[The ARK] What kind of content should be allowed?

Dear community,

The ARK has been added to the superlist since 2 days ago. (on the DNM forums section).

Since then a lot of fraud vendors contacted me to get listed on The ARK.

Now the idea of The ARK is to stay neutral on vendors and the products they are offering. But of course there is a line. For example CP and guns.

But what about fraud? I know there is a discussion going on about drugs being harmless and fraud brings harm to innocent people. But yea, it's Darknet and not Drugsnet.

My point is, I don't want too much negative attention on The ARK. So where is the line?

Should I list these type of vendors or not?

I will gather information from this thread and will make my decision later.

Thanks in advance.


Comments


[16 Points] None:

Fuck Fent. Allow it and you will have target on yourself.


[8 Points] savingfluffybunnies:

Personally wouldn't have the fraud. Fraud will always be at the expense of a victim, but drugs can easily be done between two consenting adults without any one getting hurt.


[3 Points] wombat2combat:

I would wait and grow a few months and then see / ask the community again. better to start smaller and with a smaller profile and slowly grow than go all in at the beginning.


[2 Points] Pylyp23:

I think /u/wombat2combat has it right here. If you truly want to be neutral, as you state, you kind of have to allow everything. I don't think neutrality should necessarily be he goal though. Some things (cp) are so morally wrong that you shouldn't allow it. Others (weapons, poisons, etc) will intensify the heat on you. It's really up to you and your personal morals. What this community wants doesn't really matter. If you have the items someone wants they aren't going to not use the site just because you also allow something that consumer doesn't agree with. Yeah a couple people might talk shit here if you offer items they don't morally agree with but, as much as some users would like to disagree, the people active on this sub are a small portion of a markets potential user base.


[2 Points] Yurgadrugig:

I'd be fine w/ fraud, guns and cp obv not


[2 Points] PerryMason69:

I wouldn't allow anything that's harming other people. CP, guns/explosives, poisons and fraud is where I'd draw the line. Also ban fentanyl - this shit is killing people and it's all over the media. I think the rise of fent was a main cause for LE to take down Hansa and AB to be honest.


[1 Points] HardC0r3:

allow everything please. We dont need a secondplace where everything is censored.

Its the DN so you should allow everything besides cp


[1 Points] stormerloupedx:

Law enforcement first and foremost target threats to capitalism. One of the biggest threat to capitalism is damging property. Fraud results in lost and stolen capital/property. Don't add fraud.


[1 Points] vonhazze:

You said it perfectly hombre; it the darknet not the drugsnet. I’m very young in terms of my experience with all of this but do have 40+ years o life experience. There are many things I would want to or believe would be best, to suit my personality and morals, left out or non permissible. But then it’s laying foundations for more rules, changes at whim, bureaucracy, selective and exclusionary practices, favoritism and cronyism and all the other issues that exist on other platforms and throughout our controlled lives.

I am very excited, supportive, confident, and hopeful with the Ark platform. Please do not think otherwise by my above comments. But I am only a few more Christmas gifts purchases away before my maiden voyage with the Arkecosystem. So looking forward to my first Ark coins, and a merry Christmas to me.

That being said, a decentralized market in my opinion is not decentralized if it’s slanted towards anyone’s specific values. Regardless of concessious approval or overwhelming support and backing by the greater majority of reasonable and theoretically impartial populous.

The days of the Old Wild West are everyday becoming just another forgotten memory. Being from the US I’m saddened by and frightened because of the shift toward legality in regards to the cannabis industry. I’d oft thought that, was the last thread connected to days forgotten when respect, privacy, and free choice were valued. I see the culture of and respect of this forced to reservations. $$ as eyes of people with no real love for or faith held in the values passed down from those who risked personal freedom and held sacred these traditions. The mere fact that the face of this growing industry is adorned in blazer jackets and jeans already outfitted with holes in them before they’ve ever been worn saddens me. The spirituality of the culture is being destroyed by an allusion of non persecution and general arrogance of no longer valuing privacy.

Lived in CA for many years and watched hard working peoples livelihoods severely impacted by the very people who are revered as being the forefathers of the movement. Skew the market, cater it to a certain crowd, earn some real money and voila...only the 4 power growers should run this...nobody else should be allowed to produce product if they do they have to resell through us. Meaning labor rates plummeted, non union work wages and margins plummeted, people continue to be incarcerated for having it though it should be all but obliterated as possibility. Meanwhile under the veil of medical cooperatives, the retail prices skyrocketed when the should have gone the other way.

Only ones seeming to benefit from regulation is government and those fortunate to gain entry in the ground floor which quickly and by they’re own doing was nailed shut and cased in armor...don’t miss the fact that they also destroyed the stairs and cut power to the upper floors.

Wow now that’s a tangent and nicely winded I must say. My point is like you said do you want to start the drugznet and be in charge of it or are your intentions to rekindle our current disconnection towards freedom, privacy, sovereignty, and basic self awareness. The darkweb is now the Wild Wild West. Where anything goes as long as a platform exists for it to exist on.

The basic principle of Tor is safety in #s. Why remove that shield so to speak and the camouflage of the pack by not welcoming all of it. Your morals, values, beliefs and character are still yours. Tell everyone about who you are and what you believe to be right and just if one feels so inclined. However, have we not learned from history and our past. Too many of humanities problems and clouds arise primarily based on exclusionary principals.

All men are created equal—-as long as you’re not black or a woman or non Christian or on and on. With elections not yet a full year behind us how many times did it happen that 2 or a group of people that were getting along famously instantly became cold, angry and hostile purely because of personal yet different allegencies to a political label.

The non biased inclusion of every and anyone should be allowed. This is my opinion and solely mine, I am in no way saying I’m right or my thoughts be clear and well thought out. I just think no one likes to be left out or shunned. If someone wants to be a pedophile I don’t support it and would be mortified if my children were accosted by said perv. But criminalizing, forcing into hiding and secrecy, and excluding such as regular members of society hasn’t nor will it ever eliminate this mindset. There will always be a bad apple or apples maybe even a bushel of, but that is life. And not recognizing and acknowledging these apples and addressing the underlying issues causing the rotting will continue to lye at the bottom in the dark and spoil a whole bunch more.

So if you can follow my train of thought and any of what I say makes any sense to you take what if anything you find useful and hope this helps a lil bit. If only just hearing an opinion or seeing another’s view you didn’t. I’m just me and tend to be in the parking lot when everyone else is in the ballpark and it’s been good to me so far.

Health, happiness and success! Looking forward to getting my feet wet in a couple in the ecosystem. Best of luck n I’m confident what ever you do it’ll be just the way it was meant to be. Peace