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Title: Questions about expatriating
Post by: mcgrizzle on May 15, 2012, 10:55 pm
I'm looking for a country to expat to. I'm in the US and was thinking about Canada until my brother lived there for a while and told me it's damn near impossible to find a good steak because the socialized healthcare means that Canadian government can dictate what you eat. I'm presently looking at Korea but i don't like their anti-drug policies(failing a piss test means jail time) other than that it seems ideal. I was wondering if anyone lives in South Korea would elaborate on how it is to live there or anyone who lives outside of the US detailing life in their country(expats are especially welcome).
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: oscarzululondon on May 15, 2012, 11:41 pm
Just become a citizen of any EU (European) country. Drugs are easy to come by, can move to any other European country regardless of past crimes and life if easy. The best Food, Women and Lifestyle in the world. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: souledout on May 16, 2012, 12:27 am
Uruguay bro Uruguay

Im in the process of buying a ranch there, 40 hectares with a macadamia orchard allready planted, farm house, staff quarters and out buildings , with fresh running stream access , 90 min drive to someof the best beaches in the world

all for just over 100k US !
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: souledout on May 16, 2012, 12:29 am
Oh and its legal to grow up to 8 ganja plants per person on your property !

Havent been invloved in a war since the 1800,s , free universal education up to post grad level, free laptops for school kids, nuclear free and probably one of the most vibrant economies in SA


cheap cocaine too !
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: Ungoliant on May 16, 2012, 12:34 am
If you are a US expatriate you still have to pay some forms of taxes to the us no matter how long you are an expatriate. Please see the wikipedia guidelines about being a US expatriate specifically. Actually, here is an excerpt for you.

"There are currently an estimated 5.2 million Americans living outside the United States. The US is the only industrialized country to tax citizens on income earned abroad, even when taxed by their countries of residence, though they are allowed to exclude their first $91,400. Additionally, US law requires expatriates to report any foreign bank accounts exceeding $10,000, with heavy fines for noncompliance. American expatriates have also frequently been denied service at banks and other institutions in their countries of residence, as the US government requires other nations to abide by its banking and financial laws when dealing with its citizens. As a result, hundreds of US expatriates renounce their US citizenship every year."
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: Gary Oak on May 16, 2012, 12:50 am
Uruguay bro Uruguay

Im in the process of buying a ranch there, 40 hectares with a macadamia orchard allready planted, farm house, staff quarters and out buildings , with fresh running stream access , 90 min drive to someof the best beaches in the world

all for just over 100k US !

This 100%!!!!

I've only seen videos on the web of Uruguay, but it's absolutely beautiful! Always dreamed about moving there someday. :D
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: mcgrizzle on May 16, 2012, 12:52 am
i thought expatriating was denouncing your citizenship for a citizenship in another country. if not, whats the word that I'm looking for?
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: Tryptamine on May 16, 2012, 01:06 am
Brazil; no extradition treaty with the US.
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: souledout on May 16, 2012, 05:46 am
Uruguay bro Uruguay

Im in the process of buying a ranch there, 40 hectares with a macadamia orchard allready planted, farm house, staff quarters and out buildings , with fresh running stream access , 90 min drive to someof the best beaches in the world

all for just over 100k US !

This 100%!!!!

I've only seen videos on the web of Uruguay, but it's absolutely beautiful! Always dreamed about moving there someday. :D

watch the Anthony Bourdain (the chef) epsiode about uruguay....if you like meat Uruguay is the place for you, you can get a steak the size of a fucking phonebook for like $2 usd at a local parrillada (giant bbq stand)

uruguay even holds the record for the worlds biggest BBQ !
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: Devoid on May 16, 2012, 06:10 am
Uruguay bro Uruguay

Im in the process of buying a ranch there, 40 hectares with a macadamia orchard allready planted, farm house, staff quarters and out buildings , with fresh running stream access , 90 min drive to someof the best beaches in the world

all for just over 100k US !
Okay, I have to be doing the math wrong. You're paying 2 cents per square foot according to my calculations.
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: souledout on May 16, 2012, 07:17 am
Uruguay bro Uruguay

Im in the process of buying a ranch there, 40 hectares with a macadamia orchard allready planted, farm house, staff quarters and out buildings , with fresh running stream access , 90 min drive to someof the best beaches in the world

all for just over 100k US !
Okay, I have to be doing the math wrong. You're paying 2 cents per square foot according to my calculations.


yep its that cheap, check for your self man. Im not gonna lie the place is pretty rough and its going to cost me another 70-80,000 before i could live there myself Ive spent about 10,000 in trips back and forth negotiating, but ill the be freehold owner at that price cash on the barrel-head plus another 10% in lawyers fees etc. Im going to lease the  land for grazing for now. Its allso the first step to residency and a passport in about 5 years.

im basically the getting the land for free and the house and outbuildings at below construction price where im living now

you want to see REAL cheap, check out Paraguay...you can buy a hectare of land for less than a couple of pizzas in New York...
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: Gary Oak on May 16, 2012, 07:53 am
Uruguay bro Uruguay

Im in the process of buying a ranch there, 40 hectares with a macadamia orchard allready planted, farm house, staff quarters and out buildings , with fresh running stream access , 90 min drive to someof the best beaches in the world

all for just over 100k US !

This 100%!!!!

I've only seen videos on the web of Uruguay, but it's absolutely beautiful! Always dreamed about moving there someday. :D

watch the Anthony Bourdain (the chef) epsiode about uruguay....if you like meat Uruguay is the place for you, you can get a steak the size of a fucking phonebook for like $2 usd at a local parrillada (giant bbq stand)

uruguay even holds the record for the worlds biggest BBQ !

I freaking love that show! I was so jealous watching that episode, it also made me salivate.... ;D

He's sort of a hero of mine, and a well known drug user as well. I prefer baking over cooking though. ;)
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: souledout on May 16, 2012, 08:06 am
its even better when you can smell it, and yes I have eaten armadillo :D

Its a really welcoming place to, and you don't stand out as the gringo because most of the population are 3-4th generation European immigrants.
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: ProudCannabian on May 16, 2012, 01:44 pm
Dude.  I live in Canada, and there is no governmental body of steak eating.
We can eat what we want.
Unless your brother has some crazy heart disease problems and his insurance company wouldn't cover him, that's the only thing that would prevent him from wanting to eat steak - he still could though.
Living in Canada is like living in the US, only with healthcare, less crime and relatively relaxed pot laws.
We do have our downside though, Winter, taxes and tight gun laws.  Oh and we have a shit ass conservative government that wishes GB was still president so they could pair up some more on destroying civil liberties.

I'd say Europe would be the most enjoyable and permissive.  I've lived in South America, and I can say that unless you are comfortable with a very humid environment (HOT and humid) and insects/snakes/geckoes/roaches, then that area of the world is not for you.  By humid, I mean, when I got off the plane you couldn't see out the windows of the airport because god(or insert deity of choice here) had a shower and forgot to turn the fucking exhaust fan on.
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: mcgrizzle on May 16, 2012, 01:59 pm
Dude.  I live in Canada, and there is no governmental body of steak eating.
We can eat what we want.
Unless your brother has some crazy heart disease problems and his insurance company wouldn't cover him, that's the only thing that would prevent him from wanting to eat steak - he still could though.
Living in Canada is like living in the US, only with healthcare, less crime and relatively relaxed pot laws.
We do have our downside though, Winter, taxes and tight gun laws.  Oh and we have a shit ass conservative government that wishes GB was still president so they could pair up some more on destroying civil liberties.

I'd say Europe would be the most enjoyable and permissive.  I've lived in South America, and I can say that unless you are comfortable with a very humid environment (HOT and humid) and insects/snakes/geckoes/roaches, then that area of the world is not for you.  By humid, I mean, when I got off the plane you couldn't see out the windows of the airport because god(or insert deity of choice here) had a shower and forgot to turn the fucking exhaust fan on.
He wasn't a citizen of canada. he was only ther for about a month for work. all i know is that he said that the food is generally bland and way too healthy. he also specifically commented on the difficulty of getting a steak
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: Meister on May 16, 2012, 02:11 pm
Lisbon - Can do whatever you want drug wise, people doing heroin right on the street. I'm not going to pretend to know what their drug laws are, but I was told it's a fine with no jail time for any drug at all.
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: CX on May 16, 2012, 02:17 pm
My dad lived in the US for 35 years of his life before moving to Australia and he's never looked back.

Great place to visit but you wouldn't want to live there are his words concerning USA

But we're full... so... try New Zealand.
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: ProudCannabian on May 16, 2012, 04:39 pm
Crazy, was he waaaay up north or something?  If you're in the arctic maybe it's hard to get a steak.  Hell, my city has more than 20 places advertising steak nights where you get a deal off their regular pricing.
I can also go to various "crunchy granola" stores to get free-range and/or organic beef.

Some places ARE quite bland, they think north americans all want plain potatoes and shit.
Sometimes I have to say, "Don't make that thinking I'm going to complain if it tastes like something, I'm eating Indian food, make it like you were going to eat it yourself."

I've lived in almost every province at one point or another, and there are a lot of highs, and a lot of lows.

Calgary has some of the BEST Chinese food in North America.  Hell, those assholes invented ginger beef.
Toronto is great for Italian and Indian.
Kingston Ontario though has the BEST Indian/Pakistani cuisine I've ever had.
Quebec is good for some pretentious French cooking, and really good jewish deli fare.
BC is great for Salmon/crab as well as Japanese/Korean food, and they have the freshest asian vegetables.
Lobster and scallops are best on the east coast.
There is this super trucker breakfast buffet place in Quebec where you can have almost any breakfast food 24/7 - all the way from granola to turduckin sausages with bacon strips, bacon strips, bacon strips.

Youtube Epic Food Time guys... they are Canucks.  ;)

If Obama/new president decides to leave the pot states alone, I would seriously consider moving there though.  The US can be so much fun.  :)
Title: Re: Questions about expatriating
Post by: souledout on May 17, 2012, 01:18 am
My dad lived in the US for 35 years of his life before moving to Australia and he's never looked back.

Great place to visit but you wouldn't want to live there are his words concerning USA

But we're full... so... try New Zealand.

dont come to NZ, trust me it HIGHLY overated , Its possibly the single most boring place on the planet ! 

 and its way to close to australia, you can smell them when the winds right and its not cool !

oh and they dont really like foreigners much in Aus either