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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: CaptnFusion on December 28, 2012, 05:13 am

Title: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: CaptnFusion on December 28, 2012, 05:13 am
Well I was talking with someone about molly, and they were saying someone they know says the purest molly is supposed to be "amber"
From all my knowledge, including selling molly of various purities, cut in some cases, or most of the time straight from the lab, I always thought it should be white.
I've seen brown before, but I know that just has to do with skipping the acetone wash. I've looked into many recipes.

Was browsing mdma on SR and saw "amber" rocks and it brought back up my curiosity again.

Can anyone shed light on this for me?
What does the color mean? Is it more pure than white mdma?
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: kingdedede on December 28, 2012, 06:05 am
When I was younger I always thought "pure" MDMA was always white. Until a buddy came over with some brown stuff which was amazing, purer than anything that I hit prior to that.

You can "wash" the MDMA to change the color, so you CAN get pure white MDMA. But I've heard of white, grey, and brown MDMA, which is just the result of different impurities I believe.

I've never heard of orange/yellow colored molly, but I'm not the greatest expert of MDMA. But I know that different colors of MDMA do not necessarily represent the quality.

Hope I helped a little. Cheers.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: cyberscour on December 28, 2012, 06:47 am
It could possibly just be the producer wanting to "brand" his product with a slightly different recipe, addition of other drugs, or even just food coloring. Say you had blue MDMA, if it was really fucking good than you're going to try to find blue MDMA again.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: Ballzinator on December 28, 2012, 08:51 pm
The color of MDMA reveals nothing about its purity.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: wavelength on December 28, 2012, 09:09 pm
people think that brown mdma is pure because all of the white "molly" thats sold on the street is NOT mdma. pure mdma hcl is white/clear, just like methamphetamine
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: gambino on December 28, 2012, 09:37 pm
Pure MDMA is white.  But tan MDMA can be high purity also, because a very small amount of colored impurity can add a lot of color.  Darker colors can be indicative of a lower qulity product that was prepared with less skill or less care. But darker MDMA can still be potent, because, as stated, a small amount of a colored impurity can add a lot of color.  All that said, you cannot rely on color as an indicator of purity.  But don't ignore color either!
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: CaptnFusion on December 29, 2012, 03:40 am
It could possibly just be the producer wanting to "brand" his product with a slightly different recipe, addition of other drugs, or even just food coloring. Say you had blue MDMA, if it was really fucking good than you're going to try to find blue MDMA again.

Entirely possible, I heard about some purple molly before and it was supposedly really pure. I've thought about coloring molly a specific color if I were to make it.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: eclipsin on December 29, 2012, 05:37 am
I've always had better experience off of the tan/brown mdma.  Gotta love that black licorice smell from a good batch of molly. 
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: gambino on December 29, 2012, 06:00 am
It could possibly just be the producer wanting to "brand" his product with a slightly different recipe, addition of other drugs, or even just food coloring. Say you had blue MDMA, if it was really fucking good than you're going to try to find blue MDMA again.

Entirely possible, I heard about some purple molly before and it was supposedly really pure. I've thought about coloring molly a specific color if I were to make it.

I heard the blue meth coming out of Albuquerque is really good stuff. If blue meth is so good then purple molly can be good too.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: kandiflip1034 on December 30, 2012, 01:29 pm
coloring molly to brand it sounds funny.  Im sure it would work unless everyone started copying.  I mean isn't that what the idea behind a pressed pill is? Branding it so you will look for it?   I know these days pressed pills are always looked at suspiciously because there are so many bs ones out there. But atleast you would need a press to make pills.  You could have some good stuff make it blue with food coloring or whatever and then get it out there and then here comes joe blow with his methylone and makes it blue the same way to get people to buy his. Just a thought. Not bashing the idea though. For novelty purposes different color molly would be cool. Like red or green for christmas. Orange for halloween lol. Have some fun with it
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: gestaltassault2 on December 30, 2012, 08:52 pm
MDMA freebase is a reddish orange liquid...when it is converted to an HCl salt it can retain some of that orange-ish color before it goes through a an acetone wash...
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 31, 2012, 04:02 am
MDMA freebase is a reddish orange liquid...when it is converted to an HCl salt it can retain some of that orange-ish color before it goes through a an acetone wash...
Wouldn't the acetone wash actually be washing away the freebase, in that case? I don't know if MDMA is polar or non-polar or anything like that, but the idea that freebase is reddish-orange and that the conversion to a salt leaves some color behind... which goes away after an acetone wash? Sounds like the acetone is washing away some freebase.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: TheDevilsSon13 on December 31, 2012, 04:10 am
Real MDMA can be all types of colers, brown, orange, pink, they best i think is a darker greyish coler. It can be white too but normally people who sell you white molly its 4 mec or bk mdma. get more information online and learn how to tell the diffrence
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: cookie9001 on December 31, 2012, 04:44 am
I'm no scientist but I've had mdma of all colors (err tan, grey, white) and I have to say I've never really noticed much of a pattern to which color is more potent.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: stinkybreeze on December 31, 2012, 07:11 am
The color of MDMA reveals nothing about its purity.


^^^^^This
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: paxous on December 31, 2012, 05:22 pm
The color of MDMA reveals nothing about its purity.

Exacly. Just like LSD it depends on the synth process, the inicial products etc etc

not everything that shines is gold...
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: gambino on December 31, 2012, 09:21 pm
MDMA freebase is a reddish orange liquid...when it is converted to an HCl salt it can retain some of that orange-ish color before it goes through a an acetone wash...

No, MDMA free base is not reddish orange. It's a water white (aka clear) to off-white oily liquid.
Title: Re: Orange/yellow/amber MDMA?
Post by: gambino on December 31, 2012, 09:37 pm
The color of MDMA reveals nothing about its purity.

I have to disagree with this.  The presence of color indicates the presence of a colored impurity.  The absence of color indicates the absence of a colored impurity but not the absence of other impurities.  None of this indicates anything about potency,  mind you.  So to say that color reveals nothing about purity is not really true.  Color does reveal information about purity or lack of purity, but it won't tell you everything. Color is more useful as an indicator of a lack of purity.  A batch with too much color or smell can immediately be deemed impure.