LSD Dosage on the DNMs - Our Problem Child

I've been hoping for a massive discussion about the current state of DNM LSD and all these recent posts and their comments have kind of been scratching the surface of said discussion. I'd like to say some stuff which may be of interest to all you LSD connoisseurs out there.

Let us begin.

Veteran Acid Dropper's Bias

Some are saying that the LSD these days is shit compared to the LSD back in the day. I just want to emphasize that "back in the day", whenever that may be, your body was younger and your brain probably had fresher and more functional receptors. With that anatomical bias present, (legitimate) 100 ug today may not feel like the 100 ug back then. Has every DNM tab you've taken appeared to be underdosed? Or what if ALL the LSD today is underdosed? Be honest, is this likely? The only way we can currently assess the legitimacy of an advertised dose is if we try it ourselves - but we only actually try it after reading (biased) reports. If you seriously find that all DNM LSD is underdosed, I wouldn't be sure I'd believe you and it's not helping the cause. This needs to change. Stop living in the past, focus on the now; you need to calibrate your tripping scales and gauge the LSD to more recent experiences.

Random Error

One thing that we're going to have to consistently deal with is the occasional poorly-laid blotters. And by occasional, I mean on the occasion when a flipped quarter lands still on its side. Seriously, following a crystal-laying protocol shouldn't be that hard. I understand that DNM vendors may or may not be laying the blotters themselves, but if they are, it must absolutely be under control. Follow the procedure, black and white, clear as crystal. An error once in a while is understandable, but frequent bunk tabs are unacceptable. This affects OPSEC too; when a vendor acknowledges that their tabs are bunk, they may do a reship which doubles the risk of getting caught, not to mention a waste of money and time.

If the vendor is not doing the laying I'm not sure what can be done. Whoever is responsible for the laying needs to be informed.

Systematic Error

This is when you frequently see things like "these tabs aren't 250 ug, they're more like 150 to 200 ug." This is when the vendor is unaware of the actual dosage via a lying source, or when the vendor is greedy as fuck! What can be done here? Believe it or not, it is on the clients' side. A few months ago, there was a dude who was testing a few vendors' tabs using some form of spectroscopy to quantify the actual mass of the compounds found in the tabs. I have no idea where he went, but it would be great if we could get this going with a few donations from the community (if you've got the coin) for the community and the love of LSD (and profit, if that's your thing). Seriously, if you have access to such equipment or know someone who does, many of us would appreciate it if you could measure the microgram content of LSD in some tabs. This would completely polarize the shit vendors from the good vendors, with the added confidence of scientific evidence. It would also save some dude, who is used to dropping multiple underdosed tabs, from inadvertently dropping multiple accurately dosed and potent tabs; his mental health and (maybe) your tax money left unscathed.

With that said, I just want to be clear that I'm mainly focusing on the tabs which are getting tons of mixed reviews. I'm not sure about you, but Pimpits and the like are rather obvious and do not need lab testing. We're talking about the tabs which need an end-all-be-all, conclusive answer - no more months of dosage speculation of X vendor, we've had far too many posts like that on this sub (some of which I am guilty of). Sometimes LSD avengers and trip reports aren't enough.

The Bottom Line

We need vendors to try their best in laying their blotters. We also need to figure out ways to scientifically measure the dosage of tabs; but until then, we need people to attempt to be a little less egocentric with their reviews - reflect a little and try not to be biased.

Thanks, and sorry for such a huge read.

Note: I'm just talking about dosage here. For example, a tab is either 100 ug or it's not (for whatever factor). Moody buyers, pricing, and other things aren't of the main concern at the moment; hence, the title.


Comments


[16 Points] None:

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[10 Points] None:

Tabs "back in the day" wernt sold by the ug..either u took 1-2 and it worked and you got fuvked up or they were "bunk"

And the same 'ol tune was heard back then.. "The acid during the 70's was so much better man..I used to pay 50c a tab and we could split it 4 ways..now I have to take 2"..same song different decade :\


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[3 Points] None:

Wasn't there someone who made a thread saying that they were testing the dosage of tabs from every vendor about a month ago?


[2 Points] None:

LSD everywhere is underdosed sometimes, the ones back in the day were really 150-200 average if you had a good hookup, grams cost $7k, 20yr ago, now they are $15-21k, so maybe people shave off a bit. Another thing, is that LSD tolerance lasts a month, sure, you can trip hard 3 days later, a week later, two weeks is only about 80% there, so if you drop 2x200ug it will feel like 320 instead of 400. The lower dosed tabs are usually 25-100ug, it's not as exact as it should be, but at $20k a g, 25ug x 10000 doses makes a big difference, like 250mg so some dank hippie can sell 75ug tabs all day and keep a 1/4g of liquid for his heady friends who are more hippie than you. This is why the hippies fucked up the LSD scene, and why DNMs are helping in getting better doses out there. On SR1, some of the 100s were 20s. People bought em and the dose went up, I'd say the average is 75-80ug on DNM right now, highest average dose in 35 years!


[1 Points] AVBforPrez:

In another life I kit tested a decent chunk of the old sr1 vendor's stuff, and came away with a few interesting takeaways.

First, back in the day is irrelevant, don't compare things to long lost experiences.

Second, maybe 25% of the "popular" vendors failed the ehrlict (sp?) test. Mentioned it and nobody cared at the time.

Third, any use of "family, wow, fluff" etc is just for the same chumps that atf g13 bro.

75ug, if clean, will knock most socks off. I doubt anything higher than 150ug is out there, and rightly so.

Old tabs...cartoon Shiva = 60ug super clean. Purple Shiva = 130ug and is a face melter. Mayans were arguably the strongest, but weren't as clean as the shiny Shiva ones.


[2 Points] knowhatimsayin:

It would be nice of people would include the last time they tripped as well. Tolerance is a bitch!


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[1 Points] None:

How hard is it to test lsd tabs? Hell, I'd donate some bitcoin for someone to test all the vendor's acid.


[0 Points] ApricockApecot:

I feel like the price of LSD is a fucking ripoff in general. For how many dosages a single gram of the stuff makes, it's asinine to me that just because they feel it is appropriate to price a single dose at around $10.

In other words, I imagine a chemist would be rather smart to synthesize the stuff (and not even procure the crystal and lay it because that shit is still fucking overpriced) I would definitely sell at such retardedly low rates to just put everyone else to shame. Imagine if a chemist just synthesized a 20 g batch and began selling grams for like $1000 max and prices on down subsequently so the shit is nearly $1/hit. All other vendors would fail. I'm sure this is far from an impossibility, but still ridiculous that the prices are the way they are.


[0 Points] None:

Be happy we can still get this wonderful chemical and stop bitching!!! This isnt the 80's anymore where a tab was $1 and a pack of baseball cards was a quarter....


[-4 Points] None:

I miss the LSD-Avengers. Now every other post on this sub seems to be about LSD. Can mods perhaps make another subreddit related like /r/darknetmarketsLSD

EDIT: Whoever keeps downvoting me PM me as you obviously have some issues with me. This is a legit informative post yet downvoted. Grow a sack of balls and PM ME.