Weird way to sell drugs IRL without getting caught

If your wholesaling decent amounts of drugs to a few different resellers in real life theres a safe way for you that requires a little trust on the buyers end and requires them to be comfortable with drugs shipped to their house.

Have customers pay 1/2 upfront and half on delivery if your feeling nice, or full upfront

Instead of meeting up in real life to do drug transactions and getting setup by reseller snitching/ or robbed have them pay you by making moneygram/western union payments directly to traders on your local bitcoins account that accept these forms of payment. So they are paying you in BTC without even knowing and being able to wiseup and learn about Dnms and leave you out of the equation. If they ask why things are getting shipped from other states just say you have friends with friends who have connections all over.

combined with a burner phone this leaves no paper trail/ evidence of the transaction tied to you incase things go downhill.

If they get a CD they wont be able to tie you into it or set you up as long as you have a clean house. Better to keep real in person contact with resellers to a minimum/non existant.

Order drugs from dnms directly to their adress.

may not be worth it for doing small sales but if your a mid/large scale reseller and your already ordering packs and then selling them whole in just a few transactions this is a way that leaves pretty much no evidence since you arent getting your hands dirty. It took a little bit of talking to convince people to get with the program but they wanted their high quality drugs so they did.

Theres a few headaches that come with this type of selling like a vendor making an error in quantity of package, scamming, seizures, having all your dealing money in BTC that required a cashout instead of simple cash on the spot, but for being pretty much impossible to get caught id say thats worth it. You can stay in the game a while using this method, the thought of doing like 20 years for having a few ounces of mdma terrifies me.

Sitting around on your ass clicking buttons to have drugs show up at peoples houses instead of constant meetups/paranoia of having bulk in possession and getting your door busted in. completely removed almost all paranoia of dealing for me, but never let your guard down.


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[16 Points] None:

Good idea, I just don't know anyone who'd be willing to wait a few days after paying.


[10 Points] powerman15:

"Have customers pay 1/2 upfront and half on delivery if your feeling nice, or full upfront"

Rule #1. NEVER PAY FOR DRUGS UNTIL YOU SEE THEM.


[6 Points] None:

Seems like a pretty good way to do things, the only thing is a lot of people don't know how to use bitcoin. Other than that it seems like a good idea


[7 Points] daleearnhardtt:

"did you re-up yet, man?"

"EMAIL ME ON TEMP.PM"

"Um.. Okey"

"hey man, can i get a half oz"

"yeah but i only take bitcoin"

"take what?"

"its crypto-currency, duh. after you turn your cash in to coin via loalbitcoin you will send me half upfront FE'd via 3rd party escrow service on the darkweb, then i will mail out the package in a few days and then a few days after that you can sign a paper from a federal employee to receive it then you FE the second half of the money"

"can i just pick it up, man....?"


[6 Points] None:

I did that for like nearly 2 years actually.

It was great, until it wasn't. You might imagine why.


[4 Points] Hank_Vendor:

I would argue that anyone wholesaling a decent amount of drugs already knows how to sell drugs


[3 Points] None:

I'm not sure where you live, but if you live in a big city, IRL if a knock lights up your burner, they want their shit now. If you're selling to a reseller IRL, they want to see the drugs up front and physical. Like I said, in you live in a large city, they will cut you loose with all that BS and they'll find someone else. If you're afraid of getting robbed, you're not streetsmart, or don't have the mentality to follow universal code, then just vend on the DNM.


[3 Points] eddyggg:

This is a terrible idea. You're not part of some cartel with super special and highly controlled mail-stealthing drug-sharing techniques as you're leading your 'clients' to believe, you're some dude using the darknet. Even if you stick to a handful of domestic vendors that you're very experienced with there's still a ridiculous level of unknowns that could happen with your packages. Amplified 100x if you involve international.

Another major issue is that when packages are seized its at least 10 fold more likely it will involve LE/CD/warrants if there is already any suspicion or monitoring of the people/addresses involved, ie. because they fucking deal drugs on the street and live in a totally different world of OPSEC.

And if I was buying from you I'd be really sus on this crap really fast and if I found out what you were doing (and anyone quickly will unless their IQ is < 80) I would want to hurt you and I'm not your local violent drug thug.


[2 Points] AndThenHeSays4:

If someone flips and they're a witness against you then you're pretty fucked IMHO


[2 Points] waxywiggler:

pretty solid plan friend, although if LE has enough patience, they could fairly easy get you with conspiracy charges.


[2 Points] Doguments:

So literally just dropshipping?


[2 Points] coffeencreme:

Someone else floated this idea a while back, I can't remember the outcome but if you search you might be able to find the thread.


[1 Points] Theeconomist1:

So essentially just be a middleman in terms of placing the order on the DNMs? It's good while it works but as you notes how is it handled when something out of your control happens? Your service is basically insuring the DNM vendor. That's what you would be getting paid to do in essence. So just realize that is your primary role. You'd be obligated to make good on all those incidents you named.

Also would people trust enough to pay you if they don't know who you are? If they know who you are they can rat you out but perhaps with proper opsec you'd be okay. I'd vet the customers carefully Bc you don't want them flipping on you.

Also many people unaware of the DNMs are very uncomfortable using USPS to get their drugs. It's the normal first reaction to it. It took me months to get comfortable with the idea. I do agree the DNMs are so much safer than copping IRL but it's not instinctual. It's almost counterintuitive. So you'd have that to contend with.

But if you can convince them, then you'd be safer than dealing IRL for sure. Just realize what your role is. Many people will want to know who they can kick down the door if they get ripped off. So act like an insurance company if this is what you want to do Bc that is what you will be doing. Keep enough reserves to meet scam obligations if the vendor scams you. You'd also need to precondition your customers to be comfortable with using USPS. They will be inclined to do funky shit with the address or use shittt drops due to fear. You'd have to educate them on how to best receive a pack


[1 Points] learnedtoday748:

TIL not to sell bitcoin for western union or moneygram on LBC


[1 Points] e-corp:

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're describing the practice of drop shipping.


[1 Points] GermanMountainHigh:

Isnt this called drop shipping ? Vendors will offer listings from their actual supplier and just have their supplier ship to customers .


[1 Points] Gratefulstickers:

I get the idea and like it, but doesn't this hold a substantial risk to the btc traders? It's a long shot but dude gets busted with drugs and says to the police "I was told to send cash to X through [insert money sending service]"

They then trace seller of btc through wire transfers.


[1 Points] Chardlz:

I do this kinda sorta but the issues arise when vendors exit scam, are slow due to high volume, or just leave the game and now your profit margin is reduced substantially or you have to jack up prices. Also, USPS being slow af never helped anybody doing this type of thing haha


[1 Points] Dr_Zhivago_:

Good in theory. Not practical. Maybe you could do this for a few close friends/family members who understand the time delay requirement. And trust in fronting 1/2. The thing about people like us is we want it yesterday. New clients won't buy into this. What happens if the vendor goes AWOL/exits or mail is intercepted en route. And if there is a CD, even though you personally never touched it you'll still be incriminated if they squeal. And they all do. There'll be a name drop. They don't know or understand a 100%, stand your ground full on deny of any knowledge expecting delivery of drugs in the mail with YOUR name on the package. Before his arrest, the Feds first encounter with him, DPR ordered a bunch, a lot, of fake ID's with his fucking face on every fake ID's (as is necessary) LE intercepted the package, Feds paid him a visit, he full on denied it 100%, not falling for the good cop, bad cop routine. They had nothing. W/O a confession confirming intent they had to make like a tree and leave.


[1 Points] Dopecitydopedopecity:

Not many people are cool with getting anything shipped to their house of all places, especially for bulk. And even fewer people will put up any amount of money up front. Why would they? You'd have to offer a way better price than they could get otherwise and not many drugs are cheaper on the dnm. You'd be limited to selling either mdma(only internationally which fuck that), counterfeit Xanax, lsd(this is the only option I can see people getting behind but unless you are in college people dont want acid. Hard drugs and weed are where the money is) and... Anything else? I can't think of any. Nothing common at least. Coke is stupid expensive, weed is too risky and not that much cheaper than irl for bulk, even in non medical states, dope is stupid expensive and not great quality. Meth would actually work in my state because of how expensive it is irl but there aren't many users and they suck as customers.


[0 Points] None:

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