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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: tommygun on November 11, 2012, 02:03 am
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Just curious, after spending a lot of time reading forums I haven't seen many posts on what not to mix, seems like some people will mix just about anything (or space it out over time). Anything anyone would not recommend doing based on a bad experience (or knowing someone). Every Body is different but interesting to see if there's a consensus on "never mix this with that"
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tramadol with real opiates (made me so sicl) and the other horrible mixing experience i had was surprising seroquel and high grade marijuana. It literally paralyzed me for days very very scary experience
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For me, I have found that I can smoke week after taking hydrocodone but not after oxycodone, no clue why but oxycodone makes me sick as shit if I smoke after.
Side note- can you mix different opiates orally like hydrocodone and oxycodone?
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benzos and opiates
imparticular xanax and methadone, is an easy way to end up taking a dirt nap
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Any reason why and are you talking in higher doses? I have combo'd xanex and prescription but like 1mg xanex and 10mg hydrocodone or something.
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From a safety standpoint,
The list of drugs that are dangerous to mix is innumerable. You should always do your research on whatever drugs you have, what not to mix with them, the risks associated with mixing two particular drugs, and always, ALWAYS, take it easy when mixing two drugs.
From a 'feeling' standpoint, that's much more subjective and up for debate.
Personally, I hate taking pretty much anything when I'm hung over, except for obviously benzo's.
Hate weed and opiates, it makes me fall asleep and waste the high.
I guess I don't really see the point in hallucinogens and alcohol, but other than that, I can't think of much I wouldn't try mixing, assuming I like each drug individually.
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Ecstasy and Ketamine
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Ecstasy and Ketamine
Seriously dude ? Mdma and ketamine is soo good !
You had a bad trip with mdma and ketamine ?
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Mixing 2 (or more) drugs essentially creates an entirely new drug, whose effects may bear to relation to that of the other drugs taken individually.
Unless you have a lot of info about others experiences of that drug combo best advice is to not try combining drugs.
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GHB/GBL with alcohol is the one that I have consistently seen people get sick on.
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Mixing respiratory depressing agents together can cause serious medical complications. Avoid mixing any of the following with each other:
- Opioids
- Barbituates
- Benzos
- Alcohol
- GHB
- Dissociatives
- Gabapentin
- Any other respiratory depressant or GABA agonist or NMDA antagonist
Avoid taking the following drugs while on barbs, benzos, GHB, and alcohol, because they can have nasty effects on your stomach or liver, or they can contribute to heart failure:
- Aspirin
- Ibuprofen
- Naproxen
- Acetaminophen
- NSAIDs in general
- Blood thinners or other anticoagulant drugs
- Anti-emetic drugs such as dramamine, benadryl (diphenhydramine), and ondansetron... in case you need to purge to avoid toxicity.
Stimulants are vasoconstrictive. Avoid taking the following while on any stimulant such as amphetamine, methylphenidate, MDMA, or cocaine:
- Antihistamines
- Nicotine
- Caffeine
- Marijuana
- NSAIDs, although a low dose of aspirin (81mg) is fine and could help prevent a heart attack in general
- High doses of alcohol (more than a few drinks)
- Anything vasoconstrictive
- Anything (else) serotonergenic
Avoid taking the following while on any serotonergenic drug, such as MDA, MDMA, Mephedrone, Methylone, or DXM:
- 5-HTP
- St. John's Wort
- Tryptophan, to a lesser degree
- DXM, while on any other serotonergenic drug
- Any SSRI, such as Prozac, Zoloft, or Lexapro
- Any antipsychotic, such as Seroquel
- Antihistamines
- Any (other) stimulant
- Anything vasoconstrictive
Generally, avoid mixing drugs, besides in combinations that have been well-studied and well-tested, such as psychedelics and marijuana, or LSD and MDMA. Read the Erowid experience vaults to find out what sort of combinations have worked well and which haven't - if you see any bad experiences, don't try it!
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thanks for the post poolsclosed! That gonna be a tough first category to not mix...
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I forgot to add that mixing (meth)amphetamine and MDMA makes MDMA neurotoxic (it normally isn't in normal recreational doses).
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Awesome post, poolsclosed.
The big one not to do is MDMA / Stimulants while on SSRI's. Brain death.
Erowid is an AMAZING resourse too, tommygun. Hit that up massively before trying anything.
One of the great combos I did discover via Shulgin / Erowid is MDMA + 2C-B. It's well documented and worth checking out.
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One of the great combos I did discover via Shulgin / Erowid is MDMA + 2C-B. It's well documented and worth checking out.
Would MDMA + 25b have similar effects?
I've never tried 2C-B or 25b.
I could be wrong, but I believe 25b is vasoconstrictive, is 2C-B also vasoconstrictive?
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Ambein (or any other benzo really) with alcohol. FaceTimed a friend of mine while passed out on the combo. The problem was that SHE was drunk as well so she only remembers ONE part of the conversation, I have no idea what we have talked about. Never again.
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Best not to mix any 5-meo tryptamine with any other amines especially stimulants
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Where would I look in erowid for combo info, just under the drug itself?
I'ts erowid.org right?
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Where would I look in erowid for combo info, just under the drug itself?
I'ts erowid.org right?
Just look in the experience reports area there is a section for combos, If nobody has put up a report for it look in basics to see if any bad combinations listed. If nothing is listed than search for the combo in forums.
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Oh wow, this is "scared straight" kind of stuff.. thanks.. I think lol :)
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One of the great combos I did discover via Shulgin / Erowid is MDMA + 2C-B. It's well documented and worth checking out.
Would MDMA + 25b have similar effects?
I've never tried 2C-B or 25b.
I could be wrong, but I believe 25b is vasoconstrictive, is 2C-B also vasoconstrictive?
Most people get stimulated by PEAs, including the 2C-x family. The NBOMes are known to be more stimulating than their original forms.
I've never had 25B, but I highly recommend you pick up 2C-B. It's an incredible drug, full of things to teach you about yourself.
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Ambein (or any other benzo really) with alcohol. FaceTimed a friend of mine while passed out on the combo. The problem was that SHE was drunk as well so she only remembers ONE part of the conversation, I have no idea what we have talked about. Never again.
The combination of alcohol with benzos is interesting. In lower doses they can be very synergetic when you want the hypotic effect (down a valium with a glass of wine or two for a good nights sleep).
At higher doses problems do start to arise though. One of them is anterograde amnesia, which anyone that ever combined them is probably rather familiar with, and what happened in your example. This can be fairly odd, but is as such not overly dangerous.
At even higher doses it becomes dangerous due to respiratory depression however. It's not very common for people to simply die in their sleeping after having benzos and a few too many drinks, but it is a realistic risk. Upside is that it will probably be a rather painless death, passing out asleep one night simple not to wake up the next morning.
Poolsclosed has listed quite an extensive list of possibly problematic interactions, many of which could be quite probematic. On the other hand, plenty of people will take some benadryl after a bug bite, and have some drinks and cigs after, and vitually all of them survive doing that without a single adverse effect. Obviously its mostly a matter of dose - if you were to dissolve a jar of benadryl in a quart of liquor and drink that, you'd probably kill yourself, regardless if you have few cigarettes whilst downing that cocktail.
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Obviously its mostly a matter of dose - if you were to dissolve a jar of benadryl in a quart of liquor and drink that, you'd probably kill yourself, regardless if you have few cigarettes whilst downing that cocktail.
Very true! I have smoked cigarettes while on stimulants before and I am alive - but it's not healthy, I'll tell you that.
If it helps anyone, 5 grams of L-Arginine will act as a powerful vasodilator. I've used it very successfully with stimulants to keep my limbs circulating well... althought it won't stop a heart attack or anything like that.
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I know a lot of people will disagree, but I don't like MDMA and LSD. The high is OK but the LSD keeps me awake when the MDMA wants me to sleep making the comedown (and hangover) worse than it should be.
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Ecstasy and Ketamine
Seriously dude ? Mdma and ketamine is soo good !
You had a bad trip with mdma and ketamine ?
I've never actually tried the combo, although I heard it was dangerous. I could be confusing it with something else though...
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Synthetic cannabis + Alcohol = Knock you out. Synthetic cannabis itself is not recommended so with alcohol it's highly not recommended.
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Ordinary cannabis and alcohol do not mix that well either though. In dutch there is a word for this condition: "stronken", a mix between stoned and drunk that would probably equate to "strunk" in english.
It's rarely fatal, but people seriously lose any sense of where (or even who) they are whilst vomiting all over the place. I suppose that's what you get if both substances are legally and easily available, though its mostly a matter of over consumption of both ;)
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oxy, xanax, alcohol, and another xanax type of thing. Horrible. Stupid. First time I couldn't handle. Gross, fell down the stairs. Never again.
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Second for oxy and alcohol. I'd never done it before and a stupid newfie buddy that convince me should do oxy and have some drinks before hitting the bar. I promptly puked all over my shoes and then stayed up all night doing rails to make it go away (didn't work) almost fought a cab drive and a cop in the morning when I still hadn't sleep. Somehow also burned through $1200 in two days that I don't remember.
I mixing a bit of blooze with blow, and zopoclone tonight and it seems to very nice and mellow so far
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Ordinary cannabis and alcohol do not mix that well either though. In dutch there is a word for this condition: "stronken", a mix between stoned and drunk that would probably equate to "strunk" in english.
It's rarely fatal, but people seriously lose any sense of where (or even who) they are whilst vomiting all over the place. I suppose that's what you get if both substances are legally and easily available, though its mostly a matter of over consumption of both ;)
I got "stronken" a couple of times from synthetics + alcohol :o feels horrible... :-[ You get paralyzed and really really sick. Then you puke... :'(
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Sort of a recognizable thing... by the time clubs close there are often people throwing up, and lots of people that seem overly intoxicated yet keep their stomach content as it is. As far as i remember the majority of the people throwing up combined pot with booze, or just had a ridiculous amount of booze ;)
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Phenethylamine (PEA) and Selegiline or any other MAO-B active maois.
Its kinda like the energy and focus of an amphetamine combined with some of the mental clarity of MDMA.
and its a decent feeling but the come down is dirty and I had a bad hangover for about two days. in no way worth it =/
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Thank you, I'm flattered. Welcome to the forums mate. :)
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What does that mean? Maybe I'm getting too old lol..
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NO UPS & DOWNS AT THE SAME TIME! NO DOUBLE DOWNING, AS MENTIONED XANAX AND METHADONE FOR EXAMPLE.
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i mixed mdma and cocaine once. fell into the worst paranoid mind, to the point where i couldnt handle it and had to go home.
now its completely ruined my cocaine experience.
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How ironic, just read an article on yahoo today about a college kid that died off drinking and one oxy (sleeper death) suposedly/ Going to be more careful with opiates and benzos/ drinking...
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has anyone tried mixing mdma and speed?
i tend to find mdma makes me act like a retard (although i am having fun)
but would a small amount of speed straighten me out more?
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I don't know about 'straighten' you out . But it's def an ok mixture , in reasonable amounts. Think about it, lots of E hits from the ninetys where like 40% speed n shit lol, all the best.
-DB
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Mixing respiratory depressing agents together can cause serious medical complications. Avoid mixing any of the following with each other:
- Opioids
- Barbituates
- Benzos
- Alcohol
- GHB
- Dissociatives
- Gabapentin
- Any other respiratory depressant or GABA agonist or NMDA antagonist
Avoid taking the following drugs while on barbs, benzos, GHB, and alcohol, because they can have nasty effects on your stomach or liver, or they can contribute to heart failure:
- Aspirin
- Ibuprofen
- Naproxen
- Acetaminophen
- NSAIDs in general
- Blood thinners or other anticoagulant drugs
- Anti-emetic drugs such as dramamine, benadryl (diphenhydramine), and ondansetron... in case you need to purge to avoid toxicity.
Stimulants are vasoconstrictive. Avoid taking the following while on any stimulant such as amphetamine, methylphenidate, MDMA, or cocaine:
- Antihistamines
- Nicotine
- Caffeine
- Marijuana
- NSAIDs, although a low dose of aspirin (81mg) is fine and could help prevent a heart attack in general
- High doses of alcohol (more than a few drinks)
- Anything vasoconstrictive
- Anything (else) serotonergenic
Avoid taking the following while on any serotonergenic drug, such as MDA, MDMA, Mephedrone, Methylone, or DXM:
- 5-HTP
- St. John's Wort
- Tryptophan, to a lesser degree
- DXM, while on any other serotonergenic drug
- Any SSRI, such as Prozac, Zoloft, or Lexapro
- Any antipsychotic, such as Seroquel
- Antihistamines
- Any (other) stimulant
- Anything vasoconstrictive
Generally, avoid mixing drugs, besides in combinations that have been well-studied and well-tested, such as psychedelics and marijuana, or LSD and MDMA. Read the Erowid experience vaults to find out what sort of combinations have worked well and which haven't - if you see any bad experiences, don't try it!
+1 for this, spot on..... you'd be shocked to see the number of people (of all ages) is liver failure from mixing oral opiates and alcohol even... or alcohol and benzos and opiates. It's a daily occurrence, epidemic even.
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PCP and Datura had me doing some pretty crazy things..
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Meth and xanax? Anyone have any comments on this one? I'm not talking about the comedown. I'm talking about pre dosing with some xanax and then smoking some meth?
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Meth and xanax? Anyone have any comments on this one? I'm not talking about the comedown. I'm talking about pre dosing with some xanax and then smoking some meth?
That my pNoid, misinformed & silly friend...IS A HEART ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN. Do as you please, but when your heart STOPs one of those crazy ol' nights, dont say some one didnt tell you so!
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+1 @ Poolsclosed, For that guide line chart.
@ ACE, yyou got Dipss?? GET THEM ON THE ROAD MY MAN!
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Klonopin (pins) & Alcohol. A friend took about 2mg in pins and had alot to drink. Was fine while I was there but after I left he got in a car, drove halfway across town and the police found him asleep at the wheel. He remembers 3 significant events: The cops finding him in his car, waking up in the hospital, and then getting picked up from jail.
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True this. If you're combining any significant amount of alcohol and benzos you may as well just drink crazy blackout juice
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Meth and xanax? Anyone have any comments on this one? I'm not talking about the comedown. I'm talking about pre dosing with some xanax and then smoking some meth?
That my pNoid, misinformed & silly friend...IS A HEART ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN. Do as you please, but when your heart STOPs one of those crazy ol' nights, dont say some one didnt tell you so!
Could you be more specific? Is it because people tend to use more of each drug because they counter dict each other? For instance they smoke more meth because the xanax lowered the high? Then they take more xanax to take away from the tweakyness? This vague answer doesn't help me. Also, you didn't mention depending on dosage. I just find that mixing beznos and stimulants would be better than mixing opiates and stimulants.
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Meth and xanax? Anyone have any comments on this one? I'm not talking about the comedown. I'm talking about pre dosing with some xanax and then smoking some meth?
2mg Ativan IM or IV along with 1 or 2mg of haldol IM or IV are usually the dose for agitated delirium related to meth overdose and are usually repeated once if they still haven't calmed down a couple hours later - I'd go for those Oral ahead of time if I were you but I suppose xanax is a decent alternative (xanax, valium, etc). Keep in mind though that these are doses for OVERDOSE and so we often see the patient go unconscious (in which case airway must be maintained constantly).
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Meth and xanax? Anyone have any comments on this one? I'm not talking about the comedown. I'm talking about pre dosing with some xanax and then smoking some meth?
That my pNoid, misinformed & silly friend...IS A HEART ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN. Do as you please, but when your heart STOPs one of those crazy ol' nights, dont say some one didnt tell you so!
Could you be more specific? Is it because people tend to use more of each drug because they counter dict each other? For instance they smoke more meth because the xanax lowered the high? Then they take more xanax to take away from the tweakyness? This vague answer doesn't help me. Also, you didn't mention depending on dosage. I just find that mixing beznos and stimulants would be better than mixing opiates and stimulants.
Let me elaborate, First off i dont see what the point of meth and xanax is , i only seeing them canceling each other out, ive never done meth, but ive mixed xanax with everything else ive done( few things i dont fuck with dope,meth,crack etc). It would seem reasonable if canceling one or the other out was the intent, Like after thee days of smoking ice, you need to drop a bar to sleep and stop looking for another hit. Now what imeant by eventualy your can and prob will stop on you, say you take a few hits, or few dozen hits of meth w.e it may be, high for how ever long, decide to drop a half of a xanax bar, or a whole one..now after all the meth raised you bpm and has a tone set, mind you its a matter of seconds thats your bpm will rize when doing any stim esp meth, then when you drop that bar, with in 15 20 min its set in and forcing your heart to drasticly slow.
Now im no doctor but i know that xanax is a CNS , central nervous system depressant , and it fucks with the nirve system and shit, essentialy slowing it way the fuck down. So in small increments , you will feel healthy as an ox, but it is the same as city miles and highway miles on a car, you abuse it, it will go to shit that much faster.
So if your talking about large amounts of either or, or both..its far worse imo, essentialy that much more abuse in that much less of time.
Im really stoned right now so im not sure if im making any sense or not, hope this clears things up.
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Meth and xanax? Anyone have any comments on this one? I'm not talking about the comedown. I'm talking about pre dosing with some xanax and then smoking some meth?
That my pNoid, misinformed & silly friend...IS A HEART ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN. Do as you please, but when your heart STOPs one of those crazy ol' nights, dont say some one didnt tell you so!
Could you be more specific? Is it because people tend to use more of each drug because they counter dict each other? For instance they smoke more meth because the xanax lowered the high? Then they take more xanax to take away from the tweakyness? This vague answer doesn't help me. Also, you didn't mention depending on dosage. I just find that mixing beznos and stimulants would be better than mixing opiates and stimulants.
Let me elaborate, First off i dont see what the point of meth and xanax is , i only seeing them canceling each other out, ive never done meth, but ive mixed xanax with everything else ive done( few things i dont fuck with dope,meth,crack etc). It would seem reasonable if canceling one or the other out was the intent, Like after thee days of smoking ice, you need to drop a bar to sleep and stop looking for another hit. Now what imeant by eventualy your can and prob will stop on you, say you take a few hits, or few dozen hits of meth w.e it may be, high for how ever long, decide to drop a half of a xanax bar, or a whole one..now after all the meth raised you bpm and has a tone set, mind you its a matter of seconds thats your bpm will rize when doing any stim esp meth, then when you drop that bar, with in 15 20 min its set in and forcing your heart to drasticly slow.
Now im no doctor but i know that xanax is a CNS , central nervous system depressant , and it fucks with the nirve system and shit, essentialy slowing it way the fuck down. So in small increments , you will feel healthy as an ox, but it is the same as city miles and highway miles on a car, you abuse it, it will go to shit that much faster.
So if your talking about large amounts of either or, or both..its far worse imo, essentialy that much more abuse in that much less of time.
Im really stoned right now so im not sure if im making any sense or not, hope this clears things up.
He's got a valid point, if you take benzos you might ruin your high (at least in the doses we give). Our doses are to prevent the person from dying from overexertion though (say they're straining their heart so hard it fails)... still though, the doses we give can 1. make the person's respirations drop or their airway can be occluded due to emesis or 2. the haldol will result in extrapyramidal reaction (sometimes severe) so that benadryl must be given IV in order to prevent airway issues and further brain damage.
It also makes sense to some degree that you want to be a little less tweaked so you take a benzo before hand - if that's the case though, why not just have some adderall and caffein?? safer IMO
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HI people, my bad experience on mixing drugs was in a scary night a few years ago. Me and a group of friends take LSD, some Cocaine and a lot of alcohol. At a point of the night my brain began to fry at a level so high, my stomach began to spin and get so tight as i had never before felt. I sweated like a pig, hot and cold sweats. Really freaks me out. I started to feel really unwell and with a huge stoned fo lsd in my head. They had to take me home and not enjoyed anything that night. Horrible, never to forget. Of course we all react differently to drugs. This was my bad experience with mixing drugs. I have a lot of respect and know very well what i`m taking, not doing it we risk having a bad night and very serious consequences. In my case there were two days of extreme discomfort closed in the room waiting to find my brain again.
Peace from Smeegle!!!
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Klonopin (pins) & Alcohol. A friend took about 2mg in pins and had alot to drink. Was fine while I was there but after I left he got in a car, drove halfway across town and the police found him asleep at the wheel. He remembers 3 significant events: The cops finding him in his car, waking up in the hospital, and then getting picked up from jail.
I can definitely attest to Klonopin+a few beers+ weed = mind eraser. Go see a movie with that combo and you are most definitely going to have a hard time remembering it...
I'm kinda freaked about all the times I have taken opiates and then a benzo before bed, guess I got lucky. I will at least not do them the same night from now on, even though there is of course risk of it being in my system.
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thanks a lot, will take this into consideration
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I disagree with what others are saying about benzo's cancelling stimulants out. I wouldn't say they are particularly synergistic, but I love the combination.
I find that a small amount of xanax tends to take anxiety out of stimulants without messing with the effects. This is especially useful if you take stimulants to 'get shit done', taking a little bit of xanax eases any tension while allowing you maintain focus. As a college student I find the combination fantastically useful, especially with some of the more anxiety-causing 'weaker' stimulants, for example an extra large cup of coffee.
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Hey, thanks for this thread.
Maybe my bad experience can have the simplest of explanations in which case I'd like to hear you thoughts on this.
Friday night party a few weeks ago, by midnight I had smoked 5 or 6 joints (5G of strong weed) drank at least 1 L of vodka and was feeling alright, "naturally" high and happy.
Around 3 am back at my home I prepared an opium tea with coffee filters and hot water leaving it rest for a while and filtering it back again.
The strange feeling didn't come right away, I had never had any tea like this before (first ever use of any opium related stuff) and I couldn't notice any difference in the high nor in my vision and general feeling. I remember being a little disappointed when I went to sleep thinking that this first dosage of opium tea was too low (2G of raw crushed opium buds as I read it recommended when it's the first ingestion).
I woke up at 11 am and did not feel well at all. It wasn't a usual hangover. I spent the whole day in a fetal position lying in bed and basically sleeping 15 minutes and waking up sweaty, nauseous, being either too cold or too hot in few minutes interval and sometimes my heart was racing ...
The day after the physical symptoms had gone but when I look back I remember the hours of 'kind-of-pain' (they were not that strong when I read some of the posts here, definitely) and I'm wondering where were my mistakes :
- too much booze (mixing drugs and having a bad experience appears to be pretty frequently associated in the case of alcohol in the mix) ?
- wrong intake method of opium ?
- wrong dosage ?
What was the "difference in high" supposed to be do you guys think ?
Can I be somewhat "intolerant" to it ?
Thanks
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The main reason you wouldn't want to mix benzos and stimulants is the fact that benzos are respiratory depressing agents. A little lorazepam calms your brain down when you've taken too much meth or whatever, but more than the therapeutic dose is going to put the hurt on the efficacy of your circulatory system. Benzos also fuck with your heart rate as well, although I'm not sure what exactly about them, especially when paired with stimulants, causing heart attacks - but too much of either or too much of both will kill ya dead. Better to save that benzo for when the effects of your last dose have ended.
Friday night party a few weeks ago, by midnight I had smoked 5 or 6 joints (5G of strong weed) drank at least 1 L of vodka and was feeling alright, "naturally" high and happy.
This alone would give most people a horrible hangover. However, you did mix opiates and alcohol to some degree, which was a poor idea and probably contributed to your hangover. Perhaps you were very dehydrated?
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Can someone link me to a creport of a death caused by the combo of xanax and meth?
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Can someone link me to a creport of a death caused by the combo of xanax and meth?
Dude, theres nothing your google cant do that every one elses can. Just because you wont find a publicized death that is said to have been cause from the use of these two particular substances, certainly does not mean that it dont and wont happen man.
You go ahead and do what you want to do, or what youve convinced your self is 'ok'. I personally know what the fuck i know, and hard ups and hard downs, at some point or another, WILL FUCKING KILL YOU. Ive lost freinds and family to attest to it.
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Can someone link me to a creport of a death caused by the combo of xanax and meth?
Dude, theres nothing your google cant do that every one elses can. Just because you wont find a publicized death that is said to have been cause from the use of these two particular substances, certainly does not mean that it dont and wont happen man.
You go ahead and do what you want to do, or what youve convinced your self is 'ok'. I personally know what the fuck i know, and hard ups and hard downs, at some point or another, WILL FUCKING KILL YOU. Ive lost freinds and family to attest to it.
You've lost family members that overdosed on meth and xanax at the same time? That's really sad, i'm sorry for your loss.
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Can someone link me to a creport of a death caused by the combo of xanax and meth?
Dude, theres nothing your google cant do that every one elses can. Just because you wont find a publicized death that is said to have been cause from the use of these two particular substances, certainly does not mean that it dont and wont happen man.
You go ahead and do what you want to do, or what youve convinced your self is 'ok'. I personally know what the fuck i know, and hard ups and hard downs, at some point or another, WILL FUCKING KILL YOU. Ive lost freinds and family to attest to it.
and some people die from caffeine overdoses. meth and xanax is by no means a particularly dangerous combination. i'm not sure why anyone would mix them at the same time, most take benzos for stimulant crashes. mixing serious CNS depressants like opiates or barbituates and stimulants like meth or coke is far more dangerous than benzodiazepines.
i'm sorry for your loss but you cant make factual generalizations based on your own personal experiences.
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Can someone link me to a creport of a death caused by the combo of xanax and meth?
Dude, theres nothing your google cant do that every one elses can. Just because you wont find a publicized death that is said to have been cause from the use of these two particular substances, certainly does not mean that it dont and wont happen man.
You go ahead and do what you want to do, or what youve convinced your self is 'ok'. I personally know what the fuck i know, and hard ups and hard downs, at some point or another, WILL FUCKING KILL YOU. Ive lost freinds and family to attest to it.
You've lost family members that overdosed on meth and xanax at the same time? That's really sad, i'm sorry for your loss.
Noo mann, Your missing the fucking point, CNS deprassants & stimulants! i cant make that any clearer... You do you, best of luck in your travels
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Can someone link me to a creport of a death caused by the combo of xanax and meth?
Dude, theres nothing your google cant do that every one elses can. Just because you wont find a publicized death that is said to have been cause from the use of these two particular substances, certainly does not mean that it dont and wont happen man.
You go ahead and do what you want to do, or what youve convinced your self is 'ok'. I personally know what the fuck i know, and hard ups and hard downs, at some point or another, WILL FUCKING KILL YOU. Ive lost freinds and family to attest to it.
and some people die from caffeine overdoses. meth and xanax is by no means a particularly dangerous combination. i'm not sure why anyone would mix them at the same time, most take benzos for stimulant crashes. mixing serious CNS depressants like opiates or barbituates and stimulants like meth or coke is far more dangerous than benzodiazepines.
i'm sorry for your loss but you cant make factual generalizations based on your own personal experiences.
Im not 'making' facts based upon my personal exp. Im simply stating what any drug user with a half a brain knows, and using my exp as examples, Yes your indeed right that more serious CNS depressants would be far more likely to result in a death , but that does not make dropping x amount of xanax bars over the coarse of how ever long, all the while having smoked meth the entire time as well, any less dangerous.
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For me it was:
LSD and adderall (not on purpose)
Nuvgil and alcohol
I've had bad experince with other mixes but the above I will never try again.
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a-pvp+mdpv+xanax=A very long night! (I highly don't recommend) Xanax was great.
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I once combined magic mushrooms with adderall, alcohol, and hashish.
I do not recommend this combination. I experienced extreme paranoia and deliriant type hallucinations. I could not tell if my eyes were open or closed. The alcohol made me stupidly ingest a ridiculously large quantity of mushrooms.
However, when the peak of the trip was over and I was no longer convinced I was dead, I experienced the most beautiful visions I've ever had on any psychedelic.
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I usually take 10-20mg of valium at the end of a coke night if I can't sleep, and I'm right as rain the next day. That being said, this is usually an hour or so after my last line.
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a couple of trips i wouldnt do again
dropping acid and getting really drunk...no good put me in a wreckless attitude,i like my trips fun and upbeat couple beers or so ok just not a case or bottle
shrooms and acid combo wasnt for me very wierd visuals,my ceiling was like a boiling pot of water..etc
a combo i liked was acid,buds,beer,and a little meth or coke that was fun oh and whip its
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PCP and Datura had me doing some pretty crazy things..
hahaha FUCK YEAH now that's what I call a party.
I highly advise against doing lines of Ketamine when very drunk. I took a bump of probably like 40-50 mgs late night when I was fuckin' wasted, immediately puked all over my room and knocked me out til the morning\
Also ritalin before acid, didn't know I was gonna trip til after i took the ritalin, it was not too bad but just makes any anxieties you may get a lot worse.
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I highly advise against doing lines of Ketamine when very drunk. I took a bump of probably like 40-50 mgs late night when I was fuckin' wasted, immediately puked all over my room and knocked me out til the morning\
So the ILF just read through this whole thread to see if anybody had mentioned this particular combo, and at the very end, Hell Will Be Toasty pulls through. Good friends, do NOT, even for science, rail K after you have drunk alcohol. A double shot thirty minutes before the K had one member of the ILF in a serious state of nausea with long-lasting tinnitus afterwards. This is an extreme example, but you get the picture.
Ben is so right. Benzos and their anterograde amnesia, especially when combined with alcohol and/or stimulants, will have you wondering what the hell you did that night. Your phone may provide some clues.
MAOIs + MDMA & such. Not from personal experience, but seems like a very well-documented (potentially lethal) danger, Will Robinson!
Shit tons of alcohol followed by moderate-to-regular mushroom doses. You may find the descent deep into the heart of the preternatural man terrifying, but exhilarating, at best. At worst, you'll completely lose your shit. The people around you will have even less fun.
Finally, one mentioned here that bears some YMMV. 5-HTP with serotonin releasing agents could cause serotonin syndrome, true .... but, for example, with MDA, if the trip is feeling too speedy, it may be just what the doctor ordered, based purely on one member of the ILF's experience.
Finally, speaking of serotonin syndrome, if you are particularly sensitive -- lol, you won't know until you try! -- you may get ss from situations where others don't. One weekend, to celebrate a particular achievement in her life, a member of the ILF took ~50mg MDA on Friday night, a pressed MDMA pill on Saturday night, and a half gram of mushies on Sunday afternoon. No problems. Beautiful weekend. Monday morning, she is doing her hair in the bathroom and is suddenly overcome with weakness and nausea; she lies down and cancels plans for the day. But a half-hour later, she feels right as rain again. She gets back up and continues on with new plans. Fast forward two hours. After lunch, she is attacked by an overwhelming nausea again, and it gets worse as the minutes pass -- turns into fever, convulsions, inability to walk ... you get the picture. Not till Wednesday morning was it fully passed. Serotonin syndrome happens to, for whatever reason, really like this member of the ILF. This has not been her only encounter with it. Just lucky, we guess.
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Shit tons of alcohol followed by moderate-to-regular mushroom doses. You may find the descent deep into the heart of the preternatural man terrifying, but exhilarating, at best. At worst, you'll completely lose your shit. The people around you will have even less fun.
Lol @ this, yeah that sounds rough!