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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: different user name on July 08, 2012, 07:19 pm

Title: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: different user name on July 08, 2012, 07:19 pm
Do you think getting 'Postage Underpaid' note from the post office should ring alarm bells?
You can pay the fine remotely and they will resend but it seems a bit fishy...
Any idea what would happen to anything that was not resent or collected? Do they bin it? open it?


Title: Re: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: oscarzululondon on July 08, 2012, 07:29 pm
If the postage remains unpaid then they will return it to sender and if there is no sender on the reverse then they will bin it.

It's not suspicious, if law enforcement were after you they wouldn't use this tactic, unpaid postage isn't admission of ownership, you don't know what someone could have posted you until you actually receive it, so there's no risk, don't worry.

The vendor should get in shit though, it's very bad selling to do this. Very bad.
Title: Re: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: different user name on July 08, 2012, 08:32 pm
but what if its not to your name?
couldn't requesting it associate you with that name?
Title: Re: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on July 08, 2012, 10:34 pm
Did you care telling us the seller name? I don't want to deal with such a vendor..
Title: Re: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: CaptainSensible on July 08, 2012, 11:46 pm
Do you think getting 'Postage Underpaid' note from the post office should ring alarm bells?
You can pay the fine remotely and they will resend but it seems a bit fishy...
Any idea what would happen to anything that was not resent or collected? Do they bin it? open it?


Although it sounds like you're not in the US I want to mention something I heard about a US-bound SilkRoad package that had a similar problem.  The package was an overstuffed envelope that didn't make it through the automated machinery of the US Postal Service.  Because the envelope couldn't be processed by the post office machinery, it had to be processed by hand.  Since it was processed by hand extra postage was due (in the US it's called a "Non-Machinable Surcharge" fee). 
 
I don't know what you were having delivered but if the package was oversize or unusually shaped it may not have made it through the post office machinery.  Postal prices are kept down by automation, so it may be that your package required manual processing.


In the past, this kind of thing has happened when vendors stuff a little too much product in to an envelope.  Although the postage is correct the package can't make it through the machinery, and you (the buyer) are asked to pay a little extra. 


I can't say for sure, but that may be why you're getting a "Postage Underpaid" note.

Title: Re: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: different user name on July 09, 2012, 06:55 pm
hi again,
it was a small package so will not have jammed a machine.
i think it is probably best not to collect this order. i think doing so could connect me to the addressee - is this an argument for using your actual name on SR??????
if the post office will disgard stuff that doesn't get collected I would rather consider this a right off than take the (slightly higher than normal) risk trying to retrieve it.
now that i have decided not to collect due to my perceived extra risk, do you think i should finalize and take the loss myself or do you think the vendor should split it given the circumstances?
i don't want to name the vendor as it sounds like teething problems so i don't think it will happen again.
maybe just temporary paranoia but i think this might be the end of my days on SR...
cheers
e
Title: Re: Unpaid Postage?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on July 09, 2012, 09:54 pm
hi again,
it was a small package so will not have jammed a machine.
i think it is probably best not to collect this order. i think doing so could connect me to the addressee - is this an argument for using your actual name on SR??????
if the post office will disgard stuff that doesn't get collected I would rather consider this a right off than take the (slightly higher than normal) risk trying to retrieve it.
now that i have decided not to collect due to my perceived extra risk, do you think i should finalize and take the loss myself or do you think the vendor should split it given the circumstances?
i don't want to name the vendor as it sounds like teething problems so i don't think it will happen again.
maybe just temporary paranoia but i think this might be the end of my days on SR...
cheers
e

It may depend where you live, in Canada they do not check if a particular person resides at an address before delivering the mail. Facebook is full or real name to use.. Sometimes in one country there is 50 or more people with the same name... Just don't use one like "John Wayne" or "Tom Cruise"  :P