/u/TMPSchultz, if you are free, pretty please bring back TMP.

After the amount of people that have been fucked over by now, I think TMP would certainly be a success today. It had everything that everyone is screaming about wanting right now.

Decentralized (p2p via i2p)
forced 2/3 multisig (made pretty damn easy)
forced pgp

Fuck OpenBazaar and alt-coin blockchain markets. TMP was better than all that bullshit IMO. If TMPSchulz is free, he should not let TMP die! He should at least sell it :)

Any thoughts on this guys?


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[17 Points] None:

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[15 Points] None:

Never understood why TMP shut down. It was the most advanced market of the time(and probably now too), with mandatory multi-sig transactions facilitated by an easy to use plugin for electrum.

My favorite bud vendor was on it too. Svndmvn, pls come back.


[12 Points] None:

There's a new multi-sig only market on the horizen. I'm currently beta testing it for the developers. Anyone who doesn't know me, I'm JackBlue, probably the vendor who has used multisig escrow more than most anyone. The developers of this market asked me to consult with them on the multisig aspect of it and the end result is really good. So keep an eye out for Havana -- they should be opening within about a week.


[5 Points] GrandWizardsLair:

The Grand Wizard just commented on a 3 month-old post, so let's bring the discussion here.

The Grand Wizard proposes that any market going forward must offer multisig to make our marketplace list. At this stage of the game, admins who can't figure out multisig likely can't figure out how to harden their machines against attacks. Which means they are the last people who should be entrusted with a large amount of satoshis.

In an ideal world all new markets going forward would be multisig only, but at a bare minimum multisig needs to be an offering. Putting up a new market which offers only conventional escrow and giving it the /r/darknetmarkets seal of approval (which we do by inference when we include it) is just leading lambs to the slaughterhouse.


[6 Points] MarkMerrill1102:

Don't sell it, make it open-source.


[4 Points] Atador:

TMP was the first darknetmarket I ever used. With i2p and multisig... The first time I ever ordered. At this time (post SR1) I was sure I was on board of the next big ship, because then it was as obvolus as it is now. We will loose money again if we dont do something different.

Though I thing it did not take off that well because of the i2p hustle. And that really was a hustle for a regular buyer.

I am really interested in anything multisigish that will come our way.

Cheers to TMPSchulz!


[4 Points] youtakesally:

/u/TMPSchultz hasn't posted a comment on reddit for 6 months. I think he was quite disappointed of not receiving the support he deserved from the community.

Not that I'm pissed over it or anything, I mean, the guy relied too much on the theory of his market being perfect and should have made some improvements faster, instead of relying on the market running for itself. But he would be mostly right to be disappointed and say goodbye forever.


[2 Points] tp911:

Shame nobody supported this place and gave it the incentive to make reward worth the risk.

The best we can hope for is somebody uses tmp as template for new market or if schultz dons a new identity and relaunches similar market.

Even after unannounced surprise shutdown, was able to finalize many transactions. There was a single transaction that couldnt be finalized because redeemscript wasnt saved and i dont believe timelock was in place at the time. I can still see the funds sitting there til this very day. Learned a lesson about multisig and believe that i would have finalized 100% of outstanding sales if same thing happened today on tmp-style market.

And the inventory management for vendors was amazing for multi-qty discounts, etc. so sinple / common sense.

The community mostly begged to have central escrow implemented to bring a bigger user base but schultz refused. Non negotiable. Never understood that part in a sense unless it was never intended to be more than a multisig experiment of some sort.

And it was tor accessible.

It just needed more people involved with helping teach the payment system (it really wasnt that hard once u did it if u used some of the less secure key generation methods). Tools avail today would really make it a breeze actually.

Ah well.. Use blackbank and show developers/admins that ppl care to use multisig and maybe somebody will clone tmp features.

I thought the dev team seemed to know what they were doing too.. I believe the central escrow feature being denied was part of the plan to not become a target of bad actors looking to steal. LE gets no roi on investigating and prosecuting, hackers have no standard wallet target, etc. vmaybe that was why they refused central escrow feature request?


[1 Points] QLDGreat:

Do yourself a favour... don't turn around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmgbBSuaYr8


[1 Points] 13tom13:

no one cared at the time, everyone seemed to underate it people should have listened tmp was awesome :/. I doubt it will come back unfortunately...


[1 Points] heyfreshhhhh:

i2p is the problem. It is inefficient and it sucks, making it ridiculously inconvenient for the average buyer.


[0 Points] twigburst:

The average DNM user is too simple to use tails let alone figure out electrum, i2p, and multisig. It sucks, but its the way it is. I loved TMP...


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