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Title: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: metropolitancow on April 01, 2012, 12:07 pm
Didn't think this qualified as an [intel] post but I spent some time looking in legislation and was finding it a pain to get clear definition on my States' personal usage amounts. I stumbled across this review paper, current as of Aug 2011, and it contains a lot of relevant information so I thought I'd share. People need to be aware that the implications for prosecutions above these amounts scale sharply, and regulate their purchases accordingly. Note also the differences between pure amount thresholds and total. And man oh man is Tas whack!

http://www.dpmp.unsw.edu.au/DPMPWeb.nsf/resources/BULLETIN4/$file/DPMP+Bulletin+18+updated.pdf

Table 1: Thresholds for trafficable quantities of heroin, cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine and MDMA, by drug type and jurisdiction
1 Based on pure drug (excluding inert material).
Jurisdiction: Heroin Cocaine Amphetamine Meth-amphetamine MDMA
Vic1:               3g          3g                   3g             3g                      3g
Qld1               2g          2g                   2g             2g                      2g
ACT1              2g          2g                   2g             2g                      0.5
Tas               25g        25g                 25g           25g                    25g
NSW             3g           3g                   3g             3g                    0.75
SA                 2g           2g                   2g             2g                    0.5g
WA                2g          2g                   2g             2g                      2g
NT                 2g           2g                   2g             2g                    0.5g

Table 2 covers cannabis but I cbf formatting it, read the paper.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: ultroping2435 on April 01, 2012, 03:02 pm
I should probably lay off those 3.5g meth orders...
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: mungingout on April 01, 2012, 03:12 pm
Fuck you Tasmania, that is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: mdmafx on April 03, 2012, 09:57 am
I read a few articles in the newspaper today talking about how we have lost the war on drugs in Australia. It Looks like most other states will be moving in the same direction as Tassie at some point...
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: Chopperos on April 03, 2012, 11:29 am
NSW 0.75g threshold for MDMA is derisory and out of touch with the risk and the product itself.

Essentially its sending the message that its safer legally to possess, use and deal Heroin.  tut tut.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: qrbr6 on April 03, 2012, 12:26 pm
Well fuck now I'm scared to order.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: PePinJeNek on April 06, 2012, 08:37 am
Well in WA is definitely 4g for Meth
since Cousins got arrested with 4,5 in
his butholio at the airport on the way to rehab.
And he was going to get done as dealer because
it was over 4g .

Geeze Tas seems the place to be...

Peace
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on April 10, 2012, 10:56 am
I'm fucking moving to tassie!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 20, 2012, 03:08 pm
Yeah i got arrested at Esperance Airport on the way to rehab with 3.5 grams in the shaft and there trying to charge me with trafficking!
Cunts
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 20, 2012, 03:18 pm
Yeah i got arrested at Esperance Airport on the way to rehab with 3.5 grams in the shaft and there trying to charge me with trafficking!
Cunts

Really? I wouldn't worry about that mate...

If you really are Ben Cousins (ROFL) I'd be more concerned with growing some brains!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: Mishrume on June 20, 2012, 03:25 pm
Cheers for the info MetroCow  8) I'd +1 ya if i could  :P
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: collarbones on June 20, 2012, 03:27 pm
Thanks for this information metro, very helpful.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: thguardstgeorge on June 20, 2012, 04:09 pm
Thanks a lot mate, I am booking my tickets to Tasmania as we speak :P

But seriously this is a good info and would be of interest to many people on here +1
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: LeisureLass on June 20, 2012, 04:58 pm
Didn't think this qualified as an [intel] post but I spent some time looking in legislation and was finding it a pain to get clear definition on my States' personal usage amounts. I stumbled across this review paper, current as of Aug 2011, and it contains a lot of relevant information so I thought I'd share. People need to be aware that the implications for prosecutions above these amounts scale sharply, and regulate their purchases accordingly. Note also the differences between pure amount thresholds and total. And man oh man is Tas whack!

http://www.dpmp.unsw.edu.au/DPMPWeb.nsf/resources/BULLETIN4/$file/DPMP+Bulletin+18+updated.pdf

Table 1: Thresholds for trafficable quantities of heroin, cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine and MDMA, by drug type and jurisdiction
1 Based on pure drug (excluding inert material).
Jurisdiction: Heroin Cocaine Amphetamine Meth-amphetamine MDMA
Vic1:               3g          3g                   3g             3g                      3g
Qld1               2g          2g                   2g             2g                      2g
ACT1              2g          2g                   2g             2g                      0.5
Tas               25g        25g                 25g           25g                    25g
NSW             3g           3g                   3g             3g                    0.75
SA                 2g           2g                   2g             2g                    0.5g
WA                2g          2g                   2g             2g                      2g
NT                 2g           2g                   2g             2g                    0.5g

Table 2 covers cannabis but I cbf formatting it, read the paper.

I can't speak for other states, but for Vic as I understand it, the 3g for MDMA is for both pure and mixed amounts because of Table 3 in Schedule 11 of the Act.  There's 2 columns, which the Law Handbook says the second column is for 'mixed' amounts even though both columns say 'pure' underneath them.  I guess this just stops lengthy arguments when the amount is near the edge.

According to the Law Handbook, drugs in powder form are no longer weighed in pure amounts. The relevant weight is now the weight of the whole mixture, including substances other than the drug. This table shows the traffickable quantities of common drugs (from the legislation):

(http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/thumbs/f86c1561b8e35762d11e72eda15abd8e.png) (http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=f86c1561b8e35762d11e72eda15abd8e.png)

I'm not sure, but I'm assuming the 0.75 'small' amount - anything under this won't result in any sort of conviction?  i.e. they have some no-conviction-drug-diversion program thing to stop small users having their lives ruined by a drug conviction.

The 3g does not automatically mean you get a conviction for trafficking - it means a prima facie case so that the burden of proof shifts to you to show that you had no intention to traffic.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: thguardstgeorge on June 20, 2012, 05:01 pm
Cheers for the updated info LeisureLass, could save some people in Vic some major legal headaches
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: LeisureLass on June 21, 2012, 02:27 am
I updated my update to give more info.  But IANAL, so don't count on my research ::)  Hope it helps a bit though.  I have a feeling they deliberately make the rules confusing or maybe it's just my drug addled brain but the legislation is a bitch to read.  :o
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 21, 2012, 03:03 am
because every paragraph is contradicted by another halfway down the page.
need to be a methhead to keep up with that shit + all the amendments ::)

So you'd be right up to date and waiting for more info huh?
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: thguardstgeorge on June 21, 2012, 06:03 am
because every paragraph is contradicted by another halfway down the page.
need to be a methhead to keep up with that shit + all the amendments ::)

haha so true
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 21, 2012, 12:37 pm
Yeah i got arrested at Esperance Airport on the way to rehab with 3.5 grams in the shaft and there trying to charge me with trafficking!
Cunts

So when's your next book coming out?  ::)



Soon. It's going to be Titled "Rehabs for Quitters"
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 21, 2012, 12:55 pm
I think there's a lonely dude, sitting on his PC, trolling the forums as people he wishes he was...

Julia Gillard & Ben Cousins = Same person, with serious identity issues.

If I'm wrong, fair enough, but my spidey senses are tingling...
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 21, 2012, 01:44 pm
I think there's a lonely dude, sitting on his PC, trolling the forums as people he wishes he was...

Julia Gillard & Ben Cousins = Same person, with serious identity issues.

If I'm wrong, fair enough, but my spidey senses are tingling...

lol your wrong
or maybe im saying that to make you think i am to put you off the trail ;)
anyway i dont see why you would think im trolling
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: LeisureLass on June 21, 2012, 02:22 pm
I think there's a lonely dude, sitting on his PC, trolling the forums as people he wishes he was...

Julia Gillard & Ben Cousins = Same person, with serious identity issues.

If I'm wrong, fair enough, but my spidey senses are tingling...

lol your wrong
or maybe im saying that to make you think i am to put you off the trail ;)
anyway i dont see why you would think im trolling

Stop this right now.   >:(

I'm quite happy fantasising you are the real Benny.  With the real Benny's abs.  Looking all cut and bad boy and Benny and stuff.

Oops.  Sorry.  Just me? ::)

Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 21, 2012, 03:30 pm
I think Jims fantasizing about Julia
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: Mishrume on June 21, 2012, 05:20 pm
Gillard is here? This i gotta see! I can understand Ben 'the meth vacuum' Cousins being here, but Goolard  :o Haha no wonder she's so fucked up! I swear that cunt's on heroin!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JuliaGillard on June 21, 2012, 11:46 pm
Well I am absolutely pleased that you all find me so amusing and I'm being spoken of less than 24 hours of becoming a member, but let me just clarify something by stating I have NO affiliation with the above 'BenCousins'. I'm sure Ben has his own agendas for being here, but they are separate from mine. Please keep offensive language to a minimal where possible, thank you.

Weather, Canberra, TODAY:
Rain, 2-10'C, rug up!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 22, 2012, 12:22 pm
Well I am absolutely pleased that you all find me so amusing and I'm being spoken of less than 24 hours of becoming a member, but let me just clarify something by stating I have NO affiliation with the above 'BenCousins'. I'm sure Ben has his own agendas for being here, but they are separate from mine. Please keep offensive language to a minimal where possible, thank you.

Weather, Canberra, TODAY:
Rain, 2-10'C, rug up!

Julia when are you going to decriminalise drugs so that i can have a couple of pipes in rehab without being vilified?
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: mrk on June 22, 2012, 03:03 pm
Thanks

Anyone have any info on magic mushroom laws?
Can never seem to find info on them.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 25, 2012, 03:28 pm
Gone to hell... Thank fuck for the Ignore button!!!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 26, 2012, 11:37 am
The day came months ago when I had that reciprocal bullshit barrage from Zigger and The Terrapin... Just can't bring myself to ignore Shitty or Phoffy... Too much amusement to be had!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 27, 2012, 04:34 am
Unsure, but I think it becomes a federal when you're traffiking across borders... Shit-tits should know, he just got out of a 3 year stint in Goulburn, for moving 50k disco beans from brisbane to melbourne by rickshaw!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: JimPooley on June 27, 2012, 05:25 am
YAY... I got something right!!!!


PARTY!!! I'm shouting cones!!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 27, 2012, 08:47 am
only $800 fine and no conviction if you try selling shardz in rehab. pipe time!
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: PaulMuadDib on June 27, 2012, 12:59 pm
^ Love your Moniker Dude, only Aussie footy fans would get into in....I lol every time I see it "launch into and annihilate as much drugs as i can"
 
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: PaulMuadDib on June 27, 2012, 01:06 pm
Found the link for any foreigners looking in on this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GFrLVK0OQ
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: PaulMuadDib on June 27, 2012, 04:16 pm
Seriously though does anyone know the how much LSD one would have to import into any AUS state to be considered a commercial trafficker?.....Can't seem to find info anywhere.....
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: deliric on June 27, 2012, 04:34 pm
Tas               25g        25g                 25g           25g                    25g

Tasmania, lol.
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 27, 2012, 07:34 pm
only $800 fine and no conviction if you try selling shardz in rehab. pipe time!

were you listening to a lot of 2pac when you decided to get that such is life tatt?

nah mate Ned Kelly was on tv after a big 4 nights on the go so i though "fuck cunt, inspirational stuff"

Im off to tassie
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 28, 2012, 04:38 am
there daughters will love me. they aint ever seen a body like this with just one head
Title: Re: Threshold Possessions in AU by state
Post by: BenCousins on June 28, 2012, 05:02 am
Good idea maybe it open up i can hide drugs in there. Sure beats stuicking it up me arse again.....and they still found it. Cant a man just have a 5 day bender in peace