StealthBomber MDMA cut w/ amphetamine?

To start this off, everyone will be calling me a fucking idiot, and I don't really care for that matter. Now that that's out of the way, I ordered 10g of MDMA, capped it up, and let it go. I initially tested the product myself (without a test kit, I know, I'm a fucking idiot), and couldn't see ANY differences between locally pure MDMA that I've had. Really clean comedown, minimal teeth grinding, and I was able to sleep afterwards. I've had methylone and other cut shit before, and typically my jaw feels like its broken the next day and I can't sleep at all. Today a customer came to me saying she got drug tested by her parents and MDMA & amphetamine came up. I was with her the whole night she was rolling, and she didn't take any other substances, and she's a long time friend and isn't one to lie. She wasn't even mad, she was just letting me know that that's what came up in the test and I was surprised. I have had nothing but good feedback with the entire batch and it's all gone. Has anyone else had this kind of response to his MDMA?? I ordered Jan.22 and got it about 2 weeks ago.

Thanks in advance, and yes I know, I am a fucking idiot for not using a test kit.


Comments


[38 Points] RobotTits:

You trying to tell me MDMA has amphetamines in it? Get outta town.


[11 Points] None:

MDMA (contracted from 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA

Anyways, from what I have read, most drug panels don't test for specific amphetamines, just the presence of them in general. Longer explanation (not mine) below

Here is a good article about MDMA metabolites: https://drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ma+metabolites

It lists: three of its main metabolites, 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA), 4-hydroxy-3-methoxyamphetamine (HMA), and 4-hydroxy-3-methoxymethamphetamine (HMMA)

Basically, because a lot of commonly abused drugs have specific metabolites, most urine tests test for their presence and the presence of the original drug. There is a cutoff concentration of I believe 1000 nanograms/l. If tests just tested for the chemical in question then no one would ever get caught. The longer the half lives of a drug's main metabolites, the longer the metabolites stay in the system. That is why some drugs can be detected only a few hours after, and some a few weeks.

From what I understand, most urine tests work like this: The urine is separated into two portions. On the first portion, an immunoassay is done. Since biologically speaking, all drugs are foreign bodies, our bodies produce antibodies for them (and correspondingly their metabolites, I believe only if they are active?) the first time we ingest them. I believe the immunoassay introduces antibodies for e.g. opioids/ metabolites, amphetamines/metabolites, etc. to the urine. Concentrations can then be detected using a variety of techniques. If the test is positive, GC/MS (Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrum, a more advanced, accurate, and expensive technique for determining the presence and structure of molecules) is performed on the other portion of urine to confirm the results of the immunoassay.

I believe that the fact that e.g. MDMA and amphetamine are similar in structure means that so are their metabolites, so the antibodies introduced in the immunoassay react with the metabolites of both drugs or because their structure is similar, a lot of drugs share common metabolites.

As far as meth vs amphetamine, methamphetamine's main metabolite is amphetamine, and therefore once it is metabolized to amphetamine it will break down the same way that amphetamine does and they will both test positive.

Structure is important in metabolism. Similar molecules will be metabolized similarly. I believe that MDxx chemicals, and for that matter many structurally-related opioids, etc. have similar if not some of the exact same metabolites, hence why urine tests usually test for classes of drugs rather than MDMA vs MDEA.

The most common test, the 5-panel or something like that tests for major classes. I imagine there are specific tests that can be done to differentiate among substances in a class if the tester is so inclined.

Anyway, I would say a general guideline for MDMA detection is about 3 days, give or take. MDMA is water soluble so exercise, overhydration, etc. can speed up excretion. There are a ton of factors which affect metabolism so no one can really say exactly how long a drug will every stay in the system.


[7 Points] None:

Even pure MDMA can show up as an amphetamine on drug test because of the way it metabolizes in the body and the fact that it itself is a substituted amphetamine.


[6 Points] BVNoShow1:

Lolol, it's funny how many people are ignorant to the fact that MDMA is an amphetamine, specifically a derivative of methamphetamine, I wonder how all the ravers and partiers would feel if you told them you're just giving them a chemical cousin of meth


[4 Points] PsychedelicTangerine:

MDMA triggers amphetamines.... 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine


[3 Points] durgsrbad:

Ultimately, this is the spoils of battle in the War on Drugs. The lack of education is that fucking pronounced it becomes a better option to ask drug buyers on a 'hush-hush' forum in a post that would have taken Google a hundredth of the time with better information.


[3 Points] None:

3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine


[2 Points] poboxpox:

I'd have to do a little more googling but from what I remember, in an at home drug test MDMA may trigger amphetamine, doesn't necessarily mean it's in there. Except since hers actually tested for MDMA idk. But I could be completely wrong.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] 1ugly:

wait...did you laugh afterwords?


[2 Points] MySweetUsername:

Some people have to learn the hard way.


[1 Points] SgtFaecesProcessor:

Find a lab testing facility and send a sample in. That's all I can recommend.


[1 Points] DNMd:

lol. She tested positive for Amphetamines because MDMA tests positive as amphetamine in a urine analysis. It is an amphetamine after all.

I doubt your MDMA was cut.


[1 Points] dnmthrowawayyyyy:

Smh, there should be some sort of intelligence test to pass before being allowed to buy on the DNMs.

Who would have thunk MDMA would have amphetamines in it?


[1 Points] None:

RLY....