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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: psychedelia on December 11, 2012, 10:07 am
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probably not real LSD
Warning to students of pill danger after the LSD death of teenager Nick Mitchell
TRAGIC drug victim Nick Mitchell and his classmates had only a week earlier been warned about the perils of popping illegal pills.
His Year 9 adviser at Gosford High School had spoken to a group of students about the dangers of taking drugs, but sadly for Nick and his friend it wasn't enough to stop them on Saturday from experimenting with a substance police believe to be the illegal and hallucinogenic drug LSD.
As family and friends come to terms with his death, police are closing on the source of a lethal batch of LSD, saying it is their main priority.
Nick's 11-year-old brother found him unconscious in his granny flat bedroom at the rear of the family's waterfront property at Tascott shortly before 9.30pm and called their mother at work.
About the same time as Nick's brother discovered his motionless body his friend, in a psychotic state, was struck by a car as he ran naked through traffic on nearby Brisbane Water Drive.
He was taken to hospital but has since been discharged.
Inspector Glenn Trayhurn said detectives had spoken to the teenager - who cannot be named for legal reasons - and he had provided some details of how they obtained the drug.
"We have spoken to him," he said.
"Not a lot of information (but) he's told us some things. Our information is they knew what they were buying."
Tracking down the dealer and source of the deadly batch of the drug commonly called acid will be a key focus of the police investigation.
It follows a number of recent incidents on the coast and Sydney in which people have been hospitalised after taking so-called "bad" drugs.
Insp Trayhurn said detectives would rely on intelligence of the local drug supply networks, the other boy's statements and "some members of the public that have provided information" to apprehend the dealer.
Nick had breathing problems and heart complications as a result of the drug but it will be another five weeks before toxicology results are known.
Gosford High students were shocked by Nick's death with many of them learning about it during assembly.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/warning-to-students-of-pill-danger-after-the-lsd-death-of-teenager-nick-mitchell/story-e6frg6n6-1226531614617
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A drug and alcohol expert has said it is unlikely that the death of a Central Coast teenager was caused by an LSD overdose.
Nick Mitchell, 15 suffered heart and respiratory problems after taking the drug with a friend, also 15, on Saturday.
But Drug and Alcohol Research and Training Australia director Paul Dillon said it is more likely that the teen died from an incident relating to taking the hallucinogen.
Mr Dillon said there has been no documentation of a human death from an LSD overdose.
"It is unlikely that the teen died from an LSD overdose as the drug does not cause respiratory failure but it does alter the perception of the user," he said.
"The symptoms of taking the drug cause the person to go into a psychosis and hallucinate which may result in them walking in front of a car or getting into some type of an accident."
Mr Dillon said until the results of the toxicology are released, he will not speculate the cause of the teenager's death.
"Until we receive all the information, the best possible message we can get across is to provide the right information to the public," he said.
"There is an increase in usage of the drug especially among young people and the message is to warn them about the effects."
According to the police, Nick was found unconscious on his bedroom floor by his 11-year-old brother at their home in Tascott on Saturday.
The drug caused his friend to become psychotic and run naked into traffic.
"There is an increase in usage of the drug especially among young people and the message is to warn them about the effects."
The two teenagers had been spending the day hanging out in Nick's granny flat-style bedroom and neighbours reported seeing them playing in the backyard pool showing no signs of anything abnormal.
Around 8.30pm AEDT Nick's younger brother made a frantic call to his mother saying he had found the teen slumped on the floor not breathing.
Police said officers later found the bedroom had been "smashed up".
A neighbour performed CPR on Nick as paramedics rushed over.
But the ambulance was stopped just around the corner from the Mitchell's house when it came across Nick's friend who had been struck by a car.
Another ambulance was sent out for Nick but he was pronounced dead on arrival at Gosford Hospital.
Detectives said the incident came after numerous other reports of people suffering serious side effects from LSD and there were fears a toxic batch of the drug could be circulating.
"LSD, if that's what it was, is an insidious drug. It's got a smiley face on it and looks harmless, but it kills," Detective Superintendent Nick Bingham told The Daily Telegraph.
Brazilian student Roberto Laudisio Curti died in Sydney's CBD in March after he took LSD, fell into a psychotic state and was tasered by police after a struggle.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/12/06/15/08/expert-says-teen-death-not-from-lsd-overdose
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I hate when information like this is spread as truth.
This reminds me of Sasha's death at EDC a couple years ago on her "ecstasy overdose."
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Yes, this is absolute fucking rubbish, while my condolences go outt to this poor kids family, LSD certainly was not the cause ofdeath
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Yes, this is absolute fucking rubbish, while my condolences go outt to this poor kids family, LSD certainly was not the cause ofdeath
Agreed we need a news outlet that unskews the lies and puts them back into truth. I already have our segments title "The war on propaganda". 8)
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"LSD, if that's what it was, is an insidious drug. It's got a smiley face on it and looks harmless, but it kills,"
wat o_o
This kind of blind and terrified ignorance of "dem illegal drugs" pisses me off like nothing else can. For the majority of civvies, LSD and the likes are some evil entity demon death drugs, that creep up on unsuspecting users, slaughtering the addicts by the thousands.
Also, what the fuck were 15 year olds doing with stupidly potent hallucinogens? First time I tripped, I spent DAYS reading up on my chosen compound beforehand.
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gotta love aussie 'journos'
am i reading right, where one kid is so off nuts they call the ambos for him, then that one does not reach him, because they found his mate down the road, who had been hit by a car?.. so had to call out another ambo...
thats one hell of a trip eh!
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I remember in the same way they blocked GBL in the UK. Some girl, a medical student (common FFS!...) died by mixing GBL with alcohol, and they said that it was GBL only...
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Smells like bullshit to me, my friends, no just thing as an "LSD overdose" so fucking stupid....
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Lame, ignorant crap.
Reminds of a so called "expert" I saw on CNN who said "bath salts are like methamphetamine on crack." Lame, ignorant, useless rubbish.
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Well, it is the was LSD can kill you.
Taking the drug will not result directly in death at all, but if you get a physchotic episode that involves wanting to hug a train, you'll be just as dead.
These things do happen though, and also with legal drugs. I remember a case where a tourist thought he had contracted malaria on holiday in africa, and decided the best course of action would be to take a rather large dose of anti-malarial drugs (lariam). This in turn caused a psychotic episode ending up with the poor fellow running around and eventually onto an intersection where he was ran over by a bus.
It happens with legal substances too though: people drink too much, stumble across a road and get hit by traffic, eventually resulting in death. If that happens, its mostly marked as an 'unfortunate accident', while the exact same scenario involving illicit drug use is usually explained as 'death due to narcotics abuse'. No matter how unfortunate these things are, i cannot see a proper reason to view them differently.
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This thread is quite poignant. I think that people do die all the time from drugs.
It is not the fault of the drug dealer or pusher.
It is the fault of the drug user for trying to get high and being a weak-o who wud probz die off ne think.
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This sort of thing really pisses me off. Some asshole takes some research chemical and puts it on blotter and calls it LSD with no regard to the results.
"Nick's 11-year-old brother found him unconscious in his granny flat bedroom", no way that was LSD. He would be wide awake on real acid not unconscious.
There is a special hell for people like that. A special hell.
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im just speculating but when i read the story i wondered if it was a reaction to 25i-NBOME and the police/family/friends thought it was lsd because they might have found/seen the familiar blotters which are commonly associated with lsd