Elise Yamaha taught me a valuable lesson about being a consumer in a lawless market

Consumers in lawless markets must always remain vigilant in order to avoid traps, and that means doing a thorough background check on vendors - ESPECIALLY when you are international, as auto FE and long shipping times make it easy for vendors to scam consumers who are not careful.

This experience has taught me that reading a few positive reviews does not necessarily mean one should order from any specific vendor. It is imperative to consider the negative reviews as well.

I am American. Elise Yamaha is in the Netherlands. I saw some positive reviews and the price, and impulsively placed a large order. It has been 31 days since it was "shipped."

After combing through the negative reviews, I noticed a pattern; every 2-3 weeks, someone complained of never received a package. Elise responded to all the complaints, but something tells me that was just for show. She explicitly lists that she does not do reships, and that shipping can take up to 4 weeks. how convenient.

tl;dr don't buy from elise yamaha


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[25 Points] None:

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[8 Points] tnw28:

This is written like a PSA, but it really is just a vendor complaint accusation. And like you said, you live in the US and this vendor is from the NL, literally the worst possible place to order from. I am not saying it is not possible this vendor selectively scams, as I'm not then...

But I can tell you with utmost certainty that any package I order I just assume will not show up. Customs is going to get it, it's going to get lost, or not sent, whatever. Just assume you're placing a gamble and you hope you'll come out on top.

But gambling with ordering from one of the hottest countries and then being upset and blaming the vendor doesn't feel like the right way to go about it.

I do appreciate your post was well written and not just pointing fingers all angry like. Sorry for your loss, maybe someday it'll show (like that DMT that arrived after a year)


[4 Points] throwaway0246802468:

dealing with the same thing... good price, impulsive order, etc. After it started taking a while i went and looked closer at the feedback and lots of the positives are "50% refund," so the people never got their packages and are trading a positive review for a partial refund. just goes to show price isnt everything, it likely makes sense to pay much more for a darknet product if by doing so you can be more confident the vendor will actually ship it


[5 Points] dknt_throw:

I'm in a similar position with this vendor. Best thing to do is continue making threads here to warn others so the word gets out.

I was waffling between Uncle Psychedelic and Elisa, and decided to take a gamble since Elisa is so much cheaper.

Never again. Uncle P is extremely reliable and my dumb ass should've stuck with a good reliable vendor even if more expensive than gamble with EY.

I'll come back and update if I do actually receive my pkg too. i don't believe in piling on when not warranted and I'm really hoping that EY turns out to be legit because the 2cb prices are fantastic.

I will say that I like the fact that EY has a presence on reddit and actually posts and answers questions from buyers. That's a good sign and hopefully they turn out to be honorable.


[3 Points] TheOpiateKing:

You really are an idiot. So you read her whole profile before ordering, and learned it can take around 4 weeks and no reship..:then you complain when it's been around 4 weeks lol. You ordered from the Netherlands. Untracked. You're ordering drugs through the fucking mail. This isn't amazon.

Then you go on to say she's been nice and helpful, but it's all for show. How old are you? I'm guessing maybe 20?

DONT ORDER FROM A VENDOR IF YOURE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THEIR TERMS

Every vendor who ships international, especially lots of packs, will never negative reviews.

Tl;dr go cry somewhere else.


[2 Points] MitalikaSucks:

Looks like classic selective scamming....sorry to hear bro, but thanks for warning the others!


[2 Points] Zathras_listens:

I got my order in dispute right now. Also around a month of waiting with nothing. They seem nice about the whole thing. We will see what happens.


[2 Points] Isp89:

I'm not defending them but it seems like a lot of packs do go missing from the Netherlands so it may not be entirely their fault. I wish they would start shipping out of Germany. They could flood the US with 2cb if they're actually honest


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[2 Points] Darrellsdimebag:

Funny how they pop in and comment on all kinds of threads on here, except the ones that are complaints about their orders. Then they are nowhere to be found


[0 Points] Elisa-Yamaha:

Shipping overseas may take a while, if 100% of our orders with track and trace arrived and they are 100% covered by our refund policy.

We've earned the right to put ALL listing in full FE only, yet we made the decision to keep all our listings in escrow.

We're communicative and sort out almost every problem, as long as a customer remains respectful and understanding, and also understand that we're not amazon.

We have no reason to selective scam once every 2-3 weeks, most of the larger orders we receive are placed with track and trace anyway, I suggest you do the same if you can't lose the money invested. Orders with TNT are 100% covered by our refund policy.


[2 Points] DaDavidLynchMob:

I've posted about this several times, They come to the disso/mxe subs to adverise and I've seen a pattern of selective scamming and when they DO ship, a portion of those users have said the quality is inconsistent. Elise approached me with a free sample to put my concerns to rest (IE stop posting warnings to their potential marks - some of my fellow disso's). As it just so happened, the sample never arrived after supposedly messaging both "girls". If you like to gamble, have fun!!


[1 Points] PsyCanna:

@ElisaYamaha Please give some time for Elisa to sort it out. I have not had much experience dealing with them myself, but ive seen their presence on reddit and I've heard a lot of good things. Anyway they sound reasonable, plus its escrow so your all good! Mine came in a week (EU). Sometimes orders to/from the US can get huge delays (can be weeks sometimes). They are legit, the price is not 'too good to be true'