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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: le botbahn on September 14, 2012, 02:17 am

Title: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: le botbahn on September 14, 2012, 02:17 am
So I tried.4 Aco.DMT last night for.the first time. I've researched the stuff quite and the consensus appears to be that it's slighty different but essentially a cleaner mushroom experience.

So I took 20 mg last night. Worst trip ever. Not a one aspect of it had any similarities to any of my shroom trips (good or bad), ever. Just one long 3.5-4hr menevolent mind fuck and ego gang raping. Never again.

It did, however, feel very much like some supposed DMT Changa I received from a vendor earlier this year. The only difference between these two experiences is that changa only lasted 1-1.5 hrs.

Both experiences have really put me off to both compounds.

 I wonder if the changa was fake and had been infused with 4-aco-dmt?

And if the 4-aco-dmt that I tried last night is legit (and I believe it is ),  I can't be alone in feeling that this is in no way, shape, or form similar to psilocybin mushrooms...right?

 Any thoughts?
Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: wretched on September 14, 2012, 04:09 am
the key is similar, not exactly the same. I find them 4-aco to be quite similar to shrooms with the auditory hallucinations and owtward growing focus, but it makes my legs shake (which shrooms don't) and it feels a bit tighter in my head. If you want exactly shrooms, then pick up some shrooms.


now to the other point, DMT lasted an hour and a half.....? are you serious? I get 20 minutes from take off to landing, and it is in absolutely NO way similar to 4-aco. 4-aco is like taking a flight on a 747, comes up pretty quick, you stay high for a while, then you come down and aren't quite sure what time it is.

DMT is like riding a mini rocket ship. OUTER SPACE RIGHT FUCKING NOW Mr spock, then teleport back to earth once the fuel runs out.
Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: BuddhaNature on September 14, 2012, 04:13 am
Shrooms can give bad trips too you know...

I'm sure tons of people have had wonderful eye opening trips on 4-aco-dmt just like 4oh-dmt (psilocin).

Some people who seem to know what they're talking about theorize that 4-aco-dmt is turned into 4oh-dmt in the body anyways. So theoretically it should be the same thing.

Are you experienced with shrooms? If you've done them many times you should know that all trips are different and sometimes you have the most beautiful experience and sometimes you have the raping that you experienced.

I personally find the two to be indistinguishable except that 4aco has no nausea.
Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: le botbahn on September 14, 2012, 05:51 am
Did any of pompous dicks even read my post?


Yes, I've done shrooms, many, many times. Good trips, bad trips. Good or bad, it's always a distinct experience and it's distinguishible from other tryptamines.

Sorry if my experience doesn't jive with your experience or marketing. I haven't tried yours. I'm sure it's vastly superior.

Also I stated Changa. Not DMT freebase. Changa sure as shit lasts 60-90 min. If a slimy vendor put 4-aco in place of DMT in a changa blend, it seems reasonable that it would be shorter acting than oral 4-aco, and fit the 60-90 min timeframe as well.




Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: BuddhaNature on September 14, 2012, 01:13 pm
Are you trolling?

Changa should last 20 minutes tops. Sounds like there's something weird going on with your changa. I doubt it's 4aco though, since it's more expensive than just extracting real DMT.

Also I'm not sure why you're calling us pompous dicks and asserting that we didn't read your post.  :-\

Still, the science would indicate that 4aco trip should be identical to a 4oh trip, minus whatever effect nausea has on a 4oh trip.
Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: A Riotous Defect on September 14, 2012, 09:36 pm
Are you trolling?

Changa should last 20 minutes tops. Sounds like there's something weird going on with your changa. I doubt it's 4aco though, since it's more expensive than just extracting real DMT.

Also I'm not sure why you're calling us pompous dicks and asserting that we didn't read your post.  :-\

Still, the science would indicate that 4aco trip should be identical to a 4oh trip, minus whatever effect nausea has on a 4oh trip.

I have to agree with you there. I've only done 4-aco a few times at some parties with my friends who like novel substances, and it's definitely compared to the shroom trips I've had. With the notable loss of nausea, too. I also think the come-up is a lot less scary than shrooms ( shrooms have always made me feel gross and nauseous and paranoid in the first hour or so after I take them )

I mean, 20 to me sounds like a lot simply because when I took mine I did anywhere from 10 - 15 and that was pretty strong to me. Although I'm pretty small and altogether more sensitive to psychedelics in general, so that could be it.
Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: digbickbandit on September 14, 2012, 10:07 pm
Everyone I know who's done 4 aco dmt compares it to shrooms....But hey, everyone is different.
Title: Re: My 4-Aco-DMT experience vs. DMT: wtf?
Post by: sl1pknot on September 14, 2012, 10:41 pm
I've had 4-aco once and it was extremely similar to a shroom trip, had a great time on 20mg. Would like to eat a few grams of shrooms and take a dose of 4-aco and see how it goes. Sounds like your drugs were weird, or whoever gave them to you used an inaccurate scale and you got a bigger dose than expected? Very possible, albeit unlikely if you got it from SR..