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Title: serioussam mdma review
Post by: jerryskid on November 04, 2011, 12:13 am
can anyone give a product report on serioussams mdma? thanks
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: jungle on November 07, 2011, 10:39 pm
I'm interested as well.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: moxiebadro on November 10, 2011, 03:18 am
I want to order some MDMA from him. The problem is I haven't seen too many of his clients updating their orders to received.

There just seems to be a lot of finalized early because of trusted seller clone messages which is strange.

Please people that have received recently or semi-recently reply in this thread. I would like to order from him but want to make sure all is well.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: otq1a on November 10, 2011, 03:20 am
I will hopefully be receiving an order in the next week or so. Will have a review then. Curious to see how it turns out. (getting both mdma and K btw)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bobbiebrown on November 10, 2011, 02:09 pm
Got envelope this morningm tryin tomorrow night.  I been rolling for 10 years an know my molly.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: moxiebadro on November 10, 2011, 02:28 pm
Got envelope this morningm tryin tomorrow night.  I been rolling for 10 years an know my molly.

great to know! 

keep us posted...
from the research i've been conducting.. it sure seems that sam is top notch!

i hope i'm right!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: MB80 on November 14, 2011, 10:52 pm
it's 11/14.  looks like BobbieBrown didn't make it :'(
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Rickards12 on November 15, 2011, 02:49 am
it's 11/14.  looks like BobbieBrown didn't make it :'(

It's too good quality, he overdosed ;)
However, was thinking about buying some, if someone tried please let us/me know!
I'll keep you updated if I buy it!
However serioussam seems very legit! (To judge about that thread : http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2098.msg42488#msg42488)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 15, 2011, 03:18 am
still waiting here -
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Beastie on November 16, 2011, 08:59 am
Ya, me too. Seriousam dose look legit. I bet it is good stuff but I really would like to here someone say so. I like how he says it is White and not brown or colored. There is no reason to sell brown MDMA. All you have to do is make some chloroform, put in the the frezer to get it cold then trickle it over the crystals until all the byproducts are washed away. At least that worked with the method I use to use i.e.

safrole + Hydrobromic acid in DMSO > bromosafrole
bromosafrole + methylamine with ferrous catalist in a "pipe bomb reation" > MDMA
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 16, 2011, 02:48 pm
What is safrole?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: ach2 on November 16, 2011, 05:40 pm
@cgault safrole is a precursor in the synthesis of mdma

I'm also looking for reviews of serioussam's mdma. His feedback looks good, but the early finalization requirement and lack of reviews on the forums considering the number of transactions he's made has me a little sketched
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: moxiebadro on November 16, 2011, 07:30 pm
i agree. i haven't found much in the forums per users orders reviews on anything.. maybe 1-2 fleeting ones. about ghb.. and that's all.

he does have very high scores.. but your right about the multitudes of finalizings and no real updates about receiving orders.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 16, 2011, 07:36 pm
This order is now in critical countdown. I understand the cross border transit issues. So I wait. I was apprised of the transit times by Sam, so we have a few more days to go before panic - anyhow, its was a tiny order. I think now with Paperchasing in the M biz, my days of releasing funds before receiving are over. Paperchasing actually encourages escrow. That's professionalism. and, his packing is pro.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 17, 2011, 01:36 am
I'm looking forward for my order to arrive any day.   It was shipped Nov 9 and I'm in Canada....
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: kwmi on November 17, 2011, 02:20 am
lol.  sounds like scammer.  mb it is pillowtalk on a new account here to scam more people.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: ihatebusinessorgz on November 17, 2011, 02:44 am
lol.  sounds like scammer.  mb it is pillowtalk on a new account here to scam more people.

what are you talking about?!?! Serioussam is an established seller that has been on SR for a long time now! I have ordered from him/her on a couple of occasions and the order made it to the U.S. no problem. Pillowtalk required releasing escrow, whereas to my knowledge, serioussam DOES NOT ask people to release escrow!!! Serioussam was around WAYYYY before pillowtalk, so how is pillowtalk "on a new account here to scam more people"? does not compute....

i'm sure the packages will be arriving eventually. SS is legit, and his GHB is bomb as fuck. i would not even doubt ordering from him/her again...

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 17, 2011, 02:48 am
Pillowtalk required releasing escrow, whereas to my knowledge, serioussam DOES NOT ask people to release escrow!!! Serioussam was around WAYYYY before pillowtalk, so how is pillowtalk "on a new account here to scam more people"? does not compute....

i'm sure the packages will be arriving eventually. SS is legit, and his GHB is bomb as fuck. i would not even doubt ordering from him/her again...

He does require early release for new customers and international, it's in his profile.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: moxiebadro on November 17, 2011, 02:53 am
that is all i see on his page isv finalized early... not many receiveds...his good communicating, we all just want package


 i am still giving him the benefit of te doubt
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on November 17, 2011, 03:09 am
I'm getting a little nervous as well. He said he shipped to the US on the 2nd and that it should take 1.5-2 weeks to get here. Two weeks later, and nothing yet. I'll wait a couple more days before I get really concerned, but this is looking a little iffy.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Beastie on November 17, 2011, 03:15 am
Mito Let us know how it is when you get it :)

Personally, I never thought he was a scammer. "bobbiebrown" said he did get the package but he never replied back with a report on how good it was. I just want to know how good the MDMA is. Basically, if it seems like it is cut with anything and that it is in fact MDMA. He says he ships regular mail. That dose take a freaking long time. However, my friend who works for USPS said regular mail was check the least, Priority mail check the most, and First Class second most. So, it is not that bad of an idea to ship regular ground mail.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: ihatebusinessorgz on November 17, 2011, 03:24 am
Pillowtalk required releasing escrow, whereas to my knowledge, serioussam DOES NOT ask people to release escrow!!! Serioussam was around WAYYYY before pillowtalk, so how is pillowtalk "on a new account here to scam more people"? does not compute....

i'm sure the packages will be arriving eventually. SS is legit, and his GHB is bomb as fuck. i would not even doubt ordering from him/her again...

He does require early release for new customers and international, it's in his profile.

News to me... i have ordered from him/her and he never required releasing escrow. that was a long time ago (during the summer) so maybe he changed his ways....

i'll be checking on this thread, because i would usually trust SS since he has always come through. but if he really did turn scammer, then i retract my previous statement...

I don't think he's pillowtalk though. PT seems more like peopleb4profits to me....
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 17, 2011, 03:31 am
pillowtalk is/was from europe.

serioussam is from canada.........
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 17, 2011, 03:33 pm
Hi guys, lost my password for my serioussam forum account.  If anyone has any doubts what this is me, they can send me a PM encrypted with my pub key on my profile to verify.  Ok, first I would like to point out that this is no scam.  I have been on SR and was strictly dealing with GHB and nothing else for a while now and just got into selling other items.  With the GHB, I will never require escrow for it, but these others I have no choice but to require new buyers and those who are not in my country to release before I ship.  There are a number of US customers who have received their items no problem and I know this because they have said thanks directly to me for them.  I have had packages go awol  before but eventually show up.  If anyone is having an issue with a package not being delivered or think that the ship time has been too long, JUST ASM ME, because thats what I am there for.  I am always willing to help out customers wherever I can and if packages do not make it I need to know about it before I can do anything for them. 
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 17, 2011, 04:19 pm
Reasonable enough
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: moxiebadro on November 17, 2011, 04:30 pm
i vouch for serioussam for what he is saying.. he has been the best communicator i've ever had .. on here,,, and any business for that matter..


answeringing every single question... and is very very helpful.. and goes out of his way to help too,

that's my 02, from my dealings with sam
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: daisukii on November 17, 2011, 05:49 pm
Dear Sam,
Sent you 2 pms on SR. One pgp encrypted, and the other was in plain-text because I wasn't sure if it went through properly. Can you get back to me if possible? Even if the answer is just a clear 'no' :)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lightonion on November 17, 2011, 07:01 pm
This thread had me worried for a bit, but I think serioussam reassured me. After looking over serioussam and his history, I remember why I trusted him with an out of escrow transaction even without doing business with him before.

There are a lot of signs that point to serioussam's legitimacy and I'm going to lay them out to ease not only my own paranoia, but as well as those who are awaiting their packages (but mostly my own, lol). Also, serioussam's service deserves promotion. However, I am also going to lay out the signs that point to a scammer/sketchy operation, so that you can decide for yourself, and so that serioussam has a chance to answer publicly (or privately, if you want) for those signs.

**I'm not a super active forum member, but if you browse my posts, you can see I have been around for awhile and didn't just make this account for this.

:::::Legitimacy:::::
> Has been a member for 5 months. You might not realize that 5 months is a long time ago, long before scammers were abundant on SR. I don't think he planned it, but if you're that paranoid, hell, I can't prove it.
> Has running updates of his stock and listings on his user page. Most scammers typically just have an "unlimited supply", so this usually isn't a feature.
> He knows his shit about his shit. Most scammers don't actually quite understand what they're selling, but serioussam's depth of knowledge is impressive enough to peg him as a non-scammer, however, that doesn't mean that there aren't knowledgable scammers out there. They're actually the best.
> HE HAS 117 TRANSACTIONS COMPLETED! And he's had a lot of those for over a month. How many scammers do you know that got this many transactions before starting a scam?

> Page 4 of his feedback:
5 of 5 : Received ok and product seems very good.  Three day ship in same province. 7g MDMA
5 of 5 : weight spot on and got free sample k with order. 14g MDMA
Notice both aren't early finalizations. The first one is definitely through escrow, as it's in the same province, which follows serioussam's procedures. I assume the second one was as well.
Also, Notice how the orders are 14g and 7g MDMA. Those are expensive orders, and if he was faking those, he'd have to pay SR fees on a bigger order, when he could get that feedback by paying the SR fees on a 1g order instead. Also the non-generic feedbacks indicate he probably didn't write them. Not to say someone who thinks really far ahead COULDN'T do this, but I'm doubtful that serioussam took all these precautions in mind in preparing a scam.

> Page 5 through 10 of his feedback:
All of this feedback is from more than a month ago, up to four months ago. Since there have been no major complaints about serioussam on the forums as of yet, we can fairly assume that those people got their orders fulfilled, and I doubt he did 6 pages of dummy over a period of 3 months 1 month ago in order to set up for scamming you. Also, all uniques seem genuinely unique. If he can come up with this many unique responses, he's pretty creative.

> Page 8 of his feedback:
2 of 5 : heavily cut with something - 10g GHB
2 of 5 : heavily cut with something - 10g GHB

This feedback is significant for a few reasons. (1) it's negative feedback. He did not give himself negative feedback, and he DEFINITELY did not give himself two 2/5 negative feedbacks, so this proves that he was taking at least some orders during this time.
Also, take a look at his post here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2098.msg17617#msg17617

He openly criticizes the 2/5 ratings and calls the rater out on not talking to serioussam first, who would've resolved the issue. He seems overall genuinely like he wants to help his customers in this angry rant (as weird as it sounds, lol), which is above and beyond what a scammer would need to do.

OK, and now, here is why everybody is so paranoid, the reasons that you are still hesitant to buy from serioussam and why you who already have are afraid you wont see your package:
> ALMOST FOUR PAGES FULL OF FINALIZED ORDERS IN FEEDBACK!
This is scary because this is what we see in every single scammer vendor we come across on SR. However, for whatever reason, about two weeks ago, serioussam started to get a lot of orders and has gotten a ton since then.
> NO RESPECTED SR MEMBER HAS CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED AN ORDER RECENTLY
There have been one or two members with postcounts near, if not at 1 who claimed to have gotten an order. Even if these are legitimate buyers who got their treats, no self-respecting SR user would accept that as evidence unfortunately. Recently ihatebusinessorgz (66) vouched for serioussam's service earlier in the summer, though that doesn't really prove anything for now, but does tell us that he was at least one time legitimate.
> serioussam went awhile without answering this forum topic, which worried me, but he came through today.

::::MY FINAL ANALYSIS::::
Conclusion: serioussam is legitimate.
Because: Though one could conceivably fake serioussam's past to appear legitimate, there's really no reason a scammer would ever want/need to for their purposes. Also it would probably be a lot more work than a scammer is willing to put in, because they are scammers after all.

I'm doing this mostly so I stop thinking about possibly being scammed while I wait for this order to arrive, but I hope to have helped those who were on the fence about it and let others rest at ease.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 17, 2011, 08:12 pm
Good analysis.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: jerryskid on November 17, 2011, 10:39 pm
This post was not started to ask about serioussams vendor qualities and attributes. His feedback and the forums tell everything I need to know about him as a seller, I want to know about the molly. Several of us are still waiting on product review. Serioussam if you read this, this is no offense or dis towards you, as I said you are top end vendor.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: clonecap on November 18, 2011, 06:25 am
I just put an order in, I'll post an update when it arrives.  I'm in the US so I'm hoping a shipment from Canada won't get confiscated.  This is my second attempt at getting MDMA on SR, my first try was with aakoven from the Netherlands but the package never came.  I think anything from the Netherlands is probably big red flag to customs.  Hopefully I'll have better luck with serioussam.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 18, 2011, 11:59 am
^^^^ did aakoven refund you?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bigblack on November 18, 2011, 09:07 pm
i have an order, its been 10 days since it was mailed to me and still nothing. im a bit worried.

packages from EU usually take 8 days at most.

we will see some monday...

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 18, 2011, 09:17 pm
^^^ Are you in the US or Canada?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 19, 2011, 12:45 am
Critical Countdown day 11 Far Northeastern USA - No Judgement.

But thank you Paperchasing - his of offering of Mitanox's Orange M (Should be a brand name) is stellar, if not a wee bit pricey. Hey, but what price comfort and reliability? I am rolling now.

It is sooooooo gooooooood - the best I have had in a long time. 

Ok, Sam, benefit of the doubt, you said max 14 days.....3 to go.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 19, 2011, 12:58 am
<3   

MDA here!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 19, 2011, 01:02 am
Was that from Sam?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 19, 2011, 01:36 am
dopeboy
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: clonecap on November 19, 2011, 11:59 pm
^^^^ did aakoven refund you?

He offered me a discount on a second order but I decided to go with sam instead.  AAkoven has 14+ shipping time to the US (it's been over 40days since my first order) and I didn't want to wait 2-3 weeks to find out the package isn't coming.  I figured since sam ships from Canada I'll have a better chance at receiving it.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: clonecap on November 20, 2011, 12:03 am
I finalized my order with Serioussam yesterday, he said it'd take 5-7 days to arrive.  I finalized late in the day so I guess he'll ship it out on monday, I'll post an update when I receive it.  If by luck it gets here by next weekend I'll sample the product too :)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 20, 2011, 12:52 am
^^^ keep us updated
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Diss0lve on November 20, 2011, 02:17 am
^^^^ did aakoven refund you?

He offered me a discount on a second order but I decided to go with sam instead.  AAkoven has 14+ shipping time to the US (it's been over 40days since my first order) and I didn't want to wait 2-3 weeks to find out the package isn't coming.  I figured since sam ships from Canada I'll have a better chance at receiving it.

That shouldn't be right... there are numerous accounts of him reaching the US in less than 10 days including business days.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: clonecap on November 20, 2011, 08:36 am
^^^^ did aakoven refund you?

He offered me a discount on a second order but I decided to go with sam instead.  AAkoven has 14+ shipping time to the US (it's been over 40days since my first order) and I didn't want to wait 2-3 weeks to find out the package isn't coming.  I figured since sam ships from Canada I'll have a better chance at receiving it.

That shouldn't be right... there are numerous accounts of him reaching the US in less than 10 days including business days.

Yup, I saw he shipped quickly in the forums. He had a great rep in the forums and good feedback on SR.   I'm in the west coast of the USA and his profile said "REST USA 7-14 DAYS" so I waited 14 days to ask for a status.  He told me to wait another week and then after a week offered me a discount on a second order.  At that point it had been over 20 days and I wanted the mdma for Halloween so I decided to get some BK-MDMA from a US seller because he could ship to me in time (he was a good seller, good product but it wasn't the same as real mdma). Around that time was when SR went down for a week and exchangebitcoin went down too.  I tried some moneypak trades to get bitcoins but got scammed(my fault for being stupid), eventually I got more bitc from get-bitcoin.com.  I PM'd aakoven again and he offered me the same discount and offered a 100% refund on the second order if it didn't arrive.  Through the whole process aakoven was very quick and responsive to my pm's but I just can't wait that long for the product.  I've got a real life and few opportunities to roll, all my vacation time for the year is coming over thanksgiving and christmas so after that I won't be able to roll for a few months.  I just can' risk any shipping delays so I figured sam was a safer bet since he ships from Canada and promises 5-7 days shipping time.  If I get sam's shipment by next saturday I'll sample it since I have most of the following week off, otherwise I'll need to wait until mid December when I have more time off work


Oh btw, aakoven said he's only lost 4 of 500+ shipments to the US.  I tend to believe him because with amount of transaction's he's done there would definitely be a crap load of complaints in the forums which there are not.  I think i just got a bad break with my order, I would order from him again (especially since he's offering me a 100% refund if it doesn't deliver) but I need a asap shipping time.  If I don't get my order in the next week or so then I might not get to roll until after next year :(..  I should mention I've never done molly's before only tabs of E + (god knows what).  Every time I've tried E i've been hung over for a day or two afterwards and depressed for another day or two so even though this is pure mdma I still need to plan a few days to recovery before going back to daily grind.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 21, 2011, 05:44 pm
Would those of you who have received your items, and I know many have because of the many messages I have received thanking me for getting it to you safely, please please please change your feedback from finalizing early to something reflecting the product and/or services I provided?  I want people to know that have good product, but the only way they will know for sure is from your own experiences.  Thanks!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Pyryn on November 21, 2011, 06:16 pm
Would those of you who have received your items, and I know many have because of the many messages I have received thanking me for getting it to you safely, please please please change your feedback from finalizing early to something reflecting the product and/or services I provided?  I want people to know that have good product, but the only way they will know for sure is from your own experiences.  Thanks!

Yeah seriously, people need to update their feedback for the rest of us...If you're going to use SR, that's a bit of a minor responsibility on the part of a buyer. It's pretty obnoxious to not have people update their feedback, as I probably would have ordered from Serioussam a week ago had I seen some decent, full feedback.  Doesn't take a lot of effort to do, laziness is annoying.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lightonion on November 21, 2011, 07:43 pm
It's been over 21 days (3 weeks!) for some of the customers who bought from serioussam early. The fact that STILL nobody has come forth with an update saying they received a package is very suspicious. I can't help but assume that serioussam was a legit seller that went scammer when he saw a good opportunity. All those early finalized transactions add up to a LOTTT of money, and yet still nobody has seen anything.

As an update to my analysis, the only thing I can assume is that serioussam was ONCE a legit vendor, as I can't really find anything definitive that proves his legitimacy as of right now, especially relating to MDMA and 2c-b sales.

I was also a bit worried to see the update that said "last of M and 2c-b is listed, what you see is what you get" and then later see the listings change. I can't really find a good explaination for that other than moving to smaller quantities, which is a possibility, as I didn't check the quantity available either time.

He's been on "the last of" his stock for awhile now but still has listings up...

All I can do now is hope that serioussam is legit, but the outlook isn't very good.

I have an order in with you serioussam, and you saw my claim that he was legitimate earlier in the thread. You should know that I'm rooting for serioussam to come through, and if I receive my package, you can bet money not only will I become a huge supporter, but I'll also update this thread the second it arrives along with posting a detailed review from experienced users shortly after!

Just praying we weren't all victims of another scam. If anyone has received their goods from serioussam please step forward ASAP and put our minds at ease!

-Lightonion
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 21, 2011, 08:26 pm
Quote
He's been on "the last of" his stock for awhile now but still has listings up...

I have a few cancelled orders which is why some has gone back in stock.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lightonion on November 21, 2011, 08:49 pm
how do you have cancelled orders when your policy is finalize early?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 21, 2011, 08:56 pm
how do you have cancelled orders when your policy is finalize early?

Because some people sent a PM before I confirmed the orders.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: moxiebadro on November 21, 2011, 10:07 pm
It's been over 21 days (3 weeks!) for some of the customers who bought from serioussam early. The fact that STILL nobody has come forth with an update saying they received a package is very suspicious. I can't help but assume that serioussam was a legit seller that went scammer when he saw a good opportunity. All those early finalized transactions add up to a LOTTT of money, and yet still nobody has seen anything.

As an update to my analysis, the only thing I can assume is that serioussam was ONCE a legit vendor, as I can't really find anything definitive that proves his legitimacy as of right now, especially relating to MDMA and 2c-b sales.

I was also a bit worried to see the update that said "last of M and 2c-b is listed, what you see is what you get" and then later see the listings change. I can't really find a good explaination for that other than moving to smaller quantities, which is a possibility, as I didn't check the quantity available either time.

He's been on "the last of" his stock for awhile now but still has listings up...

All I can do now is hope that serioussam is legit, but the outlook isn't very good.

I have an order in with you serioussam, and you saw my claim that he was legitimate earlier in the thread. You should know that I'm rooting for serioussam to come through, and if I receive my package, you can bet money not only will I become a huge supporter, but I'll also update this thread the second it arrives along with posting a detailed review from experienced users shortly after!

Just praying we weren't all victims of another scam. If anyone has received their goods from serioussam please step forward ASAP and put our minds at ease!

-Lightonion


i ordered mdma from sam almost 3 weeks ago and it hasn't arrived!!!!!!! i am also in the same country... i have made several orders on this site before and finalized early because he was a trusted and canadian seller which the country i just so happen to live in. I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I ordered an order from reich for pcp 5 days after sam for mdma and it arrived today. but no package from sam.

I don't know what the fuck to say. I really have no willingness to flogg him in the forums.. nor give him a bad review.. frankly this just makes me very ill to my stomach.. and gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

i have said from the begining.. that he has a shit load of finalized early's  and maybe 1 received.

if i happen to receive the order tomorrow.. which i seriouslydoubt.. pun intended. i will post so... but at this point.. i am pissed jaded and dissilusioned.\\
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on November 21, 2011, 11:37 pm
Yeah, this is looking very very shady indeed. I hate to be spreading unrest, but I left for vacation 15 days after he said he shipped and there was nothing. I guess if there's still nothing when I get back a week from today I can confirm that I won't be getting anythin. It's heartening to see him here defending himself, but it also gives me a sickly feeling that he's just trying to squeeze out a few more early finalizings before he gets exposed as a scammer and banned. Moxiebadro's story is particularly suspicious. I have to admit that I'm assuming the worst at this point.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 22, 2011, 07:12 am
Just the facts: 13 days,nada. Tomorrow, 14 days even, I will check - losing some hope. No judgement yet - I have had faster Canadian post services before.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: AussieBeanz on November 22, 2011, 10:16 am
I ordered something else from Canada a few days after my order with sam said he shipped and this other product arrived yesterday via the same delivery method Sam said uses, his last feedback comment that said the product arrived was over a month ago. This smells like scam to me....
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 22, 2011, 02:57 pm
Guys, if anyone is having an issue with not receiving a pack, please PM me on SR.  I have had a couple packs go awol of late and am resending a couple xpresspost, no signature required.   AussieBeanz, if I recall correctly you are from Australia.  I have had a lot of success shipping to Australia, even larger amounts that what you requested.  But you do have to know that shipping overseas can be long and Australian customs are tough on packages, maybe they got it for all I know.  I will resend priority to AUS if you don't receive it, but would hold on a day or so more before I will conclude it as being lost.  I would reship this priority mail to Aus so that it would get there in under a week.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 23, 2011, 12:30 am
15 days.....no show. Sent PM, I will check my mail AM, and work with the vendor.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: AussieBeanz on November 23, 2011, 01:37 am
Sorry Sam, just getting a bit worried and overwhelmed with all these posts claiming scam. I'm happy to wait a few more days. Thanks for your response.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bjhaus on November 23, 2011, 01:42 pm
I'm in the same boat unfortunately.  Made 2 separate orders with SeriousSam three weeks ago, neither have arrived. I ordered from another Canadian seller a few days later and that letter arrived last week. I've successfully ordered from Sam into Australia in the past and the packaging is good.

I'm not calling scam but while losing a few international letters at once is possible, when several domestic Canadian orders also go missing at the same time, something's going wrong somewhere.

Are the letters personally posted by you Sam?, just curious.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 23, 2011, 03:42 pm
I have changed a number of things since these few missing packs were reported, including the packing method, profile I send packs as and where the drops are.  I even hoisted my car up at a buddies car shop to check for tracking devices.  I am not sure what else I can do from here as a preventative measure.  And for packs I tape down all labels to make sure they don't get torn off and I also glue the envelopes closed instead of just moistening the sticky strip so that they don't accidentally open.  Who knows what happened to the lot, it could even be the mailman stealing them which is why I am driving way outside his delivery area now to make sure he does not have contact with any of my outbound mail.  I would highly doubt it's LE either. 
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 23, 2011, 04:45 pm
Dear Sam,

Please don't forget to reply to my message.

Thanks.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 23, 2011, 07:54 pm
GHB listing coming soon...
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: rev on November 23, 2011, 11:19 pm
Has anyone actually received a package from the seller in the last month? Every single feedback is a permutation of "finalize early" Still waiting on my package after a week in domestic transit. Not too miffed as I did not finalize early. Let's see what happens. I'll give it another week.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 23, 2011, 11:24 pm
Four letters

S
C
A
M

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: rev on November 23, 2011, 11:44 pm
If you know something that the rest of us don't know that indicates the seller to be a scammer, tell us.

If you know as much as the rest of us, and from that draw a conclusion of the seller to be a scammer, summarize why.

If you have no arguments, please don't keep saying "scam"

The more you spam, the more the forum will think you're annoying. It'll actually hurt your message.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 23, 2011, 11:50 pm
Did you not see the messages above?   People complaining, lots of orders missing.   Bad sign.

BEWARE BUYERS.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 24, 2011, 01:05 am
To all of you who have posted here with missing orders from SeriousScam, did you receive anything?

He's going to disappear this weekend, read my lips. There's a new account from Canada selling GHB, I suspect it's him.  He is preparing his exit from SR by leaving many customers without their orders.  He is too quiet.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 24, 2011, 01:34 am
Has anyone actually received a package from the seller in the last month? Every single feedback is a permutation of "finalize early" Still waiting on my package after a week in domestic transit. Not too miffed as I did not finalize early. Let's see what happens. I'll give it another week.

Where are his product reviews? All his feedback are "finalize early". Where are the customers with missing orders?  Why is SS silent? Come on man, be a man and show up.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 24, 2011, 02:13 am
Yes, I have a handful of first orders that have not made it and I am rectifying it on a one on one basis.    I am not going to respond to anymore messages today, I have to deal with the current issues and make sure I get everything settled, then I will respond to the SR messages I got today about this.   And no, the other canadian is not me, what the hell is "Liquid GHB" supposed to be anyways? GHB mixed with water??????
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 02:18 am
sorry sam ddid not see this msg..look forward to hearing from you.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: TFlenderson on November 24, 2011, 06:58 am
Ordered 7 grams of MDMA 10 days ago, was told it would be about a week but still haven't received. Crossing my fingers this isn't a scam.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: VendorReviewer on November 24, 2011, 07:02 am
Notice the 1 post count, do not trust me.

I created a new account so that serioussam doesn't know who I am and therefore give me negative service because of it.

@serioussam: I already messaged you about resolving my order and your response was not satisfactory, and your response to my second message is completely nonexistent.

More evidence of serioussam being a scammer:
1. He has said his stock of MDMA and 2c-b are low, but he has consistantly had a 14g listing up all the time for the past few days, only 1 available (saying what you see is what you get) and after selling one and getting an early finalize, he lists another, indicating that he's just trying to squeeze out as much as he can before he disappears.

2. When I placed my order, I asked for him to lower the price pretty significantly, and he argued for awhile and finally agreed. When I told him I didn't have enough to pay, he offered to lower the price again, which means he was probably just trying to squeeze what he could out of me, though I just thought he was being friendly/helpful at the time.

3. All of the positive feedback on 14g MDMA, 7g MDMA, etc., which say that they received the order, and service/packaging was good, etc. Are listings with the exact same name that he uses now, but are different listings. These were taken down. This suggests to me that he made these listings with a low price tag, in a hidden category like lab supplies, so that he could buy them himself to boost his reviews.

I think at this point, it's clear that serioussam was just another scammer this time around. Whether he got his account stolen or not, whoever is in control is taking advantage of a seller account with good previous history to create a very successful scam where his buyers trust him. Turning his buyers' trust against them. Despicable.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 11:27 am
Hi Sam,

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.   

Should I expect my order today or tomorrow? 

You promised an update.

Thank you.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 03:03 pm
hi sam. i'm also looking forward to hearing from you.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: KingJoey on November 24, 2011, 03:14 pm
Guys please you have too use your common sense. If the price is too low and the seller isnt at least doubling thier money then its safe to assume its a scam. you should not be expecting to buy 14GRAMS of MDMA PURE for $400. I just bought 10grams for a STEAL of a deal and it was $400. Now the difference is that I am going too get my order. This guy has the lowest prices in the world and early finalization. Please use common sense in the future. Drugs are all about money and greed. No dealer is dealing drugs just for his own pleasures they take the risk because of the financial gain involved. When that financial gain is removed we need too ask ourselves what is the motivation. The two motives we see are because they are either a cop or a hustler who is going too get something for nothing.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 24, 2011, 03:58 pm
Hey, prices are slightly lower because I am able to deal in larger quantity than many other vendors.  Yes, financial gain is the goal, but not quite in the picture you see it.  My goal is to make some money yes, but the true explanation of my goal is to become "the go to person" on SR for these products and blow the little fishes out of the water.  I don't need to make 50% profit on sales to make decent profit and in reality It's more like 25% in the end.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lightonion on November 24, 2011, 04:34 pm
Dear Sam,

like Mito and others, I am patiently awaiting your response to my message.

-Lightonion
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 04:41 pm
After reading all these messages and the hysterical spams, I hope everything is ok with him.

The cops could have hijacked his account for all we know......     :-[
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 24, 2011, 05:09 pm
SORRY GUYS.  IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED SERIOUSSAM IS A SCAMMER:  http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5852.0
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 24, 2011, 05:17 pm
Thank you ChronicPain.   Can we have his account suspended now?  Customers are still placing orders!!!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 05:22 pm
he just says that 18kct or whatever his name is said he was him.. and he was scamming..

i don't believe him though..
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 05:24 pm
Doesn't look good now, his profile is getting 1/5 feedback.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 05:26 pm
sorry guys, I just thought it would be funny to admit that I was serious_sam last night. I didn't think anyone would take me seriously, I just wanted to see how he tried to convince people that i am not him, or that he is not me, or whatever. I was mainly posting to fuck with King Blowme

so serious_sam may be legit, he ,may be a scam, but if you don't want to lose your money, don't finalize early!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lightonion on November 24, 2011, 05:27 pm
@serious_scam:

your posts are getting extremely annoying, even for those of us who have been scammed.

Nowhere in that post does anything confirm 100% that serioussam is a scammer. Like was stated previously, anyone could say they are serioussam and are scamming, for example:

I, Lightonion, am serioussam and have scammed all of you, you wont get any of your packages or money back.

So that's 100% proof that serioussam is a scammer right?

Also, mods will NOT be able to lock his account. SR is probably the only one who has privileges to that at all, and probably wont use them, as this is supposed to be a free marketplace, we're buying at our own risk

-Lightonion
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 05:31 pm
well, there is a difference between just anyone saying that they are 'sam have been scamming, and someone like me saying it. it just rang a bit more when I said it, but I am sorry for stirring shit up in an already spammed vendor thread.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 05:33 pm
Well, its up to sam. He told me he would ship expresspost to me. He told me and i presume mito as well. that it would be shipped  hopefully yesterday. or the day before.

I am waiting for his relply.

we are cats... watching the string.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 05:40 pm
He said he shipped xpresspost last monday and was going to provide update yesterday.   

nothing...  he's not replying to my messages anymore.

:(
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 05:42 pm
SORRY GUYS.  IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED SERIOUSSAM IS A SCAMMER:  http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5852.0

dude, you're hysterical.   

How much money did you lose?     :o        ;D
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lamf9808 on November 24, 2011, 06:01 pm
Yes, I have a handful of first orders that have not made it and I am rectifying it on a one on one basis.    I am not going to respond to anymore messages today, I have to deal with the current issues and make sure I get everything settled, then I will respond to the SR messages I got today about this.   And no, the other canadian is not me, what the hell is "Liquid GHB" supposed to be anyways? GHB mixed with water??????

Sam, I messaged you 2-3 days ago about two orders (one fairly large order) that I placed and finalized early 2 and a half weeks ago being shipped within Canada. You have not responded yet to me and I'm hoping for a response today as you've said you're handling it on a one-on-one basis. You originally said the order would take maybe 4-6 days but it's been 11 business days now! Please respond to me soon, I have been patiently waiting for an update or explanation for why I haven't received my order yet!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 06:08 pm
mine has been over 20 days and he  said he re-shipped it in 10 days ago.. now that i say that out loud.... damn!!! (within canada) he is not replying to my messages either
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 24, 2011, 06:12 pm
mine has been over 20 days and he  said he re-shipped it in 10 days ago.. now that i say that out loud.... damn!!! (within canada) he is not replying to my messages either

Live and learn - he is either a crook, is being watched and intercepted by LE, or LE has taken Sam's identity and is collecting addresses.

Edit: he reached out to me on PM about a reship, and I told him to hold off - I didnt want to give a compromised address to a cop. Also, I sent him an encrypted PM, using his old pub key - no answer - which means that its possible that police got a hold of the "real" Sames account but not his key.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 06:13 pm
Our money is gone.......   :D 
I hope admins close down his account.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 06:17 pm
If someone has a few bitcoins left, then place an order and lets see if he'll put the order "in transit" expecting that you finalize early......   LOL!!!

:)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 06:30 pm
i still after all this want to give him the benefit of the doubt. i really want product
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 24, 2011, 06:35 pm
Did anyone get anything? - if not, we may have more than a scammer - we may have a first for LE collecting addresses. Be careful.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: exgo on November 24, 2011, 07:07 pm
this is really energy depleeting for fuck sakes!  so many messages back and forth.. talking with other buyers to see if they got it yet...

messaging him over and over and over again... going to the post office every fuckin day looking in an empty box.. anger and dissapointment swirling deeper together everytime i see that there is no letter in mailbox.receivi g..

ugh.

x this feeling by everyone who didn't receive.


I just what what i paid for

statistics would disagree that not one person didn't receive pack.. and lottery winning liken here folks... he sent me pack 2x domestic..me not getting it is very very ... it do 't add up... for those that took statistics/math



sam please answer message guve me tracking number for pack please
i just want my product.
\thanks
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: fml on November 24, 2011, 07:23 pm
7 pages without a single positive review, this guy is a scammer or LE
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 07:26 pm
I'm afraid he won't come here anymore.........  :(
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 07:27 pm
7 pages without a single positive review, this guy is a scammer or LE

FML

I lost my virginity here in SR.........
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 24, 2011, 07:33 pm
^^^ This is PillowTalk all over again.    PillowTalk was an excellent seller, I got my K from him.     The suddenly one week later he bailed out and the rest we all know..............

:(
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: curlywurly on November 24, 2011, 10:01 pm
Damn, this serioussams name is all over the place yet I still see people ordering from him!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: fml on November 24, 2011, 10:05 pm
7 pages without a single positive review, this guy is a scammer or LE

FML

I lost my virginity here in SR.........
wait what lol
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: scamtest on November 24, 2011, 10:20 pm
LOL. I've been serioussam, he is just so blatant. I can't believe people are still falling for it.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 24, 2011, 10:25 pm
Damn, this serioussams name is all over the place yet I still see people ordering from him!

ADMINS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD:

SHUTDOWN SERIOUSSAM'S ACCOUNT.

Quote
1 of 5   Scammer. Didn't receive.   item   53 minutes
5 of 5   finalizing early, due to overseas shipping   item   1 hour
1 of 5   didnt recieve   item   5 hours
1 of 5      item   5 hours

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: simpatico on November 25, 2011, 01:38 am
All I can say is shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, damn, and fuck.

I am sick of getting scammed on here. I screwed up the address the first time, copped to it and told him it was my mistake, then reordered at a discount and now am reading that no one is getting anything.

I seriously hope he isn't, but if I don't receive anything by next Friday, I am gonna be pissed and will make sure everyone knows on here. If I do receive it, I will shout from the mountain top that he is KING.

Crossing my fingers.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 01:45 am
^^^ Uncross your fingers my friend.

Serioussam is gone.

Consider this a lesson.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: beezlebot on November 25, 2011, 04:02 am
I am still waiting for a substantial order form serious_sam after 15 days, previous intl orders have taken 5-6 days from other vendors


The canada post website states it should take around six days to my country

:/
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Pyryn on November 25, 2011, 07:43 am
Yeah I'm pretty astounded people are still ordering from him. Very obviously a scammer...everyone is asked to finalize early, he never follows through, yet people still continue to "purchase" his product over SR.  Wise up! Anyone who does this is losing their money immediately.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 25, 2011, 12:39 pm
ADMINS, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

SHUTDOWN HIS ACCOUNT FOR CHRIST'S SAKES.

DOWN WITH SERIOUSSAM
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 25, 2011, 01:29 pm

The problem is that most 5/5 feedback are created by Serioussam himself.   If you click the "Item" link you will see that the listing is gone.
He creates customs listings that cost 0.0, so any recently created account (clone) can leave a 5/5 feedback.   Later he deletes this custom listing.
This is why admins must step in and shutdown his account for good.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 01:58 pm
^^^  I agree.   Users are to blame too for not giving low feedback. 

Though I must add that closing his account isn't a bad idea.

Serioussam is lurking around, he just read a message I sent him in SR.

Show up you coward.

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 02:13 pm
His account should not be shut down. We have no proof that he is a scammer. His account should be prevented from cashing out though.

I agree, maybe not shutdown completely, perhaps suspended and kept open as a case study of how scammers operate.

I'm pretty sure he is a scammer, just read all the reports of orders not being delivered, plus that hysterical dude spamming the forums, he must have lost a lot of money...  LOL!

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lamf9808 on November 25, 2011, 03:11 pm
Did anyone even get a reply from him yesterday?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 06:07 pm
Another problem is that the the vast majority of sellers only do out of escrow, so buyers sometimes have no choice.

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 25, 2011, 06:16 pm
Someone just finalized early with 5/5.  The scam is still active.
ARE THERE ANY MODS AROUND?
WHERE IS MANAGEMENT?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 07:34 pm
Yeah, I just noticed in his profile that people are finalizing.

He must be laughing at us.

Perhaps it's time for SR admins to act?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Loki on November 25, 2011, 08:23 pm
Yeah, I just noticed in his profile that people are finalizing.

He must be laughing at us.

Perhaps it's time for SR admins to act?

Prolly laffin at us all the way to the bank too.  Fuck are we screwed or ????????. 
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 25, 2011, 08:49 pm
Now listen to me all, I am very serious here, more serious than serious sam - no more out of escrow transactions from me. Period. If all the buyers act as one, then we will put the train back on the rails.

I made two order, one with sam, one with Paperchasing. Sam's order was finalized early and no show, paperchasing's order was IN Escrow, it M was the bomb, and it took three days to get here.

I want all of you who got screwed here to take a pledge, right here, right now, to never want any goods more than your good sense will allow. Understand.  ????? Here is the pledge that I, Charlines Gault, take now and for all time:

" I will not buy and Silk Road vendor's item out of escrow, ever again".

I hereby promise my fellow buyers that no vendor here shall ever get another bitcoin from me, outside of the escrow system" I am making this pledge to you, my fellow buyers in this great experiment called freedom. We can lose the whole ship if this early finalization trend gets any more out of hand
Do it for me.
Do it for yourselves.
Do it for the community of silkroad buyers, as we have the collective power. if we do this all together, the scammers will go elsewhere. 
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 25, 2011, 09:02 pm
That's two of us.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 09:02 pm
^^^ I agree.

But who sells Ketamine in escrow?


 :(
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Denizen on November 25, 2011, 09:03 pm
Now listen to me all, I am very serious here, more serious than serious sam - no more out of escrow transactions from me. Period. If all the buyers act as one, then we will put the train back on the rails.

I made two order, one with sam, one with Paperchasing. Sam's order was finalized early and no show, paperchasing's order was IN Escrow, it M was the bomb, and it took three days to get here.

I want all of you who got screwed here to take a pledge, right here, right now, to never want any goods more than your good sense will allow. Understand.  ????? Here is the pledge that I, Charlines Gault, take now and for all time:

" I will not buy and Silk Road vendor's item out of escrow, ever again".

I hereby promise my fellow buyers that no vendor here shall ever get another bitcoin from me, outside of the escrow system" I am making this pledge to you, my fellow buyers in this great experiment called freedom. We can lose the whole ship if this early finalization trend gets any more out of hand
Do it for me.
Do it for yourselves.
Do it for the community of silkroad buyers, as we have the collective power. if we do this all together, the scammers will go elsewhere.

YOU HAVE MY SWORD

AND MY BOW
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 09:04 pm
LOL @ feedback:

Quote
1 of 5   fucking scammer. i knew the finalize early thing was a fucking con. GOD DAMN you will one day suck my cock sam. i promise you
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 09:05 pm
Serioussam is lurking around as he's reading messages I'm sending him in SR...

Obviously he's not replying and is silent.

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 25, 2011, 09:12 pm
I would not his mouth on my schlong - pledge that you will never go out of escrow, and I want the SR management to give fair notice that a new policy will be put in place - any vendor that asks for non escrow transactions will be suspended. 
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: ozguy on November 25, 2011, 09:13 pm
I'm in!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Denizen on November 25, 2011, 09:20 pm
Cgault, you should make a new thread about this.

I agree. Subject line: "The out-of-escrow problem is out-of-hand."
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Loki on November 25, 2011, 09:34 pm
LOL @ feedback:

Quote
1 of 5   fucking scammer. i knew the finalize early thing was a fucking con. GOD DAMN you will one day suck my cock sam. i promise you


LOL yeah, if you knew it was a con, why did you even bother?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 09:38 pm
No bigblack, you will be sucking someones cock.........   
                <------------  Likes to buy lots of MDMA, nice beige bungalow, is that a Ford Escort I
I remove, now away wit U, may b next time you not have such bad potty mouth


No personal info, not even with letters or numbers missing... just not cool...
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 25, 2011, 09:43 pm
MODS PLEASE DELETE THE ABOVE ADDRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 09:45 pm
Guss we now know who serious_scam is LOL
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 09:46 pm
Would you like a side of popo with that pizza sir?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 09:54 pm
No bigblack, you will be sucking someones cock.........   

No personal info                  <------------  Likes to buy lots of MDMA, nice beige bungalow, is that a Ford Escort


Maybe a call to the cops about a man pointing a gun out the window would be fun :)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 10:10 pm
I have yer infoz in my puter for ze onez who are not nize.  Tisk tisk little kitty.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_scam on November 25, 2011, 10:12 pm
I am in touch with mods, you're gonna get it.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 10:13 pm
Venus lovezzzzz all your billz, so soft, purrrrr purrrrr.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 25, 2011, 10:16 pm
ROFL!!!  The plot thickens!

:)   :)
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Loki on November 25, 2011, 10:19 pm
How do we even know that venus is serioussam?  Could be anyone!!!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Sobchak on November 25, 2011, 10:25 pm
How do we even know that venus is serioussam?  Could be anyone!!!
I bet it's actually serious_scam. Dude likes to create drama.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 25, 2011, 10:26 pm
Mito's infoz zafe with meeee and never go to anyone, me likez mitto, Funny Mito, me gonna be nize to mito.  Mito does not have potty mouth so doze not needz to be punished.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: fisher on November 25, 2011, 11:03 pm
I know you think nothing will come of it, and for a local cop tipped about a man with a gun, you are right. the problem with having addresses posted on a drug forum is not about a local cop asking you questions, because local cops probably aren't investigating SR, but the DEA, FBI, and Homeland security ARE on this board. if that name/address combo has real orders coming to it, it is a problem regardless of all the posts saying not to worry about it. Homeland security doesn't just come to your door and ask about the reported man with a gun, they wiretap, gps track, and tail you if they want to. take a look at the ene case files on OVDB. He was flagged by a ups store employee for looking suspicious, and receiving mail from overseas. they noticed that he didn't want to touch anything in the store when he was in there. THAT is how Homeland security got involved. He is now going to be put away for a long time. You have to remember, LE wants to make a bust, ANY bust that shows they are taking SR down. their psyops ARE effective, even if you don't want to believe that they are.



I said all that to say this. scammers, if you post people's info on here, your scamming days will be numbered. you can't scam on SR unless people are using SR, so don't fucking do it. it is not funny.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: fisher on November 25, 2011, 11:28 pm
it is/was posted on ovdb from someone with a pacer login and is able to download court documents directly. they also posted the names of all the officers involved in the investigation.
All I am getting at is do not think for even a second that you know what is and isn't going to be investigated, or how far the US LE will take something. even if he only bought a single bean, if they think they can put out a press release stating that they are taking down SR (even if it is BS) and they can link their bust with info posted here, or anything from the market, they just might do it.
I don't want to make anyone paranoid, but you shouldn't be telling him to relax, and that nothing will happen, because you just don't know what the fuckwads persecuting drug users in the US are able to pass off as legitimate investigation and "scary drug kingpin bust" to the general public, and one bust linked to SR with ANY kind of proof will get them a bigger budget to work with to end this experiment for everyone else
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 27, 2011, 05:46 pm
awzzz you guyzz getting pizzed at little me?   purrrr purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  me lovez yer moneyzzzz so yummmyzzz!!!
Title: Put scams out of business before that start, take the ESCROW PLEDGE NOW!
Post by: Cgault on November 27, 2011, 06:32 pm
 take the ESCROW PLEDGE NOW!

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=6058.0
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on November 28, 2011, 12:39 am
So much money... actually gone... *breaks down crying*
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 28, 2011, 05:00 am
Cheap lessons, at least my lesson  - $80-100 something like that. Pledge Escrow now. NOW! Escrow NOW !!!! Always.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: AussieBeanz on November 28, 2011, 07:22 am
Ah crap did so much research and thought this guy could be trusted.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: venus on November 28, 2011, 01:21 pm
Cheap lessons, at least my lesson  - $80-100 something like that. Pledge Escrow now. NOW! Escrow NOW !!!! Always.

Leetle fishiez catchez the beeger fishiez.  Me likezzz eating za beeger fishiez!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Tryptamine on November 28, 2011, 06:27 pm
Cheap lessons, at least my lesson  - $80-100 something like that. Pledge Escrow now. NOW! Escrow NOW !!!! Always.

Leetle fishiez catchez the beeger fishiez.  Me likezzz eating za beeger fishiez!

So this means you're Sam?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 28, 2011, 07:01 pm
hey trypt - need chill pills !!!!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Tryptamine on November 29, 2011, 02:38 am
hey trypt - need chill pills !!!!

I'll have them for sale again within a few weeks, how many would you want?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 29, 2011, 03:29 pm
Panicking users.  Yes, that means you or anyone reading this. 

A good number of packages have been seized, including xpresspost packages, within the Canadian border by Canada Post or OTHER.  Now I do not want to create further panic but must let you all know that I have been laying low, meaning no illicit activity online.  This is why you have seen very little of me over the last week and have not been responding to emails etc.   I finally got up the nerve to use the local net Cafe to get online and contact you.   I am working on refunding those who have not seen their items, though it will not be a fast process because I am way too paranoid atm to do this from home.  SR has disabled my selling capabilities which is fine by me as I had already disabled the listings anyways and I assume will be re enabled once the ratings are changed by the buyers back to an appropriate rating based on the refunds they receive.  You must understand that this is not a safe game we are playing and there are far worse things that could happen to a vendor than getting a poor rating on SR.  I did what I did at the time for my own protection and will not apologize for that, but I will be helping those out who had their package seized by refunding them.  Please send me a PM telling me that you are missing a package even if you sent me one before today, but DO NOT message me over and over if you did not get a response right away, it may be a week before I get to your refund, it's not a fast process because it's all manual.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on November 29, 2011, 03:42 pm
People, watch and wait, and consider:

Sam is claiming a massive scoop of his mailings, and now wants people to contact him about refunds - ook?

before you jump and campaign for a 80$ or whatever recouping of this particular loss through Sam, I want every one with a missing package to consider the following:

1) How much did you lose, really.

2) He or whomsoever he is, already has one of your mailing identities. 

3) If this vendor is a "LE Harvester", those btc you may get from him will be followed via the block chain, and potentially, I repeat, potentially, could be used as evidence of on-line criminal activity. It's not easy, but .........

4) I will tell you what I am going to do, I am not contacting Sam for a refund or accepting any BTC from him.

5) I had sworn off cross border orders and got impatient, and see what happened.

6) One vendor, from say a higher risk country, say NL, who gets 91% of the their packs succesfully through the mail, and has a seizure here or there, spaced weeks or months apart is very different from a Vendor who has 20 or so orders scooped in a swoop. Therefore:

7) All of Sams buyers should clam up, change addresses, and forgo any further contact or the seeking of refunds from Sam.

I wish all of you the best and implore my friends here on SR to consider the above implications when a vendor states or it becomes apparent that more than 6 orders are cuaght in the customs web - what can happen, and what if this was an intentional harvesting operation.

Be safe. What says Mr. McDDro?   

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 29, 2011, 04:26 pm
The plot thickens.

I believe sam is playing games and mocking us.

His scam had been going on for a good time.   He had promised me and others a tracking number, which was never given.

Also, in his SR profile he stated very clearly that he doesn't use xpresspost because it is dangerous, as there's too much contact in a post office.

Yet he promises us that he's resending lost orders using xpresspost.

>> Sam,

how do you know the packages were intercepted by police?
Were you ever questioned or detained?



Goodbye Sam, and good luck.



NOTE:  Regardless of all this, we have to be secure and very extra careful when dealing with anyone here.   Even with trusted sellers.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 29, 2011, 07:05 pm
The plot thickens.

I believe sam is playing games and mocking us.

His scam had been going on for a good time.   He had promised me and others a tracking number, which was never given.

Also, in his SR profile he stated very clearly that he doesn't use xpresspost because it is dangerous, as there's too much contact in a post office.

Yet he promises us that he's resending lost orders using xpresspost.

>> Sam,

how do you know the packages were intercepted by police?
Were you ever questioned or detained?



Goodbye Sam, and good luck.



NOTE:  Regardless of all this, we have to be secure and very extra careful when dealing with anyone here.   Even with trusted sellers.

Take it as you will, I can't change that.

There has been questioning and detaining of several people.  An box was shown with about 30-40 individual quart size ziplock bags each containing an open envelope and individuals were asked if they knew where they came from or if they belong to them.  There were also xpresspost envelopes amongst them.  No idea if envelopes contained anything.  That's the most info that will be provided.  As for being careful, I agree that caution is ideal and if you see CGault's earlier post perhaps some or all of you will not want to get coin back.  Yes, because your right, I could be LE tracing the bitcoin chain back to you.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on November 29, 2011, 07:06 pm
Cheap lessons, at least my lesson  - $80-100 something like that. Pledge Escrow now. NOW! Escrow NOW !!!! Always.

Leetle fishiez catchez the beeger fishiez.  Me likezzz eating za beeger fishiez!

So this means you're Sam?

Who is venus to claim to be me? Fuck you.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 29, 2011, 08:15 pm
sam, PM me the tracking number please.

thanks.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 29, 2011, 08:19 pm
... and individuals were asked if they knew where they came from or if they belong to them. 

What individuals?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: rev on November 29, 2011, 08:55 pm
People, watch and wait, and consider:

Sam is claiming a massive scoop of his mailings, and now wants people to contact him about refunds - ook?

before you jump and campaign for a 80$ or whatever recouping of this particular loss through Sam, I want every one with a missing package to consider the following:

1) How much did you lose, really.

2) He or whomsoever he is, already has one of your mailing identities. 

3) If this vendor is a "LE Harvester", those btc you may get from him will be followed via the block chain, and potentially, I repeat, potentially, could be used as evidence of on-line criminal activity. It's not easy, but .........

4) I will tell you what I am going to do, I am not contacting Sam for a refund or accepting any BTC from him.

5) I had sworn off cross border orders and got impatient, and see what happened.

6) One vendor, from say a higher risk country, say NL, who gets 91% of the their packs succesfully through the mail, and has a seizure here or there, spaced weeks or months apart is very different from a Vendor who has 20 or so orders scooped in a swoop. Therefore:

7) All of Sams buyers should clam up, change addresses, and forgo any further contact or the seeking of refunds from Sam.

I wish all of you the best and implore my friends here on SR to consider the above implications when a vendor states or it becomes apparent that more than 6 orders are cuaght in the customs web - what can happen, and what if this was an intentional harvesting operation.

Be safe. What says Mr. McDDro?   

Unless you were buying kilos of goods from sam, what reason does LE have to go you, a small time buyer?

Someone showed someone a box full of envelopes, and that's all that will be provided? WTF? Sam has been unable to offer the details that will paint a clear picture to prove his innocence. Giving little vague clues sounds like palm reading -- bullshit.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: AussieBeanz on November 30, 2011, 02:00 pm
This is so shit, I was so keen for my sampler pack to arrive :(
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on November 30, 2011, 02:51 pm
Hi Sam,

Any updates?   I think I'll have my refund.   What's the next step?

Thanks.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lamf9808 on November 30, 2011, 05:46 pm
Hi Sam,

Any updates?   I think I'll have my refund.   What's the next step?

Thanks.

Sams account seems to be MIA.. did any one get a response from him for refunds or resent orders?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on December 01, 2011, 05:38 pm
Hi Sam,

I'm looking forward to my refund.

Thank you.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on December 01, 2011, 09:02 pm
As am I. It would be a miracle if he came through, I have my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on December 01, 2011, 09:33 pm
Sam, it'd be nice if you added 30% to the refund, just for all the hassle we've been through.

Cheers.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: serious_sam on December 01, 2011, 10:14 pm
Silk Road admin locked out my account, which means I have no record of who bought what so no more refunding is going to happen, nor do I have motivation to do so.  I had gotten through the first ten refunds out of 42, so 32 people are not getting refunds.  They had reduced the account to user level, but now it's completely locked out.  If they had not locked the account I would have continued my effort to refund.  Whatever, the serioussam name is no longer viable so I may as well throw in the towel and not waste my time on this any longer.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on December 01, 2011, 10:37 pm
Either a very serious sting occurred, no pun intended, and Sam is a victim of the trade, or something less savory, either way, its unfortunate - scammer or slammer - no good has come of it.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: rev on December 01, 2011, 11:12 pm
Did anybody who finalized early actually get a refund from him?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on December 02, 2011, 01:22 am
Silk Road admin locked out my account, which means I have no record of who bought what so no more refunding is going to happen, nor do I have motivation to do so.  I had gotten through the first ten refunds out of 42, so 32 people are not getting refunds.  They had reduced the account to user level, but now it's completely locked out.  If they had not locked the account I would have continued my effort to refund.  Whatever, the serioussam name is no longer viable so I may as well throw in the towel and not waste my time on this any longer.
Seriously?

I would bet that this is just you ducking out with the money, but if not then HOLD UP. Let the admin reactivate you or get you a list or something. I doubt that anyone was actually refunded as I immediately sent a message to both your forum and your SR account when you offered them. But come on, dude. I ordered 3g of 2C-B, remember? 150btc. I sent you all of this and an address to refund to in a PM a few days ago. If you were ever legit in any capacity, please refund me. I really, really need that money.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on December 02, 2011, 01:57 am
Silk Road admin locked out my account, which means I have no record of who bought what so no more refunding is going to happen, nor do I have motivation to do so.  I had gotten through the first ten refunds out of 42, so 32 people are not getting refunds.  They had reduced the account to user level, but now it's completely locked out.  If they had not locked the account I would have continued my effort to refund.  Whatever, the serioussam name is no longer viable so I may as well throw in the towel and not waste my time on this any longer.

It's ok, just transfer a few bitcoins to my account in SR, you don't need a seller account to do that.     You know my username.

Thanks!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: beezlebot on December 02, 2011, 02:48 am
yes you dont need a seller account to refund me either !
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: whoa on December 02, 2011, 06:16 am
i also dropped quite a few coin, and would hope there is some decency out there that will allow me to get reimbursed. i like to think positively...

if everything that has happened to SS is true, and he does in fact work to refund, then he would have a lot of strong supporters on his side post this mess.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Tryptamine on December 02, 2011, 05:23 pm
Well, that's a bitch. Why would the admin do that? Is the money still in the account?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Tryptamine on December 03, 2011, 05:40 pm
I guess that's the end of that, then. Lesson learned
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Cgault on December 03, 2011, 06:09 pm
Trypt: enough fooling around with Scammer threads, it's time to compound the supplements !!!!!! :)))))>>>>>>
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on December 03, 2011, 07:20 pm
Well, shit.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: rollztime on December 03, 2011, 07:30 pm
Serious_Sam I placed an order worth over 50btc with you and you even responded 9 days after you "sent" it saying it should be there any day. Then you didn't respond the next 2 times but your messages are all read. Whats the deal? If your so angry about all the stuff that happened please don't take it out on those of us who are trying to taste the product you have... That is if your NOT the scammer they all tell you to be. Send me my refund, hell I'll settle for 25btc (50%)!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on December 03, 2011, 08:23 pm
I'll settle for 80%, please transfer funds to my account ASAP.

Thanks!
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: bodhisattva on December 03, 2011, 09:00 pm
I'll settle for 80%, please transfer funds to my account ASAP.

Thanks!
Ditto.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Hanzelpie on December 04, 2011, 04:05 am
Just wanted to post my experience.

serious allowed me to keep within escrow after I talked to him about my concerns of people not receiving items. However, I did not receive the item. I was prompted by an automated message to finalize or initiate resolution process so I have initiated the resolution process. If I happen to receive the MDMA I will of course immediately finalize and then post here, and a followup post to detail the quality.

And if the resolution process results in me getting a refund -and- I end up receiving the item I will of course give the refund back to serioussam as should anyone else in the same situation.

If serious is truly not a scammer and is on a horrid streak of luck then that truly sucks and he has my condolences. During our communication he seemed like a good enough guy.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: mito on December 04, 2011, 04:09 am
^^^ When did you place the order with him? 

Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: Hanzelpie on December 04, 2011, 05:58 am
The 23rd. It was my first order here. At the time he had a score of 100. I came close to finalizing until I read the forums. Should I have not have initiated resolution yet or..?
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: lolwut101 on December 04, 2011, 11:47 pm
I ordered 1 gram of MDMA from serioussam, and another one from freedompeople (i think) at the same time about 2 - 2 1/2 weeks ago. Serioussam said that since I was international (he being in canada, me in america and freedompeople in europe) I needed to finalize immediately, which I did based on his rep. The gram from freedompeople arrived in like 4 days (which was fucking great, btw. I highly recommend ordering from him), and the gram from serioussam still has yet to arrive.

I messaged him 4 days ago, to no avail. I'm now going with the assumption that I'm out about ฿13 and a much needed gram (since the winter break is coming up and a bunch of shows are scheduled for my area). While it sucks that this happened, and now I need to scramble to get another gram ASAP, in the long run ฿13 isn't an outrageous loss. And honestly, due to what his reputation was, I'm really hesitant to assume that he would just do an about face and turn to scamming. If he was somehow compromised due to legal pressure, then he truly has my condolences and I hope nothing terrible befalls him. If not, then shame on him.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: MB80 on December 12, 2011, 10:51 pm
He's a drug dealer.  You can't expect a person running an illegal business to be honest.  Honest people don't break the law.  I personally don't agree with the law, but you really can't be surprised that this happened.  Further, why would you trust someone you've never met & is doing something illegal, based solely on the opinions of people you've never met.  Never finalize early.  Remember, drug dealers make their money by selling drugs.  If you don't buy, they don't eat.  Don't give them the opportunity to make it easier for them, they need your money -either by selling or by stealing.  I learned this lesson 19 years ago, the first time I tried to buy pot.  I pulled out my money, handed it to the guy with pot on the corner & he ran off with out giving me any weed.  I was 12 then, you all are most likely older now & should know better.
Title: Re: serioussam mdma review
Post by: tryptatronics on December 30, 2011, 11:00 pm
Yeah, I finalized early too, since I live in Europe. And I did that based on his rep.
Ordered end of November, finalized a few days after. Sent him several messages. Looks like he split with our money.

$250 down the drain.

You learn as long as you live, I suppose ;)