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Title: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: siddhartha on March 27, 2012, 01:59 pm
Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone else was having problems with Vortexmilkman? I finalized early on one of his orders of 5 lollipops. I should have known better than to finalize early, but I had done a previous order with him that went fine, so I went ahead and did it. Anyway, one month later and I have not received my order and Vortexmilkman has not been very responsive at all.

I was just wondering if anyone else was having issues?

- Sid
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: electriccrazyman on March 27, 2012, 02:39 pm
I have no reason to doubt VMM but the pattern is not good. When I have been ripped off it has always been a vendor that I had done business with and had one or many successful transactions with. Then they asked me to finalize early, I did, and things didn't work out. VMM's account has been active daily - I've been wondering when he'll take action on an order I placed. If he's not responding that isn't good. Thirty days is too long for no communications and not delivery especially when the vendor has been online.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: Geoffe on March 27, 2012, 03:43 pm
Yes. My priority package was shipped supposedly a week ago.
My friend's was shipped OVER a week ago.
We've received nothing.
Won't answer my PM's yet he's putting on new sale prices and askin more ppl to finalize early.
I'm so fucking pissed.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: lonchainme on March 27, 2012, 04:14 pm
just thought I'd come in here and say that I ordered a half gram this past friday; he asked me to finalize early because we'd done business before, and said that he would be mailing it to me within the next few hours.  I finalized early, he mailed it that day, and I had it on Monday.  No complaints with him, FWIW.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: mikeybourbon on March 27, 2012, 04:17 pm
I ordered Tuesday, was marked in transit about a day later.  I was never asked to finalize early but still no package.  Hoping for today though.  I paid for Priority shipping and this was my first order with him.  I guess I have nothing to lose because I wasn't required to finalize early and I think I could win back all my BTC in the resolution center in 5 days. 
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: sonic on March 27, 2012, 05:22 pm
Before any of you think you may leave bad feedback or an angry message, remember VortexMilkMan just threatened to release the information of a buyer to the police a month or so back because they left bad feedback that VMM didn't agree with.  Yes, you read that correctly: VMM threatened to report a buyer's information to the police.  Don't take my word for it, run a search for VortexMilkMan and see if the thread about it is still around.

Even if VMM was the only person selling meth and they were paying you to take it, I'd still say be careful when dealing with VMM.  If bad feedback and an angry PM can make a vendor consider and even threaten to release buyer info to the police, when VMM eventually gets busted they are going to spill the information on every supplier and client to get their sentence reduced.

Honestly, you'd be better off and safer in the long-run just walking down to your friendly neighborhood Aryan Brotherhood territory and buying some meth from any one of the trailers there.  I'd be afraid that VMM would send my details to the feds, but thankfully I've never dealt with law enforceme--excuse me, I mean VMM.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: siddhartha on March 27, 2012, 06:56 pm
Before any of you think you may leave bad feedback or an angry message, remember VortexMilkMan just threatened to release the information of a buyer to the police a month or so back because they left bad feedback that VMM didn't agree with.  Yes, you read that correctly: VMM threatened to report a buyer's information to the police.  Don't take my word for it, run a search for VortexMilkMan and see if the thread about it is still around.

Even if VMM was the only person selling meth and they were paying you to take it, I'd still say be careful when dealing with VMM.  If bad feedback and an angry PM can make a vendor consider and even threaten to release buyer info to the police, when VMM eventually gets busted they are going to spill the information on every supplier and client to get their sentence reduced.

Honestly, you'd be better off and safer in the long-run just walking down to your friendly neighborhood Aryan Brotherhood territory and buying some meth from any one of the trailers there.  I'd be afraid that VMM would send my details to the feds, but thankfully I've never dealt with law enforceme--excuse me, I mean VMM.

Yeah, that thread got posted after I placed my order, unfortunately. It is odd though, he posted in the thead...DigitalAlch says his account had been suspended, but he is still VERY ACTIVE on SR and no one ever discussed what happened or what the resolution was. If it was true, how can he still be allowed to sell on SR?
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: sonic on March 28, 2012, 07:34 pm
Yeah, that thread got posted after I placed my order, unfortunately. It is odd though, he posted in the thead...DigitalAlch says his account had been suspended, but he is still VERY ACTIVE on SR and no one ever discussed what happened or what the resolution was. If it was true, how can he still be allowed to sell on SR?

VMM is bringing in money for DPR and SR in general, so they will never forcibly be removed (nor could they be, they could be back with a new account in seconds).  DPR makes money off scams, too.  If DPR had a stake in the money lost from scams, they would have stopped them immediately.  However, SR and DPR still get commission even if you get no product, so basically "fuck you" is their mentality towards scammers.

In order of likelihood: VMM is just a moron that speaks before they think, VMM is a Confidential Informant, VMM is law-enforcement themselves and had a little Freudian slip.

EDIT:  Thanks for the negative karma I got right after posting about you VMM, I wonder who could have left that?  The funny thing is digital karma means shit to me; Karma is awarded based upon actions and you have negative karma in spades based on your actions.  Whether or not some little forum says I'm worse than I am better, my actions and words will represent me, not my karma rating.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: harpua25 on March 28, 2012, 07:55 pm
You got off easy, sonic. When i had the nerve to criticize him for lying to me several of his minions gave me negative karma, presumably with the hopes they'd get hooked up with a little extra next order. Much like you, i was utterly devastated.

edit: Heh. And I got another one for this post.  Losers.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: sonic on March 28, 2012, 10:20 pm
You got off easy, sonic. When i had the nerve to criticize him for lying to me several of his minions gave me negative karma, presumably with the hopes they'd get hooked up with a little extra next order. Much like you, i was utterly devastated.

edit: Heh. And I got another one for this post.  Losers.

I wonder how true to the theory of Karma digital karma is in that: the more bad karma you spread, the more bad karma you end up inheriting.  The funny thing is to arrange an attack on one's karma rating means you had to personally value the rating; if they didn't think karma was valuable, why would they care to damage it?  If the victim is indifferent, that makes it all the funnier that the bad karma that returns to the attackers actually DOES mean something to them.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: CX on March 29, 2012, 01:42 am
3 Weeks I've waited for my order from VMM after finalizing early. Messaged him 6 days ago with no reply... Not going to be finalizing early ever again...
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: salad on April 01, 2012, 12:14 am
I am in the same boat. It's been over 2 weeks and he said I was supposed to have received it today but of course it is not here; hopefully it will be here Monday. Definitely disappointed with Vortex, I thought he was supposed to be a standup seller. Even if he does come through, a seller that doesn't at least mail out his product within 2 days of ordering should never receive a 5/5. Hopefully the product will be really good to at least make up for some of his lack of speedy-ness....
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: siddhartha on April 01, 2012, 12:48 am
Well I have been in communication with him, and apparently my order was "misplaced." This was after I finalized early and waited a month to contact him. He swears it is in the mail now (with a little something extra for the trouble), but as far as I am concerned, if you are asking people to FE, then you really need to be on your shit and take care of your customers.

I will keep everyone posted on how this plays out for me. I currently posted a 1/5 feedback on my order, because I literally got nothing and I finalized early. My updated review will depend completely on how fast my order gets to me and what is included. I should mention, however, that this is my second order with him. My first one went off without a hitch and he included some awesome extras. I want to believe, VMM....

- Sid
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: talkinmonkey on April 03, 2012, 12:45 pm
I finalized 2 weeks ago, but still have hope.  Will post positive when package comes.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: Saule Goode on April 04, 2012, 01:31 am
Ordered nearly 3 weeks ago...still not received.  The order was placed on a Saturday and went "in transit" on Sunday.  Maybe the post-office near VMM works Sundays... who knows.   Everything about this cat lately is shady as fuck.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: skipjack on April 09, 2012, 11:25 am
I gotta go public that I've been waiting 5 weeks. Almost 6 now. And have received nothing.
I've had one successful order from VMM before.

I'm pissed off. I'm not the kind that jumps up and down here after 2 weeks of waiting.

BUT AFTER A MONTH AND A FUCKING HALF after I finalised early because of the first success.
Title: Re: Problems with VortexMilkman?
Post by: siddhartha on April 10, 2012, 03:09 am
I gotta go public that I've been waiting 5 weeks. Almost 6 now. And have received nothing.
I've had one successful order from VMM before.

I'm pissed off. I'm not the kind that jumps up and down here after 2 weeks of waiting.

BUT AFTER A MONTH AND A FUCKING HALF after I finalised early because of the first success.

Yeah, I am at a month and a half too with NOTHING as well. It looks like we both got scammed on our second orders. I just checked SR and he has no active listings now. Looks like he took them money and ran.