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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: metropolitancow on April 01, 2012, 12:07 pm
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Didn't think this qualified as an [intel] post but I spent some time looking in legislation and was finding it a pain to get clear definition on my States' personal usage amounts. I stumbled across this review paper, current as of Aug 2011, and it contains a lot of relevant information so I thought I'd share. People need to be aware that the implications for prosecutions above these amounts scale sharply, and regulate their purchases accordingly. Note also the differences between pure amount thresholds and total. And man oh man is Tas whack!
http://www.dpmp.unsw.edu.au/DPMPWeb.nsf/resources/BULLETIN4/$file/DPMP+Bulletin+18+updated.pdf
Table 1: Thresholds for trafficable quantities of heroin, cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine and MDMA, by drug type and jurisdiction
1 Based on pure drug (excluding inert material).
Jurisdiction: Heroin Cocaine Amphetamine Meth-amphetamine MDMA
Vic1: 3g 3g 3g 3g 3g
Qld1 2g 2g 2g 2g 2g
ACT1 2g 2g 2g 2g 0.5
Tas 25g 25g 25g 25g 25g
NSW 3g 3g 3g 3g 0.75
SA 2g 2g 2g 2g 0.5g
WA 2g 2g 2g 2g 2g
NT 2g 2g 2g 2g 0.5g
Table 2 covers cannabis but I cbf formatting it, read the paper.
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I should probably lay off those 3.5g meth orders...
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Fuck you Tasmania, that is ridiculous.
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I read a few articles in the newspaper today talking about how we have lost the war on drugs in Australia. It Looks like most other states will be moving in the same direction as Tassie at some point...
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NSW 0.75g threshold for MDMA is derisory and out of touch with the risk and the product itself.
Essentially its sending the message that its safer legally to possess, use and deal Heroin. tut tut.
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Well fuck now I'm scared to order.
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Well in WA is definitely 4g for Meth
since Cousins got arrested with 4,5 in
his butholio at the airport on the way to rehab.
And he was going to get done as dealer because
it was over 4g .
Geeze Tas seems the place to be...
Peace
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I'm fucking moving to tassie!
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Yeah i got arrested at Esperance Airport on the way to rehab with 3.5 grams in the shaft and there trying to charge me with trafficking!
Cunts
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Yeah i got arrested at Esperance Airport on the way to rehab with 3.5 grams in the shaft and there trying to charge me with trafficking!
Cunts
Really? I wouldn't worry about that mate...
If you really are Ben Cousins (ROFL) I'd be more concerned with growing some brains!
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Cheers for the info MetroCow 8) I'd +1 ya if i could :P
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Thanks for this information metro, very helpful.
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Thanks a lot mate, I am booking my tickets to Tasmania as we speak :P
But seriously this is a good info and would be of interest to many people on here +1
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Didn't think this qualified as an [intel] post but I spent some time looking in legislation and was finding it a pain to get clear definition on my States' personal usage amounts. I stumbled across this review paper, current as of Aug 2011, and it contains a lot of relevant information so I thought I'd share. People need to be aware that the implications for prosecutions above these amounts scale sharply, and regulate their purchases accordingly. Note also the differences between pure amount thresholds and total. And man oh man is Tas whack!
http://www.dpmp.unsw.edu.au/DPMPWeb.nsf/resources/BULLETIN4/$file/DPMP+Bulletin+18+updated.pdf
Table 1: Thresholds for trafficable quantities of heroin, cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine and MDMA, by drug type and jurisdiction
1 Based on pure drug (excluding inert material).
Jurisdiction: Heroin Cocaine Amphetamine Meth-amphetamine MDMA
Vic1: 3g 3g 3g 3g 3g
Qld1 2g 2g 2g 2g 2g
ACT1 2g 2g 2g 2g 0.5
Tas 25g 25g 25g 25g 25g
NSW 3g 3g 3g 3g 0.75
SA 2g 2g 2g 2g 0.5g
WA 2g 2g 2g 2g 2g
NT 2g 2g 2g 2g 0.5g
Table 2 covers cannabis but I cbf formatting it, read the paper.
I can't speak for other states, but for Vic as I understand it, the 3g for MDMA is for both pure and mixed amounts because of Table 3 in Schedule 11 of the Act. There's 2 columns, which the Law Handbook says the second column is for 'mixed' amounts even though both columns say 'pure' underneath them. I guess this just stops lengthy arguments when the amount is near the edge.
According to the Law Handbook, drugs in powder form are no longer weighed in pure amounts. The relevant weight is now the weight of the whole mixture, including substances other than the drug. This table shows the traffickable quantities of common drugs (from the legislation):
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I'm not sure, but I'm assuming the 0.75 'small' amount - anything under this won't result in any sort of conviction? i.e. they have some no-conviction-drug-diversion program thing to stop small users having their lives ruined by a drug conviction.
The 3g does not automatically mean you get a conviction for trafficking - it means a prima facie case so that the burden of proof shifts to you to show that you had no intention to traffic.
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Cheers for the updated info LeisureLass, could save some people in Vic some major legal headaches
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I updated my update to give more info. But IANAL, so don't count on my research ::) Hope it helps a bit though. I have a feeling they deliberately make the rules confusing or maybe it's just my drug addled brain but the legislation is a bitch to read. :o
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because every paragraph is contradicted by another halfway down the page.
need to be a methhead to keep up with that shit + all the amendments ::)
So you'd be right up to date and waiting for more info huh?
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because every paragraph is contradicted by another halfway down the page.
need to be a methhead to keep up with that shit + all the amendments ::)
haha so true
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Yeah i got arrested at Esperance Airport on the way to rehab with 3.5 grams in the shaft and there trying to charge me with trafficking!
Cunts
So when's your next book coming out? ::)
Soon. It's going to be Titled "Rehabs for Quitters"
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I think there's a lonely dude, sitting on his PC, trolling the forums as people he wishes he was...
Julia Gillard & Ben Cousins = Same person, with serious identity issues.
If I'm wrong, fair enough, but my spidey senses are tingling...
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I think there's a lonely dude, sitting on his PC, trolling the forums as people he wishes he was...
Julia Gillard & Ben Cousins = Same person, with serious identity issues.
If I'm wrong, fair enough, but my spidey senses are tingling...
lol your wrong
or maybe im saying that to make you think i am to put you off the trail ;)
anyway i dont see why you would think im trolling
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I think there's a lonely dude, sitting on his PC, trolling the forums as people he wishes he was...
Julia Gillard & Ben Cousins = Same person, with serious identity issues.
If I'm wrong, fair enough, but my spidey senses are tingling...
lol your wrong
or maybe im saying that to make you think i am to put you off the trail ;)
anyway i dont see why you would think im trolling
Stop this right now. >:(
I'm quite happy fantasising you are the real Benny. With the real Benny's abs. Looking all cut and bad boy and Benny and stuff.
Oops. Sorry. Just me? ::)
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I think Jims fantasizing about Julia
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Gillard is here? This i gotta see! I can understand Ben 'the meth vacuum' Cousins being here, but Goolard :o Haha no wonder she's so fucked up! I swear that cunt's on heroin!
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Well I am absolutely pleased that you all find me so amusing and I'm being spoken of less than 24 hours of becoming a member, but let me just clarify something by stating I have NO affiliation with the above 'BenCousins'. I'm sure Ben has his own agendas for being here, but they are separate from mine. Please keep offensive language to a minimal where possible, thank you.
Weather, Canberra, TODAY:
Rain, 2-10'C, rug up!
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Well I am absolutely pleased that you all find me so amusing and I'm being spoken of less than 24 hours of becoming a member, but let me just clarify something by stating I have NO affiliation with the above 'BenCousins'. I'm sure Ben has his own agendas for being here, but they are separate from mine. Please keep offensive language to a minimal where possible, thank you.
Weather, Canberra, TODAY:
Rain, 2-10'C, rug up!
Julia when are you going to decriminalise drugs so that i can have a couple of pipes in rehab without being vilified?
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Thanks
Anyone have any info on magic mushroom laws?
Can never seem to find info on them.
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Gone to hell... Thank fuck for the Ignore button!!!
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The day came months ago when I had that reciprocal bullshit barrage from Zigger and The Terrapin... Just can't bring myself to ignore Shitty or Phoffy... Too much amusement to be had!
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Unsure, but I think it becomes a federal when you're traffiking across borders... Shit-tits should know, he just got out of a 3 year stint in Goulburn, for moving 50k disco beans from brisbane to melbourne by rickshaw!
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YAY... I got something right!!!!
PARTY!!! I'm shouting cones!!
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only $800 fine and no conviction if you try selling shardz in rehab. pipe time!
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^ Love your Moniker Dude, only Aussie footy fans would get into in....I lol every time I see it "launch into and annihilate as much drugs as i can"
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Found the link for any foreigners looking in on this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GFrLVK0OQ
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Seriously though does anyone know the how much LSD one would have to import into any AUS state to be considered a commercial trafficker?.....Can't seem to find info anywhere.....
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Tas 25g 25g 25g 25g 25g
Tasmania, lol.
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only $800 fine and no conviction if you try selling shardz in rehab. pipe time!
were you listening to a lot of 2pac when you decided to get that such is life tatt?
nah mate Ned Kelly was on tv after a big 4 nights on the go so i though "fuck cunt, inspirational stuff"
Im off to tassie
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there daughters will love me. they aint ever seen a body like this with just one head
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Good idea maybe it open up i can hide drugs in there. Sure beats stuicking it up me arse again.....and they still found it. Cant a man just have a 5 day bender in peace