What you should know about fake xanax bars, home-synthesized powders, and underground steroids.

People don't realized how much they are being ripped off when buying these things. Listings claim 99% pure alprazolam and 84% pure MDMA, but I will explain how this cannot be. First and foremost, I only use brand name benzos because they are way cheaper than the fake ones, simply because they are made using pure chemicals. So there is actually 1mg of alprazolam in my football rather than the 2.5mg of alprazolam in the fake bars you see. The biochemistry lab at the university I attend has a GC-MS chromatograph which I know how to use. I purchased 250mg of alprazolam powder from two seperate sources. I also took trenbolone acetate from one source and oxandrolone from two separate sources. I chose these three drugs to test because I only use benzos and steroids. One would not even need a machine to tell you that the alprazolam is not pure, because it's an off-white brownish powder and pure alprazolam is white.

So I dissolved the alprazolam in methanol and placed the capillary tube in the machine. I added up the different molecule groups until I had the maximum amount of alprazolam in the solution. Came out to be a whopping 17% alprazolam. I didn't even bother testing the other one because it looked the same anyway. So, the vendors claim they use 2.5 mg in each bar. I don't doubt they do. But this just means that in reality, you are getting .425 mg per bar give or take depending on their source, but I can promise you the difference is negligible. So you are paying $2 a bar which contains less alprazolam than a peach football from the pharmacy. So the only use for these bars is to resell them to kids that don't know any better to make money. But buying them to use, you are being swindled.

Now onto the steroids. The trenbolone was a bitch to get inside a capillary tube because it's an oily ester. Nevertheless, 46% were trenbolone and acetyl groups. This explains why you can use a gram and a half of the stuff a week and not have terrible sides. Because if you took that much of pharmaceutical grade tren, the sides would be terrible. But you'd have to actually use over 400mg daily of darknet tren to reach that dose. Oxandrolone is the most faked steroid in the market these days. Even when oxandrolone was legal, it was so expensive. More expensive than the anavar you can buy illegally. So the first sample I tested actually did show oxandrolone, but it was only 24%. This makes sense because people use 100mg of this stuff a day, but you only need 20mg of anavar from the pharmacy to see good results. The other anavar I wanted to test because I knew it wasn't anavar in the first place once I began bloating when I started it, which is a dead giveaway that it's not legit, but I did definitely gain strength. So I predicted it would actually be anadrol, since I have used it and the bloating and strength gains were consistent to this. Came out at 57% oxymetholone, just what I thought.

So drugs manufactured by the black market are highly impure. It's no different than crystal meth, which methamphetamine hcl is a white crystaline powder, nor is it different than heroin which is usually brown, but should be white if pure. The reason meth synthesis is so easy is because you are only removing a hydroxyl group from ephedrine or pseudoephedrine which yields methamphetamine aka desoxyephedrine. Heroin is extremely easy to synthesize because it is a one step process of mixing morphine with acetyl anhydride which removes the two hydroxyl groups and adds two acetyl groups creating a freebase diacetylmorphine aka heroin. Half life of heroin is only 10 minutes because it is rapidly metabolized into morphine. Those 10 minutes allow the drug to cross the BBB and bind to the receptors more efficiently, which is why it is a bit more potent than morphine. In order to create a pure drug, you need equipment that can only be found in pharmaceutical labs. They use precise amounts of ingredients to yield a pure substance. So if you are wondering why those xanax bars you bought felt weak, now you know.


Comments


[18 Points] SeeThroughBabyBlue:

You are making a huge assumption that most vendors are sourcing their alpra from the same place you are. I think it stands to reason that XK and others like him are/were sourcing far purer product than 24%.


[10 Points] None:

Dude edit this post and add some paragraphs. I am interested in reading it but it is really hard to when it is a giant wall of text.


[11 Points] OxyContinPLS:

I've been using benzos for years, and there are definitely a couple of home made pressed pills on here that are the real deal - strength wise. I understand some of the powder might be under quality, and some of the people might be pressing using that powder, but maybe some of the other vendors have better sources. With someone that has a tolerance like mine, the difference between .5mg alp in a pill, and 2mg+ is glaring, I would know if my pills were THAT underdosed.


[11 Points] thetruth3u32:

Anyone who has had fake xanax from a quality vendor knows what you posted is untrue and I personally prefer the fake ones that hit you harder than the real counterparts. The sources you purchased alprazolam powder from gave you bad product and you made a big assumption all vendors on the dark net get the same alprazolam powder. Of course there are always going to be sellers selling cut drugs to make the max profit, this is a situation you would leave bad feedback and not return to the seller.


[9 Points] 1percentof1:

This comment has been overwritten.


[5 Points] None:

Thankyou for posting. I had always suspected this. If you test anything else please let us know


[5 Points] kingintheattic:

Pharma tren? ha.


[3 Points] None:

You mentioned 84% mdma, but didn't address it. What do you know/suspect on that?


[2 Points] satisfyinghump:

this was a pleasure to read, thank you


[2 Points] Plead_Ignorance:

Makes it a little more readable. probably could use more paragraphs

People don't realized how much they are being ripped off when buying these things. Listings claim 99% pure alprazolam and 84% pure MDMA, but I will explain how this cannot be. First and foremost, I only use brand name benzos because they are way cheaper than the fake ones, simply because they are made using pure chemicals. So there is actually 1mg of alprazolam in my football rather than the 2.5mg of alprazolam in the fake bars you see. The biochemistry lab at the university I attend has a GC-MS chromatograph which I know how to use. I purchased 250mg of alprazolam powder from two seperate sources. I also took trenbolone acetate from one source and oxandrolone from two separate sources. I chose these three drugs to test because I only use benzos and steroids. One would not even need a machine to tell you that the alprazolam is not pure, because it's an off-white brownish powder and pure alprazolam is white.

So I dissolved the alprazolam in methanol and placed the capillary tube in the machine. I added up the different molecule groups until I had the maximum amount of alprazolam in the solution. Came out to be a whopping 17% alprazolam. I didn't even bother testing the other one because it looked the same anyway. So, the vendors claim they use 2.5 mg in each bar. I don't doubt they do. But this just means that in reality, you are getting .425 mg per bar give or take depending on their source, but I can promise you the difference is negligible. So you are paying $2 a bar which contains less alprazolam than a peach football from the pharmacy. So the only use for these bars is to resell them to kids that don't know any better to make money. But buying them to use, you are being swindled.

Now onto the steroids. The trenbolone was a bitch to get inside a capillary tube because it's an oily ester. Nevertheless, 46% were trenbolone and acetyl groups. This explains why you can use a gram and a half of the stuff a week and not have terrible sides. Because if you took that much of pharmaceutical grade tren, the sides would be terrible. But you'd have to actually use over 400mg daily of darknet tren to reach that dose. Oxandrolone is the most faked steroid in the market these days. Even when oxandrolone was legal, it was so expensive. More expensive than the anavar you can buy illegally. So the first sample I tested actually did show oxandrolone, but it was only 24%. This makes sense because people use 100mg of this stuff a day, but you only need 20mg of anavar from the pharmacy to see good results. The other anavar I wanted to test because I knew it wasn't anavar in the first place once I began bloating when I started it, which is a dead giveaway that it's not legit, but I did definitely gain strength. So I predicted it would actually be anadrol, since I have used it and the bloating and strength gains were consistent to this. Came out at 57% oxymetholone, just what I thought.

So drugs manufactured by the black market are highly impure. It's no different than crystal meth, which methamphetamine hcl is a white crystaline powder, nor is it different than heroin which is usually brown, but should be white if pure. The reason meth synthesis is so easy is because you are only removing a hydroxyl group from ephedrine or pseudoephedrine which yields methamphetamine aka desoxyephedrine. Heroin is extremely easy to synthesize because it is a one step process of mixing morphine with acetyl anhydride which removes the two hydroxyl groups and adds two acetyl groups creating a freebase diacetylmorphine aka heroin. Half life of heroin is only 10 minutes because it is rapidly metabolized into morphine. Those 10 minutes allow the drug to cross the BBB and bind to the receptors more efficiently, which is why it is a bit more potent than morphine. In order to create a pure drug, you need equipment that can only be found in pharmaceutical labs. They use precise amounts of ingredients to yield a pure substance. So if you are wondering why those xanax bars you bought felt weak, now you know.


[1 Points] _Zlatan:

who's steroids did you test?


[1 Points] il0vedrugs:

Good to know, I wish you would have tested the other xanax sample though.


[1 Points] megaz221:

Good post and info. One should note that any "anavar" you are buying is most always fake. If it's real anavar, it's going to be expensive as fuck. The price to gain ratio of real anavar is really not worth it. I wouldn't trust any UGL anavar tbh. You can find very good underground sources for steroids though. And it should be noted that there is no such thing as "pharmaceutical tren," any kind of tren you get is homebrewed. It's really just about finding a good source that knows how to brew. And good tren will always be a dark amber/yellow.

EDIT: forgot to ask, how were your gains on the tren? Did you like it?


[1 Points] None:

Did you get your powders from China?


[1 Points] k0rnerguY:

Jus use eti


[1 Points] ThrowawayForMei:

As someone who began taking Oxandrolone he acquired off of SR, you've succeeded in scaring the shit out of me. I don't care if the shit is low dosed, but now I'm just staring at myself wondering if I'm bloating and whether this shit is Anadrol.


[1 Points] WishfulTraveler:

Can you test raw steroids from qualityraws and Kevin from /r/steroidsourcetalk in the future?


[1 Points] FredericaBimmel:

Maybe thats true for the vendor you tested, but i have tried some of the knock off bars and was pleasantly surprised. I have quite the benzo tolerance and two bars had me feeling nice. Now that was supposed to be 5-6mg of xanax. There is no way it was just or under 1mg as you seem to claim in your post. Also thousands of experienced benzo users order the fakes. If they were really only 27% the claimed strength, people would stop buying them.


[1 Points] dr0belch:

I want to get some of your football's. I knew these bars where fake or week as hell. Ive been prescribed them for 9 years but with all the bull shit going on you cant get a dr to write them.


[0 Points] kingintheattic:

If you didn't know that the underground drug market was riddled with underdosed, and even deliberately mislabeled compounds you shouldn't be purchasing this stuff.

Edit: "you" Is not specifically directed at OP just everyone in general.