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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: Joey Terrifying on March 03, 2013, 07:38 pm

Title: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 03, 2013, 07:38 pm
I saw some listed a couple weeks ago, but i missed the boat. 

done a couple extractions at home on my own, but i'd really like to try some professionally made deems.

post in this thread if you are planning to sell any or know when some will be available!!
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: vcalderone on March 04, 2013, 04:44 pm
Try RogerPete http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/050b98414e
You won't be sorry.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: LionwareTradingCo on March 04, 2013, 06:07 pm
Rogerpete is AMAZING.

I've tried others. nothing compares.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 04, 2013, 06:54 pm
cool, thanks for the tip :)

i'll give him a shot
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 05, 2013, 04:30 pm
I have synthetic DMT available. How much do you require.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 05, 2013, 07:22 pm
I have synthetic DMT available. How much do you require.

i was looking to buy a gram, or 2 if the price is right.  does the experience of synthetic DMT differ at all from DMT which has been extracted from MHRB?  is there any plant matter used as a precursor?  just curious, as i've never heard much about synthetic DMT
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 05, 2013, 07:55 pm
No plant material, started from tryptamine & ethyl formate.
Yes it differs, plant material extracted DMT often contains other alkaloids aswell (5-MeO-DMT etc..)
Where does it need to get shipped to?
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: fractalglobal on March 05, 2013, 08:50 pm
Extracted DMT will definitely have a different effect to synthesized DMT.  How much so depends on the plant used in extractions.

The most common plant, Mimosa Hostilis, contains roughly 95% N,N-DMT, with n-methyltryptamine being the next most prevalent alkaloid(an inactive substance).  However if you were to extract from Acacia Obtusifolia(my personal favorite due to ease of access), you can expect the resulting yield to contain some 5-meo-DMT as well. 

That's not to say one is necessarily better than the other.  Some substances are more popular in a non-synthesized form due to the effect that the secondary alkaloids have on the trip, I've never used synthesized DMT personally so I can't say which I would prefer.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 05, 2013, 08:56 pm
Extracted DMT will definitely have a different effect to synthesized DMT.  How much so depends on the plant used in extractions.

The most common plant, Mimosa Hostilis, contains roughly 95% N,N-DMT, with n-methyltryptamine being the next most prevalent alkaloid(an inactive substance).  However if you were to extract from Acacia Obtusifolia(my personal favorite due to ease of access), you can expect the resulting yield to contain some 5-meo-DMT as well. 

That's not to say one is necessarily better than the other.  Some substances are more popular in a non-synthesized form due to the effect that the secondary alkaloids have on the trip, I've never used synthesized DMT personally so I can't say which I would prefer.

Even a different solvent would cause different trips (see Jungle spice on clearnet)
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: fractalglobal on March 05, 2013, 09:13 pm
I was actually going to use that as an example.  My computer crashed while writing my previous post and I must have forgotten to add that in when rewriting.

There has been a lot of debate regarding what jungle spice actually is.  I havn't kept up with the community so I'm not sure if the mystery has been solved yet, but the one overriding opinion is that it contains alkaloids that are specifically not N,N-DMT, but are psychoactive.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 05, 2013, 09:17 pm
I was actually going to use that as an example.  My computer crashed while writing my previous post and I must have forgotten to add that in when rewriting.

There has been a lot of debate regarding what jungle spice actually is.  I havn't kept up with the community so I'm not sure if the mystery has been solved yet, but the one overriding opinion is that it contains alkaloids that are specifically not N,N-DMT, but are psychoactive.

It might be decomposed DMT, or n-oxide, GC/MS gave same peaks as for normal DMT from MHRB..
It is most likely a small trace of a MAO inhibitor that gives the smash and darker side to it.
Maybe, ever, it will get determined what the heck it is.. hehe.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: fractalglobal on March 05, 2013, 09:28 pm
Oxidized/degraded DMT turns a darker yellowish colour from my experience.  I've never actually seen jungle spice in person(due to never having used MHRB in extractions) but the pictures of it makes it look like a badly done de-fat.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: RaFaeL5 on March 05, 2013, 09:31 pm
If I were you,
I would keep an eye on Asylum's page...
or send him a PM with your question
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 05, 2013, 09:31 pm
i would be shipped to USA.  do you have a vendor's account?
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 05, 2013, 09:40 pm
Yes, would need to make custom listing.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 05, 2013, 10:15 pm
Where do you ship from?
how much for a gram?
also, can you post a link to your vendor profile?

Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 05, 2013, 11:46 pm
central europe, my topic is in product offers. please post exact inquiry there.
Thanks.

R
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 06, 2013, 12:36 am
If I were you,
I would keep an eye on Asylum's page...
or send him a PM with your question
   

can you link to his page?
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 06, 2013, 12:42 am
central europe, my topic is in product offers. please post exact inquiry there.
Thanks.

R

well thanks for the offer man, but it doesn't feel right.  If you already had some made up that others had sampled, i'd be more inclined, but i don't know enough about the lab stuff to check your work and know if its gonna be proper.  and if its not, i won't have money to buy extract instead.  I mean, if you had like a .2g sample of something already made i'd definitely try it and then order more if it was good, but that doesn't seem fair to you if you don't already have it made.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: fractalglobal on March 06, 2013, 01:24 am
Ruthenium did a custom synth a few months ago of D-amphetamine that, from what I understand reading the amphetamine vendors review thread at that time, it was fairly close to lab grade.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: Joey Terrifying on March 06, 2013, 01:32 am
Ruthenium did a custom synth a few months ago of D-amphetamine that, from what I understand reading the amphetamine vendors review thread at that time, it was fairly close to lab grade.

well, first, i was reading on his vendor's page that some people weren't happy with the quality.

but assuming it was fine and those were just a couple whiny bitches, i know so little about chemistry that I don't know if one's ability to synth dextroamphetamine means that they are equally as competent at synthesizing DMT. 

I understand that there isn't a big market for DMT, but I don't understand why if you have the knowledge and materials to synth DMT you wouldn't just make a few grams and list it up?

if it were any other drug like molly or 2c-π or something, i wouldn't be so nitpicky, but DMT is like a religion to me
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: fractalglobal on March 06, 2013, 02:28 am
Because he has much more interesting things to synth. He just put listings up for 2c-b which I assume he synthed from mescaline. And I believe hes getting numerous requests(at least from me) for more dextroamphetamine.
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: ruthenium on March 06, 2013, 09:16 am
Ruthenium did a custom synth a few months ago of D-amphetamine that, from what I understand reading the amphetamine vendors review thread at that time, it was fairly close to lab grade.

well, first, i was reading on his vendor's page that some people weren't happy with the quality.

but assuming it was fine and those were just a couple whiny bitches, i know so little about chemistry that I don't know if one's ability to synth dextroamphetamine means that they are equally as competent at synthesizing DMT. 

I understand that there isn't a big market for DMT, but I don't understand why if you have the knowledge and materials to synth DMT you wouldn't just make a few grams and list it up?

if it were any other drug like molly or 2c-π or something, i wouldn't be so nitpicky, but DMT is like a religion to me

well, sorry, for 0.2g I won't bother, there is alot of sellers around, whenever I get time to get a large batch done I will post up some listing, expect it within now and a week.

Best regards

R
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: thumbprintfluff on March 06, 2013, 01:18 pm
 I don't really see any difference with synthetic vs plantbased (nn-dmt not 5meo). Tried it once. I do my own MHRB extracts but I'm a perfectionist.... With that kinda stuff anyway. I don't skip any steps on a/b, and do a triple rex with heptane. The finished product look just like shimmery crack! Rock hard.
  Then I use that to make dmt fumarate cause I prefer to IV due to the harsh smoke. It feels soo clean and natural that way... Like a dream. Don't try unless you really know what your'e doing though!!!
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: shakedown street on March 14, 2013, 04:01 pm
Been looking for I.V. DMT since first coming on the road. Anyone have access to any? PM me if you can hook it up!!!
Title: Re: Lab Grade DMT
Post by: RaFaeL5 on March 14, 2013, 06:44 pm
If I were you,
I would keep an eye on Asylum's page...
or send him a PM with your question
   

can you link to his page?

Here's his page on the Road: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c454ea9fd9

I just saw that he has some DMT listed again - wouldn't wait to long if I were you,
last batch was great and sold out quite quickly (if I remember right).

Enjoyyyyyyy