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Title: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: MetaD13 on July 30, 2012, 04:59 pm
I've looked on other websites and read other reports, but many of them are vague or just don't make sense. I'm wondering what type of experiences you guys on here have had with this drug. Also, how similar would you say it is to LSD?


I've never heard of this drug before getting on SR, and I've asked friends about it and none of them know anything about it either.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: TheAbsurd on July 30, 2012, 05:33 pm
Search for 25c-NBOMe or HardHustle on this forum and you'll see a couple of threads about this substance... as well as trip reports specifically about the 25c-NBOMe sold on SR. Erowid should help you as well.

For me, it was a strange mixture of LSD/Mushrooms(not as chaotic)/DMT. One of the members here had an extremely enlightening trip but he took a high dose.

I think 25i-NBOMe is more like LSD than 25c-NBOMe, so you might want to wait for HardHustle to start selling 25i again (supposedly today, but there could be delays, who knows my friend).

All in all, LSD is a very unique substance that can't be replaced, but that's not to say the NBOMes aren't fucking awesome. They just seem to be more clearheaded (still a mindfuck).
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: l1llykins on July 30, 2012, 10:09 pm
25c makes CEV's look like what you would see through a kaleidescope at first glance and then fractal off. OEV's are more flowing ... looking at still scenery can seem like someone is taking a paintbrush and is gently stroking the canvas everywhere but the canvas keeps reverting back to it's original form. Still trees and bushes look like they are rustling, etc. When looking at something busy like a rough carpet, it will come together in swirly patterns. Look at your skin and you'll end up with henna patterns all over.

Every once in a while a color would dominate the visual spectrum. I'm not sure if it's mood or what but I remember there being little light in the room and all of a sudden I'm seeing these lines of purple light running through everything like tiny circuits moving in swirly patterns. While fooling around with hubby, he became covered in light circuits of green.

After the come-up, the visuals start to mellow out and a body euphoria starts to settle in which builds up for a few hours. If you redose in 3 hours, you get a nice dose of both euphoria and visuals.

I never had LSD so I can't say how similar it is. 25i is more emotional than visual, though it will make everything you see feel like you're seeing it for the first time (there's a sense of awe and wonder).

What are you looking for exactly? Visuals? Fun? Euphoria?
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: Drewington3258 on July 31, 2012, 09:46 am
All I have to contribute is that 25i is definietly 80% emotion and about 20% visuals. I dont even notice the visuals unless I actually stare at a surface.

Anyone who tells you that they had mad visuals on 2mg or less is probably full of shit.

When people say LSD ис тхе голд стандард оф псыцхделицс тхеы меан иф
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: moopsr on July 31, 2012, 04:50 pm
All I have to contribute is that 25i is definietly 80% emotion and about 20% visuals. I dont even notice the visuals unless I actually stare at a surface.

Anyone who tells you that they had mad visuals on 2mg or less is probably full of shit.

When people say LSD ис тхе голд стандард оф псыцхделицс тхеы меан иф
Well, I had mad visuals from snorting 600μg 25i-NBOMe and even madder with 900μg. It was much more visual than the 2 tabs of LSD i took.
The trees on the woods turned out like magical trees and the leafs on the woods turned into snakes. A friend of mine saw insects everywhere and another friend told that he felt like we were walking on a huge snake. Sometimes I couldn't tell whether I was standing or laying down on the floor and could only be helped by the memory.
Strangely, none of us were afraid of anything and we kept going through the pitch dark woods where there were no living souls to help us case something went wrong, completely fearless we just wanted to keep on walking.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: MetaD13 on July 31, 2012, 05:06 pm
25c makes CEV's look like what you would see through a kaleidescope at first glance and then fractal off. OEV's are more flowing ... looking at still scenery can seem like someone is taking a paintbrush and is gently stroking the canvas everywhere but the canvas keeps reverting back to it's original form. Still trees and bushes look like they are rustling, etc. When looking at something busy like a rough carpet, it will come together in swirly patterns. Look at your skin and you'll end up with henna patterns all over.

Every once in a while a color would dominate the visual spectrum. I'm not sure if it's mood or what but I remember there being little light in the room and all of a sudden I'm seeing these lines of purple light running through everything like tiny circuits moving in swirly patterns. While fooling around with hubby, he became covered in light circuits of green.

After the come-up, the visuals start to mellow out and a body euphoria starts to settle in which builds up for a few hours. If you redose in 3 hours, you get a nice dose of both euphoria and visuals.

I never had LSD so I can't say how similar it is. 25i is more emotional than visual, though it will make everything you see feel like you're seeing it for the first time (there's a sense of awe and wonder).

What are you looking for exactly? Visuals? Fun? Euphoria?

So you're saying that 25c is more visual than 25i? Thats good to hear, I'm mainly interested in visuals/euphoria, not really looking for some life changing emotional experience lol. That's a common misconception about LSD in my opinion, many people proclaim it to be some life changing spiritual drug, which can turn a lot of people away. Not saying that it isn't, because large acid doses can indeed cause life altering experiences. Although, I've taken LSD many times just to have some fun, and its given me some damn good times!
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: l1llykins on July 31, 2012, 06:26 pm
For euphoria, it's 25c and 25d. They both start off very visual in the beginning (and pretty similar at that). They also both kind of die down (or maybe just not as noticeable) when the euphoria kicks in. 25c has a steady stream of euphoria that builds for a few hours and then slowly dies down for the next few hours. 25d comes in rolls, very intense and can plateau for a about 30-ish seconds before settling back down to a calm buzz of bliss. To each their own, I have a nice supply of each that I alternate around over the months, hehe. If you're planning to have sex, definitely 25d!

25b is the most visual except it doesn't come with any euphoria. The visuals are very unique, kind of reminds me of the swirly goodness you get with 2c-b though more lively and it has more flow: everything is filled with vibrant technicolor life. Hearing, taste, and overall mood is also heightened ... It's the kind of thing that makes movies jump out of the screen and into your head.

25b is a unique sensory experience. 25c is more responsive to music. 25d is very responsive to touch. 25i makes you happy and giggly. I haven't tried 25g yet .. must try that one next!
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: TheAbsurd on July 31, 2012, 06:54 pm
25b is a unique sensory experience. 25c is more responsive to music. 25d is very responsive to touch. 25i makes you happy and giggly. I haven't tried 25g yet .. must try that one next!
+1 for the awesome descriptions.

I noticed 25i is incredibly spiritual and you become very aware of karma. These are just my interpretations so take it as you wish.

I went pretty deep with 25c but I didn't exactly have a spiritual experience. I had a fun time making music for a while.

Gonna try 25b as soon as HH puts it up. I heard 25b has more bodyload and is more stimmy, but honestly there's hardly any info on it so it could've been just that person. Is it true it has more bodyload?
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: l1llykins on July 31, 2012, 07:02 pm
Yeah the come-up on 25b was pretty harsh but I didn't preload at all.

Try preloading with some magnesium and drammamine.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: MetaD13 on July 31, 2012, 09:09 pm
For euphoria, it's 25c and 25d. They both start off very visual in the beginning (and pretty similar at that). They also both kind of die down (or maybe just not as noticeable) when the euphoria kicks in. 25c has a steady stream of euphoria that builds for a few hours and then slowly dies down for the next few hours. 25d comes in rolls, very intense and can plateau for a about 30-ish seconds before settling back down to a calm buzz of bliss. To each their own, I have a nice supply of each that I alternate around over the months, hehe. If you're planning to have sex, definitely 25d!

25b is the most visual except it doesn't come with any euphoria. The visuals are very unique, kind of reminds me of the swirly goodness you get with 2c-b though more lively and it has more flow: everything is filled with vibrant technicolor life. Hearing, taste, and overall mood is also heightened ... It's the kind of thing that makes movies jump out of the screen and into your head.

25b is a unique sensory experience. 25c is more responsive to music. 25d is very responsive to touch. 25i makes you happy and giggly. I haven't tried 25g yet .. must try that one next!

Thanks for the awesome replies man! Do you have any dosage advice? I've got tabs with 500 mcg on them, should I take 1 or 2 for my first time?
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: moopsr on July 31, 2012, 09:26 pm
Take only one, man. It's a rather unknown substance and you'd better play it safe.

There are plenty of favorable trip reports for both 25i and 25c on erowid, but I remember reading some complete train wrecks.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: TheAbsurd on July 31, 2012, 09:38 pm
Yeah, I'd recommend only starting out with "one" dose. These are research chemicals you're dealing with, and most of the research is actually being done by us.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: l1llykins on July 31, 2012, 09:41 pm
Yeah, start with 500ug of 25c. And if you're prone to nausea, preload with some drammamine.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: MetaD13 on July 31, 2012, 11:26 pm
Okay, thanks for all the info guys! I'll stick to one tab and check back in a couple days to give a trip report.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: beric on August 01, 2012, 08:48 pm
Has anyone had 25i and 25c at the same time, or a few hours apart? If so what was it like, would you recommend it?
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: l1llykins on August 01, 2012, 09:03 pm
25i would be the best to combine with all other tabs because of the mood boost, I'd basically expect a funner version of the others. 25c can be a little disorienting at times (it's far more trippy) so I imagine the 25i would keep you more level on that end.

Make sure to take them separately first as some have issues with vasoconstriction. And as it would be more unpredictable when combining, take smaller doses of each when doing so.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: moopsr on August 01, 2012, 09:32 pm
I noticed that after I used my second dose of 25i (900micrograms, insufflated) , I became extremely sleep for the next few days.
I took it last Friday and I'm still sleepy today. Fortunately I'm on my vacations so I can just lay down and relax. Two friends who also took it reported to be more relaxed the following days.

Have any of you noticed the same thing?
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: cockadoodledoo on August 04, 2012, 03:39 am
hello!  could use some advice. . . Anyone take higher doses.?

I would consider myself a fairly experienced tripper.  LSD at least 50 times and dozens with mushroom sessions. Other less common psychedelics also,  but never any RC's. I just ordered 3 600ug tabs of 25c-nbome that i plan on sharing with my brother. Does anyone think 900ug per person would be overkill?

I love to trip hard and have never had a "bad trip",  but I don't want things to get out of control and have no idea what to expect.  From what i gather,  it is a more manageable psychedelic mentally and is more based on visuals. I have also read it described as a 'cleaner' psychedelic,  with less stress physically put on your body.  This is what making me curious about taking 1 1/2 tabs

 I also bought some 5meo-dalt i plan on taking around when  i peak.  Does anyone think any of this is a bad idea? I would love to hear any of the negative aspects or side effects of 25c-nbome.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: l1llykins on August 04, 2012, 05:00 am
Does anyone think 900ug per person would be overkill?

As long as you're in a good mindspace when you start you should be good. As for negative aspects, I once took "too much" and the euphoria was uncomfortably intense, made it not pleasurable and I had to take some time to myself and come down a bit before I could enjoy my hubby that night.

I don't know about adding the dalt though, never tried it myself.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: MetaD13 on August 07, 2012, 01:16 am
Is 600ug a good dose for a first timer? Its on blotter tab.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: TheAbsurd on August 07, 2012, 01:27 am
I would personally say yes, but if you want to play it safe then just take half. 25c isn't disorienting or a total mindfuck. Just don't smoke too much weed or it will get very intense.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: iCaNsee on August 08, 2012, 06:18 am
I've had 3 experiences with 25C-NBOMe, as I bought 2 sheets on the streets :)

2 experiences with 2 tab dosing (.14-.20)

-experienced strong CEV's
-Breathing walls & geometric patterns (OEVS)
-mostly clearheaded and functioning (went to work dosed and held my own) :O

a 10 tab dose

-was too beautiful visually to describe
-visuals far surpassed 5 tab LSD trips (good L)
-mentally pretty amazing feeling, still not as much of a mindfuck as LSD at this dose would be
-great body high with both different doses (energetic)
-functioning well on this dose aswell


10 tab dose was life changing and I cant begin to describe its beauty.  (Had no idea visuals of this complexity and beauty were possible) :)))

cheers
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: iCaNsee on August 08, 2012, 06:19 am
Music is also enhanced nicely, aswell as mood.  8 ish hr duration, for both the smaller and larger doses tested.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: hashmat on August 24, 2012, 02:39 am
Just got my 25-c from Cozmo this morning.
 I'm aabout 120kg, male.
I took around 60=mg diazepam around 8:30-9:00
Tehn 10 mg Etizolam.
 Now somwhere in therebetween 8:00 and 10:00 I put a 25-c in my gum, which easy for me.
Being a longterm meth/H user my teeth are fucked & have a denture for my front teeth.
Ok back to it, I just stuck a blotter between my fake front tooth & gum, it litearlly stuck there.
Here's the stickler:
Its about 12:30(daytime), and just prior to logginh on to write of my experience, I put another one in.(dunno if it was wise)
Upon typing, i swear the keyboard isnt flat, i have to ...like hit the centre keys...t,h,y,e,f,around an inch above what i would expect, and
looking at the page, reading the threads, the top letters are begginning to drift upwards, like they wanna leave the page man.
Oh i forgot part of my case study, I Had a 100mg hit of #3 with citric acid, and been sucking grapefruirt juice all morn, starting about 7am
back soon
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: harryanslinger on August 24, 2012, 11:05 pm
I've never done it on its own, though I've given it to people who used it on its own. I had one of RedHempfield's 600 microgram tabs with 25 mg of 4-aco-DMT. It was one of the most pleasantly visual trips I've ever had. Things were normal while walking, but when I slowed down everything started to swirl and distort. I felt an overwhelming contentment to the point where I sat on a rock and just enjoyed my surroundings in silence for about an hour. Combines very well with amyls.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: hashmat on August 27, 2012, 09:29 am
Ohhh, man, i didnt even think of going outside, in here was enough.
I never made it back did I? I lost my USb, for days , so couldnt use TOR,
ive just improvised for now..
But I had another that night, with a bit of pot(i dont smoke pot more than twice a year).
Had a shot of Mdone about 70/80mg?
that was interesting, these nbomes are a discovery for me.
I havent had a downer since then either, been pretty happy/content.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: jhancock1984 on August 30, 2012, 05:40 pm
I'm about to order some 25c for my wife and I to try.  Neither of us are experienced with it and she's inexperienced with psychedelics as a whole (I ate a lot of LSD in the 90s and mushrooms in the 00s but haven't doesed in about 3 years).  I've narrowed it down to two vendors, graffenburg and hardhustle.

Has anyone tried both products that could help me decide who to order from?  They both look good.  My wife gets nauseous on opiates so that may be something to take into consideration.  I also prefer discreet packaging.  Preferably without a handwritten label (one of graffenburg's reviews said the label was hand-written).  Am I being overly paranoid in this regard?

Also does anyone have any experience taking this on SSRIs?  If the effect is diminished that's fine but I'm more concerned about things like Serotonin Poisoning.  She's also taking wellbutrin (Bupropion).  Google search didn't turn up much on 25c interactions with either of these chemicals (a bit for the zoloft but really nothing for wellburtin).
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: MiddleLeftNostril on August 31, 2012, 12:07 am
I'm about to order some 25c for my wife and I to try.  Neither of us are experienced with it and she's inexperienced with psychedelics as a whole (I ate a lot of LSD in the 90s and mushrooms in the 00s but haven't doesed in about 3 years).  I've narrowed it down to two vendors, graffenburg and hardhustle.

Has anyone tried both products that could help me decide who to order from?  They both look good.  My wife gets nauseous on opiates so that may be something to take into consideration.  I also prefer discreet packaging.  Preferably without a handwritten label (one of graffenburg's reviews said the label was hand-written).  Am I being overly paranoid in this regard?

Also does anyone have any experience taking this on SSRIs?  If the effect is diminished that's fine but I'm more concerned about things like Serotonin Poisoning.  She's also taking wellbutrin (Bupropion).  Google search didn't turn up much on 25c interactions with either of these chemicals (a bit for the zoloft but really nothing for wellburtin).

The US government really doesn't care about 99.99999% of mail.  Graffenburg is allegedly giving double what they ordered to some customers, and at a higher potency (750ug vs 600 ug), but I should have my tabs tomorrow or the day after, and I've taken HardHustle's before, so give me a day or two and I'll send you my review of them.

I imagine the NBOME's and SSRI's mixing like the 2C-X's, which seems to be a chance for seizures.  Considering that these are new chemicals, I wouldn't risk it.

Consider asking your wife if she's interested in getting off Wellbutrin and attempting to manage her psychological issues using nootropics, supplements, meditation, and self-exploration.  If it works for her, though, she just can't trip due to all psychedelics not mixing with drugs that lower the seizure threshold of those who take them.

EDIT: typed girlfriend, meant wife, lol
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: jhancock1984 on August 31, 2012, 01:51 am
I ended up going with graffenburg, mostly due to the price point but also because hh seemed to be a bit behind on his orders.  What can I say, I'm an impatient bastard.

As to my wife, she puts a lot of faith in her psychiatrist (and her meds).  We've had some (heated) discussions about SSRIs.  Research I've done suggests they're mostly a placebo effect, which isn't to say they're ineffective.  Placebo is damn good at dealing with depression.  I'm also not much of a fan of big pharma.  Which is to say, I don't see her ever getting off SSRIs.

Thanks for the heads up on seizure risk.  I'll have to do some more internet research on the subject.

This will be my first time taking 25c though, so I'm still looking forward to your thoughts on quality as I have nothing to compare too  ;)
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: TheAbsurd on August 31, 2012, 02:17 am
Actually graffenburg sent the wrong order to someone and ended up getting 25 extra tabs, and someone else got half their order. All was resolved though. Either way, graffenburg seems like the go-to guy right now but I personally haven't ordered from him.
Title: Re: 25c-NBOMe effects?
Post by: anonemuss2012 on August 31, 2012, 04:14 am
I'm about to order some 25c for my wife and I to try.  Neither of us are experienced with it and she's inexperienced with psychedelics as a whole (I ate a lot of LSD in the 90s and mushrooms in the 00s but haven't doesed in about 3 years).  I've narrowed it down to two vendors, graffenburg and hardhustle.

Has anyone tried both products that could help me decide who to order from?  They both look good.  My wife gets nauseous on opiates so that may be something to take into consideration.  I also prefer discreet packaging.  Preferably without a handwritten label (one of graffenburg's reviews said the label was hand-written).  Am I being overly paranoid in this regard?

Also does anyone have any experience taking this on SSRIs?  If the effect is diminished that's fine but I'm more concerned about things like Serotonin Poisoning.  She's also taking wellbutrin (Bupropion).  Google search didn't turn up much on 25c interactions with either of these chemicals (a bit for the zoloft but really nothing for wellburtin).

Actually graffenburg sent the wrong order to someone and ended up getting 25 extra tabs, and someone else got half their order. All was resolved though. Either way, graffenburg seems like the go-to guy right now but I personally haven't ordered from him.

yeah, guilty as charged  ::)  i was the one who ordered 25 but was sent 50 tabs. i don't know anything about this hardhustle and his service, but i can say that graffenburg was a major pleasure to work with. i live out in the sticks, but still, my tabs came in 3 business days. CRAZY fast shipping. i would recommend wholeheartedly. be careful with the tabs, though... i am an experienced acidhead, but one of these 25c tabs from graffenburg really knocked me on my ass in terms of intensity of visual hallucinations. fucking insane. it was like jumping headfirst into the peak of a decent-sized acid trip and not being able to come back up for air for a good couple of hours. but like others have mentioned, it was a clearheaded trip. while the visuals were themselves insane, i was able to think clearly, while if i were tripping on a large dose of L, i might have had some trouble talking at some points lol.

happy tripping! 8)