The TRUTH about oasis

Did you really think someone would risk life in prison for a 0% fee? Donations are one small step away from outright begging. How were they to monetize that? I expected sob stories from their admins and staff. You knew they were waiting for enough to stay in escrow and account balance to make a theft worth it. They did not really innovate. Monero had been coming from alphabay but they whipped their developers harder to ensure they had their first implementation. It was a gamble, this not so new cryptocurrency they yet had the power to sway its price. Marginally though, and we all know they took some small speculative profit from that but it was not enough. They had no long term goals and no long term financial stability. $100000 is a lot to many people.

They did not take enough lessons from prior exit scams but they did take one. Moneromarket. It is likely the ironclad to evo. I suspect that the admins of oasis are the staff kimble and verto never tipped out to from their exit scam.

Or could they be LE?

Of course $100000 in dark money is not much to LE, it would fund one of their agents to troll me on reddit for a year but why bother when many can be encouraged to do so for free?

The oasis market PR guy, behind the scenes would often try to talk with me as equals and though I would politely brush him off each time when he wanted to offer me or alphabay something, he so often tried to get on my good side through other means without appearing too much as a pleaser, I can dig up our old PMs but I remember their essence. I gave him opportunities to troll me viciously, the kind that would generate 3, 2 day long lasting front page posts here but he declined even when I would casually mock them. Why? It would have generated a lot of eyeballs on their market which translate to revenue.

I have made real friends on here, but the proof of friendship in such avenues as tor is to extract nothing from it. It is enough for me to demonstrate that you just want to live without hurting others. I need no gifts or praise.

I do not make threads when I have no proof, but this is the thread I have made with the least proof. A handful of PMs that maybe I am misconstruing. Take it for what you will, I felt you deserved to know.

The third option that I feel strongest towards is right around when oasis was knocked down, so too was the hub, the avengers, hansa, dream, and if the user reports I saw are not lies, alphabay as well. All are back up, except for oasis. They never got a professional security audit did they? Their PR guy in our chats enjoyed stressing their technical know how, but that only ever said to me that they were bluffing and in fact had very little.

PS if you as a vendor or staff are ever separated from the herd of buyers, you will be caught and you will go to prison. Their little vendor store scheme at the end felt exactly like the vendor only login page from SR2. If you can blend in with the crowd you are safe.


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[13 Points] emerald_citi:

I'm confused as to what you are saying here. What is the truth about Oasis? You give like three possibilities.

$100K seems like a really tiny take from running a DNM. Nevermind there was no dragging it out, no allowing deposits but no withdrawls - also if you kept track of the order numbers on the site Oasis was rapidly expanding and starting to blow up.

Oasis took more orders in the last 6 weeks than they did in the 6 months before that. Given the trajectory their orders were on I don't think they exited - I think they were hacked.

The entire time I used Oasis they steadily improved the site - 2FA implementation, the Monero thing was actually a couple of weeks before the site went down - and they improved the vendor listing options just a couple of days before the site went down. An exit would have been planned well ahead of time.

They were hacked.

Smash and grab - 140BTC sounds about right given the number of vendors on Oasis and the order flow.

IMHO this makes the most amount of sense given the peculiar timing of the site - especially the steady rate of improvements and - more importantly - order numbers. If certain trends held even a 4 or 6 week delay would have doubled or tripled their take.

The admins were probably as dumbfounded as anyone else to find all/most of the BTC gone.


[8 Points] weedandsyrup:

What am I even reading lol.


[6 Points] pinochetHA:

Trappy I am getting one message from this post loud and clear; someone somewhere in the Alphabay executive is scared. You've seen a small market that could compete fiercely with you. You have seen a market that people actually liked, rather than a market they grudingly just used by default. I think Oasis was the first market that could have actually threaten Alphabay's dominance, and I am genuinely saddened that they turned out to be thieves.

Personally I think a no fees model is viable. I would like to see an advertising funded market in the future, where vendors pay for banner ads on the site. I think that could work. Ultimately whether it's a market with fees, a donations-only model or advertising supported whether it exit scams will be decided by the honesty of the admin with access to the wallet.

Your speculation about Moneromarket is cheap and without basis. It is probably unnecessary also. No one is going to use such an ugly site. If Oasis had designed it they would have done a better job.


[3 Points] stilldogman:

Thanks, trappy mctrapperson.

I wish that there was proof that y'all were implementing XMR prior to Oasis - maybe there wouldn't be so many fuckin haters!

And I agree: $100kUSD is a lot to a lot of people (depending on your economic background). I certainly wouldn't scoff at it.


[3 Points] ______-______-______:

The LE angle never made much sense to me. I think LE would go "all in" and try to sling weapons if they were really wanting to get the bad guys.


[3 Points] SaintVengeance:

Personally, I think something happened out of their control (LE investigation, hacker, etc) and they're too embarassed/in a tight spot to come out and say it. Exit scam and LE seem very unlikely to me.


[1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

On alphabay I can feel the burning ego of the occasional medium sized vendor, attempting to dictate to me the terms of how things will go, that he is this mighty drug dealer with a pending empire and I'm a nobody

When a new marketplace starts out, the pencil-necked geek developer couldn't be more obliging. Asking if we want any new features adding, offering free vendor accounts - anything. He wants to be accepted among drug dealers and provide a service, happy to get his 5%. He just wants to get his foot in the door.

Like Alphabay.

Fast forward a year, they're talking down to drug dealers like they're shit, barely concealing their contempt, forgetting how lucky they are and telling vendors what they can and can't do, because they've managed to get their foot on the vendor's windpipe.

Like alphabay

Thank you Mr trappy Sir. Please may I have some more, Sir? So much for being the "PR" guy.

Everytime I start to think that maybe Alphabay is going to be one of the good ones, somebody says something stupid like this remarkable piece of corporate hubris.

Its not like this is YOUR first marketplace either, Von Trapp https://www.reddit.com/r/CannabisRoad/

You were a site admin the same week you got the alphabay PR job, I remember thinking how unusual that was. But maybe you had worked together before? I'm assuming that alphabay was bought from the original developer by the East Coast Collective. It would certainly explain why walletexplorer.com is so certain that this wallet belongs to alphabay, even though it predates alphabay by many months.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/AlphaBayMarket-old Its definitely a marketplace's wallet though. Hopefully, this post will be the first of a series, and we can enjoy "the truth about cannabisroad" and "the Truth about Alphabay", which you most definitely know.

Of course, it may be forgivable if /u/trappy_AB promises me that Alphabay will never exit scam.

So...do you promise never to exit scam, Trappingham? I'll go first:- I promise I will never exit scam.

There..that wasn't so hard. What kind of vendor would I be if I couldn't promise not to steal from you all? Its the least anybody can do, and I wouldn't be able to criticize my peers who exit scam if I didn't make that promise now, could I?

I'll come back in a bit to see Trappy_AB's promise right below these words.


[2 Points] None:

Finally someone with a brain.


[1 Points] Dabigmons:

Funny the vendor on oasis that got me for 5$ was named trappy_mcduck or something.


[1 Points] doeboyfreessh:

Hello,

We are monero market

-MoneroMarket


[1 Points] DrParagon:

You think.... law encorcement.... needs bitcoin.... to pay their employees....... to troll you? This wouldn't involve USD?

If you were in middle school this still wouldn't get a passing grade.


[1 Points] None:

Oasis was more than one person so 100K of dirty money on a good day split between 2 or more is chump change.


[1 Points] predajcaiscensored:

Did you really think someone would risk life in prison for a 0% fee?

I have 0% fees from start and I'm online since 2014-25-12


[1 Points] Selectivescammer1:

I don't logically see how anyone can think Oasis are LE, makes zero sense.

They exit scammed, or got hacked, most likely scammed. Although the 0% fee thing the guy is right about....who wants to go to prison for facilitating the drug trade while making little money from it, when you can make a lot more? I should have been suspicious from the start.


[1 Points] None:

well put. I think at the end of the day we are all awaiting the return of the one and true "honest market" ... Agora


[1 Points] HappinessDeciphered:

If i were to run a monero market , 2FA / MultiSig / 3% fee AND PGP enforced.

As well if i were to exit scam , I would give everyone their money back and i keep all the 3% of all transactions done. :D Fuck Greed. 3% is enough.

That way , you won't be a dick , and the same karma won't come back to you! :D


[0 Points] doeboyfreessh:

Trappy thanks so much for posting this !!! I been telling people this from the jump !!! People Here are so gullible it's insane !! It makes no sense the 0% commission I knew they were up to something the questions is what . Prob just scamming . I guess all you gotta do is respond nicely on Reddit an people will Trust you .... You rock trappy


[-1 Points] None:

:)