Should I leave Bad, Neutral or No Feedback?

Ok so I've purchased from at least 15+ vendors over my DNM career and never once did I even think of giving bad feedback, until now. So I decided to try a different vendor (like I always do) and placed a small order. This vendor offered "OVERNIGHT EXPRESS" for like .08 BTC or something which I decided to to choose. The vendors page says "same day shipping with a certain deadline" which I made by 12+ hours. A couple hours later the vendor messaged me to tell me he can't ship out today, which I said ok no problem. The next day he said he shipped it at 3:35 and the cutoff was 3:30 so now it became 2 day, again I said no problem. Today I get my package and the first thing I do is look at the label. This fuck shipped it out the same day I ordered and paid $5.75 for regular priority like it was a regular order! It clearly states on all his product pages "Same day shipping by 2PM EST. Regular Priority 1-3 Days. Express -Overnight to most places, may take 2 days." I guess what is really pissing me off is the bullshitting I got and how fucking grimy it is. I paid for overnight and was expecting it in one day, but instead had to wait 3. On top of that, his stealth was AWFUL, I mean AWFULLLLLLL and his product was in the bottom 3 worst quality I've gotten on a DNM. Should I leave bad, neutral, negative or no feedback? Should I contact the vendor first or not? I haven't contacted him because I don't want to look like I'm trying to get free shit cause I'm not. Trust me with his stealth and the low quality I would seriously pass on anything free from him. Anyway, just want to do the "right" thing and definitly feel he deserves a neutral at the very least. Any thoughts?


Comments


[17 Points] RosyPalm:

Well contacting the vendor and allowing them a chance to respond is always a good thing to do. Don't really think there's any plausible explanations for that red-hot mess that I'd accept though. I think I'd just flat out tell him he's getting a crappy review and tell him exactly why:


[9 Points] Heynow6969:

I am going to contact him for sure now. Really the least he could do is refund the $20 he charged for express when it was never shipped express. I will update with his response, however long that takes lol


[8 Points] Lost_my_fucking_mind:

I like it when people leave bad positive feed back, or good negative feed back.


[3 Points] thecheat420:

Don't be afraid to leave bad feedback if a vendor messes up. That's why the option is there. A lot of people are afraid to leave less than perfect feedback for some reason and It's kind of annoying. I've actually seen posts that said something along the lines of "Shipping time was long and stealth was bad, product is so-so. 5/5" Feedback like that skews ratings and makes it easy for shitty vendors to get away with sub par work.


[3 Points] None:

Trash his reputation with a terrible feedback. You probably wouldn't be taken seriously if you didn't


[2 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

Darknet marketplaces mean you don't have to go into scary situations to buy drugs anymore. No more back alleys, crack dens, reinforced doors, lookouts on corners, people with guns. But there is a new geberation of drug buyers who never did a real drug deal. And its because orf this, they are scared of the postman.

I think it would be wrong to ruin a vendor's feedback because of the stamp used on the envelope, and the envelope itself.

Whatever drug it was, could you smell it outside the envelope? postmen get fired if they go opening people's mail, it's private. If it isn't crossing international borders, does it have to be welded between steel plates so it can't be seen if somebody opens the envelope?

The stealth was appropriate because the drug you ordered got there, and it was the right drug in the right amount.

0/5 is for somebody who scammed you. You're not buying an envelope. You're buying what's in it, which you haven't even mentioned.

If you paid for an expensive postal method and you received a cheap one, then ask for a refund of the postage.

If the vendor stated that he uses special stealth methods and you didn't get one, you may have cause for complaint. But for all we know, it could have just been a gram of some powder which doesn't pass through customs - the easiest thing to post in the world.

No dark alleys, no rastas on bikes, no guns. Drugs arrived in a lovely clean envelope instead of a twist of cellophane kept in some hoodlum street dealer's cheek.

If you went up to a street dealer and said in comicbook store guy's voice "worst envelope ever", he would cut you. In the face. You'd be scarred for life.

Now lets all go home and think about what nearly happened here today. Some kid who's never bought drugs that didn't come from a laptop nearly did something childish and petty, throwing his toys out of his pram about an envelope and a stamp. And some of you were telling him it's the best idea ever.


[2 Points] DnmAvenger:

Always get in touch with the vendor first. That should be common practice. Some of these operations are pretty big. The guy you talk to online may not be the guy that packages and ships. Just sayin'... Hit 'em up and see what kind of solution they have for your issue. It is easy to be way too hot headed in the heat of the moment. I have received a decent amount of free drugs by politely handling issues with a vendor. I always state the whole story in feedback and reviews though. I just think it is possible to make up for almost anything with enough free drugs. Ha!


[1 Points] UDNM:

You should definitely contact him before leaving feedback, if he doesn't try to resolve it leave honest feedback.


[1 Points] 13tom13:

I would probably message him about it telling how i feel see what he says and leave neutral feedback explaining what he did at the very least but remember dont be too much of a dick just tell the truth he does have your address


[1 Points] FriendlyDrugAddict:

I would message the vedor first just saying, I'm going to leave you a x/5 because, not only did you send it priory and not overnight, The stealth wasn't up to par, as with the prduct. depending on how good the product is I'd leave anywhere from a 2-4 but make note of the shipping issue in the feedback.


[1 Points] 1ReviewReviewer1:

I absolutely think at the least a Neutral feedback is in order. At the least because you paid such an insane price for express shipping, only to see it went out priority. IMO that's pure dishonesty (since quality and such really could boil down to opinion), there is no denying you were cheated paying upwards of .8 BTC for just priority!

I think leaving a neutral or even negative feedback, while explaining the reasoning for your feedback is perfectly acceptable. Most vendors will message the buyer and try and work something out to reverse the feedback, and if you left a negative feedback that was honest, it shows you are at least reasonable and he may make it right for ya in the end. At least moreso then the people who leave feedback like "3/5: It was okay.."


[1 Points] YouRedditHereFirst:

If his stealth was so bad that it potentially compromised you and your safety, give him the worst feedback to warn others. It's only a matter of time before he gets people caught with awful stealth.

Back when SR1 was around, I got a pack of weed sent in a single plastic sandwich bag (the kind that doesn't zip close) and stuck inside a plain white envelope. The guy didn't even spring for a freezer bag or a security envelope at the least. My mail room in my apartment REEKED of weed since it was in the middle of summer and I smelled it all the way across the room. He got pissed when I gave him a rating of 1 and ruined his then-perfect rating. He wrote me a nasty message and said I screwed him over. Fuck people like that.


[1 Points] throwaway1882072:

I would personally go Neutral, and leave feedback to the effect of 'Paid for overnight shipping, did not ship express, and took X days to actually drop in the mail, which negated any expedited shipping'

I often pay for overnight, and this is a huge pet peeve of mine, I would definitely want to see this feedback if I was going to pay a vendor $30 for something that's essentially worthless.


[1 Points] CentralCoppingAgency:

Negative.
He lied to you and it will be impossible to have a trusting relationship with this vendor going forward given what we know right now. Other buyers need to know he can't be trusted.

However, you should definitely contact him and ask what's going on and give him the opportunity to make things right. This whole thing could be explained by something as simple as inadvertently shipping it priority instead of express, or confusing the order with someone else, etc. That's fine in my book, but what I don't understand is why he lied to you. You were going to find out when he shipped the package and it clearly wasn't overnight, so lying doesn't really get him anything. To me, this is a huge red flag and speaks to a complete lack of respect for buyers and competence. You have a responsibility to other buyers and the community, especially if he is selling illegally manufactured drugs that are often cut and his lies could land a naive buyer in the hospital, or goes on to pull an exit scam. It really is the buyer feedback that provides legitimacy to the DNMs and allows use to reliably get our products.

If after contacting him, he offers to refund your order, I would give him either a Neutral or Negative review, depending on whether or not he has an great excuse as to why he lied to you. Even though it's a small lie, and the pack still came in 3 days(pretty fast for my orders to a large east coast city), this guy is dangerous and cannot be trusted if he offers to explanation. With a full refund but no explanation of the lie, I may still give him a negative review, since he is at least incompetent. Anything less than that, negative all the way. Also, add his vendor name and market to this thread, which arguably will go further than feedback on the market.

Anyway, I'm glad I'm not in your position, and would feel responsible for not warning people of his dishonesty and lack of vendor skills if he goes on and exit scams or if someone gets hurt from his product.


[0 Points] ksmith444:

If you're not strapped for cash and don't fear retaliation definitely rat that fucker out