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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: GuybrushThreepwood on December 31, 2012, 05:13 am

Title: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: GuybrushThreepwood on December 31, 2012, 05:13 am
Sent packages to several people this last month but the recipients claim to have not received their product.

Terrible shame if they have as I would hate to lose a solid customer base, but I can not afford to Escrow their money anymore to lose %50 of my shipped orders, that I then have to refund or replace out of my own pocket making the exercise pointless.



Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Printro on December 31, 2012, 05:25 am
 :(

Aussie customs are no more "awesome" than usual - I think it's just this time of year. Today is a national day off for Australia Post employees only, so deliveries wont be happening again until Wed 3rd.

I have been seeing that a lot of countries are experiencing delays - I hope that is the cause.

I get tired of hearing the Australia Customs is super difficult to penetrate line, it's no more difficult/ same procedures/ same equipment as most custom boarder security systems.



Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Christy Nugs on December 31, 2012, 07:04 am
JWM doesn't know.

What JWM does know is they will be having a quiet NY's this year since JWM helped out friends with their MDMA after placing four different orders to four different addresses that never arrived after 1 month.

Leaving JWM with nothing more than 25i, some great weed, a bunch of opiates and DMT.

None of which JWM feels up to consuming in the presence of strangers.

At least JWM will be able to smoke DMT and spend NY's with Terence McKenna's self transforming machine elves instead...

:( moop

is there a yet unperceived reason for u speaking in the third person?
who fucking does that?
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Wadozo on December 31, 2012, 07:18 am
JWM doesn't know.

What JWM does know is they will be having a quiet NY's this year since JWM helped out friends with their MDMA after placing four different orders to four different addresses that never arrived after 1 month.

Leaving JWM with nothing more than 25i, some great weed, a bunch of opiates and DMT.

None of which JWM feels up to consuming in the presence of strangers.

At least JWM will be able to smoke DMT and spend NY's with Terence McKenna's self transforming machine elves instead...

:( moop

is there a yet unperceived reason for u speaking in the third person?
who fucking does that?

Jimmy, from the Seinfeld episode where he talks about himself in the 3rd person. "Jimmy loves the Velvet Fog"  "Jimmy's pretty sweet on you" and "Jimmy's going to get you Kramer" are a few lines from the show I can remember. Does anyone else remember? It's where Kramer is mistaken as a handicapped person because he is loaded up on Novocaine after visiting the dentist and was wearing special "lift shoes" sold to him by Jimmy for Basketball.  Kramer attends a handicap dinner with the special guest is Mel Torme, AKA the Velvet Fog. :)
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: StickMeQuickly on December 31, 2012, 07:19 am
JWM doesn't know.

What JWM does know is they will be having a quiet NY's this year since JWM helped out friends with their MDMA after placing four different orders to four different addresses that never arrived after 1 month.

Leaving JWM with nothing more than 25i, some great weed, a bunch of opiates and DMT.

None of which JWM feels up to consuming in the presence of strangers.

At least JWM will be able to smoke DMT and spend NY's with Terence McKenna's self transforming machine elves instead...

:( moop

Damn. You should have got some 6-apb in while you had the chance, some people I've spoken to prefer it to MDMA. That shit's still legal in Oz right?
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Printro on December 31, 2012, 08:37 am
Although this is a really fucking annoying thread that I wish hadn't been posted, especially by a vendor who should be smarter than that.... and the dude speaking in 3rd person is obviously a dick, I wish the other posters had stuck to topic and re-affirmed

1) Aus post are not delivering until 2nd of Jan.
2) Aus customs does not have super powers
3) Aus post is SMASHED with an extra 3 million parcels this year.  documented in forums, threads and on aus local news, quick google and you got your answer
4) posting shit like this and ever other twat that did/ does, makes it easier for scam buyers and selective scam vendors.  Thanks.
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Wadozo on December 31, 2012, 09:05 am
Although this is a really fucking annoying thread that I wish hadn't been posted, especially by a vendor who should be smarter than that.... and the dude speaking in 3rd person is obviously a dick, I wish the other posters had stuck to topic and re-affirmed

1) Aus post are not delivering until 2nd of Jan.
2) Aus customs does not have super powers
3) Aus post is SMASHED with an extra 3 million parcels this year.  documented in forums, threads and on aus local news, quick google and you got your answer
4) posting shit like this and ever other twat that did/ does, makes it easier for scam buyers and selective scam vendors.  Thanks.

Fuck mate, what's with the hissy fit? Settle down and stop spitting the dummy over a thread in a forum. Yes, there was approx. 3 million extra items of mail this Christmas but you forgot to mention the extra 2000+ temporary staff employed by Aust. Post to cope with the extra demand. Customs in Aust. does not have the same procedures or equipment as other Customs Departments worldwide. Each country has it's own Customs and Border Protection Department. They in turn, employ there own rules and guidelines which vary according to a countries Laws and Regulations. Australian Customs is very thorough but no more so than some other countries such as the U.S. This info. is well known so how you think it's going to make it easier to scam /selective scam buyers doesn't make sense. Don't FE! Then you won't get scammed mate.
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Printro on December 31, 2012, 09:21 am
Although this is a really fucking annoying thread that I wish hadn't been posted, especially by a vendor who should be smarter than that.... and the dude speaking in 3rd person is obviously a dick, I wish the other posters had stuck to topic and re-affirmed

1) Aus post are not delivering until 2nd of Jan.
2) Aus customs does not have super powers
3) Aus post is SMASHED with an extra 3 million parcels this year.  documented in forums, threads and on aus local news, quick google and you got your answer
4) posting shit like this and ever other twat that did/ does, makes it easier for scam buyers and selective scam vendors.  Thanks.

Fuck mate, what's with the hissy fit? Settle down and stop spitting the dummy over a thread in a forum. Yes, there was approx. 3 million extra items of mail this Christmas but you forgot to mention the extra 2000+ temporary staff employed by Aust. Post to cope with the extra demand. Customs in Aust. does not have the same procedures or equipment as other Customs Departments worldwide. Each country has it's own Customs and Border Protection Department. They in turn, employ there own rules and guidelines which vary according to a countries Laws and Regulations. Australian Customs is very thorough but no more so than some other countries such as the U.S. This info. is well known so how you think it's going to make it easier to scam /selective scam buyers doesn't make sense. Don't FE! Then you won't get scammed mate.

Hissy fit is bc not everybody is in the same situation as you dude.  Not everybody has been on SR for as long as you/ have the same stats as you etc.  and thus getting vendors to ship o/s with n00b stats and no FE is nigh impossible and these threads don't help.  Another two new ones went up today.  Re: your advice for the other thread, I took it on board and thank'd you, however I am STILL running into o/s vendors refusing to do anything bar FE, some don't even care about stats anymore, it's country and no prior relationship with them.

As a n00b, I have done my research and most of the research came to the same fucking conclusions, keep putting up threads like this, keep seeing new scamers and more vendors insisting of FE. 
It might not effect you and your already established vendor relations so I can understand your ambivalence, pity you cant see it from honest n00bs side. 
The only point I was making calling Aus Customs 'the same' as everywhere else, is stating that its not some super power that can not be penotrated as you said, no harder than the US.  But the posts about Aus shipping is 10 times more.  It does not help.  This has been stated by many and could be seen as in "fact" damaging with some vendors pulling out of shipping to Australia or insisting on FE for Aus clients. 

Happy New Year, I hope you get everything your waiting for on the 2nd, I however, doubt I will be getting my FE'd goods. 
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Wadozo on December 31, 2012, 09:39 am
I understand where your coming from mate, I was new once myself. However, you need to drop the hostility in your posts and look at things from a different perspective. A lot of vendors will take note of posts which are from unhappy, upset buyers. What sort of drugs are you ordering from O/S vendors and how long have you been waiting for a delivery? Have you PM'd the vendor/s in question and if so, what did they say? PM me if you don't want to post here. We all had to start somewhere on here so don't think I don't know how frustrating it can be for a new buyer. However, it's not all doom and gloom out there in cyberspace. Your main problem is FE. Hopefully, if it doesn't arrive, the vendor will work with you.
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Printro on December 31, 2012, 09:51 am
Thanks W.   And I do understand now that I am coming across as hostile, and that's not my intention, having recently discovered SR and the endless beauty and potential in it, I am slightly enamored, yet annoyed that it could be killed by people not doing the research, as a n00b thats all I have been doing and I cant understand why some people give the game away by not reading the advice columns that were put there to help and protect.

Again, I apologise if I come across as hostile, 4 days of wired research and an excitable mind.. I just want others to do the right thing and aussies to be getting o/s products and prices.

I still have hope that my two FE'd products come through, vendor stats and comments were good, but if they don't I will take you up on your offer and again, thanks.
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: mdmafx on December 31, 2012, 10:42 am
This happens every year, mail slows down over the Xmas period. Usually it takes around 2 weeks its more like  a month now. Yeah Australia Post put on extra staff but the hold up is customs. Everyone orders from overseas around this time and everything has to clear customs before its released into the general mail.  Just have to read the seller forums on Ebay to see everyone shipping to Australia is experiencing delays up to a month.  If you order from overseas just pick you vendor wisely, don't go for the cheapest vendor as packaging is far more important than price.
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: modziw on December 31, 2012, 11:06 am
I preferred the Seinfeld shit.

Modzi
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: fuckingACE on December 31, 2012, 01:42 pm
Sent packages to several people this last month but the recipients claim to have not received their product.

Terrible shame if they have as I would hate to lose a solid customer base, but I can not afford to Escrow their money anymore to lose %50 of my shipped orders, that I then have to refund or replace out of my own pocket making the exercise pointless.

Out of the 9 packages sent to AUS in the last 3 weeks, none have been confiscated by customs so far.. I would treat anything without a LL from AUS as a scam if you are concerned.
Ace
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Wadozo on December 31, 2012, 02:02 pm
Sent packages to several people this last month but the recipients claim to have not received their product.

Terrible shame if they have as I would hate to lose a solid customer base, but I can not afford to Escrow their money anymore to lose %50 of my shipped orders, that I then have to refund or replace out of my own pocket making the exercise pointless.

Out of the 9 packages sent to AUS in the last 3 weeks, none have been confiscated by customs so far.. I would treat anything without a LL from AUS as a scam if you are concerned.
Ace

Ace, F.Y.I - Aussie Customs will only send out a L.L for the seizure of prescription medication. With illicit drugs, in all the mainland states, if your caught with 3g's or more, it's referred to the Australian Federal Police to thoroughly investigate. Under 3 g's is classed as a  personal amount. It depends on what a preliminary investigation by the AFP uncovers as to what the next course of action will be. What ever the case may be, Customs DO NOT send out Love Letters for illicit drugs. Tasmania is the exception to the rule in terms of quantities classified for personal use. Under 25 g's is classed as personal, yes that's 25GRAMS,  and over 25 g's is a commercial quantity. Lucky bastards!  :)
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: GuybrushThreepwood on December 31, 2012, 03:59 pm
Thank you for your contributions.

It seemed odd to me that some that were sent at the same time as others arrived and we go to extra lengths to package properly so very odd.

Since it appears that many people are in this boat it is no surprise that posts like this are being made.

As a vendor who wants to ensure their customers can get access to their wares it is difficult to evaluate when one is being scammed or there are genuine hold ups.

We want to help these unfortunate Australians have a safe and enjoyable time consuming our wares but it's difficult when you find a disproportionate amount of n00bs claiming they didn't receive their orders when regular customers have already taken possession of theirs.

If n00bs are predominantly the issue, which was what we were trying to deduce, we will ban any interaction with buyers under X amount of successful transactions.

Australia isn't much different to ship to as the United States or the UK, what makes it difficult is when you get a disproportionate amount of scammers from one location you start to wonder if they understand they will ruin it for themselves as well as their fellow citizens who are honest about their purchases and get blamed for the actions of others.

You guys who think it's acceptable to abuse the Escrow system need to remember we are here to provide a service and it doesn't just appear in your letterboxes, we work hard and pay a premium price to bring you a premium product so when you scam us we have to start thinking about quantity restrictions etc.

On a happier note, Guybrush hopes you all have an excellent year this year, the rEVOLution survives Dr Paul's departure and continues to grow, and we here at Silk Road continue to spread love and enlightenment through the use of liberating substances and the Free Market.

God Bless Silk Road and the Libertarian rEVOLution  :) ;) :D ;D 8) :-* :) ;) :D ;D 8) :-*

Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: paxous on December 31, 2012, 04:06 pm
maybe it is just a wave of bad luck.. i dont belive they got 100% of the packages from day to night
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: Wadozo on December 31, 2012, 04:34 pm
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If n00bs are predominantly the issue, which was what we were trying to deduce, we will ban any interaction with buyers under X amount of successful transactions.

I totally understand this predicament. Not all (some are really trying to do the right thing), but some newbies have the attitude of trying all they can to receive drugs without having to pay for them. It's fucked that they think that's acceptable, however, perhaps raising the number of successful transactions required to a minimum number will help weed some of them out for you, hopefully! Your right in saying that Aussie Customs is no tougher to bring through contraband in the postal system than it's counterparts, the U.S and the U.K. Abusing Escrow is just not on for both buyers and vendors. Try thinking of the other party and finalizing an order which has arrived, to make them happy. I've found if your courteous and prompt at finalizing the order, you get looked after in what you buy and receive from them. What goes around comes around and a vendor will appreciate a buyer who takes the time to promptly finalize the order once it arrives. That's what I've found here on SR anyway. Happy New Year to you all (except BiB if he is on here) and have a great 2013!
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: OzFreelancer on January 14, 2013, 10:29 am
One plausible explanation for things going missing that I haven't seen is perhaps things are going missing from people who tell all their mates they use SR.  And their mates (or people their mates have told) manage to get to the letterbox before them. :)
Title: Re: ARE AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS ALL OF A SUDDEN AWESOME?
Post by: nanpa2001 on January 14, 2013, 11:27 am
One plausible explanation for things going missing that I haven't seen is perhaps things are going missing from people who tell all their mates they use SR.  And their mates (or people their mates have told) manage to get to the letterbox before them. :)

That could definitely happen. Especially with junkies. My policy is tell no one about silk road.