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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: b85ZpYX on May 21, 2013, 11:50 pm
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I use SR for personal use/very close friends, but does anyone find it disturbing how easy it is to deal once you know how to use it?
No interest in dealing, but it just seems like an easy in to a potentially slippery slope.
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the idea comes to mind for sure, but what quickly follows is a series of bad scenarios where i end up in shitty situations. this helps to quell the thought of being a local cool drug guy with tons of chicks and money and drugs and OMG IM DEALING NOW BRB
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I gave into the temptation of it. It was pretty hard not to considering I can get a gram of Ice on the road for around $110 and then resell it for $1000 where I live...
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I can definitely see the temptation. The only thing is, weed on here doesn't offer that great of a markup, it's mostly about the same price as I'd get it for locally or a little cheaper. It's the only drug I'd be comfortable selling and be able to build a customer base easily - I don't know enough about MDMA and I don't know enough people who are into psychedelics for that to be worth doing.
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I am currently tempted to use SR for dealing a bit myself... the psychedelics are a good item to flip as in my area they are rather difficult to keep around consistently, and with the purity of a lot of the powders it would be easy to step on them and then be able to make a bit of a profit. I hate buying stepped on shit though so i wouldnt be able to ethically do that. In my area an lsd tab goes for $15 to $20 and so if I were to buy a full sheet or 2 I could flip them for some decent cash..... god it's way to tempting isn't it
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Dealing is a very easy profession, it has some of the simplest rules that if followed equals success!
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I could make a killing getting in a few oz's every so often of that bud from south africa. Could quit my shitty part time job and tell my boss to go fuck himself. But the risks aren't worth it and everyone talks where I'm at and the info would easily get in the hands of a snitch. not worth it. :-\
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Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
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Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
I'm quite interested in doing that myself. Once my exams are done I'm gonna get an Oz as a sample and test it out with a few friends. if they like it I'll probably go for it. would definitely not mind having 1500eur extra to spend each month ;p
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Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
I'm quite interested in doing that myself. Once my exams are done I'm gonna get an Oz as a sample and test it out with a few friends. if they like it I'll probably go for it. would definitely not mind having 1500eur extra to spend each month ;p
Yea, it's quite nice and worth the risk. If you stay mannered and friendly and arent spamming La Fuente too much he is your man. It takes him a while to reply but he is a honest guy. All I ordered I recieved, even with tracking ID on the lost ones and he did a 100% reship for those without me asking for it.
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I could make a killing getting in a few oz's every so often of that bud from south africa. Could quit my shitty part time job and tell my boss to go fuck himself. But the risks aren't worth it and everyone talks where I'm at and the info would easily get in the hands of a snitch. not worth it. :-\
Probably not tbh, that weed is quite shitty from what I gather (haven't actually tried it myself but, by all accounts). You'd be able to make some money on it but you wouldn't be able to sell it for the same price/quantity that you would with decent weed.
Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
His weed seems quite a bit better but the guy is so unreliable! You'd make a nice profit on it for sure but I don't think you could sell it full time it's not a sustainable income so to speak, because you can't guarantee it will even arrive, let alone if it will arrive in a reasonable time. It's a shame really.
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I could make a killing getting in a few oz's every so often of that bud from south africa. Could quit my shitty part time job and tell my boss to go fuck himself. But the risks aren't worth it and everyone talks where I'm at and the info would easily get in the hands of a snitch. not worth it. :-\
Probably not tbh, that weed is quite shitty from what I gather (haven't actually tried it myself but, by all accounts). You'd be able to make some money on it but you wouldn't be able to sell it for the same price/quantity that you would with decent weed.
Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
His weed seems quite a bit better but the guy is so unreliable! You'd make a nice profit on it for sure but I don't think you could sell it full time it's not a sustainable income so to speak, because you can't guarantee it will even arrive, let alone if it will arrive in a reasonable time. It's a shame really.
Actually he is not unreliable. You just need to plan in bigger timestamps. I ordered the weed for the next 2 month already. If it arrives too early and it is getting sold I will just reorder.
Whenever I have the money from the new "batch" in again for a new one I order it. By that way you always have enough in stock.
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Why do you find it "disturbing"? ???
I think it's great Silkroad can offer discount prices on certain products because of the laws in different parts of the country.
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I could make a killing getting in a few oz's every so often of that bud from south africa. Could quit my shitty part time job and tell my boss to go fuck himself. But the risks aren't worth it and everyone talks where I'm at and the info would easily get in the hands of a snitch. not worth it. :-\
Probably not tbh, that weed is quite shitty from what I gather (haven't actually tried it myself but, by all accounts). You'd be able to make some money on it but you wouldn't be able to sell it for the same price/quantity that you would with decent weed.
Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
His weed seems quite a bit better but the guy is so unreliable! You'd make a nice profit on it for sure but I don't think you could sell it full time it's not a sustainable income so to speak, because you can't guarantee it will even arrive, let alone if it will arrive in a reasonable time. It's a shame really.
Actually he is not unreliable. You just need to plan in bigger timestamps. I ordered the weed for the next 2 month already. If it arrives too early and it is getting sold I will just reorder.
Whenever I have the money from the new "batch" in again for a new one I order it. By that way you always have enough in stock.
Perhaps to call La Fuente himself unreliable is a bit harsh, I more mean that a lot of his packages have been seized coming to EU, which isn't really his fault ofc, no one's complained about his stealth. It's always gonna be a risk shipping to Europe from Mexico, probably the 2nd most notorious country on Earth in terms of drug dealing. I've always though he'd have a lot more success shipping to America first then having it sent to Europe from there, less suspicious IMO - of course I'm totally unaware of how feasible that is for him but I'd happy pay a bit extra to have it done that way.
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I could make a killing getting in a few oz's every so often of that bud from south africa. Could quit my shitty part time job and tell my boss to go fuck himself. But the risks aren't worth it and everyone talks where I'm at and the info would easily get in the hands of a snitch. not worth it. :-\
Probably not tbh, that weed is quite shitty from what I gather (haven't actually tried it myself but, by all accounts). You'd be able to make some money on it but you wouldn't be able to sell it for the same price/quantity that you would with decent weed.
Do it on a small base. I buy weed from La Fuente and resell it with a win margin of 8€/g.
I know a few people and those people know a few people. Everyone of them buys around 20-30g each time he passes by and then they distribute it to their friendscircle. By that I sell around 200g a month and that is a nice extra income.
IMO the risks by doing it like that are low, since basically I know only around 10 people and those are good friends of mine.
His weed seems quite a bit better but the guy is so unreliable! You'd make a nice profit on it for sure but I don't think you could sell it full time it's not a sustainable income so to speak, because you can't guarantee it will even arrive, let alone if it will arrive in a reasonable time. It's a shame really.
Actually he is not unreliable. You just need to plan in bigger timestamps. I ordered the weed for the next 2 month already. If it arrives too early and it is getting sold I will just reorder.
Whenever I have the money from the new "batch" in again for a new one I order it. By that way you always have enough in stock.
Perhaps to call La Fuente himself unreliable is a bit harsh, I more mean that a lot of his packages have been seized coming to EU, which isn't really his fault ofc, no one's complained about his stealth. It's always gonna be a risk shipping to Europe from Mexico, probably the 2nd most notorious country on Earth in terms of drug dealing. I've always though he'd have a lot more success shipping to America first then having it sent to Europe from there, less suspicious IMO - of course I'm totally unaware of how feasible that is for him but I'd happy pay a bit extra to have it done that way.
I think we would have to pay a lot more if we would expect a shipping from the US. He would have to smuggle it to the US, where most of the costs come from (coke tripples it value once it is in the us for example).
And yea, I don't understand the system of the customs yet, since around 70% of his packages got to me so far. Maybe its a random control or different control points over which the packet is being sent to Europe. So in the end it might be dependant on the route your package takes to Europe.
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Why do you find it "disturbing"? ???
I think it's great Silkroad can offer discount prices on certain products because of the laws in different parts of the country.
I think he meant he was disturbed at how easily seduced the average Joe could be into dealing. I can see the point tbh. I bet a lot of people are tempted to dive right in without doing the proper research and taking the proper precautions.
Personally I'm far too paranoid to ever try dealing (on SR or IRL). I've just made my first purchase today and I'm already wearing a tinfoil hat and rocking back and forth in the corner.
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I guess, I haven't seen any American customers saying his packages have been seized so it might not have to be that difficult. I don't know how US customs work though and he'd have to have a few different addresses to ship to or it would arouse suspicion very quickly, so again I have no idea on the feasibility, just purely speculation. I suspect that you're right though, or we'd probably already be seeing American vendors selling Mexican weed for prices close to La Fuente's, but there just isn't anyone. La Fuente's prices are so fucking good no one even comes close. Closest thing is that Swazibud guy, but even his weed is like 3 times the price and appears to be much lower in quality. It would be amazing if someone from a country with less of a... reputation could offer prices anywhere near his - hopefully someday!
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Personally I'm far too paranoid to ever try dealing (on SR or IRL). I've just made my first purchase today and I'm already wearing a tinfoil hat and rocking back and forth in the corner.
Haha this made me chuckle, I was more or less the same on my first purchase as well!
I can definitely see where the OP is coming from, as it is always something that is nagging in the back of my mind. "Well... if you just bought that extra 7g then you could sell that and pay for the weed that you smoke yourself!". Always try and catch myself though.
Definitely a slippery slope.
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I guess, I haven't seen any American customers saying his packages have been seized so it might not have to be that difficult. I don't know how US customs work though and he'd have to have a few different addresses to ship to or it would arouse suspicion very quickly, so again I have no idea on the feasibility, just purely speculation. I suspect that you're right though, or we'd probably already be seeing American vendors selling Mexican weed for prices close to La Fuente's, but there just isn't anyone. La Fuente's prices are so fucking good no one even comes close. Closest thing is that Swazibud guy, but even his weed is like 3 times the price and appears to be much lower in quality. It would be amazing if someone from a country with less of a... reputation could offer prices anywhere near his - hopefully someday!
I doubt it. I think LF still has a nice profit margin for mexcian standarts, yet other countries vendors can sell it for more, simply because of the country they ship of. People are greedy, thats why they will take the maximum margin - if they can.
IMO just invest some extra time and risk the run with LF, he will do a reship if your order gets lost.
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I'm quite ignorant as to how much weed costs to produce, but imagine how much business a vendor from Europe, US or Canada would do if they sold mids at £80 an ounce for example. Still quite a lot more expensive than La Fuente but they'd get so much business it would be unreal, as compared to selling it at the regular prices. I dunno if that's even doable but if La Fuente is making a nice profit from £25 an ounce then maybe it is.
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I'm quite ignorant as to how much weed costs to produce, but imagine how much business a vendor from Europe, US or Canada would do if they sold mids at £80 an ounce for example. Still quite a lot more expensive than La Fuente but they'd get so much business it would be unreal, as compared to selling it at the regular prices. I dunno if that's even doable but if La Fuente is making a nice profit from £25 an ounce then maybe it is.
I expect a gram to cost a maximum of 10 cents in the production. I read somewhere that a kilo coke paste costs only 700$, I expect weed to cost less since it is easier to produce and brings less risks for the grower.
LF resells a gram for around 1-2€ which is a nice win margin for him. The problem is, if people smuggle the stuff to the EU they need to bribe if they want to make a big business. And even if people do it, what I actually believe they do, they would not sell it under the market value for the location where their store is located, which means people will not sell their ounces for £80. More likely £150 or so.
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amen
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Wow, great discussion guys! It kinda surprised me!
I have dealt to a couple (2-3, only once), and it just led to a couple stressful nights where I worried that they wouldn't be able to handle what I gave them.
Fortunately the cash is not critically important to me ---- at the end of the day the times I have had using silkroad and drugs have been the absolute best of my life, and I really don't want anything ruining that.
Really nothing can compare to using MDMA and the like with loved ones, and the back-of-the-head anxiety I get from dealing takes away from that.
I really hope that people that do deal are only using it for drugs that they fully understand! I have done MDMA a handful of times but I feel like I still have a long time until I fully understand its effects for me.
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This is interesting subject,
any1 thought about dealing like oils instead of flowers? it could be much easier to handle and much easier to move large amounts imo
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Learn how to grow your own. I average a bit over a lb. or 1/2 kilo of the best meds $ can buy. After my initial setup costs which where recouped after the first run, only expenses are nuits, water/power and minimal accessories. Stay small and safe.
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Wow, great discussion guys! It kinda surprised me!
I have dealt to a couple (2-3, only once), and it just led to a couple stressful nights where I worried that they wouldn't be able to handle what I gave them.
Fortunately the cash is not critically important to me ---- at the end of the day the times I have had using silkroad and drugs have been the absolute best of my life, and I really don't want anything ruining that.
Really nothing can compare to using MDMA and the like with loved ones, and the back-of-the-head anxiety I get from dealing takes away from that.
I really hope that people that do deal are only using it for drugs that they fully understand! I have done MDMA a handful of times but I feel like I still have a long time until I fully understand its effects for me.
MDMA is totally different from weed tbh. If we could compare weed to something, I would say its compareable with beer, whereas MDMA is more likely the vodka.
I wouldn't feel right if I would sell higher amounts of MDMA to a single person due to its neurotoxy and the danger of that person to abuse it. I sold small portions, such as .5 to persons I do know, but only after giving them a few informations about how to consume it and how not to (for example that partying on it isnt the best, drink a lot of water, don't mix it up, don't do it more than once a month, etc).
I have a mate who does sell it in bulks, yet his view on that substance is different than mine. IMO MDMA is a beautfil thing, but it isn't candy. It's quite dangerous if you do it too often and it can fuck up your life deeply.
I read a nice post by someone in this forums a few weeks ago, sadly I forgot his full name ( it was some doctor giving advices).
The only way I know to avoid loss of magic and depressive symptoms is to be moderate in dosage, frequency and contexts.
To leave MDMA for special occasions and not to make it an habit. This could sound obvious, but I think it is not only a question of neurorreceptors. It is much easier.
Suppose that you like Disneyworld. The first time you go you will think it is fantastic but, if you go every weekend you will finally get fed up of White Snow and Donald Duck.
Properties of MDMA are so specific that if you use it too frequently it makes you bored. I think it is also important not to expect too much from it, I mean,
some people get obsessed with "getting high" as the first times and that conditions the experience. It is also important, in my opinion,
to realize and think about some effects of MDMA that can be learn during the experience, but applicable to everyday life.
Someone told me that the first time you take MDMA is similar to "learn to read".
Once you have done it, your perception of reality (and your perceptions of further MDMA experiences) changes. You can´t learn to read twice, and, in this sense,
the first experiences will be different to the rest. But you can still enjoy the substance if you are cautious in the way of use and don´t expect too much.
Maybe that does help you on your way of understanding it.
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I expect a gram to cost a maximum of 10 cents in the production. I read somewhere that a kilo coke paste costs only 700$, I expect weed to cost less since it is easier to produce and brings less risks for the grower.
LF resells a gram for around 1-2€ which is a nice win margin for him. The problem is, if people smuggle the stuff to the EU they need to bribe if they want to make a big business. And even if people do it, what I actually believe they do, they would not sell it under the market value for the location where their store is located, which means people will not sell their ounces for £80. More likely £150 or so.
I've seen people say that $60 per oz for Mexican weed (NOT Mexibrick) is common in California. This could be bullshit, or the weed might be of a much lower quality than La Fuente, but if not someone who could get weed in US this cheap decided to sell it on Silk Road, and could avoid the timescale issues that La Fuente encounters, they could easily offer a price that would blow all other vendors bar LaFuente/Swazi out of the water. The fact no one has done this yet leads me to believe it is in fact bullshit but someone can clarify that for me I'm sure.
To go back to the original topic, does anyone here with experience in dealing (SR or otherwise) have any stories or important tips to share? Stuff like not keeping a massive wad of cash alone with scales/baggies at your house should be obvious but after reading that story about the Australian who got done - apparently not!
Learn how to grow your own. I average a bit over a lb. or 1/2 kilo of the best meds $ can buy. After my initial setup costs which where recouped after the first run, only expenses are nuits, water/power and minimal accessories. Stay small and safe.
I wish I could, that sounds awesome. But I assume from your name you grow in your garden - I don't have this option unfortunately
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This is interesting subject,
any1 thought about dealing like oils instead of flowers? it could be much easier to handle and much easier to move large amounts imo
Do you know the saying "The food should be a feast for the eyes, too."?
That's a big problem about the stuff from LF aswell. It is coming pressed into plates which I had to break up and split into 1/2/5/10g pieces. People complained about it firstly and after I smoked a joint with them they were suddenly quite pleased and bought it ;)
There we get down to the problem with oil. The taste gets fully lost and the casual person does not like it. They don't even buy hash and barely LF's pressed weed.
I've seen people say that $60 per oz for Mexican weed (NOT Mexibrick) is common in California. This could be bullshit, or the weed might be of a much lower quality than La Fuente, but if not someone who could get weed in US this cheap decided to sell it on Silk Road, and could avoid the timescale issues that La Fuente encounters, they could easily offer a price that would blow all other vendors bar LaFuente/Swazi out of the water. The fact no one has done this yet leads me to believe it is in fact bullshit but someone can clarify that for me I'm sure.
To go back to the original topic, does anyone here with experience in dealing (SR or otherwise) have any stories or important tips to share? Stuff like not keeping a massive wad of cash alone with scales/baggies at your house should be obvious but after reading that story about the Australian who got done - apparently not!
In regard to that, I could give you a few tips. Do not order the stuff from SR to the adress where you store your other goods.
Do not buy too much BTC from your money, ask friends to buy BTC for you and send them to the wallet.
Don't get too greedy, if you make 1-2k$/€ extra a month it should be enough to serve you living a better lifestyle.
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It's not as dangerous as one would think as long as you keep a small, trustworthy customer base. It's even safer if you never deal with the end user, but instead sell to the people who do. But with the prices here on the road that's not terribly profitable.
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Ah so LF's stuff is like completely flat? Is there any way to make it look more presentable if I was to sell it? I knew it would be compressed, I sort of just assumed if I just left it for a few days it would puff out a bit. Would grinding it up make it look more like weed people are used to?
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It's not as dangerous as one would think as long as you keep a small, trustworthy customer base. It's even safer if you never deal with the end user, but instead sell to the people who do. But with the prices here on the road that's not terribly profitable.
Why do you think it is safer to deal only with the endcustomers? Is it because of the risk that your reseller could get busted and gives the police crucial informations or do you have other genuine reasons?
Ah so LF's stuff is like completely flat? Is there any way to make it look more presentable if I was to sell it? I knew it would be compressed, I sort of just assumed if I just left it for a few days it would puff out a bit. Would grinding it up make it look more like weed people are used to?
Meh, if you grind the weed it gets even more unattractive to the customers. They expect you to have it strechted in any ways then. Better smoke a small test joint with them, the loss you get by that is marginal, and persuade them by the nice high of the weed. After they smoked it once they will return. LFs weed is better than what 95% of the people buy here in my town, so I can easily grab all other dealers business with it.
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Yeah I'm not really so worried about losing money on smoking a test joint, more the practicality of it. I've not got any intention to start selling to strangers though so I'll keep that advice in mind. Some people are quite set in there ways or w/e though and would rather pay £20 for 1.3 grams of standard bud rather than 2.6 grams of compressed weed of similar quality, for some reason. I'm sure you know what I mean.
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Yeah I'm not really so worried about losing money on smoking a test joint, more the practicality of it. I've not got any intention to start selling to strangers though so I'll keep that advice in mind. Some people are quite set in there ways or w/e though and would rather pay £20 for 1.3 grams of standard bud rather than 2.6 grams of compressed weed of similar quality, for some reason. I'm sure you know what I mean.
Yep, that guys are the people who have a bit more money to spend for it and don't enjoy it, for their random reasons. On the other hand I am studying and like me most of my friends have a limited budget, which leads to people trying it and realizing that it is not as bad as they expected.
Once you persuaded them with a test joint around 50-70% of them will buy it aswell, yet you will always have those people who are stubborn.
Anyways, good luck with your business. Don't get too greedy and don't scam the people, better sell them 1.1g instead of 1, this will make them come back to you aswell and the whole "dealing" gets to a better relationship aswell since they enjoy your service.
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It's not as dangerous as one would think as long as you keep a small, trustworthy customer base. It's even safer if you never deal with the end user, but instead sell to the people who do. But with the prices here on the road that's not terribly profitable.
Why do you think it is safer to deal only with the endcustomers? Is it because of the risk that your reseller could get busted and gives the police crucial informations or do you have other genuine reasons?
Ah so LF's stuff is like completely flat? Is there any way to make it look more presentable if I was to sell it? I knew it would be compressed, I sort of just assumed if I just left it for a few days it would puff out a bit. Would grinding it up make it look more like weed people are used to?
Meh, if you grind the weed it gets even more unattractive to the customers. They expect you to have it strechted in any ways then. Better smoke a small test joint with them, the loss you get by that is marginal, and persuade them by the nice high of the weed. After they smoked it once they will return. LFs weed is better than what 95% of the people buy here in my town, so I can easily grab all other dealers business with it.
I meant the opposite, actually. It's much safer to deal with resellers than it is to deal with the end user, but unfortunately most people have to work their way up to that.
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The best way to get some resellers underneath you is to convince your regular users that they can get their share for free if they start selling off a bit to some of their friends. That's how I originally got into the business of dealing back in the day.
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I've made my living dealing weed for the past 5 years without the Road. I am definitely tempted to use it to start selling some exotics to my close friends and dependable weed clients. I am more tempted to start selling trees here on the Road as I can get comparable stuff for ~1/3 of the price.
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