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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: SimpleSky on September 21, 2013, 06:26 pm

Title: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: SimpleSky on September 21, 2013, 06:26 pm
I see several listings where a fair percentage of the buyers are complaining about bunk material while others exclaim that it's the best dish they've ever licked.
Taking into account the placebo effect, and given that 39% of taken placebo ends in an expected effect (especially pain related effects - aka opiates) I'm highly skeptical of these listings. I know a few people who've even taken bunk acid and had a trip.
I'm fairly certain that most people are getting the same product. I doubt that these dealers have a stash of bunk and a stash of live-lead and play eenie-meenie everytime they send a shipment.
What do you guys think? Is it possible for a seller to put a purely bunk product up and get the 39% 5.0 because of the placebo effect? Think they scammers might even be betting on it?
It's almost my nature to see a few bunk claims and a few "amazing stuff" claims and give the seller the benefit of the doubt. However, statistically - we should be thinking about the placebo effect and consider that it's all bunk, the amazing stuff is just amazing because of placebo.
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: superconductor on September 21, 2013, 07:11 pm
I think you're spot on. I buy a lot of hash and when I was first starting out I went by the feedback and was consistently disappointed. Admittedly I do have high standards but why shouldn't I when I'm paying $12-20 per gram?

There's more than 1 hash vendor with pages and pages of outstanding feedback on hash that when I bought it would go straight in the bin, adulterated unsmokable rubbish, but so many people had said it's amazing etc in the feedback. Now I look at the content of the feedback rather than the amount of it. Using these forums helps too but there's not much hash discussion. Photos are important for hash and weed buyers too but I've seen pics blatantly taken from google images before, not so much here but a lot on Atlantis.

Once you find the honest sellers you tend to stick with them only venturing elsewhere when you need a change and can afford to take the loss.
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: superconductor on September 21, 2013, 07:14 pm
Also I guess a lot of buyers here are relatively inexperienced, either people who wouldn't normally buy drugs due to having to deel with dealers or, lets face it - teenagers. Naturally these people wouldn't know how to judge quality drugs.
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: dalecannon on September 21, 2013, 07:20 pm
Hash is oldschool, if you gonna go with it go with bubble has.  Enter the world of dabbing my friend you will never go back, i havnt smoked flower since my first order of wax, and c02 oil.
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: superconductor on September 21, 2013, 07:27 pm
Oh right thanks for the completely unsolicited off-topic advice. You're assuming (because you're an arrogant know-it-all) that I don't grow my own weed and make my own bubble hash and oil. Well I do, don't need to buy it like you, and it's great but I prefer some really high quality import hash for smoking during the day. I am oldshool.
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: SimpleSky on September 21, 2013, 07:43 pm
Ya, I've not dabbed, but it's something I would definitely consider trying at some point.
I smoke rarely as it is though, so I wouldn't want to put my self on the floor.
But yeah - back to the topic, I'd agree. It seems a lot of people gravitate toward a "main" seller. And I'm sure this is the reason.
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: ShpongleStarship on September 21, 2013, 08:16 pm
People also stick with their 'main' vendors because they then make themselves known to  the dealers, they're much more likely to get fully refunded if something actually DOES go missing in the post etc. Not to mention that customer loyalty will inevitably get rewarded.

I believe the majority of dealers do have better drugs than you'd normally find on the street.  But, you're probably more likely to find the odd complaint on products like benzodiazepines or opiates, especially among people who've never taken these classes of drugs before or are starting to develop tolerance, as they might find themselves underwhelmed by  even the purest of these (or in the case of benzos, may not actually 'feel' the high)
Title: Re: Placebo Effect on SR
Post by: SimpleSky on September 22, 2013, 08:04 am
I can definitely see that. I mean, likewise, I hope to find a key group of sellers I can trust and stick with. Not that the other sellers are bunk - I'm sure most are legit. I'm just saying - when you see that ratio of complaints, at least for me, it raises a red flag. You have to wonder if it's bunk. However, that probably wouldn't stop me from at least trying it out - if not just to see if it really is legitimate candy. :)