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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: underbelly on May 18, 2013, 08:43 am

Title: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: underbelly on May 18, 2013, 08:43 am
Why is Mescaline so rare in Australia? Actually not even ONE vendor in Australia.

I want to try this stuff so bad but the only vendor on SR is in Europe... makes me shitty.


I read reports mescaline can be compared to mild MDMA and wanted to try it, but no... looks like I might need to extract it myself from a cacti grown locally.

Mescaline extraction looks more simple than DMT... wtf?
Title: Re: Why is is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: zvp1014 on May 18, 2013, 08:51 am
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Mescaline extraction looks more simple than DMT... wtf?
Exactly, and you live in Australia FFS, get some cacti seeds!
Title: Re: Why is is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: underbelly on May 18, 2013, 08:52 am
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Mescaline extraction looks more simple than DMT... wtf?
Exactly, and you live in Australia FFS, get some cacti seeds!

I plan to go to a nursery soon and already got a peruvian torch, but he is only a baby and needs to grow.

Shulgin said mescaline was one amazing trip so gotta do what the professor says!
Title: Re: Why is is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: zvp1014 on May 18, 2013, 09:14 am
I plan to go to a nursery soon and already got a peruvian torch, but he is only a baby and needs to grow.

Shulgin said mescaline was one amazing trip so gotta do what the professor says!
Shulgin's also a bit out of it now, granted, that happens to anyone with age ;-)

If anybody would know about an amazing trip it'd have to be have; with all the tolerances his body has developed, he'd really need some potent stuff :P

Kidding of course. Great man.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: krazy4 on May 19, 2013, 05:38 am
Mescaline is amazing! One of my most euphoric trips.

I say just order a 12" cutting of bridgesii off the clearnet. I mean shit it's legal.
Look up ways to prepare it and have a good time.

I have done this three times. The potency varies a little bit but bridgesii seems to be the most consistent cactus.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: underbelly on May 19, 2013, 07:04 am
Mescaline is amazing! One of my most euphoric trips.

I say just order a 12" cutting of bridgesii off the clearnet. I mean shit it's legal.
Look up ways to prepare it and have a good time.

I have done this three times. The potency varies a little bit but bridgesii seems to be the most consistent cactus.

Hey bro! I am from Australia so had to source locally but I hot the jackpot today. Not only did I buy Pachanoi cutting thats around 5 KGs in weight, plus 3 other cuttings about 400 grams each but I also got a peruvian torch cacti and PEYOTE ;D ;D ;D

Peyote was quit pricey for the little guy, but they are essentially illegal here to buy in Australia.

Ill do the extraction on the 5 KG Pachanoi cuttings... looking forward to this. If all goes well, I might even start selling some on SR.

Is Mescaline really that similar of a trip to MDMA?

Ive tried shrooms many times buy so busting for mescaline more than anything else.

Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: smogmonster13 on May 19, 2013, 09:59 pm
Hey, Underb:

I'll be your first customer! Peyote is my all time favorite substance.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: moonflower on May 19, 2013, 10:06 pm
Why is Mescaline so rare in Australia? Actually not even ONE vendor in Australia.

I want to try this stuff so bad but the only vendor on SR is in Europe... makes me shitty.


I read reports mescaline can be compared to mild MDMA and wanted to try it, but no... looks like I might need to extract it myself from a cacti grown locally.

Mescaline extraction looks more simple than DMT... wtf?
mescaline is so rare because growing the cacti takes years and the yield is low. it's not worth the effort if you're doing it for profit. besides that, not many people synthesize it... so there ya go. also, please do not jump into the experience expecting a mild mdma-like roll. while that is part of the mescaline experience, it is also fully psychedelic, so be prepared for a trip.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: Ben on May 20, 2013, 01:25 am
I suppose it would be easy enough to start with really small dosages of you grow the things yourself though.

Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: Retro242 on May 20, 2013, 03:09 am
australia? fuck that, its rare period. even on SR. i used to love this shit. trip, and laugh your ass off? gotta hunt me some down.. its been too damn long...
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: underbelly on May 20, 2013, 09:03 am
Hey, Underb:

I'll be your first customer! Peyote is my all time favorite substance.
Sorry bro but Im keeping the lil P for myself to grow... he is tiny like a baby!

You are more than welcome to try my Pachanoi (San pedro) once that gets going... guaranteed food grade, no toxic chems!

Ill keep this thread updated.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: underbelly on May 20, 2013, 09:13 am
Why is Mescaline so rare in Australia? Actually not even ONE vendor in Australia.

I want to try this stuff so bad but the only vendor on SR is in Europe... makes me shitty.


I read reports mescaline can be compared to mild MDMA and wanted to try it, but no... looks like I might need to extract it myself from a cacti grown locally.

Mescaline extraction looks more simple than DMT... wtf?
mescaline is so rare because growing the cacti takes years and the yield is low. it's not worth the effort if you're doing it for profit. besides that, not many people synthesize it... so there ya go. also, please do not jump into the experience expecting a mild mdma-like roll. while that is part of the mescaline experience, it is also fully psychedelic, so be prepared for a trip.

Unless you find a great supplier of cacti, I agree it can be a slow process...

My motive is to experience mescaline first hand and then also share it with others, for a small fee, I am not interested in being a meth dealer who wants to make $$$ hand over fist.

Regarding the mescaline high, low doses are compared to MDMA, very euphoric but not psychedelic. Higher doses are both, feel good and psychedelic.
Many users compare MDMA high to mescaline high however mescaline high is much more spiritual and teaches you things... MDMA roll is almost very shallow and very narcissistic. From what I understand, most rate mescaline as a better drug than MDMA.

I never got into MDMA partly cos Australia has shitty drugs that are either too diluted or simply dirty. The idea of a hairy biker making my MDMA is at best revolting. Hence why I much rather take mescaline for a nice roll like high. I also like tripping on low dose shrooms at festivals.


 
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: wasta on May 20, 2013, 06:32 pm
Pihkal gives the alternative.
More cheap the downsides.

In the Netherlands you should be able to find a growers starting-package fot your little green stones.

It is just to much work ,
if Pihkal gives you the same for far less money.

But do you want the real green stones like you did read in Carlos the Casteneda in wishdom is power or on of his other books, you should order a starting-kit and grow your own.

It is just to expensive to get almost tehe same feeling for saf less mkoney
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: shulginsindex on May 22, 2013, 11:17 am
Still one to try.. Any bad side effects ? How good is the euphoria and what would you compare it to? Sorry for so many questions but its one that's been on my mind to try for a while.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: moonflower on May 22, 2013, 08:43 pm
Still one to try.. Any bad side effects ? How good is the euphoria and what would you compare it to? Sorry for so many questions but its one that's been on my mind to try for a while.
nausea is a fairly common side effect of taking mescaline, which i find is alleviated quite easily by cannabis. if you have to purge, don't resist. you'll feel much better after throwing up. as for the euphoria, in my opinion it is deeper and less superficial than mdma-induced euphoria.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: zipstyle on May 22, 2013, 09:51 pm
Still one to try.. Any bad side effects ? How good is the euphoria and what would you compare it to? Sorry for so many questions but its one that's been on my mind to try for a while.
nausea is a fairly common side effect of taking mescaline, which i find is alleviated quite easily by cannabis. if you have to purge, don't resist. you'll feel much better after throwing up. as for the euphoria, in my opinion it is deeper and less superficial than mdma-induced euphoria.

Hey moonflower! good to see you still around :))
I would agree with what you're saying too. Goes for all phenethylamines, in my opinion. The purge can be quite powerful spiritually.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: Asal88 on May 31, 2013, 09:48 am
It's annoying rare in general.

At one point there were a few vendors offering synthetic versions (or something like that), but that was a while ago and I have no experience with such chemicals.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on May 31, 2013, 04:59 pm
Love love love messcaline.  The reason it's so rare is because the percentage of mescaline in cactii is very low so extraction yields are not plentiful and the extractions take a while.

Fortunately I ordered several kilos of cactii powder a while back and extracted enough to keep me and my friends happy for life.  :)

The only thing I would compare to MDMA is some of the euphoria.  It can be a very visual and intense trip although I rarely reach the mindfuck that I might on say LSD.  Last time I took 900mg and by the end of the trip I could not remove a particular fractal pattern from anything I was seeing.  It had invaded my entire vision and even with my eyes closed it was tough to go to sleep in this state.

The visuals on mescaline to me make it seem like the entire world is digitized in HD.  Everything is so pretty and beautiful.  Much different than LSD .  I feel like LSD makes things uglier/scarier most of the time.  Shrooms can go either way.  But Mescaline is always positive on visuals (unless you can't get the fractals out of your head haha).
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: DrugsBunny on June 01, 2013, 02:51 am
Peyote was quit pricey for the little guy, but they are essentially illegal here to buy in Australia.
Illegal? uh the fact that you were able to get one should tell you its legality, live peyote are pretty much legal everywhere but the US.

Mescaline is rare because its really only something you can grow in personal amounts or to give to some friends even if you have tons of cactus, then with sything it, because of its high dose its not something that can get around in large amounts, the seeds for san pedro or bridgesii are cheap, ive got a whole bunch growing, if you wanted to, you could fill your backyard with them.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: smogmonster13 on June 02, 2013, 01:28 pm
Peyote was quit pricey for the little guy, but they are essentially illegal here to buy in Australia.
Illegal? uh the fact that you were able to get one should tell you its legality, live peyote are pretty much legal everywhere but the US.

Mescaline is rare because its really only something you can grow in personal amounts or to give to some friends even if you have tons of cactus, then with sything it, because of its high dose its not something that can get around in large amounts, the seeds for san pedro or bridgesii are cheap, ive got a whole bunch growing, if you wanted to, you could fill your backyard with them.

Would you need a desert-like environment to grow them in your backyard successfully?
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: DrugsBunny on June 05, 2013, 01:16 pm
Peyote was quit pricey for the little guy, but they are essentially illegal here to buy in Australia.
Illegal? uh the fact that you were able to get one should tell you its legality, live peyote are pretty much legal everywhere but the US.

Mescaline is rare because its really only something you can grow in personal amounts or to give to some friends even if you have tons of cactus, then with sything it, because of its high dose its not something that can get around in large amounts, the seeds for san pedro or bridgesii are cheap, ive got a whole bunch growing, if you wanted to, you could fill your backyard with them.

Would you need a desert-like environment to grow them in your backyard successfully?

Nope, just in a pot with dirt and sand in a sunny spot (not too sunny, like 4-5 hours of sun) you can look up how to grow them, i don't recommend planting them in the ground, as you should take them inside for the winter, but they are pretty easy to grow, also i recommend bridgesii, it is more potent then san pedro.
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: smogmonster13 on June 08, 2013, 11:03 am
Thanks, Bunny. I am going to look into it. Will it be difficult to find seeds for bridgesii?
Title: Re: Why is Mescaline so rare?
Post by: crystal on July 04, 2013, 06:52 pm
Growing a cactus is a great idea!

How long to you need before your bridgesii will provide you with enough mescaline for a decent trip? Then you just remove and eat a part of the cactus and it keeps growing?

Thanks :-)