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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: RP6504 on May 12, 2012, 12:28 pm
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I am new as a customer on SR but have been checking it out for awhile. I thought the concept was amazing. I mean it seemed like our way to give the middle finger to the law while we bartered the goods that we love so much. Sooo, with that said, I finally decided I was going to try and order btc yesterday. I tried the bitinstant, however none of the banks were located near me so I figured the easiest way would have been MoneyPak. I tried to message some users that offered that method to see who was on and didn't find much luck other than BTCBunny. The user was very helpful at first and responded to my messages within minutes, so I assumed the transaction would be as smooth. Well apparently I was wrong, As soon as BTCBunny got the MoneyPak code, I received one last message saying to allow 15-20 minutes for processing and then another 10 for the BTC to show in my account. It was only $125 MoneyPak and yet they decided to rip me off. I contacted support and don't know what they could even do, if they would lose the account or be out the $150 they paid for it. So I figure I would go ahead and let you guys know so you don't make the same mistake I did. I guess this just wasn't the place for me to do business. No pun to those of you real honest businessmen/women here. I am sorry that it wasn't you that I got to do business with rather than choosing the scammer. Wish you guys all the best. It was awesome to even think that it would work. <3
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Dude, don't give up on the Silk Road just because of one bad transaction. Now that you are registered on the forums you will be able to research all kinds of buyers/sellers and really reduce your chances of getting ripped off.
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Man that blows for your first tran. I have used btcpal twice for $500 and over and both times had coins with in an hour to a few. He charges 10 percent and uses actual mtgox price for the day. Keep faith in the road. Sorry you got fucked but just go with the guy Ive stated and he will hook you up.
Let us know what you decide.
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Happened to me, just like you, first transaction on the road, only it was BTC Buddy and Western Union.
Go to bitinstant.com . They are reliable and quick. And they are NOT anonymous (though they let you be)!
And once you have used Bit-Instant you can join the growing crowd of S.R. folk who are saying "Never EVER Again!" on these S.R. BTC Vendors.
I lost $250 my first transaction, but I just got my vendor upgrade paid for yesterday and almost ready to start making some cushion money from my crops. Persevere brother! Victory goes not to the strong, or the swift, but to those who do not fucking quit!!
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I REALLY appreciate all the kind words, it is awesome that the SR community (for the most part) is like a family. It is what makes me want to stay, but even if I chose to, I am not the type of person that runs into extra money too often and that was my one chance (hence why I only had $125 MoneyPak lol) So I don't know I am going to be okay to risk that again in the future. I hope something clicks in my head or changes my mind and makes me stay. <3 you all either way, you have been awesome since I came here. Even you BTCBunny, hope you needed it more than I did.
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BitInstant will let you do very small amounts (like $20 at a time). So you can "turf" your bits in.. bit by bit.
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I REALLY appreciate all the kind words, it is awesome that the SR community (for the most part) is like a family. It is what makes me want to stay, but even if I chose to, I am not the type of person that runs into extra money too often and that was my one chance (hence why I only had $125 MoneyPak lol) So I don't know I am going to be okay to risk that again in the future. I hope something clicks in my head or changes my mind and makes me stay. <3 you all either way, you have been awesome since I came here. Even you BTCBunny, hope you needed it more than I did.
Man, that sucks. Give me an address and I'll donate some money to you. Don't just give up.
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lots of btc scam lately, i got got by vadu yday
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Funny thing is, I was just looking at BTC Bunny to get Cash. This potentialy saved me some grief. So, once again, give me an address to donate to. ;)
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Bummer for a first transaction! Unfortunately the Moneypak to BTC conversion seems to be the easiest way to purchase bitcoins on here, and also the most dangerous. BTCpal and BTC Buddy have treated me right, and i'm sure hundreds of others would vouch for them too. Just be sure to do your research before you purchase in the future.
I, too, got ripped off on my second purchase...a MoneyPak to BTC vendor took me for $160 about a year ago.
BUT FOR GODS SAKES MAN, GIVE THAT GUY YOUR ADDRESS SO HE CAN GIVE YOU SOME BTC, LOL. Hats off to you sir, for picking up a newbie with a donation 8)
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13kFE77mofwv8Lxoso2TrvNiyHTwnUJvJ9 Thanks man, that is really awesome of you. You really don't have to but the address is there. I will try out those other methods you guys listed in the future. Thank you for your help everybody. <3
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I hope it helps. :)
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lots of btc scam lately, i got got by vadu yday
If you meant to type 'Vado', then yes I did on Tuesday as well.
I'm definitely looking at registering to do direct trades/deposits from my own accounts to avoid all the problems associated, and the fees involved.
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Happened to me, just like you, first transaction on the road, only it was BTC Buddy and Western Union.
Go to bitinstant.com . They are reliable and quick. And they are NOT anonymous (though they let you be)!
And once you have used Bit-Instant you can join the growing crowd of S.R. folk who are saying "Never EVER Again!" on these S.R. BTC Vendors.
I lost $250 my first transaction, but I just got my vendor upgrade paid for yesterday and almost ready to start making some cushion money from my crops. Persevere brother! Victory goes not to the strong, or the swift, but to those who do not fucking quit!!
How/what do you use to fund Bitinstant? I'd like to remain anonymous, but then I looked at Dwolla it asks "for your real name as it appears on you driver's license'?
Thoughts/tips/suggestion for being ANON?
Thx!
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Bummer for a first transaction! Unfortunately the Moneypak to BTC conversion seems to be the easiest way to purchase bitcoins on here, and also the most dangerous. BTCpal and BTC Buddy have treated me right, and i'm sure hundreds of others would vouch for them too. Just be sure to do your research before you purchase in the future.
I, too, got ripped off on my second purchase...a MoneyPak to BTC vendor took me for $160 about a year ago.
BUT FOR GODS SAKES MAN, GIVE THAT GUY YOUR ADDRESS SO HE CAN GIVE YOU SOME BTC, LOL. Hats off to you sir, for picking up a newbie with a donation 8)
I have had severeal transactions with BTC Buddy with great success. I tried BTC King, but unfortunately there were no banks in my area that were in his group to receive payment.
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Thanks ManaFromHeaven, that was a really nice thing to do. If there is ever anything I can do for you feel free to message me. <3
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I am horrible with technology. i joined 9 months ago, and have spent over 6,000. i dont understand how to do it any other way than MP--- to bitcoin. luckily i have been fortunate enough to not get ripped off. i have used many of these vendors and the one that sticks out most to me is Rapidexchange. his listings arent up very often but he is a great dude with a competitive price. i have taken multiple 1000 plus Money packs to him and i have never waited more than 30 minutes for the coins to be in my account. now thats service. if someone could explain in depth to me how i could use a site like bit instant i would be very grateful. and remember to explain it in language that someone that sucks with computers could explain.
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I just wanted to fill everybody in on an update. A couple hours ago BTCBunny said they would send me my Bitcoins and not even 10 minutes ago sent me a message saying I sent them a MP code with no money on it. Problem was the MP was cashed 20 minutes after I ordered yesterday and BTCBunny was the only one that had the number. Be careful guys, as said, don't fall into the same trap that I did.
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Sucks to hear this happened to you, i used Sugar mama my first time and it went smooth took almost 2 days but she said it'l be that long... try report the issue to a sr Admin...
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Funny thing is, I was just looking at BTC Bunny to get Cash. This potentialy saved me some grief. So, once again, give me an address to donate to. ;)
+1 Over a decade ago when I use to go on tour we said (family kids) and it meant something then, it seems now that mentality had disappeared. I will kick down $10 bucks to your account as well. Thanks for the idea Mana.
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13kFE77mofwv8Lxoso2TrvNiyHTwnUJvJ9 Thanks man, that is really awesome of you. You really don't have to but the address is there. I will try out those other methods you guys listed in the future. Thank you for your help everybody. <3
I tried to send two btc to that address and it says user does not exist? If that damn rabbit doesn't refund you send me a message with your name and Ill kick ya down.
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13kFE77mofwv8Lxoso2TrvNiyHTwnUJvJ9 Thanks man, that is really awesome of you. You really don't have to but the address is there. I will try out those other methods you guys listed in the future. Thank you for your help everybody. <3
I tried to send two btc to that address and it says user does not exist? If that damn rabbit doesn't refund you send me a message with your name and Ill kick ya down.
Hey Dip, thats cool man. I think you may be entering that in the "Send bitcoins to another Silk Road member:" you need to withdraw them to that address.
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He got me too. Luckily I only did a small amount because he wasn't established, and I am holding out a small hope that he will come through. Thought maybe I was helping a new btc seller establish a rep, that's the last time I deal with someone new without escrow. What he didn't know is I had ten times my test run amount just sitting on my desk, that would have hurt. I hate that it happened to you on your first transaction, it happened to me the first time I bought something. It sucks but I think about how people who do things that dirty will always be scraping by never having the pride of being trusted and it makes me feel a little better, just a little. Use the forums to check people out and you should be fine, a lesson I am learning myself.
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I just got screwed out of $500 by those crooks. They cashed my card and then cancelled the order. This is fucked up...
I have been on the site for a month and have spent over 3 grand and this is the first ripoff. I am fucking sick to my stomach at this person and they should be taken off the site for good!!!!!
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I got screwed out of a $100MP. Now "SeeRicky" thinks I scammed him even though I told that BTCBunny fuck to cancel my order so I placed one with Ricky. Of course Ricky couldn't cash it so now he is branding me a scammer. Please someone help me make this right. I already messaged him explaining the deal and I hope it works out. I will buy from Ricky as soon as the MP possibly gives me my refund on the 14th.
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I am horrible with technology. i joined 9 months ago, and have spent over 6,000. i dont understand how to do it any other way than MP--- to bitcoin. luckily i have been fortunate enough to not get ripped off. i have used many of these vendors and the one that sticks out most to me is Rapidexchange. his listings arent up very often but he is a great dude with a competitive price. i have taken multiple 1000 plus Money packs to him and i have never waited more than 30 minutes for the coins to be in my account. now thats service. if someone could explain in depth to me how i could use a site like bit instant i would be very grateful. and remember to explain it in language that someone that sucks with computers could explain.
getbitcoin.com is the most "newbie"friendly site to use to get bit coin. If they don't have a bank in your area then you can send a money order but that takes a week or 2 depending where your at. Their office is in California and I don't know if they got an office abroad.
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Hey everyone... Anytime you get a Bitcoin scam please report it. I was recently scammed for about $260. I've now established further criteria when selecting a bitcoin vendor. The account must be 6 months old, minimum, have a 99-100% feedback rating, and clear of any persistent negative feedback in these forums. Even so, it's still a risk.
Please report the scam so that others don't get taken advantage. I know how to temporarily delist an ad but only SR can permanently ban someone. This is $260 I didn't spend on vendors and of which Silkroad didn't get a commission of.
Maybe SR should also do some sort of Moneypak escrow of this sort:
#1. The vendor must have enough bitcoins to cover every order it offers and are frozen from being used for any other purpose. The exchange rate must be published into the escrow system.
#2. In case of several disputes, since the bitcoins were already frozen, they could be distributed to those who placed the orders. Total discretion about the outcome has to be given to SR.
Or perhaps, there should be an insurance system in place. If we knew the specifics on how many people are scammed here, a premium could be developed. This might create moral hazard though.
The thing is, as a result of these cams, SR loses out, the buyer loses out, the vendors who would have received those bitcoins lose out. Only the scammers win, but not really because karma hits hard with vengeance. They have to watch their backs all the time, these guys probably suck at money management and will waste it away quickly, and they probably have a weak social support system since they probably suck as people in real life.
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It would be nice if there were some way to have btc held in some form of escrow; I'd suggested a few months ago that we find a way to have some third party do this, but no one has found a way.
Another problem we have, is that sometimes people are so mad at some particular vendor they have had problems with, that they apparently sign up with more than one useraccount, in order to try to give more weight to their allegations. It has the unfortunate side effect of making us less confident in new members until they've shown posts in other areas, over time. Or when we see too many new accounts talking bad about a vendor.
Me and many people on here, who've been around for some time, have had excellent transactions with btc buddy. But I won't sign up with extra accounts just to talk good about him, and I would hope no would would sign up with new accouts to do the opposite.
But anyone can go bad, there's no doubt abouit that, and hopefully this will resolve eventually.
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It's really cool that some of you will donate for the cause of somebody getting ripped off. much love
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It's really cool that some of you will donate for the cause of somebody getting ripped off. much love
thanks
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I don't know if there is anything similar in the US (or where ever you're located) but here in aus, there's a website you can go to where you submit how many dollars you want in bitcoins, then they give you a reference number, you go to a bank and anonymously put the money in their account along with the reference number, then BAM bitcoins in your wallet within a few hours. Pretty reasonable rate too.
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I don't know if there is anything similar in the US (or where ever you're located) but here in aus, there's a website you can go to where you submit how many dollars you want in bitcoins, then they give you a reference number, you go to a bank and anonymously put the money in their account along with the reference number, then BAM bitcoins in your wallet within a few hours. Pretty reasonable rate too.
We've had a couple like that here, too. Before getbitcoin.com there was one, but they went under...very quick and honest...you just deposit with their number, and we'd take a picture of it, and send the that...and I've done it just by depositing with getbitcoin in their account that way...and, a couple days ago, I did it very similar to that with btcKing.
I don't guess any way is totally foolproof. Worst experience I had with btc was with TradeHill when there were going under. It took over a week, and bitinstant wasn't answering email, neither was TradeHill...I finally opened an accnt with OKPay just to get my cash out...we really don't have any protection, it seems, no matter who we use...it just *feels* safer with an outside vendor, but I've learned to trust several vendors on here.
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I called greenDot and they are going to investigate. By Tuesday I should have a refund since im in the EC and it was deposited into an AccountNow card in WC. I am very angry about this. I will have change my buyer account because now SeeRicky thinks I "scammed" him because this dumb Bunny didn't cancel my order but withdrew my MP.
Message sent to BTCBunny tonight:
I cannot wait until I find out to which AccountNow prepaid card you send my MP to. Because then I'll get your address real quick. And a flight to the West Coast is dirt cheap. And when I get to your place. It won't be so quick. I'll make sure me and my partner bring you to the depths of death but resuscitate you. I hope to your God you're a woman, because the amount of times your ass is going to raped its gonna a bloodbath (not by me, but a gang of people. Repeatedly). I served in Egyptian special forces. Torture is my strong point. I cannot wait to see how long my "humane" waterboarding will last. You'll come up for a air like a little cunt. I pray you're a woman. I really do. Because otherwise I will cut your dick off nice and slow and then fill it with stuffers, and then jam into your SHORT INTESTINES. I'll let you know Tuesday when to expect my crew. My favorite lil' Bunny. Some people deserve to die fast, one quick bullet. YOU on the otherhand will not die until every person you ripped off gets their money back x2. So have fun enjoying what little of your life you can cocksucker. My face will be the last you see.
So if I do get my investigation and refund successfully, everyone who got ripped off please let me know and I will make sure you get double your money back. I don't care if I get kicked off. I haven't made a purchase on this buyer account and frankly I'll just make a new one since mine is tarnished because SeeRicky thinks I ripped him off because of this bitch. If it doesn't work, I have methods of finding people that most people don't. So I will still get everyone their money doubled. I am DEAD serious in this regard.
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It's really cool that some of you will donate for the cause of somebody getting ripped off. much love
No, just trying to keep a fair discussion going. That's what there forums are for. When somebody has legitimate complaint, and it hasn't been resolved, it's good that it's brought out here. But I think you would agree, that those of us who've been treated fairly, should also voice our experience.
Usually a scammer just goes for the jugular, gets lots of people in one big swoop. I've been here thru two btc big ripoffs, several months ago, tho I didn't loose any money fortunately, because I was just using TradeHill. But since I do use 'inhouse' vendors, and have been treated well, as obviously others have, this seems perhaps more like some kind of terrible mishap, rather than an intended scam.
I'm definitely not wanting to take away from the hardship people go thru when they loose btc, and think the other person stole them. I'm *glad* this is brought out...but again, in this case there seem to be two views. And we don't want to be making threats and such: it doesn't accomplish anything other than to get everybody all excited...
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They won't be scamming anyone else. I got them suspended!!
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They won't be scamming anyone else. I got them suspended!!
Good for taking action, that's what often we neglect, which is simply to report them, and *also* have a thread on it...and my apologies to anybody I confused earlier, as I was thinking of another vendor, btc Buddy, who has always done me right...my mistake :-[
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However many BTC that asshole had in his acct shouldve been redistributed amongst the ppl he scammed!
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Looks like he just scammed me
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How is it that this scammer was able to keep his account open after scamming rp6504 to scam at least 3+ more people?
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Add me to the list. Lost $500.00 on the 13th and had my order canceled. I think I'm going to puke. I'm done with SR.
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I did a transaction for $500, worked fine, upped it to $1000, got scammed.
Release early at your own peril.
Still stings tho.