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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: frankless2002 on April 01, 2012, 10:12 pm

Title: What do you think of this??
Post by: frankless2002 on April 01, 2012, 10:12 pm
Hello everyone, I´ve been thinking in a way to bring some goodies (say... 50ks) from southamerica to southern europe (Spain, Italy, France) and this is what i came up to:

1- Get a fake id or passport and rent a big house in a residential area, if it has concierge* service that´d be great (I´ll explain later)

2- Go to a local moving company (one that´s been on the market for a while) that offers overseas service and tell them you moved from... say Venezuela, costa rica, Ecuador... to where you are and that you want to bring some of your furniture and personal belongings (the goodies will come triple vacuum seal with active carbon and perfectly hidden in them). The thing is most of these companies offers an all in one service meaning they will package your goods from source, make all the paperwork to put them in a container and sending them from the source country, receiving this container at destination port doing again all the paperwork, and then loading your stuff in a van and delivering right to your rented house, where they unpack and check if everything is correct.

* If you`re afraid of receiving it by yourself, because you think here is where you gonna get busted and you have concierge service in your residential area you can get the concierge to receive it for you, (you should indicate this before to the moving company -making a excuse you´re not there at the date the stuff it´s going to come, but I´m not sure the moving company will agree with these as you have to check with them that everything arrived well at destination)

This is just a resume of the idea, I write this to hear your opinions on it, and if you see this could win or on the contrary will totally fail, please let me know as It´ll be better to be lol at than discover on my own when bubba offers me his protection and his dick in jail.

Also, anyone knows how long takes the container to get from South America to Europe by ship?

Thanks to everyone who comments (sorry for the english)
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: salomon on April 01, 2012, 11:47 pm
Container delivery time depends on who is delivering it and to exactly which country but average 4-12 weeks from south america to europe.
About your idea... i can tell You that it depends on many factors... exactly from which country in south america u will be shipping it and which country is destination.. it's really huge diffrence becasue of security measures that this countries have... It depends how many furniture u will ship, what kind, how exactly u will hide coke there etc etc... If u do it right , work on every detail it have a little CHANCE that u will sucseed but it can be sized too. It's really a lot of factors.. if u were never in drug smuggling buisness you will probably fail.. as u dont have any idea how shipping looks in details thru sea.. How exactly u need to secure your stuff, how customs work in source and destination country...
Second thing... if you are ordinary guy.. u will never get out from SA with 50 ks... if u dont have connections.. you will never leave south america and nobody will hear about u again.. or they will find u somewhere without head... it's not a buisness in which u go and ask somebody that u want 50ks of coke and u will get it just like that... i assure u that there was a lot of people like you before... If u were nerver in drug smuggling buisness then u have really little chances of getting that amount from SA to europe... or even leaving south america alive...
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: Damod78 on April 02, 2012, 01:36 am
I used to work for a company where we would import containers to the US from South Korea.  We would move around five 40' containers a month (oh yeah, it usually took around 4 weeks to get from asia to the east coast of the us so sa to europe should be around 2-3 weeks).  Only had one searched over a 5 year span, then again South Korea ain't really known to produce mass amounts of drugs for export like South America.

I do believe you would still be on the hook if customs found it because your name would be all over the bill of lading.

Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: Limetless on April 02, 2012, 02:10 am
Hello everyone, I´ve been thinking in a way to bring some goodies (say... 50ks) from southamerica to southern europe (Spain, Italy, France) and this is what i came up to:

1- Get a fake id or passport and rent a big house in a residential area, if it has concierge* service that´d be great (I´ll explain later)

2- Go to a local moving company (one that´s been on the market for a while) that offers overseas service and tell them you moved from... say Venezuela, costa rica, Ecuador... to where you are and that you want to bring some of your furniture and personal belongings (the goodies will come triple vacuum seal with active carbon and perfectly hidden in them). The thing is most of these companies offers an all in one service meaning they will package your goods from source, make all the paperwork to put them in a container and sending them from the source country, receiving this container at destination port doing again all the paperwork, and then loading your stuff in a van and delivering right to your rented house, where they unpack and check if everything is correct.

* If you`re afraid of receiving it by yourself, because you think here is where you gonna get busted and you have concierge service in your residential area you can get the concierge to receive it for you, (you should indicate this before to the moving company -making a excuse you´re not there at the date the stuff it´s going to come, but I´m not sure the moving company will agree with these as you have to check with them that everything arrived well at destination)

This is just a resume of the idea, I write this to hear your opinions on it, and if you see this could win or on the contrary will totally fail, please let me know as It´ll be better to be lol at than discover on my own when bubba offers me his protection and his dick in jail.

Also, anyone knows how long takes the container to get from South America to Europe by ship?

Thanks to everyone who comments (sorry for the english)

There are quite a few issues with this, if you want to discuss it further shoot me a PM.

Oh and your English is good btw!

Lim
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: Holly on April 02, 2012, 05:12 am
^ limetless knows his fucking shit, don't write him off by his misspelled username.  ;D
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: Limetless on April 02, 2012, 05:47 am
^ limetless knows his fucking shit, don't write him off by his misspelled username.  ;D

Haha cheers Holly, nice one. :)

Yeah as for the plan in the OP. Whilst you are generally heading in the right direction Frankless2002 your plan has a lot of holes in it which I could guide you on. As I said if you want to chat just shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: frankless2002 on April 02, 2012, 12:44 pm
Hi again everyone,

To reply salomon, getting that out of there, is no problem in this case scenario, what im trying to hear about are suggestions on how this could fail when arriving destination.

If a trusted moving company working for like 20 years or more in the business gets a container from wherever i dont think it will raise flags on it (specially when you dont load the full container and have to share the rest of the space with other deliveries - but i dont think they get to do so many moving fro SA to Europe so i think I´ll have to load the container only with my stuff).
Another thing that i´ve been researching is that in ports only flagged (by being suspicious or by a snitch or an investigation on individuals....) containers pass thru security measures, and between 3-7% of the rest go to security measures to, beacuse it is impossible to xray and walk with the dog thru every container in the port as there are thousands of them coming in and going out everyday.
In resume I think that the most important part of this is choosing the right moving company trusted over years so it wont be suspicious for anyone that this company order the load of a container in SA and sending to Europe.

As I dont really get to know a little bit anyone in here I´m a little esceptic on talking in detail about this but will give a try so anyone that want to help and add ideas to the original plan or show me this could fail, email me at frankless@tormail.net or PM me at frankless , jajajajaja I´ve never used TorPM but I´ll try to contact you limetless

Thanks again for the replies
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: Limetless on April 02, 2012, 01:35 pm
I just PM'ed you back. Let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: frankless2002 on April 02, 2012, 02:40 pm
I´d just PM you Lim, thanks for the info I like the latex thing you told me. I may add it to my plan... but waiting to know where the holes where.
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: CharasBros on April 02, 2012, 04:00 pm
I´d just PM you Lim, thanks for the info I like the latex thing you told me. I may add it to my plan... but waiting to know where the holes where.

Hiding drugs in furniture, wow classic !! Italians did last such shipment about 100 years ago!!
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: frankless2002 on April 02, 2012, 04:11 pm
I´d just PM you Lim, thanks for the info I like the latex thing you told me. I may add it to my plan... but waiting to know where the holes where.

Hiding drugs in furniture, wow classic !! Italians did last such shipment about 100 years ago!!

Who said anything about hiding drugs in furniture???? Read the complete post and add something interesting (if you can) to it.
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: CharasBros on April 02, 2012, 04:27 pm
soon on this forum will be more LE then ordinary users, how is that sound interesting to you
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: frankless2002 on April 02, 2012, 06:58 pm
So what you recommend? quitting silkroad and let them win?
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: CharasBros on April 02, 2012, 07:21 pm
I would recommend to learn more about how to identify undercover agents and tactics they are using, like what is agent provocateur, or what is Psy-Ops ect. Then make it clear to everyone and restrain from similar behavior, that will make undercover agents visible.
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: frankless2002 on April 02, 2012, 07:43 pm
I dont get it, what that has to do with the original post?
Maybe Im retarded but I dont get it hahahahaha r u saying Im a LE? or just triying to tell me to be careful with people in here because you see my post as a welcome to all these agents provocateurs?
BTW I know what agent provocateur is (I just google it ;))
Title: Re: What do you think of this??
Post by: CharasBros on April 03, 2012, 02:21 am
you asked me a question I given answer, original post, has nothing to do with