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Title: First time 2C-B
Post by: flyinghigh1660 on July 12, 2012, 05:15 pm
oooooo where have you been all my life  ;D

I think I might end up liking this one a wee bit too much.  :o
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 12, 2012, 06:50 pm
i have over 10  .20milligram capsules recieved from mahakala

have been waiting a while to try these out....


...should i 'test' one .20mg capsule sober or coming down off a molly trip?

and how is the over all feel...because i dont want my girlfriend to freak the fuck out like a bad mushroom trip.


thanks for any input/advice!!
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: tonedef on July 12, 2012, 06:58 pm
i am thinking of letting two people (guy/girl) let this be their first experience 'tripping' (well the visual part)
they only know mdma!
is this a good idea?  :)
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: etsubucs31 on July 12, 2012, 10:31 pm
I've only done it once, it was on the comedown from my last mdma trip. My friend had done it the week before (just 2cb alone) and had a lot of cool visuals. However neither of us got any visuals, I'm assuming the mdma overpowered the 2cb. On the positive side I did feel much better in the morning then normally after taking e. I'm definitely anxious to try it solo sometime. Maybe tomorrow!
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 12, 2012, 10:59 pm
oooooo where have you been all my life  ;D

I think I might end up liking this one a wee bit too much.  :o

The Grand Wizard can identify with that.  One of the nicest things about selling 2c-b is you always have 2c-b around the house. And there are so many situations which are improved greatly by the application of a bit of 2c-b.  :)

i have over 10  .20milligram capsules recieved from mahakala

have been waiting a while to try these out....

...should i 'test' one .20mg capsule sober or coming down off a molly trip?

and how is the over all feel...because i dont want my girlfriend to freak the fuck out like a bad mushroom trip.

thanks for any input/advice!!

Mahakala's 2c-b is excellent stuff - and he is also a great person and a fantastic vendor. (Full disclosure: the 2c-b in the Grand Wizard's Lair comes from Mahakala).   I find it to be an entirely pleasant experience with a warm fuzzy body feel and a nicely trippy but not too intense headspace.  While I don't find it as visual as 2c-b or 2c-t-7, I've definitely had some great CEVs and OEVs on 2c-b.

20mg oral should be a fine first dose.  I'd try it sober for your first experience just to get a feel for the substance.  But a dose of 2c-b coming down from MDMA has been highly recommended by none other than Alexander Shulgin himself... so that should be a good situation.  I wouldn't be too worried about your girlfriend freaking out on 20mg, but if you are concerned you could give her a lesser amount i.e. 1/2 or 2/3 of a capsule.

i am thinking of letting two people (guy/girl) let this be their first experience 'tripping' (well the visual part)
they only know mdma!
is this a good idea?  :)

I'd say 2c-b is the most gentle and benevolent of the phenethylamines and should be an excellent introduction for people who already have some experience with Molly.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: tonedef on July 13, 2012, 02:23 am
thanks oh Grand Wizard :D
guess i will let them have 20 mg each or just a little less.
would it be better to mix it in a drink or parachute (in a piece of blunt paper) it? will be powder so no caps
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: sickboy on July 13, 2012, 07:45 am
I know these guys who sniffed 70MGs of 2C-B by accident the first time they tried it and still love 2C-B. For me 2C-B has entirely replaced MDMA. No come-down. No hangover the next day. Plus: awesome visuals.

Try plugging it. You will never go back.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: flyinghigh1660 on July 13, 2012, 08:11 am
I got 20mg caps from Mahakala.

They were very good, I took one sober last night and wow. Much nicer than molly, bit of nausea on the come up, but clear head space. Visuals were great I just sat on my balcony watching the clouds, sun and leaves.

I live in the attic space of a house, below me are a family with 2 three year old twin girls. They saw me and laughed and kept shouting "monsieur ,monsieur ,monsieur " I live in a frenchspeaking country. I had a conversation with them and their grandparents, and my French is rubbish. I was able to focus on chatting without too many problems. This was still fairly early on in the trip.

Music was just sublime, listening to anything with lots of layers in it Shpongle etc was out of this world. I turned on the visualizer for iTunes and got lost in that for 30 minutes.

No comedown, no hangover.

The only down side is I really wanted to have sex with my missus, but A she wasn't in and B she is not into drug taking anymore. Apparently  we have to stop once we reach our 30's  ::)

I would say take a lowish dose, sober, be in a comfortable space. You will have a blast, not saying that you will get the same effects as me. But don't hang out too near the threshold dose, I find that uncomfortable, all the come up effects without the benefits.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: flyinghigh1660 on July 13, 2012, 08:17 am
I know these guys who sniffed 70MGs of 2C-B by accident the first time they tried it and still love 2C-B. For me 2C-B has entirely replaced MDMA. No come-down. No hangover the next day. Plus: awesome visuals.

Try plugging it. You will never go back.

I am there with you on that one, I had Molly again for the firs time in a couple of years a month ago. I like it but on the comedown I realized why I stopped taking it. Weed makes it easier but I still feel shit and crashed out.

Plugging is something I am thinking about. I thought about doing a 20% Isopropyl alcohol/water solution at 1-1 (50mg to 50ml) then starting out with 10ml. Sound like a plan?
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: sickboy on July 13, 2012, 09:37 am
No need for alcohol. 2C-B HCL will disolve in plain water. It will take some stirring but it will disolve. 2C-B HBr will almost instantly disolve. It is slightly less potent by weight though.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: Kappacino on July 13, 2012, 05:35 pm
I'd go for 40mg 2c-b for your first time. It's worth it, and isn't anywhere near intense.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 13, 2012, 05:59 pm
I'd go for 40mg 2c-b for your first time. It's worth it, and isn't anywhere near intense.

I'd go with 20 for a first time: everyone's body chemistry is different, and it could well be that 20mg does everything he needs it to do and more.  40mg would probably be OK, but it's much more likely that he'd end up vomiting or getting in over his head.  It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as doubling up on a dose of i.e. 2c-e, but moderation is always a virtue.  And since he has over 10 capsules, he'll have a chance to take a bigger dose if 20 doesn't hit his sweet spot.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: tonedef on July 13, 2012, 06:32 pm
yeah 20 mg sounds right, should be relaxed for a first time
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 13, 2012, 06:48 pm
yeah, probably gonna just drop it on its own with a buddy, test the waters


then use it on a massive molly roll at a sick festival and drop 2c-b on the come down
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: skibler on July 13, 2012, 10:48 pm
Hopefully gonna try it for the first time on the comedown of a roll. Hopefully wont make it suck to baad.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 14, 2012, 06:09 pm
so me and my buddy dropped 20mg yesterday


it was so fucking relaxing and pleasant...slight visual..cool breathing but a very uplifting feeling....intense giggles and a very carousel like up and down of it coming back and forth.....1st hour was hilariously hard to walk..then it was VERY controllable.

i was soo close to snorting another 10mg....and i kept saying we should maybe add 5mg or 10mg more next trip..but again, VERY relaxing and fun.

i hope that is kinda what people expect?  let me know..definently going to do it again soon...any input on spacing this drug? harms? etc?

thanks guys
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: flyinghigh1660 on July 14, 2012, 10:08 pm
I took 20Mg last night, up from the 15mg I did first time round.

Wow what a fucking drug.

We popped around 4 in the afternoon, left work and went into the center of the city. Slight visuals but great feeling of connectedness with all around me. But especially my mate, we were like fucking the borg. It felt like my forehead was trying to break out of my skull though. So much extra cognitive ability. I could take everything in and assess exactly what I needed to say to someone to keep them engaged in conversation.

We took a hit of weed about 2hours in and that took it to another level again. Colours so bright and clear, food tasted great!

On the metro home I started listening to Shpongle on my ipod. That was mind blowing and another wave hit me.

Would like to do some more to get better visuals. How long should I wait now, is tolerance a big thing with 2C-B? 
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 14, 2012, 11:28 pm
flyinghigh soooo true on your take about conversation!

its like painting a picture of something...so amazing


i need to know the same thing regarding spacing apart and neurotoxicity.   cant wait to molly then 2cb on the comedown
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 15, 2012, 02:53 am
Snorted 20mg of Mahakala's latest about 90 minutes ago: I'm just coherent enough to sit in front of a computer now.  Holy. Shit.  Have fun but remember, moderation is key.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 15, 2012, 05:33 am
r u fucking serious? thats hilarious!

about 8 hours ago i snorted 10mg and it WARPED me right into la la land.

very tolerable and again, enjoyable. 2cb seriously is a very forgiving drug. thats the best way i can say it

p.s   i smoked changa midway through it tonight and had a fucking breakthrough (a first) 


no words can describe what it felt and what i saw. all i know is, im finally fearless from smoking dmt and letting it show me the way. UN fucking BELIEVABLE
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: OG1973 on July 15, 2012, 01:42 pm
Looking to try 2C-B for the first time soon. Plan is to combine with MDMA and as suggested take the 2C-B at the tail end of the MDMA.

What i am hoping to achieve i guess is taking things to another place and hopefully feeling a heighten body experience. Getting euphoria, added emotional connectivity and a sexual intimacy with the wife is what i am looking for. Being able to explore each other and connect and converse on another level. Being able to have a clearer mind as well.

From reading about 2C-B on erowid and looking at the effects and description, that is exactly what i hope for. Never done any form of a psychedelic before and not after anything to extreme, just some mild visuals would be nice. Brighter colours etc.

Thinking of maybe a 10mg dose would be good for starters, what would you guys think ? Being a first time using this drug do you think i could achieve what i want out off it ?

Should i have any other concerns or take any precautions ? Appreciate the help  :D

Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 15, 2012, 03:17 pm
r u fucking serious? thats hilarious!

about 8 hours ago i snorted 10mg and it WARPED me right into la la land.

very tolerable and again, enjoyable. 2cb seriously is a very forgiving drug. thats the best way i can say it

p.s   i smoked change midway through it tonight and had a fucking breakthrough (a first) 


no words can describe what it felt and what i saw. all i know is, im finally fearless from smoking dmt and letting it show me the way. UN fucking BELIEVABLE

If you got this from me or from Mahakala I can say conclusively that this is one seriously strong batch of 2c-b.  25mg up the nose had the Grand Wizard's psyche folded, spindled and mutilated: I haven't tripped that hard in a long time.  I would advise dosing conservatively with this batch. It's really good stuff but it definitely packs a wallop.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: Gibbroni on July 15, 2012, 03:20 pm
I have had about ten trips on Ivory's 2cb to date, having never had any prior experience with the substance before SR.  All I can say is, what a wonder it is!  To think a drug could be so many things in one, with relatively few negative side effects when dosed appropriately.

Last weekend I had my best 2cb trip to date.  I took around 40mg with 4 friends and just hung out in a suburban park at midnight.  Out of all my trips so far, my favourite ones are the higher dosed ones (30mg at least).  When I dose higher the visuals increase greatly in strength and clarity. There's lots of slow-motion frame effect on moving things like trees, curtains etc.  Also, I love the whirling colour impressions of pink and green hues, especially when the wind blew at night!  Also, the other night when we were in a park staring into the moon-lit clouds, a fully realised illustration of a highly detailed oil-painting jumped out at me.  Kind of like seeing mayan symbols on my bathroom wall on 25i.... except up until this point I didn't think 2cb was capable of that extra depth.  It continues to delight and surprise me.

As for how much I would recommend newcomers dose, it really all comes down to your comfort level with new things.  If you've gotten as far as being on SR, I would take a guess and say that you're probably good to at least dose 30mg straight up (obviously this doesn't apply to everyone), as 2cb certainly is most forgiving (of 2c's anyway).  I have never insufflated 2cb however, not sure I really want to either... Snorting mdma is bad enough for me! lol

Whereas on low dose 2cb I can stare at a greek cyclops mythology painting on wikipedia and space out and see the picture expand and shrink, while feeling a nice body high, I don't experience more than this on a low dose.

Ogg^^^ If I were you I would do it the first time by itself.  That way you get a chance to space molly use out, and honestly 2cb is so much in itself that I would want to experience it by itself first.  I've yet to try this combination, but everyone says it's legendary!  I would just advise you do the 2cb by itself, and dose a bit higher and I'm sure you wont be disappointed.  I've had up to 45ish mg, and not once did I feel overly confused, or like things could get scary at all.  But hey, everyone's different.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 15, 2012, 03:23 pm
this was bought from mahakala


i only snorted half the capsule had a mild anxiety inducing rush...controllable due to my buddy who kept me cool..lasted bought 5-10minutes then i was soaring from the blast off...good thing was it didnt last as long as oral..but i know for a fact orally is the way to go

but again, being so clear, and smoking DMT (Changa) on it was SO. FUCKING. INCREDIBLE.


i had my body lifted, entering a bright city, i replied to the creature "yes..take me" and all i saw and felt was so indescribable that as i was coming back i kept saying (or yelling ) "i wont remember! i wont remember this! my body cant take this in"

opening my eyes, my sister said i did not move or say a thing....and that was my breakthrough. beautifully incomprehensible
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: Gibbroni on July 15, 2012, 03:44 pm
Yeah.  I really gotta get on dat shiz.  DMTIZZLE!
damn minimum wage/lack of bitcoin woes
But seriously, yeah, i'm sure I can use a bit more mental preparation and a few more milder trips before venturing into DMT. I look forward to that day!  Last I looked trojan and dimitri looked good! It's great to hear about breakthrough experiences.
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: flyinghigh1660 on July 15, 2012, 04:56 pm
Thinking of maybe a 10mg dose would be good for starters, what would you guys think ? Being a first time using this drug do you think i could achieve what i want out off it ?

Should i have any other concerns or take any precautions ? Appreciate the help  :D

I would do the 2C-B in its own first, as a noob advice. Also I took around 14mg the first time, nice warm, but not outstanding pushing to 20 mg with a  friend gave a really nice trip for my second time.

Put a 1-2 mg on your tongue first, to see if you have any averse reaction to it. Then go for the 15-20mg range, I like to start low on new drugs. But hanging out around threshold levels is never comfortable for me.

Up to you though to gauge unemotionally where you think your limit is. I found the body load on 20mg to be overwhelming in terms of the intensity sometimes, lucky that it came in waves. But I need to up the dose to get to a level where I get decent visuals with the headspace.

Still plugging next, too much of a wimp to inhale it.

Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: OG1973 on July 16, 2012, 09:18 am
Alright so perhaps i take the advice and maybe try this drug on it's own first, maybe 15mg just to sus things out.

Will keep reading this thread and read up on other trip reports but so far from what i hear 2C-B could become a wonderful experience  :)
Title: Re: First time 2C-t-7
Post by: lledd on July 21, 2012, 11:49 am
 8)got my free sample took 25mg and 1 hour later my eyes wus rollin back in my head awesome trip thanks GrandWizardsLair ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: First time 2C-t-7
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 21, 2012, 03:33 pm
8)got my free sample took 25mg and 1 hour later my eyes wus rollin back in my head awesome trip thanks GrandWizardsLair ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Always glad to be of service!

Did you try the blue cap (2c-t-7) yet? I think I sent one of those along as well. I'm trying to get more feedback on the t-7.  Personally I like it a lot - it's got the best visuals of any 2c-* I've tried to date. But it's a lot less forgiving than 2c-b dosage-wise and a lot more idiosyncratic.  (Some people will get incapacitated off a 10mg oral dose of t-7 while others will barely feel 50).  And it mixes very poorly with MDMA and can kill you if you snort it, so I can see why it has a limited market. But I can also see why Shulgin named it and 2c-b among the "magical half dozen."
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: sselevol on July 21, 2012, 05:52 pm
I've got 10 caps on the way from Mahakala :) very very excited for my first time  on it after reading this thread. Thanks for sharing all this information!
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: OG1973 on July 23, 2012, 10:35 am
To all who has taken 2c-b after the mdma peak is winding down, can i ask...

What differences have you felt as opposed to taking it on it's own ? And have you found you needed to take more or the same dose when combining than opposed to on it's own ?
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: StickAFinger on July 24, 2012, 04:09 am
its an amazing experience on its own, but holy fuck is it TURBO AWESOME as u come down from molly


just do both!  try it on its own first. like i did a few weeks ago then do it on molly..like i did 2 days ago  ;D
Title: Re: First time 2C-B
Post by: peek on July 25, 2012, 02:27 am
Hmmm looks like I'll be ordering some 2c-b soon :)