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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: thecrackhead on November 16, 2012, 06:29 pm

Title: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: thecrackhead on November 16, 2012, 06:29 pm
Hello guys,
I'm just wondering if in the long run being a heroin addict is worth...I've done my research and it seems that in 90% of the cases people are getting weaker and weaker, day by day. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I am not new to drugs. however I've never been addicted to a substance and I did quite a few of them, also for long periods. (cocaine, mephedrone, lsd, nbome, weed, 2c-b, special k, meth, ampethamine, shrooms mdma xtc etc). I'm the kind of "test your drugs on me" guy. I managed to stay away from H so far but I am sure that H has its beauty just like any other drug.


There is this thought that keeps bothering me and keeps pushing me to order some H...

I'm a bit confused
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: THUMBSuP. on November 16, 2012, 06:57 pm
Hello guys,
I'm just wondering if in the long run being a heroin addict is worth...I've done my research and it seems that in 90% of the cases people are getting weaker and weaker, day by day. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I am not new to drugs. however I've never been addicted to a substance and I did quite a few of them, also for long periods. (cocaine, mephedrone, lsd, nbome, weed, 2c-b, special k, meth, ampethamine, shrooms mdma xtc etc). I'm the kind of "test your drugs on me" guy. I managed to stay away from H so far but I am sure that H has its beauty just like any other drug.


There is this thought that keeps bothering me and keeps pushing me to order some H...

I'm a bit confused

if you want some that bad i would go ahead and order some.
make sure you get domestic though.. if you're in the US of A. international is creeeeeeepy.
whatever you do.. don't iV it.. or you'll be fucked. i tried tar.. just not my cup of tea...
THEN.. i got some #3 it was cool.. THEN i got some #4 and man.. shit was so dope.
about to hit some now, lolol. just make sure your head is where it needs to be or you can and WILL get addicted to this shit.
good luck and be safe and smart.. and best of all... moderate. :)


/thumbs
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: TreeSpirit on November 16, 2012, 08:37 pm
This is an excellent thread on here 'If you are thinking of trying heroin.... ': http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23080.0

Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: unkn0wn_ on November 17, 2012, 01:39 am
I've never done Heroin but I was on morphine for an extended period of time in the hospital and it was wonderful. I still find myself thinking about how enjoyable it was even though it was 2yrs ago. I imagine heroin is the same.

But I doubt your real question was whether opium is enjoyable. It's whether long-term addiction is worth it? Eh that's a tough question.

You probably already know this so like the person above said... don't inject and try to moderate. Don't let it interfere with other peoples lives. Use good judgement. Etc, etc.

Also, read this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Permanent-Midnight-Memoir-Jerry-Stahl/dp/0976082209/

It's about a guy who managed a functional heroin addiction while being a writer in hollywood. It's brilliant.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: inthedaytimewitha on November 17, 2012, 01:55 am
Dude, please don't even try the shit.  NO IT'S NOT WORTH IT!  Take it from someone who has been strung on and off for 10+ years.  It's no fun being a junky.  It's a full time job.

Some awesome highs but trust me some of the lowest lows you could even imagine go along with it 

Anybody that recommend that you try the shit ought to be fuckin shamed of themselves and has not been at it long enough to tell you the raw truth of what being a DOPE FIEND is. 

You guys kill me, trying dope simply because it is available for sale on a web site.  KEEP AT IT,  and you will experience the MISERY that comes along with it.

You've been warned.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: RadioDog on November 17, 2012, 04:03 am
Dude, please don't even try the shit.  NO IT'S NOT WORTH IT!  Take it from someone who has been strung on and off for 10+ years.  It's no fun being a junky.  It's a full time job.

Some awesome highs but trust me some of the lowest lows you could even imagine go along with it 

Anybody that recommend that you try the shit ought to be fuckin shamed of themselves and has not been at it long enough to tell you the raw truth of what being a DOPE FIEND is. 

You guys kill me, trying dope simply because it is available for sale on a web site.  KEEP AT IT,  and you will experience the MISERY that comes along with it.

You've been warned.

This is EXACTLY right. I can't imagine trying to keep a habit up where it was only available on the internet. Fuck that.

@thecrackhead - Don't do it man. What good can come of it? You'll either A) hate it or B) love it to death (literally)

I love H and I hate that I do.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: TK1991 on November 17, 2012, 06:56 am
If you don't inject it what do you do? Smoke it, snort it? Totally in the dark about this just curious like a cat
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: Lawnmower on November 17, 2012, 03:48 pm
No3 is freebase for smoking/snorting. No4 is a salt and for snorting or IV only.

I've tried heroin 4-5 times - bought a quarter gram from SR just to see what the deal is. It was nice, but nothing like the euphoria I had heard of. It was relaxing and extremely comforting.

In my experience true addiction comes much later with opiates than with stimulants. Stimulants have the immediate "need mooooore" cravings whereas I never found myself craving heroin. It didn't give me what I want from a drug - soaring euphoria like with meth.

Anyway, my point is that addiction to the stuff isn't definite. It depends a lot on you as a person and what you are looking for in a drug. But if you have issues and are looking for a way to escape, heroin is possibly the most powerful "escape drug". In this case it's hard to imagine a scenario where the user doesn't become addicted.

Trying the drug was worth it, just as an experience. Won't try it again though. Look at your reasons for wanting to try it before making a purchase.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: mnak on November 17, 2012, 04:46 pm
I'm just wondering if in the long run being a heroin addict is worth..
No.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: Theaides on November 17, 2012, 09:21 pm
If you're intentionally looking to be an addict, no, don't try it.

If you're just looking to experience it to say you've tried it, then go for it.  Ordering from SR puts up more boundaries when it comes to addiction matters, because of all the extra steps involved in acquiring drugs here.  Since I found SR I never thought I'd try a lot of things out there, but here I am trying them all.  I was quite surprised to see I was overly worried about much of nothing.

The worst thing I've tried to date is coke, snorted...I've never fiended for ANYTHING in my life that hard, and eventually I just decided I can't control the cravings, so hey:  no more buying coke!  Problem solved.

I'm going to do the same thing with H here, get a small (very small, trust me, you don't want large quantities of anything addictive even being in the same house as you) order and go for it.  If that supply is gone in a week, or too soon for your comfort zone, just don't buy more.  You can cut off highly addictive drugs before they get a hold on you, and just DONT buy more.  It's that simple.  Cherish your fun experiences while they're fun, once they start becoming a drag on your soul, you're starting to get too deep, but not deep enough you can't pull out of it before you fall.  But most importantly if you can look back on an experience as positive overall, then it's worth it. 

A friend of mine tried heroin for a couple months and then quit right out, but they also didn't abuse it enough that it gave them anything more than a mild withdrawal period, which was enough for them to end contact with the substance.  Same friend is basically saying the same thing I'm echoing to you:  "Try everything you can while you're alive, skydive, climb mountains, try every drug under the sun, just don't become a slave to anyone or anything."

Good luck.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: thecrackhead on November 17, 2012, 10:17 pm
Thank you for your positive&informative answers I've decided to give #3 a go. I will order small just for the effects. I'm not planning to go for IV as it will probably ruin what I stand for.

Once again thank you and I appreciate.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: TreeSpirit on November 17, 2012, 11:28 pm
I hope you set a limit on further ordering and keep yourself to your own limit.
Be safe and well!
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: Edawg420 on November 18, 2012, 05:33 am
So i had a guy i knew IRL who could pick up stamp bags.  I never wanted to try heroin but one night he couldn't get any blow, which was the plan for the night, so i decided to give some of his H a try.... I'm not gonna lie, the feeling was awesome, snorted a .2 thinking it was like coke even after he warned me not to... lets just say i dry heaved for about 15 min... almost fell down cuz i could barely stand... finally sat down and struggled to stay awake just to enjoy the overwhelming feeling...  i finally gave in and went to sleep only to wake the next day feeling like a million bucks...

I stayed away from the shit for about 2+ years.  At which point i found a new guy... at first i just wanted to do it once again but i found myself picking up every weekend... before i knew it i was about to throw down on a jab...I never felt any withdraws at this point because i would only do it on the weekends, but I definitely wasn't gonna stop picking up any time soon.... it just so happened that that weekend when my guy was picking up the jab he got busted and went to jail...

In reflection to that i saw that i had not just done it 1x again, but instead started a weekly habit of getting that feeling... i thank fate for everything that happened, obviously i wasn't happy my guy got locked up, but i just think of what path i would have gone down if i kept picking up each week, if i got that jab and blew through 12 bags in the night ? who knows... but i will say this, i still search the heroin listings on SR every once in a while... just contemplating my next rush...
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: THUMBSuP. on November 18, 2012, 06:42 am
just don't go "crazy" on it and any and all drugs can be used safely and with proper moderation.




/thumbs
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: blowdrobro on November 18, 2012, 08:04 am
just don't go "crazy" on it and any and all drugs can be used safely and with proper moderation.




/thumbs

I agree, but I think that it's key to remember that moderation is especially true in the case of heroin. Personally I wouldn't pick up more the a few doses and leave it alone after.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: THUMBSuP. on November 20, 2012, 10:36 am
just don't go "crazy" on it and any and all drugs can be used safely and with proper moderation.




/thumbs

I agree, but I think that it's key to remember that moderation is especially true in the case of heroin. Personally I wouldn't pick up more the a few doses and leave it alone after.

ditto!


/thumbs
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: NobodysMan on November 20, 2012, 09:51 pm
Well i would say don't do it, because it will haunt you the rest of your life. (that's my experience)
But i can see that your most likely to try it anyways, so please be careful !!

Best luck to you :)
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: TreeSpirit on November 21, 2012, 11:50 am
Will you keep us posted, crackhead? It would be nice to hear how it goes for you.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: thecrackhead on November 21, 2012, 01:06 pm
yes, I will in fact I just placed the order...
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on November 21, 2012, 05:22 pm
its totally not worth it.  as a matter of fact, its a shit deal.


don't do it man
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: wrappit on November 21, 2012, 06:40 pm
Personally not worth trying at all as the bads by far outweigh the good. IV'ing for the 'rush' everyone talks about which imo is a bit extreme for first time and all other methods are great but no rush, just nods. One guy described it perfectly on his first time on a thread by Rauol Duke recently I think. Was something like 'why would anyone wanna take a drug that makes you itch, sweat and not be able to piss (not exact words but close enough)'. Quite funny as when beginning, that's exactly what happened to me. It's a really weird thing as first time snorting for example, I liked it but not LOVED it...just became curious to keep trying more (was in a source country) and then one day was real sick when didn't take. It's a slow and very painful spiral...Withdrawal sucks soooooooooo bad!!

However, you've bought it now (could always flush it lol) so use safely. As always the mantra ' can always take more, but never less' applies big time to strong opiates! If bought no 4 and incredibly pure with no tolerance at all - seriously a match head sized bump will do just fine. Very easy to go too far or OD if take a big sized line with no tolerance for example. I personally woulda tried oxy or something first as guaranteed purity and with oxy, small bumps lift you very nicely, with bigger bumps for great nod (unless u have experience with other opiates). Smoking brown first time will most likely make you puke your guts out but can be a good thing as puts some peeps off. All depends on addictive character or not. Either way, be safe and enjoy your experience!! it can be amazing + shit, mostly both at the same time  ;D
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: wolverine434 on November 21, 2012, 07:42 pm
I've been tempted to try H for a long while, but honestly my opiate tolerance is low enough that a 5mg percocet can get me feeling damn good after a week or two of being off opiates. So I think H would be a little strong for me.

I've also heard the rush isn't that great if you don';t IV it... I personally would never IV anything... i don't like needles. And the best rush i've ever had was from XTC and real good coke... so i'm happy with that kinda rush rather than IV'g some H.

Good luck to you, be careful, and make sure to start off real slow!
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: fat people like sauce and on November 28, 2012, 03:06 am
had my first hit of morphine in the 6th grade, first hit of dilaudid in the 9th, first hydro scrip in 10th, and its been downhill from there. i wish i could go back to a time before i was strung out on heroin..... but then i'd only go back just so i could do it all over again and again for eternity.

thats what the shit feels like when you're really hooked, like some sort of deep well that you can't get out of -- and if for some reason you get close to the top and see the light you just fuckin jump right  back down because the water is nice and warm and sit there forever.

or like shittin the bed and sitting in it cuz it feels nice -- ridiculous if you ask an addict or anybody else.

it ain't like a cup of coffee
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: robust on November 28, 2012, 03:15 am
I had some dilaudin and took a class on the best way to take it

I learned that injecting it works best, the professor told me that one
So I goes to the store and get a needle, bring it home all ready to jam that sucker right up into my arm
only thing is,I gots the wrong size needle, its a big fat horse needle, no way ima stick that sucka in my arm

so I went back and asked the professor now what, he says
Break the needle off the syringe, powder up the pill put it in the there and jam that sucker right up yo ass

so thats what I did

next time ima get heroin and a smaller needle
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: grdr on November 28, 2012, 10:00 am
Thank you for your positive&informative answers I've decided to give #3 a go. I will order small just for the effects. I'm not planning to go for IV as it will probably ruin what I stand for.

Once again thank you and I appreciate.

i would suggest you order no 4 heroin for snorting oor iv ( if you're into needles) or black tar instead of no 3 h. black tar is not exactly heroin but it is more euphoric i think. or maybe try to buy opium first to smoke.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: TerrorByte on November 29, 2012, 01:07 am
i would suggest you order no 4 heroin for snorting oor iv ( if you're into needles) or black tar instead of no 3 h.

Definitely get #4 especially is you're going to snort or shoot.

Quote
black tar is not exactly heroin but it is more euphoric i think. or maybe try to buy opium first to smoke.

BTH contains heroin, but what makes it what it is, is that it is slightly less refined, the incomplete acetylation of the morphine resulting in higher quanties of 6-MAM, 6-monoacetylmorphine.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: blueberry34 on November 29, 2012, 05:19 am
It's not worth it to be addicted to ANYTHING, imo at least. ESPECIALLY HEROIN.

 I have personally seen it ruin lives. Turn good people to scum. I have had people I once called friends rob me because of this drug. IT IS NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. Opiates in general are just bad. I'd be lying if I said I haven't fucked with a LOT of opiates (pretty much everything except H) and I'll tell you from experience, it is NOT WORTH IT.

Just my 2 cents, but it is your life, do with it what you want.

Be safe.

bb
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: blowdrobro on November 29, 2012, 06:01 am
its totally not worth it.  as a matter of fact, its a shit deal.


don't do it man
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: noobgasm on November 29, 2012, 06:09 am
imho

The high: Great nothing like it (except other opiates but this is one of the best). If picked up only once in a great while (1 month min., screw that 4 days to a week shit): it makes for a great experience. Good for pain. Good for a relaxing weekend. Relatively small detection time in urine.

The low: Hard to use just once. Tolerance builds fast. Addiction is a life destroyer. OD is a problem. Expensive.

Just my 2 bits.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: tea_drinker on November 29, 2012, 10:14 am
It just makes it really easy to fuck up your life. It always starts out fine, the honeymoon period on H gives everyone the impression they can handle it.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: mnak on November 29, 2012, 04:12 pm
It's not worth it to be addicted to ANYTHING, imo at least. ESPECIALLY HEROIN.

 I have personally seen it ruin lives. Turn good people to scum. I have had people I once called friends rob me because of this drug. IT IS NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. Opiates in general are just bad. I'd be lying if I said I haven't fucked with a LOT of opiates (pretty much everything except H) and I'll tell you from experience, it is NOT WORTH IT.

Just my 2 cents, but it is your life, do with it what you want.

Be safe.

bb
Yep.

Lots of guys thought they could handle heroin and then ended up doing gay4pay for their habit.  It isn't just immense mental addiction, it is physical addiction as well.

There are so many fun drugs out there that are say safer.

Stressful day at work?  Take some ketamine and let your conscience leave your physical body and float around for a while.

Want to feel empathy instead of hate?  MDMA may help.

Want to appreciate the beauty of the world?  LSD might do the trick.

Need some euphoria so that you can have a good time with others?  limetless's mephedrone is very popular.

Have a night with some club whores?  They can sniff out cocaine better than a drug dog.

fuck me now I'm getting myself all excited.
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: Purple_Hue000 on November 29, 2012, 07:04 pm
Hello guys,
I'm just wondering if in the long run being a heroin addict is worth...I've done my research and it seems that in 90% of the cases people are getting weaker and weaker, day by day. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I am not new to drugs. however I've never been addicted to a substance and I did quite a few of them, also for long periods. (cocaine, mephedrone, lsd, nbome, weed, 2c-b, special k, meth, ampethamine, shrooms mdma xtc etc). I'm the kind of "test your drugs on me" guy. I managed to stay away from H so far but I am sure that H has its beauty just like any other drug.


There is this thought that keeps bothering me and keeps pushing me to order some H...

I'm a bit confused


Let me put it this way to you dude, Does being a "Junkie" sound "worth it" to you?
Naw, fuck that shit. lol
Title: Re: Is it really worth? (Heroin)
Post by: blacksunshine on November 29, 2012, 07:12 pm
opiates eventually win.  They are the greatest, most horrible, wonderful, painful, blissful, destructive things god gave us.  I noticed in your list of things you have tried, I did not see pain meds?  Try some loratab, try some oxy, heroin is usually last stop on that train not the first.  Its not a glamorous drug, the opiates always become a necessity.  Just to be what I was before I started I have to have X amount daily.  Its a personal choice, but by default I should tell you no don't do it.