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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: SirNomDePlum on June 29, 2013, 05:57 am

Title: Collected Quotations Of The Dread Pirate Roberts (As seen on Forbes) Part VII
Post by: SirNomDePlum on June 29, 2013, 05:57 am
 On the power held by large corporations:[/font]

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“The people who run corporations, heads of state, the person selling you food, you, me and every human being are all fallible and capable of using power to dominate other people. Liberty is not a pill that makes men angels. What it does do is limit the extent to which evil can be expressed in the world. Right now, in any given geographic area, we have a monopoly on many of the most vital social institutions that is maintained through violence. If voluntary organizations consolidate their power and turn on their customers and start stealing from them, putting them in cages, killing them, spying on them and telling them what they can and can’t do, well then we’re back to where we started, the present day state. But, if I am correct, and the pressure for those firms to compete with one another for our favor leads them to serve us, then we can have freedom and prosperity the likes of which the world has never known.”
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 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg499753#msg499753)[/font]
On environmentalism and sustainable economic growth:[/font]

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“This is where the institution of private property and markets really shine. Markets curb unsustainable growth through the price mechanism. As a needed resource is depleted, its supply drops and, assuming constant or rising demand, its price will rise. Rising prices force people to consume LESS of the resource and save more of it. Private property also incentivizes people to maximize the value of it. People tend to preserve and improve their land and capital. Free enterprise and private property, when honored, are an environmentalist’s dream.”
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 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg499753#msg499753)[/font]
On the minimum wage:[/font]

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“How about someone whose labor is worth less than minimum wage? These people are not allowed to work even if they are willing and able. They wind up homeless or in government programs where they get no productive skills. They don’t benefit, and the rest of us don’t benefit. If they were allowed to work, they could gain productive skills and work their way up above the “poverty line”, enriching themselves and others. Give them a chance.”
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 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg496906#msg496906)[/font]
On the idea of privatized instead of state-run police:[/font]

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 [/font]“State police scare the hell out of me. Who would you trust more, someone who you paid to protect you and who’s livelihood depends on your continuing to pay them, or someone who steals from you (taxes), buys guns with the money (FBI, DEA, ATF, Military, local and state police, etc.), and then forces you to do things against your will when you are not hurting anyone else?

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…Bullies are bad and should be spanked.”
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 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg496906#msg496906)[/font]
On the need for government:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“This may shock some of you to hear coming from me, but we absolutely NEED government, and good government at that. In fact, the services the current governments of the world monopolize or regulate are some of the most demanded and needed: security/defense, law, dispute resolution, education, healthcare, transportation, utilities, quality control etc.[/font]

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The question I present to you is, do we want a single entity monopolizing the provision of all of these critical goods and services, or do we want a choice?”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg493838#msg493838)[/font]
On DPR’s love for the Silk Road community:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“It’s a privilege to have a stage to speak from here. It doesn’t get said enough, and it is hard to get across in this medium, but… I love you.[/font]

[/font]
Who knew that a softy could lead an international narcotics organization? Behind my wall of anonymity, I don’t have to intimidate, thankfully. But yea, I love you guys. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being my comrades. Thank you for being yourselves and bringing your unique perspectives and energy. And on a personal note, thank you for giving me the best job in the world. I’ve never had so much fun! I know we’ve been at it for over a year now, but really, we are JUST getting started. I’m so excited and anxious for our future I could burst.”
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 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=16070.msg479258#msg479258)[/font]
On legalizing and taxing drugs:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“I keep hearing this argument come up when people talk about drug prohibition: legalize, regulate and tax it. On the surface it sounds like a good idea. No more drug war, more tax revenue, government regulators can make sure it is safe. Makes sense, right?[/font]

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I can’t help but think something is wrong though. Feels like the bastards that have been screwing everyone over all this time still win in this scenario. Now all that money can go to the state and to their cronies, right?[/font]

[/font]
Here’s the rub: the drug war is an acute symptom of a deeper problem, and that problem is the state. If they “legalize, regulate and tax” it, it’s just one more part of society under their thumb, another productive sector that they can leech off of.[/font]

[/font]
If prohibition is lifted, most people here will go away. You’ll go back to your lives and get your drugs from whatever state certified dispensaries are properly licensed to sell to you. Drug use will be as interesting as smoking and drinking.[/font]

[/font]
Here’s my point: Silk Road is about something much bigger than thumbing your nose at the man and getting your drugs anyway. It’s about taking back our liberty and our dignity and demanding justice. If prohibition is lifted, and the drug industry is placed under the yoke of the state, then we won in a small way, but lost in a big way. Right now, drugs are ours. They aren’t tainted by the government. We the people control their manufacture, distribution and consumption. We should be looking to expand that control, taking back our power, no giving what is ours to the very people that have been our enemies all along.[/font]

[/font]
It’s easy to justify though. Think of all the horrors the war on drugs has caused that will be gone, almost instantly. That pain could stop![/font]

[/font]
Don’t be tempted by this short-term easy fix of “let the government handle it.” Their time is coming to an end. The future is OUR time. Let us take this opportunity they’ve given us to gain a foothold from which we can throw that yoke off completely. We are NOT beasts of burden to be taxed and controlled and regulated. WE are free spirits! We DEMAND respect! The future can be a time where the human spirit flourishes, unbridled, wild and free! Don’t be so quick to put on that harness and pull for the parasites.[/font]

[/font]
If prohibition is lifted, where will you be? Will you forget about all this revolution stuff? Will you go back to ignoring that itching feeling that something isn’t right, that men in uniforms and behind desks have just a bit too much control over your life, and are taking more and more of your sovereignty every day? Will you go back to thinking that taxes are as inevitable as death and the best you can do is to pull as hard as you can for them until you mind, body and spirit are all used up? Or will you feel the loss, as one more wild west frontier comes under the dominion of the enemy, and redouble your efforts to stop it?[/font]

[/font]
I know where I’ll be. I won’t rest until children are born into a world where oppression, institutional violence and control, world war, and all the other hallmarks of the state are as ancient history as pharaohs commanding armies of slaves. The drug war merely brings to light their nature and shows us who they really are. Legalizing it won’t change that and will only make them stronger. Hold on to what you DO have, and stand for the freedom you deserve!”
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End Part VII, cont'd Part VIII
 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=20968.msg213208#msg213208)[/font]
 
Title: Re: Collected Quotations Of The Dread Pirate Roberts (As seen on Forbes) Part VII
Post by: domesticdoode on June 29, 2013, 09:13 am
On the power held by large corporations:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“The people who run corporations, heads of state, the person selling you food, you, me and every human being are all fallible and capable of using power to dominate other people. Liberty is not a pill that makes men angels. What it does do is limit the extent to which evil can be expressed in the world. Right now, in any given geographic area, we have a monopoly on many of the most vital social institutions that is maintained through violence. If voluntary organizations consolidate their power and turn on their customers and start stealing from them, putting them in cages, killing them, spying on them and telling them what they can and can’t do, well then we’re back to where we started, the present day state. But, if I am correct, and the pressure for those firms to compete with one another for our favor leads them to serve us, then we can have freedom and prosperity the likes of which the world has never known.”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg499753#msg499753)[/font]
On environmentalism and sustainable economic growth:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“This is where the institution of private property and markets really shine. Markets curb unsustainable growth through the price mechanism. As a needed resource is depleted, its supply drops and, assuming constant or rising demand, its price will rise. Rising prices force people to consume LESS of the resource and save more of it. Private property also incentivizes people to maximize the value of it. People tend to preserve and improve their land and capital. Free enterprise and private property, when honored, are an environmentalist’s dream.”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg499753#msg499753)[/font]
On the minimum wage:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“How about someone whose labor is worth less than minimum wage? These people are not allowed to work even if they are willing and able. They wind up homeless or in government programs where they get no productive skills. They don’t benefit, and the rest of us don’t benefit. If they were allowed to work, they could gain productive skills and work their way up above the “poverty line”, enriching themselves and others. Give them a chance.”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg496906#msg496906)[/font]
On the idea of privatized instead of state-run police:[/font]

[/font][/font]
 [/font]“State police scare the hell out of me. Who would you trust more, someone who you paid to protect you and who’s livelihood depends on your continuing to pay them, or someone who steals from you (taxes), buys guns with the money (FBI, DEA, ATF, Military, local and state police, etc.), and then forces you to do things against your will when you are not hurting anyone else?

[/font]
…Bullies are bad and should be spanked.”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg496906#msg496906)[/font]
On the need for government:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“This may shock some of you to hear coming from me, but we absolutely NEED government, and good government at that. In fact, the services the current governments of the world monopolize or regulate are some of the most demanded and needed: security/defense, law, dispute resolution, education, healthcare, transportation, utilities, quality control etc.[/font]

[/font]
The question I present to you is, do we want a single entity monopolizing the provision of all of these critical goods and services, or do we want a choice?”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=46460.msg493838#msg493838)[/font]
On DPR’s love for the Silk Road community:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“It’s a privilege to have a stage to speak from here. It doesn’t get said enough, and it is hard to get across in this medium, but… I love you.[/font]

[/font]
Who knew that a softy could lead an international narcotics organization? Behind my wall of anonymity, I don’t have to intimidate, thankfully. But yea, I love you guys. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being my comrades. Thank you for being yourselves and bringing your unique perspectives and energy. And on a personal note, thank you for giving me the best job in the world. I’ve never had so much fun! I know we’ve been at it for over a year now, but really, we are JUST getting started. I’m so excited and anxious for our future I could burst.”
[/font]

 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=16070.msg479258#msg479258)[/font]
On legalizing and taxing drugs:[/font]

[/font][/font]
“I keep hearing this argument come up when people talk about drug prohibition: legalize, regulate and tax it. On the surface it sounds like a good idea. No more drug war, more tax revenue, government regulators can make sure it is safe. Makes sense, right?[/font]

[/font]
I can’t help but think something is wrong though. Feels like the bastards that have been screwing everyone over all this time still win in this scenario. Now all that money can go to the state and to their cronies, right?[/font]

[/font]
Here’s the rub: the drug war is an acute symptom of a deeper problem, and that problem is the state. If they “legalize, regulate and tax” it, it’s just one more part of society under their thumb, another productive sector that they can leech off of.[/font]

[/font]
If prohibition is lifted, most people here will go away. You’ll go back to your lives and get your drugs from whatever state certified dispensaries are properly licensed to sell to you. Drug use will be as interesting as smoking and drinking.[/font]

[/font]
Here’s my point: Silk Road is about something much bigger than thumbing your nose at the man and getting your drugs anyway. It’s about taking back our liberty and our dignity and demanding justice. If prohibition is lifted, and the drug industry is placed under the yoke of the state, then we won in a small way, but lost in a big way. Right now, drugs are ours. They aren’t tainted by the government. We the people control their manufacture, distribution and consumption. We should be looking to expand that control, taking back our power, no giving what is ours to the very people that have been our enemies all along.[/font]

[/font]
It’s easy to justify though. Think of all the horrors the war on drugs has caused that will be gone, almost instantly. That pain could stop![/font]

[/font]
Don’t be tempted by this short-term easy fix of “let the government handle it.” Their time is coming to an end. The future is OUR time. Let us take this opportunity they’ve given us to gain a foothold from which we can throw that yoke off completely. We are NOT beasts of burden to be taxed and controlled and regulated. WE are free spirits! We DEMAND respect! The future can be a time where the human spirit flourishes, unbridled, wild and free! Don’t be so quick to put on that harness and pull for the parasites.[/font]

[/font]
If prohibition is lifted, where will you be? Will you forget about all this revolution stuff? Will you go back to ignoring that itching feeling that something isn’t right, that men in uniforms and behind desks have just a bit too much control over your life, and are taking more and more of your sovereignty every day? Will you go back to thinking that taxes are as inevitable as death and the best you can do is to pull as hard as you can for them until you mind, body and spirit are all used up? Or will you feel the loss, as one more wild west frontier comes under the dominion of the enemy, and redouble your efforts to stop it?[/font]

[/font]
I know where I’ll be. I won’t rest until children are born into a world where oppression, institutional violence and control, world war, and all the other hallmarks of the state are as ancient history as pharaohs commanding armies of slaves. The drug war merely brings to light their nature and shows us who they really are. Legalizing it won’t change that and will only make them stronger. Hold on to what you DO have, and stand for the freedom you deserve!”
[/font]


###


End Part VII, cont'd Part VIII
 (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=20968.msg213208#msg213208)[/font]

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