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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: divinechemicals on September 24, 2012, 05:46 am
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There was a thread about a vendor selling potassium cyanide and it disappeared. Whether you agree with it being sold or not, I don't think it's right to take down the thread without some discussion being had first. Here's what I was going to post before it told me I couldn't anymore:
Shit I hope you have it around for a little while, at least until I'm not broke like I am right now. I'm sure this product will be controversial because potassium cyanide is used for suicide a lot of the time. HOWEVER, some people do have a legitimate reason to commit suicide, so it's probably not fair to say that they shouldn't be able to do it. I personally want a cyanide capsule on me at all times in case the DEA busts in and I know it's all over. I'd rather be dead and on to the next life if there is one than cooped up in jail for a long time and my life essentially over. Parents disown me, lose everything I have, etc. Fuck that. Instead I'll let the DEA explain why an intelligent, productive member of the community ended up dying over something as silly as MDMA and mushrooms.
No I can just see how this would generate a lot of bad press for SR if some twat 14 year old who get's raped at school bought this (if it's even legit) and then decided it'd be wonderful to use it as a butter flavourer in the main bully who batters him's sandwich and then doesn't keep their mouth shut about where he got it from. Savvy?
SR would probably get bad press if some 16 year old bought heroin and overdosed on it. It doesn't mean we stop selling heroin here.
Someone said that potassium cyanide could be used as a "weapon of mass destruction." Sorry but that's a bit over-dramatic. We can't assume that in selling a product, it's used to harm someone. Stores sell knives without people worrying that they're going to stab someone. Etc.
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KCN does have many uses besides its harmful effects in suicide or homicide.
However, SR will need to draw the line somewhere.
One bad press or journal article on Forbes about how people are committing suicide or killing other people with KCN they've purchased from SR will draw a lot of bad attention from LEs and congress.
SR should just be a market place for pleasure and exploration. If it stays that way, it will stay alive for much longer.
If there were weapons and poisons being dealt, SR will make enemies real quick in powerful places.
I personally think LEs aren't going after SR hardcore is because of the lack of violence and mortality involved with SR.
But, if SR's image is tainted with blood and shit like childporn, you can bet it will be shutdown sooner than later.
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I took it down, I messaged DPR to get his take on it because it's not just a fuck around thing.
Also the point about a 16 year old ODing on Smack isn't really valid because you don't buy Heroin and Potassium Cyanide for the same reasons. Also if some kid died shooting junk, gunna be a bit hard for him to talk. Use logic.
You need to think a bit more ahead than "Oh I don't think it's right to take it down before we had a hippie sit-down and debated on the rights and wrongs of life which will ultimately end in some more cliches about liberty blah blah". Potassium Cyanide has applications as a weapon and if it's bought on here I doubt it will be by many chemists rather than idiots who want to have a go at "kill the cold war spy" because there are more idiots on here than chemists and maybe even some of those chemists are idiots too.
If DPR says yeah, the thread will come back. It's his site and something this sensitive should really be left up to him.
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I took it down, I messaged DPR to get his take on it because it's not just a fuck around thing.
Also the point about a 16 year old ODing on Smack isn't really valid because you don't buy Heroin and Potassium Cyanide for the same reasons. Also if some kid died shooting junk, gunna be a bit hard for him to talk. Use logic.
You need to think a bit more ahead than "Oh I don't think it's right to take it down before we had a hippie sit-down and debated on the rights and wrongs of life which will ultimately end in some more cliches about liberty blah blah". Potassium Cyanide has applications as a weapon and if it's bought on here I doubt it will be by many chemists rather than idiots who want to have a go at "kill the cold war spy" because there are more idiots on here than chemists and maybe even some of those chemists are idiots too.
If DPR says yeah, the thread will come back. It's his site and something this sensitive should really be left up to him.
+1
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Alright, fair enough. Unfortunately there's no way to stop someone who wants to kill someone with poison from buying the cyanide. But you're right, it's ultimately up to DPR and I'll accept it either way.
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There was a thread about a vendor selling potassium cyanide and it disappeared. Whether you agree with it being sold or not, I don't think it's right to take down the thread without some discussion being had first. Here's what I was going to post before it told me I couldn't anymore:
Shit I hope you have it around for a little while, at least until I'm not broke like I am right now. I'm sure this product will be controversial because potassium cyanide is used for suicide a lot of the time. HOWEVER, some people do have a legitimate reason to commit suicide, so it's probably not fair to say that they shouldn't be able to do it. I personally want a cyanide capsule on me at all times in case the DEA busts in and I know it's all over. I'd rather be dead and on to the next life if there is one than cooped up in jail for a long time and my life essentially over. Parents disown me, lose everything I have, etc. Fuck that. Instead I'll let the DEA explain why an intelligent, productive member of the community ended up dying over something as silly as MDMA and mushrooms.
No I can just see how this would generate a lot of bad press for SR if some twat 14 year old who get's raped at school bought this (if it's even legit) and then decided it'd be wonderful to use it as a butter flavourer in the main bully who batters him's sandwich and then doesn't keep their mouth shut about where he got it from. Savvy?
SR would probably get bad press if some 16 year old bought heroin and overdosed on it. It doesn't mean we stop selling heroin here.
Someone said that potassium cyanide could be used as a "weapon of mass destruction." Sorry but that's a bit over-dramatic. We can't assume that in selling a product, it's used to harm someone. Stores sell knives without people worrying that they're going to stab someone. Etc.
I was the one who said it could be used as a WMD, And it can!! this guy was selling enough to kill everyone on a subway car if released properly.
I dont want people to be able to have this and I for sure dont want to be part of a site that will promote products like this. Potassium Cyanide and knives are two very different things.. One has a proper place in a retail market the other has no place on the SR market...
thats it thats all.. and I'm willing to bet 10 BTC that sales of it will be banned!
want to take me up on my offer?? deal stands for 15 minutes.. after that I withdraw my bet.
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Yeah I don't care if people buy potassium cyanide, if they can then that's up to them isn't it? What I care about is if people buy the shit from SR and if some idiot can shine more heat on this place. SR don't need murders linked to it because that's exactly the opposite of what SR stands for which is why I am skeptical that DPR would be happy with it being sold here. We have to remember that although SR is for everyone that it is DPR's so really, stuff like this is his prerogative and not ours.
Also, to add I am fully aware of it's application in chemistry. I can get it myself so I know what a bastard the stuff is to procure because it's far from a walk in the park even to get little amounts. That being the case it makes me cynical that someone would be able to sell it here anyway. I certainly wouldn't because if it got caught in transit that = HEAT.
So in summary, not being a killjoy on this, just forward thinking. :)
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Hello admins,
It looks like there isn't any problem about selling Cyanide. Can I have my thread back?
Thanks.