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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Kurt Cobain on September 01, 2011, 08:03 pm

Title: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: Kurt Cobain on September 01, 2011, 08:03 pm
Hi,
i`ve got one question: imagine somebody has bought BTC anonymously (for example via cash) and the BTC are transferred to his client. Now he is using his home PC to administer his BTC (maybe for transferring BTC to SR). Don`t you think, that LE is able find out, which IP made which transfer? If they have your IP, they have your name... ?

wright or wrong?
thx
Title: Re: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: acurlenamu on September 01, 2011, 08:18 pm
What you describe is certainly possible, which is why it's recommended to run your BTC client over Tor.  Then there's no way for anyone to know whose wallet it is.
Title: Re: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: Kurt Cobain on September 01, 2011, 08:30 pm
How do you run the client with Tor?

I have installed a Tor-bundle-browser. It looks just like the usual firefox, only difference is, that you have a green onion in the right bottom, you see a green sign that says "tor enabled" an that it is slow as fuck.

As far as i know, the client is just a program, that connects on his own to the internet. so how can I put these two things together? Am i already protected, when the green onion can be seen in the right bottom?

Title: Re: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: Gordo on September 01, 2011, 10:05 pm
No its not enough just have tor open, I personally feel this single step should be absoutley used by all SR users...a sticky perhaprs? Very important.

Do it like this:

Once you have your Tor client up & running, you can configure your Bitcoin client to use it.
Select in menu Settings -> Options

Check "Connect through socks 4 proxy" with the address 127.0.0.1 and port 9050 (the Tor default port number)

You can check to make sure this is working by clicking on Vidalia Control Panel, and click "stop tor" this should make your connections on your client go to zero.
Title: Re: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: Gall Anonim on September 02, 2011, 02:48 am
No its not enough just have tor open, I personally feel this single step should be absoutley used by all SR users...a sticky perhaprs? Very important.

Do it like this:

Once you have your Tor client up & running, you can configure your Bitcoin client to use it.
Select in menu Settings -> Options

Check "Connect through socks 4 proxy" with the address 127.0.0.1 and port 9050 (the Tor default port number)

You can check to make sure this is working by clicking on Vidalia Control Panel, and click "stop tor" this should make your connections on your client go to zero.

No need to run bitcoin client through tor. IP addresses are not recorded in bitcoin blocks. only wallet IDs.

Guys, do not be paranoid, LEs are not monitoring TOR and/or Bitcoin networks for illegal activity. They barely just figured out how to tap into Gnutella and few other P2P networks to look for perverts.
Title: Re: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: btcfreedom on September 02, 2011, 12:01 pm


No need to run bitcoin client through tor. IP addresses are not recorded in bitcoin blocks. only wallet IDs.

Guys, do not be paranoid, LEs are not monitoring TOR and/or Bitcoin networks for illegal activity. They barely just figured out how to tap into Gnutella and few other P2P
networks to look for perverts.

+1 we are above the fucking law do not forget it

it is we the people that are more intelligent than our government and we will keep this way.

the NSA cannot "take over" Tor as it's decentralized, nor would they know where to start.

P2P networks can be tapped into, but never taken out. Unless you centralize them like Kazaa, Napster, Limewire and all of those other shitcanned P2P ideas that got scooped

up by LE. Bitcoin and Silk Road are light years ahead of this and were made to avoid this.

Lets not forget FaggotBay and IsoCunt, who serve as examples as to what can happen to P2P when it's exposed on a shitty torrent tracker.

They become either government - run after takeover, and / or changed to useless sites with jack shit on

them. Domain seizure is where they know they can start. No domains on Tor.

fuck the NSA.

L75
Title: Re: Traceable connection between client/account and IP?
Post by: trainwrecker on September 03, 2011, 04:23 am
How do you run the client with Tor?

I have installed a Tor-bundle-browser. It looks just like the usual firefox, only difference is, that you have a green onion in the right bottom, you see a green sign that says "tor enabled" an that it is slow as fuck.

As far as i know, the client is just a program, that connects on his own to the internet. so how can I put these two things together? Am i already protected, when the green onion can be seen in the right bottom?

Either your wallet supports "proxies" or you need to go a "semi pro" way.

Run everything over TOR :

1)Setup a Virtual Maschine
2)set it to have an exclusive network with the host maschine
3)configure polipo.conf ( in the vidalia install folder somewhere ) to accept the vm's Ip
4)install firefox on vm and set "your host maschine" as proxy to test if config of polipo is working
5)install soemthing liek Sockscap or Proxifier that tunnels ALL your traffic thru a socks4/5 proxy
( Proxifier is not freeware but keys can be found on the web *coth BYZNF-Y3ZLZ-LQBYQ-QE8EY-LPM5Q
6)install whatever you want on the vm and it will be tunneld thru tor.

Edit: obiously this is the windows way, but basic princibals aplly to any os.

Dont do that shit to check your ebay or play COD4 over tor or something stupid.