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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: 34tuforlunch on April 11, 2012, 11:44 am
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I got 6 plants in my basement and am not much of a smoker myself but I usually sell ounces of high quality gold kush for 200 an ounce or 10/gram for smaller amounts. I see ounces on here sell for over $300 any one else feel that its a little overpriced?
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You're paying for convenience, concealing services, and professional production methods. I would say in my very limited knowledge of these things it's still maybe a little bit overpriced even considering that. But, what can you do?
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You're paying for convenience, concealing services, and professional production methods. I would say in my very limited knowledge of these things it's still maybe a little bit overpriced even considering that. But, what can you do?
Pretty much this right here. I give people from all over the world access to strains they never even heard of at a reasonable price. All they have to do is order and it'll arrive at their doorstep in a couple of days, if that's not convenience then I don't know what is ;)
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I got 6 plants in my basement and am not much of a smoker myself but I usually sell ounces of high quality gold kush for 200 an ounce or 10/gram for smaller amounts. I see ounces on here sell for over $300 any one else feel that its a little overpriced?
That sounds nice and all, but not all of us live in a weed friendly state.
I don't live near California or Oregon. 200 an oz is unheard of unless you're buying Mexican dirt weed in bricks. For me to smoke anything quality, it's 20/g, 60 an 8th, etc etc. An oz is 400 bucks!
However, if I order from SR, I get MUCH better quality at about the same price or often a little cheaper.
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I'm not surprised that its so expensive, but I was surprised that in spite of the vast diversity of weed vendors it seems to all be consistently way too expensive for me to even consider ordering rather than buying local. I'm not aware of a single weed vendor here who can compete with the most expensive pot dealer I've encountered in my life. Most people seem to be selling a gram for 20 to 50 dollars. I'm Canadian so shit might be different here than in other places, but as I see it I'm in one of the worse provinces for weed and still it doesn't make sense to order. Another thing that bothers me is that none of the canadian weed vendors seem to sell pressed hash in small quantities, as it is something which I cant get locally right now and I'd rather not order weed products internationally. I think for canadians budmail is a much better bet than silk road in terms of weed, and its really annoying to use budmail.
But then again I hardly ever smoke weed anymore. I did every day for years but now I don't really care.
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Depending your area and contact, everything here is overpriced or inexpensive.
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I look around so it's as close to what I can get locally price wise. A majority of the time, I get it even cheaper. I can get high quality organics locally and on SR, but getting it on SR circumvents the drive and the hassles of unreliability and inconsistencies with dealers. I'd rather have a bit of patience and get my package delivered to my door than drive and not really knowing what I'm going to get.
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I got 6 plants in my basement and am not much of a smoker myself but I usually sell ounces of high quality gold kush for 200 an ounce or 10/gram for smaller amounts. I see ounces on here sell for over $300 any one else feel that its a little overpriced?
That sounds nice and all, but not all of us live in a weed friendly state.
I don't live near California or Oregon. 200 an oz is unheard of unless you're buying Mexican dirt weed in bricks. For me to smoke anything quality, it's 20/g, 60 an 8th, etc etc. An oz is 400 bucks!
However, if I order from SR, I get MUCH better quality at about the same price or often a little cheaper.
Couldn't have said it any better. This is exactly why.
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Depending your area and contact, everything here is overpriced or inexpensive.
Well said, it blows my mind that people can't grasp the basic concepts of an open market.
You want to know how I know that weed on SR isn't overpriced? Because people are paying the prices asked, hell vendors can't keep anything in stock for more than a couple of days.
Anybody who thinks the market is overpriced should be seeing dollar signs. Any time you have access to a commodity in one market for less than the going rate in another, you have an arbitrage opportunity.
Where I live, I have the opposite arbitrage opportunity. I can buy weed on SR for so much cheaper than I can locally that if I needed the money, I could make thousands of dollars a month just flipping weed, even if I had to pay the ounce price being asked (around $300 per is pretty standard on the site, would sell for $400 an ounce or even $480 an ounce if sold in quarters).
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Depending your area and contact, everything here is overpriced or inexpensive.
Well said, it blows my mind that people can't grasp the basic concepts of an open market.
You want to know how I know that weed on SR isn't overpriced? Because people are paying the prices asked, hell vendors can't keep anything in stock for more than a couple of days.
Anybody who thinks the market is overpriced should be seeing dollar signs. Any time you have access to a commodity in one market for less than the going rate in another, you have an arbitrage opportunity.
That is a good point, its why I'm not surprised about the prices. What did surprise me I guess is the discrepancy in my experience with weed in the world and the indication silk road prices give me about other parts of the world. Relative to myself and to the OP the weed seems "overpriced" but you're right that objectively there is no reason to judge the prices against some standard other than those determined naturally through supply and demand.
To me ten dollars a gram is like buying candy at the gas station. You know you can get more way cheaper at the grocery store but you don't care because its convenient.
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I dont know if it helps any at all but i have listings for Medical Grade Bubba Kush (sourced from local CO-Ops)@ $10 a gram before SR adds their Cut.
Only Grams for Now. OZ listings may come soon. check it out when the site is back up
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The other day, I paid $50 for an eighth of weed from my local dealer. I mean it was decent weed, but definitely not good enough for that price. The point is that weed is very expensive in a lot of areas. After that purchase, I decided it was the last straw. From now on, I will be buying medicinal marijuana from someone on the SR. It's better quality and cheaper. I've been a fool to wait this long.
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Everybody thinks Brazil is the land of weed, but like I explained in another thread, just brick weed. True weed here is more than 20 dollars a gram for sure, and sometimes people ask a lot more.
A japonese guy told me in Japan weed is more than 100 dollars a gram. I don't know if it's true.
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Everybody thinks Brazil is the land of weed, but like I explained in another thread, just brick weed. True weed here is more than 20 dollars a gram for sure, and sometimes people ask a lot more.
A japonese guy told me in Japan weed is more than 100 dollars a gram. I don't know if it's true.
VERY true. Police in Asian countries, especially Japan, treat weed/hash like opium. Since it is so illegal, most dealers who sell it also sell meth, speed and other harder drugs. Since less people are willing to take the risk and sell it, the price skyrockets.
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And what about the customs? Since it's a small island probably it is very controlled.
I never saw someone here saying he order something to Japan. They would find these prices amazing...
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I lived in Singapore for a year for about $50 usd I could get 2 grams. Thats a bit more than a lot of sellers on SR and the people I got it from if caught could face the death penalty.
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And what about the customs? Since it's a small island probably it is very controlled.
I never saw someone here saying he order something to Japan. They would find these prices amazing...
Theirs a good chance they would go after people who order small amounts also as they rarely see drugs their and have nothing better to do.
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I lived in Singapore for a year for about $50 usd I could get 2 grams. Thats a bit more than a lot of sellers on SR and the people I got it from if caught could face the death penalty.
Death Penalty? Fuck!
And what about you as a user? What you can get?
Maybe that's why we don't see a lot of asian customers.
The only reason high thc level weed is fucking expensive in Brazil is the drug dealers here, like 99% of population, are illiterate. So, it's a very closed market, that does not have anything to do with the regular weed market. You will never find a super lemon haze at favela. You will find with a good lookin white guy wearing Gucci. Drug dealers don't know there is weed much more stronger and much more tasty than the one they sell. They do not believe when I tell them they can grow weed indoor using HPS lights and they thinking I'm kidding when I say they can get much more money, moving much less weed volume, taking much less risk, without buying anything. If I say some people pay easily 20dolars a gram for this kind of weed, they laugh at my face.
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If the gov their makes you take a piss test and you fail you get this hard core rehab for like 6 months. If your not from the country they will kick you out and fine you for failing a piss test. If you get caught with a small amount for locals its usually less than a year and rehab for a first offense and for people that are not from Singapore you get kicked out + a large fine.
I think the death penalty if for like 500+ grams of weed or 30+ grams of hash. They never execute people unless they are from outside of the country though usually. Starts to much conflict with other places.
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And what about the customs? Since it's a small island probably it is very controlled.
I never saw someone here saying he order something to Japan. They would find these prices amazing...
Theirs a good chance they would go after people who order small amounts also as they rarely see drugs their and have nothing better to do.
But as they rarely see drugs, maybe they don't have tight custom for it (just speculating)
In Brazil, I'm sure if someone open my order, it would be the Lion (brazilian IRS) looking for contraband. Federal Police and military forces are trying to control the drug traffic on the border from our neighbors. It's better than expend resources expecting stuffs from Europe. Usually, we send stuffs to there. I could be terrible wrong anyway...
But the Lion is the only public service that works in Brazil, and unfortunately, works a lot. Every medium size package they will open looking for contraband. With legal items, they tax you so high that sometimes it's not a good business pay it, and then, they auction the stuffs. Bad experience with games...
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If the gov their makes you take a piss test and you fail you get this hard core rehab for like 6 months. If your not from the country they will kick you out and fine you for failing a piss test. If you get caught with a small amount for locals its usually less than a year and rehab for a first offense and for people that are not from Singapore you get kicked out + a large fine.
Uau.
I know killers in Brazil who stay in the jail for less than 6 months. If you have a good lawyer, it is almost impossible get more than this, even if they caught you with 1kg of weed and with proves of your scheme (phone calls, buyers, etc)
I think the death penalty if for like 500+ grams of weed or 30+ grams of hash. They never execute people unless they are from outside of the country though usually. Starts to much conflict with other places.
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=622725
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If the gov their makes you take a piss test and you fail you get this hard core rehab for like 6 months. If your not from the country they will kick you out and fine you for failing a piss test. If you get caught with a small amount for locals its usually less than a year and rehab for a first offense and for people that are not from Singapore you get kicked out + a large fine.
Uau.
I always get really sad when reading those death pen stories. BS that people die over stuff like that.
I know killers in Brazil who stay in the jail for less than 6 months. If you have a good lawyer, it is almost impossible get more than this, even if they caught you with 1kg of weed and with proves of your scheme (phone calls, buyers, etc)
I think the death penalty if for like 500+ grams of weed or 30+ grams of hash. They never execute people unless they are from outside of the country though usually. Starts to much conflict with other places.
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=622725
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I love buying weed on SR for the variety of different strains, I'm not in a 'weed friendly state', so I don't mind paying a little more for quality.
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If you don't understand why prices are high on here, you haven't been reading and understanding my posts as to how this site is operating right now.
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fuck no, you're not the only one that finds weed here is way overpriced. however, I can't grow pot, I don't live in california, and I'm an adult...so would I rather go visit the socially dysfunctional scrubby kid I know who lives 3 towns over and buy whatever he has, or do I want to rent a po box and buy expensive but amazing weed on the internet while I should be working? clearly, i've chosen the latter.
plus, if you're a tightwad light me, you'll spend a week or so sizing up all the vendors and finding the most amount of weed for the least amount of money, which usually is equivalent to a straight deal in the real world.
200 for a Z is pretty good though. 120 for a half of good indoor is also a pretty good price around here. you should expand your grow-op a little and deal on SR.
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Nearly all drugs are expensive here if you consider that most sellers are buying wholesale and selling at a consumer level, cutting out a lot of middlemen. Well they aren't necessarily expensive, but vendors profit margins are definitely very high and I'm sure most can still make a healthy profit at much lower prices, it's just a case of waiting for more and more wholesale vendors to enter the market. Once vendors can only profit off the inherent profitability of this business model, and not both that and surplus demand, Silk Road will really start to flourish.
The costs of refunds/resends, reverse scammers, laundering costs etc etc pale in significance to the great profits offered by, for example, selling a kilo of Cocaine in 1-5g increments and therefore fail to justify high prices (not that they need to be justified, they simply are what they are).
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i think it is a little expensive which is prolly why i havent bought it yet. i can get eigths for 50 of pretty good weed, id rather spend my bitcoins on other things but not to say i wont try it one day maybe. but ounces i refuse to pay more than 275 for dank weed. 300+ just too much for me these days. i used to pick up at 175 at the store so i got spoiled.
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When I first encountered this site, I did think the weed was pretty expensive. However, since considering becoming a vendor on here myself, and running through the figures, I realize that there is a big difference in the prices you see as a buyer, and the amount of cash that ends up in the vendor's pocket.
First, there are the site fees. For small orders, you are looking at around 14% loss before your bitcoins can even leave the site. At this point, you could theoretically just dump them onto an exchange and cash out straight to your bank account, but most prefer to cover their tracks by laundering their coins, then cashing out via more anonymous methods, which can be expensive, and somewhat unreliable.
Then you have all the expenses associated with packaging and shipping, and the other expenses associated with this method (occasional fraud, funds tied up in escrow etc).
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And what about the customs? Since it's a small island probably it is very controlled.
I never saw someone here saying he order something to Japan. They would find these prices amazing...
People trying to bring hash into Japan is a fairly common occurrence. So is people getting caught trying to bring hash into Japan.
When I started seriously looking at this site, I wished I was living in China still. I could get 10-20 grams of hash and sell it there on the street for 2-3 times its value here. But like Singapore, China has the death penalty by decapitation if you're caught dealing.
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Great answers and perspectives.
Depending on geographical location and who you know, it is either overpriced or a value.
Now the difference is the customer. I have never even really thought about smoking weed on the SR level. However, the fact that weed is offered here while I am looking for other things piques my interest. All these strains, unless you live on the West Coast can't be found locally and/or it is not worth the risk to look for it locally.
Now, I was in one game IRL and many of my customers were in the weed game, so I got extremely lucky in that I have 3 maybe 4 premium quality weed guys that pick up on first ring if I ever need any. Just depends on your situation.
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I was selling quarters on here for under $100, but troll buyers have wrecked my feedback. Meanwhile, those same trolls seem to leave other vendors (the ones that charge a lot) alone - go figure.
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But folks who stumbled across this thread who are on a budget like me should check out fabled.
Buy a half or a quarter of his cheapy cheapness and it stretches a few grams of the high quality stuff REALLY good.
I'm new to weed and everything around it, so thanks very much for the tip!
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An 1/8 around here is 50-60 bucks for good chronic and its still not the quality that SR provides. I buy in bulk and that drops the price. I'm also not dealing with the people selling at 300oz. I can turn a nice profit selling at below market value here and still smoke for free.
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Sorry, wrong thread again.
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the only people that should be bitching about pricing are the ones who dont live in a medical state and cant get dank as easy i can get medical grade just as good 10min away for a little more money but the variety and simplicity on s.r is the best thing and to be honest a qp of medical grade weed for close to 1000 aint bad at all just buy in bulk. and if u dont like pricing then y dont u find a weed dealer and beat everyone out on there pricing.
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I dont live in a MJ friendly state, so there isnt driving anywhere legally to get it for me, hence my interest in SR. Prices in my area are comparable to SR, however if I drive an hour away, my prices are cut in half, although its usually just brick quality. I find that most vendors on SR sell in quality not so much quantity, but if you're like me and some an ounce a week, quantity matters sometimes.
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Look, honestly it all depends on what area you are in. Certain drugs show trends in different areas.
I could walk outside right now and go up to a random person, ask if they have weed/can get some: I assure you they could.
It may be quality or not, but it is accessible in my area. Being that availability is high here, the price therefore is low. It's supply and demand, basic drug-enomics.
Now, if I did the same thing and asked for LSD or MDMA, they would look at me like I was spitting random letters at them and have no idea what I'm talking about.
Weed is the only thing highly available around my area/state. Therefore it's low, much lower than the prices on SR. Yet, if I wanted to find other things, it just isn't here. If I were to talk to dealers that can actually import MDMA from another city (which honestly would probably be cut), I've been told prices as high as $100-120 a gram. Marginally, that's much higher than what you talk about what weed. The same applies for LSD and many other drugs.
I think most vendors pick somewhat of a higher premium for themselves and sell at that price. With products such as LSD that they can monopolize, they do.
:)
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the SR market speaks for itself. I imagine if this site keeps growing undisturbed the price of everything will go down. But as others have said, price evaluation depends on your geographic location. In the U.S., in a weed friendly state, everyone and their mother has herb to smoke.