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Title: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on June 27, 2012, 03:08 pm
I ordered a gram of #3 from c63amg

Upon further investigation/reading on Erowid that the dosage for snorting it should be between 10-50mg

This means that I ordered anywhere from 20 to 100 doses.

Did I really go that overboard?

No 'send it to me' comment please - genuinely curious.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 27, 2012, 03:25 pm
i bought a quarter gram of #4 for my first time and that lasted me a few months. just be careful mate, someone on here has vanished recently after trying H for the first time, and he had #3. H does last a long time in your system as well, so take it easy when re-dosing

if you haven't already you might want to read the OP here as well - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23080.0

this is the big time now baby ;)
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on June 27, 2012, 03:33 pm
I'm in my late 20's and tried H a few times about 8 years ago. Only snorting it. I remember I bought 5 'bags' or whatever they were called and it lasted me like 3 days.

When I was a teen I was balls to the wall into drugs, but mostly drinking, coke, and ecstasy. I could go through an 8ball of coke in a day or two.

But that was a long time ago and I know H is different.

I've been reading through that post before you linked it and that's what is putting me off.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on June 27, 2012, 04:24 pm
Hmm. Reading through some of these threads is scary.

People getting sick and addicted so fast.

Maybe I'll throw most of it away when I get it and only keep a small bit
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: war on June 27, 2012, 04:31 pm
Best thread title of all time haha sorry OP in regards to if you should sell/give/throw it away, if you feel that you are getting addicted to any substance then you should get rid of it immediately. 
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: jh0000n on June 27, 2012, 05:21 pm
@curiouse dont worry man youll be fine. 1 gram of #3 isnt going to be that much as its probably only 40-50% pure at best. The dosage your reading on erowid of 10-50mg is reffering to 70-90% pure #4. Even with no tolerance youll probably still need to use between 80-150mg probably more. So you really only have about 10 doses there really if your snorting. Dont take my word for it ALWAYS start small and work your way up to judge the strength... small lines every 10 minutes until you get where you want to be.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on June 27, 2012, 05:44 pm
I was wondering about that.

Since I can remember I've always been using Erowid for learning about drugs so I give the website a lot of trust, but I last time I did H I certainly snorted more than 10mgs.

Still feeling a bit sketched out about ordering it after reading all the posts. I'm pretty settled & 'successful' in life to the point where the financial loss of pitching a $110 gram of H wouldn't hurt.

I just don't want to fuck it all up and get addicted.

Matchhead size bumps? That seems awfully small. Seems like you'd get 40+ of them out of a gram
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Ben on June 30, 2012, 12:39 am
Getting 40 out of a gram is not that crazy really.

If you have no experience with opiates, 10 mg of heroin can certainly produce a noticeable effect. Perhaps even smaller doses could work - people commonly respond to 10 to 20 mg doses of morphine in a hospital setting, and with the relative potencies of these drugs that suggests heroin could have effects at the few milligram level already.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: RomanTotaleXVII on June 30, 2012, 01:01 am
I was wondering about that.

Since I can remember I've always been using Erowid for learning about drugs so I give the website a lot of trust, but I last time I did H I certainly snorted more than 10mgs.

Still feeling a bit sketched out about ordering it after reading all the posts. I'm pretty settled & 'successful' in life to the point where the financial loss of pitching a $110 gram of H wouldn't hurt.

I just don't want to fuck it all up and get addicted.

Matchhead size bumps? That seems awfully small. Seems like you'd get 40+ of them out of a gram

You're not going to get addicted by a single gram of heroin, it's just not possible. That's not to say you might like the stuff enough to order again and then get addicted so make sure you have a break every couple of weeks if you find yourself taking it every day. It's insidious stuff if you have a liking for it.

And like everyone says start small until you know how strong the stuff is, snorting a match head sized amount is a good starting point and give it 1/2 hour between bumps till you get the measure of the stuff. You could also chase the dragon which will give you a more immediate effect and you can repeat at will rather than wait.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: gambino on June 30, 2012, 06:24 am
Not to get all holier than thou, but why mess with heroin if you are worried about addiction?  There are so many other drugs you can get on SR that are enjoyable and don't have the addiction potential.  2C-B comes to mind as one example of many.  Again, not trying to be holier than thou.  I'm a drug user too.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: weedsaves on June 30, 2012, 07:46 am
A gram is a fuckload of H for a noob. If it was me I would probably flush .9g down the drain and then start using. Unless you really want to go down that road...

I almost made the mistake of buying a gram. It just seems like such a standard, small amount. I am sure it would've been the end of me. Raoul Duke's thread honestly opened my eyes to how tricky of a temptress heroin is.

Do the right thing for you. Only you know.

Good luck,

weedsaves
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: HOUSE on June 30, 2012, 04:33 pm
I honestly cannot understand how you fuckers treat this shit like it was candy.

Seriously, we don't need shit like this on SR. Heroin is a serious drug.

In the interest of harm reduction, here goes: Find a seasoned junky, ask him to try it out before you do to figure out potency. Then he/she can gauge how much of a dose you need. And if all else fails, be there to call an ambulance if you need it.

Let me say that one more time. DON'T DO HEROIN OF UNKNOWN POTENCY BY YOURSELF.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: gambino on June 30, 2012, 05:13 pm
I honestly cannot understand how you fuckers treat this shit like it was candy.

Seriously, we don't need shit like this on SR. Heroin is a serious drug.

In the interest of harm reduction, here goes: Find a seasoned junky, ask him to try it out before you do to figure out potency. Then he/she can gauge how much of a dose you need. And if all else fails, be there to call an ambulance if you need it.

Let me say that one more time. DON'T DO HEROIN OF UNKNOWN POTENCY BY YOURSELF.

I'm not a heroin user, but I KNOW there's got to be better harm reduction advice than "find a junkie and ask him to try it out for you."  Seriously, there's a better way.  (Not to mention moral and ethical issues of using another human being as a guinea pig.)

After all, if the product actually is heroin, then there's a maximum potency which corresponds to the heroin being 100% pure.  If you actually weigh your dose and start small, say 5 mg, I don't see how you could OD.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: captainjojo on June 30, 2012, 05:44 pm
House, asking some other person to do some and then tell you how much to do is just asking for trouble.  They could say it was shit and tell him 100mg is a good starting dose, which if he has no tolerance would be enough to make him overdose.

Fortunately the starting dose for people without any opiate tolerance is fairly well know by now.  As most of the users have already indicated, start with a line of about 10mg the first time, wait at least 30-60 minutes after the first hit before even trying a second dose and don't go chasing the rush for the next 4-5 hours doing 200-300mg as it will accumulate and more than likely put the person into at least a mild overdose with headaches and vomiting.

I've been doing it for years and even with a high tolerance I never do more than 50mg on the first hit of a new batch until I am sure how strongly it will effect me.

Now, the bit about becoming addicted after doing only one gram.  If you go and do the entire gram over the course of a couple of days, yes, your body is quite likely to show its displeasure when you stop.  It won't be as bad as if you had been doing several grams over the course of a week, but you will notice it.  Be prepared for flu like symptoms, the better the H, the worse the WD's will be.  But it shouldn't last too long, possibly a day or so to get over the worst (although everybody is different and it could be less or it could be more).

If you spread it out over several weeks you should be fine, your body won't ever have enough in its system for it to start noticing its absence.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: HOUSE on June 30, 2012, 05:49 pm
I'm not a heroin user

Nuff said.

Seriously then, don't take my advice. Just do it yourself, don't let more experienced users help you. Have fun.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on July 01, 2012, 02:56 pm
Thanks for all the comments.

Well, it arrived on Friday (very fast with C63amg to EU).

Just got around to trying it today. Did the smallest of bumps about 30 minutes ago and barely feel anything, so I'll repeat the same dose.


A gram is really a shit ton of powder given the potency of the stuff. I just thought "coke" when I was ordering the gram before looking on Erowid for dosage.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on July 01, 2012, 03:03 pm
House, asking some other person to do some and then tell you how much to do is just asking for trouble.  They could say it was shit and tell him 100mg is a good starting dose, which if he has no tolerance would be enough to make him overdose.

Fortunately the starting dose for people without any opiate tolerance is fairly well know by now.  As most of the users have already indicated, start with a line of about 10mg the first time, wait at least 30-60 minutes after the first hit before even trying a second dose and don't go chasing the rush for the next 4-5 hours doing 200-300mg as it will accumulate and more than likely put the person into at least a mild overdose with headaches and vomiting.

I've been doing it for years and even with a high tolerance I never do more than 50mg on the first hit of a new batch until I am sure how strongly it will effect me.


Yeah, I remember when I first did H in my early 20's. I had come back from University and did it with a friend who used intravenously. My first lines were considerably larger than the ones I did just now, and I ended up throwing up a bunch of times.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on July 04, 2012, 03:40 pm
Update:

Well, I've been giving it the ole' college try and trying to power through this gram. I'm probably about 60% through the bag.

This really hasn't been doing much for me. I am able to 'nod off' but then I wake up multiple times in the night, almost every hour on the hour.

At work I feel like shit. Not like I need to vomit just like I have no brain. Hallow upstairs. I almost fell asleep a few times today in a meeting from tiredness.

I thought I read heroin was supposed to make you sleep like a rock!

I'll do a bit more tonight and tomorrow then call it quits with H. Nothing really fun about it.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: müslix on July 04, 2012, 04:28 pm
hi. h noob here.

why do h listings have numbers? #3? #4?
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: alanko007 on July 04, 2012, 07:22 pm
I have also had my first H a few days ago. I ordered 0,5g from c63amg and went through it in 2 days without feeling any effects. Maybe just slight relaxation but that is all. I too have been waking up during the night...strange...makes me think what kind of crap we got...I am never ordering from c63 again and I think he is bullshitting new buyers and sends them low-quality product. Just my opinion.

@ muslix: The numbers indicate various forms of heroin.
Heroin #1: Morphine Freebase or Morphine HCL
Heroin #2: Heroin Acetate or Heroin Freebase
Heroin #3: #4 heroin but specifically altered at the POM (Point of Manufacture) to make it conducive for smoking. The technical definition is a 60:40 mix, with 60 representing heroin hcl. and 40 representing caffeine hcl.
Heroin #4: Heroin hcl made specifically for injection.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 04, 2012, 07:26 pm
#3 is for smoking or spiking. Not half as potent if snorted. #4 destroys you snorted so I imagine it totally fucks you up if smoked or jabbed.

Only done #4 myself, but I got this info from other stuff I've read here. a small bump (<10 mg) of #4 up the hooter fucking annihilated me. It's too nice.

I'm glad you didn't like it mate, it nearly wrote my life off from doing a ridiculously small amount. Just chalk it up to an experience - tried it and got away with it - I win :)
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: tordemon on July 05, 2012, 02:17 am
You can definitely do it, but you have to be careful. I've never had problems when I didn't have heroin around, and actually have never experienced any withdrawal symptoms, but when I have it I tend to take it habitually.

My first batch of heroin was a half gram, and I got it to last me almost 6 months between being snorted and smoked (snorting was more effective, but I wanted to try both). I see you didn't enjoy it at first, but I honestly didn't enjoy mine at first, either. In a way, it's an acquired taste (in my opinion) in the same way that coffee is.

Now when I get it, I typically only smoke it. My tolerance can sky-rocket very quickly, unfortunately. As an example, having not taken any heroin in in about a month and a half, I bought another 2 grams of it not too long ago. I managed to smoke all of it in the course of 4 days, with my tolerance building up to 175mg dosages by the end of the 4th day. That was about a week ago, and while I'll probably want to take some again sometime, I experienced no problems afterwards and don't have a desire to buy another batch with any immediacy.

I'd suggest that you make every effort to only take single dosages at a time. If you don't feel like you got high enough, that's fine, you can try a larger dose again in a few days. If you think that you're starting to develop a problem with it, just throw it out then. I don't know how many people can handle heroin as easily as I can, but I wouldn't count on it.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: SpiceTrader on July 05, 2012, 09:00 am
i bought a quarter gram of #4 for my first time and that lasted me a few months. just be careful mate, someone on here has vanished recently after trying H for the first time, and he had #3. H does last a long time in your system as well, so take it easy when re-dosing

if you haven't already you might want to read the OP here as well - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23080.0

this is the big time now baby ;)

Yeah dude, i order 500 mg from psilo , ODed my first time, had a 50 mg shot, redosed with 100mg an hour later and fucked myself over.... Really scared myself.....

Just be really really really cautious , if you do redose, i would suggest doing it lots of halves of your original dose, just to be on the safe side...
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: SpiceTrader on July 05, 2012, 09:03 am
A gram is a fuckload of H for a noob. If it was me I would probably flush .9g down the drain and then start using. Unless you really want to go down that road...

I almost made the mistake of buying a gram. It just seems like such a standard, small amount. I am sure it would've been the end of me. Raoul Duke's thread honestly opened my eyes to how tricky of a temptress heroin is.

Do the right thing for you. Only you know.

Good luck,

weedsaves
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Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Hungry ghost on July 05, 2012, 01:52 pm
Hi, the best way with no.3 is to smoke it on tinfoil. Snorting it works but I have seen someone OD from snorting lines too quick. Cos it hits you more or less instantly smoking you're more likely to nod out before getting to OD stage.
Get a sheet of foil about postcard size . Burn it both sides with a lighter to get rid of any coating. Get another piece and make a tube.( fold in edges to make rectangle then if you like fold in like start of paper plane) before rolling round a pen into a tube shape. The pointy style is alleged to collect more residue but learned opinion varies.

Place maybe 1/4 g on foil, after bending it so as to form a valley(don't crease). Hold lighter underneath powder and tilt foil slightly, it will melt to treacle like fluid. Chase it with lighter beneath foil. Suck hard through tube as you do this inhaling vapour. Don't overdo the heat.

Theres a bit of a knack to this ( like injecting one handed !) so if you prefer you can 'spot' much smaller doses: just hold the lighter underneath till its all burnt up. Again be careful because if you do way too much this way you can OD.

I would disagree with the poster who says little doses over a few weeks is less likely to cause problems than hammering it all in a weekend. I'd say the opposite.

I have been  using opiates for nearly 20 years now. Started like you just trying it, for maybe five or six years it was just an occasional treat. Then certain events in my life caused a severe depression and I turned to smack for solace. I was an IV addict for masybe six years, more recently I gained some control and for a few years would have the odd binge every couple weeks, dealing with withdrawals inbetweeen by methadone and codeine and benzos. I was a functional drug addict, if you know what I mean. Worked  several jobs throughout. The last five years I have been on subutex which effectively makes it very difficult to get high as it blocks other opiates totally for 3-4 days after a dose. I take it daily to prevent returning to my old ways. I have 2 small children who I love more than anything. I live with their mother and them now and my old life seems like a bad dream. My younger brother died about 4 years ago as a result of alcohol choking in sleep and this obviously made me reconsider a lot iof choices I had made. (he liked a lot of drugs too although not so much H)

       I guess I am trying to say that those rat like human skeletons you see walking too fast in pairs to phone booths all started like you: thinking " well I'll just give it a try, obviously I won't get addicted! I'm not that stupid"
You don't wake up one day and think "I think I'm gonna be a junky"
It creeps insidiously up on you in your blind spot.
Once a month treat becomes every two weeks becomes a long weekend but hey I'm not addicted cos I stopped for four day. Then one day you wake up feeling this intense discomfort and you think " right. Obviously I have a problem.... But I cant think straight feeling like this. Let's just get a bag of gear to get through the next couple of days then I'll take some time off and go cold turkey" just one more day.

Anyway... er.... that's how you smoke heroin....sorry about rant! Be careful mate because once you know it's there, even if you don't think you like it at first.
You'll think " well maybe I got a bad batch....I'll give it one more try... just to see...."

Since discovering SR I have made a couple of attempts to get high; but by the time the subutex wears off I have caned most of it leaving me with a weak buzz and intense shame and self disgust making me glad to put basck on the subutex handcuffs. Most people I know have no idea about my past. It's fucking weird. Your probably thinking "if he loves his kids so much why would he still want to take heroin?" I dont know.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Hungry ghost on July 05, 2012, 02:19 pm
I know. I know. Talk about a buzz kill. On the plus side it is an extremely pleasant drug, and it won't turn you into an obnoxious loudmouth like cocaine. And in fairness I have known a couple of people who were able to have the odd bit of brown without ever getting seriously hooked. Mostly people with wealthy supportive families and plenty of options.
Also a lot of my friends who got habits to one extent or another have recovered again to varying degrees.

And it is a fucking nice drug. You see I can't bring myself to totally bad mouth it even now!
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: c63amg on July 08, 2012, 08:33 pm

New Heroin Batch







New Heroin Batch In Stock

Will begin shipping the new batch on monday





regards,



c63amg
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: om on July 12, 2012, 05:52 am
I have also had my first H a few days ago. I ordered 0,5g from c63amg and went through it in 2 days without feeling any effects. Maybe just slight relaxation but that is all. I too have been waking up during the night...strange...makes me think what kind of crap we got...I am never ordering from c63 again and I think he is bullshitting new buyers and sends them low-quality product. Just my opinion.

@ muslix: The numbers indicate various forms of heroin.
Heroin #1: Morphine Freebase or Morphine HCL
Heroin #2: Heroin Acetate or Heroin Freebase
Heroin #3: #4 heroin but specifically altered at the POM (Point of Manufacture) to make it conducive for smoking. The technical definition is a 60:40 mix, with 60 representing heroin hcl. and 40 representing caffeine hcl.
Heroin #4: Heroin hcl made specifically for injection.

Yeah I also wake up many times a night with c63's gear... weird.

And I thought that #3 was freebase heroin, mixed with caffeine to help it smoke, whereas #4 has been processed into the salt. That's why you need to acidify #3 to get it to dissolve, whereas #4 doesn't need acid.

Maybe there was some international symposium where all the heroin producers agreed to this 60:40 ratio with caffeine for #3... ;)

What's your source on that info?
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on July 12, 2012, 06:47 pm
Either way, I never really liked downers. Hell, I used to smoke weed all the time, but after a point I started getting lots of panic attacks. Now it happens every time I smoke so I don't anymore. I suspect it is some cross interaction from all the psychedelics I did in my teens.

Will continue to stick to ecstasy or MDA once or twice a month and coke a few times a year. And of course drinking!
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on July 12, 2012, 07:02 pm
Lmao @ the c63 ad in the H harm reduction post.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: CyborgUK on July 12, 2012, 07:13 pm
simple answer - no, you can never have enough heroin.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on July 12, 2012, 07:16 pm
simple answer - no, you can never have enough heroin.

lol -- I was waiting for that answer!

Lmao @ the c63 ad in the H harm reduction post.  ;D ;D ;D

Why the hell not?  ;D Business is business
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Ahoyhoy on July 12, 2012, 09:11 pm
I ordered a gram of #3 from c63amg

Upon further investigation/reading on Erowid that the dosage for snorting it should be between 10-50mg

This means that I ordered anywhere from 20 to 100 doses.

Did I really go that overboard?

No 'send it to me' comment please - genuinely curious.

You can't really snort number 3. Number 4 (HCL) is for snorting. I think you can mix number 3 with citric acid and drop it in your nose...
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: curious_eltern on July 12, 2012, 10:13 pm
I ordered a gram of #3 from c63amg

Upon further investigation/reading on Erowid that the dosage for snorting it should be between 10-50mg

This means that I ordered anywhere from 20 to 100 doses.

Did I really go that overboard?

No 'send it to me' comment please - genuinely curious.

You can't really snort number 3. Number 4 (HCL) is for snorting. I think you can mix number 3 with citric acid and drop it in your nose...

Part of me hopes you are right, and the other half hopes you are wrong.

If it works just like #4 but with a lower level of heroin in the mix, then I think I dosed appropriately.

If not, and #4 is fundamentally different, I might have to keep my eye open for it.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: smokeweed420 on July 15, 2012, 02:51 am
the first time i got heroin i got .5g of potent #4 and i shared it with my friend and we were high all day for 3 days straight. but after that i realized that if i continued to use heroin i would become very addicted. so now if i get any i either order a couple stamp bags, or .2 of tar.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Ahoyhoy on July 15, 2012, 09:18 am
I ordered a gram of #3 from c63amg

Upon further investigation/reading on Erowid that the dosage for snorting it should be between 10-50mg

This means that I ordered anywhere from 20 to 100 doses.

Did I really go that overboard?

No 'send it to me' comment please - genuinely curious.

You can't really snort number 3. Number 4 (HCL) is for snorting. I think you can mix number 3 with citric acid and drop it in your nose...

Part of me hopes you are right, and the other half hopes you are wrong.

If it works just like #4 but with a lower level of heroin in the mix, then I think I dosed appropriately.

If not, and #4 is fundamentally different, I might have to keep my eye open for it.



The problem is that #3 is not water soluble and therefore when you put it up your nose it simply cakes into a nasty snotty mess without dissolving and becoming bioavailable. Mixing it with citric acid and water renders it water soluble but the amount of active ingredient released is still low compared to #4. You could squirt 0.5g of dissolved #3 up your ass and not get a nod (not that I'm suggesting you do so). #3 is for smoking or IV-ing only.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: variant on July 15, 2012, 02:19 pm
I ordered a gram of #3 from c63amg

Upon further investigation/reading on Erowid that the dosage for snorting it should be between 10-50mg

This means that I ordered anywhere from 20 to 100 doses.

Did I really go that overboard?

No 'send it to me' comment please - genuinely curious.

You can't really snort number 3. Number 4 (HCL) is for snorting. I think you can mix number 3 with citric acid and drop it in your nose...

Part of me hopes you are right, and the other half hopes you are wrong.

If it works just like #4 but with a lower level of heroin in the mix, then I think I dosed appropriately.

If not, and #4 is fundamentally different, I might have to keep my eye open for it.



The problem is that #3 is not water soluble and therefore when you put it up your nose it simply cakes into a nasty snotty mess without dissolving and becoming bioavailable. Mixing it with citric acid and water renders it water soluble but the amount of active ingredient released is still low compared to #4. You could squirt 0.5g of dissolved #3 up your ass and not get a nod (not that I'm suggesting you do so). #3 is for smoking or IV-ing only.

i thought you could snort heroin #3 since the liquids in your nose are slightly acid anyways most heroin #3 vendors are advertising that

ROA:
1.SMOKING - Best possible option for smokers on SR. Runs on foil forever.
2.Snorting works fine as well since liquid inside your nose is slightly acidic.   <-------
3.IV - This is BASE so it will need help of citric acid to dissolve in water (or few drops of lemon or ascorbic acid/vit C)
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Ahoyhoy on July 16, 2012, 04:42 pm
I ordered a gram of #3 from c63amg

Upon further investigation/reading on Erowid that the dosage for snorting it should be between 10-50mg

This means that I ordered anywhere from 20 to 100 doses.

Did I really go that overboard?

No 'send it to me' comment please - genuinely curious.

You can't really snort number 3. Number 4 (HCL) is for snorting. I think you can mix number 3 with citric acid and drop it in your nose...

Part of me hopes you are right, and the other half hopes you are wrong.

If it works just like #4 but with a lower level of heroin in the mix, then I think I dosed appropriately.

If not, and #4 is fundamentally different, I might have to keep my eye open for it.



The problem is that #3 is not water soluble and therefore when you put it up your nose it simply cakes into a nasty snotty mess without dissolving and becoming bioavailable. Mixing it with citric acid and water renders it water soluble but the amount of active ingredient released is still low compared to #4. You could squirt 0.5g of dissolved #3 up your ass and not get a nod (not that I'm suggesting you do so). #3 is for smoking or IV-ing only.

i thought you could snort heroin #3 since the liquids in your nose are slightly acid anyways most heroin #3 vendors are advertising that

ROA:
1.SMOKING - Best possible option for smokers on SR. Runs on foil forever.
2.Snorting works fine as well since liquid inside your nose is slightly acidic.   <-------
3.IV - This is BASE so it will need help of citric acid to dissolve in water (or few drops of lemon or ascorbic acid/vit C)


Unless it's high purity #3 (Turkey?) it would be a waste of time to snort IMO. Afghan H will not work up your nose.
At a push you could mix Afghan with water and pure citric acid and squirt it up your nose but I wouldn't be expecting a decent nod.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: nospainnogain on July 17, 2012, 02:50 am
I would set aside around .1-.2g for use then just try snorting a matchhead sized bump. Give it like half an hour for you to get a feel for the effects if any and take another bump if necessary! Then when you start nodding a lot, hide the other ~.8g and you won't be able to find it! You could also get super super tiny plastic baggies that are like .5x.5 inch that are hella cute and split it up into 10 baggies and hide it in different places! You def won't be able to find quite a few of the baggies! And then, you'll randomly find a small baggy of bliss every now and then! Losing drugs is the best way to control drug use IMO :3
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: c63amg on July 26, 2012, 08:12 am
Hello Everybody,




A New Heroin Batch Arrived And It's Up There With The Best.


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I'm Gong To Sell Sample of The New batch for 18USD So That Everybody Can Have A Taste And Rate This Strong Batch.
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The Link Will be Up Tomorrow and The Shipping Will Start On Monday.
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Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: Irumi on July 26, 2012, 11:20 am
Getting 40 out of a gram is not that crazy really.

If you have no experience with opiates, 10 mg of heroin can certainly produce a noticeable effect. Perhaps even smaller doses could work - people commonly respond to 10 to 20 mg doses of morphine in a hospital setting, and with the relative potencies of these drugs that suggests heroin could have effects at the few milligram level already.

10-20mg in cumulative of course; not at once. Usually in the hospital setting Morphine is ordered 2mg PRN IV or is set up on a PCI pump that only allows a certain amount to be infused every 6 minutes or so.

A straight 10-20mg IV shot of Morphine might cause someone to OD, that is unless you are an experienced opiate addict or someone on hospice care.
Title: Re: Did I order too much heroin?
Post by: c63amg on July 26, 2012, 06:15 pm


Sample Packages Of My New Heroin Batch




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I will have this batch for a duration of 2, 3 weeks.



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The packages includes around the 0.25g of H.



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