Everyone here is falling into Le's little trap.

The whole point of usuing Hansa as a honeypot was to scare the shit out of dark net users. It was to sow doubt in our minds and make us think that there are no markets to be trusted. Don't let LE manipulate your emotions, be strong boys!


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[77 Points] Glaukos86:

Imagine all of the LE here recommending people to go to Hansa after AB went down. Remember all of the shilliry.


[41 Points] None:

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[33 Points] 1gofjitter:

Logistically it's near impossible for them to go after every single DNM user. hundreds of thousands of them. It is 90% pure scare statics. Same thing happened with the pirate bay, napster and the DNMs that fell before. They'll go after the big players, but the average personal buyer is not worth the time, money or resources to prosecute.


[14 Points] Diqqsnot:

WHERE DO I GO FOR MY FUCKING WEED


[6 Points] x00x00x00:

this should be stickied at the top of this sub - not the Tor / Dream drama


[4 Points] Throughawayup:

It's just dramatic and it gives people something interesting to talk about and speculate on. I think there are many of us who know things will go back to normal eventually. Doesn't mean things aren't sketchy right now. It'll blow over. Doubt it's tor. As more info comes out things will become clear and people will feel safe.


[3 Points] Inthewirelain:

Not everyone. Just the loud paranoid people who pipe up after every big bust.


[3 Points] smb43432:

Give it a week ppl don't learn


[3 Points] SteelyEly:

I was only using Hansa for their sweet lottery. :(


[3 Points] FbisGaY:

They said it them self, they want to make YOU FEEL like you can't trust ANY market, i've got some good news for ya'll, YOU DONT TRUST ANY MARKET, YOUR TRUST YOUR OPSEC, if everyone did this on Hansa, they would have shit. Dont be comfortable, pgp is like a condom, use it always, period.


[1 Points] jamalbbb:

I wonder if this was a TOR vulnerability?? Can we be sure TOR is safe? I know from the past that the dutch LE never reveals the real succesful method, so they can do this again and again and again


[1 Points] PM_UR_DNM_TAKEDOWNS:

They played us good.


[1 Points] Dizzent:

That makes so much sense. They built 'the best' market with the best security features etc to get people to come to them. Then they closed AlphaBay a week before it & got all the new vendors/users to Hansa. Maybe the LE owned Hansa right from the start.


[1 Points] JakeTheDog420420:

This! . I must admit though that imo the people saying all of the current DNMarkets are shit are correct however you are also right to point out that LE's whole aim was to scare the users and make them feel unsafe using and trusting the darknet.

If you all keep good opsec, use tails, encrpyt manually and check the pgp keys your encrypting your messages with against other sites such as grams (to ensure the PGP keys havent been switched) then you don't have much reason to be concerned!

There's the slight risk of LE compromising vendor accounts and getting access to their PGP private keys/passwords however this is only going to be an issue for a shortish period of time. Most vendors will already be in the process of changing their passwords and other details that might have been compromised. Then the only concern is if they are later raided/arrested/under investigation but whenever you place an order you're trusting that vendor with keeping your info private so regardless even if they were raided if you have choosen a trustworthy vendor you dont have anything to worry about anyway as they shouldnt give up anyones info!

I'm just going to give the darknet a slight rest and hopefully when I come back they'll be a new market similar to hansa or ab to move to! :) LE haven't manipulated my emotions! They've just made me spend more money for worse quality in the streets for a little while!! booo! lol


[1 Points] ADoctorInTheHouse:

Has it been confirmed that Hansa was a honeypot?


[1 Points] snugglelufugus:

Logically if they had the means to take down all the vendors on hansa via 0day tthey would have kept the site up while they silently issued warrants, not give everyone a heads up to clean house.

OP is correct this is a dumb scare tactic because they dont have shit, they already took down the vendors who doxxed themself to them by getting socially engineered (me thinks leo gave them links or software under hansa admin name and some dumbass vendors listened, also said vendors were probably using windows).


[1 Points] Wheredmydickgo:

Tor was developed by the US Navy. Im sure they have the brains and resources to force traffic/ alter TAILS.


[1 Points] OpOnymousSurvivor:

the point was to target the influx of Dutch vendors and their buyers because they are flooding the world with MDMA and a couple Europeans bought guns on AB and the media claims they were used in terror attacks...

sending ross to supermax for life without parole was their attempt at scaring - howd that work out?


[-1 Points] Iamtyu:

Yes because fuck logic and keep buying illegal stuff while LE takes down every market, one after the other. It can only end well!


[-15 Points] xxxcat1:

Wait til LE starts arrest the small buyers, you will see panic and fear. And you are naive to think "Le doesn't care about small quantities". They will question and arrest thousands very soon.