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Title: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: NorCalKing on September 04, 2013, 03:58 pm
Just a simple non biased poll to see how far off the mark things may be!


NCK
Title: :)
Post by: maligan on September 04, 2013, 09:53 pm
E = mc2
This equation I can comprehend  .....


Title: Re: :)
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 04, 2013, 10:04 pm
E = mc2
This equation I can comprehend  .....
Yes, energy is equal to mass x the speed of lightening x the speed of lightening.
Title: Albert please help me out :)
Post by: maligan on September 04, 2013, 10:18 pm
F = -1/8 x A + 1

V = P x F

B = P x V x F

W = P x B x F

Is this a new type of PGP ?  I need the key !
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: MrJoshua on September 05, 2013, 02:42 am
Yikes, only 15% are voting yes?

There's another poll just like this out there and it's also hovering around 13% approval.

Is this a bit late though, I kinda got the impression that DPR had officially crossed 'feedback overhaul' off his to-do list.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: neplusultra on September 05, 2013, 02:54 am
F=M*A
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: Electric Paper on September 05, 2013, 05:47 am
I don't like it because I can't edit by rating and feed back for orders after the fact anymore. I always give a 5 when it shows up and I'll see how everything is and come back to the comment and rating. Now I can't seem to find where I do that. Did they remove this ability? It seems I can only delete comments and ratings at this point.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on September 05, 2013, 06:06 am
I don't like it because I can't edit by rating and feed back for orders after the fact anymore. I always give a 5 when it shows up and I'll see how everything is and come back to the comment and rating. Now I can't seem to find where I do that. Did they remove this ability? It seems I can only delete comments and ratings at this point.

There is a simple solution.  Don't rate the product until you have tested/tried the product.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: Remediless on September 05, 2013, 06:15 am
Yikes, only 15% are voting yes?

There's another poll just like this out there and it's also hovering around 13% approval.


People don't like change. It unsettles them. Any type of website overhaul always gets people whinging. Personally, I like that there's a discussion area and I like it in general. But give it a few months and everyone will have forgotten the old system and be whinging at DPR about something else. Personally, I've been happy as a veritable pig in poo since the day I discovered SR. DPR can tweak it to his heart's content, so long as I can order my drug of choice to my home (and there's some real créme de la créme on here) then he can do what he likes.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 10:51 am
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: NorthernStar on September 05, 2013, 11:03 am
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
You can understand his incredulity, I think producing top quality drugs to your door IS outstanding. 5/5
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 05, 2013, 11:09 am
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
You can understand his incredulity, I think producing top quality drugs to your door is outstanding. 5/5

No, it's just another transaction. Buyer wants to get high, seller wants to make money. It's not like this avenue of making cash without having to deal with whining dope pheens at your door and without the risk of getting stabbed or nabbed on the corner is some sort of humanitarian sacrificial effort were mere participation in the market warrants accolades.

5s should be reserved for those vendors that go the extra step, getting it to you a day earlier than you expected, packing it a bit stealthier than you expected and generally being nicer to deal with than you expected. How else would those that really stand out be rewarded for their extra effort if they get lumped in with everyone else that just so gets it done somehow...
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: Divo on September 05, 2013, 11:30 am

5s should be reserved for those vendors that go the extra step, getting it to you a day earlier than you expected, packing it a bit stealthier than you expected and generally being nicer to deal with than you expected. How else would those that really stand out be rewarded for their extra effort if they get lumped in with everyone else that just so gets it done somehow...

^^^ This.  +1 if I could.

Just as buyers are having to adjust to the new feedback system and determing through reviews and discussions who they wish to continue ordering from, vendors need to adjust as well and realize that a 5/5 just shouldn't be the expected norm under this new system.  If you're a top 1%-5% vendor, always provide outstanding customer service with quality product and fast shipping, then I can see expecting a 5/5 on all orders.  If you just get it done, take days to respond to messages, are slow on shipping but still get the described product to a buyer with decent stealth, then I see no reason why a 4/5, or if you're just an average vendor, a 3/5 should be insulting.  Not all the vendors I've dealth with on SR have been what I would call outstanding, but this historical trend of always expecting 5/5 ratings and blacklisting buyers who don't leave stellar feedback makes it really hard to differentiate between the truly outstanding vendors and the ones who just get it done.  In a few months, with this new system in place, you'll see a wider range of ratings and it will be easier to judge who is truly a top vendor.  Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the new feedback system for other reasons, but if it starts getting more accurate and honest feedback to judge vendors by and gets the community away from this pointless, everyone should have 5/5 mentallity, then at least some good will come of it.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 01:54 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
You can understand his incredulity, I think producing top quality drugs to your door IS outstanding. 5/5
I bought the same product for the same price from another vendor and it was twice as strong (he got a 5) why should I give the same rating to both when 1 is better than the other it defeats the whole point of having a rating system
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: jesse on September 05, 2013, 02:29 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding

keep doing so and you run out of vendors pretty soon.
From me...you would never able to buy again with an attitude like that.
If the order is well packed and brought to your door...that IS outstanding.
There was a time buyers were happy that they could buy their drugs here.....now they start demanding.

Keep one thing in mind...

you buyers/drug users NEED the stuff.

I think you forget how easy it is sitting in your chair press enter and it will come to your door.
Not have to roam the street find your dealer in an alley.

Now the vendor:

he sit at home NOT NEEDING ANYTHING. There will always be polite customers so instead of 100 he maybe has 70 orders.
Still more than enough to live a comfortable life.

Again he does not need anything so when an order comes in...picture this....
It is seen by the vendor, ''hey, that fuck up try to order again''.
Vendor:...yeah right...and?
Buyer: oh man...I hope he will send it...pleaseeeee
Vendor: 2 days later...?
Buyer 2 days later: ooohhh....shitttt nothing is happening....ooohh
4 days later ...CANCELED

Message: WHYYY?????
OOPS, yeah...I thought because you did not really appreciated my way of doing business...why put you through all that stress of rating again. This is so much more pleasant don't you think.

So for all those nitwits think they can do what they want and fuck up a good vendors reputation, think again.
No vendor will ever let you down when you are polite and reasonable.

No cartel or nothing but...I will warn my fellow vendors with the same product to watch out for certain types/names.
There are more buyer -scammers- than vendor scammers. Why?...the vendor make enough money as it is, why ruin that ?
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 03:00 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding

keep doing so and you run out of vendors pretty soon.
From me...you would never able to buy again with an attitude like that.
If the order is well packed and brought to your door...that IS outstanding.
There was a time buyers were happy that they could buy their drugs here.....now they start demanding.

Keep one thing in mind...

you buyers/drug users NEED the stuff.

I think you forget how easy it is sitting in your chair press enter and it will come to your door.
Not have to roam the street find your dealer in an alley.

Now the vendor:

he sit at home NOT NEEDING ANYTHING. There will always be polite customers so instead of 100 he maybe has 70 orders.
Still more than enough to live a comfortable life.

Again he does not need anything so when an order comes in...picture this....
It is seen by the vendor, ''hey, that fuck up try to order again''.
Vendor:...yeah right...and?
Buyer: oh man...I hope he will send it...pleaseeeee
Vendor: 2 days later...?
Buyer 2 days later: ooohhh....shitttt nothing is happening....ooohh
4 days later ...CANCELED

Message: WHYYY?????
OOPS, yeah...I thought because you did not really appreciated my way of doing business...why put you through all that stress of rating again. This is so much more pleasant don't you think.

So for all those nitwits think they can do what they want and fuck up a good vendors reputation, think again.
No vendor will ever let you down when you are polite and reasonable.

No cartel or nothing but...I will warn my fellow vendors with the same product to watch out for certain types/names.
There are more buyer -scammers- than vendor scammers. Why?...the vendor make enough money as it is, why ruin that ?
first of all i dont have to roam the streets to buy drugs they arrive at my door after 1 phone call also my attitude is fine as is my buyer rep
what we are establishing here is proper use of the rateing system please explain how by your logic a product that is outstanding should get the same rateing as one that is average and why should vendors bother to provide better quality than the next guy if it all amounts to the same rating or should we treat vendors like children in a progressive school and give them all first prise for trying ahhhhh
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 03:15 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
You can understand his incredulity, I think producing top quality drugs to your door is outstanding. 5/5

No, it's just another transaction. Buyer wants to get high, seller wants to make money. It's not like this avenue of making cash without having to deal with whining dope pheens at your door and without the risk of getting stabbed or nabbed on the corner is some sort of humanitarian sacrificial effort were mere participation in the market warrants accolades.

5s should be reserved for those vendors that go the extra step, getting it to you a day earlier than you expected, packing it a bit stealthier than you expected and generally being nicer to deal with than you expected. How else would those that really stand out be rewarded for their extra effort if they get lumped in with everyone else that just so gets it done somehow...

Indeed your right I hate to give a 4 though  when not everyone has cottoned on to the new system we either all need to do it or we need to revert back to the old way
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: talawtam on September 05, 2013, 03:27 pm
its all fine. stop moaning and go buy some drugs.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: jesse on September 05, 2013, 05:58 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding

keep doing so and you run out of vendors pretty soon.
From me...you would never able to buy again with an attitude like that.
If the order is well packed and brought to your door...that IS outstanding.
There was a time buyers were happy that they could buy their drugs here.....now they start demanding.

Keep one thing in mind...

you buyers/drug users NEED the stuff.

I think you forget how easy it is sitting in your chair press enter and it will come to your door.
Not have to roam the street find your dealer in an alley.

Now the vendor:

he sit at home NOT NEEDING ANYTHING. There will always be polite customers so instead of 100 he maybe has 70 orders.
Still more than enough to live a comfortable life.

Again he does not need anything so when an order comes in...picture this....
It is seen by the vendor, ''hey, that fuck up try to order again''.
Vendor:...yeah right...and?
Buyer: oh man...I hope he will send it...pleaseeeee
Vendor: 2 days later...?
Buyer 2 days later: ooohhh....shitttt nothing is happening....ooohh
4 days later ...CANCELED

Message: WHYYY?????
OOPS, yeah...I thought because you did not really appreciated my way of doing business...why put you through all that stress of rating again. This is so much more pleasant don't you think.

So for all those nitwits think they can do what they want and fuck up a good vendors reputation, think again.
No vendor will ever let you down when you are polite and reasonable.

No cartel or nothing but...I will warn my fellow vendors with the same product to watch out for certain types/names.
There are more buyer -scammers- than vendor scammers. Why?...the vendor make enough money as it is, why ruin that ?
first of all i dont have to roam the streets to buy drugs they arrive at my door after 1 phone call also my attitude is fine as is my buyer rep
what we are establishing here is proper use of the rateing system please explain how by your logic a product that is outstanding should get the same rateing as one that is average and why should vendors bother to provide better quality than the next guy if it all amounts to the same rating or should we treat vendors like children in a progressive school and give them all first prise for trying ahhhhh

so, you think your idea about rating is as it should be...a proper use...you want that and of course it is perfect the way you do it...
perfect from your point of view.
No vendor give a shit how you think, don't you get that. No vendor will give you extra, free or whatever.
SIMPLE:
Arrived + stealth + quality as advertized = 5/5 not some strange rule or idea you have about rating.
The way you plan to do -or already doing- is fucking up a good vendor's rating.
I hope that vendor will ban you just because you have that arrogant attitude and being
dishonest and blackmaling to get more, more than what you payed for.
You can use the other buyer accounts you said you have already.
You will run out eventually...people will not forget you easily and I hope they ban you for good.
 
Seeing your transactions...you already used 82 !! vendors for 145 transaction.. that is 1.7 per vendor.
Not even average 2 per vendor.
And you have an idea how you need to treat vendors....you have no idea how you do business at all seeing this.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 05, 2013, 06:40 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding

keep doing so and you run out of vendors pretty soon.
From me...you would never able to buy again with an attitude like that.
If the order is well packed and brought to your door...that IS outstanding.
There was a time buyers were happy that they could buy their drugs here.....now they start demanding.

Keep one thing in mind...

you buyers/drug users NEED the stuff.

I think you forget how easy it is sitting in your chair press enter and it will come to your door.
Not have to roam the street find your dealer in an alley.

Now the vendor:

he sit at home NOT NEEDING ANYTHING. There will always be polite customers so instead of 100 he maybe has 70 orders.
Still more than enough to live a comfortable life.

Again he does not need anything so when an order comes in...picture this....
It is seen by the vendor, ''hey, that fuck up try to order again''.
Vendor:...yeah right...and?
Buyer: oh man...I hope he will send it...pleaseeeee
Vendor: 2 days later...?
Buyer 2 days later: ooohhh....shitttt nothing is happening....ooohh
4 days later ...CANCELED

Message: WHYYY?????
OOPS, yeah...I thought because you did not really appreciated my way of doing business...why put you through all that stress of rating again. This is so much more pleasant don't you think.

So for all those nitwits think they can do what they want and fuck up a good vendors reputation, think again.
No vendor will ever let you down when you are polite and reasonable.

No cartel or nothing but...I will warn my fellow vendors with the same product to watch out for certain types/names.
There are more buyer -scammers- than vendor scammers. Why?...the vendor make enough money as it is, why ruin that ?
first of all i dont have to roam the streets to buy drugs they arrive at my door after 1 phone call also my attitude is fine as is my buyer rep
what we are establishing here is proper use of the rateing system please explain how by your logic a product that is outstanding should get the same rateing as one that is average and why should vendors bother to provide better quality than the next guy if it all amounts to the same rating or should we treat vendors like children in a progressive school and give them all first prise for trying ahhhhh

so, you think your idea about rating is as it should be...a proper use...you want that and of course it is perfect the way you do it...
perfect from your point of view.
No vendor give a shit how you think, don't you get that. No vendor will give you extra, free or whatever.
SIMPLE:
Arrived + stealth + quality as advertized = 5/5 not some strange rule or idea you have about rating.
The way you plan to do -or already doing- is fucking up a good vendor's rating.
I hope that vendor will ban you just because you have that arrogant attitude and being
dishonest and blackmaling to get more, more than what you payed for.
You can use the other buyer accounts you said you have already.
You will run out eventually...people will not forget you easily and I hope they ban you for good.
 
Seeing your transactions...you already used 82 !! vendors for 145 transaction.. that is 1.7 per vendor.
Not even average 2 per vendor.
And you have an idea how you need to treat vendors....you have no idea how you do business at all seeing this.

I dunno about others but you certainly don't need to be threatening me with "running out of your business" or "placing me on a blacklist" because I certainly wouldn't buy from someone who thinks mediocre getting it done MUST be rewarded with the highest of praise. I've seen plenty of vendors with that very same attitude come and go. Could you be any more of an entitled little whiner? You want to be treated like a rock star? You better deliver like you are one. Or go pushing your shit on corner where you get the occasional toothless blowjob making you feel all big and important.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: jesse on September 05, 2013, 06:59 pm
again it is simple.
You want to buy, you need to follow some rules.
If all is done to what you can expect, shipped in time, stealth, quality...when all this is good there is no reason what so ever to give less than 5/5.
No matter what you think...you want/need to buy...vendors can sell, if they want.
You better be nice to vendors, just as the vendors are nice to their customers.
You as buyer make the threat not giving a good rating...vendor can only protect himself by not selling to you aka put you on a ''blacklist'' what is so strange about that?
You can do wrong to a vendor and he has to roll over and say ''yes master, how can I be of service?"
Yeah right...like that is going to happen LOL
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 05, 2013, 07:05 pm
again it is simple.
You want to buy, you need to follow some rules.
If all is done to what you can expect, shipped in time, stealth, quality...when all this is good there is no reason what so ever to give less than 5/5.
No matter what you think...you want/need to buy...vendors can sell, if they want.
You better be nice to vendors, just as the vendors are nice to their customers.
You as buyer make the threat not giving a good rating...vendor can only protect himself by not selling to you aka put you on a ''blacklist'' what is so strange about that?
You can do wrong to a vendor and he has to roll over and say ''yes master, how can I be of service?"
Yeah right...like that is going to happen LOL
Are you still here? have you no fucking life? Go and fuck off and give us a break from your uncouth and irrelevant nursery rhymes.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 09:25 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding

keep doing so and you run out of vendors pretty soon.
From me...you would never able to buy again with an attitude like that.
If the order is well packed and brought to your door...that IS outstanding.
There was a time buyers were happy that they could buy their drugs here.....now they start demanding.

Keep one thing in mind...

you buyers/drug users NEED the stuff.

I think you forget how easy it is sitting in your chair press enter and it will come to your door.
Not have to roam the street find your dealer in an alley.

Now the vendor:

he sit at home NOT NEEDING ANYTHING. There will always be polite customers so instead of 100 he maybe has 70 orders.
Still more than enough to live a comfortable life.

Again he does not need anything so when an order comes in...picture this....
It is seen by the vendor, ''hey, that fuck up try to order again''.
Vendor:...yeah right...and?
Buyer: oh man...I hope he will send it...pleaseeeee
Vendor: 2 days later...?
Buyer 2 days later: ooohhh....shitttt nothing is happening....ooohh
4 days later ...CANCELED

Message: WHYYY?????
OOPS, yeah...I thought because you did not really appreciated my way of doing business...why put you through all that stress of rating again. This is so much more pleasant don't you think.

So for all those nitwits think they can do what they want and fuck up a good vendors reputation, think again.
No vendor will ever let you down when you are polite and reasonable.

No cartel or nothing but...I will warn my fellow vendors with the same product to watch out for certain types/names.
There are more buyer -scammers- than vendor scammers. Why?...the vendor make enough money as it is, why ruin that ?
first of all i dont have to roam the streets to buy drugs they arrive at my door after 1 phone call also my attitude is fine as is my buyer rep
what we are establishing here is proper use of the rateing system please explain how by your logic a product that is outstanding should get the same rateing as one that is average and why should vendors bother to provide better quality than the next guy if it all amounts to the same rating or should we treat vendors like children in a progressive school and give them all first prise for trying ahhhhh

so, you think your idea about rating is as it should be...a proper use...you want that and of course it is perfect the way you do it...
perfect from your point of view.
No vendor give a shit how you think, don't you get that. No vendor will give you extra, free or whatever.
SIMPLE:
Arrived + stealth + quality as advertized = 5/5 not some strange rule or idea you have about rating.
The way you plan to do -or already doing- is fucking up a good vendor's rating.
I hope that vendor will ban you just because you have that arrogant attitude and being
dishonest and blackmaling to get more, more than what you payed for.
You can use the other buyer accounts you said you have already.
You will run out eventually...people will not forget you easily and I hope they ban you for good.
 
Seeing your transactions...you already used 82 !! vendors for 145 transaction.. that is 1.7 per vendor.
Not even average 2 per vendor.
And you have an idea how you need to treat vendors....you have no idea how you do business at all seeing this.
i dont know what the fuck your on about dont try to turn this into a buyer vs vendor debate that kind of devise ave  attitude is of no value here and what is with your scamming allegations and multiple account shit
I did not change the rating system and am trying to discuss with people how to deal with the new system you are obviously incapable of a adult discussion as all you have done is mouth off and not address any issues raised 
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: jesse on September 05, 2013, 09:35 pm
just making clear you think your way of rating a perfectly good vendor is fucked up.
Reason, you bring down a good vendor's rating because you expect more....more of what is not clear.
That is why I say :\
shipped in time
stealthy
quality
Thats all..if al, is good it is 5/5
Every vendor will not accept lees because you think it is right.
So...vendors are reluctant to sell to you.
You already have 82 vendors and 145 transactions. You really like a good relation with a vendor huh LOL
You will see that in no time vendors are sick of you and you can call your local dealer to serve you at home .
If this is not clear nothing will
Vendors don't like to be blackmailed to give more (gifts etc) or else they get a 4/5.
Is this clear? Good
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 09:50 pm
just making clear you think your way of rating a perfectly good vendor is fucked up.
Reason, you bring down a good vendor's rating because you expect more....more of what is not clear.
That is why I say :\
shipped in time
stealthy
quality
Thats all..if al, is good it is 5/5
Every vendor will not accept lees because you think it is right.
So...vendors are reluctant to sell to you.
You already have 82 vendors and 145 transactions. You really like a good relation with a vendor huh LOL
You will see that in no time vendors are sick of you and you can call your local dealer to serve you at home .
If this is not clear nothing will
Vendors don't like to be blackmailed to give more (gifts etc) or else they get a 4/5.
Is this clear? Good
so tell dpr to change the meaning of the rating and keep you spurious accusations to yourself I have a great relationship with almost everyone i buy from (apart from the few who have ripped me off) and how is it bad to use lots of vendors its called shopping around its basic economics you are simply unable to comprehend this thread so i suggest you look at the new rating system and try to understand what a 4 and a 5 mean then perhaps return without the childish accusations and poor attempt at forcing your ill found view apon others
and I am not saying its  to give a 4 I am saying that the new ratings imply that you dont give a unconditional 5/5 as it undermines the quality control aspect 
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 05, 2013, 09:52 pm
just making clear you think your way of rating a perfectly good vendor is fucked up.
Reason, you bring down a good vendor's rating because you expect more....more of what is not clear.
That is why I say :\
shipped in time
stealthy
quality
Thats all..if al, is good it is 5/5
Every vendor will not accept lees because you think it is right.
So...vendors are reluctant to sell to you.
You already have 82 vendors and 145 transactions. You really like a good relation with a vendor huh LOL
You will see that in no time vendors are sick of you and you can call your local dealer to serve you at home .
If this is not clear nothing will
Vendors don't like to be blackmailed to give more (gifts etc) or else they get a 4/5.
Is this clear? Good

I already know that you are the type of vendor I don't want anything to do with. You prefer strongarm/blackmail over upping your game to truly deserve the "above and beyond" rating. You want to be called "excellent" for doing just enough. Your posts reek of mediocrity. I guess you must have had trouble on that front otherwise you wouldn't rant on like that. Blackmailing buyers into giving better ratings by threatening blackballing them should be a bannable offense. You may not scam on product, but you sure as hell are one shifty character.

From the site:

     5 - WOW! Outstanding!
    4 - Solid, would recommend
    3 - Meh, they're ok I guess
    2 - Definitely needs improvement
    1 - NEVER AGAIN!!!

Want 5/5s? Start being outstanding instead of solid and recommendable.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: serenedion on September 05, 2013, 09:59 pm
just making clear you think your way of rating a perfectly good vendor is fucked up.
Reason, you bring down a good vendor's rating because you expect more....more of what is not clear.
That is why I say :\
shipped in time
stealthy
quality
Thats all..if al, is good it is 5/5
Every vendor will not accept lees because you think it is right.
So...vendors are reluctant to sell to you.
You already have 82 vendors and 145 transactions. You really like a good relation with a vendor huh LOL
You will see that in no time vendors are sick of you and you can call your local dealer to serve you at home .
If this is not clear nothing will
Vendors don't like to be blackmailed to give more (gifts etc) or else they get a 4/5.
Is this clear? Good

I already know that you are the type of vendor I don't want anything to do with. You prefer strongarm/blackmail over upping your game to truly deserve the "above and beyond" rating. You want to be called "excellent" for doing just enough. Your posts reek of mediocrity. I guess you must have had trouble on that front otherwise you wouldn't rant on like that. Blackmailing buyers into giving better ratings by threatening blackballing them should be a bannable offense. You may not scam on product, but you sure as hell are one shifty character.

From the site:

     5 - WOW! Outstanding!
    4 - Solid, would recommend
    3 - Meh, they're ok I guess
    2 - Definitely needs improvement
    1 - NEVER AGAIN!!!

Want 5/5s? Start being outstanding instead of solid and recommendable.
thank you for being more concise about this it would be nice if more people were capable of this kind of discussion instead of the kind of youtube comments thus far from a delusional cunt whose only real power was to give me a - karma  ha ha peace
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: jesse on September 05, 2013, 10:10 pm
just making clear you think your way of rating a perfectly good vendor is fucked up.
Reason, you bring down a good vendor's rating because you expect more....more of what is not clear.
That is why I say :\
shipped in time
stealthy
quality
Thats all..if al, is good it is 5/5
Every vendor will not accept lees because you think it is right.
So...vendors are reluctant to sell to you.
You already have 82 vendors and 145 transactions. You really like a good relation with a vendor huh LOL
You will see that in no time vendors are sick of you and you can call your local dealer to serve you at home .
If this is not clear nothing will
Vendors don't like to be blackmailed to give more (gifts etc) or else they get a 4/5.
Is this clear? Good

I already know that you are the type of vendor I don't want anything to do with. You prefer strongarm/blackmail over upping your game to truly deserve the "above and beyond" rating. You want to be called "excellent" for doing just enough. Your posts reek of mediocrity. I guess you must have had trouble on that front otherwise you wouldn't rant on like that. Blackmailing buyers into giving better ratings by threatening blackballing them should be a bannable offense. You may not scam on product, but you sure as hell are one shifty character.

From the site:

     5 - WOW! Outstanding!
    4 - Solid, would recommend
    3 - Meh, they're ok I guess
    2 - Definitely needs improvement
    1 - NEVER AGAIN!!!

Want 5/5s? Start being outstanding instead of solid and recommendable.

well we are clear ...that is exactly what I have....only 5/5 over 1000's of orders shipped and here for 1.5 year.
And yes, of course I only get this rating when I extort my good customers.
Yes...wow outstanding!

Have a great time on SR, if you come by at my account...please don't bother to order, it will of course be cancelled
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: NorthernStar on September 05, 2013, 10:57 pm
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
You can understand his incredulity, I think producing top quality drugs to your door is outstanding. 5/5

No, it's just another transaction. Buyer wants to get high, seller wants to make money. It's not like this avenue of making cash without having to deal with whining dope pheens at your door and without the risk of getting stabbed or nabbed on the corner is some sort of humanitarian sacrificial effort were mere participation in the market warrants accolades.

5s should be reserved for those vendors that go the extra step, getting it to you a day earlier than you expected, packing it a bit stealthier than you expected and generally being nicer to deal with than you expected. How else would those that really stand out be rewarded for their extra effort if they get lumped in with everyone else that just so gets it done somehow...
Johhny you don't get it mate...How can a vendor send something a day before I expect it? Unless they are psychic, a bit stealthier than expected, wtf as long as it got to me the stealth must be adequate no? he isn't going to write me a poem or tell me how good looking I am, so what else can he do to earn a five/five, I believe if a vendor sends what I pay for, and it gets to me that is outstanding, Lumped, I'd be happy to be regarded as always delivering. Sounds like you want a blow job with your drugs, if so go the brothel, and I wont be swayed on this. It's unfair buddy. in my opinion.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 05, 2013, 11:04 pm
I see you're making friends again Jesse, do you guys know this fucker is Eastern European. Jesse I will rate you a fucking 4/5 and until you can show me you're an outstanding vendo,r then this is what you'll get OK so don't be trying to blackmail people, you were actually trying to disrespect coke heads before you Albanian fuckwitt, learn some manners and English.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 05, 2013, 11:09 pm
just making clear you think your way of rating a perfectly good vendor is fucked up.
Reason, you bring down a good vendor's rating because you expect more....more of what is not clear.
That is why I say :\
shipped in time
stealthy
quality
Thats all..if al, is good it is 5/5
Every vendor will not accept lees because you think it is right.
So...vendors are reluctant to sell to you.
You already have 82 vendors and 145 transactions. You really like a good relation with a vendor huh LOL
You will see that in no time vendors are sick of you and you can call your local dealer to serve you at home .
If this is not clear nothing will
Vendors don't like to be blackmailed to give more (gifts etc) or else they get a 4/5.
Is this clear? Good

I already know that you are the type of vendor I don't want anything to do with. You prefer strongarm/blackmail over upping your game to truly deserve the "above and beyond" rating. You want to be called "excellent" for doing just enough. Your posts reek of mediocrity. I guess you must have had trouble on that front otherwise you wouldn't rant on like that. Blackmailing buyers into giving better ratings by threatening blackballing them should be a bannable offense. You may not scam on product, but you sure as hell are one shifty character.

From the site:

     5 - WOW! Outstanding!
    4 - Solid, would recommend
    3 - Meh, they're ok I guess
    2 - Definitely needs improvement
    1 - NEVER AGAIN!!!

Want 5/5s? Start being outstanding instead of solid and recommendable.

well we are clear ...that is exactly what I have....only 5/5 over 1000's of orders shipped and here for 1.5 year.
And yes, of course I only get this rating when I extort my good customers.
Yes...wow outstanding!

Have a great time on SR, if you come by at my account...please don't bother to order, it will of course be cancelled
Yes well say bye bye to that record, that's ancient history, you are getting 4/5 from now on from every buyer capish motherfucker?
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 06, 2013, 03:06 am
I had to explain to a vendor why i gave a 4 not a 5 if the stuff was good and it arrived on time with adequate stealth It was hard to explain that 4 is no longer negative and a 5 should be reserved for outstanding
You can understand his incredulity, I think producing top quality drugs to your door is outstanding. 5/5

No, it's just another transaction. Buyer wants to get high, seller wants to make money. It's not like this avenue of making cash without having to deal with whining dope pheens at your door and without the risk of getting stabbed or nabbed on the corner is some sort of humanitarian sacrificial effort were mere participation in the market warrants accolades.

5s should be reserved for those vendors that go the extra step, getting it to you a day earlier than you expected, packing it a bit stealthier than you expected and generally being nicer to deal with than you expected. How else would those that really stand out be rewarded for their extra effort if they get lumped in with everyone else that just so gets it done somehow...
Johhny you don't get it mate...How can a vendor send something a day before I expect it? Unless they are psychic, a bit stealthier than expected, wtf as long as it got to me the stealth must be adequate no? he isn't going to write me a poem or tell me how good looking I am, so what else can he do to earn a five/five, I believe if a vendor sends what I pay for, and it gets to me that is outstanding, Lumped, I'd be happy to be regarded as always delivering. Sounds like you want a blow job with your drugs, if so go the brothel, and I wont be swayed on this. It's unfair buddy. in my opinion.

Y'all are coming across a bit butthurt like a kid that's been told by mum that from today on there will be no more gold stars for making dooty on the potty all by yourselves.

I order domestic. I expect you to process and ship within three days. That's solid, I recommend you. You process and ship same day or next morning, you are outstanding.

I don't want to get busted. I expect you to proper vacuum seal and stealth, you do that? Great! You're solid, I recommend you. I open your shit and I have trouble finding the stuff myself and see it's double vac'ed in 7-mil mylar, you're outstanding.

If you consider that equal to being forced to giving blowjobs maybe this is the wrong sales route?

Alls I am seeing here is vendors being butthurt because now their whea blergh it somehow got their dinnit? -attitude now won't allow them to be rated the same anymore with those few vendors that really go above and beyond the call of duty.

It's really a great irony that y'alls don't see how much you confirm a mediocre attitude by repeating "but it got there somehow dinnit?"
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 06, 2013, 07:08 am
Norcal...are you posting or just re-posting some one else's post???
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: JahBUDS on September 06, 2013, 07:47 am
New feedback system is absurd..
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 06, 2013, 08:13 am
New feedback system is absurd..

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: jesse on September 06, 2013, 10:32 am
well, this is a repeated client, on the road for a long long time and this is what I got this morning after asking not to forget the feedback:

i see wht you mean there is a bad new system,...i click 5/5 for you and then it moved me away from that order before i can comment??? i want to make a commnt, its my favourite fun part!! How do i do it? they dont show the customer how to comment,, do you know how? maybe i ask the admin?
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 06, 2013, 11:59 am
well, this is a repeated client, on the road for a long long time and this is what I got this morning after asking not to forget the feedback:

i see wht you mean there is a bad new system,...i click 5/5 for you and then it moved me away from that order before i can comment??? i want to make a commnt, its my favourite fun part!! How do i do it? they dont show the customer how to comment,, do you know how? maybe i ask the admin?
Well your client must be on Atlantis, I have just finalized and it asked for a rating out of 5...then it proceeded to ask me did I want to comment. So I don't know what system your client is talking about.
I can comment and then discuss if I want, so that's 3 different styles of feedback.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: RmanOnaHill on September 07, 2013, 12:15 am
For what it's worth at first i thought the new system was a terrible idea but after using it a few times i reckon it's made me(and hopefully others)make a more honest review rather than just hitting 5/5 and cracking on.Can't comment on the scammer side of things surely they could always threaten a low score?I only marked a vendor down who i received an underweight order from.I honestly wouldn't recommend them and explained the reason's why in my review.
Surely if all buyers were more honest about there purchase then when a scammer threatens a 4/5 review it wouldn't matter so much?
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 07, 2013, 03:29 am
Place domestic order Monday morning, sits in processing until Thursday just before you could cancel then goes in transit. Doesn't show up until next Wednesday, has a hole in the envelope where you can see the mylar, your 3 PMs were ignored. You weigh it out with your $200 microscale and it comes out 0.92 instead of 1G. You rate 3/5 and all in a sudden all hell breaks loose.

I'M BEING FEEDBACK BLACKMAILED, THIS BUYER IS A FEEDBACK SCAMMER (despite years on the road with 0/0 buyer stats), AMMA PUT YOU ON A BAD BUYER LIST!!!! I COULDN'T SEND IT EARLIER, DOING THIS IS SOOOO HARD, NO ONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT TAKES!!!  GIMME MY 5/5 NOW OR I WILL FUCK YOU UP!!!!!

Sound familiar to anyone?
Title: Controversial feedback system
Post by: maligan on September 08, 2013, 07:02 am
Simple facts !

Its been a while now and 1 thing is for sure. Its not popular at all. It created a huge amounts of arguments mostly against the new system.

One other thing that speaks for its self :  more than 50 % of voters do not want it....

Best wishes to you all

maligan

PS

I doubt that users will ever fall in love with it. Most likely to get used to it............


Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: livestr0ng on September 10, 2013, 08:44 am
AHHHH

This is one of the very rare times I'm posting without having read the previous posts but I accidentally just declined to leave a review (I "unrated" a vendor according to SR  ???) and now there's no going back! It was for a kick ass vendor who really deserves it and its the least I could do for what he's done for me and the services he provides.  >:( Anger. Vent. :( Sad. Fuck.

EDIT: Apparently, I once again have the option! Anger residing...smile forming. Maybe it was a glitch, I just needed to wait a little, or something else. Idk.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: Baraka on September 11, 2013, 07:42 am
There is no incentive to leave feedback. That's one problem. The other is that there is no way to update on product quality later. You can wait to leave your feedback but that's not good enough and further reduces incentive since you'll probably forget to do it later on. While I agree that allowing to change feedback can lead to all kinds of abuse by both buyers and sellers (this happened to me with one seller), and I like the change made, you should be able to ADD additional feedback later. No changing anything. Just allow for one addition later on within a 30 or 60 day time limit after purchase for feedback on quality.

SR is a work in progress. Hopefully more will be done to incentivize feedback and allow for the sharing of opinions on product quality on every vendor's listing. The discussion section and vendor review threads on the forums isn't good enough. It needs to be more direct, transparent and accessible.
Title: Re: POLL: The new feedback system Like? Dislike?
Post by: TSX on September 11, 2013, 04:22 pm
I like that you can finalize without the need the leave a review immediately, that helps FE's. :)
The old system was better in terms of view ability. Even after the shrinking DPR did. Also not having the ability to edit your feedback is very bad.

The incentive to leave feedback is build into me, so that is not a problem, I'm always happy when I have the opportunity to write something about the transaction.