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Title: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: darkmeteor on September 26, 2013, 04:45 pm
So I bought some coke from a vendor on here who had pretty good reviews. First time doing coke, inhaled about 70mg for the first time.
I didn't feel anything at all - the only thing that happened was my throat got SUPER SUPER numb and I could barely feel myself swallow or taste anything that I drank (ie water).
Didn't get any euphoria, no speediness, no feelings of confidence, nothing.

I've been reading that all HQ cocaine you're supposed to be set with 25-50 mg. Maybe this is bunk stuff? Or maybe I just need more? Or maybe I swallowing everything after inhaling it instead of it sticking to the membranes?

Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Yoda on September 26, 2013, 04:53 pm
Do more.

Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: 88fxstc on September 26, 2013, 05:06 pm
Do more.

Who did ya get it from??? I think you can divulge that without coming across as trashing their product, your just a C newbie with Q's. The numbness is a sign that it did do something for ya, so the Q is do you just need more , or, are you just expecting something in your mind that isn't quite in line with what C does to you, or, is it cut up with just a numbing agent? The reason I ask who thew vendor is , is, because I've tried  lot of them and have a decent take on who's got the good goods.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: moneyisthereason on September 26, 2013, 05:37 pm
keep doing it a couple of times
you might expect something different thatswhy it seems to you as if you aint high

shit like that happens to people when they take lsd the first time too
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: isallmememe on September 26, 2013, 05:40 pm
coke is so fucking over rated man. back when i was about 19 it become all the rage in the clubs and i started doing it just coz everyone else was. it never used to do shit to me either but like a dumb twat i spent a few grand before i realized this and gave it up. then i tried crack, omfg, that's the one my son.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: acfood on September 26, 2013, 07:02 pm
The way you describe the numbness sounds too much. Coke only causes a mild numbness. It's possible that it was cut with dental anesthetic.

Get an EZ Test cocaine cut testing kit. They're worth every penny, and you only use about 10mg of powder to test it.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: nassy on September 26, 2013, 07:33 pm
shoot it up 8)
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: darkmeteor on September 26, 2013, 07:37 pm
Thanks for the replies guys

Yoda - I just may have to

88fxstc - I got it from MariosGramShoppe. I wanted to wait and get it from Rails or Studio54 because I've read their stuff is the best, but I needed it for this weekend so it was the only one I could find with decent reviews I could get in short time.

moneyisthereason - Yeah I'm going to again this weekend, i won't write it off just yet.

isallmememe - so far, MDMA >>>>> coke

acfood - that's what I was thinking too - it felt way too much like lidocaine or some other numbing agent. I meant i couldn't feel ANYTHING in my throat...i was kinda freaking out for a minute. My friend has a kit, I'm gonna borrow theirs this weekend.

nassy - I draw the line at snorting. No IVs for me!
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: cloneuk on September 26, 2013, 08:10 pm
It does that for some people, especially if you have adhd. It makes me feel more straight than I was before I took it, usually ruins a good night out. I've had coke-head mates tell me the stuff we're taking is the best they ever had but it did nothing for me. Makes me jealous when I see how high they are. Much prefer speed myself anyway but it's less socially acceptable these days. The numbness is a good sign surely?
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: darkmeteor on September 27, 2013, 01:55 am
I'm gonna try having a drink or two next time
And the numbing could be from an anesthetic, not necessarily cocaine.

Any other advice?
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: MrMates on September 27, 2013, 10:38 am
I like to do coke once in a while but the good stuff is $150 a gram.

I prefer to do amphet if you can find a good dealer the best dealer here imo has the amphet salt for about $130 for five grams.

Only thing you have to run customs if you are outside Netherlands 100mg last you a day if you have no tolerance too.

Much more bang for your buck.

Unless you are Australian then a lot won't ship it there.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Sugarleaf on September 27, 2013, 01:16 pm
Much prefer speed myself anyway but it's less socially acceptable these days.

This gave me a bit of a giggle :) If we were all concerned about what is socially acceptable, the road would be a distant dream! :) Viva la revolution!

Peace,

Sugarleaf
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Mister Mortimer on September 27, 2013, 01:32 pm
good coke is a subtle buzz, you don't get a rush or anything, it's only when you catch yourself talking non stop about anything and everything you realise how good the gear is. as soon as you catch yourself doing this your self confidence goes through the roof

and good coke is not very numbing at all. it is a bit, but that line from the film Blow 'i can't feel my face' is total bollocks
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: luvyssup2 on September 27, 2013, 01:41 pm
With that amount you should have felt your hair ( if you have any ) standing on end and talking non-stop if you were with people....
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: cloneuk on September 27, 2013, 01:49 pm

And the numbing could be from an anesthetic, not necessarily cocaine.


Yeah novocaine is good for stepping on coke. That's a considerate dealer you have there, cares about how you feel.

Much prefer speed myself anyway but it's less socially acceptable these days.

This gave me a bit of a giggle :) If we were all concerned about what is socially acceptable, the road would be a distant dream! :) Viva la revolution!

Peace,

Sugarleaf

lol i kind of meant in real life but the lines are blurring as I type.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: aghostlyfart on September 27, 2013, 02:02 pm
I think some people like myself just don't have the chemistry to feel it. I have an insane tolerance to stimulants but none what so ever to psychedelics. It's just who you are you know? I've tried so many peoples Coca cola that was the "shit" and have always been sorely dissapointed no matter who ive tried it from and how much ive done nothing more than a numb throat, and a nasty drip. I've split a up a whole 40 into two lines before *snoooooort* NADA so maybe youre just someone like me, who doesn't get to enjoy booga shuga :/
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: MrMates on September 27, 2013, 02:27 pm
You got a great testing kit you carry about it is your hooter.

First time I ever did good coke it went up my nose like air and the buzz from it was nothing like speed at one stage I actually felt floaty like I was going to rise to the ceiling and never sweated at all on it and no heart race at all and next day like I had not taking anything did not even need a benzo to sleep or one for making me feel better next day.

Did some mid grade coke on here started sweating like a pig my heart started racing which did calm down , strange buzz to it after a while I had enough took 3 x 10mg valium took the funny head buzz away but could still not sleep and was up 12 hours and felt like shit .I think it was a mixture of coke , speed , caffeine and dunno what else still got half of it left 6 weeks later as I never liked it much.

If I don't flush it I'd only do one line at a day of it for a morning kickstart.
But I decided to buy from the top sellers from that and pay the extra coin.

Oh yeah I have learnt how to wash now though with acetone  since then so might do that with it.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: luvyssup2 on September 27, 2013, 05:52 pm
good coke is a subtle buzz, you don't get a rush or anything, it's only when you catch yourself talking non stop about anything and everything you realise how good the gear is. as soon as you catch yourself doing this your self confidence goes through the roof

and good coke is not very numbing at all. it is a bit, but that line from the film Blow 'i can't feel my face' is total bollocks

Exactly !! The only thing that is real numbing is the "smell"..you never forget it !!
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 28, 2013, 01:36 am
I'm gonna try having a drink or two next time
Although I do the same myself, please be aware that cocaethylene is believed to put far more strain on the heart than cocaine alone.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on September 28, 2013, 01:43 am
Ummm, you should feel coke's effects even if it's just one line. Did it burn? I respectfully disagree with those that say it doesn't numb or that it's a mild buzz. But then again, I can put away a gram in a less than 2-3 hours. There's nothing mild about coke. It's way more intense than amphetamine, but it doesn't last anywhere near as long (and it's not anywhere near as good as amps for sex) ;)

It does have a very distinctive smell and lovely drips though. That I agree with  ;D
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: yabbadabbadoo on September 28, 2013, 06:40 am
I wanted to comment cause I also received some product from Mario within the last two maybe three weeks.  It was pretty decent stuff in my opinion, better than most of the stuff I find on the street.  It's my go to when it comes to the harder drugs but I space out my purchases for multiple reasons.  I like it too much and cant let it sit around for too long.  I shared some of this batch with a good friend who has similar experience and he was also quite happy with Mario's product.

I'd say give it another shot, but spread a couple doses out over an hour time period or so till you get the feel for it.  Lines about the size of a matchstick should do you pretty good but expect your tolerance to build quickly through the night/days.  At certain points its best to just put it away and take a break otherwise it almost seems like a waste.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on September 28, 2013, 01:32 pm

And the numbing could be from an anesthetic, not necessarily cocaine.


Yeah novocaine is good for stepping on coke. That's a considerate dealer you have there, cares about how you feel.

Much prefer speed myself anyway but it's less socially acceptable these days.


That's flat out untrue. Coke may sometimes be cut with novacaine, but coke itself is a local anesthetic. It's still used as a local anesthetic. That's why it's a Schedule 2 drug i the US; it has a medical use and it's still in use (very, very, rarely). The reason it's cut with novacaine is because they both have a strong numbing effect.

Yeah that's right, the US government feels medical grade marijuana is more dangerous than medical grade cocaine. Good cocaine is extremely numbing; coke that doesn't numb is heavily stepped on.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: MrMates on September 28, 2013, 03:03 pm
2 Matchsticks from a box size line first snort should do it on good stuff.

Unless you are a mad coke head then half a gram lines.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Mister Mortimer on September 30, 2013, 08:20 am
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1571308#msg1571308
Good cocaine is extremely numbing; coke that doesn't numb is heavily stepped on.

i'm sorry but this is what a lot of amateurs think, which is why a lot of arseholes can sell crap gear, they mix it with another 'caine so you can't feel anything. Coke just doesn't do that.

have you ever washed coke you've bought off the street with acetone? have you noticed once it's washed it doesn't numb as much as it did before the wash? i'm not saying it doesn't numb, because it does. what i'm saying is if your coke numbs you 'extremely' i'm afraid you've got shit gear. the reason coke is used 'more and more rarely' as an anesthetic is because it's not very efficient at numbing you compared to other 'caines.

and the 'rush' you get when you do a line - that ain't coke doing that mate. i guarantee it. i know you're gonna insist you're right, so once you're up to 50 posts why don't you put an open question in the coke vendors thread. a fair few in that thread know what they're talking about, they'll tell you what proper coke is supposed to be like.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Walt Disney on September 30, 2013, 08:36 am
Probably cut to the max bad luck!, look for the highest ranking sellers and youll b bound 2 get A+ Quality!
WD
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: fiendish on September 30, 2013, 10:30 am
Experienced the same thing the first time I tried it, just had some numbness in in back of my throat/nasal passage from snorting. Didn't touch the stuff for about six months thinking it was a waste of time. When I had the next line six months later got totally blasted. For me, it's almost like the body has to get acclimatised to some drugs before experiencing the full effects.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: emptybanana1 on September 30, 2013, 10:51 am
Moar..
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: papasteeze on September 30, 2013, 01:46 pm
Ive seen what I have know to be excellent coke not do much for individuals.. Do opiates make you really wired and talkative, nervous and somewhat nauseous like drinking too much coffee, if so you are one of those in a very slim minority  that are wired a bit different.  You are also likely to be bi-polar.  If by chance I hit the nail on the head.  don't do coke. I ve heard a correlation between the reverse wiring and coke to heart stoppage from small amounts. Here again I don't want to be the alarmist. just saying there is that slim to none possibility.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: FirePharmacy on September 30, 2013, 02:38 pm
Years ago, the first time I ever tried coke, I remember that it had very little effect on me as well.   The second time, and every single time after that, I felt it way stronger!  Be careful because the stuff feels so good it's hard to stop sometimes!
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on September 30, 2013, 04:29 pm
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1571308#msg1571308
Good cocaine is extremely numbing; coke that doesn't numb is heavily stepped on.

i'm sorry but this is what a lot of amateurs think, which is why a lot of arseholes can sell crap gear, they mix it with another 'caine so you can't feel anything. Coke just doesn't do that.

have you ever washed coke you've bought off the street with acetone? have you noticed once it's washed it doesn't numb as much as it did before the wash? i'm not saying it doesn't numb, because it does. what i'm saying is if your coke numbs you 'extremely' i'm afraid you've got shit gear. the reason coke is used 'more and more rarely' as an anesthetic is because it's not very efficient at numbing you compared to other 'caines.

and the 'rush' you get when you do a line - that ain't coke doing that mate. i guarantee it. i know you're gonna insist you're right, so once you're up to 50 posts why don't you put an open question in the coke vendors thread. a fair few in that thread know what they're talking about, they'll tell you what proper coke is supposed to be like.

Look, I had an 8 ball a day habit for 2 years. I've got plenty of experience with good and not-so-good coke. I don't need to ask.  And if I were to ask anyone, it sure as fuck wouldn't be a dealer.

From Wikipedia
"Cocaine:
Pregnancy cat.    C
Legal status    Controlled (S8) (AU) Schedule I (CA) A (UK) Schedule II (US) Narcotic Schedules I and III (UN)
Dependence liability    High
Routes    Topical, Oral, Insufflation, IV, PO
It is a stimulant, an appetite suppressant, and a topical anesthetic. Biologically, cocaine acts as a serotonin–norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitor, also known as a triple reuptake inhibitor (TRI). It is addictive because of its effect on the mesolimbic reward pathway.

Cocaine is a powerful nervous system stimulant. Its effects can last from 15–30 minutes to an hour, depending on dosage and the route of administration.

Cocaine increases alertness, feelings of well-being and euphoria, energy and motor activity, feelings of competence and sexuality. Athletic performance may be enhanced in sports where sustained attention and endurance is required. Anxiety, paranoia and restlessness can also occur, especially during the comedown. With excessive dosage, tremors, convulsions and increased body temperature are observed"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine (clearnet)

From NIH:
"Cocaine speeds up your whole body. You may feel full of energy, happy, and excited"
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/cocaine.html (clearnet)

Form Erowid:
"PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS:
Varies with dose and the tolerance of the user. Increases alertness, wakefulness, elevates the mood, mild to high degree of euphoria, increases athletic performance, decreases fatigue, clearer thinking, increases concentration, increases energy, increased irritability, insomnia, restlessness. With high doses may exhibit a pattern of psychosis with confused and disorganized behavior, irritability, fear, paranoia, hallucinations, may become extremely antisocial and aggressive."
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/cocaine_effects.shtml (clearnet)

More from Erowid:
"Cocaine is a naturally derived CNS (central nervous system) stimulant extracted and refined from the Coca plant grown primarily in the Andean region of South America. Cocaine is typically a white-ish powder with a bitter, numbing taste. It is most often insufflated (snorted), though it can also be injected and used orally.

Law
Cocaine is illegal to possess and sell in the United States (schedule II) and in most other countries. It became a regulated substance in 1914, as one of the first substances to be made illegal in the U.S."
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/cocaine_basics.shtml (clearnet)

So not only am I'm wrong, but all of these sources are wrong too? I've been using cocaine off and on for 10 years.

Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 30, 2013, 09:45 pm
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1571308#msg1571308
Good cocaine is extremely numbing; coke that doesn't numb is heavily stepped on.

have you ever washed coke you've bought off the street with acetone? have you noticed once it's washed it doesn't numb as much as it did before the wash? i'm not saying it doesn't numb, because it does. what i'm saying is if your coke numbs you 'extremely' i'm afraid you've got shit gear. the reason coke is used 'more and more rarely' as an anesthetic is because it's not very efficient at numbing you compared to other 'caines.
and the 'rush' you get when you do a line - that ain't coke doing that mate. i guarantee it. i know you're gonna insist you're right, so once you're up to 50 posts why don't you put an open question in the coke vendors thread. a fair few in that thread know what they're talking about, they'll tell you what proper coke is supposed to be like.
Look, I had an 8 ball a day habit for 2 years. I've got plenty of experience with good and not-so-good coke. I don't need to ask.  And if I were to ask anyone, it sure as fuck wouldn't be a dealer.
From Wikipedia

From NIH:

Form Erowid:

More from Erowid:

Law

So not only am I'm wrong, but all of these sources are wrong too? I've been using cocaine off and on for 10 years.
Ummm... Did you reply to the wrong post? Only one of those quotes references numbing (in taste, not as an extreme) and none of them mentions a rush.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: nackkered79 on October 01, 2013, 01:21 am
Nah.. Coke has never done a thing for me...
Of course you always get the same old adage "You've never done good coke mate!..."  :D

I may not have been snorting Pure Bolivian Flake, but just one look at my fellow snortee's eye's, "Twinkle, Twinkle.." told me I just don't 'Dig' Coke like some people... The same goes for Miow (mephedrone)... >:(

But I simply LURVE Amphetamines...
Whooo-EEE...
I LUV THAT SHIT!!!  :)
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: 142753869 on October 01, 2013, 01:38 am
I'd rather snort addy than do coke
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on October 01, 2013, 02:08 am
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1571308#msg1571308
Quote
Ummm... Did you reply to the wrong post? Only one of those quotes references numbing (in taste, not as an extreme) and none of them mentions a rush.

I tend to be slightly hyperbolic; perhaps extreme is too strong of a word. Let's say powerful enough for some surgical procedures.

There were a couple of reasons that I chose those excerpts, but as for the rush I was pointing to the following lines (no pun intended):
"It is a stimulant ... cocaine acts as a serotonin–norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitor, also known as a triple reuptake inhibitor (TRI) ... effect on the mesolimbic reward pathway."
"alertness, feelings of well-being and euphoria, energy and motor activity"
"Cocaine speeds up your whole body. You may feel full of energy, happy, and excited"
"Increases alertness, wakefulness, elevates the mood, mild to high degree of euphoria, increases athletic performance, decreases fatigue,"

And as for the numbness:
"a topical anesthetic"
"Cocaine is typically a white-ish powder with a bitter, numbing taste."
"Legal status    Schedule II (US)"
"United States (schedule II)"

I know you're British, so I'm not sure if you're familiar with the US code for drug classification, so here's a bit on schedule two drugs:
"Schedule II substances are those that have the following findings:
        The drug or other substances have a high potential for abuse
        The drug or other substances have currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, or currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions"

That "medical use" is as a topical anesthetic. That contrasts with marijuana, LSD, heroin, PCP, psilocybin, mescalin, and other street drugs which are Schedule One. Schedule 1:
"Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
        The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
        The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
        There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act (clearnet)

Amphetamine/methamphetamine are the only other street drugs other than cocaine that are Schedule 2 in the US.



Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: rosewoodangela on October 01, 2013, 02:17 am
Hmmm....must not be very good. You should be honest w/ your review, and help the community.

If it's good coke, then you would know. They should have at least given you the decency of cutting it with amphetamines or something, rather than baking soda.

Do a test - put some on your gums, and if in 5-10 mins it's completely numb, then it's good stuff (at least has a decent percentage of coke). If it doesn't, then I'm quite sorry.

Also, different drugs affect people differently.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: ianmcshane on October 01, 2013, 02:32 am
you might just not really like coke

some people don't like mdma, some don't like weed.

coke's overrated in my opinion. either try more, or just stick with better drugs
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on October 01, 2013, 02:37 am
I'd rather snort addy than do coke

IF I had the choice between the two, I'd agree, but I'd rather  just swallow the fucking addy
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: darkmeteor on October 01, 2013, 03:08 am
UPDATE from OP

so I had 2/3 days to experiment again with the same coke this weekend. I completely fucked up when I tried it last week. I tried it again, and literally within 10 seconds i got hit with a wave of pure awesomeness - I literally looked up at my friends after inhaling it and said "Wow I fucking feel amazing riht now." Just a rush to my head, i felt like my brain was numb, and I had a lot of energy for about 1 hour or so.

What I did wrong last week was I didn't completely crush the hard balls of coke into fine powder, so I ended up inhaling the balls and then directly swallowing them bc they were too big to go up my nose, hence the full numbing of the throat. My throat barely got numb when I did it this past weekend. I also drank 1 beer about an hour before doing the coke, so I'm sure that played a part into it. I did about 80mg one day, the day I felt amazing, and the next day my friends all wantedt to do it so I probably did a total of 40-50mg, didn't get hit with a sudden sense of awesomeness but still felt like i had more energy than usual.

it's good stuff, quick on quick off, but I think i still prefer MDMA. I can see myself using it once in a while for select outings.

thanks for the help guys, hope this helps some of you other guys other there!
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Mister Mortimer on October 01, 2013, 07:44 am
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1571308#msg1571308
Good cocaine is extremely numbing; coke that doesn't numb is heavily stepped on.

have you ever washed coke you've bought off the street with acetone? have you noticed once it's washed it doesn't numb as much as it did before the wash? i'm not saying it doesn't numb, because it does. what i'm saying is if your coke numbs you 'extremely' i'm afraid you've got shit gear. the reason coke is used 'more and more rarely' as an anesthetic is because it's not very efficient at numbing you compared to other 'caines.
and the 'rush' you get when you do a line - that ain't coke doing that mate. i guarantee it. i know you're gonna insist you're right, so once you're up to 50 posts why don't you put an open question in the coke vendors thread. a fair few in that thread know what they're talking about, they'll tell you what proper coke is supposed to be like.
Look, I had an 8 ball a day habit for 2 years. I've got plenty of experience with good and not-so-good coke. I don't need to ask.  And if I were to ask anyone, it sure as fuck wouldn't be a dealer.
From Wikipedia

From NIH:

Form Erowid:

More from Erowid:

Law

So not only am I'm wrong, but all of these sources are wrong too? I've been using cocaine off and on for 10 years.
Ummm... Did you reply to the wrong post? Only one of those quotes references numbing (in taste, not as an extreme) and none of them mentions a rush.

yeah thanks Cornelius, i was gonna point this out but you beat me to it.

those quotes pretty much reinforce what i was saying, so you neg me for what? being right?

calm down mate, no need to get so sensitive. i never said ask a dealer. the coke vendors thread is full of users discussing vendors, that's the whole point of the thread ??? well done with the habit by the way, glad it only took you 2 years to get out of it.

and this:

Look, I had an 8 ball a day habit for 2 years. I've got plenty of experience with good and not-so-good coke. I don't need to ask.

is just completely arrogant, the sort of adolescent attitude that gives you a shortcut to the grave. 'you can't teach me anything'. bollocks. For your information my habit makes yours look like you're trying to give up sugar in your coffee, and for the 1st 3 years of my habit i thought coke was supposed to completely numb you and give you a rush. then i got hold of the real McCoy, and now i won't entertain street shite unless i've put it through a couple of washes myself, which usually turns my henrys into about a gram if i'm lucky. and i'm STILL asking questions and learning about it.

i'm not arguing about it, i was trying to help you not get robbed or develop any health problems. if you're happy snorting something that makes your whole head go numb and for your heart try to beat its way out of your ribcage then you just carry on enjoying your tweaking powder.

one thing about your post did confuse me though:

Quote
That "medical use" is as a topical anesthetic. <snip>heroin,<snip>which are Schedule One. Schedule 1:
"Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
    <SNIP>
        The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

so the hospitals over there don't use diamorphine on patients that are in extreme pain?? is that right?
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on October 01, 2013, 04:09 pm
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1571308#msg1571308
Good cocaine is extremely numbing; coke that doesn't numb is heavily stepped on.

have you ever washed coke you've bought off the street with acetone? have you noticed once it's washed it doesn't numb as much as it did before the wash? i'm not saying it doesn't numb, because it does. what i'm saying is if your coke numbs you 'extremely' i'm afraid you've got shit gear. the reason coke is used 'more and more rarely' as an anesthetic is because it's not very efficient at numbing you compared to other 'caines.
and the 'rush' you get when you do a line - that ain't coke doing that mate. i guarantee it. i know you're gonna insist you're right, so once you're up to 50 posts why don't you put an open question in the coke vendors thread. a fair few in that thread know what they're talking about, they'll tell you what proper coke is supposed to be like.
Look, I had an 8 ball a day habit for 2 years. I've got plenty of experience with good and not-so-good coke. I don't need to ask.  And if I were to ask anyone, it sure as fuck wouldn't be a dealer.
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So not only am I'm wrong, but all of these sources are wrong too? I've been using cocaine off and on for 10 years.
Ummm... Did you reply to the wrong post? Only one of those quotes references numbing (in taste, not as an extreme) and none of them mentions a rush.

yeah thanks Cornelius, i was gonna point this out but you beat me to it.

those quotes pretty much reinforce what i was saying, so you neg me for what? being right?

calm down mate, no need to get so sensitive. i never said ask a dealer. the coke vendors thread is full of users discussing vendors, that's the whole point of the thread ??? well done with the habit by the way, glad it only took you 2 years to get out of it.

and this:

Look, I had an 8 ball a day habit for 2 years. I've got plenty of experience with good and not-so-good coke. I don't need to ask.

is just completely arrogant, the sort of adolescent attitude that gives you a shortcut to the grave. 'you can't teach me anything'. bollocks. For your information my habit makes yours look like you're trying to give up sugar in your coffee, and for the 1st 3 years of my habit i thought coke was supposed to completely numb you and give you a rush. then i got hold of the real McCoy, and now i won't entertain street shite unless i've put it through a couple of washes myself, which usually turns my henrys into about a gram if i'm lucky. and i'm STILL asking questions and learning about it.

i'm not arguing about it, i was trying to help you not get robbed or develop any health problems. if you're happy snorting something that makes your whole head go numb and for your heart try to beat its way out of your ribcage then you just carry on enjoying your tweaking powder.

one thing about your post did confuse me though:

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That "medical use" is as a topical anesthetic. <snip>heroin,<snip>which are Schedule One. Schedule 1:
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        The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

so the hospitals over there don't use diamorphine on patients that are in extreme pain?? is that right?
First, no they do not use heroin for pain. That is done in the UK but not the US. Here it would be methadone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl, etc. for pain.

Second, I don't think that you're right. I may have overstated the level of numbness, but cocaine is a topical anesthetic and is used for local anesthesia for some non-invasive surgical procedures in the US (rarely). Two of those sources indicate numbness and all three indicate euphoria and elevated mood/stimulation, which is what I meant when I said rush. To me, a rush is euphoria.

I'm not arrogant about my former use of cocaine; I'm not interested in learning anything about cocaine. I don't ever plan on using cocaine again now that I have moved on to Adderall.

I did not ever say anything about my whole head going numb. I was specifically referring to drips and the numbing effect they have on the throat and the "numbing taste" (mentioned in one of the sources) that many people enjoy (you know, like taking your finger and picking up the residual powder left over from your line and rubbing on your gums? You've never seen someone take a lick after their line?)

I also didn't say anything about my heart beating out of my rib cage. Once my friend and I split a 16th in all of about 10-15 minutes. In that case, my heart was racing, but not if I were to take it slow. You can't deny that if you snorted an 8 ball in an hour that your heart would race. Cocaine's effects don't last very long, and I was referring to snorting a large quantity in a short period of time. With that said, I feel what I consider to be a rush from the very first line.

And finally, no I did not neg you for disagreeing with me. That's ridiculous; you're free to disagree with me. I wouldn't neg you for that. And who cares anyway?


This isn't a pissing match over who had the biggest habit btw.

You're incorrectly assuming that I'm upset with you. I have nothing against you and you are entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: nowthen on October 01, 2013, 04:34 pm
I'm no cocain expert but mouth numbness means pretty much nothing as far as testing your product.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Defiler89 on October 01, 2013, 04:47 pm
First time I did Blow me and my Girlfriend had a gram of fire.... speeded the fuck out, best sex ever  ;D
i hope the best for venture to get some good good though!
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: IForgotMyFuckingPassword on October 01, 2013, 06:04 pm
I'm no cocain expert but mouth numbness means pretty much nothing as far as testing your product.

I wasn't referring to "mouth numbness" as a test for purity. That's absurb. You wouldn't be able to tell if it was novocaine, lidocaine, cocaine, or any other drug in that family. That's not at all what I meant.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Cornelius23 on October 02, 2013, 02:02 am
I just found what seems a perhaps relevant comment DoctorX made in his advice thread last month:
“Rush” is uncommon in first experiences with some drugs. Effects of drugs are explained mainly by neuropharmacology but there are also psychological and social factors. Learning processes are important to recognize and process effects of drugs, so first experiences are not necessarily the best. Regular use is more associated with “rush” than occasional experiences. But, for example, administration of intranasal placebo (local anesthesic) to cocaine addicts can produce physical effects (tachycardia, raise of blood pressure) similar to cocaine. So even placebo effect can explain ( a part) of some drug effects.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Mister Mortimer on October 02, 2013, 07:46 am
Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
First, no they do not use heroin for pain. That is done in the UK but not the US. Here it would be methadone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl, etc. for pain.
fair dooz. you live and learn

Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
Second, I don't think that you're right. I may have overstated the level of numbness, but cocaine is a topical anesthetic and is used for local anesthesia for some non-invasive surgical procedures in the US (rarely). Two of those sources indicate numbness and all three indicate euphoria and elevated mood/stimulation, which is what I meant when I said rush. To me, a rush is euphoria.
i know it's used in hospitals still, it was used on a friend of mine for getting a tube up his nose. wasn't used as an anesthetic in this case though. and a rush to me is when you can feel it coursing through your body, feels like you're, well, rushing. i've never experienced that with coke. speed does that to me, but not coke


Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
I'm not arrogant about my former use of cocaine; I'm not interested in learning anything about cocaine. I don't ever plan on using cocaine again now that I have moved on to Adderall.
it was the 'i don't need to ask' comment that sounded arrogant, now you've explained that i retract that statement and apologise. different strokes for different folks. i can't stand speed

Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
I did not ever say anything about my whole head going numb. I was specifically referring to drips and the numbing effect they have on the throat and the "numbing taste" (mentioned in one of the sources) that many people enjoy (you know, like taking your finger and picking up the residual powder left over from your line and rubbing on your gums? You've never seen someone take a lick after their line?)
yeah, i do agree that it numbs, but not the extent you were suggesting in your first post with 'extreme'

Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
I also didn't say anything about my heart beating out of my rib cage. Once my friend and I split a 16th in all of about 10-15 minutes. In that case, my heart was racing, but not if I were to take it slow. You can't deny that if you snorted an 8 ball in an hour that your heart would race. Cocaine's effects don't last very long, and I was referring to snorting a large quantity in a short period of time. With that said, I feel what I consider to be a rush from the very first line.
this is going back to the differences in opinion on what a 'rush' is. the only time i get a pounding heart on good coke is if i smoke it in a joint. my tolerance went up pretty quickly(as everyones does), but as long as it was good i could do line after line after line. if there's caffeine, amph, or any other number of cuts in it yes my heart would beat like a hummingbirds wings, but good clean coke never did it to me

Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
And finally, no I did not neg you for disagreeing with me. That's ridiculous; you're free to disagree with me. I wouldn't neg you for that. And who cares anyway?

Quote from: IForgotMyFuckingPassword link=topic=215012.msg1578669#msg1578669
You're incorrectly assuming that I'm upset with you. I have nothing against you and you are entitled to your opinion.
your reply to my post sounded a bit agitated, and the neg coincided with that. obviously someone else doesn't like what i had to say. apologies for the assumption

Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Cornelius23 on October 02, 2013, 07:53 am
Perhaps 'rush', at least as we mean it in Britain (and in Spain, judging from DoctorX's comment), could be described as the exhilarating feeling of speeding toward the destination rather than what we feel once we've got there.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Mister Mortimer on October 02, 2013, 08:03 am
yeah quite possibly. i get a rush off speedy E's. do you know what i mean about feeling it coursing through your body though? it's like your whole body just goes a bit turbo
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Cornelius23 on October 02, 2013, 08:06 am
yeah quite possibly. i get a rush off speedy E's. do you know what i mean about feeling it coursing through your body though? it's like your whole body just goes a bit turbo

Oh, yes :D
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: eazy on October 02, 2013, 10:19 am
do more..
and more..
and more..
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: makeawish on October 02, 2013, 10:21 am
cocaine is a stupid drug
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Mister Mortimer on October 02, 2013, 11:30 am
cocaine is a stupid drug

can you give us an example of a clever one?
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: Cornelius23 on October 03, 2013, 11:49 pm
cocaine is a stupid drug

It is. You throw a stick for it and it just lies there, immobile.
Title: Re: Did cocaine for the first time last night...didn't feel anything...
Post by: ThisThatShit on October 04, 2013, 12:04 am
Get some a gram of that fish scale, I bet your ass feel that. You probably had diet coke.