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Title: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: HeeHaw on January 02, 2013, 08:40 am

I actually try to stick to the roxicodone puills without the APAP because I abuse my liver way too much already with occasional binge drinking and past abuse of vicodin and percocet.  But I do buy some every now and then if the price is right!  :)  Mostly I aim to use on somewhat of a schedule, taking 2-3 days off each week from opiates, and rotating my "off day" drugs between benzos, gabapentin and booze.

Sorry for the thread jack Bruce!

sorry for jacking the thread again Bruce.

Hey KitKat I happen to love the roxy 30's and 15's and yea I like my opiates without any aspirin as well. Don't you think the roxies is just the same thing as pharmaceutical heroin? But there must be something better about real heroin because there are a lot more people buying it from the road then they are buying roxies I think? It may be the high prices of the roxies.

If you compare prices there are a lot of heroin listings that work out to being a lot cheaper then the roxies. Even that vendor who sales china white for 300 a gram. If you worked out the price for a gram of roxies what would it be at 35 bux for a 30 mg pill? Hell you can get a gram of fucking killer china white for 300 bux and if you paid 35 per 30 mg of roxie it would cost you over 1100 dollars! I would venture to say that china white heroin a 30 mg dose would do you better then a roxie 30. What do you think? What does anybody think I'd like to hear all opinion.

Oh and good morning everybody That fucking shit ha still got me wired to the gills. Thank goodness for xannies wheww

If somone gets a good gram of H it can last a few days 3 depening on how strong maybe 4, It also last's almost all day long . Roxi's u have to do at least 2 30mg thats 60bucks right there, and after about 6 hrs the feeling is almost gone if you have snorted it.. Oc's and the Original Opana were the closest thing to H IMO.. I got a Gram Of H From a new vendor friday for 150 bucks and i still have plenty left to probley get me to thursday. It turned out to be very good quality H. Im not someone with a Low tolerance either , so u do the math from monday til thursday in Roxi's having to do very least 2 a day or 1 gram of H? Depending on how much u get the H for of course to though..

SORRY FOR SWITCHING SUBJECTS OF THREAD BRUCE!! But i had to respond to the post.. Were keeping it BUMPED!!

hey guys did you vote?  I think I know what AnonymousAddict would pick and I'd be picking the same thing . China White! Although I've never tried anything that you would call heroin and the closest thing Ive tried to it is roxies and morphine. I agree about the tolerance of oxies. I snort them when i get thme but hell I cant remember doing it an hour or 2 after the drainage is gone. I'd be spending my cash wise to buy some H i do believe and I can't wait to try it railing it and shooting it
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: kitkat82 on January 02, 2013, 08:50 am
Well according to some Google searches I did on the clear-net about a month ago the general consensus on Opiophile is that Heroin is more euphoric and powerful than anything. 

Someone said that Oxycodone is what you take to go to work and make your boring day more bearable, but when you get home and can relax you want to do heroin. 
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: HeeHaw on January 02, 2013, 09:08 am
Hey KitKat he didn't pm me or anything like that but I wanted to respect what he said publicly we were hi jacking his thread quite a bit.
+1 KK i felt like giving you some karma
I been on the fence and been wanting to try some real H for a while now since coming to the road. I have tried a lot of other suff and I keep missing out on any fee samples that come along. I don't want to be known as a free sample hustler or what have you but to try something new for the first time seems better if you don't have to pay for it because you may not like it. I have decided to try to buy some tho because if I like roxies then i should love some heroin but I want my first experience with it to be with the best their is.

as far as domestic goes i was thinking about trying out some of them stamp bags I've seen listed for small amounts because that would be good without spending a lot of money on a trial. but feedback is to much all over the place and I am not sure about quality there so I'd really like my first time with H to be some china white but as far as I know you have to order it from abroad right? I also want to bang it for my first time and i am talking about a starter dose of maybe 5 mg? until I see what it will do from there.

Im not big on needles and do not use them any more because I get just as much out of smoking or snorting then i did with the needle when I was banging and that leaves a nasty tell tale sign you know? When it get's to the point that you arewilling to shoot up in the vein that runs along side your dik, that's a good time to stop using the needle. I like to pull back and see that blood as much as the next guy  but it really isn't worth it beside I get my kid on the weekends and I already do enough getting fucked up.

But still I want to take 2 more shots before I am completly finished with that point and I hav never shot coke or Heroin. Any opinions?

I have shot meth but not the good stuff I have gotten from the road. I've shot 30's, 15's, dilaudids k8's and k4's, norcos(lol) and many different regular smaller dose painesr such as tens and what not. I saw some guys while I was in jail get their diabetic pack away from the nurse and they slicked out the needled and then gave it back to her. Later that night them idiots were shooting aspirin and that other little pill she was giving out to help us sleep. I can't think of the name right now but it's an allergy pill and it was in capsule form but these needle freaks didn't give a muther fuck
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: sniper123 on January 02, 2013, 09:25 am
Hey KitKat he didn't pm me or anything like that but I wanted to respect what he said publicly we were hi jacking his thread quite a bit.

I been on the fence and been wanting to try some real H for a while now since coming to the road. I have tried a lot of other suff and I keep missing out on any fee samples that come along. I don't want to be known as a free sample hustler or what have you but to try something new for the first time seems better if you don't have to pay for it because you may not like it. I have decided to try to buy some tho because if I like roxies then i should love some heroin but I want my first experience with it to be with the best their is.

as far as domestic goes i was thinking about trying out some of them stamp bags I've seen listed for small amounts because that would be good without spending a lot of money on a trial. but feedback is to much all over the place and I am not sure about quality there so I'd really like my first time with H to be some china white but as far as I know you have to order it from abroad right? I also want to bang it for my first time and i am talking about a starter dose of maybe 5 mg? until I see what it will do from there.

Im not big on needles and do not use them any more because I get just as much out of smoking or snorting then i did with the needle when I was banging and that leaves a nasty tell tale sign you know? When it get's to the point that you arewilling to shoot up in the vein that runs along side your dik, that's a good time to stop using the needle. I like to pull back and see that blood as much as the next guy  but it really isn't worth it beside I get my kid on the weekends and I already do enough getting fucked up.

But still I want to take 2 more shots before I am completly finished with that point and I hav never shot coke or Heroin. Any opinions?
If you do take the dive into H then i highly recommend the vendor nod. Great guy, very professional, great packaging, and shipping times.

Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: HeeHaw on January 02, 2013, 09:29 am
yes sniper thanks man and yea I saw nod's forum  product offers page and his coke may very well be the best coke on SR according to his feedback and his H pictures on his vendor page are awesome. I would love to have the cash to get an 8 ball of his rock cocaine. I haven't had anything that resembled that sense the late 90's. it looks amazing!

i have had my eye out for that kind of coke since finding the road
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: sniper123 on January 02, 2013, 09:37 am
yes sniper thanks man and yea I saw nod's forum  product offers page and his coke may very well be the best coke on SR according to his feedback and his H pictures on his vendor page are awesome. I would love to have the cash to get an 8 ball of his rock cocaine. I haven't had anything that resembled that sense the late 90's. it looks amazing!

i have had my eye out for that kind of coke since finding the road
Everything that man carries is good product.
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: HeeHaw on January 02, 2013, 11:11 am

I actually try to stick to the roxicodone puills without the APAP because I abuse my liver way too much already with occasional binge drinking and past abuse of vicodin and percocet.  But I do buy some every now and then if the price is right!  :)  Mostly I aim to use on somewhat of a schedule, taking 2-3 days off each week from opiates, and rotating my "off day" drugs between benzos, gabapentin and booze.

Sorry for the thread jack Bruce!

sorry for jacking the thread again Bruce.

Hey KitKat I happen to love the roxy 30's and 15's and yea I like my opiates without any aspirin as well. Don't you think the roxies is just the same thing as pharmaceutical heroin? But there must be something better about real heroin because there are a lot more people buying it from the road then they are buying roxies I think? It may be the high prices of the roxies.

If you compare prices there are a lot of heroin listings that work out to being a lot cheaper then the roxies. Even that vendor who sales china white for 300 a gram. If you worked out the price for a gram of roxies what would it be at 35 bux for a 30 mg pill? Hell you can get a gram of fucking killer china white for 300 bux and if you paid 35 per 30 mg of roxie it would cost you over 1100 dollars! I would venture to say that china white heroin a 30 mg dose would do you better then a roxie 30. What do you think? What does anybody think I'd like to hear all opinion.

Oh and good morning everybody That fucking shit ha still got me wired to the gills. Thank goodness for xannies wheww

If somone gets a good gram of H it can last a few days 3 depening on how strong maybe 4, It also last's almost all day long . Roxi's u have to do at least 2 30mg thats 60bucks right there, and after about 6 hrs the feeling is almost gone if you have snorted it.. Oc's and the Original Opana were the closest thing to H IMO.. I got a Gram Of H From a new vendor friday for 150 bucks and i still have plenty left to probley get me to thursday. It turned out to be very good quality H. Im not someone with a Low tolerance either , so u do the math from monday til thursday in Roxi's having to do very least 2 a day or 1 gram of H? Depending on how much u get the H for of course to though..

SORRY FOR SWITCHING SUBJECTS OF THREAD BRUCE!! But i had to respond to the post.. Were keeping it BUMPED!!

Yeah, I have never done heroin before.  I don't trust myself to measure it properly and I get paranoid with powders because they aren't as neatly contained.  But I have read that the high is very different.  It supposedly is more mellow and dreamy, relaxing.  Oxy is more stimulating, it is related to codeine.   Heroin is definitely cheaper, but the only problem with that is once you find something cheaper you start doing more.  I have to work at keeping my tolerance at a manageable level, so that if I run out for a week I am not completely miserable and sick.  It is tough, and I wager it would be twice as hard with heroin, since so many people say it is the best opiate high out there. 

I like talking 5-10 mg of oxy during the day because I can still go to the store, or visit with people and not be nodding off or scratching my face like crazy.  I am not sure if this is correct, but I am under the impression that Heroin is more sedating, it is a derivative of morphine..  Anyone feel free to correct me ion this.  I am by no means an expert.

yes I always thought that morphine was made from heroin yea heroin is an originator of many substances. My opinion about tolerances is they suck. When I finally find a new drug I love then I got to wait a week in between doses. the nbomes and mdma is perfect examples. When I found the road I tried the nbomes then started getting to the point where I felt nothing from them unless I waited a week. Then I got the chance to try mdma and fucking loved it then found out it had a tolerance issue and the magic could disappear all together. Fuck man I was getting off good on eating 100 mg to start with and now I want o have at least a gram for a 2 day binge. Seriously I want 250 mg as a starter dose on mdma and that could easily be higher. I have red where people say they need at least a half gram for starters. I want ot start candy flipping a bit with the nbomes and mdma and some mda along with some meth or coke. what do you guys think and how should these compounds be taken and in what order for the best results?
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: AnonymousAddict on January 02, 2013, 04:53 pm
I just voted!! U already know what for! I have had experiance with every one of these drugs.. Im new to H. I first started with Oc's.. The original formula not the Generic OP shit. They were good for everything , if you were waking up and needed a boost for work then yea they were great for that!! They could give u crazy energy. At the same time though if u wanted to just wake up and snort one lay back and relax they were just as good for that also, Thats why i loved them soo much..

Roxi;s Iv never been to much a Fan of. They have Oxy in them but there not the same as a OC original formula. They are Roxicodone and Oc's are Oxycontin..Same active drug but still different. I could snort 2 30mg Roxi and not feel any thing like i would from snorting 1 40mg OC.. There is just a stronger effect,.

Herion #4 This surprisingly is newer to me than all other Opiate's.. Im on Methadone everyday, which is what they offer to people who are addicted to Opiates, Heroin , Oc,Roxi etc etc, You get the picture.. Methadone is very strong and somewhat blocks the craving for other opaites and it doesnt allow u to feel the others as much, But thats simply cause its soo much stronger. Its giving for Pain also and has a very LONG half life. Back to my point, Since im on Methadone it takes really strong H for me to really feel good. Iv gotta say H is More Euphoric than the others not by much but to me it is more of just you wanna do it then Catch a Nod and fight the sleep. Also iv done it and gotton very motivated and wanted to clean and go do shit.

Just Monday iv got a batch of some of the best H iv had yet off SR, Iv found that the Tar has been the best on here up until Monday when i got some #4 in. I got a Gram from a New Vendor with a KILLER PRICE for the quality of this H. 150 bucks!! Iv bought #4 off here a couple other times that has been almost double the price and no where near as good, I would go through a Gram in 2 days. The stuff i got Monday I still have almost half left not Wednesday Morning.  The price you would pay in Roxi;s to get as many days from a Gram of good H would be waaay to much, plus Roxi dont give you the same great effects at all. Just barely touch on it.
 
   Im seriously thinking about ordering a couple G;s of the stuff i got then cutting it a little bit, It wouldnt hurt the quality hardly at all, and sell it around my area. In my town there are no H dealers at all. Iv seen it 3 times in the 10+ years iv been into Opiates. So people would go nuts. I sold my friend a line the other day, I was being nice and i said do it and give me what u think its worth, I gave him a line about this lng  ..................... <lol best example i can give.. Well he did it and sat there and then he started mumbling for a bit then about 30 min later he was asleep with his mouth wide open just passed the hell out and he would wake up every 15 min or so scratching and when he finally came out of it, he gave me $40 bucks and begged me to sell him another.. lol..

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Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: Ahoyhoy on January 02, 2013, 06:09 pm
There is no contest here surely. The best china white is one of the purest forms of opiate. I've tried oxy 80 and Opana and for sure Opana is the bomb, but get some good quality china white and you've bought some extremely good times.
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: captainjojo on January 03, 2013, 06:00 pm
I'm in the H camp.  I've tried just about everything as well.  Roxi's, Morphine, Hydromorphone and tons of other variants.

I used to love the old school OC 80's.  You could snort them, chew them and even IV them.  But the price for these things simply got out of hand.

I find H has a much mellower high and a much better rush than most of the other stuff and lasts longer as well.  As AA say's, with good H a gram can last you two, three or more days whereas the Roxi's and other pills you end up having to take two or three times a day and the cost is ridiculous.

One other thing people don't seem to realize is that Oxy's and Hydros can be much stronger than H and I find the WD's from them to be worse then when doing H.

The pills are great if you just want to get an evening buzz going or have a good time at a weekend party but for longevity, H can't be beat. 
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: MC Haberdasher on January 03, 2013, 06:12 pm
I prefer Heroin..  But if I can get roxy's for cheap  ::) then they aren't bad either.  I can also shoot 5 or 6 roxys over the course of a night, and still go out drinking and be fine.


With dope, it's better that I stay indoors.
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: dumbassnoob on January 03, 2013, 07:22 pm
I'm in the H camp.  I've tried just about everything as well.  Roxi's, Morphine, Hydromorphone and tons of other variants.

I used to love the old school OC 80's.  You could snort them, chew them and even IV them.  But the price for these things simply got out of hand.

I find H has a much mellower high and a much better rush than most of the other stuff and lasts longer as well.  As AA say's, with good H a gram can last you two, three or more days whereas the Roxi's and other pills you end up having to take two or three times a day and the cost is ridiculous.

One other thing people don't seem to realize is that Oxy's and Hydros can be much stronger than H and I find the WD's from them to be worse then when doing H.

The pills are great if you just want to get an evening buzz going or have a good time at a weekend party but for longevity, H can't be beat.

I totally agree with everything this cat says, especially the part about w/d's from roxies being worse than from H, but my ROA is more often insufflation so that should be taken into consideration.  Every time I've gone the IV route I can feel it "pulling me in", and with an addictive personality I can't afford to let that become a "habit" ;)

I actually switched to H from roxies and other pills for the cost factor, then found that it lasts longer, gives you the same or better rush and euphoria, isn't as hard on the sinuses, and ends with a nice long warmth and mellowness ("Nod") that I didn't exactly get from the pills.  Hell, the word "heroin" is derived from the greek word for "heroic", was coined by Bayer pharmaceuticals in 1898 for their alternative to morphine, which they believed (or claimed to at least) to be non-addictive -- big "Whoops!" on that one I guess.  IIRC, Germans gave it to their soldiers to keep them "soldiering on", so realized its potential and use - wonder what they gave them when the "Nods" kicked in, lol!

Anyhow, if money were no object I'd probably do myself in, but IMHO H, especially #4 and *especially* China White, is the cream of the crop of opiates.

Stay safe everyone, know and keep to your limits!

DaN
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: Batin on January 04, 2013, 07:08 am
It is real close between opana and china white for me, but I agree with the majority and will say H. Mostly because the WD for opana is seriously 10x worse than heroin or anything. It is such a nightmare.
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: b0lixtrader on January 04, 2013, 08:34 am
Opana was amazing when I went on a binge on the stuff and was pushing it at the same time.  Was also speedballing with coke throughout the whole day.  It was awesome because it didn't give me the nausea and headaches like oxycontin and roxis did.  But opanas also made me crazy as I eventually would black out...

So heroin wins, more euphoric and enjoyable.
Title: Re: Roxy 30's vs Heroin
Post by: anex45 on January 05, 2013, 11:13 am
I would take heroin (even low quality heroin) over Roxis any day....the other day when I ran out of dope I went through IVing 9 30mg Roxis throughout the day just trying to get some kind of decent high and I just couldn't :(.