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Title: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 08, 2011, 06:15 am
ordered 5 different items
from different sellers at different times
(so that it's all not being shipped at once)
but it's been a while now and NOTHING has come through for any of it.
But I'm still receiving mail for other stuff.. such as bills and whatnot..

how paranoid should i be :/?

(This is in Australia for the record)
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: hairyballs on November 08, 2011, 09:25 am
i know how your feeling jj

i have three recent orders, and only one has turned up so far... already over two weeks so i'm a little worried.

though i will wait a little longer i guess

so far for me, 2 received, 1 not received, 2 still waiting

fuck our customs really suck :(
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: filthymuk on November 08, 2011, 11:58 am
how long has it been jj??

hopefully all is well and its just taking some time...i've heard of people's stuff taking 3+ weeks to arrive...

im only 8 days in waiting for mine from belgium by pillowtalk...but all his listing have suddenly disappeared just now so hope everything is ok..
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: treehuggerx on November 08, 2011, 12:44 pm
Don't order more stuff until you know whats going on!

One way to test for screening is to order some legal drug paraphernalia, like a pipe or a bong.
Something cheap still bulky enough to be sant as a package.
Look at it as you buying information about any customs action against your person.

This is a double edged sword tho... if customs were not screening your mail in the first place
they might start doing it after that.

Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 08, 2011, 08:45 pm
it's been like 5 weeks.. and i'm not ordering more stuff..
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: gumby on November 09, 2011, 09:46 pm
Pay to order something legal from one of those sellers? See if it makes it through?
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: mito on November 09, 2011, 10:40 pm
Mail yourself 1 gram of salt inside a nicely prepared and sealed envelope, just like SR sellers here would  do so professionally.

Let us know if you receive it.  If you do, then you're not being monitored.

You might want to write a small note inside the envelope that says "FUCK OFF PIGS"
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 09, 2011, 11:56 pm
Mail yourself 1 gram of salt inside a nicely prepared and sealed envelope, just like SR sellers here would  do so professionally.

Let us know if you receive it.  If you do, then you're not being monitored.

You might want to write a small note inside the envelope that says "FUCK OFF PIGS"

good idea
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: hairyballs on November 10, 2011, 01:06 am
One thing JJ

If your address has been flagged by AU Customs, then sending a domestic letter will not be screened...

We don't have a postal inspection service like in the US. Auspost have to call the police if it finds a suspicious parcel.

Just my 2c
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: gumby on November 10, 2011, 02:59 am
Mail yourself 1 gram of salt inside a nicely prepared and sealed envelope, just like SR sellers here would  do so professionally.

Let us know if you receive it.  If you do, then you're not being monitored.

You might want to write a small note inside the envelope that says "FUCK OFF PIGS"

Maybe don't taunt the cops? But good idea
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 10, 2011, 08:26 am
Okay, shit just got more confusing..
my LSD from freedompeople ARRIVED!!
but the package was open?
(it was too well hidden so anyone opening the package would not of known)

I go to my mailbox and get the mail directly from the postman when he gets here.
so no one is coming by and stealing my shit..

do you think some guy at the post office is taking my stuff?
or it's just delayed?

What does not make sense to me is i asked for a SAMPLE of mdma off ziggy..
all the newbies received there's last Friday and it's Thursday now and i still have not received mine
(and he lives in my country so it's not like it would take ages)
Perhaps ziggy is a scammer?
Perhaps it's just a weird delay?
Perhaps someone at the post office is stealing my stuff?
or perhaps something else?

this is really quite a mystery!
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: gumby on November 10, 2011, 09:05 am
Well if you've read what dutchshop has said, he advises to place orders spaced out. As in placing a bunch of orders all at once/ from a bunch of different vendors puts you at risk.

Also LSD blotter? thats like the easiest thing to sneak it probably, if I saw it I wouldn't know what it was.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 10, 2011, 09:22 am
Well if you've read what dutchshop has said, he advises to place orders spaced out. As in placing a bunch of orders all at once/ from a bunch of different vendors puts you at risk.

Also LSD blotter? thats like the easiest thing to sneak it probably, if I saw it I wouldn't know what it was.

"ordered 5 different items
from different sellers at different times"

"at different times"

It was spaced out. Trust me, it was thought out before hand.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: mito on November 10, 2011, 12:46 pm
Okay, shit just got more confusing..
my LSD from freedompeople ARRIVED!!
but the package was open?
(it was too well hidden so anyone opening the package would not of known)

So your LSD arrived, though the package/envelope was opened, right?

Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 11, 2011, 01:45 am
Okay, shit just got more confusing..
my LSD from freedompeople ARRIVED!!
but the package was open?
(it was too well hidden so anyone opening the package would not of known)

So your LSD arrived, though the package/envelope was opened, right?

correct.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: blank on November 11, 2011, 07:10 am
ummm... if it was me, I'd be worried.

If Ziggy's didn't get through there may be some sort of domestic look-looky-chicanery going on.

I agree with the above "send salt in the mail" idea but I'd write a recipe using salt instead.
Mmmm... baked potatoes.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: dr octagon on November 11, 2011, 05:55 pm
None of this makes any sense.  Local cops aren't going to be opening your mail unless it has been sent within Australia and they have been called by Aus Post.

Customs will re-seal your envelope with green tape if it has been inspected. If there are drugs inside and they have been found it would be up to the AFP as to how to proceed.

If there was a bunch of acid inside and they did actually find it and let it go through to you for operational reasons, you would have already been paid a visit.

Unless you are ordering decent amounts and or have been previously flagged I doubt there is a sting operation in effect.

Yes, you should be concerned if 5 packages don't arrive.

That would probably be an SR record unless you have already had 10 through.

Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: mito on November 11, 2011, 11:06 pm

Quote
So your LSD arrived, though the package/envelope was opened, right?

correct.


Well then eat them all before the cops bust you!     8)

 ;D
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 12, 2011, 01:12 am
Good news, another order from overseas arrived.. but so far nothing from ziggy..
(and he's domestic.)

I honestly have absolutely no idea what is going on..
this is a pretty dodgy sting operation if police are just opening my mail and not even closing it up or something..

I'm glad stuff is coming through still, this is a real mind-fuck and i'd love to get to the bottom of it for certain.
until then i'll just have to use a new shipping address.

Thank you for all your help :) if you have more advice please feel free to post it.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 12, 2011, 01:14 am
@dr octagon i didnt mean local cops, was talking AFP.
i did read an interpol article where 81 countries all participated in a clamp down on illegal goods in the post, particular dodgy meds like xanax, stiffy pills etc.... sometime around the end of november.
australia and nz being two of the countries.  http://www.interpol.int/fr/Criminalit%C3%A9/Criminalit%C3%A9-pharmaceutique/Operations/Operation-Pangea

makes for a good read. 
as stated above, its also unlikely a sting was set up, unless the amounts were an oz here and there of this and that. but ya never know, they might just collect packages (say your 5) then when they have enough of a case, they might press forward on making a case as the AFP and govt here knows all about SR...

that link doesn't work :(
this is upsetting news too.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: blank on November 12, 2011, 01:25 am
wait..
are you saying the latest package to arrive was also opened?
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 12, 2011, 11:40 am
wait..
are you saying the latest package to arrive was also opened?

newest package to arrive was not open
package before that was opened.
ziggy's domestic shipment never arrived :/.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: AussieBeanz on November 12, 2011, 12:11 pm
Ziggy seems like a scam artist, chances are he created all those other accounts and wrote bullshit reports. I'd be more concerned with him having your address.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 12, 2011, 12:18 pm
Ziggy seems like a scam artist, chances are he created all those other accounts and wrote bullshit reports. I'd be more concerned with him having your address.

This seems like a much more logical conclusion to me.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on November 12, 2011, 01:18 pm
Ziggy seems like a scam artist, chances are he created all those other accounts and wrote bullshit reports. I'd be more concerned with him having your address.

This seems like a much more logical conclusion to me.

Dear JesusJoints!  :)

Please be careful with these new guys sending out "free" samples, I would never accept any of them!

You have NO REASON to trust these potential scammers and no need to hand them your address either.

We wan't to look out for our customers and make sure they are safe from blood sucking scammers, we HATE them with a passion!

EnterTheMatrix  8)
has been a member for 3 months
was last seen: today
ranked #46 out of 222 sellers with 99.5% positive feedback from 195 transactions
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 13, 2011, 12:15 am
I get what your saying, although i do take precautions with my online presence and shipping address.
I'm not going to go as far to say Ziggy is a scammer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
and assume that he probably just wrote the name on the letter very poorly.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: enddox on November 13, 2011, 03:53 pm
I'm going to chip in here as one of the "bullshit" accounts that Ziggy created.

First of all to JesusJoints if you have had various packages not turning up then why would Ziggy's not be just another one of those missing letters? I don't know your MO but maybe it now needs some tweaking to get them letters through. :)

Secondly, what exactly is Ziggy trying to scam? He simply offered to send out some samples of his product as he wanted to get some feedback started. Fair enough surely?

I took proper precautions and Ziggy came through with what he said he would - decent MDMA powder - and as I said in my review it really was decent. We have been desperate here in Oz for suppliers at good prices and during my conversations with him that was just the feeling I got. A guy trying to establish himself.

In regards to calling everyone and his dog a scammer, well how do we really know that anyone or everyone is not a potential scammer or LE?

If I was LE I wouldn't be trying to catch a few one-offs I would be compiling long lists of regular customers so I would probably stick around and offer decent service for a few months then WHAM! what a bunch of useful info I would have.

As I said to Ziggy when I first volunteered for a sample that I am in no way a 'forum whore' but I've been here since July so I know how things work.

Let's not scare potential local sellers off with all this paranoid scammer mentality? huh?
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 14, 2011, 01:44 am
I'm going to chip in here as one of the "bullshit" accounts that Ziggy created.

First of all to JesusJoints if you have had various packages not turning up then why would Ziggy's not be just another one of those missing letters? I don't know your MO but maybe it now needs some tweaking to get them letters through. :)

Secondly, what exactly is Ziggy trying to scam? He simply offered to send out some samples of his product as he wanted to get some feedback started. Fair enough surely?

I took proper precautions and Ziggy came through with what he said he would - decent MDMA powder - and as I said in my review it really was decent. We have been desperate here in Oz for suppliers at good prices and during my conversations with him that was just the feeling I got. A guy trying to establish himself.

In regards to calling everyone and his dog a scammer, well how do we really know that anyone or everyone is not a potential scammer or LE?

If I was LE I wouldn't be trying to catch a few one-offs I would be compiling long lists of regular customers so I would probably stick around and offer decent service for a few months then WHAM! what a bunch of useful info I would have.

As I said to Ziggy when I first volunteered for a sample that I am in no way a 'forum whore' but I've been here since July so I know how things work.

Let's not scare potential local sellers off with all this paranoid scammer mentality? huh?

For the record i said.
"I'm not going to go as far to say Ziggy is a scammer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
and assume that he probably just wrote the name on the letter very poorly."
I don't think ziggy is a scammer, either the guy at the post office stole it or he wrote the address poorly..

so far 2 of my packages have arrived and the other 3 are supposed to arrive this week..
so i'm not very stressed.. everything seems to be back on track now..
except what happened to ziggys product still remains a mystery! :P haha.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: Cgault on November 14, 2011, 10:24 pm
I have a scorecard question:

2 out of five came, 1 opened without a any customs tape or confiscation (Love) letter. Right?

Did the opened package contain something, like blotter, that could have been overlooked if a bust postal or customs inspector was just rushed. In the USA, Customs always stamps the package inspected - even if nothing was discovered. Postal Inspectors may open and reseal without a word if an investigation is a possibility.

How did the open package contents look to you? Did it scream BLOTTER ACID, or could it have been passed by? A bunch of paper. Could the sender have made a sealing mistake? maybe customs opened but didn't finish the inspections. How clean was the opening.?
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 15, 2011, 02:49 am
I have a scorecard question:

2 out of five came, 1 opened without a any customs tape or confiscation (Love) letter. Right?

Did the opened package contain something, like blotter, that could have been overlooked if a bust postal or customs inspector was just rushed. In the USA, Customs always stamps the package inspected - even if nothing was discovered. Postal Inspectors may open and reseal without a word if an investigation is a possibility.

How did the open package contents look to you? Did it scream BLOTTER ACID, or could it have been passed by? A bunch of paper. Could the sender have made a sealing mistake? maybe customs opened but didn't finish the inspections. How clean was the opening.?

It did not look like there was blotters inside.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: Cgault on November 15, 2011, 03:14 am
I bet that you will get 4 or 5 out of 5
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 15, 2011, 04:48 am
i hope so Cgault..
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: benjiboo on November 15, 2011, 04:51 pm
It might be a better idea to open up a PO box at your local post office or a personal mail box "PMB" at a UPS store which accepts UPS deliveries, unlike PO boxes.
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: ziggy on November 16, 2011, 09:22 am
only just saw this thread, obviously not much credibility coming from me-- but i'm no scam lol.

must have either been lost in the mail or i miswrote the address. but believe what you want.

plus, i've PM'd you about resending the sample, to which you haven't replied. it's a shame that it hasn't arrived to you, since you're the only person i sent a sample to with a high post count (besides, enddox, but his is only 30 or so)..

anyway, please don't purport lies saying i'm scamming based on one thing, i really don't understand why it hasn't arrived yet :/
Title: Re: 5 orders not arrived.. how paranoid should i be?
Post by: jesusjoints on November 16, 2011, 10:10 am
only just saw this thread, obviously not much credibility coming from me-- but i'm no scam lol.

must have either been lost in the mail or i miswrote the address. but believe what you want.

plus, i've PM'd you about resending the sample, to which you haven't replied. it's a shame that it hasn't arrived to you, since you're the only person i sent a sample to with a high post count (besides, enddox, but his is only 30 or so)..

anyway, please don't purport lies saying i'm scamming based on one thing, i really don't understand why it hasn't arrived yet :/

I've said about twice now that i personally do not believe you are a scammer.
And i didn't reply to that resending of the sample for obvious reasons..
I already had 5 shipments that had not arrived and i didn't want to send that address again
and add more to the chain. I shall repeat... i do NOT think your a scammer.. Very unfortunate that nothing came through though :/.. That sample had me excited!