Motion to retire the Silk Road name

I think that we as a community should retire the Silk Road name.

Silk Road had it's run. It was the first anonymous internet marketplace that utilized Tor and Bitcoin. It was very successful for a period of time. But it was plagued with misfortune, notably some major hacks/thefts and ultimately two FBI seizures.

I don't think the Silk Road name will ever recover. Right now, the only people who would use the Silk Road name are incompetent admins looking to prey on incompetent users. I don't think anyone with any technical expertise would work under the Silk Road name knowing that the FBI has seized it twice. And any experienced user knows not to trust any new Silk Road run by some internet randos.

Silk Road has died and I think we should make that official. No trust should be given to anyone claiming to use the name.

May the Silk Road idea live forever.

tl;dr: We should keep the Silk Road idea alive, but we should not use the Silk Road name anymore.


Comments


[195 Points] throwavay5:

No. Its like thepiratebay. Its the biggest name that everybody knows about, and so it is frequently attacked my law enforcement to try and influence the public into thinking that piracy will be stopped. By constantly returning, thepiratebay serves two functions:

  1. It continues to be the biggest target and detracts attention from smaller torrent sites.
  2. The public loses faith in the enforcement agencies to actually stop anything.

The same thing is going to be true of silk road. It doesn't matter about the code base, or who is running it. Its all about a public image. Its a scapegoat. As these markets make the news more and more, people go out in search of them more and more.

The amount of publicly available drug markets has exploded since the first silk road went down. Media exposure grows the illicit market, and if people see that "they can't stop the silk road" they'll start viewing it the same way they view thepiratebay. Growth will increase, it will become commonplace, and it will only get harder to tackle the problem.


[141 Points] JaredUC:

Motion granted, court dismissed... Bring in the dancing lobsters..


[76 Points] Nobu7:

There should be a SR3.0 and here's why:

We can use Silk Road as a sort of bait for LE. We take all our low hanging fruit, give it to the most credible Silk Road reboot, LE spend a year trying to take it down, then we repeat. Every year we should launch a new Silk Road to celebrate Ross Ulbricht day on the 2nd of October.


[16 Points] cynoclast:

Nay. And it should always be operated by the Dread Pirate Roberts.

There's power in names.


[15 Points] None:

I totally agree. Some buffoon over on the Silk Road sub's currently trying to become DPR3, which he clearly sees as a get rick kwik scheme.

I will never touch a market called Silk Road anything from this moment forth.

At this point using a market called Silk Road reminds me of the time my pet rabbit died when I was a kid. We buried it at the bottom of the garden and all shed a few tears then about a week or so later the family dog dug up the rabbit's rotting carcus, dragged into into the house and waved it under our noses.

Right now in this analogy Silk Road is the pet rabbit and should stay buried at the bottom of the garden to be remembered fondly, never resurrected.

Gone, but never forgotten etc.


[14 Points] None:

The Silk Road name should've died with the seizure of the original and Ross' arrest. SR2 was a badly run shitshow pretty much from the beginning.


[14 Points] GeorgeForemanGrillz:

We Put Drug Cartels Out Of Business should be the name.

"FBI has taken down We Put Drug Cartels Out of Business once again"


[12 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

The 4 cornerstones of the Silk Road model are still good:-

  1. TOR
  2. bitcoin
  3. Vendor (and customer) feedback
  4. Escrow

SR2 was so holed under the waterline that it didn't trust itself with number 4.

DPR2, the bearded american called "Blake" seems to have done most of the actual coding on silk Road, but running SR2 imself seemed to send him doolally and he ran off, leaving the irish janitor to run the office.

But he still had a set of keys, and decided to steal the escrow on February 13th - a Thursday, when the escrow is fullest.

The janitor, Defcon, didn't have any coding experience, and knowing that DPR2 could just take the escrow whenever he wanted to, decided that they couldn't use it.

SilkRoad was important. but it was the mySpace rather than the facebook. Time to end this franchise. Its been busted twice, robbed twice, admins stole vendor bonds, it ddos'ed other markets. In fact its done everything except catch on fire.

Let it lie. the main thing it achieved was by finally making a cryptocurrency take off. Bitcoin would just be another forgotten dungeons and dragons credit if silk road hadn't adopted it.

At least the feds won't have gotten many bitcoin from it, in spite of all these busts going down on a Thursday.


[12 Points] totric:

Lets keep making more silk roads so that way we can just use every site but silkroad and stay safe.


[8 Points] sharpshooter789:

This articles pretty funny.

https://medium.com/@abarisser/silk-road-317-0-shut-down-b12470515b74


[7 Points] 198729172:

The name will never be retired because its a brand name and brands as big as SR will never die. There will always be a devoted following to the majestic green camel.


[2 Points] galaxyandspace:

Automoderator has been programmed to remove all mentions of the third incarnation of the road of silk. Just so you know...


[3 Points] fuckoffplsthankyou:

Whomever decides to use that name should be prepared for the heat it will bring.

With that being said, I would love to see a quality admin handle a version of the Silk Road with the skill the admins of the Pirate bay showed.


[3 Points] deepdot:

My offer still stands :)

I think there should be a punishment from now on - any site to brand itself as "Silk Road XXXXX" - to be automatically barred from being listed on any marketplace list. Im giving this one 2 days before removing him completely from my list as i suspect that these name changes are just to get more customer and exit scam.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2lk9u1/coming_soon_to_a_computer_near_you_silk_road/clvloon


[2 Points] earthmoonsun:

a market named S R will always get atttention and that becomes more important the more markets there are


[2 Points] None:

Nice try FBI


[2 Points] TheAuth0r:

SR 2.0 had good prices/vendors even with all the hate.


[1 Points] Deafcunt:

Yup.


[1 Points] woobpac:

Good things come in threes.. Third times a charm. etc.


[1 Points] 13tom13:

Aye! it will just attract negative attention


[1 Points] joey_l:

Second!


[1 Points] isskewl:

I don't think the name will ever figure into security, because under any name such a marketplace will always be a target and could always be a honeypot. The goal is to develop the kind of ironclad, independently verifiable security measures that are the only means of ensuring sustainable operation. Once those are dialed, it could be called 'Silk Road', 'The Corner', or 'The Suck My Salty Balls, Pigs! Market'. The name will never expose or protect a site that is an automatic target for what it is, not what it's called.


[1 Points] dnmuse:

We're not the end all be all of the DNM community. People are gonna do what they want. If someone was looking for some quick sharp money and lived in a country with a harsh relationship with the USA, what's to stop them from using a name with recognition?


[1 Points] DicksWillBeFucked:

I mean, next one ought to be called Trinity should it not? 3rd times a charm.


[1 Points] slicksr:

| May the Silk Road idea live forever.

For that reason, Silk Road can never die.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] GeorgeForemanGrillz:

We are all Dread Pirate Roberts and everywhere is Silk Road


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] BeautifulMania:

Long live the Velvet Trail


[1 Points] sattorn:

Call it fucking Hydra and get it over with.

Why hasn't anyone suggested this yet?


[1 Points] ThinkFlat:

The Silk Road wasn't seized because of it's name. So, basically that is a dumb suggestion. Due to the fact that most humans are dumb, your dumb suggestion is a good idea. But I truely believe that the mayority of people is so fucking dumb that they even don't understand what you are saying.

Conclusion: Whoever will be able to become the new silk page owner will earn a lot of money.


[1 Points] Tripped_:

rip in peace silkroad ;_;7


[1 Points] chrisidone:

It's natural selection at it's best.


[1 Points] s0urpatch:

How bout "FurStreet" ?


[1 Points] BKAtty99217:

Second.


[-1 Points] None:

Motion granted, don't wake me up this early every again.