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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: MedGuad on December 08, 2011, 08:19 pm
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Hi I have a quick question regarding LSD vs DMT. I have recently done some very good LSD and had a great time. There toward the end of the trip though was a bit rough but after smoking some AK47 trees I was soundly sleeping approximately 12 hours after dropping (ended up doing about 240ug according to seller). Felt pretty good the next day.
Now I've NEVER done DMT but am very anxious to try to it. My question is how similar are the two (if at all). Is it easier to come down from? Are the hallucinations pretty overwhelming? How long does it last? Does it affect you emotionally afterwards?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm going to start researching it, but I wanted to talk to the experts :) DMT will definitely be my next purchase on here.
Thank you all!
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Depends on your method of use.
For smoking DMT the onset is about a minute, the whole thing lasts about 15-20 minutes with some after-effects lasting about 30-40minutes.
If you 'break through' with DMT it can be, at least from my experience, quite profound and emotional. But mostly it's just batshit insane hallucination. It kind of depends on how you can control the trip. It takes some experience.
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When you say 'break through' do you mean inject? Not that interested in injecting.
Thanks for the advice!
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Haven't tried DMT myself, am looking forward to doing it myself as well...
And for what I've learned about it is that... Really no drugs can be compared...
DMT has much shorter but much more intense effects (again, no personal experience) then does LSD. DMT's plateau effects take like 5-15 minutes, and all effects are gone in about an hour or so.
I often read stuff about people passing out, only to find their consciousness is being blasted to another dimension, which the person before me described as breaking through.
Come down is lot easier with DMT I think, although it can be difficult to integrate the whole experience. DMT itself is broken down very quickly by MAO, which is the main reason you smoke it, and can't eat (unless combined with MAOI's, but that stuff is risky for as far as I know).
So, while they are both psychedelics, they are very different substances indeed! But again, no personal experience with DMT yet...
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Some people have a hard time actually dosing with DMT via smoking, and the 'breakthrough' I'm talking about is this difficulty.
I've smoked DMT dozen times or so, and I didn't really 'breakthrough' and have it hit me real hard until my second or third dose.
The oral route with an MAOI [need this or it does nothing--MAOI can cause great bodyload] provided more consistent results for me--but it really depends on your weight. I was at about 200lbs and 50-60mg was a strong dose.
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Before you smoke it try googling "dmt machine" and find instructions for making The Machine dmt pipe out of a hennesey bottle. Looks like a winner and I think I would try it that way for maximum smoking results.
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i just tried N,N-DMT last night for the first time and found the effects very overwhelming and strange, the open eye visuals were incredible never seen any thing that beautiful (kaleidoscope/tapestry effect) on acid, Also i think you cant really compare smoking dmt to dropping acid, maybe if i had eaten the DMT with an MAOI so the method of administration was the same you could compare the two. i think the real magic will come when smoking DMT while on LSD! lol
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i just tried N,N-DMT last night for the first time and found the effects very overwhelming and strange, the open eye visuals were incredible never seen any thing that beautiful (kaleidoscope/tapestry effect) on acid, Also i think you cant really compare smoking dmt to dropping acid, maybe if i had eaten the DMT with an MAOI so the method of administration was the same you could compare the two. i think the real magic will come when smoking DMT while on LSD! lol
You're right, they're really quite different. I'm sorry if my post sounded like I meant they were similar.
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I can say I have done many many UG's of LSD at one time. Ive also smoked a lot of DMT
DMT is a quick high, Very quick! almost before you exhale. You will be propelled "out there" or "breakthrough" The only thing with DMT is it only last a few minutes. If its extracted with or mixed with a MAOI then it will last a little longer. That can be a good thing or bad thing depending on the person and how much was smoked :)
LSD is a lengthy and it comes in "waves" But you already know that.
I would say DMT is worth trying at least once before you die. It can be much different then LSD depending on how much is ingested.
Of course you can also do both together. I have done this a few times... Its going to put you WAY OUT THERE! for about 15 minutes. you cant get any higher unless you strap a rocket to your back! believe that.
Personally, the older I get, the less I crave or have a desire to do such extreme "phycos" .
But its worth doing at least once :)
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I like DMT a lot, but only done it a handful of times I just remember it had a nice smooth sweet but rubbery taste that was the best bit. My trip was short and flirted on the edges of very intense - but haven't tried the stuff that's offered here. Pretty keen to do so might tip me to the next level.
I just don't like the LSD come down paranoia - ive done it a lot like a lot a lot. Now matter how experienced you are or how good it is all it take is your mind to catch onto one paranoid thread of thought (pretty easy after 8 of not sleeping and jumping around) and its where the hell did i put the Valium geez will this end please ! - thats the only bad thing about it but its a big a pretty big minus.... and the paranoia seems to me to become trapped in your sub-conscious can be for days even weeks afterwards - like a psychotic break but i'm not into Psychiatric mumbo jumbo applied to LSD problems (which does more harm then good in a lot of cases) - Its more that you've caught spiritual flu, from the trip.
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Thank you all for the advice. Like most of you, I didn't like the long come down from LSD. I enjoyed the experience, until around the end.
DMT sounds exactly what I would love to try. How exactly do you take it? I usually smoke trees and have some pipes and a MFLB for vaporizing trees. Will I be able to just sprinkle it on to it?
Thanks again!
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i used both a free base pipe and and a bong with dmt sandweged between, i found the bong hit blasted me away, but i was hard to smoke enough in my gp its a bit broken.
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Have done acid a couple of times and I just tried DMT.
I think there different animals. Dmt had more of what I describe as a winning feeling while acid is like going back into childhood.
If i had to pick one or the other it would probably be dmt because I'd have the time to enjoy it more often.
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Emotionally, in the 30-60 seconds totally coming down from the dimitri, you will feel absolutely blown away, and lost for words, filled with the most profoundly strong energy, feeling reborn, feeling no negativity towards a thing in the world (unless your experience is unpleasant) (everyone has their preferred dosage, and finding that can put you right where you want to be usually).
I personally have a ritual.
-Build a nest out of pillows and blankets
-Adjust the lights to a nice dim level (I have christmas lights in my room , and they set me in a very comfortable mindstate.:)
-Put on some pleasant, relaxing or psychedelic music
-Sit in my nest, and rip the steamroller.. (my piece of choice)
-Lay back and drift into the realm of infinite transcendence and possibility.