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Title: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: pinky2011 on September 20, 2012, 12:29 pm
http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/19/illinois-cops-give-family-ten-minutes-be

idk what to think.... definitely sticking to personal use and I will NEVER have my stash on me or any place I reside.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: Chapman on September 20, 2012, 12:52 pm
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A package was delivered, it was about 18 inches by 18 inches 22 to 24 inches tall, by a postal inspector and was accepted outside the open garage by Brown’s son-in-law, Wilmer Aries, 28, who is married to his daughter Ericka, 23, who also live in the home.

Aries brought the package, with a name of someone who did not live there, inside the house and placed it inside the front door in the foyer. It was never opened, according to Brown.
The package was accepted from a postal inspector and brought inside the house. Signed for or not, that makes the warrant valid.
Don't answer the door or sign for anything, and you'll be fine, though the mongrels in faggoty costumes will surely be sore at you for not getting to terrorize your home.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on September 20, 2012, 12:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=no+knock+gil+scott+heron

No Knock, to be slipped into John Mitchell's suggestion box


Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: sourman on September 20, 2012, 04:27 pm
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Watching the officers fist bump and high-five each other as they tracked broken glass from the front door through the house

And these cocksucking adrenaline junkies will hide behind shit like "doing the right thing" and the law when they're just playing rambo at the expense of largely innocent people who will never be the same after being violated like that. It wouldn't surprise me if, one day, we hear about the same unprofessional condom fodder breaking into a house filled with mustard gas and black recluse spiders.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: blowdrobro on September 21, 2012, 12:32 am
That's wild, is there anymore info on this?
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: b0lixtrader on September 21, 2012, 01:31 am
What a bunch of scum bags.  Cops nowadays will do this kind of shit and not even apologize for the damages!?

That is ridiculous and unacceptable.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: johnmtl on September 21, 2012, 01:46 am
Whats the moral of the story guys??

Its NEVER have packages sent to your house... always use a clean house with occupants who are drug free and and not in any legal troubles..

By doing this It may take a few more days to get your package but its worth it.. I did not read about anyone being charged with anything yet and I bet a shit lawyer could beat a case like this a day after having his tonsils taken out...

Pure crap these cops... kicking in doors for some weed....not charging anyone and really just looking real stupid once again..

SO to recap..

send to a clean house.. once arrived have someone mark it return to sender and let it sit for a few days...

if you stick to this you shouldn't  have any issues with juice monkey cops kicking in your door!

Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: spacecase #2 on September 21, 2012, 01:55 am
Whats the moral of the story guys??

Its NEVER have packages sent to your house... always use a clean house with occupants who are drug free and and not in any legal troubles..

By doing this It may take a few more days to get your package but its worth it.. I did not read about anyone being charged with anything yet and I bet a shit lawyer could beat a case like this a day after having his tonsils taken out...

Pure crap these cops... kicking in doors for some weed....not charging anyone and really just looking real stupid once again..

SO to recap..

send to a clean house.. once arrived have someone mark it return to sender and let it sit for a few days...

if you stick to this you shouldn't  have any issues with juice monkey cops kicking in your door!

LOL, if everyone did this vendors would have a shit fit. Who finalizes without inspecting their package first? Waiting a few extra days could be a big deal...
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: Joosy on September 21, 2012, 07:16 am
^ Same thing happening here in Australia. In one of our states even our 'right to remain silent' has been proposed to be changed, the problem is most of the Australian community is so apathetic that it will go through with minor backlash from the community.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: kmfkewm on September 21, 2012, 07:39 am
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Watching the officers fist bump and high-five each other as they tracked broken glass from the front door through the house

And these cocksucking adrenaline junkies will hide behind shit like "doing the right thing" and the law when they're just playing rambo at the expense of largely innocent people who will never be the same after being violated like that. It wouldn't surprise me if, one day, we hear about the same unprofessional condom fodder breaking into a house filled with mustard gas and black recluse spiders.

Just keep faith that someday they will be lined up against walls and shot.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: kmfkewm on September 21, 2012, 07:50 am
This story, like the one about the mayor in Maryland getting raided and having his dogs shot, is just another in a long line of stories that illustrate how America is becoming a police state. Little by little, we're getting there. The most disturbing thing is how the law tends to side with the cops, almost without exception. You can find (very disturbing) YouTube videos of home raids -- people, children, pets getting shot -- the cops finding nothing, and nobody gets punished. I say "almost" because the Maryland mayor story is a rare exception. He sued and got restitution, but only because he was a well-known, well-respected member of the community. If you're an average citizen, you have no recourse. There is no presumption of innocense. The presumption is that LE did the right thing, even though we have innumerable examples where they didn't. Fuck LE.

What is a police state? Intelligence agencies monitor all of our electronic communications. Paramilitary troops storm our homes searching for substances that are banned solely for the profit of the prison industrial complex. We can't walk down the street without being stopped by police and harassed. Huge amounts of the fruits of your own labors are forcefully taken from you and handed to the state. Everything is regulated. The laws are such that your sentence is entirely at the mercy of the system, simply getting an order of marijuana can be charged anywhere from a low level crime to participation in a conspiracy with a thousand additional charges. Huge amounts of people are paid or coerced into becoming secret government informants. The mainstream media is owned by the political establishment, simply look at what Wikileaks has done versus what Fox or CNN have done. Propaganda surrounds us from the media, the schools, everywhere government sponsored propaganda is blasted at us. They track us by our cell phones, by our license plates, by huge networks of secret CCTV cameras and facial/gait/eye/remote fingerprint recognition technologies. People are arrested for simple things like possession of marijuana and sent off to indoctrination camps or locked in cells for years. Then they are released and monitored closely by parole officers. Our religious rights are trampled, the constitution says that the state shall not respect one religion over another, so why can some religious faiths use Peyote, some DMT? Why can Christians go worship God at church but we can not experience God through LSD or other psychedelics? U.S.A is a police state and honestly the people responsible must die. There is no victory for us until the people who have created this mess have severe damage done against them. A lot of people need to die, and I hope that I get to live to see the day. I hope I live to see the day that these scumbag federal agent slave traffickers are fucking gassed.  I hope I get to see the day that all of the politicians selling us into slavery for the profit of the prison industrial complex get executed by firing squads.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: robertbennet420 on September 21, 2012, 10:23 am
Whats the moral of the story guys??

Its NEVER have packages sent to your house... always use a clean house with occupants who are drug free and and not in any legal troubles..

By doing this It may take a few more days to get your package but its worth it.. I did not read about anyone being charged with anything yet and I bet a shit lawyer could beat a case like this a day after having his tonsils taken out...

Pure crap these cops... kicking in doors for some weed....not charging anyone and really just looking real stupid once again..

SO to recap..

send to a clean house.. once arrived have someone mark it return to sender and let it sit for a few days...

if you stick to this you shouldn't  have any issues with juice monkey cops kicking in your door!

LOL, if everyone did this vendors would have a shit fit. Who finalizes without inspecting their package first? Waiting a few extra days could be a big deal...

please dont take any advice for johnmtl. He is not very bright at all and anyone that orders from him did not do their homework. First of all, I know exactly what CITY you live in from your name, second you probably think I have something against you because I am always negative towards your responses. You thought using a fucking corriour like fedex is safer than using the postal system and could not even understand the concept of sending a letter anonymously. How the fuck do you not know that all you need to do is buy envelopes and stamps at a fucking drug store, it doesn;t even matter if u pay cash or not because regular plain envelopes and stamps are not traceable. Then you package it and drop it in a fucking mailbox. This dude tried telling me its impossible to send a letter without being on camera. My fucking mother sends bill payments everyday and she doesnt need to go into a post office and be on camera. Your advice about ordering to a clean house is also stupid. Where the fuck are u gonna find someone that is not at all involved in the drug scene to let u import drugs to their house? Cops aren't stupid. they know the "return to sender" tricck. Once you take possesion of the package they can bust u. end of story. Please stop acting like your some fucking gangster that knows everything about this game because I personally know for a fact u dont have a clue. Your probably fucking 16 man....
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: kmfkewm on September 21, 2012, 10:29 am
You type like a 14 year old
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: anex45 on September 21, 2012, 11:06 am
Whats the moral of the story guys??

Its NEVER have packages sent to your house... always use a clean house with occupants who are drug free and and not in any legal troubles..

By doing this It may take a few more days to get your package but its worth it.. I did not read about anyone being charged with anything yet and I bet a shit lawyer could beat a case like this a day after having his tonsils taken out...

Pure crap these cops... kicking in doors for some weed....not charging anyone and really just looking real stupid once again..

SO to recap..

send to a clean house.. once arrived have someone mark it return to sender and let it sit for a few days...

if you stick to this you shouldn't  have any issues with juice monkey cops kicking in your door!

Sorry, I respect your opinion but I disagree with this. I take responsibility for my own actions and I would never put someone in harms way for my own actions. I've been in this game long enough to know the consequences and own up to them anytime I'm arrested for them. I'm not to worried about getting busted for personal amounts of drugs, you spend some time locked up and you move on...that's the nature of it and if you can't do the time don't do the crime. It's pretty simple, if you don't want to ever get busted or have to worry about what-ifs, just don't buy or sell drugs. I couldn't live with myself knowing I was having shipments of drugs that were for me mailed to someone's house that doesn't do drugs...and even if they did do drugs I still wouldn't have them mailed there.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: mito on September 21, 2012, 11:13 am
fucking pigs.

they're time is gonna come.
Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: johnmtl on September 21, 2012, 07:14 pm
Whats the moral of the story guys??

Its NEVER have packages sent to your house... always use a clean house with occupants who are drug free and and not in any legal troubles..

By doing this It may take a few more days to get your package but its worth it.. I did not read about anyone being charged with anything yet and I bet a shit lawyer could beat a case like this a day after having his tonsils taken out...

Pure crap these cops... kicking in doors for some weed....not charging anyone and really just looking real stupid once again..

SO to recap..

send to a clean house.. once arrived have someone mark it return to sender and let it sit for a few days...

if you stick to this you shouldn't  have any issues with juice monkey cops kicking in your door!

Sorry, I respect your opinion but I disagree with this. I take responsibility for my own actions and I would never put someone in harms way for my own actions. I've been in this game long enough to know the consequences and own up to them anytime I'm arrested for them. I'm not to worried about getting busted for personal amounts of drugs, you spend some time locked up and you move on...that's the nature of it and if you can't do the time don't do the crime. It's pretty simple, if you don't want to ever get busted or have to worry about what-ifs, just don't buy or sell drugs. I couldn't live with myself knowing I was having shipments of drugs that were for me mailed to someone's house that doesn't do drugs...and even if they did do drugs I still wouldn't have them mailed there.

Heyhey No worries, everyone is entitled to have there own opinion.. that's what makes this world such a great/shitty place.

I'm just saying, In my case I'd rather have something go to a friend of the family who is clean and does not use, I hear your point about doing the crime do the time and all, but for real..( none of my "fall guys" would spend more then 1 hour being detained) Personally I'd love to see the cops break down the door of one of my receiving addresses.. Not only would they find nothing but a package addressed to no one who lives there marked return to sender and a big fat lawsuit!

My lawyer is knows as "The Animal"  due to multiple successful lawsuits against the police force in my area for a total payout of over $2 million...

That almost makes me want to kinda fuck with the cops and have them kick in a door or two of my peoples...

:)

Anwway, Like I said before we are all entitled to our own opinions but in my case because of previous criminal issues doing the crime (using or receiving some drugs via the mail) is not going to be worth doing the time and as such I need to have "fall guys"

None of which are in blind to whats going on. I would never send something somewhere unannounced!!!



Title: Re: **Clearnet** LE knocking down doors, also proof they don't need a signature
Post by: johnmtl on September 21, 2012, 07:39 pm
Whats the moral of the story guys??

Its NEVER have packages sent to your house... always use a clean house with occupants who are drug free and and not in any legal troubles..

By doing this It may take a few more days to get your package but its worth it.. I did not read about anyone being charged with anything yet and I bet a shit lawyer could beat a case like this a day after having his tonsils taken out...

Pure crap these cops... kicking in doors for some weed....not charging anyone and really just looking real stupid once again..

SO to recap..

send to a clean house.. once arrived have someone mark it return to sender and let it sit for a few days...

if you stick to this you shouldn't  have any issues with juice monkey cops kicking in your door!

LOL, if everyone did this vendors would have a shit fit. Who finalizes without inspecting their package first? Waiting a few extra days could be a big deal...

please dont take any advice for johnmtl. He is not very bright at all and anyone that orders from him did not do their homework. First of all, I know exactly what CITY you live in from your name, second you probably think I have something against you because I am always negative towards your responses. You thought using a fucking corriour like fedex is safer than using the postal system and could not even understand the concept of sending a letter anonymously. How the fuck do you not know that all you need to do is buy envelopes and stamps at a fucking drug store, it doesn;t even matter if u pay cash or not because regular plain envelopes and stamps are not traceable. Then you package it and drop it in a fucking mailbox. This dude tried telling me its impossible to send a letter without being on camera. My fucking mother sends bill payments everyday and she doesnt need to go into a post office and be on camera. Your advice about ordering to a clean house is also stupid. Where the fuck are u gonna find someone that is not at all involved in the drug scene to let u import drugs to their house? Cops aren't stupid. they know the "return to sender" tricck. Once you take possesion of the package they can bust u. end of story. Please stop acting like your some fucking gangster that knows everything about this game because I personally know for a fact u dont have a clue. Your probably fucking 16 man....

PLEASE DONT TAKE ANY ADVISE FROM JOHNMTL??????

Who the fuck are you to tell people who to take advise from?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Let me set a few things straight Mr. Bennet.

First I am not a Gangster, nor do I ever claim to be, Second, who the fuck cares if I have MTL in my name,.. wtf.. I',m from montreal and and not trying to hide that and that is my prerogative.... You think you are so high and mighty because i asked you about prepaid tracked envelopes and excuse me if I did not know they existed and that I could drop them in a mailbox....I was not asking you about regular mail as I am not an idiot and know how regular mail works... The reason I never knew about these prepaid envelopes  isunlike you and your small packages that you send.. I for many years have been sending over 5-10 pounds of weed around Canada and as such I cant just drop that shit in a fucking mailbox, I'm not no petty little thug and I'm sure i have made it farther in my life by the time I was 28 then you will ever reach my friend.. As for using a courier to ship large amounts... I'd still chose them over CP or USPS any day... I'll have you know fedex and ups are the two largest movers of drugs in canada and the states by far!!!!

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.. Where am i gonna find a clean person who would do such a favor for little gangster johnMTL????

My friend I am not new to life, I have made many contacts over the years I have a big family and lots of friends, the majority of them are not criminal nor do any drugs and would never have a problem with me sending something to there address.

Maybe this is because I am a straight forward person, I don't lie, and I try to come off as transparent as I can in all aspects of my life.

You dont know me, you wont ever know me, you will always be striving to attain the things in life that I have already attained. you are a little fish in a big sea, I'm not the biggest fish, But I sure as hell are a bigger one then you my friend, I am not a fool, I have lived a life most people can only imagine about.

So do me a favor, you want to disagree that is awesome and I welcome further discussions between you and I in the future but by no means EVER tell anyone here who to listen to, You are not the "all knowing Cicero", God, Or anyone important really so to recap..

DONT DRAG MY NAME IN THE MUD BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHO I AM!!

until next time my friend...

Yours truly

Montreal John

 :)


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