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Title: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Absurd on August 04, 2012, 02:21 pm
Considerations:
1. Can MDMA be in water that is not distilled?
2. Will bottled water have traces of chlorine or other harmful chemicals in it?
3. If shaken, will the solution have even concentrations?
4. Obviously I will not be using this water bottle awfully quickly, and MDMA out of solution is okay, but how long can mdma in solution last? Please note; chlorine and other things can harm MDMA>>
5. So considering all of the above, what brand of bottled water or what drink can I use to store mdma?
       - Plastic bottle may harm the mdma if bottle gets hot accidentally or is stored too long

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Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Absurd on August 04, 2012, 04:09 pm
For all the chem geeks:
What I dissolve it in needs to have none of these in it:
-Acids
-Acid Chlorides
-Acid Anhydrides
-Oxidizing Agents
-Reducing Agents
-Alkali Metals
.
Does pure h20 contain none of these? I dont know what bottled water brands will work
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Mashman on August 04, 2012, 05:12 pm
I'd reccomend a large water bottle otherwise that will taste like shit.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Absurd on August 04, 2012, 05:15 pm
Yeah, and it is risky. If anyone accidentally drinks it I've got a murder case to deal with.
But I am worried that bottled water is not going to treat the mdma nice, and am seriously considering risking carrying it around normally.
I want to stress I am not doing this to unintentionally dose anyone, this is for safety. MDMA is extremely illegal and I do not wish to explicitly possess it.
Bottled water is typically contaminated, and I am not sure how do go about getting the cleanest water.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Mashman on August 04, 2012, 06:46 pm
I think bottled water is pretty much free of all that stuff you listed. Why don't you just hide it in a safe place? Putting it in water is going to make it harder to dose and with that amount you might not dissolve it all. Walking around with a cloudy bottle of water is more obvious than having 4wraps in your pocket or down ur trousers.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 06:47 pm
Distill water and store it in a sealed glass container, cover the glass container with something to protect it from sunlight and heat. Doesn't have to be too crazy, there's just no need to expose it to sunlight when you could avoid that.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on August 04, 2012, 09:53 pm
Yeah, and it is risky. If anyone accidentally drinks it I've got a murder case to deal with.
But I am worried that bottled water is not going to treat the mdma nice, and am seriously considering risking carrying it around normally.
I want to stress I am not doing this to unintentionally dose anyone, this is for safety. MDMA is extremely illegal and I do not wish to explicitly possess it.
Bottled water is typically contaminated, and I am not sure how do go about getting the cleanest water.

..but no matter where you go someone wants to take it off you, clubs gen dont like you taking "water" in ..if you wanted to carry  it around to say a concert in the park thats what pills are for.


play safe
TWM
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 10:01 pm
Side note, could this work with other drinks or would certain chemicals destroy it? Perhaps a can of Red Bull maybe? Or just a regular soda? Would that work? I think it would help mask the taste somewhat.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Mashman on August 04, 2012, 10:08 pm
I think bottled water is pretty much free of all that stuff you listed. Why don't you just hide it in a safe place? Putting it in water is going to make it harder to dose and with that amount you might not dissolve it all. Walking around with a cloudy bottle of water is more obvious than having 4wraps in your pocket or down ur trousers.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Absurd on August 04, 2012, 10:17 pm
I've heard having acidic substances in your stomache while ingesting mdma is counterproductive and harms the bioavailibility to some extent, so id avoid a lot of things based on that.
However I did get bottled distilled water and will find a non-plastic replacement container I think.

P.s. the purpose is for use at home/out and about but not at clubs/concerts/venues. It is simply so it is not so damned worrisome to have on me.

Hmm. A drink other than water... I wanted to use monster with a twist on/off cap but I think carbonation can hurt the mdma.
As crazy as this sounds I wonder if milk would work...

@Mashman: Im going to have it in a bottle that is not see through. I will do a calculation based on the fluid ounces and measure it in specific volumetric doses after shaking well. I am very tolerant when it comes to drugs, and have done over a gram in a night, and almost a gram in one line before. I figure if I accidentally underdose it will be fine, and if I accidentally dose higher than intended previous experience suggests I will be fine too.

Again, its not for clubs or anything, I just have a lot of heat on me police wise, and have been searched 4 or 5 times before in my life. I wouldnt be terribly suprised if they came and visited and searched. I would prefer to have it invisible.

I am considering cutting a small hole in a jacket and sliding it inside, any suggestions in the ultimate way to hide a bag (4g is about the size of a pinky i think) in average every day things is welcome.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 10:19 pm
Hmm. A drink other than water... I wanted to use monster with a twist on/off cap but I think carbonation can hurt the mdma.
As crazy as this sounds I wonder if milk would work...

Milk is basic and wouldn't absorb it, it should be either something very close to neutral (distilled or I guess regular water) or something slightly acidic (maybe a coke? Dunno how the carbonation would effect it) to absorb it. I think. It's been a while since I've studied any chemistry so someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe I'm correct here.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 10:20 pm
I checked up on bluelight and everyone says no basic liquids such as milk or milk based drinks, most people just recommend a glass of coca-cola because it's slightly acidic, so I'm guessing carbonation doesn't affect it too much, if at all.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Absurd on August 04, 2012, 10:27 pm
I see. I thought I had read not to mix it with CO or CO2 somewhere, but I can not remember the reference. I believe that is carbonation.
I have my doubts as to the purity of distilled water in pharmacies, I would prefer to get it straight out of a college lab.
This is a strange issue to tackle. as most people who dissolve in liquid drink immediately.
Is it true that MDMA is imported in wine and then brought out of solution? If so, this would be a nice way to do it. Although it is illegal for me to possess alcohol and might end in me pouring it down the drain.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 11:02 pm
I see you posted in the "Commotion Potion" thread, he appears to be having excellent results in real-time. I guess the carbonation from the Red Bull didn't affect it much. Also, I've heard alcohol absorbs MDMA very well, so that would be interesting to try. I'm assuming anything left behind (any sludge on the sides/bottom of the bottle) would be filler that didn't get absorbed, so you'd be getting pure MDMA unless it's cut with something else that absorbs with whatever you've put it in.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: Absurd on August 04, 2012, 11:21 pm
Yes :) I jumped right on that thread.
Right, I am convinced a quick mix and drink works very well.
There remains the question of trace chorine/chlorides/acids/Oxidizing agents/Reduxing Agents/ Alkali metals and how quickly they will degrade MDMA. It is likely atleast one of these things will be present in some form for most solutions, except 'exceptionally' distilled water.
I read a thread on a different site that said distilled water is intentionally polluted by the gov't so people making silver can't do it to 100% purity or something along those lines, the reason I am not linking or remembering exactly is the sight also discussed illuminati and many government conspirisy theories that seem a little crazy.
Title: Re: How would you go about dissolving 4grams of mdma in one water bottle?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 11:24 pm
Yeah that sounds a little absurd because most people could just make their own distilled water and you still could never technically get 100% pure anything. Always gonna have traces of something somewhere. Luckily it's not hard to distill water to professional lab-grade quality.