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Title: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 18, 2012, 03:42 pm
I am Canadian and got my First love letter from Customs....


It has 4.06 grams of suposive Hash was found......


What do you do with this??? Should I contact them and ask WTF? why am I getting hash sent in the mail? or just ignore it???
it came registered mail so my wife signed for it.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: surl4r0ut3 on August 18, 2012, 04:56 pm
I think I would call them and ask WTF...
Please keep us informed, interesting situation.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: dkmonk on August 18, 2012, 05:07 pm
Even a better idea is to contact them and tell them that what in fact they thought was hash was actually Afghan heroin.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 18, 2012, 05:54 pm
I should show you guys the letter.... It's a Notice of Seizure, It took 4 months to get here... I think it was the third order I ever made....


and it's ALL in french....... But I live in an English speaking province....
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: wizdom on August 18, 2012, 06:11 pm
Even a better idea is to contact them and tell them that what in fact they thought was hash was actually Afghan heroin.

LOL mutherfucking LOL!
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: indoorfarmer on August 18, 2012, 09:22 pm
No one seems too concerned that this guy got a letter from CUSTOMS....HASH....signature from the WIFE....I would not be contacting them I'd be contacting a lawyer...but that's just me
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 18, 2012, 09:46 pm
I was more curious if anyone has ever received a letter before.


I am not worried about getting arrested over this, contacting a lawyer would be admitting guilt.My wife signed for the letter from customs...

All in french (yes i can read french) says that 4.06 grams of possible hachish was seized, This item is illegal for import.


That's all it says.. dated 4 months ago.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: username100 on August 18, 2012, 09:51 pm
contacting a lawyer would be admitting guilt.

I don't think it works like that.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: BanWork on August 18, 2012, 10:17 pm
Ignore and don't ship anything else to that address and you should be fine.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 18, 2012, 10:21 pm
Sorry, seems like a waste of time, Just like starting this thread.... I am pretty sure if anything get's seized they have to notify you... If they wanted to bust me they would have attempted delivery of the hash and busted me after signing for it, not just stopping it from entering the country...

I am sorry but this place seems like a bunch of stupid kids.


if I got caught with 4 grams of hash on my person... I would be charged with Possession under 30 grams and get nothing but a small fine and 90% of the time with a minor possession charge if you can prove your a functioning member of society, you'll get a suspended sentence and end up without a criminal record.... most judges don't give a shit about small amounts of marijuana products....

" I never had any hash products sent to my house, I only order computer parts and sometimes porn"
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 18, 2012, 10:22 pm
Ignore and don't ship anything else to that address and you should be fine.

I own a couple properties, I used to use one of them.. Now i use friends houses that don;t use drugs....


Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: supersecretsquirrel on August 18, 2012, 10:32 pm
I should show you guys the letter....

Please do.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: rise_against on August 18, 2012, 10:34 pm
canadian customs is very tight.  they must personally go thru every piece of mail.   i feel sorry for our neighbors up north.  buying from within your border is the best option to avoid seizure.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 18, 2012, 10:48 pm
I will make a blanked out copy for privacy.. but it is in french..


I HAVE never lost an order before..... this was the first one I lost....
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: rise_against on August 19, 2012, 12:35 am
I will make a blanked out copy for privacy.. but it is in french..


I HAVE never lost an order before..... this was the first one I lost....

out of how many?
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 19, 2012, 01:07 am
33.....oh and tony got me for a few g's of mdma.... but 100% of my coins are mined.... :)


I am going to ask to have this thread deleted.


Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: HardHustle on August 19, 2012, 01:17 am
4 grams of anything (besides LSD) is fuckin peanuts. You're not a wanted criminal. Just forget about it.

You may not wanna order to that address again tho you may be put on some sort of list because of this.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 19, 2012, 01:21 am
4 grams of anything (besides LSD) is fuckin peanuts. You're not a wanted criminal. Just forget about it.

You may not wanna order to that address again tho you may be put on some sort of list because of this.


Thanks for your input... I will never use that same address again....
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: indoorfarmer on August 19, 2012, 01:06 pm
Yea 4 gs of hash isn't shit I know, hell its my medicine in my fine state, but were not talking about getting pulled over and searched. Cmon u guys know mail is more seriouse than that. Andjust because ur not arrested doesnt mean shit. I was raided many years back and the bastards took all my plants destroyed equipment etc, I was not arrested that day nor any other day in the near future. It was 6 months later when they slapped cuffs on me...and seeking legal advice when u recieve a letter saying u broke the law is not only NOT in any way guilty but also what any sane smart person would do...if this was true anyone who contacted a lawyer is somehow guilty of their alleged crime? Listen the most important thing is if they ever come knocking u keep your mouth shut as not to incriminate yourself....u can only give them one story, don't make it the wrong one  ! Again this os just me but I would be nervous
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: raelag on August 19, 2012, 01:16 pm
Sorry, I have no time read whole thread, but few points from law school courses:

If you are taking WTH position, be sure that home address can be searched and nothing found. If something found (bond, syringe, some stuff) - it is good base to incriminate.

Second - go and make criminal report about someone mailing you forbidden substances without your consent. Vendors, specially in other country are bulletproof to this bureaucratic measure. Otherwise judge might not be convinced (if customs criminal department decides to give case to prosecutor).

I don't really know, how this works in Canada, but my 1. and 2. should be universal in any juridically sane country.


Local attorney might be excellent idea. But always carefully consider words. No "I ordered, but please - don't tell", yes "I am really have no clue, but afraid to go to ja-a-ail, snif-snif"

Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 19, 2012, 02:01 pm
^   ^   ^  ^  NO, no, and no..... You know about Canadian law right? The way I had it explained to me last night was that... Unless I signed for and accepted this package and had it in my possession, there is nothing they can do..... I can have 1000 pounds of Hash stopped at the border but unless I accept the delivery their SOL for charging me for it. 


I might call and say WTF,,,, that I would never have such a thing sent in the mail.... Period end of story.

I never keep anything in my house...... around 8-10 years ago I got ratted out for growing pot plants... (well the rat said I had a farm 200+ plants and a few pounds) Well... I had 6 plants and about 2 grams of pot...... they took my plants and my 2 grams and charged me with possession under 30 grams for the pot... and ended doing 10 hours community service.. for my 6 DWC plants that would have yielded me nearly a pound a piece.....

I am not retarded.... my reasoning behind this thread is that some VENDORS SUCK...... their stealth is garbage.... Probably wrote "Contains Hash" on the damn package...

Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: raelag on August 19, 2012, 03:19 pm
Aye, sorry.. As I said, I didn't thorougly red whole thread.

Actually I have no slightest idea about Canadian system. Was considering worst scenario, some european countries are strict.

About vendors sucking - yep.

Uneducated is even better word.

Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on August 19, 2012, 03:24 pm
No problem man,,,, Just frustrates me a bit.... No vacuum sealing on it I bet and the vendor just doesn't give a shit....
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: wizdom on August 20, 2012, 08:59 am
^   ^   ^  ^  NO, no, and no..... I am not retarded....VENDORS SUCK...... their stealth is garbage.... Probably wrote "Contains Hash" on the damn package...


LOL + 2
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: kmfkewm on August 20, 2012, 09:17 am
generally people advise that you ignore love letters and stop getting packages to the same drop , if they were going to press charges chances are slim they would send a love letter. Usually love letters essentially say they are not going to press charges but to knock your shit off because it is illegal, did yours read something like that?
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: paddymiller on August 20, 2012, 09:53 am
If it was a serious issue a CD would have happened.

Just abandon that address and use a new one.

It would be flagged now in the CA customs system I believe.

Doesn't matter if it's 1 gram or 1 pound.. you are attempting to import an illegal substance into your country.. remember that. It's not like importing lollipops.



Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: cindelle on August 20, 2012, 10:29 pm
heres my experience that does include some canadian law. i made a purchase some time ago from a canadian vendor. i live in the states. i had 3 or 4 successful orders from this vendor, all for the same products, which was for some good smoke. my last order took many weeks to arrive, which was very unusual. after about almost 2 months i received a love letter BOTH from canadian and us customes stating that a package to my address was seized. the us letter gave me a phone number to call if i wanted to go to US customs to "claim it," (NEVER DO DUH!) and the canadian letter just said that it was seized for possible illegal activity or something.  i ignored the letter and stopped using my address. nothing further happened and its been some time now.

another experience a friend of mine had came from another site using a vendor who must have been watched. he ordered some smoke (1oz) and after many weeks the order showed up with very little product in it. it also had been opened and wasnt vac sealed. when he contacted the vendor who he had used successfully before, he ensured him that he sent the correct weight. a short time later he was raided.

if you receive a love letter, i would not respond to it. if you wish to reach out for legal council, then feel free. LE will do what they want when they want to do it. and although they're patient, they also have a lot of fish to fry.  DC (discontinue) using that address. If this is the first and only order seized, IMO you dont have a lot to worry about, however theres always a chance. sure, the letter did what it intended to do. to let you know that they know, to get you scared and to stop it.

in the states there are many LL's received. many many of them are never pursued. pursuing it means LE has  A LOT of work to do to build a case against you. again, anythings possible, but for the quantity you mentioned, it would probably not be worth their efforts to try and figure out where it was purchased, who sent it, who ordered it, etc etc. all for a small amount of hash. its possible, but not likely. 

and yes, there are some really retarded vendors who use the most ridiculous shipping methods. and they can really screw you!
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: TurpenT on August 20, 2012, 10:53 pm
interesting. yea 4 g's of hash isn't worth their time or money imo.

I am curious though. Did you continue to receive packages in the 4 months after the original package was seized?
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: nice1 on August 20, 2012, 11:03 pm
Just say nothing unless you want more hassle
just leave it and carry on

maybe change mailing addy if worried too
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: dontbeadick on August 22, 2012, 06:44 pm
canadian customs is very tight.  they must personally go thru every piece of mail.   i feel sorry for our neighbors up north.  buying from within your border is the best option to avoid seizure.

Can any other Canadians confirm this? I have heard this to be generally true, but not heard it repeated often enough (or I'm just reading all the wrong threads and forums)

I am interested in making mid-scale (probably considered "large" by legal definition) purchases from Canada to US and this was a concern in the back of my mind. Just how tight is letter mail versus package mail (again, Canada to US); rather, where can I read more information on this topic?
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: indoorfarmer on August 23, 2012, 09:04 am
If youre orderinh from Canada to the us you'd be dealing with us customs I believe Canada wpuldnt even fuck with it ... I believe
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: StonerReakingHavoc on August 23, 2012, 01:17 pm
I don't think the Canadian government gives a fuck about 4g of hash.
Even if they do at least you will not be considered guilty of supporting terrorism by your federal government because you do drugs, unlike the criminal government in the country below you.
So yeah look at the good side of it.
Be safe man, peace.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: BigScrote on August 23, 2012, 04:54 pm
canadian customs is very tight.  they must personally go thru every piece of mail.   i feel sorry for our neighbors up north.  buying from within your border is the best option to avoid seizure.

Can any other Canadians confirm this? I have heard this to be generally true, but not heard it repeated often enough (or I'm just reading all the wrong threads and forums)

I am interested in making mid-scale (probably considered "large" by legal definition) purchases from Canada to US and this was a concern in the back of my mind. Just how tight is letter mail versus package mail (again, Canada to US); rather, where can I read more information on this topic?

I've ordered a number of international packages to a Canadian address, and every one has been delivered successfully. They were all mostly small packages (a quarter of bud or so); that probably makes a difference.

I've read that Canadian customs is very strict, but in many experience it's been great. I can tell you that driving over the border - the Canadian Customs officers don't give a fuck. At all. So I'd think it would be the same for shipping.

I've never ordered from the US to Canada, but I know some of the top weed vendors on here are Canadian and ship to the States.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: ProudCannabian on August 23, 2012, 09:28 pm
canadian customs is very tight.  they must personally go thru every piece of mail.   i feel sorry for our neighbors up north.  buying from within your border is the best option to avoid seizure.

I've been in this game over a year.  I have never lost a package.
I've waited an awful long time for orders, and just had one show up this week, after like two months of waiting (dmitrispice).

I'd say that's a pretty good track record, and Canadian customs isn't as hard as you think.  Some of these packages were pretty crazy too.  No details as to amounts, frequency or contents.
In fact, this is the first time I've ever even heard of anyone getting a Canadian love letter.

On the one hand, it's only hash, but on the other, we have a major dick of a Prime Minister trying to increase jailtime for petty shit like this.  Tell your wife not to sign for anything you folks aren't expecting to require signing for.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Sc0t1and_Y4rdi3 on August 23, 2012, 11:44 pm
I am Canadian and got my First love letter from Customs....


It has 4.06 grams of suposive Hash was found......


What do you do with this??? Should I contact them and ask WTF? why am I getting hash sent in the mail? or just ignore it???
it came registered mail so my wife signed for it.

wow your wife is pretty dumb
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: mito on August 24, 2012, 12:21 pm
What city is this my little one?
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 24, 2012, 05:10 pm
I can tell you that driving over the border - the Canadian Customs officers don't give a fuck. At all.



haha, don't count on that, mon ostie  ;)   I've been stopped at the border and searched on a few occasions driving into canada.  once they even brought out dogs to sniff around the car.  fortunately i was clean so i just watched in amusement as they spent 3 hours trying to bust me for anything.  i kept thinking that smuggling drugs into canada would be like smuggling guns into the usa....why would anyone do that?

anyway, i'm just trying to say that the canadian welcome wagon isn't as friendly as you'd like to think.


regarding OP...i'd get a new mailbox somewhere and toss the love letter in the trash.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: BigScrote on August 25, 2012, 02:27 am
I can tell you that driving over the border - the Canadian Customs officers don't give a fuck. At all.

i kept thinking that smuggling drugs into canada would be like smuggling guns into the usa....why would anyone do that?

anyway, i'm just trying to say that the canadian welcome wagon isn't as friendly as you'd like to think.

LOL +1 - awesome.

I dunno. I've never had an issue. There's a scene in Highway 61 where Jello Biafra plays a US Border guard that pretty much sums up my feelings on crossing the border into the US. Funny shit.

Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Andrewbud420 on September 16, 2012, 04:58 pm
Hey guys..

Been a while since I posted in my thread here...

To answer some questions I did continue to receive out of country orders at this address. I stopped once I received the letter. I now have a couple new addresses I use.

Thanks for the reply guys.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: springseed23 on September 16, 2012, 11:54 pm
Even a better idea is to contact them and tell them that what in fact they thought was hash was actually Afghan heroin.

I just logged in---just so I can give this guy a 1+------------------------fucking funny!!!!!!!!!!!

DONT DO SHIT.  If you got a letter, consider yourself lucky, and change a mailing addy.  Simple.  Customs seize shit all the time.  LE----likes the cost/bust ratio--------your 4grams of hash could not even pay for the hourly wage of sending someone to your house!!!!

If you got like 400grams, and a love letter-----then I would freak out because they would watch you.  4grams, fuck, I would order from the same source with out worry!!  That is just me though---------I aint going to jail you are:}
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: mito on September 20, 2012, 11:29 am
Hey guys..

Been a while since I posted in my thread here...

To answer some questions I did continue to receive out of country orders at this address. I stopped once I received the letter. I now have a couple new addresses I use.

Thanks for the reply guys.

So how many orders from out of the country you got after receiving the love letter?
Were they from the same country/continent?

Thnks for letting us know.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: springseed23 on September 21, 2012, 12:45 pm
I can tell you that driving over the border - the Canadian Customs officers don't give a fuck. At all.



haha, don't count on that, mon ostie  ;)   I've been stopped at the border and searched on a few occasions driving into canada.  once they even brought out dogs to sniff around the car.  fortunately i was clean so i just watched in amusement as they spent 3 hours trying to bust me for anything.  i kept thinking that smuggling drugs into canada would be like smuggling guns into the usa....why would anyone do that?

anyway, i'm just trying to say that the canadian welcome wagon isn't as friendly as you'd like to think.


regarding OP...i'd get a new mailbox somewhere and toss the love letter in the trash.

I have been searched both going in and going out of Candada----but at the time I looked like a crack haired hippy from hell, so can not blame them. 
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: midnightcreeper on September 23, 2012, 01:58 am
"Domestic Only", there for a reason. There are some fine Canadian vendors here with top notch quality product. Bypass customs snoops and buy local! Win-Win.
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
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Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: BigScrote on September 23, 2012, 02:14 pm
I can tell you that driving over the border - the Canadian Customs officers don't give a fuck. At all.



haha, don't count on that, mon ostie  ;)   I've been stopped at the border and searched on a few occasions driving into canada.  once they even brought out dogs to sniff around the car.  fortunately i was clean so i just watched in amusement as they spent 3 hours trying to bust me for anything.  i kept thinking that smuggling drugs into canada would be like smuggling guns into the usa....why would anyone do that?

anyway, i'm just trying to say that the canadian welcome wagon isn't as friendly as you'd like to think.


regarding OP...i'd get a new mailbox somewhere and toss the love letter in the trash.

I have been searched both going in and going out of Candada----but at the time I looked like a crack haired hippy from hell, so can not blame them.

I usually try to make myself look at disarming as possible when driving over to the States. Recently I've found that pulling a little booger halfway down my nose, seemingly oblivious to it, really works. The custom guy get distracted and thinks "Surely if this guy is so oblivious to the booger hanging out of his nose, he can't possibly be up to any shenanigans".
Title: Re: Received my very first LOVE letter from Customs
Post by: Thedonkilluminati on September 23, 2012, 03:36 pm
I have read around about love letter and most of people have just ignored it and there has been no problems for them.
Since they said "Its illegal to import hash" and nothing important so just ignore the shit and you will fine  :D