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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: JamesDeansSkull on January 14, 2012, 11:34 pm

Title: Here's my theory .....
Post by: JamesDeansSkull on January 14, 2012, 11:34 pm
..... Silk Road is run by the U.S. government.

Since no one is sending anything on here via FedEx or UPS, all these packages are being sent through the US Post Office.

A government agency horribly in debt and on the edge of being being made obsolete by the internet.

SR is injecting a great deal of money into the postal system daily.

Big Brother lets a few bags of weed and some pills get sent coast-to-coast and they make payroll this week.
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Post by: Asbury on January 14, 2012, 11:39 pm
What if Silk Road is Obama?  I N C E P T I O N
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Post by: Horizons on January 14, 2012, 11:58 pm
Obviously.
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Post by: JamesDeansSkull on January 15, 2012, 12:42 am
..... This may mean WE won the war on drugs, people!!
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Post by: treebeard on January 15, 2012, 12:50 am
haha, yeah. 8) the thing is there are decent odds it is run by the US government.
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Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on January 15, 2012, 07:14 pm
...any other "evidence"...otherwise sounds as bit like guess work...

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Post by: freddieisdead on January 15, 2012, 10:36 pm
The US government running this sounds like a dream come true. Enabling and facilitating the exchange of substances world wide would make me proud to be an American.
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Post by: kmfkewm on January 16, 2012, 01:42 am
The US government running this sounds like a dream come true. Enabling and facilitating the exchange of substances world wide would make me proud to be an American.

I have day dreamed that it might have non-malicious ties to the US government, perhaps they discovered they can effectively tax the sales of illegal drugs (one of the main reasons statists give for why the government hasn't been in a hurry to make drugs legal). Then I remember that they don't have a monopoly on the market so can't tax it forever with the SR model unless they still bust everyone else who attempts to sell drugs that are untaxed. And then I remember that they dont need to tax drugs because they are already making a fortune via taxing people in the name of fighting the war on drugs and selling us all to the prison industrial slave traders (myself not being a statist and thinking the government wants drugs to be illegal to keep us slaves for their own massive financial and political and other power). IMO it is more likely to be run by the C.I.A. to covertly fund some operation that they don't want the rest of the government to know about, they do need to get funding for their black operations somehow after all. I think the C.I.A. would make a more secure site than SR has though. So most likely it is run by some dude with a bit of technical know how who used to be a small time drug dealer, probably with some business and marketing schooling or experience, who saw the potential of bitcoin and wanted to further the agorist agenda and put some extra cash in his pockets.
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Post by: kmfkewm on January 16, 2012, 01:54 am
Also I still have not fully ruled out the possibility that SR is run by a federal agency for the purposes of intelligence gathering, however I am leaning against this idea because of the technologies used and the techniques suggested. As long as SR allows Tor and GPG and Bitcoin I think it is trust worthy, although to be fair almost all of the users here are using bitcoin incorrectly and can probably be deanonymized by financial network analysis. DEA might have realized that more people would use bitcoin incorrectly than correctly. However security is in the hands of the user no matter what. It is also possible the FBI or another agency found a zero day exploit in Tor or some other program and decided to launch a massive intelligence gathering operation against the drug using and dealing community (ability to identify 100k drug users and dealers around the world would be a world record setting law enforcement intelligence operation...people would be put in the law enforcement hall of fame). I know of one Tor zero day vulnerability and there is some research team that is claiming to have another although I think they have made extremely overstated claims in the past and are not being taken very seriously as they have not yet disclosed it in technical detail.
I don't think LE are smart enough to do these things though, although users on SR really need to start anonymizing their bitcoins and not by using SR's mix either.
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Post by: v01d on January 16, 2012, 09:46 pm
although users on SR really need to start anonymizing their bitcoins and not by using SR's mix either.
How would you advise to do that? I already mix it around 10 instawallets over the course of a few days.
My wallet > 3 different instawallets accessed by different tor > sent to 5 different ones > sent to two wallets > to silkroad, a different SR btc address each time.
Give or take a step.
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Post by: JamesDeansSkull on January 16, 2012, 11:27 pm
although users on SR really need to start anonymizing their bitcoins and not by using SR's mix either.
How would you advise to do that? I already mix it around 10 instawallets over the course of a few days.
My wallet > 3 different instawallets accessed by different tor > sent to 5 different ones > sent to two wallets > to silkroad, a different SR btc address each time.
Give or take a step.

.... That's ALL you do????

 .... I do that PLUS the following .... Buy my Moneypak cards in different stores in different cities in different counties in different states on different days of the week .... I change the color of my hair bi-daily. Move to a different address once a month. Have plastic surgery performed bi-monthly. Liposuction weekly. And sexual gender re-assignment surgery and hormone treatments every 6 months.

Because you can never be too careful, people!!
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Post by: tordemon on January 17, 2012, 12:35 am
I thought the whole point of BTC was that it was anonymous, though. I thought you didn't have to send that shit all over the place to make it anonymous; it just was.
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Post by: treebeard on January 17, 2012, 12:49 am
IMO it is more likely to be run by the C.I.A. to covertly fund some operation that they don't want the rest of the government to know about, they do need to get funding for their black operations somehow after all. I think the C.I.A. would make a more secure site than SR has though. So most likely it is run by some dude with a bit of technical know how who used to be a small time drug dealer, probably with some business and marketing schooling or experience, who saw the potential of bitcoin and wanted to further the agorist agenda and put some extra cash in his pockets.

this is pretty much what I was thinking
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Post by: Mr Stilt on January 17, 2012, 02:32 am
Oh boy, here we go.
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Post by: kmfkewm on January 17, 2012, 02:38 am
I thought the whole point of BTC was that it was anonymous, though. I thought you didn't have to send that shit all over the place to make it anonymous; it just was.

In addition to not being inherently anonymous, Bitcoin is inherently linkable because the entire transaction history of the entire network is public for anyone to look at. If you are not using a *real* mixing solution (preferably with blind signatures) or obtaining the bitcoins anonymously (paying with cash in the mail, for example) then you are not anonymous. Bitcoins are as anonymous as the method used to pay for them unless you take steps to further anonymize them.
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Post by: tordemon on January 17, 2012, 03:35 am
Welp, learn something new every day.
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Post by: treebeard on January 17, 2012, 04:58 am
Oh boy, here we go.

;)  part of the fun of these forums is stoking the flame of paranoia
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Post by: Bob Arctor on January 17, 2012, 09:16 am
lizard people, it's lizard people, man...
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Post by: cache on January 17, 2012, 10:31 am
Fuck that shit, it's actually run by North Korea. All the drugs here are laced with a very slow acting but potent poison so that eventually they will kill a large proportion of the western lotus-eaters and can then ride to victory in the war to end all wars.
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Post by: Rassu322 on January 17, 2012, 11:45 pm
Haha funny thread

But how about when a CIA plane, crashed, with 100+ Tonnes of processed Cocaine going FROM south america TO the USA

How in the fuck can that be explained away?
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Post by: bionic1 on January 18, 2012, 05:16 pm
Don't you see whats going on? SilkRoad is the new strategy of the government to end the whole drug issue once and for all!! In a few years every real life drug markets will be completely disappeared. No dealers on the streets, no drug trafficking, no stoners, no junkies, no criminality. And this is only because everyone will order his or her drugs from home, having it shipped with the post or FedEx. Not a single bud or pill will ever see the public world again, nor will anything else that is related to drugs...

and omg, it seems that they'll get away with this!

This could mean the end the drug problem as we know it!
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Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on January 18, 2012, 06:48 pm
Don't you see whats going on? SilkRoad is the new strategy of the government to end the whole drug issue once and for all!! In a few years every real life drug markets will be completely disappeared. No dealers on the streets, no drug trafficking, no stoners, no junkies, no criminality. And this is only because everyone will order his or her drugs from home, having it shipped with the post or FedEx. Not a single bud or pill will ever see the public world again, nor will anything else that is related to drugs...

and omg, it seems that they'll get away with this!

...thats not how "criminality" works..talk about one assumption after another..
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Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on January 18, 2012, 10:45 pm
...ok, after reading pm....
...street crime etc will not magically change.....they won't unless there's a major shift in policy, economic growth, spreading of the wealth...the world is in major decline.

 ;)
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Post by: treebeard on January 19, 2012, 04:41 am
Don't you see whats going on? SilkRoad is the new strategy of the government to end the whole drug issue once and for all!! In a few years every real life drug markets will be completely disappeared. No dealers on the streets, no drug trafficking, no stoners, no junkies, no criminality. And this is only because everyone will order his or her drugs from home, having it shipped with the post or FedEx. Not a single bud or pill will ever see the public world again, nor will anything else that is related to drugs...

and omg, it seems that they'll get away with this!

This could mean the end the drug problem as we know it!

indeed. plus they make a nice percentage on top  8)
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Post by: kmfkewm on January 19, 2012, 05:24 am
Don't you see whats going on? SilkRoad is the new strategy of the government to end the whole drug issue once and for all!! In a few years every real life drug markets will be completely disappeared. No dealers on the streets, no drug trafficking, no stoners, no junkies, no criminality. And this is only because everyone will order his or her drugs from home, having it shipped with the post or FedEx. Not a single bud or pill will ever see the public world again, nor will anything else that is related to drugs...

and omg, it seems that they'll get away with this!

This could mean the end the drug problem as we know it!

indeed. plus they make a nice percentage on top  8)

SR makes no where near the amount of money the government makes by fighting the war on drugs. The only people who disagree with this are fucking retards who thinks the government spends its own money to fight the war on drugs, rather than stealing money from the people to fund itself. The war on drugs is a means to an end, increased funding for government agencies and increased power for police forces. Of course it has some other goals though, like keeping religious whack jobs happy and pouring money into corporations who in turn support politicians who support the war on drugs. The war on drugs is a modern form of slavery where the freedom of some minority / subset of the population is sold to corporations for profit. The war on drugs is a campaign to round up slaves for elite private interests, the war on drugs is funded by money stole from other slaves.