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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: flashlight5 on August 10, 2013, 10:04 pm
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lets say you get a gram of whatever substance. lets say you trust the vendor, that this is actually 1.0 or even 1.1.
lets say you don't have a scale and don't want to get one.
any1 experience with that "cutting in half" over and over again thing?
thanks!
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I've heard a lot of people use volumetric dosage when in such a situation. The idea is you dissolve a known amount of drug into a known volume of alcohol or other liquid. You then work out the amount of solution to take using some basic math. Much to measure 5ml than 1mg or w/e
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I've heard a lot of people use volumetric dosage when in such a situation. The idea is you dissolve a known amount of drug into a known volume of alcohol or other liquid. You then work out the amount of solution to take using some basic math. Much to measure 5ml than 1mg or w/e
WTF. just snort it or eat it and see how you feel.
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WTF. just snort it or eat it and see how you feel.
Maybe fine to do with a lot of stuff, but this is a recipe for a bad time with some RCs.
What are you working with OP?
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If you can't figure out how to dose something before getting it, you shouldn't have it in the first place.
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I've heard a lot of people use volumetric dosage when in such a situation. The idea is you dissolve a known amount of drug into a known volume of alcohol or other liquid. You then work out the amount of solution to take using some basic math. Much to measure 5ml than 1mg or w/e
WTF. just snort it or eat it and see how you feel.
Ummmm... sure this forum is called drug safety. ::)
You can get away with that with some drugs, but not all of them. Knowing how to dose your drug of choice well, brings lots of benefits. It reduces any harmful side effects, negative effects normally increase with dose. And it's cost effective, you get the most out of your stash using the amount that gets the most effects.
You don't say which substance you want to take. But If you are mentioning a scale, my guess is that you already know that this substance needs to be measured correctly. Otherwise why ask?
Volumetric, as fiveotwo, suggests is a good way of working out a dose without a scale. Still you have to know what solvent to use water etc. Still have to be careful, make sure your calculations are accurate. And better to be 1:1 with your ratio. Then any inaccuracies in the guess of the starting dose aren't magnified.
Eyeballing can work, again depends on the drug. Splitting coke into equal lines isn't going cause many problems if lines are slightly unequal. With an RC or a 2C drug, 1mg can be the difference between great and not so great.
What is it that you can't wait to take? ;)
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Dude get a scale... dosing without a scale is so unsafe...
What if your vendor hooked it up with a gram extra?
This is coming from someone who brought molly in half grams to a festival to sell for 35 to 40 dollars
I told people to eat less than half the bag or to share it with 2 other friends
A girl ended up in the hospital that night because she ate "maybe a little more than half the bag"
.1's all day for easy dosing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
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we talking 2cs and dmt.
if 1mg is that important i will need a really good scale. and since i don't like to have stuff like that around, i will have to throw it away or bury it some place after using it once.
putting all the 2cs in alc might be good. since i don't know what dose will be good for me ill start very small anyways. then i can judge the dose easily from the the first experience and take a number of drops needed.
i just get a bottle with alc from the pharmacy and put the powder in there?
since that won't work with dmt... i have not heard that overdosing by a bit is that much of a deal here. i mean, starting out slow of course.
thanks guys
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we talking 2cs and dmt.
if 1mg is that important i will need a really good scale. and since i don't like to have stuff like that around, i will have to throw it away or bury it some place after using it once.
putting all the 2cs in alc might be good. since i don't know what dose will be good for me ill start very small anyways. then i can judge the dose easily from the the first experience and take a number of drops needed.
i just get a bottle with alc from the pharmacy and put the powder in there?
since that won't work with dmt... i have not heard that overdosing by a bit is that much of a deal here. i mean, starting out slow of course.
thanks guys
OK, well be very careful with 2Cs. The dose response curve isn't linear, it may only take a few MGs to have a hugely different experience. And each person is different. So 30 mg of 2C-B may be ok for you but not for me.
I also worry when people equate overdose with death. You can overdose on DMT or any psychedelic, by having a overwhelming experience that fucks you up mentally. Also there is danger of being sick with high doses, while you are in another world. You should always try to reduce your harms when taking any drug.
Not measuring out 2Cs and even DMT could have consequences.
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right, 2c-x's can be eyeballed, but you need to be extremely careful. It helps to have a visual representation of what something close to 20mg looks like, and unfortunately, you really need a scale to get that.
If you're going to be experimenting with these substances, you should really just hop on to Amazon and buy a cheap AWS mg scale. They're something like $25. Probably off by +/- 5mg, which sounds like a lot, but I've used one for everything from heroin to 4-aco-dmt to diazepam to 2c-b and never unintentionally overdosed.
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just checked amazon.
maybe will get a scale (not on there of course)
you know the function, when amazon suggests other products customers bought with that product you are looking at?
its gelatine capsules and zip lock baggies.
people are so dumb, its not even funny.
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we talking 2cs and dmt.
if 1mg is that important i will need a really good scale. and since i don't like to have stuff like that around, i will have to throw it away or bury it some place after using it once.
putting all the 2cs in alc might be good. since i don't know what dose will be good for me ill start very small anyways. then i can judge the dose easily from the the first experience and take a number of drops needed.
i just get a bottle with alc from the pharmacy and put the powder in there?
since that won't work with dmt... i have not heard that overdosing by a bit is that much of a deal here. i mean, starting out slow of course.
thanks guys
OK, well be very careful with 2Cs. The dose response curve isn't linear, it may only take a few MGs to have a hugely different experience. And each person is different. So 30 mg of 2C-B may be ok for you but not for me.
I also worry when people equate overdose with death. You can overdose on DMT or any psychedelic, by having a overwhelming experience that fucks you up mentally. Also there is danger of being sick with high doses, while you are in another world. You should always try to reduce your harms when taking any drug.
Not measuring out 2Cs and even DMT could have consequences.
+1
Just spent $60 on a mg scale, after some wild DMT times
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we talking 2cs and dmt.
if 1mg is that important i will need a really good scale. and since i don't like to have stuff like that around, i will have to throw it away or bury it some place after using it once.
putting all the 2cs in alc might be good. since i don't know what dose will be good for me ill start very small anyways. then i can judge the dose easily from the the first experience and take a number of drops needed.
i just get a bottle with alc from the pharmacy and put the powder in there?
since that won't work with dmt... i have not heard that overdosing by a bit is that much of a deal here. i mean, starting out slow of course.
thanks guys
OK, well be very careful with 2Cs. The dose response curve isn't linear, it may only take a few MGs to have a hugely different experience. And each person is different. So 30 mg of 2C-B may be ok for you but not for me.
I also worry when people equate overdose with death. You can overdose on DMT or any psychedelic, by having a overwhelming experience that fucks you up mentally. Also there is danger of being sick with high doses, while you are in another world. You should always try to reduce your harms when taking any drug.
Not measuring out 2Cs and even DMT could have consequences.
+1
Just spent $60 on a mg scale, after some wild DMT times
what's the best scale to buy to scale out points and milligrams
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yeah dude seriously...just go and get a scale from amazon or from your local head-shop....they don't cost more than $15-$25...you'll be thanking us later...
Mr.Black
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just checked amazon.
maybe will get a scale (not on there of course)
you know the function, when amazon suggests other products customers bought with that product you are looking at?
its gelatine capsules and zip lock baggies.
people are so dumb, its not even funny.
The capsules are actually legit because people like making DIY supplements. The baggies? Well, they need to keep their supplements in something small while traveling. ::)
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just buy some scales.
BUT NOT THE ABSOLUTE CHEAPEST
cos then you get some shitty ones like i have that depending on what ur placing your product on will show no measurements
o and get calibration weights
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what's the best scale to buy to scale out points and milligrams
I spent $70 in a headshop on 0.001g scales with calibration weights. Perfect DMT doses every time.