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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: flipside on March 17, 2012, 10:45 pm

Title: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 17, 2012, 10:45 pm
Greetings fellow Roader's

Although we intend to limit our presence on the forums, we would like to introduce ourselves as a new vendor.

We carry an extensive variety of interesting products that should satisfy the needs of most of those here on the Road.

We have been in business, online and otherwise, for nearly 20 years, and we intend to offer a wide-variety of interesting products for your "edification and amusement".

Please visit our profile page for more information:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a7613ed1db


Thank you.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 17, 2012, 11:41 pm
And shameless promotion:

Free Priority shipping for all orders over $75.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 18, 2012, 07:34 am
Man, this forum gets a lot of replies. 

Page 3 within 6 hours?

Shameless self Bump! ;)

Peace

the Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: mdmafx on March 18, 2012, 07:45 am
A link to your profile page might help:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a7613ed1db

Will you consider shipping internationally?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Bubble1986 on March 18, 2012, 07:48 am
Maybe it is just a little bit too hard to contact you. You don't accept a simple pm on SR. Your security rules and possible buyers have to accept this.
To get the things going you should maybe sent out some samples to longtime members of this forum to get some feedback!!!  :)

....no, i don't want any samples from you cause i am only interested in c & h. But i think this is the best possibility for you to get the thing going!

Regards

B.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 18, 2012, 08:19 am
RE: mdmafx

Thank you for your advice. We have done everything in our power to ensure each SR member has the information needed to contact us. From here on out we will post a link to our profile page as you suggested:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a7613ed1db

RE: Bubble1986

We feel the extra security methods it takes to contact us are well worth the effort for everyone involved.

And as explained in our "welcome" email, we will happily send out small amounts of free samples of any of our offerings for the $6 cost of priority shipping.

And will also post the "welcome" email you would receive from us here. (For a limited time only.)

And thank you for your advice. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

----

Greeting's Fellow Traveler's!

And welcome to the the Flipside.

As mentioned, it is our policy to designate each new customer a unique, randomly generated contact email. It has been specifically assigned to your account and is inheirently tied to your own email address. Save it, add it to your email client, but please do not post or otherwise share it anywhere or with anyone. If you do, your account will be deleted and we will be forced to reconsider your status as a customer. We honestly hope this never happens, but this is the only way we can ensure that we are able build a secure, individual relationship with each new customer.

Your designated contact email has also been assigned it's own unique GPG keypair, associated only with your account. Please do not share your new key with anyone. It will not work with any other customer accounts, and vice versa. Since GPG encrypted email is the only method of communication we are currently able to accommodate, we can unfortunately not respond to any requests to PM, IM, ect, for any reason.

We use industry standard security applications to protect your personal information and to safely and anonymously access our email and the Road. Please realize we are only able to access our email 2-3 times a week. Due to the limited amount of time we are able to spend online we will unfortunately be unable to have much of a public presence on the forums unless there is ever an issue we feel must be addressed publicly.

Our current selection and price list is posted below. Please do not post or share it anywhere or with anyone. Please understand we are truly unable to sell anything in amounts much larger than what we have posted. Although we aim to bring you a variety of interesting psychoactive's we simply do not have access to the bulk amounts of product many other vendors do. Yet, as we're sure you can tell, we regularly search current offerings from other domestic vendor's in order to bring you some of the most competetive prices around!

If you are a new customer and ready to place an order, please email us first and let us know so we are in GPG encrypted contact. Then place your order as usual.

Next to each of our products is a product code, including two letters and two numbers similar to "[IE-20]". This is how you will be able to differentiate between your various gifts when you receive them. Any similar looking or otherwise hard to distinguish products will always be individually labeled with their associated product code before being shipped. This can be particularly helpful if your order were to include two or more equal amounts of similar looking white powders that we Know And Love.

Please keep a copy of our price list and product codes to reference, preferably encrypted, and please delete all traces of our communications as soon as you are 100% satisfied with your transaction. Rest assured that we do. Your shipping details are always copy/pasted directly from your email to reduce the chances of any dispute over any shipping errors on our behalf.

Please remember never to type anything into the "subject" line of any emails. The subject line, like your email address, is never encrypted when being sent over the internet. Typing any details in the subject line could potentially compromise your security as well as our own.

At this time we only ship within the domestic US and offer one option for shipping; USPS Priority Mail with delivery confirmation (DCN), for an additional $6. The majority of the products we currently stock do not require vacuum sealing, and will therefore not be shipped in that manner. K-9 unit's within the domestic USA are quite simply not routinley trained to 'hit' on these items. Some exceptions to this rule are MDMA and hash. These products will always be double-vacuum sealed before shipping. Any other products we might stock from time to time that require vacuum sealing will of course also be vacuum sealed. Shipping days vary weekly for security reasons.

We of course use the trusted escrow system and only accept Bitcoin as payment. We can unfortunately not accept any other form of payment. As long as we are here on the Road, at the graciousness of our hosts, we intend to follow their rules.

We do not currently require "finalizing early" from our customers. However, if we feel we have a valid concern, we may choose to discuss your specific situation with you before processing your order. For the overwhelming majority this should never be an issue. This policy will continue as long as we can weather any financial losses we might incur due to those who may choose to abuse this policy. For now, we are choosing to have faith in the SR community at large. Just play nice goofball. :)

Please leave honest feedback about your purchase upon receiving your order, and please attempt to reach out to us privately before posting any negative feedback or reviews. We aim to provide some of the finest customer service available on the Road. We ask you address any concerns you may have with us privately, before you post anything publicly. It goes without saying that we ask you do not divulge any specific details about our shipping methods, for everyone's safety. 

Although we do our best to keep all of our products in stock whenever possible, the list posted below is primarily for you to reference product codes and place custom orders. We  list publicly all items that are currently available at any given time, however we intend to limit our public postings as much as possible. We would prefer you design and send us your own custom order, and we will post a custom listing for your order.

For example, if you would like to perhaps sample smaller amounts of certain item that might intrigue you before purchasing larger amounts. This gives you the ability to build your own unique order without relying on our public listings. We ask you place custom orders whenever possible in order to limit the amount of listings we must post publicily, and to keep this as private an endevour at possible. If you would like to place a custom order, just let us know. We will confirm product availability and post a custom listing for you. All custom listings currently have a $50 minimum.

Furthermore, we provide free priority shipping for all orders over $75.

Finally we occasionally send out updated price lists with any new changes and additions we might have, as our selection is always changing. If for any reason you choose to no longer receive any further communincations from us, just let us know.

Thank you,

And good luck in your journey's!

The Flipside Crew
 

========================================



HASH:


* Bubble Hash (1g)  - $35 -  [HA-01]

* Bubble Hash (0.5g)  - $20 -  [HA-05]


EDIBLES: 

* A variety of THC containing candy and other non-perishable edibles. Coming soon! [ED-01]


BENZODIAZEPINES:


* Valium 10 mg. - $2/each - [VA-01]

* Valium 10 mg. (50) - $1.50/each - [VA-50]

* Diazepam (1g) - $150 - [DI-01]

* Phenazepam (1g) - $100 - [PH-01]

* Xanax 2 mg. - [XA-01] (*temp out of stock*)


ARYLCYCLOHEXYLAMINES:


* Methoxetamine Hcl. (1g) - $30  - [ME-01]

* Ketamine Hcl. (1g) - $65 - [KE-01] (*temp out of stock*)


EMPATHOGENS:


* MDMA  (1g) - $85 - [MD-01] 

* Methylone (1g) - $35 - [M1-01]

* Methylone press-tabs (175 mg) - $7/each - [BU-01]  (*temp out of stock*)


TRYPTAMINES:

* LSD blotter (est.100-120µg)  - $7/each -  [LS-01]

* Psilocybe Cubensis (3.5g) - $25 - [PC-35]

* N,N DMT - (0.5g) - $60 - [DM-50]


PHENETHYLAMINES

* 2C-B press-tabs (20 mg) - $7/each - blue with "bee" logo  [BE-01] (*very limited stock*)

* 2C-B Hbr.  (500 mg) - $100 - [2B-50]
* 2C-B Hbr.  (250 mg) -  $55 - [2B-25]

* 2C-E (500 mg) - $100- [2E-50]
* 2C-E (250 mg) -  $55 - [2E-25]

* 2C-C (500 mg) - $100 - [2C-50]
* 2C-C (250 mg) - $55 - [2C-25]

* 2C-P (500 mg) - $100- [2P-050
* 2C-P (250 mg) - $55 - [2P-25]

* TMA2 (500 mg) - $110 -  [T2-50]
* TMA2 (250 mg) - $60 - [T2-25]

* TMA6 (500 mg) - $110 - [T6-50]
* TMA6 (250 mg) - $60 - [T6-25]

* MDPV  (1g) - $30 - [MV-10]


Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 18, 2012, 04:47 pm
RE:  Bubble1986

Please email us. Although we choose not to post it publicly, we can accommodate your H & C needs.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Bubble1986 on March 18, 2012, 04:55 pm
RE:  Bubble1986

Please email us. Although we choose not to post it publicly, we can accommodate your H & C needs.

Peace

The Flipside Crew

It seems that you are only shipping USA to USA. Correct?

If not, i send you my public pgp @tormail
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 18, 2012, 05:30 pm
At this time we only ship domestic, from the Us, to the US. 

We may however make exceptions, dependent on certain conditions. Please contact us for more information.

Thank you for your response.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 18, 2012, 07:50 pm
Shameless self promotion:

We'll send 3-5 hookers to your residence along with 5 Kilo's of Crack, 10 pounds of homegrown, some random powders that we Know And Love, and a few virgin's in terrorist heaven once we assassinate you.

Deal?

Peace

The Fli[side Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 18, 2012, 08:55 pm
Nobody?

Really?

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: element12 on March 18, 2012, 10:06 pm
Shameless self promotion:

We'll send 3-5 hookers to your residence along with 5 Kilo's of Crack, 10 pounds of homegrown, some random powders that we Know And Love, and a few virgin's in terrorist heaven once we assassinate you.

Deal?

Peace

The Fli[side Crew
tempting but the assassination part is what scared me away
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: MetalMan2 on March 18, 2012, 10:23 pm
RE: mdmafx

Thank you for your advice. We have done everything in our power to ensure each SR member has the information needed to contact us. From here on out we will post a link to our profile page as you suggested:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a7613ed1db

RE: Bubble1986

We feel the extra security methods it takes to contact us are well worth the effort for everyone involved.

And as explained in our "welcome" email, we will happily send out small amounts of free samples of any of our offerings for the $6 cost of priority shipping.

And will also post the "welcome" email you would receive from us here. (For a limited time only.)

And thank you for your advice. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

----

Greeting's Fellow Traveler's!

And welcome to the the Flipside.

As mentioned, it is our policy to designate each new customer a unique, randomly generated contact email. It has been specifically assigned to your account and is inheirently tied to your own email address. Save it, add it to your email client, but please do not post or otherwise share it anywhere or with anyone. If you do, your account will be deleted and we will be forced to reconsider your status as a customer. We honestly hope this never happens, but this is the only way we can ensure that we are able build a secure, individual relationship with each new customer.

Your designated contact email has also been assigned it's own unique GPG keypair, associated only with your account. Please do not share your new key with anyone. It will not work with any other customer accounts, and vice versa. Since GPG encrypted email is the only method of communication we are currently able to accommodate, we can unfortunately not respond to any requests to PM, IM, ect, for any reason.

We use industry standard security applications to protect your personal information and to safely and anonymously access our email and the Road. Please realize we are only able to access our email 2-3 times a week. Due to the limited amount of time we are able to spend online we will unfortunately be unable to have much of a public presence on the forums unless there is ever an issue we feel must be addressed publicly.

Our current selection and price list is posted below. Please do not post or share it anywhere or with anyone. Please understand we are truly unable to sell anything in amounts much larger than what we have posted. Although we aim to bring you a variety of interesting psychoactive's we simply do not have access to the bulk amounts of product many other vendors do. Yet, as we're sure you can tell, we regularly search current offerings from other domestic vendor's in order to bring you some of the most competetive prices around!

If you are a new customer and ready to place an order, please email us first and let us know so we are in GPG encrypted contact. Then place your order as usual.

Next to each of our products is a product code, including two letters and two numbers similar to "[IE-20]". This is how you will be able to differentiate between your various gifts when you receive them. Any similar looking or otherwise hard to distinguish products will always be individually labeled with their associated product code before being shipped. This can be particularly helpful if your order were to include two or more equal amounts of similar looking white powders that we Know And Love.

Please keep a copy of our price list and product codes to reference, preferably encrypted, and please delete all traces of our communications as soon as you are 100% satisfied with your transaction. Rest assured that we do. Your shipping details are always copy/pasted directly from your email to reduce the chances of any dispute over any shipping errors on our behalf.

Please remember never to type anything into the "subject" line of any emails. The subject line, like your email address, is never encrypted when being sent over the internet. Typing any details in the subject line could potentially compromise your security as well as our own.

At this time we only ship within the domestic US and offer one option for shipping; USPS Priority Mail with delivery confirmation (DCN), for an additional $6. The majority of the products we currently stock do not require vacuum sealing, and will therefore not be shipped in that manner. K-9 unit's within the domestic USA are quite simply not routinley trained to 'hit' on these items. Some exceptions to this rule are MDMA and hash. These products will always be double-vacuum sealed before shipping. Any other products we might stock from time to time that require vacuum sealing will of course also be vacuum sealed. Shipping days vary weekly for security reasons.

We of course use the trusted escrow system and only accept Bitcoin as payment. We can unfortunately not accept any other form of payment. As long as we are here on the Road, at the graciousness of our hosts, we intend to follow their rules.

We do not currently require "finalizing early" from our customers. However, if we feel we have a valid concern, we may choose to discuss your specific situation with you before processing your order. For the overwhelming majority this should never be an issue. This policy will continue as long as we can weather any financial losses we might incur due to those who may choose to abuse this policy. For now, we are choosing to have faith in the SR community at large. Just play nice goofball. :)

Please leave honest feedback about your purchase upon receiving your order, and please attempt to reach out to us privately before posting any negative feedback or reviews. We aim to provide some of the finest customer service available on the Road. We ask you address any concerns you may have with us privately, before you post anything publicly. It goes without saying that we ask you do not divulge any specific details about our shipping methods, for everyone's safety. 

Although we do our best to keep all of our products in stock whenever possible, the list posted below is primarily for you to reference product codes and place custom orders. We  list publicly all items that are currently available at any given time, however we intend to limit our public postings as much as possible. We would prefer you design and send us your own custom order, and we will post a custom listing for your order.

For example, if you would like to perhaps sample smaller amounts of certain item that might intrigue you before purchasing larger amounts. This gives you the ability to build your own unique order without relying on our public listings. We ask you place custom orders whenever possible in order to limit the amount of listings we must post publicily, and to keep this as private an endevour at possible. If you would like to place a custom order, just let us know. We will confirm product availability and post a custom listing for you. All custom listings currently have a $50 minimum.

Furthermore, we provide free priority shipping for all orders over $75.

Finally we occasionally send out updated price lists with any new changes and additions we might have, as our selection is always changing. If for any reason you choose to no longer receive any further communincations from us, just let us know.

Thank you,

And good luck in your journey's!

The Flipside Crew
 

========================================



HASH:


* Bubble Hash (1g)  - $35 -  [HA-01]

* Bubble Hash (0.5g)  - $20 -  [HA-05]


EDIBLES: 

* A variety of THC containing candy and other non-perishable edibles. Coming soon! [ED-01]


BENZODIAZEPINES:


* Valium 10 mg. - $2/each - [VA-01]

* Valium 10 mg. (50) - $1.50/each - [VA-50]

* Diazepam (1g) - $150 - [DI-01]

* Phenazepam (1g) - $100 - [PH-01]

* Xanax 2 mg. - [XA-01] (*temp out of stock*)


ARYLCYCLOHEXYLAMINES:


* Methoxetamine Hcl. (1g) - $30  - [ME-01]

* Ketamine Hcl. (1g) - $65 - [KE-01] (*temp out of stock*)


EMPATHOGENS:


* MDMA  (1g) - $85 - [MD-01] 

* Methylone (1g) - $35 - [M1-01]

* Methylone press-tabs (175 mg) - $7/each - [BU-01]  (*temp out of stock*)


TRYPTAMINES:

* LSD blotter (est.100-120µg)  - $7/each -  [LS-01]

* Psilocybe Cubensis (3.5g) - $25 - [PC-35]

* N,N DMT - (0.5g) - $60 - [DM-50]


PHENETHYLAMINES

* 2C-B press-tabs (20 mg) - $7/each - blue with "bee" logo  [BE-01] (*very limited stock*)

* 2C-B Hbr.  (500 mg) - $100 - [2B-50]
* 2C-B Hbr.  (250 mg) -  $55 - [2B-25]

* 2C-E (500 mg) - $100- [2E-50]
* 2C-E (250 mg) -  $55 - [2E-25]

* 2C-C (500 mg) - $100 - [2C-50]
* 2C-C (250 mg) - $55 - [2C-25]

* 2C-P (500 mg) - $100- [2P-050
* 2C-P (250 mg) - $55 - [2P-25]

* TMA2 (500 mg) - $110 -  [T2-50]
* TMA2 (250 mg) - $60 - [T2-25]

* TMA6 (500 mg) - $110 - [T6-50]
* TMA6 (250 mg) - $60 - [T6-25]

* MDPV  (1g) - $30 - [MV-10]

I'd be interested in benzos.  Maybe in the future some MDMA too.  I current have 2 orders out on MDMA but looking for benzo vendor.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 19, 2012, 01:15 am
RE: element12

The assassination offer is just a joke. And only if you fuck us, lol ... ;)

RE: MetalMan2

Please email us.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 19, 2012, 07:28 am
Bumpedy bump!

Need you look any further?

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 19, 2012, 05:09 pm
Shameless Discount offer: 10% off all orders for the next 3 days. ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: keldog09 on March 19, 2012, 05:24 pm
Quote
And as explained in our "welcome" email, we will happily send out small amounts of free samples of any of our offerings for the $6 cost of priority shipping.
If you'd like someone to do a good shroomery analysis for you I'll bite, but I ONLY go through escrow. Communicating via Tormail is cool though. I'll shoot you a message.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 19, 2012, 05:38 pm
You are welcome to a free sample to try (and preferably post) a shroom analysis for us! :)

Thank you.

Please email us.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 19, 2012, 05:40 pm
And we of course use escrow and follow all other rules the Road requires of us.

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: MetalMan2 on March 19, 2012, 10:04 pm
Seems I'm having GPG issues with you .. so I downloaded Thunderbird and configured it with PGP.  I sent you a new email from metalman@tormail.net  Let's try this again...
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 20, 2012, 03:12 am
Metalman:

We received your emails and will respond shortly.

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 20, 2012, 09:03 am
Rumor:

The Flipside provides the best customer service, quality, selection, and prices on the Road.

But that's just a "rumor". ;)

Peace 

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: keldog09 on March 20, 2012, 06:54 pm
Quote
You are welcome to a free sample to try (and preferably post) a shroom analysis for us!
A review would be posted in this thread of course.  8) I sent you an email using the instructions on your vendor page.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 20, 2012, 06:59 pm
And thank you keldog09 for your response! ;)

We have received, and replied to your email.

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 21, 2012, 01:51 am
Are you giving out any samples of your mdma or M1? I would cover shipping costs.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 01:59 am
Yes risky2:

We are offering free samples of all of our products, for the cost of shipping, for a limited time.

Please email us.

Thank you for your response.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Auguest West on March 21, 2012, 02:23 am
id be interested in purchasing some stuff and sampling some others, ill send ya a pm
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 02:44 am
Auguest:

Please email us using GPG instead of PM'ing us. We feel this is the safest method of communication.

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: msween27 on March 21, 2012, 02:51 am
I like the extra layer of protection... kinda "James Bond" like

EDIT:
Got the verification email just fine from flipside but wasn't able to decrypt the second messege from the other email?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 03:14 am
Yes, we take extra precautions we have learned over the years to protect our own security, as well as your own. ;)

We will re-send the second email msween.

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: msween27 on March 21, 2012, 03:20 am
yes, I could read the new email fine
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 03:41 am
Great to know msween! ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 21, 2012, 05:15 am
flipside I sent you a email from risky@tormail.net   Just letting you know.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 02:45 pm
risky:

We have received your email and will respond shortly.

Let us open our eye's, and perhaps eat some breakfast first please. ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: keldog09 on March 21, 2012, 06:54 pm
I sent you an email using the address in your vendor profile. The second email you sent me was unreadable (line error). No fear though, as you should be able to read the one I sent you.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 08:00 pm
keldog:

We are experiencing a "high" volume of requests at the moment. ;)

We will attend to your email situation as soon as possible.

Our apologies. :(

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 21, 2012, 08:50 pm
risky:

We have received your email and will respond shortly.

Let us open our eye's, and perhaps eat some breakfast first please. ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Like I said I was just letting you know. I'm not demanding you answer right away or trying to rush you. I'm sorry if my post came off like that. Take your time, I'm in no rush seriously.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 21, 2012, 11:52 pm
risky:

Your post did not come off 'in any way' negative or demanding. We appreciate your response!

And we have responded to your email.

Thank you for your patience. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 01:11 am
Went to pick up some valium off vendor "flipside".

New vendor, but seemed to know the GPG encryption ropes

Has a multitude of listings.

Vendor has 0 transactions

I put my order in the cart and checked out.

sent my GPG and vendor refused to do communicate using SR or SR forum even encrypted.

Vendor insisted on e-mail communication

I refused and cancelled the sale.

What do you think?

Possable LEO?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 02:16 am
Northside:

As we explained in our pm to you, we feel using GPG encrypted email is the safest method of communication.

We prefer not to rely on the SR server(s), it's PM system, or the 'acceptable' encryption and security methods SR employes.

Like many others here on the Road, we feel using GPG, preferably with Tormail, is the safest method of communication. We also feel the Tormail servers are less of a target to potentially get seized, compromised, or cloned by LE, compared to the SR server(s).

And yes, we do have a wide variety of well priced offerings for sale, as we have been in business for many, many years, both online and otherwise.

We are also offering free samples for the cost of shipping until we can establish our reputation. And of course we use escrow and follow all other rules the Road requires of us.

And potential LEO? If you ONLY knew my brotha'! ;)

But Northside, we do appreciate your concern.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 02:56 am
Sounds like you just admitted to being LEO to me......

Dunno how well SR is going to like you doing your business by e-mail either....
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 22, 2012, 02:57 am
I too had a error on the message of the second email you sent me when I tried to decrypt. The account key you sent me went thru fine. So I guess you have to resend second email message. no rush, heh.

And If you are LEO flipside. I'm a 16 year old kid that will just end up busted to a juvie hall if you catch me. lol. J/K  bad joke.  sorry just trying to break the paranoid tension in here.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: MetalMan2 on March 22, 2012, 03:00 am
Sounds like you just admitted to being LEO to me......

Dunno how well SR is going to like you doing your business by e-mail either....

SR PM's & Tormail.net via PGP are safe in both directions.  However .. the way that Flipside is communicating with PGP to me is safer.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 03:04 am
e-mail has always been more vulnerable, able to lead to other info that id's you

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 03:15 am
Northside:

Let's just agree to disagree. Although many here agree using GPG with email (especially Tormail) is safer than using the SR PM system, everyone is entitled to their opinion. And we both agree GPG is safest regardless.

So let's just leave it there my friend, ok? We wish for no confrontations here on the Road. :)

risky:

We will be in touch shortly.

Thank you for you patience.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 03:24 am
Agreed

to

Disagree
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: sashashulgin on March 22, 2012, 03:55 am
Agreed

to

Disagree

Northside, SR is not encrypted. If you were a vendor such as flipside who intends to do a good deal of business (considering their impeccable customer service and low price point) then by using PGP w/ tormail they remove any and all possible evidence for both themselves and their customers if SR were to get busted (knock on wood). It's actually admirable. Hypothetically if they can keep their price point and keep up with volume they may set a new security standard here on SR. They seem to be having a couple of issues with PGP keys at the moment (myself included) but as they've said they are working on it.

PS - I've been communicating with them for the past 24 hours in an effort to process an order and they have been nothing but great with their respond times and customer service.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 04:15 am
I had offered to use GPG encryption to correspond with them, just through SR not e-mail.

I only correspond with GPG encryption through SR and SR forum PM when it comes to transactions.

That is why I cannot do business with flipside.

Due to their policy of only using E-mail

I agreed to let it drop w/flipside

So lets do that

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 04:20 am
Agreed

to

Disagree

Northside, SR is not encrypted. If you were a vendor such as flipside who intends to do a good deal of business (considering their impeccable customer service and low price point) then by using PGP w/ tormail they remove any and all possible evidence for both themselves and their customers if SR were to get busted (knock on wood). It's actually admirable. Hypothetically if they can keep their price point and keep up with volume they may set a new security standard here on SR. They seem to be having a couple of issues with PGP keys at the moment (myself included) but as they've said they are working on it.

PS - I've been communicating with them for the past 24 hours in an effort to process an order and they have been nothing but great with their respond times and customer service.


Hmmm...9 posts and yet your so knowledgeable and willing to back a vendor with 0 successful transactions.....

LEO anyone?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 04:26 am
Sasha:

Thank you for your kind reply.

It was always kind of our "hope" we might provide some new, and benificial, security ideas that could be followed by other vendors on the Road.

We've been at this for quite a while and have a lot of experience to share, and that is our intention.

Our ongoing mission: To further protect and improve the security of the community at large.

Although we stand behind our security protocol's 100%, we will leave the "reliablity" of our unique security procedure's up to the SR community at large to decide for themselves.

Sasha: We are resolving your emails issues as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: nomad bloodbath on March 22, 2012, 06:18 am
I'll agree to disagree as well.
While your tech sounds revolutionary to some it sounds over redundant and unnecessary to others.
I can see where this sounds good but also where it isn't good as well.


:)
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 06:21 am
Thank You Nomad
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 22, 2012, 06:27 am
I'll agree to disagree as well.
While your tech sounds revolutionary to some it sounds over redundant and unnecessary to others.
I can see where this sounds good but also where it isn't good as well.


:)
nomad bloodbath

So Are you saying flipside is possible leo? Or Is your message just be careful?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 06:27 am
Nomad:

We would "highly" appreciate any comments you may have regarding our security protocols. That is why this forum exist's. To exchange ideas. :)

Developing new ideas to stay "one step ahead" is something our community has always been "very" well known for. ;)

We are by no means set in our ways or protocol's as a vendor, and are always open to new ideas that could be beneficial to anyone in the community; customers, vendors, and lurkers alike.

Please comment/advise if you feel. It would be appreciated! ;)

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 06:37 am
I'll agree to disagree as well.
While your tech sounds revolutionary to some it sounds over redundant and unnecessary to others.
I can see where this sounds good but also where it isn't good as well.


:)
nomad bloodbath

So Are you saying flipside is possible leo? Or Is your message just be careful?

What I took out of it was that there may be some merit to some of flipside's open mindedness toward improving security.

BUT

Your some of your "improvements" may not be good for SR


I personally thing Flipside tried to baffle with bull$hit to get buyers vulnerable for one reason or another.

Be it LEO or Phishing or whatever.......
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 06:45 am
northside:

I thought we agreed to leave this behind us?

We intend to prove over the coming weeks that we will be one of the finest vendors on SR. And yes, we are indeed always open to suggestions.

We intend to "baffle" no one, with bull$hit or otherwise. :(

northside: Please do not make any assumptions about us until we have further established our reputation.

Thank you. ;)

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 07:15 am
From what I understand you are no longer a vendor
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 07:43 am
Our vendor status has been "temporarily" suspended due to the fact we are "suspected of directing member's off-site", in conflict with the SR vendor contract.

We feel however it is simply a misunderstanding, and have already addressed the matter with the SR staff.

We hope to hear back from them soon, and have our vendor status restored in the near future.

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 22, 2012, 07:54 am
Use the established system, it works.

Make your money.

Be Happy.

If your a decent vendor it will all come out in the wash.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 22, 2012, 08:05 am
Thank you northside!

We appreciate your advice. ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 24, 2012, 08:03 am
Greeting's fellow Roader's!

We are pleased to announce that our vendor status has been restored!

It was simply a misunderstanding which we resolved with the amazing SR staff. ;)

Please send us a Private Message or visit our profile page for more information:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a7613ed1db

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 24, 2012, 03:10 pm
So ordering through the SR system with gpg encryption is accepted now?

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 25, 2012, 11:50 pm
Yes northside, (just to re-answer your question again in this thread), it was simply a misunderstanding with the SR staff which we quickly resolved. We have always accepted communications thru SR, but we feel our policies were perhaps not explained as well as they could have been in the past. We feel our policies regarding pm's, ect are now much better clarified on our profile page and elsewhere. We will continue, as we always have, to follow all rules expected of us a vendor here on the Road.

But the intention of this post is to explain that we here at The Flipside have always intended to eventually carry an extensive line of Cannabis/THC products. Everything from Marijuana to Hash to a wide variety of delicious THC containing candy and other non-perishable edibles. Since we opened on SR, we have offered a 'limited' number of these products, but not the full line of products we have always intended to.

Until recently, the individuals in charge of organizing that aspect of our business plan have not yet been fully prepared, security, or otherwise, to organize the supply and shipping of the full line of products we would like to offer. "At least, it's been that way til' now..."

Our "Cannabis, Hash & Edibles Division" is now open", and new products have been added both to our product list and our public listings.

After extensive planning and development (as has gone into every aspect of The Flipside business model) our Cannabis/THC Product line is posted below. Any self-requested price list updates, or new price lists sent to new customers will reflect these changes.

Our entire line of Cannabis/THC based products will be in permanent , steady stock.

Thank you,

The Flipside Crew

----------------------

MMJ:

We carry an ever-changing selection of only the very highest quality, top-shelf strains available to us at the moment.

MMJ - 1 gram - Indica - $20 - [MI-01]

MMJ -  1 gram - Sativa - $20 - [MS-01]

MMJ - 3.5 grams - Indica - $50 - [MI-35]

MMJ - 3.5 grams - Sativa - $50 - [MS-35]


HASH:


* Bubble Hash (1g)  - $35 -  [HA-01]

* Bubble Hash (0.5g)  - $20 -  [HA-05]


* Exclusive "Star-Master" Premium Hash - 1 gram - $50 - [SM-01]

* Exclusive "Star-Master" Premium Hash - 0.5 gram - $30 - [SM-05]

Our exclusive, "Star-Master" Premium Hash is made using a unique blend of various, top-shelf strains including Darkstar, GrapeApe, Bubba & Master Kush.

It is produced using a 100% organic, solvent-free, water-based extraction method, and is cured for a minimum of 3 weeks. Highly recommended!


EDIBLES: 

THC Lollipops -  50 mg. THC - Variety of fruity flavors - $12/each - [ED-01]

THC Gummy Bears - 80 mg. THC - Variety of fruity flavors. - $20 per bag. - [ED-02]

Cheeba Chews - 70 mg THC  - Sativa /Indica/Hybrid - $20 per bag. - [ED-03]

Our 'Edibles' product line will be expanding in the near future as we strive to bring you only the most unique, finest tasting, affordable, and highest quality THC containing edible products available on the MMJ market. We also fully expect our 'Edibles" prices to lower in the near future as we source cheaper suppliers and find new products to offer.

If you would like to place an order, or would simply like more information, please visit our profile page or send us a Private Message.

We hope you enjoy the new additions to our selection. We certainly do! ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 26, 2012, 10:48 pm
We have had many inquiries regarding our international shipping policies. Instead of continuing to explain them individually, we would like to clarify our policy here.

Our "Welcome" email has also been updated with this information.

----------------

We will consider international shipping on a case-by-case basis. Our international shipping policy is as follows:

You will have the ability to track your order from start to finish. However, if your order gets confiscated at customs, or for any other reason goes missing in the international mail system, you must assume all financial losses. Therefore we require "finalizing early" on all international orders. There are simply far too many variables and individual customs policies worldwide for us to guarantee delivery of your international order. Place an international order entirely at your own risk. Additional international shipping and tracking charges would obviously also apply.

However, we do use some very effective, "stealth" packaging techniques that should reduce the chances of any orders being intercepted at customs. Considering most of the items we offer are relatively small, and also due to the fact we are unable to sell anything in large amounts, most orders will ship in a "normal" looking (and normal "feeling") envelope. This should reduce the chances of interception at customs, as envelopes are far less scrutinized than packages. The unique packaging methods that we employ also allow us to ship pills inside an envelope without them being crushed by the "envelope rollers" commonly used by many mail delivery services world-wide.

----------

That's all folks. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew


Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 26, 2012, 11:37 pm
what strain name is your sativa? just wondering.. no rush, take your time, heh. And you know how much I love playing 'tormail tag' with you. lol. Freaking encryptin, decryptin, grrrr. I know, I know, security matters out there, just kidding.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 27, 2012, 12:27 am
Risky:

A few members of our team live in states with Medical Marijuana laws. Between them and our many personal grower connections, we have access to pretty much "any" strain available.

We are currently not offering to "search out" specific strains, since that would be "extremely" time consuming. But if you were interested in, for example, a Sativa, we could at least offer you a few different strains to choose from. Just ask, although options change regularly. So your choice of strain is (to an extent) up to you. :)

But our "house" stock at any given time is an ever-changing selection of only the highest quality, top-shelf MJ available to us at the moment. They are strains that we "personally" prefer, so they are always, of course, quality. And you always have the choice of Indica, Sativa, or even a Hybrid.

Our MMJ connections are also what allows us to bring you the delicious new edibles we are now offering.

And yes, "Tor-tag" is fun. ;)

But we're almost there. We got you risky!

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Sunmaid on March 28, 2012, 11:48 pm
Do you not have any listed transactions/feedback because of the way you handle orders through email?

Or is it because of your vendor status recently being revoked and there hasn't been a chance for new feedback to be sent in?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: technofarm on March 29, 2012, 12:29 am
just purchased one 20mg 2B-C pill from this vendor.  They seem very friendly and accommodating. 

If they are LEO i'll let you guys know... I think busting me for ordering 1 pill of 2C-B is highly unlikely,  especially since I don't do any other drugs or sell them. 

anywho i'll validate this vendors status when I get my product - probably early next week. 

Peace! 

Good luck flipside. 
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: steaksauce on March 29, 2012, 01:23 am
Zero reviews in this forum in 12 days? Surely someone got something, or are people getting doors kicked in?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 29, 2012, 06:04 am
Do you not have any listed transactions/feedback because of the way you handle orders through email?

Or is it because of your vendor status recently being revoked and there hasn't been a chance for new feedback to be sent in?

Sunmaid,

It's a little bit of everything you mentioned.

The reason you cannot see any of our "custom listings" (as technofarm can confirm) is because we list them as "stealth listings" to reduce exposure for your own safety, as well as our own. We also 'intentionally' mis-label and mis-catagorize your custom order as something legal and benign. No need to broadcast to the world (and LE) that you are ordering a Sch I substance, no? Just another extra security precaution we take out of concern for your own security, and also the reason we ask you place custom order whenever possible. This also keeps the specifics of your order known only between yourself and us, and only encrypted using GPG and Tormail.

We have also only been in business on SR for around a week, with 2 days of "downtime". There is also a lot of competition here on the Road, and trying build a reputation as a new vendor here is truly an uphill battle. We have spent a lot of time answering questions from members, and helping potential customers safely communicate with us via GPG. It is only within the last day or two we have even received our first orders for samples and custom listings. We also have a few orders pending from publis listings, but as we have explained to these buyers, it will be a day or two until we will be able to ship their orders.

Technofarm's sample was our first and only order we have sent out so far. And he should also be providing us our first "transaction" and "feedback" review once he receives his order. We have asked him, as we have asked all potential customers, to be nothing short of completely honest when placing feedback. We are certain our product quality, security/shipping protocols, and customer service will speak for themselves over the coming weeks.

We hope this answers your questions Sunmaid.

Thank you for your concern. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Sunmaid on March 29, 2012, 11:00 pm
We hope this answers your questions Sunmaid.

Thank you for your concern. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Yes it does, thanks for the response. You seem like a promising vendor, I think zero transactions is just a little offputting. I hope to do business in the future, would offer to sample some product but I'm pretty new and unkown here and not very experienced at all with the stuff you have to offer.
Hope you get some reviews in soon, good luck.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 30, 2012, 02:52 pm
still 0 transactions and 0 reviews....


something seems amiss....

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: technofarm on March 31, 2012, 12:09 am
still 0 transactions and 0 reviews....


something seems amiss....
actually i ordered 1 2c-b tab off him and it arrived today. 

packaging - 5/5  - great packaging very stealthy and well done
shipping - 5/5 - this product came in two days!
product - still have to try it, but should be good

flipside crew even threw in some valium for the comedown.

taking this tonight and pretty excited. 

flipside is legit
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 31, 2012, 01:18 am
Glad to hear it made it to you on time technofarm! I know we both had our fingers crossed. ;)

Have fun tonight! I know you will. 2C-B is a personal favorite among many heads I know, myself included.

Enjoy! :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: MetalMan2 on March 31, 2012, 04:06 am
Greeting's fellow Roader's!

We are pleased to announce that our vendor status has been restored!

It was simply a misunderstanding which we resolved with the amazing SR staff. ;)

Please send us a Private Message or visit our profile page for more information:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a7613ed1db

Thank you.

The Flipside Crew

I had a sample order placed, but it was never shipped. .. so I cancelled it.  What's up with that?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 31, 2012, 06:32 am
I had a sample order placed, but it was never shipped. .. so I cancelled it.  What's up with that?

MetalMan,

As we also explained in another post, and via email, our new MDMA shipment is going to be delayed a moment and we will inform you once your sample is ready to ship. We haven't forgotten about you! :)

Unfortunately, it seems that nearly $1000 we had invested in our new MDMA shipment last week has unfortunately (and quite mysteriously) temporarily gone "missing". Rest assured we are working very hard on rectifying the situation as soon as possible, and expect to have MDMA ready to ship (one way of another) sometime this week. The "description" in our public MDMA listing also reflects this fact. 

All members that have asked to be informed when this product is back in stock will be notified. No worries my friend! We will be in touch shortly. ;)

We apologize for the delay.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on March 31, 2012, 03:13 pm
Well you finally got your first positive feedback/review

I just wish it was from a mod. or something, little more creditable ya know.

Hmmm......9 posts a day.......
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on March 31, 2012, 04:03 pm
Hey north Think I'm going to try to get some samples from flip soon. I post on forums every day (Forum addict). So If I don't post for awhile, that means I'm busted. But I will review if able to. I really don't get a feeling from flipsides emails to me that he is LEO. He seems to me to have his shit together. Yeah he's doing some things unusually, but let me put it this way. IF he was LEO he would probably do business as usual as the other vendors do. HE is going out of his way to ADD more layers of security. I think a LEO would try to blend in more with standard practices.

Being careful and cautious with new vendors is good, but remember there's healthy paranoia, and then there's 'tin foil hat' paranoia.  Watch out for the shiny metal head ...j/k. I think you mean well north seriously, but let's just wait and see.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on March 31, 2012, 04:41 pm
risky:

Rest assured we haven't forgotten about you. We've just been very, very busy lately. But we got you. No worries! :)

And I've also been meaning to mention that very same thing. If LE were to try and pose as a vendor here (highly unlikely) they "would" indeed most likely try to 'blend in' instead of "stirring things up" like we apparently seem to be doing lately, lol. Well, to an extent. :)

And our methods are "truly" not that unusual. It's pretty simple. If you choose, we give you a public key and an email to contact us using GPG. That is quite normal.

I could be wrong, but I also sometimes get the feeling that for many members here, finding and using SR "may" have been one of their first introductions into the online drug-dealing scene. And SR has done things "their" way for a year or so now.We feel many people might just assume that the methods SR employes are either the "correct" or the "only" way to do things, when in fact, our methods of using GPG encrypted email have been used for far, FAR longer. They are time-tested, proven-effective, and vendor approved by some of the finest vendors we have the pleasures of knowing.

We not trying to re-invent the wheel here. We're just trying to intergrate the welcome new methods that SR employs (Tor, ect) with those methods that have pretty much "always" been used since the inception of this scene. And we should always be working on improving the industry-standards we use to stay "one step ahead", as the need always arises. Just as it was once safe to use Hushmail, ect, times are always changing, and the precautions we take must change with the times, vulnerabilaties, and technology that WILL be used against us in the future.

I think also perhaps some people are "over-thinking" all of this just a little too much. Although indeed a healthy amount paranoia is ALWAYS a good thing. And I am truly happy that so many have expressed their comments and concerns. That is why I created these threads in the first place. To get the input of the community. Because it is only with the help of the community that we can hope to continue to improve the methods we all use to ensure the ongoing security of all players in this game. World-wide!

That is all. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: northsidepk on April 01, 2012, 02:58 pm
Hey north Think I'm going to try to get some samples from flip soon. I post on forums every day (Forum addict). So If I don't post for awhile, that means I'm busted. But I will review if able to. I really don't get a feeling from flipsides emails to me that he is LEO. He seems to me to have his shit together. Yeah he's doing some things unusually, but let me put it this way. IF he was LEO he would probably do business as usual as the other vendors do. HE is going out of his way to ADD more layers of security. I think a LEO would try to blend in more with standard practices.

Being careful and cautious with new vendors is good, but remember there's healthy paranoia, and then there's 'tin foil hat' paranoia.  Watch out for the shiny metal head ...j/k. I think you mean well north seriously, but let's just wait and see.

Hey dont make fun of my hat!!!

LOL

I hear ya, make sure and post up some reviews.

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on April 03, 2012, 11:09 am
Flipside Ive sent you like 3 unanswered emails on tormail, and I'm starting to feel like a stalker or something, LOL.

Ummm so hope you can reply back some time, just checking in.

( God The things I do for samples.....man, I really am a cheap ass bastard......heh ::::sighs::::)
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on April 03, 2012, 07:53 pm
Ok I got your recent tor mail flipside, looking good. I can almost see those samples now. Its going to happen I think.

 Can't wait. er Actually I can and have been waiting, heh. You know what I mean I think.

I'll try to keep everything to tor mail, I was just wondering what was going on before.  I don't feel 'jilted' anymore. LOL.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 03, 2012, 10:29 pm
As stated on our profile page, in our "Welcome" email, and in each of our public listings; due to certain security precautions we take, we are only able to access our email and the Road 2-3 times a week and will take between 0-72 hours for you to receive a reply once contacting us.

Although for now, and until we can further establish our reputation, we intend to spend more time than usual checking our email, pm's, and the Road in general.

We just wanted to make this fact very clear from the very start so potential customers don't feel like we may be ignoring them.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on April 04, 2012, 12:55 am
As stated on our profile page, in our "Welcome" email, and in each of our public listings; due to certain security precautions we take, we are only able to access our email and the Road 2-3 times a week and will take between 0-72 hours for you to receive a reply once contacting us.

Although for now, and until we can further establish our reputation, we intend to spend more time than usual checking our email, pm's, and the Road in general.

We just wanted to make this fact very clear from the very start so potential customers don't feel like we may be ignoring them.

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Sorry I forgot about that up to 72 hours thing. Heh, I probably got impatient cause I was doing speed on saturday lol. Guess Im still a bit still 'ramped up'. And now Flipside is going " OH that's why all those emails....."
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: MetalMan2 on April 04, 2012, 03:22 am
Still waiting for you to catch up with me ....
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 04, 2012, 09:24 am
MM and others,

We prefer you reach us either via email or pm (however we me may currently be in contact) in order to discuss your sample request or order. Each customer has their own individual needs and requests and we are doing our very best to accommodate them all. We get back to everyone as promised as soon as we have an update to each members unique situation/request.

MM, in your case, we should have an update for you later today. Please check your inbox at that time.

Additionally, in regards to the couple of products we have had unexpected delays in re-stocking, we have put their associated public listings in temporary "stealth mode". We are fully expecting these products to be back in stock tomorrow. However, until our re-shipper has actually received them, their listings will remain out of view to the public until that time. And those that have already contacted us re: these products, you will be the first to be informed when they are back in stock.

Thank you,

The Flipside Crew.


Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: donut on April 05, 2012, 12:52 am
I don't usually reply to forum post's I'm more of the reader type. At this time I am just a buyer here on the road. And one day I will open a seller account, but would like to warn everyone. Anyone saying  "If LE were to try and pose as a vendor here (highly unlikely)" while trying to keep himself as secure as flipside does just doesn't make sense. Everyone knows that the ones who are vulnerable on here are the buyers. And it seems VERY Likely that there will be LEO's posing as sellers .  I would love to order some of the products that Flipside has to offer, but until he has some more positive reviews Im just not comfortable. Flipside you need to get on those samples ASAP. And dont cover up the transactions you have done. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: donut on April 05, 2012, 12:57 am
Also I don't understand why he can only answer emails 2 or 3 times a week but he can reply to this thread 2 or 3 a day. LOL  :o
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 05, 2012, 09:58 am
Donut,

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Also I don't understand why he can only answer emails 2 or 3 times a week but he can reply to this thread 2 or 3 a day. LOL

As we stated just a few post's prior:

"Although for now, and until we can further establish our reputation, we intend to spend more time than usual checking our email, pm's, and the Road in general."

And regarding:

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Everyone knows that the ones who are vulnerable on here are the buyers

To quote from another thread addressing this very subject, along with one of our policies:

"it is the general consensus that it is FAR more likely for LE to pose as a buyers to bust vendors here, than the other way around. There are many threads dicussing this matter. In all reality, WE have FAR more to worry about then buyers in this concern. Which, as explained, is one of the primary reasons we implement this policy in the first place.

And in that light, we feel the benefits of this policy outweigh the concern of LE possibly posing as a vendor, then using this policy to bust small time buyers. It is our outright policy that we do not (and cannot) sell in bulk. And bulk buyers are the only buyers that federal or international agents would be interested in."

So unless we were a Federal or International LE agency with the desire, budget, or manpower to invest in busting random 'small time' buyers (since we do not [and cannot] sell in "bulk") on the Road....well...just lol really... :) geeshhh...

We, on the other hand, MUST assume EVERYONE we speak with could be LE at ALL times. Any LE agency with the budget and desire to investigate a site like SR, with the expertise and resources needed to pursue ANY users on a site protected by Tor and (in our case) GPG, would CERTAINLY not be interested in "small time" buyers...especially with orders being shipped world-wide. Imagine the amount of international co-operation that would be required between international LE agencies...just to bust small-time buyers? Seriously? You are entitled to your opinion, however we, along with many, MANY others, beg to differ.

The only reason the DEA ect, EVER go after "small time" buyers in the "real world" is so they can (hopefully) rely on CI's to work their way up to the bigger dealers, something they are COMPLETELY unable to do with the industry-standard security precautions most vendors employ on the Road. Therefore the entire concept of LE posing as vendors on the Road with the intention of busting small tome buyers is, in our opinion, ludicrous. They would be FAR more likely to be posing as BUYERS going after VENDORS..."obviously"...this has been discussed to death. And is also our personal opinion...

Additionally, although we have had some unexpected delay's in re-stocking some of our most highly requested products, we are 99% certain our next shipment of LSD, DMT, and MDMA will begin shipping on Friday, Saturday at the latest. And we are in the process of informing all of our customers of this very fact.

We intend to let our selection, product quality, security protocols, customer service, and buyer feedback to speak for themselves over the coming weeks in order to establish our reputation. We fully expect by this time next week (after all customers receive their orders from our new shipment), with LSD and DMT being our most highly requested products, that we will have a plethora of positive feedback within the next week.

And we have been offering free samples (for a limited time) since we opened for business nearly two weeks ago. We can't force people to accept them. And the choice to have your custom listing posted as a "stealth" listing and posted as something completely legal and unrelated to your 'actual' order is a customers personal choice. We feel there is no need to proclaim to the world (and LE) that you are ordering X-amount of a Sch. I substance openly on this website, especially in the unfortunate case of an attack, seizure, or cloning of the SR server(s) by LE. The same reason we recommend all personal shipping information only be relayed using GPG, instead of relying solely on the "unknown", and non-publicly revealed encryption methods that SR sues to protect your personal information. Therefore we offer this option for buyer security alone, if they choose. Customer satisfaction and safety are our top 2 priorities.

And posting "stealth" listings at a customer's request does not reflect upon our "actual" number of publicly posted transactions or feedback. That information is freely available on "any" vendors profile page.

And at this point, I'd be "very" curious why a very small, but vocal, group here on the forums continue to suspect and insinuate we are LE? We can only assume (as we have expressed extensively in other threads) that it might perhaps be competing, established vendors threatened in some way by the very competetive prices we intend to offer here on the Road. We also feel this is the reason we have received the majority of the negative "karma" we have received. We have been nothing but polite, helpful, and informative since opening shop here on the Road.

And if you ONLY knew my friend. SWIM has been published in "The Entheogen Review" for being the first in the world to write a trip report on the effects of, at the time, an unexplored NMDA-Antagonist. Also published on Bluelight and Erowid as well. Among many, MANY others.

This was also one reason we seriously considered whether or not we should offer our full range of products (and the very reason we have not as of yet). We didn't want to come off or seem "too good to be true". Particularly considering some of the prices we are currently offering on some of our products.

Regardless, we have had had hundreds of inquiries and an ever-growing number of orders every day.

Please give us a chance before jumping to conclusions. Although we would still be very curious to know why 'anyone' seems to think we may be LE. Seriously. We NEVER get an answer. Please explain. No other new vendios seem to receive this treatment. and we quite simply lofao. ;)

We will simply let time speak for itself, and determine the reputation we intend to establish here on the Road. And next week, will be an ENTIRELY different week.

We shall see...

But thank you for your concern Donut,

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Addy on April 09, 2012, 04:37 am
May I ask why you have been here for more than three weeks now but only have two transactions? Surely more than two of your fifty-nine fans have ordered one of your (domestic) listings and received them? I'm sorry, it's just strange to me.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 09, 2012, 06:02 am
Patience my friend....Time will tell. ;)


Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 12, 2012, 04:17 am
Greetings friends! :)

This is a general announcement to all potential customers that have contacted us regarding the availability of various products either via PM or GPGmail.

Being as we are still a relatively new vendor "here" (on the Road) we have been swamped with requests lately, and had some other unexpected delays. Until we can figure out the best way to keep all of those that have contacted us updated, we would like to do a "General public update" here.

We think we have replied to 'most' of our PM's and Emails, but we truly do not want anyone to feel they have been 'forgotten'. We are honestly doing our very best to reply to our new customer-base here on the Road as quickly as we possibly can.

[Also please notice on our Profile page that we are now receiving our first positive feedback/transactions, with many more to come in the near future. We are happy!] ;)

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1. Please visit our newly "updated" Profile page for our current "International Shipping" and "Ordering and Communication" policy before ordering.

2. Please read our listing "Description" before placing an order for our current batch of 2 mg. Xanax.

3. Due to unexpected financial constraints, our "THC Edibles" should be available for shipping within a week. We apologize for the delay.

4. Due to similar financial constraints, along with awaiting returns on certain investments, our stock of LSD, MDMA, and N,N DMT will be "out-of-stock" until further notice. We are truly hoping it shouldn't be much longer than a week. Although we have multiple, reliable suppliers for each of these products, fx, our current MDMA supply is not up to our "quality" standards for re-sale. The LSD and DMT are both looking 'promising' within a week, but no promises. That is all we can say at this time.

We are also doing our best to re-stock products like Mushrooms, MJ, Ketamine, MXE, 5-MEO-DMT, 2CT-2, Fentanyl, Oxy 80's (among others) in the near future as well. Please check "here" or our public listings for future  information on the upcoming availability on all of these products.

5. All other 14 products that 'are' currently in-stock and available for immediate shipping are viewable on our Profile page.

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We appreciate the patience of all those that have contacted us, and are truly doing our best to keep everyone updated as best as we can.

Once again, we intend to establish ourselves amongst the finest vendors here on the Road. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: dudeguy551 on April 13, 2012, 07:05 pm
I am interested in your xanax samples but find you a little sketchy.

Also, just want to throw in my 2 cents, but e-mail servers are the most frequently and easily rooted which is why hackers attack email databases in an effort to obtain passwords to access the real servers, hence, no matter the encryption, they are most easily compromised. At least this is how I feel.

There is a reason that silk road asks that no buyer maintain connections outside of silk road, FOR OUR PROTECTION. Disobeying this one simple rule and not relying on the security of silk road itself is an obvious violation of the rules in place to protect the buyers.

With all that said, if someone can vouch for you then I will still consider giving it a go as your deal is nice... almost too nice but nice.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on April 13, 2012, 07:24 pm
Flipside is legit, I got my samples (.4gram of chocolope sativa and 3 tabs of 2c-b ) today. Its gonna be a fun weekend. I will further review the products after having my white lab rats go thru their tests and a complete spectrum analysis under my electron microscropes. There will be bars, graphs, charts, and......

lol, had you going there... Um I will report back with further details. Over and out fellow space cadets.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 13, 2012, 11:35 pm
I am interested in your xanax samples but find you a little sketchy.

Also, just want to throw in my 2 cents, but e-mail servers are the most frequently and easily rooted which is why hackers attack email databases in an effort to obtain passwords to access the real servers, hence, no matter the encryption, they are most easily compromised. At least this is how I feel.

There is a reason that silk road asks that no buyer maintain connections outside of silk road, FOR OUR PROTECTION. Disobeying this one simple rule and not relying on the security of silk road itself is an obvious violation of the rules in place to protect the buyers.

With all that said, if someone can vouch for you then I will still consider giving it a go as your deal is nice... almost too nice but nice.
 

dudeguy,

Thank you for your concern. If you read our profile page you will see we offer communication both thru the SR PM system as well as GPG encrypted email. We are not breaking any rules and have discussed this matter weeks ago with the SR staff.

Many vendors here offer GPG encrypted contact as an added layer of security at a customers request. The majority of our customers absolutely prefer GPG encrypted contact, both to further protect their personal shipping information, as well as ongoing communications with us.

Our method of assigning individual Tormail contact addresses (along with unique GPG key pairs) to each new customer account means all encrypted information is shared only via a unique email and public key (known only between us and each individual customer). This email address (and public key) are, besides being near "impossible" to guess, are also a FAR less likely target for LE than the SR server.

All of the reasons behind this and all of our other policies have been explained "exhaustively" both here and in our "New Vendor" thread in "Product offers", as well as multiple other threads on this forum. Contact and ordering via GPG encrypted email is also the way things have been done since the inception of this scene, many, MANY years ago. SR have been doing things "their way" for about a year or so now in comparison, and it is only because they choose to take a commission that the SR system is even in place, well, in the first place. :)

We completely agree SR should get their cut for providing and maintaining this amazing marketplace, but that in no way means their is system is in any way more "secure" or "correct". We simply "compliment" the security they already have in place (Tor, ect), with the time-tested encryption that GPG provides. Just like many other vendors.

We can also list 2 instances so far (just since we have been open here on the Road) where this policy has proven invaluable for the safety of all of our customers. We can elaborate when we have a bit more time. We have quite simply been swamped lately.

Please read some quotes from our " Ordering and Communications" policy (posted below) to help better understand this policy perhaps?

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And Risky,

We are very happy you received your samples safely! Be sure to post a review if you like. Enjoy! :)

And dudeguy,

Feel free to PM us if you have any more questions regarding your concerns "after" reviewing the threads and posts we referenced first. There is no need (or desire) for us to keep retyping the same thing over and over. It gets redundant and time-consuming, both for ourselves, as well as readers of this forum.

Rest assured that all of our policies serve a "very" well thought through, and time-proven purpose.

Thank you. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

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Due to the fact that SR does not reveal enough information publicly for us (or anyone) to completely understand (and therefore fully trust and rely solely upon) the encryption methods they use to protect your personal shipping information, we feel by 'complimenting' the known security protocols SR already uses (Tor, ect.) with an Opensource encryption application like GPG (widely accepted as the de-facto standard), has the potential to greatly increase the overall security for all potential customers, as well as our own.

So our policy on this matter is this: If you intend to ONLY buy from us thru our public listings, and have no need to discuss any "sensitive" matters with us, then you can just place your order as usual thru any of our public listings, send us your shipping details using the SR ordering system, and continue to contact us via PM.

As this policy allows all members to continue to use their preferred method of doing business here on the Road, we feel it is a fair compromise for all customers wishing to do business with us, while still allowing us to keep our own security up to the standards we feel necessary.

The choice is entirely up to you, but if for any of the reasons explained above, GPG encrypted contact is required of you, or if you would simply prefer to use GPG yourself (which we highly recommend), then just attach your public key to a blank email, with an empty subject line, and send it to: 

TheFlipside@tormail.net

You will receive a response within 0-72 hours. At that time you will also receive the unique public GPG key which will be specifically assigned to your account. This is the only key you will need to communicate with us.

We can unfortunately not reply to unencrypted emails or any communications from Hushmail. We highly recommend using GPG with Tormail.net.

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on April 15, 2012, 11:07 pm
Here's my review of samples of chocolope sativa and 2-cb. First off man do they go great together. Like peanut butter and jelly, heh. The trip on 2c-b of 20mg tab was about 4 hours and change, with the peak hitting at the 3 hour mark. The body load or "body buzz" was good and strong, and the visuals really kicked in at the peak. The visuals were great with some fractals, pattern shifting, some trailing, and some time distortion. The really great thing about the trip was the mental calmness and control, no ego loss or 'identity reconstruction' like you could get from shrooms or lsd. The comedown was great too, and I was pleasantly surprised I was able to ease into sleep about an hour after the peak. No hangover effects at all.

The chocolope was a great stimulating heady high. I swear my forehead was tingling. It was a great uplifting almost spiritual high. And yes there was a chocolate flavor to the smoke, heh. I hope I can get  a gram or 2 of this strain in the future.

Thanks for the samples flipside, they get a thumbs up from me.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 15, 2012, 11:37 pm
Glad you enjoyed the 2C-B risky! :)

It is indeed for all the 'very' reasons you explained above that it is (at times) preferable to LSD, Mushrooms, ect, by many.

"Really" nice body buzz (ala, MDMA), less of a heavy "head" trip than L, really pretty OEV's, overall shorter trip duration (compared to L at least) ect. It's just an "all-time favorite" of many. Closer to "candy-flipping" (only shorter lasting) than anything.

And glad you liked the Chocolope (a 95% Sativa) too...and the combo in general. ;)

Thanks for the honest review risky! We hope to hear from you in the future!

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 16, 2012, 12:27 am
flipside I don't understand.

the way you're talking in the other two posts makes it seem like GPG can only be used through email.

I send my GPG encrypted address to vendors on here, and GPG encrypted messages through the PM system all the time.

It's still the same GPG... right? I still access the site through tor. What makes e-mail more preferable than just using SR's means of communication?

If I order from you, and you assign me an e-mail address, I'll never use it.
Also, whats wrong with the key that I generated myself, and use to contact every other vendor on this site?
Hello pipedreams,

We think you may have misunderstood us. Please re-read the posts you mention. We are well aware that GPG can be used in a variety of ways. The Firefox Add-on "FireGPG" in particular would allow us to address the instances you reference.

It is from YEARS of experience that we have found it MUCH easier to "consolidate" and keep all customer requests, questions, orders, ect, all organized in ONE place. This allows us to respond to our customers in the most consistent and timely manner we possibly can. For simplicity's sake (because it truly is A LOT of work running a business like this) we have found it simplest to keep all of our GPG encrypted information in one place, i.e, our email client. Since going 'live' on SR we must now also accommodate PM's as well, which has further complicated our organization methods.

To address this issue, we have asked the SR staff to possibly install a "Bulk" Download/Upload feature for PM's, just as we can do with our emails. This would "significantly" reduce the amount of time we must spend "exposed" online, which in turn reduces our chances of ever being traced, which in turn further protects YOUR own security as a customer.

As you can read on our Profile page or any of our listings, you are NOT required to use GPG to contact or order from us. It is simply by customer request, for the sake of organization on our end, and to provide the best possible customer service we can, that GPG encrypted email is our (and most of our customers) preferred method of GPG encrypted contact. All this considering the fact that the SR server is a MUCH more likely target for LE than the unique contact email/public key our customers are assigned, known only between us and them.

Please try and 'search' a bit before posting. We have gone over this policy 'more' than a few times in various posts/threads. The majority of our customers appreciate the extra security precautions we take on their behalf. It is indeed more work on our end, but "well" worth the extra effort, in our opinion, for everyones security. :)

By being in GPG email contact with us, we can also guarantee you will be a "lifetime" customer, because (like most other successful vendors we know) we intend to go "private" at some point, 'if and when' the business we get from SR becomes too much for us to handle. Especially with the level of customer service we insist on providing our customers. :)

And again, we think you may have understood. You are free to provide us with ANY public key/email address you choose. It is us who provide YOU with a unique contact email/public key specifically assigned to your account to contact US. Not the other way around. Again, all for a variety of reasons that have been extensively discussed here on the forums.

Thank you for your concern.

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 16, 2012, 12:54 am
pipedreamz...

Until we can establish our "own" 100% secure 'Tor Hidden Mail-server', we agree Tormail.net is 'mozdev' the best bet at the moment.

If you would like 2B in GPG contact with us, please follow the instructions provided on out Profile page. :)

Thank you,

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: dudeguy551 on April 17, 2012, 04:44 am
pipedreamz...

Until we can establish our "own" 100% secure 'Tor Hidden Mail-server', we agree Tormail.net is 'mozdev' the best bet at the moment.

If you would like 2B in GPG contact with us, please follow the instructions provided on out Profile page. :)

Thank you,

The Flipside Crew

You should purge your database with an 10+ step algorithmic formatting utility at least once a month. Perhaps store your most valued clients in one journal and the legend to the code you use to write down their tormails on paper. Keep them separate. So now even if your server was breached or seized, their chances of using you as an undercover front in the future is minute.

The 10+ step algorithmic formatting utilities use seemingly random equations that generate random sequences of random length and size blocks on your HDDs. This will make it impossible for them to decypher your HDD now. As not only did that block once contain 010010 but it also contained 111010 and 100010 and 111111 all after eachother. Even the most sophisticated recovery platforms will not be able to recover this data, especially once overwritten. While loading the program, which should not be stored on the machine but executed either remotely or, even better, directly interfaced with a bootable thumb drive set to READ ONLY. This will leave no marks of ever being used, just that you possess the tool. Ah, forgot, and make sure you launch it with the random parameter and not to use some the default set order of algorithms. That way should your physical server be seized, they will only know what equations you used but not what order.

You can further protect your formatting tool by installing a self booting OS with user and password, root access disabled, turned off/completely removed. If you forget the password and username, make a new one.

If after one failed attempt, format itself, or, if you are really knowledgable with tech, find which of those equations, or any equations in general, run SUPER FAST for formatting discs. I'm talking .0001-.0000001s. This way after someone fails an attempt the software will engage itself to write millions of time to the thumb drive in the 1-5 seconds it takes them to pull the drive. If it's a cheap drive then replacing the firmware won't be too tough and the amount of read and write cycles will be insanely low (100,000 or less, maybe 1,000,000 or less). Hopefully this will destroy the memory chips, fry the drive itself or just make the data unobtainable.
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 21, 2012, 04:20 am
Sorry about the CAPS, but this 'is' crucial information, and therefore also how we posted it on our profile page.

Besides there, this is the only other outlet we have to get this message out to all those customers we are currently in GPG encrypted contact with.

So "Public Service Announcement":

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*** PLEASE NOTE: DUE TO RECENT EVENTS AT TORMAIL.NET, WE WILL (TEMPORARILY) BE UNABLE TO RESPOND TO "ANY" EMAIL CONTACT. WE HOPE TO BE MAKING THE NEEDED CHANGES TO CONTINUE GPG ENCRYPTED EMAIL CONTACT ASAP.

IT MAY HOWEVER TAKE A MOMENT AS OUR ENTIRE GPG-BASED EMAIL SYSTEM IS BASED AROUND TORMAIL. ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION, IT 'SHOULD' BE A RELATIVELY 'EASY' FIX, BUT IT MAY TAKE A MOMENT FOR US TO RESOLVE WITH THE AMOUNT OF ACCOUNTS ME MUST ADDRESS. WE WILL LET YOU KNOW ASAP. PLEASE BEAR WITH US.

IN THE MEAN TIME, WE ASK THAT EVERYONE CONTACT US VIA PM UNTIL THIS ISSUE CAN BE RESOLVED. IT WAS TRULY A VERY 'SUDDEN', UNEXPECTED EVENT FOR "EVERYONE".

FOR MORE INFORMATION (INCLUDING IF YOU ARE USING A TORMAIL ADDRESS YOURSELF) PLEASE VISIT THIS THREAD TO STAY UPDATED:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=19728.0

THANK YOU ****

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Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: risky2 on April 21, 2012, 04:45 am
so .org instead of .net for tormail should be fine right? Flipside, do we still keep our individual tormail customer email address setups from before?
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 21, 2012, 05:36 am
so .org instead of .net for tormail should be fine right? Flipside, do we still keep our individual tormail customer email address setups from before?

risky,

As far as we understand the situation so far, all Tormail addresses you may have, now have a ".org" extension instead of a ".net" extension. All other keys/passwords ect, 'should' work the same as they are completely unrelated to Tormail itself. It will just be a moment until we can update all of our customer accounts. So please PM us until we can announce otherwise.

We are doing our best. And honestly, until this information is "officially" released on the Tormail webite:

http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/

...we are not going to make ANY changes. There is still the 'very' remote (tin-foil hat) "possibility" (at this point) that the Tormail server may have been hacked. Though 'not' very likely considering the warnings that have been forthcoming within the last week or so.

We are personally choosing to wait until this information is verified by Tormail before proceeding. Although we have absolutely no reason to believe anything is amiss, we must consider customer safety, as well as our own, first. :)

This seems to be the thread to stay updated on: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=19728.0

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: technofarm on April 25, 2012, 07:09 pm
bought some bomb m1 from flipside and it came in 2 days.

5/5 as always and great packaging!  you guys do it right. 
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 25, 2012, 10:50 pm
Thank you for the feedback my friend! ;)

PSA:

Our product line will be expanding greatly over the next few weeks. "Hopefully" LSD, Ketamine, N,N DMT, mushrooms ..the list goes on... :)

Just keep an eye on our profile page for updates! :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: technofarm on April 26, 2012, 05:21 am
been looking to try a little K for a while.  I'll be looking for it!
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 26, 2012, 07:38 am
Ketamine is a LONG-TIME "personal" favorite of ours. Of ALL time!  :)

And our quality/purity (like ALL of our products) are 100% "quality assured" ahead of time. PERIOD!

Either an R or S isomer (or a mixture), but "always" 99.9% pure molecule. ALWAYS! Direct from the chemist! ;)

MXE (another NMDA-Antagonist/100% legal ketamine-analog) will also be in stock again soon.

We are doing our very best. Thank$ to the help of friends like you my  brother! :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Ondine on April 26, 2012, 07:52 am
Any ETA on the MXE and possible pricing per gram?

Very interested
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 26, 2012, 08:27 am
ondine,

Our MXE should be around $30-40/g.

ETA. Well. I "personally" recently "quality assured" our sample from our legit source. And it it 99.9%. Period.

Give it about a month or so. It must be imported, ect, (which takes "time" using our unique "fool-proof" methods. And takes ca$h to buy in the amounts needed for re-sale here, ya know?

We truly aim to provide the lowest prices on the Road. WHENEVER possible. It's a 'business' tactic...yes, of course...but also our TRUE underlying "philosophy" here at The Flipside. To get the power of these mind/culture-changing plants and chemicals into the hands as MANY as possible. For the good of mankind. The multiverse itself.

For the "Good of the Colony". (An "Ants" [the movie] reference). Great movie! Especially on acid, lol. :)

MJ, Bubble hash, THC Edibles, LSD-25 (liquid and paper), N,N DMT, Mushrooms ("perhaps" even Azy's and Cyans?..."maybe"?), MDMA, Fent, Oxys, various pharms/benzos/opiate's, ect are however all "domestically" available to us, and should be listed within the next 2-3 weeks.

We "truly" hope. We are $imply waiting for return$ on $ome investment$ to purcha$e these item$ for re-$ale, dig? :)

We are truly doing our best. We WANT to offer these items to the community. ASAP! Obviously. :)

Just keep an eye on our profile page, ok?

Thank you for your interest. :)

Peace

The Flipside Crew
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on April 30, 2012, 10:33 pm
***** SUPER-DUPER SPECIAL UPDATE! *****


1. We (finally) have our Tormail/GPG issues worked out! :)

* New customers: Please visit our profile page for our current email/key if you wish to be in GPG encrypted contact with us.

* Existing customers: You can continue to contact us using your assigned email/key from your new Tormail.org address.


2. We are now offering International shipping of powders and paper.

* Please read our "International Shipping" policy (posted on our profile page) before placing an international order.


Thank you all for your patience! ;)

Peace

The Flipside Crew

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: tabularotsauce on May 01, 2012, 01:58 am
Yo flipside crew,

Thanks for your speedy and stealthy order. I'm frankly surprised at the relative lack of good karma so far. I wish you the best of luck in your new endeavors here on SR. It's a shame you're trying to start on new business on the road in a time in which it is so fraught with frauders and freaks.

My order of 2c-b came very quickly, and I've just placed a follow-up order for 1G of their methylone powder. I'm really looking forward to testing both of these products since I've heard positive rumblings about them here on the forums. Can't wait to do more business with the flipside crew! Everything is very professional and legitimate as far as I can tell (and without yet tasting the 2c-b of course; I need to get some good glassware in first).

Sincerely,

tabularotsauce
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 01, 2012, 03:01 am
Thank you for your kind words tab. :)

We "highly" recommend anyone ordering any powders or RC's potent enough to require a milligram scale to accurately weigh a dose...

...2 do so! Let it B!

Buy one!

We recommend Tanita brand, but there are much cheaper models available these days (as low as $35), yet of much lesser quality of course.

But there are indeed other ways to accurately measure dosages using liquid and a "hundereth's" scale (accurate to 0.01) that we believe you are referring to correct? DO NOT rely on the "weight" you are expecting us to send you. We often weigh 'over', ok? :)

Just buy a nice scale is all. :)

This is why we offer many pre-pressed items. For customer safety.

It doesn't take much for an "Emergency Scheduling" by the DEA, as we have seen as recently as late last year with M1, ect.

Good luck brother! ;)

Peace

TFC

[EDIT] In fact, I believe we will update our profile page and listings with this information. Truly quite essential, no?] ;)

Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: tabularotsauce on May 01, 2012, 04:59 pm
Yeah if you can suggest a good mg scale capable of measuring 2C doses (10-30mg) that would be fantastic. I've got a hundredths scale like you mentioned, but I don't want to trust +/- 10 mg when I'm weighing out 20mg of powder :p

That's what I haven't even made up my master solution of 2c-b yet. In the past I've done this all volumetrically to avoid problems. I'd much rather just weigh out my doses though. Is there an economical option for weighing out 15 mg quantities? As in less than $100? I'd love more information!!


tab
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 01, 2012, 05:32 pm
tab,

Just woke up. Give us a moment. <insert "sleepy" smiley>

We will post a list of affordable scales as well as a small tutorial on liquid measurement.

"Sometime" today. OK? ;)

As a PSA.

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: tabularotsauce on May 01, 2012, 10:36 pm
Oh, take your time. Send the shipments instead :D

(Just kidding of course, your processing time is super fast. Keep up the good work. Just excited about my M1 shipment!)


tab
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 01, 2012, 11:03 pm
Is there an economical option for weighing out 15 mg quantities?

Come on? 15 mg's?

18-25 mg. MINIMUM!...with "multiple" re-doses...lol... ;)

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 02, 2012, 05:35 am
We WILL be posting the list of ("affordable" and "quality") milligram scales, as well as the "liquid measurement" tutorial. As promised.

It may just however be a few days. We are TRULY "really" busy at the moment...

With 'this'...Tormail issues...pm's...emails...shipping...the Flipside..."life"...in general....we have to shower....and eat...so do our pets...and (if lucky) ...'fuck'...lol. ;)

Just....EVERYTHING!!!

...ya know? ;)

If you ONLY knew a "day in the life of...". I'm sure other vendors might chime in on this one?

But we are doing our very best...for the community...we got ya'll. ;)

In time....

Much love! ;)

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: tabularotsauce on May 02, 2012, 05:38 am
Yeah, certainly  ;D

I always start really low. Enjoyed 10 mg of your 2c-b tonight.

Cheers,

tab
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 02, 2012, 06:09 am
Really? 10 mg.'s?

That would NOT even effect us.

But then again. We have have been (ab)using various alkaloids for nearly 20 years, lol... ;)

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: tabularotsauce on May 02, 2012, 05:52 pm
I suspect I'm more sensitive than some people. I've never needed more than 15mg 2c-i for a nice 8-hour experience.

tab
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 02, 2012, 07:23 pm
16 mg. of 2C-I for us. So not 'too' far off....hmmm.......

Everyone's neuropharmalogical make-up is different. So REALLY smart thinking my friend! Start small. HIGHLY recommended.

A vendor might (accidentally) make a simple mistake and send you (f.x.) 1 gram of 2C-B instead of M1....have fun with 200 mg's of 2C-B, lol. :)

We "triple-check" personally. Customer safety is #1 in our book.

Glad you had a good time though, regardless. :)

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 14, 2012, 12:11 am
Greetings friends!

Just a heads up. We have (for reasons unknown) been locked out of our account and SR "in general" for about 24 hours now. We are unable to log-in under any other currently registered usernames, or even register a new account to get in 'at all'. So "something" is amiss.

We are in touch with SR staff regarding this issue and hope to get it resolved and back in ASAP. In the mean time, we are "stuck" on the Flipside. :(

We apologize for any pm's that are currrently going unanswered or orders not being addressed. We will do so as soon as we possibly can.

And at that time, a little birdie told me we should be listing some every nice LSD as well! :)

So believe me when I say we are doing our best. We apologize for any delays this may be causing any of our customers.

In the mean time you can still reach us via the email posted on our profile page if need be, or via PM here on the forums.

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 15, 2012, 01:04 pm
After 48 hours of (doing everything explained on our profile page), as well as completely re-designing our GPG contact system to address the undesired number of unencrypted emails we have been receiving, we are (finally) "back-in"! :)

And (as promised) we now have a limited amount of LSD blotter now listed at 'half' the cost of ALL other currently listed domestic offers. With more (and cheaper) blotter and liquid soon to come. ;)

Enjoy! :)

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: huxleysdoor on May 16, 2012, 06:52 am
Me and my significant other tried 25mgs each of the 2c-b.  It was INTENSE and loved it very much.  Sex is other wordly and we bonded on such a deeper level.
A lot more psychedelic than lower doses.  I've only had 2C-B twice before but in low doses of 15mg and found it to be more stimulating and more about senses.
 That was a 2 weeks ago.  I remember the packaging to be very well and received it promptly.  Communication with flipside is great, clear and professional.

I came to try and look around for it today,  but discovered I have misplaced it somewhere during my 2c-b trip and can't seem to find it. 
So fucking disappointed in myself as I was saving the rest for me and my girl for a romantic getaway (our last drug crazed one) for after finals....now its after finals and its nowhere to be found :/
Hoping for the Gods make it appear to me somehow.
Such a waste....been banging my head on brick walls for this.
Hopefully will buy more soon when money is no longer scarce  :'(
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: flipside on May 16, 2012, 09:16 am
Huxley,

Thank you for your kind words, and simply Fl@b3rgL@e$TeD you had a blast!

Rest assured you are not alone. We have "misplaced" nearly 4K in the last few weeks ourselves, lol. :)

PM us. Perhaps we can magically make your wishes come true. ;)

Peace

TFC
Title: Re: New vendor: The Flipside
Post by: Acd on May 25, 2012, 05:26 am
I received my 10 strip from flipside internationally and yes I FE'd.

thanks buds.