Silk Road forums
Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: chimints630 on November 10, 2012, 09:59 pm
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For the past 24 hours I have not been able to log on just as everyone else. So I started looking around about 24 hours ago they posted on twitter of all places a link to an address viva64.com/en/b/0178 What they are doing in my opinion is beefing up the security of the system. They are using this PVS-Studio to migrate 32 bit windows applications to 64 bit windows applications. It also goes through and routes out all the errors and bugs. Even this past week I spoke to someone from SR who said they were experiencing several issues with bugs. If anyone can shed some more light about PVS Studio feel free to do so. These guys know what the fuck they are doing, if you think about it they are probably the biggest drug dealers in the world now I do not see SR staying down for long.
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Cheers for this bit of detective work. This is a must read thread for folks freaking out.
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Seems like a logical explanation, hopefully you're right.
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What you've said doesn't make sense. I think you've got confused between TOR and SR.
PVS studio is a code analyser for C/C++ programs, like the tor software. Silk Road is written in PHP, a web scripting language. The tor developers working on improving and removing security bugs from the tor software wouldn't cause downtime in silk road. Completely different things.
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If it were the case that they are beefing up security then I believe that'd be a service worth some downtime. What I don't get, though, is why they wouldn't be more explicit with us about this. I know they made a post a few days ago but still...
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only time will tell I guess. The facebook page said "Silk Road has some server problems.Just wait some hours or maeby 1 day and everything will be fixed.Sometimes this happens.Thank you for your understanding." but I'm not sure if that is a legit page or just fan run.
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Why would they need to broadcast that there is going to be downtime? Its not like their a bank and were going to bring our business else where. Especially if they are improving their security that is not something I would want to be broadcasting for everyone to know.
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The exact reason, in my mind, why no one has heard anything/no effort has been made to communicate is because that isn't something you'd want to broadcast. Throw everybody out, and keep them guessing.
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Yep, I've seen many people here bitching about the downtime and acting like SR is responsible for alerting everyone of downtime. Bull Shit. They don't owe anyone anything. You should be happy that they do what they already do. If you don't like it, leave. There are alternatives. If not. Sit tight. Relax and stop starting shit with rumors and other stories. Everything will work itself out. Whatever this is about will only make the market stronger. And by "market" I don't just mean SR.
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Yep, I've seen many people here bitching about the downtime and acting like SR is responsible for alerting everyone of downtime. Bull Shit. They don't owe anyone anything. You should be happy that they do what they already do. If you don't like it, leave. There are alternatives. If not. Sit tight. Relax and stop starting shit with rumors and other stories. Everything will work itself out. Whatever this is about will only make the market stronger. And by "market" I don't just mean SR.
What? Of cause I am happy something like the SR exists, but it's not like they're anything like a charity. They make money with this website and we pay them. So yes, the actually do owe us, their customers, an explanation. Our money is in their hands and much more. And it would be kinda easy to post here "hey guys, the following is going on...". So don't behave like this, specially on your 1st posting.
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What you've said doesn't make sense. I think you've got confused between TOR and SR.
PVS studio is a code analyser for C/C++ programs, like the tor software. Silk Road is written in PHP, a web scripting language. The tor developers working on improving and removing security bugs from the tor software wouldn't cause downtime in silk road. Completely different things.
Unfortunately I agree with you... this is talking about the code for a program such as tor browser, rather than a website contained in tor such as SR (PHP).
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only time will tell I guess. The facebook page said "Silk Road has some server problems.Just wait some hours or maeby 1 day and everything will be fixed.Sometimes this happens.Thank you for your understanding." but I'm not sure if that is a legit page or just fan run.
DO NOT LIKE SR ON FACEBOOK it is no way affiliated with them, could be LE but most likely just sum tryhard nerd.
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I can only hope this dude is right. I've been lurking the forums for years (and even purchased off here multiple times) but this post makes feel a little at ease. But Fuck It. I'M READY TO GO DOWN FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN!!!!!
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"DO NOT LIKE SR ON FACEBOOK it is no way affiliated with them, could be LE but most likely just sum tryhard nerd."
thanks for the heads up. I did think it was counterproductive to make a fb page for something like this and prob just some gassed up customer so I didn't like it with my RL account.
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"DO NOT LIKE SR ON FACEBOOK it is no way affiliated with them, could be LE but most likely just sum tryhard nerd."
thanks for the heads up. I did think it was counterproductive to make a fb page for something like this and prob just some gassed up customer so I didn't like it with my RL account.
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everyone send facebook complaints. its attracting the wrong crowd of people
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What you've said doesn't make sense. I think you've got confused between TOR and SR.
PVS studio is a code analyser for C/C++ programs, like the tor software. Silk Road is written in PHP, a web scripting language. The tor developers working on improving and removing security bugs from the tor software wouldn't cause downtime in silk road. Completely different things.
Even if SR uses php, to deal with high load they may have used other software to compile php scripts into c++ code for faster execution. Facebook has a similar system in place.
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It would be a reasonable assumption to say that right now there is a person or people writing frantic code right now which must then be tested and bugs ironed out... of course I dont know shit, but its what im imagining in my SR-deprived haze... :P
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if you think about it they are probably the biggest drug dealers in the world now I do not see SR staying down for long.
If you think that then you're a fucking tool and have a very blinkered perspective on SR's place and influence in the drug market. SR has around $20Mil run through it per annum and that's your probably the value of a single transaction of your average "Mid Level Blow Importer". Some cartels in Colombia have an annual turnover of over a billion each so get real.
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I certainly hope SR doesn't run on a 32 bit Windows server. Imagine it was on an unpatched IIS5 box? That would explain the downtime LOL
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What? Of cause I am happy something like the SR exists, but it's not like they're anything like a charity. They make money with this website and we pay them. So yes, the actually do owe us, their customers, an explanation. Our money is in their hands and much more. And it would be kinda easy to post here "hey guys, the following is going on...". So don't behave like this, specially on your 1st posting.
sr is not a coop - and we are not the shareholders
dpr runs the site as he sees best - it is his site - i am happy to give him my money for the ability to use his site - he is just a man taking care of his site, and i trust him to put the safety of this site above all else
maybe u forgot that there is a declared war against our ppl, so i have no problem with dpr keeping his mouth shut - and i wish more ppl would do the same
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I certainly hope SR doesn't run on a 32 bit Windows server. Imagine it was on an unpatched IIS5 box? That would explain the downtime LOL
I would assume that SR is somewhat hardened. The amount of BTC that flows through SR is no secret and likely rivals that of some of the smaller exchanges. It has no doubt attracted that attention of a number of blackhats who would like to divert some of those funds.
Despite the announcement earlier, I still believe that SR is under the knife of some hack(ers) and are trying to mitigate damages or have themselves identified a security issue and are trying to correct it.
DPR and Co. would never intentionally halt service at what must be their busiest time of the week, unless it was halted for them. If this truly was an issue related to overcrowding I would imagine they would have left it run as it has been (slow and clunky), announce a maintenance black out and then take the site down for upgrades.
I guess we will all find out Monday
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What? Of cause I am happy something like the SR exists, but it's not like they're anything like a charity. They make money with this website and we pay them. So yes, the actually do owe us, their customers, an explanation. Our money is in their hands and much more. And it would be kinda easy to post here "hey guys, the following is going on...". So don't behave like this, specially on your 1st posting.
sr is not a coop - and we are not the shareholders
dpr runs the site as he sees best - it is his site - i am happy to give him my money for the ability to use his site - he is just a man taking care of his site, and i trust him to put the safety of this site above all else
maybe u forgot that there is a declared war against our ppl, so i have no problem with dpr keeping his mouth shut - and i wish more ppl would do the same
You are wrong. It is in SR's best interest to keep its customer base happy and aware. How many times does SR need to go black before users migrate to other markets, yes they do exist. I can also guarantee you that others will be springing up in i2p and tor alike. SR holds a monopoly on the service at the moment, but all giants must fall and if SR continues to treat it's user base as nothing more then BTC then users will migrate to other platforms.
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Also, people, get off DPR's dick/tit whatever. This guy is not the mesiah. He/She/They are a business savvy risk taker who are cashing in on a great idea. Some of you are worse than apple fanboys.
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wow you're upset - u need a tissue?
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Also, people, get off DPR's dick/tit whatever. This guy is not the mesiah. He/She/They are a business savvy risk taker who are cashing in on a great idea. Some of you are worse than apple fanboys.
was waiting for someone else to come up with that, thanks... i do have a lot of respect for what he has achieved and the skills of both DPR and his team but there are a lot of other talented people out there who would try them just for rep if not for a share of the loot. i just hope they didn't run into someone smarter than them :( its bad enough taking a risk on an unknown vendor, would hate to take risks on unknown sites.
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"DO NOT LIKE SR ON FACEBOOK it is no way affiliated with them, could be LE but most likely just sum tryhard nerd."
thanks for the heads up. I did think it was counterproductive to make a fb page for something like this and prob just some gassed up customer so I didn't like it with my RL account.
There's a sucker born every minute. You have shown a complete lack of judgement. I believe you when you say it was a fake account (That you made with Google Chrome and added a heap of your mates to several months or longer before you stumbled across the FB account for SR) Stupid is as stupid does and you have been a first place contender. Lets just move SR to FB and be done with it.. .
I looked at the account a while ago and noticed that an SR 'vendor' had just scored a kilo of smack and was waiting for your ordes. I ran a fucking mile...
Anyway, I don't care if i hurt your feelings but you have a good weekend..
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Also, people, get off DPR's dick/tit whatever. This guy is not the mesiah. He/She/They are a business savvy risk taker who are cashing in on a great idea. Some of you are worse than apple fanboys.
was waiting for someone else to come up with that, thanks... i do have a lot of respect for what he has achieved and the skills of both DPR and his team but there are a lot of other talented people out there who would try them just for rep if not for a share of the loot. i just hope they didn't run into someone smarter than them :( its bad enough taking a risk on an unknown vendor, would hate to take risks on unknown sites.
+1
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K going to speculate ... I know from personal experience some of the greatest downtime I experienced was when I physically had to move a server. Thinking maybe DPR is moving on up to the other side of the train tracks or perhaps even farther.
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Most likely a new set of servers with better load balancing and separate databases are in order, hopefully along with a redundant system for compromise or failure. If that kind of build-out is taking place, DPR couldn't telegraph it because the activity in the physical world and the Internet routing world could tip off LE or at least give clues or leave traces to be followed.
I think another slowdown occurred and DPR said enough is enough and pulled the plug to move over to a new setup that had been in the works for some time. Now when you undertake such a thing, coordinating the combination of facility, IP, hardware, software and data ain't no small thing. Add to that secrecy's need for minimization of hands on deck, uncharted territories of equipment and controls, and Murphy's Law (things WILL go wrong), and you have a VERY busy DPR who knows that once everything is back up and running, hopefully smoother than before, he will be a hero again and any rumblings of mutiny will be quickly forgotten.
All I have to say to DPR and the mods, admins and other assorted angels is: Go get 'em tigers!
(My post from the other thread)
Modzi
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Thanks for the post! Happy to hear there's some info out there.
All most people do is bitch that they can't earn a few Coins or order a few gs of pot.
- The Consultant
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I agree that it's likely a physical server move. The server appears to be up, but it can't finish HTTP connections. A packet decode would be helpful. Perhaps the server can't be accessed remotely because of compromise or a data center outage, and they are resurrecting SR from a backup elsewhere.
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Also, people, get off DPR's dick/tit whatever. This guy is not the mesiah. He/She/They are a business savvy risk taker who are cashing in on a great idea. Some of you are worse than apple fanboys.
what i've been thinking as well..... all the "SR is a privilage and i am lucky to give them my money" type posts, jesus. wish i had the knowhow to set up an alternate site & send out invites to all the sheep that have posted sentiments along these lines, then rip them off unmerciful so they can have the 'privilage' of giving me their BC!!!!
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wish i had the knowhow to set up an alternate site & send out invites to all the sheep that have posted sentiments along these lines, then rip them off unmerciful so they can have the 'privilage' of giving me their BC!!!!
but ya dont, do ya - just another pissy kid bitching into the wind
theres only a few reasons for the whiners - cant figure out how to make it on their own - or they are LE looking for any excuse to piss ppl off into revealing information - most likely LE
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wish i had the knowhow to set up an alternate site & send out invites to all the sheep that have posted sentiments along these lines, then rip them off unmerciful so they can have the 'privilage' of giving me their BC!!!!
but ya dont, do ya - just another pissy kid bitching into the wind
theres only a few reasons for the whiners - cant figure out how to make it on their own - or they are LE looking for any excuse to piss ppl off into revealing information - most likely LE
nah, i'm a bitchy ol' man pissin down yer throat, chump
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Ah man Ive been shitting myself. At first I wasnt bothered then I started panicking that I would never see it again. Of course I spent ages and ages fretting and stressing before I thought of look round and finding out. I'll catch up now and just keep hoping they are back in no time.
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only time will tell I guess. The facebook page said "Silk Road has some server problems.Just wait some hours or maeby 1 day and everything will be fixed.Sometimes this happens.Thank you for your understanding." but I'm not sure if that is a legit page or just fan run.
DO NOT LIKE SR ON FACEBOOK it is no way affiliated with them, could be LE but most likely just sum tryhard nerd.
Pure lulz...
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lol@SR Facebook