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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: 100% American on January 25, 2012, 09:47 am

Title: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: 100% American on January 25, 2012, 09:47 am
I really hope to see more gun vendors on Silk Road. I would love to have more of a selection. I also have many friends that are interested in buying guns on Silk Road. I am confident that if more guns were listed they would be sold. Alot of people want guns and many are willing to pay prices higher than retail.

So for all you sellers out there if you have a good connection for guns try selling on Silk Road. You may find that guns can bring very high profits and low risk if you are very skilled. But just like drugs, if you are not skilled the risk is not worth the rewards.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: koolkev on January 25, 2012, 11:03 am
you sir, are a moron! i hope you die slow and painful!

you're 100% true to your nym tough :D
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: gazwel on January 25, 2012, 12:02 pm
I don't get the American obsession with guns to be honest. To me the fact you can actually go into a shop and buy a gun is just crazy.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: SierraRS on January 25, 2012, 08:31 pm
Guns don't kill people, other people kill people. In places where guns are banned for civilians, most homicides is done with axe, kitchen knife or bare hands. Banning guns does not prevent killing, it just makes it more bloody and violent.

Guns might be good profit for skilled sellers. If they will be sold on Silk Road I will buy a gun sometimes later.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: sickboy on January 25, 2012, 08:43 pm
NO MORE GUNS ON SR!!

If anything is going to bring down SR it is the sale of weapons.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: BenJesuit on January 25, 2012, 09:30 pm
Goodness people. Really now.

Do as I do. Ready?

I have no intention of ever buying a gun on SR. But I absolutely support the right of someone to sell arms on SR.

See? Easy.

You don't get to pick and choose what can and can't be sold on SR. Don't be stupid and self serving. There are those that don't want you buying illicit drugs on SR. But I'm sure you're all the more willing to defend someone's right to sell drugs.

And this notion that gun sales will bring down the heat down on SR... possibly. But so will a kid who buys drugs on SR and overdoses on it and dies.

Be smart. Get with the program. Don't be a hypocrite. SR is about freedom for all. Which means everyone. Not just the things you personally like. Let the market dictate what will and what will not sell on SR.

Or go start your own personal exchange where you can dictate to your heart's content.

And as for the poster who wishes a slow and painful death on someone who may sell or advocate the sale of guns on SR; think about what you posted. Think deeply about it and see it for the true ugliness that it is. 
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: onestopshop on January 25, 2012, 09:41 pm
And this notion that gun sales will bring down the heat down on SR... possibly. But so will a kid who buys drugs on SR and overdoses on it and dies.

Don't be silly, guns are designed to kills drugs on the other hand are not.

and to be honest, if you went through the effort of getting TOR, Bitcoins, PGP e.t.c and didn't bother to check out optimum drug doses you'd be pretty retarded.

guns = more heat on SR.

in a ideal world I would like to see more guns on SR especially Europe, but I wouldn't be willing to risk SR getting shut down over some guns.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: SierraRS on January 25, 2012, 09:50 pm
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If anything is going to bring down SR it is the sale of weapons
The failure of computer security or pilot error will bring SR down. The SR have enough enemies, weapons does not matter so much in my opinion.

For people who can spend 200$ and legally buy weapon in a store this is no big deal. For someone who will never be able to legally buy a gun in his country this is big difference. Buying gun on street is even more dangerous than buying drugs on street, you might get robbed from your cash and catch the bullet from the gun you intended to buy.

Please keep the guns on SR for a while!

I like guns because they are marvelous pieces of engineering (well, most of them are), I don't intend to use them for killing.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: BenJesuit on January 26, 2012, 02:12 am
And this notion that gun sales will bring down the heat down on SR... possibly. But so will a kid who buys drugs on SR and overdoses on it and dies.

Don't be silly, guns are designed to kills drugs on the other hand are not.

and to be honest, if you went through the effort of getting TOR, Bitcoins, PGP e.t.c and didn't bother to check out optimum drug doses you'd be pretty retarded.

Yep, that's what a teen can be. Retarded. Especially if it's their first time after withdrawal and they go right back to using the same amount they did before not realizing that their tolerance dropped.

A number of scenarios can be dreamed up which have just as much social impact to warrant attention to SR and the commensurate call to arms.

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guns = more heat on SR.

in a ideal world I would like to see more guns on SR especially Europe, but I wouldn't be willing to risk SR getting shut down over some guns.

You say that as if it's fact but I have yet to see anyone substantiate that. To many people drugs cause just as much harm if not more. So it's all relative.

But Lil Coner said some very interesting things. Especially concerning what drew attention to SR in the first place. Read his post.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: GaltRR on January 26, 2012, 02:54 am
While I am 100% fine with every single person on earth owning a gun, I don't think they should be here. For the most part drug sales on this site are victimless. Imagine a murder happening and the guy saying he bought the unregistered gun here. There would be a shit storm. Keeping counterfeits/CP/guns off of here will help this site stay around much longer. Once we start venturing into sales that have victims we will see this place shut down faster than you can imagine.

*Guns create more heat than drugs because someone taking drugs is making a choice. If they really wanted to do drugs they could get them on the street. If some little girl is killed with a gun bought on this site, you will see parents rally to get this site destroyed. The media doesnt give a shit if some tweeker ODs with drugs from this site. But a murder from a gun off this site will be the end.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: krepancy on January 26, 2012, 03:34 am
i agree i like the guns on sr
ive been thinking about buying a UZI i saw on SR the other day

Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: theradblur on January 26, 2012, 04:55 am
Hey koolkev, get your head out of your ass.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: redforeva on January 26, 2012, 05:16 am
I think anything should be allowed to be traded on SR. Guns,Drugs,Tools,Books,Apparel,ECT ECT Even more like.. Alcoholic beverages and explosives. The latter via dropspot. This market should be seen as an open commerce for people to come and sell their goods.  8)
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: BenJesuit on January 26, 2012, 05:42 am
For the most part drug sales on this site are victimless.

You don't know that. That's pure speculation. Some of the drugs sold on here may have a high probability that their production directly or indirectly harmed someone. Take cocaine for instance. Somewhere along the path of its creation, someone may have been exploited, bribed, tricked, or worse, killed. Those that produce it are notorious for the crimes they commit in establishing and maintaining their hold on their interest in the market for it. Some vendors here may be a part of an organized crime organizations.  Who's to say.   

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Imagine a murder happening and the guy saying he bought the unregistered gun here. There would be a shit storm. Keeping counterfeits/CP/guns off of here will help this site stay around much longer. Once we start venturing into sales that have victims we will see this place shut down faster than you can imagine.

Yet the guns bought at gun trade shows in the south that have been used in horrific crimes haven't lead to an earnest crack down on gun trade shows.

I don't know where people are coming up with this notion that gun sales on here are guaranteed to lead to LEO's "that's the last straw" epiphany. Honestly, it looks like nothing more than a straw man argument for the purpose of forwarding one's sensibility towards guns.

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*Guns create more heat than drugs because someone taking drugs is making a choice. If they really wanted to do drugs they could get them on the street. If some little girl is killed with a gun bought on this site, you will see parents rally to get this site destroyed. The media doesnt give a shit if some tweeker ODs with drugs from this site. But a murder from a gun off this site will be the end.

Or if some young white girl from a well to do community and nice family ODs on drugs bought off Silk Road, the media will be all over that also. Which in turn would probably spark a politician to lead a crusade against SR to "save our kids" from this "website that makes it all to easy for our kids to anonymously obtain a plethora of dangerous drugs and sorted chemicals."

We can fruitlessly keep coming up with a whole bunch of scenarios that could spell the death of SR. Or we can stick to the creed and purpose of SR to be a free market. Key word is "free."

And if you can "get drugs off the street" as you say, why are you so worried about LEO coming down hard on here because of gun sales? Go get your drugs off the street and be done with this place since it doesn't at all seem as if you understand or support the purpose of SR.  It appears that all you care about is maintaining your convenient access to your illicit drug(s) of choice.

I don't mean to harsh on you in particular, but I have yet to see a valid argument against gun sales here other than straw man argumentation used for the purpose of forwarding one's self serving interests and worldview, hypothetical scenarios with nothing to truly substantiate them and good old fashion fear mongering.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: guns4europe on January 26, 2012, 06:40 am
People who want guns banned on here are just hypocrites, drugs have potential to destroy your own life and harm a lot of other people just as well. We can start banning anything on here that has the potential to hurt and there wouldn't be any trade going on here left.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: sickboy on January 26, 2012, 06:52 am
I am comfortable with the size of my penis. I am also secure in my sexuality. So you can see, I have no use for weapons.

SR, BAN GUNS!
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: jeanvaljean on January 26, 2012, 06:58 am
If we start banning guns on here we're not better as the government who doesn't grant us that right
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: cacoethes on January 26, 2012, 08:24 am
you sir, are a moron! i hope you die slow and painful!

you're 100% true to your nym tough :D

Why do you persist in wishing people die slow and painful deaths?  Give it a fucking rest, already.  For someone so obviously anit-gun, you sure do make some militant-sounding posts.  Do you wish death and misery upon everyone who disagrees with you?

Fucking ID 10 T.

I hope you come across some really great ex and have a really good roll.  Maybe you'd lighten up a bit.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: cacoethes on January 26, 2012, 08:30 am
And this notion that gun sales will bring down the heat down on SR... possibly. But so will a kid who buys drugs on SR and overdoses on it and dies.

Don't be silly, guns are designed to kills drugs on the other hand are not.

and to be honest, if you went through the effort of getting TOR, Bitcoins, PGP e.t.c and didn't bother to check out optimum drug doses you'd be pretty retarded.

guns = more heat on SR.

in a ideal world I would like to see more guns on SR especially Europe, but I wouldn't be willing to risk SR getting shut down over some guns.

Been shooting since I was a kid and haven't used a gun for what it was "designed to do" just yet.  Guns aren't likely to bring any more heat on SR than drugs will.  It's the very concept of SR that scares the shit out of the establishment.

Save your concern for when weapons of mass destruction start showing up here.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: yaosh on January 26, 2012, 04:10 pm
And this notion that gun sales will bring down the heat down on SR... possibly. But so will a kid who buys drugs on SR and overdoses on it and dies.

Don't be silly, guns are designed to kills drugs on the other hand are not.

and to be honest, if you went through the effort of getting TOR, Bitcoins, PGP e.t.c and didn't bother to check out optimum drug doses you'd be pretty retarded.

guns = more heat on SR.

in a ideal world I would like to see more guns on SR especially Europe, but I wouldn't be willing to risk SR getting shut down over some guns.

Likewise, if someone went through all this effort and expense to buy a gun and never learned to use one safely, or how to avoid using one in the first place, they would be retarded.
Don't fool yourselves guys, the politicians and agencies involved are following the money, and the money isn't where the guns are, it's in the drugs.  Their reelections, agency budgets, kickbacks, etc. are predicated on the $ amount of seizures.  If the ATF reports they grabbed a few unregistered handguns, nobody will be impressed.  Hundreds are captured at a time and barely make the news.  Real criminals don't need SR to buy guns.  Look at the Juarez, Mexico seizures of hundreds of weapons from the cartels... US military issue, serial numbers belonging to the federal government.  I think that made 3rd page news for a single day where I am.

Would I sell guns, explosives, traps, or other lethal items here?  Fuck no.  My conscience wouldn't allow that.  Will I tolerate it?  Well, they tolerate the things I am here for...  So, yes.  I prefer total freedom to perceived freedom.  Android vs iPhone...  Any regulation would eventually regulate Tor/SR out of existence.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: BenJesuit on January 26, 2012, 06:34 pm
And this notion that gun sales will bring down the heat down on SR... possibly. But so will a kid who buys drugs on SR and overdoses on it and dies.

Don't be silly, guns are designed to kills drugs on the other hand are not.

and to be honest, if you went through the effort of getting TOR, Bitcoins, PGP e.t.c and didn't bother to check out optimum drug doses you'd be pretty retarded.

guns = more heat on SR.

in a ideal world I would like to see more guns on SR especially Europe, but I wouldn't be willing to risk SR getting shut down over some guns.

Likewise, if someone went through all this effort and expense to buy a gun and never learned to use one safely, or how to avoid using one in the first place, they would be retarded.
Don't fool yourselves guys, the politicians and agencies involved are following the money, and the money isn't where the guns are, it's in the drugs.  Their reelections, agency budgets, kickbacks, etc. are predicated on the $ amount of seizures.  If the ATF reports they grabbed a few unregistered handguns, nobody will be impressed.  Hundreds are captured at a time and barely make the news.  Real criminals don't need SR to buy guns.  Look at the Juarez, Mexico seizures of hundreds of weapons from the cartels... US military issue, serial numbers belonging to the federal government.  I think that made 3rd page news for a single day where I am.

Would I sell guns, explosives, traps, or other lethal items here?  Fuck no.  My conscience wouldn't allow that.  Will I tolerate it?  Well, they tolerate the things I am here for...  So, yes.  I prefer total freedom to perceived freedom.  Android vs iPhone...  Any regulation would eventually regulate Tor/SR out of existence.

Well said, especially the last paragraph. Like you, not only would I not buy weapons of any sort, but I wouldn't sell them either because of my own sensibilities. Neither would I trade in child pornography which I personally find to be one of most deplorable things. But, I know full well that there are many who think that my trading in illicit drugs is evil and perpetuates evils of all sorts. So rather than be a pathetic hypocrite that I could be, I subscribe to the spirit of SR's free market principles which let market forces dictate what will or won't be sold.

It's great to see posters who truly understand what Silk Road is about. While I understand and perhaps even share the fears of others, I set those fears aside for the greater good of the movement that SR is.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: gaia on January 26, 2012, 07:35 pm
Been shooting since I was a kid and haven't used a gun for what it was "designed to do" just yet. 

Yeah, but  ask yourself why people would be willing to pay silly money for a weapon on here. To shoot ducks?

I feel a merge coming on....
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: seratin on January 26, 2012, 07:42 pm
Been shooting since I was a kid and haven't used a gun for what it was "designed to do" just yet. 

Yeah, but  ask yourself why people would be willing to pay silly money for a weapon on here. To shoot ducks?

I feel a merge coming on....

`silly money`. Not in EU it is not. Actually the prices here reflect the price in the stores, except you don't have to pay for background checks, mental fitness checks, secure storage, periodical police inspections. Best of all, you appear in no databases.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: firestorm on January 26, 2012, 07:44 pm
My thoughts on the issue are ambivalent at best. 

I will say though, that if anyone ever starts offering shit like kiddy porn I am fucking GONE.  I already feel a little uneasy with the gun thing personally but it's not my choice to make.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: SierraRS on January 26, 2012, 07:50 pm
You can get tons of kiddy porn on Freenet for free. There is no need for CP on SR.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: krepancy on January 26, 2012, 08:36 pm
why do all you crybaby obama voters think guns are for killing

i want a gun for self defence (like most people)
minorities try to break into my house all the time, and a knife is not enough to stop them.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: kuwahara on January 26, 2012, 11:01 pm
why do all you crybaby obama voters think guns are for killing

i want a gun for self defence (like most people)
minorities try to break into my house all the time, and a knife is not enough to stop them.
Man you need a new place to live, not a gun.  :o ;D

You need to remember that some of us are from Europe where we don't have guns and shoot each other.  Heck even our police don't carry guns in the UK.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: theradblur on January 26, 2012, 11:47 pm
why do all you crybaby obama voters think guns are for killing

i want a gun for self defence (like most people)
minorities try to break into my house all the time, and a knife is not enough to stop them.

Come on man. That's just generalization at its finest. I'm an Obama supporter (not devout or crazy about the guy), and I believe in the right to bear arms.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: freddieisdead on January 27, 2012, 07:00 am
I feel like the argument for guns on here has been made well enough. It's a free market, individual morals have nothing to do with it. If you don't agree, don't purchase or sell that guns. We have no right to deny freedom to others ever but particularly in a place like this.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: yaosh on January 27, 2012, 08:59 am
I feel like the argument for guns on here has been made well enough. It's a free market, individual morals have nothing to do with it. If you don't agree, don't purchase or sell that guns. We have no right to deny freedom to others ever but particularly in a place like this.

^ This
"But I want freedom!  Freedom to take away your freedom!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH."
Some people are just missing the entire fucking point.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: gaia on January 27, 2012, 12:56 pm

.....In the UK they totally fucked thier people and did some shady shit. They originally said 22 or rim fire firearms could be owned by citizens. Then they made a law and told all citizens they had to store all thier 22 guns in a government secured location. While they had control of the legally owned guns they changed thier minds and decided people were not allowed to have 22 guns. So they seized all of them. America isnt the greatest but fuck the EUs dumb ass policies. I could never live in any other country. American has so many serious problems, but the benefits and positive differences from other countries in the world makes America a special places to live....

I swear I could hear the rising sound of "The Star Spangled Banner" over that last bit. ;)

I'm not even getting into which is the best country to live in the world argument, but I think these gun related homicide statistics shed  light onto the risks and/or benefits of living in a fire-armed society:

World Rank: #4th    USA: 9369 dead

World Rank: #39th  UK:   14 dead

Adjusting for population size (x5) this translates into 70 for the UK as a direct 'per capita' figure in comparison the the US. So it's not all peachy is it?

Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: BenJesuit on January 27, 2012, 04:54 pm
Would be nice if you would site the source.

In any event, yes, that is the case. But then the UK has its issues with a very high rate of fatal stabbings. Look at any statistic to derive actual numbers. Worse still is that while fatal stabbings are horrific, there are a lot more UK citizens who didn't die from the stabbing events and live to suffer the after effects of the event. Sure they are still alive but their quality of life in many instances is severely degraded.

I noticed that for a long time, SR sold all sorts of stabbing weapons and knives. Switchblades especially. A favorite of the shadowy UK slasher-type. And this is even though the seller's page politely asks that items that can cause harm not be sold. (They are obviously not banned).

Why bring this up? Because we can always find some stat or figure or study that highlights violence or some particular type of violence. But the fact remains that humans everywhere have a high propensity for violence. So we don't want to run around banning everything that may cause harm since of course we'd ultimately have to ban humans.

Remember, it all started with kicks and punches, sticks and stones.  We're a bad lot, we humans.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: gaia on January 27, 2012, 07:21 pm
Yeah, I should post the source you're right:

"The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)"

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

Not the most recent admittedly, but an easy graphic. And everywhere you look, it's a similar picture.

Knife crime is pretty bad here, but still only around 200 deaths a year.

As a species, I think we are just reaching our shelf life. We have a pretty strong self destruct gene in us somewhere, and it's only a matter of time before it wins over.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: BenJesuit on January 27, 2012, 09:25 pm
It's a scary thought but I have to agree. Difficult times ahead. Especially with the rate of population growth.

It saddens me. Don't know if I want to bring children into this world seeing where it is likely headed.

Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: bp on January 27, 2012, 09:43 pm
Yeah, I should post the source you're right:

"The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)"

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

Not the most recent admittedly, but an easy graphic. And everywhere you look, it's a similar picture.

Knife crime is pretty bad here, but still only around 200 deaths a year.

As a species, I think we are just reaching our shelf life. We have a pretty strong self destruct gene in us somewhere, and it's only a matter of time before it wins over.

If that's true it's going to take a lot more than firearms to pull it off.
As much of an advantage as they give, it's still a door to door process to exterminate those who choose not to be exterminated.
Not all aggression/defense situations end up in a circular firing squad, some people are actually smart enough to avoid being simply shot. Some might be able to survive chemical weapons (which could include some drugs BTW), biological weapons and even nukes and dirt bombs.

Of course, as soon as it's safe to come out one of these people will immediately get back to trying to group up "rule" the rest of them, as not all smart enough to survive are smart enough to see rulers are the very source of human misery.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: bp on January 27, 2012, 09:47 pm
It's a scary thought but I have to agree. Difficult times ahead. Especially with the rate of population growth.

It saddens me. Don't know if I want to bring children into this world seeing where it is likely headed.

Many countries are experiencing a population reduction right now.
What we are getting is not necessarily so much of a population growth as a cultural redistribution, with some cultures breeding at a rate that not only replaces themselves but exceeds it and others not quite replacing themselves.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: MacMan on January 27, 2012, 10:08 pm
As much as i dont really mind if ppl are buying selling guns, it does bring ALOT of heat to SR and soon enough some dumb ass kid is going to purchase a gun off here, shoot up his school, leave behind a trall to SR, and it is going to bring SR to the world spotlight. Something like that im sure will eventually happen and its just gonna fuck everyone.  I dont give a shit about the morals of it but i want SR to be around for a long time and myself and many others fear it is going to bring alot of heat.

Here is an updated gawker article that was in another forum about guns on SR.
gawker.com/silk-road/
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: jackstraw on January 27, 2012, 10:20 pm
The guns should go.....
The DRUGS should stay.

Simple and to the point
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: guns4europe on January 27, 2012, 10:23 pm
The drugs should go.....
The GUNS should stay.

Simple and to the point
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: jackstraw on January 27, 2012, 10:27 pm
I bet if you do a pole and ask the community.   Who do you think wins?

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.  Spock said that and I think it could apply here too. 

Guns or drugs.....WHAT DO YOU CHOOSE Silk Roaders???
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: doctor on January 27, 2012, 10:31 pm
if you do a pole, you get a lot of dollar bills.

if you do a POLL you might get some opinions ;-)
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: jackstraw on January 27, 2012, 10:36 pm
Thanks Doctor....I knew that didn't look write.   LOL
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: snoopyblog on January 27, 2012, 10:39 pm
so what's hapenning? any news?
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: guns4europe on January 27, 2012, 10:46 pm
I bet if you do a pole and ask the community.   Who do you think wins?

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.  Spock said that and I think it could apply here too. 

Guns or drugs.....WHAT DO YOU CHOOSE Silk Roaders???
In the past polls the option of keeping guns on here won all the time.
You say democracy on Silk Road, I say ANARCHY on Silk Road!
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: gaia on January 27, 2012, 10:52 pm
Here is an updated gawker article that was in another forum about guns on SR.
gawker.com/silk-road/

Thanks for that. I noticed his post here last night asking for info. Seems he got enough.

There's no such thing as bad publicity eh? I doubt that in this instance. But we'll see.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: jackstraw on January 27, 2012, 10:53 pm
Given the option of keeping Drugs on SR or Guns on SR.....I HIGHLY doubt that Guns would win.   Maybe I'm just being a peaceful stoner but that's my thinking.  SR isn't about Anarchy.   SR says so himself.   It's all about Capitalism.     
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: gaia on January 27, 2012, 10:59 pm
I hope you're right man I really do. SR HAVE to change their stance now. And soon IMO.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: ianfleming on January 28, 2012, 02:12 am
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Guns don't kill people, other people kill people. In places where guns are banned for civilians, most homicides is done with axe, kitchen knife or bare hands. Banning guns does not prevent killing, it just makes it more bloody and violent.

Notice how Switzerland which has near compulsory gun ownership has a much lower crime rate than the U.K where almost every gun is illegal.
Coincidence, I doubt it.

How about Finland where there is no registration necessary for possession of machine guns or silencers. Hmm, and their crime rate is surprisingly low too.

See how this goes?
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: doublemint on January 28, 2012, 02:55 am
Against SR rules, if something went wrong that would be the end of this site. IE a kid buys a gun and kills 15 people at his high school. Yeah, the kid could of gotten the gun in real life also, but SR technically enabled him and the media would eat that shit up.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: piperatthegates on January 28, 2012, 04:14 am
so anyone know why silkroad is down ?



Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: echo_ on January 28, 2012, 05:14 am
Guns don't kill people, fucking assholes kill people.

Tone it down asshole, go smoke some weed.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: drpvmd on January 28, 2012, 08:28 am
there are things not allowed here right? like weapons of mass destruction and nuclear bombs so why not draw the line at things made to destroy and put guns on a different site.

theres been a couple of times in my life Ive had to borrow a gun from a friend for protection cuz I dont own one so Im not totally agaisnt them i just dont think they belong here and everyone would be happier. Those who want them can go to the other site. kill road or something
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: torlander on January 28, 2012, 05:10 pm
IMO meth and coke do far more harm then guns
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: doublemint on January 28, 2012, 05:23 pm
Guns don't kill people, other people kill people. In places where guns are banned for civilians, most homicides is done with axe, kitchen knife or bare hands. Banning guns does not prevent killing, it just makes it more bloody and violent.

Guns might be good profit for skilled sellers. If they will be sold on Silk Road I will buy a gun sometimes later.
Who the fuck cares about how people die? We don't wont guns here because they are way more taboo then drugs. Before we listed guns everyone thought "Silk road is just for drug addicts. They aren't hurting anyone." Now public opinion would be "Silk road is for homicidal maniac terrorists who are addicted to meth."
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: torlander on January 28, 2012, 05:39 pm
Guns don't kill people, other people kill people. In places where guns are banned for civilians, most homicides is done with axe, kitchen knife or bare hands. Banning guns does not prevent killing, it just makes it more bloody and violent.

Guns might be good profit for skilled sellers. If they will be sold on Silk Road I will buy a gun sometimes later.
Who the fuck cares about how people die? We don't wont guns here because they are way more taboo then drugs. Before we listed guns everyone thought "Silk road is just for drug addicts. They aren't hurting anyone." Now public opinion would be "Silk road is for homicidal maniac terrorists who are addicted to meth."

'taboo' is like, just your opinion, dude. And that would be the opinion of some biased liberal media, like the one on gawker, but not of the public.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: drpvmd on January 28, 2012, 05:59 pm
my point is you got bunch of sheep grazing in the grass doing fine and then you want to put a pit bull in the mix. why? why do we have to have this argument? Dont we have enough to deal with already? isnt there other places to buy guns?you dont see bombs or kiddy porn here so there is a line drawn here. its just out of place.  theres a much more clear and imo better place to draw it which is obvious by all this controversy. put another site up if you feel that strong about it. i know thats a big order just making a point.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: prsnnknwn on January 28, 2012, 06:03 pm
Consider SR as living entity, sum of parts, parts being are all those people involved in its existence. You have to give it some independence now, when it is no longer dependent on one persons decision (yes, I am sure, that there is no such thing as single SR Admin). If SR is mature and strong enough it will survive all the heat you can possibly throw at from press, LE or GOV. If it is not strong enough, then sooner we all know that, better for our safety and peace of mind.
Title: Re: More Guns on Silk Road!
Post by: doublemint on January 28, 2012, 06:29 pm
I bet if you do a pole and ask the community.   Who do you think wins?

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.  Spock said that and I think it could apply here too. 

Guns or drugs.....WHAT DO YOU CHOOSE Silk Roaders???
In the past polls the option of keeping guns on here won all the time.
You say democracy on Silk Road, I say ANARCHY on Silk Road!
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