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Title: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: flashlight5 on September 10, 2013, 10:01 pm
Talking .6 mg upwards.

Would like to provoke some deep psychological change... kinda stuck in some areas of my life, want to move to the next level.

Did something in the area of 200 mcg last weekend, was some okay tripping, but didn't change my outlook a bit.

Haven't taken many drugs over the course of my life, so im not jumping from drug to drug looking for salvation.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: cricketplank on September 10, 2013, 11:40 pm
"give your life to the one who already owns your breath and your moments"
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: B1-66ER on September 11, 2013, 12:47 am
I don't know man, I've always said screw the heroic dose shit.

I respect my psychedelics and do safe/low doses. Always a good time for me.

The only reason Mckenna used to take such high doses is because his tolerence was sky high.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: busta999 on September 11, 2013, 08:26 am
Acid is a tool not a miracle cure. It won't do all the work for you of changing your outlook or ways. It works way better when you are already putting serious effort into unsticking yourself.
Set and setting has long been known plays a huge part in the experience - set being the mindset with which you approach the trip.

Additionally there is no guarantee that such an experience will be at all pleasurable. You never know what comes up and if the life situation you are trying to unstick is a severe situation or condtion chances are that much higher to run into seriously disturbing stuff or triggering an even more severe condition.

That said the really transformative experiences do usually occur on stronger dosages of 300ug - 500ug and frequently not until one has several trips under the belt. It is not uncommon that it takes some trips before one is able to allow oneself to surrender to the experience.

Only few users have the gods talking to them, dissolve their personality or merge with the universe until after 5 - 10 trips. Patience, determination and large doses will get most there.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: suffix on September 11, 2013, 05:03 pm
Ayahuasca has a good reputation as a theraputic re set drug. check out the testamonies on youtube and see if thats what you are looking for.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: cricketplank on September 11, 2013, 07:31 pm

Additionally there is no guarantee that such an experience will be at all pleasurable. You never know what comes up and if the life situation you are trying to unstick is a severe situation or condtion chances are that much higher to run into seriously disturbing stuff or triggering an even more severe condition.


Completely agree. I would bet some serious cash on the point that if you're really hoping to make some serious changes in your life, it's not going to be all nice and fluffy. change comes from little steps, and from facing your resistance, usually attachment i.e. pain!
all peace and love and all that, but trips don't change you unless you implement the changes yourself, in your daily life
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: seuss on September 11, 2013, 09:19 pm
The most LSD I've ingested was 1.5 milligrams, and it didn't induce a life-changing experience.  Don't buy the hype that you need insane amounts of LSD to experience something extraordinary.  I may sound trite, but it's all about set and setting.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: kissthemoon on September 14, 2013, 09:04 pm
The life changing experiences i had on lsd all were on doses around 200-400 ug. I've tried doses up to 700-800 ug, but i find that what is experienced on those higher doses is sooo far out, it can't be translated to anything useful in daily life. Of course the very weird things one can experience on high doses have their own value, but I get more confused and easier to freak out on high doses, so I don't do it too often.

And as already mentioned, as I find also, when one has more trip experiences, it becomes easier to have 'mystical' experiences.

If you do want to take a high dose, I would recommend to have a trip sitter and some benzo's at hand!
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: lokiju on September 14, 2013, 09:52 pm
YES, set and setting.
Sounds like a project for MDMA (and maybe another person or two). Timothy Leary and many others sure believed in LSD (you want a GREAT read on LSD read 'Storming Heaven'-LSD and the American Dream'. It's got 39 reviews on Amazon and a perfect 5)
I'd suggest reading. When I was in my 20's I had a long bout of depression. I came across this book 'The Denial of Death' by Ernest Becker and I read it at the right time for me. Probably get it really cheap used on Amazon too.

Shulgin even talks a lot about set and setting in PIKAL and that guy was an objective observer as anybody around.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: flashlight5 on September 15, 2013, 05:49 pm
thanks to all of you.

http://www.ebook3000.com/Storming-Heaven--LSD-and-the-American-Dream_115883.html

i think books like this should be bought to support the author. but if you want to take a quick look or cant get it offline try the link. you can of course get it online. but i advice against that.

stay safe all of you!
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: Sir William Wonka on September 15, 2013, 05:59 pm
I just now ordered denial of death.  thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: Tessellated on September 15, 2013, 08:42 pm
LSD does not change your life, it just allows you to do so yourself.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: flyinghigh1660 on September 16, 2013, 10:19 am
It isn't the dose, it is the set and setting. Also think about having a guide there to help you through the process to tackle what you want to change.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Psychedelic-Explorers-Guide-Therapeutic/dp/1594774021

Talks about the best way to use LSD as a tool.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: kukpikk on September 18, 2013, 04:04 pm
200ug seems to do the trick for me.
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: TSX on September 19, 2013, 04:38 am
LSD does not change your life, it just allows you to do so yourself.

So true.

Someone here on the forums mentioned taking 3000µg and 1200µg on another occasion, super crazy. For me 200-300µ should be very strong, I don't know exactly because I only had 2 LSD experiences (not long ago) and both were with heavy mixing of drugs that I think worked against the LSD very much. I ate 4 that night (460µg but over a long time in small doses) the effect was strong but not what I would expect from 4 blotters. That's of course a little weird to say because I don't know the strength of 4 blotters with mono consumption so I have no reference really.)
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: Bluto on September 20, 2013, 12:48 am
Talking .6 mg upwards.

Would like to provoke some deep psychological change... kinda stuck in some areas of my life, want to move to the next level.

Did something in the area of 200 mcg last weekend, was some okay tripping, but didn't change my outlook a bit.

Haven't taken many drugs over the course of my life, so im not jumping from drug to drug looking for salvation.

I've done a very large dose of LSD. I don't think I would recommend it without three really good friends trained in psychology and perhaps even a padded room. Ideally the padded room will have a cool movie playing in it where I can't reach it.

Seriously, I took twenty hits once and obliterated an entire apartment full of expensive stuff: Furniture, TV, Stereo, Clothing -all gone.  I remember breaking my coffee table for instance... I was climbing through a spherical maze of wooden beams. The beams were my coffee table legs. I guess I was climbing on them and they broke. I remember seeing something on the TV only to realize that it was off. I tried to turn it on and it ended up on the floor.

I wrote stuff about this here before. One aspect that I definitely remember was the synesthesia. I couldn't focus on anything or even think straight because everything was getting jumbled together. That was before I blacked out.

Here it is:


All I can say is that I've experienced a complete abandonment of Ego when I had too much (20 hits)  of Acid. I was gone, there was nothing in control anymore. When I lost my ego, I couldn't see; I thought I was blind. At once I was experiencing another reality, one without decisions just reactions (which I wasn't completely aware of). The blindness turned into constantly shifting synesthesia.  I was aware of my surrounding but seeing through sound, hearing through smell and then that would change -I'd see through touch, or my thoughts were strong smells. It's very hard to describe and there was a period where I blacked out and I have no memory. When I started coming back to reality I found that I destroyed my apartment, and I thought that God was punishing me and I was in hell.

It's not completely without benefit.  View "Journey of the Wounded Healer" by Alex Grey. I died and was reborn.  I didn't do acid for a long time after that, but when I did -I had a respect for the drug. I have no desire to do that much ever again.

Maybe you can handle it. Just be careful.

Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: TSX on September 20, 2013, 01:44 am
Where would you think LSD starts to get a drug that really needs a sitter? 360µg still safe for coordination and walking path's that you walked thousands of times and can walk them with eyes closed and even fast without hitting anything?
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: cricketplank on September 20, 2013, 07:20 pm


Seriously, I took twenty hits once and obliterated an entire apartment full of expensive stuff: Furniture, TV, Stereo, Clothing -all gone. 
All I can say is that I've experienced a complete abandonment of Ego when I had too much (20 hits)  of Acid. I was gone, there was nothing in control anymore. When I lost my ego, I couldn't see; I thought I was blind. At once I was experiencing another reality, one without decisions just reactions (which I wasn't completely aware of). The blindness turned into constantly shifting synesthesia.  I was aware of my surrounding but seeing through sound, hearing through smell and then that would change -I'd see through touch, or my thoughts were strong smells. It's very hard to describe and there was a period where I blacked out and I have no memory. When I started coming back to reality I found that I destroyed my apartment, and I thought that God was punishing me and I was in hell.


Maybe you can handle it. Just be careful.


@Bluto, any idea what number ug/mg these 20 hits would have amounted to?
Title: Re: Life Changing Large Doses Of LSD
Post by: Bluto on September 21, 2013, 12:07 am
@Bluto, any idea what number ug/mg these 20 hits would have amounted to?

Well as my Psychiatrist told me -there is a saturation point with LSD where you can literally take no more -because 'more' would not have any additional effect. So if I took 20 or if I took 100 -it would have the same effect. I sold some to other people and this stuff was potent enough that one dose would be a good time -if you were at a concert or something.