If it Walks like a Duck... Trust my gut?

OK so (in theory) this is actually a pretty serious situation and I want to know what you guys think. It's a long read but it's all relevant info. Please put on your reasonable caps with me.

I'm a vendor and I make about $30K a month gross. Some of the things I sell aren't directly illegal but you wouldn't want to be caught selling them as narcotics. I believe that if some of my products were to be seized, there would be no legal repercussions for me because of the nature of the wares and the current legal environment.

My OPSEC is fine on the sale/distribution end except that I use my real name and ship to a 3rd party mail facility for receiving products from China which are not scheduled. Why would I use a drop for (supposedly) perfectly legal substances, right? I find using a drop to be significantly more risky given the nature of the compounds and I don't want to lose the product due to some mix up. Also, I don't even use drugs myself (at this phase in my life) so nothing illegal is in my home (in the extremely small chance that a search would be conducted). I find my entire operation to be fairly low risk.

A series of events have happened which leads me to believe that I need to vacate the game immediately:

  1. China instituted a ban on a ton of chemical compounds in early October 2015.

  2. In conjunction with that, the DEA did a sweep of a major International --> US mail hub for packages coming from China. 2a. The DEA claims they already arrested a number of people (thus concluding the operation) and I watched the video of them going through packages. But, I'm not sure that the operation is actually over. I originally assumed that I was not caught up in this sweep since I import pseudo-legal compounds from China. The DEA wouldn't be interested in me, right? I thought they just had a hard-on for methylone, etc. But, one of the packages in the video looks almost identical to something I get so they could have pulled one of my packs after profiling the supplier.

  3. I had a large-ish number of packages coming in and now they are all in limbo (4-5 packs). It's the longest I've seen any of my packages stuck in limbo on tracking without an update (checked with VPN + public wifi, not home internet, etc). I'm getting the feeling that customs is holding my mail.

  4. I'm not a paranoid person but I'm vigilant after an earlier life encounter of being robbed at gun point and also being caught up in a drug ring sweep. I escaped without being charged because they never caught me with drugs in my possession. They screwed the pooch on that one. This leads to point 5.

  5. Last week, I am almost positive that I scoped someone following me. I don't drive my 2 cars often so I'm usually walking. The same person followed my exact path for 10 minutes. This includes a stop I made in a public restroom (deviating from a usual walking path for people in my area). When I came out of the restroom, there was no one around except for that one person and they were just leaning against a wall checking their phone. As soon as I walked past them, they put their phone down and started following me again (15-30 second lag behind). I made 3-4 abrupt stops during my walk (seemingly to check my phone or look in my purse etc) and each time the person would walk past me BUT they would then stop too. They wouldn't start walking again UNTIL I walked past them. This person didn't look like LE to me but then again you never know.

  6. Finally, this is going to sound goofy but I read horoscopes sometimes. I read one the other day that essentially said "Pay attention to the warning signs." Or something like that. That really made me think that the fates are giving me a chance to NOT get locked up like a fool.

So here I am. I'm getting ready to dump $100K of merchandise in a public trash can and talk to my expensive lawyer I have on retainer. Or, should I just bury this shit in the woods in a plastic container and let it sit down there for a few months?

OR...Am I overreacting here? I don't use drugs (at this phase in my life) so I'm not tweaking on meth or something. Thanks for reading and let me know your thoughts on this situation.


Comments


[23 Points] None:

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[18 Points] yalldontknowjack:

We know your not on meth, you figured out how to make paragraphs. Heed the warning signs, no amount of money is worth your freedom.


[5 Points] quantikroidthrowaway:

if your packs are being held up and theres somebody following you, i dont think youre out of line laying low for a little while. actually thats what i would suggest. better to be paranoid and goofy than to be locked up. even if youre wrong the worst thing that happened is you got a little vacation from us. but if youre right and you dont stop you can most likely count on your vacation being in a federal prison


[6 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

What I sell is illegal, and I don't use it as an excuse to exit scam, Umbreon.

Hold your nerve. Plastic container in the woods is fine.Do what you like so long as you give people their money back.


[3 Points] TheOneThatFUCKS:

Yeah just hide the product and take a break for a while. Better safe than sorry right?


[4 Points] Chinaisbad:

From what I know... Anything out of China is bad news right now.

I vote, take a break. Stay safe


[5 Points] Heisencock:

All I've gotten from this thread is that /u/vendor_BBMC makes meth look like a wild fuckin' ride.


[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] boofk:

I wouldn't dump the product but hide it somewhere good. Make sure you aren't followed. Don't talk about anything on the phone/text. When you go to hide it don't take your cars or cell phone as both could be tracking you.


[3 Points] None:

If the substances are legal, what's the problem? Ask your fancy lawyer what's the worst that can happen. If you're distributing legal and/or unscheduled substances the repercussions are unlikely to rise to the felony level (with the help of your lawyer). Honestly if your lawyer thinks its a misdemeanor, tops, I would keep vending. Especially since (I'm assuming) these are RC's, no judge is going to know much about them and is likely to just give you probation or community service.

Then again, I ain't yo fancy lawyer. So go talk to him. But I'm just saying, most people would risk a misdemeanor (especially if it's below class A - very lowwww penalties) for $100K...


[3 Points] danathewhite:

theRoadLessToxic (Rhodes), is that you? :P


[2 Points] TrippedTimelord:

Not worth it at all...bury that shit...but return escrowed money like a good vendor since if they may be watching you they could be watching them. But yea OP bounce ive been watchin from the sidelines for a bit now after I got sober.


[1 Points] Dreamdom0fKings:

What if its a greeb. I don't think that's the same thing as a duck


[1 Points] itsbooming:

If you don't do anything IRL and weren't picking anything up I think the guy following you might just be a bit of confirmation bias. As far as the packages I would be worried also about that.

Starting to think throwing a beigbox on the back of the store coupled with a voice activated recorder and a hidden webcam watching the parking lot might be the way to go once opening up mailbox store drops might be a good idea for now on (I call anywhere it's shipped a drop, I use it interchangeably with address and I'm probably wrong but it's a habit).

Anyways good luck, and I'm hoping you aren't one of the lone vendors of halogenated Amps


[1 Points] Dr-Maximum:

I say, better safe then sorry :

Split the 100K worth of stuff in batches of 10K or so, that way, if you ever do get caught, only give up 10k of stuff


[1 Points] druggieslut:

Gtfo the us, move to NL or something


[1 Points] alwaysthrowaways:

Don't dump it in the trash, LE go through trash all the time and if you're being followed they'll know which one to search through, since they're certainly already going through yours. Hide it someplace. Find a way to get it out without it being known you have it and then lose the tail. Then bury it, put it in storage under a false name, etc. This also means you can recover later after it all blows over so you don't lose a lot of cash.


[1 Points] iamtipharet:

Why has nobody taken BBMC seriously? He's been saying this all along, and reddit as usual has been too busy pointing out how much meth the finger has been smoking instead of seeing where it's pointing. I thought the product was already in place, Umbreon. What happened?


[1 Points] Molly-Cyrus:

Only if your gut quacks like a duck :P


[1 Points] thrhooawayyfoe:

you check purses, read horoscopes and are mindful of syntax. I educe that you are a girl. you're welcome to hide both the bad things and your bad self with me.


[-1 Points] bobbiggs69:

If you're being followed by the kind of LE that would be involved with this kind of thing, you'll never know they're following you.

Not that you shouldn't still be careful. Your freedom is worth too much. Maybe you got lucky and had an idiot following you.


[-2 Points] RosyPalm:

Some of the things I sell aren't directly illegal but you wouldn't want to be caught selling them as narcotics.

Did you really just admit you sell RCs as real narcotics?

Thanks for reading and let me know your thoughts on this situation.

My thoughts? DIAF