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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: ImTylerDurden on August 12, 2013, 05:48 pm

Title: Acquiring drop points
Post by: ImTylerDurden on August 12, 2013, 05:48 pm
How does one acquire a secure drop point other than their own home? extorting your neighbor? fake name? real name? abandoned address? how does this work? what is the difference between a live drop and a dead drop? what are the other kinds of drops?  shipping to other people that you trust? shipping to other people you dont trust? shipping to a random abandoned house off 7 mile in Detroit?

What about if you are mailing illegal shit to someone else? go in the phone book and use a random guys name and address for the return address?

obviously a lot of this is trade secret, but can someone help me out with the basics that most people already talk about openly? I know nothing. Do your deed for the day and teach a newb, something usefull!  ;D
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: MichaelWesten on August 12, 2013, 06:53 pm
How many drop points do you realistically need? You answer that and I can give you an idea of whats best suited for your needs.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: sleeptight on August 12, 2013, 07:02 pm
You need an accessible mail box with your delivery name on it. That's all you have to know.
It can be with or without agreement of the owner.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: dmtechnics on August 12, 2013, 09:43 pm
you can always pay a trusted friend 10% of the package to receive it
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: MuchoBoostin on August 13, 2013, 05:46 am
Trying to learn more about this as well.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: VHSplayer on August 13, 2013, 07:18 am
You can always obtain a fake ID and a secondary and go open a PO box at a UPS store or mom and pop store.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: mrniceguy420 on August 13, 2013, 08:06 am
you can always pay a trusted friend 10% of the package to receive it

True story.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: MuchoBoostin on August 13, 2013, 01:09 pm
You can always obtain a fake ID and a secondary and go open a PO box at a UPS store or mom and pop store.

Is that actually recommended tho? Doesn't that just bring even bigger chargers?
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: Vanquish on August 13, 2013, 01:39 pm
How many drop points do you realistically need? You answer that and I can give you an idea of whats best suited for your needs.

This comment is officially awesome. 
Because it came from Michael Westen.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: VHSplayer on August 13, 2013, 04:47 pm
You can always obtain a fake ID and a secondary and go open a PO box at a UPS store or mom and pop store.

Is that actually recommended tho? Doesn't that just bring even bigger chargers?

A lot of people do it safely and effectively.

Just don't send tons and tons of packs to your box. Once you get a couple packages, close it and move on to another store, preferably out of town. If the shipper ships correctly you will never have to worry about getting busted. As I said before, just don't go and get weight after weight after weight shipped to you.

I wouldn't involve my friends in the equation. The more people know what you are up to, the worse. Remember - "loose lips sink ships"
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: MuchoBoostin on August 13, 2013, 05:16 pm
You can always obtain a fake ID and a secondary and go open a PO box at a UPS store or mom and pop store.

Is that actually recommended tho? Doesn't that just bring even bigger chargers?

A lot of people do it safely and effectively.

Just don't send tons and tons of packs to your box. Once you get a couple packages, close it and move on to another store, preferably out of town. If the shipper ships correctly you will never have to worry about getting busted. As I said before, just don't go and get weight after weight after weight shipped to you.

I wouldn't involve my friends in the equation. The more people know what you are up to, the worse. Remember - "loose lips sink ships"

That makes sense. I move mostly personal amounts, but would like a few bigger orders so I'm not ordering so often because I feel like that is just as suspicious. I order a lot of legal stuff online so I don't feel like it's a huge deal, but I'm close to that 30 transaction mark here and I feel like it's time to switch it up and increase my security a little. Instead of a couple of halfs of weed a month, order 2oz every couple of months...same with other things.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: VHSplayer on August 13, 2013, 06:00 pm
You can always obtain a fake ID and a secondary and go open a PO box at a UPS store or mom and pop store.

Is that actually recommended tho? Doesn't that just bring even bigger chargers?

A lot of people do it safely and effectively.

Just don't send tons and tons of packs to your box. Once you get a couple packages, close it and move on to another store, preferably out of town. If the shipper ships correctly you will never have to worry about getting busted. As I said before, just don't go and get weight after weight after weight shipped to you.

I wouldn't involve my friends in the equation. The more people know what you are up to, the worse. Remember - "loose lips sink ships"

That makes sense. I move mostly personal amounts, but would like a few bigger orders so I'm not ordering so often because I feel like that is just as suspicious. I order a lot of legal stuff online so I don't feel like it's a huge deal, but I'm close to that 30 transaction mark here and I feel like it's time to switch it up and increase my security a little. Instead of a couple of halfs of weed a month, order 2oz every couple of months...same with other things.

2 zips is totally fine.

It was just a suggestion, but I know a lot of people who use this method efficiently.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: ImTylerDurden on August 13, 2013, 11:45 pm
How many drop points do you realistically need? You answer that and I can give you an idea of whats best suited for your needs.

at this very moment, none. But soon I will have a monopoly on my local area. Although, I want to have a relatively small operation compared to what many on SR probably have. I just don't like the idea of having shit sent to my fucking house. one or two reliable drops is really all I want. Be able to burn them as needed, and pick up new replacement drops.

I'm not trying to be on some Breaking Bad type shit. Just spots other than my house. Also, what are common ways to obtain a fake ID without coincidentally knowing someone that looks like you? Whats up with  buying fake ID's via SR? How legit is that?
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: TheIndigoChild on August 14, 2013, 07:27 am
I would like to hear from any one who has experience with using vacant addresses with packages. Every have a package not arrive at your abandoned drop point? also if the box was small was it put in the mail box? Or does it get left at the door as usual ?
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: fakename709 on August 14, 2013, 03:13 pm

I wouldn't involve my friends in the equation. The more people know what you are up to, the worse. Remember - "loose lips sink ships"
This.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: MichaelWesten on August 14, 2013, 04:36 pm
You have a few options, the best and smartest one is to pick out your best customer, let them know you'll give them a discount for getting the package themselves.  No need to mention the road or bitcoins or anything like that.  Just I have a dude from wherever the package is coming from, and I will hook you up if you start getting your own package.  Generally a 10-20% discount will pique the interest of the average reseller.  If this is not an option for you, well you're gonna have to get more creative. 

Honestly the best idea for this is to go to the largest church in your local area and get a church directory.  This will allow you access to one of the larger local databases of elderly individuals.  Eliminate all elderly who look to be physically fit, have a glimmer of liveliness in their eye, or people that you know to be active in the community.  You can then create a map of your local area of these houses.  If you spend a little time following the mail carriers (careful with this, don't want to appear suspicious) you can get a good idea of what time mail is delivered on a certain route.  Honestly if your business is successful enough you can just buy gps trackers and plant them on the mail vehicle in question.  You rotate the addresses and carrier routes and you could receive quite a few packages this way (assuming they are not too large to fit in a mailbox).

The only other solution I can come up with off the dome is ethically reprehensible so I'm gonna leave that one alone.
Title: Re: Acquiring drop points
Post by: ImTylerDurden on August 14, 2013, 06:11 pm
dont be a bitch. Even people that have legitimate businesses break ethical and moral boundaries every day. Share your unethical solution.