[CommunityDiscussion]Pills intentionally sold as fake should be against the rules

I came across some fake oxy's containing fentanyl. The vendor advertises them as fake. The markings on the pill suggest that they are an oxycontin brand. This vendor is from Canada, and there have been several deaths in Canada because of products (heroin is one I read about) containing fentanyl, which is much more powerful than what the users were purchasing.

I think pills like this should be against the rules. I talked to two different moderators on evolution. They both agreed that they are dangerous, but refused to pull the listing down. Do you guys agree with me that such pills should be against [insert your favorite market]'s rules? I mean, who the fuck wants to buy home pressed pills and guess what's in them anyways? The only people who buy this shit are those dealers who want to kill their buyers. If you don't think these should be forbidden products, give your reasoning why.

EDIT: I feel like I need to clarify this a bit more, because I'm getting dumb responses from certain people. The pills are FAKE. I have no problem with fentanyl being sold, and I have no problem with oxycodone being sold. It's the fact that fentanyl has markings on the pill that say it is oxycodone. It is a far more powerful drug than oxy. These drugs will be bought by someone, who will then sell them as oxycodone, and inevitably kill someone. I have no fucking clue how anyone could possibly be okay with this. You go to your dealer.. he tells you he is selling oxy, but he gives you fentanyl instead. You're perfectly okay and fine with this?

EDIT 2: Here is one of the evolution's moderators response: "We morally disagree, but its not practical from a business point of view. They're not breaking any terms or conditions we've laid out. We have our hands full dealing with scammers and liars, let alone dealing with that as-well. You'll find the same attitude across all market staff on any market.

If we banned them, they'd just go to our competition. Same reason we allow carding, bitcoin stealing software, etc. Dog eat dog world mate unfortunately in this regard."

So in other words, they care more about money than people's safety...


Comments


[15 Points] DNMThrowawayyfoe:

Because this is the darknet. That's what you sign up for when you get on board. Having to interact with people that use it for bad reasons. But we can't go around striking down things we think are immoral, that's not how this works.


[6 Points] thisisbogus:

Should we also ban grass that looks like marijuana but actually contains chemicals? Because even though that's advertised as fake marijuana, people still think it's weed, or are misled. It has also caused several deaths.


[4 Points] None:

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[3 Points] None:

I don't think anyone will argue with your reasoning why they should be banned.

Ill explain why we won't ban the advertising of them here -- provided that they are marked as fakes.

We are anti-censorship and we don't believe it is our job to tell people what they should or should not do or buy or sell.

We leave it up to buyers to be ultimately responsible for what they buy and what they do it with.

Believe it - I agree it's a dirty trick since I do imagine a lot of people buying fake roxi are probably selling it as legit.

But we don't feel it's out place to start drawing lines like that.

Calling out vendors selling pills as legit and selling fakes will often end up in is Blacklisting them. But honestly advertising fake pills we community does a beautiful job of shaming them so we don't have many, if any, vendors advertising fakes here. They're always torn to shreds by our users.


[3 Points] air-line:

although in an ideal world id like to see them banned from sale on these sites there arises a couple problems.

if they are not allowed to sell then they might start selling them as real oxy in exit scams. the otehr problem is if not the big markets Evo and Agora they will eventually find a market that allows it.

so i agree it sux and people who sell bootleg phony pills as the real thing are scumbags but the reality of it is scumbags will always exist. so just look out for your self if your buying Oxy from a guy on the street and spread awareness that fake pills are out there and how to check them for obvious give away signs.


[2 Points] monoatomic:

I agree that counterfeit pills are more dangerous and bring more heat even than counterfeit money (which is rare anyway) and counterfeit designer goods (which never killed anyone).


[1 Points] tvgn9545:

if it can kill somebody, just fucking ban it. If it's more dangerous than markings suggest, ban it. who wants an innocent person to die just so a vendor can make some profit.


[1 Points] AllJoociedUP:

There are no rules here dude. NO CHILD PORN! The only real rule that matters and some of us (speaking for myself) take it upon ourselves to rid the 'real internet' and enforce our own rules. Other than that its a fucking free for all. Have fun. Play with yourself.


[1 Points] Oldwisewoman:

Meh, grey area. To be honest we don't know what's happening at the buyer end. We can only hope the buyer doesn't resell them and someone dies.. but such is the free market, right? Also, the DNM vendor ain't misleading the buyers. They're being honest and saying they're not really oxies. In fact, I've seen many oxy listings that say "these have NOTHING in them, just filler, but they look legit". Now let's put our thinking caps on. Why would someone by oxy lookalikes that have No oxy in them? To rip people off. Duh. But is that any of our business? We aren't the Drug Dealer Ethics Police. I would be more angry if they're marketed as oxies and don't contain oxy (or contain heroin/fent instead). Atleast the vendor is being honest. Who knows, maybe someone has some morally justified reason for wanting to buy oxies pressed with fentanyl. Maybe they have a terminally ill sibling who needs fentanyl, is allergic to oxy, but has a fetish for blue pills? We just can't (and shouldn't) go down that road of "right and wrong". It's a slippery slope and all that.


[1 Points] None:

who is the vendor? if you don't want to post, please PM me


[0 Points] C4000c:

I'd say the fake Oxys with fent aren't bad especially when the advertiser is saying they are fake and what is in them. Maybe move them from the oxy section if they are under there is the furthest I would go


[0 Points] lickcunt2:

your a clown bro you actually went as far to contact moderators because you dont agree with the durgs this guy is selling are you serious right now?


[-2 Points] noonehear:

Yes we need Drug Police... hahaha. If you ban one substance when does the banning stop?