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Title: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: cerealbox on April 26, 2013, 09:19 pm
I want to know which drug combos are epic when used together. Give dose info if you know it.

Lately I've been thinking about doing some DMT right before I K-Hole or something like that.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: ghettohmbrglr on April 26, 2013, 09:41 pm
weed and beer
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: La Blue Girl on April 27, 2013, 02:37 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: Scampony on April 27, 2013, 02:54 am
Suddenly Wishlist.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: KintaroBC on April 27, 2013, 09:02 pm
PCP, MDPV, 25i-NBOMe
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: snark on April 27, 2013, 09:10 pm
I have had wonderful experiences combining MDMA/MDA. Dosage is usually around 125/60. I find that it really extends the roll and gives it extra energy as well as face melting euphoria. Keep in mind that I have a lot of experience with these drugs, those dosages may make some people sick.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: microdotter on April 28, 2013, 01:28 pm
Ketadrone -  Ketamine and Mephedrone :)

or Coke + Ketamine and MDMA
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: goblin on April 28, 2013, 09:13 pm
This is just about the only area where I'm a conservative. I think that combining drugs is a terrible idea. Second worst is following one drug closely with another, especially if they're not related chemically.

I mean, take care of your brain, you've only got one of'em. One drug is enough.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: Yoshitoshi on April 28, 2013, 09:24 pm
MXE, then MDMA, then 2 CB, then K

About half your "max"/normal dose of each. Wait til each has peaked before moving on...

If you are reckless enough to smoke some DMT after, you probably won't be disappointed...

Consuming is mindless; combining is art ;)

Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: angel555 on April 28, 2013, 09:47 pm
Ketadrone -  Ketamine and Mephedrone :)


Never done it myself but I've heard thats a mad combination  8)
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: oldtoby on April 29, 2013, 04:41 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

JediFlip - LSD + Shrooms followed by MDMA
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: Tellemetree on April 29, 2013, 04:49 am
Speedballs.

Sorry, not so PC but fact is they are great fun.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: clandestination on April 29, 2013, 11:53 am
+1 speedballs (provided good gear, which is pretty fucking unlikely unless rich or NOT on sr (lets face it... SR H is ok, but coke on average is very...average.

Strong LSD trip, amyl , nitrous. Pretty fucking awesome for 1-2 hours then you would prefer death :)

Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: alahverdian on April 29, 2013, 02:57 pm
this has been something i have started toying with more since getting on SR.
i must say, i think LSD & MDMA synthesize so well. but i think it is much better you wait a few hours before touching the MDMA, just let the acid do its thing until you start to get to peak. then, when yer in the thick of it, that X hits you like a ton of bricks and things get so crazy.
i love it.  but, one time i took the X too early, with a higher dose of acid and it didn't work out as well; i mean, i had a blast while the X was on, but then it started going away and I was left in a weird state where i didn't really realize how hard the acid still had me, so it ended up getting a little dark. but yeah.

i am actually planning to try hippy flipping and/or kitty flipping in the near future.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on April 29, 2013, 03:15 pm
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..

it isn't better to do first the mdma, and then the lsd? like, mdma and 2 hours later, the lsd?

i am thinking in doint that.. about 250 mdma and 2 hours later, 200ug lsd .. never done the kombo
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on April 29, 2013, 06:18 pm
this has been something i have started toying with more since getting on SR.
i must say, i think LSD & MDMA synthesize so well. but i think it is much better you wait a few hours before touching the MDMA, just let the acid do its thing until you start to get to peak. then, when yer in the thick of it, that X hits you like a ton of bricks and things get so crazy.
i love it.  but, one time i took the X too early, with a higher dose of acid and it didn't work out as well; i mean, i had a blast while the X was on, but then it started going away and I was left in a weird state where i didn't really realize how hard the acid still had me, so it ended up getting a little dark. but yeah.

i am actually planning to try hippy flipping and/or kitty flipping in the near future.

There's only, really, a few variables you have to calculate, and then you're set:

i) How long can you usually roll on a moderate dose of MDMA? (100-150mg)
ii) How long does a moderate dose of LSD (80-120ug) last for, for you? And how intense is it?
iii) How strong is your MDMA-displacement experience? (come-down)

Once you calculate the duration/intensity/implication of each of those drugs and their combinations (or if shrooms/DMT are your deal, just change those psychedelic combos with shrooms/DMT from LSD) then you have your golden answer.

If you're any joe-blow with semi-average tolerances to any substances, you just take the normal approach and alter to suit your liking and what is best for, safely just go with this:

LSD/MDMA: Drop 80-120ug of LSD, and about 2.5-3 hours in, drop your 100-150mg of MDMA (or 80-100mg initial drop, with a 50-60mg re-drop 30-60 minutes later)
Shrooms/MDMA: Consume 2-3grams of dried shrooms, or 25-30g wet shrooms (freshly, freshly picked) and 60-90 minutes later, do your MDMA drop and/or re-drop
DMT/MDMA (why would you even do this, DMT is god-like on it's own

I honestly think that just Psilocybin/MDMA, or LSD/MDMA are fucking incredible mixes on their own, or MDMA/GHB mixes, for come-down mitigation and sexual enhancement, are incredible.

But this is strictly my view on mixing drugs, which I really don't think is that great.

In my opinion, psychedelics are for exploring the mind. They are not for just BEING FULLY FKN FUKCED UP M8 N HAVING A SIKC TIEM. If you think the concept of psychedelics is just for achieving inebration and escaping reality, then you're doing them for the wrong fucking reasons.

And MDMA/Coke/etc are really just for the socially-uninhibited experience when dealing with a night surrounded with lots of people and you just want to party.

Combining drugs is really more of a let's-see-how-fucked-up-I-can-get type of adventure... But if I want to see how crazy LSD or Shrooms or DMT can get me, I'll just increase dosage, because let's admit it, on their own, in large doses, they can change your fucking life and entire perspective.

Combos often just leave you with a blank memory, or an overly-intense experience that you can risk neurotoxicity from, or just fucked up come-down.

Keep it simple.

Don't combine your drugs.

Combine your experiences.

Switch up your settings for each drug man, seriously, it makes a difference. Tired of boring old shit with MDMA/Acid/Shrooms/MDA/Coke/2c-i/b/c/d/e/f/g whatever? CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS!!!
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on April 29, 2013, 06:26 pm
this has been something i have started toying with more since getting on SR.
i must say, i think LSD & MDMA synthesize so well. but i think it is much better you wait a few hours before touching the MDMA, just let the acid do its thing until you start to get to peak. then, when yer in the thick of it, that X hits you like a ton of bricks and things get so crazy.
i love it.  but, one time i took the X too early, with a higher dose of acid and it didn't work out as well; i mean, i had a blast while the X was on, but then it started going away and I was left in a weird state where i didn't really realize how hard the acid still had me, so it ended up getting a little dark. but yeah.

i am actually planning to try hippy flipping and/or kitty flipping in the near future.

There's only, really, a few variables you have to calculate, and then you're set:

i) How long can you usually roll on a moderate dose of MDMA? (100-150mg)
ii) How long does a moderate dose of LSD (80-120ug) last for, for you? And how intense is it?
iii) How strong is your MDMA-displacement experience? (come-down)

Once you calculate the duration/intensity/implication of each of those drugs and their combinations (or if shrooms/DMT are your deal, just change those psychedelic combos with shrooms/DMT from LSD) then you have your golden answer.

If you're any joe-blow with semi-average tolerances to any substances, you just take the normal approach and alter to suit your liking and what is best for, safely just go with this:

LSD/MDMA: Drop 80-120ug of LSD, and about 2.5-3 hours in, drop your 100-150mg of MDMA (or 80-100mg initial drop, with a 50-60mg re-drop 30-60 minutes later)
Shrooms/MDMA: Consume 2-3grams of dried shrooms, or 25-30g wet shrooms (freshly, freshly picked) and 60-90 minutes later, do your MDMA drop and/or re-drop
DMT/MDMA (why would you even do this, DMT is god-like on it's own

I honestly think that just Psilocybin/MDMA, or LSD/MDMA are fucking incredible mixes on their own, or MDMA/GHB mixes, for come-down mitigation and sexual enhancement, are incredible.

But this is strictly my view on mixing drugs, which I really don't think is that great.

In my opinion, psychedelics are for exploring the mind. They are not for just BEING FULLY FKN FUKCED UP M8 N HAVING A SIKC TIEM. If you think the concept of psychedelics is just for achieving inebration and escaping reality, then you're doing them for the wrong fucking reasons.

And MDMA/Coke/etc are really just for the socially-uninhibited experience when dealing with a night surrounded with lots of people and you just want to party.

Combining drugs is really more of a let's-see-how-fucked-up-I-can-get type of adventure... But if I want to see how crazy LSD or Shrooms or DMT can get me, I'll just increase dosage, because let's admit it, on their own, in large doses, they can change your fucking life and entire perspective.

Combos often just leave you with a blank memory, or an overly-intense experience that you can risk neurotoxicity from, or just fucked up come-down.

Keep it simple.

Don't combine your drugs.

Combine your experiences.

Switch up your settings for each drug man, seriously, it makes a difference. Tired of boring old shit with MDMA/Acid/Shrooms/MDA/Coke/2c-i/b/c/d/e/f/g whatever? CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS!!!

why so lower doses? when i use mdma or lsd, it's to be rolling for several hours.. at least 8 hours i want to roll hard, really enjoying the music

i was thinking in 250mg mdma and 2 hours late, 200ug lsd and 3 hours late, maybe another 200ug lsd.

i only used mdma a couple of times, but you all talk of doses between 100 and 200, and i always used 200-300 per dose, even my first time was with 250~300 ( and it was a fucking good night lol )
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on April 29, 2013, 06:40 pm
It is entirely subjective, but honestly, this is the most "average" number I could summarize in my head based on my experience with people who have NEVER DONE PURE MDMA BEFORE (in my area, MDMA is extremely hard to come by, even for reasonably connected people). For these people, 100-150mg of MDMA parachuted or anally ingested, is enough to produce a fucking hard roll for 5-6 hours, with a minimal comedown and MDMA hang-over.

Plus, for people like this, 200-300ug of LSD is, by any standard, a heavy dose. Even someone like me, who has some moderate experience with LSD and level 3-4 experiences, (and I'm a big guy too; 200lbs), 200-300ug is a heavy dose. Again, for people who do it extremely rarely, or never, these doses are considered very heavy.

Not everybody has battle axe tolerances. I did state EXPLICITLY, that my numbers were the best averages for normal joe-blows.

For heavier users, clearly the option would be just to bump the doses up by a few tens of percentages :) But yeah, I give those numbers by a loose definition, with no motivation to write up proper dosings, as I think combos are really not as rewarding as just increasing dosages of the active and intricate substance at hand (the psychedelic drug, 99% of the time)
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: Minchia on April 29, 2013, 06:54 pm
i really love to start partying with 0.3-0.5 (depending on quali) Opium orally
gives you a nice basic feel wich is a great way to dive in the worlds of other drugs.

works great in combo with Ketamine but also with Lsd, Mdma ecc...
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on April 29, 2013, 06:59 pm
It is entirely subjective, but honestly, this is the most "average" number I could summarize in my head based on my experience with people who have NEVER DONE PURE MDMA BEFORE (in my area, MDMA is extremely hard to come by, even for reasonably connected people). For these people, 100-150mg of MDMA parachuted or anally ingested, is enough to produce a fucking hard roll for 5-6 hours, with a minimal comedown and MDMA hang-over.

Plus, for people like this, 200-300ug of LSD is, by any standard, a heavy dose. Even someone like me, who has some moderate experience with LSD and level 3-4 experiences, (and I'm a big guy too; 200lbs), 200-300ug is a heavy dose. Again, for people who do it extremely rarely, or never, these doses are considered very heavy.

Not everybody has battle axe tolerances. I did state EXPLICITLY, that my numbers were the best averages for normal joe-blows.

For heavier users, clearly the option would be just to bump the doses up by a few tens of percentages :) But yeah, I give those numbers by a loose definition, with no motivation to write up proper dosings, as I think combos are really not as rewarding as just increasing dosages of the active and intricate substance at hand (the psychedelic drug, 99% of the time)

why would someone anally insert the mdma? why not drinking or snorting? and how to they to that? oO

you think 200ug is a heavy dose to someone that isn't familiarized with lsd.. well, maybe i will follow your advice, and go with 150ug
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: m4rc0 on April 29, 2013, 10:46 pm
It is entirely subjective, but honestly, this is the most "average" number I could summarize in my head based on my experience with people who have NEVER DONE PURE MDMA BEFORE (in my area, MDMA is extremely hard to come by, even for reasonably connected people). For these people, 100-150mg of MDMA parachuted or anally ingested, is enough to produce a fucking hard roll for 5-6 hours, with a minimal comedown and MDMA hang-over.

Plus, for people like this, 200-300ug of LSD is, by any standard, a heavy dose. Even someone like me, who has some moderate experience with LSD and level 3-4 experiences, (and I'm a big guy too; 200lbs), 200-300ug is a heavy dose. Again, for people who do it extremely rarely, or never, these doses are considered very heavy.

Not everybody has battle axe tolerances. I did state EXPLICITLY, that my numbers were the best averages for normal joe-blows.

For heavier users, clearly the option would be just to bump the doses up by a few tens of percentages :) But yeah, I give those numbers by a loose definition, with no motivation to write up proper dosings, as I think combos are really not as rewarding as just increasing dosages of the active and intricate substance at hand (the psychedelic drug, 99% of the time)

why would someone anally insert the mdma? why not drinking or snorting? and how to they to that? oO

you think 200ug is a heavy dose to someone that isn't familiarized with lsd.. well, maybe i will follow your advice, and go with 150ug


I think it is. My first dose was 1 hit. 150ug. I tripped balls and never want to do it again haha.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on April 30, 2013, 05:54 am
It is entirely subjective, but honestly, this is the most "average" number I could summarize in my head based on my experience with people who have NEVER DONE PURE MDMA BEFORE (in my area, MDMA is extremely hard to come by, even for reasonably connected people). For these people, 100-150mg of MDMA parachuted or anally ingested, is enough to produce a fucking hard roll for 5-6 hours, with a minimal comedown and MDMA hang-over.

Plus, for people like this, 200-300ug of LSD is, by any standard, a heavy dose. Even someone like me, who has some moderate experience with LSD and level 3-4 experiences, (and I'm a big guy too; 200lbs), 200-300ug is a heavy dose. Again, for people who do it extremely rarely, or never, these doses are considered very heavy.

Not everybody has battle axe tolerances. I did state EXPLICITLY, that my numbers were the best averages for normal joe-blows.

For heavier users, clearly the option would be just to bump the doses up by a few tens of percentages :) But yeah, I give those numbers by a loose definition, with no motivation to write up proper dosings, as I think combos are really not as rewarding as just increasing dosages of the active and intricate substance at hand (the psychedelic drug, 99% of the time)

why would someone anally insert the mdma? why not drinking or snorting? and how to they to that? oO

you think 200ug is a heavy dose to someone that isn't familiarized with lsd.. well, maybe i will follow your advice, and go with 150ug


I think it is. My first dose was 1 hit. 150ug. I tripped balls and never want to do it again haha.

Absolutely. If you aren't familiar with LSD and its effects, then even 150ug is a very heavy dose... It also depends on your propensity to psychedelic-sensitive responses. If you trip hard by nature on small doses (not a band thing; more rewarding, lighter on your wallet). 200ug is a VERY heavy dose for a newbie, and I think it would just produce something that is too much to make any sense of.

Then again, there are veterans on here that think all newbies should have their first trip just be a fucking mind-bender... But I disagree, I think newbies should work their way up through levels of tripping over time, so they can have a good idea of set and setting and know what to expect at least... Most people, like you, get scared away from an otherwise absolutely beautiful and holy drug by tripping too hard on your first time, I just think it's stupid.

When taken intelligently and with good preparation, acid is bar far, BY FAR, the best drug in existence, nothing even comes close to the rewards you can get from LSD or Shrooms for that matter
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: La Blue Girl on April 30, 2013, 06:32 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

JediFlip - LSD + Shrooms followed by MDMA

AH YES I knew I forgot one!! LOL
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: La Blue Girl on April 30, 2013, 06:46 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..

it isn't better to do first the mdma, and then the lsd? like, mdma and 2 hours later, the lsd?

i am thinking in doint that.. about 250 mdma and 2 hours later, 200ug lsd .. never done the kombo

You CAN do it ether way.. BUT MOST people like it LSD then MDMA.. The issue with doing the MDMA first is that it wears off and you have 5 to 6 hours of LSD still kicking in your system and it can take you to a dark place on the come down.. Most people that like to do the MDMA first then the LSD tend to have something else to chase it with like GHB, Benzo ect..

 By doing the LSD first you can have the strong peak of the LSD fly the universe then drop the MDMA and peak again but with the added hyper color, OEV, CEV that LSD has to offer on the come down..

as for the dosage , if you have quality MDMA you don't need 250mg on a flip.. 150mg will do you and if an hour later your not where you want to be drop a tiny bit more.. but re-dosing is not advised as common practice ..


Edited for a note on Plugging ( AKA anal administration) Just as with sublingual ( allowing it to melt in your mouth mostly under the tongue and not swallowing your saliva for 15 - 20 mins) it bypasses the first level of your metabolism allowing more of the MDMA to gain access to your system. The membranes in both  areas of the system (mouth and rectal tissue) are very thin and allow for come up to be obtained faster and less product lost VS Oral. When taken Orally you lose some product to the acid in your digestive tract. Come up for Sublingual and Plugging is about the same 15 to 20 mins give or take a bit.. I have had a Sulingual dose hit me on a full tummy in less then 5 mins before.. That is another advantage to plugging or Sublingaul administration, You can eat before hand and not have it effect your come up or roll time.. In fact if you eat a really healthy meal like a nice salad with a little protein like grilled chicken or boiled egg it will help the roll and you will have a softer come down..

 My fav for MDMA is sublingual by far, my other half ( who is male btw) seems to like plugging the best... We both like to take our dosages and then chase them with 5 hour energy drinks, NOT monster or red bull, 5 Hour Energy.. You system uses the B vits as fuel for your roll and eases the come down.. 5HTP to follow on the come down..
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on April 30, 2013, 07:16 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..

it isn't better to do first the mdma, and then the lsd? like, mdma and 2 hours later, the lsd?

i am thinking in doint that.. about 250 mdma and 2 hours later, 200ug lsd .. never done the kombo

You CAN do it ether way.. BUT MOST people like it LSD then MDMA.. The issue with doing the MDMA first is that it wears off and you have 5 to 6 hours of LSD still kicking in your system and it can take you to a dark place on the come down.. Most people that like to do the MDMA first then the LSD tend to have something else to chase it with like GHB, Benzo ect..

 By doing the LSD first you can have the strong peak of the LSD fly the universe then drop the MDMA and peak again but with the added hyper color, OEV, CEV that LSD has to offer on the come down..

as for the dosage , if you have quality MDMA you don't need 250mg on a flip.. 150mg will do you and if an hour later your not where you want to be drop a tiny bit more.. but re-dosing is not advised as common practice ..


Edited for a note on Plugging ( AKA anal administration) Just as with sublingual ( allowing it to melt in your mouth mostly under the tongue and not swallowing your saliva for 15 - 20 mins) it bypasses the first level of your metabolism allowing more of the MDMA to gain access to your system. The membranes in both  areas of the system (mouth and rectal tissue) are very thin and allow for come up to be obtained faster and less product lost VS Oral. When taken Orally you lose some product to the acid in your digestive tract. Come up for Sublingual and Plugging is about the same 15 to 20 mins give or take a bit.. I have had a Sulingual dose hit me on a full tummy in less then 5 mins before.. That is another advantage to plugging or Sublingaul administration, You can eat before hand and not have it effect your come up or roll time.. In fact if you eat a really healthy meal like a nice salad with a little protein like grilled chicken or boiled egg it will help the roll and you will have a softer come down..

 My fav for MDMA is sublingual by far, my other half ( who is male btw) seems to like plugging the best... We both like to take our dosages and then chase them with 5 hour energy drinks, NOT monster or red bull, 5 Hour Energy.. You system uses the B vits as fuel for your roll and eases the come down.. 5HTP to follow on the come down..

This is some good advice, GHB would be way better to follow up the MDMA to soften/re-energize the come-down so as not to end up in a bad place mentally during a heavy LSD trip.

BUT, I still think the combos of these drugs are just a waste of money comparable to the reward given. Yeah, you'll have a blast, but really the suicidal tuesdays is unavoidable, no matter what you take to mitigate that serotonin imbalance and receptor blindness. You can busy yourself to take your mind off the come-down, but why bother with come-downs in the first place.

MDMA is a great drug, and so is LSD, the two together compliment each other very well, but if I wanted to have a "blast" on acid or a "blast" on MDMA, I'd just take them on their own but fiddle with dosages for the desired effect.

A lot of LSD can have a fucking great effect if that's what you're after
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: thegalactica420 on April 30, 2013, 07:21 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..

it isn't better to do first the mdma, and then the lsd? like, mdma and 2 hours later, the lsd?

i am thinking in doint that.. about 250 mdma and 2 hours later, 200ug lsd .. never done the kombo
No almost everyone would agree that psychedelics should be taken before stimulants so you dont start coming down while your still tripping. For me personally i like to stack my peaks and comedowns, what i mean by that is i time everything so i peak and comedown all at once. For lsd+mdma that would be something like drop the lsd, wait to see how fast it hits me then take mdma 2-3 hours later
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: CiscoYankerStuck on April 30, 2013, 07:27 am
PCP, MDPV, 25i-NBOMe
OMG that sounds potentially horrifying.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: taken on April 30, 2013, 08:04 am
Just to chime in on the whole candyflip /  hippyflip posts (esp. the candyflip) as well as a few other combos that are pretty amazing.

I have had many experiences with many drug combos, all in controlled environments with plenty of prior reading to each. My previous degree was in pharmacology so I'd like to think I'm pretty safe in the knowledge of what the combinations.

In terms of the hippyflip, always good fun. Something I found was that nausea could be a problem (both drugs are known to play with your stomach, especially the shrooms)
If you're dosing on what you'd consider a 'comfortable' quantity of shrooms then the MD (from my experience) detracts from the overall trip... but it does add a new twist to it.

As for the candyflip. If I really want to blow my mind I may use MD as a safety net. Drop a few more tabs then I normally would, wait half an hour and take low dose MD.
One thing I keep reading here is that it would appear that most people are only taking single doses of MD whilst candyflipping? This is something I'd recommend against- what happens when it wears off and all you're left with is an empty LSD feeling? There's room there for an unpleasant experience.
If you're going to candy flip then ALWAYS have enough MD to sustain you through the duration of your trip, and only take in relatively small doses as it still works wonders. If you're into the big fucked up feeling then go ahead with the bigger doses of MD! But again I feel it detracts from the mind exploring abilities of most psychedelics.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that's why it's all called xxxflip- you flip from a few seconds of being wired on MD and then you flip back to trippy.

Something else that I quite like is MD followed up by Na-GHB on the comedown. It takes the edge off whilst adding a new level of euphoria and allows for a more peaceful sleep... not to mention the sexual properties it brings.
I would exercise great caution here however as typical GHB doses vary wildly in liquid form (if you're getting GHB at all) so I always stick to Na-GHB powder from a trusted supplier. Something else is that GHB has quite a narrow therapeutic window meaning that, for example, a 2g dose might be perfect but add another half gram and you'll be asleep.

Something that I read earlier that was slightly concerning was someone who enjoyed the combo of MXE and MDMA. I'd strongly recommend taking these two substances even 24 hours apart. MXE is marketed as a ketamine analogue though its actual actions are not as similar as the ones marketing it would have you believe. I think this combination can be severely neurotoxic and should best be avoided. I remember a case of a northern European girl who mixed the two on one occasion and died, please don't ask me for the citation, google is your friend ;)

K however, following a night on MD (or even when you're on it!) is really nice. Adds a warm comforting feeling and takes away the strange feeling many report with taking ketamine alone.

I don't condone mixing substances without any prior knowledge of the effects or consequences. There are plenty of resources available online (won't name any in case of rules) and anyone wishing to experiment with combinations should investigate before trying. Some combos can be amazing fun, some less so.

If anyone else has any ideas for some new combos I'm all ears!!
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: Minchia on April 30, 2013, 08:24 am
smoking dmt while peaking on lsd i've read makes the lsd peak lasting much longer.
never tried it though..
i also find ketamine and dmt together interesting. but i guess this stuff is only for pros :)
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on April 30, 2013, 10:43 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..

it isn't better to do first the mdma, and then the lsd? like, mdma and 2 hours later, the lsd?

i am thinking in doint that.. about 250 mdma and 2 hours later, 200ug lsd .. never done the kombo

You CAN do it ether way.. BUT MOST people like it LSD then MDMA.. The issue with doing the MDMA first is that it wears off and you have 5 to 6 hours of LSD still kicking in your system and it can take you to a dark place on the come down.. Most people that like to do the MDMA first then the LSD tend to have something else to chase it with like GHB, Benzo ect..

 By doing the LSD first you can have the strong peak of the LSD fly the universe then drop the MDMA and peak again but with the added hyper color, OEV, CEV that LSD has to offer on the come down..

as for the dosage , if you have quality MDMA you don't need 250mg on a flip.. 150mg will do you and if an hour later your not where you want to be drop a tiny bit more.. but re-dosing is not advised as common practice ..


Edited for a note on Plugging ( AKA anal administration) Just as with sublingual ( allowing it to melt in your mouth mostly under the tongue and not swallowing your saliva for 15 - 20 mins) it bypasses the first level of your metabolism allowing more of the MDMA to gain access to your system. The membranes in both  areas of the system (mouth and rectal tissue) are very thin and allow for come up to be obtained faster and less product lost VS Oral. When taken Orally you lose some product to the acid in your digestive tract. Come up for Sublingual and Plugging is about the same 15 to 20 mins give or take a bit.. I have had a Sulingual dose hit me on a full tummy in less then 5 mins before.. That is another advantage to plugging or Sublingaul administration, You can eat before hand and not have it effect your come up or roll time.. In fact if you eat a really healthy meal like a nice salad with a little protein like grilled chicken or boiled egg it will help the roll and you will have a softer come down..

 My fav for MDMA is sublingual by far, my other half ( who is male btw) seems to like plugging the best... We both like to take our dosages and then chase them with 5 hour energy drinks, NOT monster or red bull, 5 Hour Energy.. You system uses the B vits as fuel for your roll and eases the come down.. 5HTP to follow on the come down..

i never got any mdma from the streets. i only rolled on mdma from here, 84%. My problem is that i can't make redoses of MDMA. to now, i have only ingested mdma. i use like 0.5lt of juice, and i put the mdma on the juice. even with 0.5lt of juice, i have a bad come up. many burps and very agressive, and i stay with my stomatch in "alarm" , i almost can't drink watter when i'm rolling.. each piece of water that i drink when rolling on mdma, i burp 1 or 2 times.

because of that, i'm thinking in start snorting the mdma. my stomach hate mdma lol

you say first the lsd and then the mdma because of the mdma comedown. so, why not redose the mdma?

even if i use lsd and 1 or 2 hours later, i use the mdma, that will not give-me 8-10 or 12 hours of full power, like i want too.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: proj on April 30, 2013, 02:05 pm
weed + opiates + benzos = pure bliss  8)

Just be careful because you will eventually be addicted or OD.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on May 01, 2013, 04:36 am
Candyflip - LSD followed later by MDMA

HippyFlip - Shrooms followed later my MDMA

KittyFlip - MDMA followed by Special K

MDMA and on the come down 1.5 to 2 gm of GHB

LSD and good quality Absinthe ( one to two glasses ) Offers a very CLEAR head.. You can also soak the LSD in the Absinthe ahead of time.. DONT forget to add COLD water / Ice drip

Just a few..

it isn't better to do first the mdma, and then the lsd? like, mdma and 2 hours later, the lsd?

i am thinking in doint that.. about 250 mdma and 2 hours later, 200ug lsd .. never done the kombo

You CAN do it ether way.. BUT MOST people like it LSD then MDMA.. The issue with doing the MDMA first is that it wears off and you have 5 to 6 hours of LSD still kicking in your system and it can take you to a dark place on the come down.. Most people that like to do the MDMA first then the LSD tend to have something else to chase it with like GHB, Benzo ect..

 By doing the LSD first you can have the strong peak of the LSD fly the universe then drop the MDMA and peak again but with the added hyper color, OEV, CEV that LSD has to offer on the come down..

as for the dosage , if you have quality MDMA you don't need 250mg on a flip.. 150mg will do you and if an hour later your not where you want to be drop a tiny bit more.. but re-dosing is not advised as common practice ..


Edited for a note on Plugging ( AKA anal administration) Just as with sublingual ( allowing it to melt in your mouth mostly under the tongue and not swallowing your saliva for 15 - 20 mins) it bypasses the first level of your metabolism allowing more of the MDMA to gain access to your system. The membranes in both  areas of the system (mouth and rectal tissue) are very thin and allow for come up to be obtained faster and less product lost VS Oral. When taken Orally you lose some product to the acid in your digestive tract. Come up for Sublingual and Plugging is about the same 15 to 20 mins give or take a bit.. I have had a Sulingual dose hit me on a full tummy in less then 5 mins before.. That is another advantage to plugging or Sublingaul administration, You can eat before hand and not have it effect your come up or roll time.. In fact if you eat a really healthy meal like a nice salad with a little protein like grilled chicken or boiled egg it will help the roll and you will have a softer come down..

 My fav for MDMA is sublingual by far, my other half ( who is male btw) seems to like plugging the best... We both like to take our dosages and then chase them with 5 hour energy drinks, NOT monster or red bull, 5 Hour Energy.. You system uses the B vits as fuel for your roll and eases the come down.. 5HTP to follow on the come down..

i never got any mdma from the streets. i only rolled on mdma from here, 84%. My problem is that i can't make redoses of MDMA. to now, i have only ingested mdma. i use like 0.5lt of juice, and i put the mdma on the juice. even with 0.5lt of juice, i have a bad come up. many burps and very agressive, and i stay with my stomatch in "alarm" , i almost can't drink watter when i'm rolling.. each piece of water that i drink when rolling on mdma, i burp 1 or 2 times.

because of that, i'm thinking in start snorting the mdma. my stomach hate mdma lol

you say first the lsd and then the mdma because of the mdma comedown. so, why not redose the mdma?

even if i use lsd and 1 or 2 hours later, i use the mdma, that will not give-me 8-10 or 12 hours of full power, like i want too.

You could snort, the bioavailability of the MDMA is small relative to the bioavailability of swallowing, shelfing or leaving on your gums/under tounge (I forget the terms).

Shoving up your ass would offer the most bioavailability, that wasn't a troll, and would probably help with your stomach issues related to ingestion of it.

But yeah, re-dosing MDMA is never really considered the best way to "keep the fire burning". You can start 2/3 of standard dose and re-dose with the remaining 1/3 of said dose about 45m to 1.5h later, but re-dosing after that is never a good idea. More to do with the insane serotonin imbalance it causes later on down the track, and will make the come-down fucking unbearable.

That's why I prefer keeping LSD and MDMA separate. MDMA is a fucking insane drug, but the aftermath of MDMA while still tripping just saddens the experience, compared to just being on a solitary dosage of LSD, where you can have an absolute blast, without the worry of an MDMA come-down fucking with your night. :)

Again, I love MDMA and think it's a great drug, but it's just something really to kept for special occasions. Not something to just think is super fun and doesn't have consequences.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: acidhead on May 01, 2013, 07:21 am
LSD + MDMA
LSD + edible cannabis
LSD + valium  (yes it does diminish intensity of the trip, but I like this combo in social settings)
LSD + low-dose Adderall
Adderall + valium
Adderall + alcohol
Shrooms + hashish
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: joywind on May 01, 2013, 07:33 am
combining MDMA with shrooms or LSD is a good way to get seratonin syndrome, dumbasses.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: thegalactica420 on May 01, 2013, 08:10 am
combining MDMA with shrooms or LSD is a good way to get seratonin syndrome, dumbasses.
Do you know what serotonin syndrome is? i dont believe there has been one single case of someone using responsible doses of mdma and mushrooms or mdma and lsd. The most common cases involve poly drug use with dxm and or a ssri/snri. mdma and serotonergic psychedelics is a tried and true combination that has been safely used by millions of people for decades.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: joywind on May 01, 2013, 08:19 am
combining MDMA with shrooms or LSD is a good way to get seratonin syndrome, dumbasses.
Do you know what serotonin syndrome is? i dont believe there has been one single case of someone using responsible doses of mdma and mushrooms or mdma and lsd. The most common cases involve poly drug use with dxm and or a ssri/snri. mdma and serotonergic psychedelics is a tried and true combination that has been safely used by millions of people for decades.
DURRR DURRRRR!!!!! LSD and MDMA are harmless DURRRR!!!!!! DRRRRRRR!!!!!. (insert retard smiley)

LSD and MDMA both effect the seratonin system. Surely, then COMBINING the two can lead to seratonon syndrome, you little mental midget.

Don't believe me? Check out wikipedia article on seratonin syndrome. It specifically mentions LSD. So why wouldn't combining it with MDMA which FLOODS the brain with seatonon -- lead to seratonone syndrome?

Logic fails you.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: chil on May 01, 2013, 09:37 am
weed + opiates + benzos = pure bliss  8)

This one makes me wet, however I won't be trying it since I know I might easily addicted on that kind of combo.

My two favourite combos so far are :

1) 2CB + Weed + Nitrous
2) LSD + MDMA + Nitrous

and a runner-up, 3) 5-MEO-MIPT + WEED + Nitrous.

Nitrous is like salt & pepper, a bit on top of everything.
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on May 01, 2013, 12:37 pm

You could snort, the bioavailability of the MDMA is small relative to the bioavailability of swallowing, shelfing or leaving on your gums/under tounge (I forget the terms).

Shoving up your ass would offer the most bioavailability, that wasn't a troll, and would probably help with your stomach issues related to ingestion of it.

But yeah, re-dosing MDMA is never really considered the best way to "keep the fire burning". You can start 2/3 of standard dose and re-dose with the remaining 1/3 of said dose about 45m to 1.5h later, but re-dosing after that is never a good idea. More to do with the insane serotonin imbalance it causes later on down the track, and will make the come-down fucking unbearable.

That's why I prefer keeping LSD and MDMA separate. MDMA is a fucking insane drug, but the aftermath of MDMA while still tripping just saddens the experience, compared to just being on a solitary dosage of LSD, where you can have an absolute blast, without the worry of an MDMA come-down fucking with your night. :)

Again, I love MDMA and think it's a great drug, but it's just something really to kept for special occasions. Not something to just think is super fun and doesn't have consequences.

but if i snort, i will not have any problems with my stomach, right?

What i see, its that here, in my country, people are very differents from what i read in here, the road. For example. Last trance concert that i went. we had some mdma. just mdma and some weed. i used about 250, in one dose. i had a friend mine, that in that night, he ingested 800 mg of the same mdma as i did. he was almost 12 hours rolling hard on mdma. he did it like 300 + 300 + 200, something like that. Here, the people, redose alot of mdma.. if the concert is like from 9pm to 6 pm, why not stay at least 12 hours rolling hard, rlly enjoying the concert?

that's what i want. if i snort the mdma, the next time i roll, i will do something like 150 ug lsd, 2 hours late 200 mdma, 3 hours late + 150ug, 2 hours late + 200mdma

and i doubt this is enought to roll 12 hours. i just want a MDMA that make me roll for 12 hours,   :P

btw, i just roll with 2 a 3 month between each roll :)
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on May 01, 2013, 03:37 pm
Yeah but the problem that they probably don't describe is the emotionally crippling aftermath of ingesting such a retarded amount of MDMA.

It's unavoidable with such a sheer amount. 800mg of pure MDMA is just... I don't even know, I wouldn't even dream of taking that much, regardless of tolerance, it's a stupid amount. The risk of neurotoxicity to the substance is massive, and now doubt can risk permanent issues with low serotonin and/or receptors not binding with serotonin, and will have to live the rest of their lives on medication.

You want to roll for 12 hours? Do it. Just prepare yourself mentally for the fucking horrifyingly, mind-boggling depression in the following week. Because you are going to want to kill yourself :P

That's basically the reason I only ever touch MDMA or any kind of pills every 4-5 months at the MOST, because after a while, the come-down FAR outweighs the good time for me, and all I can associate the "pinging" feeling with is the dread and despair that follows it up.

Just be safe please :)
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on May 01, 2013, 05:19 pm
and you think 800 is too mutch? the people here, that buys mdma from the streets, usually per night, use 1gr. many people here roll for 12 hours straight. there are people here going up to 2 or 3g's per night

and yes, the depression is bad.. but i have tried several mdma's from here, and one haven't give almost any depression.. neither to me, that used about 200 or 250 in that night, neither to my friends that used 800mg.

Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: Minchia on May 01, 2013, 06:08 pm
well i dont know where you guys are from,
and what kind of bad quality mdma you get on the streets
but 1g (or even 2-3) for one single person in one night is just surreal and stupid.
i guess ,maybe , it could be a one time thing but i cant imagine people doing this on a regular basis.
there are so many other good drugs for rolling 12h with less of a comedown like amphetamine or cocaine
where i come from people would take 0,5 max over a 12h period. cause they have other/better drugs
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on May 01, 2013, 06:28 pm
Europe :) well, here the mdma from the streets has nothing to do with the great mdma that we get here ;)

cocaine to 12h isn't very expensive? and cocaine its addicting, mdma you just have to have head and know that you should use it only from 2 to 2 months or 3 to 3..

here people with 16/17 years old in one trance night, they go up to 1 or 2gr mdma, cocaine and acids :\
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: ninjas on May 01, 2013, 07:19 pm
one of my favorits is like 1g good speed and like 8 xanax 1mg and some smoke:)
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on May 02, 2013, 01:04 am
2-3 grams of MDMA... Have you personally witnessed this or is this what these people are telling you?

There are people who have axe-wound tolerances to Meth and MDMA, nd 500-600mg of pure (key word: pure) MDMA is enough to knock them on their ass, obviously unless they've been doing it daily...

But beyond that 600-700, even 800mg mark.....ugh...  if you've taken it so frequently that you need anything more than 400-500mg to get a decent roll for a decent amount of time, I'm sorry but you've just put yourself at an enormous risk of neurotoxicity and subsequent serotonin problems in the aftermath.

I can't say I've seen anyone's lives "ruined" by taking too much Molly, but I've definitely seen people get a depressed, anti-social personally be amplified, and the only times they are happy is when they are on drugs.

Drugs aren't supposed to make real life worse, they're supposed to empower your sober thoughts and make you feel better about yourself.

Just my 2c worth of dick

Tell your friends to stop being silly willies
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on May 02, 2013, 09:46 am
that's what i see. i see people in their 3rd or 4rd time of mdma, going to 800 or 1gr. and  i see people, going like 10 hours straight, always drinking mdma. but i'm talking about mdma from the streets.

yes, i know that so mutch mdma, even with a break of 2 or 3 months per roll, it's very bad. but i understand them. I mean, maybe i dont do that because my stomach hate mdma, but when i am 4 or 5 hours rolling hard, they are 10 or 12.

But i'm talking about doing like 250mg + 250mg + 250mg + 250mg etc etc, not 1gr in one time.  here the normal, is between 3am and 12am, they roll hard. more than 12am, we have those of really abused
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on May 02, 2013, 10:12 am
that's what i see. i see people in their 3rd or 4rd time of mdma, going to 800 or 1gr. and  i see people, going like 10 hours straight, always drinking mdma. but i'm talking about mdma from the streets.

yes, i know that so mutch mdma, even with a break of 2 or 3 months per roll, it's very bad. but i understand them. I mean, maybe i dont do that because my stomach hate mdma, but when i am 4 or 5 hours rolling hard, they are 10 or 12.

But i'm talking about doing like 250mg + 250mg + 250mg + 250mg etc etc, not 1gr in one time.  here the normal, is between 3am and 12am, they roll hard. more than 12am, we have those of really abused

It's the continual redosing that causes the neurotoxicity. The longer the roll with continual redoses, the worse the comedown and risk of neurotoxicity.

If you were to take a big-ass hit of like 400-500 in one go and not take any more, your serotonin receptors won't be fucked from such a CONTINUING surge of serotonin transmitters thus causing a "blindness" per se to transmitters, instead, they will adapt accordingly for the brief (5-6 hours of intense rolling) surge of serotonin, and then allow for a speedy return to baseline excitation, rather than just being chronically damaged from the continuing surge.

"more" doesn't necessarily mean "better". It works the same way as vitamins: Pushing 100x the dose of multivitamins doesnt make your body absorb more, it basically just shuts down the gates of receptors and the entire lot just becomes wastage. Same with serotonin. "more" and "more of it" doesn't mean "better", eventually, your serotonin receptors just "turn off" and it takes fucking AGES to get a normal excitation flow again.

This is why pharmacological testing on humans recommended only a "single" re-dose, and allow for the chemical to ride out. Continual re-dosing is just not a good idea.

Shove it up your ass, seriously. The best way. Snort it if you must, but up the ass is where it's at. no homo
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: godness420 on May 02, 2013, 10:38 am
how do you shove mdma in the ass, in the middle of the hoods, with 500 or 1000 in the same space than you? i wouln't go to a dark place, in the hoods, shove something in my ass, there were the possibility of having another thing shove up the ass lol
Title: Re: Epic Drug Combos
Post by: gwendlesphere on May 02, 2013, 12:05 pm
I don't understand, do you mean at a music festival? Easy. Go to the toilet. Insert into bottom.

Happy fun times