Nice try, Mr. Super Mario, (aka, MSM!) but your fake meth isn't fooling anyone

So, I noticed that the vendor "Mr. Super Mario" claimed that his product was 93% pure. Since the typical product that's been available in the US has been more like 10-20% methamphetamine, I thought this was interesting. He also claimed to be getting his product directly from Mexico. Of course, the Mexicans have been shipping cut-to-shit dope since last winter, so this intrigued me. Had they finally stopped screwing around and gotten serious? Mr. Super Mario had two certificates of analysis that claimed that, in fact, they had! I had a look at them, and they did seem to check out. Except for the minor issue that they were both dated March 2016. Well, no shit, everyone was selling good product in 2016! What about a certificate for the stuff being sold mid-2017? I'd sure like to see what one of those would say!

Even though his initials would suggest that his product is cut with methylsulfonylmethane, it's almost certainly actually cut with n-isopropylbenzylamine, since that's been the Mexican cartels' adulterant of choice.

If you think you got fake dope, or heavily cut dope, melt some in a tube in hot oil and measure the temperature with a glass thermometer. It should be all melted below 200C. Then take it off the heat and keep an eye on the temperature as it cools. Real meth will start to solidify between 170 and 175 degrees C, and will only change temperature a degree or two before it finishes solidifying. Heavily cut bullshit, on the other hand, will start to solidify at a lower temperature, and will change temperature A LOT while it's solidifying. This difference between how pure substances and mixtures solidify is what's responsible for "crackback" patterns.

edit: More info on how to do a melting point test and how it works

Unfortunately, pure bullshit will have good-looking crackback patterns and will test as a pure substance too, so it would be good to also test with the Marquis test. However, I have not verified any pure bullshit being sold on the darknet to date, although TheSaltonSea on Dream came pretty fucking close. It's all just been heavily cut with n-iso, at least the stuff that's coming out of Mexico.


Comments


[39 Points] Josheppi:

Heisenberg?


[34 Points] drimilr:

10-20% purity in the states now?? I guess that explains it so fucking cheap for a ball nowadays.


[18 Points] TrippleIntegralMeme:

Bring back meth production jobs to America!


[8 Points] None:

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[6 Points] kookieless:

Is n-isopropylbenzylamine soluble in acetone. Acetone washing has always been my go to way to cleaning stims.


[2 Points] Sufreme:

Thought US had the best shit, now european speed paste doesn’t sound so shitty in regards to purity after all. The speed I get is probably just 10-20% anyway but still, now I don’t feel so bad about never having had crystal. It would be nice to be able to smoke though.


[2 Points] 4-MAR:

melt some in a tube in hot oil and

Could you be slightly more specific? What type of oil? Am I getting this right?

Melt (with heat from what source?) some ["meth" product] in a tube (what kind of tube? A test tube? Some other kind?) of hot oil (what kind of oil?).

measure the temperature with a glass thermometer

That part I think I understand. Stick a glass thermometer in this hot oil wit the meth "melted" into it?

I'm not trying to be dense. I'm genuinely curious about this procedure.


[2 Points] zombilives:

im totally with HeisenbergSpecial


[1 Points] mrfloridamolly99:

MrSuperMario abbreviated as MSM which is also a popular meth cutting agent. Guy looked sheisty from the start


[1 Points] None:

So I should stick to cocaine right? Lol


[1 Points] alfabi:

Many substances doesn't resolidify immediately after they melted by heat on slight cooler temperature. Don't take anybody word who claim it is, but verify yourself! You fail without really knowing with valid testing and results. Melting point proven method is superior and gives conclusive result about purity (every lab uses it for that very reason and that is why MP is noted in chemical properties technical sheet). Checking melting point about purity is for solid substance while boiling point for liquids(sovents or solutions). MP testing is a simple inexpensive method what can be meassured with household hotplate with better thermostat and digital or glass termomether and must be meassured properly any everybody can do it (check online how to run it). This crackback is non-scientific unerified with a lot of problems and non conclusive result. If the question is:is the substance pure or not, then melting point check is your method to find out. You won't find anything new with this crackback. Only no- chemist would be interessed into it. A lot of hear-say "theory" and online forum reading and none of actual chemistry practise and actual experiments. Have you ever seen or read how chemist observe re-solidifying substance or crackback patterns when they want to verify their substance purity? NO! They use simple inexpensive melting point testing!


[1 Points] cheetahg0fast:

if you guys want real deal glass grade crystal meth just hit me up. this shit is the real deal and ive been on many markets


[-6 Points] stuffguyman:

Why are you buying meth?