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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: energyimport on October 17, 2012, 07:31 am

Title: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: energyimport on October 17, 2012, 07:31 am
Im going to post this in two forms to get the best response but...


As I look around on SR most of the products im looking for seem to be a tad out of my price range VS (what i can get pay locally and for the most part same quality ) internationally.

However, If i could supply domestic prices that are very competitive price to international prices (talking USA only ATM)  how would that react to international venders. Im not trying to piss anyone off but....

If I can supply product  for about 3-6 dollars more per unit in a domestic area whats the consequences?

I dont want to make International venders mad and have a back lash of angry people, nor do I want to cause interest in domestic Police enforcement to try and find my ass etc.

Just to give an idea on what I could provide is as follows:

DMT
Ketamine
Weed (high quality)
GHB
Mushrooms (and sortable psylicibin)
MDMA and pressed pills
Xannax and Valium
Adderal, Ritalin, and other similar stimulants.

I would like to get a feel from the community before I take the plunge and make a seller account...any feed back would be great.


Thanks you




Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: smokeweed420 on October 17, 2012, 08:29 am
This is a free market.. who cares if you make people angry? it will just make them lower their prices as well. this isnt like dealing on the street. its not like your competition is going to going to come to your house and break your legs if they are mad here. competition is good for the market
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: mushitup on October 17, 2012, 08:57 am
Undercut as much as you want, the community will welcome you with open arms.  As mentioned above it will lower prices from any vendor competition as well if you're successful which is also good for the buyers on the site.  Free market etc etc
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: HardHustle on October 17, 2012, 10:39 am
If you undercut me I'm gonna call the cops on you.  >:(
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Shroomeister on October 17, 2012, 10:49 am
Supply lowers demand hence lowering price. We all learned that in middle school.

Bring what you got, but be warned when you find most vendors prices about the same on things it is usually for a reason.

Setting up and maintaining a good and SAFE vendor account requires time, patience, supplies and $.


If you just wanna throw your goods in a sandwich bag and lick a stamp on an envelope and have the cheapest prices, then you won't last.

A lot come and go, then the ones that stay. Even  more just talk and never even come.

I strongly feel no one will be upset at you if you step forward with a professional service and can still offer lower pricing then anyone else.

bring it. You are welcome here.
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: energyimport on October 17, 2012, 03:58 pm
I guess that is something I didnt consider. Professional packaging cost, a Vender account cost, and then lost of money based on Bit Coin rates  not to mention over all scammers ect. I would have to do a lot  more research when putting this together.

Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: danconia on October 17, 2012, 05:49 pm
Supply lowers demand hence lowering price. We all learned that in middle school.

You're gonna be annoyed by my nitpicking but in econ we are taught that supply and demand are two separate curves.  When supply increases, it is represented by a shift of the supply curve (or some parts of the curve) to the right.  This means in general it will cause a lower price and higher quantity sold.  In this case the demand curve doesn't change (unless we have a specific reason to do so).

Micro-economics is a class that everyone here should take.  As a bonus you'll learn in this class how the government completely fucks up the economy whenever they try anything.

Edit: As for being an American domestic vendor?  Go for it!  As shroom mentioned it will drive the price down for the rest of us Americans.  I hate having to pay a premium for stuff that is closer to me (it's ass backwards!).
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Shroomeister on October 17, 2012, 05:50 pm
also the 1% - 5% lost in bitcoin laundry.


Thanks for the honest reply though.

Do your home work, you'll do fine.
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Shroomeister on October 17, 2012, 05:52 pm
Supply lowers demand hence lowering price. We all learned that in middle school.

You're gonna be annoyed by my nitpicking but in econ we are taught that supply and demand are two separate curves.  When supply increases, it is represented by a shift of the supply curve (or some parts of the curve) to the right.  This means in general it will cause a lower price and higher quantity sold.  In this case the demand curve doesn't change (unless we have a specific reason to do so).

Micro-economics is a class that everyone here should take.  As a bonus you'll learn in this class how the government completely fucks up the economy whenever they try anything.

I could care less.

About your post and your "nitpicking"

The message was conveyed.
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: farmer1 on October 17, 2012, 06:34 pm
Supply lowers demand hence lowering price. We all learned that in middle school.

You're gonna be annoyed by my nitpicking but in econ we are taught that supply and demand are two separate curves.  When supply increases, it is represented by a shift of the supply curve (or some parts of the curve) to the right.  This means in general it will cause a lower price and higher quantity sold.  In this case the demand curve doesn't change (unless we have a specific reason to do so).

Micro-economics is a class that everyone here should take.  As a bonus you'll learn in this class how the government completely fucks up the economy whenever they try anything.

Edit: As for being an American domestic vendor?  Go for it!  As shroom mentioned it will drive the price down for the rest of us Americans.  I hate having to pay a premium for stuff that is closer to me (it's ass backwards!).

You are correct, but isn't what we are really talking about where those two curves cross each other? When you move the supply curve, because supply increases, they cross at a lower point. They are only relative to each other. Price doesn't care which one moved, only where they intersect.

'Increased supply relatively lowers demand, hence lowering price.'

It sounds like shroomeister learned this in middle school and you learned it in college.   :)
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: beren102 on October 17, 2012, 08:28 pm
I guess that is something I didnt consider. Professional packaging cost, a Vender account cost, and then lost of money based on Bit Coin rates  not to mention over all scammers ect. I would have to do a lot  more research when putting this together.



i remember getting involved in some long winded arguments about this in a "prices" thread a few weeks back. simple fact is that in most cases operations costs for vendors are pretty equal across the board. everyone pays 150 for the vendor account. the bitcoin rate is the same for everyone, SR takes the same cut on everyone, and while packaging and other considerations vary depending on what it is being sold, those costs are rarely astronomical. and sadly nearly everyone selling tangible goods has to worry about scam buyers. it's a pretty even playing field in those aspects

the big variable is the connections a vendor has. although there are exceptions, the biggest and most successful vendors on here get the best deals for their product, and can thus pass that on to their customers. the world, and the road, isn't a fair place, and whoever can couple the best prices with customer service and quality of operations should (and usually does) make the most coin. if you can offer similar quality products to what is available for under the average price and still make profits then more power to you. those who can compete will lower prices, increase quality or quantity, or some combination therein. i've noticed MIMM has introduced some ketamine that is priced somewhat higher than most of the K on the road, but is of such high quality people don't mind paying the premium. so there are exceptions. people will pay a premium price for a premium product. so keep that in mind.

you might incite some jealousy amongst other vendors if you obviously are hurting their business, which can sometime lead to silly antics and shenanigans with shill accounts on the forums and vendors review pages. but on the whole that shouldn't be a problem, and i dont think vendors would attempt to snitch on a fellow vendor out of envy. if you can bring the heat then crank it up!
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: baranliam on October 17, 2012, 09:52 pm
I guess that is something I didnt consider. Professional packaging cost, a Vender account cost, and then lost of money based on Bit Coin rates  not to mention over all scammers ect. I would have to do a lot  more research when putting this together.



i remember getting involved in some long winded arguments about this in a "prices" thread a few weeks back. simple fact is that in most cases operations costs for vendors are pretty equal across the board. everyone pays 150 for the vendor account. the bitcoin rate is the same for everyone, SR takes the same cut on everyone, and while packaging and other considerations vary depending on what it is being sold, those costs are rarely astronomical. and sadly nearly everyone selling tangible goods has to worry about scam buyers. it's a pretty even playing field in those aspects

the big variable is the connections a vendor has. although there are exceptions, the biggest and most successful vendors on here get the best deals for their product, and can thus pass that on to their customers. the world, and the road, isn't a fair place, and whoever can couple the best prices with customer service and quality of operations should (and usually does) make the most coin. if you can offer similar quality products to what is available for under the average price and still make profits then more power to you. those who can compete will lower prices, increase quality or quantity, or some combination therein. i've noticed MIMM has introduced some ketamine that is priced somewhat higher than most of the K on the road, but is of such high quality people don't mind paying the premium. so there are exceptions. people will pay a premium price for a premium product. so keep that in mind.

you might incite some jealousy amongst other vendors if you obviously are hurting their business, which can sometime lead to silly antics and shenanigans with shill accounts on the forums and vendors review pages. but on the whole that shouldn't be a problem, and i dont think vendors would attempt to snitch on a fellow vendor out of envy. if you can bring the heat then crank it up!


Very nicely stated! And when you mentioned vendor "connections" I hope you were referring to the vendor's supply guy. If you can afford to put out good gear at a decent price then go for it! Look at Dutchaanbod's WalMart" approach (as I like to call it)...His molly is the cheapest on SR at $18/g...but he's selling a shit ton of it. He probably sends over a hundred packages/day. I thought about becoming a vendor too...but I know myself and I'm not for everything it entails. Just do the research and Best of Luck!
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Red Flag on October 18, 2012, 12:44 am
SR is all about cheap quality drugs! You should definitely make an account!!
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: energyimport on October 22, 2012, 06:35 pm
All good points to take into consideration thanks!
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Aidoneus on October 24, 2012, 04:07 am
To piggyback on Shroom's post, be sure to read the first page of this thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=39346.0

Epic information and will almost certainly bring things to notice that you didn't think about before.
.Hades.
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: blackend646 on October 24, 2012, 04:14 am
If you can undercut these mushroom vendors I would love you forever. My preferred guy isn't selling cubes anymore and everyone else is slinging them for 2-4x the price I'm used to paying, which just isn't kosher. Stones are cool and all but they just don't measure up to cubes, and I really don't care for their unpredictability

DMT & Ketamine would be nice too, big drought lately
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Shroomeister on October 24, 2012, 06:07 am
To piggyback on Shroom's post, be sure to read the first page of this thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=39346.0

Epic information and will almost certainly bring things to notice that you didn't think about before.
.Hades.

Tag team again!? ;)
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Shroomeister on October 24, 2012, 06:10 am
If you can undercut these mushroom vendors I would love you forever. My preferred guy isn't selling cubes anymore and everyone else is slinging them for 2-4x the price I'm used to paying, which just isn't kosher. Stones are cool and all but they just don't measure up to cubes, and I really don't care for their unpredictability

DMT & Ketamine would be nice too, big drought lately

I agree. WTF. I always thought the prices around here were a bit low for shrooms (when I got here) Now I see that it must just be Rocker that is holding the prices down.

there was a shortage about a week or 2 ago, and now I think everyone is trying to cash in before Halloween.

I am not sure when I will have anymore, but best believe that my prices will be the same as always (I have just gotten use to them) so either I will sell out quick..... or they will lower.

It appears like some folks are just taking advantage of an opportunity, Can't hate them for it, but man....
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Aidoneus on October 24, 2012, 07:56 am
To piggyback on Shroom's post, be sure to read the first page of this thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=39346.0

Epic information and will almost certainly bring things to notice that you didn't think about before.
.Hades.

Tag team again!? ;)

You know it. Every chance I get! 8)
.Hades.
Title: Re: becoming a USA vender but under cutting peoples Prices
Post by: Limetless on October 24, 2012, 07:58 am
If you can do it do it, free market is as free market does.