This is the real question everybody should be asking themselves...

Now that Agora is down, would it be a wiser decision to transfer to another market or do direct email deals?. This goes for both, buyers and sellers.

If you say direct email deals, explain why.

If you say another market, explain why.

ALSO, whichever you say, explain which of the 2 would be safer/better OPSEC for both the buyer and the seller perspectives!

Think deep about it before replying.


Comments


[10 Points] None:

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[3 Points] young_k:

Even with agora up, i tend to migrate to direct deals after 1 or 2 deals with a vendor if they are up for it. Most vendors I do this with I require they have a chat client of some sort, as emailing someone just doesnt seem as communicative, and sending off an email, and then sending my money to an address, and just hoping i get an email back really doesnt make me feel so secure. Not that i'm less likely to get scammed, but its a peace of mind thing. In the midst of a conversation with a vendor, I send the money, and continue a chat, then after a few minutes, go our seperate ways. I see them on daily, I can ask for tracking if they offer it, or ask them to check for me if they're willing. Just alot more seemless with chat then email...

I have never done a direct email deal...It's like having escrow on a private onion site....leaves you with a uneasy feeling in your stomach. Or like the old days where i wu'd money to argentina for blister packs of bars...who knows if you get your pack or not...just sit back and pray.


[2 Points] None:

there is only one vendor I do straight wallet to wallet deals with. even then, the second I send my coin, the thoughts of getting burned start running through my head. yet to happen, but I suspect it will someday. I also buy from another vendor's private site, which is not really any more secure than a wallet to wallet deal. unless vendor's start offering massive price breaks for wallet to wallet, I am in no rush to make the change.

I will probably just make my purchases off Nuceleus for the time being. even a FE purchase on a market has more recourse than a wallet to wallet order. not to mention that reviews can be posted if the vendor rips you off.


[2 Points] n_l_i_s_s:

Direct deals are a great way to get scammed


[2 Points] hdheuud:

I didn't like using markets in the first place. Now I won't at all


[2 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

The question you should be asking yourself is.... did i fire 6 bullets, or did I fire only 5?

Well, are you feeling lucky?

Punk

Seriously though, I will do both.

Nearly all of my business is conducted directly, off-market. It suits British STAT vendors (Ship Today, Arrive Tomorrow) because people can order from the bathroom at work at 4PM, send the bitcoin payment, and have their order in their hands at 9AM the next day. The US is huge, with slow post. Your vendors always have an excuse if your order is 24 hours late.

I use DNMs like agora too, but when a customer comes good I airlift them off. I sell a weekend drug, and I feel responsible for my direct customer's weekends. So my direct customers get first dibs, and anything left over goes to a darknet marketplace.

Probably East India Company. Customers have to go where their vendors force them to go. I owe it to them to take them somewhere that will look after them rather than rob them, and give a deserving marketplace a leg up rather than reward the busiest.

I don't recommend the way I work for most vendors or customers. Most vendors are quite impersonal. Its hard to get attached to them, or there are other vendors who come along with better products.

BBMC only do one thing, but we've paid our dues like nobody else pre-darknet. Half of BBMC's profits goess into funding original research. I don't even have a car. For 4 years before I started selling BBMC meth on the Silk Road, we assumed we were in a technological space race with our US-based counterparts. We didn't use any US-based chemistry forums.

Then, when I listed on Silk Road, we realized it wasn't a race. It was just us all along. A new batch of meth is produced every week, and half of it is sold before the first test tube gets wet. And don't forget that meth customers are 24 hour, Thursday to Sunday customers who want to talk at 4AM.

With any vendor who's been around for less than a year and is a jack of all trades, you're probably better staying on-market, using escrow, and checking their feedback. BBMC are very specialized, probably the MOST specialized manufacturer / vendor. I've NEVER had a disputed order, everybody's expectations have been exceeded, and we go much further than we need to in every way. The fastest shipper, the most reliable vendor, the highest-purity product. New listing photos and product descriptions every week. We even help promising art-school students financially, and let them design our listing pictures which are mini works of art.

Here are the photo sets (4 in each) for BBMC's last 6 Agora listings:-

http://s28.postimg.org/7pndkphpp/BBMC_Aug_2015.jpg

People on reddit call me a "meth-head" as an insult. But whatever your drug of choice, you need a vendor like me trying to improve it. Meth is a messed-up blue collar drug of the working poor in the US, responsible for years of social problems.

There WAS no meth outside a small immigrant community in the UK. I was able to start with a blank slate, make cut meth impossible to sell In the UK, it's a rich-man's drug. Aspirational, and very much chemically skewed to being a sex drug. It's still a long way from getting off the ground here, maybe it never will.

Its worth dealing directly with the "me" of your drug of choice - the "acid-head" or "xanax head". Stick to the market for your bland one-stop-shop vendors selling the same old 84%, acetone-washed coke and coffee house grade dutch weed as all the other scammers in their "establish trust" phase.


[1 Points] colocures:

Another market -- yes I am willing to pay a small % to have a nice platform to manage orders on!


[1 Points] throwawayahoeaway:

I think you are way more likely to get scammed by a new market than a trusted vendor that you have done business with in the past.