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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Orinoko Flow on August 08, 2012, 07:44 pm
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I have i high tolerence to my usual tipples lsd/mdma/alcohol and skunk but never tried ket ... Appaently i have good shit! I sourced from a friend of a good friend vouched for, who has all sorts of goodies... He says the best rhino ket which he's been bevearing away at his stash for at least the last 2 years , he reckons he never tried better so !! Am i gonna like this shit? ... How much dose? Best way to take this stuff?
My friend said "take some pills(xtc) ,, then snort little bits not too much. its fuckin mental" :o
Anyone who can give me some info on this stuff i give you karma, how do i do that btw ???!
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There's a little bit about ket in that thread. I know a read another one recently where one of the big names on these forums (can't for the life of me remember...limitless?) who is a big ket fan talked about it quite a bit. I found it interesting but ket's not on my list of drugs to try right now. I'd go click around the first three pages of this subforum and see if you cant find it.
Good luck
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Ket is like being psychedelically drunk, without the mind-slowing. You know how you lose your peripheral vision when you're drunk? like that, the visual effects are very similar, however ketamine's tend's to be much clearer as your intact non-sedated mind allows you to appreciate the visual effects. You wont be able to walk normally at a lower dose and wont be able to walk at all at a higher dose.
50mg up the nose, crush the powder up. Dont bother cooking it - this is just to make it fine powder, you may as well just crush it. I suggest a mirror and a something round flat and metal - i use my grinder and crush it real good against the mirror, you get the finest powder ever.
It's safe as chips, lasts an hour, dont take it on a night out until you're experienced. I dont think it goes well with E unless you're chilling in a house, it's not very anxious at all - until you get toward a k-hole then it is quite scary for a rookie.
Have fun, also id personally recommend MXE over ketamine - it's cheaper, feels better, and lasts longer. Ket = 1 hour, mxe = 6 hours +. Ket is a better before bed though as MXE keeps you awake with it's dopamine effects.
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Thanks guys :) and rexethered thanks for getting back .. Pretty much all the info i need.... How do i give karma?
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Glad I saw this thread, I've been looking at the ket listings myself. One of the few drugs I've seen here that I have no experience with and no clue what to expect if I try it. Anyway, just in case you don't already know about it, erowid.org (clear web site) is a pretty awesome resource for information about any drug you're interested in. Lots of user reports, dosing and safety info, and sections on legality and drug testing. Pretty good stuff.
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My friend said "take some pills(xtc) ,, then snort little bits not too much. its fuckin mental" :o
lol! you're friend is spot on. it is indeed fuckin mental. just be somewhere safe and comfortable and get ready for the ride of your life. its out of this world crazy madness, but not scary or uncomfortable at all. you'll just be surfing the astral plane and thinking thoughts i can't even explain to you here.
take a little bump of 20-30mg and just lay back for a few. you'll forget that you did K after a few minutes...enjoy the ride. once you remember that you're a guy in a house on drugs, then you can take another small bump of the same size.
again, be very careful and safe. be extra careful, or totally avoid using razors or flames or anything dangerous like that. you'll be pretty fuckin out of it
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Ketamine is pretty strange, I had read quite a bit about it, and had always wanted to try it, but I never actually had an opportunity to until I joined Silk Road.
The best thing I can compare it to is being drunk and inhaling some Nitrous Oxide. It's kind of disorienting though, because usually with NOx, the high/rush only lasts a minute or two, imagine that feeling for a whole hour, coupled with the vague sensation of being drunk, and you've basically got Ketamine.
Even after all of the reading that I did leading up to it, I still felt kind of overwhelmed during my first time. For your first time, I'd recommend doing it with a sober friend, or at least have someone that you can call and talk to if things start to get too intense.
Overall though, I think you'll like it, it's an interesting and enjoyable experience once you know what to expect.
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Sorry for building off of this thread, I have always had an interest in Ket myself do you guys think MXE is a good substitute when Ket is hard to come by at the right price?
I think MXE is somewhat a different drug and it's ideal use is different to K. MXE is better in lower doses; you dont want to go overboard with MXE as a 6 hour M-hole is intense, it's better to take 30mg of MXE and that's you sorted, redosing when it wears off.
The amount of times ive thought "aw shit this is so fuckin' good, lets have another line or two" and ended up being unable to understand conversation whilst being unable to communicate properly myself makes me say this.
K however from what ive read and felt is better around the k-hole dose; 70mg+
K is more of a clean psychedelic; pure NMDA-antagonistic dissociation, MXE is both this and also has dopamine activity, making it more directly euphoric and giving it a different feel.
In a lot of ways you could say MXE is like low dose Amphetamine or Cocaine; it makes you chatty and lighthearted, whilst the dissociation adds to the fun.
K is all about the dissociation, i dont think it's as great for chilling with pals and it makes people weird.
Dont get me wrong, MXE is real weird too at higher doses but at a good level it's euphoric bliss. Its my favourite chill out drug, it makes you just appreciate how good everything all is, far better than pot as it gives no anxiety, because on MXE because you simply cannot grasp the concept of fear ;)
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i tried k last week it makes u happy
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Sorry for building off of this thread, I have always had an interest in Ket myself do you guys think MXE is a good substitute when Ket is hard to come by at the right price?
IMO, mxe is more similar to DXM than it is to ketamine. I also concur with rexthered that MXE is better in lower doses, while ketamine is better in higher doses.
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Cheers buddy ;)
My friend said "take some pills(xtc) ,, then snort little bits not too much. its fuckin mental" :o
lol! you're friend is spot on. it is indeed fuckin mental. just be somewhere safe and comfortable and get ready for the ride of your life. its out of this world crazy madness, but not scary or uncomfortable at all. you'll just be surfing the astral plane and thinking thoughts i can't even explain to you here.
take a little bump of 20-30mg and just lay back for a few. you'll forget that you did K after a few minutes...enjoy the ride. once you remember that you're a guy in a house on drugs, then you can take another small bump of the same size.
again, be very careful and safe. be extra careful, or totally avoid using razors or flames or anything dangerous like that. you'll be pretty fuckin out of it
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s isomer ket... is the shit. tried it a few times back in the day... i didn't get to experiment with it as much as i wanted.. but i did plunge into the k hole..
all i can say... is when you come out of the whole.. it's a VERY good feeling. KET Feels like a physical and mental wipe of your whole system, and leaves you fully recharged when you come out of the hole.
are vendors on the road offering a variety of k, racemic and s isomer? they both have small differing qualities, but s isomer got more punch in my experience.
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s isomer ket... is the shit. tried it a few times back in the day... i didn't get to experiment with it as much as i wanted.. but i did plunge into the k hole..
all i can say... is when you come out of the whole.. it's a VERY good feeling. KET Feels like a physical and mental wipe of your whole system, and leaves you fully recharged when you come out of the hole.
are vendors on the road offering a variety of k, racemic and s isomer? they both have small differing qualities, but s isomer got more punch in my experience.
i would really like to take the pepsi challenge with racemic and s-isomer K. i've had a bunch of different varieties in my life but never knew which of these two it was. heck, i didn't even know these terms until i started here on the road a year ago. i just knew there was some K that blew my fuckin mind every time and there was other k that was a bit underwhelming. in the mid-2000s there was a lot of this crazy amazing k going around Toronto, but it seems to have dried up...i only see the dirt stuff now. it still works, but i can tell by appearance, taste, and experience that it is distinctly inferior to the stuff i used to get back then. thankfully, with some patience and research, I am now able to track down the real high quality stuff from SR :D
usually i suspect the people advertising s-isomer are doing just because they know it will drum up sales and is a claim that can't be tested by the layman.
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What is rhino ket? Does it mean for rhino's :o
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Rhino ket is this dumb-ass name for MXE/Methoxetamine, i assume the name comes from the fact MXE lasts longer than Ket and so joe public just stepped up the associated animal to correlate to the longer half-life, is the latter is known for its use as a horse anaesthetic
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Well now i know what kets is like --- i took 120mg mdma then had 3 small lines which was nice then another 120 mg mdma followed by 3 large lines spread out over an hour and a half, wow felt good.....Definately the best md combo i took so far...
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Is ketamine more pleasurable than nitrous?
If I take so much I can't walk, will I piss my pants?
Why are there hardly any domestic suppliers of K on silk road for U.S.?
If I am planning a weekend of DMT, 4-aco-DMT, and nitrous, would either K or MXE be a good thing to throw into the mix? I feel like that might be too much variety.
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Is ketamine more pleasurable than nitrous?
That's subjective. When I describe ketamine to people who have never used K, but HAVE used nitrous, I tell them "imagine the effects of a balloon of nitrous that are spread out over the course of an hour". That's not really the best definition for ketamine, since I believe there is a lot more depth and exploration to be done with Ketamine than nitrous. Both are fantastic substances; nitrous can give you that quick and intense boost while on other substances that is really enjoyable. Ketamine can take other substances to a new level, but in a more spread out and relaxed fashion.
In my experience, there is a much more narrow band of effects from nitrous than ketamine. When I say narrow-banded, I don't think of it as a negative thing, necessarily. With nitrous, I feel like there's not a HUGE increase of intensity between taking half a balloon and a full balloon(or one whippet vs. two whippets). For me, inhaling nitrous sort of reminds me of smoking DMT: there's a "breakthrough" point after you inhale a certain amount over a set amount of time, and after you reach the breakthrough point, you get thrown into the dissociative vortex of nitrous-y bliss. I sometimes call this the N-hole, the nitrous version of the K-hole. The N-hole while on LSD is probably my favorite combination in the entire world of recreational drugs.
With ketamine, the effects can vary a whole lot more between small doses and large doses and everywhere in between(my experience has always been through insufflation, not IM/IV) . This is why I feel like there is a lot more depth to ketamine as opposed to nitrous. Small key bumps of K (10-20mg) can add a nice, relaxing body effect without completely dissociating you. I love taking small bumps of ketamine while on MDMA and dancing. Large lines of Ketamine can throw you into the K-hole, which is (for me, at least) an amazing, blissful, unbelievable fantasy-land of dissociation. When taking large K-hole doses of K, I prefer to be alone in a comfortable place with music and lighting to my liking. I also like slowly building up to the K-hole by taking ~25mg lines every few minutes. There's a lot more to be said about ketamine, but I'll let you discover that on your own.
If I take so much I can't walk, will I piss my pants?
Lol, I've never pissed my pants on ketamine, but I suppose it's *possible*. I HAVE had times where I'm on the verge of a k-hole, and I realize I have to piss reaaaally bad, and I have to stumble/crawl my way to the bathroom.
Why are there hardly any domestic suppliers of K on silk road for U.S.?
These days, a majority of ketamine is coming from Indian labs and has to be imported. I, too, wish that there were more domestic ketamine vendors on the road, but I haven't had an issue ordering from the UK.
If I am planning a weekend of DMT, 4-aco-DMT, and nitrous, would either K or MXE be a good thing to throw into the mix? I feel like that might be too much variety.
I think ketamine is good to throw into almost any mix...lol. I don't personally have experience with psilacetin(4-aco-dmt), but from what I understand, its effects are comparable to psilocybin. In that case, ketamine would be a GREAT addition! I have yet to try MXE, but it's on my list of things to order next. A lot of reports say that it's more enjoyable to use by yourself, whereas ketamine works great in social situations.
My last words of wisdom: Ketamine tolerance builds up pretty rapidly, and, for me, it's pretty damn addictive. Those two factors in conjunction can lead to some severe depleting of the wallet. If you've got an addictive personality, I don't recommend ordering too much if you're not prepared to get hooked. :P
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Psychedelic users are so helpful. ;)
I think I will add at least one of those into the mix then. I am feeling cautious because of the addictive aspect of K. However I have not felt any addiction towards nitrous. Could be apples and oranges, I don't know.
I heave read that the combination of LSD and nitrous is incredible according to the erowid report on "Gascid".
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I was SO SO SO SO fortunate to get a bit of S-isomer off Mitanox just before he left, but haven't had the balls to try it yet lol.
Very intrigued to now, but I just took a quite large dose of alprazolam, so I anticipate either no effect or respiratory depression ... neither of which I want :P
Has anyone tried his stuff and is it as good as I suspect it is?
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Psychedelic users are so helpful. ;)
I think I will add at least one of those into the mix then. I am feeling cautious because of the addictive aspect of K. However I have not felt any addiction towards nitrous. Could be apples and oranges, I don't know.
Well, I have to admit, I have quite the addictive personality... if I plan to bring two boxes of whippets to a music festival, I need to actually buy three boxes, knowing that I will end up taking a handful of whippets per day leading up to the festival, lol. Neither ketamine nor nitrous are physically addictive, but they can be psychologically addictive, just like any other substance that has pleasurable effects.
I heave read that the combination of LSD and nitrous is incredible according to the erowid report on "Gascid".
There's a few on erowid that have pretty good reports on "gascid". Just be aware, nitrous while on a combination of psychedelics is almost TOO fucking awesome. They call nitrous oxide "hippie-crack" for a reason! :P
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you guys are really making me want to try K now (esp with acid), it sounds fantastic
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you guys are really making me want to try K now (esp with acid), it sounds fantastic
K with L is very nice, but I haven't explored as deep as I want to with that combination. I bet taking a k-hole dose while peaking on acid would be enjoyable!
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I ordered 100mg of etizolam's s-isomer ketamine. It will be my first time trying it. Whats the chances it is S-isomer? Ive heard alot of people say that alot of vendors claim the have S but they really dont. How will the S isomer make my experience different? Im thinking about starting with a 50mg dose. Good idea?
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S(+) isomer is supposed to be the more psychedelic isomer, but I've never had my hands on true
s-isomer, so I don't know anything else : /
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So how can i find out if its S isomer without testing it? Like will it be noticable?
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So how can i find out if its S isomer without testing it? Like will it be noticable?
there's no way to know without testing it in a lab
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S(+) isomer is supposed to be the more psychedelic isomer, but I've never had my hands on true
s-isomer, so I don't know anything else : /
Is there a difference in looks from s-isotomer and racemic?
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Ket is lovely mate, it is such a shame I have to get it on the street in the UK due to enormous prices on silkroad. Who the heck puts up ket for this much? Ket is £15-20 a gram on the street.
I never mix it with anything, and I love to k-hole so a high dosage is for me. I usually take it before sleep or whenever my yard is free. It is the unsociable way of taking it, but man... 350-500mg in two lines will put you in a deep hole, I put my headphones on chill on my bed when it is very dark. And just let yourself fall... if you relax enough you will not be scared of falling, give it a practice and you will thank me later, it sometimes feels like you are falling out of bed, don't let it distract you. Travel through that tunnel listening to your fav music, let yourself go on that rollercoaster and come back to reality when you are done. Buying some ket this weekend... good luck :)
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Ket is lovely mate, it is such a shame I have to get it on the street in the UK due to enormous prices on silkroad. Who the heck puts up ket for this much? Ket is £15-20 a gram on the street.
I never mix it with anything, and I love to k-hole so a high dosage is for me. I usually take it before sleep or whenever my yard is free. It is the unsociable way of taking it, but man... 350-500mg in two lines will put you in a deep hole, I put my headphones on chill on my bed when it is very dark. And just let yourself fall... if you relax enough you will not be scared of falling, give it a practice and you will thank me later, it sometimes feels like you are falling out of bed, don't let it distract you. Travel through that tunnel listening to your fav music, let yourself go on that rollercoaster and come back to reality when you are done. Buying some ket this weekend... good luck :)
I bought my first gram for $35, hardly even a difference from a gram of MXE so I don't know what you're complaining about. Also I hope you're not ingesting that much very often because that cannot be very healthy for you mate. :o
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Ketamine is quite simply, amazing. :)
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Damn you guys. I keep coming back to this thread and everytime makes me want to try Ket more. :P I just need a good opportunity/good deal on SR and I'll have to pick some up!
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Damn you guys. I keep coming back to this thread and everytime makes me want to try Ket more. :P I just need a good opportunity/good deal on SR and I'll have to pick some up!
Definately worth a try, lovely after some mdma.... Small doses. Know your limits , better safe than sorry... Peace
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Who'd you get yours off of? I heard Kara, fartbomber, and fredthebaker were good but at least one of those won't ship to me and I haven't checked the others.
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Who'd you get yours off of? I heard Kara, fartbomber, and fredthebaker were good but at least one of those won't ship to me and I haven't checked the others.
I bought my first gram from fredthebaker last week, I was really hoping it would come today but alas I was let down as usual. Not even my domestic orders have come in, phooey! :'(
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Ivory is the one...until I get mine in that is. :)
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I saw this thread and kinda chuckled, Iv only had K pressed in transformer cutouts. A lil disassociate is nice but if you robotrip K is soooo clean, like Jesus died for this to be clean. K itl help you to pop your plexus.
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Ivory is the one...until I get mine in that is. :)
Basically this x1000! Ivory's Kitty is suuuuperb! Hope your ket can compare Lim ;)
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Ivory is the one...until I get mine in that is. :)
When are you re-stocking? :P
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imagine riding on a segway but at the same time your really not
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K is very nice. I'm no expert, but I've done my research and experiments. It's safe, and has little to no hangover or insomnia. So it's a bit easy to repeat.
When you're falling into the K hole, i.e. leaving your body, you really want to be able to just relax and drift off. Don't fight it, go deeper, waaaay deeeper..... Listen to music, float around in what appears to be another dimension, you can open your mind's eye, and really look around in what appears to be your new reality. It looks so real. Music sounds pretty weird in a good way. You're so immersed in this new world, enjoy it, take your time. Eventually you question the nature of reality. Unfortunately, you gradually drift back to your body, and it's a bit of a downer. You are not a supernatural being, you are some dude on drugs, again :-) At the same time, it's still nice to come back "home". A bit like a really good holiday.
I think it's best with headphones on loud, music is cool. I like nice trippy psy-trance, bass heavy, repetitive, progressive house. I overlaid this with some chakra meditation self-hypnosis audio mp3 which has some cool "ommmmmm ommmmmmm" sounds like monks make, and talk about inner peace and stuff. Very, hmm, interesting! The hypnosis guy is Glenn Harrold.
You need to be careful where you take it. You really can leave your body for 45 minutes to an hour. Be sure to leave it somewhere safe where it won't fall over and hurt itself, or get mugged. If you are in a club or at a festival or something, and you've had too much, you might find yourself stumbling around, lost, not sure where you were even trying to go in the first place. Losing grip on reality. Strange patterns appear everywhere, with eyes open, but more often in the dark. Kinda cool, but can be a bit messy. Especially if your friends don't know you're on K, and think you're passing out.
Can anyone comment on the k-hole visuals, other worlds? I find they aren't always very spectacular, and sometimes wish I'd see a bigger, more infinite, and bright world, but sometimes it's a bit familiar. Are they more impressive or intense with a higher dose? Or is a full blown k-hole similar to the next, with just longer duration in bigger doses?
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I never mix it with anything, and I love to k-hole so a high dosage is for me. I usually take it before sleep or whenever my yard is free. It is the unsociable way of taking it, but man... 350-500mg in two lines will put you in a deep hole, I put my headphones on chill on my bed when it is very dark. And just let yourself fall... if you relax enough you will not be scared of falling, give it a practice and you will thank me later, it sometimes feels like you are falling out of bed, don't let it distract you. Travel through that tunnel listening to your fav music, let yourself go on that rollercoaster and come back to reality when you are done. Buying some ket this weekend... good luck :)
This.
Just done a line now, stung bitch.. probably didn't crush it enough.. small tear lol.
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fucking sweet
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Ket is lovely mate, it is such a shame I have to get it on the street in the UK due to enormous prices on silkroad. Who the heck puts up ket for this much? Ket is £15-20 a gram on the street.
I never mix it with anything, and I love to k-hole so a high dosage is for me. I usually take it before sleep or whenever my yard is free. It is the unsociable way of taking it, but man... 350-500mg in two lines will put you in a deep hole, I put my headphones on chill on my bed when it is very dark. And just let yourself fall... if you relax enough you will not be scared of falling, give it a practice and you will thank me later, it sometimes feels like you are falling out of bed, don't let it distract you. Travel through that tunnel listening to your fav music, let yourself go on that rollercoaster and come back to reality when you are done. Buying some ket this weekend... good luck :)
500 mgs :o that would fuck me up ...
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The N-hole while on LSD is probably my favorite combination in the entire world of recreational drugs.
This....1000x this....I was right at my peak on some fantastic gel tabs, we were getting ready to head to the beach (private beach+night+full moon+storm off in the distance=best setting ever) I had never done the nitrous thing with any other drug, I used to have a cracker and balloon so I had kind of gotten tired of it...but oh man....I was lucky to be kneeling when I finished the balloon because I reached a state of utter bliss and fell forward into the carpet....I had the sensation of melting through each strand of the carpet, and felt the resistance slow my fall...I have never felt so at peace and totally obliterated in my life. It was not scary at all....I've had those moments where reality just checks out on you...and a bit of anxiety creeps in...not this...Nitrous+LSD catapulted me into an awesome peak and a group of 5 friends went to the beach to play with sand, listen to the water getting sucked back into the ocean, draining through the grains....watching the world turn as the full moon set over the ocean right beside a group of storm clouds with the occasional flash of lightning. By far my best trip ever....the acid was great, but I really think the nitrous, while short duration added some "good vibes" and that just stuck with the trip.
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Any suggestions one a first timers dosage? Going to place a order tomorrow and see what all the fuss is about.
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With all this K talk I did my first Ket yesterday afternoon. I ordered some from our man Ivory a while back when the last big mega-ket thread was going but never got around to trying it. This thread made me want to again. :)
Took 50mg in a relaxed setting, with some nice music and a comfortable spot to just lie down. I did only 50mg since it was recommended here as a safe start dose and I didn't want to K-hole or anything straight up - just get a feel for the drug.
It was quite interesting and on the whole enjoyable. A lot of people's description on here seemed quite accurate. Kind of like being drunk but with clear thoughts. Also very floaty and fun state.
I ultimately want to K-hole, so will up my dose next time to 70mg. And slowly up it in 10mg increments from there.
The really nice thing was that 90 mins after I dosed I was absolutely back on baseline with no side-effects. It's like you haven't done anything. No comedown, no hangover, no nothing. Nice. :-)
DW
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Any suggestions one a first timers dosage? Going to place a order tomorrow and see what all the fuss is about.
If you're snorting it then I'd say start at 30mg just to get a feel for it and then redose.
I love K, I'm more sensitive to drugs so I dose low but the euphoria you get after the numbing goes away is phenomenal. I don't know how people do it at parties though at high doses, I have to be either sitting or laying when I do it.
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Has anyone thrown up from doing K? I have a friend who says he throws up when he does it and that sorta puts me off coz dont wanna be lying there and choke on my vomit lol
also what music do you guys lsten to when on K? I'm guessing some nice trance would be good? Have really been digging W&W since i saw them early in the year :p
But yer definately have K on my to do list as well as LSD and shrooms :)
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Has anyone thrown up from doing K? I have a friend who says he throws up when he does it and that sorta puts me off coz dont wanna be lying there and choke on my vomit lol
also what music do you guys lsten to when on K? I'm guessing some nice trance would be good? Have really been digging W&W since i saw them early in the year :p
But yer definately have K on my to do list as well as LSD and shrooms :)
gw
Thrown up loads of times doing K, you kinda know when you're gonna spew though and I'd suggest mrsuicidesheep channel on youtube,com
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I can remember my last time doing K, felt like a spaceman. Took about 30 minutes to walk up a flight of stairs with a mate pretending we were taking giant leaps for mankind......good times.
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I'm gonna try K (s-isomer from Mitanox just before he left, I got lucky) for the first time.
What would you guys recomend the best ROA is? Insufflation or bombing/parachuting?
I'll be doing it alone, inside in a very relaxed and safe environment (WITH MUSIC ! heh), what would be a good starting dose for insufflating (30mg? more?) or parachuting (50mg ?? no clue). I don't want to hole, I just want to get a feel for the drug.
Thanks, time to get fucked up
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30mg insufflated is perfect for a beginner. if you want you can do another bump after 45 min to an hour