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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Th0r on July 11, 2012, 10:23 am

Title: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: Th0r on July 11, 2012, 10:23 am
First tried 2CB 2 weeks ago and I took 35MG oral. I got some nice visuals of it but not overly so. I was still able to if I tried concentrate on things and could 'snap' out of it whenever I wanted. It was only really when I was looking at TV/Phone that then visuals would start slowly creeping up and the longer i looked more intense they would be & could do any normal things.

This weekend I railed 30mg 5 hours after taking 190mg of MDMA & redosing with 150mg (1 hour 45 in) and oh my, so different. Full on trip. Crazy lights / peoples faces changing slightly & would have no chance of doing normal things very easily lol. When the TV would change channel or something I would snap out of it for only 2-3 seconds before fully back into it. From reading it would seem that 35mg oral should of been quite a high dose but I didn't get ANYWHERE near the effects is this normal or how much oral would I need to get the same sort of effects or does MDMA in some way enhance the effects?

The pain of snorting it wasn't too bad (it hurt but was well worth it and was expecting worse after reading what other people said) it burned for maybe a minute or so but then it was fine. I did throw up about 10minutes in while coming up which is unusual for me. (Never been sick on anything else) and didn't feel sick at all swallowing it.

So unsure if I should just try 20mg snorted next or to try higher dose oral but with looking at the dosages on erowid etc I think I should of got more from 35mg and I don't want to try taking 40-45 and it ends up being too much.
Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 11, 2012, 05:01 pm
First tried 2CB 2 weeks ago and I took 35MG oral. I got some nice visuals of it but not overly so. I was still able to if I tried concentrate on things and could 'snap' out of it whenever I wanted. It was only really when I was looking at TV/Phone that then visuals would start slowly creeping up and the longer i looked more intense they would be & could do any normal things.

This weekend I railed 30mg 5 hours after taking 190mg of MDMA & redosing with 150mg (1 hour 45 in) and oh my, so different. Full on trip. Crazy lights / peoples faces changing slightly & would have no chance of doing normal things very easily lol. When the TV would change channel or something I would snap out of it for only 2-3 seconds before fully back into it. From reading it would seem that 35mg oral should of been quite a high dose but I didn't get ANYWHERE near the effects is this normal or how much oral would I need to get the same sort of effects or does MDMA in some way enhance the effects?

The pain of snorting it wasn't too bad (it hurt but was well worth it and was expecting worse after reading what other people said) it burned for maybe a minute or so but then it was fine. I did throw up about 10minutes in while coming up which is unusual for me. (Never been sick on anything else) and didn't feel sick at all swallowing it.

So unsure if I should just try 20mg snorted next or to try higher dose oral but with looking at the dosages on erowid etc I think I should of got more from 35mg and I don't want to try taking 40-45 and it ends up being too much.

Shulgin spoke very highly of 2c-b on an MDMA comedown, claiming it was a brilliant and therapeutic combo.  It sounds like you had a good experience on the two. 

35mg oral is a pretty hefty dosage and 30mg intransal is no joke at all.  Assuming you had clean 2c-b this also shows just how benevolent 2c-b really is.  A 35mg oral dose of 2c-e would likely have slapped you silly, and 30mg of 2c-t-7 going up your nose can kill you. 

What exactly were you expecting from 2c-b?  It's not the most visual of the 2c's: in my experience both -e and -t-7 give you a better visual experience.  OTOH, I find it the most euphoric and easygoing of the 2c-s, with a pleasant glow instead of an uncomfortable body load and a generally nice headspace. It's also one of the most forgiving phenethylamines and, for me, one of the least likely to give you a bad trip.
Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: Th0r on July 12, 2012, 10:11 am
I got it on SR from Ivory who is pretty known for having great stuff and all the reviews for it say the same.

Its not that i expected something different to what I got its more the fact that I enjoy it oral and it was nice like you described a nice glowing / happy feelings but just railing it was so much more intense and felt more like a full on trip and I wouldn't be able to perform many tasks at all compared to when I did it orally and I thought both were meant to be on the 'higher' side of dosages but yet what I experienced seemed like a mild dose and a high dose and I would of expected the effects to feel a lot more alike than they did.  I can't remember if I had eaten before taking it maybe that would of made the difference thats all i can think off.

I have yet to try any of the other 2c's I do plan to but I really enjoy the 2cb both times.
Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 12, 2012, 01:59 pm
I got it on SR from Ivory who is pretty known for having great stuff and all the reviews for it say the same.

Its not that i expected something different to what I got its more the fact that I enjoy it oral and it was nice like you described a nice glowing / happy feelings but just railing it was so much more intense and felt more like a full on trip and I wouldn't be able to perform many tasks at all compared to when I did it orally and I thought both were meant to be on the 'higher' side of dosages but yet what I experienced seemed like a mild dose and a high dose and I would of expected the effects to feel a lot more alike than they did.  I can't remember if I had eaten before taking it maybe that would of made the difference thats all i can think off.

I have yet to try any of the other 2c's I do plan to but I really enjoy the 2cb both times.

Ivory's stuff has an excellent reputation so I'd assume that you had good 2c-b.  And as far as the effects of "mild" v. "high" dose go, the 2c-s are generally known for their steep dose/response curve.  In other words, a few mg can be the difference between a mildly altered state and "My walls are breathing." 

Another question: are you on any SSRIs or other psych meds? I know that SSRIs will seriously blunt an MDMA/methylone roll.  Not sure what they might do to 2c-b or other phenethylamines.
Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: Th0r on July 12, 2012, 03:08 pm
No I am on 0 medication and have only taken MDMA / Ketamine / Weed in the last month.

Both was measured on the same 0.001 scales so I would of hoped the dosage was at least close to right lol.

I think I may take 20mg Oral at the weekend and wait an hour and half and see how i come up and then can always re-dose by snorting with 5-10mg
Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: TheGrandWizard on July 12, 2012, 03:52 pm
No I am on 0 medication and have only taken MDMA / Ketamine / Weed in the last month.

Both was measured on the same 0.001 scales so I would of hoped the dosage was at least close to right lol.

I think I may take 20mg Oral at the weekend and wait an hour and half and see how i come up and then can always re-dose by snorting with 5-10mg

I actually like that method of taking 2c-b: an oral dose with a nasal bump works well for me.

Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: ahead on July 12, 2012, 07:13 pm
Can't imagine snorting 30mg 2c-b just because most batches usually burn my nose really bad, did it hurt when you snorted that much?
Title: Re: 2CB - Oral / insufflation
Post by: Th0r on July 13, 2012, 08:18 am
It hurts, but the pain is gone for me within a minute and like I said before well worth it :D from reading about tho lots of people really hate snorting it.