2cb salts HBr vs HCl ie. 2cbking vs UP

I am going to talk in short sentences to conclude point faster.

Hello dnm community, lots of choas now so I thought I would make a side topic type post to entice other conversation. Probably belongs in r/drugs but more knowledge here on the actual topic......maybe can act as a guide.

2cb, the last drug on my "to try list" for the longest time. Countless people say its a must try. "Mdma like feel with an lsd twist." How could people interested in drugs not try something like this?

Fast forward to the day my UP package arrives. Two things: first, its my first international pack so I was ecstatic and relieved, second, finally get to try this 2cb thing. Well after 30mins of trying to find the damn bag (incredible, I would feel safer ordering international from UP than a domestic pack), I dose 12 mg to start safe. Powder is off tan color, 1.27g. Alone and just chilling. Slightly impressed but underwhelmed.

Buddy gets home and we decide on 30mg and a movie. Damn, now we are talking, one of the most incredible feelings of connection with a movie. Feels so real and embraced incredible.

Fast forward few months, many many doses later of random events and get togethers. (I am much into psychs and mdma but not into the edm seen, more partys, bar scene). Having a blast with 2cb and sharing the love, I realize I am running low.

Heard of 2cbking (who hasnt?) and decide to try him. See that he has the HBr salt instead of the HCl. Lots of research concluded that there is not much noticeable difference, so I pull the trigger with him. Two things: First DD, went super smooth and great person to talk with, second, super amazing stealth. 2g very white powder, looks amazing.

Long story short, dosed many different doses of the HBr and it never came to the doorstep of HCl. No matter how much of the HBr salt taken, it doesnt produce the visuals that HCl does, however the body sensations are more prevalent. Its truly like they are different substances. I propose it to the fact that the salts cross the BBB at different rates, HCl being much faster.

I was very confused by this. Many people say that they are very similar but I have to disagree. Both products are amazing, but I lent both to people without there knowledge and they were able to distinguish between the two salts, as I am but being as that I know what I am weighing...kinda bias.

Anyhow just wanted to hear opinions, there must be people around who have tried 2cb from both of these vendors and can contribute their experience.

And I need to include my most intense experience....(all HCl)

90mg followed by 20mg redose about 30 mins after initial drop walking to the bars. Brought 6mg of xanax with me incase I needed it to stop and had 1 tripsitter as her friend was experiencing psilocybin for the first time, all other friends on mdma, all drinking. All I can say is the shapes that were floating around me were beautiful. Didnt need the xanax but shit, was intense.

Havent taken any for 4 months or so, HPPD was bad at first but is slightly going away. Comes in strong when axious or sleep deprived. But does not bother me anymore.

Thoughts?

tl;dr: Any experience with 2cbking vs UP 2cb?

Edit: Haha I wrote this when I first started my cocaine bag at like 4pm now its 6:15am and I am still twacked. Just finished my last line at 4am.

Cocaine is an ok drug cocaethylene on the other hand, fuck I am in love.

However it may sound I am an alcoholic who has been struggling, I relapsed today and long story short ended up at my place with another guy with a g of cocaine while we had just finished 2 grams. I have never had a buddy to finish the cocaine at the late hours of the night. After a few bumps we confessed we are both struggling with addiction, going to a meeting at noon and 5:30 to hopefully break this. Really people with addiction problems, alcohol is crazy, I cannot relive how powerful this is. My whole above story takes place during my first attempt at soberiety from alch whish lasted 7 months, dosed 2cb a lot, so idk how you can call it sobreity, but not drinking is a plus for me. Take care everybody, wish me luck.


Comments


[7 Points] regarding-the-drugs:

I like them both. I agree with you that they're both different in visuals intensity and body high.

2cbking's is my go to if I want to party like crazy. I get insanely confident and I found his more euphoric. I wish like crazy he was still vending.

UP's definitely has more psychedelic visuals for me, and it also has more of a sexual energy to it.

What I like to do is mix them and get the best of both.


[3 Points] cheapcab:

I like UP, been buying from him for years. Tried king's and it was good. There's not a ton of difference in dosage but to me, UP's gets you so fucking high while kings is more mellow but seems to be really visual and colorful. Both are quality. I just prefer UP.


[3 Points] None:

good to know, thanks OP. great post. I always thought HBr was the same but you only needed slightly more chemical to make up for the difference. I really wish high quality 2cb HCl was more prevalent on the markets, but sadly no one gives a shit about the bees


[3 Points] fish_scale_a1:

how can i contact UP or 2cbking ? i lost 2cbking email and last i checked he wasn't active anymore :(


[3 Points] FastToTheFun:

UP really impressed me. I saw him on Dream if you wanna fuck with them.

Tip: You have to SNORT 2C-B to really get a good experience. It will burn like a bitch but it's much more fun (and cost effective) than swallowing it. I need 16mg or less snorted for a trip that rivals LSD trips. Snorting makes the trip last shorter but I think that's actually a good thing.


[1 Points] BrownHippie702:

I'd like to get in contact with 2cb king I still have some of his HBR from alphaba (rip) and its best I've tried. Ive also tried 2down's HCL b4 that account got banned it was not as good as 2cbKings product imo. How do you get in contact with 2cbKing?


[1 Points] capitalist4life:

the HBr salt could theoretically cause bromine poisoning, but you'd have to consume a huge quantity in a short period of time.


[1 Points] shoplifta:

For me, the worst thing about 2cb has always been the come-ups, which include nausea and for my friends sometimes vomiting. What's the come-up like with HCL and HBr? All the same? I have some HCl (pill form) which I've taken orally and nasally. How do you take it? I know boofing allegedly is the best but I'll leave that out of the picture for now.


[1 Points] regarding-the-drugs:

Does anyone here know UnclePsychedelic's email? If so could you please PM it to me? On his Dream profile it's showing it as ....@-scrubbed-.

I need to know what the "-scrubbed-" part is. Thanks


[1 Points] EatSheets:

Pull through on sobriety if that's what you are going for. Atleast try to cut one bad habit out of your life. Alcohol for me will always be a struggle

Shits no joke- and it's sold on shelves.

I once saw a guy having a "seizure" outside of a liquor store. Turns out the guy was just drinking alcohol without a liver, because he destroyed his previous one from drinking