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Title: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 01:07 pm
Hi guys,

This past weekend I tried acid for the first time, having bought 5 Hofmann's (110ug) and 5 Mayan Calendars (180ug) from JoR.

Long story short, I started off with one Hofmann before moving on to two a couple of hours later. Moving on I ended up taking 3 Mayan Calendars then 3 Hofmann's two hours later the next day, and nothing. I didn't have any affects, mood changes, anything. Didn't have a raised heart beat, didn't sweat, didn't have any dilated pupils whatsoever. So that's appox. 870ug and nada.

I did this alone because I started off slow, so I don't have anyone else' reaction. I know its said that LSD doesn't work on everything, but having absolutely nothing?!?

I finished off the evening with some MDMA (like 8-10 hours later), which was great. But to say I'm bummed is an understatement and is leaving me with the big question of why?

Anyone have any ideas?  ???
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: God Damn Bats on June 11, 2013, 01:50 pm
Mate LSD takes 5 days to kick in, but what a kick in you're going to have !
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 03:24 pm
Mate LSD takes 5 days to kick in, but what a kick in you're going to have !

Actually LOL'd.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: masin on June 11, 2013, 03:27 pm
5 days :D
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: soviet on June 11, 2013, 03:29 pm
Maybe a crappy batch.

Maybe the blotters came into contact with a lot of heat along the way.

Maybe you're immune.

Buy a vial of LSD and drink it just to be sure.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: flettino on June 11, 2013, 03:32 pm
Sounds like you got ripped off man, not much you can do about it now. you should of got an regent testing kit, then tested them. and sent a picture of the test to Silkroad staff or the seller.

Maybe the seller doesn't know there duds, so i'd still contact him.

Good luck
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 03:38 pm
Sounds like you got ripped off man, not much you can do about it now. you should of got an regent testing kit, then tested them. and sent a picture of the test to Silkroad staff or the seller.

Maybe the seller doesn't know there duds, so i'd still contact him.

Good luck

Yeah I doubt that though as they were from two orders a week or so apart from a top 1% seller, both from different chemists. I kept them in their vacuum sealed foil envelopes in a dark place within a book before opening them together.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 03:41 pm
Maybe a crappy batch.

Maybe the blotters came into contact with a lot of heat along the way.

Maybe you're immune.

Buy a vial of LSD and drink it just to be sure.

I might try a vial just to be sure. Really hoping its an experience that I can join in on!
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Tessellated on June 11, 2013, 03:43 pm
Lots of things can prevent LSD from working.

Are you on anti-psycotics or anti-depressants? Have you recently been doing a lot of MDMA or DMT? Were you sleep deprived?

I take LSD fairly often and if I have been on other drugs recently or have been not sleeping right it has much less effect. I know someone on anti-depressants who can each 3-5 hits and only have a slight high feeling.

Don't assume you were ripped off like others are saying. I know from the liquid I take that the exact same dose can have dramatically different effects depending on the state of your mind and body and your surroundings.

It is a strange drug.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 03:48 pm
Lots of things can prevent LSD from working.

Are you on anti-psycotics or anti-depressants? Have you recently been doing a lot of MDMA or DMT? Were you sleep deprived?

I take LSD fairly often and if I have been on other drugs recently or have been not sleeping right it has much less effect. I know someone on anti-depressants who can each 3-5 hits and only have a slight high feeling.

Don't assume you were ripped off like others are saying. I know from the liquid I take that the exact same dose can have dramatically different effects depending on the state of your mind and body and your surroundings.

It is a strange drug.

I've been down a little of late and did have a small amount of MDMA the day before but aren't on any anti-depressants. I do take Metformin (Gloucofarge) and use a Nasonex nasal spray however.

Interesting note about liquid LSD though.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Tessellated on June 11, 2013, 03:52 pm
I would suggest eliminating as many variables as you can to figure it out.

Do no other drugs for 5 or so days(weed is fine of course) then after a good night's sleep try it with a friend who is familiar with LSD. Take it all at once, don't wait between doses.

If you still don't get high and neither does your friend then it is probably the tabs. Tap water, light and heat can damage these tabs.

If you don't get high and your friend does then it is probably just you.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 04:10 pm
I would suggest eliminating as many variables as you can to figure it out.

Do no other drugs for 5 or so days(weed is fine of course) then after a good night's sleep try it with a friend who is familiar with LSD. Take it all at once, don't wait between doses.

If you still don't get high and neither does your friend then it is probably the tabs. Tap water, light and heat can damage these tabs.

If you don't get high and your friend does then it is probably just you.

Thanks. Yeah I'll try that. I really didn't think a drug like LSD could be affected in such seemingly simple ways (sleep, other drugs, etc.) - I did get a good night's sleep as was careful to drink bottled water only though, buts its definitely worth trying again.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Rocketman91 on June 11, 2013, 04:28 pm
How did you take the LSD?
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 04:33 pm
How did you take the LSD?

One lot I placed printed side down on the top of my tongue, the second lot below the tongue. Both were kept in my mouth for a good five minutes before swallowing.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: brauerei on June 11, 2013, 04:43 pm
I normally hold it under my tongue for about 20min-30mins, send me your lsd i will test and report back lol
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Rocketman91 on June 11, 2013, 04:47 pm
How strange. The way I normally do it is leave it under my tongue, rather than on my tongue, for about 20 minutes and then swallowing. This method has always worked for me. It's worried me slightly as I've just received 5x Mayan Swiss Blotters from JOR and am due to try them tomorrow night.

I'll report back on how I find them, But if I'm honest I very much doubt you got sold fakes from a popular vendor with such good reputation.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on June 11, 2013, 05:01 pm
Also don't drink any water while the tabs are in your mouth! That will ruin it right there. Also don't dose the next day. You will have to double your dose to get the same effect.

~PsychedelicSphere
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 05:45 pm
How strange. The way I normally do it is leave it under my tongue, rather than on my tongue, for about 20 minutes and then swallowing. This method has always worked for me. It's worried me slightly as I've just received 5x Mayan Swiss Blotters from JOR and am due to try them tomorrow night.

I'll report back on how I find them, But if I'm honest I very much doubt you got sold fakes from a popular vendor with such good reputation.

Please do.. I very much doubt that JoR would sell fakes.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 11, 2013, 05:48 pm
Also don't drink any water while the tabs are in your mouth! That will ruin it right there. Also don't dose the next day. You will have to double your dose to get the same effect.

~PsychedelicSphere

I think I did drink some bottled water after about 10 minutes for one and a sip of diet coke shortly after the other (as it was particularly bitter/acidic).

Maybe I just totally fucked up but not keeping it on my tongue for longer enough and having a drink. I did also have a small amount of MDMA the day before.
I still find it hard to believe that after 6 tabs nothing at all happened. But I'll try again in a few weeks and see what the deal is  :)
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on June 11, 2013, 05:55 pm
That's probably what did it. LSD is destroyed on contact with chlorine and most water has chlorine in it! Wait about a week, preferably two, take a tab or two, leave it in your mouth for a while, don't drink anything. Swallow it and I'm sure you will trip. Avoid other drugs besides weed.

~PsychedelicSphere
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: God Damn Bats on June 11, 2013, 05:59 pm
Surely having a drink of water would not fuck it up completely
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on June 11, 2013, 06:02 pm
Surely having a drink of water would not fuck it up completely
Just depends on how much chlorine is in the water.

~PsychedelicSphere
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: soviet on June 12, 2013, 04:30 pm
The MDMA you took the day before probably did it.

How strange. The way I normally do it is leave it under my tongue, rather than on my tongue, for about 20 minutes and then swallowing. This method has always worked for me. It's worried me slightly as I've just received 5x Mayan Swiss Blotters from JOR and am due to try them tomorrow night.

I'll report back on how I find them, But if I'm honest I very much doubt you got sold fakes from a popular vendor with such good reputation.

So how'd it go RocketMan? I'm curious because I have one of JoR's Mayan blotters as well.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: abitpeckish on June 12, 2013, 07:00 pm
Are you on SSRIs? If so, that won't help. Stop fucking with seratonin-centered drugs for 3 weeks, then take the remaining 2 Mayans.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 12, 2013, 07:34 pm
Are you on SSRIs? If so, that won't help. Stop fucking with seratonin-centered drugs for 3 weeks, then take the remaining 2 Mayans.

I'm not on any SSRIs - I didn't think MDMA would cancel out an LSD trip, so that's what I'll do, wait a few weeks and give it another shot.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Rocketman91 on June 14, 2013, 03:13 pm
Tried the mayans Wednesday night. Had 1 and a quarter, so about 225ug. Felt it within an hour. Really strong and clean stuff and lasted for a good 10 - 12 hours.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: JabbatheSlut on June 14, 2013, 03:43 pm
How were you storing the acid?

Remember that LSD does not like light or heat, so it is best to keep it dark and extremely cold.

I found this out the hard way in my teens after returning from California to Sydney and then carrying a bunch of blotters around in my inside jacket pocket.  Turned a whole bunch of lovely Owsley acid into paper placebos.

LSD degrades (incredibly) fast when exposed to any heat at all, even room temperature.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: sickroadleaks. on June 14, 2013, 03:58 pm
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Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 14, 2013, 10:02 pm
How were you storing the acid?

Remember that LSD does not like light or heat, so it is best to keep it dark and extremely cold.

I found this out the hard way in my teens after returning from California to Sydney and then carrying a bunch of blotters around in my inside jacket pocket.  Turned a whole bunch of lovely Owsley acid into paper placebos.

LSD degrades (incredibly) fast when exposed to any heat at all, even room temperature.

They were kept within a book, inside the vacuum foiled packages they came it. The book was kept in a dark place but at room temp.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: whatsmyname on June 14, 2013, 10:57 pm
I dont know what this is I see alot of people saying LSD no effect or to that nature.
As well as alot of this and that theories as to why by sellers.
I have done a lot of blotter in my day. Bought big sheets. Right in a public park it was like a supermarket.
Never not tripped or a little trip always was good. Trails colors and laughing like hell at the smallest things.

One time me and my girlfriend pulled into this park late at time to trip. Pulled off the road and down by a pond.
later a cop drives thru park shines a light and sees us.

I tell my girl act normal!.
Was trippin but you straighten up when danger approaches.

I say Hi officers.
Cop say to me what are you doing here?.
I had my arm around girlfriend.
I said We are nature lovers and enjoying the nice evening by the pond together.

I was not drunk was trippin.
he just looked at my lisence and said you cant be in park after dark.

he backed out and waitied on the road.

I had trouble getting out i backed into a couple trees backing out
and could not stop laughing.
Cop followed us out of park and that was that.

Only time did not trip was when We bought a hit of window pane acid.
As soon as the money exchanged guy took off.
Bit it and it was plastic. Gave chase.
Guy ran like hell jumped over park spiked iron fence and into his hood.

That LDS did not work
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on June 15, 2013, 03:09 am
I dont know what this is I see alot of people saying LSD no effect or to that nature.
As well as alot of this and that theories as to why by sellers.
I have done a lot of blotter in my day. Bought big sheets. Right in a public park it was like a supermarket.
Never not tripped or a little trip always was good. Trails colors and laughing like hell at the smallest things.

One time me and my girlfriend pulled into this park late at time to trip. Pulled off the road and down by a pond.
later a cop drives thru park shines a light and sees us.

I tell my girl act normal!.
Was trippin but you straighten up when danger approaches.

I say Hi officers.
Cop say to me what are you doing here?.
I had my arm around girlfriend.
I said We are nature lovers and enjoying the nice evening by the pond together.

I was not drunk was trippin.
he just looked at my lisence and said you cant be in park after dark.

he backed out and waitied on the road.

I had trouble getting out i backed into a couple trees backing out
and could not stop laughing.
Cop followed us out of park and that was that.

Only time did not trip was when We bought a hit of window pane acid.
As soon as the money exchanged guy took off.
Bit it and it was plastic. Gave chase.
Guy ran like hell jumped over park spiked iron fence and into his hood.

That LDS did not work

 ;D  Seriously?  The cop didn't think anything about you backing into trees?  I would not be able to handle the fuzz on LSD,  or drive for that matter.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Kalli on June 15, 2013, 03:27 am
LSD not working.... grr need a supplier of it as well, looks like im going to have to be extra careful ordering it.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: MollyBaba on June 15, 2013, 03:50 am
Thats wierd, i took 2 of JOR's hoffmans, smoked some bud, and i was tripping hard, visuals everywhere, mindfucked lol.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Kalli on June 15, 2013, 04:25 am
Check out the avengers forum if you need recommendations for legit lsd. personally I go for tessellated's product.

Thanks for the info will go check it out :)
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: karensupreme on June 15, 2013, 04:36 am
Hey OP,

I understand where you're coming from. I took 100 micrograms on my first trip and while it was interesting, it wasn't as intense or wild as I was expecting. To be honest, I've gotten higher off plain old marijuana.

My second trip which was a few weeks later, I took 200 micrograms on an empty stomach. That was fun and the visuals started to kick in slightly but again, nothing in any extreme sense.

A few weeks after that I bought 500 micrograms and took it slowly throughout the day and....nothing. I mean there was the faintest alteration of perception but from what I've found, as far as my body chemistry is considered, LSD doesn't build on itself. I either have to take my intended amount all at once or I am not going to bother with it.

LSD, like any drug, like what so many wise posters have previously stated, is dependent on the user's particular make-up but its also affected by things like heat. The postal process is brutal and I think about all the hot trucks, hot planes, atmospheric radiation, ground tremors and machines LSD must pass through before it reaches me and it is no wonder that sometimes, its just not that effective.

Welp, its been fun. Time to chase Falkor!
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 15, 2013, 04:41 am
LSD degrades (incredibly) fast when exposed to any heat at all, even room temperature.

You realize people stored LSD in the trunks of cars and traveled across the country a lot during the 60s and 70s.  You realize that mail gets very hot in trucks and shit and it has been distributed through the mail for at least 15 years?
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: phalNOP on June 15, 2013, 04:44 am
I finished off the evening with some MDMA (like 8-10 hours later), which was great. But to say I'm bummed is an understatement and is leaving me with the big question of why?

Anyone have any ideas?  ???

How much MDMA had you taken leading up to ingesting lsd?
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: AlteredConscious on June 17, 2013, 06:59 am
I hold it under my tongue till it starts to fall apart and then I swallow it.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: RFTS on June 17, 2013, 08:41 am
Hmm this is interesting, I ordered some of JOR's a few weeks back. While I took 2 and definitely did trip, my friend who also took 2 said he felt nothing...while I realize this information doesn't really help I hope it's worth something.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: fije on June 20, 2013, 08:43 pm
Well, its OP here. Reporting back.

I bought two more tabs from a different vendor. Haven't used MDMA in over a week, and took two tabs as soon as I picked up the package (within 20 minutes). Left them under my tongue for 20 minutes or so, basically to the point where they disintegrated. Didn't drink anything.

And guess what? Nothing. I can only assume I am some kind of bionic experiment.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Tessellated on June 21, 2013, 03:01 pm
Well, its OP here. Reporting back.

I bought two more tabs from a different vendor. Haven't used MDMA in over a week, and took two tabs as soon as I picked up the package (within 20 minutes). Left them under my tongue for 20 minutes or so, basically to the point where they disintegrated. Didn't drink anything.

And guess what? Nothing. I can only assume I am some kind of bionic experiment.

That sucks. I know a person who is not effected at all by LSD as well, this person has found great wonder in DMT.

I know it is not the same thing, but it really is something amazing.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: phalNOP on June 23, 2013, 11:51 pm
Hey OP,

I understand where you're coming from. I took 100 micrograms on my first trip and while it was interesting, it wasn't as intense or wild as I was expecting. To be honest, I've gotten higher off plain old marijuana.

HUH?
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: DxM on June 24, 2013, 12:27 am
What's the deal with water destroying the acid? *confused*

I had acid on a blotter and directly swallowed it with water, the trip worked normally...
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: Charactarantula on June 24, 2013, 12:39 am
Hi guys,

This past weekend I tried acid for the first time, having bought 5 Hofmann's (110ug) and 5 Mayan Calendars (180ug) from JoR.

Long story short, I started off with one Hofmann before moving on to two a couple of hours later. Moving on I ended up taking 3 Mayan Calendars then 3 Hofmann's two hours later the next day, and nothing. I didn't have any affects, mood changes, anything. Didn't have a raised heart beat, didn't sweat, didn't have any dilated pupils whatsoever. So that's appox. 870ug and nada.

I did this alone because I started off slow, so I don't have anyone else' reaction. I know its said that LSD doesn't work on everything, but having absolutely nothing?!?

I finished off the evening with some MDMA (like 8-10 hours later), which was great. But to say I'm bummed is an understatement and is leaving me with the big question of why?

Anyone have any ideas?  ???-

Well your problem is. You started off with 100 ugs. then took more 2 hours later, by then the other blotters become inert. That's like eating another bag of mushies after tripping for two hours, your tolerance is built up and it makes it a waste. Then that also explains why they didn't work the next day either, as your tolerance was even higher after finishing through your previous "trip". When taking LSD you want to ensure you are taking the dose you want in one go.
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: soviet on July 01, 2013, 06:11 am
What's the deal with water destroying the acid? *confused*

I had acid on a blotter and directly swallowed it with water, the trip worked normally...

The chlorine in tap water reacts with LSD and destroys it. Fluoride and other trace amounts of chemicals in water may have the same effect. You probably got lucky and had pure water. I wouldn't risk taking LSD with water again since even bottled water may have small amounts of chemicals that can destabilize the LSD molecule.   
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: airblaster1 on July 01, 2013, 06:24 am
Lots of things can prevent LSD from working.

Are you on anti-psycotics or anti-depressants? Have you recently been doing a lot of MDMA or DMT? Were you sleep deprived?

I take LSD fairly often and if I have been on other drugs recently or have been not sleeping right it has much less effect. I know someone on anti-depressants who can each 3-5 hits and only have a slight high feeling.

Don't assume you were ripped off like others are saying. I know from the liquid I take that the exact same dose can have dramatically different effects depending on the state of your mind and body and your surroundings.

It is a strange drug.

i agree, after doing molly maybe more then i should be, and just finished off a gram of DMT,  doing lsd last week was different then before, i didnt notice any real change for about 4 hours then only a slight change for maybe an hour, and i know its good acid, but i figured it was from the other drugs making it dulled, besides last time i did DMT i had a weird breakthrough of partying with these asain girls lol (idk why) but at the near end they looked desgusted with me and threw all the chemical drugs that ive been doing lately (M1,molly,lsd) right at me and they swirled in turning to toxic waste and pouring on me, maybe the spirit entities were mad with me, anyway i figured the lsd not working because of them, idk
Title: Re: LSD didn't work
Post by: DxM on July 02, 2013, 07:58 pm
What's the deal with water destroying the acid? *confused*

I had acid on a blotter and directly swallowed it with water, the trip worked normally...

The chlorine in tap water reacts with LSD and destroys it. Fluoride and other trace amounts of chemicals in water may have the same effect. You probably got lucky and had pure water. I wouldn't risk taking LSD with water again since even bottled water may have small amounts of chemicals that can destabilize the LSD molecule.   

It was bottled water indeed :P

Thank you for reply, its good to know this for the next time :)