Reassure me... If Gram's helix was infiltrated by LE tomorrow... how fucked are we?

Of course by we I mean Gram's Helix and Helix light service users, and by infiltrated I mean the transaction data was caught as in link between input address and output addresses.

Does this mean we are better of using two services?


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[3 Points] _TROLL:

Tumbling has always been pointless.

Answer me this: if Grams was literally operated by LE right now, then what? They'd have your input address (which could be a DNM wallet) and your output address, which could be any wallet.

Then what's the next step for LE? There is none. Because the blockchain only shows coin movement; it says nothing about how the coins were used or obtained. At best it would be circumstantial evidence of DNM transactions. And the whole thing is a moot point unless you're tumbling directly into your legit account on an exchange. If you're tumbling into a private wallet, nothing is provable at that point.

Grams & similar are basically running a huge scam preying on people's paranoia.

Just set up a dummy LocalBitcoins account on Tor. Send your coins there, then withdraw them later. Voila. You've tumbled at no cost.


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[1 Points] 5553331117:

Tumbled coins can be traced without any hacking necessary.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2rhaqc/deanonimyzing_bitcoinfog_and_other_tumblers/

Don't use tumblers they are a waste of money.


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Fucked