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Title: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Ben on July 09, 2012, 01:45 am
What would be the best drug to endure an interncontinental flight?

I travel quite often on long fligts, and being a smoker that isnt always that easy to do.

What would you think is the best drug to deal with that situation?

I've tried things like temazepam before, but i really dislike the amnesic effects of that. Taking diazepam, oxazepam and a mixture of both requires an unpleasant dose to put me out of the ride. Is there any drug in particular that is favourable for this situattion?
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: ilovelsd69 on July 09, 2012, 01:52 am
Xanax maybe ? 2 mg may be enough to sedate you i think. It may depend on how much you weight..
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: blackend646 on July 09, 2012, 01:55 am
Personally I'd opt for a nice dose of mushrooms or LSD, an mp3 player and a window seat.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: NFHC on July 09, 2012, 01:56 am
are you trying to knock yourself out or relax; also how many hours?
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Vinnyg007 on July 09, 2012, 02:02 am
Personally I'd opt for a nice dose of mushrooms or LSD, an mp3 player and a window seat.

Yeah because tripping balls in a compressed aluminum tube 30,000 feet in the air traveling at 500 miles per hour sounds like a great time. I don't think Hunter Thompson himself would ever do such a thing.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: blackend646 on July 09, 2012, 02:06 am
Meh, I trip in indoors all the time. I'd think it would be relaxing to look out at the clouds and whatnot
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: NFHC on July 09, 2012, 02:10 am
Meh, I trip in indoors all the time. I'd think it would be relaxing to look out at the clouds and whatnot

the difference in that situation is likely the amount of control you have.

An airplane in a bad mindset being stuck in a seat with a seatbelt, surrounded by people you don't know, with the only choice in change of environment you have a small, possibly smelly bathroom.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: spd on July 09, 2012, 02:11 am
Tripping sounds like a terrible idea on a flight! 

Have you tried using nicotine lozenges while flying (or other situations where you can't smoke for a long period)?  It won't totally eliminate the cravings, but will definitely take most of the edge off - maybe enough so, that a smaller amount of valium will make the trip more tolerable.

Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: sdesu on July 09, 2012, 02:41 am
It depends on the length of the flight as well as how sedated you want to be.
Try either a nicotine patch (I do believe they allow these in your carry-on) or Xanax.

sdesu
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: monkey wrench on July 09, 2012, 02:50 am
xanax is standard for this situation.
do you have a trusted family physician?
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Gary Oak on July 09, 2012, 04:04 am
Take some shrooms/LSD with the Xanax, that will calm you down without dampening your visuals or creativity too much. :D I've flown on small flights before (under 20 people) and it's been so beautiful, seeing the sunset was magical. I really want to try skydiving on LSD ever since I first heard of such an experience, that would be life-changing. :)
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: sdesu on July 09, 2012, 04:26 am
I really want to try skydiving on LSD ever since I first heard of such an experience, that would be life-changing. :)

Bucket listed.

sdesu
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: sl1pknot on July 09, 2012, 05:48 am
Xanax/benzos or sleeping pills, even 3 benadryl (~75mg diphenhydramine) or so will help. I've slept for nearly 16 hours straight on a transatlantic flight after taking 3 benadryl and eating some hash butter. No better way to fly than being knocked out nearly the whole time. Also running on little sleep before doing this will make it extra easy to pass out. I frequently take long flights like the one you are speaking of.

edit: Or ambien (zolpidem) provided you actually try to go to sleep, but I dislike ambien... makes me get double vision and weird hallucinations and behavior if for some reason I don't actually fall asleep.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Hiding on July 09, 2012, 05:58 am
3 somas. If you wake up, take 3 more. It wears off in a few hours and doesn't erase memory.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: tea_drinker on July 09, 2012, 06:05 am
Tripping sounds like a nightmare, unless you had your own plane.. In which case, fuck yeah  8)
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Vinnyg007 on July 09, 2012, 06:17 am
You ever see that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner and the gremlin?  :o
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: stolea2269 on July 09, 2012, 06:31 am
You ever see that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner and the gremlin?  :o

Lolz.

+1 for making me laugh/having an HST quote in your signature.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: blackend646 on July 09, 2012, 07:46 am
You ever see that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner and the gremlin?  :o

Hey, I recommended a psychedelic, not a deliriant  ;)
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: weedsaves on July 09, 2012, 04:22 pm
Hydrocodone is great for flights.

And as for your smoking, do they allow those electronic vapor ciggies on planes? Seems like those would help you.

weedsaves
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: alanko007 on July 09, 2012, 10:00 pm
I'd personally go with an opiate. It's a matter of preference. Do you want to enjoy the flight or just pass out? :P
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 09, 2012, 10:41 pm
seriously fuck every other thing besides xanax or sleeping pills

every long flight (hawaii, australia, china, and some europe tripps) has been a fucking blessing for me with literally no jet lag based on my consumption of xanax and beer

basically for 6hrs and under, 1mg and 1-2 beers

anything over 1mg 3-4 beers or just 2mg and maybe a beer.

so much fucking fun waking up and being all rested and your clock reset while other are groggy. i cant stress xanax enough for flights

they should literally as $10 to a ticket for xanax to be given along with it thats how perfect it goes together
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Ben on July 10, 2012, 12:34 am
I'm not looking for a trip - i suppose some people may enjoy that, but the only thing i want is to be sedated for the flight. I am not at all afraid of flying, and i don't mind taking hops for a couple of hours, nor trying to fly a sailplane myself for a bit. Its just 10+ hour flights that get to me, combination of utter boredom, nonsmoking environment, and unable to do anything about it.

If i owned a plane that could complete the trip in reasonable time i'd surely be taking that - no smoking ban, and flying it would mean something to do, albeit rather boring on long straight flights (like driving endless highways).

A couple of drinks and some benzo's seem to be the most common answer apart from tripping out completely, and it's what i've been using in this situation before. The combination of alcohol and benzo's (at least temazepam, diazepam or oxazepam) gives me terrible amnesia though. Not that it's a bad thing to forget being stuck on a plane for the better part of eternity, its just very odd waking up just before landing in bangkok, badly craving a smoke, and with little idea how you got there.

I suppose i'll give xanax a go though - no idea if that will cause the same amount of amnesia as other benzo's combined with alcohol, but i doubt it would be any worse either.

For the smoking part: I'm never sure if they allow e-cigs or not - some nicotine gum or tablets surely deal with most physiological withdrawal, although for me they do not reduce the psychological craving for a cig one bit.

And for good measure, i am aware of the risks of taking alcohol and benzo's at the same time. Surely i do not want to risk respiratory depression on an airplane (which is extra problematic in the lowered pressure environment). This makes the dose a tricky balance however.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 10, 2012, 01:47 am
im not calling it a trip..im calling it an amazing start to a trip because of the awesome sedation xanax and beer do me in for a flight


do it. hawaii was a 10+ flight, 1.5mg of xanax and 2 jack a cokes later, aloha
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: ahead on July 10, 2012, 04:19 am
If its a long flight, xanax only lasts around 4 hours, so I'd suggest klonopin or valium since their duration is 8+ hours.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 10, 2012, 06:24 pm
XANAX

The flight will feel like you went through a wormhole.
You will stumble to your seat and stay awake just long enough for the Pilot to say it is okay to recline your seats.
Next thing that will happen is you will open your eyes and be at your vacation destination.

XANAX

exactly. exactly. exactly.

and as for the guys post above ^ (ahead)

yeah, xanax last 4 hours..but buddy, when u up it to 1mg and over with some scotch or beers....you add another 2-4 hours too..and i call that...rest and relaxation.

fuck valium. the half life on that shit is retarded.  xanax is it man. end of story
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Buster39 on July 10, 2012, 09:32 pm
Sry wrong thread.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 10, 2012, 11:15 pm
XANAX

The flight will feel like you went through a wormhole.
You will stumble to your seat and stay awake just long enough for the Pilot to say it is okay to recline your seats.
Next thing that will happen is you will open your eyes and be at your vacation destination.

XANAX

Amen brother. this should be the last nail in the coffin for this. Im telling you. i LOVE flights for this reason.

exactly. exactly. exactly.

and as for the guys post above ^ (ahead)

yeah, xanax last 4 hours..but buddy, when u up it to 1mg and over with some scotch or beers....you add another 2-4 hours too..and i call that...rest and relaxation.

fuck valium. the half life on that shit is retarded.  xanax is it man. end of story
^^^^^^
Yup. Xanax, fast acting and last the perfect amount of time.
And you can always pop another mid-flight.
With no tolerance 2mg is lights out for 4 hours and dream-state for another 2. Drink that beer, put on the headphones, wake up to Pilot saying "Buckle your seatbelts, we are descending for landing."
Really only need 1mg, then decide if you want to pop another.

XANAX--making flight bearable since 1969
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Ben on July 10, 2012, 11:58 pm
I'm inclined to taking xanax a try for this. At low doses it doesnt have much hypnotic quality to me, but 2 mg or so certainly starts to show its effects beyond anxiolytic.

Halflife is a conundrum here though, especially if you consider the combination with alcohol. The alcohol will break down about 10 grams an hour - not a half life, but a straight slope down. Diazepam with its active metabolites can take 2 days to reach half life (in terns of efficacy) whereas alprazolam is cleared very quickly. Normally the latter is fine for me, since i have more difficulty falling asleep then staying asleep, but for some reason i can't really sleep was well on airplanes. On an equally cramped night bus i'm usually out much easier. I'm not sure if it has to do with the sound of the engines, the reduced pressure or something completely different, but its annoying for sure.

It has nothing to do with being uneasy with flying though, i'm perefectly comfortable with taking plane rides and do so frequently... its just the long hauls (>6 hours or so) that tend to drive me a bit mad.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 11, 2012, 04:09 pm
here is is plain and simple

you take a good amount, with whatever fucking tolerance you have for the anti-anxiety part...up it slightly to the hypnotic part..right?


start drinking...again KNOWING your body....


now the kicker? (the best part of xanax over the others?)  the HALF LIFE...meaning you become refreshed QUICKER than valium ...hence the..."oh shit i just woke up and we are almost there/arrive or you got one hour of letting our a yawn, stretching, chilling the fuck out and watch something on your god damn, iphone, ipad, android, tablet, laptop, tits.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: mntmnwva on July 11, 2012, 06:55 pm
Weed brownies/cookies, and a bunch of good snacks!   ;D
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Vinnyg007 on July 11, 2012, 11:22 pm
I hate to be a chode but Xanax has only been around since 1981, I think it was patented in 1969. Ativan is pretty sedating. Try Ativan.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: TheAbsurd on July 11, 2012, 11:27 pm
Weed edibles & Xanax. Even if you're not entirely sedated, or the effects wear off, you'll still be in a "It's all good bro 8)" state for the rest of the flight.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 12, 2012, 01:12 am
brave new world..im tired of giving you +1 karma...let me just high five you bro

 8)
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Vinnyg007 on July 12, 2012, 01:23 am
I hate to be a chode but Xanax has only been around since 1981, I think it was patented in 1969. Ativan is pretty sedating. Try Ativan.

Embrace your chode. It is all you have got.
Now go back to begging people for money because you FE early for ThatDank.

Hey how about you go fuck yourself and get hepatitis from a heroin needle? It isn't my fault you don't know your benzo history. Don't be all butthurt because you're ignorant. ;D
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Vinnyg007 on July 12, 2012, 01:33 am
I wear my negative karma as a badge of honor. I give no fucks. I'm sorry if I come across as a douche, but if they had Xanax in 1969 they wouldn't have dished out barbituates and quaaludes. Benzodiazepines replaced barbituates. Common sense.

Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: gambino on July 12, 2012, 01:33 am
Personally I'd opt for a nice dose of mushrooms or LSD, an mp3 player and a window seat.

God that sounds so shitty to me.  To each his own, I guess.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: stolea2269 on July 12, 2012, 05:26 am
Personally I'd opt for a nice dose of mushrooms or LSD, an mp3 player and a window seat.

God that sounds so shitty to me.  To each his own, I guess.

Yeah, god forbid you get stuck next to the screaming kid.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: opi on July 12, 2012, 10:52 am
seriously fuck every other thing besides xanax or sleeping pills

every long flight (hawaii, australia, china, and some europe tripps) has been a fucking blessing for me with literally no jet lag based on my consumption of xanax and beer

basically for 6hrs and under, 1mg and 1-2 beers

anything over 1mg 3-4 beers or just 2mg and maybe a beer.

so much fucking fun waking up and being all rested and your clock reset while other are groggy. i cant stress xanax enough for flights

they should literally as $10 to a ticket for xanax to be given along with it thats how perfect it goes together

1 mg xanax + double crown&coke = chillaxin flight.

Thats what I did on my last flight and lets just say it only felt like it had taken 20 minutes to get home!
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: smokeweed420 on July 15, 2012, 03:00 am
i like a low dose of benzos mixed with a higher dose of opiates such as oxys, or heroin. ooooh its the best feeling ever.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: opi on July 15, 2012, 10:41 pm
and a good way to kill your self
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: CBear on July 16, 2012, 05:28 am
I would suggest using seroquel if it is a very long flight. It will sedate you for many hours, completely knocked out. If you have never used seroquel before I would take ten of fifteen mg.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: smokeweed420 on July 16, 2012, 07:21 am
and a good way to kill your self

its only a good way to kill yourself if your an idiot and dont know how to dose properly.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 16, 2012, 10:39 am
Wtf its all this nonsense? hahaha, eat a space cake and go to sleep. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 16, 2012, 04:46 pm
way to add more nonsense to the post

 8)
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: nospainnogain on July 17, 2012, 02:43 am
For some reason, MXE was a great airplane drug for me! I took a relatively small dosage, passed out for about 1.5-2 hours, woke up as the plane began descending, and bathed in the afterglow of the drug! And it's super duper discreet imo!
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 17, 2012, 03:33 am
speaking of discreet, im looking for a way to hop on flights with 3-4 molly pills and some capsulees of (whatever, 2cb, xanax)

any idea whats the best way?? and dont say up the ass. because thats obviously a good idea
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 17, 2012, 06:57 am
speaking of discreet, im looking for a way to hop on flights with 3-4 molly pills and some capsulees of (whatever, 2cb, xanax)

any idea whats the best way?? and dont say up the ass. because thats obviously a good idea

I think 4 pills would just be fine to put in the bag, otherwise you can put it under a shirt collar. And of course there`s always the ass, hahahaha ;D
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: nospainnogain on July 18, 2012, 12:07 am
speaking of discreet, im looking for a way to hop on flights with 3-4 molly pills and some capsulees of (whatever, 2cb, xanax)

any idea whats the best way?? and dont say up the ass. because thats obviously a good idea

Honestly you can just put it in like a vitamin bottle or something with a bunch of other vitamins. It's not really suspicious imo!
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 18, 2012, 02:09 am
The difference will be clear on the x-ray, but then again screeners tend to overlook those small details.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 18, 2012, 02:28 am
well, i desperatley need a way to like send over on a domestic flight

4 pills of molly
2capsules of cb2

i got awesome none labelled xanax that i have no problem with but yeah

molly and pills and cb2 capsules or some type of capsules
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: nospainnogain on July 18, 2012, 02:35 am
The screeners are mostly just looking for weapons, aerosol cans, lighters, and whatnot. They pretty much always overlook pills and stuff because if they didn't, airport security would take 3 times as long to get through. So many people need to bring medication on flights that to inspect any "suspicious" looking medicine would be absolutely ludicrous.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: KYmatt on July 18, 2012, 03:30 am
my wife flies international all the time...she likes ativan (lorazepam). myself i prefer 2mg klonopins (clonazepam) or if you can locate them...ruffies (Flunitrazepam) are my favorite for long international flights. no alcohol required...just sweet dreams and will awake at one with your seat. 1-2mgs works well for me....i know a gentleman that takes 5mg but his benzo tolerance is extreme and takes adderall when the wheels touch if he's too sleepy for business. clonazepam  and flunitrazepam ( has residual active metabolites that can last for days) have much longer half lifes than xanax (alprazolam) or halcion (triazolam). so if you are naive to benzos try xanax or halcion (triazolam) first.
remember you can always take more!dont over do it the first time. try some at home first so you arent stuck on a plane for hours with unexpected side effects. An initial prescribed does of xanax is 0.25-0.5mg....so start there and see how you feel. remember you can always take more...id hate to hear of you getting carried off a plane on a gurney!
i dont recommend alcohol in excess with benzos. amnesia and horrible hang overs that linger for days have been my experience.
enjoy your flight!\

kymatt
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: DrChong on July 18, 2012, 05:29 am
Surprised that not many people mentioned opioids. That would be my first choice: no having to deal with back/shoulder/muscle/any pains from sitting in a chair hours on end, can put you to sleep, and makes the ride plain more interesting. Take a few pills right before you go into security, and there you go.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: tea_drinker on July 18, 2012, 07:40 am
You can smoke an e-cig in the airplane bathroom undetected...
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Eatshitanddie69 on July 18, 2012, 08:00 am
Take some adderral you fucking faggot!
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: StickAFinger on July 18, 2012, 12:19 pm
man, you are a very, very unlikable person bro.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 18, 2012, 04:10 pm
well, i desperatley need a way to like send over on a domestic flight

4 pills of molly
2capsules of cb2

i got awesome none labelled xanax that i have no problem with but yeah

molly and pills and cb2 capsules or some type of capsules

Domestic flights don`t usually keep drug dogs and such. I think you`ll be fine.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Ben on August 25, 2012, 01:08 am
I've decided to stick with a tried recipe and it helped: 1 mg alprazolam some time before actually flying out, and 10 mg diazepam + 50 mg oxazepam for the actual flight. In combination with a few (not a shitload) of drinks, it kept me nicely sedated all the way from kuala lumpur to cairo, waking up only when they decided to serve breakfast an hour or so before landing. Dozed off again on the flight from cairo to amsterdam a few hours later, no idea if that was thanks to the medication or just fatigue.

Downside is i really prefer oxazepam for this kind of thing and that has been hard to get lately :(
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: quinone on August 25, 2012, 02:19 am
The right amount of GHB would knock you right the fuck out.  Just don't be expecting anyone to try and wake you if you're in a GHB coma for 3-4 hours.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Snoopish on August 25, 2012, 07:34 am
Take some adderral you fucking faggot!

Less than 100 posts: Current Karma = (-30 net). Awesome. You get even the lazy fuckers who can't be bothered to click the damn link to hate you.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: harryanslinger on August 25, 2012, 07:38 am
Large doses of oral cannabis worked great for me. Flying sober is the worst.
Title: Re: Sedation for long flights
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2012, 01:00 am
How much of a dose do you consider to be large?

Cannabis usually has little sedative/hypnotic effects on me, but despite being from holland i rarely use any and if i do, i smoke it mostly.