Silk Road forums

Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: alan smithee on October 30, 2012, 04:21 pm

Title: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: alan smithee on October 30, 2012, 04:21 pm
Just look at the threads in SR discussion, it is becoming unuseable due to the spamming and the number of people being scammed must be huge, which will in turn affect the reputation of the forum and the main site.

Come on mods, sort it out, either add mods with spam removal powers, block any submission with keywords, give us a report button so that after 5 reports it is auto hidden until a mod approves it.

There must be solutions that will work on .onion sites.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: thecrackhead on October 30, 2012, 04:39 pm
Well, I think you're being dramatic but yes indeed there are ways on improving the forum, I would even say many. It's just that I guess people don't have time as there are thousands of customers with tens of thousands of issues and enquirers and a hand of administrators that can properly look into these matters.

I would suggest a monthly fee in order to post, and a board for newbies that a MOD can update from time to time. A-Z guide even tho it's there already, the wiki but noobs are sometimes idiots and don't bother to read it...

There will be a change soon I predict because if we get pissed they also get pissed..

Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: CoolGrey on October 30, 2012, 04:40 pm
This is not a problem that can't be conquered. There are some solutions:

- adding the domain name of scam sites to word filters (for everybody with less than 200 posts)
- appointing a group of Spam Busters that can hide threads until a mod has verified them
- blocking threads that have the same title

The SR management just needs to be willing to implement those.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: fractalglobal on October 30, 2012, 05:19 pm
I would suggest a monthly fee in order to post, and a board for newbies that a MOD can update from time to time.
Monthly fee completely destroys the purpose/philosophy behind SR.  I doubt admins are hypocritical enough to consider this.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: thecrackhead on October 30, 2012, 05:35 pm
I would suggest a monthly fee in order to post, and a board for newbies that a MOD can update from time to time.
Monthly fee completely destroys the purpose/philosophy behind SR.  I doubt admins are hypocritical enough to consider this.
It will only destroy kids that would never buy anything on SR, just spam the shit out of the forum and the guy behind btkoin.com and spammers in general.

0.02 Would be a decent amount and trust me you always have 0.XX in your wallet if you are a decent/honest buyer.

I personally consider that by taking this action the community on SR would get better and more trustworthy.

As long as you leave it free for guests/noobs I don't see how that is going to affect the purpose/philosophy behind SR.

Peace :)
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: Barbijuana on October 30, 2012, 05:39 pm
I would suggest a monthly fee in order to post, and a board for newbies that a MOD can update from time to time.
Monthly fee completely destroys the purpose/philosophy behind SR.  I doubt admins are hypocritical enough to consider this.
It will only destroy kids that would never buy anything on SR, just spam the shit out of the forum and the guy behind btkoin.com and spammers in general.

0.02 Would be a decent amount and trust me you always have 0.XX in your wallet if you are a decent/honest buyer.

I personally consider that by taking this action the community on SR would get better and more trustworthy.

As long as you leave it free for guests/noobs I don't see how that is going to affect the purpose/philosophy behind SR.

Peace :)

My first reaction was negative, but then I realized I usually do have 1-2.XX BTC in my account at all times. It would eliminate a lot of freeloading begging scumbags and multi account spammers/scammers
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: thecrackhead on October 30, 2012, 05:45 pm
I would suggest a monthly fee in order to post, and a board for newbies that a MOD can update from time to time.
Monthly fee completely destroys the purpose/philosophy behind SR.  I doubt admins are hypocritical enough to consider this.
It will only destroy kids that would never buy anything on SR, just spam the shit out of the forum and the guy behind btkoin.com and spammers in general.

0.02 Would be a decent amount and trust me you always have 0.XX in your wallet if you are a decent/honest buyer.

I personally consider that by taking this action the community on SR would get better and more trustworthy.

As long as you leave it free for guests/noobs I don't see how that is going to affect the purpose/philosophy behind SR.

Peace :)

My first reaction was negative, but then I realized I usually do have 1-2.XX BTC in my account at all times. It would eliminate a lot of freeloading begging scumbags and multi account spammers/scammers

Thank you for understanding :)


there are thousands of customers with tens of thousands of issues and enquirers and a hand of administrators that can properly look into these matters.

That itself is a problem. SR doesn't scale. They can't just post job offers on Craigslist and hire a bunch of new people. If they are days behind on support tickets now, how far behind will they be in a year?
Well I suppose DPR is working out something I have this weird feeling that he is smarter than many of us. I guess he is aware of these facts and they will be sorted soon.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: nosaj_thing on October 30, 2012, 06:04 pm
i don't know all that much about it, but wouldn't adding a captcha to the reg forms on these forums sort it all out?
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: ValiantExplorer on October 30, 2012, 09:40 pm
Hello. I'm new here and very enthusiastic about what you people are doing. But the more people get here, the more unwanted attention. I would be in favor of a monthly tax for using the Forum (even though I have no bitcoin now, as I'm still learning about how to purchase anonymously and stuff).
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: jsmithy123 on October 30, 2012, 10:44 pm
it is just php not rocket science it would be trivial to refuse reposts with the same content, or throttle posts from an individual user, or any number of other ways to deal with it even a sledge hammer to crack a nut run a script every 5 minutes that deletes mostly duplicated posts from the database.

If the site admin is overloaded (although god knows deleting this crap must be more time consuming than putting in a fix) I'd be happy to work on it for free they could send me the code I'd fix it and send back the diffs for inspection, no security risk no need to reveal server location admin ID or anything.

It is actually a bit of a worry if they haven't the time and smarts to quickly squash this kind of spam bot how safe are our bitcoin deposits, private messages, and transaction records?
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: ValiantExplorer on October 30, 2012, 10:50 pm
I think they'd rather work at the SR itself rather than the Forum. Still, that spam could indeed be easily been adverted with a few lines of code. Even an automatic removal of all other offending posts & the user itself.

It's annoying that I also got PM-ed by the damn bot.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: alan smithee on October 30, 2012, 11:01 pm
i know i was being overly dramatic with the title but a little editorialising helps pique peoples interest.

some of these are good suggestions i hope SR admins take them up
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: owenk on October 31, 2012, 02:43 am
Hello. I'm new here and very enthusiastic about what you people are doing. But the more people get here, the more unwanted attention. I would be in favor of a monthly tax for using the Forum (even though I have no bitcoin now, as I'm still learning about how to purchase anonymously and stuff).
There are differing views on whether attention is unwanted or wanted. I'm of the mind that the world should see what is going on here.  The public needs to work through their initial shock and exasperation (as I did) and continue to research and learn about what is really the strategic hope here.

The problem is, if all citizens underwent the same evolution that I have been through over the last couple years, several very powerful powers would quickly fade into irrelevance.  In a world clearly beginning to distance itself from oppressive prohibition, with the respectable voices of reform yelling their messages from mountain tops, Silk Road is the equivalent of an extinction level asteroid coming their way.  So the hour is late, the stakes are even higher than we are, and the race is on.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: GiveUsSome on October 31, 2012, 02:46 am
the problem can easily be fixed: 2prong attack.

Make a Captcha for every post if you have less than 30 posts.

Write a disclaimer on the bottom of the SR login page stating not to buy BTC from people spamming the forum or anyone claiming to sell BTC cheaply via Credit card and paypal. Paypal offers no protection for digital transmitted goods, YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.

that will stop the market for the spammers
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: ValiantExplorer on October 31, 2012, 05:02 pm
Heh, good one owenk. I agree that SR could help change some minds. But then again, I don't see many politicians doing some MDMA to understand a bit more of themselves and the world. However, it's a matter of time until we, the users of SR, will hold more power on the world than them. They're dying. I'm good with that :D.

Unfortunately, as always, there will be THE FEW who will fuck it up for the many. In this case, people who abuse substances and damage themselves or the ones around them. First, we'll have to solve THAT issue. When there's going to be a license that you're smart enough to take substances or to vote, the world might advance a bit.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: CoolGrey on October 31, 2012, 05:06 pm
the problem can easily be fixed: 2prong attack.

Make a Captcha for every post if you have less than 30 posts.

Write a disclaimer on the bottom of the SR login page stating not to buy BTC from people spamming the forum or anyone claiming to sell BTC cheaply via Credit card and paypal. Paypal offers no protection for digital transmitted goods, YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.

that will stop the market for the spammers
I want to echo that. All good points sir. There are many precautions that could be taken to prevent spamming.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: Virmo on October 31, 2012, 09:24 pm
the problem can easily be fixed: 2prong attack.

Make a Captcha for every post if you have less than 30 posts.

Write a disclaimer on the bottom of the SR login page stating not to buy BTC from people spamming the forum or anyone claiming to sell BTC cheaply via Credit card and paypal. Paypal offers no protection for digital transmitted goods, YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.

that will stop the market for the spammers
I want to echo that. All good points sir. There are many precautions that could be taken to prevent spamming.

Me 2.
Not sure about the 30 posts thing.
Eventually every solution will work temporarily. Spambots can read captcha's and now there are some that I as a human being can't read :/

I am still voting for myself to be a mod someday on SR. But lately I'm fucking things up too much for myself in discussions on the forum.
Goes against my intention to help out SR.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: alan smithee on October 31, 2012, 11:05 pm
Quote
Spambots can read captcha's and now there are some that I as a human being can't read :/

oh shit, Virmo is a spambot and he doesnt know, who is going to break the news to him?
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: Virmo on November 01, 2012, 04:09 am
You need to learn how to read my friend. I said I am a human being.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: PrincessHIGH on November 01, 2012, 08:21 pm
give us a report button so that after 5 reports it is auto hidden until a mod approves it.

There is already a report button, there is a link at the bottom right hand corner of every post that says 'Report to moderator' These spambots will not detriment this forums reputation, this forum is a special and unique place, and I'm certain there's others that agree with me. The spam bots are an irritating nuisance but they'll never stop me coming here. If you research these spammers, they are spamming many other forums, this is a widespread spamming and scamming operation. To be fair, the Spam Busters and some of the Global Moderators here are dealing with it much more efficiently then the other forums they are spamming on (some of the forums I saw the spam has been left there for days on end!). The people that fall victim to btkoin and their other guises, I hope very few are stupid enough to fall for such a scam, pages of spam across all the discussion fourms written by spam bots using random usernames that aren't proper words such as 'yhrtujytri65', if people fall such an obvious scam, I do feel sorry for them, but they should have been more vigilant, the scam is very obvious. Follow this post to keep your inbox spam free http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=52370 as for the spamming on the boards, let's hope DPR and the Administrators come up with a suitable solution in the very near future, and this never ends, long live the Silk Road forums! :)
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: ValiantExplorer on November 01, 2012, 09:18 pm
As the OP said, he picked a dramatic title, for the effect :D.

@Virmo: LOL :).
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: alan smithee on November 01, 2012, 10:16 pm
You need to learn how to read my friend. I said I am a human being.


I know what you said, I was suggesting that you only thought you were human but were in fact a spambot, you just had not realised it.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: morphineman on November 02, 2012, 12:35 am
please do not post so many threads in the product offers section, the section is already too cluttered

please make one thread for your business and update that thread with your offers

thank you THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT TO ME BY MICRORNA
THIS IS THE MESSAGE I RECEIVED TODAY. IM A NEW VENDOR I PLACED 20 POST IN TOTAL IN FORUMS . AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY I PLACED WHO IS HIS PERSON TO TELL ME HOW TO RUN MY NEW BUSINESS. I WANT TO KNOW FROM SR.  IS THIS COMMON PRACTICE TO TELL VENDORS THIS . I PAID FOR A VENDOR SITE. PEOPLE PUT HUNDREDS OF POSTS ON SR AND DO NOT OWN A VENDOR SITE, WHAT IS GOING ON. IM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO HERE FROM WHOEVER RUNS THIS SITE AS TO WHY I WOULD BE GIVEN THIS REDICULAS MESSAGE, I WILL CONTINUE TO PLACE MESSAGES ON THE FORUM AS I  SEE FIT. I WOULD THINK THT WITH ALL THE SPAM MESSAGES ON THIS SITE THE MODERATORS OR WHOEVER SENT THIS MESSAGE HAS BETTER TIME ON THEIR HANDS THAN TO COMPLAIN TO A PAID IN FULL MEMBER OF SR THAN TO DEAL WITH NON MEMB3ERS WHO ARE CONSTANTLY PLACING ADDS AND INFO ON THE FORUM.
Title: Re: The end of Silk Road forums
Post by: GiveUsSome on November 02, 2012, 01:18 am
please do not post so many threads in the product offers section, the section is already too cluttered

please make one thread for your business and update that thread with your offers

thank you THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT TO ME BY MICRORNA
THIS IS THE MESSAGE I RECEIVED TODAY. IM A NEW VENDOR I PLACED 20 POST IN TOTAL IN FORUMS . AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY I PLACED WHO IS HIS PERSON TO TELL ME HOW TO RUN MY NEW BUSINESS. I WANT TO KNOW FROM SR.  IS THIS COMMON PRACTICE TO TELL VENDORS THIS . I PAID FOR A VENDOR SITE. PEOPLE PUT HUNDREDS OF POSTS ON SR AND DO NOT OWN A VENDOR SITE, WHAT IS GOING ON. IM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO HERE FROM WHOEVER RUNS THIS SITE AS TO WHY I WOULD BE GIVEN THIS REDICULAS MESSAGE, I WILL CONTINUE TO PLACE MESSAGES ON THE FORUM AS I  SEE FIT. I WOULD THINK THT WITH ALL THE SPAM MESSAGES ON THIS SITE THE MODERATORS OR WHOEVER SENT THIS MESSAGE HAS BETTER TIME ON THEIR HANDS THAN TO COMPLAIN TO A PAID IN FULL MEMBER OF SR THAN TO DEAL WITH NON MEMB3ERS WHO ARE CONSTANTLY PLACING ADDS AND INFO ON THE FORUM.

I think you should work with the system and not bitch so much.

this type of complaining will make you lose favour with alot of users. People like their vendors to be civil & business like.