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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: spacewasp on December 15, 2011, 01:21 am
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I kind of want to get the cheapest one possible, but I'm wondering if its sketchy to have to pick up your packages from the desk. Should I drop the money on a bigger box so that packages can fit?
I just want to buy personal amounts of cannabis oil, so I'm guessing that an 11 X 5.5 inch box would be plenty, but thats much more money than the smallest box (3 X 5.5).
Thoughts?
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I would recommend against getting a PO box at all. I would send it to a safe address that is not your own.
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I would recommend against getting a PO box at all. I would send it to a safe address that is not your own.
Well I don't know anyone who would receive illegal drugs for me at their house, I work from home, there are no private mailbox rentals in my town (and i have no car, only an electric scooter), and my significant other told me I can't have it shipped to our home so.....PO Box it is. I've been reading these forums for a couple days now and it seems like lots of people use PO boxes with no problems. Why do you recommend against it?
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Because you have to establish identity in order to set up a P.O. box. It's kind of weird to only receive drugs at a P.O. box. You can't turn away a package at a P.O. box. You have to go in and show I.D. to check P.O. box (not true everywhere)
The idea is to have the product blend in with your normal mail.
If you do have to use a P.O. box, be sure to use your real name. Nothing's more incriminating than setting up a P.O. box with a fake name/identity.
I'll let everyone else be more specifically helpful. I really don't know about the dimensions portion.
I will tell you that I receive most large (as in size) orders in a flat rate box or a standard padded envelope. So I suppose you could get a box that will fit one.
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at my local post office, you definitely don't need to show ID or interact with anyone to check your box. I was figuring I would just start getting catalogs and amazon packages there to make my goodies blend in. Also, its the holidays so I imagine it wouldn't be that crazy for someone to get packages to a po box right away. I'm thinking it would only be sketchy if I have to look a government employee in the face every time I get my prescription refilled
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spacewasp, Im in a similar situation... PO Box was the only viable option. I've had success with it. Even the smallest PO Box they had more than accommodates an 8th of weed, including packaging (could probably fit 4x that much in there). I registered it under a company name to look less suspicious (it's been mentioned by a PO employee that packages to a company name are less suspicious than those to an individual).
As always, if you keep your order quantities low, even if they did intercept it, you'll likely just get a love letter, not get arrested. And of course there is always the deniability. You didnt request this package. You have no idea who the sender is. There must be some mistake.
Also, forget the catalogs. A PO employee on here has mentioned that bulk/junk mail goes through an entirely different route to your box. A good alternative smoke screen would be buying super-cheap & small trinkets on ebay to your box.
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The biggest one.
But your safer at your house, P.O box is stupid.
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The biggest one.
But your safer at your house, P.O box is stupid.
Actually the SR Buyers guide itself recommends you dont have them shipped to wherever they will be stored (ie. your home). A PO box may not be the best option, but it's definitely better than your home. I'd much rather have the comfort of driving up to the PO and seeing there is no cop cars anywhere and knowing they cant detain me at the PO... than to constantly worry about a cop knocking on my house door.
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Yea, PO Box works very well for me. I would recommend it; I went with the medium-sized one, but I wouldn't be too concerned no matter what.
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(it's been mentioned by a PO employee that packages to a company name are less suspicious than those to an individual).
I don't get this, and kind of think this line of thinking is just a result of paranoia. Think about the volume of packages that go through the postal system - I read somewhere that the USPS moves 54 million priority packages a year, which comes out to around 150,000 a day (note that is just priority, not first class, which I believe is somewhere in the billions). The USPS could not possibly be suspicious of a single package, and they don't have the time or resources to inspect every single one. Also think about the millions and millions of reasons a person would have for receiving a package.
I just don't see how an individual receiving a package, either from a business or another individual, could arouse suspicion. That's what the postal service is for - sending and receiving packages. Unless the package very obviously contains drugs, what is suspicious about using the USPS for its intended purpose?
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The biggest one.
But your safer at your house, P.O box is stupid.
Actually the SR Buyers guide itself recommends you dont have them shipped to wherever they will be stored (ie. your home). A PO box may not be the best option, but it's definitely better than your home. I'd much rather have the comfort of driving up to the PO and seeing there is no cop cars anywhere and knowing they cant detain me at the PO... than to constantly worry about a cop knocking on my house door.
At your house you can deny asking for the package. If you have a P.O box and you pick up the package you lose plausible deniability or whatever the word is.
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I guess I'll add my bit of made up knowledge here.If your P.O. has the option, they can leave you a key for large packages, and stick it in a large box for you rather than keeping behind the counter.
Home address gives them a chance for controlled delivery and easier surveillance of mail retrieval. Packages that bounce back are partially comprised of discovered packages addressed to Post Office addresses. When residentialy addressed packages are discovered,they rarely bounce back... I've seen one bust at a P.O., and it was from smelly weed that was shipped in a cardboard box, in a ziplock bag, smothered in an aromatic mask of some sort. It got beat up and of course, discovered. No one can be that dumb and expect not to get trouble,but the dummy did it like that for over a dozen years before incident, no joke.
How many of your packages have been searched before? Give them no reason, and they will have no reason. Thats just as much the vendors responsibility as yours though. Domestic mail typically doesnt get randomly searched, but one red flag is a po box that gets express/2day,etc packages on a regular basis. Thats the most ignored red flag their is. I cant believe almost every vendor offers express shipping. Those are mainly the only packages they even look at.
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PMB > P.O. Box
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And why is that MsFauxy? Because PMB goes through more hands, sits an extra night in the post office, and only comes once a day?
Even though I make up everything I say, I at least explain valid points to my argument.
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I've been thinking a lot about this too. One other consideration that comes to mind is this: If you are the target of a controlled delivery, and you get nabbed, they're likely to seize computers and possibly other items in the house as evidence. Whereas, with a PO Box, that's not going to happen. And, while a stakeout is a possibility, as others have pointed out, it's a lot less likely than a controlled delivery would be.
I don't see any advantage to denying that you requested a package to your house over denying that you requested a package to the PO Box. Either way, your only argument is "I'm being setup. I didn't request this."
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/\ thats pretty much it. The search warrant issue doesnt matter, most judges will sign them with allowance for searches of:
Residence
All persons at residence
Locations where occupants of residence are know to receive mail
Vehicle in name of anyone known to stay at residence
Any vehicle on property or adjacent to property of residence
Any small secondary permanent structure on property of residence
Any small secondary temporary structure on property of residence
Workplace of suspected offender (in some situations)
If you think about it, someone known to sell drugs at a park doesnt get a park search warrant.. they get a property search warrant.
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And why is that MsFauxy? Because PMB goes through more hands, sits an extra night in the post office, and only comes once a day?
Even though I make up everything I say, I at least explain valid points to my argument.
I do international mail only. PMBs look like a business address and you can put a business name on them.
I got a shit ton of mail from China.
Also the people at the UPS store are 18 year kids and not Postal Workers who actually give a shit.