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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: German Kraut on October 15, 2012, 03:56 pm

Title: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: German Kraut on October 15, 2012, 03:56 pm
I found this link in the internet.It´s "Quick Enter to the  login site of user accounts to Silk Road"

DONT USE IT !!! DO NOT LOGIN, JUST WATCH !!

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/index.php/silkroad/home

I cant believe that this is a secure way to login to Silk Road without using TOR.For me this sounds just for a way for scammer to hijack and steal your Silk Road Account & Info, or maeby the DEA wants to infiltrate Silk Road with this adress.I dont know ...
You can open the login site in a normal Browser without using TOR. Dont use it, just watch ....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/index.php/silkroad/home

Im sure its only created for scammers to steal Silk Road Accounts.
Or is it realy working ???? I think NO.

Please check it .If this is a security problem please post some warnings ....
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: microRNA on October 15, 2012, 04:27 pm
thats crazy

you are definitely correct, this is most likely a phishing attempt

definitely not anything to do with the real SR
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: BenCousins on October 15, 2012, 05:03 pm
thats crazy

you are definitely correct, this is most likely a phishing attempt

definitely not anything to do with the real SR

yes it is.....

.to is hoe you connect to .onion sites without using tor
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: microRNA on October 15, 2012, 05:52 pm
are you serious?  i am really confused. you are saying you can access tor sites without using tor?

wtf - i mean doesnt that completely negate the entire point of using SR on an anonymous network

i dont understand, can someone explain this to me? why would there be a way to get on SR and not be anonymous, wouldnt this compromise the security of the site?
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: CoolGrey on October 15, 2012, 06:03 pm
i dont understand, can someone explain this to me? why would there be a way to get on SR and not be anonymous, wouldnt this compromise the security of the site?
Somebody set up a service that allows you to see the content of .onion sites without using Tor.

I guess, what they basically do is they connect to the Tor network for you. You enter the URL (or better said, the .onion pseudo domain), they go to that hidden service and send the contents back to you, probably through an unencrypted connection.

Is it anonymous?... Absolutely not. Don't use it.
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: Aidoneus on October 15, 2012, 06:08 pm
Everything was pretty much covered above. Just to make it crystal clear, though - the advantage of using Tor isn't so much just to access 'hidden services' as there are several ways to do that without actually using Tor (as well as several ways to set them up SOMEWHAT securely on clearnet). It's main advantage is masking your location and making any association to you nearly impossible based on your connection.
.Hades.
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: BenCousins on October 15, 2012, 07:50 pm
Theres also tor2web
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: Aidoneus on October 15, 2012, 07:53 pm
Theres also tor2web

Which, also, you shouldn't use. :P
.Hades.
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: BenCousins on October 15, 2012, 08:03 pm
Theres also tor2web

Which, also, you shouldn't use. :P
.Hades.

you also shouldnt use a any normal clearnet browser to visit any link placed on this site
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: microRNA on October 15, 2012, 09:28 pm
could you please clarify what you mean by that? you mean not to trust links or what exactly? thanks :)

sorry obviously i didnt even realize you could access tor on the clearnet
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: Aidoneus on October 15, 2012, 09:33 pm
could you please clarify what you mean by that? you mean not to trust links or what exactly? thanks :)

sorry obviously i didnt even realize you could access tor on the clearnet

What he means is that you shouldn't use your regular browser to visit any link posted here. Always use the TorBrowser or whatever browser you have setup to use the Tor proxy. I would assume, based on a lot of the posts here, that most people just use the TorBrowser Bundle because it's easiest to setup. So hes saying... don't open your Safari or IE or Chrome or regular Firefox to visit a link that has been posted here... EVER.
.Hades.
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: AnonymousAddict on October 16, 2012, 04:46 am
Well from what i have learned in the last 6 mnths has pretty much been coverd. Also you need to uncheck the JAVA setting in the top tor browser options settings, its under content.. It can from my understanding help give away your location. I piggy back off someone's wifi and when iv ran the IP it always says the dns is in another state, even on clear net i use cyber ghost to mask my IP sometimes though.... Is this Java information correct fellow member who know a little more about TOR and keeping yourself anonymous?
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: Aidoneus on October 16, 2012, 05:00 am
You COULD actually leave that setting for Java checked if you are using the TorBrowser Bundle. The reason being is that the TBB is automatically configured to 'hook' dangerous java activity; meaning it will catch data that could give away your location.

That being said, disabling Java isn't a terrible idea anyway... if for nothing else than redundancy.
.Hades.
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: gestaltassault2 on October 16, 2012, 05:55 am
onion.to is a proxy which allows people to connect to SR and other .onion sites through a clearnet browser...however it doesn't provide the anonymity you get from a TOR circuit...
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: BenCousins on October 16, 2012, 02:00 pm
could you please clarify what you mean by that? you mean not to trust links or what exactly? thanks :)

sorry obviously i didnt even realize you could access tor on the clearnet

What he means is that you shouldn't use your regular browser to visit any link posted here. Always use the TorBrowser or whatever browser you have setup to use the Tor proxy. I would assume, based on a lot of the posts here, that most people just use the TorBrowser Bundle because it's easiest to setup. So hes saying... don't open your Safari or IE or Chrome or regular Firefox to visit a link that has been posted here... EVER.
.Hades.

What i mean is that a honeypot link could be posted on here that could only have been found by people visiting here. It would then be visited and Log the IP's of anyone visiting and they now have the IP's of SR users.

BC
Title: Re: Security Problem ??? Connect to Silk Road without using TOR ??
Post by: Evanescence on October 16, 2012, 03:30 pm
Ben you are so right and I think most people don't understand this.

I suspect some people follow links in their normal browsers because it's much faster, but that one click could get you busted.  And it's very, very easy for someone to setup such a trap.

I also think most don't understand the exit node/clear text limitations.

I should probably setup an exit node and look for SR keywords, just to see how many people are risking their lives...


What i mean is that a honeypot link could be posted on here that could only have been found by people visiting here. It would then be visited and Log the IP's of anyone visiting and they now have the IP's of SR users.