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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: thesput on August 30, 2012, 01:31 pm
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Placed an order with MrCronk and it wasnt what i expected. I ordered half an ounce of thai but he sent 6g of amnesia instead. I just messaged him about it and he says he was having supply problems so sent it as a sub. Not had this problem before so i dont really know if i should just suck it up and release funds and give him his 5/5 or ask for a partial refund or something. Whats the usual course of action?
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It depends, if the Amnesia Haze is 2.3x stronger then the Thai then you got what you paid for. I would assume it is a lot stronger seeing as Thai is complete shit.
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This vendor is a crazy joker!
He think's that he can change your order as his choice without contacting first, i've ordered 1.1 gr of his "super fast next day amnesia haze" and i ended up with 2 grams of low-quality shake in the time of 2 weeks, i tried to reach an agreement with him for a 50% refound even if i should have ask 100% and he was accusing me to try to ruin his reputation...what a dick...at the end i went into resolution and sr gave me 50% refound..
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The AH would be stronger than the thai, but you received less than half the weight you payed for, so I'd say a 50% refund sounds reasonable.
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Some vendors are professional and see their business as just that, a legitimate business. Sounds like this vendor knows better than you what you should want. And then becomes belligerent when he is called on it. I would ask for 50% refund and then move on to another vendor.
Ever been to McDonalds and ordered a quarter pounder with cheese and gotten a big mac? No??? Think that would fly and their customers would keep coming back?
Tell him you expect that you will receive what you ordered, not a substitute. I don't care about the strength - you ordered 14g. If he didn't have it, he shouldn't have listed it. In my opinion, this is bordering on scam. Grrrrrr!!!
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Yeah, I agree with Hamb999.
This seems like a little bit of a scam or "selective scamming", If I were you I would not release funds until I received my fill half OZ of what I ordered.
I would go to SR help to resolve this issue, I would also send a msg to the seller thanking him for the free weed and letting him know you will enjoy smoking it while waiting on him to re ship the original order.
I would even try for a full 100% refund. In this case all the responsibility falls on the seller. He has no right to send out an other product then what you ordered...but I cant hate on the seller fully, if the seller has some sort of post in the listing advising clients that strains and amounts can be substitutable as he sees fit then you would be shit out of luck...
Beware, Be Aware, Be Fair
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What would I do?
I'd clap my hands and jump for joy mate! What should YOU do? -
Shut the fuck up, stop whingeing and smoke the Ammo!
It's undoubtedly better quality gunga, and where I'm from 6g of good quality Ammo would cost more than a half Z of crappy Thai, (pretty sure that applies to the prices here, have a look), you got a bargain, you got lucky, and you're acting like you got scammed, no mate you got LUCKY!
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What would I do?
I'd clap my hands and jump for joy mate! What should YOU do? -
Shut the fuck up, stop whingeing and smoke the Ammo!
It's undoubtedly better quality gunga, and where I'm from 6g of good quality Ammo would cost more than a half Z of crappy Thai, (pretty sure that applies to the prices here, have a look), you got a bargain, you got lucky, and you're acting like you got scammed, no mate you got LUCKY!
Interesting perspective. Perhaps I don't know enough about the Thai and Amnesia strains. Or any weed for that matter (although I smoke regularly). Maybe it was a good deal - financially. And I am willing to consider all sides and change my mind. Your perspective does make me rethink my scam comment.
However, when I place an order, I generally expect to get what I ordered unless the seller verifies the substitute in advance. It's just common courtesy. It really has less to do with cost/value.
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What would I do?
I'd clap my hands and jump for joy mate! What should YOU do? -
Shut the fuck up, stop whingeing and smoke the Ammo!
It's undoubtedly better quality gunga, and where I'm from 6g of good quality Ammo would cost more than a half Z of crappy Thai, (pretty sure that applies to the prices here, have a look), you got a bargain, you got lucky, and you're acting like you got scammed, no mate you got LUCKY!
Interesting perspective. Perhaps I don't know enough about the Thai and Amnesia strains. Or any weed for that matter (although I smoke regularly). Maybe it was a good deal - financially. And I am willing to consider all sides and change my mind. Your perspective does make me rethink my scam comment.
However, when I place an order, I generally expect to get what I ordered unless the seller verifies the substitute in advance. It's just common courtesy. It really has less to do with cost/value.
I will avoid this seller. Thanks for the info.
Disgusting behavior. Seller should have cancelled or offered options..
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Thanks for the feedback, needed some other oppinions. I can see why the seller would do it, i'm more annoyed because i've already got more expensive stuff and i ordered a bigger quantity of low quality weed on purpose, just wanted some cheap stuff for when mates want to grab a spliff off me. Instead i've got less than half the amount of something which although it may be better, is only going to last half as long. Its not like hes even sent a better deal as an apology for not having what i ordered in stock. Based on his listing price for amnesia what hes sent is worth 9.4B when the 14g thai is at 9.55B, not a big difference but i'm still being short changed for something i didn't want.
I've contacted MrCronk and asked for a 50% refund, if that fails ill leave it to SR to resolve it.
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What's with this "it's good quality/makes up for it" shit?
In all honesty I would give the seller no more than 2/5 and would expect a refund.
If you order something and are sent something entirely different without the seller having offered it as a replacement, you should be upset IMO.
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However, when I place an order, I generally expect to get what I ordered unless the seller verifies the substitute in advance. It's just common courtesy. It really has less to do with cost/value.
Exactly, it's more the principal than the value.
Also if he didn't have any thai in stock, then he shouldn't of had the listing up for it, or at least he could have cancelled the order and notified the buyer that it was out of stock for the time being.
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He should have contacted you first but to be honest 6g of AH is actually a lot more than 14g of thai .. so you certainly made the better deal this way.
Cheers
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I might be able to shed a bit of light on the situation, I placed an order late last week and have been chatting with him since. He claims that his 'Thai guy' has done a disappearing act since Bank Holiday Monday and he's been left having to substitute people's orders. I completely agree that he shouldn't sub anyone without consulting them first. If someone has opted to grab Thai, chances are it's because they prefer quantity over quality (or potency in this case). If I chose to order 14gs of Thai and got 6g of Haze I'd be pretty pissed too. But luckily, I was able to negotiate a bit. Surprised he can offer services on here without holding stock or having a reliable source.
I just grabbed one of his 1.8g sample packs containing Thai, Super Amnesia Haze and Cheese to see what his quality was like (and with a little caution from several reviews and things I've read in the forums). That was last weekend, he only got round to posting it today (I won't comment on his 'next day delivery'). I also chucked him an extra coin and a half to bulk up the pack a little. Cut the story short, with the Thai gone, his offer was 1.4g Cheese and 0.8 Haze for a total of 4.5BTC. Now, I'm not going to go into how fair that is or not but I'm just glad to be getting a delivery tomorrow after all the mucking around. He does seem like a nice guy, if perhaps a bit misguided/lazy.
Unless this stuff is real peng, I will be avoiding in the future.
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I cant believe my eyes,.... How some people think that because the weed is better that it should count towards more weight..... FORGET THAT!!
you list and sell 14 grams.. you gotta deliver that 14 grams....and if you dont have 14 grams of what i ordered i expect 14 grams of something on par or better then my order...
making a mistake like this is what i call a rookie move... he lost his hookup and did not know what to do. so panicked he sent you 6 grams hoping you would not mind...
Go for that refund... or ask him to send you 8 more grams!!!
that's what i think
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Okay, first and foremost, before anyone continues on this one, simply stating "6g of Amnesia Haze is worth more/ better than 14g of Thai' - it isn't.
MrCronk, who sells both, as posted above - would've sold the amount the OP received for 9.4 BTC but actually paid 9.55 BTC. This difference may be negatable, but the broken principle still stands. I had a 'based on principle' complaint with another seller, despite me receiving the total quantity that I ordered.
Originally was getting 1.5oz of Medical Grade from 'TheCompany'. This was supposed to be 14g Obama Kush, 14g Super OG, 14g another strain of which the name escapes me. Anyhow, the first package was 14g of an unknown - to the seller - unmarked strain, the second was 28g of SFV OG Kush - which contained seeds and wasn't grown perfectly. So obviously, not something that was sold in a West-Coast medical marijuana dispensary, nor was it 'medical grade' cannabis.
But the seller simply failed to inform me about the lack of my requested strains.
How people can do this is just incredible. It may be dealing with illegal drugs, whatever, but if a seller is going to pay the fee in order to sell, the very least they should do is - when a product that someone's placed an order for is unavailable - to tell their buyers this! Unbelieveable.
Thanks for the information. I've also had a read in other forums and have made up my own mind - this is a seller to avoid. If they can't be honest with people, they don't get my custom.
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Guys, now I'm the one needing advice.
So I got my order in the post today, the 'Super Amnesia Haze' (I've smoked the shit before, this ain't it, or it's grown horribly) is heavily sprayed, three small buds and a load of scrag. I wouldn't dream of smoking it. There was also 0.3 of loose stalk added to my Cheese. The whole lot was heavily flatted, but I won't blame Cronk for that.
The cheese is well grown, cured and sticky otherwise. Just enjoyed a spliff. Ended up with 1.1g of cheese and 0.8 of some shitty sprayed bud for 4.5BTC.
Last thing I want is a partial refund already with only like 5 transactions to date. I want to be fair about it.
What would you do?
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Guys, now I'm the one needing advice.
So I got my order in the post today, the 'Super Amnesia Haze' (I've smoked the shit before, this ain't it, or it's grown horribly) is heavily sprayed, three small buds and a load of scrag. I wouldn't dream of smoking it. There was also 0.3 of loose stalk added to my Cheese. The whole lot was heavily flatted, but I won't blame Cronk for that.
The cheese is well grown, cured and sticky otherwise. Just enjoyed a spliff. Ended up with 1.1g of cheese and 0.8 of some shitty sprayed bud for 4.5BTC.
Last thing I want is a partial refund already with only like 5 transactions to date. I want to be fair about it.
What would you do?
Swallow the loss, and think twice about using the vendor in the future. Leave feedback either 3-4 out of five.
Then smoke your stash and move on.
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Just to set things straight, I have used MrCronk many times and every time I have had no problems. I think he had a rocky start with lots of problems at the start of his time on silk road but he is really on the ball now. His product is fantastic for the price so maybe you should try him before you blindly believe this shit.
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fIND ANOTHER VENDOR. Post every day in the forums about the vendor and what HE decided was right for you. Quality has NOTHING to do w/it. You ordered 14g's and should receive 14g's regardless. His loss is the customers gain, not the other way around. The customer comes first, ALWAYS. If not, find someone else to deal with and keep warning people here on the forums what they might expect from a vendor who sells stock he doesn't even HAVE . That's BULLSHIT. aND AS FAR as quality difference, IT DEPENDS WHO GREW IT, HOW, AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS. You might get haze that was grown weak and Thai that was grown strong, depending on the growers and their resources. Plus you may want a certain product for something, such as insomnia, where one strain is absolutely the opposite of what you want. Fuck a vendor who decides to sell you shit he doesn't even have. QUITE TELLING!
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cross posting because it's relevant to this thread too.
I wasn't thrilled with the one order I've done with MrCronk. It was several months ago and by his feedback, things seem to have improved. The order was for Thai Stick, the quality wasn't great but the price was cheap. In the description he said it didn't have any seeds or sticks which wasn't true. In his info page he said he said his orders require a signature, I said I didn't want to sign for anything, he said that was fine. Then he sent it special delivery and I had to sign for it. ???
Also in amongst that happening he didn't ship at first and said he was having some personal problems that were slowing things down. Then he marked it as "in transit" and I asked if it was on it's way. He said yes. Then it arrived two days later via special delivery (meaning that he hadn't actually sent it when I asked previously).
I appreciate these weren't the biggest problems but all together it didn't fill me with confidence in dealing with him.