How did you hear about the DNMs?

Recently there was a documentary in the UK about DNMs, and allot of people over at r/DNMUK have been worrying that this kind of media attention is a bad thing and going to increase police awareness, even though major stories have like this been running for years. It seems every time a media outlet like Vice etc. post an article/ documentary people worry that our little secret is going to be let out, and attracting more people to the darknets is a bad thing. Its time we come to terms with the fact the cat is well and truly out of the bag and embrace more users on the dnms.

So with that in mind I'd like to know how people heard of the DNMs in the first place, as I'd bet many of us are here because we heard about it in mainstream media.


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[11 Points] VibinInTheDNMs:

Found out about it on here I think. When I was like 14-15 years old... Now as a young kid just starting highschool I never used the DNMs back then as I didn't think I would be able to understand everything necessary to use it safely and I didn't really get into pushing drugs in general until I was 17. They aren't that hard to find out about. I was just a kid really interested in tech who also was interested in cannabis and learning about most drugs in general.

All articles and publicity are going to do (IMO) is create more low hanging fruit from people who see the article and just rush into using the DNMs thinking it's something very easy to do and not taking the time to research and develope proper OPSEC. Which then gives more of those easier targets for LE which may actually make us slightly safer.


[7 Points] None:

I found out about SR1 from Wired Magazine about five years ago. Wired Magazine did a write up on this incredible phenomenon called the Dark Net. The article described how to download the TOR Browser Bundle, buy bitcoins, and provided a link that would link you to the SR1 onion. I was on that bitch buying drugs within 24 hours. That was when bitcoins were about $3 a pop. Sure wish I would have stocked up then. Point is, a lot of people know about the DNMs but most people don't use drugs. And out of the people who use drugs irl, most of them are too desperate or stupid to learn how to cop online. So I guess in one sense it is still an "exclusive club" that anyone can join but only the true Freedom Fighters actually avail themselves of this wondrous and magical place where, like Zombo.com, anything is possible and the only limitation is your own mind.


[7 Points] yayhooraythrowawayy:

Heard about bitcoin when i was 14. Found out about the Silk Road shortly after. I biked to the closest bank I could do a direct deposit on LBC, tumbled my coins and sent them to SR. 1 week later a gram of MDPV arrives at my door and my 14 year old self tweaks the fuck out on that shit. The legacy began there.


[6 Points] piddlewidgeon:

altoid's post on the shroomery


[6 Points] ForLol_Serious:

The DNM's aren't that secret anymore. Even my psychiatrist knows about it.


[6 Points] Thoughtsofamaniac:

Zoklet BLTC forum

But I do see the point when people get pissed about the magazine articles and news pieces and shit like that. Whether you realize it or not, that kind of publicity does bring a lot of negative attention. There are quite a few norms out there who know about it, but just as many if not more who see each and every article coming out about it and react in shock. "OH NO, KIDS CAN BUY DRUGS OFF THE INTERNET!" The media is frequently used as a fearmongering tool of the powers that be so they can get results they want. Several of the more recent RC bans have only really come around after it was published in the news that people could order synthetic drugs from the internet (THE HORROR!)

I even had a fucked up convo about it when visiting with family over Thanksgiving. My mom had read some shitty scare article on a stupid website talking about "flakka". She asked me straight up "_____, you're not involved with this "darknet" thing are you? I read that people are actually ordering some kind of synthetic meth off of there! You need to stay off there!" Like what the actual fuck. i don't even use flakka but I couldn't help but laugh and at the same time cringe because if this shit is becoming widely enough known that people like her know it, it's getting way too much notoriety.


[2 Points] None:

People are just angry about the only thing that made them "different" and "special" in their lives is gone now


[2 Points] murderhomelesspeople:

Well I always use to buy weed off clear net sites for the longest time, the quality was amazing but it was so expensive. I was talking to a very close friend abut this and he asked why I didn't get of the dark net.

"wat"

"Yeah the dark net, you buy with bitcoin and access it using tor, you can get anything".

"WHAT????".

Fast forward a month and we've made our first purchase and started up my first drug ring. It's been a love affair ever since :)


[2 Points] CognitiveDissident7:

On NPR


[1 Points] ag0risthooawayyfoe:

I can't really remember, probably /r/anarcho_capitalism or /r/bitcoin

But I agree, people act like they're a special snowflake for using the dnm, but in my social circles it seems like the majority of people have at least heard of it. The DPR bust was very mainstream news. Also imo there is strength in numbers, we should want more people to use the dnm, it makes it harder for LE.


[1 Points] Theeconomist1:

Years ago there was an article about drug dealing in Instagram. I went over there and found some shit but it looked sketch as hell. I PMed one guy who was trying to buy as well and the fool kept getting scammed. But he kept trying. Then someone commented on a pic and pointed to this sub. I came here and the rest is history. Never left.


[1 Points] CuntMaster16:

Everyone knows the DNMs exist, the thing is the only reason it has been around as long as they have is because of the anonymity. I learned what I know from a friend. The more users, the higher the risk. Especially since now that more people are on the markets due to these outside sources won't have the same securities, leading to more scams, hscking, stealing. Not to mention that more volume of seized packages means this gets a higher priority from the LE. For more customers to be a viable option security would need to be upped exponentially, and vendors would have to double down on stealth.


[1 Points] ketaminesucks:

My broider showed me Alphabay


[1 Points] None:

I joined Reddit for, of all things, r/ADHD originally.

Forget how I found this sub ultimately, which is funny given how life changing it was; before, I had had to use "IRL vendors"/"Dr. Vendors".


[1 Points] thepusha23d:

That movie "Dope"


[1 Points] infiniter1ver:

funny story... I got an email from one of the IT guys at work because they do network auditing and my workstation got flagged for possible Tor traffic. It ended up being a false alarm but at that time I had no idea what a tor was... so I googled it that weekend. It was a lightbulb moment.


[1 Points] monoatomic:

Read about SR and didn't think much of it, then I heard about the SR2 bust and found this place and loads of people saying of course SR2 got busted, lol and posting pics and reviews of successful purchases from Agora and Evo.


[1 Points] justaniceyoungman:

Drugs Inc. lol


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] vendor___question:

maybe 4-5 years ago my meth hookup ripped me off bigtime. nobody else had quality that could compare. I was cold copping off random people, just trying to get somethign worth smoking. scored off craigslist a few times even.

I dont know how it hadn't occured to me to use DNM, as I had used them some years previoulsy (On SR1) to get DMT. that time a friend who was into techy shit did it all for us. a year or so later I remember I threw in like $100 on a group order of ketamine, but the person tasked with sourcing the coins dropped the ball and we got ripped off.

my first solo purchase was an oz of meth. I remember it didnt have any mylar, didnt have a vac seal. was just in multiple ziplocs, then wrapped in paper envelope in a priority envelope. I was pretty surprised at how poorly done it was, but hey it arrived and was better quality than what I was getting locally. then I got high as fuck, and the rest is history.

these days I only vend products sourced locally, but sometimes a product will catch my eye and I will buy it.


[1 Points] tjelectric:

A techie friend on Facebook who is also a privacy freak posted an article lamenting the downfall of SR1 and Ross. I'd been involuntarily detoxing that am and thought, "damn, just finding out about this now, when it's too late" did a little googling and boom, found SR2, had an order arrive within a week


[1 Points] tjelectric:

This secret is not little and has not been for some time...these concerns remind me of the Fight Club rule everyone always breaks but, in Fight Club at least, that tension of knowing it is a rule yet feeling compelled to break it is exactly the point. ...I mean I get that exposure could be risky but no exposure would mean less business for vendors...it's a tricky issue. On the whole, I am grateful to the more sane news outlets who are just informing the public but resent those who act like the mere existence of the darknet is turning schools into dens of iniquity (as if they hadn't already been that for years!)