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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: SillyStoner on August 15, 2012, 08:20 pm
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I am trying to do the cash bitinstant option but when I try to goto the CVS near me they ask for ID even though I am transferring under 100$. Does anyone have any idea for alternative ways to buy bitcoin anonomously? Would purchasing bitcoin online but then using bitcoin fog be sufficient enough for someone only ordering personal amounts and not selling?
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That's odd, I've done two bitinstant cash deposits through CVS and they never asked for my ID, but maybe it depends on the CVS...try a different one maybe?
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There is one more place I can try tomorrow morning but what I am wondering is if I use a bank trans at an exchange to purchase it will bitcoin fog be enough to hide it for safe use on here?
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Plenty of people have done that and been fine, so I think you will be too. I just went to CVS to do another bitinstant deposit and still wasn't ID'd, so it must just be the one you went to. You can also go to Walmart and 7/11 to do the bitinstant deposit.
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I can guarantee you it was just the clerk working at the time, as I have used a CVS a handful of times, and one of those times it was a different clerk than normal and they asked for my ID. I have used walmart many times though and never been id'd, so maybe try Walmart.
Did you actually give them your ID? There's nothing illegal or wrong with pulling the ol' "oh crap I don't have my id on me, I'll come back", and then leaving. Sure they may know you are lying but who cares? They can't stop you from cancelling the transaction.
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You can Wells Fargo to bitinstant can't you?
Just to go the bank drive thru and you do not even have to go inside.
...been a long time. I do not remember.
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I posted in a thread about this issue yesterday. I went to a CVS last night, and after getting off the phone with the Moneygram rep, I proceeded to the cashier to finish my order, and as she was about to ring me up, the bitch, yes, she was being a bitch, asked for my ID. I told her I forgot it, and walked out. However, last month, I went to another CVS, and was never asked to present ID. It's crazy that they need ID to pay a "bill." I'll definitely check out some of the other deposit options, or I'll just go to another CVS.
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I posted in a thread about this issue yesterday. I went to a CVS last night, and after getting off the phone with the Moneygram rep, I proceeded to the cashier to finish my order, and as she was about to ring me up, the bitch, yes, she was being a bitch, asked for my ID. I told her I forgot it, and walked out. However, last month, I went to another CVS, and was never asked to present ID. It's crazy that they need ID to pay a "bill." I'll definitely check out some of the other deposit options, or I'll just go to another CVS.
1)Wells Fargo > Bitinstant
2) A different CVS
.....this is just that person or stores policy.
Truth is they probably have no idea what they are doing.
Call that CVS and ask to speak to the manager - tell them "I couldn't pay my damn bill because I forgot my ID...WTF" is that YOUR policy?
Anyway. Good luck!
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Thanks for the help guys! I have actual medical reasons that I NEED marijuana for (is this a possible legal defense?) so it's important I find some way to do this. I'm about to try the last place by here that I can. Mt concern is that I have filled prescriptions there with my real ID at the pharmacy center in the back and will be having to do so because of medical problems. Should I avoid this CVS? It's the only place I can try yet. I called the banks and they all require ID.
EDIT 8/16/2012 1:29pm EST:
I forgot to mention that I could still purchase it through an exchange online but my main concern with that is being traced. I was thinking that I could transfer it to a non-tor accessed clearnet address and and then transfer it to a tor net wallet address and then send it through bitcoin fog and then to SR and if anyone asked I should be able to claim that the tor account stole from my clearnet accounts bitcoins if any one asked as a deffense for the police.
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Unless you live in the middle of the Aussie outback, why not try another place?
Or another method all together.
How about this:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=36048.0
?
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Mostly because I don't have a car and I keep calling of the other places close to me and they keep saying they only accept money order without an don't accept money gram with out an id. So I need away to obscucure where bitcoins come from no matter how I purchased it because I might not be able to purchase them anonomouly and to get them through an exhange that is traceble about to me. So basicaly I would need to make the bitcoins that I purchase so that I could say they were stolen such transfering them to a clear net adress originally and then transfering them to a torifide wllet and then sehding through bitcoinfog and them to silkroaed. Would this be good sincd I am having troulbe finding a place that will accept a moneygram without an ID
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Truth is they probably have no idea what they are doing.
The last time I went to CVS, they hardly knew how to do MoneyGram. It took 2 employees to get it right.
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Okay I an about to try another CVS wish me luck guys! There aren't ant other monsy gram spots wihth oj distance so I' hoping it will work here. But if it doesn't work and all of the othetr places ID by me so I night do a brank//CC transfer to exchange and tru to laundery it besemdomgtp SR would this me legit;
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What's wrong with showing your ID? The whole point of bitcoins is that they can't be traced back to you.
Plus if they somehow could trace back to the shop where you bought the CVS or whatever then they'd have your picture on cctv anyways.
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Plus if they somehow could trace back to the shop where you bought the CVS or whatever then they'd have your picture on cctv anyways.
CCTV stuff will be deleted and written over within a week or two. Government enforcers move a lot slower than that.
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Truth is they probably have no idea what they are doing.
The last time I went to CVS, they hardly knew how to do MoneyGram. It took 2 employees to get it right.
The first time I used CVS for MoneyGram, the cashier kept telling me that my payment wasn't showing up on her screen. After calling MoneyGram 3 times, it turned out that the cashier wasn't looking in the right area on her computer. Arrrrrgh
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So lets say I can get a place to moneygram without an id. Would bounching it around a couple of torwallets and then sending through bitcoin fog be enough to discretly get my bitcoins to SR.
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Just send it straight to SR, it has a built in tumbler.
Tumbler
Just when you thought Silk Road couldn't be more secure, we went one step further. The tumbler sends all payments through a complex, semi-random series of dummy transactions, each with a new, one-use receiving address, making it nearly impossible to link your payment with any coins leaving the site. The quantity, frequency, and number of transactions are all varied chaotically in a way that mimics the transactions of the Bitcoin economy as a whole.
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yeah i don't get it. so your sending money to someone else. big fucking deal I would show my ID . do you think BTCs is only for buying drugs? there are many reasons we use this form of payment. go on the web, there are many people selling real stuff for BTCs and not just here on TOR....or SR.... Plus CVS does not know what you getting in return. CVS will not say "are you buying BTCs?" I could be sending money out for many reasons. When did it become a problem to send money to another person? There are people buying Gold coins for WOW games, there are people selling all types of virtual online gaming items and making good money. If I'm missing something here enlighten me :P
100% agree with that.
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Ok guys sorry if I'm getting annoying here just a bit nervous. So for getting USD to BTC I do either:
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Goto cvs and use my real ID and name and bounce between a bout a instant wallets and tor wallets before sending it to SR and get me some hash (/drool)
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Purchase through a back transfer at mt gox and then transfer all of the money to insta wallet. Then I open tor and create a Tor Wallet and bounce the money between a couple of Tor Wallets before sending it to bitcoinfog.com and then SR
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Do you have a question there ?
Those are two statements.
Have you looked at the thread I created walking step by step through the process (one way to do it anyway)?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=36048.0
There is no point in manually moving your coins through wallets, that would be totally transparent. (assuming you are trying to obfuscate your deposit) Just a waste of your own time.
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The question was if either of those would obscure my identity. All of the banks and CVSs by me require an ID for this I've tried them and every where else except walmart wants money orders not money grams and walmart is WAY to far away (I don't have a car). So I was asking if I would be safe just identity wise doing either of those two things or just buying online through a exchange then sending through bigcoinfog.
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Also is there anyway I can do it through money order? I know the giant eagle by me doesn't ID for money orders but bitinstant.com seems to only take moneygram? If I could use money orders instead I could do this no problem at all. I think it has a be a large amount like 500 or something for the giant eagle by me to ID you.
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may i make a sugestion? if you dont have a car why not put this much effort that your putting into buying bitcoins and saving this money you have to buy yourself a car?
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^ Um, saving up for a car costs a LOT more than spending a few bitcoins, and takes much more effort than acquiring bitcoins. There's buying the car, getting insurance, registration, licensing if you don't have one, and mechanical upkeep...you're probably some 16 year old who doesn't understand that. I cant wait until all you high schoolers go back to school in a few weeks...
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may i make a sugestion? if you dont have a car why not put this much effort that your putting into buying bitcoins and saving this money you have to buy yourself a car?
Because I prefer walking places it prevents me from getting a DUI when I am wandering around fucked and and it also keeps me healthier and saves a TON of money (insurance, maintenance, gas, speeding tickets, road tolls, buying the car, what ever taxes the gov feels like charging you during the process).
So basically it doesn't matter if the initial purchase of bitcoins is linked to me because obscuring them is no problem through either SR's tumbler or bitcoinfog? If this is true then why are people still going through the trouble of doing money gram things when they could just buy it and fog it from the comfort of their own computers? Seems pretty much the same if CVS is just going to card me any ways and if people say that doesn't matter and I should just give them my ID I don't see how buying it straight through the internet without bit instant would be any different.