How far can plausible deniability get you?

For the past few days I've been toying with the idea of ordering 1kg of MDMA from the Netherlands.

JOR has a great reputation in regards to his LSD, and I've seen some comments about his MDMA being fire. What I'm wondering is, if a CD happens how far can plausible deniability get me for a pack that large?

My OPSEC is good, I don't ever make the purchases personally but I give my partner cash and they purchase bitcoin, tumble, etc. My drop is clean 100% of the time, my computer and cell phone is clean also.

With good OPSEC and no criminal record, would plausible deniability still work for such large orders? Or would jail time and/or plea deal be inevitable since it's coming from a flagged country and the amount it is coming in?

Also here is what JOR claims on his website:

Shipping MDMA from the Netherlands to the United States has been 100% successful with current stealth procedures. We plan to offer the option to ship Source A from a non-flagged country soon.

Does anyone from the US have experience with ordering bulk MDMA from JOR and what are your views on ordering from him as opposed to Gamma?

Thank you.


Comments


[14 Points] TheOpiateKing:

If your Opsec is 10000% tight then yeah you're fine. I'll probably get downvoted for this but it's the truth.


[13 Points] Mellow334:

If you're place is completely clean then yeah you will get away with it order something else as well like a playstation and make sure the md comes first so if it is a cd you can say thought you were signing for the playstation you ordered.


[5 Points] Intothekhole:

With something so big they may let it go and watch you, just because you don't get a cd doesn't mean you aren't caught. But I think you'll be good if you're careful


[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] None:

Why don't you order from a vendor that doesn't ship from NL that has fire ass shit like SB or CP


[2 Points] 420krigeren:

I've heard JoR's MDMA stealth is really really good. Some people threw out their packs because they couldn't find it.


[1 Points] trickricksick:

who is jor lol?


[1 Points] NZT-1:

It will get you pretty far, your on the right track friend. I'll give you a hint, the further away you are from the money the better. More degrees of separation is great. Look into Nevada and west Africa if your playing with the big boys. You MUST give the Us their cut.


[0 Points] ChicagoDrillinois:

hm per g man

gotta lmk at that MUCH M


[-5 Points] brightBlinker:

This bullshit of "Oh if I don't sign for it I can't get charged with it! lolololol" is 100% just that: bullshit.

If it gets to the point of a CD, your ass is grass and you better shut the hell up and get a lawyer somehow. Cops are dirty, they will lie, cheat and steal to get what they want...and if they want you, they're gonna get you no matter what.

So be careful, don't be dumb and use a fake name or something. You're doing the right thing by using a well-known vendor, just keep it low key and you should be fine....of course I'd never, ever, ever order from another country but that's just me.

In my opinion, international ordering is bad opsec. Not to mention, when you do that a ton of agencies get involved if you get charged. DoD gets involved, Air Force (likely will be on a plane affiliated with them somehow), DoHS, TSA, US Air Marshals, FBI will already be on you anyway as well as the DEA and Postmaster General, ICE, Customs and all of those motherfuckers...so just know the risks man.

Domestic, you're looking at local LE, Postmaster, DEA most likely and FBI depending on the scale of what you're doing. International, you can basically double or triple that list.

If you don't believe me about the USAF and shit, look up articles. I have very close ties with intelligence workers and I can guarantee you the military authorities will be involved if you get popped shipping stuff internationally due to the aircraft being used.

So know the risks, calculate how much paranoia you're willing to endure and hope for luck....be safe dude.

Not trying to scare you, just want to be honest.