where can I get this?
4-MAR
where can I get this?
[3 Points] None:
[2 Points] robamaway:
One pot synthesis of 4-methylaminorex (Rated as: excellent)
Further exploration of an initial suggestion by Rhodium - to perform both the preparation of the carbamoyl norephedrine as well as its cyclization to trans-4-MAR in one pot gave the following results:
Theory: When the initial norephedrine hydrochloride is mixed with potassion cyanate, it forms the carbamoyl coumpound in near quantitatie yeilds with respect to the norephedrine. The original patent's uses a slight molar excess of the cyanate in order to give complete conversion. When the first reaction is done, there should thus be a mixture of: N-carbamoyl-norephedrine, potassiumchloride and traces of of cyanate. The remaining cyanate will be destroyed by the huge excess of acid which will be added later. In the end these impurities should have no influence of the ring formation, catalysed by the acid. It should in theory be possible to do the initial reaction and simply add the acid in one portion while heating continusouly till the reaction is over. With this in mind, it seems kind of a waste to isolate the intermediate, so this has to be tested :)
Practice:(in theory of course) 5 grammes of norephedrine.HCl(26,5 mmoles), was placed in a 100 mL FBF, and 2,3 grammes of KOCN(28,4 mmoles) and 25 mL's of distilled water was immediately added in succession. This was heated to reflux directly on the hotplate for two hours.
After this time, 30 mL's of 2M HCl(60 mmoles) was added. This caused a bit of bubbling(probably from the excess cyanate being broken down to gasseus -i-cant-remember-what-). Reflux was continued for an additional two hours. The mixture took on an ever so slight pinkish tint, which the "old" synth also tend to do at this stage.
After 2½ hours of reflux, the mixture was cooled and basified with sodium carbonate and presto a lot of pretty white crystals precipitated on the bottom of the beaker. The yeild looked like that which is expected from the normal reaction.
[1 Points] Clubsoda25:
If you find it, let me know.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stims/comments/2w65cp/any_thing_even_comparable_to_the_king_if_stims
Check the post by avtomat
[1 Points] None:
I've also been looking for it, I'd appreciate a heads up if you find somewhere.
[1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:
This is that fool Uncle Fester's fault. Nobody is quite sure that they had it. It was probably crystal meth.
I'm almost tempted to make some of this urban legend, but the only recipes are on lyceum and other sites where none of the methods ever work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylaminorex
It looks like the research chemical 4 -ETHYL aminorex may be available.
4-MAR sounds more like a smokeable mephedrone, effects-wise, with more buzzy serotonin effects.
[1 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:
You can make it yourself. That's about the only way you'll ever have a hope of trying it. Nobody produces it in any sort of commercial quantities and even fewer people sell it when they do make it.
You can't.