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Title: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: AreYouKidding on February 18, 2012, 03:27 pm
' i ordered 50mgs of 25i-nbome. I haven't got it yet but from doing some research I found that in order to prepare this stuff for use you need some equipment and ingredients. Apparantly u need something called HPBCD which is a chemical u can purchase online and use to make the 25i more water/alcohol soluble. Then you need some kind of alcohol like ethanol or vodka, or plain water. U need a cylnder measuring container or flask, a Magnetic stirrer, a stir bar, filter paper, a syringe or some sort of blotter, and a mg scale. So aside from the mg scale which i have, i'm looking at another $50 to spend in order to properly prepare the stuff, and that's a lowest estimate i came up with after looking into how much magnetic stirrers cost ( i saw one that's $28 bucks but the good ones cost hundreds of dollars.)

So i guess i should of done my homework before i ordered this stuff, which cost $33 by the way. I probably wouldn't have ordered this if i knew it was goin to be such a hassle to prepare. Also i have absolutely no experience doing this sort of liquid measuring so even if i get all the supplies i won't know if the finished product will be accurate.

But i read some really good experiences that people posted who successfully tested this RC. So it might be worth spending the extra cash to do this right, but i might just try to insufflate a really small amount and see what happens. I have a mg scale so i can measure out 5mgs and then split it into 5 piles and hopefully get and estimate of 1mg. But that's goin to be hard because its so small that it will be difficult to try to pick it up even.'


THIS SUBSTANCE IS SCARILY SIMILAR TO LSD, EVEN TO LSD CONNOISSEURS THIS CAN CAUSE ALMOST ALL SIMILARITIES EXCEPT LSD NEVER NUMB S THE TONGUE.   GC / MS CONFIRMED GET THIS FUCKER OFF.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: dunk on February 18, 2012, 03:30 pm
What does this have to do with FamilyForever?
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: dankology on February 18, 2012, 06:28 pm
I wish someone would just ban him not because hes a scammer, not because hes probably not selling real L, not because he is absolutely HORRENDOUS at conducting business properly, not because he has absolutely no fuckin clue how to ship, not because he blatantly lies constantly(will provide quotes if asked), not because there are STILL people who havent received their orders,  but because he has caused such a ruckus within the community due to all of this and its pretty much the only thing people focus on here anymore.  Theres not much discussion going on outside the stupid topics he keeps fuckin making, on top of the topics other people are making..
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: GammaGoblin on February 18, 2012, 06:32 pm
This is very sad and I feel sorry for FF. So much bad karma... Imagine someone who likes really strong trips and takes 10 hits.

And you don't need any magnetic stirrers for making a complex, just let it sit for 20+ hours.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: leanteam on February 18, 2012, 06:52 pm
You guys are fucking ridiculous where are the reagent test results? Since when did NBOME glow in UV light? Everybody keeps saying this and that yet not one person has actually stepped up and said "I GOT SCAMMED". Everybody has gotten either a reship or a refund so wheres the scam?

Its funny you guys just keep repeating the same old boring shit yet have no evidence and most of you haven't even done business with FF so you guys can't say shit.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: ForeverFamily on February 18, 2012, 06:56 pm
I thought I had replied to this thread awhile ago but it looks like my post never showed up?

AYK is obviously Toker420, a customer who has been butthurt and out to get me banned from the beginning. I suggest you take everything he says with a grain of salt. The "rc" claims he has made about my lsd have already been completely dispelled. You can check here

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=8062.705

One of my best customers is DudeRugs... a 25-i vendor! Why would he purchase  a sheet weekly of my WoW, if it is apparently an RC he has an abundance of? Don't you think he, over anybody here, would have the best knowledge of this? Wouldn't he have been making claims like this weeks ago?

Multiple people have stated they had reagents ready to test my product immediately, but every time I requested them, nobody could provide anything. I even offered to purchase anybody a reagent to test for themselves, or to cover the costs it would take to have some of my tabs lab tested. Nobody seems to want to take me up on this?

OP, would you mind posting a picture of your results? If you are telling the truth this should not be a problem ;D

--FF
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: dankology on February 18, 2012, 07:05 pm
You guys are fucking ridiculous where are the reagent test results? Since when did NBOME glow in UV light? Everybody keeps saying this and that yet not one person has actually stepped up and said "I GOT SCAMMED". Everybody has gotten either a reship or a refund so wheres the scam?

Its funny you guys just keep repeating the same old boring shit yet have no evidence and most of you haven't even done business with FF so you guys can't say shit.
This has been addressed so many god damn times.

NOT EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED A RESHIP OR REFUND

Stop being a fucking douchebag dude.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: DudeRugs on February 18, 2012, 07:06 pm
Alright now, everybody on this forum needs to just chill out for 5 god damn seconds. If you do not know who I am then I encourage you to go to the 25i-NBOMe listings and look for my username. After you are done doing that you should be able to tell that I sell quite a bit of it. NOW, I am not saying I am an expert with the chemical but I am probably a lot closer to being an expert than the majority of people on these forums. So please keep this info in mind when reading what I am about to say.

If you can not tell the difference between 25i and an LSD trip, then that means one of two things. One, you have never done LSD, or two, you have never done 25i-NBOMe. The biggest difference between the 2 is trip duration. 25i is about 6-8 hours(I have done this stuff over 40 times). LSD is a 12 hour minimum(I have done L way more than I have done 25i). Now, as a vendor of 25i, one would probably agree that it would be quite absurd for me to purchase something from FF that I already sell myself(not to mention paying 3 times the price that I sell it for). And I have even purchased from FF on multiple occasions. I have eaten LSD on blotter tons of times that had a bitter taste. I could be anything from the solvent used to lay the L on the paper, to the actual paper itself. And the claims of FF's blotter making anyone's mouth numb I assure you are bullshit. I have eaten tabs from both of his batches and nothing even remotely close to that happened to me. There are too many people who have no idea what they are talking about, acting like they know what they are talking trying to make erroneous claims against a legit vendor. As a vendor myself I don't like to get very involved in these flame wars but at this point I feel like I need to say something.

FF IS NOT SELLING 25I-NBOMe. I SELL 25i AND HAVE PURCHASED LSD FROM FF MULTIPLE TIMES. Why would I do that if its really just 25i. Surely if anyone could tell the difference it would be me. Leave this guy alone. I wish there was a list of people who have made threads or posts attacking vendors who have had zero physical evidence to back their claims, because then I could be sure to avoid ever selling anything to those people EVER. It is beyond ridiculous at this point.

and AreYouKidding: Why don't you post the GC/MS results online so that we can see them if you really have proof? Oh, thats because you don't? I see now
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: Stormtrooper420 on February 18, 2012, 07:11 pm
One difference in FFs LSD and in NBOME, NBOME has a lot longer of a come up. FFs LSD I was tripping in about 15-20 minutes. That right there alone shows LSD.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: Stormtrooper420 on February 18, 2012, 07:13 pm
I did experience numbing of the tongue though, it was his first print batch. But this can be due to either the print or supposedly he used vodka instead of everclear. Don;t know what it was, but I do know it was legit LSD.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: caffeine_me on February 18, 2012, 07:26 pm
DudeRugs, does 25i light up with a black light?
Here is what FF's quarter sheet looks like with a black light:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=ca78195e60c9c1f58b82b42ad2fc30c2.jpg
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: redforeva on February 18, 2012, 07:34 pm
Time to break out the tin foil hats
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: Trinitron421 on February 18, 2012, 08:17 pm
One difference in FFs LSD and in NBOME, NBOME has a lot longer of a come up. FFs LSD I was tripping in about 15-20 minutes. That right there alone shows LSD.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Same experience here.
It also lasted about 12 hours.
But DudeRugs, I can assure you it did make my tongue numb(was for probably the first 30min of the trip), and I am not full of shit. My brother had the same experience, so it wasn't just me either. Just being honest with my experience, though I have no problem with it.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: DudeRugs on February 18, 2012, 08:56 pm
If you say that the printed tabs made your tongue numb then I would be inclined to believe you. The reason is that, of the sheets I have ordered, I have only tried the plain white blotter. The only people I have heard make this claim til now have been people that just appeared to be repeating info they have heard. First-hand accounts are much more credible. Most people do not understand that there are tons of reasons why LSD blotter can be bitter though. Take the Alex Grey prints for example.. I LOVED those tabs, but I felt that they were unusually bitter to the tongue upon first ingesting. They were definitely LSD though and I didn't see any threads about how that batch was just some RC. I want to apologize because I do not feel that you are full of shit, although there are plenty of people on here who are. My experiences are just with the white blotter, but I have purchased the printed type and have had no complaints about it in any way.

And yeah, I am surprised it took this long for someone to suggest the idea that that me and FF are the same person.. lol. That was just always the next obvious accusation(from my perspective) in the various levels of this conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: Imthatguy on February 18, 2012, 09:12 pm
What's incredible is that everybody keeps posting on the assumption that everybody received the same thing. Obviously they didn't - the potency reports on the first round of prints were wildly variable, plus lots of people never received anything at all (with never a good explanation for this). Given that these are established facts - why assume that every customer even received the same chemical?
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: ForeverFamily on February 18, 2012, 09:19 pm
What's incredible is that everybody keeps posting on the assumption that everybody received the same thing. Obviously they didn't - the potency reports on the first round of prints were wildly variable, plus lots of people never received anything at all (with never a good explanation for this). Given that these are established facts - why assume that every customer even received the same chemical?
Obviously you haven't read the thread either. There was a very good reason for the first round of prints varying in potency and some of them just flat out not arriving at all. It was corrected and there have been no problems with potency since. Why can't you just stick to one name Toker?

--FF
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: Imthatguy on February 18, 2012, 09:23 pm
What's incredible is that everybody keeps posting on the assumption that everybody received the same thing. Obviously they didn't - the potency reports on the first round of prints were wildly variable, plus lots of people never received anything at all (with never a good explanation for this). Given that these are established facts - why assume that every customer even received the same chemical?
Obviously you haven't read the thread either. There was a very good reason for the first round of prints varying in potency and some of them just flat out not arriving at all. It was corrected and there have been no problems with potency since. Why can't you just stick to one name Toker?

--FF

LoL - Why don't you, duderugs?

Of course, duderugs and FF don't have to be the same person for them to be in collaboration.

So FF given that your comebacks are so damn fast today - why don't you tell us what happened to the 50+ orders you said you had in the sale? You said you had 50+ orders but your feedback shows less thatn 20 deliveries since then. Seems like you've been asked that a few times and ignored the question.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: ForeverFamily on February 18, 2012, 09:27 pm
What's incredible is that everybody keeps posting on the assumption that everybody received the same thing. Obviously they didn't - the potency reports on the first round of prints were wildly variable, plus lots of people never received anything at all (with never a good explanation for this). Given that these are established facts - why assume that every customer even received the same chemical?
Obviously you haven't read the thread either. There was a very good reason for the first round of prints varying in potency and some of them just flat out not arriving at all. It was corrected and there have been no problems with potency since. Why can't you just stick to one name Toker?

--FF

LoL - Why don't you, duderugs?

Of course, duderugs and FF don't have to be the same person for them to be in collaboration.

So FF given that your comebacks are so damn fast today - why don't you tell us what happened to the 50+ orders you said you had in the sale? You said you had 50+ orders but your feedback shows less thatn 20 deliveries since then. Seems like you've been asked that a few times and ignored the question.

Because trolls like you caused more than half of my orders to be cancelled. I got a mission for ya toker. Go find somebody who has actually been "scammed" by me. Bring them here and have them post their story. If you can do this I will cancel all of my orders and leave SR and never return. It's as simple as that. I'm done dealing with you daily. You call me a scammer. Provide the proof right now and I'm gone.

I'm waiting.

--FF
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: Huxlay on February 18, 2012, 09:33 pm
What's incredible is that everybody keeps posting on the assumption that everybody received the same thing. Obviously they didn't - the potency reports on the first round of prints were wildly variable, plus lots of people never received anything at all (with never a good explanation for this). Given that these are established facts - why assume that every customer even received the same chemical?
Obviously you haven't read the thread either. There was a very good reason for the first round of prints varying in potency and some of them just flat out not arriving at all. It was corrected and there have been no problems with potency since. Why can't you just stick to one name Toker?

--FF

LoL - Why don't you, duderugs?

Of course, duderugs and FF don't have to be the same person for them to be in collaboration.

So FF given that your comebacks are so damn fast today - why don't you tell us what happened to the 50+ orders you said you had in the sale? You said you had 50+ orders but your feedback shows less thatn 20 deliveries since then. Seems like you've been asked that a few times and ignored the question.

Because trolls like you caused more than half of my orders to be cancelled. I got a mission for ya toker. Go find somebody who has actually been "scammed" by me. Bring them here and have them post their story. If you can do this I will cancel all of my orders and leave SR and never return. It's as simple as that. I'm done dealing with you daily. You call me a scammer. Provide the proof right now and I'm gone.

I'm waiting.

--FF


FF getting buck! Hell yeah FF tell them! Never ordered from FF or anything he just seem plausibly legitimate to me and his prices are very low. He has been explaining himself quite well, but i am just speaking my mind never really experienced his services. Any way stick around and forget the trolls man, cant let them get to you
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: leanteam on February 18, 2012, 09:56 pm
What's incredible is that everybody keeps posting on the assumption that everybody received the same thing. Obviously they didn't - the potency reports on the first round of prints were wildly variable, plus lots of people never received anything at all (with never a good explanation for this). Given that these are established facts - why assume that every customer even received the same chemical?
Obviously you haven't read the thread either. There was a very good reason for the first round of prints varying in potency and some of them just flat out not arriving at all. It was corrected and there have been no problems with potency since. Why can't you just stick to one name Toker?

--FF

LoL - Why don't you, duderugs?

Of course, duderugs and FF don't have to be the same person for them to be in collaboration.

So FF given that your comebacks are so damn fast today - why don't you tell us what happened to the 50+ orders you said you had in the sale? You said you had 50+ orders but your feedback shows less thatn 20 deliveries since then. Seems like you've been asked that a few times and ignored the question.

Because trolls like you caused more than half of my orders to be cancelled. I got a mission for ya toker. Go find somebody who has actually been "scammed" by me. Bring them here and have them post their story. If you can do this I will cancel all of my orders and leave SR and never return. It's as simple as that. I'm done dealing with you daily. You call me a scammer. Provide the proof right now and I'm gone.

I'm waiting.

--FF

Fuck ya! ;) You go FF!

Even I'M sick of these idiots with 2nd to 10th hand accounts of what you've done. Everybody in this thread that is calling you a scammer most likely haven't even bought anything from you and the ones that have are SATISFIED (now, after reships etc etc)

fuck the haters go FF

If you leave then we're stucking paying ABSURD prices like 4-5$ for a fucking sheet
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: blueangel on February 18, 2012, 10:30 pm
even if it's true, this thread looks more like a smear campaign.  the OP should have given more evidence and less blabber if he wanted to be taken seriously. it might get some noobs but veteran users know how to spot bullshit and those are the users you want vouching for your products and services.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: MooChoca on February 18, 2012, 11:04 pm
Wouldn't it be mind-blowing if DudeRugs & ForeverFamily were the same person?  :o
Entirely possible. Worth considering? I don't know, but it would be a good front to use separate vendor accounts for what are supposedly different products, and use the two identities to support each other.  ;)

Sorry to stir the pot, I'd rather smoke it.
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: ForeverFamily on February 18, 2012, 11:13 pm
FamilyForever, Can you please elaborate on why you are leaving SR if in fact your product is legit and people are coming around to your side? Seems like with your prices and more people reporting great experiences, you'd be rollin' in BTC...

I'm not jabbing, just genuinely curious because I personally wanted to buy a sheet from you but have recently been scammed by themuchies and I'm really careful with my coin right now.

Thanks!  8)

Because of threads and trolls exactly like this. I can't keep dealing with it daily.

--FF
Title: Re: FAMILYFOREVER = 25i-nBOME COMPLEX READ NOW******
Post by: mdmafx on February 18, 2012, 11:26 pm
Its kind of strange how after the last gawker article was published there seems to be a lot of these type of posts. It could well be tactic LE are using to prevent vendors from selling on SR by trying (all be it lame attempts) to discredit them on a public forum and put doubt in the minds of would be customers.