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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: chodethumper on May 13, 2012, 05:46 pm
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Looking at 50BTC blow, deciding between Fanny's 2.5 and TheStore's 2.0. Already gna cop some H from Fanny. Shipping to US. What is my best option? Looking for at most 12 days from order to receipt.
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Well Ill tell you what, I thought the stores product was gonna be gonna but I wasnt happy with it at all. These are my post about it after I ordered. Im sorry I know the first message is super long and written in "train of thought style" but here it is.
OK folks please listen up.....Iv been doing cocaine for over 20 yrs myself.And have yet to receive more than a hit or two out of each gram of actual cocaine bought here on SR. Less than 10-20% actual cocaine in the coke. Now Iv only bought from two vendors and they were domestic. Purp13 and TheStore .... I haven't snorted any in over 5 yr because I don't enjoy that, I'm a smoker and have been smoking it for a long time. Im new to SR but I'm seeing what is truly available here. I have to date purchased from two suppliers domestically and no one overseas yet. My first order was with Purp13...This guy is a great guy but the quality was not there at all. (he's sending samples from his new supplier but i am scared of all domestic cocaine right now.) I put purp13s coke in my cooker and fired it down. First to jump up was actually cocaine though only a super tiny hit. I stopped right there, collected, dried and smoked the oil. Clean taste, no "caines" oiled into the mix, perfect....kept on firing down and up comes the heavier compounds that oil like cocaine but are not cocaine and are being used as cuts. I call them the "caines" because to the best of my knowledge it is a mixture of anesthetic compounds close to cocaine that our being used that will oil up upon basifying ....benzocaine, procaine, lidocaine, prilocaine, Novocaine, or any one of the many new research compound "caines" available to anyone with the right URL.. Slow and careful cooking and you can separate the cocaine from these nasty oils. Cocaine basifys immediately and will raise as an oil first and foremost...The other "caines" are heavier in there nature and take more heat to cause the basification and raise....They are typically darker in color and come out with a grey tint. Fast cooking can cause your cocaine oil to lock in with these oils (it wont want to though and will try to stay separate) though after awhile working with these oils you will be able to tell (by your senses) ratios of possible mixtures of cuts or you will know why you have two or more oil types in your cook. One oil threaded on the top of the water like lilly pads(cocaine) and more than likely globular chunks of "caines" sitting locked together floating towards the top but not top sitting like the cocaine (will depend on your suppliers choice of "caine" cut ratios) So I kept on cooking because in Purp13's case there wasn't much "caine" oils to bypass....But strangely, at the ass end of the cook, I get this oil that wont raise in the amount of water that left its so heavy ....scoop it, collect it,,,dry it out...smoked it....gross...it doesn't burn good and ruins my pipe....taste strangely like lavender or floral type taste (iv never seen this b4 until I found it again in THESTORE's coke a couple days later...All in all I got one good hit of cocaine out of ThePurp13's cocaine....OK so I got THESTORES "fish-scale" in the other day when I got back from vacation....I decided that I wasn't gonna let my chemistry skills go to waste this time so I went and got some acetone. Used Anhydrous Magnesium Sulfate to remove the water content and did an anhydrous acetone wash on this "fish-scale"...The acetone went to evaporate on glass while I took the remaining super crystals to fully dry out any remaining acetone before my cook. I knew that in my acetone was a fully dissolved compound that was now invisible, but i also brought over a talcum looking powder that didn't fully dissolve into the acetone but wanted to separate from the remaining insoluble crystals. I knew that what remained in my shot glass would be water soluble, shardy and shinny but that I also would have very very small amounts of this talcum looking powder that got left behind from the acetone wash (you never get 100% of the cut out face it). The crystals in the shot glass were removed, tossed in my cleaned cooker, basified and dried out. The basification didn't go well...TheStores cocaine had much more "caines" then I had seen in Purp13s, and even more than I had ever seen locally. I will say though, that the mixture of "caines" was done so ingenuously better than I had ever seen before . It was closer to color of really cocaine, When smoked my chest didn't totally feel like it wanted to cave in (which is what i get from smoking local "caine" mixes..not any more though Im done with local) though it didn't get me high and was unpleasant all around. There was some actual cocaine that raised off the top first just as what happen in Purp13s cook. It was collected, dried, and smoked ...tasty good. And just as in the first cook...towards the end of the cook I collected the floral tasting oil again...crazy I had never seen this stuff locally or ever yet....smoked it again and it just hurt my chest like the other stuff though....no good. So I went over to the acetone plate and put my nose to it....The stench 0f cocaine was huge!! I got mind-boggled for a second and said " Is cocaine soluble in acetone and I had it backward? Is this all the coke right here???" I took out my razor blade and started to collect...It scrapped up as a resinous oil that was yellow in nature...Very very yellow, too yellow...It smelled horribly like cocaine...I flattened it, yes this oil allowed me to flatten it like puddy. I cut a chunk off and smoked it....It didn't even smoke it burned...gross...screwed up another pipe...I took this oil and tried to basify it. Thought maybe that would help it burn right...It didn't want to lock up well but finally did...smoked it...gross...I have no idea what this stuff is...I have only came across it once before locally and it didn't act like this yellow stuff did, probably because during the acetone wash , the talcum type compound as well as probably more got mixed in, causing this yellow compound to act more resinous and different from when I first saw this stuff (an anhydrous isopropanol wash might have seperated the talcum stuff and caused for a better smoke but it wasnt cocaine anyway trust me.) ....All in all. I got about two and half hits of ACTUAL COCAINE out of TheStores Cocaine.All in all, I got about one hit of ACTUAL COCAINE out of Purp13's Cocaine. It should be noted though, due to TheStores suppliers unique way of imitating cocaine, it was much harder to discern what I was doing and I had to smoke some gross stuff to be bringing this information to the table. Though Im not happy with Purps product at all either and dont no what to say about both......bcpltd is probably who id try domestically next..only because hes offering a .1g deal...I'm to broke to keep trying to figure out where the cocaine is really at. My gut is telling me go back to the molly because the cocaine just fucking sucks nowadays. I really thought all this over before I typed it out because Im not the type of person to mess with anyone's business...exceptionally if I feel there's a chance I don't no what Im talking about, and thats not the case this time Im sorry guys. It should be noted beyond quality, both vendors iv dealt with on SR have been nice , with good communication and good packaging.....PM me with any questions concerning this....or if anyone trust my judgement and chemistry. Id be welcome to piece apart your product and review it...I could of took the chemistry a lot further than I did here. All I'm looking to do is get the cocaine game right again, like the MDMA game has stayed. Thanks, EternalCausation
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Re: Hardly no Cocaine in The Cocaine on SR yet
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 08:50 PM »
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I honestly tried hard to read that. There's some real diamond information in there but damn it's making my head swirl.
Basically you bought coke off 2 vendors.
The first one (Purp13) you cooked up to smoke it, and saw evidence of severe adulteration. Result: one good hit out of the score, though you don't say how much you bought.
The second one (TheStore) you did an acetone wash, and again saw evidence of severe adulteration. Result: 2.5 hits but you don't say how much you bought.
Both contained various ~caine adulterants and a strange floral-smelling adulterant you haven't come across before. TheStore's coke contained an unusual set of ~caine adulterants which mimicked the real thing better than most.
Did I miss anything?
You've made me worry abut buying off here now. I was seriously thinking about getting some cocaine - it's been years since I had some. Not sure if I will now. I'm based in the UK by the way, so my choice of vendors is going to be different to yours.
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Re: Hardly no Cocaine in The Cocaine on SR yet
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 09:08 PM »
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Ya you pretty much got it. I bought 1gram from each supplier.
Now all further weights are guesses by working sizes, I did not weigh the separated portions
TheStore upon acetone wash had approx 20-25% of the one gram removed with an acetone wash. The 70-75 percentage crystals were cooked and all of the 70-75 crystals oiled. Of all the 70-75 % oil, about 30% was cocaine. So I guessed that about 15-20% of the total weight was cocaine crystals.
Purp13 upon cooking, 20-25 percentage of the one gram oiled up. Of this 25%, half or more was cocaine. So I guessed 10-15%
More adulterants that oil, harder the cleaning goes.
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Quote from: fishscale on May 08, 2012, 01:49 PM
"" theres definitely yayo on SR. its not 100% cocaine HCL, but neither is what u get on the street. some of its good, some of its stepped on like pavement, but some people have really good stuff. god of all is excellent (GOA is his abbrev.) and his overall quality/shipping is awesome, move it nice ive heard is great (MIN), and there were others too. doing your own wash/extraction and basification to turn it into crack is not exactly the best way to judge quality. try a line instead, or if u gotta wash it, wash it and try a line. maybe its the cooking man? just sayin """
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Actually washing it and basification is the best way to judge quality. Most cocaine is a mixture of talcum type cuts with a mix of crystals. The crystals contain the cocaine but are none guaranteed to be all cocaine. Cocaine makes its way into the country as a base oil. Cocaine HCL is converted most all of the time here domestically. Depending upon the quality of conversion will depend upon weather any base oil cocaine is present in my soft. If there is oil based cocaine leftover in my cocaine it will be removed in my acetone wash. Most cocaine (soft) contains mostly Cocaine HCL with possibly miniscule amount of cocaine base. My washes usually remove water insoluble compounds and cuts. If I were to take the crystals leftover from my acetone wash and just snort them, then I will be still snorting cut, just crystalline cut that will oil up like cocaine. Pretty much the cut that makes snorter, but more so smokers, think there's more cocaine there will be crystalline. Also, taste for me is a much better way of discernment then up the nose. So, I use the fact that these crystals act different as oils , they act the same as crystals and I cant separate them. As oils, I can use color, weight and miscibility to tell which of these previous crystals are not cocaine. Plus recrystallization of freebase cocaine and "caine" family compounds out of Isopropanol will cause the "caine" family compounds to create needle type structures, while freebase cocaine will create monolithic plating. Plus man, once Iv separated these oils from each other. I can always take what cocaine I do find and bring it make to Cocaine HCL using dilute hydrochloric acid. This is the best why of quality judgement I had came up with after years of doing it. And believe me, Its been about my health. These "caine" mixtures have caused my nervous system around my heart to hurt sometimes, I don't know I got white coat syndrome, I hate going to the doctors.
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Rumor mill / Re: Cocaine Vendors List and Reviews
« Message by White Light on May 08, 2012, 01:34 PM \
Quote from: eternalcausation on May 07, 2012, 04:33 PM
This MSG IS THE SAME MSG AS THE THREAD STARTED : Hardly No Cocaine In The Cocaine On SR Yet...................
Hi,
I just read this first sentence, sorry but I can't read your entire post, for me it's absolutely unreadable !
It seems you just tried 2 sellers, is it right ? Do you think it's enough to judge the quality of coke you can find on SR ? I don't understand how you can draw this kind of conclusion and pretend to any scientific credibility…
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Rumor mill / Re: Cocaine Vendors List and Reviews
« Message by hunter.s.thompson on May 10, 2012, 07:50 AM »
No offense, but I bought 2 grams off of The Store and it was some of the best coke I've tried in a long time, and I consider myself a aficionado. I honestly suspect that you are trying to defame dealers on this site so you can try to take some of their business. I have only tried TS's coke, so I can't vouch for any of the other dealer's stuff you are saying is low quality, but I have been fortunate enough to find only the best quality from TS so I call bullshit.
So whatever, doesnt matter to much to me, just trying to learn as much as a can teach here...thank god for copy & paste...sorry for the long messagge
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thx for your feedback EC
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I have gotten FH heroin not C, so dont know about that, allthough the heroin was good saw the coke could be as well. TheStore has some good product, not the best I have ever had but like an 8/10. For the price I would go with vendor Wright got me a gram just as good as TheStore for about 60% of the price. I had two transactions with Wright one went perfect and the other just didnt pan out for some reason or another, I personally dont know. But you know what. I got a 100% refund even after I FE because I had full faith since I got other order quickly. For whatever reason never came(think my mailman might be a junky,too,i dunno) but like I said Wright went above and beyond and I would order from him again, without thinking twice. For my money go with Wright, product just as good as everyone else's save MIN or GOA, but hell its half the dam price and about 80% as good as the best on SR.