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Title: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: gmemo on March 19, 2012, 07:57 pm
Well I recently opened a P.O. BOX and I made a purchase on SR. I gave my address and I used a fake name. I never received the package and now I don't know if I should use the same address with real name or just use another one with my real name. What is the best way to receive mail from SR and stay Anonymous? 
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: toker420 on March 19, 2012, 08:18 pm
dumbass
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: raven92 on March 19, 2012, 11:18 pm
dumbass
+1

The forum/site is littered with "DONT USE A FAKE NAME" for a reason. Using a fake name gives them a reason to look at the package, and that can never be good.

Being on the road means you might get in an accident, you can buckle up and drive deffensively but there never is a garuntee.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: x8Mx on March 20, 2012, 12:32 am

Being on the road means you might get in an accident, you can buckle up and drive deffensively but there never is a garuntee.
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+1 to you sir, well said.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: godofall2 on March 20, 2012, 03:53 am
dont use fake name or miss spell it. like it was said it can/will make it so you dont get it. when you open the po box just say it for a business you own. then you can have mail sent to the boxs with whatever name you come up with for your business. i see many orders like that so odds are they dont even ask to see proof at all.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: marker2319 on March 20, 2012, 04:37 am
dont use fake name or miss spell it. like it was said it can/will make it so you dont get it. when you open the po box just say it for a business you own. then you can have mail sent to the boxs with whatever name you come up with for your business. i see many orders like that so odds are they dont even ask to see proof at all.

I just opened a box and have been thinking about the business name idea.... The box is registered in my name but you reckon if I place orders saying "complete office supplies po box etc etc" that it would be effective way to get around the fake name flag?
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: godofall2 on March 20, 2012, 04:43 am
dont use fake name or miss spell it. like it was said it can/will make it so you dont get it. when you open the po box just say it for a business you own. then you can have mail sent to the boxs with whatever name you come up with for your business. i see many orders like that so odds are they dont even ask to see proof at all.

I just opened a box and have been thinking about the business name idea.... The box is registered in my name but you reckon if I place orders saying "complete office supplies po box etc etc" that it would be effective way to get around the fake name flag?

as long as whatever you use is listed as the business name for that box it fine. i will guess when you open the box they ask what the name of the business you say it XXXXXX then if that is the name on the order your fine. it come down to what listed as who gets mail there.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: marker2319 on March 20, 2012, 05:04 am
dont use fake name or miss spell it. like it was said it can/will make it so you dont get it. when you open the po box just say it for a business you own. then you can have mail sent to the boxs with whatever name you come up with for your business. i see many orders like that so odds are they dont even ask to see proof at all.

I just opened a box and have been thinking about the business name idea.... The box is registered in my name but you reckon if I place orders saying "complete office supplies po box etc etc" that it would be effective way to get around the fake name flag?

as long as whatever you use is listed as the business name for that box it fine. i will guess when you open the box they ask what the name of the business you say it XXXXXX then if that is the name on the order your fine. it come down to what listed as who gets mail there.

Alright, well I might just go and say to them, I will have mail coming to this box addressed to this business, is that okay or do I have to register all names that will be sent to the box (act stupid, like you think the mail wont be put in it if its not addressed right) and see what they say? Probably will punch it into the computer and all will be sweet?
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: Gary Oak on March 20, 2012, 09:08 am
I've only purchased products that don't smell and are very easily concealed for the most part. Because of that, I see no reason why I should bring any suspicion to me whatsoever. Therefore my real name and real address is used every time I make a purchase. Each time is a risk, so why not act casual about it?  ;D

The way I view it is the same way as when I take drugs in public. No one is expecting me to be tripping balls, so I don't act like I am unless I'm in the clear. Going to prison isn't all bad if you ever get caught though, at least you can still get hooked up. ;)
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: quinone on March 27, 2012, 01:40 pm
Alright, well I might just go and say to them, I will have mail coming to this box addressed to this business, is that okay or do I have to register all names that will be sent to the box (act stupid, like you think the mail wont be put in it if its not addressed right) and see what they say? Probably will punch it into the computer and all will be sweet?

It's not typical for postal staff to ask you about your business, and if they ask to chat it's none of their business.  On a UPS mailbox anyways the business line of the form is 'optional' and doesn't require any form of identification that that business exists, you can call it 123 Fuck My Ass and .. well you'd be screwed for giving it that name lol but they don't ask for business registration documents.

So just be creative in coming up with a ubiquitous name that is congruent with the shipping patterns of SR and you won't need to have packages shipped to your first and last name, but rather your fictitious business name.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: flipside on March 27, 2012, 02:52 pm
In our experience, most post offices in the US will only deliver a letter addressed to the registered owner of the PO box.

Although we are not the only ones here with this opinion (yet in direct contrast to the opinions of many others here) we have always used fake names successfully, for many years.

Whether it be to open a PO box, or to simply have a package delivered to your home address with some "plausible deniability".

We feel using a fake name "can" have many advantages "if" used correctly, but we are however unfortunately much too tired at the moment to explain much further.

We will try to offer you more information/advice on the matter once we awake from a (hopefully) deep and pleasant benzo-flavored slumber. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: mju7 on March 27, 2012, 03:44 pm
Register the PO box in a fake name, then have packages sent to that fake name to that box.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: Mecajesus on March 28, 2012, 06:53 am
That....Was a mistake unfortunately.

If you're that worried about getting caught or whatever., just maybe misspell your name by 1 or a few letters, that was it's more believable if you were to get caught that you "never met this guy, he's trying to sabotage me", etc
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: novocaine on March 28, 2012, 07:46 am
dumbass
+1

The forum/site is littered with "DONT USE A FAKE NAME" for a reason. Using a fake name gives them a reason to look at the package, and that can never be good.

Being on the road means you might get in an accident, you can buckle up and drive deffensively but there never is a garuntee.

It all depends on where you are.
Using a fake name has no consequence in certain countries. This is tried and tested.

Seriously... do you really want a vendor to know your name?? fuck that.

Its fake or nothing.

Arse Ticklers Faggots Fan Club
Walter White
32 fuckyoupig St (real street name has been changed for privacy)
Darwin NT 6969
Australia

Will get you a successful delivery and a few larfs at the PO where I am from.

Do you reckon I am a dumbass+1?



Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: riddikulus on March 28, 2012, 09:20 am
dumbass
+1

The forum/site is littered with "DONT USE A FAKE NAME" for a reason. Using a fake name gives them a reason to look at the package, and that can never be good.

Being on the road means you might get in an accident, you can buckle up and drive deffensively but there never is a garuntee.

It all depends on where you are.
Using a fake name has no consequence in certain countries. This is tried and tested.

Seriously... do you really want a vendor to know your name?? fuck that.

Its fake or nothing.

Arse Ticklers Faggots Fan Club
Walter White
32 fuckyoupig St (real street name has been changed for privacy)
Darwin NT 6969
Australia

Will get you a successful delivery and a few larfs at the PO where I am from.

Do you reckon I am a dumbass+1?

A little paranoid =-p but definitely not a dumbass.

I only use fake names, never a problem.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: mungingout on March 28, 2012, 09:44 am
I really cant see how using a fake name is any safer than using a real name, if anything just raises suspicion, not to mention land you in more trouble if you do get caught.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: novocaine on March 28, 2012, 10:13 am
it is not really a matter of being safer(knock on the door) as it is a matter a privacy.

IMO If you use a real name when ordering you may as well use your real name as your SR buying name and SR alias.

Worst case scenario.... some  tweaker vendor finds you on fuckbook and wants to be your friend. You deny/block..he gets offended and during a bender he decides it will be funny to broadcast your deets.

A vendor gets pissed off at how a transaction went down. Anonymously posts your details online. It doesnt have to be posted on SR.

DON'T have FB, blogs, business email/website, paypal account, your name not listed anywhere easy enough to find, that can be linked to the area your product is getting shipped to???.... the above will not really matter.

99.9% of vendors it will not be a problem. Personally I am lazy enough to bother searching a name online. For all I know all my customers are using fake names but there will always be one that will fuck you over if you give them the chance
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: momiji on March 28, 2012, 02:08 pm
You can't always have a fake name in every given situation but 90% of the time when you can have a fake name you should. It is usually safer.

I always do the mail test. I mail myself a blank envelope from a blue mail box ahead of time. If it goes through I know I'm fine. If it doesn't, then I haven't lost my payload. I recommend everyone else does the same when in doubt.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: bananatinpots on March 30, 2012, 03:30 pm
I think it's been mentioned (don't know if it's true) that fake personal names on PO Boxes make postal fraud or something like that... (USA?)

I'm sure that fake names serve a purpose in some situations but if your getting shit sent to your house it doesn't seem to be a good idea and if your committing another crime using one on a PO box then it might not be a good idea if you are just ordering personal amounts.

If your really paranoid about revealing your name to vendors I would speculate that initials might be a better compromise.  Mr J N Doe on computer printed labels shouldn't raise too much suspicion and keeps you relatively anonymous....

All depends on location though, no?
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: yournamehere on March 30, 2012, 09:43 pm
So what is the verdict for US ?  I see some Aus users who advocate a fake name, but the penalties for a fake name in the US can be steep.

Any US based SR users with some input?
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 31, 2012, 01:13 am
That....Was a mistake unfortunately.

If you're that worried about getting caught or whatever., just maybe misspell your name by 1 or a few letters, that was it's more believable if you were to get caught that you "never met this guy, he's trying to sabotage me", etc

That is ABSURD. That's NOT any more believable! What the fuck are you talking about?

Why would an enemy bothering to try to sabotage you not even know how to spell your name correctly, when EVERY other piece of mail you receive is directed to the correctly spelled name you use for all other letters?

An enemy would know one intimately...

That makes absolutely no sense. Having your real name on mail doesn't make you guilty of intent or possession or anything.

Please, man, if you ever get busted, for the sake of everyone you know and love, shut your mouth. You sound like someone ready to spill the beans.

There's no reason to explain anything about anything illegal you've ever done. Don't talk to law enforcement - let your attorney do so. If you don't have an attorney, wait until you do before considering telling law enforcement anything other than your name and date of birth.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: kidx on April 02, 2012, 03:22 am
Well, since you're not supposed to use a P.O. box to have your shipments delivered, your already breaking SR's rules regarding buyers and shipments.

The seller shouldn't have even sent it to you.

The post office won't put it in your box if you don't list the registered name. You should forget about the po box stuff anyway.

All you can do is have it delivered to a legitimate address and be there to get it when it is delivered. It's really not that hard if you ask for a tracking number.

The idea is that if you get busted, you are supposed to say that you didn't order anything, and conclude that someone else must have had it shipped to your address thinking that they would intercept it somehow. Lie and Deny.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: kidx on April 02, 2012, 03:25 am
That....Was a mistake unfortunately.

If you're that worried about getting caught or whatever., just maybe misspell your name by 1 or a few letters, that was it's more believable if you were to get caught that you "never met this guy, he's trying to sabotage me", etc

That is ABSURD. That's NOT any more believable! What the fuck are you talking about?

Why would an enemy bothering to try to sabotage you not even know how to spell your name correctly, when EVERY other piece of mail you receive is directed to the correctly spelled name you use for all other letters?

An enemy would know one intimately...

That makes absolutely no sense. Having your real name on mail doesn't make you guilty of intent or possession or anything.

Please, man, if you ever get busted, for the sake of everyone you know and love, shut your mouth. You sound like someone ready to spill the beans.

There's no reason to explain anything about anything illegal you've ever done. Don't talk to law enforcement - let your attorney do so. If you don't have an attorney, wait until you do before considering telling law enforcement anything other than your name and date of birth.

Thank you. I'm glad to hear that there are some people with common sense among us.

I agree just use your real fucking name. If you get busted you get busted, and it's not going to matter if you have your name or Joe Blowjob written on the fucking package, you're on the hook for it.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: kidx on April 02, 2012, 03:29 am
I think it's been mentioned (don't know if it's true) that fake personal names on PO Boxes make postal fraud or something like that... (USA?)

I'm sure that fake names serve a purpose in some situations but if your getting shit sent to your house it doesn't seem to be a good idea and if your committing another crime using one on a PO box then it might not be a good idea if you are just ordering personal amounts.

If your really paranoid about revealing your name to vendors I would speculate that initials might be a better compromise.  Mr J N Doe on computer printed labels shouldn't raise too much suspicion and keeps you relatively anonymous....

All depends on location though, no?

How would you get a po box in a fake name anyway? They ask for your identification to sign up, so I guess you are talking about faking an identity to get a po box? Not a good plan at all. You are already potentially drawing attention to the situation before you even had anything shipped.

If I were a cop looking to catch some people, I would simply tell the post office to let the idiots sign up with their fake name, then they can simply intercept every package that arrives and wait for you to come and pick it up.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: novocaine on April 02, 2012, 05:18 am
Well, since you're not supposed to use a P.O. box to have your shipments delivered, your already breaking SR's rules regarding buyers and shipments.

The seller shouldn't have even sent it to you.

The post office won't put it in your box if you don't list the registered name. You should forget about the po box stuff anyway.

All you can do is have it delivered to a legitimate address and be there to get it when it is delivered. It's really not that hard if you ask for a tracking number.

The idea is that if you get busted, you are supposed to say that you didn't order anything, and conclude that someone else must have had it shipped to your address thinking that they would intercept it somehow. Lie and Deny.

I sure as shit won't negatize you...but this is crap advise.
I have read it sober and now not so sober and it is still shit ;)
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: momiji on April 02, 2012, 11:07 am
@dr whoo

Same question can be asked without a fake name. If it doesn't come it is most likely due to customs. If it was USA -> USA domestic the answer would be yes, it can be mailed and should arrive.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: dotNorma on April 04, 2012, 08:59 am
You have to sign for a package in a controlled delivery in order to get charged. If you DO NOT sign you CAN NOT be charged. So put your real name and have the package delivered to your address.  If they don't ask you to sign then you have drugs and are scotch free! If they do ask you to sign then decline and you are scotch free!

If the package had a fake name on it all you would be doing is decreasing the likeliness that it will be delivered OR increasing the likeliness that they will inspect it, notice its contraband, and then perform a controlled delivery. (In which case they would just charge whoever is dumb enough to sign for the package regardless of what their name was)
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: opentoe on April 05, 2012, 01:32 am
Here is the deal. When you open up a PO BOX in the US they ask for ID. Two forms of ID actually. Register it with fake ID or not. I'm not going to say how I did it. The post office knows PO BOXES are used for ALL type of reasons. People don't like mail at their house, hiding from their husband/wife, all types of stuff. As long as you get the PO BOX # correct with the right town name/zip code your package will get delivered there. I tested my PO BOX with ALL types of weird addressing and as long as the PO BOX# was correct with the town name and zip code it always made it right into my own PO BOX.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: seuss on April 05, 2012, 12:58 pm
when u get a p.o. box with a fake id, you're using a fake name, right? so how is that unsafe?
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: godofall2 on April 05, 2012, 01:11 pm
if you open the PO box with a fake id and that name is listed as someone who get mail there then your fine. if you use a fake name say billy bob and they dont live there. they may not deliver it. some time they do but other time they dont so it a hit or miss.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: BE HERE NOW on April 06, 2012, 09:35 am
Not sure how sound this is but I've been told to write under fake name "C/O resident" in regards to a house, meaning "care of", so in a PO perhaps you can say something to that effect. C/O J. Doe.

I would instead, if possible, seek out a postal annex/shipping/mail box store where you get an ACTUAL address NOT a PO. That way you can tell the store clerks that you have a friend visiting, a relative or you can use the same last name and they'd likely accept it for you because you're one of their customers.

I got a few packages sent with NO NAME, just address, and they had held it by the counter and just handed it to me when I asked if there was a package.

For a PO, why can't one simply have a relative visiting, friend, traveler etc... needing a bit of mail on your behalf? That's all you'd have to say, right? And the signing for the package is correct regarding getting popped. Never sign.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: yournamehere on April 06, 2012, 02:00 pm
when u get a p.o. box with a fake id, you're using a fake name, right? so how is that unsafe?
Re-read the thread.

Some places have mail fraud laws whereby opening a PO Box with a fake ID and name is a crime by it's self.  Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL crime and can land you 5 years.

If you live in a place where no such laws exist, then go ahead and use a fake ID to open a PO Box.  Otherwise, you're taking a big risk if you get caught.  That 1 g of dank that would have gotten you 30 days or a fine will cost you time in a federal penitentiary.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: xpressnightly on April 06, 2012, 06:12 pm
What if I use my first name and last initial? I've done this before when I used to own a PO Box and always got my mail. I'm just not sure if doing the first name/last initial thing will throw up a red flag at the post office.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: LucyDiamond on April 06, 2012, 06:37 pm
when u get a p.o. box with a fake id, you're using a fake name, right? so how is that unsafe?
Re-read the thread.

Some places have mail fraud laws whereby opening a PO Box with a fake ID and name is a crime by it's self.  Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL crime and can land you 5 years.

If you live in a place where no such laws exist, then go ahead and use a fake ID to open a PO Box.  Otherwise, you're taking a big risk if you get caught.  That 1 g of dank that would have gotten you 30 days or a fine will cost you time in a federal penitentiary.

I guess it all depends on what you're buying. If you're buying something that might get you > 2 years maybe a fake ID isn't too bad of an idea...
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: yournamehere on April 06, 2012, 06:58 pm
when u get a p.o. box with a fake id, you're using a fake name, right? so how is that unsafe?
Re-read the thread.

Some places have mail fraud laws whereby opening a PO Box with a fake ID and name is a crime by it's self.  Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL crime and can land you 5 years.

If you live in a place where no such laws exist, then go ahead and use a fake ID to open a PO Box.  Otherwise, you're taking a big risk if you get caught.  That 1 g of dank that would have gotten you 30 days or a fine will cost you time in a federal penitentiary.

I guess it all depends on what you're buying. If you're buying something that might get you > 2 years maybe a fake ID isn't too bad of an idea...
Good point.  If you're bringing in a lot or some really illegal shit I'd go with a shelf company.  For the regular joe smoker buying pot/hash?  Bad idea.  Especially if you live in a decriminalized state.  You'd be using a felony to cover up a misdemeanor!
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: quinone on April 10, 2012, 01:36 am
UPS rent's 'mailboxes'.  They are effectively PO boxes but don't look anything like them on the shipping address.

You do need as usual to do the 2 piece ID thing, and write out all accuracte info, but you can also write in a Business Address under an optional box on the form. 

They don't ask for business licensee numbers, proof, etc. you could make it "I Tap That Industries" if you were so inclined.

An address would look something like this though:
<My Totally Mixes In With The Mail The Best Business Name>
<Address>
<Suite #> .. This is the ONLY part that if you want to call 'sketch' you can cuz it can be interpreted as a PO box, but there are also millions of apartment buildings ... with millions of different suites :D
<City> <State> <Zip>

When someone ships you something your name doesn't need to be ANYWHERE AT ALL on the shipping label, period !! just your business name.

They also give you a key so you can get into the building 24 hours and they have a no camera policy in every state i'm aware of.

Using a made up business name is NOT FRAUD!!!  The form asks for "Business Name (Optional)" and they otherwise ask for NO business information (what have you defrauded when u never provided fraudulent proof of your business?)
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: PuppetMaster on April 10, 2012, 04:26 am
I read this thread start to finish, and one interesting thing is how much the various opinions on the matter contrast. Seems like each person has their own differing opinion, somewhat.

As I've never used a P.O box, I will not comment on that (sorry, I know its the topic of the thread). However, I do have 2 things to say:

1) Someone replied , detailing how a UPS mail center works. They are spot on. I went with a very close friend to one, he used his for months, for receiving research chems while he was living with his parents. It was 24/7, and had no cameras.  I went with him once at 3am, completely empty with no staff....he had either a keycard or a key to get in. It was really neat, lol.

2) I've used my home address for almost two decades on and off to receive packages with 'interesting' contents :)   During this long time period, I've used many different aliases, with no problems what so ever. I'm only mentioning this, because although the topic is on P.O boxes, it did seem as if someone replied stating it was a bad idea to use fake names for home addresses as well. This is DEFINITELY not true.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: seuss on April 12, 2012, 06:33 pm
when u get a p.o. box with a fake id, you're using a fake name, right? so how is that unsafe?
Re-read the thread.

Some places have mail fraud laws whereby opening a PO Box with a fake ID and name is a crime by it's self.  Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL crime and can land you 5 years.

If you live in a place where no such laws exist, then go ahead and use a fake ID to open a PO Box.  Otherwise, you're taking a big risk if you get caught.  That 1 g of dank that would have gotten you 30 days or a fine will cost you time in a federal penitentiary.

i heard people say it's better to keep anything illegal away from your residence. and 1 g of dank? come on, even an ounce that is triple sealed, securely packed and shipped will not trigger any alarms as it's delivered to a usps p.o. box. theres really no odor with that amount of protection. and someone already said that one should wait a couple of days after it's delivered, to circumvent any controlled delivery.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: phubaiblues on April 13, 2012, 12:41 am
Often, the two problems on SilkRoad conflict: How to Avoid Detection vs. How To Beat a Case.  Sure, fake i.d., fake address, 'have shit sent to granny', use mailbox from abandoned house down the street,  may keep the cops off your trail...

*BUT*

If you do get caught, or even just rousted by a suspicious postal inspector, then all these little 'disguises' just make you look guilty, both in the cop's eyes, and in the eyes of a jury.

While if you just get your goodies sent to you at home, well, then, legally, they'd have trouble making a case....I think sometimes people forget that circumstantial evidence counts.  If shit hits the fan, you're better off *not* having all this good protection...better to have the number of a good criminal lawyer and a bondsman, and then just keep your mouth shut and you'll beat the case...


Again: what seems good and cute now, will just make you look guilty if you get caught.  I'd bone up a little bit on postal inspectors...see what, how, they operate, rather than worry too much about fake i.d. and fake names on po box and such...
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: raven92 on April 13, 2012, 04:26 am
I think sometimes people forget that circumstantial evidence counts.

+1, People on here seem to truely belive that it doesnt.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: genghar on April 13, 2012, 06:43 pm
UPS rent's 'mailboxes'.  They are effectively PO boxes but don't look anything like them on the shipping address.

You do need as usual to do the 2 piece ID thing, and write out all accuracte info, but you can also write in a Business Address under an optional box on the form. 

They don't ask for business licensee numbers, proof, etc. you could make it "I Tap That Industries" if you were so inclined.

An address would look something like this though:
<My Totally Mixes In With The Mail The Best Business Name>
<Address>
<Suite #> .. This is the ONLY part that if you want to call 'sketch' you can cuz it can be interpreted as a PO box, but there are also millions of apartment buildings ... with millions of different suites :D
<City> <State> <Zip>

When someone ships you something your name doesn't need to be ANYWHERE AT ALL on the shipping label, period !! just your business name.

They also give you a key so you can get into the building 24 hours and they have a no camera policy in every state i'm aware of.

Using a made up business name is NOT FRAUD!!!  The form asks for "Business Name (Optional)" and they otherwise ask for NO business information (what have you defrauded when u never provided fraudulent proof of your business?)

I am madly in love with this idea for a buddy of mine.  He's been looking for reliable ways to move stuff around for a while.  The thing is, UPS doesn't need a warrant to go through your shit, do they?  That's why you mainly want to use USPS.  What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: McGoober on April 13, 2012, 10:25 pm
Well I recently opened a P.O. BOX and I made a purchase on SR. I gave my address and I used a fake name. I never received the package and now I don't know if I should use the same address with real name or just use another one with my real name. What is the best way to receive mail from SR and stay Anonymous?

Why don't you explain how you bypassed the Photo ID and secondary ID requirements of opening a USPS box?  You are full of shit.


No, he's not. Just dumb. He didn't say he got the P.O. box in a fake name, but that he ordered with a fake name. That's why he didn't get the package - the P.O. won't deliver the package if the name on it doesn't match the one for the box.

Using a P.O. box  at all is just asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: quinone on April 14, 2012, 03:54 am
UPS rent's 'mailboxes'.  They are effectively PO boxes but don't look anything like them on the shipping address.

You do need as usual to do the 2 piece ID thing, and write out all accuracte info, but you can also write in a Business Address under an optional box on the form. 

They don't ask for business licensee numbers, proof, etc. you could make it "I Tap That Industries" if you were so inclined.

An address would look something like this though:
<My Totally Mixes In With The Mail The Best Business Name>
<Address>
<Suite #> .. This is the ONLY part that if you want to call 'sketch' you can cuz it can be interpreted as a PO box, but there are also millions of apartment buildings ... with millions of different suites :D
<City> <State> <Zip>

When someone ships you something your name doesn't need to be ANYWHERE AT ALL on the shipping label, period !! just your business name.

They also give you a key so you can get into the building 24 hours and they have a no camera policy in every state i'm aware of.

Using a made up business name is NOT FRAUD!!!  The form asks for "Business Name (Optional)" and they otherwise ask for NO business information (what have you defrauded when u never provided fraudulent proof of your business?)

I am madly in love with this idea for a buddy of mine.  He's been looking for reliable ways to move stuff around for a while.  The thing is, UPS doesn't need a warrant to go through your shit, do they?  That's why you mainly want to use USPS.  What are your thoughts?

Like PharmaKarma eluded to, the UPS store/your box is the same thing as your postal carrier dropping mail off at your house.  That is to say, USPS is the level where mail is inspected, once it's released to UPS or your local postal carriers you are pretty much in the free and clear and the only way of getting a warrant is if the postal carrier (or UPS postal store worker, same thing) see your package as suspicious and then send it BACK to USPS, who do an inspection if they can find grounds to obtain a warrant. 

It's like saying the guy who deliver's mail to your house (or a UPS store mailbox) has the right to open your mail if he (or the store) feel like it.  That's why (in the USA) USPS exists I guess.
Title: Re: Used fake name on P.O. Box
Post by: kwbhigh on April 15, 2012, 01:41 am
using fake name for local shipping/delivry is a good way to go.
especially when you have good fake ID.

but when you try to import some good under a fake name, i don't know really how they find it, but they always get holds on your packages.