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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: herkinoror on March 15, 2013, 07:05 am

Title: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: herkinoror on March 15, 2013, 07:05 am
So I know there have got to be some other people out there like myself that get queer reactions to drugs.  Let us share and discuss till 50 posts! :)

I personally am what the Shulgins termed a "hard head" much to my chagrin and befuddlement.  I need sometimes signifigantly more of whatever substance we are consuming then the people I am with to get to a similar level of effects.  For instance;  with hatter26s BTH cold shoot most of my cohorts got their rocks off at between 10 - 15mls of the stuff whereas the bottom of my "I'm defenitley pleasantly high curve" started at 20mls and extended all the way up to thirty for a good hard nod.  This is with no tolerance mind you.  And I love 2C-E.  It's one of my favourite substances.  I've got a pre-illegalization Gram sitting around for going to shows and for combining with other substances.  But I pack my caps fat. Typically between 25 - 30mgs.  When I give these to other people they lose their shit.  Now with psychedelics in general, specifically phenethylamines, I get the same sort of reaction.  I feel the threshold at the same level as everyone else; I had a VERY fun trip on just 7 mgs of 2C-I and again on 15 mgs however I vary rarely experience strong visuals.  Shrooms though.  They seem to get me though.  I assume all of this however has to do/come from my child hood and my (probably) odd neurochemistry and phisiology.  I'm a type one Diabetic, have been since the age of 2 and I'm apperently an ADHD kid.  Thusly on top of the insulin I was prescribed all the powerful ADHD stimulants since ealry childhood.  I think I may have been given Desoxyn one time.  But I digress.

I also don't seem to "get" the same feeling most people get from some of the most popular drugs.  I often wonder if this is just my personal taste or if it hearkens back to my body/brain.  I don't much like the effects of Booze,  I used to like weed a little but now I just get really paranoid and loopy from a small amount and I seem to be sensitive to both of these in stark opposition to many other substances.  The couple times I've gotten my hands on pure MDMA I have not liked it much at all even though I do love other  drugs like it (Mephedrone, Methylone, Butylone, Meth, and Amphetamine are all great).  When I finally got a full dose all I wanted to do was Zen out.  I didn't want to think, breathe, experience, or be.  I wanted to not.  And I certainly did not want to get up and dance, or talk to , or hug my friends.  I have however had experiences like those which are from what I understand typical of MDMA on Mephedrone, and felt the awe and raptre of exploring a fresh new world while playing portal 2 on Methylone. 

So what gives?  Do any of ya'll out there have similar stories to share?  POSTPOSTPOST!!! ;D
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: elmo00 on March 15, 2013, 07:19 am
I have the ADD's, and whenever I do psychedelics my attention space becomes that of a pine cone. Nbomes have made me feel as a thought burrows out of my current line of thinking over and over and over until I have finished tripping. LSD give me panic attacks, shrooms have been hit or miss either causing me to panic / black out or experience a blissful self-actualization, mdma causes me to want the sex pretty badly, and amphetamines are boring (yet useful).

My DoC is ketamine since it helps me treat depression, but I feel  like I am in a different dimension where I can view reality as an interconnected mess whereas my friends feel like they are traveling through time and space while on it.


Oh I fucking hate smoking pot. I just dissociate and become paranoid after one hit from a joint. Edibles are a very different high most of the time.

ps I accidentally got sent 4-mec from a vendor and thought it was pretty dull. It was like a retarded/light MDMA body high coupled with impaired thinking.
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: herkinoror on March 15, 2013, 07:22 am
You see I'm all kinds of hyper but I can never be sure if I really have a neurochemistry issue.  Nothing quite that intense happens to me on drugs, nothing like you describe anyways.  My problem is the experience is below expectation.  Do you figure why your trips are so crazy is because of the ADDs?
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: mysteryman on March 15, 2013, 07:25 am
It may sound weird but I like tripping by myself. Its the most calm, unquestionable environment.
I suggest to try it..
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: elmo00 on March 15, 2013, 07:33 am
Your body may just have a naturally high tolerance to some substances. I think my neurochemistry is definitely a factor for why my psychedelic trips tend to suck. No attention span, the inability to remember what I was thinking/talking about after 3 seconds, and the confusion is due to either ADD or some misc. neurological issue.

I have done a lot of DPH as a teenage in order to retard myself, and sadly I think it worked.
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: herkinoror on March 15, 2013, 07:57 am
to elmo00:  You tried to retard yourself?  May I ask why? And I didn't think you could have a tolerance to just some substances. Or a natural tolerance at all.  Is that a thing?

to mysteryman:  I haven't done it a lot but tripping by yourself is really awesmoe.  A great tool for self exploration!  Or even just being away from your group for a small part of the trip.  But I also enjoy tripping wit my friends a) for the company in a wierd situation and in case of ANY problem b) for the bonding experience and c)in the hopes of the ellusive shared experience/delusion.
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: AlteredConscious on March 15, 2013, 08:06 am
My odd reaction to anything I take for the first time is that something tells me that life is fake and I am going back where I came from. That really makes me scared for when I die. Salvia was the most frightening, but weed did the same thing to me when I was a teen.
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: mysteryman on March 15, 2013, 08:12 am
Once when I did salvia I saw what I was going to do ahead of time and no matter what I did I synced up to what I saw, like I had already made the choice to do so and now I just have to experience why..

At least thats what I got out of it
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: AlteredConscious on March 15, 2013, 08:19 am
Ya man I feel like every time I have dejavu its what I saw on Salvia. Salvia is some crazy shit. I'm too scared to try it again, so its just been sitting in a bag since 2010.
Title: Re: Your odd reaction to drugs
Post by: mysteryman on March 15, 2013, 08:22 am
I've smoked dmt on the freeway on the way to a sts9 show, that was INSANE

passenger seat of course