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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: hagelslag on October 13, 2012, 08:34 am
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I have been doing some orders on silk road lately (7 succesfull transactions now :) ), buying my bitcoins via Intersango. However, to get money on my intersango account, I have to directly send money to Intersango from my bank account. i dont like this as it can be seen that i transferred money to intersango,
so is there a trusted way to buy bitcoins using paypal? you would greatly help me!
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Do you mean that somebody else can look into your bank account, not authority related but more like family?
If not, paypal is probably just as traceable. Unless it's possible to send money to a paypal account first and then forward it to another one which you use anonymously (is this even possible?).
You can buy btc off of other people which is generally not recommended.
Oh well, time to eat some bread with hagelslag and check this again later since I'm wondering if this is possible myself ;)
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I'm new here and soaking it all in. I would love to know if this is possible as well.
Thanks.
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Never ever use Paypal to buy Bitcoins!! Depending on which country you live in, look for a cash over the counter solution to buy your coins. That works best for the country I live in but if your from the U.S, there are other methods which may suit your needs. Just search the Forum for previous Threads covering this topic. While it's NOT illegal to currently purchase Bitcoins, the less potentially "Traceable" information you leave behind when making a Bitcoin purchase which could link you to things such as SR, the better off you'll be. :)
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Yeah it became clear after doing about 2 hours of forum reading why using paypal wouldn't be a good idea.
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Using paypal is asking to get jailed
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I have been doing some orders on silk road lately (7 succesfull transactions now :) ), buying my bitcoins via Intersango. However, to get money on my intersango account, I have to directly send money to Intersango from my bank account. i dont like this as it can be seen that i transferred money to intersango,
so is there a trusted way to buy bitcoins using paypal? you would greatly help me!
There are other options for purchasing bitcoins rather than Intersango + I wouldn't personally stick with the same method forever. I do not consider it safe.
I guess you are from the UK so I'll give you 2 verified and tested (by me) ways of getting BTC.
1- localbitcoins.com => Their escrow system is smart. The thing is that you have to have enough balls to meet strangers in person, I personally don't see how that can be a problem.
1- pureogkush => you get the bitcoins from him on the same day or the next but no more than that unless you are purchasing on Fridays + He is kind of sick as he sells 1 BTC 7.20 punds....
That was off topic.
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Don't buy BTC with paypal it's just plain stupid. Bitcoins are difficult to trace, not untraceable...
Hope this helps.
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i think bitinstant via cash deposits at the bank are even easier than those using moneygram at cvs/walmart etc
but if OP has been using intersango they are not likely going to be able use bitinstant due to my assumption of their location
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Before I started using Bitinstant, I purchased bitcoins via Paypal a couple of times through members on bitcointalk, ebay, and virwox but generally it's a really bad idea to do and is horrible in terms of staying anonymous...not to mention the high premium you pay for using Paypal....but I had just gotten off parole and felt untouchable :) in all seriousness though, please don't follow my bad example and find another way to purchase bitcoins.
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I have been doing some orders on silk road lately (7 succesfull transactions now :) ), buying my bitcoins via Intersango. However, to get money on my intersango account, I have to directly send money to Intersango from my bank account. i dont like this as it can be seen that i transferred money to intersango,
so is there a trusted way to buy bitcoins using paypal? you would greatly help me!
There are other options for purchasing bitcoins rather than Intersango + I wouldn't personally stick with the same method forever. I do not consider it safe.
I guess you are from the UK so I'll give you 2 verified and tested (by me) ways of getting BTC.
1- localbitcoins.com => Their escrow system is smart. The thing is that you have to have enough balls to meet strangers in person, I personally don't see how that can be a problem.
1- pureogkush => you get the bitcoins from him on the same day or the next but no more than that unless you are purchasing on Fridays + He is kind of sick as he sells 1 BTC 7.20 punds....
That was off topic.
ON:
Don't buy BTC with paypal it's just plain stupid. Bitcoins are difficult to trace, not untraceable...
Hope this helps.
How do you go about buying bitcoins from pureogkush? :)
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I have been doing some orders on silk road lately (7 succesfull transactions now :) ), buying my bitcoins via Intersango. However, to get money on my intersango account, I have to directly send money to Intersango from my bank account. i dont like this as it can be seen that i transferred money to intersango,
so is there a trusted way to buy bitcoins using paypal? you would greatly help me!
There are other options for purchasing bitcoins rather than Intersango + I wouldn't personally stick with the same method forever. I do not consider it safe.
I guess you are from the UK so I'll give you 2 verified and tested (by me) ways of getting BTC.
1- localbitcoins.com => Their escrow system is smart. The thing is that you have to have enough balls to meet strangers in person, I personally don't see how that can be a problem.
1- pureogkush => you get the bitcoins from him on the same day or the next but no more than that unless you are purchasing on Fridays + He is kind of sick as he sells 1 BTC 7.20 punds....
That was off topic.
ON:
Don't buy BTC with paypal it's just plain stupid. Bitcoins are difficult to trace, not untraceable...
Hope this helps.
How do you go about buying bitcoins from pureogkush? :)
Have a look as someone recently posted a warning that this vendor has gone "rogue". The rule of thumb is don't buy bitcoins from SR vendors. Too many risks and an easy way for you to loose your cash.
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ive finally got a new way of getting bitcoins if your in Uk or europe. ive done 2 successful transactions all in under an hour! the rates are pretty decent, no Id required, free sighnup. And thanks for the advice i nearly bought some of him! glad i didnt now! ;D
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How is getting coins with paypal different than making a bank wire transfer?
And also: how would they trace bitcoins to a bank or paypal account if you send the money from a to b,c,d,e,f-> then the anonymous sr wallet nr, while using different identities with tor all the time?
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Meh I can put some insight on this, Have I purschased bitcoins threw paypal yes. How much was it a very small amount to gamble online with. The problem with getting bitcoins threw paypal is this, one thing is that you have to send it as a gift. There is no if and buts about it. Secondly Paypal does not allow you to purschase online currency with there system. They freeze accounts they figure out whats going on. There are people on the btc forums still do it, but you have to get sort of active on the forum to allow it. And the rates are rediclous. Now how are you going to transfer funds with out having a card in your name, besides MP. Because with an MP you can get bitcoins off Sr. Bitcoins are not illegal and SR has a tumbler they go threw anyways which is why it takes along time to get them transfer to your sr account. Secondly there not going to trace the bitcoins, no one ever got arrest for buying bitcoins. So really its the drug charges you have to worry about.
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Ah, yeah good point. They freeze the account.
If they wouldn't (and there would be no fees) than I think of it as being the same as a bank wire transfer. Correct me if I'm wrong. Apologies if this has already been discussed.
Either way it doesnt matter because it's not really possible.
I don't really see the problem with bank wire transfers, besides getting rid of perhaps healthy paranoia. Buying bitcoins is legal and so is spending them, donating them, whatever. There are a trillion sites with addresses to send coins to. Yes ofcourse it would be a huge coincidence if you buy bitcoins and they find dope at customs who call the cops. Also if the dope is worth as much as those bitcoins. But then again, lots is way overpriced here so how would they figure that out? Trace it? What if you don't like being traced while only ordering legal stuff on non sr sites and use sites like bitfog? It's your privacy, your money and you can basically deny and make up anything, IF you don't start sweating and shaking, I think things will be fine.
I bet there are people being extorted to send btc's anonymously or whatever. And I also bet there are sick fucks out there who hate somebody so bad that they occasionally order drugs to their victims houses. And also that there are people who accept all mail, and throw away strange/drugs stuff in the garbage can, while somebody else knows about it and picks it out.
How in the hell would the garbage robber be busted? Or would they bust the ignorant guy who throws away the stuff? How are feds going to prove anything?