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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: loco44 on April 29, 2012, 02:39 am
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Let me start off saying that I had an order from Tony shipped on the 3rd of April and an order from c63amg shipped on the 4th of april. these were all being shipped to eastern USA. I also had a domestic order for some bud that was shipped on the 7th of april. This was my third order from tony, the first two came through fine (the most was 7 business days). This time, the saturday after this last order from tony was shipped, I had a strange call from a canadian number on my cell phone. I didn't answer because i didn't recognize the number. when i looked up the number, i couldn't find much on google other than it was from western canada. when calling the number back, it gave me a fast busy signal like the number was outgoing calls only. never received another call from the number and this was the first time in my life i ever had a call from a canadian number.
So i thought to myself, how did they get my number anyway if it was canadian postal service or police? Then i remember when I moved into my house I had to write the names of everyone living in my residence for the mailman on a little piece of paper. I think it had a spot for your phone number too. Long story short, it is now the 29th of april and I never received the order from Tony, C63AMG and didn't even receive the domestic USA order. No love letters either. the usa order had a DCN, when i looked it up the only thing on it says "Left USPS sort facility" in the city where it was mailed from on april 7th. So my address was blacklisted. the domestic vendor reshipped to a different address and name and it came through fine.
Anyway, my theory is that LE are ordering from various vendors on SR. They then know what the packaging looks like, and know where the packages are originating from. Then, customs takes this info and screens letters from the area the packages are coming from. They know what to look for and seize all letters they can. I believe tony76, noriega, c63amg and others are sending everything out but that customs has smartened up and began seizing most if not all and blacklisting addresses along the way. I may be paranoid or crazy but thats my take. It just doesnt make since that so many people are not receiving as of recently from some of the top vendors. C63amg and noriega now do not even send to the USA because of this.
Please speculate with me and share your experiences as of lately, especially if you have not received or if you have had calls from strange numbers.
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I have only not received form adam420, but he is in the Netherlands, so I assume customs got it due to shipment location. Luckily I didn't order that to my address just in case since it was a high risk purchase.
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ive placed an order after april 7th with tony an everything came fine. iv had multiple transactions with him and the delivery time varied by as much as a week. and about the LE ordering and seeing what the packages look like i dont doubt it could happen but the vendors who are on top of their game vary the shit up to prevent such things.
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@loco44 your worries arent unfounded. LE deffinately does place small orders to see what diffrent packaging looks like. For example when buyers come on the forum and say so and so's packaging is the best ever! LE will deffinately place an order to see this "best" packaging.Then they will give a small seminar to the customs workers so they know about that new method. The only thing that works to our advantage(and greatly) is the sheer volume of mail being handled in the system. Especially when your talking regular first class no tracking, theres billions of packages being delivered a year. Theres no way for them to screen all that mail 8)
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Little worried too, my order from the NL has yet to arrive and I had to put it into dispute. Was only 1g but I still haven't gotten a love letter. Can I assume my address was flagged?
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I get flagging your address if you receive international items that have to go through customs but domestic? Are they going to check every package from every place that goes to your address? It would seem much more likely to have a controlled delivery than just stopping the mail but hey, what do I know :)
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YES, is all I'm going to say, to the thread.
I had noticed, maybe they are overloaded to send love letters?
Lot of work for little gain.
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if there flagging adresses and intercepting all u shit they wouldnt send u a letter would they .they will wait till they have 5 or something and then raid u i didnt order it honestly gov wouldnt wash when they have loads and if u in police state of usa youl get some insane sentence
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HOLY SHIT!!!!! I have an issue with an escrow sale that I suspected to be this.... now guy is trying to get me to reship on an in escrow with dcn# order... he was the ONLY person out of all my lsd sales who's left with a dcn# not to make it..... wanted t make a thread about it but you beat me to it!
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I seem to remember from TFM a thread full of missing cross-boarder orders that no "love letters" were received about a month or two before their bust. I don't remember how many orders it was, but it was a LOT of them. so many, in fact that they suspended cross pond shipping until they got it figured out. well, they got it figured out alright, but not in a way that made customers very happy.
just posting that little bit because it is a conspiracy theory thread.
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also LEO if you did order, lololol joke is on you because it's being shipped from 3 different states and the package profile changes every few days..... would it be bad for me to put what buyer I suspect?
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Wow, i too am going through this, although it happened to me earlier.
Upon finding this place, i opened up an P.O box and placed a few orders with a NL vendor. Those two packages didn't make it, and the vendor agreed to a reship.
I put one of those orders on a new address and the other one still the P.O. box.
The first reship came in 9days, the other one is on day 11 now.... I also have another package from a canadian vendor that never showed, and her reship is also on day 11, when i see many other people in the same country as me receiving within the week.
I think i'm going to start using the address that the only order that came in was on. I just don't want the people at the address to go snooping thru my mail, even tho its fucked up and highly illegal to go in peoples mail, i still wouldn't put it past them to do it. So if i do get shit delivered to this address it would have to be well packaged.
Ahhhh what a dilemma.
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the amount of orders not getting thru does seem to be getting crazy and there all in usa ,i carnt see nor or c63 not sending or being selective scammers and i no u get pissed when they dont reply and shit but if they are sending them they will be losing loads of money so they will be as pissed as u
i wouldnt use the same address after 1 dosnt arrive fuck that and i carnt belive they even re ship to same address that would loook like u were scamming if u think it got snagged but get re ship to same place
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HOLY SHIT!!!!! I have an issue with an escrow sale that I suspected to be this.... now guy is trying to get me to reship on an in escrow with dcn# order... he was the ONLY person out of all my lsd sales who's left with a dcn# not to make it..... wanted t make a thread about it but you beat me to it!
If your talking about your recent 420 LSD sale, I haven't received mine yet and have gotten a dcn# that hasn't been updating. But I have never have asked for a reship...are you talking about your earlier sale?
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They could easily reveal your true IP address with just one node on here, and I'm sure they have control of a lot. All they have to do is look for packages from suspicious locations, to your home address. They know what packages to take if you've connected to a bad node.
if LEO runs tor nodes (which they probably do), even if they can see what ip's are using tor, i don't think connecting to a LEO node would actually let them see everything you're doing on tor
regardless, everything else in this thread does scare me.
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They could easily reveal your true IP address with just one node on here, and I'm sure they have control of a lot. All they have to do is look for packages from suspicious locations, to your home address. They know what packages to take if you've connected to a bad node.
huh? please explain
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They could easily reveal your true IP address with just one node on here, and I'm sure they have control of a lot. All they have to do is look for packages from suspicious locations, to your home address. They know what packages to take if you've connected to a bad node.
huh? please explain
ya.. please explain. even if they had a bad tor node the most they could do is see unencrypted public internet traffic. if you're visiting SR it stays within the TOR network and is encrypted completely. if you goto the WWW thru your tor browser they can see unencrypted data but not anything HTTPS.
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You guys are so parinoid. Any idea seems like fact if it's talked about enough.
Just stop worrying guys and always be safe,cautious, and 3 steps ahead!
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Some quotes related to the the farmer market busting :
"Authorities obtained plaintext copies of the encrypted messages, presumably from Hushmail itself."
"Perhaps mindful of the security downsides of Hushmail--or an email-based fulfillment model--around January 2010, the defendants allegedly moved Adamflowers off of Hushmail and onto the Tor anonymizing network"
"The money was allegedly collected using PayPal, Western Union, I-Golder, and Pecunix, as well as via cash"
They used Paypal hushmail and a non annon network . A Good recipe for disaster
IMHO screening letters is really not the way to go... If i was a LEO I would set up a seller account, then bust 20 buyers to make a point, with big titles in the news.
I do think however that it is time for SR to up it's security. Nothing is fullproof, evolution is the only way forward.
The beauty of SR is having a pure, tested product with feedback on it sold by an experienced vendor who has done 300+ transactions and also has 99% positive feedback. That kind of shit just isn't available at your local drug dealer.
We need to think about ways to avoid LEO and big scamms altogether.