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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: BigHookSmallSon on May 22, 2012, 05:16 pm
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Alright so I've asked everyone else, I might as well ask the authorities on drug related matters.
I have been buying ecstasy from SR for a while now but never taking them myself. Bought them all from SKYY and everyone who has tried them has said they are the best ever, so please don't say "your pills are bunk". (Props to SKYY for quality product, all my friends love you) Eventually I had time to try some myself, which would be my first time taking ecstasy ever.
Saturday night I was with friends and we were going to each take a pill and just relax and play some video games/listen to music. Friend takes his and he starts rolling hard in the first hour. I take mine and feel nothing and I end up taking another one about 2 and a half hours later. To end the night I still felt no effect.
Last night I was set on getting some type of effect so I took 2 right away and a 3rd two hours later. Besides not being able to sleep after 9 hours there was no effect either.
I am not on any medication(SSRI or what have you).
Basically I plan on just taking 3 right away this weekend and hoping that works. Besides snorting and plugging, which I will try if taking 3 shows no effect, what should I do? Anyone have advice or anecdotes relating to this?
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Hmmmm..
You 100% positive your not on any SSRI meds?? Any kind of meds at all???
When i eat MDMA on a full stomach, in can take a full 2hrs for it to fully hit me.
I don't like to redose more than an hour after eating my first dose.
I'm not surprised you didn't roll yesterday, give yourself at least two weeks in between rolls, even if you didn't feel it the first time.
I'd say wait awhile, maybe get some crystal MDMA, weigh out 150mg, snort half eat half.
If that doesn't work, you need to find some new drugs to get into
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Try taking a break for a while... a few months at least, if you can. MDMA tolerance builds up incredibly fast and using it every weekend or even every other weekend is not a good move.
If waiting for a couple of months doesn't work, you can always try starting a nootropic regime - the racetams in particular have been reported to "bring back the magic" of MDMA for those who haven't been able to achieve desired affects. Some people swear by them, and some people say they don't do much. However, for your situation, I'd say it's worth a shot?
Piracetam/Aniracetam/Pramiracetam are the ones you'd want to research. I know there is a SR vendor - Tryptamine (forgive me if I misspelled his name) who is extremely knowledgeable about these nootropics and their effects. I believe he even has some stacks for sale. Look into it! Otherwise, if you can google/figure out correct dosages to work for you, you can order most of the racetams in bulk legally from amazon.
I hope this helps!
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Yep! No medication at all, no drugs either.
I only redosed because I wasn't feeling anything so I thought why not.
Would you say 3 days isn't enough time to feel anything? I'm sure the effect wouldn't be the same with a 2 week break but it should still be there, right?
As for taking a few months break as suggested by Nocturnalbeyond718; I would if I had been taking ecstasy regularly. This was literally my second time ever and I don't think the tolerance builds up THAT fast.
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I hover around 185 pounds.
Let's just say the higher end of 100 but below 200 pounds
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How much do you weigh? Hubby needs at least 350mg to feel like he's rolling.
Damn how big is your husband?? I know some pretty big people and they normally eat the same amount i do with not much difference in effect, 125mg-200mg
And Big Hook, try taking at least a 2 week break. Yeah you didn't use MDMA much before, but you gotta let your brain restore some lost serotonin and shit.
Like Nocturnal mentioned look into supplements as well. Google preloading/postloading for MDMA and take some supplements so you know your brain is full of serotonin before you roll.
Eat 175mg of Skyy's MDMA and you should be good to go. If not I dont know what to tell ya
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Yeah. I'll probably just preload hardcore and hope it works next time I try in a few weeks.
This is just blaaaaaah. :(
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@Mrambulancedriver he's about 240 ... and he tends to need more than recommended dosages for some odd reason, even based on his weight
@BigHookSmallSon definitely wait 2 weeks before trying again
That's strange, cus i know people around that weight, if not more, and 350mg would put them on their ass hardcore.
Drugs do effect people differently though.
And Big Hook don't worry! Your first time rolling will be worth the wait.
And if it doesn't work in the next few weeks, well, maybe go see a doctor cus there might be something up with your receptors.
Although idk what exactly you could say to him/her "Oh yeah I'm worried about my serotonin cus I ate some awesome MDMA but didn't feel anything?"
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Maybe my brain just doesn't produce serotonin correctly.
I could just say I believe I have a problem with my brain, specifically relating to serotonin.
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Sometimes it's all about your frame of mind and your psychology at the time, some people say this is bullshit but it certainly isn't. MDMA is a drug which is extremely subjective to mood/surroundings as well as what meds you are on and body weight. I know from personal experience that there has been a few times where I have been in a shit mood or with people I didn't like and I couldn't come up.
Just something to think over.
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I have noticed that a few people seem to be unresponsive to mdma especially the first few times they take it.
I would say just stick to your guys and make sure not to eat for a few hours before hand.
Start by popping one and wait about 30-45 minutes. If you still feel nothing pop a second one and wait as I wouldn't really recommend taking more than this as you can easily get sick.
Good luck and happy rolling!
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Maybe my brain just doesn't produce serotonin correctly.
I could just say I believe I have a problem with my brain, specifically relating to serotonin.
You could investigate if you want to... perhaps that a couple of prozac/citalopram on a regular dose schedule and just see if you notice any effects after a few days. Not that these effect will be pleasurable at all, but you should surely noticed the offset serotonin/dopamine balance if your serotonin system is functioning normally.
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That's something to think about. I've never done x or any kind of mdma but i been thinking about it. In general, I have a high tolerance to all drugs.
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I would be careful about taking large amounts or preloading heavily to get an effect. Just because you don't feel anything doesn't mean it isn't having an impact on your brain, possibly a negative one.
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At 350mg, he was able to walk around with a normal gait, pour his own drinks, use the bathroom, etc. I know he's odd and very expensive, lol. We joke about him making up for me being extra sensitive.
What kind of drinks? Alcohol can affect your roll.
Lol he could use the bathroom. What's the alternative?? Everywhere is his bathroom. ;D
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Saturday night I was with friends and we were going to each take a pill and just relax and play some video games/listen to music. Friend takes his and he starts rolling hard in the first hour. I take mine and feel nothing and I end up taking another one about 2 and a half hours later. To end the night I still felt no effect.
Last night I was set on getting some type of effect so I took 2 right away and a 3rd two hours later. Besides not being able to sleep after 9 hours there was no effect either.
I am not on any medication(SSRI or what have you).
Basically I plan on just taking 3 right away this weekend and hoping that works. Besides snorting and plugging, which I will try if taking 3 shows no effect, what should I do? Anyone have advice or anecdotes relating to this?
First time I took MDMA, one pill did absolutely nothing for me. Empty stomach, no meds, nothing like that. But no effect, either. About an hour later, I took a second one, and I was rolling my nuts off. One pill has *never* worked for me. Weight at the time was around 115-120kg - but I think it had to do more with my mental state than anything else. I don't like to not be in control of myself or my surroundings, and consciously or not, I think my brain was probably fighting the effects until such time as the chemical presence became overwhelming and it couldn't really fight it any more.
Fast forward many years to the present day. I cannot seem to roll at all. Maybe the shit I'm getting just ain't shit [it doesn't come from here], or maybe my brain has just had enough, I don't know. In my day to day life, I'm pretty chill, I'm not depressed or unhappy - so I'm fairly certain that there is still plenty of serotonin flowing in my brain - but the rolls just don't come. They're more like teasers - I feel like maybe I'm going to start rolling .... and then ... and then .... and .... nothing. Kind of a bummer. C'est la vie.
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I guess, it's a fucking serotonine imbalance thing.
I don't feel anything with MDMA, E, LSD as well.
I wait 4 weeks and do a bigger dose then. One week left.
See this article for clarification:
http://guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2010/sep/28/depression-serotonin-neurogenesis?cat=science&type=article
That's why ADs do not work for about 50% of people doing them. There are too many serotonine receptors.
Fucking annoying.
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A serotonin issue would not explain insensitivity to LSD though, since its actions are mediated by a wide range of receptors, including the dopamine system. The serotonin pathway has a significant effect with LSD as well, but even if that were not vulnerable for some reason the effects on the other systems would certainly be noticeable at typical doses. You experience may be atypical, but not absent.
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I've only taken MDMA 3 times. The last time I tried it, didn't feel much at all. That was 200mgs. I weigh 310lbs and I come in at 6 foot 4 inches. Then I remembered that two nights before I took a little suboxone. A tiny little pierce. Let me say that Suboxone really kills all chances of getting "high" at all. I did some tests. Even after 4 days of not taking Sub, a good "high" still couldn't be achieved. Not sure why I'm saying this, but that sub is something.
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Do you take any supplements or vitamins?
It's true what people say about MDMA being a finicky drug but I'd expect you to get some effect if you aren't on meds and you're taking it on an empty stomach. You can definitely "think yourself" out of a roll, though.
Just take your dose and then try to relax and forget that you took anything at all. Also, you might want to make sure that you're warm enough. Cold hands or feet can really effect your roll. Generally I dress warmly then when I start rolling I start shedding clothes and sweating everywhere.