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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: BoNgOn on October 15, 2012, 01:19 pm
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"U are a moron...and also a dump fuck...
mebe i give your add too...yeah...i do that..i give your add the the popo..let see how u zz tonight.
i even let someone put dope in your mail box who ife close to U , the day we Report , send a nice sweet mail.
have a great day sir u are fucking with the wrong guy...... D"
Sent to a loyal customer by the man himself.
After our 2nd transaction.
AVOID!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!
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i believe that threatening anyone with the police will just get your accounts banned!
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that is unacceptable
i reported them to SR support
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and people thought this guy was a trusted vendor ( there are many)
its the bad apples in th mix whom make this not so pleasurable to use any more.
we need protection just as much as the vendors do.
Especially when you have 40 - 50 transactions and over 1000BC spent...
This guy sounds like a complete asshat
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and people thought this guy was a trusted vendor ( there are many)
its the bad apples in th mix whom make this not so pleasurable to use any more.
we need protection just as much as the vendors do.
Especially when you have 40 - 50 transactions and over 1000BC spent...
This guy sounds like a complete asshat
Just want people to be aware,
I value my safety
And my stats are as of today:
Total transactions: 61
Total spent: ฿528.8
Refund rate: 2.58%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 7 months
So beware AAKOVEN will do it to anyone!
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that is unacceptable
i reported them to SR support
I thank you for that sir. =)
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youre welcome, i just cant stand anyone who make threats like that, especially vendors to release addresses... this is of the utmost importance for SR to function as it does
i would recommend you actually contact them too, it will mean a lot more from you - since you can provide the actual messages and full info regarding the situation. all i could do was refer them to this thread. even if it was provoked in some way, as you present it, that is not a statement a vendor should ever make
please use the "contact us" link at the bottom of SR to report what happened if you are concerned about the safety of yourself and others
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youre welcome, i just cant stand anyone who make threats like that, especially vendors to release addresses... this is of the utmost importance for SR to function as it does
i would recommend you actually contact them too, it will mean a lot more from you - since you can provide the actual messages and full info regarding the situation. all i could do was refer them to this thread. even if it was provoked in some way, as you present it, that is not a statement a vendor should ever make
please use the "contact us" link at the bottom of SR to report what happened if you are concerned about the safety of yourself and others
I have done exactly what you recommended, we shall see what happens..
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This guy should not be allowed on the road AT ALL! I got scammed by him earlier this year, and while I let it go, it really bothers me that he's treating his customers like this.
Dude must be getting high on his own supply, fuck em.
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AAKOVEN has always been a piece of shit.
He's been selectively scamming for absolutely ages, that much is clear.
And these accusations are old, there have been numerous people coming forward continuously for months now and every time he was accused and trapped in a corner he would start communicating in almost indecipherable platitudes and sheer nonsense to cover his ass.
Yet when he was accused, and not with no proof whatsoever, actually with quite a lot of proof, people came forward to say how wrong everyone was, to say how much of a good vendor he was, to say that only scammers were accusing him (an absurd proposition that he himself CONTINUOUSLY tried to peddle). Just like with tony76, just like with noriega. Just like with every fraud and charlatan in history.
When are people going to learn that you can't suck a vendor's dick just because they send you drugs in the post? You wouldn't do it irl, cut that shit out here. Respect vendors, but stop kissing their asses.
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AAKOVEN has always been a piece of shit.
He's been selectively scamming for absolutely ages, that much is clear.
And these accusations are old, there have been numerous people coming forward continuously for months now and every time he was accused and trapped in a corner he would start communicating in almost undecipherable platitudes and sheer nonsense to cover his ass.
Yet when he was accused, and not with no proof whatsoever, actually with quite a lot of proof, people came forward to say how wrong everyone was, to say how much of a good vendor he was, to say that only scammers were accusing him (an absurd proposition that he himself CONTINUOUSLY tried to peddle). Just like with tony76, just like with noriega. Just like with every fraud and charlatan in history.
When are people going to learn that you can't suck a vendor's sick just because they send you drugs in the post? You wouldn't do it irl, cut that shit out here. Respect vendors, but stop kissing their asses.
I thank you for taking the time to write that. =)
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youre welcome, i just cant stand anyone who make threats like that, especially vendors to release addresses... this is of the utmost importance for SR to function as it does
i would recommend you actually contact them too, it will mean a lot more from you - since you can provide the actual messages and full info regarding the situation. all i could do was refer them to this thread. even if it was provoked in some way, as you present it, that is not a statement a vendor should ever make
please use the "contact us" link at the bottom of SR to report what happened if you are concerned about the safety of yourself and others
I have done exactly what you recommended, we shall see what happens..
Now we just wait.
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I'm not sure why he's still around, judging by his feedback score alone.
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Their reply to my message:
"Already messaged them when someone messaged me about your topic, but of course they were only responding to "Your a rat... and need to be disposed of.. I have reported your return address to the L.E.O... =)"
They responded to me asking how they could hand over your address when they don't have it, and to give them a break, implying of course they wouldn't do that.
~SR Support"
My reply too that and I presume the end of this topic:
"Okay but as a buyer you have no leverage, so my message was a mere attempt too see just what kind of seller he really is. As a last attempt to ever see that product... And how could he not have my address? The only way is if he never sent it at all proving my point he's a Selective Scammer.. The only person with no Address is me.. AS I haven't received the product were having this situation over..
Clearly there's a lot more going on here than what it seems at surface face, I assume as a seller of 1 year, hes fees are very appreciated...
Anyway thanks for the Reply.
~BoNgOn"
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If what I'm reading here is true...this is horrible news for my trust in using this site anymore. I won't get into any further till I understand exactly what the fuck is going on here.
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If what I'm reading here is true...this is horrible news for my trust in using this site anymore. I won't get into any further till I understand exactly what the fuck is going on here.
There ARE some honest sellers, don't give up hope.
Just do your research as you are, and you should be fine. I'm told this is fairly well known now, but I made the order before looking on the forums.
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There ARE some honest sellers, don't give up hope.
Just do your research as you are, and you should be fine. I'm told this is fairly well known now, but I made the order before looking on the forums.
Believe me I know, I'm one of them haha. I'll let all this work itself out before I draw my own conclusion but if SR Support is backing a vendor that threatens their customers like this there's more at play than meets the eye. I'm a bit put off if all of this is actually true. I would love to hear the pirate's input on something like this, doesn't seem conducive to the environment that has been created and nurtured here.
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There ARE some honest sellers, don't give up hope.
Just do your research as you are, and you should be fine. I'm told this is fairly well known now, but I made the order before looking on the forums.
Believe me I know, I'm one of them haha. I'll let all this work itself out before I draw my own conclusion but if SR Support is backing a vendor that threatens their customers like this there's more at play than meets the eye. I'm a bit put off if all of this is actually true. I would love to hear the pirate's input on something like this, doesn't seem conducive to the environment that has been created and nurtured here.
Yeah I 100% agree with you, I'm not really a shit stirrer, I just wanted too let people know.
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AAKOVEN has always been a piece of shit.
He's been selectively scamming for absolutely ages, that much is clear.
And these accusations are old, there have been numerous people coming forward continuously for months now and every time he was accused and trapped in a corner he would start communicating in almost indecipherable platitudes and sheer nonsense to cover his ass.
Yet when he was accused, and not with no proof whatsoever, actually with quite a lot of proof, people came forward to say how wrong everyone was, to say how much of a good vendor he was, to say that only scammers were accusing him (an absurd proposition that he himself CONTINUOUSLY tried to peddle). Just like with tony76, just like with noriega. Just like with every fraud and charlatan in history.
When are people going to learn that you can't suck a vendor's dick just because they send you drugs in the post? You wouldn't do it irl, cut that shit out here. Respect vendors, but stop kissing their asses.
I remember you going in great length on the thread "aakoven-US buyers beware" about this, and I also remember I promised you a +1 when I reached over 100 posts, so I'm gonna do that now :)
But yes, like Kap said, he is not "a trusted vendor" but an arrogant son of a bitch...there's one thing to be stern with your policies about how you operate your business but lashing out on them (the very same people that make his business work) but he just doesn't give a fuck. Guess at this point he feels as though he can treat his customers anyway he wants to because he'll always get more, and people will talk shit but he just doesn't care.
I've also seen customers take down vendors before with their bullshit, so it goes both ways-he has been here quite some time, so obviously he's doing something right-just not to standards that most of us here would like to see in regards to customer service.
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I will say this, He was supposedly sending me X amount of a product never showed for 2 months I assumed he ripped me off....then another month goes by and I get a letter form custom officials saying they seized X-5 grams of what I was supposed to get...
SOOOOO He sent me product but less than what I ordered. but also didnt give two shits about making sure it was packaged well which I think is worse then getting scammed all together cuz now an address is burned..I would of rather he not send me shit so I could stilll use said address.
Over all I would avoid him He doesnt give a shit about his customers and just wants your cash
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Their reply to my message:
"Already messaged them when someone messaged me about your topic, but of course they were only responding to "Your a rat... and need to be disposed of.. I have reported your return address to the L.E.O... =)"
They responded to me asking how they could hand over your address when they don't have it, and to give them a break, implying of course they wouldn't do that.
~SR Support"
My reply too that and I presume the end of this topic:
"Okay but as a buyer you have no leverage, so my message was a mere attempt too see just what kind of seller he really is. As a last attempt to ever see that product... And how could he not have my address? The only way is if he never sent it at all proving my point he's a Selective Scammer.. The only person with no Address is me.. AS I haven't received the product were having this situation over..
Clearly there's a lot more going on here than what it seems at surface face, I assume as a seller of 1 year, hes fees are very appreciated...
Anyway thanks for the Reply.
~BoNgOn"
So, to summarize:
1. For a few days you spam the forums about vendor being a scammer.
2. Then you tell vendor you reported his return address to LE.
3. Vendor gets provoked and tells you the same.
4. You make one more thread and paste parts of the message that makes you look like a victim.
5. SR support checks the facts and tells you to fuck off.
6. You play victim some more and accuse SR backing up scamming.
7. ?????
8. PROFIT!!!
Oh, and love how you have his return address and say you never received the package ;D Fucking scum like you is the reason why vendors starts asking to FE in the first place.
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Their reply to my message:
"Already messaged them when someone messaged me about your topic, but of course they were only responding to "Your a rat... and need to be disposed of.. I have reported your return address to the L.E.O... =)"
They responded to me asking how they could hand over your address when they don't have it, and to give them a break, implying of course they wouldn't do that.
~SR Support"
My reply too that and I presume the end of this topic:
"Okay but as a buyer you have no leverage, so my message was a mere attempt too see just what kind of seller he really is. As a last attempt to ever see that product... And how could he not have my address? The only way is if he never sent it at all proving my point he's a Selective Scammer.. The only person with no Address is me.. AS I haven't received the product were having this situation over..
Clearly there's a lot more going on here than what it seems at surface face, I assume as a seller of 1 year, hes fees are very appreciated...
Anyway thanks for the Reply.
~BoNgOn"
So, to summarize:
1. For a few days you spam the forums about vendor being a scammer.
2. Then you tell vendor you reported his return address to LE.
3. Vendor gets provoked and tells you the same.
4. You make one more thread and paste parts of the message that makes you look like a victim.
5. SR support checks the facts and tells you to fuck off.
6. You play victim some more and accuse SR backing up scamming.
7. ?????
8. PROFIT!!!
Oh, and love how you have his return address and say you never received the package ;D Fucking scum like you is the reason why vendors starts asking to FE in the first place.
Do you have autism?
Do I seriously have to explain this.....
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seriously? i dont appreciate you wasting all of our time and make me look like an idiot for wasting SR support's time as well trying to report this when it was you who instigated the whole situation in the first place
like was mentioned, dont just insult a member because they bring up a very valid point - that response claims you sent the return address to the police, and yet you were saying you never received the order so you shouldnt have the return addy... of course youre gonna get a hostile response when you threaten a vendor and your story is full of BS
if your order did not arrive thats certainly not the appropriate way to go about dealing with the situation
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seriously? i dont appreciate you wasting all of our time and make me look like an idiot for wasting SR support's time as well trying to report this when it was you who instigated the whole situation in the first place
like was mentioned, dont just insult a member because they bring up a very valid point - that response claims you sent the return address to the police, and yet you were saying you never received the order so you shouldnt have the return addy... of course youre gonna get a hostile response when you threaten a vendor and your story is full of BS
if your order did not arrive thats certainly not the appropriate way to go about dealing with the situation
Turns out the buyer was threatening the seller with LE at a non-affiliated address? SR forums never fail to deliver the drama lmfao.
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It was the best way to see the sellers true nature, If you guys don't get that just keep neging... Its all good.