rocks than in the previous 50 pack and other 30 packs I've ordered. Batch looks to be the same.
For those asking MBB was NOT used.
On a side note I have another 100g in transit which was placed a few days after so I should be updating here any day now on current stock.
The last 100g order made it here the other day. Batch looks way different. Here is a picture:
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/hXci.png (there's about 90g of rock there)
Still no MBB, but DTC has addressed that in previous posts.
We'll be waiting for their return...
Any trip reports? or can you comment on quality? that pic does look pretty dark
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Still on the old stuff. Haven't tried it yet but it does look very unique. I might have to pass some one to people to give a shot since it will be a bit till I roll next.
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Just wanted to report in!
Received my order in slightly less than 2 weeks... mostly chunks... light champagne color, tested great on all reagent tests... 10% over! Will report back on trip reports, and honestly this stuff doesnt look like it needs much of a wash but I still will perform one maybe this weekend and report back on results. Overall very happy with DT! Thanks!
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Hey so im kind of wondering I placed an order with him 6 days ago or so, sent him a little "hey I place an order and saw you marked it in transit rock on" kind of thing. I told him not to give me the tracking number unless it becomes a long time...and in 6 days he hasnt said any thing back to me? im confused I just sent him another message saying "hey can you let me know were all good and what not" Cuz some vendors have thee rules that may be over looked, It was just odd that I had seen he had seen my message bt didnt respond.
I dont feel too worried yet i guess since he has such good reviews but can anyone else shed light on this?
He responded were all good. I always get a bit nervous when I dont hear anything but were golden!
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Has anyone actually utilized the tracking #s before? I doubt the accuracy of them are very good. Any input?
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anyone notice the 2 exact same feedbacks today? those look pretty bad.... Still have faith in DT though, only time will tell.
two exact feedbacks means the person ordered two different listings or the same listing x2 and just wrote the
same review for both
i do it all the time when ordering multiple listings from the same vendor, relax
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Has anyone actually utilized the tracking #s before? I doubt the accuracy of them are very good. Any input?
I used it on my last order because i was out of town and wonted to see if it had arrived and i was not home to sign... When i checked(using the usps site) i was impressed at the information given..
It showed scans from Germany, to customs, to X usps hub, to XX usps hub, to delivered and showed dates!!
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Has anyone actually utilized the tracking #s before? I doubt the accuracy of them are very good. Any input?
I used it on my last order because i was out of town and wonted to see if it had arrived and i was not home to sign... When i checked(using the usps site) i was impressed at the information given..
It showed scans from Germany, to customs, to X usps hub, to XX usps hub, to delivered and showed dates!!
What was your average delivery time if you don't mind me asking? How did you track it? Through a proxy at public wifi?
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The last 100g order made it here the other day. Batch looks way different. Here is a picture:
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/hXci.png (there's about 90g of rock there)
Still no MBB, but DTC has addressed that in previous posts.
We'll be waiting for their return...
My 10g looked like that, only broken down into reasonably big crystals for 10g. I found it a little trippier than some other MDMA I've had, but definitely fire gear. Mine stank as well, strongest smelling MDMA I've ever had. It crushed down into a brown tinged powder.
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Has anyone actually utilized the tracking #s before? I doubt the accuracy of them are very good. Any input?
I had to utilize mine, and it worked out well. I'm in the US, and once it hits the US it gets handed over to USPS I guess. You will likely need to sign for it. If anyone is in the US and does not want to sign for it, you may need to ask for it not to have tracking.
Time to ship to where I am has been better than past vendors. I've ordered from 6 different international vendors for MDMA, and DutchTrade's shipping was faster and communication seemed to be much better than most of them.
Product looks like the image above (large rocks mostly) - tested with Marquis/Mecke/Simon and all the colors came out right, solid colors. My friends who tested it personally enjoyed it.
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Has anyone actually utilized the tracking #s before? I doubt the accuracy of them are very good. Any input?
I used it on my last order because i was out of town and wonted to see if it had arrived and i was not home to sign... When i checked(using the usps site) i was impressed at the information given..
It showed scans from Germany, to customs, to X usps hub, to XX usps hub, to delivered and showed dates!!
What was your average delivery time if you don't mind me asking? How did you track it? Through a proxy at public wifi?
Iv ordered 3 packs and longest shipping to eastern USA was around 12-14 total days....
I tracked it at a friends house who had no clue.. But public wifi should be ok... im not shur if a proxy is like going through Tor but i know you should never track through Tor!! And personally i would never look up a tracked pack unless its been well over 2weeks...
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i just want to come back and thank dutch one more time... 50 pack came in 9 days + 10%. biggest rock was 11 g's :) everybody loves it and it made my bday weekend incredible
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Communication - 5/5 - Dutch was very friendly and accomdating through the whole order, very surprised and pleased with his team.
Shipping - 5/5 - Took 10 business days to reach both of my destinations which is very reasonable in my eyes. US.
Stealth - 5/5 - I've seen this stealth before but in different variations, definitely gets the job done but MBB is always an extra step that could be taken. He has already addressed this.
Product - 5/5 - Very crystal clean, smells beautiful (not too strong), and weight was definitely over by 10% which is always a plus.
Overall - 7/5 - Would definitely order again from Dutch, especially if he steps his stealth up another notch I can see him taking the top spot! Keep it up.
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Looks like Dutch will be back after the weekend. I really really hope MBB will be used...
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I am kind of running into unsetteling issues. I places and order that was marked in transit about 12-13 days ago and was given tracking number and it has still yet to show up on either german or USPS tracking.
I normally am really patient but I am seeing people posting on here and in SR that they have recieved there packs in less days than what I am currently experience and the fact that my tracing number still hasnt shown up as a valid number makes me very uneasy. I have messaged him about checking the number but he assures me it is the right onw. I know all I really can do is wait but has any one else experience major delays in tracking numbers showing info?
Any insight would be really helpful.
Thank you
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I am kind of running into unsetteling issues. I places and order that was marked in transit about 12-13 days ago and was given tracking number and it has still yet to show up on either german or USPS tracking.
I normally am really patient but I am seeing people posting on here and in SR that they have recieved there packs in less days than what I am currently experience and the fact that my tracing number still hasnt shown up as a valid number makes me very uneasy. I have messaged him about checking the number but he assures me it is the right onw. I know all I really can do is wait but has any one else experience major delays in tracking numbers showing info?
Any insight would be really helpful.
Thank you
my tracking numbers usually do that and will update the day it arrives in my town ha
dont worry about it man
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Package came to east coast in 9 business days. Stealth was good and it will only be better now with MBB. Unbeatable price and shipping time. Dutchtrade is a great vendor. Do not hesitate to buy
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Gunna be ordering 10g tonight, just short .005 btc. Hoping someone in the spare coin thread will hook it up. 8)
Edit: Thank you HEATFan for hooking me up!! 10g just ordered.
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Shit man I wish it wasn't so damn risky to go from NL - USA. You guys really have some great deals on psychadelics
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Shit man I wish it wasn't so damn risky to go from NL - USA. You guys really have some great deals on psychadelics
I agree, I've been reading to order domestic. But I've seriously been looking at Dutchtrade the whole time, and I plan on ordering from 'em when the time comes
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Shit man I wish it wasn't so damn risky to go from NL - USA. You guys really have some great deals on psychadelics
what do you mean...?
they ship from germany. and dont sell psychs or am i missing something?
wrong vendor thread?
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Ordered 10g x3 of them and due to a shipping error DT only sent a single 10g package but when I contacted him he said he would make it right. The amazing thing is the first pack came in just 6 days, although the other 20g are taking longer than that, hopefully will be here this week.
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Shit man I wish it wasn't so damn risky to go from NL - USA. You guys really have some great deals on psychadelics
what do you mean...?
they ship from germany. and dont sell psychs or am i missing something?
wrong vendor thread?
Yeah, this molly comes from Germany, or so I thought.
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Ordered 10g a month or so ago it came and was great .6 over too. I just haven't gotten around to ordering from DT again until yesterday. Another 10g order and already marked 'in transit' Shipping will take forever but im confident it'll get here.
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Plan on placing my first order with DT, looking forward to leaving a review!
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I just placed my 2nd order with DT. I trust it will be as great as the 1st :D
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Sent me tracking for my Molly order pretty damn fast.
Weird 1/5 feedback rating new on his profile:
He want to scam me, He never send my order!!! I know that because i call to the Post office and they told me that my tracking number are from an old international order. And they can't arrive because its to old. Nothing answer on my messages, i wait 3 weeks for get my money back. SR gives me 100% refund.
Never again!!!!!!
No idea what that's about.
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@HiXxY26 Lemme know!
@Moon Fried Hmm I wonder, all the other reviews are 5/5
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Just got in another order. This time 50g.
Will update upon arrival
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"Ordered 100g, received 118.6g. Came in stealthy package containing large crystals. Highly recommend this vendor."
From a 100g order 8 days ago.
Truly amazing that it was hooked up that much.
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"Ordered 100g, received 118.6g. Came in stealthy package containing large crystals. Highly recommend this vendor."
From a 100g order 8 days ago.
Truly amazing that it was hooked up that much.
Wow! I can't wait ::)
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Still holding onto my coins until we get a verification he/they are actually using MBBs now :) Happy summer europeans!
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Still holding my hoarding my coins until we get a verification he actually is using MBBs.
I was going to ask 'em in a message since I've been reading so much about the necessity of them.
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"Ordered 100g, received 118.6g. Came in stealthy package containing large crystals. Highly recommend this vendor."
From a 100g order 8 days ago.
Truly amazing that it was hooked up that much.
Wait, is that a random review or an order you received?
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Just got in another order. This time 50g.
Will update upon arrival
I'm jealous man.....but I just can't order international anymore.
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Just got in another order. This time 50g.
Will update upon arrival
I'm jealous man.....but I just can't order international anymore.
How come? If you don't mind me asking
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Just got in another order. This time 50g.
Will update upon arrival
I'm jealous man.....but I just can't order international anymore.
How come? If you don't mind me asking
I don't have a clean drop. I know that many people just take the risk, but not worth the risk for the cost savings for me personally.
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No idea what that's about.1
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Just got in another order. This time 50g.
Will update upon arrival
I'm jealous man.....but I just can't order international anymore.
How come? If you don't mind me asking
I don't have a clean drop. I know that many people just take the risk, but not worth the risk for the cost savings for me personally.
Clean drop as in a PO box?
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"Ordered 100g, received 118.6g. Came in stealthy package containing large crystals. Highly recommend this vendor."
From a 100g order 8 days ago.
Truly amazing that it was hooked up that much.
Wait, is that a random review or an order you received?
I apologize for misleading some, it was for a random review.
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"Ordered 100g, received 118.6g. Came in stealthy package containing large crystals. Highly recommend this vendor."
From a 100g order 8 days ago.
Truly amazing that it was hooked up that much.
Wait, is that a random review or an order you received?
I apologize for misleading some, it was for a random review.
It's all good, that is quite the hookup though
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Just got in another order. This time 50g.
Will update upon arrival
I'm jealous man.....but I just can't order international anymore.
How come? If you don't mind me asking
I don't have a clean drop. I know that many people just take the risk, but not worth the risk for the cost savings for me personally.
Clean drop as in a PO box?
I'm not clean so if it went to a PO box attached to me (either in my name or if I were the person picking up the pack) then they'd probably go ahead and lock me up with a six-figure bail while the search/trash my house.
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Damn son definitely don't want that happening
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Just wanted to say, placed my first order for 10g from DT, i will report back with the results! Hopefully i won't die from a panic attack in the time being :)
I plan on getting the 50 if this goes good, i'm just curious, should i use a different mailbox for that delivery? I shipped the first to myself because i frequently get out of country packages anyway and figured it would be less suspicious, i also have a clean record.
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Hoping to start doing buisness with you very soon :)
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Just wanted to say, placed my first order for 10g from DT, i will report back with the results! Hopefully i won't die from a panic attack in the time being :)
I plan on getting the 50 if this goes good, i'm just curious, should i use a different mailbox for that delivery? I shipped the first to myself because i frequently get out of country packages anyway and figured it would be less suspicious, i also have a clean record.
Can't wait to hear the results! Sounds like we have the same plans in mind haha ;D
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Dont know if I posted it yet but, I recently got a nice sized order form dutch and I couldnt be happier nor could my serotonin lol There was a slight delay on shipping IDK if it was on the part of the vendor or the point of origins post off but once things started moving came in 4 days I was shocked!
Deff coming back soon! If your considering this guy dont hesitate great communication through and through he is a vendor the should go down in the SR hall of fame is such a thing is a thing
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i have a question about the dutchtrade mdma..i figured id ask here rather than make a new topic..
Is that actually pure mdma they are selling..in the picture they give it just looks like big brown sugar cubes. I showed the pic to my friend who knows about molly and said it looks like garbage and nobody would ever buy that. I tried looking it up myself but came up short.
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Most of the MDMA on SR is very strong and very good but almost none of it is completely pure and without at least some sort of color. If your friend is used to seeing beautiful clear/white crystals then he's likely seeing methylone being sold of MDMA.
Many people on the street look for the MDMA to be brown because if it is brown then it is probably legit MDMA. The brown is probably often from leftover saffrole (a precursor) ... just a small amount of saffrole can probably make the MDMA pretty brown. There's also been gray MDMA on SR that has been good.
Get an ecstasy ez-test (marquis) and test the other stuff your friend can get vs the stuff from SR/DutchTrade. I would be surprised if you don't see a stronger reaction from the stuff from SR. Using the marquis reagent on MDMA will result in purple/black. you can probably reactions on youtube. methylone will turn it yellow.
http://dancesafe.org/health-and-safety/adulterant-screening-kit-instructions
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thank you for clearing up that discrepancy for me. I believe you are right because when I got stuff from my friends guy it took me almost .6 to feel anything and it barely lasted..so yeah it was most likely that other garbage.
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placed my second order, the first was top notch
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thank you for clearing up that discrepancy for me. I believe you are right because when I got stuff from my friends guy it took me almost .6 to feel anything and it barely lasted..so yeah it was most likely that other garbage.
lol. I can't even imagine .6g of real molly. Lots of methylone being sold as MDMA. Damn shame. The synthesis is the same except for the end but labs in China can get away with making it.
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Most of the MDMA on SR is very strong and very good but almost none of it is completely pure and without at least some sort of color. If your friend is used to seeing beautiful clear/white crystals then he's likely seeing methylone being sold of MDMA.
Many people on the street look for the MDMA to be brown because if it is brown then it is probably legit MDMA. The brown is probably often from leftover saffrole (a precursor) ... just a small amount of saffrole can probably make the MDMA pretty brown. There's also been gray MDMA on SR that has been good.
Get an ecstasy ez-test (marquis) and test the other stuff your friend can get vs the stuff from SR/DutchTrade. I would be surprised if you don't see a stronger reaction from the stuff from SR. Using the marquis reagent on MDMA will result in purple/black. you can probably reactions on youtube. methylone will turn it yellow.
http://dancesafe.org/health-and-safety/adulterant-screening-kit-instructions
The colorization of MDMA is simply leftover organic compounds from the synth (yellow, brown, blackish/blueish what I have seen). The colored rocks may look like white powder though when grounded down. Nowadays I usually perform a acetone wash and IPA recrystallization simply because I want to minimize the possible effects of heavy metal residues. While the washing and recrystallization does not remove the residues completely, it sure helps and you get these beautiful almost glass like crystals.
As you said, you cannot distress enough the importance of getting an eztest kit. I know of a case where a guy I know almost died when he was sold a strong stimulant as MDMA. Good thing that he was accompanied with experienced friends who knew something was horribly wrong when he lost consciousness.
What people should know is that you can't trust a vendor for your life. There have been some incidents when a vendor has sold either knowingly or unknowingly something completely different than MDMA. The eztest is a small investment for the safety of you and your friends. People should also know that getting an eztest is not prosecutable in the US neither in EU. Test everything you put inside of you.
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Has anyone else been having problems with DT replying to your msgs? I received a msg from them the day after i placed my order like a week ago saying they were unable to decrypt my address, even though it was marked in transit . Since then I have resent it a few times with a msg to let me know if it went through ok and confirm my order was on the way. I have not heard back from them and am getting kind of worried. :-\
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i have a question about the dutchtrade mdma..i figured id ask here rather than make a new topic..
Is that actually pure mdma they are selling..in the picture they give it just looks like big brown sugar cubes. I showed the pic to my friend who knows about molly and said it looks like garbage and nobody would ever buy that. I tried looking it up myself but came up short.
Ive seen various pics from different dt's batchs... and honestly havent seen one that looks like the pic on his profile...the sample i got was AMAZING very well washed very little sent (sent is usually a sign of impuritys) there where a few very nice chunks the rest was smaller little pebbles some completely clear even the chunks where white shit was FIRE! MUCH PROPS DT!
Also the few lucky homies that got to try it said that it was some of the cleanest shit they have ever taken and we all have had our fair share of bomb molly and shitty M1! lol...
It would be amazing if DT could start picking up some fire L ... and blow everyone elses EXPENSIVE prices.
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Has anyone ordered from DT since he came back and received it yet to the US?
Also, has anyone had issues buying 50g and having to sign for it even when no track/sign was requested? There was at least one guy that complained about having to sign but who knows if he even read that no sign had to be specifically requested.
Lastly, do his 50g orders come in the same package type as his smaller order? Is it splt in two? One of my previous orders with DT had a pretty big bulge in the packaging and it was only 20g.
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Hello,
I was curious how long other took to get their tracking info,
or if tracking info was provided if it needed to be.
Thanks,
Zebra420Kitty
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It takes between 2-3 weeks to receive a package to the USA. I've used DT several times and they always pull thru for me...never a disappointment
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Dutch Trade always comes through for me. Their packages take 10 days to reach me on the east coast! That's been the story for the three orders I've placed with them. Quality is always top notch as well. Plus they provide ten percent extra every time. You really can't that. I love you guys.
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Been wondering what's good with tracking... I ordered it, hasn't been working at all for nearly a week. DT said he would check it for me an hour ago. Not sure what to do yet.
Patience prevails?
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Dutch Trade always comes through for me. Their packages take 10 days to reach me on the east coast! That's been the story for the three orders I've placed with them. Quality is always top notch as well. Plus they provide ten percent extra every time. You really can't that. I love you guys.
Thanks for that! I was about to order but I was wondering if it would be here before Roo ;D
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Has anyone placed an order with Dutchtrade in the past couple of days? I placed an order three days ago. It's still processing... This is unusual. They are usually very fast, and process my order within 24 hours. Maybe I'm just being impatient. Any helpful input would be appreciated! Thanks :)
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Has anyone placed an order with Dutchtrade in the past couple of days? I placed an order three days ago. It's still processing... This is unusual. They are usually very fast, and process my order within 24 hours. Maybe I'm just being impatient. Any helpful input would be appreciated! Thanks :)
i have an order marked in transit on 5/30
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Has anyone placed an order with Dutchtrade in the past couple of days? I placed an order three days ago. It's still processing... This is unusual. They are usually very fast, and process my order within 24 hours. Maybe I'm just being impatient. Any helpful input would be appreciated! Thanks :)
i have an order marked in transit on 5/30
Have you ordered from DT before? If so, how long does an order from them take to reach you usually?
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have an order marked in transit on 5/28 and still no tracking. He pm'd me before the weekend and said he would be sending me the tracking over the weekend but nothing. I pm'd him again but no answer. Have used him before on another account and everything went well but i'm starting to wonder about this time......
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my tracking did not update until the day it reached my city
took about 15 days(including weekends) on my last bulk order to the US
quality was so-so very mellow and not speedy which is a good thing with molly
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I requested no sign and still had to sign for my 50g pack from his first batch.
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I have to say DT is a great vendor. My first order was perfect. The only thing I wish was that they had a little better communication with the buyers. I'm not a vendor but I imagine they receive hundreds of pms a day. Replying to all those would be daunting to anyone. Having a dedicated Customer Service Manager to answer everyones concerns should be a must in this big of operation. There are other vendors that have this like nawlins and it works great.
Just a little feedback from a satisfied customer ;)
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Has anyone placed an order with Dutchtrade in the past couple of days? I placed an order three days ago. It's still processing... This is unusual. They are usually very fast, and process my order within 24 hours. Maybe I'm just being impatient. Any helpful input would be appreciated! Thanks :)
i have an order marked in transit on 5/30
Have you ordered from DT before? If so, how long does an order from them take to reach you usually?
Yes, i have. I believe it was 12 days last time
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that new feedback on DTs sounds like BS but is funny as hell lol
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that new feedback on DTs sounds like BS but is funny as hell lol
It's worth the laugh. Thanks SR!
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I requested no sign and still had to sign for my 50g pack from his first batch.
Was there a tracking number on the package? That would indicate it was sent by registered mail which requires a signature. Were you worried it might be a controlled delivery when it happened?
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Yeah, placed order 2 days ago, says it's processing, messaged him with no answer. Hope it all goes well.
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Tracking took forever to update on the German website. I doubt it's gunna tell me when it hits the US haha. I'm just glad it updated at all, it wasn't budging for almost a week.
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So does he use he same packaging for both 50g+ orders as the 10+?
Does he send multiple packages or stuffs it into the one?
I'm a little concerned seeing as how awesome1126 requested no track/sign and still had to as well.
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After the amazing mdma i had sampled from DT i took the jump again! Looking forward to it again... hoping its the same batch or as high quality as this one... can anyone comment on recent batchs? or people that have recieved recently ?
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Just ordered with DT again.
Subbing this thread so I can keep track of who's receiving and when to expect.
I CAN'T WAIT!!!
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Finally ordered 5G to test DT out. He told me in a PM that they are still waiting for the MBBs though, but the order would be triple vac'd.
I'm located in Northern Europe & Will update upon receiving product.
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Previously stated i did not have tracking,
I have now been given tracking
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what are MBB's? I keep hearing about it. Im planning on ordering 5g from DT soon..this will be my first order on SR. Needless to say..im pumped after reading all the great reviews lol
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what are MBB's? I keep hearing about it. Im planning on ordering 5g from DT soon..this will be my first order on SR. Needless to say..im pumped after reading all the great reviews lol
Moisture Barrier Bags :D
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So does he use he same packaging for both 50g+ orders as the 10+?
Does he send multiple packages or stuffs it into the one?
I'm a little concerned seeing as how awesome1126 requested no track/sign and still had to as well.
Short answer yes....
The 50g order comes in one pack, With the same type stealth as the 10g pack...But the 50g pack stealth is more accommodating....
hope this helps, its hard to explain without explaining the details... But i felt the 50g pack was just as safe as the 10g pack as far as stealth goes
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So anyone know if DT's pgp key on his page is legit? placed a order encrypted with the one i had before about a month or 2 ago... has he updated since? Also started a new ring on my keys to see if i could import it there but i cant? it reads it but doesnt add it.
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TooManyDabs1
I was just able to import DT's key into GPG4USB
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I know that 50G orders coming in one package but do 100 gram orders get split into two or still just one? I got a little confused by someones post.
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I know that 50G orders coming in one package but do 100 gram orders get split into two or still just one? I got a little confused by someones post.
Just one. Confusion probably comes from those who request it to be split.
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TooManyDabs1
I was just able to import DT's key into GPG4USB
+1 I just tried that hopefully it works...
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Is his MDMA really as dark as it is in his pictures? Which means he doesn't put it through a chemical bath after the synth? I hate having dark MDMA and so do my customers
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Placing a 100g order here in the next week, wondering what you guys think in terms of quality and overall, should I go with DutchTrade or Subtickle? Looking for any kind of information. Thanks:)
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I know that 50G orders coming in one package but do 100 gram orders get split into two or still just one? I got a little confused by someones post.
Just one. Confusion probably comes from those who request it to be split.
Wow his 100g pack comes in 1 package? Here I am freaking out how much my 20g order was bulging out the sides... Can't imagine 100g in the same packaging.
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Is his MDMA really as dark as it is in his pictures? Which means he doesn't put it through a chemical bath after the synth? I hate having dark MDMA and so do my customers
It seems to depend on the batch. Mine was very dark, but at the exact same time loads of people on the forums were reporting getting white MDMA. You could ask maybe?
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Is his MDMA really as dark as it is in his pictures? Which means he doesn't put it through a chemical bath after the synth? I hate having dark MDMA and so do my customers
if you read through the million pages there are pics from dif batches.... i think the first few where like the pictures, but ive seen various comments about being light tan / semi clear / opaque .... I also seen one really pretty looking charchoal / purplely one... ive only herd stories from old heads about purple shit.... but honestly if you do enough research color supposedly only makes up for 1/2^% of impuritys... from my understanding or something along those lines....
The batch i got from him was dank as fuck.... VERY well washed almost no smell... (smell is a impuirty) some of the rocks where so pretty i didnt even wanna break them up they just looked so awesome! I just placed another small order... ill see how this one looks... if anyone recieves recently please post pics or atleast give us some details.... im assuming these guys move so much that the batches change a lot and theres prolly more then one cook... which means different precursers.... which surrent precursers leave certain colors behind from what ive been read..... horrible spelling now my appoligies .... too many dabs.
Subtickel... havent ordered from him personally... but ive herd that in the past it was some clumpy brown crap so i really dont know.... his pic now looks nice , maybe just play it say and get a small sample.....
DT LOVE ALL DAY!
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I was wondering if anyone knows if I can split a 5g order...I want them sent to different addresses. I messaged DT about it last night asking them. Im sure they get a ton of messages though and most likely wont bother to reply to such a trivial question.
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DutchTrade please message me back!
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Has anyone successfully communicated with these cats in the last 1one or 2two weeks?
@toomanydabs I am also still waiting on a PM I sent 4four days ago. Did you msg or place an order? Also there is no such thing as too many dabs.
I have heard really good things about this vendor from IRL acquaintances really hoping they're not dissappearing.
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yeah I really hope they get back to me..I wouldn't feel comfortable placing my order with them until I hear from them. They seem so great though...the prices and all the great reviews..its gonna put a hitch in my plans if i cant order with them..maybe they have just been busy lately?
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Has anyone successfully communicated with these cats in the last 1one or 2two weeks?
@toomanydabs I am also still waiting on a PM I sent 4four days ago. Did you msg or place an order? Also there is no such thing as too many dabs.
I have heard really good things about this vendor from IRL acquaintances really hoping they're not dissappearing.
I got answered back in 24 hours a day ago.
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Shipment came in just 7 business days to the USA. MBB included. Stealth was hilarious. Thanks again DT. will be ordering real soon
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Shipment came in just 7 business days to the USA. MBB included. Stealth was hilarious. Thanks again DT. will be ordering real soon
How much weight?
What is the MDMA like? color, smell
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Shipment came in just 7 business days to the USA. MBB included. Stealth was hilarious. Thanks again DT. will be ordering real soon
Damn that's fast!
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Can anyone else confirm MBB being used?
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What does MBB mean?
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i asked the same thing like 2 pages ago..mbb means moisture barrier bag.
GRRR i want DT to answer if they will split my 5g mdma order >< if they dont answer by tomorrow il have to order with there more expensive competitors :( sad face. lol. Does anyone know there policy..you think they will do it? lol
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i asked the same thing like 2 pages ago..mbb means moisture barrier bag.
......So iv asked like 4 different vendors if I can buy 5g of mdma and have them split the shipment and send to different addresses. Of course i said i would pay both shipping costs. And nobody is getting back to me. Is this a stupid thing to ask or something? Is it because I havent been encrypting my messages? I figured I only should have to encrypt my address when I send it to them. Iv just been going to the vendor pages and clicking 'Send message'. Can someone help me out here please??
Well it says right on dutchtrades he doesn't do custom listings and your essentially asking for that. I'd assume most bulk vendors wouldn't do that anyways seems like a hassle. I'd suggest trying a vendor that sells individual grams.
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Damn alright..Symbosis actually messaged me back and said he would be able to do it. So I think il try with him. I didnt realize thats what a custom listing meant..sorry still new and learning the lingo lol. Thanks for the reply though :]
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Just put in an order for 5gs of DTs new gear. Took less than a day of processing and was in transit next day. If i recieve in a week or less and product is fire he will be my new guy as am looking for some larger orders in the future.
TK
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still waitng on a reply from DT for 2 good orders had issueds with pgp waiting on replys hope all is well! Fire bomb mdma last time hopefully these 2 go through witghout a issue or will venrting like a mofo on thiS !!!
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Considering The Nederlands ridiculous access to MDP2P I can imagine this individuals product being the fuel of all fuels. Once I get my account up and fully functioning I will certainly be trying this individuals material out.
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Anyone know why dutch pulled all his listings?
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Can anyone else confirm MBB being used?
Unfortunately they still don't have a supplier for MBBs.
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Don't want to stir the shit pot, but it seems dutch put all his listings in stealth, lowered the price, and is posting fake feedback to cover up a 3 of 5
"5 of 5 fuckyeah!! it was my first order, very fast and save to my home... You are amazing!!!! 16 minutes item
5 of 5 very good job men 51 minutes item
Very good job men? Really?
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received my order this week, transaction went as flawless as last time, have absolutely nothing to complain about
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Don't want to stir the shit pot, but it seems dutch put all his listings in stealth, lowered the price, and is posting fake feedback to cover up a 3 of 5
"5 of 5 fuckyeah!! it was my first order, very fast and save to my home... You are amazing!!!! 16 minutes item
5 of 5 very good job men 51 minutes item
Very good job men? Really?
I am also a bit worried.... I think something is going on, on his side.... I placed 2 orders and he couldnt open the pgp... so i switched to the othe gpg or whatever the fuc it is that also does the same thing, resent him all my info and a few messages... and ALL of my messages have been unread
my last order was flawless / amazing / and FIRE PRODUCT..... but these 2 have me worried...... and anyone confirm in transit / tracking numbers within the last few days? my two orders are STILL processing....
Whats the rules on canceling a order? Is it a certain time period before you can clic the cancel button or do they have to cancel it.
Dutch Trade PLEASE comment in here or reply to my messages............
Strange how he pulled all his orders down.... the limit on how many you could buy when you select that part was VERY high.
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Whats the rules on canceling a order? Is it a certain time period before you can clic the cancel button or do they have to cancel it.
The cancel button shows up after four days.
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Whats the rules on canceling a order? Is it a certain time period before you can clic the cancel button or do they have to cancel it.
The cancel button shows up after four days.
Thanks +1 to you!
Strange how he pulled all of his orders down.... i just placed another one last night and there was a good size stock available at the time... and he was last seen online today... but hasnt posted on here yet!
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Also... there is such thing as taking too many dabs, ive had many experiences that have got me so high that ive puked or come close to it or was just extremely too high idk.... but there def is a point... could be shitty oil.
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@Toomanydabs1 Yeah I have an order on the way, the tracking took like a week to update, but it's coming.
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DT just replied to my message
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Awesome, just got a friendly reply from DT..... All worries gone now! Much Love to DutchTradeCrew!
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Don't want to stir the shit pot, but it seems dutch put all his listings in stealth, lowered the price, and is posting fake feedback to cover up a 3 of 5
"5 of 5 fuckyeah!! it was my first order, very fast and save to my home... You are amazing!!!! 16 minutes item
5 of 5 very good job men 51 minutes item
Very good job men? Really?
I have a confirmed in transit. Tracking now works today.
I am also a bit worried.... I think something is going on, on his side.... I placed 2 orders and he couldnt open the pgp... so i switched to the othe gpg or whatever the fuc it is that also does the same thing, resent him all my info and a few messages... and ALL of my messages have been unread
my last order was flawless / amazing / and FIRE PRODUCT..... but these 2 have me worried...... and anyone confirm in transit / tracking numbers within the last few days? my two orders are STILL processing....
Whats the rules on canceling a order? Is it a certain time period before you can clic the cancel button or do they have to cancel it.
Dutch Trade PLEASE comment in here or reply to my messages............
Strange how he pulled all his orders down.... the limit on how many you could buy when you select that part was VERY high.
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Lame, I get all my bit coins today to make an order....and he pulls his listings LE SIGH.....Ill just have to play the waiting game.
Dutch you know when you might have em back up?
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Don't want to stir the shit pot, but it seems dutch put all his listings in stealth, lowered the price, and is posting fake feedback to cover up a 3 of 5
"5 of 5 fuckyeah!! it was my first order, very fast and save to my home... You are amazing!!!! 16 minutes item
5 of 5 very good job men 51 minutes item
Very good job men? Really?
I have a confirmed in transit. Tracking now works today.
I am also a bit worried.... I think something is going on, on his side.... I placed 2 orders and he couldnt open the pgp... so i switched to the othe gpg or whatever the fuc it is that also does the same thing, resent him all my info and a few messages... and ALL of my messages have been unread
my last order was flawless / amazing / and FIRE PRODUCT..... but these 2 have me worried...... and anyone confirm in transit / tracking numbers within the last few days? my two orders are STILL processing....
Whats the rules on canceling a order? Is it a certain time period before you can clic the cancel button or do they have to cancel it.
Dutch Trade PLEASE comment in here or reply to my messages............
Strange how he pulled all his orders down.... the limit on how many you could buy when you select that part was VERY high.
many vendors put something like 999 to the "available listings" tab
1. Many people who order more than one listing at a time leave identical feedback. Or very similar. - No fucking vendor would be stupid enough to try to fake his feedback score by leaving 10x the same feedback with 5/5 rating.
2. If you'd wanna buy shit from yourself, why'd you really need to lower the price? - The SR fee isn't that high.
3. The listings aren't in stealth - They are completely unlisted at the moment
4. GPG4USB works just fine with his public key :)
5. Don't spam the review thread for unread messages
6. Stay calm - Vendors don't have infinite product 24/7/365
7. I just got an answer from DT concerning a few things - Told him to check out PlutoPete for MBBs
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Lame, I get all my bit coins today to make an order....and he pulls his listings LE SIGH.....Ill just have to play the waiting game.
Dutch you know when you might have em back up?
If you bought your coins at the current rate at around 107 USD per coin, just hold them with confidence. I can smell the price bouncing back to around 115 USD/BTC in a short while.
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If I were to cancel my order for 10gr of MDMA (@2.00 BTC), would I lose my BTC? Only because DT does not order to AUS or NZ anymore...
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If I were to cancel my order for 10gr of MDMA (@2.00 BTC), would I lose my BTC? Only because DT does not order to AUS or NZ anymore...
When you put an item in your cart you can see if it is hedged or unhedged. If it is hedged then there's a 4% fee so even if the order is cancelled you'll get the original $ value of your order back minus 4%. Unhedged you get the same BTC back, which has dropped more than 10% recently so you might be better off if it was hedged with the 4% fee. I can't remember if DT hedges or not.
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Word, tracking has started to update in the US, it'll be here shortly. :)
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Alright, check it out my fellow worry warts. I placed a 10 gram order from DT about a week ago. The order stayed in "processing" for about three days. I messaged DT about it, they messaged back a day later telling me that it would be sent out that night. The next day, I checked, and my 10 gram order was indeed marked "In Transit". I quickly went ahead to place another order, but this time for 50 grams. This was two days ago on the 6th, ( today is June 08). My 50 gram pack is still processing, and DT has taken down his listings. I don't blame anyone for worrying about this. However, with my experience with DT, and silkroad I am guessing that DT took his listings down because they are getting flooded with orders. I guess that because it's taking them three or four days to process these orders which probably means that they're backed up. I am confident that my 50 gram order will be marked "In Transit" within the next two days. I am also confident that DT will have their listings back up soon enough. Once they catch up. That's just my thoughts on the situation. :)
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Shipment came in just 7 business days to the USA. MBB included. Stealth was hilarious. Thanks again DT. will be ordering real soon
How much weight?
What is the MDMA like? color, smell
11.1 grams.
Don't really know the smell. If it's the same as the last batch it should be good. My friends loved it. Color is mostly white I suppose. As par MBB, i'm not too sure if it was used after finding out MBB really looks like (im a noob) But the stealth was better that last batch. It was packaged real tight i think doubled vacced? The bag was see through so I assume no MBB.
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DT's last stuff was insanely good! Waiting for him to put up the listings. I'm getting 50g this time.
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When it arrives to US and it's held up in customs, what is the status look like?
Is it the usual "Processed through USPS Sort Facility"
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great question
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anybody know when dutchtrade i9s putting his listings back up? sorry if its already posted here but im on vacatiom now and the lady is yelling at me to get off the computer to go to the pool so im kinda pressed for time to read previous posts. godamnit shes leaving and yeling. gotta run check back later
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anybody know when dutchtrade i9s putting his listings back up? sorry if its already posted here but im on vacatiom now and the lady is yelling at me to get off the computer to go to the pool so im kinda pressed for time to read previous posts. godamnit shes leaving and yeling. gotta run check back later
loool this post. i love these forums i swear
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When it arrives to US and it's held up in customs, what is the status look like?
Is it the usual "Processed through USPS Sort Facility"
That means it is past customs although full disclosure even in case of a controlled delivery they'll do scans past customs. Unlikely to be a controlled delivery but want you to have all the information.
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Update on my order, should have it in a few days. its mainland (:
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hi Guys,
Just an update from our side:
Business is going very well. We are happy to have welcomed many new customers the past few weeks, which also means that messages and orders kept coming in like crazy. This is also the reason why it took us a little longer to confirm some orders and unfortunately had to cancel a few too. Sorry about this. Also because of the many orders, the post offices in our area ran out of tracking codes.
We are currently offline and plan to be back online after next weekend.
We see some of you posting questions about having enough in stock on our vendor page but still taking down our listings.
We have a bulk in stock, unfortunately we can't split it in "amount available per listing" on our page, because if we do split it, SR staff can automatically take down a listings once it seems out of stock and we want to be able to control this ourselves. Therefore it might happen that we take down our listings even though it seems a certain listings still has enough in stock.
we would like to reply to some of you guys posting on our forum topic:
- As most of you know: we're a professional, legit and honest vendor on the road so just to reply to "Mindblower" post: There's no reason for us to lower prices and add fake feedback! We would never do such thing. Feedback, customer rating and success rates are given by our customers, there's no way for us to control this or we would have to become a customer and buy from ourselves.
- Toomanydabs: As we told you in the messages: It is stated on our Vendor Page that messages will be answered within 48 hours. So if you send us like 7-8 messages in one day, (sending multiple messages is one of the reason it took us such a long time to answer/confirm last week), you can't expect us to reply in a few minutes/hours after you sent a messages.
Besides that; Please consider the 6-7 hours time difference!
- MrMdma: Many thanks for your advice in mbb suppliers and also for your reply on the forum, it's good to see that some of our customers understand certain things/delays.
Hope this reply answers your questions and we are happy to receive your orders again after next weekend!
-DTC
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unfortunately my 10g MDMA order was canceled, but it is ok. this feedback from DT show us that this guys are really professional vendors.
can't wait to do business with DT.
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hi Guys,
Just an update from our side:
Business is going very well. We are happy to have welcomed many new customers the past few weeks, which also means that messages and orders kept coming in like crazy. This is also the reason why it took us a little longer to confirm some orders and unfortunately had to cancel a few too. Sorry about this. Also because of the many orders, the post offices in our area ran out of tracking codes.
We are currently offline and plan to be back online after next weekend.
We see some of you posting questions about having enough in stock on our vendor page but still taking down our listings.
We have a bulk in stock, unfortunately we can't split it in "amount available per listing" on our page, because if we do split it, SR staff can automatically take down a listings once it seems out of stock and we want to be able to control this ourselves. Therefore it might happen that we take down our listings even though it seems a certain listings still has enough in stock.
we would like to reply to some of you guys posting on our forum topic:
- As most of you know: we're a professional, legit and honest vendor on the road so just to reply to "Mindblower" post: There's no reason for us to lower prices and add fake feedback! We would never do such thing. Feedback, customer rating and success rates are given by our customers, there's no way for us to control this or we would have to become a customer and buy from ourselves.
- Toomanydabs: As we told you in the messages: It is stated on our Vendor Page that messages will be answered within 48 hours. So if you send us like 7-8 messages in one day, (sending multiple messages is one of the reason it took us such a long time to answer/confirm last week), you can't expect us to reply in a few minutes/hours after you sent a messages.
Besides that; Please consider the 6-7 hours time difference!
- MrMdma: Many thanks for your advice in mbb suppliers and also for your reply on the forum, it's good to see that some of our customers understand certain things/delays.
Hope this reply answers your questions and we are happy to receive your orders again after next weekend!
-DTC
No worries here! Thanks for the update, my apologies for the multiple messages was just concerned with the pgp.... Regardless super excited for this batch! :) Much Love Dutch Trade Crew!
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guess ill be waiting until the 16th to get my coins. if listings are coming back after NEXT weekend.
either way im gonna be eying his profile daily.
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+1 DT
Why havent the rest of you fuckers not plus one him? lol I know alot of you received with enough posts to do so... hook the homie up!
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Here's my quick review on a 10g order. :D
Word, first transaction with DutchTrade and everything turned out as expected.
Fair shipping speed. I ordered tracking so I didn't mind the wait at all. Didn't get stuck when it got to the US, kept on moving.
Smells, feels, and looks FIREEEE. He hooked it up to, about 1.2g overweight. Pretty big rocks too, biggest being 1g. Couldn't be happier.
Will edit once I try it.
The 1.2 overweight made my day... and also made my headstash. ;D
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completed another great transaction with Dutchtrade for 50g.
Shipping 5/5 took 11 days, and tracking worked well. knew the day before it was delivered that it was going to be delivered
Stealth 4/5 Tripple vac, but no mbb so i deduct 1 point.
Value 10/5 Have not weighed out yet, but looks fat. will update
Communication 5/5 He answered every message punctually.
Product ?/5. Carmel color with a slight odor of acetone. Although ? the product looks amazing. i dont want to say a value until tested
Overall 5/5.
Will update on product quality once tested.
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this new batch sounds tasty I'm hoping I get mine by Friday as well will update on quality later.
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this new batch sounds tasty I'm hoping I get mine by Friday as well will update on quality later.
Mine should be here this week cant wait!!
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20 grams
Shipping: 5/5 This order came in 7 business days instead of the usual 11 days.
Stealth: 5/5 I was hoping to see a MBB but I didn't. It was double vacuumed though.
Product: I can't say since I haven't tried it yet. It has a chemical smell to it also. I did a marquis test on it and it shows that it is indeed MDMA (Instant Black result).
As long as it's just as fire as his previous batches I'll be satisfied.
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Excited for the new batch! Will post pics and wash results...
Funny how above I simply mentioned why dont most of you that receive packs from DT hook him up with +1 Karma? I mean isnt that what its sorta for? Then i get several negative karmas for just making that statement lmao.... people these days.
Glad to hear you guys are receiving packs! Super excited for mine! Any pics would be super awesome... there always fun to drool over, and batches seem to very from person to person some time it seemed... atleast in a few pics. Just curious what everyones looks like.
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I crushed up all the bigger rocks.
Enjoy!
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1o-.jpg
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I crushed up all the bigger rocks.
Enjoy!
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1o-.jpg
Thanks for the pic looks pretty! +1 to you homie!
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I crushed up all the bigger rocks.
Enjoy!
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1o-.jpg
Hmm, that looks like it has been washed at least once. Looks yummy. Still waiting on my first 5G test shipment. Dunno if I might try a recrystallization with such a small amount, but will see.
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DutchTrade: do a search for Dri-Shield 2000 and Dri-Shield 2700 if you're searching for a supplier of MBBs.
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I crushed up all the bigger rocks.
Enjoy!
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1o-.jpg
Wow thanks for the pic! Looks AMAZING!
I crushed up all the bigger rocks.
Enjoy!
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1o-.jpg
Hmm, that looks like it has been washed at least once. Looks yummy. Still waiting on my first 5G test shipment. Dunno if I might try a recrystallization with such a small amount, but will see.
Tell us how it goes if you finally do it! I've read about how to do recrystallization but never saw pictures. Ill appreciate very much! :)
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Best Vendor with MDMA :)
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I wonder how hard it would be to convert the freebase to crystal.... from my understanding pure mdma is in freebase form and is oil... wouldnt be smart to just ship a bunch of wine bottles full of it to someone that could turn it from freebase to hcl? Im sure its been done before but that would be super stealth! IMO..... Think about it customs gets a case of wine or even a gift basket with random items and a bottle of wine... i highly doubt they would open the wine.
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I wonder how hard it would be to convert the freebase to crystal.... from my understanding pure mdma is in freebase form and is oil... wouldnt be smart to just ship a bunch of wine bottles full of it to someone that could turn it from freebase to hcl? Im sure its been done before but that would be super stealth! IMO..... Think about it customs gets a case of wine or even a gift basket with random items and a bottle of wine... i highly doubt they would open the wine.
Unfortunately USPS doesn't allow alcoholic beverages:
https://www.usps.com/ship/can-you-ship-it-internationally.htm
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I have 2 days left till Auto-finalize :-\ Seems to take forever to get here. If it doesn't come tomorrow I guess i'll FE with one day left and hope it comes :-[
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I have 2 days left till Auto-finalize :-\ Seems to take forever to get here. If it doesn't come tomorrow I guess i'll FE with one day left and hope it comes :-[
Why would you FE? Just click resolve and submit an extension request.
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I have 2 days left till Auto-finalize :-\ Seems to take forever to get here. If it doesn't come tomorrow I guess i'll FE with one day left and hope it comes :-[
There is no penalty for hitting the "resolve" button. Do as the above poster mentioned and go ahead and hit it and put in for an extension of time.
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Excited for the new batch! Will post pics and wash results...
Funny how above I simply mentioned why dont most of you that receive packs from DT hook him up with +1 Karma? I mean isnt that what its sorta for? Then i get several negative karmas for just making that statement lmao.... people these days.
Glad to hear you guys are receiving packs! Super excited for mine! Any pics would be super awesome... there always fun to drool over, and batches seem to very from person to person some time it seemed... atleast in a few pics. Just curious what everyones looks like.
negative karma comes from sucking the vendors balls. get off his nuts. everybody knows dutchtrade is the shit but you look stupid yelling at everybody to give karma to him as if hes your BFF.
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all ive ordered from dutch in the past was a 10g pack. gona order 20 on my next go around. does anybody know if its all sent out together or is it sent in 10g incriments? from the sound of everybodys posts it sounds like its all shipped together but just want to be positive. and if it is shipped all together has anybody ordered more than 1 10g pack and recieved less like a for example order 30g but only recieve 10? maybe stupid questions but ill admit im not the brightest crayon in the box :/
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all ive ordered from dutch in the past was a 10g pack. gona order 20 on my next go around. does anybody know if its all sent out together or is it sent in 10g incriments? from the sound of everybodys posts it sounds like its all shipped together but just want to be positive. and if it is shipped all together has anybody ordered more than 1 10g pack and recieved less like a for example order 30g but only recieve 10? maybe stupid questions but ill admit im not the brightest crayon in the box :/
I haven't ordered from DutchTrade but I'm sure that 20g comes as 20g.
As for ordering more than qty 1, it is easy for SR vendors to miss that and only ship qty 1 so I recommend you put "this is for qty 3 = 30g" or whatever in the address box.
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all ive ordered from dutch in the past was a 10g pack. gona order 20 on my next go around. does anybody know if its all sent out together or is it sent in 10g incriments? from the sound of everybodys posts it sounds like its all shipped together but just want to be positive. and if it is shipped all together has anybody ordered more than 1 10g pack and recieved less like a for example order 30g but only recieve 10? maybe stupid questions but ill admit im not the brightest crayon in the box :/
It will be in one pack. His 100g come in one pack.
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I have 2 days left till Auto-finalize :-\ Seems to take forever to get here. If it doesn't come tomorrow I guess i'll FE with one day left and hope it comes :-[
There is no penalty for hitting the "resolve" button. Do as the above poster mentioned and go ahead and hit it and put in for an extension of time.
Thanks for clearing that up for me slirp. As it turns out it showed up today. The package had been opened but the stealth held true and is safe and sound now 8)
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all ive ordered from dutch in the past was a 10g pack. gona order 20 on my next go around. does anybody know if its all sent out together or is it sent in 10g incriments? from the sound of everybodys posts it sounds like its all shipped together but just want to be positive. and if it is shipped all together has anybody ordered more than 1 10g pack and recieved less like a for example order 30g but only recieve 10? maybe stupid questions but ill admit im not the brightest crayon in the box :/
I ordered 10g x3 and only received 10g and when I talked to him about it he sent the other 20g but that got lost in the mail unfortunately. I ordered again since then and got 10g x2 and I sent him a message reminding him that I ordered 2 of them so the mistake wouldnt happen again and it didn't.
And I gotta say, the quality is fucking fire.
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all ive ordered from dutch in the past was a 10g pack. gona order 20 on my next go around. does anybody know if its all sent out together or is it sent in 10g incriments? from the sound of everybodys posts it sounds like its all shipped together but just want to be positive. and if it is shipped all together has anybody ordered more than 1 10g pack and recieved less like a for example order 30g but only recieve 10? maybe stupid questions but ill admit im not the brightest crayon in the box :/
I ordered 10g x3 and only received 10g and when I talked to him about it he sent the other 20g but that got lost in the mail unfortunately. I ordered again since then and got 10g x2 and I sent him a message reminding him that I ordered 2 of them so the mistake wouldnt happen again and it didn't.
And I gotta say, the quality is fucking fire.
To DutchTradeCrew's credit this may not actually be their fault. There was a bug with SR that didn't display the quantity for vendors when they checked the orders. There were a few posts about it on the forum. This might be why you were shorted...
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Received from dutchtrade in less than two weeks. 10%+ over, and everything looks and smells right.
Couldn't be happier.
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all ive ordered from dutch in the past was a 10g pack. gona order 20 on my next go around. does anybody know if its all sent out together or is it sent in 10g incriments? from the sound of everybodys posts it sounds like its all shipped together but just want to be positive. and if it is shipped all together has anybody ordered more than 1 10g pack and recieved less like a for example order 30g but only recieve 10? maybe stupid questions but ill admit im not the brightest crayon in the box :/
I ordered 10g x3 and only received 10g and when I talked to him about it he sent the other 20g but that got lost in the mail unfortunately. I ordered again since then and got 10g x2 and I sent him a message reminding him that I ordered 2 of them so the mistake wouldnt happen again and it didn't.
And I gotta say, the quality is fucking fire.
To DutchTradeCrew's credit this may not actually be their fault. There was a bug with SR that didn't display the quantity for vendors when they checked the orders. There were a few posts about it on the forum. This might be why you were shorted...
Ah, well if I gave 5/5 regardless because the reason it couldn't be delivered is because my name is no longer on the mailbox, I'm just upset because if he had sent the 30g in the first shipment (which took an incredible 6 days in transit to US) I would've still been able to get it. I don't really blame DT since he quickly took care of the shipping issue but I do hope he hooks it up when I make my next purchase as soon as his listings go back up :)
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I hate this German "Post-O-Roulette". My order was marked in transit last Thursday and I ordered some psychedelics from another German vendor the day after which were marked in transit Friday. Well the psychedelics arrived fine last Wednesday but I'm still waiting for the MDMA to come in. I usually receive Eu to EU orders in 5 days or less.
Anyone else from EU waiting on a order ordered in the same time frame? I'm not worrying a single bit yet, but just curious.
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eagerly waiting !!!
A little strange though, I ordered two item separately a day or two apart... and only got a tracking number on one... anyone else have similar experiences? I have full faith in DTC to come through... but curious...
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looking for a reliable solid vender for mdma at good prices and ive been seeing alot of dt around can i get some feedback on his stealth with large orders whoever has gotten them around 50 to 100+g's? much appreciated.
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Is anybody else experiencing some issues with his domestic delivery? I ordered 9 days ago and it was marked in transit 6 days ago but still hasn't showed up. I ordered from DutchTrade before and had it in the mail 2 days after the order. DutchTrade also doesn't reply to my message I sent a week ago. I know DT has probably a lot of work to do, but I'm getting a little bit worried right now. I will be patient as possible. If someone could answer me that would be great.
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Is anybody else experiencing some issues with his domestic delivery? I ordered 9 days ago and it was marked in transit 6 days ago but still hasn't showed up. I ordered from DutchTrade before and had it in the mail 2 days after the order. DutchTrade also doesn't reply to my message I sent a week ago. I know DT has probably a lot of work to do, but I'm getting a little bit worried right now. I will be patient as possible. If someone could answer me that would be great.
German post is partly paralyzed for some reason at the moment. I was looking at Pfandleiher's page and people were commenting that domestic deliveries were taking hilariously long, but in the end arrived after the wait.
Edit: I ordered last Thursday too and I'm waiting for arrival. :) Let's hope it's just the German post doing it's thingy.
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same here . i ordered a small amount domestic 9 days ago and it was marked in transit 6 days ago
i just ordered 1 time before but that time it was freaking fast. 1 day from in transit to my mailbox.
i think i shit my pants :O
edit: but if the above said is true then im looking forward to a great product. thanks for taking some worries.
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same here . i ordered a small amount domestic 9 days ago and it was marked in transit 6 days ago
i just ordered 1 time before but that time it was freaking fast. 1 day from in transit to my mailbox.
i think i shit my pants :O
edit: but if the above said is true then im looking forward to a great product. thanks for taking some worries.
It's comforting to hear that it seems like there are some orders that are taking a little longer at the moment :) I think we better just chill. Let's keep each other posted though, post back here when you receive.
German post is low at the moment!
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Is this talk about the German Post being shitty why DutchTrade took his listings down for the moment? Hope they go up soon I need to place another order!
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Status update:
Dutch's new batch is soooooo fucking fireeeeeeee. I'm on it right now. .25grams over 6 hours so far. Its definitely the shit.
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what i think is happening is when his listings are down him or his team probably package up 100s of packs so when they put there listings up all they have to do is slap a address label on it and drop in the box. as they run out of premade packs it takes longer to package em up and stay ahead of the 35-40 orders they are getting per day so as time goes on theyre shipping times get longer and longer until they pull there listings again and get caught up. hes had his listings down for over a week and at least 20 people are still finalizing there orders per day which just goes to show the insane volume hes going thru which also makes me a lil jealous that they are probably becoming so filthy rich in such a short amount of time. anyways thats my theory on shipping times and why the orders at the end of this last run are taking so long.
now i have one question hopefully someone can answer. now say i order 30 grams i already know it will come in one delivery but will it come in 3 10g packs or 1 30g pack? just trying to figure out if i will need to break it down once i get it into smaller increments of 10 or will it already be done. thanks
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what i think is happening is when his listings are down him or his team probably package up 100s of packs so when they put there listings up all they have to do is slap a address label on it and drop in the box. as they run out of premade packs it takes longer to package em up and stay ahead of the 35-40 orders they are getting per day so as time goes on theyre shipping times get longer and longer until they pull there listings again and get caught up. hes had his listings down for over a week and at least 20 people are still finalizing there orders per day which just goes to show the insane volume hes going thru which also makes me a lil jealous that they are probably becoming so filthy rich in such a short amount of time. anyways thats my theory on shipping times and why the orders at the end of this last run are taking so long.
now i have one question hopefully someone can answer. now say i order 30 grams i already know it will come in one delivery but will it come in 3 10g packs or 1 30g pack? just trying to figure out if i will need to break it down once i get it into smaller increments of 10 or will it already be done. thanks
It'll come in one 30g pack in my experience
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what i think is happening is when his listings are down him or his team probably package up 100s of packs so when they put there listings up all they have to do is slap a address label on it and drop in the box. as they run out of premade packs it takes longer to package em up and stay ahead of the 35-40 orders they are getting per day so as time goes on theyre shipping times get longer and longer until they pull there listings again and get caught up. hes had his listings down for over a week and at least 20 people are still finalizing there orders per day which just goes to show the insane volume hes going thru which also makes me a lil jealous that they are probably becoming so filthy rich in such a short amount of time. anyways thats my theory on shipping times and why the orders at the end of this last run are taking so long.
now i have one question hopefully someone can answer. now say i order 30 grams i already know it will come in one delivery but will it come in 3 10g packs or 1 30g pack? just trying to figure out if i will need to break it down once i get it into smaller increments of 10 or will it already be done. thanks
It'll come in one 30g pack in my experience
should come as 33 :)
i love the extra 10%...
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I live in Europe, even close to Germany and still waiting for my order to arrive. It has been like a week and a half. Is it even normal? I highly doubt that it was caught, because my country doesn't have strict customs or anything. All the other orders from different vendor from EU to EU arrived in 3-5 days. I mean, why is the shipping taking so slow? How is that even possible?
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June 17th update: More than likely our listings will be back up next week, we are looking forward to do business with you all again then!
ughhhhhhhhhhhh. crap.
another week. doesnt give a specific date. maybe in the middle of the week.
hmmm
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DT gave me a tracking number for my order. However, when i try to track it, it tells me that "no information could be found." Does anyone know why this is? This is the first time that I have selected Tracking option, and it's taking a lot longer to arrive than usual. Three of my previous orders were delivered to me within 10 days. Now that i risked all of my money, and ordered a 50 gram package, its taking forever. I hate worrying! :(
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I live in Europe, even close to Germany and still waiting for my order to arrive. It has been like a week and a half. Is it even normal? I highly doubt that it was caught, because my country doesn't have strict customs or anything. All the other orders from different vendor from EU to EU arrived in 3-5 days. I mean, why is the shipping taking so slow? How is that even possible?
Dude chill, hold hands with me (no homo) :) I'm in the same boat with you. My order was shipped the 5th of this month also. I received another order placed in the same time frame in 3 days EU to EU (also from Germany). I think the area where DT is sending the shipments from, has some delays with the postal service at the moment.
If you don't receive it the latest on Friday, send a message to DT. Post back here when you receive it!
EDIT: I had the dates wrong.
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DT gave me a tracking number for my order. However, when i try to track it, it tells me that "no information could be found." Does anyone know why this is? This is the first time that I have selected Tracking option, and it's taking a lot longer to arrive than usual. Three of my previous orders were delivered to me within 10 days. Now that i risked all of my money, and ordered a 50 gram package, its taking forever. I hate worrying! :(
You didn't mention what country you're in but it isn't uncommon for tracking to take a while to show up, especially if you're tracking through USPS. The benefit to tracking is that if the package doesn't show then you have evidence it didn't show with the tracking number. There is always risk of loss of funds in these matters unfortunately though.
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DT gave me a tracking number for my order. However, when i try to track it, it tells me that "no information could be found." Does anyone know why this is? This is the first time that I have selected Tracking option, and it's taking a lot longer to arrive than usual. Three of my previous orders were delivered to me within 10 days. Now that i risked all of my money, and ordered a 50 gram package, its taking forever. I hate worrying! :(
Im on day whatever .... 9 days till auto-finalize so thats ? curious...
DTC is in communication with me.... ordered 2 different packs 2 different places, only got 1 tracking number and that one doesnt work.... but I have faith... just getting a little nervous......
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I just wanted to let you know you guys were right. I got my domestic delivery today, 12 days after ordering, it has been 9 days since marked in transit. So Deutsche Post really seems to be slow at the moment but nothing to worry about.
Very stealthy package and excellent weight
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DT gave me a tracking number for my order. However, when i try to track it, it tells me that "no information could be found." Does anyone know why this is? This is the first time that I have selected Tracking option, and it's taking a lot longer to arrive than usual. Three of my previous orders were delivered to me within 10 days. Now that i risked all of my money, and ordered a 50 gram package, its taking forever. I hate worrying! :(
You didn't mention what country you're in but it isn't uncommon for tracking to take a while to show up, especially if you're tracking through USPS. The benefit to tracking is that if the package doesn't show then you have evidence it didn't show with the tracking number. There is always risk of loss of funds in these matters unfortunately though.
Well stated.... +1
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+1 to DT for being outstanding! Well respected imo!
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I just wanted to let you know you guys were right. I got my domestic delivery today, 12 days after ordering, it has been 9 days since marked in transit. So Deutsche Post really seems to be slow at the moment but nothing to worry about.
Very stealthy package and excellent weight
Great to hear you got your package :)!
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I just wanted to let you know you guys were right. I got my domestic delivery today, 12 days after ordering, it has been 9 days since marked in transit. So Deutsche Post really seems to be slow at the moment but nothing to worry about.
Very stealthy package and excellent weight
I also got my domestic delivery today, everything´s fine as usual. Don´t worry guys!
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Got mine and if product is stellar I will be purchasing a larger amount in the near future. Not sure if i got an old batch but its whitish and crystals are beautiful. 12 days transit midwest .
TK
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oh hai. DUTCHTRADE RULES!!! WOOHOO cant wait till you're back man!
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Has anyone received anything from DT to midwest USA? :-*
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Has anyone received anything from DT to midwest USA? :-*
All of USA has nothing to worry about! Trust me on this one!
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It's been about 2 weeks now. Do I really have to wait 2 weeks and more for my order to arrive from Europe to Eu? This is ridiculous.
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18 days to the midwest us, everything was as advertised. dt is a solid vendor, would not hesitate to pull the trigger.
to those waiting and fidgeting... patience... patience.
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It's been about 2 weeks now. Do I really have to wait 2 weeks and more for my order to arrive from Europe to Eu? This is ridiculous.
Hello jhj,
I ordered 5G 2 weeks ago on Wednesday. Still waiting :) I am located in EU. Post back here when you receive ok?
I have sent DT a short message and asked if there are many people who are waiting for their orders still to arrive within the EU, shipped at the same time (around 2 weeks ago).
I hope the shipments haven't been caught in Germany or anything like that.
-MrMDMA, Northern EU.
PS. I am ready to give it one more full week to arrive and then I shall start to worry if it's not here.
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very nice man. good things are coming. Just be patient.
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It's been about 2 weeks now. Do I really have to wait 2 weeks and more for my order to arrive from Europe to Eu? This is ridiculous.
Hello jhj,
I ordered 5G 2 weeks ago on Wednesday. Still waiting :) I am located in EU. Post back here when you receive ok?
I have sent DT a short message and asked if there are many people who are waiting for their orders still to arrive within the EU, shipped at the same time (around 2 weeks ago).
I hope the shipments haven't been caught in Germany or anything like that.
-MrMDMA, Northern EU.
PS. I am ready to give it one more full week to arrive and then I shall start to worry if it's not here.
Hey, yeah, my order was shipped on June 6th, ordered 5g and live in Northern EU also, haha. I hope for the best, but it's irritating to wait so long.
I will sure post here, when (if) receive. What I don't understand is that all the orders to USA has successfully arrived but ones to Europe not?
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CHEMICAL BROTHERS VENDOR IS STUPID IDIOT!!!
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@ CORSAIR: Please take your scam and complaints elsewhere. Thank you
Sorry guys, we've heard that delivery time takes longer than usual from more customers.
we're guessing the German Post has been a bit slow the past 2 weeks, this could be due to the flooding in central Europe which "hit" Germany in the same week that the (now delayed) shipment was sent out. Please be a bit more patient, we're confident your packages will arrive in a timely manner from now.
-DTC
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Hey Dutch!
Any idea when listings will go back up?
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Why does it say you send from Germany when you actually sending for Netherlands ?But Good Quality Taned mdma
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Hey dutch
how far back do you think the flood affects orders, and did it affect international? im on 17buisness days now and still nothing. I know That isnt that long of a wait, but people in my regions packages arrived around 6-10 buisness days. I have a festival coming up that i need the gear for and was just wondering if you could shed some light. thanx
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Im very sorry, i remember it said deutschland. ask my friend and he said that deutschland is netherlands. check t it up now and it obviously German. don't know how i got it so confused. its being sent from Germany.
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You will never be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life.
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Hopefully DT's listings go back up tomorrow, don't wanna go to anyone else for my mdma!
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You will never be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life.
Deep Words. true tho.
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well the due date has now passed and also some of you guys are having no luck, should i stay optimistic? DT even lost my first privnote containing delivery location (and didn't even inform me about this) so i'm not sure how long am i supposed to wait patiently.
then again, it is absolutely possible that the post office over there is experiencing delays - would love a second opinion on this from someone who lives in germany.
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yeah well im waiting on coins to come through but either way hopefully he returns soon.
so he can clear up whatever he needs to do and sell me some mo candy :D
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well the due date has now passed and also some of you guys are having no luck, should i stay optimistic? DT even lost my first privnote containing delivery location (and didn't even inform me about this) so i'm not sure how long am i supposed to wait patiently.
then again, it is absolutely possible that the post office over there is experiencing delays - would love a second opinion on this from someone who lives in germany.
The mail is unpredictable, I've had it take 6 days to US, or 18. Also, don't use privnote. You might as well use nothing.
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well the due date has now passed and also some of you guys are having no luck, should i stay optimistic? DT even lost my first privnote containing delivery location (and didn't even inform me about this) so i'm not sure how long am i supposed to wait patiently.
then again, it is absolutely possible that the post office over there is experiencing delays - would love a second opinion on this from someone who lives in germany.
The mail is unpredictable, I've had it take 6 days to US, or 18. Also, don't use privnote. You might as well use nothing.
Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since my order was shipped. I'm located within the EU. Yet to receive anything. Other order from Germany placed the 7th arrived in 3 working days :(.
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Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since my order was shipped. I'm located within the EU. Yet to receive anything. Other order from Germany placed the 7th arrived in 3 working days :(.
pretty much same here, i guess you ordered 1 day before me. please let me know if you DO receive something
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Looks good!
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I just wanted to let you know you guys were right. I got my domestic delivery today, 12 days after ordering, it has been 9 days since marked in transit. So Deutsche Post really seems to be slow at the moment but nothing to worry about.
Very stealthy package and excellent weight
same here, sorry for the late feedback. it arrived some time last week which means around 2 weeks after ordering.
i am very happy that the package arrived in the end and i am very satisfied with dt´s service
he/she answered very fast and friendly to all my messages,
the product itself is awesome in any way: alot of +1g rocks and no powder at all! - fair price -
awesome stealth - overweight (even more then 10%) - very potent.
pure love
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Hi, my package arrived as an "Einschreiben". I.e. I have to go to the post office with the ID of the receiver and sign for it. I didn't expect that. But it was my fault I used track & trace. What would be the best way to receive that letter. The problem: The receiver is fictional. I have three options:
1. Go with a fake warrant and my personal ID. If they ask for the receivers ID I tell them some story about he's in holiday.
2. Go with a fake warrant, my ID, and a photoshoped copy ID of this fictional person (I'm aware of ID number validation).
3. Go with my ID and tell them I married last week and still have only that ID with my old name. I'm male.
In all cases I would carry my 3 month old daughter on my arm. This might make the post officer more understandable.
Has anybody suggestions or experiences with that case?
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Hopefully DT's listings go back up tomorrow, don't wanna go to anyone else for my mdma!
I feel the same way...my first order went pretty smooth...minus slow shipping the products quality and weight are right on!!
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Hi, my package arrived as an "Einschreiben". I.e. I have to go to the post office with the ID of the receiver and sign for it. I didn't expect that. But it was my fault I used track & trace. What would be the best way to receive that letter. The problem: The receiver is fictional. I have three options:
1. Go with a fake warrant and my personal ID. If they ask for the receivers ID I tell them some story about he's in holiday.
2. Go with a fake warrant, my ID, and a photoshoped copy ID of this fictional person (I'm aware of ID number validation).
3. Go with my ID and tell them I married last week and still have only that ID with my old name. I'm male.
In all cases I would carry my 3 month old daughter on my arm. This might make the post officer more understandable.
Has anybody suggestions or experiences with that case?
I don't know what you mean by "fake warrant" but I'd say you should make up a fake ID of some sort (work badge, official looking nametag, whatever) and maybe even wear the fake ID if it makes sense. That would generally work in the US. Not sure about your country.
If the address on your ID matches the delivery address then maybe that'll work.
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Hi, my package arrived as an "Einschreiben". I.e. I have to go to the post office with the ID of the receiver and sign for it. I didn't expect that. But it was my fault I used track & trace. What would be the best way to receive that letter. The problem: The receiver is fictional. I have three options:
1. Go with a fake warrant and my personal ID. If they ask for the receivers ID I tell them some story about he's in holiday.
2. Go with a fake warrant, my ID, and a photoshoped copy ID of this fictional person (I'm aware of ID number validation).
3. Go with my ID and tell them I married last week and still have only that ID with my old name. I'm male.
In all cases I would carry my 3 month old daughter on my arm. This might make the post officer more understandable.
Has anybody suggestions or experiences with that case?
You write an "warrant letter" and sign it with an random signature. Include a trusted friends phone number for more credibility. If they decide to call him, have that friend ready on phone and ask him to tell that fake name when answering.
Usually the postal workers don't go that deep checking the backgrounds. They only need the letter as proof if someone's post get's stolen etc.
Your number 1. option will work just fine. If you can, write the warrant letter with a computer and print it, then sign it and then photocopy it again so it looks like your "friend" has sent it to you from overseas. Make it as official as possible. "I here by give permission to blahblah blah person to pick up my blah blah MDMA"...
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It took almost a month since I ordered but it arrived today!! :D Thanks DT, you the man, it must be hard dealing with everyone messaging you about late orders (including me).
Yet to test the stuff, I'll probably do it next week but I'll also probably update here.
To everyone still waiting, don't worry too much I'm fairly positive everyone is going to get what they ordered!
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Hi Guys,
Good to hear most of you have received their packages! Must be some delay at the post office or something!
Thanks for keeping us updated about this!
We hope the other ones will reach their destination soon!
We are pleased to let you know that our listings will be online this Monday!
Looking forward to do business with you all again! :)
PS: We really want to thank you all for your patience and trust in our crew!
-DTC
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Now I am starting to get a bit worried. Order was marked in transit the 5th and it still didn't get here. I'm located within EU.
Also thinking of the future options. Has anyone in the EU got their order with tracking without the need of signing for it, if it fit into the mailbox?
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So.....
Placed 2 orders to 2 different locations....
Both should of had tracking BUT for some reason I only got one... kept asking for it, finally when extending the auto finalize date he/she/them tells me that They have no clue where the 2nd tracking number is... Im now on day 20 and DTC says if it doesnt come he will give me 50% refund... how does that work? I should be getting 100% refund when there is no proof that they shipped it.
I have perfect stats, and one other previous successful order from DTC and now this shit. I've never been so frustrated.
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So.....
Placed 2 orders to 2 different locations....
Both should of had tracking BUT for some reason I only got one... kept asking for it, finally when extending the auto finalize date he/she/them tells me that They have no clue where the 2nd tracking number is... Im now on day 20 and DTC says if it doesnt come he will give me 50% refund... how does that work? I should be getting 100% refund when there is no proof that they shipped it.
I have perfect stats, and one other previous successful order from DTC and now this shit. I've never been so frustrated.
when you go into resoulution if it needs to happen when he cant provide proof of shipping via tracking code i believe you will get more then 50%. and since he admitted to not having the code that helps too.
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I have ordered twice with DT and both times the product has been spectacular. Just a quick question for anyone from the US that has ordered with the tracking option. Do you have to sign anything when they deliver the package or not? My mail slot is big enough for their package to fit in. Both times I have ordered I have not chosen that option because I don't want to sign for anything but with shipping taking between 15-20 business days I get really anxious :-\ I feel if I chose tracking it would lessen the anxiety I get from waiting. But not knowing if I would have to sign to get my package would be counter productive..
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I chose tracking to US from DT and it was placed directly in mailbox. No signature required. But that was my first and only order from DT, so not sure what others have experienced. As for his MDMA, I'm anxious for DT's new listings. A+
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So.....
Placed 2 orders to 2 different locations....
Both should of had tracking BUT for some reason I only got one... kept asking for it, finally when extending the auto finalize date he/she/them tells me that They have no clue where the 2nd tracking number is... Im now on day 20 and DTC says if it doesnt come he will give me 50% refund... how does that work? I should be getting 100% refund when there is no proof that they shipped it.
I have perfect stats, and one other previous successful order from DTC and now this shit. I've never been so frustrated.
when you go into resoulution if it needs to happen when he cant provide proof of shipping via tracking code i believe you will get more then 50%. and since he admitted to not having the code that helps too.
Thanks for the info Zebra +1
I really could care less about the refund, I just want my package.. The other one was for a friend, and got here a week ago and I ordered both at the same time so how can one be magically over a week late? though quality was AMAZING... a little lighter in color than previous batch was practically milky white / clear... very well washed! Had very little smell, though smelled pleasantly delicious im pray to the rave gods that it comes.
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I have ordered twice with DT and both times the product has been spectacular. Just a quick question for anyone from the US that has ordered with the tracking option. Do you have to sign anything when they deliver the package or not? My mail slot is big enough for their package to fit in. Both times I have ordered I have not chosen that option because I don't want to sign for anything but with shipping taking between 15-20 business days I get really anxious :-\ I feel if I chose tracking it would lessen the anxiety I get from waiting. But not knowing if I would have to sign to get my package would be counter productive..
Every order iv had from DT with tracking had to be signed for!! I think alot of it has to do with your mail man but if they are following the rules you should have to sign..
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do you ship to New Zealand with tracking but no signature
and do you have a refund policy for tracked items
cheers
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do you ship to New Zealand with tracking but no signature
and do you have a refund policy for tracked items
cheers
Hi Slymike,
As stated on our profile we don't ship to New Zealand and Australia.
-DTC
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Hopefully listings will be up soon!
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You know new zealand and australia are 2 different countrys seperated by a sea right?
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Anyone from EU still waiting for arrival? Next Friday will be full a month since my order was marked in transit.
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mrmdma - any luck on receiving your package?
everyone else - DutchTrade listings are back up. FYI...
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Dutch,
Are your recent listings same quality as your most recent batch?
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I hear the dutch like to stick their fingers in dykes.
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I hear the dutch like to stick their fingers in dykes.
GTFO
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Apparently I am not the only one... I would caution anyone thats placing a order... I am the 2nd person recently to order and not receive tracking and no order, on a order that I paid for the tracking...
I have had 2 other packs come from him with no problems, tracking for both. But for some reason he has no idea where my tracking was for my order thats now over 21 days. I asked when he sent me the first number, no reply, no reply... then finally after putting both of my orders in resolution center he says he has no idea where the 2nd tracking number is. I submited a resolution for 100% refund and he wont reply. Extremly unprofessional from the time I placed my order to now there has been maybe 10 or so 100+ packs ordered how do you magically loose 2? The other person this happen to also didnt get a tracking number.
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If DTC starts to offer paid tracking for the 5 and 10G listings and finally get's his hands on some foil or other MBBs, I might try him again. Otherwise I'll be going somewhere else for the smaller size orders.
Nothing has still arrived as of 2nd of July. Order marked in transit 5th of June. I am located within EU.
Will file a refund on Friday if it's not here by then.
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Subbing.
I ordered from DT when they first opened shop and they were very generous in regards to my order being overweight.
I'm going to most likely place an order for 50g soon and may go with them if things start to go smoothly again.
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I have ordered twice with DT and both times the product has been spectacular. Just a quick question for anyone from the US that has ordered with the tracking option. Do you have to sign anything when they deliver the package or not? My mail slot is big enough for their package to fit in. Both times I have ordered I have not chosen that option because I don't want to sign for anything but with shipping taking between 15-20 business days I get really anxious :-\ I feel if I chose tracking it would lessen the anxiety I get from waiting. But not knowing if I would have to sign to get my package would be counter productive..
I've ordered from DTC with the tracking option as an optional shipping method, and one order requiring the tracking option. Both packages were almost the same size and were identically. (I'm 95% sure, but there might have be a variation.) The order where I was not required to track was left placed in my mailbox. The other order I had to visit my local office and give them the notice card and sign a name. My mileage has varied and I will probably have another trip to the office soon.
Both packages took 17-21 days to arrive. Most of my intercontinental packages usually take 18-22 days to arrive, with the shortest time being 11 business days and the longest at 40ish. Just be sure to check the mail everyday when you expect a delivery.
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24+ days now... my order is under review in the resolution center... highly doubt mine was ever shipped.
Super disappointed... Its really annoying cause if you look at most of the "promising" vendors there seems to be A LOT of scamming going on lately..
Just don't understand how I payed for tracking on 2 items and only received one number? can't wrap my mind around it as to how they could of fucked up... on a fairly large order.
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24+ days now... my order is under review in the resolution center... highly doubt mine was ever shipped.
Super disappointed... Its really annoying cause if you look at most of the "promising" vendors there seems to be A LOT of scamming going on lately..
Just don't understand how I payed for tracking on 2 items and only received one number? can't wrap my mind around it as to how they could of fucked up... on a fairly large order.
It's weird because it seems that quite a few orders went missing within this same time period.
No pack yet :D Today was the mark of a full month for me.
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Just don't understand how I payed for tracking on 2 items and only received one number? can't wrap my mind around it as to how they could of fucked up... on a fairly large order.
Getting your orders mixed up and only shipping 1 of 2 may explain it.
I'd ask for the order to be cancelled or a reship with tracking this time.
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Well I came here to see about the recent feedback, wonder what's going on? It would really be a shock to me if this vendor was scamming. I've used them for large amounts, 100gram orders, and thought DTC was a great vendor. The one thing was it took a couple days to respond to some of my msg's, but always did. If you choose the tracking option you will have to sign for the pkg, at least in my experience. I'm watching this thread like a hawk because I want to make an order soon. The quality i received was grand. I believe it was the previous batch though, beautiful crystalline amber shards. I hope all is well w DTC and good luck to those waiting on orders. Mine took about 15 days.
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DT stuff is moon rock! although packaging could be more better & simpler.
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Yea I have no clue what is going on... submitted several resolutions no with no reply... my order has been under review for almost a day now... I had complete faith in DTC, thats why ive placed 3 orders total.... but now I just don't know what to think.
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Finally got a 75% refund... thanks to SR staff... Honestly would rather have my pack... The other 2 packs I got from DTC where AMAZING... don't know how they dropped the ball on this one... But no worries atleast I didnt loose TOO much. I will be keeping a eye on this thread, if I see things going smoothly again, I think I may take the risk again... but as of now id rather pay more from other vendors that have perfect scores or near perfect.
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Finally got a 75% refund... thanks to SR staff... Honestly would rather have my pack... The other 2 packs I got from DTC where AMAZING... don't know how they dropped the ball on this one... But no worries atleast I didnt loose TOO much. I will be keeping a eye on this thread, if I see things going smoothly again, I think I may take the risk again... but as of now id rather pay more from other vendors that have perfect scores or near perfect.
Did you ask for 100% and mention the tracking was never provided as agreed? Did the vendor ever say anything in the resolution center?
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I did ask for 100% the vendor never said anything.. it was resolved by staff... the vendor said is would check with the rest of the crew for a solution and never responded after that. Sucks to loose that much, especially after coins have dropped ALOT since I placed the order.
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So am from this same time frame with a mising pack. Mine was smaller but its been 4+ weeks and still nothing. Idk what to think I've had an order from another big german guy take 35+ buisness days but that was during christmas.
I just want my pack!
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I did ask for 100% the vendor never said anything.. it was resolved by staff... the vendor said is would check with the rest of the crew for a solution and never responded after that. Sucks to loose that much, especially after coins have dropped ALOT since I placed the order.
I'm really disappointed that SR staff didn't give a 100% refund in a situation like that.
Please don't leave 5/5 feedback unless he communicates with you and works out something for that remaining 25%. If there isn't any tracking and you're being honest that the pack didn't show then it just didn't get sent.
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It has been a month + 5 days with still 1/2 packs to show up... at all
Starting to wonder if #2 was ever sent at all. These are 100g packs by the way. I have gone through several extensions by myself, staff, and DT.
I see several others in this situation and it frustrates me greatly.
ALSO..dutch promised it would be tripple vac sealed.
There was merely two layers of loose non vacuumed plastic, let me tell you, this is terrible stealth. The cleaver disguising doesn't float the rest of the boat either. Dutch needs a drastic overhaul of his stealth..
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It has been a month + 5 days with still 1/2 packs to show up... at all
Starting to wonder if #2 was ever sent at all. These are 100g packs by the way. I have gone through several extensions by myself, staff, and DT.
I see several others in this situation and it frustrates me greatly.
ALSO..dutch promised it would be tripple vac sealed.
There was merely two layers of loose non vacuumed plastic, let me tell you, this is terrible stealth. The cleaver disguising doesn't float the rest of the boat either. Dutch needs a drastic overhaul of his stealth..
Couldn't agree more!!
I also only received 1 of 2 packs... the 1 I did get was loosely sealed as well. If there going to open the pack in the first place best believe that there going to open all the layers.. thus you are fucked. Improve your stealth dtc and your morals/professionalism and I will be back...
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@Infowar: Please take your spam elsewhere!
@TooManuDabbs: We understand the inconvenience of not receiving your package, especially since we "misplaced" the tracking. However, we were the ones offering you the 75% refund with the explanation that we offer you an extra 25% because of this missing tracking, so it wasn't SR Staff fixing that for you. Also yes the forum is the place to communicate with other customers and share experiences, but it's really not necessary to send multiple messages a day talking shit about us. Same as it was unnecessary to send 7 messages to us in one day, asking every hour why we didn't respond yet, when our vendor page states we respond within 48 hours. Hereby we kindly ask you to stop "spamming" our forum topic with all your messages. You received your refund, if you don't like our service/professionalism, we suggest you go to another vendor. --Thank you.
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Hi Guys,
Here is a quick update from us.
Our friend FASTWAYS is new to the road, so let's give him a warm welcome!
FASTWAYS is your specialist in Speed.
If your looking for an honest and solid vendor with top quality speed and the best price on the road.... Visit his vendor page and take a look at his Speed listings.
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Our listings have been back up since last week, please note that summer has arrived and we're also going on holiday.
Due to our summer vacation we will be offline from July 17th until August 5th.
So if you're planning to place a new order soon, please make sure you place your order before July 17th!
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So a few customers didn't receive their package yet, this is very unfortunate for them as well as for us. Please don't make this stop you from placing an order with us. The German Post has had some delay with delivery, due to the water flooding in Germany. we're happy to tell you this is over now, the German Post is back to its normal delivery/shipment time. Also most customers from that shipment have confirmed that they've received their package by now.
Please note that we're an honest and trustworthy vendor and DO NOT scam anyone! Ordering from the road is always a 50/50 risk and therefore we always give a 50% refund after a certain shipping time. Our overall success rate is still >97%
-DTC
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So a few customers didn't receive their package yet, this is very unfortunate for them as well as for us. Please don't make this stop you from placing an order with us. The German Post has had some delay with delivery, due to the water flooding in Germany. we're happy to tell you this is over now, the German Post is back to its normal delivery/shipment time. Also most customers from that shipment have confirmed that they've received their package by now.
Please note that we're an honest and trustworthy vendor and DO NOT scam anyone! Ordering from the road is always a 50/50 risk and therefore we always give a 50% refund after a certain shipping time. Our overall success rate is still >97%
-DTC
Hey DTC,
I don't know what kind of stealth you are using because I never received my order (thanks for the 50% refund though).
However I think I know what it is (won't tell here). The problem with that stealth is that the Nordic customs are too well aware of it these days.
You should consider creating a new second option shipping method to choose from, which would be a plain small business letter envelope, with that transparent plastic window for address info. This method could fit up to 10 grams of grounded up MDMA to make it flat. If you'd also get your hands on MBBs finally (mylar or foil laminated mylar) you could improve your shipping to Sweden, Finland and Norway a lot. Almost all interceptions to these countries are only because they use highly trained drug sniffer dogs.
Also before someone starts to whine about me posting about shipping methods. This is nothing new for customs, it's known all around the world. However it is still one of the most successful shipping methods around for small orders simply because it blends in so well. This method equipped with MBBs is one of the best out there, for orders up to 10G.
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DutchTrade: I urge you to do a search for "3M Dri-Shield" MBBs and get the series 2000 or 2700. Rinse the sealed MBBs to get the residue off the outside of the bags. The German post is catching sets of MDMA packages now.
Best of luck in successful future sales and delivery.
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DutchTrade: I urge you to do a search for "3M Dri-Shield" MBBs and get the series 2000 or 2700. Rinse the sealed MBBs to get the residue off the outside of the bags. The German post is catching sets of MDMA packages now.
Best of luck in successful future sales and delivery.
I think you are right. If you look at the two most recent review pages, there are a lot of 50% refunds.
DTC! Please get your hands on some MBBs.
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Communication was a lot better before I placed my recent 100g order (I'm still waiting for)
Since I placed the order I messaged him 2 different times and he logs-in but doesn't respond... :o :o
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Never received my order, its been a month. Dutch Trade is a selective scammer.
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Agreed
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Communication was a lot better before I placed my recent 100g order (I'm still waiting for)
Since I placed the order I messaged him 2 different times and he logs-in but doesn't respond... :o :o
Good luck with that!
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Communication was a lot better before I placed my recent 100g order (I'm still waiting for)
Since I placed the order I messaged him 2 different times and he logs-in but doesn't respond... :o :o
Good luck with that!
Well...I had a 100G package come 1 day after the auto finalize. About 2-3 weeks ago from DutchTrade.(longest shipping time EVER for me)
I got the tracking to the package I'm waiting on now, but no response for days after he gave me the tracking is kinda shady.
Top 2% with terrible customer service...I can say the first 100G came 10 grams over weight and really big chunks.
This time I'm loosing hope...A bunch of 50% refund after I placed my order. Maybe hes not shipping product and just collecting half of the cash for bulk listings?
IDK I'm not saying he's a scammer, but when a customer has a order worth 1,700 for the second time and you see a message RESPOND!!
I have faith this 2nd package of 100G will come, keep you guys posted!
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I really don't think he is scamming anyone. He is making good money and reputation is "EVERYTHING" for an SilkRoad vendor. I do however believe that the stealth could be changed to a more subtle and basic one for the orders up to 10G. I asked another customer and he told me how it had been packaged which confirmed my guess. What I know for sure is that, that method which they are currently using is well known by the customs around the world by now.
The delivery rate could radically improve if the up to 10 Gram orders were shipped sealed in Mylar/mbb and packaged into ordinary looking business envelopes with paperwork or something inside. The MDMA would have to be powdered/grounded up well though. This might be a deal breaker for some of the funny people who cry if they don't get rocks, which I don't really get because the recrystallization process is so easy a 13 year old could do it.
The recent refund feedback on his vendor page could be because a bunch of shipments were already caught when leaving Germany. The used stealth method is relatively easy to profile I guess, if they know what they are looking for. However, this is only speculation and should not be taken as fact.
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The delivery rate could radically improve if the up to 10 Gram orders were shipped sealed in Mylar/mbb and packaged into ordinary looking business envelopes with paperwork or something inside. The MDMA would have to be powdered/grounded up well though. This might be a deal breaker for some of the funny people who cry if they don't get rocks, which I don't really get because the recrystallization process is so easy a 13 year old could do it.
how easy im 13 and want to know how so i can get them big rocks yum yum ::) ::)
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@MrMdma, if you have a tracking code, you can follow your package at any time.
Also we do respond to your messages, but you expect us to respond immediately, when our agreements on our vendor page state: we reply to messages WITHIN 48 HOURS. And about your package that hasn't arrived yet; it was marked in transit only 7 days ago. How fat do you expect a package to be delivered overseas?!
For all of you customers: The fact that we offer a tracking option for all orders and even provide free tracking codes for larger orders should be enough prove that we are an honest vendor!
Thank you.
-DTC
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@MrMdma, you have a tracking code, so you can follow your package at any time.
What? :) I didn't have tracking for my 5G order that never arrived.
Was this a response to an older message about the possibility to offer tracking for 5G listings also?
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For all of you customers: The fact that we offer a tracking option for all orders and even provide free tracking codes for larger orders should be enough prove that we are an honest vendor!
Thank you.
There was NO tracking on my 5G order; not even an option and it seems that most smaller overseas orders are not arriving. So should I just go ahead and assume that it won't arrive at all? I think the 50% refund thing is a scam by larger vendors. But I love to be surprised so by all means, surprise me.
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I put an order in on last Friday, had the tracking # on Saturday, and it went active on Wednesday. Generally takes about 8-9 days after that point so I expect to see my 100 gram package to USA by next Thursday or Friday. DutchTrade has been impeccably perfect every time thus far.
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Anyone receiving packages sent through Germany or the surrounding region needs to be a little more cautious right now. Packages are getting seized and busts are being made.
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Anyone receiving packages sent through Germany or the surrounding region needs to be a little more cautious right now. Packages are getting seized and busts are being made.
I appreciate the words of caution. Any chance you could provide a little more info to help validate this statement? News links? Country of origin? Your sources?
If you respond please generalize and make any people/events anonymous.
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Wanted to add update: My experiences with DT have all been 5/5.
However, please read everything on these forums with caution - even this post!
It's easy to spam, scam, and fake reviews. Best of luck finding a vendor that works for you.
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Anyone receiving packages sent through Germany or the surrounding region needs to be a little more cautious right now. Packages are getting seized and busts are being made.
I appreciate the words of caution. Any chance you could provide a little more info to help validate this statement? News links? Country of origin? Your sources?
If you respond please generalize and make any people/events anonymous.
One of the biggest MDMA & Speed teams on SR got arrested (AfterHours & Pfandleiher, well we haven't been able to validate yet that did pfandleiher get caught also.). The guys operated from Germany. It's all over the German news and in the afterhours thread aswell as in the Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread.
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thanks for all the caution updates guys!
We have heard and read about it also, therefore will discuss other stealth and packaging options with our crew.
will update on our Vendor Page and here on the forum as soon as we've come up with something new. (more than likely by monday)
-DTC
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Anybody got a link to a news article about it the busts?
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>Anybody got a link to a news article about it the busts?
Couldn't find an English source, but this is the official announcement:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/f1.png
Grabbed because their site shouldn't get too much attention directly from here ;)
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The HEAT is on!!!
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Hi Guys,
Summer(weather) is finally here and so we're also going on summer vacation! Therefore we will be offline from July 16th until August 5th.
Thanks for all the heads up regarding customs being aware of the way of packaging. After our vacation we will be back online, using mbb and another shipping method.
We wish you all a good summer and are looking forward to do business with you all again in August.
-DTC
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Please give our friend FASTWAYS a warm welcome to the road!
He is specialist in in speed. So when you are looking for a good and honest vendor with the best price on the road..
Please take a look at his listings!
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Hi Guys,
Summer(weather) is finally here and so we're also going on summer vacation! Therefore we will be offline from July 16th until August 5th.
Thanks for all the heads up regarding customs being aware of the way of packaging. After our vacation we will be back online, using mbb and another shipping method.
We wish you all a good summer and are looking forward to do business with you all again in August.
-DTC
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Please give our friend FASTWAYS a warm welcome to the road!
He is specialist in in speed. So when you are looking for a good and honest vendor with the best price on the road..
Please take a look at his listings!
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IF my package doesn't come and I need a time extension how will that work? I have 6 days left and your taking vacation in 2 o-O
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Hi Guys,
Summer(weather) is finally here and so we're also going on summer vacation! Therefore we will be offline from July 16th until August 5th.
Thanks for all the heads up regarding customs being aware of the way of packaging. After our vacation we will be back online, using mbb and another shipping method.
We wish you all a good summer and are looking forward to do business with you all again in August.
-DTC
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Please give our friend FASTWAYS a warm welcome to the road!
He is specialist in in speed. So when you are looking for a good and honest vendor with the best price on the road..
Please take a look at his listings!
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Yeah, how will we go through the resolution process?
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@MrMdma, if you have a tracking code, you can follow your package at any time.
Also we do respond to your messages, but you expect us to respond immediately, when our agreements on our vendor page state: we reply to messages WITHIN 48 HOURS. And about your package that hasn't arrived yet; it was marked in transit only 7 days ago. How fat do you expect a package to be delivered overseas?!
For all of you customers: The fact that we offer a tracking option for all orders and even provide free tracking codes for larger orders should be enough prove that we are an honest vendor!
Thank you.
-DTC
LOL except when you don't provide tracking .. and nothing shows even though the buyer paid for tracking, and you claim its free... good luck with everyone ordering from this unorganized vendor... there has been several big packs just magically missing, either your stealth sucks ( which its extremely over used stealth) or your just not sending them. BUYERS BEWARE!!!! U I had perfect stats until this guy screwed me.
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Hi Guys,
Summer(weather) is finally here and so we're also going on summer vacation! Therefore we will be offline from July 16th until August 5th.
Thanks for all the heads up regarding customs being aware of the way of packaging. After our vacation we will be back online, using mbb and another shipping method.
We wish you all a good summer and are looking forward to do business with you all again in August.
-DTC
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Please give our friend FASTWAYS a warm welcome to the road!
He is specialist in in speed. So when you are looking for a good and honest vendor with the best price on the road..
Please take a look at his listings!
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IF my package doesn't come and I need a time extension how will that work? I have 6 days left and your taking vacation in 2 o-O
Silkroad staff may approve your extension requests. Just make sure you put them in early enough!
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Is today your last day taking orders prior to your vacation?
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This actually sounds interesting.
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WTF IS GOING ON
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Whatever it was, looks like the user and their messages have been purged.
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Whatever it was, looks like the user and their messages have been purged.
What happened exactly? More of those address spams?
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Whatever it was, looks like the user and their messages have been purged.
What happened exactly? More of those address spams?
Yep.
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thats scary..i freaked out when i saw that lol. Are those real addresses? I cant possibly see how someone would be able to attain that info
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Hi Guys,
Don't worry about extensions and resolution process, we don't go anywhere without our computer so even on vacation your messages and resolution requests will be responded to (2 or 3 times a week). And of course when checking our messages and resolution requests, we will also check the forum.
We were planning to go offline tomorrow, but because of our message about our vacation here on the forum and on our vendor page, orders have been coming in like crazy! Therefore we have pulled down our listings. The already placed orders will be processed tonight and tomorrow and will be shipped out tomorrow night.
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whoa! more drama on SR.
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Just got my 50g order in just in time.
I sent you a message because it's the 16th and listings were still up, I guess you can disregard that.
Am I eligible for the 10% extra? :)
Looking forward to seeing your product.
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Dutchtrade, PLEASE KEEP YOUR FIFTY GRAM LISTING UP FOR ANOTHER FIVE HOURS. I'm waiting on a bitcoin transaction to come through so that I can purchase your listing. I always go through you guys! Please stay open for about five more hours!
Much love, gnome.
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100g is still up.... can I take it?
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I see that you are supposed to be on vacation but the 100gram listing is still available. Are you still shipping bulk? I want to order through you but I dont want to wait 2 or 3 weeks for it to be shipped..
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I ordered when all listings were up and I still ordered. It's still processing when they said they would take down the listings yesterday and ship them out later, so I hope I dont have to wait weeks til they get back..
Just want some confirmation DT on SR or here
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Shouldn't have been so quick to order, as my order was cancelled. Lost about 40 bucks due to escrow and now bitcoins are dropping. FML
I hope the other posters above are not in my position.
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I got my order in the day before DT went on VACA. Hopefully all goes well being that a lot of people didn't receive their orders. When DT comes back hopefully he does provide better stealth with MBB! That's what makes or breaks most vendors.
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I have 2 orders placed just before the vacation.. I was given my TNs 10 days ago.. Still no update. Like they have not been sent at all..
I have recieved many other packs from DT and they all updated after a few days.. WTF? Should I worry or give my drop addy a heads up?
Thanks.
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I got my 100 gram pack, 14 days after being marked shipped. Order was 9.8 grams overweight. Perfect as usual!
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Hi Guys!
First of all: Sorry for the delay with sending the tracking codes and answering messages. We've had some troubles with the internet connection at the hotel.
We're sure that all of your packages has been sent out before our vacation. It can take a bit longer because the post office is closed during the weekend.
So we hope your orders will get an update on the tracking codes and will arrive soon!
We try to answer your messages within 2-3 days.
We will be back online in the first week of August!
-DTC
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has anybody tried his last batch yet? any reviews?
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has anybody tried his last batch yet? any reviews?
i got one coming on the way ill update on how it is when i receive it.
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BTW are there any news caused on the big bust in germany? who is taking care about Pfandleihers acc if he got busted? I´m still irritated... everybody thought PF was the guy in Deggendorf...
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BTW are there any news caused on the big bust in germany? who is taking care about Pfandleihers acc if he got busted? I´m still irritated... everybody thought PF was the guy in Deggendorf...
Wrong thread man.
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BTW are there any news caused on the big bust in germany? who is taking care about Pfandleihers acc if he got busted? I´m still irritated... everybody thought PF was the guy in Deggendorf...
I can´t find the thread anymore, which was called "big germany bust" ... strange?!
sry for wrong thread...
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I have 2 orders placed just before the vacation.. I was given my TNs 10 days ago.. Still no update. Like they have not been sent at all..
I have recieved many other packs from DT and they all updated after a few days.. WTF? Should I worry or give my drop addy a heads up?
Thanks.
Everything went smoothly. Got my packs. And already ready for more. NEED YOU BACK DTC! haha enjoy your vacation, yall deserve it!
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any statements on quality of product?
I have stopped rolling a few months ago. Molly has lost its magic, i do not think it is worth frying braincells and facing mandy blues fro a sub-par experience. hence cannot comment on quality as such
visually, it is all rocks, small ones. Brown in colour (somewhat like in the product listing, but obviously broken down into smaller pieces). smells of sassy, very faintly. tastes bitter just like any other mdma(i tasted a tiny crystal, the size of a salt grain)
I think its best to take a picture for the community.. give me a little time..
how much molly have you done to lose the magic ? im assuming alot?
i always wait months after a roll .. and i nearly always get the same feeling when i roll
i think its time you start going on a healthy diet and eat superfoods that will slowly put your brain chemistry back in order :D ...
mdma isnt a drug you can take on a regular basis your body and brain tells you that when your coming down from a trip shows you that its not natural to feel that happy on a regular basis- my no1 rule with drugs , moderation is key and learn from the experience dont abuse it , ohh and always get the best quality stuff even if its pricey you dont want to damage your most prized possession (your mind)
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hurry back i got coins today
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dig these guys
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Really need to try some of this dutch MDMA some time
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Hi guys,
Almost all our crew members are back from vacation.
Hopefully our listings will be back up next week.
we are trying our best to get mbb before we're back online, unfortunately there's only one mbb vendor over at our side of the world and he depends on a American supplier who's been having trouble with shipping mbb overseas.
-DTC
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Hi guys,
Almost all our crew members are back from vacation.
Hopefully our listings will be back up next week.
we are trying our best to get mbb before we're back online, unfortunately there's only one mbb vendor over at our side of the world and he depends on a American supplier who's been having trouble with shipping mbb overseas.
-DTC
please get the mbb sourced if possible and do please also do notify and truthfully tell us this time :/. for those new to this thread and as a little reminder I had somewhat of an issue when dt profile page stated that mbb was in use. some members backed this claim and some such as I reported no use.
dutchtrade- overall 4/5
my quick review
ship time5/5-<10days wicked fast imo
stealth-3/5; glue part very weak (-1), could use tape within the pack ie idk if it would be too difficult to tape the end from the inside by leaving 1/2 of the tape applied upside down and when closed you apply pressure an inch below the flap to seal it. ; my pack did not have mbb (-1). very disappointed as vendor said to use mbb some time ago (on this thread); smart stealth other than that
product-?/5-little to no odor, high ratio of chunks 95%/dust. product goes from either rocks to white shimmery very fine powder. does not have a sand like quality. VERY clear. not milky color, but clear crystals. very pleased with visual of the product.
overall- will order again. slight hiccup but problem solved.
*vendor stated that mbb would be used a long time ago. maybe i got sent an old pack. dt alluded to this
as said before; dutchtrade has the best price when factoring in the extra 10%. thanks for your service; i do hope to order when mbb is sourced.
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sounds like a good vendor
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Hi guys,
Almost all our crew members are back from vacation.
Hopefully our listings will be back up next week.
we are trying our best to get mbb before we're back online, unfortunately there's only one mbb vendor over at our side of the world and he depends on a American supplier who's been having trouble with shipping mbb overseas.
-DTC
Search for "3M Dri-Shield 2000". I can't imagine they aren't available in Europe. If needed though buy them from an American company. Also, lots of other vendors in the EU use MBBs so there must be other options.
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Hi guys,
Almost all our crew members are back from vacation.
Hopefully our listings will be back up next week.
we are trying our best to get mbb before we're back online, unfortunately there's only one mbb vendor over at our side of the world and he depends on a American supplier who's been having trouble with shipping mbb overseas.
-DTC
I sent you a forum PM with multiple suppliers with stock, located within the EU. I don't want to publicly post them here on the forums since that could help LE.
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Thanks for all the advices and links to mbb suppliers.
In our country (NL) there's only 1 big supplier of mbb, who we're waiting on at the moment.
We were planning to be online already, but due to quality and safety reasons it will take another week or 2 before we'll be back online.
Sorry for the inconvenience, but to us nothing is more important than the best quality and safety.
We'll keep ya'll updated!
-DTC
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Go to another country and get the MBBs then.
I do appreciate that you're delaying your return due to safety though. The old stealth/drops are no longer sufficient.
Many vendors in the UK have figured out that it is best to send drugs as flat business mail. You can flatten and ship 100g in an A4 business envelope. The MDMA will need to be crushed but many customers would prefer crushed MDMA over a lost pack or a controlled delivery. Not all customers of course.
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Go to another country and get the MBBs then.
I do appreciate that you're delaying your return due to safety though. The old stealth/drops are no longer sufficient.
Many vendors in the UK have figured out that it is best to send drugs as flat business mail. You can flatten and ship 100g in an A4 business envelope. The MDMA will need to be crushed but many customers would prefer crushed MDMA over a lost pack or a controlled delivery. Not all customers of course.
This is absolutely true. +1
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very interesting
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when do you think you will be back in stock? looking to make an order soon.
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when do you think you will be back in stock? looking to make an order soon.
^^^THIS
We miss you Dutch!!!
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Hi guys,
Our listings are back online.
We're looking forward to receiving your orders starting from NOW! :)
-DTC
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are u using mbb bags now???
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It doesn't sound like it from the looks of his vendor page. Hard to get a hold of, apparently.
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you guys need to get your customer support together
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MBBs are completely legal and readily available throughout the world. I'm amazed that a vendor supplying a highly illegal drug can't figure out how to acquire MBBs.
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@Slirp: Trust me, we're trying the best we can to get a hold on mbb, but obviously some of you think to know how shipping and customs work in our country better than we do, without ever been or worked here ;) It's not for no reason we choose to ship from another country.
As we believe in solid and long term business relationships, we chose to give our "mbb"vendor another 2 weeks to come through, meanwhile we're already looking into other options.
As stated on our page: When our listings are up, messages will be replied to within 48 hours. Orders will be confirmed within 24 hours after placing your order. (Please keep in mind the 5-7 hrs time difference). So to be honest we don't understand what the comment "you need to get your customer service together" is all about, as we always do the best we can to live up to these terms.
All orders placed on saturday/sunday were processed Sunday night, but when trying to confirm the orders we were thrown off SR and unable to access it for the rest of the night. Therefore all these orders were not confirmed yet, until today. They are all packed and ready to send out today though.
We're looking forward to keep the business going with you all.
-DTC
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@Slirp: Trust me, we're trying the best we can to get a hold on mbb, but obviously some of you think to know how shipping and customs work in our country better than we do, without ever been or worked here ;) It's not for no reason we choose to ship from another country.
As we believe in solid and long term business relationships, we chose to give our "mbb"vendor another 2 weeks to come through, meanwhile we're already looking into other options.
-DTC
you can get MBB bags almost anywhere. a quick google search showed literally hundreds of legal suppliers. I hope you get them soon, it will definitely make it more comfortable for us over-sea buyers
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@Slirp: Trust me, we're trying the best we can to get a hold on mbb, but obviously some of you think to know how shipping and customs work in our country better than we do, without ever been or worked here ;) It's not for no reason we choose to ship from another country.
As we believe in solid and long term business relationships, we chose to give our "mbb"vendor another 2 weeks to come through, meanwhile we're already looking into other options.
-DTC
you can get MBB bags almost anywhere. a quick google search showed literally hundreds of legal suppliers. I hope you get them soon, it will definitely make it more comfortable for us over-sea buyers
+1; not to hijack, but have you considered ItalianMafiaBrussels or Interways? i believe they may be good alternative choices.
quick overview
dutch-
mbb-No
refund-"Q : Can i get a refund ?
A : If your order isn't delivered after 30 workdays, you will get a 50% refund in bit coins"
reship-No
price- 970/55=17.63
1732.80/110=15.75
237.66/11=21.61
135.05/5.5=24.55
*all per/g
italianmafiabrussles-
mbb-yes 7d 1h old
"Stealth - 5/5 - MBB was used on the product which is a must have nowadays. I would say it's a little bit better than the usual stealth that's been going around nowadays from the other big vendors of MDMA and I would much rather prefer to have IMBs stealth to theirs. It would have to get completely opened to know what's inside."
refund rate- REFUNDS:
EU except Sweden = 60%
USA: 50%
Rest of the world and Norway/Sweden: 25%
reship-possibly
price-5200/300=17.33
17000/1000=17
2756/150=18.37
4488.90/250=17.96
1850/100=18.50
*all per/g
interways-
mbb-no; no mention on profile or in customer review
refund/reship-"NO REFUNDS or RESHIPS on orders without Tracking.
REFUNDS or RESHIPS will only be given in resolution center.
The maximum Interways will offer you is a 50% REFUND on tracked orders.
(If proven not delivered or confiscated)"
price-1891.60/100=18.92
1097.40/50=21.95
612.50/28.5=21.49
257.79/10=25.78
*all per/g
seems like italianmafiabrussles or holly would be better sellers as interways doesn't seem to use mbb, however both sellers do have much higher minimums that may not allow others to order from aditionally holly has some restrictions on where packages can be sent. who elese uses mbb? dutch always has the cheapest product out there, but without mbb i must sit on the sidelines
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Hello everyone and welcome back DutchTrade!
I' m getting ready to put in a bulk order with Dutch and am excited to see the new stealth! After two non deliveries in the past from DT I am nervous about this order as it will be my biggest yet; however, if DT is being truthful about his packaging being revamped and in addition to MBBs I am very hopeful it will arrive without problem. Obviously I will leave a detailed review of the whole transaction for those you are wary of ordering again with DT after his little hiatus.
I have been one of the very first customers of DT's and every transaction has been excellent with the majority of my orders delivering amazing quality in quick transit times as well. I have no reason to think my next order will be any different.
Will keep everyone posted!
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Hello everyone and welcome back DutchTrade!
I' m getting ready to put in a bulk order with Dutch and am excited to see the new stealth! After two non deliveries in the past from DT I am nervous about this order as it will be my biggest yet; however, if DT is being truthful about his packaging being revamped and in addition to MBBs I am very hopeful it will arrive without problem. Obviously I will leave a detailed review of the whole transaction for those you are wary of ordering again with DT after his little hiatus.
I have been one of the very first customers of DT's and every transaction has been excellent with the majority of my orders delivering amazing quality in quick transit times as well. I have no reason to think my next order will be any different.
Will keep everyone posted!
but he isnt using mbb still
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If I ever get proof that DT is using mbb I'm going to start with a 5g listing, and work my way up from there...I'm not very impressed with all of his feedback saying that packages never arrived, that's not cool...I'm not rich, I can't just chunk money away on 50% refunds, just because vendors won't properly stealth items...I REALLY REALLY WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU, PLEASE START USING MBB!
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Looking forward to ordering with this guy again. I ordered 10g a while ago and it's fantastic stuff.
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@Slirp: Trust me, we're trying the best we can to get a hold on mbb, but obviously some of you think to know how shipping and customs work in our country better than we do, without ever been or worked here ;) It's not for no reason we choose to ship from another country.
As we believe in solid and long term business relationships, we chose to give our "mbb"vendor another 2 weeks to come through, meanwhile we're already looking into other options.
We're looking forward to keep the business going with you all.
-DTC
Just to be clear, I really do want you to be successful. It is just that the old stealth and drop-off locations don't work like they used to. I do believe you can overcome those obstacles. We need you to overcome those problems. Here in the US we need bulk MDMA because otherwise people are getting sold methylone as "molly" which is a tragedy.
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where did the 50g listing go?
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@Slirp: Trust me, we're trying the best we can to get a hold on mbb, but obviously some of you think to know how shipping and customs work in our country better than we do, without ever been or worked here ;) It's not for no reason we choose to ship from another country.
As we believe in solid and long term business relationships, we chose to give our "mbb"vendor another 2 weeks to come through, meanwhile we're already looking into other options.
-DTC
So, you're not shipping from Germany? Were you shipping from there before, and change locations?
Also, I'm not worried about your customs, I'm worried about US customs...How is your rate to America? Are you having problems with packages sent here?
Your products and prices are great, I just want to make sure they make it to my hands, if I pay for them....
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@Slirp: Trust me, we're trying the best we can to get a hold on mbb, but obviously some of you think to know how shipping and customs work in our country better than we do, without ever been or worked here ;) It's not for no reason we choose to ship from another country.
As we believe in solid and long term business relationships, we chose to give our "mbb"vendor another 2 weeks to come through, meanwhile we're already looking into other options.
-DTC
So, you're not shipping from Germany? Were you shipping from there before, and change locations?
Also, I'm not worried about your customs, I'm worried about US customs...How is your rate to America? Are you having problems with packages sent here?
Your products and prices are great, I just want to make sure they make it to my hands, if I pay for them....
A lot of packages from numerous vendors aren't making it out of Germany lately much like packs often don't make it out of the Netherlands.
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Go to another country and get the MBBs then.
I do appreciate that you're delaying your return due to safety though. The old stealth/drops are no longer sufficient.
Many vendors in the UK have figured out that it is best to send drugs as flat business mail. You can flatten and ship 100g in an A4 business envelope. The MDMA will need to be crushed but many customers would prefer crushed MDMA over a lost pack or a controlled delivery. Not all customers of course.
This is absolutely true. +1
i agree i have had orders with u before and all went smooth but looking back the past three months or so a few haven't received, i like this suggestion, i dont need the rocks i just need it here to the states so please choose a method that will make it. idk if i should wait and get some reeviews or go ahead and risk it. .....
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Had some issues with another vendor while DTs absence. BTCs were stuck for 3 weeks in escrow. Was really happy when i saw, that I'd be able to order the next package from legendary DutchTrade (never did so but big rep). Now order is processing for the third day and I noticed that there is no new feedback since they returned... And I just read that claim to be sending from somewhere else now.
Hopefully the long processing time is only due to packaging issues with too many orders(since they took out 2 listings)... But I'm getting a bit scared again...
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may try
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Hi again,
Sorry it took a while to confirm your orders, but we have experienced some problems with accessing SR the past days. More than likely so have you. This doesn't mean your order wasn't processed yet, it just wasn't confirmed
You guys shouldn't believe everything that's been written on the forum, as some people put things here they assume but don't know for sure. As long as we didn't state to send it from somewhere else than Germany on our vendor page or forum, we obviously didn't change that! we are still shipping from Germany, have never shipped from anywhere else and won't.
In the last batch before our vacation there were a few orders that didn't arrive.
The customers were leaving comments about their missing packages on this forum topic of course and this lead to a conversation between those customers, which made it seem like a lot of packages went missing, when really it were the same customers leaving comments about this to each other all the time. Nothing wrong with those conversations of course, because that's what this forum is here for but please know that our WORLDWIDE SUCCESS RATE IS STILL OVER 96%
Our mbb supplier finally received his order and is able to deliver it to us after this weekend. So we are happy to inform you that we will be using MBB after this weekend!
Our listings are currently down, this is only because our first batch is sold out completely. We will restock the quantity of all listings again tomorrow (Monday). Please look at the quantity on each listing, this will tell you how much there is left to order.
Thanks for all your orders guys, the fact that we ran out of stock within a week is good thing lol!
When placing your order, make sure you leave your full address in the order. Addresses without postal code or country won't be shipped out!
We always send every customer a message and 2nd reminder to resend the address, please note that after not replying to this 2nd reminder, your order will be cancelled.
-DTC
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Yo, DTC!
Now that you guys are confirming MBBs for shipment I can't wait for your to post the revised listings - It's after the weekend everywhere in the world by now. I'd also like to thank you on behalf of us all , your customers, for taking the time to ensure our mutual safety and chances for successful transactions by upgrading your shipping methods.
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DTC,
The next thing you should consider is that you would send the 5-10g MDMA orders as ground up crystal powder. Some people prefer safety over rocks and recrystallization is really easy to pull off at the customer's end. Vac seal it once for flatness, wipe with Isopropyl alcohol and then seal in MBB. Fold some paper around it and just make it look like regular business mail. This method also looks less noticeable in x-ray images.
The bulky method I think you are still using is known by customs worldwide and some countries specially screen for stuff that get's sent inside those "things".
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DTC,
The next thing you should consider is that you would send the 5-10g MDMA orders as ground up crystal powder. Some people prefer safety over rocks and recrystallization is really easy to pull off at the customer's end. Vac seal it once for flatness, wipe with Isopropyl alcohol and then seal in MBB. Fold some paper around it and just make it look like regular business mail. This method also looks less noticeable in x-ray images.
The bulky method I think you are still using is known buy customs worldwide and some countries specially screen for stuff that get's sent inside those "things".
couldn't agree more.
His particular method is a little too obvious and is the only thing putting me off ordering from DT, even though every single order I have placed from Netherlands/Germany has arrived.
I would much rather prefer a simple "business mail - like", flat letter, with crushed powder in it. Such mail is much harder to screen due to the large volumes.
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-Update September 23rd-
Hi Guys,
Our apologies for being offline longer than expected again.
Due to a problem in our business process we will be offline for another 2 weeks. More than likely our listings will be back up in the second week of October.
A good thing is that we will be using mbb when we're back online.
Again, we're very sorry about this inconvenience for you all (and ourselves) and hopefully we may welcome you back to our profile again in October and be your supplier of topnotch mdma.
-DTC
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I must admit I'm bummed about the long break but I still have a small stash of your great product so I should be good for a month :)
Guess I'll just have to order double next time.
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Shame..If you're ever back online dutch, holla with a PGP key!
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dutch is that really u on sheep or someone going under your name?????