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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: poopiepants on March 29, 2012, 06:32 pm

Title: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: poopiepants on March 29, 2012, 06:32 pm
Hypothetically if I was to have something mailed to me that was illegal and was seized by postal inspectors and I got the dreaded "Love Letter", what are the legal implications for me?

Would it be added to a criminal record?
Could a "Love Letter" come back and bite me on the butt at a later date when applying for a job, buying a house, etc?
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: Prawl42 on March 29, 2012, 09:27 pm
what country?
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: Gary Oak on March 30, 2012, 12:30 am
I heard that as long as you don't reply the letter is all that ever comes. So just leave it alone and you should be alright if that info is correct. ;) This is if the letter's from US Customs.
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: yournamehere on March 30, 2012, 05:08 pm
I heard that as long as you don't reply the letter is all that ever comes. So just leave it alone and you should be alright if that info is correct. ;) This is if the letter's from US Customs.
What he said.  If its the US play dumb and change your ship address if you're worried
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: Limetless on March 30, 2012, 05:46 pm
I got the British equivalent to the U.S love letter the other day and I just left it alone. So-far-so-good and it's been about a month. It was quite a substantial amount as well so if they were going to hit the bricks it would have happened by now.

In summary: Wouldn't worry too much, just change up your address and possibly your sending name.

P.S: FIRST POST FTW!
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: Reseller on March 30, 2012, 10:51 pm
I'd go for a new PO box if I were you. Other than that, you're good to go.  :-*
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: poopiepants on March 30, 2012, 11:58 pm
I heard that as long as you don't reply the letter is all that ever comes. So just leave it alone and you should be alright if that info is correct. ;) This is if the letter's from US Customs.

Domestic in the USA, from State-to-Sate.
1) So the postal inspectors do not forward this information to state or federal authorities?
2) What is the "official" name of the love letters?
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: SpeedCrunch on March 31, 2012, 12:43 am
I got the British equivalent to the U.S love letter the other day and I just left it alone. So-far-so-good and it's been about a month. It was quite a substantial amount as well so if they were going to hit the bricks it would have happened by now.

In summary: Wouldn't worry too much, just change up your address and possibly your sending name.

P.S: FIRST POST FTW!

@Limetless

Can you give anymore details about the UK love letter? Like what the wording is like does it say your liable for prosecution or give you options about what to do about said seized contents.

Just wondering because I have an EU order (Class A) on the way to the UK that is overdue and am starting to get very paranoid that customs may have seized it. Also can I ask where the contents Class A and was your order long overdue when you got your letter?


Kind Regards
SpeedCrunch
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 31, 2012, 01:08 am
I heard that as long as you don't reply the letter is all that ever comes. So just leave it alone and you should be alright if that info is correct. ;) This is if the letter's from US Customs.

Domestic in the USA, from State-to-Sate.
1) So the postal inspectors do not forward this information to state or federal authorities?
2) What is the "official" name of the love letters?

You can't get a love letter for a domestic shipment... they can't inspect your domestic mail, without a warrant already. If they are looking in your domestic shipments, they can get a warrant for your arrest too probably.
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: poopiepants on March 31, 2012, 01:35 am
I heard that as long as you don't reply the letter is all that ever comes. So just leave it alone and you should be alright if that info is correct. ;) This is if the letter's from US Customs.

Domestic in the USA, from State-to-Sate.
1) So the postal inspectors do not forward this information to state or federal authorities?
2) What is the "official" name of the love letters?

You can't get a love letter for a domestic shipment... they can't inspect your domestic mail, without a warrant already. If they are looking in your domestic shipments, they can get a warrant for your arrest too probably.

OK, then what would happen if I was domestically sent a personal use amount and it was intercepted by mail inspectors?
Added to a criminal record? What would happen?
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: thedoctorisin on March 31, 2012, 06:12 am
I heard that as long as you don't reply the letter is all that ever comes. So just leave it alone and you should be alright if that info is correct. ;) This is if the letter's from US Customs.

Domestic in the USA, from State-to-Sate.
1) So the postal inspectors do not forward this information to state or federal authorities?
2) What is the "official" name of the love letters?

You can't get a love letter for a domestic shipment... they can't inspect your domestic mail, without a warrant already. If they are looking in your domestic shipments, they can get a warrant for your arrest too probably.

OK, then what would happen if I was domestically sent a personal use amount and it was intercepted by mail inspectors?
Added to a criminal record? What would happen?

You need to be arrested and found guilty in a court of law (convicted of a crime) for it to be "added to your record". 

That said, if you were to get a love letter the PO may add your address to a list for mail to watch, which they are rumored to do, but you have not been convicted of anything so no showing up on a background check, no problem getting job, no trouble getting a mortgage because of the love letter.
Title: Re: What are the legal implications of receiving a "Love Letter"?
Post by: Limetless on March 31, 2012, 06:26 am
I got the British equivalent to the U.S love letter the other day and I just left it alone. So-far-so-good and it's been about a month. It was quite a substantial amount as well so if they were going to hit the bricks it would have happened by now.

In summary: Wouldn't worry too much, just change up your address and possibly your sending name.

P.S: FIRST POST FTW!

@Limetless

Can you give anymore details about the UK love letter? Like what the wording is like does it say your liable for prosecution or give you options about what to do about said seized contents.

Just wondering because I have an EU order (Class A) on the way to the UK that is overdue and am starting to get very paranoid that customs may have seized it. Also can I ask where the contents Class A and was your order long overdue when you got your letter?


Kind Regards
SpeedCrunch

Sup SpeedCrunch, yeah sure I'll fill you in.

I'll explain the circumstances a bit more for you so you can see what I mean. In a nutshell I went on a little trip to the Dam and sent a package back (quite a big one) and my dipstick mate forgot to put a fake name on it so it traveled with my real name on it. Dick-Move. It got seized BUT I wasn't the receiver and I was back in the country before the letter was sent. The package was taken out of the parcel but the rest was let go and sailed through (there was other stuff in it, weird that they only took some out huh?) and they sent a letter to the PO Box which was then given to the receiver and passed on. It said that they withheld it and they could test it at any time under the various drug acts and the receiver had 30 days to claim it. This was nearly a month ago and there has been no word since this time, and clearly the Bacon knows where I live because I am claim benefits. If they were going to do something they would have by now because it was a considerably large amount that was seized.

I think if an attempt to collect it was made then we would have been arrested but as I have no criminal record AND I was in the U.K again before the package itself was seized the CPS wouldn't bother with it because there is too many potholes for them to build a case and no solid evidence it was me that sent it. The PO box place I use is pretty handy too because you don't have to give them I.D, it's one of the very few that doesn't.

I hope this is helpful to you, if you want to discuss it more PM me.