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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: forumlogin on July 12, 2012, 09:16 am
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just popped on his page to look at his listings.seems this seller has got into a dispute with a buyer about the purchase of an OZ of green.the buyer claims never to have recieved and has given 1 out of 5 as feedback.scary thing is grey fox has launched a tirade against this buyer and posted his address on his feed above his listings.THIS IS SEROIUS FOUL PLAY.all uk buyers please beware, use greengiant, sweetleaf, budworx...they are all legit and friendly (i use them) greyfoxx is a psycho....he started up without PGP and no vacum sealing his products...AMATEUR.he appears mentally unstable and silkroad admin should ban him for being such a mentally unstable dickhead.hope all uk buyers avoid this guy.....DO YOU WANT HIM POSTING YOUR ADDRESS?????
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Ultimately, this is going to backfire at greyfoxx. Vendors need to value their customer's privacy. If they don't , buyers won't feel comfortable giving them their address, which will result in a decrease of sales.
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oh and btw next time a vendor does something like that take a print screen of the said issue. This way even if the vendor changes it you'll have proof.
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I thought you were joking about him publishing his customer's name/address on his profile, until I looked myself.
That is outrageous carry on and his account should be suspended.
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shit, it's still up there...
i appreciate people have problems with each other, but this is totally out of order and against seller rules.
i sent sr support a message about this, hopefully previous posters did too.
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I have an issue with this vendor but can not say anything because he may publish my address.
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That's a big sign of mental instability. Feel bad for the kid
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I was going to place an order today with him until I checked his profile and saw the buyers address on there. That's kinda scary shit!.... No thank you sir!
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Another buldog ::)
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Hope SR tkae this down ASAP and I'm wary to pm SR support as I have done so with happytimes who was thought to be a scam/lea/great guy buy vanished only to log on today.
Anyhow back to this greyfoxx, the exchange is dangerous! We need vendors with level heads. Sending an oz you would HAVE to have proof so I do not know who is scamming who really.
The mere fact greyfoxx posted an addy in public must surely result in a ban and a closed account.
Even if the buyer scammed, tough shit really, vendors have to make sure any biggish orders are covered in case the buyers cries foul.
So hope this comes down asap.
No way would I buy from someone who is getting personal and using his power as a vendor to cause shit to someone.
Vendors have their own forum and they can PM others to warn against scan addys - that must go on which is fair.
Posting an address online is insane. Its an instant ban as soon as SR catch up to it.
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The mere fact greyfoxx posted an addy in public must surely result in a ban and a closed account.
Still, this fact remains
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This vendor needs to be banned and boycotted immediately
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Have messaged SR support.
Hope that is monitored 24/7 as its possible things like this can happen.
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This vendor needs to be banned and boycotted immediately
We can boycott by warning people here. We cannot ban and hopefully SR can kick in fast when events happen that may endanger people.
I would compensate the guy also - just as a nice touch in lieu of compensation.
I imagine most here would be horrified to see a vendor put up your address.
This is serious shit - please keep updating and keep this thread high on page one so we warn people!!!!!
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Another buldog ::)
THEbuldog ;) ;) ;) ;) http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/cb30ce3d56 ;) ;) ;) ;)
has been a member for 13 days
was last seen: today
ranked in the top 32% of sellers with 100% positive feedback from 59 transactions
has 152 fans SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
-facepalm-
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If this vendor doesn't at least get a serious reprimand (or better yet, a boot out the door) Ill be pissed..
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Imo he should be booted, he gave away the absolute #1 most VALUABLE piece of information on this website. Drugs can be replaced.
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im glad too see everyone else feels the same about this as me.seriously, this guy has to be banned, if thats not possible then i would like to see all buyers boycott him.if he posted my address i would not be happy to say the least. could we start a campaign against him? any ideas? its about time we showed this gobshite he aint welcome here.there are pleanty of LEGIT,SANE and RELIABLE uk vendors if you want a bit of smoke.i highly reccomend Greengiant (altho he is soon to leave) Sweetleaf (luckily ive got him as he is in stealth) and of late Budworx uk has came on the scene and my one and only transaction so far with him/her was flawless.
Greyfoxx has demonstrated severe mental instability and cant be trusted with private info, whats the point of using pgp if he can throw his toys out the pram and do this.Whether the complaints from the buyer were legit or not, he has gone too far in posting his address (WHICH IS STILL THERE!!!).Its too late for an apology to the community and im sure anyone with a brain will now avoid you, your english is also terrible and your rants are barely understandable....go back to the street where vermin like you belong
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From greyfoxx......
"I am so pissed off with all theses vendors charging stupid ridiculous prices especially when the quality doses not match the prices. They take advantage of the fact that they are well known to be trustworthy the use this to sell crap they wouldn't even smoke themselves. In the past I have been ripped of coned, bumped and betrayed. What ever you like to call it the feeling I felt after I discovered it left me to find this site untrustworthy as a few vendors spoil (not one) for everyone. As result I have now attempted to correct all these vendors to insure these mistakes can never be repeated as long I am alive. I am taking on any vendor that are all making bucks by giving their consumers s~~~~e goods. What you are doing is unfair on so many different levels especially morally when the consumers don't know you. This makes it harder for you as the consumers to get what you want (money value). If you're a vendor reading this f~~~k you and remember my name. Hello and have a nice day if you're a consumer. Either way I am doing this just because I have to in order to continue supporting my best habit."
Guess the guy ought to cut down smoking.
He ought to be banned and this makes me confirm that the best vendors stay away from personal shit and their profil pages are not personal messages or mini epic explanations on your 'ethics'
This guy talks ethics then puts a name and address and username of a member of SR up on his listings page.
I think SR is letting us all down the longer this anger management contender is left up.
Other customers are now going to be wary complaining.
Here is the insane piece by greyfoxx just before he names the guy....
"I sell to vendors I share details likewise: if he approaches you with these details FE first. He will try save them pennies, HE IS CHEAP LIKE THAT FUNNY ENOUGH.. I am just waiting for his thread on the forum now please do it as quick as possible you’re a obvious scammer/vendor you cannot possible be smoking that much not be selling. So you robed and now going to make a new account but I know you cannot keep buying new houses, I know you actually don’t have thousands of pounds. You’re house is only worth £222, 000 on the Land registry you not going far with you’re thousand pennies. Worst bit it you’re mum house not evens yours. So when anybody sees this address they know that you will be taken for an idiot and have you’re reputation ruined but. This what you live to do so you’re business can strive it good but it wont make no difference. To me because I am an honest person and karma is a bitch. You dickhead his address is bellow"
This vendor is dangerous.
The poor guy he named must be horrified unless he has not logged on to see this shit.
Sr security issues like this need 24 hr observation. DPR ought to listen to us - come on man, get this shit sorted for us!
I love SR but things like this make me worry for the many who have no drop and might be seeing their address online.
At least if SR act fast it shows like the security is tight. Its got to be monitored 24/7 by people who can alter any comments which incriminate SR or users.
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What a nightmare scenario. I'm going to keep an eye on this thread as I'm quite interested to see how SR handle it.
If somehow he doesn't get booted - we may as well just forget about rules.
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Not only is that the ultimate disrespect it's also an infinitely fucking stupid thing to do. God damn stupid people. They've all got this site way more publicity than it needs and all they do is put everyone in danger. DPR, implement an IQ test as a prerequisite for registration for chrissake.
I think his account's been stopped, at least for vending.
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Not only is that the ultimate disrespect it's also an infinitely fucking stupid thing to do. God damn stupid people. They've all got this site way more publicity than it needs and all they do is put everyone in danger. DPR, implement an IQ test as a prerequisite for registration for chrissake.
When I was at university, no joke, there was actually a regional chain that had passing their quasi IQ test as a prerequisite.
This was not one of those bullshit screener surveys that are standardised at the big box retailers in America. This was a legit IQ test for a minimum wage job.
Made conversations with the coworkers better though. Could actually bring up relevant topics.
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What a dick you cant intimidate buyers into leaving good feed back even if the guy was a scammer it does not fucking matter that is not the way to do it.
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When I saw this guy posting addresses and threatening buyers I new my fears about greyfoxx were realized. I have been waiting for 3.5g of weed from him for 2 weeks, thats next day delivery and a high postage price. After a few days I contacted him and he said he would resend if I finalized early (the same M/O as the guy on his feedback) and 2 weeks on nothing. I have been messaging him today to see if he would resolve the matter (because I dont think he will be on the road much longer) but my request for a refund had him offering a resend, so he will not give me refund but, if he is telling the truth, will send out 10.5g for the price of 3.5g why would you resend if 2 packages have already failed to arrive, I smell bullshit.
Here are his last few messages to me
greyfoxx(95) re: subject
suit you'reself if you're a scammer you go nothing to hide 10 minutes unread
delete
dayday re: subject
Reading your vendors page and seeing you are publishing the name and addresses of unsatisfied costumers you will not be getting my address again. If you want to resolve this matter send me a refund via Send bitcoins to another Silk Road member on your accounts page. 1 hour read
delete
greyfoxx(95) re: subject
if you want i can resend it again if that helps 1 hour read
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dayday re: subject
When I use a new vendor I always use escrow so if anything goes wrong I can use the resolution option. In this case you said you would resend if I finalized early, so I gave you my trust and did so. That trust is no longer there and I have been as patient as I can be. I will not being be using your services again and will be posting my experience on the forum:(
I am risking a lot here if he still has my address I am fucked, but it is only fair to let the community know how dangerous this guy is, he is more dangerous than a scamer he is stupid.
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Looks like he won't be vending anymore. I tried viewing his profile, but all I can do is send a message.
Good looks SR, I would absolutely freak out if ANY of the information I gave to a vendor was revealed publicly.
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From greyfoxx......
"I am so pissed off with all theses vendors charging stupid ridiculous prices especially when the quality doses not match the prices. They take advantage of the fact that they are well known to be trustworthy the use this to sell crap they wouldn't even smoke themselves. In the past I have been ripped of coned, bumped and betrayed. What ever you like to call it the feeling I felt after I discovered it left me to find this site untrustworthy as a few vendors spoil (not one) for everyone. As result I have now attempted to correct all these vendors to insure these mistakes can never be repeated as long I am alive. I am taking on any vendor that are all making bucks by giving their consumers s~~~~e goods. What you are doing is unfair on so many different levels especially morally when the consumers don't know you. This makes it harder for you as the consumers to get what you want (money value). If you're a vendor reading this f~~~k you and remember my name. Hello and have a nice day if you're a consumer. Either way I am doing this just because I have to in order to continue supporting my best habit."
Guess the guy ought to cut down smoking.
He ought to be banned and this makes me confirm that the best vendors stay away from personal shit and their profil pages are not personal messages or mini epic explanations on your 'ethics'
This guy talks ethics then puts a name and address and username of a member of SR up on his listings page.
I think SR is letting us all down the longer this anger management contender is left up.
Other customers are now going to be wary complaining.
Here is the insane piece by greyfoxx just before he names the guy....
"I sell to vendors I share details likewise: if he approaches you with these details FE first. He will try save them pennies, HE IS CHEAP LIKE THAT FUNNY ENOUGH.. I am just waiting for his thread on the forum now please do it as quick as possible you’re a obvious scammer/vendor you cannot possible be smoking that much not be selling. So you robed and now going to make a new account but I know you cannot keep buying new houses, I know you actually don’t have thousands of pounds. You’re house is only worth £222, 000 on the Land registry you not going far with you’re thousand pennies. Worst bit it you’re mum house not evens yours. So when anybody sees this address they know that you will be taken for an idiot and have you’re reputation ruined but. This what you live to do so you’re business can strive it good but it wont make no difference. To me because I am an honest person and karma is a bitch. You dickhead his address is bellow"
This vendor is dangerous.
The poor guy he named must be horrified unless he has not logged on to see this shit.
Sr security issues like this need 24 hr observation. DPR ought to listen to us - come on man, get this shit sorted for us!
I love SR but things like this make me worry for the many who have no drop and might be seeing their address online.
At least if SR act fast it shows like the security is tight. Its got to be monitored 24/7 by people who can alter any comments which incriminate SR or users.
The politics (power) of getting others involved is delicate on a number of levels. Especially for the survival of the website. Dictatorships tend to have long runs for a good reason. There is only one decider.
While unfortunate, and this vendor should be instantly banned and and reattempts from the same geo location closely monitored, I don't believe bringing more people into the mix would bring good.
Interpol, and every other organisation logging every post we make, and profiling us based upon what we write and how we write it, already have the kids address.
I doubt anything will come of it. Worse case scenario some news agency picks up on the story and embarrasses the hell out of him. The UK media is brutal.
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lol, what a fucking moron. Hopefully this jackass is banned
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He was a legit vendor in my opinion recieved two days ago.. and was a little under weight but quality was good. I think that other guy really did scam him, but its wrong to reveal addresses. But theres DOX all over pastebin of people who piss other people off he should have used that.
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Being under weight is exactly the same as getting ripped off. That is one thing you NEVER do, unless you're deliberately trying to burn someone, you're an idiot, or you're a douche
js from experience.
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Being under weight is exactly the same as getting ripped off. That is one thing you NEVER do, unless you're deliberately trying to burn someone, you're an idiot, or you're a douche
js from experience.
here here
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That is truly fucked. Posting addresses of customers, or vendors for that matter, should have some sort of zero-tolerance policy attached to it. Do it just one, and you are out of here, period. No questions asked. I think the SR admin really need to take a hard look into vendors who try to blackmail people into positive feedback, that type of shit is just disgusting and has no place here. FFFFFFuck that noise.
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Main rule is never use your own home address just because you never know what kind of mental problems your vendor has....Use a neighbors house who works nights, or a friend who doesnt get high and has nothing illegal in his home in case the worst happens.
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Can't believe the address is still there
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It's just completely inappropriate to post an address. full stop.
It's a shame that now greyfoxx has gone downhill, as when he started out I remember getting some sublime smoke from there which also had some free samples with it, at an amazing price. Then he suddenly almost DOUBLES his prices (why?) and now this...
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When I first read his page I was a little suspicious about the way he bad mouthed other vendors but some cheap decent weed coming my way and SLL spending time with his family I ordered 3g of "siacosis" from him. The next day to use up the last of my btc I ordered 1g of Colombian gold, and that turned up next day. nice weed with a spliff full of something else. Keep in mind that he was charging a lot for postage the packaging it came in was the worst I have ever seen and I more or less new that some clued up postie was smoking my weed. Since he started his customer relations, as seen on his vendors page, has been a series of incoherent rants calling any one who gave bad feedback a scammer and giving their username. It was only a matter of time before he imploded. Not sure if he sorted out his packaging towards the end but believe me when I say it was obvious on close inspection what was in the 1g package. So I am down 3g and who knows if the kid who got his name published was telling the truth or not but this guy was an idiot .
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This is really sad. I had a few good orders from him, like dayday says there were some flaws like packaging started off terribly but it got better. The weed was great though and next day. To be honest I knew he'd had it rough though and did confide that hes doing this mainly to supply his own habit and as he was scammed. The general tone of his profile seemed a little bitter towards the community. This shit is unacceptable though.
The uk market has it rough... high prices and people scamming, now this ._. sad.
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Thanks for the heads up guys. He sounds like one to avoid.
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I can't believe that mouthy little F*ck went and did something as immature as to post a customers address, especially after all his mouthy Bullshit written on his profile! Sr can do without vendors like him
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Has any action been taken against him?
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Phew, glad I sat back and waited a before jumping in with this guy, he could have done well, his products looked good, but by being a total numpty made himself one of the worst examples on SR.
If you had him in your fan list you can only send a message, I think that means a vending ban, same thing happened to UKpharm. But you can access the profile with the direct url. The private address is still on there SR Admin really need to sort that out!
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Phew, glad I sat back and waited a before jumping in with this guy, he could have done well, his products looked good, but by being a total numpty made himself one of the worst examples on SR.
If you had him in your fan list you can only send a message, I think that means a vending ban, same thing happened to UKpharm. But you can access the profile with the direct url. The private address is still on there SR Admin really need to sort that out!
^^ i didnt know that, thats sloppy... lets hope when I give my address to a vendor its actually cleaned off the system, not just hidden :)
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Hi SR,
Literally just logged on to the forums to check this out as I heard this from a friend. I am 'the guy' so to speak.
I cannot view greyfoxx's page so I hope that it is because it has has been taken down not just because he has blocked me.
As described in my feedback:
Ordered 1oz of this guy with special delivery. He gave me the excuse that he was worried that the post office knew what he was posting so he used a different method that had no record of postage. Surprise surprise no parcel in the post.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt and he said he would reship the oz and an extra half oz as 'compensation' (generous hey!?) but only if I finalised. Once again I asked for recorded delivery so I could have proof of postage for my own peace of mind. Nonetheless the second parcel did not turn up and funnily enough he could not supply me with proof of postage saying that he must have thrown the receipt away.
So yes I very much doubt he sent it either times and my trusting nature was exploited. He has his money, I have no product.
I can see that many people have had successful transactions with this guy and I imagine that is with smaller amounts. If you're going to use this guy make sure you never finalise early as I did as I fear the same will happen to you.
After hearing what dayday said about his similar dealings with Greyfoxx I retract my statement that ' I very much doubt he sent it either times'. Basically I believe that he did indeed send it the first time despite me not receiving any proof of postage. As to the second time I believe that this was very much identical to dayday's situation where he offered to resend 10.5g in compensation for a lost 3.5g but only if he finalised early. In my case he asked me to finalise early offering me 1.5oz in compensation for the 1st lost one. Being the trusting guy that I am I finalised early and received no package/no proof of postage: it is for these reasons that I believe he definitely did not send the 'compensation'.
Some of you may think that I am the scammer and feel free to believe what you like. But hear this: what would I have to gain by posting bad feedback if I had indeed received 2.5oz for the price of one. Obviously I have gained nothing, rather I have lost a great deal here as the address has been posted for all to see.
I have spent thousands of £ on SR and this is my first real dispute. There is not much more I can say to be honest; I am just horrified/disgusted that he has done this and I hope a resolution is found as soon as possible. I have accepted that I am not receiving any product and that I have lost my money I just wish this to be over and for the address to be removed.
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Hope he gets seller account revoked
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I feel your pain, send sr support a pm, to make sure that it gets rubbed. I agree, I think he sent out the first batch but it was so badly packaged it got intercepted by a postie maybe a whole batch if he was as lax with his posting method. I have the insight of knowing his packaging method for 1g of weed and it was substandard. Something made me cringe every time I read his page and when he did what he did I think you should get some sr love.
Wow a vendor fucks Up and there is a chance he will publish your address I am surprised there is not more outrage over this, I have had the same experience has you so if it helps I dont believe you are a scammer. We both Know new vendors are a risk but UK - UK you find out quickly if they are bullshit and exchanging pms you find out who you are dealing with a PSYCHO.
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Hope I don't get in trouble for this, but for those curious people.
Each vendor has an ID seen in their URL, in this case: 820e4c745f
So for greyfox's page:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/820e4c745f
People have to see this, as its a prime example of a scammer profile. Hope SR admin see this and act quicly.
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This guy is a total AssHat! Like what the F*ck is he bloody delusional? very interesting profile read none the less, i hope he gets banned for jeopardizing a customers address. Complete waste of space!
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I lovemandy is a great customer of mine, not a bad word to be said about this buyer and iw ould trust their word over this vendor anyday!
2) "ilovemandy" – reason: never received the good (scammer)
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Their message to me:
no have to give it a couple more days my post is slow atm
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Their feedback to me:
3/5 order didnt arrive but seller reponded, will amend feedback if or when it arrives
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I did stupidly get back to them and did try to resolve the situation but they didn’t want to even want to hear from me at all. I did try my best I even sorted them more then they paid me for but they thought they just lie to save a few btc such a wonderful world we live in. I love these cheapskates they were too stoned of my goods to even write complete sentences to me which at least showed they enjoyed my gear so I am still happy.
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Disgusting. :/
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Ageed, utterly insanity.
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err.. .Seriously now, It´s been how many days? and the address is still up... SR needs to take it down now! on the plus side I sent you a pressie cause you live near me and you gotta be feeling kinda shit right now.
Much Love ACE
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I'd rather not perpetuate this, but it's a page back. It's only in your list of Fans that the link leads to a msg.
I'd imagine he has quite a few now if he's bothered to log in.
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err.. .Seriously now, It´s been how many days? and the address is still up... SR needs to take it down now! on the plus side I sent you a pressie cause you live near me and you gotta be feeling kinda shit right now.
Much Love ACE
I just checked, and when you try to access Greyfoxx's vendor page, the only option is to send him a message. Nothing else shows-up. I don't know why you're saying that the address information is still there. Is there somewhere else that it's listed aside from his vendor page?
Guru
The address was still there, I contacted SR vendor support and DPR personally and they have removed it.
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Yeaaa i ordered some weed off greyfoxx last week, stupidly without checking here first! Surprise surprise it hasn't arrived after over a week UK to UK :(
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Yeaaa i ordered some weed off greyfoxx last week, stupidly without checking here first! Surprise surprise it hasn't arrived after over a week UK to UK :(
HAHA i did the exact same thing, although it was only a 1 g order of SLH, so not to bothered,but yeah i thought he was a genuine honest seller, i bought some Colombian gold off him and it was awesome stuff, really good smoke although the packaging was the worst i've ever seen....
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This is totally disgusting =/ Total betrayal of any trust with a vendor, glad SR admins finally did something about it. Hopefully this guy is gone for good
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I was considering buying from this guy but the text on his profile put me off - ripping into other vendors? Keep your wannabe gangsta drug dealer attitude on the council estates selling your shitty tenbags to teenagers, faggot.