Curious - Cops Tossing Your House

Hey,

Not looking for hypothetical but wanted to see if there was any solid information out there, preferably from someone who has experienced a raid or knows how they are conducted. To what degree do they flip your house? Do they take any x-ray type shit to look through stuff? I have a few layers of "physical" opsec that I hope would offer some protection in the event of a raid or my house being searched. I've done some things on my house that I think would be good should this event ever happen. I don't at all expect it to happen, but was wondering a "just in case" scenario. How much time do they spend looking through all of your shit?

But I have no idea, aside from the movies, how searches are conducted.

Just as an aside: I'm paranoid by nature, so I tend to always operate under the assumption that something has gone wrong. My house is always clean, and if not completely clean, its clean in such a way it'll be clean from a search (hence the reason for my question). I discard of any DNM remnants, things like envelopes, packaging, immediately, discreetly, and completely destroyed. My computers are all encrypted, difficult password, plus use Tails for anything market related. I believe we should try to operate like this as much as possible. Oftentimes, if we do get a visit and a knock, it won't be announced ahead of time - it'll come as a complete surprise. We can't get too lazy and leave shit laying around b/c most of the time you won't even know its coming.


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[3 Points] cindelle2:

I once watched a raid take place from the beginning at an apt complex several yrs ago. watched several LE arrive quietly early in the morning with a large video camera. Someone who wasnt wearing a uniform was recording on it. both marked and unmarked cars ranging from local le to fed dea. they spent a little while quietly grouping together outside of their vehicles which were parked in a rear parking lot. drug dogs barked in the cars of some of the agents. couldnt hear what they were saying but the people they wanted lived on an upper floor so perhaps they were discussing their entrance method? The unmarked man was recording the entire time following them. they spoke together for a while it seemed and then very quietly walked in single file (including the cameraman) to the apt door which had the first entrance on the lower level. Saw a bunch of hand movements then they stood in silence for a few seconds. then the silence was broken by a thunderous sound of the lower door being bashed and the officers stormed up the stairs. Then the screaming started. "This is the Police get your hands up! Police, get on the ground now! Get on the ground! Dont move!" I heard some women screaming and what sounded like struggling. I heard things being thrown and smashed. Then some of the officers came out and retrieved the anxiously barking dogs. They were brought into the apt. Heard some more yelling that sounded like the police. Things like "where is it?" and "Dont fucking move" I heard from inside the apt. It seemed like a long time but eventually 3 people, 2 men and one woman came out in handcuffs. The cameraman walked in front pointing the camera at them while they walked to the cop cars. 2 were put into one car and the man was put into a separate car. The women were crying. The cars with those arrested left and several others remained. Eventually the remaining officers and the dogs came out. The officers were carrying large plastic see- through bags filled with things. I saw a laptop, a desktop, some kitchen wear and other things were hard to see. Probably 3 bags I saw them carrying. The cameraman walked over to them and began recording them carrying the bags and putting them into their cars. The remaining officers congregated again but was more brief and constantly being recorded by the unmarked cameraman. After a bit they left. Later I was told that the apt was trashed. completely busted including the ceiling which is where I was told they were hiding things. Not sure what the outcome of the raid was but it was damn interesting to watch.


[2 Points] lagunitas83:

and btw x-ray!!? WTF unless homeland LE is kicking your door in there is no way local LE's have the access to that sh*t.


[2 Points] Sped_monk:

Been at a buddies house when it got raided for being a suspected trap house. They litteraly tore the place up while me and 6 friends were sitting on the couch in handcuffs. Drawers were flipped up side down. Looked inside every solo cup that they came across. Looked in the ceiling. Cloths were off the hanger, beds turned upside down. All with dogs going through everything. Was litteraly one of the most scary events in my life to date. All those fuckers found was a half g of some old bud that they had lost and took them to jail for that. Gotta love the south.


[1 Points] None:

You forgot to add: asking for a friend.


[1 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

Unless they have a specific reason to, they won't break out the x-ray scanners and ground penetrating radar. When a raid on a house takes place, what they'll do is come in and round everybody up and get them all under control and in one place so they can question everybody. then they'll go through doing a cursory sweep for any contraband items (bongs, guns, whatever...) that might be out in the open. next, they'll bring in a k-9 unit to sniff around dressers, cabinets, boxes, furniture, etc. if the k-9 hits on something, they investigate that item further (cutting open couch cushions, flipping matresses, unrolling your socks, etc.). if you have something that you shouldn't be having in the house, chances are the k-9 will alert to it if a cop doesn't find it himself. odds are they probably wouldn't be x-raying your sewer pipes or anything like that, but you never know.

source: i was living in the upstairs unit of a two-family residence when the bottom unit got raided for suspected narcotics distribution.


[1 Points] lagunitas83:

bro there is no real way to be 100 percent tight- Expect them to be in your face and all that reside there. If you have decent spots I have seen dogs walk right past 'em. I grew up in a very urban envio so LE WAS SUPER AGGRESSIVE. Everything is relative to where you live. Exploit the obvious weaknesses- trust me its a game for them as much its a real ass sit for us.


[1 Points] road_laya:

I really like the book "how to hide anything". But don't keep shit in your home.


[1 Points] mrsmuse:

Preface: IDK if this counts as a "RAID" but here goes... My bf told me if we ever got "the knock" to shut the laptop and put hands on head and then don't look cuz they would prob shoot the dogs. 😢 But when he shot himself, EMS came first. Drugs were in plain view so I alerted them. Unified drug task force whatever unit came, no dogs, took out the drugs (weed in canisters and Tupperware full of "I don't know, officer...") I had told them about; (overlooked a few others), left Rx bottles without labels full of Valium, etc... And with various named Rx bottles of Adderall, all in the sock drawer. Didn't toss outdrawers or master bedroom where it happened, cursory sweep of bathroom left vaporizer next to sink and pipe in cabinet. Left TWO laptops but tossed my purse and took $$,$$$... Mysteriously $5k short on inventory sheet! Took new vehicle! They found the basement (very unusual to have one down South) and went nuts over lab equip. Automatically called it a meth lab and some guys from big city 100mi away came and took lots of stuff, mostly chemicals like ether and chloroform, etc... Tossed daughters futon mattress over and left drawers/ closet intact. Nothing messed up in kitchen. Only when the landlord complained 2days later that they LEFT misc lab equip and chemicals (acetone, buckets of ??, etc) AND he opened his dead tenant's mail from Amsterdam w/ 2oz of a "substance" did they come back w/ a biohazard company. Tested everything before going into buckets then disposal. Still missed some stuff on 2nd trip AND refused to take PC, routers, etc... They mentioned " Silk Road" to me and said they only knew 25% as much about computers as my dead fiancé (read: "so why bother?") They saw large amts of packing material but left it all. Didn't bother looking into PO boxes as far as I know. That's about it. **oh, btw -- 5 dogs were outside, because of me being in shock etc they let me cage my oldest dog and officers were very nice to animals. I was at police station for 5hrs cuz in the confusion I accidentally erased my iPhone. Someone was on phone w/ me when shot happened and since I thought he was just into chemistry, had never seen a little room with chemicals, etc they let me go back to house to get the rest of my things. They put a note on door that "watch out, chemicals were found here" but nothing about pools of blood everywhere... Very surreal. Blood still there 2wks later. 😖


[0 Points] None:

FFS, don't answer the door. hide quietly. For a good education, watch Burn Notice.