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Title: First time using NBOME
Post by: cerealbox on April 20, 2012, 08:13 pm
I've done shrooms before, 2C-B and MDMA. Dunno if that helps any, but I was wondering how much I should take my first time. Two tabs mayhaps?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: snipeemfl0 on April 20, 2012, 09:18 pm
I would say 700mcg is a good start, maybe 1000mcg if your bigger.

If you use too much NBOME you will not get good visuals for a long time, 1-2 months.

You can always do it again, just start low, people have been known to OD easily on this stuff
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: cerealbox on April 20, 2012, 10:42 pm
I took my first hit more than two hours ago and my second two more than an hour ago. At what point should I conclude I was sold some bum NBOME and move on to another drug for this evening?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: snipeemfl0 on April 20, 2012, 10:58 pm
Did you hold it on the roof of your mouth or gums for 20 minutes? If so, 2 hours should defiantly show signs that its working
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: cerealbox on April 20, 2012, 11:25 pm
I did. The first hit with my upper gum and the second two with my lower gums.

I'm going to do some 2c-b now.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: cerealbox on April 21, 2012, 12:19 am
Taking what I believe to be 8 hits of NBOME in addition to a good dose of 2c-b. Wish me luck! And by luck I mean not death.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: towelie on April 21, 2012, 02:59 am
Are you able to type?  How is it?

I'm fixing to eat two tabs and if it don't work I have 2c-b back-up as well. :D
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 04:36 pm
I recommend starting at 500ug. (One of kwiktrip's tabs.) Also, i noticed no one else has mentioned the potential for vasoconstriction. If you get where you can't breathe. Taking a anti histamine has proven to help for me. Benydryl is the most common. You shouldn't have to take over the recommended dose but on high trips i have had to take two benydryls.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: 328502E on April 25, 2012, 06:11 pm
Taking what I believe to be 8 hits of NBOME in addition to a good dose of 2c-b. Wish me luck! And by luck I mean not death.

This was an incredibly reckless and irresponsible choice.  This level of irresponsibility are why drugs are banned.  I really hope you do not OD, as the media will jump to this new drug you took and demonize it. 

I know it is likely you will ignore this warning and rationalize your discrediting me based on what I am saying, but please - take a good long look at your drug use.  I'm warning you, you are already over the edge and abusing the drug, and if you take something more addictive it will likely begin to control your life more than you wish. 
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Limetless on April 25, 2012, 06:44 pm
8 hits? No offense OP but are you stupid? I sell this shit and when I do it I rarely do more than 1mg. It's powerful shit.

Clearly whoever sold you the tabs sold you bum hits or just very weak ones but come on...8 hits and then 2C-B? Smacks of a death wish to me. Completely stupid.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 08:13 pm
So if you took 8 500 ug tabs. That puts you at 4mg. (That's hoping for the best and they are not 1mg tabs.) The highest i have ever seen someone take personally was 1.5mg. Those were spread out through the course 12 hours. But, if you took them all after each other like that and then some 2cb? I recommend that you seek medical attention immediately. The media would love something like this, but not as much as they would love a death. I hope that you are ok and do seek some form of help. I have done nbome multiple times and found it to be too vasoconstricting for the effects. So i could only imagine a high dose like that would do. I wish you the best and will be praying for you. I'm hoping this is just a troll.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Limetless on April 25, 2012, 08:29 pm
So if you took 8 500 ug tabs. That puts you at 4mg. (That's hoping for the best and they are not 1mg tabs.) The highest i have ever seen someone take personally was 1.5mg. Those were spread out through the course 12 hours. But, if you took them all after each other like that and then some 2cb? I recommend that you seek medical attention immediately. The media would love something like this, but not as much as they would love a death. I hope that you are ok and do seek some form of help. I have done nbome multiple times and found it to be too vasoconstricting for the effects. So i could only imagine a high dose like that would do. I wish you the best and will be praying for you. I'm hoping this is just a troll.

YUP!
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trinitron421 on April 25, 2012, 10:11 pm
So if you took 8 500 ug tabs. That puts you at 4mg. (That's hoping for the best and they are not 1mg tabs.) The highest i have ever seen someone take personally was 1.5mg. Those were spread out through the course 12 hours. But, if you took them all after each other like that and then some 2cb? I recommend that you seek medical attention immediately. The media would love something like this, but not as much as they would love a death. I hope that you are ok and do seek some form of help. I have done nbome multiple times and found it to be too vasoconstricting for the effects. So i could only imagine a high dose like that would do. I wish you the best and will be praying for you. I'm hoping this is just a troll.

DudeRugs must be misrepresenting his tabs then, on erowid I would have assumed the lethal dose to be somewhere in the 4-5mg range as well. Though, I took a few and next thing I know I had taken 4 of DudeRugs 1mg tabs. Me and my brother both were sweating, blacking out, and found ourselves laying on the bathroom floor in pools of our own sweat (cannot express how much sweat there was, I am sure I was overheating.) we looked at eachother and asked "what have we done?" was hard to understand anything, and I had to call a friend over. Came down in about 14 hours and was still slightly tripping for the whole day afterwards (not a wink of sleep either).

I may have cut it close, but DudeRugs had mentioned on his page that his wife had taken up to 5, I think.

Eitherway, I think you will be safe if it is real 25i. You might freak out, and you might have a slight overdose, but from my experience it wasn't a lethal dose. Just too high for my first time.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 10:22 pm
So if you took 8 500 ug tabs. That puts you at 4mg. (That's hoping for the best and they are not 1mg tabs.) The highest i have ever seen someone take personally was 1.5mg. Those were spread out through the course 12 hours. But, if you took them all after each other like that and then some 2cb? I recommend that you seek medical attention immediately. The media would love something like this, but not as much as they would love a death. I hope that you are ok and do seek some form of help. I have done nbome multiple times and found it to be too vasoconstricting for the effects. So i could only imagine a high dose like that would do. I wish you the best and will be praying for you. I'm hoping this is just a troll.

DudeRugs must be misrepresenting his tabs then, on erowid I would have assumed the lethal dose to be somewhere in the 4-5mg range as well. Though, I took a few and next thing I know I had taken 4 of DudeRugs 1mg tabs. Me and my brother both were sweating, blacking out, and found ourselves laying on the bathroom floor in pools of our own sweat (cannot express how much sweat there was, I am sure I was overheating.) we looked at eachother and asked "what have we done?" was hard to understand anything, and I had to call a friend over. Came down in about 14 hours and was still slightly tripping for the whole day afterwards (not a wink of sleep either).

I may have cut it close, but DudeRugs had mentioned on his page that his wife had taken up to 5, I think.

Eitherway, I think you will be safe if it is real 25i. You might freak out, and you might have a slight overdose, but from my experience it wasn't a lethal dose. Just too high for my first time.
Did you have a hard time breathing? Real tight chest, shallow breathing?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Limetless on April 25, 2012, 10:28 pm
Pools of sweat....sounds grim to say the least.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trinitron421 on April 25, 2012, 10:40 pm
So if you took 8 500 ug tabs. That puts you at 4mg. (That's hoping for the best and they are not 1mg tabs.) The highest i have ever seen someone take personally was 1.5mg. Those were spread out through the course 12 hours. But, if you took them all after each other like that and then some 2cb? I recommend that you seek medical attention immediately. The media would love something like this, but not as much as they would love a death. I hope that you are ok and do seek some form of help. I have done nbome multiple times and found it to be too vasoconstricting for the effects. So i could only imagine a high dose like that would do. I wish you the best and will be praying for you. I'm hoping this is just a troll.

DudeRugs must be misrepresenting his tabs then, on erowid I would have assumed the lethal dose to be somewhere in the 4-5mg range as well. Though, I took a few and next thing I know I had taken 4 of DudeRugs 1mg tabs. Me and my brother both were sweating, blacking out, and found ourselves laying on the bathroom floor in pools of our own sweat (cannot express how much sweat there was, I am sure I was overheating.) we looked at eachother and asked "what have we done?" was hard to understand anything, and I had to call a friend over. Came down in about 14 hours and was still slightly tripping for the whole day afterwards (not a wink of sleep either).

I may have cut it close, but DudeRugs had mentioned on his page that his wife had taken up to 5, I think.

Eitherway, I think you will be safe if it is real 25i. You might freak out, and you might have a slight overdose, but from my experience it wasn't a lethal dose. Just too high for my first time.
Did you have a hard time breathing? Real tight chest, shallow breathing?

Like some drugs, I lost the sensation of my chest. Couldn't feel the sensation that I was breathing, so it is almost like the feeling of suffocating.

And Limitless, it was quite grim to say the least. I had to get enough resolve to assure my brother that I had not killed him.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 10:50 pm
Well if you end up using Nbome again in the future. Take a anti-histamine such as benydryl and see if it helps with breathing.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trinitron421 on April 25, 2012, 10:53 pm
Well if you end up using Nbome again in the future. Take a anti-histamine such as benydryl and see if it helps with breathing.

I always keep an epi-pen and benadryl on hand incase of an allergic reactions. Will take one next time, I hope it never hapens again, and see how it works.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Limetless on April 25, 2012, 10:57 pm
And Limitless, it was quite grim to say the least. I had to get enough resolve to assure my brother that I had not killed him.

Fuck that for a laugh! I've done 2mg over the course of 12 hours before and that was intense.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trinitron421 on April 25, 2012, 11:10 pm
And Limitless, it was quite grim to say the least. I had to get enough resolve to assure my brother that I had not killed him.

Fuck that for a laugh! I've done 2mg over the course of 12 hours before and that was intense.

Though, I've never had such intense LIFELIKE (Sorry, DMT and most traditional psychedelics [excluding LSD] are just morphing surfaces[though, this can be fully immersed in a "3D room"] and patterns for me) visuals. Ever imagine a psychic dragon flying through one wall and then out the other? I'm talking, a rainbow colored chinese dragon leaving trails of flames in his path. And I thought visuals like those were just misinterpretations, but I believe it is just something special about nbome. :)

Definitely my favorite RC.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Limetless on April 25, 2012, 11:14 pm
Hahaha nice! I did see some weird shit though to be fair, when I did it I kept talking to my rose bush in my gardener (yeah, I'm into gardening, centers me) anyway yeah, I kept having a full blown conversation with this rose bush and the bush looked like a face that kept moving. Was intense.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 11:48 pm
Hahaha nice! I did see some weird shit though to be fair, when I did it I kept talking to my rose bush in my gardener (yeah, I'm into gardening, centers me) anyway yeah, I kept having a full blown conversation with this rose bush and the bush looked like a face that kept moving. Was intense.
What's wrong with gardening? It gives me a quiet place, i get to talk to all my plants, and if i do things right. I have something to munch on when i harvest. :)

Has anyone noticed that pictures seem like they come to life if you look at them long enough? For instance i was looking at this picture of a girl cooking cookies. She was not facing the camera so you couldn't see her face, but if i would look at the picture long enough. She would slowly turn her head and smile at me. Crazy shit lol.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: SpaceWalk on April 25, 2012, 11:50 pm
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on April 26, 2012, 12:31 am
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....

I said i have seen personally. I have had a few people tell me they took 4 tabs which would be 4mg. I didn't get to see them when they ingested it. But, how they sounded on the phone i was surprised they could even dial lol.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: lenka58 on April 26, 2012, 12:35 am
I've found vasoconstriction to be a real problem with 25I. I won't take over 1mg.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: le botbahn on April 26, 2012, 01:24 am
I have had 0 issues with vasoconstriction in 4 trips so far, nor have those I've shared with, in the case of 25i.

Can someone provide a source for the issue of vasoconstriction? A legit source, not anecdotal evidence from a trip report. I've see this claim thrown around frequently but nobody ever posts evidence.

My experience with 25i has been nothing short of glowing, though somewhat unpredictable in terms of dosage. For example:
A friend and myself dosed at 1.6 mg and for me this was the most visually intense trip I've ever experienced. It was the perfect experience imo.

2 days later, we tripped again at 3.6 mg. He tripped harder than before, while I barely tripped.

This could be due to the nature of the compound or inconsistencies in  blotter laying. I believe it has  more to do with the later, which may be trickier than LSD based on the low solubility of NBOMEs/large volume of liquid required.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: 328502E on April 26, 2012, 07:29 am
I have had 0 issues with vasoconstriction in 4 trips so far, nor have those I've shared with, in the case of 25i.

Can someone provide a source for the issue of vasoconstriction? A legit source, not anecdotal evidence from a trip report. I've see this claim thrown around frequently but nobody ever posts evidence.


No, we can't provide a "legit" source.  Why?  Because nobody is putting millions of dollars into studies to document the affects of various RCs in human subjects.  The only thing you will EVER have is anecdotal trip reports.  Hell, we still don't know the bioavailability of LSD, and it's been around for considerably longer AND has had government funding to study it's affects. 
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Limetless on April 26, 2012, 10:12 am
As the OP hasn't responded are we assuming he O.D then?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: cerealbox on April 26, 2012, 03:40 pm
You're all forgetting that there wasn't anything in the tabs. I would not have taken 8 hits of NBOME.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: cerealbox on April 26, 2012, 04:20 pm
I will concede that the point that I should have thrown it away and not taken the remainder.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: simplyanon on April 28, 2012, 12:08 am
Tomorrow.

Cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait, cant wait.

I'm gonna take half a tab right now (225ug) for the fuck of it.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: 328502E on April 28, 2012, 12:41 am

I'm gonna take half a tab right now (225ug) for the fuck of it.

Don't.  You won't feel much, and it'll make tomorrow that much less exciting.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: simplyanon on April 28, 2012, 12:42 am

I'm gonna take half a tab right now (225ug) for the fuck of it.

Don't.  You won't feel much, and it'll make tomorrow that much less exciting.

Duly noted. Thanks.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: seuss on April 28, 2012, 03:04 am
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....

or maybe people react differently to it, as is the case with other drugs. i know people who need 5 tabs or even a 10 strip of lsd for a solid trip, while others can get where they want with just 2. biochemical individuality, man, we all have it.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Mixer on April 28, 2012, 11:57 am
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....

The buccal doses you are referring to are for non-complexed 25I-NBOMe. HPBCD complexed tabs taken buccally have a 95% bioavailability! This means it's as potent as vaporizing or snorting it.
I took 1.65mg (3 of kwiktrip's tabs) a week ago. That was INTENSE. It nearly ended in a bad trip because there were too much people and my other tripping friend didn't want others to know we were tripping (WTF MAN!). I usually get nearly back to baseline in 8 hours. After 8 hours, everything was still breathing and morphing. So yeah, be careful when dosing 1000ug+.
(If someone is interested I can post a trip report)
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: seuss on April 28, 2012, 12:32 pm
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....

The buccal doses you are referring to are for non-complexed 25I-NBOMe. HPBCD complexed tabs taken buccally have a 95% bioavailability! This means it's as potent as vaporizing or snorting it.
I took 1.65mg (3 of kwiktrip's tabs) a week ago. That was INTENSE. It nearly ended in a bad trip because there were too much people and my other tripping friend didn't want others to know we were tripping (WTF MAN!). I usually get nearly back to baseline in 8 hours. After 8 hours, everything was still breathing and morphing. So yeah, be careful when dosing 1000ug+.
(If someone is interested I can post a trip report)

go ahead, sounds like an interesting time.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Mixer on April 28, 2012, 01:40 pm
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....

The buccal doses you are referring to are for non-complexed 25I-NBOMe. HPBCD complexed tabs taken buccally have a 95% bioavailability! This means it's as potent as vaporizing or snorting it.
I took 1.65mg (3 of kwiktrip's tabs) a week ago. That was INTENSE. It nearly ended in a bad trip because there were too much people and my other tripping friend didn't want others to know we were tripping (WTF MAN!). I usually get nearly back to baseline in 8 hours. After 8 hours, everything was still breathing and morphing. So yeah, be careful when dosing 1000ug+.
(If someone is interested I can post a trip report)

go ahead, sounds like an interesting time.

Here it is (I had already wrote it):

First of all, some background. Before this experience, I had done 25I-NBOMe (complexed blotter) 2 times, at 500ug and 750ug. Both times I did it at day and I really enjoyed it. I wanted to take it to the next level, so I ordered some 550ug complexed blotters for me and a friend of mine who tripped with me.

We planned to sleep at his house and take the blotters around 1AM, tripping at night. He had never done 25I-NBOMe. We decided that he would take 2 blotters (1100ug) and I would take 3 (1650ug). I wanted to have a mind blowing experience. There were 4 other friends with us.
I arrived at his house and after a while he said he didn’t want the other people to know we were doing 25I. I don’t know why he was like that. So we had to trip in the same room the others were sleeping in. I didn’t really like the idea, but I agreed since I was in his house and I wanted to trip. Big mistake.

We smoked some weed around midnight and we put the blotters between the upper lip and gum. We turned off the lights to enjoy the weed effects. I was feeling good and relaxed. Usually it would take 2 hours for the 25I to come up fully, but after half an hour I was already fucked. It was hard to change the music on my MP3 player and I couldn’t understand what other people were saying. The ceiling was covered with beautiful patterns and fractals. At T+1:00 we turned on the lights to get ready to sleep. What I saw shocked me. Everything was breathing, morphing, the walls were moving. There were fractals all over the carpet and it was rippling. My vision looked like a tunnel. My friends’ faces were melting. It felt like a psychedelic brick to the stomach. I took my earphones off because the music (progressive house/trance/psytrance mixes) was making the experience overwhelming. I wasn’t able to shut down the MP3 player tough. I just couldn’t understand how it worked. I started to feel anxious and I stepped outside to get some air. It calmed me down a bit. I went back into the room and laid down. We turned off the lights so the other people could sleep.

This is when it went crazy. I can’t give a precise timeline, I was traveling in time. My friends were talking before sleeping, but I pretended to sleep because I didn’t want them to ask me something. I was just too fucked up. I went to another world. At first it was cool. I was tripping really hard. But around T+2:00 things got a bit too intense. I was having OBEs which lasted some minutes, then I would fall back in my body and I was sure that I “woke up” in another position (in the morning I discovered I didn’t move at all). My friend were still talking and my closed-eye world started mixing with the real world. It got scary. I couldn’t distinguish between the two. I was sure I was in a sort of psychedelic coma and that I couldn’t wake up until the 25I came down. I thought I was hitting my friends every time I woke up. Their voices were distorted and echoed, and I was convinced that my friend called his parents because they couldn’t stop me, and that they called an ambulance. My friend started playing with a flashlight and I was sure he was a doctor checking me.

I tried to sleep, and I fell in a sort of lucid sleep. I started hearing voices. I thought the voices were people talking in the ambulance. Then I realized that it was nearly impossible that my friends called an ambulance and I calmed down a bit. The voices sounded like a children jingle. I don’t remember them exactly, but I was sure I had already heard them in other dreams. I felt like time was looping. Every time someone said a certain word, I thought I traveled back in time to when they first said it. And it was looping faster, and faster, and faster. Every loop changed my perception of reality. I was convinced that I was leaving this world and that it was ending. Then I realized that I would begin a new life and this calmed me. Time looped even faster, then it stopped. I was trapped into another world and the jingle changed. I saw entities made of rock. I was sure my existence on this planet had ended, and I was waiting my rebirth. Those entities gave me a bad feeling, I wasn’t feeling comfortable with them. Sometimes I would open my eyes hoping to see something familiar, but I couldn’t understand why there where other people sleeping in the room, or who they were, or why I was there. The only light was the moonlight, which was enough thanks to my dilated pupils. I couldn’t move, probably due to sleep paralysis (though in fact I wasn’t sleeping). So I closed my eyes trying to sleep. I saw the same immobile entities, hearing the same jingle, for what felt like hours. My perception of time was extremely messed up, so I think those visions lasted about an hour. Then, finally, I fell asleep.

I woke up around T+6:00. I was coming down. I could understand how the MP3 player that was lying next to me worked and I turned it off (it had been playing all night!). I got up about an hour later, when the others woke up too. Visuals were still intense: moving and breathing surfaces, patterns ,dots and fractals everywhere. I had intense tracers too, and I felt like I was walking in oil. I liked it, and the mind trip was gone. About an hour later I was sort of back to baseline. I was tired because I didn’t sleep, but otherwise I felt ok. I went home and had a good sleep. The next day I felt depressed and apathetic, but this lasted only that day.

This trip wasn’t that bad, I mean that it could have gone much worse. What have I learnt? Set and setting are really important. If you don’t feel comfortable, don’t do it. But this trip made me realize how fake is our everyday reality. Why should things be as we see them?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: telperion on April 30, 2012, 01:34 am
Some folks have extraordinary abilty to metabolize PEAs. There is a specific name for this type of metabolism, but it slips my mind at the moment ( read the forums  ). One needs to figure whether they are in this box or not before consuming 4mg of HPCD complexed Solaris (for instance).  Be patient and start with the reccomended EROWID starting point of 1000 ug  ( 1mg ) and if that doesn't get you over the hump wait four days and try 2mg, and so on until you find your 'sweet spot'.  I have been reading about/experimenting with this RC for about 60 days now, and I can honestly say it is a strong strong molecule.  Here is some information for reference: When I drop LSD, I always do silver crystal liquid if I can find it and never do less than 250ug or more than 600 ug.  Those seem to be pretty elevated doses to people these days, but since I started using psychedelics in 1985, I've never had any bad physical side effects whatsoever.  I usually eat between 4g - 6g of shrooms depending on type ( 2g of tampenesis, or 3g of azurescens ), so use that as a baseline. Obviously, I do not 'over-metabolize PEAs becasue a 2mg dose  (2000ug) of DR's HPBCD complexed tabs ROCKED my noggin' hard, and I don't consider myself a greenhorn psychedelic warrior.  I did experience dehydration and vassoconstriction/hypertendion at 2000ug which I have never had on any other psychedelic before.  I would like to go up to 3mg, but for me the high does not warrant the unnecessary side effects.  Very cool, powerful, forgiving molecule so it is easy to research, just don't get over zealous and try to prove what a badass you are. This is the kind of thing that will get you a visit to the ER, media down on our ass and a public debacle WE DON'T NEED OR WANT.  Use your head for something other than space folks. Be sensible. Be careful. Be smart. Simple simple rules... Come on.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: whynot1234 on April 30, 2012, 09:31 am
i am awaiting my purchase of 25i's and reading trip reports. From what i can see everyone seems to relate it to the amount of lsd they took. Thus i habe no idea how much to take because i have taken 1.5mg of high quality lsd blotters and barely tripped when my friends tripping with me took 200ug and were in another world.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: JellyLegs on April 30, 2012, 09:48 am
What the fuck? All these dose discrepancies are really started to turn me off on the whole NBOMe series. DudeRugs vendor page says he has taken 8mg intranasally which is equal to 13-15mg buccally and had the best trip of his life. I thought 1mg bucally was pretty weak, and 2mg was just ok. 4mg was the best trip I have had so far, and was planning on going higher next time. Yet people here say 1.5mg is the most they've ever seen anyone take, and others say 4mg had them blacking out and in terrible condition?

I'm pretty concerned now. I was planning on buying a sheet of this stuff... Do I just have weak tabs? If I buy from another vendor will I end up in the hospital from taking the same dosage?

4-5mg lethal dose?? Looks like I'll be sticking to LSD from now on....

The buccal doses you are referring to are for non-complexed 25I-NBOMe. HPBCD complexed tabs taken buccally have a 95% bioavailability! This means it's as potent as vaporizing or snorting it.
I took 1.65mg (3 of kwiktrip's tabs) a week ago. That was INTENSE. It nearly ended in a bad trip because there were too much people and my other tripping friend didn't want others to know we were tripping (WTF MAN!). I usually get nearly back to baseline in 8 hours. After 8 hours, everything was still breathing and morphing. So yeah, be careful when dosing 1000ug+.
(If someone is interested I can post a trip report)

go ahead, sounds like an interesting time.

Here it is (I had already wrote it):

First of all, some background. Before this experience, I had done 25I-NBOMe (complexed blotter) 2 times, at 500ug and 750ug. Both times I did it at day and I really enjoyed it. I wanted to take it to the next level, so I ordered some 550ug complexed blotters for me and a friend of mine who tripped with me.

We planned to sleep at his house and take the blotters around 1AM, tripping at night. He had never done 25I-NBOMe. We decided that he would take 2 blotters (1100ug) and I would take 3 (1650ug). I wanted to have a mind blowing experience. There were 4 other friends with us.
I arrived at his house and after a while he said he didn’t want the other people to know we were doing 25I. I don’t know why he was like that. So we had to trip in the same room the others were sleeping in. I didn’t really like the idea, but I agreed since I was in his house and I wanted to trip. Big mistake.

We smoked some weed around midnight and we put the blotters between the upper lip and gum. We turned off the lights to enjoy the weed effects. I was feeling good and relaxed. Usually it would take 2 hours for the 25I to come up fully, but after half an hour I was already fucked. It was hard to change the music on my MP3 player and I couldn’t understand what other people were saying. The ceiling was covered with beautiful patterns and fractals. At T+1:00 we turned on the lights to get ready to sleep. What I saw shocked me. Everything was breathing, morphing, the walls were moving. There were fractals all over the carpet and it was rippling. My vision looked like a tunnel. My friends’ faces were melting. It felt like a psychedelic brick to the stomach. I took my earphones off because the music (progressive house/trance/psytrance mixes) was making the experience overwhelming. I wasn’t able to shut down the MP3 player tough. I just couldn’t understand how it worked. I started to feel anxious and I stepped outside to get some air. It calmed me down a bit. I went back into the room and laid down. We turned off the lights so the other people could sleep.

This is when it went crazy. I can’t give a precise timeline, I was traveling in time. My friends were talking before sleeping, but I pretended to sleep because I didn’t want them to ask me something. I was just too fucked up. I went to another world. At first it was cool. I was tripping really hard. But around T+2:00 things got a bit too intense. I was having OBEs which lasted some minutes, then I would fall back in my body and I was sure that I “woke up” in another position (in the morning I discovered I didn’t move at all). My friend were still talking and my closed-eye world started mixing with the real world. It got scary. I couldn’t distinguish between the two. I was sure I was in a sort of psychedelic coma and that I couldn’t wake up until the 25I came down. I thought I was hitting my friends every time I woke up. Their voices were distorted and echoed, and I was convinced that my friend called his parents because they couldn’t stop me, and that they called an ambulance. My friend started playing with a flashlight and I was sure he was a doctor checking me.

I tried to sleep, and I fell in a sort of lucid sleep. I started hearing voices. I thought the voices were people talking in the ambulance. Then I realized that it was nearly impossible that my friends called an ambulance and I calmed down a bit. The voices sounded like a children jingle. I don’t remember them exactly, but I was sure I had already heard them in other dreams. I felt like time was looping. Every time someone said a certain word, I thought I traveled back in time to when they first said it. And it was looping faster, and faster, and faster. Every loop changed my perception of reality. I was convinced that I was leaving this world and that it was ending. Then I realized that I would begin a new life and this calmed me. Time looped even faster, then it stopped. I was trapped into another world and the jingle changed. I saw entities made of rock. I was sure my existence on this planet had ended, and I was waiting my rebirth. Those entities gave me a bad feeling, I wasn’t feeling comfortable with them. Sometimes I would open my eyes hoping to see something familiar, but I couldn’t understand why there where other people sleeping in the room, or who they were, or why I was there. The only light was the moonlight, which was enough thanks to my dilated pupils. I couldn’t move, probably due to sleep paralysis (though in fact I wasn’t sleeping). So I closed my eyes trying to sleep. I saw the same immobile entities, hearing the same jingle, for what felt like hours. My perception of time was extremely messed up, so I think those visions lasted about an hour. Then, finally, I fell asleep.

I woke up around T+6:00. I was coming down. I could understand how the MP3 player that was lying next to me worked and I turned it off (it had been playing all night!). I got up about an hour later, when the others woke up too. Visuals were still intense: moving and breathing surfaces, patterns ,dots and fractals everywhere. I had intense tracers too, and I felt like I was walking in oil. I liked it, and the mind trip was gone. About an hour later I was sort of back to baseline. I was tired because I didn’t sleep, but otherwise I felt ok. I went home and had a good sleep. The next day I felt depressed and apathetic, but this lasted only that day.

This trip wasn’t that bad, I mean that it could have gone much worse. What have I learnt? Set and setting are really important. If you don’t feel comfortable, don’t do it. But this trip made me realize how fake is our everyday reality. Why should things be as we see them?

I've read this on erowid before :)
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: JellyLegs on April 30, 2012, 09:50 am
i am awaiting my purchase of 25i's and reading trip reports. From what i can see everyone seems to relate it to the amount of lsd they took. Thus i habe no idea how much to take because i have taken 1.5mg of high quality lsd blotters and barely tripped when my friends tripping with me took 200ug and were in another world.

1500ug of LSD?
C'mon now...
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: whynot1234 on April 30, 2012, 10:04 am
i am awaiting my purchase of 25i's and reading trip reports. From what i can see everyone seems to relate it to the amount of lsd they took. Thus i habe no idea how much to take because i have taken 1.5mg of high quality lsd blotters and barely tripped when my friends tripping with me took 200ug and were in another world.

1500ug of LSD?
C'mon now...
  not a joke but i have to admit i have been using lsd quite frequently for the past 6 years and weigh 250 but yeah
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: JellyLegs on April 30, 2012, 11:06 am
Woah
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Just4Drugs2122 on April 30, 2012, 11:56 am
yep i entirely misjudged this shit... i put 4 1000mgs tabs in my mouth and then 3....... its almost too much....
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Mixer on April 30, 2012, 12:36 pm
yep i entirely misjudged this shit... i put 4 1000mgs tabs in my mouth and then 3....... its almost too much....

You took 7mg and it's "almost too much"? Woah...
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: JellyLegs on April 30, 2012, 12:59 pm
yep i entirely misjudged this shit... i put 4 1000mgs tabs in my mouth and then 3....... its almost too much....

You took 7mg and it's "almost too much"? Woah...

4mg, I'd say that's the maximum that anyone should really go.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Mixer on April 30, 2012, 02:29 pm
I've read this on erowid before :)

I hadn't noticed they had already published it LOL.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: JellyLegs on May 01, 2012, 06:03 am
So many reports I read online I know are SR users, I had a feeling just by reading your wirting that you sent that too :)
I like the report you wrote here better though.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Just4Drugs2122 on May 07, 2012, 08:01 am
yep i entirely misjudged this shit... i put 4 1000mgs tabs in my mouth and then 3....... its almost too much....

You took 7mg and it's "almost too much"? Woah...

What do you mean by 'Woah'? Lol... All the acid tabs i've had no where near had the effect I desired so since I had fifty 25i tabs in my possession I thought I'd make the most of having it and make sure that I'd have a proper trip. 
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trippyskies on May 07, 2012, 01:20 pm
so...  When I get mine, I'm throwing a 25i party.  Everyone is experienced in tripping (though, one guy is prone to violent rages, lol, should be fun)  I'm getting the 500 complexed, figure it's safer.

Should we all take two?  one?  what? 

Also, have you fellas tried xanax to come down/mellow you out? I've been reading that it helps.  I'll keep some anti histamines on hand for breathing issues.

(god, I hope tht one guy doens't pee his pants to keep the world from blowing up like he did on lsd.(which probably wasn't lsd)
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on May 07, 2012, 02:10 pm
so...  When I get mine, I'm throwing a 25i party.  Everyone is experienced in tripping (though, one guy is prone to violent rages, lol, should be fun)  I'm getting the 500 complexed, figure it's safer.

Should we all take two?  one?  what? 

Also, have you fellas tried xanax to come down/mellow you out? I've been reading that it helps.  I'll keep some anti histamines on hand for breathing issues.

(god, I hope tht one guy doens't pee his pants to keep the world from blowing up like he did on lsd.(which probably wasn't lsd)
It's hard to answer your question on dosage because everyone's mileage varies. What vendor are you planing on using? I would start with 1 tab for everyone and progress from there. I wouldn't go over 3 tabs, but that's just because of not being able to breathe. I hate asthma lol.

Xanax is amazing for the comedown. I have noticed that having xanax on hand just improves my buzz by knowing i can take one if it gets too much. I guess it's the peace of mind of knowing you have it.

I personally always take an anti histamine before tripping of any substance that acts heavily on serotonin which is most psychedelics.

Your comment on the dude pissing his pants made my mello yellow come out my nose lol. Good times on these forums good times. Also, with the person is prone to get violent. I highly recommend only having people around that this person feels very comfortable wth being around.

You should try to get most of the people involved to write at least a two paragraph summary on their trip. I think it would be interesting. Keep us updated. :D
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Prawl42 on May 07, 2012, 02:23 pm
start with 1mg and work your way up,

Your comment on the dude pissing his pants made my mello yellow come out my nose lol. Good times on these forums good times.

^^ You gotta love the mix of people on this forum, can never be bored with the amount of variety here.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Mixer on May 07, 2012, 04:13 pm
yep i entirely misjudged this shit... i put 4 1000mgs tabs in my mouth and then 3....... its almost too much....

You took 7mg and it's "almost too much"? Woah...

What do you mean by 'Woah'? Lol... All the acid tabs i've had no where near had the effect I desired so since I had fifty 25i tabs in my possession I thought I'd make the most of having it and make sure that I'd have a proper trip.

I was joking, I meant that 4mg would have been waaaay too much for me, not just "almost too much" lol ;)
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trippyskies on May 09, 2012, 07:44 am
Xanax is amazing for the comedown. I have noticed that having xanax on hand just improves my buzz by knowing i can take one if it gets too much. I guess it's the peace of mind of knowing you have it.

I personally always take an anti histamine before tripping of any substance that acts heavily on serotonin which is most psychedelics.


Thanks for replying Sniper!

Wow, I love teh idea that just having the xanax around might add a calming effect because we might feel that there is an escape if it gets way too intense.

I really have to research the effects of anti histamines and psychedelics.  I'm thinking this is something that I must know about.

The violent guy might not be able to be there because of work, this might be a good thing.


And I'll make sure to try an get everyone to write a little paragraph about it.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Amphetamine on May 09, 2012, 12:17 pm
took a few and next thing I know I had taken 4 of DudeRugs 1mg tabs


Hmmm that's strange, the most tabs i have taken on a night were 7.5 (spread through out the night) and the most at once were 5 at and i had a quite nice trip but i didn't trip hard, however a few weeks before i took 4 at once in another setting with Ketamine and had a beautiful trip and it really showed her power, i couldn't tell the difference between acid and 25i-NBOMe.

When i took 5 at once with someone else (an unexperienced tripper he took 5 too)  he lost his mind and freaked the fuck out, and injured himself doing something stupid.

I don't think duderugs his tabs are 1000µg or it's just between my ears, i'd like to dose more than this but reading the quote above my post got me thinking
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on May 09, 2012, 12:33 pm
took a few and next thing I know I had taken 4 of DudeRugs 1mg tabs


Hmmm that's strange, the most tabs i have taken on a night were 7.5 (spread through out the night) and the most at once were 5 at and i had a quite nice trip but i didn't trip hard, however a few weeks before i took 4 at once in another setting with Ketamine and had a beautiful trip and it really showed her power, i couldn't tell the difference between acid and 25i-NBOMe.

When i took 5 at once with someone else (an unexperienced tripper he took 5 too)  he lost his mind and freaked the fuck out, and injured himself doing something stupid.

I don't think duderugs his tabs are 1000µg or it's just between my ears, i'd like to dose more than this but reading the quote above my post got me thinking
Also, i noticed something about 25I-NBOME is tolerance builds like a bitch. One of the most quickest tolerance building substances i think i have ever used to be honest. So just keep that in mind. There's really no way to tell if duderugs tabs are 1mg each. I guess it's just something you have to take his word on. It's kinda like buying x pills.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Gibbroni on May 09, 2012, 12:57 pm
Hey guys, thought this would be a good thread for my query.
 
So today I received around 30+ tabs from Duderugs.  I'm excited to try this substance, but I am determined to wait until the right circumstances.  I am experienced with MDMA, 2cb and cannabis. I've tripped on acid before, twice, however I believe they were threshold doses, didn't really get much in the way of visuals etc. For me 2cb has been far more visual and fun than the "acid" I have dosed.  That said, I am quite confident I will be able to handle myself if a trip starts going in the wrong direction (though as you can see, I haven't had extensive experience with the deeper psychs). I have been doing 2cb a little too much lately (about 6 times in the last 2 months), the first few were great, the last few have really been lacking on the visuals; so i'm assuming, tolerance?
With this in mind, if I was to try the 25i in the next month (abstaining from other phenethylamine use of course), will tolerance from 2cb come into play?

 I wan't my first time to be a STRONG psychedelic experience, but NOT TOO STRONG. "STRONG" is subjective of course, I guess I want some mega cool visuals, and cool effects to some experimental beat-driven music....without feeling body load so much, or anxiety.

To cut to the chase, as a noob, I was thinking about dosing 2 Duderugs tabs straight up. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: 12345 on May 09, 2012, 01:02 pm
took a few and next thing I know I had taken 4 of DudeRugs 1mg tabs


Hmmm that's strange, the most tabs i have taken on a night were 7.5 (spread through out the night) and the most at once were 5 at and i had a quite nice trip but i didn't trip hard, however a few weeks before i took 4 at once in another setting with Ketamine and had a beautiful trip and it really showed her power, i couldn't tell the difference between acid and 25i-NBOMe.

When i took 5 at once with someone else (an unexperienced tripper he took 5 too)  he lost his mind and freaked the fuck out, and injured himself doing something stupid.

I don't think duderugs his tabs are 1000µg or it's just between my ears, i'd like to dose more than this but reading the quote above my post got me thinking


You couldnt tell the difference between acid and 25i-NBOMe? Can you explain why?
Same patterns of optic? same body load? tast e of blotter?

Looks loke I have to try them .... know knows perhaps I never had the real deal.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on May 09, 2012, 01:05 pm
Hey guys, thought this would be a good thread for my query.
 
So today I received around 30+ tabs from Duderugs.  I'm excited to try this substance, but I am determined to wait until the right circumstances.  I am experienced with MDMA, 2cb and cannabis. I've tripped on acid before, twice, however I believe they were threshold doses, didn't really get much in the way of visuals etc. For me 2cb has been far more visual and fun than the "acid" I have dosed.  That said, I am quite confident I will be able to handle myself if a trip starts going in the wrong direction (though as you can see, I haven't had extensive experience with the deeper psychs). I have been doing 2cb a little too much lately (about 6 times in the last 2 months), the first few were great, the last few have really been lacking on the visuals; so i'm assuming, tolerance?
With this in mind, if I was to try the 25i in the next month (abstaining from other phenethylamine use of course), will tolerance from 2cb come into play?

 I wan't my first time to be a STRONG psychedelic experience, but NOT TOO STRONG. "STRONG" is subjective of course, I guess I want some mega cool visuals, and cool effects to some experimental beat-driven music....without feeling body load so much, or anxiety.

To cut to the chase, as a noob, I was thinking about dosing 2 Duderugs tabs straight up. What do you guys think?

You taking tabs by mouth or nasally? I think you could handle two tabs. The first time i did one tab in my mouth, it was a peaceful trip. Nothing intense, some good visuals. Then i did another tab nasally and got some sick visuals. I watched all the transporter movies. I had a really good time.

I think you'll be fine off two tabs for your first time in the mouth but i don't know if you should do two tabs nasally. But, that's up to you.  Please don't forget to post back your trip report. :)
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Gibbroni on May 09, 2012, 01:56 pm
Thanks for the advice Sniper. I was going to follow Duderugs guidelines and put two tabs on my upper gum for 45 mins. I have heard of dosing up the nose though, on some other drug forums. Would you say it's undoubtedly stronger? Also, how far up the nose are we talking? Like further than you'd go if you were to "give it a cleanout" with you finger? lol  If you have to go further than that into the narrower section of the nose, how would you make sure you can actually extract the tab when you're done?  I don't want ego death or anything, but I don't want to have to use any willpower to make visuals happen etc.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on May 09, 2012, 02:56 pm
Thanks for the advice Sniper. I was going to follow Duderugs guidelines and put two tabs on my upper gum for 45 mins. I have heard of dosing up the nose though, on some other drug forums. Would you say it's undoubtedly stronger? Also, how far up the nose are we talking? Like further than you'd go if you were to "give it a cleanout" with you finger? lol  If you have to go further than that into the narrower section of the nose, how would you make sure you can actually extract the tab when you're done?  I don't want ego death or anything, but I don't want to have to use any willpower to make visuals happen etc.

I found it to be a lot stronger. Not that far up your nose, just stick it on the inside and it should stick. I also don't get as bad of nausea if i put it in my nose. I don't think you'll experience ego death from 25I. Out of body in higher doses though. The only drug i have ever experienced ego death off of was LSD. Which i cured by snorting some meth after i came down off the LSD. Not the smartest idea... But, it worked lol.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Gibbroni on May 09, 2012, 04:07 pm
I think it's settled then! I shall do two tabs, taken buccally to aim for a strong but not overpowering experience (the thought of OOB experience scares me a bit, I could probably manage it but would like to avoid such things at this stage).  Then i'll try the intranasal dosing in the future!
thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: sniper123 on May 09, 2012, 04:14 pm
I think it's settled then! I shall do two tabs, taken buccally to aim for a strong but not overpowering experience (the thought of OOB experience scares me a bit, I could probably manage it but would like to avoid such things at this stage).  Then i'll try the intranasal dosing in the future!
thanks for the advice!
Ok cool, can't wait to hear what you think of it.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Psytanium on May 09, 2012, 05:41 pm
Wondering if this campound have a scale of purity. I have ordered from duderugs and kwiktrip.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Potato on May 09, 2012, 06:04 pm
Sort of topic and I apologize, but I how do you guys store your 25i? do the same general rules involving lsd tab storage apply to 25i tabs, or is there extra steps to take to ensure the tabs remain potent.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: happyroller1234 on May 09, 2012, 06:08 pm
Has anyone else had a tantric orgasm on this stuff?  8)  Sex will never be the same after that!
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Serpen187 on May 10, 2012, 12:14 pm
I found the first time I tried one, I had placed it under my tounge. But I was too chippy on mephadrone that I ended up swallowing it before I had absorbed the goodness.

Second time after some research I placed it between my gum and upper lip by the join, until the blotter broke up. 20min later major euforical waves constantly for the next 6 hours! With each wave I did notice a rapid rise in body temp and lots of sweat. I was consuming some beer to smooth out the peaks and I did notice some minor chest discomfort.

Third time, when combined with methylone, body temp rolled up and down quite alot. I was out at the time, so I bought some paracetamol (Tylanol), and 2 tablets of this regulated my temp and made the experience all round enjoyable.

To sum up, I think that if you find your body temp getting high, its important for harm reduction to at least try 2 tablets of paracetamol (tylanol in the us) to bring it down, as most ED in hospitals will do this straight away anyway.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Trippyskies on May 10, 2012, 09:46 pm
OMFG you guys are killing me with information overload...

So... this is a collection of advice I've recieved so far

Tylenol - for lowering body temps
Antihistamines - reducing anxiety?
Benzos - Reducing Anxieties
crack cocaine and meth -reducing paranoia

Am I correct on this so far?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: awesome1126 on May 10, 2012, 09:47 pm
Has anyone else had a tantric orgasm on this stuff?  8)  Sex will never be the same after that!

THIS =D

1mg 25i was awesome.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: telperion on May 11, 2012, 01:35 pm
Tolerance acceleration is very speedy with this lil' guy. If you have taken 2mg or more during the past 7 days, it is probably a good standard to space out your next dose with at least 4-6days between every 2mg  of Solaris you have consumed over a period of time. I've noticed that as I have utilized this scale in my approach to researching this compound, as I stack on further dosage amount the effectiveness of the 'breaks' diminish unless more time is added to the break period. This chemical is some fairly heavy body load as well, so extended recreational use is not advised coming from my seat. From my experience it seems to be more of a social empathogen with visuals and the psychedelic amperage somewhat akin to MDMA with the sensual amplification. Dehydration, anxiety on comeup and vasoconstriction are some of the physical side effects. Neat molecule overall, I would say this could be a seasonal experience possibly. Once a quarter on the solstice/equinox dates to cleanse the heart. Not sdo much of a deep mind probe psychedelic as it is 'heart enriching'. Sorry, those are the best word I can select for the feeling. I've only researched it 8 times now. Maybe I can find a better description later.
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: Serpen187 on May 11, 2012, 05:14 pm
OMFG you guys are killing me with information overload...

So... this is a collection of advice I've recieved so far

Tylenol - for lowering body temps
Antihistamines - reducing anxiety?
Benzos - Reducing Anxieties
crack cocaine and meth -reducing paranoia

Am I correct on this so far?

From my research,

benzos usded for controlling fitting due to high body temp. Thus the two used for cocain overdose are valum (fitting/convulsions and common paracetamol (tylanol) to reduce body temp 
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: l1llykins on May 11, 2012, 06:15 pm
Wow, can't believe I never thought of using tylenol ... is advil ok too (ibuprofen)?
Title: Re: First time using NBOME
Post by: JellyLegs on May 12, 2012, 04:44 am
I felt like a beast when I orgasmed.