A Community market

I launched Apple market a few days back to wide condemnation form the community on my 7% commission stance.(I will review it in the following days).

But while I was thinking of a way to make Apple Market unique I came up with the idea of a Community Market where users have the powers to perform certain administrative actions normally reserved for market admins.

And before I put down any code, i decided to run it through the darknet Community and see if they find it innovative. I want open and collaborative innovation on this, so everyone is welcome to contribute.

Apple Market will be a community run by it's users and not just market owners alone. Vendors will be the market admins and users will have power to perform certain administrative actions.

  1. Users will vote to ban and suspend vendors.

  2. Users will respond to support tickets.

  3. Users will vote to resolve disputes.

Apple Market will be a democratic market with a higher level of involvement by the community unlike current markets. Of course there will be rules guiding the following actions. And here are the rules.

Rules for Voting to Suspend a vendor.

  1. User will need to have at least one successful order form a vendor in order to open a poll on suspending that vendor.

  2. User will need to have made one successful order to vote on suspending a vendor.

  3. The Poll will be open for Seven Days.

  4. At the end of Seven Days 60% of votes has to be in favor of Suspending the vendor in order for Him/Her to be suspended.

Rules for responding to Support Tickets.

  1. Users need at least one successful order to respond to a support ticket.

  2. If Users can't handle the ticket, they can move it up the chain to vendor admins and market admins.

Rules for Users voting to resolve disputes.

  1. To Put an order in dispute you need to cancel it after the vendor has Accepted it.

  2. Dispute Votes will be open for seven days.

  3. After the dispute is open. Vendor and User get a chance to make their case to the public.

  4. At the end of the seven days voting period. The User with more than a 50% vote in his/her favor will have the funds transferred to him/her.

In addition to this, there will be a no Doxxing rule. Anyone who Doxxes somebody will be banned.

EDIT: We Have this discussion up on our subreddit so you can check it out and contribute there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyAppleMarket/comments/46qc1f/community_market/


Comments


[3 Points] crakbenz:

The one big problem about the community getting a say in anything is theres always going to be people that do things to sway in their favour and manipulate things such as the voting to ban vendors, a competitor vendor could bot votes or manually create account to fill in votes and so on, making it so they need 1 successful order could easily be achieved with bunk listings and the vendor buying from himself to validate the accounts, the same goes for the disputes and tickets, theres a reason no one has done this before because it is too volatile and too much to go wrong.


[3 Points] crakbenz:

I am high, bare with me if this doesn't make much sense.

It is a nice idea don't get me wrong, but I think this would work much better:

Have the community make suggestions for the market to be implemented, those suggestions go through a round 1 voting phase and then 3 of the top voted suggestions are picked, then a finals phase where people can vote from their accounts and those accounts require 1 successful transaction in order to be able to cast a vote, then the winning choice of the top 3 are then implemented to the site, and this happens every month.

Rather then the community ruling the site I think that the community should just be heard out and have their suggestions implemented from a popular vote, at least then if people do try to bot it they don't personally gain from it and the only difference it makes is a feature being added to the site.


[1 Points] ShitQuantikSays:

This sounds dope.


[1 Points] FuckTheJakes:

I like this besides the high commission. Maybe implement some kind of upvote/downvote system or something like AB's trust levels for members who have a say. One order is too low, considering some orders can be as low as a dollar or 50 cents when it comes to digital guides. Maybe have it based on their actions in the community or having them reach a higher order/ dollar amount spent. Good ideas though I would give the market a try, I've been wanting to make myself a figure in the DNM's because I truly love this world and think its beautiful even with all the scammers. This seems like something Ross would have had in mind.


[1 Points] toesknowz:

Just spit-balling: create a kind of "voter weight" which is determined by the amount the user has spent on the market place.

You could use this variable to create a simple system where the people who are paying the most into the market get a more substantial say than those who have spent less. The total amount of weight could be capped to prevent abuse at high levels.


[1 Points] None:

Its been said multiple times in this thread that this voting feature could be abused by vendors in their favor so I think some algorithm must be made in order to gauge the weight of a vote from a given user.

something like:

userVoteWeight=(total $ spent) x (# of vendors used) + # of days user has logged on the market or # of days/months/years account has existed.

This way active users of the market in both presence and spending are considered. It would also be very hard to manipulate do to needing to log in daily or having an account for a long time. Any user found to be manipulating votes can be banned. Also by weighing users of multiple vendors higher we allow more experienced buyers to be making decisions.

Theres a couple other ideas I have for this, but I really like where you're going with this and I think its a great idea.


[1 Points] obsidianchao:

Problem: why would the community bother? Why should I solve support tickets for you, or research vendor scams, or any of the work without the darknet salary?


[1 Points] None:

There definitely could be some flaws, but this is one of the best plans for a DNM i've ever heard. Please actually program this, i'm sure some people like me would be willing to test it before it goes public.

If you can get this working nicely you could have the potential to be one of the largest markets.


[1 Points] cgtruski:

You have way too much faith in humanity.


[1 Points] DNWeed:

Make it so you can only start a suspension vote or vote in it if you have at least 1 order with that particular vendor. So that way votes cant be swayed by competitor without paying a lot of money to the vendor.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] Axaq:

Good on you for thinking fresh and new. This has so many issues involved that you don't seem to have considered though.

Main ones being:

Stick to not writing this code, good ideas in theory and some could work out, but you're trying to be too different to win over naive members of the community who don't fully understand what protocols should be carried out with a market to protect users and run fair business.

You were shot down because of your approach mainly, get in touch with people who can advice you better and help you get further in your endeavours. Contact me if you need a hook up, you need to put safety and quality first. This will all end up in tears and anal cavity exploration otherwise.


[1 Points] gummo476:

I really like your Idea. I like the idea of a council. I just think there should be an impartial leader of the council to keep an out for collusion among the members. I think the leader should only serve for one term however long that might be.


[1 Points] gummo476:

meant to say eye out


[1 Points] irclyna:

I'm a bit sick and don't feel like writing out a huge explanation yet, but I believe that it would be possible to create a non-centralized market run by the community and a few upper admins, with most of the power being held in the hands of the Trusted Users.