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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: thekid on April 10, 2013, 07:05 am
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what would be the best oral cycle? anyone have any opinion on that or know anything about them ive been searching on the weba and only came up with dbol and test. any have anything else?
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what would be the best oral cycle? anyone have any opinion on that or know anything about them ive been searching on the weba and only came up with dbol and test. any have anything else?
As far as I know, dbols are the most popular oral steroid.
Are you going to just take oral steroids or are you going to inject as well?
I've heard a lot of people say oral steroids by themselves are almost a waste of time and money, you should be using them to enhance the IM'd steroid. Not to mention the oral steroids can cause your liver hell if not properly planned.
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dont really want to inject them. would rather do oral. i was reading about the dbol and also was thinking to do dbol with the test gel. but dont really know a good cycle to do them with.
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If your not going to pin, save your self the extra trouble and just go with prohormone/designer steroids so it's legal.
D-bol also aromatizes so you will need an AI on hand if you don't want gyno. It is also very wet and you will get a lot of water retention that will make you look bloated. You will lose a lot of that weight after you go in to PCT(Post Cycle Therapy) which is to reboot your balls to start working again and create natural testosterone.
If I were you I would go with the legal alternatives such as Epistane, Superdrol, Dymetazine, Methylsten, MLMG, Trendione,Halo, etc My personal favorite is Epistane. Insane strength, lean mass, mood uplift/euphoria, just all the good stuff.
Orals are methylated which are harsh on your liver. Well some are extra harsh and some are ok within reasonable dosages and time. It may also or may not raise your blood pressure so you will have to buy something called cycle assist or similar products to that. Take it through out cycle and PCT. You will also need a drug called Nolvadex or Clomid for PCT. I like to use Nolvadex which you can find on SR or just search for Research chemical tamoxifen.
A example cycle of Epistane of 6 weeks would be:
40/40/40/40/40/40mg
PCT of nolva after 6 weeks of Epistane for 4 weeks:
20/20/10/10mg
RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH. Go on steroid/PH forums and research. Without proper knowledge you will have a hard time maintaining gains and the cycle will not be as enjoyable as it could have been if you were prepared. Obviously I hope your training and diet are spot on and your not like 130lbs.
Good luck and message me for any questions.
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im about 145-150 and short but built. and 21.
so if i did the cycle you said i would get the same results as dbol? or somewhere close. i dont really want to pin becase then everyone would know i did. with growing so fast.
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If you're using orals that pack on mass fast and you're doing it right, it'll be obvious that you are on something. It'll be like gaining 5-10lbs in the first 2-3 weeks and possibly in total 15-20lbs for first cycles easily.
Epistane doesn't cause bloat and and it won't pack on as much mass as dbol but it an amazing compound. I gained 17lbs on an all out bulk but Epi kept me LEAN and I trained VERY hard.
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so if i did dbol what should i take it with so i dont go into tottal bitch mode
and what would be a good mix cycle for epistane cycle? i would like to put on some weight and have more chunky lags and also bigger chest than now.
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This will not end well
Edit: All good advice @b0lixtrader
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This will not end well
Why whats your opinion on this to make you say that now?
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so if i did dbol what should i take it with so i dont go into tottal bitch mode
and what would be a good mix cycle for epistane cycle? i would like to put on some weight and have more chunky lags and also bigger chest than now.
What do you mean total bitch mode?
Mix cycle? Do you mean stacking? Bro, just because I said epistane doesn't pack on as much mass doesn't mean you won't get any at all. I was simply comparing it to dbol, which you said you didn't want it to be obvious that you were on something so epistane is definitely the better choice. Epistane is all that you will need for your first cycle.
thanks Barbijuana
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like if i take dbol, getting to much estrogen i think i was reading earlier and i would have to take test to bring it back up?
just trying to see what would be better to stack good muscle on.
sorry newb here for steroids was reading them last night on the forums and only thing you really get is SR members saying just pin it or your a pussy and everyone not agreeing on a good cycle so i thought to come here and ask for a opinion and help is greatly appreciated! and thank you for helping me so far dont mean to be a pain in the ass with these questions..
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More estrogen doesn't make you a bitch. You are past puberty so it won't turn you in to a woman.
The problem with high estrogen is easier fat gain and the worse of all being estrogen binding to the estrogen receptors in the chest around the nipples causing breast tissue growth. This breast tissue growth is called gyno.
You don't take testosterone to compensate for higher estrogen, it doesn't work like that. More testosterone mostly equals MORE estrogen. Your body can only do so much exogenous testosterone so your body converts it in to estrogen hence the term aromatization. Testosterone(AAS) when pinned or taken will aromatize to estrogen to a certain degree. Testosterone derived steroids like Dbol also aromatize to estrogen.
What you need is an AI( Aromatise Inhibitor) What this does it binds to the estrogen in the body and destroys it. But an AI on cycle with compounds that do not aromatize isn't necessary unless you are getting gyno symptoms. This is because a good level of estrogen plays a big role in the male body for hormone production and helps build muscle. A good AI is aromasin aka exemestane. You can also find these as an research chemical for pretty cheap online.
You can take 10-12mg every other day on cycle. Also if you happen to get very puffy nipples, hard sensitive and painful lump under your nipples, follow this protocol.
Take the Aromasin at 25mg along with 10mg of Nolva until the symptoms disappear. Which should only be a few days. The nolva will block the estrogen receptors from binding and causing the tissue growth while the aromasin destroys the estrogen. However, it is totally normal for your nipples to get puffy and a bit sensitive on cycle. When taking anything hormonal this is 90% normal. It is when it starts getting extremely itch, burning, and hard painful lump starts forming it is a good sign to start following the protocol.
Go to Prohormoneforum.com(CLEARNET) or leankbulk.com(CLEARNET) and start learning. Those guys are nice and helpful.
What I told you are the basics. You will need to read and research and see how different people react so you can see how to deal with it better.