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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: tcobambientAgain on March 06, 2012, 05:55 am
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Interesting. I've been using MXE for about 3 months and never looked at the dosing amounts on Erowid.org. I've always just snorted it but apparently if you take it by putting it under your tongue you use quite a bit less. I know that the last few times I've been snorting over 100+ mg (probably around 120 - 150? Ordered a scale over the weekend and should have it this week) and the trips have been fucking awesome but I'm gonna check into taking it orally and according to Erowid I could have the same trip for about 40 - 50mg.
Anyone notice any differences when taking MXE orally? Are the trips the same as snorting? And can you really use so much less like the dosing chart says?
Methoxetamine Dosages
Sublingual / Buccal
( very tentative )
Threshold
3 - 10 mg
Light
8 - 25 mg
Common
15 - 50 mg
Strong
40+ mg
Methoxetamine Dosages
Insufflated
( very tentative )
Threshold
5 - 20 mg
Light
20 - 50 mg
Common
40 - 80 mg
Strong
100+ mg
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OK. Just dropped a hit under my tongue. Jesus, this tastes fucking horrible!
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I heard rectal works even better, if you don't mind bending over;)
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Wow! 100mg seems like a lot at one go. I usually start with about 25mg oral. I'm not big on snorting and I've never plugged the stuff. And just the thought of letting it dissolve under my tongue sounds horrible and it's not even one of the worst tasting RCs.
One of the things I like about MXE is that it stacks so well, meaning you can keep getting higher with repeated dosages, which is unlike most drugs from my experience.
I'm pretty cautious about taking large doses of any compound at one time but I'm risky with repeating doses. It's sort of my forte I guess. I've done well over 200mg of substances like 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt in one night and full grams after the course of a few days, just to explore the effects of tolerances. I've probably overdosed a dozen times over the last few decades but I'm reluctant to do too much at one time. You can't turn back once you dose.
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OK. Just dropped a hit under my tongue. Jesus, this tastes fucking horrible!
LOL! I'm sorry Tco, I don't mean to laugh. I just a have mental picture of your scrunched up face. You truly are a warrior.
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I snorted MXE on my very first use. Maybe no more than 80mg, not sure.
The effects were nice, lot's of fractals, but no M-hole.
But today if I were to do 80mg sublingually (even after a few months of regular use), then I believe I would OD.
20mg seems enough to take me near an M-hole.
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Due to the taste, I will simply not put it under my tongue!
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LOL! I'm sorry Tco, I don't mean to laugh. I just a have mental picture of your scrunched up face. You truly are a warrior.
LOL @ this + tco's user icon .... A TRUE warrior. Noble spirit. Knife between teeth. Party on, Wayne! :)
... Pretty much always lol@Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet though. . . . That scene. Oh man. Ohhh man.
Completely useless addition from me, I know, but I couldn't help it. Good stuff:)
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I drank a can of Coke midway through trying to let it sit under my tongue and I couldn't get the taste out of my mouth the whole night. My face was indeed scrunched up.
OK. My experiment with taking MXE orally last night. Um....I took about a 1/3 less than I usually snort and it is INFINITELY stronger! It took longer for the effects to hit though. I will say this. I had an extremely hallucinogenic trip where shit got out of control and I won't go into details but it was extremely unsettling for my wife. I will be much more careful when using it orally from now on.
Like I said I'm eyeballing everything right now until my scale arrives this week. I'd say I took somewhere around 40 or 50mg orally last night (I'm curious to weight it out when I get the scale to see how off I am on my measurements). Half of that would have been a nice trip. So I'd say (for me) about 1/5 or 1/6 of what I snort taking orally will get the job done.
Bottom line. Be careful taking MXE orally.
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I drank a can of Coke midway through trying to let it sit under my tongue and I couldn't get the taste out of my mouth the whole night. My face was indeed scrunched up.
OK. My experiment with taking MXE orally last night. Um....I took about a 1/3 less than I usually snort and it is INFINITELY stronger! It took longer for the effects to hit though. I will say this. I had an extremely hallucinogenic trip where shit got out of control and I won't go into details but it was extremely unsettling for my wife. I will be much more careful when using it orally from now on.
Like I said I'm eyeballing everything right now until my scale arrives this week. I'd say I took somewhere around 40 or 50mg orally last night (I'm curious to weight it out when I get the scale to see how off I am on my measurements). Half of that would have been a nice trip. So I'd say (for me) about 1/5 or 1/6 of what I snort taking orally will get the job done.
Bottom line. Be careful taking MXE orally.
I'm surprised to hear that oral was stronger than snorting. I was under the impression that insufflating always proved to have more immediate and powerful effects, along with needing considerably less to get the job done. But MXE is such a strange compound.
I'm really glad you're getting a scale. You need one especially when experimenting with RCs. I suggest purchasing 2 scales, one that measures .1g and another one for .01g. You can get each on Amazon for around $35 each. Eye-balling just doesn't cut it. I hate to see anyone get hurt.
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I'm surprised to hear that oral was stronger than snorting. I was under the impression that insufflating always proved to have more immediate and powerful effects, along with needing considerably less to get the job done. But MXE is such a strange compound.
I'm really glad you're getting a scale. You need one especially when experimenting with RCs. I suggest purchasing 2 scales, one that measures .1g and another one for .01g. You can get each on Amazon for around $35 each. Eye-balling just doesn't cut it. I hate to see anyone get hurt.
I was totally shocked at how much more powerful it was orally. It was a whole other level and it was such a much smaller amount.
I did order my scale from Amazon and it measures in .01 g. I just got some 2C-I in today and I really don't want to fuck around and eyeball that because I've heard just a slight difference can really mess you up.
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Whoa hey, oral =/= sublingual .... Absorption rates are way different for tissues under the tongue and in the stomach lining. Note the difference - it's very important :)
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Everyone is taking it under their tongue. I say fuuuuck that. It tastes bad enough snorting it. Wouldn't it fuck you up just the same as parachuting it? That would save that nasty taste you guys are talking about.
But anyway snorting it fucks me up to where I don't know what im doing. but I am forsure still having a blast ;D
Lol no need for me to take is orally atleast.
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Whoa hey, oral =/= sublingual .... Absorption rates are way different for tissues under the tongue and in the stomach lining. Note the difference - it's very important :)
You're right. I noticed that once I posted but failed to correct it. Sorry for the confusion.
But I thought that insufflation was more powerful than either oral or sublingual routes of administration while requiring less, but I don't know from experience.
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Umm I bought some really good MXE from a guy on SR (idk if its allowed to be said which account?) and i snorted 20 mg and I was knocked the fuck out. Keep in mind im a light weight skinny chicklet. This was after a stim binge thou.. I would say normal dose to fuck me up is 50 mg but i heard tolerance raises reallyyyy fast. Thats probably why yall have such a higher dose than me I started at like 20mg and dont do it that often... (snorted my next paragraph is a rant on how nasty it would be to eat/put under tounge.)
ya im with Dr K or whoever last posted MXE is nasty. Most powders tastes like mofo SHIT. after i snort and do a little snort of water to get it down the taste is gross as fuck. Under the tounge? rather snort it bro and use more. Dont get me started on MDPV taste.. i just had to lick a bunch up while i was snorting in emergency people walking in situation. My tounge and lips are burning. Its been 30 minutes. LOL.
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Whoa hey, oral =/= sublingual .... Absorption rates are way different for tissues under the tongue and in the stomach lining. Note the difference - it's very important :)
Thanks for the info. They didn't go into that in the Dose chart on Erowid. Do you know of a dosing chart as far as the difference between just taking it orally and sublingually? I was told by a few Dr's to take my benzos under the tongue because that's the most efficient way because of the vein under your tongue so I'm aware that there's a difference but didn't really think it through with the MXE.
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Everyone is taking it under their tongue. I say fuuuuck that. It tastes bad enough snorting it. Wouldn't it fuck you up just the same as parachuting it? That would save that nasty taste you guys are talking about.
But anyway snorting it fucks me up to where I don't know what im doing. but I am forsure still having a blast ;D
Lol no need for me to take is orally atleast.
Snorting works fine for me but I read the dosing chart and thought I'd give it a try under the tongue so that I would use a smaller amount and save money/product. Holy fuck, the amount that you need under the tongue is miniscule compared to snorting.
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Whoa hey, oral =/= sublingual .... Absorption rates are way different for tissues under the tongue and in the stomach lining. Note the difference - it's very important :)
But I thought that insufflation was more powerful than either oral or sublingual routes of administration while requiring less, but I don't know from experience.
Trust me, I was playing the role of lab rat last night and it's totally the opposite. I'd say to give it a shot one time but to be careful and use a seriously small amount. You'll want to take more because it took a really long time to kick in but don't redose (like a few hours, where snorting takes about 1/3 of the time to get you to your trip). Of course every persons body is different so what happened for me might not be the same to you. And of course I could be wrong on that and it could be a monster for everyone? I'd say to just be careful your first time taking it sublingually.
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Whoa hey, oral =/= sublingual .... Absorption rates are way different for tissues under the tongue and in the stomach lining. Note the difference - it's very important :)
Thanks for the info. They didn't go into that in the Dose chart on Erowid. Do you know of a dosing chart as far as the difference between just taking it orally and sublingually? I was told by a few Dr's to take my benzos under the tongue because that's the most efficient way because of the vein under your tongue so I'm aware that there's a difference but didn't really think it through with the MXE.
I don't know about that offhand but as far as I know this sort of thing is the case more often than not. Unfortunately Erowid doesn't really get into that sort of nuance.
I know this is a bit of a worthless answer but I thought I'd respond since you asked me a question. :) Anybody else out there in SR Weirdo land have a proper response for the gent?