Muriatic Acid is not identical to Hydrochloric Acid and will create yellow tinged cocaine AKA yellow snow

it is amazing to me that there exists a subset of festering angry, unhappy posters in this sub who are unable to discuss a post but instead have to lash out calling me stupid for saying that Muriatic Acid causes yellow coke and lower crystallization.

Well, you know who you are and you are rude and you are wrong. So learn something new:

Both muriatic acid and hydrochloric acid have the same chemical formula (HCl) causing many people to think both of these acids are similar, but there is a difference between them. Though both acids contain HCl, when we consider the purity of two acids, hydrochloric acid is the pure form and muriatic acid contains impurities. It is a version of hydrochloric acid with lower purity. In past days, muriatic acid was another name for hydrochloric acid.

What is Hydrochloric Acid? Hydrochloric acid (HCl) is a toxic and corrosive liquid, which is widely used as a chemical. Its reactivity is very high. Hydrochloric acid reacts rapidly with metals that are commonly used in industrial applications. It is corrosive to the skin and mucous membranes, causing severe burns if it touches any part of the body. Therefore, hydrochloric acid must be carefully handled and stored, with this hazard in mind. The hydrochloric acid reacts rapidly with water, results in boiling or splattering. Therefore, when diluting hydrochloric acid, water should be added to the acid carefully, but not the other way (adding acid to water).

HCl is used in producing plastics (PVC), chemicals, and medicines and illegal drugs like cocaine. Hydrochloric acid is also used in the food industry. It is a very important chemical in laboratories.

What is Muriatic Acid? The chemical formula for muriatic acid is also HCl. Hydrochloric acid can be produced in random purities depending on the purpose they are used for. When it is produced as a chemical reagent, it is very pure and called is called hydrochloric acid. Muriatic acid is produced by distilling acid and salt. The purity of muriatic acid is less compared to original hydrochloric acid.

Same as the other acids, muriatic acid has so many industrial usages. It is mostly used as a cleaning agent for swimming pools and to clean tiles, metals and bricks. In industrial scale, it is used to produce papers, plastics and detergents. It can be used to adjust pH levels or to neutralize the alkalinity in paints or sealers. In cocaine production it is often subsituted for the purer hydrochloric acid but this subsitution results in a yellow tinge to the cocaine because of the iron content in the muriatic acid. It also is not as effecient for crystallizaiton procedures.

What is the difference between Muriatic Acid and Hydrochloric Acid?

• Color: • Hydrochloric acid is very clear and "water white" in color.

• Muriatic acid is yellow in color due to the presence of impurities such as traces of iron.

• Composition: • Hydrochloric acid contains only HCl and it is very pure.

• Muriatic acid largely contains HCl, but some other impurities are also there. For example, a little amount of H2SO4 and traces of iron can also be present in muriatic acid.

• Purity: • Hydrochloric acid is the technical grade of the HCL product with no impurities.

• Muriatic acid is a less pure or industrial grade version of hydrochloric acid.

• Baume Rating: • Hydrochloric acid has a high Baume rating (the extent of impurities).

• Muriatic acid has a lower Baume rating.

• Usage: • Hydrochloric acid is mostly used in chemical laboratories for analytical purposes.

• Muriatic acid is used for industrial grade applications such as cleaning.


Comments


[51 Points] IndependentTackle:

Therefore, when diluting hydrochloric acid, water should be added to the acid carefully, but not the other way (adding acid to water).

I'm sorry, this particular part is bullshit. Haven't read entire post, and stopped at the above sentence, and won't comment on anything else but that sentence. Chemistry graduate here. (not like it changes anything, this is really more common sense than university knowledge) You should always pour acid TO water, not the other way around. Acid has higher density, and if you poured water into acid, water would create a layer on top of the acid, not mixing with it like it would if you put acid into water. What happens on that layer is, water gets immediately heated to the boiling point, and starts squirting around (hot, boiling water, combined together with acid particles - better fuckin run...). So remember, ALWAYS pour acid to water, and do it slowly, not the other way around


[17 Points] FruityFestival:

As enjoyable as all of your cocaine reviews have been, every time you make a post or comment like this all the information isn’t yours and you take credit like you’re the mastermind behind it.

Here’s the article you stole to make this post all you did was copy and paste with minor effort in edits.

This entire comment is from This article published in 2007

Stop stealing information from others and trying to pass it on as your own, all it takes is a simple google search to see the information is stolen. Keep to the reviews.

Edit: link typo


[16 Points] MoribundTyke:

The hydrochloric acid reacts rapidly with water, results in boiling or splattering. Therefore, when diluting hydrochloric acid, water should be added to the acid carefully, but not the other way (adding acid to water).

Err, you may want to rethink this one...


[6 Points] Babyarmcharles:

I've enjoyed these recent posts that get into the science of coke, every enjoyable to learn


[4 Points] alfabi:

Muriatic" means "pertaining to brine or salt". Hydrochloric acid has many names, muriatic is just one of them. Lower grade (tehnical) or lab grade does not change a names of hydrochloric acid or formula. However, if someone want to call it muriatic over hydrochloric acid, be my guest. This muriatic acid name is used by ordinary people who buys acid in the US paint shop for household cleaning or other application and they are common to know hcl as muriatic acid. Such acid for household application have only specific concentration (%). However, chemist or drug manufacturer are different then ordinary people and they know what is a name for HCL - hydrochloric acid what has different purity grades and variaty of HCL concentration (%).
(op dig up this stupid comparasion from some stupid article on internet how muriatic acid is only for tehnical industrial use, but hydrochloric acid is lab grade for chemistry!?? For what purpose is hydronium chloride then,lol? Or chlorohydric acid? Or any other names for HCL?
Op, if you was not aware, there is tehnical lower grade hydrochloric acid as well!
OP, are you aware how chemicals have grades based on their purity what point for their suitable purpose? But that does not mean it changes chemical name, or you think it does. If you do, then sorry, but you are wrong, again.
Iam from EU though and we have one name for hydrochloric acid (literal translation on my country language) or use chemical formula, difference is only acid concentration and purity grade. OP seems to be from US and he base everything to his scope of world. Well, just because muriatic acid tehnical with specific concentration from US paint shops are common name used in the US for household applications, does not mean rest of the world use that name in paint shops as well.
If you need to clean hydrochloric acid (or any other name for HCl) just distillate it in order to purify, problem solved. Nobody in coke manufacture or who purify would in right mind use very impure hydrocloric acid and as last resort he can always distillate acid in order to purify. I bought hydrochloric acid 19% in the paint shop or normal grocery shop many times, clear coroless liquid like water and use it many times in chemistry work. I have even evaporated it and it did not left any residue. Finally, if I need lab grade hydrochloric acid I would buy it or distillied this tehnical hydrochloric acid.

If you use chemicals of lower purity grade there is possibility to cause impurity in drug. Whatever hydrochloric acid, muriatic acid, chlorohidric acid, hydronium chloride of lower purity grade can cause impurity in end product, equivalent name of chemical does not matter, purity grade does. Nobody claimed otherwise! However, yellow taint on cocaine (and some other drugs) are caused due oxydation, alkaloids amines oxydize easily. Eventual impurity from lower grade chemicals are usually removed on first step purification. No drug is pure immediatelly after synthesis or final conversion from base to hydrochloride. It usually involve additional purification step after said conversion. Beside, just because you use tehnical grade hydrochloric acid, does not mean impurities will remain in solidified cocaine hydrochloride. Like I said, I have evaporated tehnical HCl acid from pain shop and it did not leave any residue - all evaporated.

You think how big cocaine manufactures are not capable to distillate hydrochloric acid if necessary or even make pure HCL gas generator for cocaine base to hydrochloride conversion? Pure HCL is an gas while aqueous acid is HCL dissolved in the water at diffetent concentrations. They can do that, I assure you.

Yellow color taint of cocaine is usualy caused by oxydation because alkaloids amines oxydize easy, not because of hydrochloric acid. Beside, solvent washing or crystalisation with activated carbon would remove it.

Conversion of cocaine base to hydrochloride is not crystalisation! Crystalisation is different process then base to hydrochloride salt conversion. You can make solvent crystalisation anytime with cocaine hydrochloride what does not involve chemical reaction as conversion of coke base to coke hydrochloride does.
For 100% conversion cocaine base to salt you need to have at least equimolar amount of hydrochloric acid. Matter of calculation of needed chemical and not like you claim how less percentage acid affect crystalisation conversion cocaine base to hydrochloride. (OP continue to use crystalisation what is wrong term and mean another process, instead base to salt conversion).

OP, you have much more to learn, but more important, start to accept how sometime you are wrong and need to re-evalute knowledge what seems to be based mostly on sources over internet (forum,reddit,boards) with questionable validity. That is a wrong way to learn. If OP makes big deal and write threads about it over this trivial thing, I wonder what he would do if there is an biger more complicated what matter issue. In his reviews he made more false claims where he does not have anything to say, so he choose to write about meaningless muriatic acid.


[1 Points] swolemedic:

IME muriatic acid can range a bit the few times I've bought it in stores, it can get kinda yellow depending on the brand, but I also wonder if there's any reaction between the HCl and any impurities/cuts that could result in coloring. I guess if you have freshly made HCl solution vs muriatic you can try to compare the two, but with street coke I don't trust the muriatic acid being the only culprit of the color change unless you've done a controlled test of this


[1 Points] kellik123:

Would this also apply to for example Amphetamine? It's almost always some shade of yellow to orange


[1 Points] Green_TeaRoll:

Fun fact: Your skin will sort of 'shield' the acid for a bit(depending on purity of course), but it will enter under your skin through the hair follicles and slowly eat outwards.

Ask me how I know this


[1 Points] drimilr:

I like your posts man. Lots of great content. Keep it up! You should have enough coke to keep it up for another week or so.


[1 Points] Cocinacowboy:

Idiot


[1 Points] MandyThatGirl:

My dawgs produce allot of yellow snow

Where dey at??

Woof Woof!


[1 Points] Dnmbuttshit:

Sure, it's a "corrosive" acid that can damage tissue. Can it stick around in the coke? Is there a way to neutralize it? Maybe liquify the coke and add something to it?


[0 Points] MotoMoto98:

Hydrochloric acid is a gas moron. Muriatic acid is just the name given to water with HCl in it which ranges in HCl content from 7% to 30% (the rest being water). The only impurities in muriatic acid are going to be in the water that contains the gas and not the gas itself. These impurities will be highly negligible and will be mostly salt and other minute dissolved solids you would find in other water. If you want pure HCl GAS from liquid muriatic acid (HCl in water) then you merely heat the water to liberate the gas or add a dehydrogenation agent that absorbs the water and releases the gas.... OP might wanna hit up Wkipedia or anywhere on the internet before attempting to educate said internet.


[-4 Points] TreyWait:

H2S04 is sulfuric acid. Sulfur, that would explain the yellow color.


[-3 Points] RedSteppa:

Good post.