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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: hecklah on June 30, 2012, 08:31 pm
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i didn't find an existing "review-thread" for this german seller, so i've started this one...
reputation is quite good for this guy... i've placed a bigger # order too today... don't think, that he'll request me to FE, because of my stats...
has anyone dealt with "format13" already and if yes... pls. leave some feedback for his products!
thank you
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i am in the same boat... have purchase stats of xxxxx+ purchase stats on sr-market place, but he still request me to FE...
i am really not sure, if i should FE with this guy... ok, he has 170+ transactions + 98% rating, but i've scrolled through the listings for the mtv's pillz + just found a single transaction where i could read out, that a buyer has already received them... but nothing else... i will keep this thread up to date, about how things are going...
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Just ordered 1g of his MDMA yesterday. I have nearly perfect buyer stats and have not been asked to FE. Will report back on everything. The picture is beautiful, though!
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In all honesty his stats in that short of time is what detoured me from even messaging him to inquire about his product. Not a punishment for great customer service and product but just my paranoia and 6 sense kicking in.
Lord Kruge -" I trust my instincts"
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I placed an order and said I wouldn't FE and format13 said he'd send me the weed first.
will update when i receive it.
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Ordered the sample of his super skunk, FE which i said i'd never do but as it's is only a $B2 sample im not bothered. Will have 10 transactions soon anyway will order the 25g if all is good.
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I´m waiting for 2 weeks now. Order a sample of his Pills, not arrived yet :/
But communication is good, and when he stays to his words the sample´s are arriving this week, hopefully ;)
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Honestly I was going to throw down and take a shot at the 10x Mtv pills and report to you guys with the attitude "If he can deliver to my lonely customs infested end of the world, he can deliver to you". But those stats are completely superficial at the moment and so many people have jumped on it to finalize early.
I usually play the high risk games like that to test the waters but I'm having that gut feeling to let this one slide and see how it plays out for now.
I'm not an established Roadie like some of you guys and even to me its still a HUGE red flag for you guys to have to FE.
It will be awesome if F13 does come through.
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I took a shot at the 10x Mtv...Will wait patiently and let you know.
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hi all...
i ordered last wednesday 5g of his skunk and FE'd early. his profile says shipping time would be one day. my stuff didn't arrive until today... and i am domestic! it should normally be there the next day! send him a mail yesterday, he said it would have been shipped on thursday or friday, but still, nothing is here! this makes me worried. not a single time did it happen that a domestic shipment did not arrive. UNTIL NOW!
well, i still hope it will be with me tomorrow, but honestly, i don't think so. if my stuff finally arrives, i will let you know.
best regards...
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I ordered a MTV sample about 12 days ago, which never arrived. Either it was never shipped out or lost, long shipping time is excluded since it's a domestic order.
I forgot that i had ordered from him before (the sample mentioned) and decided i would "try him out", not knowing i had practically already done so and been disappointed. I ordered 1g of mdma and 1g of skunk. He says they were both shipped last thursday (it's monday now) and nothing has arrived. This is highly unusual for shipping within Germany, so I'm starting to think this was a bad investment. I'll wait another day or two until i chalk it off as a loss, though.
I wouldn't order from him until there's some solid feedback coming in on quality and reliability. Sad thing, was hoping i could find a realiable and reasonably priced weed seller for german domestic orders, but such is life, ey?
Anyway, I've still got hope, I just wouldn't recommend putting in anymore orders until there's some confirmed arrivals.
cheers!
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Looking at how many orders he has had in the last week it really has taken off for him, perhaps there is just a little delay in processing orders. People should probably hold fire on ordering large amounts though.
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Glad I checked this thread now, I was going to order some of that super skunk.
The price is nice but it seems no1 has received it yet, all the feedback is from FE people.
I don't understand why people leave 5/5 when they FE, don't they know you can just click the SR logo or any other link and get back to the main page. Then leave some feedback when you get the stuff.
It clogs up all the feedback pages and makes it hard to find some legit reviews.
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I too placed an order with F13 and how i wish i wouldn`t have. I am waiting for 5 days now and domestic mail inside germany almost never takes that amount of time. I checked his profile again and for sure i have no proof but everything looks just too good. The weed is cheaper than on the street or even in a coffeshop. He takes nothing for shipping. The MDMA is also delicious looking and really cheap if you compare. The Photos are looking really proffesional. He has a hundred fans but is just here for a month. And when you look at his feedback it all the time a lot of FE in a row and then a lot "great job" also in a row all at the same time. People who ordered days ago havent edit their feedback, and others are waiting since weeks for their samples. Now I am afraid that this is not just a scammer, I am afraid this could be LE collecting Adresses and purchase statistics. I mean the LE could set up 100 accounts here and give good feedback to themselves. I tought a long time before posting this because the last thing i wanna do is to throw shit at a legit vendor, but security first. I cleaned my house. I am so hoping to get proofed wrong. So everybody out there who has done successful business with Format13 please let me know.....
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i think that is a little far fetched, there has been some good feed back, a lot of people don't update feedback aswell. If LE were doing anything like that they would be going after sellers not buyers buying a couple of grams of weed, just wouldn't be worth it.
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Yeah i really hope so too. But i remember a case in germany when the police raided dozends of flats because they got the adresses from a internet shop who selled lamps and other stuff for growing.
Well yes, smoking ain`t growing but maybe they wanna execute an example here too, because SR is just such a pain in the ass for them and they want the potheads to go back into the parks to buy hairsprayed garbage again.
Bu,t like i said i have no real proof, i am just thinking aloud.
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He got like 180 orders in the last 7 days. Maybe it's a little too much for him...
Or he's a selective scammer. LE in Germany wouldn't do stuff like this.
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Well, we will see. If i were the police tahts exactly the thing i would do. Or is there any law that keeps them from doing this?
If my weed arrives i will post it immediately and erase the former posts.
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Placed an order yesterday and now I'm reading this thread, wishing I'd have read it before. Will also update if/as soon as anything arrives.
@bananarama
As for the LE suspicion: I highly doubt that. Why would they set up a profile, maintain it (ie. send mails, asking to finalize early) just to get a few small time buyers addresses. I mean, you never know what's going on in their minds, but if german LE is doing investigations on SR, I would assume they'd go after the sellers rather. Of course, you still got me paranoid now, so the best thing would just be if we all received our orders.
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hi all...
i ordered last wednesday 5g of his skunk and FE'd early. his profile says shipping time would be one day. my stuff didn't arrive until today... and i am domestic! it should normally be there the next day! send him a mail yesterday, he said it would have been shipped on thursday or friday, but still, nothing is here! this makes me worried. not a single time did it happen that a domestic shipment did not arrive. UNTIL NOW!
well, i still hope it will be with me tomorrow, but honestly, i don't think so. if my stuff finally arrives, i will let you know.
best regards...
im exactly in the same situation. normally i wouldnt have finalized early because of bad experiences lately but it were just a few coins so i didnt care.
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I was just thinking... SR is here for almost 1 1/2 years so obviously LE can`t shut this down. So the only thing to do is to get as much addresses as possible and then raid them all at once. Sure they won`t bust a lot of people because most will just have a little bit of weed at home. The real thing will be the media rumor like: "150 house searches with users of underground drug community".
Even if they get nobody in front of court this would prevent people from using services like SR.
The greatest weapon they have is fear, don`t forget that...
But like i said, i am just thinking aloud. At least i am still here and i am gonna stay because i love the spirit of this project!
Still counting that everything works out fine, or at least we just got scammed.
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There are also some feedbacks like:
5 of 5 FE 100g super skunk, fingers crossed.
Update
arrived in one day, safe packaged
big buds, nice smell
my new weed vendor
5 of 5 5/5
1 day domestic
mild taste
solid buds
nice skunk high
but there are also some that say, the samples never arrived.
I think he's really busy with all that orders ;\
On myself i've ordered a small bud to test the new domestic vendor.
I'll update for sure (:
Until now, I can say, this vendor does a good job in communication :)
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I've a domestic order since 5 days which has to arrive yet. i don't want to say format13 is a scammer or something like that, but fact is i could not find a single person in the forums whose order arrived. So if someone whose order arrived could post to show us everything is alright it would be much appreciated.
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how come that the number of visible ratings for this vendor fluctuates...? this morning i only the last 24 hour feedback for the 5g skunk, then 2 hours ago all ratings were viewable and now again i only see the last 24 hour feedback... is this random or a setting for vendors?
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Thats normal happens to all vendors.
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i hate to say it but, ive been having the same thoughts about this guy, god i hope i,m wrong. i placed my first ever order on sr with format13, im new to this site but im not green, used budmail for ages before it closed. anyway i seen his ofer for free sample of golden mtv, i only had to pay postage 0.16 bitcoin. i thought this would be a good way to get to grips with the site, so i placed an order, i also gifted a friend 0.16 bitcoin so she could enjoy to. after 7/8 i messaged format 13 politley explaining i had not yet recieved and asking for advice. after a few days with no response, my freind screemed scamer (against my advice) and left negative feedback. within hours she had a reply offering to now send 5 pills as he had a technical problem that deleted adresses. my friend was over the moon, apologised for her over reaction and offered to amend feedback when the items arrived. she promptly called me to inform me off this, so ichecked my email and still no reply from format 13(not even read). so i messaged him asking if i had to leave bad feedback to get a response?? surley not the right way to do things i thought! so i recieved a reply saying problem with lost addresses he will resend. i want to trust him, give some one trust and they usualy return it. so i also placed an order for 1g of weed, and again finalized early as requested. its only been a few days since he said he will now send the order so i'm keeping my fingers crossed. but gut instinct is telling me somthing just isnt right. the good vendors dont ask you to fe. and out of all those fe's no further updates. i so want to be wrong, really i do! and if any of my two orders arrive or my friends, i will be on here singing his praises beleive me. but gut instinct is rarely wrong im afraid. ive only lost a few quid if hes a bad one think of all the poor sods that have probably sent him hundreds :-( im thinking dont trust any vendor who has built his rep on fe.
format13 please prove us all wrong.
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tbh i don't know what your worried about your only gonna lose less than a euro, some people have ordered 25g plus of the weed.
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Ordered Skunk on 29/06/12.
Communication was good.
He said it will be shipped 01/07/12.
Shipping is domestic, so it should arrive tomorrow, at least Wednesday-
Will let you know if something happens.
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@ slowburner
quote "ive only lost a few quid if he's a bad one, think of all the poor sods that have probably sent him hundreds)
my loss would be just short of £10 not the end of the world, just not nice. and i clearly gave regard to the people who MAY have lost significantly more. i just like to believe in the goodness and honesty of other, but sometimes life proves us wrong. :-)
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Just in case anyone has missed it, F13's profile has been updated with an explanation for delayed delivery (heaps of orders in only a few days).
This is a good sign for those that have taken him up.
For those that are saying "I wish a read this thread first", Please learn from this and in the future spend a little more time researching and assessing the vendors and risks.
Stay safe and have fun Rodies!!!
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I placed an order for the MTV pills. I meet his FE requirements so hopefully he lets me stay in escrow or cancels the order if not. Will report back if I hear anything.
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I must write here.Few days ago i bought 5g weed,according with the functions of SR i wanted to cancel my order - i want change it on 25g.He requested me about transaction ID.I send it.Since that she didnt answer me.I hope he isn't scammer and he will change my order.
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hi guys...
this guy is 99.9999999% a BIG SCAM. his ratings that state delivery all sound similar, he gave these himself i suppose. when i contacted him he said that until now everybody got his order... obviously a LIE as we can see here. i don't like being lied to straight in my face. he probably also found this thread, because when someone stated that the delays are probably due to the high load of orders, a short time later his profile was also updated saying so. this is just a excuse to buy a little time and to collect some more money.
until now obviously no one got his order, despite having waited for a few days now. domestic mail never takes that long!
DO NOT ORDER ANYMORE FROM THIS VENDOR until there are some confirmed deliveries from trustworthy people in this forum.
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Hey,
So I received 1 of three orders today. 1g of MDMA, looks to be good quality. Still missing the order for 1g of Skunk and the samples, though i've written those off already. This is generally a good sign, though i woulnd't take it as a go-ahead to start ordering until there are more confirmed arrivals... Seems to me like he might be selevtively scamming. I've generally got a bad gut feeling about this guy. Won't be using him again in any case. Just too undependable.
Greets,
SB
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Hey,
at least I know now that he isn`t LE, as slumberbot has received something.
Sorry if I infected someone with my paranoia.
I am gonna check my mailbox in a few hours an post what i found in there or not.
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just wanted to let you know, I ordered 1g of the skunk and again 25g on the same day to a different location. Both orders where done last week, and I have nothing received yet. I get the very strange feeling that this might in fact be a big scam. I was taking risks when finalizing early, but I don't get why so many people (seems like 95%) are also giving 5/5 when just finalizing early... too stupid to know? to lazy?
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if i have learn anything peoples reviews on sr mean little, time and time again noobs have given good reviews for piss poor product, i only really take notice of the forums. Ordering 25g before recieving your sample is a little risky isn't it?
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yes, like I said, I willingly too the risk. so my bad if hes really a scammer :/ I just don't get the 5/5 ratings, totally stupid. if you finalize, you don't need to rate....
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Just to let you know, my mailbox was empty too.
Everybody who is waiting for an order should ASAP change his rating to prevent others, from FE. at least as long as the vendor is in doubt.
I got a last hope that he is just overwhelmed with all these orders but i on`t count on it.
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I didn't know you could finalize without leaving a rating.. i thought if you didn't change your rating after clicking finalize it'd just say "Leave feeedback here", but i only FE'd once for a reputable vendor so I didn't care much.
Thanks for the tip though.
What made me suspicious is that a lot of F13's feedback is written in the same style (really short and enthusiastic).
Other vendors who're selling great weed for a cheap price have longer and more diverse feedback (whole sentences, less ALL CAPS).
Anyway, maybe he just bought a large amount of weed and tries to sell it asap with as little risk as possible. So I'll wait before calling him a scammer.
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I was going to order some of that super skunk and I checked this thread now... Thank you very much to SR community,
I won't order anything from F13....
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He updated his Seller Page today:
03/07/
I do not reply to this forum shit!
I currently have too many orders!
I'll do my best to all orders as quickly as possible (and save) to send!
AND... ALL HATERS CAN FUCK OFF!!!
So either he is pissed and really has a lot of orders to do.
Or he is trying to save more time to scam some more Orders.
Someone remembers the seller "Supermario" from last year?
I still hope he is ok. But the feeling gets worse.
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someone please let me know if they get there stuff im interested in the super skunk its very cheap and looks lovely but i dont think il be placing an order until i see good things on here thank fuck i read this wee thread or i would have already ordered .. gman00
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in bc have issues, too =(
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i ordered 10g about a month ago and everyhting was good so i ordered 25g and didnt think anything bad as the first transaction went well so i did FE but now im kind of worried :(
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I ordered 2 Samples of the Skunk on Friday. Got very quick response that he wants me to FE. I was okay with that ( yes i know that this is noob-style and nobody has to complain if he FE and then gets scammed. But i had a good Feeling and so i did it.) Then again very quickly a message arrived which said that he will ship it on Saturday.
Then on Monday , a Package arrived. The stealthiest Package i`ve ever seen. Really nice work.
I opened the Package and surprise, there was Weed inside. A nice big Bud, well trimmed, smelly and tasty.Smoked it an the high was pretty good.Simply fuckin` good Weed.
But there was only 1g in it. I ordered 2g.
Wrote him a Message and told him about that. Again very quick response and he asked me for the Transaction ID. I gave it to him and that was the last i`ve heard from him.
Wrote a message this morning and asked whats going on. No answer yet.
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Ordered a sample Pill, FE´d without request (only a few Cents) — never received.
Contacted him, he said "oh..how weird, I´ma send you 2 Pills now" — never received.
Contacted him, he said "oh..how strange, I´ll send you a code for your troubles — never happened.
I say, he´s a scammer, trying to keep his scam going as long a s possible. He´s very nice and fast when he writes you a message, he send´s out a little something to few people every now and then...that´s how he keeps people hoping and ordering.
Look at this thread. His strategy works. Not one person received their stuff, and still everybody has their hopes up.
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@momullier
Exactly the same here!!
Ordered 16.06 - in Transit 19.06 - Nothing arrived till 26.06 - Then he says that he will send it now, and give a pill +
- Now it´s the 03.07 nothing arrived and no answers are incomming.
I´m mad of driving to the maildrop and see nothing -.-
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I guess that settles it. He is trying to keep his scam running as long as possible. That´s all.
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I will wait until tomorrow and then call it a scam.
Wwhen I asked about my order this morning I haven't received an answer yet. But he is friendly and quick in mail before that.
Mail doesn't take longer then 2 Days Domestic. Its now been 4 Days. since order.
I guess he lives near the Border or something and is able to get small amounts of weed (5g) daily. I bet he can't deliver bigger amounts. Its just a Bluff.
Because the only people who seem to have received something, never order more than 1g.
Either way, Don't buy from that Seller yet! I recommend to wait until things clear out or go to another seller.
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will report him to an operator and post in the scam thread tomorrow.
if you want to scam people, this is exaclty how it goes.
look at his stock of super skunk, its 6207 gram in total.
i highly doubt that.
if one isnt able to handle 200 orders a week, pull the fucking listings off or go stealth until the job is done.
you may prove that im wrong f13, by facts, not just by words.
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This is the message he sent to me on SR after I asked him to post here explaining some things and putting us at ease...
I do not reply to this forum shit!
I currently have too many orders!
I'll do my best to all orders as quickly as possible to send!
AND... ALL HATERS CAN FUCK OFF!!!
(You can post this in the forum)
Regards
FORMAT13
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Will I get my coins back when I haven't FE already? Glad that I read this thread before FE. Just hope it will arrive. I had walking to the drop to see it's empty.
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Well again nothing in the Mail.
Now i am convinced that this guy is a scammer....
These guys are really annoying damaging this project. When i think about how much money he made with his scam i could puke.....
On the other hand someone placed an order with this guy and spend 2bc just to prevent others from falling into the trap. That`s true spirit.
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purchase transaction x -68.88 1.22 June 26, 2012, 1:22 pm UTC
ordered 100x pills and weed sample.
not arrived.
my location: germany
his location: germany
fe: yes
do you think you got owned?: yes
at the beginning very good communication about, answers came very fast. (less than hour)
he told me it was shipped on wednesday, so it has to arrive on thursday, nothing. i asked him wtf is going on? he told me to wait until friday. and again i asked why that fuckin order isn't in my hands, he told me it will arrive at the latest on saturday.
now: no answers since sunday. he told me if the package didn't arrive on tuesday i'll get 100% refund. did i get it? no.
edit:
german: Dieser Knecht wird euch vermutlich abrippen. Ich bin sehr sachlich und offenherzig während den Mails gewesen, er auch. Nun ja, lasst euch nicht von diesem Idioten scammen, egal wie verlockend das ist! Ich rate euch nie zu FE'n außer es ist Pfandleiher oder andere richtige, ehrliche Leute, die diese Community fördern.
Wenn ihr FE verwendet, bitte ich euch keine 5/5 Bewertungen abzugeben sondern entweder gar nicht bewerten oder 1/5
Es kann natürlich sein, dass er mit den Bestellungen überfördert ist, aber dann sollte er in stealth gehen um hinterher zu kommen, tut er nicht. Was soll man sich da denken? Da sind auch keine voreiligen Schlüsse ich warte seit 3 Tagen auf eine Stellungnahme und es passiert nichts. Falls ich falsch liege entschuldige ich mich schon mal im Vorraus für diese vielleicht falschen Infos.
edit: Er ist im stealth, mal schauen.
Idate
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perhaps he is only busy I wait a bit
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Once again noting arrived today - 100% scammer!!! >:(
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perhaps he is only busy I wait a bit
Well, unfortunately, I don't think so. I would like to, but all the red flags are risen.
That will give me a good lesson.
A good lesson, but an expensive one...
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i thought i already learned my lesson but was dumb enough to fe again. first i didnt care for a few coins but now i am really pissed off for being scammed 3 times in a row.
reported him to the scam thread a few minutes ago.
will never ever fe, not a single coin.
maybe this place should be called scam road.
ban fe and most scammers will leave.
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yes was the first time for me - hope i will get my coins refunded as i didnt fe
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Seems like we all learned a lesson here. Never gonna FE again.
I now have been scammed by Exchangeservice, Amsterdamshop and finally Format 13.
I could bite my ass, that i fall for this cheap good looking weed offer.
More care in the future and more attention to the forum...
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I ordered from FORMAT13 around a month ago, and delivery was timely, product was fairly good. Ordered again on Sunday, with all the hubbub I think this might be my first order that will bounce. Thankfully I didn't FE.
Smells like selective scamming though, all the good vendors simply unlist their items when they get too many orders, and re-list once those are processed.
As always, you get what you paid for, I guess.
PS: When I go the resolve center route, will that blemish my account stats? I'm currently at 0% refund, out of 19 transactions. Should I just eat the loss or is it worth to have the buyer stats blemished?
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He updated his profile and remove items :
"04/07/
Hey Guys, 100 orders were shipped today!
The next 100 will be sent tonight!
Sorry for the late delivery! "
Amazing Sitcom :) if its true Germans customers can update tomorrow ...
So he don't reply and read PM's, doubt is always here ... No hope ...
If orders take their destination, I will change my feedback ...
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Good that i found this thread! I`m a newb here and was very close to buying from him, his good feedback sold me.
I already learned my first lesson without getting hurt: Never FE! Why would you?!
I don`t know if he is a scammer, selective scammer or just very very busy. He obviously lies and that`s not someone i want to do business with. Even if he is sending his 100 orders (really 100? Exactly 100?) now.
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I can imagine it's a problem to get more than 200 envelopes on their way. You can't just put them in the same mailbox, or several mailboxes in the same city. If you live in a small town or rural area, that becomes a problem with every new order. As his account is a month old or so, maybe he's new to the mailorder thing. He seems to have listened and took his offers down.
He could still be a scammer, though, trying to convince a few more people to finalize their orders.
I think he was just overwhelmed by the orders, which was mostly weed and he was one of two german vendors offering domestic weed in the last two weeks. It's summer and people want to get high :)
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oh boy... what a shame... what a mess. i should have been skeptical when i saw that "super skunk". pretty clever to offer a cliche old skool strain that everybody has had sometime and liked it and that nowadays is only rarely seen. i haven't seen or smoked super skunk since years. then put "german" and "bio" next to the offer and everybody is good to go.
i like to punch the guy in his face.
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He updated his profile and remove items :
"04/07/
Hey Guys, 100 orders were shipped today!
The next 100 will be sent tonight!
Sorry for the late delivery! "
Amazing Sitcom :) if its true Germans customers can update tomorrow ...
So he don't reply and read PM's, doubt is always here ... No hope ...
If orders take their destination, I will change my feedback ...
Well, let's see what happens, but I prefer to keep in mind that I have been scammed, don't need a false hope.
But you know what? I'm more angry against me than I am against him!
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@crasydancer, when staff said don't FE its like you said to a kid don't touched the red bottom ... but we are humans and humanity is made of mistakes ...
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hi guys, i'd like to ask your opinion:
theoretically there is the risk that indeed he shipped everything and as 0xDEADBEEF already pointed out, it could be problematic to have too many envelopes of the same make & kind in one mailbox (i had the exact same thought already). if you were a business you would not send your business this way. could there be the risk that the mailman who empties those boxes will become suspicious (or someone else who sees this amount of mail from one source) and hand those envelopes over to authorities to have them checked? i wonder if they are trained to do so and to keep an eye open for it to report "anomalies". this could potentially mean that authorities collected a lot of addresses could potentially pay everybody whose order was intercepted a visit... i guess.
is this a realistic/likely scenario or is it more realistic that the guy is just a scammer? i'd prefer to have my 5 g order lost compared to having my place raided.
thanks a best regards,
me
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At the moment his site states "This user has no active listings". I wonder if he took down his offers by himself or if this happened by an SR admin?
He updated his page also:
04/07/
Hey Guys, 100 orders were shipped today!
The next 100 will be sent tonight!
Sorry for the late delivery!
So, there is still a possibility that he is a new seller who has not much experience and couldn't handle so many orders.
I think "DerUnbekannteAffe" maybe right. If he scams, the fact that he chose the strain "Super Skunk" looks a bit fishy too.
I haven't seen that strain in years. Which doesn't mean that its not out there. I still hope I'm wrong.
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@derunbekannteaffe As i had nearly the same fears as you (expressed in this thread earlier) i talked to somebody who studies law (in germany of course) and he said that it would be very unlikely if not impossible to get raided. I mean you never really got anything in your hands. Everybody can write your address on an envelope, put some weed in it and send it to you. There is no proof that you ordered the stuff. Furher, its not that easy to get a search warrant. If they don`t catch you inflagranti, they need a judge to sign it, this won`t happen whithout evidence that you are at least a seller. I know there are other opinions on that issue, police don`t play by the rules all the time and when you don`t know shit the enter your home and fuck you in the ass.
Maybe Format13 surprises us on the positive side and tomorrow we are all stoned and happy......
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Maybe Format13 surprises us on the positive side and tomorrow we are all stoned and happy......
While we're all being paranoid: Don't partake of your freshly arrived goods immediately. Keep the envelope closed, cross out the address and write "Return to sender" on it. Put it next to your front door "so you can put it in the mailbox the next day". That's what you would do with something you received but didn't order.
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Maybe Format13 surprises us on the positive side and tomorrow we are all stoned and happy......
While we're all being paranoid: Don't partake of your freshly arrived goods immediately. Keep the envelope closed, cross out the address and write "Return to sender" on it. Put it next to your front door "so you can put it in the mailbox the next day". That's what you would do with something you received but didn't order.
I don't know about this whole return to sender stuff, as most people who ordered are probably from Germany, there is nothing like the postman picking up your mail you want to send somewhere.
Anyways, good luck everybody who is waiting for the product and fe'd, hope you aren't getting scammed and format13 is just overwhelmed with the orders.
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i am currently on mandy and my hopes are damn high=)
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I've been on Mandy too, shes a great ride! lol
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I ordered 10 gold mtv's from this guy on Saturday, simply because they look f**kin delicious, He didn't ask me to finalize early for that purchase, but on Sunday, I ordered 100g's of SS..... he processed it almost within the hour and asked me to finalize.... I have over 50 purchases with no refunds.. reluctantly I did... At this stage his rating was (98), and came back on today and I see his rating is (80).... (almost had a cardiac arrest)
When you really think about it... cheap super Skunk and 200 mg gold mtv's, who the fuck aint guna buy that shit??
I think I have been royally ass raped, $700 down..
I pray to god that I'm wrong, but I aint sure if god helps out with Narcotic related dilemma's...
Maybe I should try Satan Instead.. ;-)
Ps.. please dont let us down Format13, you'll be the first to have done so for me on SR ..
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So, 1 order received 2 orders non received. Those are the facts on my end, the rest is speculation. Quality of service certainly doesn't adhere to my expectations and will not be ordering from this vendor again and would not recommend others to do so. Too bad, but that's life.
SB out.
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its possible to have fresh news ? anybody received something in germany from him ?
I am totally sure we all have been scam by him but I need to have a clear response to turn the page and go to another road .
Admin/staff, nobody can close his account ??
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Admin/staff, nobody can close his account ??
That's not a good idea, especially if his "Scammer"-status is unclear. If he still has orders to process, he would have no way to do so. It would also rob him of the opportunity to eventually answer to all his customers. He did remove his listings (or SR staff did, I don't know if they can and want to do that), so for the time being, no one can order from him.
For most people, it has only been a week, max. 2, of delay so far I think. If something went wrong and he suddenly had to weigh, bag, package and ship over 200 orders and is not used to that kind of traffic, delays are not surprising. Of course, his FE policy, bad communication and possibly other things speak against him. As of now, however, I would say it's still undetermined whether he's a scammer or not.
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ok but we must be realist, in fact 200 orders was impossible because there was no 200 FE and we are just a few here who communicate and if he really shipped something yesterday, a positive feedback must appear and its not the case. So a action must be do by SR support.
In any manner this vendor is out ... even if its legit, who want to order again with this bad experience ...
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IMHO I believe he's a scammer, Admins should freeze his account, so he can't withdraw the money, I would like to know if there are any btc and if there are, is it possible to draw who had FE?
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surprise surprise - walked to drop and ... NOTHING >:(
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guess it shouldve been a warning sign - weed was too cheap plus shipping was free - fuck it was my first order and promptly got scammed
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fuck it was my first order and promptly got scammed
Don't let that scare you off SR. It's still way more secure (if used properly) than buying on the street/in clubs.
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ok now its sure its the end of this bullshit sitcom ... Staff must do something, please share and update to SR support. Now its too late to see any coins back, and I don't want to see his profile alive, I am under pressure, and I don't want to think about him anymore ...
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nothing arrived for me, not the 1g, not the 25g... scam 99,9%
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nothing arrived for me, not the 1g, not the 25g... scam 99,9%
sorry to hear love your handle get the official pistol gang onto them
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did anyone receive something yet?
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did anyone receive something yet?
nope, still waiting on my weed which i ordered on the 1st.. really hoping he'll come through it with since he popped my SR cherry, some acid i ordered arrived today though so i'll be enjoying that later ;D
edit: forgot to mention i messaged him 2 days ago asking if he sent it and if he might of lost my address like someone on here said, no reply though...
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So - Now it´s 5hours until Auto Finalize of my ordered Sample - I resolved now, nothing in the Mailbox today - no Sample ever arrived.
No more answers from Format13 on SR.
Sorry but 3weeks from Germany to Germany and no communication is way to scammy ^^
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Hi, ... 'd like not even swing a long talk ... As we have noted all the suspicion is close to the Format13 is a fraud. He takes exactly the same mesh as from German Ex-press. Only a few bait for the feedback and then build on all FE, and then all at once then exclude ... and then takeoff, and I am sure it is this man no matter what happens with his account, as long as he gets down all of the SR Bitcoins he is winner of this shit, game,
people .. WARNING of German retailers, ... always watch the stats, how long is he on SR ... are careful to build trust in, and never pays attention .... FE bei not just German buyer of the product that they make you offers for madness, ... when there is suspicion of being disbelieved .. do not buy .... and this is a warning from one who lives in Germany, ... sadly, ... normally you should just trust because there are more .. But no matter, there are assholes everywhere in the world .. man that may change, but you can avoid them ... I will not even condemn the people really want to achieve something on the market, large respect and thanks to all the serious ... so ready .. also wanted to let off en mustard, ... does all this not to ersnt ... ne is only conjecture no confirmation,
greeting and bye---------> sorry for the bad english ,... google translator ,... my english is much horroble
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So his account is gone now? Looks like I'll just have to cancel the order, glad it stay in processing.
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Yep, he's gone!
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damn looked like a real good GER vendor there for a little while..
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and what happens to all the money, i think he earns maybe over 1000 bitcoins!
i also don't know why SR staff nothing done before! i hate people like this!
I only order from now on people like, sesampino,imprint,afterhour,psilocin,djabbar,.....and so on, where i know they are legit always!!
i think SR staff should look that every user get back their money, if it is possible!
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Hi guys,
I, too, have been ordering from format13, but luckily didn't FE. Does that mean I just have to wait for the "resolve" option to be available and can then get my money back? Or is it, like, lost forever due to account deletion?!
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I ordered 5g on saturday the 30th of june. On monday the 2nd of july, he said in a PM that all orders from saturday and sunday were shipped on monday. Since then, he didn't even read my messages. Like the other people, i did FE. After "holland" and "AmsterdamShop", i now got scammed from "Format13". Btw, the shipping is inside germany.
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I also ordered some weed 10 days ago and did FE according to his rules. Never received anything and no reponse to a PM. Next time i'll have a closer look at the vendor before ordering.
So, have fun with my money!
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i will not fe never ever. this had shown me. its not worth it. if there are no more legit vendors on SR then i just wont smoke. seller accounts shouldnt be given out to anyone who wants.
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F**k this guy... he f**ked for for 100g'.. what a f**ckin tramp........ It's people like him, that give me less confidence when using SR.. thats my first scam in over 50 transactions and no re-funds.... I hope he buys some really dirty 'H' and Od's.... Murther Fucker....
What a fuckin asshole $700 to
What goes around comes around ;)
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Hopefully the SR-Staff checks in and refunds all of us that still say in escrow... fast ,-)
I want some coke for the change I get there, hehe.
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F**k this guy... he f**ked for for 100g'.. what a f**ckin tramp........ It's people like him, that give me less confidence when using SR.. thats my first scam in over 50 transactions and no re-funds.... I hope he buys some really dirty 'H' and Od's.... Murther Fucker....
What a fuckin asshole $700 to
What goes around comes around ;)
argh damn man i feel for you ..
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hallo leute, ich hoffe jemand kann mein text hier übersetzen. mein englisch ist zu schlecht
ich will alle leute warnen, gestern gab es bei zwei freunden von mir hausdurchsuchungen die bei dem vendor gekauft haben.
ohne das was geliefert wurde. alle notebooks handys festplatten und so wurden mitgenommen bitte alle warnen
die sache stinkt gewaltig
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what he said^^^^^^^^
'hello people, I hope someone can translate my text here. my english is too bad
I want to warn all bought people, yesterday there were two friends of mine house searchings where the vendor.
without what has been delivered. All mobile phones notebook hard drives, so please warn all were taken
The huge thing stinks'
I really don't know what to say to that..
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oh come on german police? how should they be connected to a vendor?
This stinks to the heaven and I dont think the police will collect addresses or something for a few grams of weed.
but anyways I am glad I ordered to a safe drop, hehe.
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I don't think anyone in LE gives a crap about people ordering 1g samples, there MIGHT be a connection to people who sunk huge orders into that vendors, but even then I kind of doubt there is a connection. Chill people, German police won't raid small scale buyers.
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Depends on the state. Bavaria for example is a lot more strict than let's say, Berlin. However, who knows how much those guys bought - as far as i recall format13 had 100g listings too.
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Fuck. Shit. Fuck. Now I'm scared.
But can they legally get a search warrant?
Anyone can write anyones address here, that's the point of receiving weed by mail. Plausible deniability and shit.
Would german police do that? Has it happened to anyone else here?
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The guy who didn't speak english was a client, not format13.
He said:
"Sorry for my bad english, i wanna warn everyone, two of my friends who ordered from format13 had their homes searched and mobiles and computers confiscated but didn't receive any weed from f13."
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Fuck. Shit. Fuck. Now I'm scared.
But can they legally get a search warrant?
Anyone can write anyones address here, that's the point of receiving weed by mail. Plausible deniability and shit.
Would german police do that? Has it happened to anyone else here?
As I said, it depends on the state you live in and the amount you ordered. Plausible deniability is a nice concept, but nobody is going to believe that a mysterious "someone" shipped 100g of weed to your place.
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The guy who didn't speak english was a client, not format13.
He said:
"Sorry for my bad english, i wanna warn everyone, two of my friends who ordered from format13 had their homes searched and mobiles and computers confiscated but didn't receive any weed from f13."
can anyone link me to the guide on how to prepare my anus?
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What's the fuck ? in my opinion we don't know what's happened, its mostly possible it was just a scammer who want to made money quick and without any troubles, he done his profile like that, with fake feedback and cool menu ... so he toke some physical address as well and he can visit some house now if it is a thief, no problem ...
In the other case if its interpol who did that, it made no sense and recent history told to us they want "big fish" and not really customers but doubts are always here, some attacks are possible to prove they work hard against the drugs, eternal story ...
Its time for SR to do something, maybe become private and have a new url with only trusted and selected people ...
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The guy who didn't speak english was a client, not format13.
He said:
"Sorry for my bad english, i wanna warn everyone, two of my friends who ordered from format13 had their homes searched and mobiles and computers confiscated but didn't receive any weed from f13."
WTF let's see what happens, if they are isolated cases or if someone else will has the same visit, in any case I won't use no more my real address...
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Its time for SR to do something, maybe become private and have a new url with only trusted and selected people ...
ehhhh... nope =)
The whole point of SR is: it is a PUBLIC and anonymous , free market.
There are already enough super secret private boards out there...
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Those golden pills looked damn tasty. I would love to get my hands on some of them someday if they were ever pressed.
It sucks for the people that got ripped off, but the warning signs were definitely there. Even I nearly dropped some btc on him. Dondada's post really pulled me back to reality. Thanks mate! I owe you one.
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I ordered some weed too and im still in escrow. Can i fasten things up to get my BTC back? Should i contact an admin or wait for the resolution center?
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I ordered some weed too and im still in escrow. Can i fasten things up to get my BTC back? Should i contact an admin or wait for the resolution center?
you have to stay till the resolution is active then make a small post there sayn you want the 100% refund and wait till the staff has the time to look into it.
sorry, thats the way it works...
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got my refund, thx SR Staff.
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Got my refund too, even before the "time before admin steps in" ran out.
Thank you, staff.
Also, no cops at my door so far.
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The guy who didn't speak english was a client, not format13.
He said:
"Sorry for my bad english, i wanna warn everyone, two of my friends who ordered from format13 had their homes searched and mobiles and computers confiscated but didn't receive any weed from f13."
How come that a few people did indeed receive samples from him? Police don't send drugs to your house! Also, they would have busted a few more homes at the same time, so nobody gets warned.
How come you are able to navigate TOR, Silk road and it's forums without basic English?
How come we get so little details? If he had to post in german, he could at least have posted a few more details like "How much did they order" and when.
...probably FORMAT13, maximally trolling his scammed customers :P
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Got my refund an no cops ... :)
thanks SR Staff
i agree to 0xDEADBEEF, seems like format13 is trolling at highest level :D
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Got my refund an no cops ... :)
thanks SR Staff
i agree to 0xDEADBEEF, seems like format13 is trolling at highest level :D
trolling and laughing at us.... =/
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@DEADBEEF he might've passed on addresses to LE.
About that german's english skills... BullDog (italian vendor i think) sells weed here and speaks absolutely no english. So you see, it's possible ;p
but I agree, f13 is prolly just trolling :D
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no news are good news, i guess?
i also got no visit from the friendly men in green yet... ;)
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no news are good news, i guess?
i also got no visit from the friendly men in green yet... ;)
Nothing here, either.
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Nothing here too :)
Seems like a uber-troll.