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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: pixiegay on December 24, 2011, 08:43 pm

Title: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: pixiegay on December 24, 2011, 08:43 pm
Hello!  ;D

I'm interested in getting into the trade since there seems to be no one in the market here from my country and I reckon it's about time there is some available!

Basically I want to know everything about the production of pure white heroin. What type of plants will I need to grow? Where can I get seeds for these plants? Best growing conditions? Best lab equipment? Etc.

Cheers!
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: towelie on December 24, 2011, 09:06 pm
I know heroin makes you scratch but no idea how to make it from scratch, sorry.
 :D
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: johnnyfried123 on December 24, 2011, 10:46 pm
If you don't have any sort of chemistry background, I'm sorry to say that it's probably not a feasible idea...

You're going to also need somewhere where you can grow a large amount of opium poppies with relative safety.....why am I even explaining this to you? There are a million tutorials online, but once again, if anyone could just walk off the street and start manufacturing "pure white heroin" don't you think there'd be a lot more of them?
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: pixiegay on December 25, 2011, 02:49 am
If you don't have any sort of chemistry background, I'm sorry to say that it's probably not a feasible idea...

You're going to also need somewhere where you can grow a large amount of opium poppies with relative safety.....why am I even explaining this to you? There are a million tutorials online, but once again, if anyone could just walk off the street and start manufacturing "pure white heroin" don't you think there'd be a lot more of them?

I do have a decent grounding in chemistry and I do understand all of the basic concepts in chemistry. I plan to grow them in a secretive controlled environment in bulk so it will minimize the danger associated with the whole operation. Sure there are millions of tutorials online; but keep in mind each of those apply to different types of poppys, which is why I asked here in the first place. I want to get a recommendation on what sort of seeds to get from whom, what are the best growing conditions for this type of poppy and what is the best way to prepare the heroin, etc.

I'm positively sure that silkroad would give a more in depth answer than any answers on that of the surface web. However if you or anyone for that matter has any links to reasonable guide on dark/the surface web then please feel free to share it :P
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on December 25, 2011, 03:19 am
...know anyone "serving" in afghanistan ?!
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: derekforeal on December 25, 2011, 03:34 am
.......that will mail us a bunch of fresh pods?
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: towelie on December 25, 2011, 03:48 am
Sorry, but I am sarcastic by nature. ;)
The poppies with the highest alkaloid content seem to be any variety that are bright red, or the giganteums that are a pale white with a pale bluish/purple center. The Danish Flag variety also have a high alkaloid content.
Any of your pure purple variety's or any of the peony type have low alkaloid content like the "Hungarian Purple". Also, Papaver Bracteatum AKA Iranian poppies have a higher thebaine content therefore not suitable for heroin production.
Also, one thing to consider from what I have read is that 12" apart is optimum spacing for strength. At that distance though you will have fewer "tillers" which are the secondary smaller pods that sprout off. Thereby giving you fewer pods but higher morphine content per pod.
One more thing I have noticed is that poppies actually fare worse in highly enriched soil. They seem to actually enjoy being made to work for their nutrients.
And once they start to flower, stop watering as that will loosen up or dilute the latex.
That's about all I know pod wise.
As far as the chem side goes surely there are some on here that can help.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: lvlbrained on December 25, 2011, 04:08 am
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: Asbury on December 25, 2011, 04:14 am
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.

isn't there some heavily controlled chemical you need for the process that is very hard to get?
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: towelie on December 25, 2011, 05:28 am
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.

isn't there some heavily controlled chemical you need for the process that is very hard to get?

I think you are thinking of Acetic Anhydride or Anhydrous Acetic acid, something like that.
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: derekforeal on December 25, 2011, 05:51 am
I looked in to that once and found out that it takes a 100ftx100ft room filled with poppie plants to produce a gram of heroin!  Same with cocaine!  Thats what the "experts" informed me.  I didnt like hearing that, but I would love to prove them wrong! ???
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: johnnyfried123 on December 25, 2011, 07:01 am
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.

isn't there some heavily controlled chemical you need for the process that is very hard to get?

I think you are thinking of Acetic Anhydride or Anhydrous Acetic acid, something like that.

Acetic anhydride :)

The one who, in a sense, seperates morphine from diacetylmorphine :)
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: kisskissbangbang on December 25, 2011, 11:41 am
pretty much buy some, sell it, don't waste time researching how to grow.
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: drugfather on December 25, 2011, 12:01 pm
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.

isn't there some heavily controlled chemical you need for the process that is very hard to get?

I think you are thinking of Acetic Anhydride or Anhydrous Acetic acid, something like that.

Acetic anhydride :)

The one who, in a sense, seperates morphine from diacetylmorphine :)


I wish I would've gotten in on this topic earlier. Making heroin is quite simple. You can do a simple extraction of morphine/codeine from poppy seeds... Opium/ poppy plants aren't hard to get. It's the acetic anhydride that acts in the acetylation of morphine to diacetylmorphine that's strictly controlled under CWC's schedule (not to mention the DEA's.) Thank god I'm alumni of a good college in the chemistry / pharmacology field plus have relatives who work in the oil business. Acetic anhydride is nothing more than a simple reagent to in simple terms complete a chemical reaction.


If you have a way of getting acetic anhydride, making heroin is as easy as baking a cake :)
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: towelie on December 25, 2011, 06:37 pm
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.

isn't there some heavily controlled chemical you need for the process that is very hard to get?

I think you are thinking of Acetic Anhydride or Anhydrous Acetic acid, something like that.

Acetic anhydride :)

The one who, in a sense, seperates morphine from diacetylmorphine :)


I wish I would've gotten in on this topic earlier. Making heroin is quite simple. You can do a simple extraction of morphine/codeine from poppy seeds... Opium/ poppy plants aren't hard to get. It's the acetic anhydride that acts in the acetylation of morphine to diacetylmorphine that's strictly controlled under CWC's schedule (not to mention the DEA's.) Thank god I'm alumni of a good college in the chemistry / pharmacology field plus have relatives who work in the oil business. Acetic anhydride is nothing more than a simple reagent to in simple terms complete a chemical reaction.


If you have a way of getting acetic anhydride, making heroin is as easy as baking a cake :)

Is this your way of saying "wink wink nudge nudge say no more"?

BTW everyone, if you did not know already, a pound or two of unwashed poppy seeds can temporarily alleviate sickness. Washed seeds won't do shit but make you wish you had unwashed seeds.

BTW if you have easy access to a large amount of poppy pods there is a great tutorial on Somni-Forum on how to make something similar to Laudanum.  I made a small batch a couple of years ago and it was incredible.
Title: Re: How to make heroin from scratch
Post by: drugfather on December 25, 2011, 07:08 pm
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

tells you how its done. not very complicated. getting the opium is the hard part.

isn't there some heavily controlled chemical you need for the process that is very hard to get?

I think you are thinking of Acetic Anhydride or Anhydrous Acetic acid, something like that.

Acetic anhydride :)

The one who, in a sense, seperates morphine from diacetylmorphine :)


I wish I would've gotten in on this topic earlier. Making heroin is quite simple. You can do a simple extraction of morphine/codeine from poppy seeds... Opium/ poppy plants aren't hard to get. It's the acetic anhydride that acts in the acetylation of morphine to diacetylmorphine that's strictly controlled under CWC's schedule (not to mention the DEA's.) Thank god I'm alumni of a good college in the chemistry / pharmacology field plus have relatives who work in the oil business. Acetic anhydride is nothing more than a simple reagent to in simple terms complete a chemical reaction.


If you have a way of getting acetic anhydride, making heroin is as easy as baking a cake :)

Is this your way of saying "wink wink nudge nudge say no more"?

BTW everyone, if you did not know already, a pound or two of unwashed poppy seeds can temporarily alleviate sickness. Washed seeds won't do shit but make you wish you had unwashed seeds.

BTW if you have easy access to a large amount of poppy pods there is a great tutorial on Somni-Forum on how to make something similar to Laudanum.  I made a small batch a couple of years ago and it was incredible.




Hahaha I guess you got what I intended to portray . :P :-X