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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: snipeemfl0 on April 05, 2012, 01:20 am
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
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Methylone fer sure. Quite similar to MDMA and doesn't juice yer brain's seritonin. Have you tried 2C-B?
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Methylone, 2-ce, or even a light dose of LSD would be nice I'd say.
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If you were taking a lot of MDMA, MBDB is supposed to be a non-neurotoxic analogue (look up Nichols). Though it is less euphoric, it is similar indeed. 2C-B is pretty great, but it is possible to be tripping too much to be appropriate for a party setting. LSD is also a very great party drug, but with the psychs I would want to be careful about where exactly I am. For example, if I were to go to a drinking party on 2C-I (similar to 2C-B), I would get seriously upset by the drinking activities at the party. There are lots of other RC stimulants you could look up, but I don't suggest you get into those, either. They're very toxic and very addictive. =/
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Along with the other suggestions so far, I'd add 25i-NBOMe to the list. It felt like a light mix of both MDMA and LSD. I prefer actual MDMA and LSD though, because 25i just felt like a much weaker substitute for the two. The more subtle effects might be exactly what you're looking for. :)
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Methylone for sure, 4-fa is also pretty good but for me it didn't last very long. 2c-b if you want a mild trip with no comedown, it's also quite euphoric I find.
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
ANYHOW, my vote is for a 2C-X or shrooms. Shrooms can be quite social, IMHO, as long as you keep the dose under 3.5 grams. Lots of energy, nice visuals, and ego softening. Try some of Galindoi's caps. ;D Does anyone know how mephedrone is as a party drug? Not that I'd even know where to get it these days.
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
Not a joke - why should it? Is MDMA really so harmful?
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
Not a joke - why should it? Is MDMA really so harmful?
MDMA is extremely nuerotoxic. Lets just say that discussing LSD as a safer alternative than it should sum it up. Google it.
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Weekly MDMA use is something I would never even consider. Value my brain too much.
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Something I've not considered, maybe not doing drugs that often? Haha, its a stretch.
I've been looking to spread it out, making it more memorable.
I guess "varying" it up will also help, while using drugs on other parts of the brain that the last didn't use. Sounds stupid, but basically it will probably help me in the long run so I don't A) get tolerant of any of the drugs or B) Addicted/constant user
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Maybe look into Ethylphenidate, I haven't tried it but I've heard a lot of good things about it and it's pretty cheap. Apparently a very clean stimulant, that doesn't induce anxiety and a horrible comedown.
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I assume copious alcohol is involved so probably not a good idea.
Foxy Methoxy aka 5-MeO-DIPT is popular here, and apparently legal so lot's of it at parties.
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Methylone for sure, 4-fa is also pretty good but for me it didn't last very long. 2c-b if you want a mild trip with no comedown, it's also quite euphoric I find.
4Fa is fun, but suspected to be neurotoxic and damaging to vital organs.
All halogenated amphetamines ( 2-FA, 3-FA, 4-FA ) are bad news for your health.
I vote for 2C-C, 2C-E or LSD as an alternative.
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Methylphenidate and alcohol go pretty good, liver turns it into ethylphenidate in the liver.
It'll keep you partying, keep you drinking, make you outgoing etc.
The only thing is, when everyone else drops and you lay there with your whole body moving back and fourth because your heart is pounding.
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Another vote for 2C-B here. I went to a club last week and railed 15mg before going in and it was incredible! The lights, poi, glovers..everything had trails in such an awesome way. I feel like 2c-b is extremely easy to "act normal" on but at the same time, still be tripping balls, which makes socializing easy!! I gave a friend 30mg and he took it orally, and he was tripping hard the entire night; extreme time dilation and intense hallucinations. While I was dancing and running around the club on 15mg railed, he was holding on to the railing to stay on his feet at 30mg orally. So if you can manage yourself on a low dose, I would definitely recommend 2c-b. I have not tried 2c-i yet, but I definitely want to because I'm told it makes you a lot more energetic.
I would probably vote against LSD, only because it is a significantly longer trip..I don't want to be tripping from 11pm till 11 or so the next morning. I would suggest LSD for a festival though, Ultra was incredible candyflipping :)
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Eeeerrrrm HELLOOOOOO what about Ketamine and Mephedrone? They are both good solo or mixed. Also if you mix MDMA, Ketamine, Mephedrone and Coke into one line you are in for one FUCK of a rush hehehehe.
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Eeeerrrrm HELLOOOOOO what about Ketamine and Mephedrone? They are both good solo or mixed. Also if you mix MDMA, Ketamine, Mephedrone and Coke into one line you are in for one FUCK of a rush hehehehe.
Well if you don't mind kicking the cells out of your brain you could do that. But since most people want to do drugs and stay with their intellectual capacities I recommend you take Mephedrone alone. This drug is a beast in it's own right. However there are no 1 g listings avaible on SR anymore,idk why.
However it's important to chose wethever to get pre-ban or post-ban stuff.
The pre-ban stuff has the better high because it contains also 3-mmc besides 4-mmc because of chosen synth + a non made wash.
The post-ban stuff(the one I had from the Dr) has a much cleaner high,feels much more coke-like for me and sleep is easier.
The pre-ban stuff has also more addictive potential then the post-ban stuff.
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I would actually say for me I would use LSD, or Weed or combined as last time I went to see an MC live, I did weed and that was pretty awesome but I think LSD would be better as for me I get some crazy visuals and with the flashing lights etc, I think it would be awesome, as it is like a nightclub atmosphere.
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Adderall ;)
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2c-b makes me a little bit paranoid. And i find it to be very very mind fogging personally. I'd go with Mephedrone... I'm currently very happy with this drug. Since losing the MDMA magic, Mephedrone has been a good replacement. Very very euphoric, music sounds amazing, and a great confidence booster. Not to mention the strong stimulant properties of this drug
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5 meo dipt
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Eeeerrrrm HELLOOOOOO what about Ketamine and Mephedrone? They are both good solo or mixed. Also if you mix MDMA, Ketamine, Mephedrone and Coke into one line you are in for one FUCK of a rush hehehehe.
Well if you don't mind kicking the cells out of your brain you could do that. But since most people want to do drugs and stay with their intellectual capacities I recommend you take Mephedrone alone. This drug is a beast in it's own right. However there are no 1 g listings avaible on SR anymore,idk why.
Each to there own dude. I just like a bit of adventure sometimes. :)
And I have Mephedrone on my listings in 1g quantities if you want it.
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
Not a joke - why should it? Is MDMA really so harmful?
MDMA is extremely nuerotoxic. Lets just say that discussing LSD as a safer alternative than it should sum it up. Google it.
MDMA is actually not neurotoxic at doses that are psychedelic. I have posted here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11429.msg107580#msg107580) about why the often-cited animal studies are not relevant to human use. With proper diet and supplementation one can take MDMA without significant adverse effects. The same probably goes for most of the 2Cs.
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
Not a joke - why should it? Is MDMA really so harmful?
MDMA is extremely nuerotoxic. Lets just say that discussing LSD as a safer alternative than it should sum it up. Google it.
MDMA is actually not neurotoxic at doses that are psychedelic. I have posted here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11429.msg107580#msg107580) about why the often-cited animal studies are not relevant to human use. With proper diet and supplementation one can take MDMA without significant adverse effects. The same probably goes for most of the 2Cs.
I don't think MDMA is neurotoxic at responsible doses, but taking it once a week definitely cannot be good for anyone's brain, regardless of how healthy one is.
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Taking LSD at a party sounds like a waste of LSD.
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Anyone else?
I got some methylone, 2c-e, shrooms, weed, and 4-mec
I got some MDMA and 2c-i on the way.
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
Not a joke - why should it? Is MDMA really so harmful?
MDMA is extremely nuerotoxic. Lets just say that discussing LSD as a safer alternative than it should sum it up. Google it.
MDMA is actually not neurotoxic at doses that are psychedelic. I have posted here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11429.msg107580#msg107580) about why the often-cited animal studies are not relevant to human use. With proper diet and supplementation one can take MDMA without significant adverse effects. The same probably goes for most of the 2Cs.
I don't think MDMA is neurotoxic at responsible doses, but taking it once a week definitely cannot be good for anyone's brain, regardless of how healthy one is.
The study that claimed MDMA was very neurotoxic turned out to have been fatally flawed, in that they were giving the rats Methamphetamine not MDMA,
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LOL @ mixing up the Meth and MDMA...nice work scientists....
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I'm looking to expand different drug types for parties, mostly house parties/smaller things (<20 people)
To avoid permanent damage and tolerance with using MDMA almost weekly, me and my friends are looking for alternatives
So that bring up the question, what are other good party drugs?
I've been thinking shrooms and methylone, but can't think past there.
Things to not include (Too common or addictive)
-MDMA
-Weed
-Alochol
-Meth
-Coke
-Any opiate
Most of this is personal choice, or just what you've tried, but it's nice to get more than one persons input on things. :)
What do you mean by permanent damage? Is MDMA really hurting your body with weekly use?
I hope this is a fucking joke...
Not a joke - why should it? Is MDMA really so harmful?
MDMA is extremely nuerotoxic. Lets just say that discussing LSD as a safer alternative than it should sum it up. Google it.
MDMA is actually not neurotoxic at doses that are psychedelic. I have posted here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11429.msg107580#msg107580) about why the often-cited animal studies are not relevant to human use. With proper diet and supplementation one can take MDMA without significant adverse effects. The same probably goes for most of the 2Cs.
I don't think MDMA is neurotoxic at responsible doses, but taking it once a week definitely cannot be good for anyone's brain, regardless of how healthy one is.
The study that claimed MDMA was very neurotoxic turned out to have been fatally flawed, in that they were giving the rats Methamphetamine not MDMA,
That was the case with the most famous study, the 'holes in your brain' study; there have since been other studies that have induced neurotoxicity in animals using very high doses of MDMA, my point was that these are not relevant to the doses typically consumed by humans, which are usually not neurotoxic.
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Good choice on the 4-MEC. I like that.
I don't like drugs that mess with your mind, leave you upset and then turn distort reality. I REALLY need to be in control.
I've long given up using LSD, Shrooms, PCP(they called it mesc (!) here), Salvia. Off and on, marijuana. So it's weird that I did 2C-B. I had no problem taking charge of the trip, but I had taken some pill(s?) earlier. I never would have chanced the 2C-B otherwise. And I really enjoyed it. I'd like to take it while camping or at a festival.
I did not get to experience my Methylone when I tried it. I had done the entire gram of 4-MEC, and being on an SSRI, couldn't feel any of the methylone when I started on it. I'm amazed I didn't do myself harm. So people, if you're not feeling it, don't just keep taking more.
I did not enjoy 5Meo-DiPT. Gave me a dirty feeling in my veins as the blood flowed up and down. And no, I don't shoot up. That's just how my body expresses impurities upon my senses. Like this gross warm buzzing that just overtakes me and even Lorazapam nor Klonopin help. It's all emcompassing. Urgh. Makes me shiver just to think about it. I get this same feeling with Pipes and DXM. Weird, huh?
I would think 4-MMC (Mephedrone) would be a lot of fun. I really want to buy some soon. Saw some guy on this in a video... maybe a documentary for BBC? Anyway, looked just like someone's first time rolling. And in a way, I guess it was ;). Looked hella fun. Like something one wouldn't wanna miss out on.
Dextroamphetamine (Dexadrine)
I like these for doing housework. Or for hikes in the woods. Basically for getting shit done.
Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
Crushed and snorted these once about a dozen years ago. Could not pay attention to anything. Ran around in a circle for like 15 minutes looking for a jacket that was piled in the middle of the circle I was running. Frustrating.
MDPV
Too scared to try it. It's just wasting away in a box.
MDAI
Put me to sleep, but was insufflated in poor setting twice in low doses. The color, odor and smell just turn me right off.
3,4 DMMC
Haven't tried it. Wish I had bought this instead of the MDPV. Looks stimulating.
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That was the case with the most famous study, the 'holes in your brain' study; there have since been other studies that have induced neurotoxicity in animals using very high doses of MDMA, my point was that these are not relevant to the doses typically consumed by humans, which are usually not neurotoxic.
What would you say is the non-neurotoxic human dose range for MDMA?
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3.4-dmmc is not so good you need large dosages and the effects are for me pretty dissapointed.
i only tried it one time and have 5g 3,4-dmmc left since this.
but why 3,4-dmmc when it gives better drugs.
the only good thing was that that compound is cheap
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GHB maybe, or 2C-B, I really like 2C-B at lower doses for a party setting. But sadly, using any party drug weekly won't be good for you.
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25i- YEAAAAAAA 8)
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25i- YEAAAAAAA 8)
Really? could you go into a bit more detail into this please? :)
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20112.0
25i trip report. :D
I'm hoping mine gets here tomorrow. :D
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Beat me to it ^ :P I was too lazy to link it when I thought about it.
If duderugs fails me (I'll be ultra sad) but I'll try you next kwik, I've been checking your profile daily for the past fortnight.
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I went with kwik because he's cheaper, and apparently kwik with the shipping. :P
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LSD if you time it right.
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25i- YEAAAAAAA 8)
Really? could you go into a bit more detail into this please? :)
So its visual and goofy- kinda like a very light candy flip. So I've only taken one tab each time- but like you can hold intelligent conversations (or just any conversation) without the kind of mental fuckness acid can sometimes bring. Like sometimes when you're on L and you're trying to communicate with people not tripping or sober it can become a task- no problem here, I was wide awake ready to dance and laughing my ass off. It was a very social mix- enough of a speed up physical feel good without putting you in a 'roll' and just enough of the trip without putting you on a different world. Lights look awesome, slight trail. Don't know how much more I can say about it, but I loved it- read up on some trip reports and then try some®
I just got the sample listing from TheUnadultered (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/dee3a61a93) he doesnt have any up now, but I also have had some from FoxyMeow as well
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25i- YEAAAAAAA 8)
Really? could you go into a bit more detail into this please? :)
So its visual and goofy- kinda like a very light candy flip. So I've only taken one tab each time- but like you can hold intelligent conversations (or just any conversation) without the kind of mental fuckness acid can sometimes bring. Like sometimes when you're on L and you're trying to communicate with people not tripping or sober it can become a task- no problem here, I was wide awake ready to dance and laughing my ass off. It was a very social mix- enough of a speed up physical feel good without putting you in a 'roll' and just enough of the trip without putting you on a different world. Lights look awesome, slight trail. Don't know how much more I can say about it, but I loved it- read up on some trip reports and then try some®
I just got the sample listing from TheUnadultered (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/dee3a61a93) he doesnt have any up now, but I also have had some from FoxyMeow as well
Thanks so much for posting that, I searched the internet for hours to find something like that :)
Would you say it lowers social inhibition at all? Like makes you more "loose".
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My good sir, erowid experience vaults will teach you plenty. :)
Also, another review from a member here http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=14136.msg188608#msg188608 says:..."It felt as if my whole core and heart just opened in that moment, and all I felt was security and pure bliss. According to a friend, this was my heat chakra being opened. Also, pretty sure for a while I experienced almost total ego death."
Not sure if that helps, but I'm excited as fuck.
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25i- YEAAAAAAA 8)
Really? could you go into a bit more detail into this please? :)
So its visual and goofy- kinda like a very light candy flip. So I've only taken one tab each time- but like you can hold intelligent conversations (or just any conversation) without the kind of mental fuckness acid can sometimes bring. Like sometimes when you're on L and you're trying to communicate with people not tripping or sober it can become a task- no problem here, I was wide awake ready to dance and laughing my ass off. It was a very social mix- enough of a speed up physical feel good without putting you in a 'roll' and just enough of the trip without putting you on a different world. Lights look awesome, slight trail. Don't know how much more I can say about it, but I loved it- read up on some trip reports and then try some®
I just got the sample listing from TheUnadultered (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/dee3a61a93) he doesnt have any up now, but I also have had some from FoxyMeow as well
Thanks so much for posting that, I searched the internet for hours to find something like that :)
Would you say it lowers social inhibition at all? Like makes you more "loose".
Yea I would say- I took it the other night (mind you i was drinking a bit also) and before i even realized it i was chatting up this gorgeous chick and had a date with her (although I promised to make her an incredibly hard dish and I haven't cooked in almost a year so that may have been a little too ballsy).
Like Im usually a ballsy cat and wouldn't have any social anxiety at all, but with recent circumstances I've definatly not been myself. And with that I was definatly the old me on each instance, just like super power me cause lights and colors looked more awesome plus i was chatty and didn't give a whole lot of fucks
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25i- YEAAAAAAA 8)
Really? could you go into a bit more detail into this please? :)
So its visual and goofy- kinda like a very light candy flip. So I've only taken one tab each time- but like you can hold intelligent conversations (or just any conversation) without the kind of mental fuckness acid can sometimes bring. Like sometimes when you're on L and you're trying to communicate with people not tripping or sober it can become a task- no problem here, I was wide awake ready to dance and laughing my ass off. It was a very social mix- enough of a speed up physical feel good without putting you in a 'roll' and just enough of the trip without putting you on a different world. Lights look awesome, slight trail. Don't know how much more I can say about it, but I loved it- read up on some trip reports and then try some®
I just got the sample listing from TheUnadultered (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/dee3a61a93) he doesnt have any up now, but I also have had some from FoxyMeow as well
Thanks so much for posting that, I searched the internet for hours to find something like that :)
Would you say it lowers social inhibition at all? Like makes you more "loose".
Yea I would say- I took it the other night (mind you i was drinking a bit also) and before i even realized it i was chatting up this gorgeous chick and had a date with her (although I promised to make her an incredibly hard dish and I haven't cooked in almost a year so that may have been a little too ballsy).
Like Im usually a ballsy cat and wouldn't have any social anxiety at all, but with recent circumstances I've definatly not been myself. And with that I was definatly the old me on each instance, just like super power me cause lights and colors looked more awesome plus i was chatty and didn't give a whole lot of fucks
sounds amazing! :D