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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: TheYowie on December 10, 2012, 12:42 am

Title: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: TheYowie on December 10, 2012, 12:42 am
Dear Vendors,

It's come to my attention from other buyers that there is increasing difficulty in sourcing Molly from OS.  While the reasons for this are many and varied, I believe there is an opportunity for a vendor to step up and service our fine country BETTER than the current crop of vendors.

I don't want to dwell on the negative vendor-side reasons why we're potentially seeing an increased number of no-shows, but instead look at positive ways to improve the situation.  There's two issues I want to raise.

If you've read recently in the shipping thread, you'll notice that a single vac sealed PE bag has incredibly high permeability, to the point where unobstructed and distracted, a trained sniffer dog can detect Molly in 15 minutes of it being packed.  I don't need to tell you what the permeability is like once it gets to Australia!  Or even to the guy on the next room  :o

The second point I want to raise, is the high prices in AU.  Currently on here they're 200-250 dollars a gram, with street prices being higher again.

So, what we have here as far as I'm concerned is an opportunity for a vendor to make some good coin from doing the overseas market properly, and more importantly, get more Molly into the hands of happy Molly loves, both here and OS.

The answer of course is simple - IMPROVE SHIPPING.

How would this be achieved?

Simple.

Improve your shipping, charge for it, price shipments at a good deal under AU prices.

1. Improve Shipping.
Two things - PE bags are good for only sealing stuff in, they do not offer any 'stealth'.  NONE. It can also be argued that vacuum sealing makes matters worse.  It appears that HDPP is the way to go, but you can read more here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33755.30

2. Reap Profits.
Prices are super high in AU, so you can add a couple of steps to your shipping, charge something like 3 or more BTC's for it, and come out further on top.  $100 for a gram of Molly shipped would still be half the local price.  But don't take my word for it - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33755.30

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Thus eventually the men will be separated from the boys, so you had better be ready when it comes. Because then there will be über-profits for all the sharpest vendors. I'll explain why.

This evolution will most likely at the level of International Shipping because the package numbers are smaller than Domestic. Thing is of course is that the smart vendors have already long figured out that the profit margins on geographical arbitrage are much higher than D2D. I mean, you can obtain your normal margin + at something like 25% - 100% on the entire deal by transshipping up from some southern states (e.g. cocaine) to ones like New York, or (e.g. marijuana) shipping from British Columbia to the south, another veritable silk road. But! You could just as easily be shipping to countries like Norway, Sweden, New Zealand and Australia. For example; even a naive vendor pair with no previous connects can buy e.g. cocaine @ 80USD/g in the southern U.S and then have the other fellow in New Zealand who will be able to retail it at a minimum of 300USD/g. I've actually heard it's twice as high as that, but I'm being conservative here. Similarly, there is huge demand for real MDMA (because in truth they've never had the real thing in some parts), you can acquire at 2-4USD per pill and retail at 30-40USD per pill in Australia and New Zealand.

Think about that. Take the average at both geographical locations and calculate. That's a > 1000% profit for the pair of you! Of course shipping also takes longer, so let's not get too excited, but even so, I think you should be cheering.

An outraged Hoffa can confirm prices, I think he'll broadly agree wherever he happens to live.

So that's it, essentially.

There's an opportunity for a vendor who is passionate about the international market and always looking to improve the way they do business, but currently NOBODY seems to have stepped up to the plate.  To me this is highly ironic, because the very nature of SR involves shipping, and missing shipments is a headache and bad karma for everyone, and why vendors wouldn't be looking to improve their shipping is beyond me.  You can sure as hell bet LE aren't sitting there thinking their methods are 'good enough'.

Does any of this ring true for anyone?
Title: Re: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: Chronos on July 19, 2013, 10:57 am
Fucking oath! I still can't decide whether to buy MDMA international/domestic.
Customs are a bunch of fuckwits so if overseas vendors constantly upgraded their stealth for the land down under I'll be one very happy customer :)
Title: Re: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: uglydoll on July 23, 2013, 08:32 am
Well maybe its a good idea for you AUSSIES and NZ

to get an EUROPEAN FORWARD COMPANY  that can forward your mail from europe to AUS .
so if you order from NL get an mail forwarder in Germany and they send it to Australia . ITS ONLY AN EXAMPLE

If iam Honest i got lucky sometimes but, sometimes i dont.
Title: Re: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: artline500 on July 23, 2013, 10:25 am
A lot of vendors are doing the right thing and have upped their stealth but I think when customs get flooded with 100+ envelopes that all look identical in one load, have the same return address on it... well it's not rocket science all they have to do is open one find contraband and BANG all the other envelopes are going to be seized aswell.

Vendors need to- MIX UP THE ENVELOPES THEY ARE USING (DIFFERENT COLORS AND SIZES)
                          CHANGE RETURN ADDRESSES ON THE REG
                          BE SMART, NOT LAZY
Title: Re: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: django on July 23, 2013, 10:42 am
A lot of vendors are doing the right thing and have upped their stealth but I think when customs get flooded with 100+ envelopes that all look identical in one load, have the same return address on it... well it's not rocket science all they have to do is open one find contraband and BANG all the other envelopes are going to be seized aswell.

Vendors need to- MIX UP THE ENVELOPES THEY ARE USING (DIFFERENT COLORS AND SIZES)
                          CHANGE RETURN ADDRESSES ON THE REG
                          BE SMART, NOT LAZY


good point mate.
Title: Re: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: AussieMitch on July 23, 2013, 04:38 pm
Well maybe its a good idea for you AUSSIES and NZ

to get an EUROPEAN FORWARD COMPANY  that can forward your mail from europe to AUS .
so if you order from NL get an mail forwarder in Germany and they send it to Australia . ITS ONLY AN EXAMPLE

If iam Honest i got lucky sometimes but, sometimes i dont.

It's a good idea in theory but in practice it said in the terms and conditions of every mail forwarding company I researched that they open and check all mail before sending it internationally to ensure it doesn't contain anything illegal :(
Title: Re: Australia LOVES Molly / aka Your Shipping SUCKS
Post by: top44 on July 23, 2013, 05:19 pm
Dear Aussies.

Bungee54 - a top Vendor over a year on the Road, has excellent quality MDMA, and the results of its purity are going soon to be posted on the Avangers MDMA thread.
 in every aspect, he is a pro.

Now, he  has just created his Special Op profile, Specially for hard customs countries like AUS.
I dont think you would need to look elsewhere.... dedicated on super stealth shipping :)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/12c290570e that is his normal profile, with which he had also many successful deliveries to AUS, MDMA and Coke. there he has a link to the new account, but no listings yet, he will start in some weeks. I dont think he will list anything more than double the price, and that even this would seem very expensive in my opinion.

Anyways, i hope i have helped