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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Eternal Sunshine on December 02, 2012, 06:45 pm

Title: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: Eternal Sunshine on December 02, 2012, 06:45 pm
Hi guys/girls

I used MDMA 3 times over a 9 month period. First time was fine (I mean, AMAZING).

Second and third time, i start getting immense headache after about 300mg.

I usually dose like

t+0: 100 mg

t+1h = 100mg

t+3-4h (comedown) : 100 mg

Anyone having the same experience ?

I googled but most of them talk about headache the day after , i don't have that.
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: inthedaytimewitha on December 02, 2012, 06:55 pm
may just be dehydration.  Are you drinking enough water while rolling?
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: Eternal Sunshine on December 02, 2012, 07:00 pm
Setting has always been at home with girlfriend. And I drink about 50 cl every hour
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: catfishinmysocks on December 02, 2012, 07:58 pm
Take less? 300mg is an immense amount, even at a rave. Try halving that.
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: Gary Oak on December 02, 2012, 08:16 pm
Many users complain of headaches either during the MDMA experience or shortly afterwards. There are a number of factors that could be causing them.

First, serotonin may play a role in the cause of migraines. Serotonin releasing/depleting drugs like reserpine can induce a migraine. So it follows that MDMA, which causes the brain to be flooded with serotonin, could cause headaches.

Second, MDMA is a stimulant, and stimulants raise blood pressure. Increased blood pressure is known to cause headaches.

Third, the muscle and jaw tension caused by MDMA's stimulant effects can cause or contribute to a headache.

Fourth, nystagmus could possibly cause a headache, especially if a user was attempting to focus his/her eyes.


I would advise taking a smaller dosage overall. Also up the initial dose by half, lower the second dose slightly and make it an appropriate booster, and remove the third dose completely as it's most likely causing more harm than good and due to tolerance will only exacerbate the negative effects while diminishing the positive. After all, you only have so much serotonin to give out before it's depleted right?

So try taking a 130mg-180mg dose to begin with, followed by a 50mg-100mg booster after an hour or or even two at the most. :)
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: Gary Oak on December 02, 2012, 08:23 pm
I usually dose like

t+0: 100 mg

t+1h = 100mg

t+3-4h (comedown) : 100 mg

Oral MDMA Dosages
Threshold   30 mg
Light   40 - 75 mg
Common (small or sensitive people)   60 - 90 mg
Common (most people)   75 - 125 mg
Common (large or less sensitive people)   110 - 150 mg
Strong   150 - 200 mg
Heavy   200 + mg

Onset : 20 - 70 minutes (depending on form and stomach contents)
Duration : 3 - 5 hours
Normal After Effects : up to 24 hours

See where you went wrong now? You're trying to increase the length of the high which just isn't going to flow well with a substance like MDMA, if you really wish to keep the trip going you'll need to invest in some other drugs. Several of my favorite drugs to do at the end of a roll are any of the 2C-X's, Ketamine, and any shroom or shroom like substance such as 4-HO-MET. They bring the euphoria back almost instantly and combine very nicely together. If you aren't rolling hard enough from a regular dose of MDMA then buy some MDA to kick it up a notch. ;)
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: MasterS on December 02, 2012, 08:32 pm
I blame inflated claims on presses for people thinking they need to take so much.
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 02, 2012, 11:11 pm
Hey Eternal Sunshine :)

Re-dosing twice is never a good idea - once is better- and 300mg in total is stretching it a tad...

Would suggest a dosing protocol more like:

t+0         100mg - 150mg
t+1-2h      50mg - 100mg

i.e. a bit higher initial dose, a lower 2nd dose and lose the third one.

And keeping your total dose in the 200mg - 250mg range.

It's probably your 2nd re-dose at t+3-4h that is causing the stress.

If you want to extend the experience (we all do!) then I suggest using GHB instead of more MDMA - see my detailed post on this here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90975.0/index.php?topic=90975.0

BG
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: stinkybreeze on December 03, 2012, 06:10 am

Quit screwing around and just take a 150-180mg dose, then at the 4 or 5 hr mark cap up 15-30 mg of 2c-b. Lovely time! Every time.
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 04, 2012, 01:43 am

Quit screwing around and just take a 150-180mg dose, then at the 4 or 5 hr mark cap up 15-30 mg of 2c-b. Lovely time! Every time.

I agree with stinkybreeze - def better to have a higher initial dose of the MDMA to get you in there good and proper - and then do one more extension with the MDMA if you want.

And regarding 2C-B at the 4-5 hour mark I also agree wholeheartedly. Best to take the 2C-B as a single dose just before MDMA baseline - not too early.

In fact my favourite combo EVER would probably be as follows:

1. Low dose good liquid acid, sub or just threshold - around 25 - 50 mics.
2. An hour or two later MDMA at around 150mg - 175mg
3. An hour after that another 50 - 75mg MDMA.
4. When notice the MDMA starting to drop out take 15 - 25mg 2C-B.
5. An hour or two after that start sipping GHB at around 1g every 25 minutes until in the zone.
6. Continue with the GHB at around 1g every 35 - 45 mins to maintain level for as long as desired.

Personally I do not think there is a better way to get high, intimate and deeply pleasurable. I've never found ANYTHING nicer.

Would love to hear about other people's choices in this regard!

BG
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: stinkybreeze on December 04, 2012, 05:46 am

Quit screwing around and just take a 150-180mg dose, then at the 4 or 5 hr mark cap up 15-30 mg of 2c-b. Lovely time! Every time.

I agree with stinkybreeze - def better to have a higher initial dose of the MDMA to get you in there good and proper - and then do one more extension with the MDMA if you want.

And regarding 2C-B at the 4-5 hour mark I also agree wholeheartedly. Best to take the 2C-B as a single dose just before MDMA baseline - not too early.

In fact my favourite combo EVER would probably be as follows:

1. Low dose good liquid acid, sub or just threshold - around 25 - 50 mics.
2. An hour or two later MDMA at around 150mg - 175mg
3. An hour after that another 50 - 75mg MDMA.
4. When notice the MDMA starting to drop out take 15 - 25mg 2C-B.
5. An hour or two after that start sipping GHB at around 1g every 25 minutes until in the zone.
6. Continue with the GHB at around 1g every 35 - 45 mins to maintain level for as long as desired.

Personally I do not think there is a better way to get high, intimate and deeply pleasurable. I've never found ANYTHING nicer.

Would love to hear about other people's choices in this regard!

BG


Oh my !!!

Now that sounds lovely!  I only need to score some cid now for my collection.

Sounds like a loooong perrrrfect night !
Title: Re: Problems whiles rolling
Post by: tea_drinker on December 04, 2012, 10:43 am
In fact my favourite combo EVER would probably be as follows:

1. Low dose good liquid acid, sub or just threshold - around 25 - 50 mics.
2. An hour or two later MDMA at around 150mg - 175mg
3. An hour after that another 50 - 75mg MDMA.
4. When notice the MDMA starting to drop out take 15 - 25mg 2C-B.
5. An hour or two after that start sipping GHB at around 1g every 25 minutes until in the zone.
6. Continue with the GHB at around 1g every 35 - 45 mins to maintain level for as long as desired.

Personally I do not think there is a better way to get high, intimate and deeply pleasurable. I've never found ANYTHING nicer.

This sounds wonderful, it's on the 'to experience' list  ;D