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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: hashmaster on September 13, 2012, 03:03 pm

Title: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 13, 2012, 03:03 pm
Have ordered numerous products without any problems whatsoever from different vendors.

DS profile page:     http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/5439bf9e3c

 I thought I'd try some of his (dutchshop) zero zero.  I got a msg saying it was shipped a few hours later, after a week nothing, then i get a msg saying that for security reasons he waited to ship a week later. A week after that sill nothing! I then look at his profile and he's not even selling any products at all and the last few reviews say that they didn't receive! I think I'm going to resolve, is there any possibility of this resolution not affecting my stats (which are perfect atm) or getting a 100% refund. I'm guessing not but it's worth asking.
Title: Re: Dutchshop selective scamming?
Post by: Reeferparty on September 13, 2012, 06:51 pm
I got the same problem. I ordered on Tuesday and still haven't received anything. I have send him a message, but he hasn't replied (yet). I also noticed his feedback of the past couple of days is full of people with refunds?
Title: Re: Dutchshop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 14, 2012, 01:52 pm
Did he use stalling tactics?

 I received a msg saying it was dispatched a few hours after I made the purchase, possibly getting me to FE, and then a week later he says for security reasons blah blah blah it was dispatched. A week after that nothing through the mail. I would expect a customs letter if he actually did send, but nothing. I'm normally cool with a 50% refund policy, as the seller has to cover costs through seized goods but when I feel like I'm being scammed it just doesn't feel right. To top it all off he's stopped selling as far as I'm aware, which makes me even more suspicious. And It really sucks to get my 100% non refund rate ruined by a scam.
Title: Re: Dutchshop selective scamming?
Post by: JForce on September 14, 2012, 01:53 pm
If the vendor is proven to be a scammer or it's just obvious that he/she is then you'll get a refund without it affecting your stats.

Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 14, 2012, 02:01 pm
If the vendor is proven to be a scammer or it's just obvious that he/she is then you'll get a refund without it affecting your stats.

 :D That's Awesome! I really hate scammers, they inflate prices for honest buyers like myself and tarnish the reputation of this site
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: Reeferparty on September 14, 2012, 02:27 pm
Still not received antyhing, and still no reply? He has been online today (look at his profile). I don't know what the fuck he is doing but it definitely looks like scamming :(
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 15, 2012, 10:18 am
Got a reply from DS  today saying he lied about the shipment date, and he was getting high on his supply, was suffering from burnout and that it should arrive by the end  of next week. I've extended the due date to give the seller 1 FINAL chance, which is more than fair considering I ordered  a few weeks ago. Will update if /when it arrives.
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: uniwiz on September 15, 2012, 10:56 am
Ok newbies,

This subject has already been in a thread.
He has a review thread. -> http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3109.0
NL is the worst country you could order from.

I thought his packing was flawless, but ran into the same thing, no letter either.
I think when they find his method they bag all his product, or the person doing the drop is screwing up.

Anyhow, not the first time he has lost a bunch of orders.
Last I knew he makes good on them, it takes a while.
I love to have polm 0/0, but I'm keeping away from NL shipments.
Need a domestic source for sure.

Do you feel he is treating you badly?
As long as your in escrow you'll get  50% back.
You did understand the risk before you bought?
If you read deeper in the forum you'll fine NL shipments get stop before they even leave the country.

Stay safe!
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 15, 2012, 03:33 pm
Yeah, domestic is the way to go from now on if I can help it.

To be fair, given the fact that he has actually ADMITTED TO LYING about shipping my order, a 100% refund & NO stat change (as my buyer stats are flawless atm)  seems reasonable if it indeed doesn't arrive. I agree that on most orders a 50% refund is fair, but in this case, I have received msg after msg saying that it's been delayed due to X reason and have been waiting patiently now for over 2 weeks. I even extended the due date to give him even more time. Who knows, I could get a special hamster treat in the post in the next few days and can finally finalize and not have to worry about my buyer stats, or losing half my money.
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: Reeferparty on September 18, 2012, 04:54 pm
Did your orders arrive yet? Mine hasn't, he told me that he had some personal problems and he would send it, but I still haven't received anything!!!!!!
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: an0nymous on September 18, 2012, 05:43 pm
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Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 20, 2012, 04:19 am
Did your orders arrive yet? Mine hasn't, he told me that he had some personal problems and he would send it, but I still haven't received anything!!!!!!

Still nothing as of yet :( will update if I receive some tasty treats in the mail, but I'm becoming skeptical... lemme know if  you get anything
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: uniwiz on September 21, 2012, 01:13 am
God dammit Dutchsho?p don't you read the forums?

I'll PM him in a few days.
He is a recommended vendor who going to get pulled if I don't hear a response.
Every has problems IR.
You guys deserve an honest answer.
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 21, 2012, 07:28 pm
Have Pm'd him about my order. Now waiting for a response..........
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: uniwiz on September 21, 2012, 07:47 pm
He hasn't read my PM, I think he is having IRL problems.
You can check by clicking on sent, then your PM is still in bold.
He is long time vendor here.
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: dutchshop on September 21, 2012, 08:23 pm
Hi,

i had personal problems the last month and it is hard if you body and  mind stopping working like it us to do but also i try to do my best to keep everybody happy.
i know i let people down but still i'm a human being who try to do his best.At this moment i started to do refund for the people who haven't receiverd there order and also i changed and improved my package.

No' i'm not a selective scammer because i worked very hard to for over  1 year to do business here.

Greets DS,
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: uniwiz on September 21, 2012, 08:36 pm
Thanks DS,

You have been here for a long time, not the first time IRL bit you.
He always comes through, but he has no use for scammers.
Rep is everything ;)
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: dutchshop on September 21, 2012, 09:39 pm
DutchShop Update,

Check my feedback for the last 2 days and you see that my customers starting receiving there orders.
i always refunded my customers or send the orders to there destination over 1 year and that is a fact and if you don't believe then open a topic about dutchshop refund experience in the past months or now if you want.
Also if you wanna order something then stay in escrow so i don't ask you to release escrows so after you receive your package then finilize then.


Greets DS,
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: hashmaster on September 24, 2012, 06:06 pm
I got your order safe and sound DS took a while but great hash
Title: Re: DutchShop selective scamming?
Post by: Jimmy Spliff on October 23, 2012, 11:25 am
Hi
i ordered from him at last thuesday and nothing arrives until now :( NL to central EU normaly it takes 3-4 day and now its over a week and nothing has shown up :( it defenetly think he dont send some because he sayd as i asked him on thuesday when he gives it in transit he sayd "   Hi, The netherlands football team is playing so after the game i will confirm shipment.Greets DS," thats sound a bit bad to me...also he said he shipped it on afternoon and put it in transit later?(how he hill see my adress then)ordered: October 16, 2012, 12:22 pm UTC
                                                                                                                                                                  shipped: October 16, 2012, 10:54 pm UTC
i think this guy is a selective scammer cause i read in his feedback a few buyers their orders are not arrived. so i am not the first one :)
but i think it before and asked him about his bad feedback and he said he has a new packaging method and its secure...looks like a shit new method when my package is not arriving after a week to almost a neighboring State....dont matter if it only was 1g but it was to test this guy...and i am lucky that i dont order more because i didnt get i until now.....i will surely update this when something has changed
Peace