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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: DrGonzoII on July 25, 2012, 08:27 pm

Title: Anyone have any info about this one: 4-MeMABP
Post by: DrGonzoII on July 25, 2012, 08:27 pm
IUPAC: 2-(methylamino)-1-(4-methylphenyl)butan-1-one
Other names include: 4-methylbuphedrone, mebuphedrone, BZ-6378, and NEB

I recently got a little over a gram of this stuff and it seems that their is an absolute dirth of information about it.
Almost everything that I can find seems to be speculative. And of that speculation, Opinions seem to be split.
Some say that it will be like a stronger/better version of meph. Others believe that it is simply more cardio-toxic.
(I think one speculator even dubbed it "Bullshitidrone"

Some of the speculative doses were guessed to be around 30-50mg but the vendor said that they found 350mg to be a good dose.

I have titrated up to about 75mg and it just feels like plain CNS stimulation so far. Kind of like I chugged a large expresso.

So does anyone else have any knowledge or experience with this chem? I have seen it pop up on a few bulk RC lists here but I don't think anyone has really brought it up before.
Title: Re: Anyone have any info about this one: 4-MeMABP
Post by: DrGonzoII on July 26, 2012, 01:11 am
Ok. after having done some more experimenting with this chemical I have come to some conclusions

1) the immediate effects are incredibly short lived. we're talking 2 hours tops
2) it seems to provide more body effects than mental effects and I don't think it crosses the BBB very well. although there could be some mild dopamine activity going on. just enough to make it moreish
3) the predominant effects feel like nor-epinephrine based stimulation
4) I kind of feel like this the ephedrine of cathinones. (I.E. 4-MeMABP is to Mephedrone what Ephedrine is to Meth)
 
So I am wondering if it would be possible to perform an oxidation or a reduction (or some other trivial chemical reaction) on this chemical to yield something more useful.

Any Thoughts?
Title: Re: Anyone have any info about this one: 4-MeMABP
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 26, 2012, 03:22 pm
Ok. after having done some more experimenting with this chemical I have come to some conclusions

1) the immediate effects are incredibly short lived. we're talking 2 hours tops
2) it seems to provide more body effects than mental effects and I don't think it crosses the BBB very well. although there could be some mild dopamine activity going on. just enough to make it moreish
3) the predominant effects feel like nor-epinephrine based stimulation
4) I kind of feel like this the ephedrine of cathinones. (I.E. 4-MeMABP is to Mephedrone what Ephedrine is to Meth)
 
So I am wondering if it would be possible to perform an oxidation or a reduction (or some other trivial chemical reaction) on this chemical to yield something more useful.

Any Thoughts?

ISTR reading somewhere that 4-MeMABP is a prodrug for one of the "mephedrone analogues" that came out after 4-MMC was banned. I want to say "brephedrone" but don't quote me on that.  The conventional wisdom seemed to be that it was a weaker version of a weaker version of mephedrone and not worth the effort.