To any DNM users who make direct deals with their vendors: Do you have any tips/advice for this?

Not asking for any of the specifics of your situation. Rather, I'm just wondering:

Thanks guys! :)


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[15 Points] octomarvel:

  1. A Tor serviced email.
  2. Email that tor serviced email using the vendors pgp key.
  3. Lbc - my non market wallet - vendors wallet.
  4. I dunno why you would opt to rather DD over a market deal. You literally have NO protection in event of a non delivery. Vendors usually hate markets for the escrow hold bit, not buyers.

In short, vendors scam more than markets scam. I would think the market is ALOT more safe than a DD. Just my 0.002btc.


[6 Points] SpecialAgentDildo:

If you don't already have an ongoing direct deal relationship I would say wait. If a decent vendor just lost his ass in one of these markets this might not be the best time to dangle some coin in front of them. Who knows what vendor owes their leg breaking source some money.


[4 Points] pwoahway:

Do it only with a vendor you have ordered from several times and trust.


[3 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

You don't want to maintain anonymity, you plonker. He's the one person you need to know who you are and where you live. And don't tumble your bitcoins to him unless he asks you to, because customers who do that are really annoying.

the main thing you need to do is get a proper android mobile, don't go insulting his intelligence by having a phone which doesn't have mycelium wallet.

try not to leave it until 5 minutes before the post deadline closes before enquiring.

Make sure that you tell him when you've sent payment to his wallet. type your name and address in the last line, then shut up until the early evening when he's got everybody's orders posted.. You can chat then.

Direct deals should be nerve-wracking due to lack of escrow, or the ability to leave feedback, so it should be with your favorite vendor of your favorite drug.

You get a much-closer relationship between customer and vendor, you can chat when you're both high, swap youtube links, and in my case watch me making the drug.

How do you end up being a direct customer?

By avoiding the bog-standard "PGP my details on the marketplace server" method of telling the vendor what to write on the envelope, and using a safer method where nothing touches the server.

The feds have the Silk Road server, the Silk Road 2.0 server, and possibly Sheepmarketplace's server, but they don't have any of BBMC's customers' details, not even in encrypted form.

Some vendors like to use safe email + PGP, some prefer the modern encryption on mobile devices. This is very convenient because you can order and pay from the bathroom at work on Thursday, then receive it before you go to work on friday (in the UK).

People instinctively feel nervous about smartphones, but find an open-source point-to-point encryption app and listen to people who KNOW, like the Electronic Frontier Foundation. You can delete your messages from both phones with most apps.

just be aware that some of them deliberately have FUD thrown at them, like surespot, in an effort to get terrorist groups and ISIS to abandon them and downgrade to PGP (which is 30 years old this year)

Most allow you to create a totally new key pair in 10 seconds, if you're nervous.

I do quite a few "hybrid" direct deals, still using the marketplace's escrow, but with the ability to contact me any time off market, and tell the customer "I posted your order 5 minutes ago".

Eventually, the marketplace loses the comission on half of the deals between me and my customers, but they get all the other purchases of the customers I take there.

I'm launching on Abraxas this week (I promise! If its still there), and all of my customers will be forced to register on there and buy from me via abraxas at least once, to get my feedback up and running. They're the sort of experienced, bitcoin-rich customers that every marketplace welcomes with open arms.

If they don't like vendors who do direct deals, they don't get to have my customers. Or me, for that matter, to dilute the meth scammers.


[1 Points] izza123:

I wouldn't do it at all. No matter how much you trust somebody if escrow is an option, take it.


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[1 Points] procowtipper:

If they don't have an email on their profile, pgp, or grams just ask for it. Depending on their quality of communication it could be very easy or very difficult. Just tell them what you want whilst including your public key in the message, and they'll give you a dollar amount to pay and the Bitcoin address. I always keep screenshots of me sending coins (even though they could be easily faked) to prevent any issues, but have never had any. You can usually get free shipping at minimum too as you're avoiding market fees.


[1 Points] Ironcore2014:

I am a new vendor on ME worked my but of to get good fb and it all might be for nothing. This is a good lesson to me not be naive and trust any site because in the end when they walk you can do anything but watch your money evaporate. Vebdor BBMC thanks for your imput man. I am picking up all the peaces because I had everytrhing tied up into ME.


[1 Points] HeideggersCat:

I've only ever done direct deals. Just make sure they are a reputable vendor and active on the proper forums and sites. Communicate a lot beforehand. I've only ever kind of gotten fucked over once. Every other time has been fantastic. I just find a couple vendors I like and keep on going back.


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