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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: CrankedToEleven on April 30, 2012, 11:13 pm
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I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing about Tony. Virtually every single new thread is yet another allegation of being ensnared in some con game at Tony's hands; pathological anxiety about what was shipped when and asking everyone "is it there yet?"; accusations of Tony operating under another moniker; armchair "sleuths" offering irrational, nonsensical inferences with no factual underpinnings and parading it around as "evidence". The screaming of retarded children in an abattoir -- all of whom should be temporarily banned from posting until their temper tantrums come to a halt.
What thoroughly disgusts me is that lack of appreciation these vocal cunts have for the logistics of trafficking in illegal narcotics -- particularly felonious amounts. You diaper sniffers need to go watch seasons 1 and 2 of The Wire before you open your fucking mouths. If you don't have the patience for that, just look at what's going on in Mexico.
Even worse is the shameless disregard for the HUMAN BEING on the vendor side of the relationship. The minute you piece of shit junkies encounter any kind of discrepancy between the real world and your perception of it, you being generating these paranoid, destructive, ugly fantasies and sprinkling them on our heads like an elephant taking a shit. Your need for a fix amplifies these thoughts into obsessive, compulsive behaviors, which metastasize like cancer. When I say "junkie", I mean everyone and anyone who can't handle the drugs themselves or the risk involved in getting them.
This isn't a grocery store where a large body of regulatory agencies, treaties between governments, judicial systems, the rule of law, attorneys, enforcement, bank and credit systems, and highly-available, flexible supply chains are tools in your entrepreneurial arsenal. Most, if not all of these, are serious barriers to the cocaine trade. Calling them "barriers" is too diplomatic. The dominant paradigm has but one goal: to fuck your shit up should you choose to engage in the use, sale, or distribution of narcotics. When there's an entire system devoted to the perpetual annihilation of your way of life -- and when you grasp the enormity of those consequences -- you act like a grown ass man who doesn't flip the fuck out because your dope's a day late or because your dealer took a few days off.
I'll update this later with yet more ranting and a list of reasons you need to stop being so fucking myopic about your btc, but I'm horrified by the fact that virtually no one has publicly stated concern for Tony's well-being. And stop using the word "scam" -- it sounds like a nigger from the ghetto complaining about how the government "be scammin'" him because they refuse to let food stamps be spent on Grape Soda. If Tony indeed bolted with intent of defrauding his last round of buyers, then he's a con artist. He ran the long con. To call it a "scam" is like calling Mt. Everest a hill.
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I'm ok with that
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You're absolutely right! Tony didn't "scam" us, he pulled off the biggest con since SR started, and he needs to get credit for gaining everyone's trust so significantly that after two weeks of no one getting anything, people still think "their man Tony" is a "stand up guy" and would never do this to us. I can't believe people are so fucked up that they find it so hard to believe that a man who they never met in their life, and who deals in the shadiest business there is, could never possibly have planned something like this from the get go. Why is it so hard to believe?
People seem to just focus on packages not showing up just from the sale, but they actually haven't showed up from a week before the sale if you pay attention. Not to mention, stickers being sent instead of acid, and him not logging in either place for a week. I think it's pretty plain to see what happened here.
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What's an abattoir? Is this some kind of scam you are trying to pull? Mmmm grape soda :)
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I don't know why everyone's getting so fussy about everything. I'm as happy as a butterfly, but then again every single one of my orders has come through perfectly. ;D
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but why did he make Tmart and why did he take his listings down??
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I'm going to say one thing, just one thing about this current uproar about tony76.
I waited almost 2 weeks for his MDMA a few months back, and I didn't bitch and bellyache about it on the forums. That's actually pretty fucking on-par for international orders.
On the other hand, (and only for the most part), the whiners ordered tony's heroin and when it didn't arrive in 4-5 shipping days they lost their shit entirely.
MDMA vs. heroin. No offense to those of you who enjoy heroin without being irrational about your dope.
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No, you're wrong. Many of us have waited quietly, and are simply letting others know that our goods haven't arrived. I ordered two weeks ago, mine were shipped on 4/17 and 4/22. I don't understand why, the longer we go without receiving our product, the angrier Tony's defenders are getting. Perhaps you feel betrayed? Don't take it out on us.
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Phub,
You hit the nail on the head, and that's exactly what T was hoping for. He played his con out sooo good, that people fell in love with him, and now they are definitely feeling betrayed. The whole T-Mart thing was to make people feel special, and create an even higher level of trust. You know, "wow, if T trusts me enough to let me in on his secret market, I can definitely trust him enough to FE". I'll admit, I was shocked when I finally came to the realization I got fucked up the ass with no lube, and I also felt a little betrayed too. I think the difference is, I don't care about the $230 I lost, and most other people can't afford to even loose $10, let alone a couple hundred.
Lets face it, it fucking sucks what just happened here, but, I think it's time to get out of denial, and face the facts. We got fucked! I for one have learned my lesson, and will never FE again! I don't care who the vendor is, or how much I want that special item!
I do give T props though! That was a brilliant con, and took hella determination to pull off!
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No, you're wrong. Many of us have waited quietly, and are simply letting others know that our goods haven't arrived. I ordered two weeks ago, mine were shipped on 4/17 and 4/22. I don't understand why, the longer we go without receiving our product, the angrier Tony's defenders are getting. Perhaps you feel betrayed? Don't take it out on us.
Are you addressing me? Assuming you are:
If your orders shipped on 4/17 and 4/22 do keep in mind it's 4/30 right now.
And no, the only time I ever ordered from tony was when I ordered the aforementioned MDMA. I'm not defending tony at all and have no reason to. He sent me mediocre MDMA in a simply acceptable delivery timeframe. That's the only relationship I have with him.
I think I may be speaking for the great majority of "Tony's defenders" here when I say I just find the petulant whining of entitled junkies to be incredibly asinine. I completely sympathize with those who are waiting, because I know how interminable a wait can be. I've waited over 30 days for some shipments. I've been scammed before as well. But the grief that's being thrown around is premature and immature.
As I said before, I don't have anything else to add to this discussion. I've shared my past interaction with tony, my opinion on the complaints, my sympathies to those who wait, and my apologies to heroin users who may feel as if I have put them under an umbrella with the whiners. As far as the hoopla goes, I'm not really affected by it, except that I have to see a lot of uninteresting and redundant threads on the front page of the Rumor Mill. Ergo, nothing else to add, except my sincere wish that your package arrives as early as tomorrow.
Lets face, it fucking sucks what just happened here, but, I think it's time to get out of denial, and face the facts. We got fucked! I for one have learned my lesson, and will never FE again! I don't care who the vendor is, or how much I want that special item!
Con or no con, I'm behind you 100% on the finalizing early!
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Cranked to eleven=pine
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Cranked to eleven=pine
Are you retarded?
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well i hate being dope sick. so sorry if i happen to speak my fucking frustration on an OPEn GOD DAMN FORUM
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well i hate being dope sick. so sorry if i happen to speak my fucking frustration on an OPEn GOD DAMN FORUM
QED. Although I sympathize and I wish you weren't suffering right now.
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Are you addressing me? Assuming you are:
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Actually, I wasn't addressing you, (it just looked that way because of being underneath your post) just OP and general feeling I've gotten from defenders that those of us who've started questioning Tony's meteoric rise have been dealt with poorly.
But I get the point, that we should wait a while, but it also seems that normally, when a vendor all of a sudden disappears off the map, and outstanding orders are *not* arriving, and same vendor asks people to finalize early, we presume he's gone bad, and we've been scammed.
I could go on, but you've heard it al already. Maybe my package, described as shipped on 17th, will be here tomorrow...every day seems less likely tho, and our community is ripped apart by this.
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To the OP, calling an entire group of people on a forum "niggers" and then making an incredibly racist and offensive joke about grape soda and its relation to those in poverty makes you seem like an enormous dick, and in my books way worse than people who are addicted to heroin and upset because they don't have any more of it.
This shit with Tony blows because I really wanted to get some MDMA from him.
But whatever. This is a very illegal thing we are all partaking in. Seriously I think sometimes a lot of us forget that.
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the legality only makes it more important that we set a certain standard amongst ourselves. i mean we've all read lord of the flies. Order, rules, regulations...unfortunately are how a society maintains its presence.
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the legality only makes it more important that we set a certain standard amongst ourselves. i mean we've all read lord of the flies. Order, rules, regulations...unfortunately are how a society maintains its presence.
You're right, actually. I'm just seeing this--hopefully--as part of our 'growing pains.' This site, this whole idea, is still fairly new, with escrow and btc both changing the whole nature of drug transactions. And if the worst is true, and this was a big scam, well, it'll be a while, because the pro-tony and the anti-tony, we're still kind of pissed at each other, but eventually this will just be part of our history, and we'll move on.
We probably will be a bit more careful about massive early finalizing for such a new vendor, but like others, I believe in the setup, and just need to be a bit more careful, not to give any vendor 'sainthood' and help others get educated on what is going on. Lord of the Flies, good example...they got a bit harsh, but, well, it can get a bit harsh around here too...
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And stop using the word "scam" -- it sounds like a nigger from the ghetto complaining about how the government "be scammin'" him because they refuse to let food stamps be spent on Grape Soda.
hate to break it to ya', big word guy, but grape 'drank' is mosdef on the food stamp menu...
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To the OP, calling an entire group of people on a forum "niggers" and then making an incredibly racist and offensive joke about grape soda and its relation to those in poverty makes you seem like an enormous dick, and in my books way worse than people who are addicted to heroin and upset because they don't have any more of it.
This shit with Tony blows because I really wanted to get some MDMA from him.
But whatever. This is a very illegal thing we are all partaking in. Seriously I think sometimes a lot of us forget that.
I think it was more for effect than actual racism, I'm not a racist at all and I laughed reading the entire post.
PS: Is your name Gramatik because of the music? If so that's awesome, I love trip-hop and I've seen Gramatik live a few times now. I know USdirect is a cheese head too, its great to see SR has such good taste in music ;)
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OG post was brilliant.
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Please anyone whos been scammed take a minute to participate in this thread so we can get a real picture of the situation http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21213.0
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I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing about Tony. Virtually every single new thread is yet another allegation of being ensnared in some con game at Tony's hands; pathological anxiety about what was shipped when and asking everyone "is it there yet?"; accusations of Tony operating under another moniker; armchair "sleuths" offering irrational, nonsensical inferences with no factual underpinnings and parading it around as "evidence". The screaming of retarded children in an abattoir -- all of whom should be temporarily banned from posting until their temper tantrums come to a halt.
What thoroughly disgusts me is that lack of appreciation these vocal cunts have for the logistics of trafficking in illegal narcotics -- particularly felonious amounts. You diaper sniffers need to go watch seasons 1 and 2 of The Wire before you open your fucking mouths. If you don't have the patience for that, just look at what's going on in Mexico.
Even worse is the shameless disregard for the HUMAN BEING on the vendor side of the relationship. The minute you piece of shit junkies encounter any kind of discrepancy between the real world and your perception of it, you being generating these paranoid, destructive, ugly fantasies and sprinkling them on our heads like an elephant taking a shit. Your need for a fix amplifies these thoughts into obsessive, compulsive behaviors, which metastasize like cancer. When I say "junkie", I mean everyone and anyone who can't handle the drugs themselves or the risk involved in getting them.
This isn't a grocery store where a large body of regulatory agencies, treaties between governments, judicial systems, the rule of law, attorneys, enforcement, bank and credit systems, and highly-available, flexible supply chains are tools in your entrepreneurial arsenal. Most, if not all of these, are serious barriers to the cocaine trade. Calling them "barriers" is too diplomatic. The dominant paradigm has but one goal: to fuck your shit up should you choose to engage in the use, sale, or distribution of narcotics. When there's an entire system devoted to the perpetual annihilation of your way of life -- and when you grasp the enormity of those consequences -- you act like a grown ass man who doesn't flip the fuck out because your dope's a day late or because your dealer took a few days off.
I'll update this later with yet more ranting and a list of reasons you need to stop being so fucking myopic about your btc, but I'm horrified by the fact that virtually no one has publicly stated concern for Tony's well-being. And stop using the word "scam" -- it sounds like a nigger from the ghetto complaining about how the government "be scammin'" him because they refuse to let food stamps be spent on Grape Soda. If Tony indeed bolted with intent of defrauding his last round of buyers, then he's a con artist. He ran the long con. To call it a "scam" is like calling Mt. Everest a hill.
CrankedtoEleven: your eloquence,precise observations, and politically incorrect wit was the perfect narcotic to end the day with. That "grape soda" sentence was one of the funniest fucking comments I have come across on the SR Forum. Mind you, despite my sneaking suspicion that I will in all probability never receive that Molly I ordered from Tony 3 weeks ago I did manage to convince my doctor to prescribe me the Fentanyl patch today: which is basically the junky equivalent of earning a PhD. :)
p.s. wasn't Tony's H vendor signature something like:
"Be careful. I love you all."? That was a stroke of marketing genius! Bravo!! 5/5 FE on reputation.
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yeah OP was well written!
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whats the fucking point of this thread OP?
ok they didn't use the correct terminology.. i think we all got the point.
you're a huge grammar nazi phaggot.
oh btw, TOO LONG DID NOT READ. you could have gotten your point across in 2 sentences dick face
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a con artist who just painted the mona lisa..... [maniacally pets sphinx cat on lap]
muaahaha...muuuuaaahahahahahaha.....muaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha
just kidding. i'm not tony.
really.
i'm not....
muahahaha..muuuuuaaaaahahahaha......muuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha
some junkie just had an aneurism reading this.
muuuuaaaahahahaa...muuuuaaaaha.....ok i'll stop. :D
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I can't handle my drugs! Quick, someone handle them for me. Oh shit, I fucking posted too!
Err.. and grape soda is known on the streetz as purple drank.
That's right, umm hmm I know all the hip lingo,.... Word!
Um wait a second, purple drank is cough syrup....whoops... I knew that Lil' Wayne VH1 behind the band documentary would come in handy some day.
" NONE OF YUR BUSINESS OF WHAT'S IN MY CUP!!!, ITS MY CUP!!!"
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i heard purple drank is sprite mixed with codeine cough... the sprite is what makes it a drank. otherwise, it's just syrup.
two white cups son.