Why are TT and JOR saving customer addresses

I have read all the drama about TMG, Trust and JOR being LE controlled but nobody is talking about the Elephant in the room. Why are these 'vendors' saving customer addresses. They both admitted to it in the calling out of another vendor for scamming. This is either something LE would do or just negligent. http://talismanrestz7mr.onion/index.php?topic=10865.0


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[8 Points] kemolytics:

Guys, you can keep a list of drops and btc addresses for clientele without actually keeping the data itself. All you have to do is run a SHA256 checksum on the data and keep a database of the checksums. If anyone ever re-uses an address the checksums will match. It's the same way computer password databases have worked for the past 30 years. Jesus calm down people.


[5 Points] dabcat1:

A little confused, don't the teams themselves only sell in bulk quantity to other resellers? Just confused if the resellers are keeping the shipment info as well or if they're keeping tabs on the big vendors they sell too? If just the teams keeping tabs on big buyers kinda seems like a smart idea maybe? Like they can have a whole system set up where computers are 100% wiped should LE somehow infiltrate them and keeping tabs can prevent large scale exit scamming. Not arguing security or anything, just want someone to clarify for me please.


[4 Points] None:

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[5 Points] None:

I'm guessing a lot of vendors do this. I definitely understand the problem with it it it's not like they are the only ones.


[4 Points] LongHairBri:

everyone likes the nice professional printed labels....right?

those are printed online at USPS. EVERY address is saved on that sight.

We can't have it all


[3 Points] semiprof:

This is troubling indeed.


[1 Points] whatisopsec:

Shitpost


[1 Points] mescaphysicality94:

It was a rogue vendor he worked with drop he saved(hopefully after he scammed), not nesscarily a customer. Correct?


[1 Points] crushdudes:

Read the thread. There's nothing out of the ordinary about what JoR did.

We at jesusofrave can confirm that Trust provided us with a list of addresses which matched addresses we had on file for an active order with MDMAZING_USA.

As Trust states, we attempted to ringfence off operational funds from MDMAZING_USA which could be used to reimburse past victims. Too much time has passed and with MDMAZING_USA's return we agreed that it was time to communicate what we knew about MDMAZING_USA.

Both of them were engaged in ongoing sales with this vendor. (or were being contacted by the vendor)


[0 Points] slaythebeatz:

For those asking for proof, its all here! Both TeamTrust and JOR admitting to it. If I was a customer I would be concerned. http://talismanrestz7mr.onion/index.php?topic=10865.0


[0 Points] jackoteamtrust:

Boom!


[0 Points] RUshittnme:

< Why are TT and JOR saving customer addresses??

Does it matter why?? If you knew the answer would it then maybe... make it ok? Would it perhaps, possibly justify it? If you were to wake up in the middle of the night to find your house on fire....would it matter how it started? Would you be is less danger if you had the whys and wherefores? Fuck no. You just need to get out.

The question shouldn't be "why" would a vendor keep incriminating info on you? The question ought to be why do you willingly hand over ammunition that could very easily be used(intentionally or otherwise) to destroy you? Why knowingly open oneself up to possible blackmail? Why potentially put your safety and freedom in the hands of an unknown stranger/drug supplier?

Too many people are of the mindset that buying drugs online and using the US Postal system for delivery.... bears little-to-no-risk. For some, just because you can(buy drugs online)… doesn’t mean you should.

It doesn't matter how often or for how long you've been doing it. THAT doesn't mean it's safe...it only means you haven't been caught. Yet.