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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: emeraldwhite on June 26, 2012, 12:13 pm
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Starting up a new thread in response to tommyboy's earlier thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=26678.0 as I feel that thread isn't getting much attention and there's some users in the dark.
It appears orders to UKPharm from new users (who have also been told to FE) are not turning up as of about 4 weeks ago; This is incredibly annoying for new users especially as we don't have the safety net other users have or much (if any) forum presence, and we tend to be a anxious bunch.
Post your experiences here. Thanks. :)
- I'm not here to start trouble, I just want what I paid for!
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Same here. All users who haven't received should make sure and update their feedback so that other users are aware of his track record - he still has 98% which may be fair given that he seems to be serving other customers, but seems high given the volume of complaints on the previous thread.
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He has been unresponsive to me, 3 weeks since order UK to UK and 5 days in the resolution centre. Finally got a full refund today and an apology via PM. I didn't finalize early fortunately. I linked him to the other thread but he hasn't posted in there.
Looking at his feedback a few other guys also got refunds today so it's worth checking and maybe chasing him via PM?
Seems more likely he's just disorganized than a scammer but who knows? Will be using another vendor in future anyways.
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My suggestion was that we all go down to 1/5 until we either get orders or a refund. so many people n the same boat its clearly not a "lost in the mail" issue. Think i'll update the feedback now, with a note saying i'll put it back when i receive. Not even had any communication!
Come on ukpharm, lets see some of that reputation spread down to us newer guys!!
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hey guys another person here that has been waiting over two weeks. I've messaged the seller is there a consensus what we should do? I finalized early also. Also is there another seller that is matched to UKPharm. Feel so sad that it didn't come :(
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hes full of shit theres people waiting on refunds from 2/3 weeks ago and im one of them. seems to have enough time to get plenty of orders out to his new customers though. quite a lot of orders if you ask me.. but im just saying. update your feedback to 1/5 and message him for your money.
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This is beyond dodgy. There's about 20-25 people between this thread and the other one who haven't received their stuff.
And I'm sure plenty more who don't use the forum.
Now on their feedback there's people going on about mail staff going on holidays......yeah they all packed up and went off on hols together ::) ::)
If you are asked to FE by these guys don't do it, in fact don't order at all would be my advice.
I gave them 1 out of 5, I'll change it if I get a refund. Not holding my breath.
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only got half product >:( so changed after seeing this. I was then told other half went out start of week but still nothing
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only got half product >:( so changed after seeing this. I was then told other half went out start of week but still nothing
oh yeah im sure hes gonna blame the post office for that too. they mustve opened the package took half then resealed. anybody here received their refund yet? or is he gonna send that in the post too?
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I am yet another guy whos order dident show, he pm'd me and said the mail has been stolen intermittently over the last two weeks and he would make good on my order and give me a refund, i pm'd him back to says that ok just resend what i ordered, he asked for my address again which i gave him, its been a full week and still no post! i have messaged him i dont know how many times just asking him if it was sent or whats going on but he will not reply to me
this is my third order with him the first two got here no problem, i had to FE as i had under 5 buys, what should i do? i gave him 1/5 and told my story in the feedback but he wont reply to me or give a refund
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I'm just here to say that I also have not received a product from UKpharm. Ordered a last Tues night and messaged him a week later. He responded offering a refund/reship, to which I asked for a reship and guess what? Yet to turn up, no contact since.
Yet to finalise, so I guess I'm not completely up shit creek. Watching this thread to see if he responds!
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everyone whos waiting or been scammed contact sr and tell them so they take his listings down coz hes still getting FE now ,i ordered and it was in transit monday morning but hes not sent it it would of been here and i got other orders days ago ordered same time
does it fuck your refund rate even in these circumstances when sr know there not sending shit so really it shouldnt but i bet it does,
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i have had over 10 successful transactions with ukpharm but this was at the start when they first opened up shop some of my orders arrived in less than 24hrs and at the start the hash was qaulity.
then my last 2 orders i made bout 7-8wks ago now was sent totally different hash to what was ordered and nowhere near the qaulity of the same i hash he was claiming it to be, he did send me pretty much a 50% refund but i no longer order from them not after my last 2 orders and feel i got out just at the right time.
feel bad for all you people that aint even received anything, i dont really understand either because he was getting lots and lots of orders was over 300 in a matter of days, but who nos what problems or whatever that vendor has cause it dont make sense he like i say was selling shitloads....
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I have messaged silkroad support but i dont think they will be able to help me as ukpharm made me fe early, this guy is online everyday and wont respond to any message, there is no excuse for that, he is clearly scamming at this stage
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I have to agree with the sentiment here. I thought UKPharm is a professional vendor too. Alas he has proven us wrong. There are messages dated today from people who have received goods . So they are around, but dont answer messages from people who have not received anything!? For over two weeks! Strange isnt it? And there are also a lot of messages over the last two days from people who have not received what they ordered and FEed more than two weeks ago. I am another!!!
Honestly! If you cannot trust vendors like UKPharm who can you? Never FE! No matter what. Vendors be warned. We buyers will start a no FE campaign. Dont ask for it because you wont get any trade!
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I am yet another waiting on a my order. I got a message to say they will re ship on the 26th and to send a new addy. Then it falls silent again.
Is like teasing me when already messed me around no end.
Many things ring true in this thread though and I think this thread needs UK Pharm or a Silk Road Admin to comment.
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I second that motion somkinguk although when ukpharm wont reply to ANY message i think theres even a smaller chance he will comment here, we need a SR admin to advise
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Finally these guys are getting what they deserve, a feedback page full of 1 out of 5s.
Hopefully no1 else will order from these jokers when they see that.
Sorry to say I don't think anyone who FE'd (including me) is ever gonna see a refund.
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Yeah its just crazy they are ignoring messages like this. If it was an open market people like this would be laughed out the door. I thought one of the big selling points of the SR marketplace was to avoid the run around of street dealers.
I really think SR Admin need to take a further look into this situation and come in here and let us know whats occurring. Looks like alot of people have been stung here with no delivery and many orders are sent out incomplete even on a good day.
We should BUMP this thread so its on page one or two until we get a response from them.
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I didn't FE. So soon there will be some more negative feedback when I come to resolve this shit.
Sometime's reputable vendors can go astray. This kind of stuff is just going to happen every so often (think back to the infamous Tony) and there's fuck all you can do about it. Anonymity brings out the best and the worst in us!
Just got to accept a loss every now and again, and try to not FE all the time in future.
Love from Captain Hindsight.
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Having said that though, giving negative feedback is a great idea as it will prevent others being suckered by UKpharm!
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There is no excuse for what UKPharm is doing. They are obviously around every day and take new orders but dont reply to those they have scammed 3 weeks ago. If anyone has given him anything other than 1 in feedbacks they should go back and update it to 1 so that other users know about him.
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hey guys how do i change my feedback ???
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hey guys how do i change my feedback ???
Account >> View Feedback >> Edit.
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Beans is right we have to accept these losses on the chin. But let us not forget the lesson. Do not FE for whatever reason. Let the vendors learn they should not ask for FE.
A question for SR admins: how come UKPharm who has been failing to deliver for over 2 weeks on many orders and there are more than 8 feedbacks of 1/5 in his profile has still a ranking of 96?
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Last night it was 97.3% positive feedback, so i went and changed all my previous orders to 1, combined with the new page of 1 star ratings and hes down to 95.6. l0l.
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SR support said they are looking into him, so hats off to them cause it seems he needs a wake up call or a ban, pity really he was good at the start but you cant stop sending and not reply to anyone
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Just logged in and see all their listings have been taken down. Shady and a shame as at first a good vendor! :(
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Hurrrrah! SR support has suspended them until they pay their debt.
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Thanks SR! at least nobody else will be ripped off, i hope he does pay his debt but i think he would of already done that if he was serious about staying a vendor
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Hurrrrah! SR support has suspended them until they pay their debt.
Did support confirm this? The seller could have just pulled their listings due to the bad feedback.
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I have two orders still processing with UKPharm. If they are suspended, will i have to wait until the cancel option appears in a few days or will the orders be canceled automatically?
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Hurrrrah! SR support has suspended them until they pay their debt.
Did support confirm this? The seller could have just pulled their listings due to the bad feedback.
If you go to ukpharms user page, it goes straight to the PM screen, which means he's been reduced to a normal user account until he repays his debts
I've had a few good transactions with UKpharm, then over 4/20 had one that didn't arrive for a month. He was slow at replying but in the end I did get a full reship.
However I ordered two types of hash, and I received the exact same hash labelled differently. I didn't complain because it wasn't a very big order but still, it seems to echo the sentiment here that there's been some dodgy behaviour.
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My second order on SR was from UKPharm - early June. I finalised early as requested. 2.5 weeks later it hadn't arrived (was UK->UK)... so sent a message asking them to confirm that it had shipped. I got a message back with an explanation and offering my a refund or another strain. I chose the other strain. That package arrived 2 days later (about 1 week ago)- and was properly packaged and overweight.
I don't think UKPharm suddenly decided to scam... based on the explanation I was given I think they tried to recover from what happened (hence my query being dealt with - and getting a replacement) and got swamped. However, I have no inside info - just what they told me. I'm only reporting what happened with me.
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That's good you got sorted out man. They way things have turned out now though they might just cut their losses and not refund the rest of us.
They haven't even opened the last message I sent them never mind sent a response.
How would refunds even work for people who FE'd? You can't use the resolution center so would they just send it direct to your SR wallet?
I'd hate to have my stats fucked up over this since I'm just passing the 5 transactions and I don't want to FE ever again tbh.
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Just gone through the resolution centre to try and claw back my BTC. I've demanded a 100% refund, although, like Frimbarr, I'd much prefer product as my transaction record is impeccable thus far!
I would tend to agree with Selwro, if UKpharm was gona do a "Tony" on us then he would have demanded FE from everyone for the few weeks before he bailed (he didn't for me). Perhaps UKpharm just had some IRL problems or the operation just got too big too quickly? Whatever happened, it doesn't really matter now.
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Wow so this is still going on, huh?
I've been out of commission since the Gold Seal thread a few odd days ago, but I've been logging on every so often to check my PMs.
UKPharm only bothered to PM me once, and he gave me the same shite about going through the resolution centre, even though he asked me to FE early. Urgh.
I got some bulk PM about the post being stolen, but I took that with a pinch of salt. Was that actually true?
Anyway. I'm glad you lot finally caught on and suspended him. I won't be ordering from him again, tbh. He obviously doesn't understand the importance of new business at all.
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That's good you got sorted out man. They way things have turned out now though they might just cut their losses and not refund the rest of us.
They haven't even opened the last message I sent them never mind sent a response.
How would refunds even work for people who FE'd? You can't use the resolution center so would they just send it direct to your SR wallet?
I'd hate to have my stats fucked up over this since I'm just passing the 5 transactions and I don't want to FE ever again tbh.
He probably started off with good intentions for the 5 or so minutes it took to write that "i will refund everyone" message. Then he probably thought ah fuck it i'll ride it out, and spent the next few days ignoring messages, taking more FE orders, and smoking the extra weed he never sent out. Im never ordering from this guy again and I had intended to before, but if hes not willing to spend a couple hours clearing his debts then whats the point in doing business, not to mention the bizarre stories. If weed was not turning up then you can blame that on posties to a degree, but sending out half orders? The fuck? Deserves his limited account status, glad SR staff sorted it out eventually
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Wow so this is still going on, huh?
I've been out of commission since the Gold Seal thread a few odd days ago, but I've been logging on every so often to check my PMs.
UKPharm only bothered to PM me once, and he gave me the same shite about going through the resolution centre, even though he asked me to FE early. Urgh.
I got some bulk PM about the post being stolen, but I took that with a pinch of salt. Was that actually true?
Anyway. I'm glad you lot finally caught on and suspended him. I won't be ordering from him again, tbh. He obviously doesn't understand the importance of new business at all.
Gotta say good on tommyboy who started the original thread about this. If that wasn't made we wouldn't have known so many orders were missing and looking at the feedback page before we all dropped 1/5s on there you would think ukpharm were the best to happen to weed since the discovery of fire.
That's the good about this place, customers have some power at least....not something you usually see in the drug world.
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Iv ordered from them regularly and they have always delivered, the last order was sent out a week late. I had plenty of communication from them and a good explanation as to what had caused there issues, i know were not meant to discuss security arrangements but did anybody else notice something about there parcels? (Iv not seen this with anybody else).
There was the story in the times online about SR and it mentioned them by name, made me very cautious after that.
Incidentally the last bag of weed i got from them was not as stealthy as the others, i could smell the herb through the package.
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Iv ordered from them regularly and they have always delivered, the last order was sent out a week late. I had plenty of communication from them and a good explanation as to what had caused there issues, i know were not meant to discuss security arrangements but did anybody else notice something about there parcels? (Iv not seen this with anybody else).
There was the story in the times online about SR and it mentioned them by name, made me very cautious after that.
Incidentally the last bag of weed i got from them was not as stealthy as the others, i could smell the herb through the package.
what the fuck? now im tripping balls
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Iv ordered from them regularly and they have always delivered, the last order was sent out a week late. I had plenty of communication from them and a good explanation as to what had caused there issues, i know were not meant to discuss security arrangements but did anybody else notice something about there parcels? (Iv not seen this with anybody else).
There was the story in the times online about SR and it mentioned them by name, made me very cautious after that.
Incidentally the last bag of weed i got from them was not as stealthy as the others, i could smell the herb through the package.
hmm...ya mean the ink stamp over the postage stamp stating where it was processed...at a certain mail centre? or you talking about something different?
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Hi! Just PM'd UKpharm; my sticky-icky hasn't arrived after a week. I FE'd early due to less than 5 transactions. Sucks. Will notify y'all when/if I get PM'd back. BTW; would really like some decent smoke in UK. Byeee :)
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Hi! Just PM'd UKpharm; my sticky-icky hasn't arrived after a week. I FE'd early due to less than 5 transactions. Sucks. Will notify y'all when/if I get PM'd back. BTW; would really like some decent smoke in UK. Byeee :)
i'l sort you out a gram, if you lick my sticky-icky anus.
peace
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I just got my refund! :) Through the resolution centre. Am really happy the SR works well like this as the worst case scenario happened there and I have been reimbursed. Shame it had to come to that as wanted the hash.
I am still owed ££ that they shorted me on a prev order that has long been finalised. Reading this thread it looks like going short on orders was the norm for sometime. Let me guess when you PM them they say would you like it as a 'Bonus' on your next order?? A bonus i already paid for? then never send it with the next order. etc etc.
good luck all
This something about the stamps can someone PM me if i am not meant to talk here. I think I know what you mean.
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Your lucky you got a refund most of us were forced into FE, i still have not received no reply to pm's or got any refund
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Never had a problem with UKPharm - last order was stolen by someone at their end, the order was resent and arrived the next day.
I've ordered from them 5/6 times, weight was always good, the smoke was generally very good but not as good as they thought it was ...
Only gripe is that they are too expensive but if you get next day delivery it's a fair trade off.
I have no affiliation with them just someone who wants good hash and weed - and finds it on SR!!
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Yo, I just got my refund as well. Big up to the ' Road for making this happen!
Where can I donate a coin?!
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...and they didn't even put my refund rate up! saaaaaaaaaaaafe!
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Just like to add another user to the list - had a few previous transactions with UKPharm, always super-quick delivery and good stuff, but last order didn't turn up - no response to messages or anything.
Thanks to SR staffers for full refund :)
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Yo, I just got my refund as well. Big up to the ' Road for making this happen!
Nice one. Hopefully they can do something for those of us that FE'd.
I've got the PM from them saying I would get a refund so maybe that will help.
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Yo, I just got my refund as well. Big up to the ' Road for making this happen!
Nice one. Hopefully they can do something for those of us that FE'd.
I've got the PM from them saying I would get a refund so maybe that will help.
doubt it dude he said that to everyone. way more people havent received than have.
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Yo, I just got my refund as well. Big up to the ' Road for making this happen!
Nice one. Hopefully they can do something for those of us that FE'd.
I've got the PM from them saying I would get a refund so maybe that will help.
Anybody have an idea how many didn't get their stuff? I know most people don't use the forum.
Anyway I got a delivery from Spanishfly this morning so not too bothered about the refund.
doubt it dude he said that to everyone. way more people havent received than have.
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still waiting for that refund ::)
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Me too. it was alot of work and bother getting them bitcoins for that cunt to steal now am broke and smokless
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I really should list my shit on here
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Been watching these threads about ukpharm for a while n finally forced to comment cos I'm so p***** off.
My first transaction with ukpharm for 25btc, no delivery after 3 weeks, only replied to a couple of pm's promising refund but no refund so far, doubt it's ever gonna happen now that he's blacklisted by sr support. What a complete scam, the guy's been luring ppl in with good service then stealing or losing early fe orders here and there to increase profit margins.
So now this brand new vendor has shown up uk>uk called AlbaPharmacy, I'm 90% sure it's the same b*****d, he's enforcing registered post and early finalization on all orders.
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Been watching these threads about ukpharm for a while n finally forced to comment cos I'm so p***** off.
My first transaction with ukpharm for 25btc, no delivery after 3 weeks, only replied to a couple of pm's promising refund but no refund so far, doubt it's ever gonna happen now that he's blacklisted by sr support. What a complete scam, the guy's been luring ppl in with good service then stealing or losing early fe orders here and there to increase profit margins.
So now this brand new vendor has shown up uk>uk called AlbaPharmacy, I'm 90% sure it's the same b*****d, he's enforcing registered post and early finalization on all orders.
As soon as I saw alba pharmacy, I thought of UK Pharm. The listings are written the same way, but trying to be different. Even signs the listings as "team alba". Well, anyone who dealt with UKPharm knows they used a similar sig - "Team UKPharm".
UKPharm were always great for me. Usually 24 hours delivery. It wasn't until a couple of weeks before their demise that I had problems. I ordered 8g of yellow pollen, and the next day I ordered an extra 2g as I had spare BTC and wanted a real good Friday night ;) Well, the 8g didn't turn up (nor did the 2g). I gave it a few more days and still nothing. So I message them and got a reply within 24hours asking for my transaction number and also explaining they had a thief there end. 2 days later, I got my 8g. My 2g never turned up, but the awesome SR staff refunded me without me even having to ask.
I'd beware buying from alba pharmacy, because like bl4z3r, I really do believe it's UK Pharm. The final nail in their coffin for me was the "NO ESCROW". It was just so obvious!
IMO alba pharmacy = UKPharm. Buy at your own risk.
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Yeah it looks like the same crowd. The profile looks very similar and the prices are still high.
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Yeah it looks like the same crowd. The profile looks very similar and the prices are still high.
can the right people do something to get it blacklisted? i dont want this guy around... cant believe some people. id order to see if the packaging is the same but he knows the address.
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Can they be made to honour ukpharms lost transaxctoins or can anyone tell me where to complain to get my bitcoin/ product back??
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UKPHARM were my first order, got bitcoins especially for them, felt I learned the ropes, had to FE due to first timer, and now feel like the biggest robbed fool in the world.
I been on other sites and forums and so far never been scammed. Forgive my language but I am so f**ked off right now
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Sounds a bit hit n' miss
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Wow, UK Pharm were my got to guys for Afghan gold seal - but with news here and bad reviews on the Afghan I am wary to order.
In fact till this is sorted out I'm sitting on the sidelines
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UKPHARM were my first order, got bitcoins especially for them, felt I learned the ropes, had to FE due to first timer, and now feel like the biggest robbed fool in the world.
I been on other sites and forums and so far never been scammed. Forgive my language but I am so f**ked off right now
If it's any consolation, you're no bigger a fool than those who now FE early according to their new rules, regardless of your stats. I liked UKPharm, but fuck FE with my stats. They're obviously setting up for another big scam.
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UKPHARM were my first order, got bitcoins especially for them, felt I learned the ropes, had to FE due to first timer, and now feel like the biggest robbed fool in the world.
I been on other sites and forums and so far never been scammed. Forgive my language but I am so f**ked off right now
If it's any consolation, you're no bigger a fool than those who now FE early according to their new rules, regardless of your stats. I liked UKPharm, but fuck FE with my stats. They're obviously setting up for another big scam.
you say it like hes still here, unless you think hes someone else too
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you say it like hes still here, unless you think hes someone else too
Yes, I and a few other believe that Alba Pharmacy are UKPharm. They turned up not long after UKPharm went down and they listed in almost the same way, and made it clear you had to FE regardless of stats. They even signed their listings the same.
UKPharm's - Team UKPharm
Alba Pharmacy's - Team Alba Pharmacy.
Even if we're wrong and they're not UKPharm, Alba Pharmacy seem very suss in the way they've operated from the beginning. Either way, I wouldn't risk buying from Alba Pharmacy. Shame 'cause they do have some nice listings. Seems people are getting their gear successfully though... for now..
I hope we're wrong and they turn out to be a decent honest vendor after a year on her. Would hate to think of the money people would lose if they scammed at their peak.
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you say it like hes still here, unless you think hes someone else too
Yes, I and a few other believe that Alba Pharmacy are UKPharm. They turned up not long after UKPharm went down and they listed in almost the same way, and made it clear you had to FE regardless of stats. They even signed their listings the same.
UKPharm's - Team UKPharm
Alba Pharmacy's - Team Alba Pharmacy.
Even if we're wrong and they're not UKPharm, Alba Pharmacy seem very suss in the way they've operated from the beginning. Either way, I wouldn't risk buying from Alba Pharmacy. Shame 'cause they do have some nice listings. Seems people are getting their gear successfully though... for now..
I hope we're wrong and they turn out to be a decent honest vendor after a year on her. Would hate to think of the money people would lose if they scammed at their peak.
Hi there!
Yeah, we posted up on the 19th of July asking about all this confusion and we got no reply :/.
We've had 137 transactions now.. hopefully that's enough to clear the name :]
Any questions are welcome!!
p.s. we've been so busy the past month we've not been on the forums so let us know if anyone is doubting whether to buy from us or not and we'll be sure to put your mind at rest.
Regards,
Ap.