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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: kleenbill47 on March 27, 2013, 08:56 pm
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Okay, normally I buy #4 heroin, and I have no trouble at all injecting it. However, occasionally I'll purchase tar (whether it's because the price to quality ratio was a great deal, there weren't any #4 options available for the right price or I didn't want to wait more than a day for delivery of #4, etc.). As far as prepping the BTH, that's easy. I use a shotglass, instead of a spoon (I have my reasons), use cold or room temp. water (I don't heat it or use a lighter--again, I have my reasons), and if it doesn't completely dissolve, I'll remove the plunger from the needle, and use it to stir the solution or mash the chunks along the bottom until it dissolves. Then I take a small piece of cotton as a filter and draw up the solution into the syringe. So far none of this is difficult.
The problem I have now when dealing with BTH is when trying to make sure I'm in the vein properly. With #4, the solution in the syringe is at least translucent or clear, so it's obvious you are in the vein when you register by pulling back on the plunger and seeing blood flow in. If you're not in the vein right, blood doesn't flow in, and you can adjust until you are. With BTH, the heroin solution in the needle is usually dark and opaque, so it's very tough to see blood flow in when registering. As a result, I sometimes miss the vein somewhat or completely, and the shot is partially wasted until I feel it going in wrong.
So my question is if anyone has any techniques to insure you are in the vein completely when you can't visibly register the blood flowing in? Yeah, you can feel it hitting the vein sometimes. Also, you can try to judge how easily the plunger is pulled back when trying to register (if you are completely outside the vein, it's difficult to pull back on the plunger, or air flows in). Nonetheless, none of these quasi-techniques are nearly as effective as simply registering the blood flowing in when injecting #4. So does anyone have a method of registering when injecting tar that I haven't thought of? I'm sure if my regular type was tar, I'd have just developed an intangible feel for it--but I rarely do tar, so I need a more clear-cut method for making sure I'm in the vein properly. I'd be eternally grateful to anyone who can enlighten me to a way that will work every time I shoot tar.
Thanks to anyone who has any suggestions.
KB47
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I have found that with dark tar, you have to filter it a few times with decent filters. All that black shit is non-active matter, and once removed (as best as one can) you will get a more tea colored solution, then you can get a visual register.
I have a couple spots that I can hit real easy, and I usually don't have an issue injecting tar. I am also accustom to #4 powder, so when I first shot tar it was most definitely a change.
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Thanks for the quick reply, MC.
That does seem like a solution that might work. My only concern with filtering it a few more times is if, in addition to removing the dark cut that's added to it, does it also remove some of the heroin and reduce its potency? Now I can give up a tiny bit of the active ingredient, but not too much, as money is tight. I'm hoping you'll tell me that it doesn't cut down on the potency that much at all, but I think I'll try your method anyway, regardless, just to see for myself and personally judge how it affects the potency.
I too have a vein that I can hit much easier than the others (whether BTH or #4), but I don't like using it too much, or risk damaging it through overuse and lose it altogether (though right now that's a ways off, since I've moderated its use). I'm gonna go try your suggestion shortly, and see how well it works and judge how much (if any) it reduces the potency through multiple filtering attempts.
Thanks again, MC. I don't know how to give someone a positive karma boost (new to posting), but if you tell me how, I'll give you one for being first to answer my question, and doing it so fast. I myself have just given up caring about my own karma stats but if you care about yours, I'd be happy to boost yours.
KB47
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Thanks for the quick reply, MC.
That does seem like a solution that might work. My only concern with filtering it a few more times is if, in addition to removing the dark cut that's added to it, does it also remove some of the heroin and reduce its potency?
If you use nylon wheel filters, then no heroin will be lost. Some is stuck in the filter after you use it once, but you can run a bit more water through the filter to clear that out and get all the heroin.
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Thanks for the quick reply, MC.
That does seem like a solution that might work. My only concern with filtering it a few more times is if, in addition to removing the dark cut that's added to it, does it also remove some of the heroin and reduce its potency?
If you use nylon wheel filters, then no heroin will be lost. Some is stuck in the filter after you use it once, but you can run a bit more water through the filter to clear that out and get all the heroin.
bingo!