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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Dutch_moroccan on November 17, 2012, 02:46 am
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There is a disparity in all things in the world, dividing the haves from the have nots. It doesn't matter whether this is in the realm of the legal system, political influence, finance or criminal activity. Those in places of power hold onto it through networks. They realize that by agreeing to support one another they strengthen their own individual positions and keep others from getting in and taking a slice of what they've already stolen.
I don't blame them for this at all. But I think there's much to be learned. Most of us don't have the ready liquid cash to outsource our problems away or further amass personal fortunes. But what we can do is provide a latticework for ourselves.
To this end, I propose a criminal enterprise for the rest of us. The Gentlemen's Agreement (not that it's open only to men, I just liked the sound of it) is a concept in which people with needs and skills would be able to find one another.
Maybe it's the need of an alibi, a dead drop, money laundering, hacking, forging or counterfeiting, muscle, guns, black market sourcing, buying or selling, storage, any etc. you can think of, really, the Agreement would be a common way to organize and find support beyond any of our individual needs, playing on various strengths.
I've been thinking about the concept for a while, but how would such a thing be set up? I'd be interested to hear ideas.
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What you're looking for is an underground barter economy. Usually the barter is money for services, but sometimes, they can lead to other things.
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Like what?
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I don´t think he means that. I think the idea is more along the lines of favor bank maby... Today you help me, but always remember the favor because one day I will call on it. Example, you got your stash robbed, you call me to get it back, I do so. 4 months later I´m being questioned by police and need you to say I was with you on a certain night. You say I was, favor re-payed, and in the process we trust each other a bit more.. The only reason I don´t think this would work here is because everyone needs/wants to remain anonymous, that severely restricts what we can do for one another.
ACE
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I don´t think he means that. I think the idea is more along the lines of favor bank maby... Today you help me, but always remember the favor because one day I will call on it. Example, you got your stash robbed, you call me to get it back, I do so. 4 months later I´m being questioned by police and need you to say I was with you on a certain night. You say I was, favor re-payed, and in the process we trust each other a bit more.. The only reason I don´t think this would work here is because everyone needs/wants to remain anonymous, that severely restricts what we can do for one another.
ACE
i agree - if u want that join a mafia. there are several.
if ur neighbor needs help - help them and ask for nothing..
if u dont like that idea or its abhorrent to u: man up, take care of ur own shit and keep ur mouth shut!
Advise to any free person:
if someone comes to arrest u or steal from u your rights kill them.
if u succeed and live - kill the politician that sent them for there are too few of them and they will' soon disappear and we will truly by free.
even if u dont succeed u will have made it easyr for the next poor shlub!!!
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We should just fucking nuke the world already.
The US already got 18 Ohio class submarines in the Pacific theatre, each with 24 Trident II ICBMs that carry 8 MIRV W76 warheads on em (100kt each). Just fucking carpet bomb the planet and let's be done with it.
Er, sorry, i'm having a bit of a bad day :P
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Interesting. I'm listening.
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There's this thing called the Darknet where you can get anything you want... oh wait a minute we're there already!
Start at the HiddenWiki and work your way into soem forums and boards and you may just find what you're looking for.
Personally when I saw it though I felt like I didn't belong.
I just want the freedom to ingest drugs, shoot guns and blow shit up... I'm a simple man with simple pleasures
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This would be the exact kind of society we would be living in. All men being equal with their specific skills being essential. Everybody needs somebody. Where would we be without the guy who cleans the street? Or the guy who manages that guy? Probably knee deep in shit, but who's job is more important? Both are needed to complete the task, but one is useless without the other.
Probably not the greatest analogy but you get my picture? Everyone has something that someone else needs or wants and vice verca. I have an inherent dislike of 'MONEY', I dont even think its a real thing!!LOL. I only want it because i am forced to need it. But i would gladly swap one of my possessions for one of someones.
I think what the OP is suggesting would be my utopia, and surely where the human race must look or the world may well end up nuked as we squabble over depleting resources.
Right now there is just too much greed and selfishness in the world for it to work logistically, but hopefully one day.
But enough philosophy and semantics for one day :-X
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This would be the exact kind of society we would be living in. All men being equal with their specific skills being essential. Everybody needs somebody. Where would we be without the guy who cleans the street? Or the guy who manages that guy? Probably knee deep in shit, but who's job is more important? Both are needed to complete the task, but one is useless without the other.
Probably not the greatest analogy but you get my picture? Everyone has something that someone else needs or wants and vice verca. I have an inherent dislike of 'MONEY', I dont even think its a real thing!!LOL. I only want it because i am forced to need it. But i would gladly swap one of my possessions for one of someones.
I think what the OP is suggesting would be my utopia, and surely where the human race must look or the world may well end up nuked as we squabble over depleting resources.
Right now there is just too much greed and selfishness in the world for it to work logistically, but hopefully one day.
But enough philosophy and semantics for one day :-X
I know a place exactly like you suggest! it´s called Beneficio and its in the Alpujjaras moiuntains in southern spain. [edit]
http://www.google.es/search?q=alpujarras&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=GPuoULCtL4aIhQeo4ICQDw&sqi=2&ved=0CAQQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=521
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Look selling drugs on SR is fun and so but i want to think big
you can't spend your life with small stuff because when you are
a big group with everybody has his own craft you can move
like people in every country with safe houses every guy needs a skill
computer hackers,smugglers,assassins, Thief's, extortion. and much more
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I am currently a traveler seeking peace & places without bloodshed & oppression. Spain is on my map of places to live; I want to go to the Himalayas as well. I aim to be a Silk Road Tycoon. Travel, Greet, Plan & Offload Routine. Hooking the world up with the world's resources; free from governments evils. Cheers everyone; I'm off to go smoke ganja with my newly antiquated South African friends.
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No way, people are gonna meet you IRL. Thats why we have SR.
You are thinking of a mafia, mob, or a crime syndicate.
Good thought though.
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Look selling drugs on SR is fun and so but i want to think big
you can't spend your life with small stuff because when you are
a big group with everybody has his own craft you can move
like people in every country with safe houses every guy needs a skill
computer hackers,smugglers,assassins, Thief's, extortion. and much more
I have my trade and I´m happy with it, its just not something I can do from the middle of nowhere. neither are any of the things you mention. I think we have different ideas. You want to own the world. I simply want to be happy in it. I want enough money to ensure a happy rest of my life. Nothing more. I want to live amongst friendly people with no hassle. The greedyer you get the more complex you´re life becomes.
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Come on money to life happy? like what? 50.000? 100.000?
it isn't enough i blow up ATM's and i find 300.000 in it (its very easy)
I want Millions so i can life luxe
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Come on money to life happy? like what? 50.000? 100.000?
it isn't enough i blow up ATM's and i find 300.000 in it (its very easy)
I want Millions so i can life luxe
I wanna be rich as well.
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We all want to be millionaires. But remember well that there is little rest for the big criminals. The bigger of a player you are, the more heat you will attract. Very few criminals - not counting bankers and politicians - got away with millions and lived happily ever after.
Many small time criminals have low intellect. If you are smart and security conscious, you can fly under the radar, and make some nice money on the side. You won't get super rich but you'll live comfortably.
Be safe and don't be greedy.
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Thats true