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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Seedless1 on December 18, 2012, 03:54 pm
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I have been wanting to become a seller on sr and thought the fees were approximately $160.00 - $180.00 and after I went and deposited the money into my bitcoins account I came home and immediately went in to create my sellers account only to find out that the fee is now something like 35 bitcoins which is somewhere around $450.00 to become a seller. That kicks me out of the program!!
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I am a newb so take this with a grain of salt. Complete conjecture on my part.
It appears to me they are trying to reduce the number of casual vendors who may be serious
or maybe not so serious. It seems they only want to allow those vendors who are serious about running a successful
vending operation. $500 is a lot to put up, but if a vendor is serious and has good product and a steady supply,
the $500 is really a small start up cost.
But who knows, maybe they just want more $.
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It's to discourage scammers from collecting money under one vendor account and jumping to the next.
It is also to discourage people just like the OP, no offense intended, because if 500 dollars is his main concern, then he probably has not done ALL of the needed reading about vending. There are far more important things to think about before you start a vendor account..... learn security and stealth methods.
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It is also to discourage people just like the OP, no offense intended, because if 500 dollars is his main concern, then he probably has not done ALL of the needed reading about vending. There are far more important things to think about before you start a vendor account..... learn security and stealth methods.
This.
$500 is nothing if you're a serious vendor. The fee should be high enough to discourage (a) scamming and then buying a new account; (b) noob vendors who have tenuous connections or don't think about what it actually takes to be a good vendor - hence they can never be reliable vendors and are a liability rather than an asset.
It should serve as as barrier to entry, basically, which is low enough that it allows anyone who really wants to be a vendor to be one, but discourages scammers and noobs.
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While I completely agree with the OP, I have to still agree with the other comments in this thread. I think that $500 is pretty damn steep (especially for someone that is just starting out), but in the light of preventing shitty sellers and scammers, it is quite a small fee to pay. I say to the OP, just save your money (sell some product! LOL), and pay when you can. The road is not going anywhere (HOPEFULLY!), so you have time to make it happen.
GOOD LUCK!
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MMMNNNN....
And the number of vendors x $500 has nothing to do with it.....
Its income, on top of fees you have to pay this.
The amount....nicely calculated what a vendor would be wanting to pay to sell. It could be less but why do that?
And for the ones saying ''yeah but this is to keep out scammers.....''
WHAT ABOUT THIS ??
After so many sales 50 OR 100?/ sales amount 15000 dollar? you GET THE 500 DOLLAR BACK IN YOUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE.....RIGHT... YOU WERE NO SCAMMER !!
Would this be fair, damn right because you already pay fees. Why should you BUY YOUR WAY IN?
Anyway....you will never win these discussions because....the ones making the decisions just....make the decisions.
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MMMNNNN....
And the number of vendors x $500 has nothing to do with it.....
Its income, on top of fees you have to pay this.
The amount....nicely calculated what a vendor would be wanting to pay to sell. It could be less but why do that?
And for the ones saying ''yeah but this is to keep out scammers.....''
WHAT ABOUT THIS ??
After so many sales 50 OR 100?/ sales amount 15000 dollar? you GET THE 500 DOLLAR BACK IN YOUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE.....RIGHT... YOU WERE NO SCAMMER !!
Would this be fair, damn right because you already pay fees. Why should you BUY YOUR WAY IN?
Anyway....you will never win these discussions because....the ones making the decisions just....make the decisions.
If using SR means you're making thousands upon thousands of $$$, why is paying $500 such a big deal?
You have to pay to play. Why shouldn't you have to buy your way in? Do you feel as though vendors should be given the privilege to use SR for free? That anyone can become a seller, even an idiot with no start up capital? And that a scammer can just come back with another account at no cost? You must live on a different planet.
My only gripe is that with all the money going to SR, shit like security should be AIRTIGHT. I believe more money should be reinvested.
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MMMNNNN....
And the number of vendors x $500 has nothing to do with it.....
Its income, on top of fees you have to pay this.
The amount....nicely calculated what a vendor would be wanting to pay to sell. It could be less but why do that?
And for the ones saying ''yeah but this is to keep out scammers.....''
WHAT ABOUT THIS ??
After so many sales 50 OR 100?/ sales amount 15000 dollar? you GET THE 500 DOLLAR BACK IN YOUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE.....RIGHT... YOU WERE NO SCAMMER !!
Would this be fair, damn right because you already pay fees. Why should you BUY YOUR WAY IN?
Anyway....you will never win these discussions because....the ones making the decisions just....make the decisions.
If using SR means you're making thousands upon thousands of $$$, why is paying $500 such a big deal?
You have to pay to play. Why shouldn't you have to buy your way in? Do you feel as though vendors should be given the privilege to use SR for free? That anyone can become a seller, even an idiot with no start up capital? And that a scammer can just come back with another account at no cost? You must live on a different planet.
My only gripe is that with all the money going to SR, shit like security should be AIRTIGHT. I believe more money should be reinvested.
Is it really so difficult to READ ? before give comments.
The question was why pay your way in at such high cost.
I personally had no problem with it but they keep talking to protect from scammers etc.
Try to read....I said if that is the case why not refund after proved not to be scamming 50 or 100 sales etc.
The vendors pay fees, why extra500 to be able to sell and therefor to be able to pay the fees.
Also the discussion is why the quality is so very below what everybody expects.
Not able login in for....don't know how long. Me now 4 !!! hours try to be able to see orders and talk to buyers with questions.
Still nothing but that cute round thing going round next to ''problem loading page''
SO YES...THEY TAKE THE MONEY AND GIVE SHIT
Take the money and no investment in better quality website. A -multi-million dollar business
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Is it really so difficult to READ ? before give comments.
The question was why pay your way in at such high cost.
I personally had no problem with it but they keep talking to protect from scammers etc.
Try to read....I said if that is the case why not refund after proved not to be scamming 50 or 100 sales etc.
The vendors pay fees, why extra500 to be able to sell and therefor to be able to pay the fees.
Also the discussion is why the quality is so very below what everybody expects.
Not able login in for....don't know how long. Me now 4 !!! hours try to be able to see orders and talk to buyers with questions.
Still nothing but that cute round thing going round next to ''problem loading page''
SO YES...THEY TAKE THE MONEY AND GIVE SHIT
Take the money and no investment in better quality website. A -multi-million dollar business
I would bet my ass that you are not able to tell the difference between having problems with TOR and having problems with SR.
This is not eBAY and you are not doing business with your favourite lipstick store around the corner - pretty please get that.
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Is it really so difficult to READ ? before give comments.
The question was why pay your way in at such high cost.
I personally had no problem with it but they keep talking to protect from scammers etc.
Try to read....I said if that is the case why not refund after proved not to be scamming 50 or 100 sales etc.
The vendors pay fees, why extra500 to be able to sell and therefor to be able to pay the fees.
Also the discussion is why the quality is so very below what everybody expects.
Not able login in for....don't know how long. Me now 4 !!! hours try to be able to see orders and talk to buyers with questions.
Still nothing but that cute round thing going round next to ''problem loading page''
SO YES...THEY TAKE THE MONEY AND GIVE SHIT
Take the money and no investment in better quality website. A -multi-million dollar business
I would bet my ass that you are not able to tell the difference between having problems with TOR and having problems with SR.
This is not eBAY and you are not doing business with your favourite lipstick store around the corner - pretty please get that.
also for you...READ !!
I am a vendor for 9 months 300+ sales and a 100% rating...who the fuck are you ?
The one who is exploiting SR has the responsibility to get it to work. He take the money and the ones who ''give'' him the money are struggling to get in to make money to pay him FEES !!!! and of course make a profit.
When you ask 500 dollar from a vendor you at least have to make sure he can log in.
This is getting just as much a scam as a ''vendor'' selling goods, take the money and not deliver them!!
So, you moron, I know this is not Ebay....I try to do as much for my customers as I can.
To do so I need to have to be able to log in. So, you who know it so good/well....tell me what the fun is of trying for 4 hours to get in because you know people are waiting for you. A 100% says all I think...so....what are you ?
Nitwit
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Personally I would like the fee raised to 1-2k. After 100 sales you get half back for those that don't make a lot of money per transaction that would even the playing field. But honestly if you can't afford 1k then you don't need to vend here. This isn't something to be done lightly and I would like to be associated with a better base of vendors then some that came into the scene as of recent. So many guys wanting to jump in sell for a month and jump out. We need consistent vendors pushing quality and quantity. We don't need your nickle dime riff raff around mucking up our REAL businesses. These types of vendors tend to disregard peoples safety which is inexcusable to me. Just my .02 though.......
-BV 8)
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Personally I would like the fee raised to 1-2k. After 100 sales you get half back for those that don't make a lot of money per transaction that would even the playing field. But honestly if you can't afford 1k then you don't need to vend here. This isn't something to be done lightly and I would like to be associated with a better base of vendors then some that came into the scene as of recent. So many guys wanting to jump in sell for a month and jump out. We need consistent vendors pushing quality and quantity. We don't need your nickle dime riff raff around mucking up our REAL businesses. These types of vendors tend to disregard peoples safety which is inexcusable to me. Just my .02 though.......
-BV 8)
Its not the money I was worrying about. I am a successful vendor.
My problem is that they take money, fees and ''buy in '' but the site need some serious updates to make it just working....just working is at the moment to much to ask.
We, the vendors and buyers made it possible that it is a great success and the millions are coming in.
Use part of that to make it work....that was all I asked...make it work.
Where, in whatever situation you will get people to push a refresh button for 4,6 8 hours ????????????
That is what we do .....often every day.
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Well sir..... I don't have to refresh for 4-8 hrs a day. In fact I'm logged in right now to my vendor account and can freely move about the site and my money is all there. Sounds honestly like you either don't have the most updated version of TOR, or its a combo of your ISP just not liking the wait time on page loads. Either way this isn't something that happens to everyone so please stop acting like the sky is falling when an exploit is found. You want no bugs? Go back to windows 3.1. I heard the bugs are worked out of that piece of software lol. :P
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Well sir..... I don't have to refresh for 4-8 hrs a day. In fact I'm logged in right now to my vendor account and can freely move about the site and my money is all there. Sounds honestly like you either don't have the most updated version of TOR, or its a combo of your ISP just not liking the wait time on page loads. Either way this isn't something that happens to everyone so please stop acting like the sky is falling when an exploit is found. You want no bugs? Go back to windows 3.1. I heard the bugs are worked out of that piece of software lol. :P
Unfortunately you have no clue what TOR or whatever I have/use. This reaction only show that you have no clue whatsoever and try to talk ''technical'' bugs, windows....or whatever so it seems you know what your talking about.
When you look at some other reactions many many have the same problems.
Just about 25 minutes ago could log in (needed 3x the login field name, pass and code.
Wrote a response to a message sent and it stopped right there.
So, as long as you don't have a real solution.....maybe don't bother people with response that does not contributed to any solutions.
Thank you
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It's called trolling. And it's a art. 8)
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It's called trolling. And it's a art. 8)
so one of the babies finished his homework and can play a little before mommy calls for diner
I must admit....there is always one more imbecile than you counted on
print and put it above your teenage bed!!
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You sure do take the bait. Anyway, I guess I will just go and troll someone else as this is far too easy. Enjoy wasting time while I am filling orders and spending my coins.
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You sure do take the bait. Anyway, I guess I will just go and troll someone else as this is far too easy. Enjoy wasting time while I am filling orders and spending my coins.
so, if I understand correctly....YOU are trolling and when I tell you how stupid and childish you react you tell me you are very busy with selling and buying so you don't want this and rather ''troll'' someone else....okayyyy ....that make sense.
''trolling'' to pass time...make sense.....of course....
Like I said: always one more imbecile than you counted on
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It's called trolling. And it's a art. 8)
You sir just got +1 karma'd. ;D
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To keep shitty vendors away ;D
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It's called trolling. And it's a art. 8)
You sir just got +1 karma'd. ;D
Thank you this guy gets it......... I just recently saw your other posts that revealed your age so honestly I am not surprised that you didn't pick up on the subtle hints that this is a HUGE joke that a few internet enthusiasts will enjoy. No this isn't my only outlet, but you are so easily annoyed that it is hard not to poke the bear. Btw, giving out even approximate age (although you said you were exactly 17 when Woodstock happened) on here as a vendor is RETARDED. You obviously don't value your security enough, which shows me that you could be lax with your security protocols for your buyers as well. The "you are childish" argument goes both ways since you are more than likely a child when it comes to the tech and security involved in this industry as a whole now. Except my childish trolling doesn't put me or my clients at risk. Just some food for thought there grandpa.
Best Regards,
-BV 8)
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I don't know about you guys, but when I signed up, I thought $150 was "steep".. since being a vendor here, I have easily multiplied that $150 considerably... If you know what you're doing and you're ready to make the COMMITMENT (this isn't Amazon here), then the initial account price is pennies on the dollar compared to your future revenue.
Besides, I easily burn through $500+ of supplies in a month. The initial price is nothing compared to ongoing/continuing costs.
One last thought. It's like an association fee, when I go to the tennis club, I pay $200 a month whether I play there or not, but you can bet that as soon as I pay that money, I am spending my every waking moment making the best use of the facilities. Your $500 initial investment will guarantee that you will spend your every waking moment running a business and doing it as best you can.
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It's called trolling. And it's a art. 8)
You sir just got +1 karma'd. ;D
Thank you this guy gets it......... I just recently saw your other posts that revealed your age so honestly I am not surprised that you didn't pick up on the subtle hints that this is a HUGE joke that a few internet enthusiasts will enjoy. No this isn't my only outlet, but you are so easily annoyed that it is hard not to poke the bear. Btw, giving out even approximate age (although you said you were exactly 17 when Woodstock happened) on here as a vendor is RETARDED. You obviously don't value your security enough, which shows me that you could be lax with your security protocols for your buyers as well. The "you are childish" argument goes both ways since you are more than likely a child when it comes to the tech and security involved in this industry as a whole now. Except my childish trolling doesn't put me or my clients at risk. Just some food for thought there grandpa.
Best Regards,
-BV 8)
60, maybe 51 you never know here huh with everybody lying :-p Woodstock maybe but that was in the US...maybe from the US maybe not...you never know.
its hard to grasp huh....always one more imbecile than you counted on
Doing/saying something stupid to make somebody -in your! eyes- look stupid if that is not immature/childish then what is?
Please get a life instead of looking for people when reading what they wrote you can think wow...I can say something witty so I look so smart to my adolescent -internet-friends because in real life I live with my mom, I am 350 pounds, ride a scooter in walmart and have no friends at all. My PC is my best friend.
LOL !!!
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I'm selling two vendor accounts for $300 each pm me if interested.
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I'm selling two vendor accounts for $300 each pm me if interested.
That's against the TOS of the accounts. If anything you will get baited out by staff and have those accounts removed.
@Jesse- The reason I spend time here is because honestly I am gathering a "Tribe". It's a principle based on the writer Seth Godin's book Tribes. Might want to pick it up sometime as it is a great read for building small businesses. The type of tribes collected from SR are generally going to be younger more tech savy individuals that would enjoy a good show when people like me and Limitless poke the bear so to speak. You are the one I simply don't understand though. You have said fuck SR and that you are leaving but you still stick around just to argue in a forum that you will not make money on. At least my ploys and tomfoolery are staged stunts meant to bring more people into my fold and check out my links so that I can make more money. Spending time in a support section of a business isn't a waste of a time but an investment in my hopefully long term relationship with the site and it's members. So the next time you want to call people out for what they do you might just want to think if your words will just fuel the fires of my obvious PR stunts that will eventually make me more successful and ultimately more profitable than you while you simply look foolish.
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I'm selling two vendor accounts for $300 each pm me if interested.
That's against the TOS of the accounts. If anything you will get baited out by staff and have those accounts removed.
just to see if I really get it.
trolling is an art...you say.
So again....when reading what other people -who just speaking their honest minds- wrote you can think wow...I can say something witty and put that person down so I look soooo smart to my adolescent -internet-friends.
So, as you say you are...a grown man need this to feel good? and a huge joke on internet? Ah ja, but only for the happy few, the incrowd, the ones living their life on the internet they are the ones that understand.
So you make a fool -or try to- of people and only a few understand that....okayyy smart thinking.
Its like a sort of a club, in the old days you played in a ''club or treehouse'' with a secret handshake and now you have that here on the internet forums.
And then you get what? Ah ja, KARMA!! wow isn't that something, it must be very very special and probably worth a lot.
If you see what you do to get it, its even there in your messages.... asking for karma. You must need that a lot.
That is so cool that you get karma and when you want you can do really cool things with it right?.....or......?
Or is it just that you are so insecure you need other people to tell you -with karma- what a great guy you are.
You need that virtual hug to feel good, feel loved.
So trolling is fucking people and the group thinks/say you are ''the man''
Okay, that was probably also the case with all those US shootings and suicides.
People just getting trolled so to speak and the one getting trolled is laughed at by the group until something snaps
But hey....you got your ''karma'' in whatever form.
So, the first part was to show what a stupid childish thing it is to do. Read a few times please so you really understand.
The second part because maybe you start to think although i doubt that.
So after all you are just a pathetic little troll !!
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Oh, I thought of a troll response to the OP;
Q: Why are the selling fees so high?
A: Because of Obamacare :)
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I'm selling two vendor accounts for $300 each pm me if interested.
That's against the TOS of the accounts. If anything you will get baited out by staff and have those accounts removed.
just to see if I really get it.
trolling is an art...you say.
So again....when reading what other people -who just speaking their honest minds- wrote you can think wow...I can say something witty and put that person down so I look soooo smart to my adolescent -internet-friends.
So, as you say you are...a grown man need this to feel good? and a huge joke on internet? Ah ja, but only for the happy few, the incrowd, the ones living their life on the internet they are the ones that understand.
So you make a fool -or try to- of people and only a few understand that....okayyy smart thinking.
Its like a sort of a club, in the old days you played in a ''club or treehouse'' with a secret handshake and now you have that here on the internet forums.
And then you get what? Ah ja, KARMA!! wow isn't that something, it must be very very special and probably worth a lot.
If you see what you do to get it, its even there in your messages.... asking for karma. You must need that a lot.
That is so cool that you get karma and when you want you can do really cool things with it right?.....or......?
Or is it just that you are so insecure you need other people to tell you -with karma- what a great guy you are.
You need that virtual hug to feel good, feel loved.
So trolling is fucking people and the group thinks/say you are ''the man''
Okay, that was probably also the case with all those US shootings and suicides.
People just getting trolled so to speak and the one getting trolled is laughed at by the group until something snaps
But hey....you got your ''karma'' in whatever form.
So, the first part was to show what a stupid childish thing it is to do. Read a few times please so you really understand.
The second part because maybe you start to think although i doubt that.
So after all you are just a pathetic little troll !!
See the edited post above you for the answer to your post. Funny how you will still be baited in.
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Oh, I thought of a troll response to the OP;
Q: Why are the selling fees so high?
A: Because of Obamacare :)
That is not a troll response, that is a joke about a situation -the fees- not personal.
You don't pick or want to hurt or make fun of people...besides Obama of course :-p
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I'm selling two vendor accounts for $300 each pm me if interested.
That's against the TOS of the accounts. If anything you will get baited out by staff and have those accounts removed.
just to see if I really get it.
trolling is an art...you say.
So again....when reading what other people -who just speaking their honest minds- wrote you can think wow...I can say something witty and put that person down so I look soooo smart to my adolescent -internet-friends.
So, as you say you are...a grown man need this to feel good? and a huge joke on internet? Ah ja, but only for the happy few, the incrowd, the ones living their life on the internet they are the ones that understand.
So you make a fool -or try to- of people and only a few understand that....okayyy smart thinking.
Its like a sort of a club, in the old days you played in a ''club or treehouse'' with a secret handshake and now you have that here on the internet forums.
And then you get what? Ah ja, KARMA!! wow isn't that something, it must be very very special and probably worth a lot.
If you see what you do to get it, its even there in your messages.... asking for karma. You must need that a lot.
That is so cool that you get karma and when you want you can do really cool things with it right?.....or......?
Or is it just that you are so insecure you need other people to tell you -with karma- what a great guy you are.
You need that virtual hug to feel good, feel loved.
So trolling is fucking people and the group thinks/say you are ''the man''
Okay, that was probably also the case with all those US shootings and suicides.
People just getting trolled so to speak and the one getting trolled is laughed at by the group until something snaps
But hey....you got your ''karma'' in whatever form.
So, the first part was to show what a stupid childish thing it is to do. Read a few times please so you really understand.
The second part because maybe you start to think although i doubt that.
So after all you are just a pathetic little troll !!
See the edited post above you for the answer to your post. Funny how you will still be baited in.
I, again, took the bait you say.....are you really that ignorant....still think I take bait you put out there.
As soon as you use a method to get you where or what you want and that method is hurting people in the broadest sense of the word you are doing wrong.
When you are not even intelligent enough to read my message, understand it and react in a human responsible way all I said was exactly to the point. And not intelligent IQ wise, just as a human being EQ.
I am sure this all go beyond what you, the great internet whatever can grasp.
I take the bait...again you said. I try to get some sense into a fucked up mind who think trolling, karma ''internetfriends'' (never met in real life) are the real world.
Get your karma hugs...here I'm just shaking my head in disbelieve.
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Just would like to point out that I do treat my tribesmen like the KINGS and QUEENS they are. The real power of this site is good customer service and relations.
I get messages like this in my inbox often and this one was from a custom listing I put up for a guy to include him in my special even though he had an odd amount request.
dude you are easily the coolest/nicest seller I have had the pleasure of doing business with, you will have me as a loyal customer for sure.
There are many good customers or my tribesmen as I like call them as I want a large and happy family of users as nothing less should be accepted around here as far as customer service is concerned. You moving completely to BMR on a whim while others have shot down your arguments of the site being unusable on a constant basis and is obviously something wrong with your situation. If you are ready to throw a resource like this away and confine yourself to a lesser site doesn't do your customers justice. Offering the option of both makes much more sense for both you and them. Your business sense is terrible for a man that claims to be retired in Europe and 60 years old.
You ignorant airheads make it in to something so great that nothing compare to it.
Well, we had that in the 60's already, yes, was 17 when Woodstock was there :-)
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High prices help weed out non-serious vendors and scammers. Simple as that.
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Just would like to point out that I do treat my tribesmen like the KINGS and QUEENS they are. The real power of this site is good customer service and relations.
I get messages like this in my inbox often and this one was from a custom listing I put up for a guy to include him in my special even though he had an odd amount request.
dude you are easily the coolest/nicest seller I have had the pleasure of doing business with, you will have me as a loyal customer for sure.
There are many good customers or my tribesmen as I like call them as I want a large and happy family of users as nothing less should be accepted around here as far as customer service is concerned. You moving completely to BMR on a whim while others have shot down your arguments of the site being unusable on a constant basis and is obviously something wrong with your situation. If you are ready to throw a resource like this away and confine yourself to a lesser site doesn't do your customers justice. Offering the option of both makes much more sense for both you and them. Your business sense is terrible for a man that claims to be retired in Europe and 60 years old.
You ignorant airheads make it in to something so great that nothing compare to it.
Well, we had that in the 60's already, yes, was 17 when Woodstock was there :-)
not europe my ignorant trolling .... maybe ASIA :-p
No reply to my anti trolling remarks....you probably understand that what you do...and i can write it again if you don't remember, is complete bullshit.
Now you start to quote your feedback how wonderful you are ...jesus fucking christ....you ARE sad .
Is the karma not enough LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know how you call it in english but...you try to get out after got shot...
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Well, we had that in the 60's already, yes, was 17 when Woodstock was there :-)
European, 60, retired, don't need the money (was very successful) so.....
Your the one looking foolish posting weird info all over then.... Misdirection my ass.
I already addressed your "anti trolling remarks" by informing you that stuff like this is a PR(public relations) stunt. I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish. You on the other hand only look foolish.
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Well, we had that in the 60's already, yes, was 17 when Woodstock was there :-)
European, 60, retired, don't need the money (was very successful) so.....
Your the one looking foolish posting weird info all over then.... Misdirection my ass.
I already addressed your "anti trolling remarks" by informing you that stuff like this is a PR(public relations) stunt. I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish. You on the other hand only look foolish.
you never know the truth do you LOL
You call what you want to gather around your ''TRIBESMAN"" people who buy from you...tribesman??
again, are fucking 16yo?
Tribesman, trolling is a PR stunt you say. Are you for real ????????
You are so ignorant you are not even able to answer my message about you trolling.
How stupid it is, how stupid to want to get KARMA.
Not a reaction from this very ''intelligent'' young internetbusiness man ....trolling is what he does best.
But, as you can read its for PR reasons....Jesussss I thought I saw it all.
ALWAYS ONE MORE IMBECILE THAN YOU COUNTED ON
I said it before and do it again
Are you for real? your customers ....TRIBESMAN?
trolling to make a good business, man, you are to weird
OKAY, THIS MAKES SENSE, YOU SAY>>>>> by informing you that stuff like this (- J added this- TROLLING) is a PR(public relations) stunt.
I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish.
Entertain folks? you are on a SR forum discussing fees for vendors....duh?
Get money to make me ! look foolish...ARE YOU FOR REAL?
Sorry, you need help and fast.
HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU ARE NOT HIDING BECAUSE YOU SOUND TO WEIRD MAN.
To sum it up, you say ....
Trolling is for fun, to get karma so i know people like me. I even ask for it in my messages.
No karma then I feel neglected and start to do stupid things to get it anyway.
My customers are my TRIBESMAN, we are at war and with me (the lord of course LOL) my TRIBESMAN are going to rule the drug world (or something like that LOL)
You are very successful and quote feedback to show that at least one think you are fantastic.
If you don't get your way you start to troll some more ( a reaction is taking bait and is -I think according to the/your rules- making you more the great troller or something like this ha ha ha) but the problem is what is brought up against you there is no way you can talk you way out of it.
You look like the little boy you actually are who is so insecure that he need his internetfriends to vote for him, hug him, love him.
UPDATE its not real, its a virtual world.
Your friends are not your friends, they have an sellers account on SR or are buying dope on SR.
You are here, the big internet guru, the young internet hero who knows how to fuck - innocent- people because nobody can touch you....you think:-p
You are not so smart, first....you picked the wrong guy. Second you did not got out when you had the chance (me telling you about the trolling/karma thing)
SO......
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I have been wanting to become a seller on sr and thought the fees were approximately $160.00 - $180.00 and after I went and deposited the money into my bitcoins account I came home and immediately went in to create my sellers account only to find out that the fee is now something like 35 bitcoins which is somewhere around $450.00 to become a seller. That kicks me out of the program!!
why do you have to pay so much money to sell here?
I want to start and have the money but what do you get for that?
I like to know before paying because I also see that is not working many times?
Hope to get an answer to my questions form people who know.
Thanks
Black
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why do you have to pay so much money to sell here?
I want to start and have the money but what do you get for that?
I like to know before paying because I also see that is not working many times?
Hope to get an answer to my questions form people who know.
Thanks
Black
Umm... maybe you get the privilege to use the site? A site built, run and maintained by someone else for your benefit? Maybe?
Say you want to open a shop IRL selling donuts, do you go around town asking people to let you use their property for free so that you can set up shop and start selling your donuts? Would they let you make money off their property for nothing in return? Or would you pay someone money to rent a shop?
And here's a question to those bitching about the startup fee: if you don't have the measly $500 needed to open a vendors account, how are you going to get the money to buy your supply in order to sell?? And seriously, how long could it possibly take a good vendor to make the $500 back? You're all acting like it was $50,000.
I don't get you people, I just don't.
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Just would like to point out that I do treat my tribesmen like the KINGS and QUEENS they are. The real power of this site is good customer service and relations.
I get messages like this in my inbox often and this one was from a custom listing I put up for a guy to include him in my special even though he had an odd amount request.
dude you are easily the coolest/nicest seller I have had the pleasure of doing business with, you will have me as a loyal customer for sure.
There are many good customers or my tribesmen as I like call them as I want a large and happy family of users as nothing less should be accepted around here as far as customer service is concerned. You moving completely to BMR on a whim while others have shot down your arguments of the site being unusable on a constant basis and is obviously something wrong with your situation. If you are ready to throw a resource like this away and confine yourself to a lesser site doesn't do your customers justice. Offering the option of both makes much more sense for both you and them. Your business sense is terrible for a man that claims to be retired in Europe and 60 years old.
You ignorant airheads make it in to something so great that nothing compare to it.
Well, we had that in the 60's already, yes, was 17 when Woodstock was there :-)
i want to be a seller and i think you're right about how to treat customers
i hope i can have that soon. want to open a sellers account but need to figure some things out.
Silk Road is really great, wow
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why do you have to pay so much money to sell here?
I want to start and have the money but what do you get for that?
I like to know before paying because I also see that is not working many times?
Hope to get an answer to my questions form people who know.
Thanks
Black
Umm... maybe you get the privilege to use the site? A site built, run and maintained by someone else for your benefit? Maybe?
Say you want to open a shop IRL selling donuts, do you go around town asking people to let you use their property for free so that you can set up shop and start selling your donuts? Would they let you make money off their property for nothing in return? Or would you pay someone money to rent a shop?
And here's a question to those bitching about the startup fee: if you don't have the measly $500 needed to open a vendors account, how are you going to get the money to buy your supply in order to sell?? And seriously, how long could it possibly take a good vendor to make the $500 back? You're all acting like it was $50,000.
I don't get you people, I just don't.
no problem ....money is no problem, just want to know why people talk about it
I will sell mdma, speed and coke so it will be good business.
Need to know what else I need to know to start here.
Great site !!!! love it
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i am new and want some info but is it normal that people argue here like bluevail and jesse
why is he talking this way
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i have a -1 with my name
what does that mean
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Well, we had that in the 60's already, yes, was 17 when Woodstock was there :-)
European, 60, retired, don't need the money (was very successful) so.....
Your the one looking foolish posting weird info all over then.... Misdirection my ass.
I already addressed your "anti trolling remarks" by informing you that stuff like this is a PR(public relations) stunt. I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish. You on the other hand only look foolish.
you never know the truth do you LOL
You call what you want to gather around your ''TRIBESMAN"" people who buy from you...tribesman??
again, are fucking 16yo?
Tribesman, trolling is a PR stunt you say. Are you for real ????????
You are so ignorant you are not even able to answer my message about you trolling.
How stupid it is, how stupid to want to get KARMA.
Not a reaction from this very ''intelligent'' young internetbusiness man ....trolling is what he does best.
But, as you can read its for PR reasons....Jesussss I thought I saw it all.
ALWAYS ONE MORE IMBECILE THAN YOU COUNTED ON
I said it before and do it again
Are you for real? your customers ....TRIBESMAN?
trolling to make a good business, man, you are to weird
OKAY, THIS MAKES SENSE, YOU SAY>>>>> by informing you that stuff like this (- J added this- TROLLING) is a PR(public relations) stunt.
I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish.
Entertain folks? you are on a SR forum discussing fees for vendors....duh?
Get money to make me ! look foolish...ARE YOU FOR REAL?
Sorry, you need help and fast.
HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU ARE NOT HIDING BECAUSE YOU SOUND TO WEIRD MAN.
To sum it up, you say ....
Trolling is for fun, to get karma so i know people like me. I even ask for it in my messages.
No karma then I feel neglected and start to do stupid things to get it anyway.
My customers are my TRIBESMAN, we are at war and with me (the lord of course LOL) my TRIBESMAN are going to rule the drug world (or something like that LOL)
You are very successful and quote feedback to show that at least one think you are fantastic.
If you don't get your way you start to troll some more ( a reaction is taking bait and is -I think according to the/your rules- making you more the great troller or something like this ha ha ha) but the problem is what is brought up against you there is no way you can talk you way out of it.
You look like the little boy you actually are who is so insecure that he need his internetfriends to vote for him, hug him, love him.
UPDATE its not real, its a virtual world.
Your friends are not your friends, they have an sellers account on SR or are buying dope on SR.
You are here, the big internet guru, the young internet hero who knows how to fuck - innocent- people because nobody can touch you....you think:-p
You are not so smart, first....you picked the wrong guy. Second you did not got out when you had the chance (me telling you about the trolling/karma thing)
SO......
is this why i got the bad karma>\? because I asked why this was on the forum
I cannot think of anything else I said or asked that was wrong.
If this is how you treat people here...fuck me...im out
Just sell my shit on silk road and stay away from this
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no Black83, that cannot be it. It was not me anyway !!
I only told this guy after so many insults that he should look what he was doing here
you never know the truth do you LOL
You call what you want to gather around your ''TRIBESMAN"" people who buy from you...tribesman??
again, are fucking 16yo?
Tribesman, trolling is a PR stunt you say. Are you for real ????????
You are so ignorant you are not even able to answer my message about you trolling.
How stupid it is, how stupid to want to get KARMA.
Not a reaction from this very ''intelligent'' young internetbusiness man ....trolling is what he does best.
But, as you can read its for PR reasons....Jesussss I thought I saw it all.
ALWAYS ONE MORE IMBECILE THAN YOU COUNTED ON
I said it before and do it again
Are you for real? your customers ....TRIBESMAN?
trolling to make a good business, man, you are to weird
OKAY, THIS MAKES SENSE, YOU SAY>>>>> by informing you that stuff like this (- J added this- TROLLING) is a PR(public relations) stunt.
I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish.
Entertain folks? you are on a SR forum discussing fees for vendors....duh?
Get money to make me ! look foolish...ARE YOU FOR REAL?
Sorry, you need help and fast.
HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU ARE NOT HIDING BECAUSE YOU SOUND TO WEIRD MAN.
To sum it up, you say ....
Trolling is for fun, to get karma so i know people like me. I even ask for it in my messages.
No karma then I feel neglected and start to do stupid things to get it anyway.
My customers are my TRIBESMAN, we are at war and with me (the lord of course LOL) my TRIBESMAN are going to rule the drug world (or something like that LOL)
You are very successful and quote feedback to show that at least one think you are fantastic.
If you don't get your way you start to troll some more ( a reaction is taking bait and is -I think according to the/your rules- making you more the great troller or something like this ha ha ha) but the problem is what is brought up against you there is no way you can talk you way out of it.
You look like the little boy you actually are who is so insecure that he need his internetfriends to vote for him, hug him, love him.
UPDATE its not real, its a virtual world.
Your friends are not your friends, they have an sellers account on SR or are buying dope on SR.
You are here, the big internet guru, the young internet hero who knows how to fuck - innocent- people because nobody can touch you....you think:-p
You are not so smart, first....you picked the wrong guy. Second you did not got out when you had the chance (me telling you about the trolling/karma thing)
SO......
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$500 is a fair price for a vendor account. Hell any respectable drug dealer has an extra $500. It helps keep nubs from opening accounts!
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Your the one looking foolish posting weird info all over then.... Misdirection my ass.
I already addressed your "anti trolling remarks" by informing you that stuff like this is a PR(public relations) stunt. I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish. You on the other hand only look foolish.
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you never know the truth do you LOL
You call what you want to gather around your ''TRIBESMAN"" people who buy from you...tribesman??
again, are fucking 16yo?
Tribesman, trolling is a PR stunt you say. Are you for real ????????
You are so ignorant you are not even able to answer my message about you trolling.
How stupid it is, how stupid to want to get KARMA.
Not a reaction from this very ''intelligent'' young internetbusiness man ....trolling is what he does best.
But, as you can read its for PR reasons....Jesussss I thought I saw it all.
ALWAYS ONE MORE IMBECILE THAN YOU COUNTED ON
I said it before and do it again
Are you for real? your customers ....TRIBESMAN?
trolling to make a good business, man, you are to weird
OKAY, THIS MAKES SENSE, YOU SAY>>>>> by informing you that stuff like this (- J added this- TROLLING) is a PR(public relations) stunt.
I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish.
Entertain folks? you are on a SR forum discussing fees for vendors....duh?
Get money to make me ! look foolish...ARE YOU FOR REAL?
Sorry, you need help and fast.
HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU ARE NOT HIDING BECAUSE YOU SOUND TO WEIRD MAN.
To sum it up, you say ....
Trolling is for fun, to get karma so i know people like me. I even ask for it in my messages.
No karma then I feel neglected and start to do stupid things to get it anyway.
My customers are my TRIBESMAN, we are at war and with me (the lord of course LOL) my TRIBESMAN are going to rule the drug world (or something like that LOL)
You are very successful and quote feedback to show that at least one think you are fantastic.
If you don't get your way you start to troll some more ( a reaction is taking bait and is -I think according to the/your rules- making you more the great troller or something like this ha ha ha) but the problem is what is brought up against you there is no way you can talk you way out of it.
You look like the little boy you actually are who is so insecure that he need his internetfriends to vote for him, hug him, love him.
UPDATE its not real, its a virtual world.
Your friends are not your friends, they have an sellers account on SR or are buying dope on SR.
You are here, the big internet guru, the young internet hero who knows how to fuck - innocent- people because nobody can touch you....you think:-p
You are not so smart, first....you picked the wrong guy. Second you did not got out when you had the chance (me telling you about the trolling/karma thing)
SO......
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I wonder why you call your customers tribesman Bluevail, nice story though
New here and really like to know and learn from an old pro like you.
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Most people seem to think in this thread, that it's better to have FEW BIG vendors here, than a lot of SMALL. Therefore it's good to have high vendor-fees.
IMHO if we go down this road, the possibility is very high, that we will end up having "monopolies" and "cartels", same like IRL! And this is NEVER EVER good for the customer.
The equation: small vendor = scammer / big vendor = good dady isn't the reality I've learned here. I see how the TOP-Vendors here (at least in the coke-section) do dirty tricks & shadow marketing all day long...
So I would plead for quite the opposite: enable small vendors to come in here! Or otherwise we will end up having some BIG DEALERS here (I think we already have) which are connected behind the scenes, so they could manipulate the whole thing. And this is the moment, when this community will fall apart!
GREED always secures it's own destruction and the subject which is exercising it.
Hulk
this I totally agree with.
I have the idea that already a few are trying to keep as many out as they can. You see them here on the forum trying to figure out how to scare them off if you read their comments.
They think they are smart but the more vendors the more people will be satisfied customers and vendors have to be on their toes to keep up quality and service so everybody wins.
By treating the new ones wrong, being rude, trolling or not want to help the slightest bit they try to scare them of and often that works I think.
A new vendor who try to see here on the forum what it is all about is being scrutinized for a simple question.
I said it before, all those ''old'' vendors knew everything the minute they started and never asked a question that was not already asked/answered?
If somebody asks and I know the answer and be able to help why shouldn't I? I be here anyway at that time for whatever reason.
Anyway....the more the merrier
The fee is not to high but there could be an other system if it only is to keep out scammers.
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BLUEVAIL wrote this
Your the one looking foolish posting weird info all over then.... Misdirection my ass.
I already addressed your "anti trolling remarks" by informing you that stuff like this is a PR(public relations) stunt. I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish. You on the other hand only look foolish.
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JESSE answer
You call what you want to gather around your ''TRIBESMAN"" people who buy from you...tribesman??
again, are fucking 16yo?
Tribesman, trolling is a PR stunt you say. Are you for real ????????
You are so ignorant you are not even able to answer my message about you trolling.
How stupid it is, how stupid to want to get KARMA.
Not a reaction from this very ''intelligent'' young internetbusiness man ....trolling is what he does best.
But, as you can read its for PR reasons....Jesussss I thought I saw it all.
ALWAYS ONE MORE IMBECILE THAN YOU COUNTED ON
I said it before and do it again
Are you for real? your customers ....TRIBESMAN?
trolling to make a good business, man, you are to weird
OKAY, THIS MAKES SENSE, YOU SAY>>>>> by informing you that stuff like this (- J added this- TROLLING) is a PR(public relations) stunt.
I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish.
Entertain folks? you are on a SR forum discussing fees for vendors....duh?
Get money to make me ! look foolish...ARE YOU FOR REAL?
Sorry, you need help and fast.
HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU ARE NOT HIDING BECAUSE YOU SOUND TO WEIRD MAN.
To sum it up, you say ....
Trolling is for fun, to get karma so i know people like me. I even ask for it in my messages.
No karma then I feel neglected and start to do stupid things to get it anyway.
My customers are my TRIBESMAN, we are at war and with me (the lord of course LOL) my TRIBESMAN are going to rule the drug world (or something like that LOL)
You are very successful and quote feedback to show that at least one think you are fantastic.
If you don't get your way you start to troll some more ( a reaction is taking bait and is -I think according to the/your rules- making you more the great troller or something like this ha ha ha) but the problem is what is brought up against you there is no way you can talk you way out of it.
You look like the little boy you actually are who is so insecure that he need his internetfriends to vote for him, hug him, love him.
UPDATE its not real, its a virtual world.
Your friends are not your friends, they have an sellers account on SR or are buying dope on SR.
You are here, the big internet guru, the young internet hero who knows how to fuck - innocent- people because nobody can touch you....you think:-p
You are not so smart, first....you picked the wrong guy. Second you did not got out when you had the chance (me telling you about the trolling/karma thing)
SO......
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This is a good example of one (with some ''friends'') who try to scare some people away.
I have the feeling they act like school kids. love to bully and live in their dreamworld where customers are TRIBESMAN. They see karma as a real thing, try to get as much as possible. Why...? I explained above.
quote: stuff like this (Jesse added: trolling) is a PR(public relations) stunt. I do this to get more clicks on my signature and to entertain folks. I get money when I make you look foolish. You on the other hand only look foolish. end quote
So, in order to get ''clicks'' he fucks with people, make fools of them and he thinks he get money doing so.
And as an excuse he say he does it to ....yes?...ENTERTAIN folks.....
Remind you this is the SR forum where people look for answers, ideas, share experiences etc.
Perfectly innocent people just looking/posting on the forum.
Making the slightest mistake will get you scrutinized.
I hate to see the way they act here anonymously and the thought of how they would be in real life or in school as the bullies.
They are the ones responsible for the shootings, the suicides.
Every week or month at least another victim of those cowards who have a nose/sense for the -what they call- weaker ones but who are in general just the very smart/intelligent ones.
They get there self esteem from the fear and sadness they bring to others.
Because a coward here was/is that in real life to.
But again, what can you do when a grown man calls his customers tribesman like a 14/16yo., quote their feedback as if that is something special, want to rule and need karma to feel important.
They can only go as far as we let them.
I won't take their shit, hope others are not too.
Only if nobody stands up they can go on. I will never stay down !!
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$500 is not a large fee to open a vendor's account IMO. Regardless of the size of the vendor's operation, if you can't afford a $500 start-up fee, your never going to last. I must say black83, based on what you have posted, you are no where near ready to open a vending account. You also don't seem to have the the knowledge or skills to maintain your security, including both yours and your customer's sensitive information. Most importantly though, will be your ability to retain your anonymity. The skills required to do this aren't too hard to learn, but it's vitally important you understand and implement them correctly for all concerned. Don't want to sound rude, just being honest.
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$500 is not a large fee to open a vendor's account IMO. Regardless of the size of the vendor's operation, if you can't afford a $500 start-up fee, your never going to last. I must say black83, based on what you have posted, you are no where near ready to open a vending account. You also don't seem to have the the knowledge or skills to maintain your security, including both yours and your customer's sensitive information. Most importantly though, will be your ability to retain your anonymity. The skills required to do this aren't too hard to learn, but it's vitally important you understand and implement them correctly for all concerned. Don't want to sound rude, just being honest.
Sorry mate, but you have absolutely no clue what or who I am.
Just try to see what is going on here and try to figure out who is okay and who is not.
Trust me....so much scum here.
Selling/vendor for a year now so.... I know what I do, don't you worry :-).
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Just about 25 minutes ago could log in (needed 3x the login field name, pass and code.
Jesse I hope your using the correct site - silkroadvb5piz3r.onion - and not the phished site! The phished always asks for Username, Passcode and PIN, regular site usually doesn't ask for PIN unless major problems.
Unfortunately you have no clue what TOR or whatever I have/use.
I finally downloaded new Tor bundle today for the update at torproject.org and seems to be running slightly faster. It has the exact same version name as the previous for some reason, but you'll notice it is 1 MB larger. The other thing is, is your PC a bit slow? :-\ If you have trouble with other sites loading on Tor, maybe that's the problem. If it's just SR and SR Forums, then maybe not. IDK. (I'm just musing here.)
btw, Jesse is a girl's name. It's not "sir" lol ::) :-X ???
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$500 is not a large fee to open a vendor's account IMO. Regardless of the size of the vendor's operation, if you can't afford a $500 start-up fee, your never going to last. I must say black83, based on what you have posted, you are no where near ready to open a vending account. You also don't seem to have the the knowledge or skills to maintain your security, including both yours and your customer's sensitive information. Most importantly though, will be your ability to retain your anonymity. The skills required to do this aren't too hard to learn, but it's vitally important you understand and implement them correctly for all concerned. Don't want to sound rude, just being honest.
Sorry mate, but you have absolutely no clue what or who I am.
Just try to see what is going on here and try to figure out who is okay and who is not.
Trust me....so much scum here.
Selling/vendor for a year now so.... I know what I do, don't you worry :-).
Why do you choose to browse the forum inconspicuously, trying to gauge what others are like, instead of promoting your business and the products you sell under your true vending name? This is the marketing hub for SR and many vendors promote their wares here, and do so successfully. I can see where your coming from however promoting your business and increasing your customer base would take precedence IMO. This place is full of idiots and is far from the great place it once was. Glad to hear you know what your doing and I'm not worried in the slightest.