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Title: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: jonsmith on June 20, 2012, 03:42 pm
I'm interested to know how many Aussies are interested cocaine and synthetic cocaine?
 Also, does anyone have an idea of how many active aussie buyers are in here?
 If you can, could you guys let me know whats a fair price for cocaine & synthetic cocaine that you be willing to pay. No poll, just a reply will do.
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: kraziel on July 11, 2012, 04:54 am
Mate depends on the quality ay,
but $300 full G , quality coke
$150 half G, quality
that is start off prices, will sell alot with those prices,
synth, once again depending on quality and feedback - $275 full g 130 half
just in the begining see how it goes, if you wanna pull up the price a lil, then you can once your established.
newais gluck mate!,
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: gotothonlyone1 on July 11, 2012, 08:08 am
Kraziel is on the money there. But the only reason you would go through the hassle of buying anything on here is if the quality is better.
I can pay $300 for stepped on shit from a myriad of different people here and have it within an hour on any given night...
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: Limetless on July 11, 2012, 08:39 am
Can I ask how you are managing to get Synthetic Cocaine? It's highly unlikely you are given the technical skill it takes to get this because Cocaine only has 1 active isomer and if you make it synthetically you have to flip the isomer using stereochem to ensure you have the correct one. If you don't flip the isomer then you will be snorting something that doesn't work.

Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: MRSIN on July 11, 2012, 09:05 am
Can I ask how you are managing to get Synthetic Cocaine? It's highly unlikely you are given the technical skill it takes to get this because Cocaine only has 1 active isomer and if you make it synthetically you have to flip the isomer using stereochem to ensure you have the correct one. If you don't flip the isomer then you will be snorting something that doesn't work.

In Aus, because our drug scene is so shit, and our products are so fingered. Groups have been producing products that they try pass off as coke which people claim as "synthetic cocaine" eg. a mixture of lidocaine,caffeine,speed or an RC+caine. No way is any drug syndicate in Australia sophisticated enough to produce a synthetic version of cocaine. A mixture of XX caine+ caffeine would probably give you a better effect then some of the cut cocaine in AUS.
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: Limetless on July 11, 2012, 09:11 am
Can I ask how you are managing to get Synthetic Cocaine? It's highly unlikely you are given the technical skill it takes to get this because Cocaine only has 1 active isomer and if you make it synthetically you have to flip the isomer using stereochem to ensure you have the correct one. If you don't flip the isomer then you will be snorting something that doesn't work.

In Aus, because our drug scene is so shit, and our products are so fingered. Groups have been producing products that they try pass off as coke which people claim as "synthetic cocaine" eg. a mixture of lidocaine,caffeine,speed or an RC+caine. No way is any drug syndicate in Australia sophisticated enough to produce a synthetic version of cocaine. A mixture of XX caine+ caffeine would probably give you a better effect then some of the cut cocaine in AUS.

Ahhh right I understand now. I was gunna say it didn't seem believable to me that someone had that level of technical ability or had links to someone that did because that level of chemistry is above and beyond most organic chemistry PHDs. If it's just a way to market crap then that makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up?
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: MRSIN on July 11, 2012, 01:49 pm
Yep definitely a marketing tool, trying to explain to someone how hard it would be to create a synthetic cocaine,is just a lost cause. There response is, "but it numbs my face, and gives me a buzz, it must be cocaine!"
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: Limetless on July 11, 2012, 06:32 pm
Yep definitely a marketing tool, trying to explain to someone how hard it would be to create a synthetic cocaine,is just a lost cause. There response is, "but it numbs my face, and gives me a buzz, it must be cocaine!"

And the response to that is always *Rolls eyes* and "Gaawwwd sake". It amazes me how dumb people are when it comes to Bing.
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: costello143 on July 12, 2012, 01:39 am
LOL

Synthetic cocaine is a mythe !!! that dont exist !!!

why ? the cocaine synthisation is ultra high difficult, a lot more than LSD...

theorically you can synthetise cocaine but you must have the best lab with one of the best chimist ...

and you must have a lot lot lot of monney to spend in Research and Devellopement ...

So what 1g of synthetic cocaine is just insane price ... 10x 100x 1000x superior than organic cocaine.....

synthetic cocaine exist only in the spirit of unknowledge people ...

 8)
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: LainOfTheWired1984 on July 12, 2012, 02:11 am
WTF, synthetic cocaine?
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: Limetless on July 12, 2012, 04:40 am
LOL

Synthetic cocaine is a mythe !!! that dont exist !!!

why ? the cocaine synthisation is ultra high difficult, a lot more than LSD...

theorically you can synthetise cocaine but you must have the best lab with one of the best chimist ...

and you must have a lot lot lot of monney to spend in Research and Devellopement ...

So what 1g of synthetic cocaine is just insane price ... 10x 100x 1000x superior than organic cocaine.....

synthetic cocaine exist only in the spirit of unknowledge people ...

 8)

Actually you are quite incorrect on this.
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: costello143 on July 12, 2012, 05:51 am
Can you develop please ?

i'm always open to learn new things

 :)
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: Limetless on July 12, 2012, 06:11 am
Well you said that synthetically produced rip is a myth and doesn't exist. That is incorrect as it is quite possible to produce and is done so for clinical/academic studies. The issue with synthetically manufacturing Cocaine is that Cocaine has only 1 active Isomer and that Isomer only comes naturally from manufacturing from leaves in the traditional method. However, this can be got around by flipping the isomers but this requires a shit-hot stereochemist is a step above normal organic chemistry.

Also if you washed both synthetic and organic Cocaine neither one would be any better than the other. The end result will always be Cocaine, it may just smell a little differently.

Finally synthesizing Cocaine synthetically is not more complex and sensitive than synthesizing LSD, it's relatively simple in comparison to LSD. However like I said above it wont be the active isomer but this doesn't make it any less Cocaine than organic. The difficulty is flipping the Isomer, not the synthesis itself.
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: costello143 on July 12, 2012, 06:34 am
thank you for sharing this knowledge, it's fun! I update mine !

you agree that synthetic cocaine with a flipped active isomer does not exist for the sale and consumption of narcotic?

that is only for academic studies, no ?

Or are there any "Russian" (?) cartel that manufactures and sells the synthetic?

What is your opinion ?
Title: Re: Cocaine & synthetic cocaine in Australia
Post by: Limetless on July 12, 2012, 06:48 am
thank you for sharing this knowledge, it's fun! I update mine !

you agree that synthetic cocaine with a flipped active isomer does not exist for the sale and consumption of narcotic?

that is only for academic studies, no ?

Or are there any "Russian" (?) cartel that manufactures and sells the synthetic?

What is your opinion ?

It's impossible to say because you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between synthetically produced and organic Rip. For all we know they may well produce it however it is doubtful because taking a scientific approach at mass producing it just isn't Organized Crime's M.O. and it doesn't significantly benefit them to do this and trade in their old methods. This may be shortsighted or not, that's a matter of perspective.

The actual equipment/premises/technical ability isn't that hard to get. You can pick up an Indian or Chinese Stereochemist for fuck all and they just wana get paid. The difficulty arrises in obtaining the right precursors/reagents in the quantities you'd need OR, failing that, designing a new synthetic route to avoid these issues but that would cost £££££££££££ in R+D and time.