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Title: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 05:03 am
What up everyone. I just wanna say that after trying 25i for the first time like a week ago, I was pleased. It was my first order from SR and I thought it was awesome. So i'm now thinking of getting more, but I noticed the vendor I ordered from last time is on vacation, so I searched more similar vendors, and noticed someone selling 25c-nbome. It is basically the same  exact price, and seems like it's exactly the same.

Does anyone here have experience with either one of these chemicals? I've done 25i, and I heard it's a little more on the dangerous side. I also heard 25c is safer than 25i. Erowid showed that 25i had more confirmed deaths from 25i.

So basically just feedback or knowledge on 25c and how they are similar/differ..difference in effects, body load ect. would be appreciated. I'm really curious to know if 25c is safer.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Ballzinator on August 28, 2013, 05:59 am
It's doubtful that some NBOMes are more or less safe than others. 25i is simply by far the most widely used.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 06:37 am
Does anyone here have experience with either one of these chemicals? I've done 25i, and I heard it's a little more on the dangerous side. I also heard 25c is safer than 25i. Erowid showed that 25i had more confirmed deaths from 25i.I'm really curious to know if 25c is safer.

This is accurate, 25I-NBOMe is much more dangerous because it carries the risk of seizures.  25C-NBOMe while still dangerous, doesn't involve that same risk - unless you really push the limit with the dosing.
By the end of the year 25I-NBOMe will be responsible for tens of thousands of hospitalizations, and hundreds of deaths.
I'd avoid both of these substances.  Especially given your username.  Stick with LSD.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 06:41 am
Damn that is unfortunate. Well thank you for the information everyone I'll take it all in as I make a decision on what to get next on The Road
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 06:45 am
Is one or the other more potent? Any difference in the high or any unique traits with either?
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: shizzlefitz on August 28, 2013, 06:55 am
Dude, with all due respect to Vanquish I know he's on a one man crusade against 25i-nbomes after some bad incidents he had but really, if you stick with blotter and just hit a tab or two at a time I wouldn't worry. Now, if you have good cash, yeah, by all means stick to doing acid but I really don't think demonizing a chem just because a few dipshits go OD'ing on a hundred times normal dosage is reasonable.

I'd a million times rather take my chances on nbomes than on hard drugs like coke, heroin or meth. Just sayin'
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 06:57 am
Dude, with all due respect to Vanquish I know he's on a one man crusade against 25i-nbomes after some bad incidents he had but really, if you stick with blotter and just hit a tab or two at a time I wouldn't worry. Now, if you have good cash, yeah, by all means stick to doing acid but I really don't think demonizing a chem just because a few dipshits go OD'ing on a hundred times normal dosage is reasonable.

I'd a million times rather take my chances on nbomes than on hard drugs like coke, heroin or meth. Just sayin'

Hardly, don't take my word for it.  Research it yourself.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 06:58 am
Dude, with all due respect to Vanquish I know he's on a one man crusade against 25i-nbomes after some bad incidents he had but really, if you stick with blotter and just hit a tab or two at a time I wouldn't worry. Now, if you have good cash, yeah, by all means stick to doing acid but I really don't think demonizing a chem just because a few dipshits go OD'ing on a hundred times normal dosage is reasonable.

I'd a million times rather take my chances on nbomes than on hard drugs like coke, heroin or meth. Just sayin'

I feel like nbome's aren't really too bad for ''human consumption'', but no one knows yet for sure so I guess who ever does it is a labrat(I am lol).
 shizzletitz do you have experience with both 25c AND 25i or just one of the two?
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: shizzlefitz on August 28, 2013, 07:05 am
Just 25i Nbomes for me. I've hit up to two hits and tripped harder than on anything else before or after. Since it doesn't screw much with your head you can still hold a conversation and act normal if you must around other people but inside you'll feel like your head's a teakettle about to go off. Lots of visuals too. It's a fun drug, just gotta respect it and not go too hard. I can't for the life of me see myself EVER wanting to do three hits let alone a five strip. Even if you didn't end up frying half your neurons what would be the point? You wouldn't enjoy it. And enjoying it is what it's all about.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 07:12 am
Just 25i Nbomes for me. I've hit up to two hits and tripped harder than on anything else before or after. Since it doesn't screw much with your head you can still hold a conversation and act normal if you must around other people but inside you'll feel like your head's a teakettle about to go off. Lots of visuals too. It's a fun drug, just gotta respect it and not go too hard. I can't for the life of me see myself EVER wanting to do three hits let alone a five strip. Even if you didn't end up frying half your neurons what would be the point? You wouldn't enjoy it. And enjoying it is what it's all about.

I'm pretty sure the factor is that 25I-NBOMe is safe for younger brains. 
People that have large and vast damage to the receptors from years of drug usage, are the ones most likely to experience the nasty side effects and toxicity.
Most people that take NBOMe's are in the range of 16-22 I'd say.  They also have grown up believing what they are ingesting is LSD.
In the age of information and the wealth of knowledge available it's a shame that this continues to happen - and people keep buying it and reselling it for profit with no regards to safety.
Karma will come back to bite them.
People around my age stick to LSD and typical tried and true psychedelics, because that's what we grew up on.
That's my explanation and theory at least.
Your mileage may vary.

Vanquish
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 07:18 am
I'm in the same situation dude holy fuck. I've taken 25i twice, first time(1x1000microgram blotter tab), was aight but I had no weed so it was OK. Still pretty impressive. Anyways the other night I gave one each to 2 of my friends. They tripped harder than anything else in their whole lives lol. I took 1 and like 2/3 tabs that night. I almost couldn't handle it.

Don't get me wrong it was amazing. I've taken acid like 3 times and that's the first time I've actually tripped(besides my first time trying 25i). The visuals were amazing, everything was just trippy as hell..and for like 6+ hours!! The fact that I tripped that insanely hard for hours on end blew my mind lol. The thing I DISLIKED about 25i was; I knew in the back of my mind both times I took it that 25i is a research chemical with no knowledge, and there are confirmed deaths, so it can kill me if I'm not careful.

I'm always the careful one but the whole time that night, I was afraid that I was gonna die lol no joke. Even if it was just 1 2/3 tabs. I was freaking out trying to do tasks to make me feel better. Vascoconstriction was a bitch, but not too bad. Idk just the fact that something could go wrong at any point, and its possibly lethal kept me from really enjoying the experience.

           Otherwise it was fuckin awesome!
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: shizzlefitz on August 28, 2013, 07:25 am
I'm knocking on 45 myself and out of shape and only started doing psychedelics this year. Before now I've done weed like maybe 2 or 3 times so talk about a noob and someone at risk! For me the worst was the sweats you get on come up. Just take a cold shower if this happens and you'll be alright. It's speed so you're probably not going to sleep too good that night so maybe do it earlier in the day.

Again, this bears repeating, stay away from nbomes that come in powder or liquid. It's damn near impossible to not overdo it. Do a tab or two, that's it. And then give it a long rest before you do it again. That should do the trick to minimize adverse risks.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 07:36 am
I'm knocking on 45 myself and out of shape and only started doing psychedelics this year.

That may be another factor, did you abuse your mind and body heavily with substances when you were younger - or did you take care of yourself for the most part?
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 07:41 am
...It's speed so you're probably not going to sleep too good that night so maybe do it earlier in the day....


Is 25i-nbome really speed?? Are all nbomes speed? Damnnn that's crazy aha holy shit.

Yea I didn't get any sleep at all and throughout the trip I felt pretty damn twacked out my friends seemed it too. I didn't mind the not sleeping though I layed in bed and listened to some trance music for a while then went out back and smoked a bowl as the sun came up. It was dope.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: sinister-breaks on August 28, 2013, 07:42 am
This is an interesting thread, I have recently obtained both a sample of 25c (1200ug blotter) and 25i (600ug Snuff Cap).

I have never taken either drug before. I have a long history with psychedelics with over 20 years of use. I have tried some of the "designer" psychedelics from the 2C family recently, I found them quite mild, but interesting.

I had a little nose online and of course saw the deaths from these drugs, it appears these are for those taking a high dose? Im assuming a 600ug hit wont kill me lol or at least I hope it wont!

Effects wise what am I expecting here, Ive heard its similar to the 2C family but is very speedy. I'm not a speed fan, so be honest, is this an all nighter type of affair if I dropped this stuff in the evening? Is it one of those come 5am im cursing the fookin drug! lol



Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: shizzlefitz on August 28, 2013, 07:43 am
I'm knocking on 45 myself and out of shape and only started doing psychedelics this year.

That may be another factor, did you abuse your mind and body heavily with substances when you were younger - or did you take care of yourself for the most part?

Wish I could say I took care of myself when younger but no. Pretty much always worked in front of a computer and ate junk food. I should be in worse shape but I guess I got good genes. Never did drugs, don't drink, don't smoke. I'm only doing psychedelics now after lots of reading up on it. Mostly I'm afraid of getting hooked on something so hallucinogenics seem pretty safe if done with care and I'm responsible enough in that sense.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: shizzlefitz on August 28, 2013, 07:46 am

I had a little nose online and of course saw the deaths from these drugs, it appears these are for those taking a high dose? Im assuming a 600ug hit wont kill me lol or at least I hope it wont!

Yeah, that's a baby step there. I'd be ballsy enough to suggest you can do two of those.

Effects wise what am I expecting here, Ive heard its similar to the 2C family but is very speedy. I'm not a speed fan, so be honest, is this an all nighter type of affair if I dropped this stuff in the evening? Is it one of those come 5am im cursing the fookin drug! lol

And then there's that - yeah, you can pretty much kiss sleep goodbye if you do this in the afternoon or evening. Unless you got something to knock you out but then that's just asking for a hangover the next day.
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Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: sinister-breaks on August 28, 2013, 08:03 am
Hmmm part of me is thinking I may have stumbled across these compounds before. Beginning of the summer I brought some MDMA from my guy, I took a nice rock and jumped in the shower before heading out to the town.

I never made it into town, I spent a few hours merged with a wall, after that I rolled around on the floor with my dog and began to wonder if my arm was actuallty attached and even thought about getting it of. I came round for a moment and reached out for some help, my mate came to watch over me and ermmm, joined in!

It was a strange trip, terrifying in places, the biggest issue I had was with NOT sleeping, I took it at 9pm and come 9am I was wide awake, infact 9pm the next day I was still struggling, I had no downers so had to ride it, I hate that shizzle. Someone said to me that was not MDMA but something cut with an NBOME! Bet you it was one of these!

Hmmmm im with Vanquish in regards to RC, not to say I have not played and dabbled, but generally I stick with tried and tested, but drug Im curious thats my issue lol

Think I will save these for a very rainy day, seems like you wanna take these first thing in the morning and spend a day somewhere safe ;)



Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 08:14 am
Hmmm part of me is thinking I may have stumbled across these compounds before. Beginning of the summer I brought some MDMA from my guy, I took a nice rock and jumped in the shower before heading out to the town.

I never made it into town, I spent a few hours merged with a wall, after that I rolled around on the floor with my dog and began to wonder if my arm was actuallty attached and even thought about getting it of. I came round for a moment and reached out for some help, my mate came to watch over me and ermmm, joined in!

It was a strange trip, terrifying in places, the biggest issue I had was with NOT sleeping, I took it at 9pm and come 9am I was wide awake, infact 9pm the next day I was still struggling, I had no downers so had to ride it, I hate that shizzle. Someone said to me that was not MDMA but something cut with an NBOME! Bet you it was one of these!

Hmmmm im with Vanquish in regards to RC, not to say I have not played and dabbled, but generally I stick with tried and tested, but drug Im curious thats my issue lol

Think I will save these for a very rainy day, seems like you wanna take these first thing in the morning and spend a day somewhere safe ;)


Hahaahah oh wow..I forsure know where you're coming from with that. A friend of mine often gets intensely high and will end up on the floor tripping his ass off of shrooms or some shit. First time I ever ripped a bong I ended up on the floor passed out lol.

Anyways yea the thing is, 25i was pretty fun for me, I would do it again but not too soon. I definately wouldn't make a habit out of it. I've learned from past experiences not to make a habit out of anything seriously damaging. Which is why I smoke a alot of weed ahah.

Well look, I'll say this...I wouldn't mind taking a tab every now and then but there is a serious margin for profit, IF and only if you are a caring, informative, genuine and HONEST supplier/dealer. That may be the reasoning as to why I'd would possibly be eager to get more ;)
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: hailsatan123123 on August 28, 2013, 04:50 pm
vomiting , Nausea , Insomnia , migraine , Are just some of the side effects i had after one use of 25i, never again! :)
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 05:44 pm
Does acid really burn holes in to your brain?? I've heard this many times about many different drugs like Ecstasy. I never really have believed that but this bitch is saying her cousin showed her the burns in someones brain.

Does it actually ''fry'' your fuckin brain? Cuz that would suck.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 05:50 pm
vomiting , Nausea , Insomnia , migraine , Are just some of the side effects i had after one use of 25i, never again! :)

That's very close to my one experience with 25C.
Vomited, and had a huge tension headache. 
Nasty substance, but I don't think it's deadly like 25I.
Unless you ingest 3mg or more, then you might be in trouble.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 05:51 pm
Does acid really burn holes in to your brain?

Urban myth brother...
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 05:54 pm
Does acid really burn holes in to your brain?

Urban myth brother...

I had a feeling, thanks. Vanquish do you think 25i is bad if you do it occasionally and safely. Or redistribution if you actually inform buyers and teach them how to do it? Safe enough or shoud that be stopped asap?
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 06:06 pm
I had a feeling, thanks.
Vanquish do you think 25i is bad if you do it occasionally and safely.
Or redistribution if you actually inform buyers and teach them how to do it?
Safe enough or should that be stopped asap?

For the most part I'm the strongest advocate against 25I-NBOMe on Silk Road.
I don't believe that it's possible to occasionally use it and safely.
Seriously, you never know what could happen, or when it will happen.
Hopefully my misfortune is other people's blessing.
Maybe that's the reason I'm still alive.

In no way shape or form would I ever think about selling NBOMe's.
You are essentially poisoning everyone that takes them.
If you are already doing so, please stop and seriously reconsider your outlook towards life and your future.
Don't ruin your own life, and most of all don't ruin others lives.

Sincerely,
Vanquish
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 06:10 pm
Can I ask what happened in your experience and why you feel so strongly against nbomes? Did you take a high dosage? Hospitalization?
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: shankman96 on August 28, 2013, 06:16 pm
Don't let personal anecdotes scare you, just use it moderately. 1-2 tabs every two weeks or so and you'll be fine, you already know the chemical doesn't react harshly to your body. If you want to use the drug, then use it. I find the experience of 25c pleasant, as long as I don't have an empty stomach. Taking 1 hit with no tolerance is crazy fun.

Don't take retardedly high doses like everyone who writes a bad trip report for it, and you should be okay.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 06:27 pm
Can I ask what happened in your experience and why you feel so strongly against nbomes? Did you take a high dosage? Hospitalization?

Start here, and I highly suggest you read the entire thread.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=199038.msg1445894#msg1445894

<3 Vanquish
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Ballzinator on August 28, 2013, 07:09 pm
I like to push limits (after gaining lots of experience first of course) so I once snorted 9.6mg (16 of Tyl3r's caps) of 25i in one night and was tripping fucking ballz. I'm not recommending this to anyone but my point is that everyone is different and handles drugs differently. One person's favorite recreational dose might kill the next person.
Start small, have a sitter, have benzos on hand, be careful and use your brains and you'll be fine :)
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 28, 2013, 09:23 pm
I like to push limits (after gaining lots of experience first of course) so I once snorted 9.6mg (16 of Tyl3r's caps) of 25i in one night and was tripping fucking ballz. I'm not recommending this to anyone but my point is that everyone is different and handles drugs differently. One person's favorite recreational dose might kill the next person.
Start small, have a sitter, have benzos on hand, be careful and use your brains and you'll be fine :)


Shit dude that sounds liek a deathwise. I'd never ever ever in m y life step up to anywhere abouve 2mg of 25i. Too unpredictable. But holy fuck dude you have some Ballz!
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Vanquish on August 28, 2013, 09:42 pm
But holy fuck dude you have some Ballz!

Ballz of Steel!
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: DenoyerGeppert on August 28, 2013, 10:43 pm
Snorting definitely takes it to the next level. I have done 5 tabs on my gums at once (fuck that burn) and then re-dosed to like 14 throughout a night (before realizing that re-dosing with Nbomes is completely futile). But after snorting 3 of Tylers caps, I was tripping harder than all those tabs put together.

As a result of my 25i usage, I would never touch it again. It wrecks your body. Like, severely. Even the 2C's are so much better that the Nbomes in regards to this. But if you are looking for hallucinogenic enlightenment (your username), then NBomes are very likely NOT going to get you there. 25i is like the party acid. Super speedy and energetic and over quickly with no real connection to what happened. Most of the time the visuals come so think and fast that you don't know what you are seeing. Doesn't leave much room for thinking. LSD and Shrooms on the other hand take you in a journey and you reach an understanding.

That being said though, I fell in love with 2C-E. My favorite of RC's for sure! I suggest trying it out!

Probably the biggest thing was the massive body load and the overwhelming chemical feeling of the NBomes. I really don't like that. Try something like Shrooms and you would never go back IMO.

Anyways, I advise heavily against the Nbomes. Bad, cheap shit.

DG
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 29, 2013, 03:43 am
I really appreciate everyones input on this. Btw- I know nbomes aren't the best things I should be ingesting, and don't plan on it for much longer at all.

@Vanquish, I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience with nbomes, that really sucked to read.

 I don't enjoy ingesting nbomes but I do enjoy the effects. The body load is pretty bad for 25i(only nbome i've tried), which has me wondering if the trip/high is even worth it.

*But anyways, my original question for this thread was ''Is 25c-nbome or 25i-nbome safer''? Like which one of the two is more OK to consume, and is there even much of a difference in the high between?

Once again I appreciate everyone's input but I'm still wondering about that question.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: sinister-breaks on August 29, 2013, 07:27 am
Sorry for being  dumb what do you guys mean by high body load?
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: SeekEnlighten on August 29, 2013, 08:03 am
Hahaha I thought that too before I caught on... I think it just means the unpleasant physical side effects a substance can give off, e.g nausea, vomiting, stomach aches and diarrhea haha.

 Not gonna lie I took the last 1/4th tab of 25i I had left this morning, before eating or anything, and I got a ffffaaaatt stomach ache and some gnarly diarrhea lol! :/
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: sinister-breaks on August 29, 2013, 08:14 am
Yeah I think like I said I have tried this shizzle before, sold it as MDMA, assuming it was a mixture of something with 25i from what I can read, I could be wrong but my money is on it!!

Stuff burnt me all the way down and out. I thought I had been poisoned, felt sooooo sick on the stuff!

Well I have 1200ug's of both these drugs, both free samples. I cant see me taking it anytime soon. I have loads of DMT / 2CB in stock, so why would I want to  :-X
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Ballzinator on August 29, 2013, 05:17 pm
sinister-breaks, WTF is that in your profile pic, 5-Fluoro-DMT?! :o
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: nosajorolok on August 31, 2013, 10:35 pm
I'm probably one of the largest supporters of 25i on the road. I fucking LOVE it. I can't see why people don't enjoy this drug. Now, of course I understand that everyone is going to experience it differently, and not everyone enjoys the effects, but I've never vomited from 25i, and I've taken upwards of 4000ug in a single sitting. The horror stories you hear about it are from the fucktards that load up a line of it like they would coke and put it up their nose, then go to the hospital. Well....duh. Doing that is VERY difficult do to the fact it's hard to measure dosages correctly. Therefore, people accidentally take 9-10mg, and of course, that has adverse effects.

I've taken a LOT of 25i, and never once not loved it. As long as you're careful, and don't freak out about the possible danger of the drug, you should be fine. After all, anything in high enough doses is going to be dangerous, be it heroin, 25i, coffee, even weed. A single 1mg tab of 25i is NOT going to put you in the hospital, unless your brain is already fucked up, IMHO. It's a wonderful hallucinogen when respected and used wisely.

Just my 2 bitcoins.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: Ballzinator on September 01, 2013, 06:49 am
I'm probably one of the largest supporters of 25i on the road. I fucking LOVE it. I can't see why people don't enjoy this drug. Now, of course I understand that everyone is going to experience it differently, and not everyone enjoys the effects, but I've never vomited from 25i, and I've taken upwards of 4000ug in a single sitting. The horror stories you hear about it are from the fucktards that load up a line of it like they would coke and put it up their nose, then go to the hospital. Well....duh. Doing that is VERY difficult do to the fact it's hard to measure dosages correctly. Therefore, people accidentally take 9-10mg, and of course, that has adverse effects.

I've taken a LOT of 25i, and never once not loved it. As long as you're careful, and don't freak out about the possible danger of the drug, you should be fine. After all, anything in high enough doses is going to be dangerous, be it heroin, 25i, coffee, even weed. A single 1mg tab of 25i is NOT going to put you in the hospital, unless your brain is already fucked up, IMHO. It's a wonderful hallucinogen when respected and used wisely.

Just my 2 bitcoins.
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Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: londonlondon on September 01, 2013, 12:28 pm
I'm probably one of the largest supporters of 25i on the road. I fucking LOVE it. I can't see why people don't enjoy this drug. Now, of course I understand that everyone is going to experience it differently, and not everyone enjoys the effects, but I've never vomited from 25i, and I've taken upwards of 4000ug in a single sitting. The horror stories you hear about it are from the fucktards that load up a line of it like they would coke and put it up their nose, then go to the hospital. Well....duh. Doing that is VERY difficult do to the fact it's hard to measure dosages correctly. Therefore, people accidentally take 9-10mg, and of course, that has adverse effects.

I've taken a LOT of 25i, and never once not loved it. As long as you're careful, and don't freak out about the possible danger of the drug, you should be fine. After all, anything in high enough doses is going to be dangerous, be it heroin, 25i, coffee, even weed. A single 1mg tab of 25i is NOT going to put you in the hospital, unless your brain is already fucked up, IMHO. It's a wonderful hallucinogen when respected and used wisely.

Just my 2 bitcoins.

i second this!

haven't taken big dosages of 25i, i always keep it at 1 tab, but have done it about 5 times and had a blast on each of them. i found it impossible to get a bad trip from them.

the only 'negative' feeling i had as a result to the drug was that i took it on a day hike, in the middle of the forest. i started peaking hard (don't know if the setting was TOO DAMN PERFECT lol and/or if the exercise + rather empty stomach played a part). my whole field of sight was covered with trees. the trees danced and melted and wiggled. the bark of every tree seemed to be covered by a fluorescent green moss. the greenness of the forest was astounding and beautiful. the forest has never looked so fresh. and as i stood there, letting all this awesomeness overwhelm me, I got a slight claustrophobia-like feeling because we were at a point there was no pronounced clearing to the sky in the forest top, and for some reason i felt i needed this 'clearing' to feel better, and as we continued walking to find it, i took a few deep breaths and it immediately faded away.

half of my trips have been at parties, half in nature. for me, personally, i prefer it in nature, as the drug is 90-95% visual and theres nothing like nature to provide you with the most breathtaking portraits you need. the other 5-10% headspace is so easy to handle. it obviously does not compare to LSD, LSD is way superior, but 25i is also great fun.

i find the main advantage you have with 25i is that the headspace is so clear, that you can pretty much take it comfortably in any setting. taking LSD in nature can be very difficult for some, as the idea of not knowing were you are can accidentally creep up any trip.

25i could be labelled as a 'museum-drug', because you have full control of yourself.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: moonflower on September 03, 2013, 11:48 pm
if you're seeking enlightenment, stay away from these chemicals. they won't help in any possible way. :P
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: DenoyerGeppert on September 05, 2013, 10:48 pm
if you're seeking enlightenment, stay away from these chemicals. they won't help in any possible way. :P

Exactly.

They are fun, and provide "good" trips but this is not the path for a more rounded hallucinogenic experience. As with life, don't get sucked into the "I want it now and want to do the least amount of work to get it". Nbomes will give you an experience and it will give it to you quick and hard, but if you are seeking something deeper, it will not take you there. If you are just going to a party and want to trip, then by all means, take Nbomes.

To answer you question then, I would stick with 25i. I have tried both and I enjoyed 25i more. 25c is a tad more low key. 25i is the more popular one by far and for good reason.
Title: Re: 25i-nbome Vs. 25c-nbome
Post by: hailsatan123123 on September 06, 2013, 04:48 pm
I'm probably one of the largest supporters of 25i on the road. I fucking LOVE it. I can't see why people don't enjoy this drug. Now, of course I understand that everyone is going to experience it differently, and not everyone enjoys the effects, but I've never vomited from 25i, and I've taken upwards of 4000ug in a single sitting. The horror stories you hear about it are from the fucktards that load up a line of it like they would coke and put it up their nose, then go to the hospital. Well....duh. Doing that is VERY difficult do to the fact it's hard to measure dosages correctly. Therefore, people accidentally take 9-10mg, and of course, that has adverse effects.

I've taken a LOT of 25i, and never once not loved it. As long as you're careful, and don't freak out about the possible danger of the drug, you should be fine. After all, anything in high enough doses is going to be dangerous, be it heroin, 25i, coffee, even weed. A single 1mg tab of 25i is NOT going to put you in the hospital, unless your brain is already fucked up, IMHO. It's a wonderful hallucinogen when respected and used wisely.

Just my 2 bitcoins.
Well ive never had so many negative effects from any drug i ever used (Maybe besides alcohol) but seriously, I had the worst headaches ive even experienced in my life on these chemicals. And the fact that some people sell them as LSD in my opinion is the worst (can be prevented if they print the chemical on the blotter).
But I find no real reason to support these when you have such wonderful psychedelics which are far safer and have been used for many many years, People still don't know what the long term effects of these new psychedelics simply because they are new!

If you wanna use them go ahead but I don't think it's necessary to recommend them!


Cheers, Hailsatan :)