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Title: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 03:15 pm
Who's been through it then? Would be good to tell some stories given the amount of people with access to cheap benzos in large amounts.

I started with Xanax in the evening most nights, soon became every night. Started smoking weed again which makes me paranoid so took even more Xanax (6mg a night ish). Ran out, didn't think much of it.

Spend the next day screaming, crying and being too scared to even look out of the window. It was like the world fell apart over night. I was naive and stupid, I had no idea how bad it would be.

So I switched to Valium and tapered over 2 months. Was really easy to do in the end, just needed to be done properly. If anyone wants any advice I am happy to help. There's also some good forums and support groups out there. DO NO ATTEMPT TO GO COLD TURKEY IT CAN KILL YOU.

Anyone with similar stories please share if you are willing to, I dont think people realize how bad the withdrawal is.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 03:21 pm
6mg is a LOT of xanax.
I've never had withdrawal from anything, but I'm interested in hearing stories.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 03:27 pm
6mg is a LOT of xanax.
I've never had withdrawal from anything, but I'm interested in hearing stories.

your not wrong, 4mg of Xanax put the girlfriend to sleep for 2 days! even with a month brake 2mg does very little to me.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 03:36 pm
6mg is a LOT of xanax.
I've never had withdrawal from anything, but I'm interested in hearing stories.

your not wrong, 4mg of Xanax put the girlfriend to sleep for 2 days! even with a month brake 2mg does very little to me.
When you first started taking xanax, what dose did you use?

I don't take it often and I find .5mg is plenty.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Railgun on May 14, 2013, 03:40 pm
Horrible.  Death is possible, even probable, depending on how much and how long you have been ingesting:

I actually have a script for a long-acting benzo, and have sadly been on them for almost a half decade daily.  I know how damaging they are, but they truly help my anxiety, so I live with the dependence.

I once ran out during a winter storm.  My heart started going through palpitations; I also became paranoid and easily angered.  My body felt as though it aged 20-30 years; it was very hard to maintain muscle stength.  I could not sleep at all. I'd sleep for about 10 minutes before a "zap" or tremor would wake me up (this is a sign that a seizure may ensure from reading).   I called an emergency hotline to get possibly helicopter-vacced if I could not endure the night, but the snow was coming down far too much and impeded visibility. They kept me calm.

Two days into it, I could not sleep at all. The snow had stopped, so had a friend drive me to pick up my script. At this point, I was twitching quite considerably.  I took the tablet as soon as I got it, and everything subsided within about 10 minutes.  If it had been about 3-4 days longer, according to the pharmacist, I could've had a seizure and/or brain damage.


These drugs are no joke; if you can't get a steady supply, please don't get addicted to them.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Railgun on May 14, 2013, 03:45 pm
Also, from my reading/scant biochemical knowledge:

These drugs are so potent in withdrawl because they act, not only on GABA, but on other systems, including serotonin, dopamine, etc.  For those that have never embattled benzo withdrawl, it is pretty much like combining withdrawls from an antidepressant (serotonin brain zaps), coke (dopamine paranoia), and alcohol (GABA) to put it in perspective.  Unlike other withdrawls in which the individual can suffer but not die, death may occur, or at least a seizure, which you may or may not be fully functional after.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 03:52 pm
6mg is a LOT of xanax.
I've never had withdrawal from anything, but I'm interested in hearing stories.

your not wrong, 4mg of Xanax put the girlfriend to sleep for 2 days! even with a month brake 2mg does very little to me.
When you first started taking xanax, what dose did you use?

I don't take it often and I find .5mg is plenty.

2mg (I seem to have an oddly high tolerance to any drug I try)
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 03:56 pm
Horrible.  Death is possible, even probable, depending on how much and how long you have been ingesting:

I actually have a script for a long-acting benzo, and have sadly been on them for almost a half decade daily.  I know how damaging they are, but they truly help my anxiety, so I live with the dependence.

I once ran out during a winter storm.  My heart started going through palpitations; I also became paranoid and easily angered.  My body felt as though it aged 20-30 years; it was very hard to maintain muscle stength.  I could not sleep at all. I'd sleep for about 10 minutes before a "zap" or tremor would wake me up (this is a sign that a seizure may ensure from reading).   I called an emergency hotline to get possibly helicopter-vacced if I could not endure the night, but the snow was coming down far too much and impeded visibility. They kept me calm.

Two days into it, I could not sleep at all. The snow had stopped, so had a friend drive me to pick up my script. At this point, I was twitching quite considerably.  I took the tablet as soon as I got it, and everything subsided within about 10 minutes.  If it had been about 3-4 days longer, according to the pharmacist, I could've had a seizure and/or brain damage.


These drugs are no joke; if you can't get a steady supply, please don't get addicted to them.

shit man I am sorry to hear that, did you manage to get off them? what benzo were you on? Its very hard in the UK to get any kind of benzo script but I hear in the USA its quite easy.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 03:56 pm
Horrible.  Death is possible, even probable, depending on how much and how long you have been ingesting:

I actually have a script for a long-acting benzo, and have sadly been on them for almost a half decade daily.  I know how damaging they are, but they truly help my anxiety, so I live with the dependence.

I once ran out during a winter storm.  My heart started going through palpitations; I also became paranoid and easily angered.  My body felt as though it aged 20-30 years; it was very hard to maintain muscle stength.  I could not sleep at all. I'd sleep for about 10 minutes before a "zap" or tremor would wake me up (this is a sign that a seizure may ensure from reading).   I called an emergency hotline to get possibly helicopter-vacced if I could not endure the night, but the snow was coming down far too much and impeded visibility. They kept me calm.

Two days into it, I could not sleep at all. The snow had stopped, so had a friend drive me to pick up my script. At this point, I was twitching quite considerably.  I took the tablet as soon as I got it, and everything subsided within about 10 minutes.  If it had been about 3-4 days longer, according to the pharmacist, I could've had a seizure and/or brain damage.


These drugs are no joke; if you can't get a steady supply, please don't get addicted to them.
+1
Thanks for the informative reply. This is why I think doctors hand them out way too easily. The addiction potential is very high. Even among drug users who use them for coming down off  MDMA / speed / meth / coke it can be very addictive because of the way they work and make all anxiety diminish and relax you. People start using them when they relax, then they can't rlax without it. All of a sudden there is a problem.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 03:58 pm
Horrible.  Death is possible, even probable, depending on how much and how long you have been ingesting:

I actually have a script for a long-acting benzo, and have sadly been on them for almost a half decade daily.  I know how damaging they are, but they truly help my anxiety, so I live with the dependence.

I once ran out during a winter storm.  My heart started going through palpitations; I also became paranoid and easily angered.  My body felt as though it aged 20-30 years; it was very hard to maintain muscle stength.  I could not sleep at all. I'd sleep for about 10 minutes before a "zap" or tremor would wake me up (this is a sign that a seizure may ensure from reading).   I called an emergency hotline to get possibly helicopter-vacced if I could not endure the night, but the snow was coming down far too much and impeded visibility. They kept me calm.

Two days into it, I could not sleep at all. The snow had stopped, so had a friend drive me to pick up my script. At this point, I was twitching quite considerably.  I took the tablet as soon as I got it, and everything subsided within about 10 minutes.  If it had been about 3-4 days longer, according to the pharmacist, I could've had a seizure and/or brain damage.


These drugs are no joke; if you can't get a steady supply, please don't get addicted to them.
+1
Thanks for the informative reply. This is why I think doctors hand them out way too easily. The addiction potential is very high. Even among drug users who use them for coming down off  MDMA / speed / meth / coke it can be very addictive because of the way they work and make all anxiety diminish and relax you. People start using them when they relax, then they can't rlax without it. All of a sudden there is a problem.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 03:59 pm
6mg is a LOT of xanax.
I've never had withdrawal from anything, but I'm interested in hearing stories.

your not wrong, 4mg of Xanax put the girlfriend to sleep for 2 days! even with a month brake 2mg does very little to me.
When you first started taking xanax, what dose did you use?

I don't take it often and I find .5mg is plenty.

2mg (I seem to have an oddly high tolerance to any drug I try)
That's probably why you said cocaine doesn't give you euphoria either. That must suck, but we are all different.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 04:00 pm
6mg is a LOT of xanax.
I've never had withdrawal from anything, but I'm interested in hearing stories.

your not wrong, 4mg of Xanax put the girlfriend to sleep for 2 days! even with a month brake 2mg does very little to me.
When you first started taking xanax, what dose did you use?

I don't take it often and I find .5mg is plenty.

2mg (I seem to have an oddly high tolerance to any drug I try)
That's probably why you said cocaine doesn't give you euphoria either. That must suck, but we are all different.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 04:03 pm
+1
This is why I think doctors hand them out way too easily.

Do doctors in the USA do this? in the UK you will be lucky if you get 5 x 0.5 vals for something like neck pain. Never heard of them prescribing them on a long term basis and never at a strong strength. They used to though but I guess they realized how many addicts they had made. Wasnt it once referred to as "mummys little helper"  :-\
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 04:06 pm
That's probably why you said cocaine doesn't give you euphoria either. That must suck, but we are all different.

Yeah it does nothing for me, bad stuff just makes me over heat and not sleep all night (the speed in it I guess) and the good stuff just makes me go a bit numb (can hardly even tell I have had it). People think its me showing off and bragging but its just annoying and expensive.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Railgun on May 14, 2013, 04:18 pm


shit man I am sorry to hear that, did you manage to get off them? what benzo were you on? Its very hard in the UK to get any kind of benzo script but I hear in the USA its quite easy.

No, I haven't.  Some of us genuinely have anxiety problems that are complicated by other disorders, so the trade-off is being able to live life while acknowledging that you could lose it if you abruptly stop a peppermint pill (clonezepam).  I think it's similar to how a cancer patient would view chemotherapy.  I don't use them everyday in order to mitigate tolerance, but luckily it's long acting. 

The US is slowly shifting towards getting rid of benzos because of their addictive and lethal properties in withdrawals.  However, it's still easy, at this point, to find some unscrupulous Dr.s (ones who will get you in and out so quick that you wonder what even transpired) who will prescribe them.  A friend of mine who also suffers is getting his completely canned; I may introduce him to the road simply because the withdrawals may become intolerable for him over time.

If I were to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that your health care system probably is more strict with giving out medications because it's responsible for taking care of you when you get ill, so a withdrawl is MORE money for them in the long run.  Here, that's not the case yet. Either way, if you keep doing them at a bare mimumum for come-downs and the like, I see no problem.  But I wouldn't habituate it at all if I didn't have a disorder that required me to do so.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 04:21 pm
That's probably why you said cocaine doesn't give you euphoria either. That must suck, but we are all different.

Yeah it does nothing for me, bad stuff just makes me over heat and not sleep all night (the speed in it I guess) and the good stuff just makes me go a bit numb (can hardly even tell I have had it). People think its me showing off and bragging but its just annoying and expensive.
It could also be that you didn't "notice" the cocaine. It is kind of subtle... Kicks in slowly. it's hard to explain. The first time I ever had coke (it was good quality too), it was decent but I didn't really feel much. A bit numb and some extra energy... I think it was because I spent the whole time anticipating what it is going to do. Now I know exactly what it does and it works well. My worry of "am I high yet?" overrode the high itself. It's easy to do on speed as well if you don't know what to expect. That's what I found anyway. My first few speed sessions had none / little euphoria. Just a lot of energy.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 04:22 pm


shit man I am sorry to hear that, did you manage to get off them? what benzo were you on? Its very hard in the UK to get any kind of benzo script but I hear in the USA its quite easy.

No, I haven't.  Some of us genuinely have anxiety problems that are complicated by other disorders, so the trade-off is being able to live life while acknowledging that you could lose it if you abruptly stop a peppermint pill (clonezepam).

I can understand that, I didn't leave the house for 2 years a long while ago. I found certain non drug methods worked well for me but was hard work.

All the best
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 04:23 pm
That's probably why you said cocaine doesn't give you euphoria either. That must suck, but we are all different.

Yeah it does nothing for me, bad stuff just makes me over heat and not sleep all night (the speed in it I guess) and the good stuff just makes me go a bit numb (can hardly even tell I have had it). People think its me showing off and bragging but its just annoying and expensive.
It could also be that you didn't "notice" the cocaine. It is kind of subtle... Kicks in slowly. it's hard to explain. The first time I ever had coke (it was good quality too), it was decent but I didn't really feel much. A bit numb and some extra energy... I think it was because I spent the whole time anticipating what it is going to do. Now I know exactly what it does and it works well. My worry of "am I high yet?" overrode the high itself. It's easy to do on speed as well if you don't know what to expect. That's what I found anyway. My first few speed sessions had none / little euphoria. Just a lot of energy.

You may well be right as I was on my own just sitting on the sofa, if I was out and about I would probably have got more out of it.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 04:23 pm
+1
This is why I think doctors hand them out way too easily.

Do doctors in the USA do this? in the UK you will be lucky if you get 5 x 0.5 vals for something like neck pain. Never heard of them prescribing them on a long term basis and never at a strong strength. They used to though but I guess they realized how many addicts they had made. Wasnt it once referred to as "mummys little helper"  :-\
I'm from Australia and it is very easy to get xanax.
Just go the the doctor and say you have been anxious. They will ask you some questions and perhaps get you to fill in a form of your feeling about certain things and how you feel about them to deteremine if you have anxiety. Then, depending on the doctor and how bad your anxiety is, they will tell you to get counselling and give out perhaps script for xanax. it all depends how bad it is.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 04:28 pm
+1
This is why I think doctors hand them out way too easily.

Do doctors in the USA do this? in the UK you will be lucky if you get 5 x 0.5 vals for something like neck pain. Never heard of them prescribing them on a long term basis and never at a strong strength. They used to though but I guess they realized how many addicts they had made. Wasnt it once referred to as "mummys little helper"  :-\
I'm from Australia and it is very easy to get xanax.
Just go the the doctor and say you have been anxious. They will ask you some questions and perhaps get you to fill in a form of your feeling about certain things and how you feel about them to deteremine if you have anxiety. Then, depending on the doctor and how bad your anxiety is, they will tell you to get counselling and give out perhaps script for xanax. it all depends how bad it is.

Thats very different to over here. I hear in the USA Xanax is the number one recreational drug! yet in England I have never found anyone who sells it. Though I guess it depends who you know.

Problem with benzos for anxiety is they are addictive and don't solve the problem (infact they make it worse really). They should certainly be used alongside counseling of some kind.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Railgun on May 14, 2013, 04:32 pm


shit man I am sorry to hear that, did you manage to get off them? what benzo were you on? Its very hard in the UK to get any kind of benzo script but I hear in the USA its quite easy.

No, I haven't.  Some of us genuinely have anxiety problems that are complicated by other disorders, so the trade-off is being able to live life while acknowledging that you could lose it if you abruptly stop a peppermint pill (clonezepam).

I can understand that, I didn't leave the house for 2 years a long while ago. I found certain non drug methods worked well for me but was hard work.

All the best

Kind of off topic, but how did you manage 2 years like that?  I've heard of people that have it that bad; mine is mainly social.  Did you find weed helped? In all honesty, non-drug/weed methods are probably the best.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 04:45 pm
Kind of off topic, but how did you manage 2 years like that?  I've heard of people that have it that bad; mine is mainly social.  Did you find weed helped? In all honesty, non-drug/weed methods are probably the best.

Well I would go out as long as I didnt have to get out the car. I went a bit loco to be honest, tried to kill myself. Weed made things worse, at the time I thought it helped but on reflection it make things a lot worse.

The best thing you can do is to learn Mindfulness (a form of meditation). It takes hard work but it really will set you free. Its got a very good evidence base to and a lot of scientific research into it. Its about separating yourself from your thoughts so that you can just watch your thoughts flowing through your mind. You learn to realize its just a thought not a truth and that you are not your thoughts.

Essayist way is to sit somewhere quiet and focus on your breath. Keep turning your mind back to that breath and just notice what thoughts are flowing through your head. Keep practicing this (its not easy) once a day (you can eventually do it when your out and about).

A lot of fear and distress comes from not being aware of whats going through your mind fully and struggling to find a reason why your sad/worried etc. I am sure someone can explain it better than me I am not so good with words. But its the best thing I have ever learnt to do. It comes from Buddhism but I am an atheist so I just take the scientifically valid parts and ignore the rest.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Railgun on May 14, 2013, 05:03 pm
Kind of off topic, but how did you manage 2 years like that?  I've heard of people that have it that bad; mine is mainly social.  Did you find weed helped? In all honesty, non-drug/weed methods are probably the best.

Well I would go out as long as I didnt have to get out the car. I went a bit loco to be honest, tried to kill myself. Weed made things worse, at the time I thought it helped but on reflection it make things a lot worse.

The best thing you can do is to learn Mindfulness (a form of meditation). It takes hard work but it really will set you free. Its got a very good evidence base to and a lot of scientific research into it. Its about separating yourself from your thoughts so that you can just watch your thoughts flowing through your mind. You learn to realize its just a thought not a truth and that you are not your thoughts.

Essayist way is to sit somewhere quiet and focus on your breath. Keep turning your mind back to that breath and just notice what thoughts are flowing through your head. Keep practicing this (its not easy) once a day (you can eventually do it when your out and about).

A lot of fear and distress comes from not being aware of whats going through your mind fully and struggling to find a reason why your sad/worried etc. I am sure someone can explain it better than me I am not so good with words. But its the best thing I have ever learnt to do. It comes from Buddhism but I am an atheist so I just take the scientifically valid parts and ignore the rest.

Not bad with words; I understood it. I have had similar issues as well. I'm glad you're doing better. There's actually a whole type of psychological therapy based upon the notion of mindfulless.  I haven't given it a chance as much in the past because of feelings of resignation and skepticism, but I suppose its well in order. Thankx
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 14, 2013, 05:06 pm
There's actually a whole type of psychological therapy based pon the notion of mindfulless.  I haven't given it a chance as much in the past because of feelings of resignation and skepticism, but I suppose its well in order. Thankx

DBT?
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 14, 2013, 05:29 pm
Kind of off topic, but how did you manage 2 years like that?  I've heard of people that have it that bad; mine is mainly social.  Did you find weed helped? In all honesty, non-drug/weed methods are probably the best.

Well I would go out as long as I didnt have to get out the car. I went a bit loco to be honest, tried to kill myself. Weed made things worse, at the time I thought it helped but on reflection it make things a lot worse.

The best thing you can do is to learn Mindfulness (a form of meditation). It takes hard work but it really will set you free. Its got a very good evidence base to and a lot of scientific research into it. Its about separating yourself from your thoughts so that you can just watch your thoughts flowing through your mind. You learn to realize its just a thought not a truth and that you are not your thoughts.

Essayist way is to sit somewhere quiet and focus on your breath. Keep turning your mind back to that breath and just notice what thoughts are flowing through your head. Keep practicing this (its not easy) once a day (you can eventually do it when your out and about).

A lot of fear and distress comes from not being aware of whats going through your mind fully and struggling to find a reason why your sad/worried etc. I am sure someone can explain it better than me I am not so good with words. But its the best thing I have ever learnt to do. It comes from Buddhism but I am an atheist so I just take the scientifically valid parts and ignore the rest.
+1
I am an occasional anxiety sufferer and do not take xanax habitually. I only take it when I really need it, due to its addiction potential. Anxiety is really an awful thing. A panic attack is hell. A lot of people just think anxiety is some stupid made up thing where people get worried for no reason. But it's not. Anyone who has anxiety knows how bad it is. I only have it quite mildly, so I can't even imagine how awful it would be to have severe anxiety.

I agree. Focusing on breathing is very important and helps relieve anxiety. I also find exercise helps. It allows you to concentrate on using your muscles and energy and clears your head.
I've never tried meditation, but you say it works? I will have to try that - Thanks for the info. My problem is that I am very busy and I enjoy being busy. I get bored easily and always seem to have to be achieving something. I've always been like this - Ever since I was a child. I tend to overthink everything. I am always thinking of potential outcomes. I have outcomes planned in my head.

For example, being a vendor on Silk Road, which I thoroughly enjoy. It makes me feel good because I am supplying a product to other people. A product which they choose to use and is proven to not be that harmful. But at the same time, I think about outcomes. Getting caught. I have thought over every possible outcome and I reiterate it to myself all the time. I am constantly aware that being a vendor on SR is a risk. I cover myself very well, but I still constantly think of possible ways in which I might encounter a problem.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 08:05 am

I've never tried meditation, but you say it works? I will have to try that - Thanks for the info. My problem is that I am very busy and I enjoy being busy. I get bored easily and always seem to have to be achieving something. I've always been like this - Ever since I was a child. I tend to overthink everything. I am always thinking of potential outcomes. I have outcomes planned in my head.


Mindful meditation sounds perfect for you, all you need once you have learnt it is a few minuets a day. You can even do it whilst walking. It changed my life, I was once so depressed they tried to give me ECT!!
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 08:47 am
I try to keep Valium around. It's awesome when you have hundreds of xanax or klonopin, and other benzos on hand but when you start running out and have become accustomed to milligrams of benzo a day and run out, you're going to have a bad time.

Same here I always try to keep 10 Xanax (20mg) and 10 Diaz (10mg).
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on May 15, 2013, 08:51 am
WD from benzos can be super fucking nasty.

Between benzos and opiates, im not sure what has a worse WD. Obviously opiate WD, is more painful, but man, i kicked a 10mg-20mg xanax habit many years ago, and i had 2 seizures. Not to mention the violent mood swings among many other things.

I wish you the best of luck.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: BruceCampbell on May 15, 2013, 08:52 am
I think my selection has me covered for awhile. Probably should see a doctor though and tell them I'm a walking metabolite. Ever have about 10 different benzodiazepines in one collection? And two z drugs and a theobenzodiazepine? And two barbs?

Shiiiiiiiitttttt...

I had all drugs.

I'm a monster.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 09:07 am
I think my selection has me covered for awhile. Probably should see a doctor though and tell them I'm a walking metabolite. Ever have about 10 different benzodiazepines in one collection? And two z drugs and a theobenzodiazepine? And two barbs?

Shiiiiiiiitttttt...

I had all drugs.

I'm a monster.

Whats your favorite benzo?
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: BruceCampbell on May 15, 2013, 09:17 am
Daily use: Clonazepam or xanax

Favorite: Temazepam

Loony bin combo (for coming down off speed/stims)

Lorazepam/Ambien/Seroquel

For when i'm getting drug tested:

etizolam

NEVER AGAIN:
Phenazepam powder

Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 09:36 am
Daily use: Clonazepam or xanax

Favorite: Temazepam

Loony bin combo (for coming down off speed/stims)

Lorazepam/Ambien/Seroquel

For when i'm getting drug tested:

etizolam

NEVER AGAIN:
Phenazepam powder

haha yes I have tried phenazpam powder (dosed by eye too lol!!!). Do you notice much difference between benzos? I think xanax is my favorite love those little triangles.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: BruceCampbell on May 15, 2013, 09:42 am
I can tell them all apart by taste and effect at this point.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 09:52 am
I can tell them all apart by taste and effect at this point.

Wow you are quite the expert. Why do you use them primerally?
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: BruceCampbell on May 15, 2013, 08:02 pm
Because I'm a hedonistic bastard with a bag full of drugs.
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: zipstyle on May 15, 2013, 08:21 pm
Because I'm a hedonistic bastard with a bag full of drugs.

Hell yeah. 8)
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: BruceCampbell on May 15, 2013, 09:29 pm
Because I'm a hedonistic bastard with a bag full of drugs.

Hell yeah. 8)

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

(puts on sunglasses)

 8)
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 10:23 pm
Because I'm a hedonistic bastard with a bag full of drugs.

haha! love it! you cant argue with that!!  ;D
Title: Re: Benzo Withdrawal
Post by: Ben on May 16, 2013, 01:49 am
Daily use: Clonazepam or xanax

Favorite: Temazepam

Temazepam, really?

I guess everyone has its favourites, but temazepam seems to be mostly effective at erasing my memory in combination with a moderate amount of alcohol.

I'm not sure what it is with temazepam specifically, but somehow it causes more amnesia compared to other benzo's like alprazolam, clonazepam or even straight diazepam.

Aside from that i'm all for hedonism and having substances available. I just enjoy taking things like alprazolam over temazepam so i recall what happened the night before, at least vaguely compared to a total blank memory :D