[Vendor Review] Praetorian MDMA and MDA grams

Hello everyone:

This post is mostly to gripe about a number of things.

Communication (3/5): Exchanged a couple of words while ordering. Ordered about ten days ago, no update as to why the package was late. Vendor went out of stock/vacationed

Without giving up too much stealth practices:

Shipping and Stealth (1/5): First and biggest gripe, there was no return address on the package. My name was misspelled on both the outside and inside stealth layers (misspelled differently twice). Priority envelope was rigid and clearly did not contain just documents. Grey MBB was visible through a clear section of the package on one of the internal stealth layers.

Package arrived ten days after order. A solid 5 days after the vendor marked shipped (this was priority). I looked up the tracking and the tracking shows that it was in the system for less than 18 hours (meaning the vendor shipped a week + late).

Product (4.5/5): Product tests well and was slightly over weight. Knocking the .5 for the MDMA smelling slightly off and the MDA looking different than the brown sugar I expect to see (bag appeal).

Note that I believe some of the grievances above can be explained by the fact that I think the vendor is/was in my town when he shipped/he might have shipped from vacation. I just hope my experience will be considered before people order more from him.


Comments


[1 Points] lsd-LadyLove-lsd:

Ugh, I hate lazy vendors, who put the buyer and their self at risk. Why? Tosave a few extra bucks on packaging? Pure laziness. I don't mind paying more for shipping as long as the stealth is exceptional.... I hope you enjoy the product. I wouldn't dare order from them again if I was you. Too many mistakes... Don't risk your freedom, for poor stealth vendors.

-LadyLove


[1 Points] Loser15:

damn i really hope he doesn't send me methylone instead of mdma


[1 Points] None:

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[0 Points] ThePraetorianGroup:

This is Praetorian. The following are our responses to the concerning the original post which we have already discussed with the customer:

FIRST, Unless you tested your product with reagent or otherwise, you are out of line claiming that we sent anything other than what we advertise. We always test our products to make sure it is in fact what we say it is. Always. Let's make that abundantly clear... We DID NOT have methylone (bk-MDMA) in our possession at the time of this sale. Furthermore, selling methylone as MDMA is probably the most stupid thing any vendor can do these days. Far too many people test their substances these days, so that would be a fatal mistake. Also, we are here to spread the love....REAL love. Not RC's in their place. We can make money selling methylone as methylone, so there's no need to lie about it or substitute. There is absolutely ZERO reason you are not testing your substances to verify their identity before you use them.

We freely admit to the shipping delay in this case. We were in a particularly unusual situation which caused an extreme misstep in handling of the order. It was unacceptable, and we wish we had the opportunity to rectify it before we were written off by a select few. We would much rather have given this customer a refund than left them as dissatisfied as they are.

With that said, we must express our disagreement with many of the grievances of this customer. We vary our packaging randomly as to prevent profiling by postal workers. The ultimate goal is to make parcels&letters appear as legitimate on the outside as any other mail. Other than visual barriers, protection against damage and odor detection, the packaging on the inside of parcels does not matter.

Why? Because if your domestic mail is going to be opened or searched for contraband, this means that they have a warrant and are going to rip your article to shreds until they find what they are looking for. No matter how "cute" or professional it appears on the outside, or how many layers of MBB the packaging may have on the inside. They will find it.

Now this does not mean that we do not protect your items. Our customers know better (Ask them). It means that if you receive you order in good condition, unopened, and without delay, then the stealth has worked. What was on the inside did not matter, and it wouldn't have made the pack arrive any faster or made it seem any less conspicuous. Its' on the inside!

This customer received a flat-rate priority envelope. The USPS Domestic Mailing manual clearly discusses the guidelines for shipping, and flat rate packaging provided by USPS are explicitly advertised as "If it fits, it ships!". Rigid objects are FREQUENTLY placed in this type of packaging (textbooks, cds, pens/pencils, etc) as long as it is under 13oz. The only reason USPS asks if the envelope is rigid is so that they know to hand sort it rather than using the sorting machines as rigid envelopes can cause jams. In theory, a return address is a requirement for mailing; But we have much more experience with the mail system than a typical civilian, and we want you all to understand that what is actually practiced by mail carriers is different than what is theoretically expected. If a return address is not needed, asking questions about why its missing is just going to make their job more difficult. Delivering it as addressed is the simple solution...and clearly, this is what they did (and what they will almost always do). The customer RECEIVED HIS ORDER. As stated earlier, what was on the inside didn't matter in this case because the customer is the only one who saw it.

1.) We have NEVER lost a domestic package nor had one intercepted. 2.) If an order is delivered safely and all of the contents are as purchased, the stealth worked. 3.) "Improving" the stealth of an order that was successfully delivered would not have made the outcome any more favorable.

We ALWAYS want our customers to be happy with our service, so if you have any issues, we beg you to contact us first. We urge our customers to contact us first if they are in any way unsatisfied.