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Title: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 01:11 am
I haven't had school for the last two days, and have stayed up for two days straight. I got another 5 hours of school work ahead of me, leaving with 11 hours before I have to turn all this stuff in at school. So what do I do? should I risk going to sleep in five hours, when there's a good chance I'll oversleep, or is Adderall powerful enough to get me through this night and the next day? I've heard conflicting parties, one tell me you'll crash at 50 hours, another said you can stay awake with Adderall until you die.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 01:17 am
Ironic how this thread is right next to my one asking where drug use becomes a problem.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Ben on June 06, 2012, 01:21 am
How long does it actually take to die taking aderall to stay awake before you die?

Staying awake for 50 hours is somewhat problematic: It's not likely to kill you, but i doubt you will function very well after being awake that long. Perhaps grabbig a couple of hours of sleep would be a good idea, even if it it less then 5.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Reece on June 06, 2012, 01:26 am
I say get a few hour nap, set plenty of alarms, wake up and take the Adderall.
That's the safest.

Unsafe would be to stay up and take the Adderall. Never went days on end with it, yet I personally can't see crashing on it.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: libertyfreedom92 on June 06, 2012, 01:26 am
If you take another smartie without sleeping, I'm pretty sure your heart will explode.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 01:27 am
How long does it actually take to die taking aderall to stay awake before you die?

Staying awake for 50 hours is somewhat problematic: It's not likely to kill you, but i doubt you will function very well after being awake that long. Perhaps grabbig a couple of hours of sleep would be a good idea, even if it it less then 5.
I'm pretty sure its the sleep deprivation, not the Adderall itself that kills you. And I've heard you're getting dangerously lethal staying awake past ten days.



Anyways, that's my problem. If I start sleeping, I really don't think my body is going to want to get up anytime soon. Perhaps I could set my alarm clock for 5 hours afterwards, wait til the adderall wears off, then take some caffiene and get to sleep before the caffiene kicks in. Could that work?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: sdesu on June 06, 2012, 01:30 am
I usually take some adderall, take a nap for about an hour, then wake up ready to work.

Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 01:33 am
If it'd be dangerous to take adderall through the next 24 hours, could it safe to change the substance itself? I got 3oz of pure caffiene.


I say get a few hour nap, set plenty of alarms, wake up and take the Adderall.
That's the safest.

Fuck, If only it wasn't still in my system. Hell, I don;t even think the Chemistry work is going to let me go to sleep.

I usually take some adderall, take a nap for about an hour, then wake up ready to work.


I usually take some adderall, take a nap for about an hour, then wake up ready to work.




Is that with the same reasoning that it kicks in mid sleep, and you're all good to go when you wake up?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 01:46 am
Also, while this thread on the topic of adderall, earlier, doing homework and listening to A7X, my went numb and felt tingly as all hell. The fuck's that about?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: sdesu on June 06, 2012, 01:58 am
It's because of vasoconstriction.
There is less blood flow near the surface of the skin, so the limbs become cooler, and may be numb/tingly.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 02:24 am
I've been there done that.

First and foremost:  STAY AWAY ROM THE CAFFEINE!!!  At this point it will only make the bad side effects of the adderall more apparent and you WILL crash/nod. Your best bet at this point is to just try and stay awake. After binging on adderall for that long your body will simply not be happy with 5 hours rest and you will, in all likeliness, sleep straight though any alarm unless you have some fancy rube-goldberg machine that bangs on a frying pan directly above your head until you wake up.
Even if the alarm does wake you up. you will most likely fall back asleep as soon as you hit the snooze button.

If I were you, I would start preparing a scheduled ration of adderall (1/4 - 1/2 a pill) that your gonna take every 30-90 minutes until you can sleep.And MAYBE take 100mg of caffeine at the end to make it through the last hour of school.

as for the numbness, It's normal on a stimulant binge. I find that doing so super slow/light yoga stretches help with it a lot.


Good Luck
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 02:29 am
I've been there done that.

First and foremost:  STAY AWAY ROM THE CAFFEINE!!!  At this point it will only make the bad side effects of the adderall more apparent and you WILL crash/nod. Your best bet at this point is to just try and stay awake. After binging on adderall for that long your body will simply not be happy with 5 hours rest and you will, in all likeliness, sleep straight though any alarm unless you have some fancy rube-goldberg machine that bangs on a frying pan directly above your head until you wake up.
Even if the alarm does wake you up. you will most likely fall back asleep as soon as you hit the snooze button.

If I were you, I would start preparing a scheduled ration of adderall (1/4 - 1/2 a pill) that your gonna take every 30-90 minutes until you can sleep.And MAYBE take 100mg of caffeine at the end to make it through the last hour of school.

as for the numbness, It's normal on a stimulant binge. I find that doing so super slow/light yoga stretches help with it a lot.


Good Luck

+1...... what the fuck am I supposed to do when there's no CP button?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Meister on June 06, 2012, 01:09 pm
This perhaps is just me, but on adderall I tend to have trouble going to sleep, but it's easier for me to wake up and even on weekends I wake up earlier than I would have if I hadn't taken my pill the day before. LSD/Shrooms are the same way for me, trouble going to sleep the night I trip but seem to wake up earlier than I wanted to.

If I were you, I'd go to sleep for however long you can and have someone (or 2 if your friends are as useless as mine) who knows the situation and will make sure you're up on time, even if you have to crash at a friends place.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 06, 2012, 01:16 pm
LSD/Shrooms are the same way for me, trouble going to sleep the night I trip but seem to wake up earlier than I wanted to.

I think this is true of all drugs, I get this when I take MDMA.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 01:20 pm

+1...... what the fuck am I supposed to do when there's no CP button?

If your taking about the Karma button. That doesn't appear until you reach 100 posts.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Reece on June 06, 2012, 02:33 pm
How did this go for you?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 02:47 pm
Ahh. I did it. At this point, I've been awake for 72 hours, havent eaten in 48, I feel almost an electric shock in my right elbow when I quickly extend it, and my coordination is about on Par with the first plataeu of DXM. Everything went better than expected.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 02:49 pm
Almost forgot to note the interesting tid bit of scraping off nearly everyone of my taste buds against my teeth over the course of the night.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 03:46 pm
yea....that can happen. Glad to see my advice worked out for ya. Care to share some details about the experience?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 06, 2012, 04:36 pm
yea....that can happen. Glad to see my advice worked out for ya. Care to share some details about the experience?

Well certainly after it's over. I still got school today and then there's the crash from three days of not sleeping or eating.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Meister on June 06, 2012, 05:47 pm
yea....that can happen. Glad to see my advice worked out for ya. Care to share some details about the experience?

Well certainly after it's over. I still got school today and then there's the crash from three days of not sleeping or eating.

Hope it goes in that order lol
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 07, 2012, 02:24 am
Well I seemed to get enough out of the experience that i decided to make such a thing. However, I just happened to be on adderall when I made the list. And, well jotting a few ideas down onto a paper became a bit more than that. So perhaps you people could read it? (located in off topic)


So anyways. I still have to come down off of this stuff. Considering I haven't eaten or slept in about 80 hours, what can i expect this to be like and what is there anything i could do to prepare for it?
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: weedsaves on June 07, 2012, 09:58 am
I did the same damn thing years ago when I first got my hands on some XRs. Those things can be brutal.

You shocked your brain with amph and you are probably depleted of dopamine. I took me a few days to feel back to normal when I did this. Felt like a zombie for awhile. I would recommend taking a 5-HTP supplement once in the morning and once before bed. Smoke plenty of weed if you have the resources. There is a thread somewhere here in drug safety about safely using methamphetamine (which turns out is not much different than the d-amphetamine which you took) that cites research finding that cannabis lowers the neurotoxicity of amphetamines. Couldn't hurt in your case and will at least take some of the edge off and stimulate your appetite hopefully.

You are also probably dehydrated. Drink plenty of water. Even better, drink an energy drink or some coconut water to replenish electrolytes. Eat bananas for potassium and more hydration.

Hang in there brother. I wanted to off myself after that 3rd day with no sleep. You will be back to normal soon enough and this will be a good story to tell your friends about. Oh yeah, lay off the adderall for a few weeks to let your brain catch up. Hope this helps, let us know how it goes. Peace and love.


Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: wtfrack on June 07, 2012, 10:18 am
Ive gone on an adderall binge before.. It was around finals time and I couldn't sleep for 3 days. I got in a nasty pattern of taking adderall late at night to finish schoolwork, and then would toss and turn all night, then get up in the morning with zero sleep whatsoever, and I'd feel so tired that I'd need more adderall just to make it through the day. The process continued until I crashed hard on the 3rd day right after my exam. It was horrible. I was slightly hallucinating from the lack of sleep.

And I notice that if you're sleep deprived, adderall won't help with your focus. It still has the stimulation effect where you can't sleep, but it was not helping me focus on my schoolwork. So it works best when your well rested. Learned my lesson and I dose more accordingly now. I'll still have insomnia now and then but I won't redose past noon the next day.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 07, 2012, 10:48 am
Best thing you can do to lessen the crash (aside from sleep) is to eat the most epic breakfast in the world when you wake up (Not McDonalds or anything like that.) Something healthy and filling with lots of vitamins. If you ever saw that movie "Pleasantville" you know what I'm talking about. Flapjacks, french toast, hamsteak, eggs, biscuits and gravy, but don't forget some fresh fruit as well. and then after you take a little post-breakfast nap, you should be fine.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Delta11 on June 07, 2012, 07:27 pm
Three days without sleep? Whoa how do you guys do it haha, I did an adderall binge once but luckily I had xanax so I just took a bar and passed out and had the best sleep of my life. You still feel like crap the next day though because your brain is recovering but I suggest taking multi-vitamins and eat lots of frutis/veggies and of course drink lots of water. I still think drinking a bunch of alcohol is the worst comedown, at least for me. The next day I can't do anything but lay down and hate my life. I would recommend getting xanax or some type of benzo to help with any type of stimulant binge.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: bynter on June 07, 2012, 09:43 pm
Ten hours of sleep and only like a bagel and some chili(which gave me stomach ache and in took some pepto bismo). How that suffices to keep me functional, i have no idea. I was also really anxious last night, wouldve taken some loraxepam but i was sleeping fasr enough anyways. Right now, I'm in sort of a lethargic state. When I think of things i could do to make me happy, absolutely nothing comes to mind.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 07, 2012, 11:54 pm
Yea. You just got the typical seritonin/dopamine depletion. the best thing is a multivitamin, some 5-htp and maybe some dopa if you could get it (the only dopamine precursor I can think of at the time). and try to eat some more, especially fruit. you'll be alright in a day or two.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: sdesu on June 08, 2012, 03:51 am
Yea. You just got the typical seritonin/dopamine depletion. the best thing is a multivitamin, some 5-htp and maybe some dopa if you could get it (the only dopamine precursor I can think of at the time). and try to eat some more, especially fruit. you'll be alright in a day or two.

Levodopa (L-DOPA) is the precursor for dopamine - or any catecholamine, really - Catecholamine biosynthesis pathway, ftw.

sdesu
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 08, 2012, 04:12 am
Oh yea. Couldn't think of the name off hand. definitely usefull to keep stuff like that hand if your into stimulants. Both for preloading and post-loading.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: Ben on June 09, 2012, 01:40 am
Three days without sleep? Whoa how do you guys do it haha, I did an adderall binge once but luckily I had xanax so I just took a bar and passed out and had the best sleep of my life. You still feel like crap the next day though because your brain is recovering but I suggest taking multi-vitamins and eat lots of frutis/veggies and of course drink lots of water. I still think drinking a bunch of alcohol is the worst comedown, at least for me. The next day I can't do anything but lay down and hate my life. I would recommend getting xanax or some type of benzo to help with any type of stimulant binge.

If you skip 2 nights of sleep you'll be pretty fucked up, regardless of whatever you took to endure that.

I would simply suggest sleeping whenever you feel like it. Vitamins will not do you any good in such a situation. The problem is not skipping a night or two of sleep, its making up for that loss :)
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: PsilocybinTendencies on June 09, 2012, 02:54 am
Regarding how long one can stay awake on adderall, I'm kind of ashamed to admit this, but I did 7 days, one whole week awake.

I'm still alive. I think I may have permanently damaged myself but I'm not completely burnt-out retarded yet.

But it wasn't pretty.

What's scary is that I was in the same scenario as you. Partying, needed to get caught up on coursework. Everything just got the best of me.

By day seven I would be walking down the street. I'd look down and see static, like on a TV channel hooked up to an antenna that isn't getting reception. Making fractal-like formations. I must have looked like a complete mess. I was picking at NOTHING all over my arms and was starting to develop scabs in various visible places on my body. One person thought they were track marks.

For a long time after that I swore off adderall and meth. I felt shitty for days afterwards. The roof of my mouth burned when I tried to eat. I wanted to die.
Title: Re: Question about just how potent Adderall's sleep-deprivation.
Post by: gibson83 on June 10, 2012, 05:59 am
Ten hours of sleep and only like a bagel and some chili(which gave me stomach ache and in took some pepto bismo). How that suffices to keep me functional, i have no idea. I was also really anxious last night, wouldve taken some loraxepam but i was sleeping fasr enough anyways. Right now, I'm in sort of a lethargic state. When I think of things i could do to make me happy, absolutely nothing comes to mind.


How was the crash? I did something similar a week or two ago and I slept for almost a day..though I didn't eat.