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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: p0och on June 26, 2013, 07:26 am
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Hi all,
I've recently bought a few grams of MDMA from a dutch seller in SR (says made from PMK oil which is supposed to be good shit?) and it came crushed and powdery. Test came out OK and it smelled like the goods.
The thing that worries me is if it might have been cut? its pretty much crushed to powder form so really no crystals or rocks that i can see.
Colour is tan/whitish.
I understand that it might have been crushed for postage but other dealers have always maintained at least small rocks or crystals in theirs so its dissappointing to see this in powdery state.
I've tested a bit on it and it feels like MDMA, Good comedown too but just didnt roll hard like the other 84% products.
How do i know guys?
Thanks for reading.
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I think there's only two real options. There's a GCMS lab test, which for most people is costly or inaccessible. Or there's an acetone wash, which should get much of the impurities out. If you weigh it before and after the wash you can get a good idea of how cut it was. There's tutorials all over the forums, and on the clearweb.
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it's cut. full stop. unless you've seen it made with your own eyes assume ANY drug you get anywhere is cut.
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it's cut. full stop. unless you've seen it made with your own eyes assume ANY drug you get anywhere is cut.
That might be the way you play it but its not what the solution i'm after.
the dealer is a top 1% seller which has claimed his wares to be uncut so i'm just trying to cerufy this
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i meant *verify :)
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sorry mate but without sending it to a lab there is no way to verify it. and i'd bet good money most, if not all the top 1% vendors who state 84% pure or whatever have just pulled that number out of thin air
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what do they usually cut with? MDA? methylone?
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what do they usually cut with? MDA? methylone?
no, normally if you try to cut it with a bulking agent you go with cheaper sources. methylone and mda are WAAAAY to expensive and would defeat
the purpose of a bulking agent. basically they use a powder that closely resembles the color of the finished product of mdma.
say if its more brown/tan. = brown sugar
say if its more white/clear= caffeine or vitually any powder form vitamin (A,B,C etc,)
source= used to be that kind of shithead.
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Ordered from FM ?
It is not MDMA, I got it too. That price sounded waaay too good to be true.
Someone on the forum linked it to be tfMPPP or something like that using a color test.
My guess is that's a savvy mix of RC such as tfmppp, methylone, etc.. to make it look like MDMA effect at MDMA dose, which indeed produces a MDMA-like effect but this is clearly not the real MDMA effect.
I would love to get a full-analysis of this fucking stuff and rub it under the nose of Frank Matthews who says everywhere his products are the purest on Earth.
In Holland you can get those test for free, only if you're Dutch.
Please, please, please if anyone dutch read this thread, would you make the analysis with a sample I send you ?
There is no doubt why FM asks FE, it's because this way people don't complain about the quality. He sure send some stuff to every customer but not what was described, and this hypocrit say it is enough to tell that he is a good and honnest seller. There is lot of feedbacks stating that his former products (coke, crack and heroin) were great but now became some cheap shit. FM works thanks to his reputation but does not live by it.
I felt like making things clear.
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Ordered from FM ?
It is not MDMA, I got it too. That price sounded waaay too good to be true.
Someone on the forum linked it to be tfMPPP or something like that using a color test.
My guess is that's a savvy mix of RC such as tfmppp, methylone, etc.. to make it look like MDMA effect at MDMA dose, which indeed produces a MDMA-like effect but this is clearly not the real MDMA effect.
I would love to get a full-analysis of this fucking stuff and rub it under the nose of Frank Matthews who says everywhere his products are the purest on Earth.
In Holland you can get those test for free, only if you're Dutch.
Please, please, please if anyone dutch read this thread, would you make the analysis with a sample I send you ?
There is no doubt why FM asks FE, it's because this way people don't complain about the quality. He sure send some stuff to every customer but not what was described, and this hypocrit say it is enough to tell that he is a good and honnest seller. There is lot of feedbacks stating that his former products (coke, crack and heroin) were great but now became some cheap shit. FM works thanks to his reputation but does not live by it.
I felt like making things clear.
yeah spot on mate.
His reputation is stellar so definitely would like to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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moonrocks are cut. pure mdma will be an oil, and slightly less pure will be a fine powder.
they have to cut it to get moonrocks so yeah..... its cut regardless.
if its from a top 1% vendor, stop giving a shit. people have been coming back to him for a reason! ;)
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Moonrocks have to be cut ? Didn't know, do you know how do they make moonrocks from pure MDMA ?
The reputation does not guarantee the best products. FM is surely a great business man because he is extremely professional and always ships fast and secure.
Although what bring people to him is mainly his prices for decent products. From the reports, his coke is very decent for the price although some batches happen to suck. His crack was bomb then turned to average.
His heroin I think it really is the quality that keep people returning to him.
But then he decided to take advantage of his reputation to sell an MDMA that people would think is as good as his other products but actually it is way too much cheap to be the real deal. Of course I nevertheless stupidly wanted to believe his word and ordered out of greed and it is definitely not MDMA. I cannot sell this to anyone because I don't know what it is.
Wavelength, it's not the aspect of it that makes me say that, the look or color of a drug will never tell anything about it. MDMA synthesis ends up to crystal MDMA, right ? Well if you crush them you have pure MDMA powder.
I don't see what you mean on pure MDMA being an oil ?? Could you explain your thought a little bit further please ?
To my knowing an oil, the isosafrole, is used for the synthesis but the form in which MDMA comes out is crystal. At least that is what I always thought :).
In that case what are moonrocks ? Aren't they MDMA crystals ?
And again it's not because it is a crystal that it is pure. It can be pure like this wonderful pictured probably is (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Tan_MDMA_Crystals.jpg/800px-Tan_MDMA_Crystals.jpg) but a lot a chemicals do crystallize as well and if the chemist is not excellent unwanted amounts of the transformed reactants will remain in the end product and will form an unpure MDMA crystals that will lead to an unpure MDMA powder if crushed.
Only an anlysis can tell, or more roughly you can test the effect on you to know a little more on the substance you ingested provided you know the real MDMA and you know fairly well your body too.
From what I have experienced, the "MDMA" from FM could maybe named ecstasy but not MDMA. You have euphoria, not much physical disconfort except intense grinding teeth, maybe more than with pure MDMA, but definitely you don't feel the unique MDMA high which is an high of an absolute purity, not speedy to me, and that DON'T FEEL ARTIFICIAL, there ! is the concept I was looking for to explain the difference between MDMA and all other forms of what I call ecstasy, which can be anything made and mixed up to approach MDMA but none of them can nor ever will do. The MDMA bliss is unique and cannot be faked. It's like LSD, those molecules give a high so pure that you cannot mistake it for anything else once you've tasted it. Those molecules make you feel that you brain was designed to integrate them in his functionning each in avery particular way of course, but you fill that every molecule of MDMA or LSD have found the right place in your body the one that will not bore the other cells, like making jammings at cross roads, parking on the handicapped spot, etc... When in your body, those molecules feel at home, your body treat them as a long-term friend to who you tell "of course help yourself" when inviting him "do what ever you wish" because you know he will respect your house and not mess around or finish the bottle of milk without putting a new one in the fridfe (people that do that piss me off so much, what's the point of eating cereals if you don't have COLD milk to put with ?).
With the other phoney molecules, well you feel that your body is pushed towards that direction, then this way, then forces you to be euphorice, nevermind your heart he'll calm down later !, you see ? Bad impolite guests. Funny guests though, but you always have to tidy up behind them.
I wrote all this diarrhea just to state one point : Frank Matthews do not sell legit MDMA. MDMA does'nt go by 18 euros the gram, this is so stupid to believe that he would do that like I did. I told myself, well he does good prices so that people only buy in bulk. No, no, it's because it's shit.
Even if it is an highly researched combination of RC's and idk what else it will for ever just be no more that plain shit because YOU DON't KNOW WHAT IT REALLY IS..... And it is a shame that the so-called best dealers lower themselves to this type of behavior, because it is irresponsible. P0och, we should go hit up his review thread some day, but I wish I had an analysis of his stuff... If anyone from NL come by, I will pay you for this !
"if its from a top 1% vendor, stop giving a shit. people have been coming back to him for a reason! ;)"
This does not prove anything, everybody have an iPhone and maybe today's 5th version is finally quite good but still a lot of them bug and brick for no reason except having to buy a new one, and guess what they do buy a new one... because it is way too hard to confess to themselves that their choice is wrong, "no it can't be a bad choice because it is everybody's choice, I will make a fool of myself if I dare to think different, bouhohou"
but clearly the first iPhones were plain shit and people would still find them sooo awesome only because it was flashy and everybody told that it was the best. Today everybody tells FM is the best so the masses follow the masses. This by the way is what we call democracy, the power by the gather of collective dumbness.
But FM is not bad at all, clearly you can't reach the 1% being bad, but that doesn't mean either that he can't be criticized or provide bad services from time to time. The problem is that people don't harm themselves, this was the whole point of SR, not to buy something that is not what you thought, but of course the human nature is stronger and comes back. But the good thing here is that people, choices and voices are free, so wa can make the things right and fix those situations only if we dare to speak up.
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Moonrocks have to be cut ? Didn't know, do you know how do they make moonrocks from pure MDMA ?
I dont know how its done but there are a few vendors on here that have talked about it. they didnt talk about how to do it but i know you used to be able to buy an mdma production guide that told you how to rock your mdma up.
you CAN grow mdma crystals im sure, but they wont be like moonrocks haha.
but hey these are all just things ive read, there's a chance i was misinformed :P
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I wrote all this diarrhea just to state one point : Frank Matthews do not sell legit MDMA. MDMA does'nt go by 18 euros the gram, this is so stupid to believe that he would do that like I did. I told myself, well he does good prices so that people only buy in bulk. No, no, it's because it's shit.
Even if it is an highly researched combination of RC's and idk what else it will for ever just be no more that plain shit because YOU DON't KNOW WHAT IT REALLY IS..... And it is a shame that the so-called best dealers lower themselves to this type of behavior, because it is irresponsible. P0och, we should go hit up his review thread some day, but I wish I had an analysis of his stuff... If anyone from NL come by, I will pay you for this !
Totally agree. check out the avengers tab to read how FM had previously sent a dud package.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=129424.0
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it's cut. full stop. unless you've seen it made with your own eyes assume ANY drug you get anywhere is cut.
So everyone who wants a good product has to personally witness the creation? There is plenty of uncut stuff out there and you don't need to be buddies with a chemist.
I am thinking Tessellated may start offering some very high grade MDMA. Not sure if people are interested or not though.
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I am thinking Tessellated may start offering some very high grade MDMA. Not sure if people are interested or not though.
I would be if the prices are reasonable enough.
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it's cut. full stop. unless you've seen it made with your own eyes assume ANY drug you get anywhere is cut.
So everyone who wants a good product has to personally witness the creation? There is plenty of uncut stuff out there and you don't need to be buddies with a chemist.
I am thinking Tessellated may start offering some very high grade MDMA. Not sure if people are interested or not though.
no, everyone who wants UNCUT product and truly believes they actually have uncut product would need to see it being made. there's plenty of good product on the Road, but i think the actual uncut stuff is few and far between
or maybe i'm just skeptical.
i'd be interested in high grade MDMA
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i'd be interested in high grade MDMA
I am working on it at this very moment.
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i'd be interested in high grade MDMA
I am working on it at this very moment.
If its very good mdma, i would be interested in bulk if its at the right price
PM me if you ever source potent shit :)
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my money's with you if the goods are good :)
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Hi all,
I've recently bought a few grams of MDMA from a dutch seller in SR (says made from PMK oil which is supposed to be good shit?) and it came crushed and powdery. Test came out OK and it smelled like the goods.
The thing that worries me is if it might have been cut? its pretty much crushed to powder form so really no crystals or rocks that i can see.
Colour is tan/whitish.
I understand that it might have been crushed for postage but other dealers have always maintained at least small rocks or crystals in theirs so its dissappointing to see this in powdery state.
I've tested a bit on it and it feels like MDMA, Good comedown too but just didnt roll hard like the other 84% products.
How do i know guys?
Thanks for reading.
So the EZ test kit showed it is MDMA? Then it probably is mdma, I mean, I never used EZ test kit, but I know it shows mdma if it IS mdma :)
Ordered from FM ?
It is not MDMA, I got it too. That price sounded waaay too good to be true.
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I would love to get a full-analysis of this fucking stuff and rub it under the nose of Frank Matthews who says everywhere his products are the purest on Earth.
How long ago did you buy it? I have been worrying the past week from who to buy MDMA, narrowed my list to HolandOnline and FM, then HO went stealth over weekend, and finally when I got my coins today I ordered from FM. And then I saw these posts, daamn. You could have posted that in his review thread or somewhere, so people are informed.
Personally, I still hope and believe I'll get mdma (maybe a bit cut), because I just doubt there are so many dumb people on SR buying off FM and that they wouldn't preform EZ test and then write a bad review.
I will also take FM's mdma to the lab, we have free testing where I come from I think, and will report back in about a week or so (have to get the shipment first).
Greets,
danjohnken
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this is great news if you could have it lab tested.
I don't want to be making false allegations or stir shit up.
Fm's a top 1% seller so the least I could do is give him the benefit of doubt, until of course the lab test proves otherwise.
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this is great news if you could have it lab tested.
I don't want to be making false allegations or stir shit up.
Fm's a top 1% seller so the least I could do is give him the benefit of doubt, until of course the lab test proves otherwise.
Yeah, well something came in between and I quickly used that to cancel order from FM (this topic made me skeptic + his next shipping day is wednesday which didn't suit my needs). But I will probably be ordering from him once in the future, 1g or 5g listing, and will send it to the lab. Expect that to be done in about a month I hope, because I really should use this option of a free lab :) Meanwhile, I ordered from Full Escrow UK, check his review thread and MDMA review thread, where I'll post feedback on his stuff. But I won't be sending that to the lab, have enough trust in FEUK not to have it tested atm.
Yeah, it's really weird nobody post reviews of FM's mdma anywhere, but it's best selling mdma on the road. I really look forward to testing it in a lab. You said that FM's mdma passed marquis test?
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Yep tested with the mandeline test, went straight to black.
Just proves its MDMA but doesn't show its purity or additional substances.
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Moonrocks have to be cut ? Didn't know, do you know how do they make moonrocks from pure MDMA ?
Moonrocks - does not need to contain cut although it could. Pure MDMA.HCL is an extremely fragile crystal and tends to crumble on it's own. The rocks you see are made using heat and pressure to bind the crystals. Any type of cut form chalk, to vitamins could be used to cut during this step.
The reputation does not guarantee the best products. FM is surely a great business man because he is extremely professional and always ships fast and secure.
Although what bring people to him is mainly his prices for decent products. From the reports, his coke is very decent for the price although some batches happen to suck. His crack was bomb then turned to average.
His heroin I think it really is the quality that keep people returning to him.
But then he decided to take advantage of his reputation to sell an MDMA that people would think is as good as his other products but actually it is way too much cheap to be the real deal. Of course I nevertheless stupidly wanted to believe his word and ordered out of greed and it is definitely not MDMA. I cannot sell this to anyone because I don't know what it is.
Wavelength, it's not the aspect of it that makes me say that, the look or color of a drug will never tell anything about it. MDMA synthesis ends up to crystal MDMA, right ? Well if you crush them you have pure MDMA powder.
The final process in MDMA synth is salting, typically hydrochloric gas is pumped through a solution containing solvent and MDMA freebase. The hcl binds with the mdma and causes it to crystalize and fall from solution. The crystals aret typically very fine, white and crush easily.
I don't see what you mean on pure MDMA being an oil ?? Could you explain your thought a little bit further please ?
The poster is referring to mdma freebase, in this stage it is a liquid and unfit for human consumption (very caustic). Many many chemicals are like this and are typically salted with hcl to make it stable and ok for human consumption.
To my knowing an oil, the isosafrole, is used for the synthesis but the form in which MDMA comes out is crystal. At least that is what I always thought :).
In layman terms that is mostly correct, quite a few steps from isosafrole to mdma and not all synths require safrole to be isomerized first.In that case what are moonrocks ? Aren't they MDMA crystals ?
Moonrocks describes the large pressure created mdma crystal clumps. It is also used to describe methylone. It is a slang term. And again it's not because it is a crystal that it is pure. It can be pure like this wonderful pictured probably is (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Tan_MDMA_Crystals.jpg/800px-Tan_MDMA_Crystals.jpg) but a lot a chemicals do crystallize as well and if the chemist is not excellent unwanted amounts of the transformed reactants will remain in the end product and will form an unpure MDMA crystals that will lead to an unpure MDMA powder if crushed.
MDMA synth is rather simple and does not take a Walter white to make very good product. Trace precursors left in the rxn
are the result of laziness. Only an anlysis can tell, or more roughly you can test the effect on you to know a little more on the substance you ingested provided you know the real MDMA and you know fairly well your body too.
a simple acetone wash and crystallization using IPA can give you a very good idea of purity.From what I have experienced, the "MDMA" from FM could maybe named ecstasy but not MDMA. You have euphoria, not much physical disconfort except intense grinding teeth, maybe more than with pure MDMA, but definitely you don't feel the unique MDMA high which is an high of an absolute purity, not speedy to me, and that DON'T FEEL ARTIFICIAL, there ! is the concept I was looking for to explain the difference between MDMA and all other forms of what I call ecstasy, which can be anything made and mixed up to approach MDMA but none of them can nor ever will do. The MDMA bliss is unique and cannot be faked. It's like LSD, those molecules give a high so pure that you cannot mistake it for anything else once you've tasted it. Those molecules make you feel that you brain was designed to integrate them in his functionning each in avery particular way of course, but you fill that every molecule of MDMA or LSD have found the right place in your body the one that will not bore the other cells, like making jammings at cross roads, parking on the handicapped spot, etc... When in your body, those molecules feel at home, your body treat them as a long-term friend to who you tell "of course help yourself" when inviting him "do what ever you wish" because you know he will respect your house and not mess around or finish the bottle of milk without putting a new one in the fridfe (people that do that piss me off so much, what's the point of eating cereals if you don't have COLD milk to put with ?).
With the other phoney molecules, well you feel that your body is pushed towards that direction, then this way, then forces you to be euphorice, nevermind your heart he'll calm down later !, you see ? Bad impolite guests. Funny guests though, but you always have to tidy up behind them.
I wrote all this diarrhea just to state one point : Frank Matthews do not sell legit MDMA. MDMA does'nt go by 18 euros the gram, this is so stupid to believe that he would do that like I did. I told myself, well he does good prices so that people only buy in bulk. No, no, it's because it's shit.
Even if it is an highly researched combination of RC's and idk what else it will for ever just be no more that plain shit because YOU DON't KNOW WHAT IT REALLY IS..... And it is a shame that the so-called best dealers lower themselves to this type of behavior, because it is irresponsible. P0och, we should go hit up his review thread some day, but I wish I had an analysis of his stuff... If anyone from NL come by, I will pay you for this !
"if its from a top 1% vendor, stop giving a shit. people have been coming back to him for a reason! ;)"
This does not prove anything, everybody have an iPhone and maybe today's 5th version is finally quite good but still a lot of them bug and brick for no reason except having to buy a new one, and guess what they do buy a new one... because it is way too hard to confess to themselves that their choice is wrong, "no it can't be a bad choice because it is everybody's choice, I will make a fool of myself if I dare to think different, bouhohou"
but clearly the first iPhones were plain shit and people would still find them sooo awesome only because it was flashy and everybody told that it was the best. Today everybody tells FM is the best so the masses follow the masses. This by the way is what we call democracy, the power by the gather of collective dumbness.
But FM is not bad at all, clearly you can't reach the 1% being bad, but that doesn't mean either that he can't be criticized or provide bad services from time to time. The problem is that people don't harm themselves, this was the whole point of SR, not to buy something that is not what you thought, but of course the human nature is stronger and comes back. But the good thing here is that people, choices and voices are free, so wa can make the things right and fix those situations only if we dare to speak up.
It is imo the market has shifted. Pills use to be the main form of MDMA. All types of crap was loaded into them because people where ignorant and didn't know better. Now that pill reporting websites exist a bad stamp gets flamed and can shunt sales very quickly. Molly on the other hand is indistinguishable from anyone else molly. It is sold by weight and prone to cutting at any level. Pills are sold by dose, a weak pill does not get purchased. A good press is alot more reliable than today's molly.
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I took 180 mg of FrankMatthews' MDMA yesterday and I rolled for ONLY 1,5 hours and then began to come down >:(
It definitely felt like MDMA, but I'm starting to believe it has to be cut with something. I had had an year long break from any MDMA or other drug use so 0 tolerance.
Disappointed.
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Acetone will just remove caffeine if i recall correctly, not sure if chloroform/ammonia could help.
Haven't had my coffee yet. :o
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Despite what a lot of folks here think, the competition is very high on SR for drugs like MDMA and other substances. Cutting various things may fly in real life but as soon as people catch wind that your product is an inferior product even by a slight hair, they will just hop over to another vendor. Some people actually take pride in their products..
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Acetone will just remove caffeine if i recall correctly
Acetone washing will remove anything that is soluble in it. As well as caffeine it can remove a whole host of binders, fillers, dyes, and adulterants.
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moonrocks are cut. pure mdma will be an oil, and slightly less pure will be a fine powder.
they have to cut it to get moonrocks so yeah..... its cut regardless.
if its from a top 1% vendor, stop giving a shit. people have been coming back to him for a reason! ;)
First of pure MDMA freebase is an oil, no one will be selling you this. generally you will be getting a salt form: fumerate, tartaric, ascorbic or the most common hcl.
Moonrocking is a cutting technique purely to increase the marketability of the product. Pure MDMA that you want to take is a racemic molecule. You need both isomers to get the effect everyone is wanting. Racemic compounds will not form large crystals. You will get powder unless you add other substances in to help bind all the molecules together.
Moonrocks have to be cut ? Didn't know, do you know how do they make moonrocks from pure MDMA ?
Moonrocks - does not need to contain cut although it could. Pure MDMA.HCL is an extremely fragile crystal and tends to crumble on it's own. The rocks you see are made using heat and pressure to bind the crystals. Any type of cut form chalk, to vitamins could be used to cut during this step.
Your spreading some unsafe misinformation here homie. Moonrocks are not made through adding heat and pressure to mdma by itself, that would result in you forming crumbally chunks that would not last for very long. A substance has to be added to act sort of as a glue. The cutting agents used in this process are things that melt and recrystalize at lower temperature than your mdma. The process works by essentially mixing mdma into a melted cut and then letting it solidify again. The best cut to use for this purpose is Calcium Sulfate.
A melting point test could give you a rough guess of how pure your substance is depending on what was used as the cut. The best advice you have been give is to go for and acetone flash. cover your product in minimul amounts of boiling alchol and add pure acetone to it. The product will fall out of solution and produce you some nice clean crystals. Just filter dry and enjoy.
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The final process in MDMA synth is salting, typically hydrochloric gas is pumped through a solution containing solvent and MDMA freebase. The hcl binds with the mdma and causes it to crystalize and fall from solution. The crystals aret typically very fine, white and crush easily.
It is my understanding that MDMA HCl is not nearly as hydroscopic as meth. Aqueous titration should work fine, no need for gassing
MDMA synth is rather simple and does not take a Walter white to make very good product. Trace precursors left in the rxn
are the result of laziness.
Are you seriously implying that meth is a more difficult synth than MDMA? ;)
a simple acetone wash and crystallization using IPA can give you a very good idea of purity.
Sure, it'll give you a great idea of how pure your amine(s) are, this is a great way to wash your methylbenzylamine of all those pesky -ol's and -one's before you use it to cut your MDMA!
For those playing at home, the only way to determine the presence of adulterants/get any sort of quantitative analysis of purity without having to spend a metric fucktonne on lab equiptment is Thin Layer Chromatography(TLC.) Costs about $80 for initial setup, then maybe $2 per test after that, if you take the time to learn how, it will not only tell you if the MDMA is cut, but exactly what its cut with. Unfortunately it requires some effort to learn, and most people couldn't be fucked, good luck to them.
it's cut. full stop. unless you've seen it made with your own eyes assume ANY drug you get anywhere is cut.
So everyone who wants a good product has to personally witness the creation? There is plenty of uncut stuff out there and you don't need to be buddies with a chemist.
I am thinking Tessellated may start offering some very high grade MDMA. Not sure if people are interested or not though.
Bullshit. The vast majority of users have never had anything close to "uncut" drugs, people are so used to getting shit they don't think twice about asking for a second helping.
Reagent testing only tests for the presence of a chemical, not the purity, so your marquis/etc. tests will do precisely fuck all this this regard.
MDMA is an amine(methylenedioxy methamphet 'amine') which means it is inherently basic, pure MDMA is, therefore, a freebase. In this case, its an oil. The amine, however, can be binded to a salt. For example, adding stoichemetric amounts of hydrochloric acid gives rise to MDMA.HCl.
MDMA HCl of high enough purity will look extremely similar to methamphetamine, it forms transparent crystals if there are no adulterants present. A good way to figure out if your MDMA is pure or not is to just look at the color. If its not transparent, its not pure(this includes white powder. White is not translucent.)
Before anyone gets their panties in a twist regarding crystal formation of racemates, read the relevant literature(GOOGLE IT.)
MDMA HCl can form large crystalline structures composed of BOTH chiral isomers.
As far as PMK goes, ALL MDMA is made from PMK. PMK is piperonal methyl ketone, also known as methylenedioxy phenyl-2-propanone, its just a standard intermediate in the production of MDMA. The standard synthesis route is: Safrole > Isosafrole > MDP2P(aka PMK) > MDMA, in the same way the standard synthesis route for meth is benzaldehyde > P2NP > P2P(aka BMK, or benzyl methyl ketone) > Meth.
Jesus, its really not that difficult to do a simple google search, all this shit is in the first 3 results from typing in "MDMA."
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Bullshit. The vast majority of users have never had anything close to "uncut" drugs, people are so used to getting shit they don't think twice about asking for a second helping.
I disagree. There is good uncut MDMA out there, not everything has been stepped on. You can say otherwise all day long but I know for a fact the the good stuff can start with the chemist and reach the street unadulterated.
Yes, the stuff I am talking about is composed of clear crystals.
Check out my listings in early August, uncut and very pure.
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He claims to have "pure" cocaine but I read yesterday that a sample from him was cut with Levamisole (AND to 61%!), so it could easily be the same with MD. When you are the first on the list a lot of people will buy regardless.
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Did you know the name of the SR vendor is of a famous drug kingpin of the past?
Interesting story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Matthews_(drug_trafficker)