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Title: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 12:49 am
Hello. You can call me "Rick". I am a 3rd rank officer in the LAPD Gang & Narcotics Division. I have over 10 years of field experience and have conducted 2 Controlled Deliveries so far and arrested many individuals.

I only support the law so far, but something has got to pay the bills. There are many times it would be a young man with only a small amount of oxy and we had to book him anyways. I don't like it, but I don't have a choice when other officers are around.

Feel free to ask questions, I think I can answer most of them.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Hitch on August 14, 2013, 01:05 am

   Hi Rick, can you give me an idea on how much of your budget comes from civil and criminal forfeitures?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 01:12 am

   Hi Rick, can you give me an idea on how much of your budget comes from civil and criminal forfeitures?
Hitch,

A higher ranked officer would be able to answer this more in depth, but I believe it is 80% of criminal proceeds found go to our bottom line. At least half of the money spent is from forfeitures and officers are usually rewarded for finding it. I am not sure if that is a monetary reward, or a case of donuts as I have never encountered such a situation.

I can however tell you we would rather find cash than drugs when conducting a search. It is often better evidence than the drugs themselves.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: ibnill77 on August 14, 2013, 01:13 am
What you shopping for OP?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: xda on August 14, 2013, 01:13 am
How can you verify you are LAPD? scan your badge perhaps?(with censors) otherwise you could be anyone spreading FUD.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 01:16 am
How can you verify you are LAPD? scan your badge perhaps?(with censors) otherwise you could be anyone spreading FUD.
I am not taking money from people, or giving you criminal advice on how to avoid the police. I am not doing anything illegal, just speaking out my experience in the force.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: ytabletrash on August 14, 2013, 01:17 am
Why do you continue to act against your will? How do you feel knowing that you have no real control over your actions and if you do not preform a certain way you will be fired? Does it make a difference to you if a crime effects others or is it just another day and you have no connection with those you arrest? Do you find yourself looking at people to try and figure out what they are doing illegally? If so does that make you look down on the general public as a whole?

Just some questions I have for you. I may ask more later.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: ytabletrash on August 14, 2013, 01:19 am
How can you verify you are LAPD? scan your badge perhaps?(with censors) otherwise you could be anyone spreading FUD.
I am not taking money from people, or giving you criminal advice on how to avoid the police. I am not doing anything illegal, just speaking out my experience in the force.
He was asking because we are used to trolls around here. Being that this is an anonymous forum many people lead people on to believe things that are not true. With a pic we could verify that you are or are not a cop and not waste our time with a troll.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Hitch on August 14, 2013, 01:20 am
   He hasn't said anything so far that could be even vaguely misconstrued as FUD. No need to be rude the man, it's the institutions, their guiding philosophies, and the serpentine power mongerers that feel entitled to rule who deserve our anger.

   Rick, is there an aspect of your role you like most?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD on August 14, 2013, 01:23 am
Is your department hiring right now?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: CMK2914 on August 14, 2013, 01:28 am
   He hasn't said anything so far that could be even vaguely misconstrued as FUD. No need to be rude the man, it's the institutions, their guiding philosophies, and the serpentine power mongerers that feel entitled to rule who deserve our anger.


To play devil's advocate, does that mean one shouldn't have harbored anger or disrespect to the SS guards, but should have reserved it only for the Nazi regime's head honchos?

Please note I am not in any way comparing the severity of the respective contexts, my point is simply that being a non-decisionmaking cog doesn't absolve one from moral responsibility.

Now, to Rick:

You said officers are rewarded for forfeitures.  In what way?  Also, how do you justify the absolutely perverse incentives that such a "bonus plan" creates?  Does anyone on the force feel remotely bad about that? As a citizen, it enrages me.  And people are starting to fight back as well, a federal prosecutor was just denied confirmation after being appointed to a Mass. court, because the panel that had to prove the appointment was disgusted by the prosecutor's involvement in unjust forfeiture actions.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: HubertCumberdale on August 14, 2013, 01:34 am
Not to be a dick...
Why would you introduce yourself as an officer?
You say "something's gotta pay the bills" - are you hinting that you will be purchasing from SR?
If so, it seems to me that most vendors would be iffy on selling to a self-proclaimed officer.

I don't mean any disrespect here, something just seem awry to me.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Bongtree on August 14, 2013, 01:38 am
Hello. You can call me "Rick". I am a 3rd rank officer in the LAPD Gang & Narcotics Division. I have over 10 years of field experience and have conducted 2 Controlled Deliveries so far and arrested many individuals.

I only support the law so far, but something has got to pay the bills. There are many times it would be a young man with only a small amount of oxy and we had to book him anyways. I don't like it, but I don't have a choice when other officers are around.

Feel free to ask questions, I think I can answer most of them.

Hi "Rick",

Just curious, in your department is Silk Road even an issue that LE are even worried about, or are they after street level deals mostly? Also, how can someone be prepared or foresee a controlled delivery if there were to be one. Adding to that question..what are the laws on controlled deliveries?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Hitch on August 14, 2013, 01:38 am
   Do you know what Godwin's law is? :) You can be angry at "cogs" who act with evil intent, who abuse the power imbalance their role provides. I cannot imagine how one could justify directing anger at some unknown simply because you have a pre-conceived notion of the type of person they must be to have a particular job, however.

   
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: ItsHotNow on August 14, 2013, 01:44 am
How do you feel the continuing decriminalization/legalization of marijuana will affect criminal/gang activity?  Do you support legalization of marijuana? 

What do you feel like is LA's biggest crime problem right now?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: CMK2914 on August 14, 2013, 01:49 am
   Do you know what Godwin's law is? :) You can be angry at "cogs" who act with evil intent, who abuse the power imbalance their role provides. I cannot imagine how one could justify directing anger at some unknown simply because you have a pre-conceived notion of the type of person they must be to have a particular job, however.

 

I do, and in fact I know it well enough to know that it isn't applicable here.  I expressly disclaimed that I was comparing the severity or the contexts.  I didn't call OP a Nazi.  Not every use of the word "Nazi" on the internet fulfills Godwin's law, FYI.

"I was following orders" is not an acceptable excuse to me.  If you do something unjust, you've done it, and are responsible for it. 

And as someone who has dealt with cops on a professional basis throughout my career, I'm comfortable saying that the typical person attracted to police work has an authoritarian bent to them.  It's the same rule as politicians: the ones who want the job are most often the ones you want nowhere near the job.  Drug laws/enforcement are but a tiny part of it all.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 01:49 am
Why do you continue to act against your will? How do you feel knowing that you have no real control over your actions and if you do not preform a certain way you will be fired? Does it make a difference to you if a crime effects others or is it just another day and you have no connection with those you arrest? Do you find yourself looking at people to try and figure out what they are doing illegally? If so does that make you look down on the general public as a whole?

Just some questions I have for you. I may ask more later.
Drugs are a complicated issue because in a busy city such as Los Angeles the majority of drug users are criminals and are not recreational users. We have no idea where the drugs are coming from, their intended purpose, and how it will affect the end users. A vast majority of the time, we find weapons in a housing location where cocaine and heroin are located, and that combination is not something I can turn a blind eye to.

The drugs themselves are not that bad until you start getting into hard stuff, but it is the fact we always find them with violence, immigrants, and civilian disputes that keeps you going thinking you are doing the "right thing". I have turned a blind eye before to a group of males using psychedelics and arrests for marijuana are getting more and more rare.

I almost never instigate an arrest myself. If I see a banned substance I will probably do something about it, but I do not view the average person as likely to be a criminal or drug user.  Being in the police department inherently gives you a bad view of controlled substances because of the demographics of where they come from, and the violent societies that are formed from them. Within the department officers usually express no emotion towards the drugs or the situation unless it gets really out of hand or extreme.

I cannot take a picture of my badge because you can identify the county from it. I would basically have to remove the entire image.

Hitch,
 I enjoy that I determine how people are punished for their crimes. If a person clearly has no issues but was caught with marijuana then we have the power to let them go or just write a citation. I don't accept bribes, but I would be a very wealthy man if I did.

The department does not have hiring signs on the windows so I don't really know. If you are well qualified you can get a job at numerous police departments. If you are just starting out, probably not.

CMK2914,
I know that a higher percentage of the forfeitures goes to the specific division that found it, if not 90% of it. A couple of years ago we found a European riding around in a van with 3 kilograms of cocaine and $xx,xxx cash. The lead officer of the division gave several public statements and the officers on duty who found the cocaine went out drinking. There are end of the year bonuses for several things, including the total street value of drugs found on cases where you were present, number of illegal immigrants detained, and overtime hours worked, but I am not that knowledgeable on where the total money goes.

Nearly all officers enjoy all aspects of the job, or at least aren't going around questioning the morals of such a system.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: weather420 on August 14, 2013, 01:58 am
What is your perspective of the Drug War? Especially the SWAT style tactics developed in your city to combat victimless crimes. We all know drugs are deleterious to ones physiology, but the government in my opinion, has zero authority to dictate what adults do to their bodies. And to your comment regarding guns being associated with illegal contraband.If the market was state controlled their would be no need for anyone to be armed. The violence involved within the drug trade is a direct product of their prohibition.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: CMK2914 on August 14, 2013, 01:58 am

Drugs are a complicated issue because in a busy city such as Los Angeles the majority of drug users are criminals and are not recreational users.

I think you underestimate the number of non-criminal recreational users.  The ones you don't see and can't count.


The drugs themselves are not that bad until you start getting into hard stuff, but it is the fact we always find them with violence, immigrants, and civilian disputes that keeps you going thinking you are doing the "right thing". I have turned a blind eye before to a group of males using psychedelics and arrests for marijuana are getting more and more rare.

Please justify this.  Are you saying you've never come across violence, immigrants, or civilian disputes that are not drug-related?  Do you deny that there are plenty of drug situations that result in absolutely zero negative consequences?  It sounds to me that instead of really having any grounds for convincing yourself that you are doing the "right thing," you simply just don't like people who do bad things.  There are plenty of em who don't do drugs, believe you me.

Being in the police department inherently gives you a bad view of controlled substances because of the demographics of where they come from, and the violent societies that are formed from them.

Do you ever wonder whether the system of prohibition created and continues to cause the maladies so often attributed to the "drug underworld?"  Or do you think that drugs and violence are so inherently connected that this is WHY they must be stopped?
 
Nearly all officers enjoy all aspects of the job, or at least aren't going around questioning the morals of such a system.

Well that is indicative of a major flaw in the moral character of you colleagues, in my opinion.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Hitch on August 14, 2013, 02:08 am
   Do you know what Godwin's law is? :) You can be angry at "cogs" who act with evil intent, who abuse the power imbalance their role provides. I cannot imagine how one could justify directing anger at some unknown simply because you have a pre-conceived notion of the type of person they must be to have a particular job, however.

 

I do, and in fact I know it well enough to know that it isn't applicable here.  I expressly disclaimed that I was comparing the severity or the contexts.  I didn't call OP a Nazi.  Not every use of the word "Nazi" on the internet fulfills Godwin's law, FYI.

"I was following orders" is not an acceptable excuse to me.  If you do something unjust, you've done it, and are responsible for it. 

And as someone who has dealt with cops on a professional basis throughout my career, I'm comfortable saying that the typical person attracted to police work has an authoritarian bent to them.  It's the same rule as politicians: the ones who want the job are most often the ones you want nowhere near the job.  Drug laws/enforcement are but a tiny part of it all.

   I'm comfortable saying that the typical person has an authoritarian bent to them; Phillip Zimbardo and the Stanford prison experiment?

   I'm not sure what you're getting at with your following orders comment, specifically? Are you implying that simply being a police officer is a permanent act of injustice? For all it's many flaws and wide-spread negative effects on society the police are an, could be much much more of an, important and indispensable instrument for maintaining and enhancing civic health and well-being.

   We want the sort of police officers who would come to these forums in their spare time to attempt to engage with us, open themselves up to enquiry, acting respectfully even in the face of hostility.

 
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 02:17 am
Hello. You can call me "Rick". I am a 3rd rank officer in the LAPD Gang & Narcotics Division. I have over 10 years of field experience and have conducted 2 Controlled Deliveries so far and arrested many individuals.

I only support the law so far, but something has got to pay the bills. There are many times it would be a young man with only a small amount of oxy and we had to book him anyways. I don't like it, but I don't have a choice when other officers are around.

Feel free to ask questions, I think I can answer most of them.

Hi "Rick",

Just curious, in your department is Silk Road even an issue that LE are even worried about, or are they after street level deals mostly? Also, how can someone be prepared or foresee a controlled delivery if there were to be one. Adding to that question..what are the laws on controlled deliveries?
The department is aware drugs are sold on the internet, but that is viewed as one single term rather then dividing it up. We have no idea where the drugs are coming from other than the internet. Street deals are obviously 95%+ of what gets our attention.

A controlled delivery will always be later than it should of been. To my understanding it is near impossible to do a controlled delivery on anything that arrives in less than 3 days.

In the two instances where I was involved in a controlled delivery, we had two officers in a cruiser down the block, one in the mailman's car (a real one), and the mailman was an undercover officer. In my experience, the undercover cop will always be indiscreetly armed and in good physical shape. The usual mailman will be no where in sight because we cannot take the risk of you being armed. There can be 1 or multiple officers in his vehicle, so if you notice there are other individuals in the vehicle or something suspicious about it, that is a potential tip off. At least one cruiser must be legally present, and rarely will cruisers be parked in a residential area.

The regulations we were told to follow is if the receiver does not sign for the package we cannot issue a search warrant unless there is other reasonable cause. If the package is signed for and the person is disabled, over the age of 65, or under the age of 12 in appearance, a peaceful search warrant will be issued which means we won't put you in cuffs or have 10 officers pointing guns at you. If there is nothing else in the residence, it is reported back and from there I do not know what happens.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 02:18 am
Not to be a dick...
Why would you introduce yourself as an officer?
You say "something's gotta pay the bills" - are you hinting that you will be purchasing from SR?
If so, it seems to me that most vendors would be iffy on selling to a self-proclaimed officer.

I don't mean any disrespect here, something just seem awry to me.
The point of this thread is to give an insiders view of something that many people have questions about.
I have never done drugs in my life, and if I ordered from silk road there is nothing I could do about the vendor. The decision to make a controlled delivery comes in from a sorting facility usually in a different state and is given to the head of the department who controls the county in which the package is destined for. From there he has full authority to do anything. So no, I cannot conduct a CD by myself or even attempt it.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: CMK2914 on August 14, 2013, 02:22 am
   Do you know what Godwin's law is? :) You can be angry at "cogs" who act with evil intent, who abuse the power imbalance their role provides. I cannot imagine how one could justify directing anger at some unknown simply because you have a pre-conceived notion of the type of person they must be to have a particular job, however.

 

I do, and in fact I know it well enough to know that it isn't applicable here.  I expressly disclaimed that I was comparing the severity or the contexts.  I didn't call OP a Nazi.  Not every use of the word "Nazi" on the internet fulfills Godwin's law, FYI.

"I was following orders" is not an acceptable excuse to me.  If you do something unjust, you've done it, and are responsible for it. 

And as someone who has dealt with cops on a professional basis throughout my career, I'm comfortable saying that the typical person attracted to police work has an authoritarian bent to them.  It's the same rule as politicians: the ones who want the job are most often the ones you want nowhere near the job.  Drug laws/enforcement are but a tiny part of it all.

   I'm comfortable saying that the typical person has an authoritarian bent to them; Phillip Zimbardo and the Stanford prison experiment?

   I'm not sure what you're getting at with your following orders comment, specifically? Are you implying that simply being a police officer is a permanent act of injustice? For all it's many flaws and wide-spread negative effects on society the police are an, could be much much more of an, important and indispensable instrument for maintaining and enhancing civic health and well-being.

   We want the sort of police officers who would come to these forums in their spare time to attempt to engage with us, open themselves up to enquiry, acting respectfully even in the face of hostility.

 

I would agree with you on the typical person having an authoritarian bent.  Which is why I advocate for limiting the amount of force any person or group of persons can exert against others as much as possible (borderline anarcho-capitalist, but not quite there).  Perhaps I can explain the basis of my feelings a bit.  I have been in 3 different prosecutors' offices, at the federal, state, and local level.  I have been in private practice, and I have also dedicated a significant portion of my career to civil liberties cases.  It is true that I have most likely seen more of the bad cops than the good ones, but where state power and authority is concerned, those are far more compelling than the good heartwarming stories.  Every bad story undoes 1,000 good ones, in my book.

Am I jaded? Yea, I suppose I am.  But I've seen too much of the abuse; enough to know that the concept of "protect and serve" is all but dead.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 02:23 am
How do you feel the continuing decriminalization/legalization of marijuana will affect criminal/gang activity?  Do you support legalization of marijuana? 

What do you feel like is LA's biggest crime problem right now?
In my opinion the legalization of a drug only has a small affect on how many people use it. The population of people who are pro-drugs yet do not engage in it because of the illegalization, is low. I support the legalization of every drug.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 02:27 am
What is your perspective of the Drug War? Especially the SWAT style tactics developed in your city to combat victimless crimes. We all know drugs are deleterious to ones physiology, but the government in my opinion, has zero authority to dictate what adults do to their bodies. And to your comment regarding guns being associated with illegal contraband.If the market was state controlled their would be no need for anyone to be armed. The violence involved within the drug trade is a direct product of their prohibition.
It is a futile effort. You cannot expect the state to acknowledge that you need to be armed in order to "safely" deal drugs. If drugs are found, and a gun is too, you won't see the light of day for a while.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: CMK2914 on August 14, 2013, 02:27 am
I support the legalization of every drug.

I find this confusing, as compared to your previous posts.  Please elaborate.  My interpretation of your previous comments is that you actually become more convinced that getting drugs off the street is the "right" thing to do as you go about your job.  Am I misinterpreting?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 02:37 am

Drugs are a complicated issue because in a busy city such as Los Angeles the majority of drug users are criminals and are not recreational users.

I think you underestimate the number of non-criminal recreational users.  The ones you don't see and can't count.

If I cannot see them then they do not exist in the eyes of the law. The profit projections for crime is drastically lower then what it actually is because we can only account for what we catch. I acknowledge there are many recreational cocaine users, but I see ones who have destroyed lives (other than their own) on a weekly basis. I am not saying any of this is wrong/right, just telling you the perspective of law enforcement.


The drugs themselves are not that bad until you start getting into hard stuff, but it is the fact we always find them with violence, immigrants, and civilian disputes that keeps you going thinking you are doing the "right thing". I have turned a blind eye before to a group of males using psychedelics and arrests for marijuana are getting more and more rare.

Please justify this.  Are you saying you've never come across violence, immigrants, or civilian disputes that are not drug-related?  Do you deny that there are plenty of drug situations that result in absolutely zero negative consequences?  It sounds to me that instead of really having any grounds for convincing yourself that you are doing the "right thing," you simply just don't like people who do bad things.  There are plenty of em who don't do drugs, believe you me.

A large portion of drug related encounters are non violent or as you put, without consequences. I am just doing my job, and I can only let people off in certain situations.
Being in the police department inherently gives you a bad view of controlled substances because of the demographics of where they come from, and the violent societies that are formed from them.

Do you ever wonder whether the system of prohibition created and continues to cause the maladies so often attributed to the "drug underworld?"  Or do you think that drugs and violence are so inherently connected that this is WHY they must be stopped?

If drugs were never made illegal there would be no "underworld". The underworld is the peaceful resistance to an unjust taxation. To some degree drugs such as meth encourage violence, but 80-90% of the drug induced problems would not exist if all was made legal.
 
Nearly all officers enjoy all aspects of the job, or at least aren't going around questioning the morals of such a system.

Well that is indicative of a major flaw in the moral character of you colleagues, in my opinion.

Not that I have a real argument against your statement, but we aren't paid enough to start analyzing everything.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 02:40 am
I support the legalization of every drug.

I find this confusing, as compared to your previous posts.  Please elaborate.  My interpretation of your previous comments is that you actually become more convinced that getting drugs off the street is the "right" thing to do as you go about your job.  Am I misinterpreting?
The violence and drama is caused by the fact they are illegal, not usually by the drug themselves. There can be some exceptions, as explained in my previous post.

You have to get the drugs off the street because you have to get the violence off the streets. You can't take one away without the other.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: CMK2914 on August 14, 2013, 02:44 am
I support the legalization of every drug.

I find this confusing, as compared to your previous posts.  Please elaborate.  My interpretation of your previous comments is that you actually become more convinced that getting drugs off the street is the "right" thing to do as you go about your job.  Am I misinterpreting?
The violence and drama is caused by the fact they are illegal, not usually by the drug themselves. There can be some exceptions, as explained in my previous post.

You have to get the drugs off the street because you have to get the violence off the streets. You can't take one away without the other.

I'm glad that you recognize this crucial fact.  As to your last statement, I think we can't say that until we've tried legalization.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: metaphoe on August 14, 2013, 02:51 am
Whats easier going to college and graduating or being on the force?

Who killed Biggie and Tupac?

Do you catch more marijuana users than drug users?

And how do those compare to real crimes against people?

Like woman beaters, rapers and murderers?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Hitch on August 14, 2013, 02:53 am
I support the legalization of every drug.

I find this confusing, as compared to your previous posts.  Please elaborate.  My interpretation of your previous comments is that you actually become more convinced that getting drugs off the street is the "right" thing to do as you go about your job.  Am I misinterpreting?
The violence and drama is caused by the fact they are illegal, not usually by the drug themselves. There can be some exceptions, as explained in my previous post.

You have to get the drugs off the street because you have to get the violence off the streets. You can't take one away without the other.

   I kind of agree, kind of don't. Yes the illegal nature of the drug trade is a key contributor to the violence surrounding the industry, but I don't agree that legalisation = removal of cultivation and distribution from the streets to some sort of regulated corporate drug industry.

   The illegality leads to very certain types of people becoming involved in the trade. Peepz who don't give a fuck yo :) If legalised and, perhaps more importantly, limiting as much as possible any profit incentive, it would cease to be an industry and become a field of amateurs and experts, practitioners and academics, engaged solely for the pleasure and joy it brings into their lives.

   I don't want to see drugs legalised only to be turned over to the exclusive profit oriented control of mega-pharmaceuticals or somehing like the multi-national alcohol distributors.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: weather420 on August 14, 2013, 02:56 am
What is your perspective of the Drug War? Especially the SWAT style tactics developed in your city to combat victimless crimes. We all know drugs are deleterious to ones physiology, but the government in my opinion, has zero authority to dictate what adults do to their bodies. And to your comment regarding guns being associated with illegal contraband.If the market was state controlled their would be no need for anyone to be armed. The violence involved within the drug trade is a direct product of their prohibition.
It is a futile effort. You cannot expect the state to acknowledge that you need to be armed in order to "safely" deal drugs. If drugs are found, and a gun is too, you won't see the light of day for a while.

I am aware of the Federal crime ramifications, combined with minimum sentences.My point was that, it is the illegal market/prohibition which creates the violence, not vice versa..I have had a gun put to my head a few times..not fun.I also had to escape a home invasion...Things can get out of control sometimes in the game. So, take that into consideration when you bust someones who is armed. Most of the time it is for their protection. You obviously cannot call the boys in blue for enforcement of underground markets.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: ScoobyDoo on August 14, 2013, 02:57 am
Dear Rick,

Who killed Tupac & Biggie?

Sincerely,
Scooby and the gang.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Sudoku777 on August 14, 2013, 02:58 am
Do you like violence? Have you ever though about shooting someone and then covering it up?
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 03:00 am
Whats easier going to college and graduating or being on the force?

Who killed Biggie and Tupac?

Do you catch more marijuana users than drug users?

And how do those compare to real crimes against people?

Like woman beaters, rapers and murderers?
When I joined it was much easier to get a job without a degree. If you don't have a way to make income by the time you are 18-19, go to college. If you do, then don't waste your time. It comes down to the individual, not society.

Marijuana is the most common drug by far. I don't understand your last statement. If you are caught with a small amount of marijuana then you will rarely even see the inside of a prison cell. If you kill someone, well I'm sorry you did that.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: LAPD. on August 14, 2013, 03:04 am
Do you like violence? Have you ever though about shooting someone and then covering it up?
The police department is far from clean.

I will elect not to comment on biggie and tupac as that is handled by a different department and the general consensus is that it was some puerto rican guy.
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: Hitch on August 14, 2013, 03:11 am
Do you like violence? Have you ever though about shooting someone and then covering it up?
The police department is far from clean.

I will elect not to comment on biggie and tupac as that is handled by a different department and the general consensus is that it was some puerto rican guy.

   Some Puerto Rican guy???!!! Oh dear, oh dear officer Rick  :o
Title: Re: I work for the LAPD
Post by: metaphoe on August 14, 2013, 03:13 am
thanks LAPD, i heard it was an inside job, and somehow they both tie in together.

It's just a thing that hurts me to see, the war on drugs go against youth, and its like every bit we try they try to take us down.

And i mean the thing with Tupac and Biggie, is the whole way it went down. It seems murder is a quiet way to die by a gun, and with real shit going on like Trayvon Martin, it goes to show we haven't changed much since the 90's