Silk Road forums
Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: ozzybattla on May 31, 2012, 03:17 pm
-
Opening a new thread to not clog up Pfandleiher's review thread:
Quote:
Some time ago, the absorption rates for various methods of MDMA administration were posted on Bluelight. They went along the lines of:
Oral = 40-60%
Nasal = 60-70%
Rectal = 80-90%
Since the original posting, these figures have been quoted as gospel on Bluelight and other reputable sites.
These figures are inaccurate. Diligent searching babydoc_vic, Catch-22, fairnymph, and Simon revealed these numbers to be almost total fabrications and the work of another Bluelighter’s imagination.
Please help stop any further spread of this misinformation.
Good job stopping the further spread of this misinformation, SpiceTrader. ;)
Anyone have any idea of the actual, real figures??
Yeah so im not completely sure of the exact figures...
But speaking from experience, the onset of the roll is much quicker and more intense, but obviously there are alot factors that need to be taken into consideration....
Does the roll last longer, shorter, or about the same?
-
Like all drugs I assume. Dependent on dosage.
Oral - Longer onset, intense come up, longer plateau, longer comedown/lasting --- Also take stomach content into account. Great to roll face and dance your pants off.
Nasal - Quicker onset, less intense come up, weaker plateau , faster comedown/lasting --- Unlikely to absolutely roll face, or at least I haven't. I prefer it when wanting to socialize lots.
Rectal - Not sure? Probably similar to more intense than oral. Might feel good with a BJ? :P
-
What about IV? the onset would be massive, probably chucking up material, but I would imagine the comedown to be the shittiest and be the shortest lasting?
-
I don't want to come across as ignorant but how can anyone plug their drugs? It would ruin my roll knowing how it got in to my system ::)
-
If want to get super duper long rolls, try taking two teaspoons of sodium bicarbonate dissolved in water (baking soda).
It will make you feel the "MDMA effects" for up to seven hours. Not kidding, baking soda is the real shit with MDMA and amphetamines.
-
I don't think plugging it would bother me doing it's more of what my friends would think about it ha.
-
I don't want to come across as ignorant but how can anyone plug their drugs? It would ruin my roll knowing how it got in to my system ::)
Dissolve some of your drugs into water, and use a syringe to shoot it up your arse. Squeeze your buttcheecks together and happy tripping ;D
-
Could be kinky if your gf did it for you, but I dont know Ive heard all the stories that it works but I dont feel comfortable with it
Girls can at least plug it in their pussies, that would be hot, wonder if any girls that could chime in on here about that and the effectiveness of it
*Perv disclaimer*
-
I don't want to come across as ignorant but how can anyone plug their drugs? It would ruin my roll knowing how it got in to my system ::)
Dissolve some of your drugs into water, and use a syringe to shoot it up your arse. Squeeze your buttcheecks together and happy tripping ;D
Hahahaha! +1 for making me laugh. Seriously though, why would you want to do it? It sounds good in theory, quicker onset and a good duration but damn if my friends found out :-\.
-
I don't want to come across as ignorant but how can anyone plug their drugs? It would ruin my roll knowing how it got in to my system ::)
Dissolve some of your drugs into water, and use a syringe to shoot it up your arse. Squeeze your buttcheecks together and happy tripping ;D
Hahahaha! +1 for making me laugh. Seriously though, why would you want to do it? It sounds good in theory, quicker onset and a good duration but damn if my friends found out :-\.
It's because it takes less for the same high, but that is honestly how you do it, mix with water and shoot it in your ass with a syringe. I've seen stranger things, I used to live next to a girl that would come and trip with me a lot and if we took a few tabs of lsd she would put one in her mouth and one in her pussy. She said it burned a bit but I'd usually kiss it and make it feel better.
-
Why the hell are all you so afraid of plugging?
You dissolve it just like an IV shot, draw up in oral syringe, lube, insert, push off...
IT"S NOT GAY YOU FUCKS!
ITS about getting all you can out of what you have
Peace
Stunt Bum
-
Um, plugging sounds HORRIBLE!!! I serioously think a wet fart when I'm rolling would be the most horrible thing.
Are wet farts an issue?
Tell me about IM shots. IV always was a no-no in my book, but IM actually sounds doable. Though, maybe thats a bad road to go down. It has a bad stigma to it.
-
Um, plugging sounds HORRIBLE!!! I serioously think a wet fart when I'm rolling would be the most horrible thing.
Are wet farts an issue?
Tell me about IM shots. IV always was a no-no in my book, but IM actually sounds doable. Though, maybe thats a bad road to go down. It has a bad stigma to it.
Rectal has become my favorite route over the past couple months. Wet farts are not an issue. I use 2ml of water, and lie down on my stomach until I come up. The water is all absorbed by then. Absorbing water is your rectum's job, so it takes up 2ml pretty fast.
I don't understand why people think it's so horrible. It doesn't hurt, it doesn't upset your stomach, and you feel stronger effects from the same amount of drug. You don't have to shove your finger up there... just use an oral syringe and throw it out when you're done with it.
I'm a heterosexual male, and I find the feeling of MDMA taken rectally to be slightly erotic.
I'd really advice against doing it IM for the following reasons:
1.) It would likely hurt like fucking hell. Medicines that are *meant* to be used IM hurt, and MDMA tends to burn a lot when used nasally, so I could only imagine what it would feel like in your muscle tissue.
2.) People don't realize, but IM is generally less safe than IV. If you have even a little contaminate in the substance you're injecting, it will get stuck in your deep muscle tissue. This can lead to very serious infections that require major surgery or amputation to fix. If you're to the point where you're willing to stick a needle in yourself, just IV. (speaking in general about drugs, not specifically MDMA here). With IV, you run less risk of deep infection, and you only have to stick the needle in a couple milimeters, as opposed to an inch or more.
-
Why the hell are all you so afraid of plugging?
You dissolve it just like an IV shot, draw up in oral syringe, lube, insert, push off...
IT"S NOT GAY YOU FUCKS!
ITS about getting all you can out of what you have
Peace
Stunt Bum
Lol why so butthurt? Too much plugging? ;D
And seriously, Stunt Bum? ;D
Fo real, putting stuff up yer arse is gay.
-
for details on mdma roas and ba, please check out the bluelight links below
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/620165-mdma-effects-based-on-ROA-moved-from-ED
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/618370-does-roa-affect-quality-of-experience-as-well-as-quantity
-
Do people seriously think that squirting a bit of water up your arse will turn you gay? Maybe I'm just more open minded than most, but plugging is honestly no harder than eating the drugs. There's no mess, it's quick and it doesn't hurt. If you're comfortable with your sexuality then the "gay" thing that some people are so preoccupied with doesn't even cross your mind.
-
I don't think its gay at all... it's a good method of getting the most out of your drugs. But it's just something I'd never do... I'm quite happy eating my MDMA, less hassle.
-
For real, anyone that's so afraid of plugging is either insecure about their sexuality or just immature. Having your prostate examined is so much worse but it's not like it makes you gay. :P Also for those of you worried about what your mates might think about you, just don't fucking tell them. ??? Besides you're taking drugs, it's not their business to know in the first place so who cares?
-
Now now fellas, its only gay when you cross swords.
But seriously there is nothing wrong with plugging, except for this one time I was peaking shitting myself on a toilet.
-
come on guess. if getting banged in the ass BY DRUGS makes me gay? well...ok im gay for drugs i guess?
:D
-
what if i dont have the time to lay on my side till i come up? can i just squirt up my ass and then start walking around as usual?
-
I have long history of sticking things in my ass... drugs as well. In my experience, the bioavailabilty of MDMA or MDA is high enough orally. There seems to be no real advantage to rectal, other than a quicker come up and peak. The effects of rectal do not outlast oral and, in my opinion, doesn't neccessarily feel any stronger.
-
i dont know sickboy (love the movie trainspotting ;)
i dropped 130mg orally one month...than about 2 months later i butt chugged the same amount. MONSTER DIFFERENCE and the anxiety come up was completely eliminated.
Simply put, it is MUCH different. but regardless. both are dope haha,
-
what if i dont have the time to lay on my side till i come up? can i just squirt up my ass and then start walking around as usual?
Depends if you have been anal fisted and have a loose bumhole. If so, I guess you would need to lie there for a while, if not, you would be good to go.
Since I am doing drugs and am pretty open minded I may have to try it next. A friend stuck a pill up his butt and said that the peak was more intense, dont know about the comedown though.
-
what if i dont have the time to lay on my side till i come up? can i just squirt up my ass and then start walking around as usual?
Depends if you have been anal fisted and have a loose bumhole. If so, I guess you would need to lie there for a while, if not, you would be good to go.
Since I am doing drugs and am pretty open minded I may have to try it next. A friend stuck a pill up his butt and said that the peak was more intense, dont know about the comedown though.
Lol my bumhole is innocent and untouched, im pretty open-minded too(not in a gay sense, fuck that) so i might try the oral syringe way, just gotta do it without my mates finding out haha
-
what if i dont have the time to lay on my side till i come up? can i just squirt up my ass and then start walking around as usual?
Depends if you have been anal fisted and have a loose bumhole. If so, I guess you would need to lie there for a while, if not, you would be good to go.
Since I am doing drugs and am pretty open minded I may have to try it next. A friend stuck a pill up his butt and said that the peak was more intense, dont know about the comedown though.
Lol my bumhole is innocent and untouched, im pretty open-minded too(not in a gay sense, fuck that) so i might try the oral syringe way, just gotta do it without my mates finding out haha
Start with a smaller dose than you normally use. My friend decided to plug his first time. He ended up projectile vomiting on the come up. He had a fantastic roll though. That might of just been him though, because another of my friends tried plugging and got some naseua but nothing compared to my first friend. They used the same dose too. Personally i'll stick to snorting my molly. that's the best way to take it imo. There is just something about how it feels going up my nose that flip's the "roll" switch in my brain.
-
Injecting water up my butt sounds like a terrible idea.
WET FARTS ARE NOBODIES FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
Injecting water up my butt sounds like a terrible idea.
WET FARTS ARE NOBODIES FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uhhh... maybe I'm the only one with any kind of spincter control. I can hold my farts in just fine. After all, it's not yer going to inject a half liter of liquid using a turkey baister. Just don't fart. Do you guys all just let that shit rip anytime it happens no matter where yer at. The movies with yer girl? Dinner with yer family. Just try to hold it in for like 30 seconds. That's all it takes.
-
Injecting water up my butt sounds like a terrible idea.
WET FARTS ARE NOBODIES FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uhhh... maybe I'm the only one with any kind of spincter control. I can hold my farts in just fine. After all, it's not yer going to inject a half liter of liquid using a turkey baister. Just don't fart. Do you guys all just let that shit rip anytime it happens no matter where yer at. The movies with yer girl? Dinner with yer family. Just try to hold it in for like 30 seconds. That's all it takes.
I'm glad i have been with my gf long enough to where i can fart around her. It goes both ways though, and damn does she stink after eating beans. She always tries to blame it on the dog lol.
-
i injected 120mg of supertrips molly up my balloon knot.
the come on isnt as overwhelming as through oral...but....man did i put too much, i was semi convulsing..but in a funny way, some of my limbs shook for a good 20 minutes during peak. but i was rolling like a mother fucker,
-
i injected 120mg of supertrips molly up my balloon knot.
the come on isnt as overwhelming as through oral...but....man did i put too much, i was semi convulsing..but in a funny way, some of my limbs shook for a good 20 minutes during peak. but i was rolling like a mother fucker,
One of the moments when you should munch on a bar.
-
I would be up for taking less MD to get the same high, if only it wasn't so hard to explain if you got caught plugging it in the toilet at a club or rave :-\
For me its got to be oral. I hate sniffing substances that are considered best to sniff, like coke, so the burning from MD is just awful.
-
Oral- probably the easiest and safest method of ingesting mdma. Dosage is usually around 100 mg and placed in a capsule which is taken like a pill. My personal favorite method is simply crushing the crystals (dosage pre weighed) out on the counter and simply mixing the powder into a glass of water or soft drink. The high is the most euphoric of the three and probably what is referred to when people talk about taking 'ecstasy'.
Nasal- Another commonly used method of ingesting mdma. Dosage is probably slightly less than oral however approximately 100 mg snorted throughout the course of the night is common place. The actual chemicals will burn the inside of your nose so be careful as the pain and tearing can be intense. The roll is also much more intense however less euphoric imo and slightly shorter in duration.
Rectal- Haven't tried this method however it is popular and according to most very effective. Dosage is usually a pill or if dealing with mdma crystals then I was say maybe 80mgs in a capsule as the come up and subsequent plateau can be very intense.
-
Fuck!
Well, I'm going to try EVERY TYPE of dosing
Same dosage, same dealer
I must study this... for science. 0_o