My take on the hack: https://allthingsvice.com/2016/05/14/the-curious-case-of-besa-mafia/
The Curious Case of Besa Mafia
My take on the hack: https://allthingsvice.com/2016/05/14/the-curious-case-of-besa-mafia/
[3 Points] blackhand25:
[2 Points] ciphersexual:
Thanks, an interesting read as always.
I take it the site didn't offer escrow, and transactions were arranged with the admins instead of directly between buyer and "vendor?" It's like a Darknet market from days of yore, before ol' man Ulbricht revolutionized the system.
[1 Points] crystaldust:
that was an interesting article. i think the x-employee whistle blower email was probably not true and just someone disgruntled ?
seems like there is an auto correct error in your article ? i'm thinking twigging is supposed to be tweeting ? I don't know but that's how i read it.....
"Others lost varying amounts before *twigging** that they had been conned".*
[1 Points] onebyte2:
The article mentioned there is written with the sole purpose of creating controversy and getting visitors.
I am going to be short and to the point.
Besa Mafia is not a scam.
The articles claiming it was a scam, are undercover cops who are trying to scare people away from using it because they can't shut it down.
Or they might claim that is a scam to create a controversy story to promote the site, to prove in the end that it was legitimate even if they pretend at some point that is was a scam .
My logical argument is that the *so called leacked database is fake edited notepad text version * of some old partial database dump of garbage
Why is fake?
Who would specify that is his wife? There is no need to say is the wife, mom, sister or other relation between customer and target Not even a 7 years old would say that!!
This is clearly e fake message inserted into the edited database, by some fictious writer trying to discredit the site
So really? The mighty FBI needed to humiliate themselves to make an account on the site to ask info from admins? Do you really think FBI would trust some unknown admins ? What if info from admins was fake? What if the info was partial?
And there is only ONE message from admins to the so called FBI account with a single information about one user!!!
How come??
This proves that the database was edited and the message about info to fbi was added by some person who edited it
Also messages about customers saying this is wife was added by person
This clearly proves that the database was edited to discredit besa
We can correctly assume that the database was futher edited to remove all completed jobs messages and users and to further discredit it
The claims that the site is fake, are based on fake database
the database is notepad text , there is no real database there, but text and zip of pictures, anyone could have editeed that before upload
database contains hard to belive messages , these are cleary fictious messages, do you really belive that some people say 'this is my wife, her picture, info,' kill her instead of just providing name and picture? why do they need to specify its their wife? Do you really think that FBI so mighty and powerful need to make some account on besa mafia and beg for info from admins? Do you really think that fbi would belive the admins don't cheat them with fake or partial info?
Do you really think that this is the way FBI works?
You are really stupid then.
FBI doesn't make accounts on such sites, if they do, they don't say they are fbi.
They could make accounts to see the interface, or hack the site, but they don't say they are fbi give them info
So, anyone thinking the database dump is real, is plain stupid.
There are a few stupid journalists, which readed the fake database, and concluded that Besa mafia is fake.
And hundreds of other sites just took over the article without thinking at all, proving they are stupid as well.
I hope I proved that the site is working and real, because it has all ingredients, customers, gang members, and a messaging system, and the database is fake, because has stupid messages that are not possible in real life
So if you want the Besa Mafia site down, just hack it, take it down, and stop being lame about it claiming that is fake based on fake database with edited text messages where people say 'i am anonymous but here is my wife kill her'
The proof that it is NOT a scam
It has a working site, where members can comunicate with each other via internal messeging system
It has demand , hundreds of customers placed orders and sent bitcoins, this can be proved on the blockchain
It has supply , hundreds of gang members signed up, desperate to do services like beating, killing and set fire to cars, they took orders from the besa admins and from the customers, see the videos of burning cars for proof
So, you have customers on one hand, you have gang members on the other hand who did burned cars and beated people, you have videos on you tube, and a working messaging system, and yet you claim it was a scam.
What stopped customers from talking to gang members to do jobs I ask?
[1 Points] skydivermuscle:
The Besa Mafia appears to be your site, so stop promoting it..
You have over 20 threads on reddit promoting besa mafia.. scam or not stop talking about it, sooner or later people will realise it's your site and you will get arrested for those cars burned even if you lie saying the site is a scam...
[-3 Points] None:
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Glad to see you're still around. The 'so you wanted a darker web' article being the last thing you'd written in months made me wonder if that whole thing had soured your appetite for writing about this sort of thing...I can't say I'd have blamed you, but I do enjoy your writing and had hoped you would return to blogging eventually.