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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: demetri on January 03, 2012, 01:11 pm
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Hi all,
The recent scam with yourMainMan has left a lot of people out of pocket and some seemed to be under the impression they would get something back from SR.
I'm sure as many have now discovered this is not the case. SR will do nothing to compensate if you purchased out of escrow.
Granted, this could've easily been prevented if all these newbie buyers has simply read the "How does it work? / buyers guide" link at the bottom of every page on SR main site. It states very clearly DO NOT do out of escrow and even requests buyers report vendors who ask for it.
Problem is though, many like myself didn't read that page or even realise it contains important information. The site is pretty easy and self-evident how to use in so far as purchasing and paying so many just dive in. There's no warnings on registration or orders page or on bitcoins funding page saying ALWAYS USE ESCROW OR YOU MAY LOSE MONEY.
Therefore I'd like to offer a suggestion... Here's what I think SR could do to prevent this situation repeating itself and people continually losing money to scam artists...
When people register at SR, have the info on that "How does it work" page (i.e. the buyers guidelines) onto a page that new members HAVE TO read before they can proceed to register with a "I UNDERSTAND" button below to proceed to registration form, or do it on the bitcoin funding link/order page.
At the very least, you could have a concise statement on the registration page that says "Under no circumstances should buyers enter into out of escrow transactions with vendors. You will not be protected if something goes wrong, click here to read more about this".
That way, everyone is clear and I think it will go a long way towards making the marketplace a much safer and happier one for everyone, except scammers.
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I am a new buyer and I orders 200 pills from AAKOVEN about 6 weeks ago. The order totaled $1200.00. I know that you should not FE and I did not want to! I requested to have my auto-finalize date extended through the resolution center because I hadn't received anything yet and he messaged me asking me to finalize because I am a new buyer. I saw his rating was pretty high and I trusted that he had sent them so STUPIDLY I finalized! This was the biggest mistake I have made in a long time.
I borrowed the $1200.00 from someone so that I could get this venture going so I could start making money off importing these pills. After 6 weeks I have received NOTHING! He told me that he would send in two separate envelopes and neither have arrived. I also orders 1g cocaine and 10 LSD blotters on the same day that I orders the pills and both of those arrived after 3 weeks. They were both waiting in my post box together. I do not believe that both packages were stolen because that is just unfuckingbelievable! What are the chances that both packages from the same vendor get stolen and everything makes it through fine? Absolute bullfuckingshit!!!!
I'm now sitting with a $1200.00 debt and I know that he fucked me over on this order! But what I don't understand is why he would rip off someone who is making such a big order? Clearly I was going to be a good customer but now that he butt-fucked me I will most definitely not be doing business with him again and I recommend that no else should either! If you do - STAY IN ESCROW!!!!
Through my communication with him, he didn't even know where the fuck I was from, after telling him TWICE before he still got it wrong, TWICE! Thought I was from two different countries. I know he never sent them, just pocketed my cash! He also told me that he will send me 10 pills as a tester to see if they make it - I guarantee you they will get "stolen" again! He never fucking sent these ones either! Bet your fucking ass-off!!! Besides, like 10 will make up for the $1200.00 loss I've now got!
FUCK AAKOVEN! I will be much better off buying from someone else like SKYY in future! If this was real-world I'd cut his fucking nuts off for this amount of money!!!
Anyway, I've accepted after 6 weeks of anxiously waiting that they will not be coming so now I'm just out to warn everyone about this fuck-tard!!!!
My order of $1200.00 should also impact his rating greatly, pitty it was a custom listing so no one will be able to see my review!
He's offered me a 25% refund which I suppose is better than nothing.... BUT STILL, i've lost over $900 - he's just pocketed that cash for nothing!!! I'm now on a mission to stop this from happening to other unlucky victims of the shithead!
Read my forum post here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=42001.0
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The problem is most newbies will miss reading just about anything.
I know I spent a week reading before I even considered a purchase.
The problem is the kid in the candy store for the first time.
Get BTC, screw pgp, order my stuff, screwed.
Now how do you stop me from FEing even after I should have known better?
Thats clearly my fault.
I say "fuck you" to vendors who require FE of trusted buyers.
Fuck them, forget them, I don't care how cheap, and good.
If we all did this, problem would solve itself.
It also takes a while to get "street smart".
You will get ripped off here, no matter who you are.
It's just for how much?
I have noticed a few traits of the random scammer.
If my order goes out in 1-2 days and arrives within a week, normally this vendor is good.
If the order takes a week, or goes "in transit" but is post marked days later, takes 2 weeks to arrive, this vendor will be trouble.
Certain exceptions would be 3dames, and other out of country vendors.