How safe are our details with vendors?

Just curious to know if a vendor is found out and law enforcement seize all their items what happens to any information the vendor has on his customers? If, for example, the vendor has labels printed with his customers name and address and LE find these labels, do they then chase up these customers? The same thing with emails containing sensitive information on customers? Would appreciate any insight into this. Thanks.


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[7 Points] NotGCHQBro:

While I agree that it's usually the case that LE won't go after small fish and are interested in bigger things it's not always the case. LE cares about statistics not just big cases and since when have any authorities been known for ethically appropriating resources and money correctly?

It's not exactly LE or dnm related but here's a story from westminster in london. There was a barber shop in mayfair who became friends with a local who was only in town for 1-3 months a year and this person let the barber use his westminster parking permit and register his car to that address. Westminster council then spent £500 million on tracking him down and proving he lived elsewhere using council cctv to follow him on his 18 mile drive to and from work every day for 4-6 months. They brought him to court and thankfully the judge threw the case out citing a waste of taxpayer £££ and saying this is not what CCTV is allowed to be used for.

The moral of that story is authorities no matter who don't care about the miss allocation of resources and often spend fuck loads on pointless matters


[3 Points] None:

Im guessing theyd start looking into if the vendor was dealing bulk to anyone. And if so then possibly paying attention to the bulk buyers. Theres too many personal amount buyers for them to waste time chasing. I would think anyways


[3 Points] UDNM:

It depends, they might go after customers ordering bulk for resale.


[3 Points] helenahandcart:

It depends where in the world you are and the resources available to your local LE. They still have to examine the realistic likelihood of securing a conviction; so unless they have tangible proof of bulk orders, chasing users would be a tedious process representing little value in terms of a successful prosecution outcome.

It's not worth the effort to go after personal amounts.


[2 Points] sapiophile:

Those details are as safe as the vendor works to make them, which is probably, unfortunately, not enough.

Best practices for a vendor:

Alas, there is nobody, anywhere, that can verify whether or not a vendor is practicing these kinds of things - we only have to take their word for it. When Boosie5150's customers got doxxed a little while ago, it was because Boosie5150 wasn't following these guidelines. Following these best practices is annoying, and a hindrance, to any vendor, and so they have incentives to cut corners. This is really unfortunate.


[2 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

We don't keep anybody's details, unless you're clever enough to insist.

Nobody believes it for some reason, but what are we going to do with them? No good can come of it. Its just evidence of dealing.

However, if we send tracked mail, we need to keep the ticket for 2 days in the UK in case a package doesn't arrive (we can post at 5PM and have orders delivered anywhere in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales by 9AM the next day for $30, or 1PM for $10.

Its very shocking for us to read about US customers waiting 4 or 5 days for their order to arrive. I once had a customer refuse to pay because he ordered on Wednesday and he didn't receive it until Friday because there was a post office strike on the day I posted it!

I have some customers whove been buying regularly from me since Silk Road 1, they still seem surprised that they have to give me the same details each time, like they think I will have them written down somewhere. One said "write ny name and address down somewhere, for god's sake! Why do I have to keep encrypting the same information 30 times a year? That's 29 unnecessary risks!"

To summarize:- We don't keep your details. But if you use the same vendor many times, he will add you to his christmas card list next to his mum if yiu ask him nicely.

Its slightly more risk for him, but much safer for you to keep your details off the net.