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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Mixer on February 08, 2012, 07:34 pm
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Hello.
Me and a friend of mine bought 1g of 5x salvia and experimented with it, and now we have 0.4g left. We'd like to try a different RoA than smoking. So i thought about making a salvia blotter (I'm pretty good at chemistry) and taking it sublingually, which would work exactly like a quid but without the taste.
Will 0.2g each have some effects or is it better to smoke it? We don't want to trip, just to get that strange spacey salvia feeling.
Thanks :)
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The problem is bioavailability... see this NIH study "Lack of effect with sublingual Salvinorin A" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063546/
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Yeah i read that study but looking at Erowid people say it works:
hXXp://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=24597
hXXp://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=45926
(I will be making the blotter in a slightly more yielding way)
The first guy uses 5g to make 5 blotters, so that's 1g/blotter of plain salvia which is 0.2g of salvia 5x.
Oh well, i guess we just have to try it out. I'll report back on tuesday ;)
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Cool, good luck. I look forward to reading the report.
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Ooowww i had only half of what i thought was left :( i think i weighted it wrong... anyway i was nicely surprised because i thought it wouldn't do anything. Here's my recipe:
0.18g of Salvia Divinorum standardized 5x extract and 20ml of acetone were cooled to -10°C for 4 hours. 10ml of the acetone was added to the salvia and the mixture was stirred and left in the dark for 2 minutes. The mixture was filtered, the liquid was kept and the salvia was returned to the other 10ml of acetone. The mixture was stirred, left in the dark for 2 minutes and filtered. The salvia was discarded and the liquid was added to the first one. The solution was reduced to a couple of drops of volume evaporating the acetone on an hot water bath. The solution was put on two blotters using a pipette and the blotters were dried.
Each blotter has about 1mg of salvinorin a. I took one keeping it in my mouth without swallowing for 15 minutes. At T+0:20 i felt slight effects, i guess i hit the threshold dose. I was slightly lightheaded and i felt off of baseline though i can't describe it. My friend felt the same, so it's definitely not placebo. He also noticed a bit of euphoria. It wasn't a great experience but it confirms the blotter works. I'll get more salvia asap and try higher doses :)
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Interesting. A sublingual or even an oral dose of Salvinorin A sufficient for an actual trip would be great. Salvia Divinorum treated with extract is way too damned harsh to smoke and enjoy it. I wonder if the side effects will change by this RoA. If there were a way to rid one's self of the constant "feel like I'm sweating but I'm not" feeling, that would be cool.
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The trouble with a lot of the commercial salvia is that it is just dried and not cured, curing makes a massive difference to smoothness and taste as well as effects.
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I've never tried fresh salvia so i don't know how it is, but I'm talking about putting pure Salvinorin A on a blotter and taking it sublingually. My extract has exactly 12.5mg of Salvinorin A per gram. How would curing change the effects of the extracted salvinorin? :)