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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: ejammings on June 17, 2013, 08:13 pm

Title: psychedelics and steroids
Post by: ejammings on June 17, 2013, 08:13 pm
I'm on Anavar(a mild oral steroid for losing fat/gaining strength) and I noticed I am having major mood swings.

I'm wondering if these mood swings will induce a bad trip and if I should stay away from drugs until I'm finished the cycle. When on MDMA I experienced psychosis(schizophrenia and huge anxiety, people often comment on how calm and collected I always am) on the comedown which lasted what I think was an hour. It was my first time and I took 175mg orally with orange juice.

Anyone have experiences? I can't find anything on wiki or erowid
Title: Re: psychedelics and steroids
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on June 18, 2013, 12:38 pm
are you on Anavar for any prescribed reasons or simply for training?

you should talk to a physician about your mood swings; and stay away from psychedelics &/or any other drugs (maybe except weed,) for the duration of your steroid cycle (and few weeks afterwards)

neurochemistry is a sensitive & delicate thing, aswell as your mental health and that of those around you.

stay safe, be kind to yourself & others.
Title: Re: psychedelics and steroids
Post by: HarmReduction on June 18, 2013, 02:34 pm
Anavar or Oxandrolone is one of the most commonly used cutting cycle steroids when it comes to losing body weight and fat quickly. Classified as a Schedule III (non-narcotic) controlled substance under the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990, this anabolic steroid has the unique ability of inhibiting muscle catabolism that prevents muscles of the body from breaking down.

The active ingredient in Anavar tablets is the steroid Oxandrolone and the list of inactive ingredients includes lactose, magnesium stearate, cornstarch, and hydroxypropyl methylcellulose. It has an active life of 8-12 hours mind yourself because it is detectable up to three weeks. The anabolic steroid is recommended to patients after post extensive surgery, severe trauma, and chronic infections to help them gain weight and is also suggested to HIV/AIDS patients with muscle wasting. Hence why Twelve_Pickles I suspect  asked if you were on it as medication. The recommended dosage of Anavar is 200-100 mg per day for men and 2.5-20.0 mg per day for women. Side effects of Anavar can be side effects like loss of appetite, depression, dark urine, muscle cramps, nausea, vomiting, itching, difficulty in breathing, acne, changes in libido, menstrual irregularities, and mood changes. There are some excellent forums on the clear net http://www.tmuscle.co.uk/ is a great one as its moderated by professionals in the field - Best of luck and stay saft
Title: Re: psychedelics and steroids
Post by: flaxceed on July 07, 2013, 05:01 am
I'm on Anavar(a mild oral steroid for losing fat/gaining strength) and I noticed I am having major mood swings.

I'm wondering if these mood swings will induce a bad trip and if I should stay away from drugs until I'm finished the cycle. When on MDMA I experienced psychosis(schizophrenia and huge anxiety, people often comment on how calm and collected I always am) on the comedown which lasted what I think was an hour. It was my first time and I took 175mg orally with orange juice.

Anyone have experiences? I can't find anything on wiki or erowid

It is definitely best to avoid any other drugs while on steroids.  Most people have no issues smoking marijuana while on a cycle but absolutely avoid any psychedelics, stimulants, and alcohol.  I agree with Twelve_Pickles that neurochemistry is a delicate matter and should be taken seriously.  Bad chemistry and bad behavior go hand-in-hand.
Title: Re: psychedelics and steroids
Post by: Internal Freedom on July 07, 2013, 05:51 am
How much are you taking? I did a 2 month cycle of Anavar last year, around 40mg a day. I was doing it more for cutting, not as much for bulking.

I did MDMA, LSD and Shrooms during the cycle with no side effects. Oxandrolone doesn't effect any of the receptors that psychedelics effect so I don't think you have to worry. It doesn't even effect testosterone so that's strange that you are getting mood swings, but not uncommon.
Title: Re: psychedelics and steroids
Post by: stayawake on July 07, 2013, 09:09 am
Most likely all in your head.

Anavar is extremely mild and barely suppresses your body's HPTA. A 175mg dose of Anavar is a total overkill by the way. It's too mild and too expensive to take like that. In fact, most IFBB pro's don't go too much beyond 80-100mg a day because back pumps become such an issue.

Why are you not taking Testosterone with your cycle? Unless you're near single digit BF%, you won't notice hardly anything from Anavar.

Save the anavar, diet properly, and come back with 12 weeks worth of Test E and your anavar.

EDIT: read your post wrong about MDMA dosage not anavar. Sorry.