German Mail: Vendors and Buyers please read

Dear DNM'ers, i am one of you and i feel i owe it to this community to warn/speak out. As a worker at the local postal system here (mid-size mail processing center) and as a DNM buyer i feel i have to notify you all. First i apologise for my English its not my first language.

The days that the mail stood still/delays for a while last month after the holidays (20-30may in general) there have been serious mail checks. I do not think it was police but there were dogs all over the situation and they were accompanied by postal workers. Not at one point i think the police were involved but there are a heap of letters/packages intercepted. As a buyer myself i had an immidiate freak out because my own mail goes through this center as well and i had some haze coming in.

The way they intercepted the packages was nothing like i ever seen, i always believed a waarant or police was needed but if a dog sniffed out something it was instantly taken out and pinched with a large needle. this basically happenend to all letters that didnt bent as well as they should, and all bulky mail as well. But thats not all even regular letter mail from companies like tüv and zalando (germans know what i am talking about) were inspected.

DVD cases were openend without hestitation and resealed with tape and repacked and sent on their way if nothing was found. I knew DNMs were a big thing but i have to say it is huge there must have been over 100 of letters/packages seized and for my location i think thats incredible. This check was the most serious i have ever seen and i dont think any stealth can protect against it to be honest.

I am still waiting on my haze and it has been two weeks (should have taken only 1-3 days like always, and my vendor is rock solid i can't imagine he didn't send it), i have to consider it taken at this point, no way i am signing for anything that comes my way in at least some months. I had to ask at some point what the hell they were doing at my center and find out a little more so i got in touch with one of them. These checks were at this time already going on for almost a week.

First thing they mentioned is that it's a routine check which is clear bullshit since i have been working at the center for over 6 years and i haven't seen anything like this but ok Germany is a big country who knows. After asking what they were looking for they said forbidden materials waepons, exotic animals, contraband and even bones (not shitting you). They had already found a shitload and after i asked what happenend to stuff thatthey found i got a little more calm. Most of it gets destroyed and severe cases get braught to trial if theres enough evidence for a case. At the moment i think i am good since i dont think a bit of haze will get me in trouble if i deny everything, everyone can send anyone anything is my defense. i did see packages geting intercepted that had insane stealth like dvd cases, car radios or even soda cans. like i said before i do not think there is any stealth that can protect against this kind of check.

just wanted to put it out there. i am trying to find out if addresses get flagged or not because i can take the loss of a bit of haze but it would be much worse if my address is being checked now. if i have more information i will reply to this thread


Comments


[15 Points] DatThroAwayTho:

i just spoke to my collegues who are of course of the same caliber as myself substance/DNM wise, and one got told apparently they were looking for weapons or powder-letters (a letter that kills you) because they had received word some people here are under threat. all the stuff that got found in the meantime is supposedly collateral damage. its good to know contraband wasn't the target.


[5 Points] Atador:

Could you provide a hint or a bigger area in which city these searches are taking place? Like "Mountainregion" or "area where lots of football teams are located" or something like this.

Thanks for your heads up!


[3 Points] None:

Thank you very much for this informative post. It sounds like this is a terror related search, so in all likelyhood found drugs will be tossed out rather than prosecuted, but it's good to have this post to point to when people start crying "scammer" when their packages don't show.


[5 Points] None:

OP is german selective scammer.


[3 Points] None:

/u/roionsteroids they're coming after you :p


[2 Points] Xerxero:

I wonder if dogs can smell a variety of substances? Like coke, speed and antrax or are they trained for 1 substance?


[1 Points] lopeor:

Sorry to hear that Germany gets on the list of countries that violate privacy and communication secrecy.

On the other hand, is consumption in private places a crime in your country?


[1 Points] splash128:

thanks for sharing this info with us. As an international buyer intending to buy from germany, does this affects me too ?


[1 Points] SlothWarlord:

Glad to hear your safe, OP.

Thank you for this! I'm sure this will be of help to some people on this sub.


[1 Points] dastampmasta:

the type of stealth that protects is vacuum sealed wiped down with alcohol double sealed in mbb's each wiped with alcohol. My understanding is this will prevent k9 detection atleast for a week or so.

They were only opening packages after a k9 unit indicated contraband right?


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] missingmandy:

Vendors REALLY have to start moving away from DVD cases and start really thinking of new ways to stealth packages.


[1 Points] machete234:

That sucks what could this anti terror thing be? Or maybe its just another operation pangea?


[1 Points] rddtei:

Yesterday I received a note from DHL(German Packet/Postal Service) stating that they've been unable to deliver a package sent to me and that I should pick it up at the Packstation. However, at the time they've written on the note, my roommates were definetely at home. So now I'm not sure if this was just a lazy postman or if it's a controlled delivery. I know that when I pick up something from the PackStation, I have legally accepted the order. Since the order is an amount that is pretty high for a poor guy like me, I'm torn between picking it up and risking going to jail or leaving it go and lose what's a lot of money for me.


[1 Points] Milhouse_Deephouse:

Thaaaanks a lot mate for sharing !!! Im exactly one of the guys who didnt receive their items...

Yea if you can find out if addresses get flagged would be cool.

From all I know from you now and from my vendor, I was defo one of the unlucky, but I can say that a bit against adress-flagging speaks, that I got Items from another german seller this monday(over a week after it didnt come through) just as usual. dunno how long they need to flag an adress though. but I think as long as you dont receive huge amounts which are for re-selling, its pretty safe.


[0 Points] darkn3t:

What is this shit. I need the weed I am about to order soon. We have one local post office here but the controls happen inside the major central... So ordering to germany is a no go at the moment or what? How long will this go on? I really need this fucking weed! This sucks hard. Why does this always happen at the worst possible moments...

Please keep us updated... I really really need my weed.


[-1 Points] aldkfal:

Well fuck, looks like one of my packs just slipped by. and the other two got caught up in the shit storm. I ordered two days after the first one. And still, nothing. Will the germans do anythingto my american address? As long as I'm not flagged or getting the door to my drop kicked in, we're all good here.


[-1 Points] sharpshooter789:

What if I mail art or large amounts of €?