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Title: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Xanthis on June 08, 2013, 08:30 pm
What is, in your opinion, the most profitable illicit substance on Silk Road that you can (realistically) be your own supplier of?

Curious as to the consensus.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: thegoodgirl82 on June 08, 2013, 08:50 pm
I would guess that it is heroin or cocaine, mainly due to the fact that its very rare the substances are pure and the price in the nations that produce these drugs is VERY cheap!

I have been to a few South American countries and the price there was maybe 10-15,000 UK pounds for a kilo. So, if you had relatives back home who could buy the uncut coke from the lab then you would make 120,000 including the package and postage.

Heroin, I don't know much about it but I guess its about the same.

I think a lot of stuff comes into the UK via family connections back home. I would never use heroin so would certainly never sell it.

As for selling cocaine, I leave that to those who accept the risk that goes with it.

Although over 100,000 profit might sound a bit too much, the risk taken justifies the profit.

I have never smuggled cocaine although its very tempting with the quality and price in places like Mexico or Columbia.

Sending a bit back by post sounds the best option!

Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: talawtam on June 08, 2013, 09:05 pm
depends on where you live tbh... i'd say mdma if you're planning on buying from the road and re selling
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: ytabletrash on June 08, 2013, 09:08 pm
Strictly from prices on the road, 25 i-nbome. Costs~ 30 cents a dose and you can sell em 5-10$ a dose. Only difficult part is getting a user base as you build tolerance too much for people to use it regularly. Other than that I would say MDMA or M1. Costs ~200$ for 10g (67-100 doses) which you can sell .1g- .15g for $20 a piece in clubs/festivals ($1340-$2000)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 08, 2013, 09:11 pm
If you mean selling on the road then LSD.  A hundred doses costs less than a penny to produce. :)

You can lay nine thousand and ninety one 110ug blotter tabs with one gram of LSD crystal.  Or you can lay a bible of 100ug hits.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Mister7102 on June 08, 2013, 11:23 pm
Wow I really need to score a gram of LSD crystal!!!
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 08, 2013, 11:27 pm
I would kill to have the chance to smuggle cocaine... So much money Involved, but I can't really fly to mexico and ask around for a cheap kilo.....
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: acidicmonkey on June 09, 2013, 01:18 am
If you mean selling on the road then LSD.  A hundred doses costs less than a penny to produce. :)

You can lay nine thousand and ninety one 110ug blotter tabs with one gram of LSD crystal.  Or you can lay a bible of 100ug hits.

Wow I really need to score a gram of LSD crystal!!!

I heard Limitless will soon be offering LSD crystal if you look around the forum he has stated that he is very close to being able to offer this product.
 
Check out his vendor page  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/fa89fcfcd2
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: acidicmonkey on June 09, 2013, 01:21 am
I would also kill to offer the purest cocaine. If this was at all possible I would assume that I could go to La Paz, Bolivia to seek out a supplier. Always great to make connections in other countries. My only concern would be getting it back to the US.  I am not sure how I would be able to get back great product.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: acidicmonkey on June 09, 2013, 01:23 am
Although thinking on the most profitable substance I would have to go with marijuana, the reason being you can grow it yourself and then dry and ship it.  It is not very difficult to grow and it requires no alteration like heroin or cocaine. 
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 09, 2013, 01:28 am
Although thinking on the most profitable substance I would have to go with marijuana, the reason being you can grow it yourself and then dry and ship it.  It is not very difficult to grow and it requires no alteration like heroin or cocaine.

It costs a lot of time and electricity.  You can only grow so much without being noticed.  1,000 watt HID per bedroom in your house is a good general rule to follow.  Not very profitable to be honest.  It is also very large and smelly but that has to do with security not profit.

Once again, LSD.  Pretty damn cheap to synthesize a kilogram and a kilogram is worth 50 million dollars if you sell sheets of 100ug/tab for $500 on here.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: le botbahn on June 09, 2013, 08:48 pm
I'm certain that nobody who has posted is capable of synthing their own LSD or even sourcing their own grams for that matter.

Notice OPs use of the word "realistically". He means something that you are actually capable of doing if you wanted to.

Of course LSD is probably the most profitable item if you can get it from the source. Everyone knows this.

And weed isn't so illegal or such hassle everywhere. Some parts of the US and Canada you don't have those "security" limits you speak of. It can be very profitable for some.

Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 09, 2013, 08:53 pm
Although thinking on the most profitable substance I would have to go with marijuana, the reason being you can grow it yourself and then dry and ship it.  It is not very difficult to grow and it requires no alteration like heroin or cocaine.

It costs a lot of time and electricity.  You can only grow so much without being noticed.  1,000 watt HID per bedroom in your house is a good general rule to follow.  Not very profitable to be honest.  It is also very large and smelly but that has to do with security not profit.

Once again, LSD.  Pretty damn cheap to synthesize a kilogram and a kilogram is worth 50 million dollars if you sell sheets of 100ug/tab for $500 on here.

GEE WILIKERS BATMAN! 50 milion dollars?! are you serious?

I agree about marijuana being more of a hassle. It's just as easy to hide a kilo of cocaine as It Is to hide a lb of weed.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: jackofspades on June 09, 2013, 09:59 pm
You have to think about other factors if you actually plan on putting this into action, such as buying in bulk can be expensive to start unless you already have a somewhat large sum to invest in drugs.

Id say coke is your best bet because its a good deal in bulk, you have a guaranteed market (that is probably growing every day) and its a sched II not schedule I drug in USA idk about elsewhere, so if you get caught its not as bad as getting busted with acid.

I cant wait for the day where i see sheets for $500 and consistent...fingers are definitely crossed to see that soon.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: le botbahn on June 09, 2013, 11:11 pm
You have to think about other factors if you actually plan on putting this into action, such as buying in bulk can be expensive to start unless you already have a somewhat large sum to invest in drugs.

Id say coke is your best bet because its a good deal in bulk, you have a guaranteed market (that is probably growing every day) and its a sched II not schedule I drug in USA idk about elsewhere, so if you get caught its not as bad as getting busted with acid.

I cant wait for the day where i see sheets for $500 and consistent...fingers are definitely crossed to see that soon.
Mandatory minimum sentencing can make the schedule of a substance somewhat irrelevant when comparing equally profitable quantities of substances like LSD or cocaine.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: oldtoby on June 10, 2013, 01:04 am
If LSD were easy to synthesize, the Pickard bust wouldn't have had such a dramatic effect on supply.

I'd like to practice alchemy, too. Plenty of lead around.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Inorganik on June 10, 2013, 04:17 am
If LSD were easy to synthesize, the Pickard bust wouldn't have had such a dramatic effect on supply.

I'd like to practice alchemy, too. Plenty of lead around.

I was going to say something similar to this. To all the people mentioning that LSD is largely profitable, I can see where you're coming from. But I always thought of LSD as being THE hardest drug to synthesize; you have to find precursors available out in bum-fucked Egypt. Then again, the whole '90% drop in availability' is only a rough estimate by the DEA (notoriously known for being lying bastards). IDK, anyone else around here with more knowledge than I?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 10, 2013, 04:51 am
If LSD were easy to synthesize, the Pickard bust wouldn't have had such a dramatic effect on supply.

I'd like to practice alchemy, too. Plenty of lead around.

I was going to say something similar to this. To all the people mentioning that LSD is largely profitable, I can see where you're coming from. But I always thought of LSD as being THE hardest drug to synthesize; you have to find precursors available out in bum-fucked Egypt. Then again, the whole '90% drop in availability' is only a rough estimate by the DEA (notoriously known for being lying bastards). IDK, anyone else around here with more knowledge than I?

I do believe it is the hardest to complete.  The question at hand wasn't what is the easiest, it was what is the most profitable.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: cicatrix on June 10, 2013, 06:25 am
I was going to say heroin but there are more coke users, so, technically even though cheaper yu'll make more with coke.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 12:17 pm
Dude, I bought like 10 grams of 25I-NBOMe and it was the purest fucking nbome I have ever seen, I mean pure white crystals, no tan or light brown color!? Custom synthed from china for like a couple hundred bucks, paired that with some HPBCD and laid 100 STRONG ass blotters and currently selling those for no cheaper than a hundred bucks a sheet, thats over 1000% profit in case your not too good at math, and I've kickstarted the marketing of it to where I am almost getting rid of 10 sheets every 2 to 3 weeks, bank bank bank bro! Also, Mushrooms! If you can learn to grow some mushrooms with even just an 80% success rate, which I do not think is very hard if you pay good attention to small details. You can literally grow a pound of mushrooms in like a month for literally less than 100 bucks, thats over 1000% profit too, with a little more work, but mushrooms are the bomb! I actualy just ordered some penis envy live cultures in a syringe, cant wait to get those suckers goin =) The only way you could even get close to those profit margins is synthesizing your own drugs, which most people dont do (hence why drugs are so expensive... lol) Man if I could get my hands on even just like 200 milligrams or 100 milligrams of some pure LSD crystal I would be fucking straight Wadlley Toddely! whatever the hell that means
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 10, 2013, 12:34 pm
Well this question has too many variables to be answered properly.
You could grow opium and produce your own heroin, or grow weed, or synthesize LSD or cook meth or MDMA.
There are so many things to consider. Or would you just buy product from a supplier.

Do you work it out per gram or per hour of effort involved?

LSD crystal is something like $15,000,000 / kg but that would produce millions of doses.
But how would you distribute that? No easy task, even with silk road connecting millions of drug sellers and users.

It depends where you live too.
For me living in Australia the most profitable thing would be to grow my own weed and sell it, but that involves quite a risk.
Importing MDMA for $20 / gram and selling it in Australia f or the average price here ($250 / gm) would be the easiest money though. But also some risk involved.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Heinemen on June 10, 2013, 12:38 pm
Well this question has too many variables to be answered properly.
You could grow opium and produce your own heroin, or grow weed, or synthesize LSD or cook meth or MDMA.
There are so many things to consider. Or would you just buy product from a supplier.

Do you work it out per gram or per hour of effort involved?

LSD crystal is something like $15,000,000 / kg but that would produce millions of doses.
But how would you distribute that? No easy task, even with silk road connecting millions of drug sellers and users.

It depends where you live too.
For me living in Australia the most profitable thing would be to grow my own weed and sell it, but that involves quite a risk.
Importing MDMA for $20 / gram and selling it in Australia f or the average price here ($250 / gm) would be the easiest money though. But also some risk involved.

Agreed, this question heavily depends on location. But for us Aussies, I see potential in MDMA and meth (and so do the other 50 Vendors that offer these products for us Aussies :p)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 12:41 pm
Lol I just saw a good way to money, Import ANY good drugs to Australia safely, after that proceed to make bank of their rediculously steep, drugs wars incuced prices lol. Hey at least the Ausies arent bullshit like the American customs lol, but thats how i like it in America ;)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 10, 2013, 12:58 pm
Lol I just saw a good way to money, Import ANY good drugs to Australia safely, after that proceed to make bank of their rediculously steep, drugs wars incuced prices lol. Hey at least the Ausies arent bullshit like the American customs lol, but thats how i like it in America ;)
You could buy a house with the profit from 2kg MDMA.
Another 3-4kg and you'd be set for a long time.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Heinemen on June 10, 2013, 01:04 pm
Dude, I bought like 10 grams of 25I-NBOMe and it was the purest fucking nbome I have ever seen, I mean pure white crystals, no tan or light brown color!? Custom synthed from china for like a couple hundred bucks, paired that with some HPBCD and laid 100 STRONG ass blotters and currently selling those for no cheaper than a hundred bucks a sheet, thats over 1000% profit in case your not too good at math, and I've kickstarted the marketing of it to where I am almost getting rid of 10 sheets every 2 to 3 weeks, bank bank bank bro! Also, Mushrooms! If you can learn to grow some mushrooms with even just an 80% success rate, which I do not think is very hard if you pay good attention to small details. You can literally grow a pound of mushrooms in like a month for literally less than 100 bucks, thats over 1000% profit too, with a little more work, but mushrooms are the bomb! I actualy just ordered some penis envy live cultures in a syringe, cant wait to get those suckers goin =) The only way you could even get close to those profit margins is synthesizing your own drugs, which most people dont do (hence why drugs are so expensive... lol) Man if I could get my hands on even just like 200 milligrams or 100 milligrams of some pure LSD crystal I would be fucking straight Wadlley Toddely! whatever the hell that means

10g on 100 blotters o.O

I hope you mean 100 sheets :P
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 01:38 pm
That is fucking nuts you can flip a kilo or two of some bomb MDMA in Australia and buy a damn house! Holy shit! Lol Is it more risky selling drugs there at all? or is it just the import problem??


Hahahaha, yes I meant 100 sheets =p Got carried away thinking about all the benjamins =p
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 10, 2013, 02:33 pm
That is fucking nuts you can flip a kilo or two of some bomb MDMA in Australia and buy a damn house! Holy shit! Lol Is it more risky selling drugs there at all? or is it just the import problem??


Hahahaha, yes I meant 100 sheets =p Got carried away thinking about all the benjamins =p
Everything is expensive in Australia - Drugs even more so. The risk of getting it here would contribute to it, but IMO it is still overpriced.
Weed is roughly $300 / ounce (not too bad really)
Pills are low quality and $20 - $30 each.
Speed is $250+ / gram
Meth is $700 / gram
Coke is $300 / gram
MDMA is $250 - $300 / gram.

That's average street prices. Depends who you know though.

Yea buying 2kg of MDMA for $40,000 from Europe and importing it and selling it in grams here would get you $500,000. So $460,000 profit which enough to buy a decent house.

Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 10:09 pm
Thats fucking crazy man, I cant wait till I have enough money to take a vacation to Australia, not to sell drugs of course lol
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 10, 2013, 10:12 pm
That is fucking nuts you can flip a kilo or two of some bomb MDMA in Australia and buy a damn house! Holy shit! Lol Is it more risky selling drugs there at all? or is it just the import problem??


Hahahaha, yes I meant 100 sheets =p Got carried away thinking about all the benjamins =p
Everything is expensive in Australia - Drugs even more so. The risk of getting it here would contribute to it, but IMO it is still overpriced.
Weed is roughly $300 / ounce (not too bad really)
Pills are low quality and $20 - $30 each.
Speed is $250+ / gram
Meth is $700 / gram
Coke is $300 / gram
MDMA is $250 - $300 / gram.

That's average street prices. Depends who you know though.

Yea buying 2kg of MDMA for $40,000 from Europe and importing it and selling it in grams here would get you $500,000. So $460,000 profit which enough to buy a decent house.

And the penalties are nothing in Australia compared to the US where people have been known to spend more than a half a century in prison for a dozen crack rocks.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: westb0xes on June 10, 2013, 10:28 pm
but I can't really fly to mexico and ask around for a cheap kilo.....

better not  ::)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 10:47 pm
Hhaha, its settled I am importing drugs to Australia and living there =D
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: PuretyAboveAll on June 10, 2013, 11:06 pm
Hmm I'm guessing cocaine. The profit margin from coca farmer to street vendorin EU is about 3000%. So if you can make something in South American for 1 USD and sell it on the streets of Europe for 3000 USD... You can never stop that market.

The vast majority of those profits goes to the traffickers though.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 10, 2013, 11:32 pm
Hmm I'm guessing cocaine. The profit margin from coca farmer to street vendorin EU is about 3000%. So if you can make something in South American for 1 USD and sell it on the streets of Europe for 3000 USD... You can never stop that market.

The vast majority of those profits goes to the traffickers though.

That is nothing compared to the price difference between an LSD manufacturer and the street price.  It would be well over 10,000% in difference.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: PuretyAboveAll on June 10, 2013, 11:38 pm
Hmm I'm guessing cocaine. The profit margin from coca farmer to street vendorin EU is about 3000%. So if you can make something in South American for 1 USD and sell it on the streets of Europe for 3000 USD... You can never stop that market.

The vast majority of those profits goes to the traffickers though.

That is nothing compared to the price difference between an LSD manufacturer and the street price.  It would be well over 10,000% in difference.

But is LSD sold in as big quantities as cocaine or marijuana? I am only asking because I have no idea. I know everything about cocaine, but next to nothing about other illegal stimulants.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Tessellated on June 10, 2013, 11:53 pm
If you mean selling on the road then LSD.  A hundred doses costs less than a penny to produce. :)

You can lay nine thousand and ninety one 110ug blotter tabs with one gram of LSD crystal.  Or you can lay a bible of 100ug hits.

Perhaps the mega-labs of the past produced the substance at such a low cost but nobody makes kilo's of LSD anymore. The costs of the smaller batches are very high and a lot of people beed to be well paid. When legal Sandoz labs could produce it fairly cheap, but the law has ruined that.

Cost of production is actually far higher than what you think when smaller amounts are being made.

LSD is profitable, but RCs would probably have better margins.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 10, 2013, 11:54 pm
Hmm I'm guessing cocaine. The profit margin from coca farmer to street vendorin EU is about 3000%. So if you can make something in South American for 1 USD and sell it on the streets of Europe for 3000 USD... You can never stop that market.

The vast majority of those profits goes to the traffickers though.

That is nothing compared to the price difference between an LSD manufacturer and the street price.  It would be well over 10,000% in difference.

But is LSD sold in as big quantities as cocaine or marijuana? I am only asking because I have no idea. I know everything about cocaine, but next to nothing about other illegal stimulants.

Yes.  The manufacturers sell it as raw crystal.  Someone else lays it and sells several bibles (10,000 hits) at a time.  The manufacturer charges like nothing so they don't get all of that profit.  Just like a coca field worker is poor and doesn't get hardly anything and a cartel doesn't get anything like 3000% profit either.  They may charge 3k per kilo when buying bulk kilos in the country of origin.  Many people make money along the way with both drugs but weight for weight, more than 100 times the amount of money is made selling LSD.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: PuretyAboveAll on June 11, 2013, 12:15 am
Hmm I'm guessing cocaine. The profit margin from coca farmer to street vendorin EU is about 3000%. So if you can make something in South American for 1 USD and sell it on the streets of Europe for 3000 USD... You can never stop that market.

The vast majority of those profits goes to the traffickers though.

Thanks for info. I'm getting smarter every day in here :)

I'm guessing LSD is your "poison" then? Or drug of choice, if you will.


That is nothing compared to the price difference between an LSD manufacturer and the street price.  It would be well over 10,000% in difference.

But is LSD sold in as big quantities as cocaine or marijuana? I am only asking because I have no idea. I know everything about cocaine, but next to nothing about other illegal stimulants.

Yes.  The manufacturers sell it as raw crystal.  Someone else lays it and sells several bibles (10,000 hits) at a time.  The manufacturer charges like nothing so they don't get all of that profit.  Just like a coca field worker is poor and doesn't get hardly anything and a cartel doesn't get anything like 3000% profit either.  They may charge 3k per kilo when buying bulk kilos in the country of origin.  Many people make money along the way with both drugs but weight for weight, more than 100 times the amount of money is made selling LSD.

I'm guessing your drug of choice is LSD?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Tessellated on June 11, 2013, 12:18 am
On the contrary most manufacturers do not like to give up crystals, nor do they sell it cheap. Not when people are jumping to get it.

They will have someone who sells books of paper for them. They get way more when it is on paper and they can make sure the quality is maintained.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 12:19 am
If you mean selling on the road then LSD.  A hundred doses costs less than a penny to produce. :)

You can lay nine thousand and ninety one 110ug blotter tabs with one gram of LSD crystal.  Or you can lay a bible of 100ug hits.

Perhaps the mega-labs of the past produced the substance at such a low cost but nobody makes kilo's of LSD anymore. The costs of the smaller batches are very high and a lot of people beed to be well paid. When legal Sandoz labs could produce it fairly cheap, but the law has ruined that.

Cost of production is actually far higher than what you think when smaller amounts are being made.

LSD is profitable, but RCs would probably have better margins.

So you believe that the people producing the LSD that you and JoR sell are producing it in expensive mini batches and aren't making much money? :o
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: oldtoby on June 11, 2013, 12:20 am
Well, if practicality is out the window then my suggestion is moon rocks. From the actual moon. They're just lying around! Sell them to museums and science labs for a mint.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Tessellated on June 11, 2013, 12:28 am
So you believe that the people producing the LSD that you and JoR sell are producing it in expensive mini batches and aren't making much money? :o

Of course they are making money. A mini-batch could be 12-20 grams, ie 120,000-400,000 100ug hits. The lab would sell 12 grams one at a time to dealers and get $240,000-$360,000.

But this is a year's harvest of rye and you have had to pay your farmer, bribe your solvent suppliers and all of that after investing in about $90,000 worth of equipment.

Like all markets competition leads to each party taking a reasonable amount of the profit. Like all black market the law keeps the larger players at bay. Some sort of huge breaking bad style mega-lab could make a huge fortune, it has happened in the past but these guys are busted.

Right now it is a cottage industry.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 12:30 am
On the contrary most manufacturers do not like to give up crystals, nor do they sell it cheap. Not when people are jumping to get it.

They will have someone who sells books of paper for them. They get way more when it is on paper and they can make sure the quality is maintained.

Manufacturers are actually selling it on paper now?!  Oh how times have changed.  The old manufacturers from the northern California area always sold it was crystal and other people laid it.  Expensive LSD from the manufacturer...  Wtf is the world coming to? :(
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 12:32 am
Very interesting Tessellated.  I enjoyed the information.  Times sure have changed.  I guess Leonard Pickard was the last of the mega producers from what you're saying?  He was a kilogram player...
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Tessellated on June 11, 2013, 01:41 am
Very interesting Tessellated.  I enjoyed the information.  Times sure have changed.  I guess Leonard Pickard was the last of the mega producers from what you're saying?  He was a kilogram player...

If anyone else has set up a Pickard scale lab then they have not yet flooded the market. It sure would be nice to get $5000 grams again.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 11, 2013, 05:13 am
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 11, 2013, 05:51 am
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Wowwwww... We all start from the bottom rung of the ladder. You need to make your first step before you reach the top. Don't scramble to the top or you will fall.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 11, 2013, 06:01 am
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Wowwwww... We all start from the bottom rung of the ladder. You need to make your first step before you reach the top. Don't scramble to the top or you will fall.



It's advice like that, that keeps me from robbing banks. Thanks Dingo
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 06:05 am
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Wowwwww... We all start from the bottom rung of the ladder. You need to make your first step before you reach the top. Don't scramble to the top or you will fall.



It's advice like that, that keeps me from robbing banks. Thanks Dingo

I know a group of people that robbed banks and big drug dealers many years ago and never got caught.  They dressed up as DEA.  I know someone else that robbed a bank when he got out of prison and he didn't get caught.  He's back in prison for decades now.

You usually don't get much in a bank robbery.  Average is less than $2,000.  You often get away with it though....
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 11, 2013, 06:21 am
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Wowwwww... We all start from the bottom rung of the ladder. You need to make your first step before you reach the top. Don't scramble to the top or you will fall.



It's advice like that, that keeps me from robbing banks. Thanks Dingo

I know a group of people that robbed banks and big drug dealers many years ago and never got caught.  They dressed up as DEA.  I know someone else that robbed a bank when he got out of prison and he didn't get caught.  He's back in prison for decades now.

You usually don't get much in a bank robbery.  Average is less than $2,000.  You often get away with it though....

True but $2000 will get me my kilo of m1.Then maybe I can afford to pay rent and eat sometimes!
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Xanthis on June 11, 2013, 06:37 am
Quote from: Dingo Ate My Drugs
Would you just buy product from a supplier?

No, the original post specified you're your own supplier.

Quote from: Dingo Ate My Drugs
Do you work it out per gram or per hour of effort involved?

Time's relative. Gram's more concrete.

Current (rough) tally of proposed (and supported) substances:

Cocaine: IIIII III
MDMA: IIIII II
LSD: IIII
Marijuana: IIII
Heroin: III
Meth: III
25I-NBOMe: II
M1: II

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Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: fuckingACE on June 11, 2013, 07:14 am
Do you mean specifically for a vendor or universally?
If specifically then anything a vendor produces or steals themselves, examples most opium vendors make almost 99% profit per gram sold as the only cost in acquiring is petrol money, some razor blades and a yoghurt pot. The risk and time though is on par with heroin or cocaine production. . If globally then probably crystal meth as the production cost is lower than most other drugs in the same 100$ up price range for pure.
ACE
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 11, 2013, 12:05 pm
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Wowwwww... We all start from the bottom rung of the ladder. You need to make your first step before you reach the top. Don't scramble to the top or you will fall.



It's advice like that, that keeps me from robbing banks. Thanks Dingo

I know a group of people that robbed banks and big drug dealers many years ago and never got caught.  They dressed up as DEA.  I know someone else that robbed a bank when he got out of prison and he didn't get caught.  He's back in prison for decades now.

You usually don't get much in a bank robbery.  Average is less than $2,000.  You often get away with it though....
It's still a high risk. I'd rather use my brain and pull off a scam and make 10X more without a chance of being caught.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 07:24 pm
Jesus Christ could somebody just give me 5 grand or some shit? Apparently that's chump change to you fuckin drug lords so help a playa out! It's taken 2 months for me to save $600 you greedy bastards, let me shine!

Rant Over.
Wowwwww... We all start from the bottom rung of the ladder. You need to make your first step before you reach the top. Don't scramble to the top or you will fall.



It's advice like that, that keeps me from robbing banks. Thanks Dingo

I know a group of people that robbed banks and big drug dealers many years ago and never got caught.  They dressed up as DEA.  I know someone else that robbed a bank when he got out of prison and he didn't get caught.  He's back in prison for decades now.

You usually don't get much in a bank robbery.  Average is less than $2,000.  You often get away with it though....
It's still a high risk. I'd rather use my brain and pull off a scam and make 10X more without a chance of being caught.

High penalty with low reward.  Not high risk though.  I forget the figures the feds gave but it was between 30% and 60% get away with it.  You keep repeating it and you get caught.  Some black kids with dreads robbed over 200 banks in Florida in the same area before getting caught.  They caught because they got snitched on.  The funny part is, in the complex they lived in, everyone saw them with AR15s, pistols and other assault rifles all the time but no one ever wanted to call the police. lol ;D
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 07:28 pm
A little more detail about my last post.  The whole bank robbing spree happened when they decided to steal a detectives cruiser while he was in the store.  They got a shotgun, pistol and AR15 from the vehicle.  They used that AR15 in every one of the 200 and some bank robberies.  The cops knew that it was the stolen AR15 being used in the bank robberies and boy were they pissed.  They couldn't even catch the guys.  Just sitting around all butthurt with their thumbs in their asses.  Humorous to say the least ;D
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: kmfkewm on June 11, 2013, 10:48 pm
Ketamine can be extremely profitable and it also has the lowest risk. Any amount of ketamine cannot get you more than 10 years in prison. People importing kilos from India pay like $8-$12 a gram, I am not sure what it sells for here but I have seen it go for anywhere between $20 and $100 a gram, depending on the area. Best case scenario you make $92,000 for every kilo you sell, worst case scenario you make $8,000. I think average price for end users is somewhere around $50 a gram, so most people probably make about $40,000 for each kilo they sell. Not that bad for risking only 10 years in prison, especially since dogs cannot smell it. The demand is also very large and people go through it fast.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 10:50 pm
Ketamine can be extremely profitable and it also has the lowest risk. Any amount of ketamine cannot get you more than 10 years in prison. People importing kilos from India pay like $8-$12 a gram, I am not sure what it sells for here but I have seen it go for anywhere between $20 and $100 a gram, depending on the area. Best case scenario you make $92,000 for every kilo you sell, worst case scenario you make $8,000. I think average price for end users is somewhere around $50 a gram, so most people probably make about $40,000 for each kilo they sell. Not that bad for risking only 10 years in prison, especially since dogs cannot smell it. The demand is also very large and people go through it fast.

It's schedule 1 in Canada.  Worse than many other drugs and can get you more than 10 years.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: kmfkewm on June 11, 2013, 10:55 pm
I know somebody who made a total killing on pressing counterfeit xanax tabs. $5 a gram for pure powder means $5 per 500 2mg bars , sell the bars for $2 a pop. That is a pretty steep price markup, a bit over half a cent to make a tab (taking binder into account) and $2 to sell a tab = 400X markup.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: kmfkewm on June 11, 2013, 10:56 pm
Ketamine can be extremely profitable and it also has the lowest risk. Any amount of ketamine cannot get you more than 10 years in prison. People importing kilos from India pay like $8-$12 a gram, I am not sure what it sells for here but I have seen it go for anywhere between $20 and $100 a gram, depending on the area. Best case scenario you make $92,000 for every kilo you sell, worst case scenario you make $8,000. I think average price for end users is somewhere around $50 a gram, so most people probably make about $40,000 for each kilo they sell. Not that bad for risking only 10 years in prison, especially since dogs cannot smell it. The demand is also very large and people go through it fast.

It's schedule 1 in Canada.  Worse than many other drugs and can get you more than 10 years.

I went off the DEA schedule chart. I'm sure in Singapore you can be executed for having it lol.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 11, 2013, 10:58 pm
I know somebody who made a total killing on pressing counterfeit xanax tabs. $5 a gram for pure powder means $5 per 500 2mg bars , sell the bars for $2 a pop. That is a pretty steep price markup, a bit over half a cent to make a tab (taking binder into account) and $2 to sell a tab = 400X markup.

Definitely, and it's less than 2k for a kilogram of alprazolam the last time I saw a pharmaceutical compounding lab selling them.  $2 a bar in bulk is unreasonably insane though.  $600 to $800 for 1,000 legit 2mg xanax bars is standard price (not on SR) which I think you already know.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: touchthesky on June 12, 2013, 02:09 am
I wonder if you can succesfully sell M1 in Aus for half the price of MDMA e.g. $150per gram.

I'd be buying kilos, flipping ounces and making mad money
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: speedygonzales23 on June 12, 2013, 02:53 am
If LSD were easy to synthesize, the Pickard bust wouldn't have had such a dramatic effect on supply.

I'd like to practice alchemy, too. Plenty of lead around.

What do you think about this guide? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/876ff8030a Has good reviews and seems that sources the precursors from nature (ergot)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 12, 2013, 03:25 am
If LSD were easy to synthesize, the Pickard bust wouldn't have had such a dramatic effect on supply.

I'd like to practice alchemy, too. Plenty of lead around.

What do you think about this guide? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/876ff8030a Has good reviews and seems that sources the precursors from nature (ergot)

LOLLLLLLLL  He was proved to be a scammer.  He even offered vendors $5,000 for Motek's address because Motek proved him to be a scammer.  You need some serious chemistry knowledge and connections for things like ergot to synthesize LSD.  It is the hardest drug that  know of to synthesize.  You need to take some serious chemistry classes.  It isn't something you could ever learn by reading.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jdank on June 12, 2013, 04:13 am
If you consider pussy a substance, quite possibly the most profitable.
If you don't have a pussy to sell, gather some risque or desperate ladies and sell them to bachelor parties etc. You do have to be on your game with a room full of wasted dudes and dirty hos but once you get a hang of it, you get paid to party!  8)

Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: sharonneedles on June 12, 2013, 09:37 am


Import coca leaveas. Extract cocaine. It's possible

I don't know of anyone selling coca leaves, but I would buy them.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 12, 2013, 09:40 am

Come one, let's be real here.

Import coca leaveas. Extract cocaine. It's possible

Lol what?  It takes over two thousand pounds of coca leaves to make a kilogram of cocaine.  It's a felony to import coca leaves.  This is being real?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 12, 2013, 09:41 am
Another one might be crack, but I've never really understood the economics of crack or how it's any more profitable than cocaine.

Crack is worth more than cocaine because people buy smaller amounts for a higher amount of money.  It's more pure than cocaine you will get too espicially if it's that yellow straight drop that's hard as a rock and not whipped and stretched out on the bottom with extra soda and things like washing powder or baby formula added.  People will buy 0.1g of crack for $20 and always come back to buy more.  Hella more profitable than cocaine.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: sharonneedles on June 12, 2013, 09:44 am

Come one, let's be real here.

Import coca leaveas. Extract cocaine. It's possible

Lol what?  It takes over two thousand pounds of coca leaves to make a kilogram of cocaine.  It's a felony to import coca leaves.  This is being real?

I'd give it a go for personal experiment or make some vin Mariani ;)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: speedygonzales23 on June 12, 2013, 12:08 pm
If LSD were easy to synthesize, the Pickard bust wouldn't have had such a dramatic effect on supply.

I'd like to practice alchemy, too. Plenty of lead around.

What do you think about this guide? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/876ff8030a Has good reviews and seems that sources the precursors from nature (ergot)

LOLLLLLLLL  He was proved to be a scammer.  He even offered vendors $5,000 for Motek's address because Motek proved him to be a scammer.  You need some serious chemistry knowledge and connections for things like ergot to synthesize LSD.  It is the hardest drug that  know of to synthesize.  You need to take some serious chemistry classes.  It isn't something you could ever learn by reading.

Then... Why isn't his account closed? Shouldn't SR admin close scam seller accounts?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Steelo on June 12, 2013, 03:22 pm
I would kill to have the chance to smuggle cocaine... So much money Involved, but I can't really fly to mexico and ask around for a cheap kilo.....
LOL, so true
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Steelo on June 12, 2013, 03:24 pm
"I have been to a few South American countries and the price there was maybe 10-15,000 UK pounds for a kilo."
Do you have connections there or is this a pretty standard price for anyone who can find the supplier?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Xanthis on June 12, 2013, 05:06 pm
Crack is worth more than cocaine because people buy smaller amounts for a higher amount of money.  It's more pure than cocaine you will get too espicially if it's that yellow straight drop that's hard as a rock and not whipped and stretched out on the bottom with extra soda and things like washing powder or baby formula added.  People will buy 0.1g of crack for $20 and always come back to buy more.  Hella more profitable than cocaine.

Any resources you could help provide in regards to its production?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 12, 2013, 08:40 pm
Crack is worth more than cocaine because people buy smaller amounts for a higher amount of money.  It's more pure than cocaine you will get too espicially if it's that yellow straight drop that's hard as a rock and not whipped and stretched out on the bottom with extra soda and things like washing powder or baby formula added.  People will buy 0.1g of crack for $20 and always come back to buy more.  Hella more profitable than cocaine.

Any resources you could help provide in regards to its production?

It's not hard.  Make some friends with someone in the projects and you'll learn quick.  You'll make better shit with ammonia.  Some real straight drop.  Don't overdo it on the baking soda if you use soda.  You heat the cocaine in water in a pyrex beaker in a pot of boiling water.  Let it melt into an oil.  Start adding baking soda.  You can add about 25% the weight that you have of cocaine.  It's a lot easier to cut cookies than a funky chunk so keep going over it with a fork, don't let there be bubbles, start whippin it around and keep stretching it out.  It will be on the bottom of the beaker.  When you're done, put that shit in the freezer on a flat service.  Pull it out and dump it o a coffee filter.  If the cookie is uneven because you put it on an uneven surface then melt it down and do it again.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Xanthis on June 13, 2013, 05:52 pm
Any resources you could help provide in regards to its production?
It's not hard.  Make some friends with someone projects and you'll learn quick.  You'll make better shit with ammonia.  Some real straight drop.  Don't overdo it on the baking soda if you use soda.  You heat the cocaine in water in a pyrex beaker in a pot of boiling water.  Let it melt into an oil.  Start adding baking soda.  You can add about 25% the weight that you have of cocaine.  It's a lot easier to cut cookies than a funky chunk so keep going over it with a fork, don't let there be bubbles, start whippin it around and keep stretching it out.  It will be on the bottom of the beaker.  When you're done, put that shit in the freezer on a flat service.  Pull it out and dump it o a coffee filter.  If the cookie is uneven because you put it on an uneven surface then melt it down and do it again.

Sorry, I meant cocaine in general, not crack specifically.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: MrAnonymous on June 14, 2013, 10:15 am
Whatever you can sell the most of really - whatever the people in your area like to use.




A cocaine dealer over here in the UK, will mainly sell at the weekends - now lets say he sells an ounce every week in one gram deals... He will probably pay 800 pound if it's decent cocaine and let's say he isn't scummy and doesn't cut it.

And sells it for 50 pound per g (average street price in the UK) he's just made 1400 pound, a profit of 600 pound.

Now let's say the same guy sells weed at 10 pound per g - in my experience weed sells everyday. Almost all of my customers bought from me everyday.

So he can easily clear an ounce of weed a day.. Which is 280 pound, and depending on the quantity he buys (lets say he buys seven - one to sell a day), he will get an ounce for roughly 120.

280 x 7 = 1960 - What he earnt

120 x 7 = 840 - What he paid for the weed

Meaning (profit = 1120)


Which shows weed would make him more money on a week by week basis. AND there isn't as harsh a penalty if caught. People just always assume there is more money to be made with the 'harder' drugs.


Ultimately it boils down to who you know, and what drugs they like to use and how frequently they will use the said drug.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 15, 2013, 06:07 am
I like Mr.Anonymous' answer go with that shit man, do your research, find out whats best for you, do some work son! Work makes money, questions just make answers, not money =p I guess they can help you make money sometimes... But sometimes I really feel like your either born a money maker or your not. Sometimes it just seems like the older I get, the more fucking random ass dolla billz I end up with from not trying much harder than years ago. Lol Just create a positive successful energy around yourself, and positivity and successfulness will atract.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: aussiepp on June 15, 2013, 09:23 am
Australia has a very insane turnover. Everything is so expensive here and cheap overseas so most drugs are highly profitable if you do it right.
Meth/MDMA/Ketamine/Amphetamines/Coke seem to be the most profitable here.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 15, 2013, 05:59 pm
hey Aussiepp, I was wondering, Is it any more sketchy to sell drugs in Australia as opposed to the USA? Like what do you think about Law Enforcement as related to drugs in Australia? Is it just the importing thats the hard part? And then once you get it in the country easy as anywhere else?
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: aussiepp on June 16, 2013, 02:23 am
hey Aussiepp, I was wondering, Is it any more sketchy to sell drugs in Australia as opposed to the USA? Like what do you think about Law Enforcement as related to drugs in Australia? Is it just the importing thats the hard part? And then once you get it in the country easy as anywhere else?

Australia has the advantage over America because the jail time for drug offenses here are much lower than in the USA. LE are a lot less strict here, especially when dealing with amounts that are considered personal supply. For example, 'Cannabis cautions' are frequently given out rather than prosecution.
Importing is definitely the hard part. We have one of the 'best' Customs in the world, with much higher seizure rates than the large majority of countries.
Hope that makes sense, I'm tired as hell.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 16, 2013, 03:21 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

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Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 16, 2013, 04:30 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9082d94132
What the fuck
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: imghost9 on June 16, 2013, 04:33 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9082d94132
What the fuck

My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Heinemen on June 16, 2013, 04:38 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9082d94132
What the fuck

My thoughts exactly

What next, placenta for sale? -_-
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: GaryBusey on June 16, 2013, 04:43 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9082d94132
What the fuck

My thoughts exactly

Dude... I was seriously considering buying one of his car safes, but I cannot do so at this point due to the sheer amount of "why" going through my brain.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 16, 2013, 04:51 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9082d94132
What the fuck

My thoughts exactly

Dude... I was seriously considering buying one of his car safes, but I cannot do so at this point due to the sheer amount of "why" going through my brain.

They're cheaper on clearnet and you can pick from multiple sizes. 8)
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: aussiepp on June 16, 2013, 06:22 am
This Is hands down the most profitable substance In the world....

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9082d94132
What the fuck

I'm going to open a vendor account... "PlacentaPlace".... I can see it now...

My thoughts exactly

What next, placenta for sale? -_-
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: bluegreen23 on June 16, 2013, 02:52 pm
That is fucking nuts you can flip a kilo or two of some bomb MDMA in Australia and buy a damn house! Holy shit! Lol Is it more risky selling drugs there at all? or is it just the import problem??


Hahahaha, yes I meant 100 sheets =p Got carried away thinking about all the benjamins =p
Everything is expensive in Australia - Drugs even more so. The risk of getting it here would contribute to it, but IMO it is still overpriced.
Weed is roughly $300 / ounce (not too bad really)
Pills are low quality and $20 - $30 each.
Speed is $250+ / gram
Meth is $700 / gram
Coke is $300 / gram
MDMA is $250 - $300 / gram.

That's average street prices. Depends who you know though.

Yea buying 2kg of MDMA for $40,000 from Europe and importing it and selling it in grams here would get you $500,000. So $460,000 profit which enough to buy a decent house.

this price list just made you one of my heroes.
Title: Re: Most Profitable Substance?
Post by: Beachyshapes on June 18, 2013, 10:57 am
Buying O/S then offloading in Aus most definitely has a good turn around. Lets just say I were to get an Oz of crystal off a well known O/S vender for say....under $3000. Selling in points and the occasional gram here and there I can make $25,000+ quite easily, it is quite the opportunity that fellow citizens whom aren't following road will never be able to dream of unless they have some pretty important contacts. IRL offers of $10,000 an Oz is the best I've stumbled upon.