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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: stolea2269 on March 18, 2012, 06:16 pm

Title: MDMA Help?
Post by: stolea2269 on March 18, 2012, 06:16 pm
Hey all,

So last night I took 150mg of tony76's MDMA with a friend at an electronic concert. We got there around 9:00, each dropped 150, and over the next few hours it was definitely working - tactile enhancement, body heat rising, pupils dilated, etc... - but it felt like it was on edge the whole time, never really hit me if you know what I mean and my friend felt the same way - that we weren't really rolling. Why do you think this is? Should I have taken more? I don't doubt the purity of the product, tony is by far one of the best vendors on here.

Other info:

I've been experimenting with other phenethylamines lately, 2c-b in particular, but it's been over a week since my last dose of that. My friend doesn't do anything aside from cannabis.

I've been on a pretty heavy regimen of Mucinex D (psuedophedrine) the last week but I didn't take it the day I dropped the molly.

We were both kinda skeeved out by the venue, security was ridiculously horrible, I got pushed up against a wall and searched in the bathroom. We also had to look out for a couple of our drunk friends for a good portion of the come-up of the MDMA. Could our setting have played a part?

I consider myself a new user to MDMA, the last time I rolled was off one of Dr. Amsterdam's 174mg Red Stars, split into quarters - 3/4 taken followed by the other 1/4 at T-1:30, and I rolled really hard.

What do you think the deal is? Too low of a dose? Bad mindset going into it? Would that be enough to negate the effects of 150mg?

I usually throw up right as I peak, that's how I know I'm rolling, but it didn't happen last night.

Anyways, any advice you can offer would be VERY appreciated. Thanks :)
S


Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: poolsclosed on March 18, 2012, 07:55 pm
Perhaps you had not been preloading and postloading. Perhaps your PEA tolerance was still around. Perhaps the difference between 150 and 174 is noticeable for you.

I will be trying tony's MDMA eventually and I will make a judgment on the purity. I don't doubt tony, so I think it's something you did.
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: stolea2269 on March 19, 2012, 01:20 am
Yeah, I think I'll start pre/post loading. Is there any regimen that you recommend?

Next time I think I'm going to dose up a little bit and see if that makes a difference.

Yeah, I definitely don't doubt the quality of the product, consensus in the review forum is incredibly favorable. Oh well, thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: Gary Oak on March 19, 2012, 02:25 am
Well, I take 5-HTP twice daily and it could be placebo but I feel like I roll way better because of it.
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: Gigles on March 19, 2012, 03:39 am
The problem is not you, it is Tony's MDMA. It is cut significantly with what I think is caffeine powder and/or some inert substance. It feels very "clean" but is SIGNIFICANTLY weaker than other quality MDMA I have purchased on SR (Ivory, Mitanox).

I have now sampled it twice, and have given it to dozens of my experienced friends. We all agree it's cut 30-50% by weight. So if you want a roll similar to 150mg of pure mdma, take ~250-275mg of tony's product.

Despite this, I will likely order Tony's mdma again. I don't think it is cut with any other substances besides mdma, and at the price and with his domestic shipping location it is still attractive.
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: stolea2269 on March 19, 2012, 04:41 am
I've actually been talking to a couple other people as well, they share my sentiment that you don't really get that MDMA rush at the dose you normally should - you know, that "ohmygodimrollingface" moment?

Yeah, its definitely very clean... Hmm... This is strange. There's some really rave reviews in his review thread. I'll shoot him a PM to see if he can shed any light on this, by no means am I angry about the product or feel entitled to a refund. Tony is a standup vendor, and I'm sure if you worked it out his MDMA/Dollar ratio would be far better than anyone else's, it'd just be nice to know so I can weigh it out and get to the place I want to be at.

I may try Ivory in the near future, always had great experiences with him.

Peace and Love.
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: themessenger2 on March 19, 2012, 11:29 pm
There have been quite a few reports of Tony's MDMA not being as good as some others or not reacting as violently to reagent tests. Not sure what that's about as I haven't done it myself but it's worth knowing.
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: Tryptamine on March 20, 2012, 05:56 am
Taking pseudoephedrine for a week would likely have decreased the bioavailability of the MDMA, by promoting expression of enzymes that oxidize both of them. Although if your friend didn't feel it aswell it may have been the setting or the chemical (unless they had also been taking a phenethylamine analogue such as pseudoephedrine).
Title: Re: MDMA Help?
Post by: poolsclosed on March 25, 2012, 02:05 am
It's not cut with caffeine. I am sworn off caffeine and I did not have any jitters, speediness, rush, or difficulty sleeping from Tony's MDMA.

Now, I had about 180mg and felt like I had 120mg, so I'm not going to discredit claims of being cut... but I'm not going to accuse either, because who knows why I felt like it wasn't enough?