Has anyone here actually been caught?

So I am wondering if anyone who isn't a larger kingpin or dealer has been caught? I am talking about a few bags of DMT being ordered by an asian dude with no criminal record at all and even if they searched my entire place they would most likely find nothing (thats me)

I have read in the news of people getting caught ordering/stashing/selling pounds of MDMA and heroin etc. But a few pills of E seems to be what the average DNM user is interested in. I have "heard" about people getting caught. But I feel that this is not a reliable method to get information. I mean I "heard" that dropping acid three times makes you legally insane. And that is bullshit I could give a million examples but the point is, "hearing" things on the street esp with it comes to drugs is a poor way to get accurate info.

I was wondering if anyone on this subreddit either has been caught, or knows someone personally who has been caught?

Where they a convicted felon? What amount were they ordering? What mistakes did they make?

I just feel that its too much to try and track some smalltime junkie

And if it really came down to it, they have no real evidence? A package with my name on showed up in my private mail box? So...? I use this mailbox for legit purposes?

I mean I personally feel it would be pretty hard to nab someone like that my buddy told me that a man showed up at his doorstep asking for "bryan simpson" or some nonsense name when he ordered a package to his house. This was the fake name he ordered the package under. The man was dressed in mail attire and came on a day when there clearly was no mail that day. His mail attire was a little off and he felt that this dude was def an undercover cop. This was for a tiny amount of LSD. Like 5 hits or something

I am wondering how the hell they even tracked it. Or more importantly why they would put that much effort into one person?


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[72 Points] o82:

I've been caught few years ago, ordered small amount (around 1g) of MDMA from Netherlands (first mistake - packages from NL are highly monitored), then second mistake - I did not used encryption for my address. I guess seller may be caught, because he got very positive feedback, I ordered from him bbefore and it was alright, then after this situation his feedback went very low. They not proved me that it was my package, but they made research in my house. LSD landed in toilet and I gave them all of my RCs. They taken my phone and computer for half year but after they returned they looked like even not used. Anyway end of the story is police forgived me, after two years I got letter from sanitary that they checked in the lab my RCs and it was AM-2201 on 50g of plant material, they accused me for placing this on the market and threatened me to pay $120k fine. However they had waived this. Keep in mind that this not happen in US and I was little underage. P.S if you want to buy DMT it's much more safe and fun to extract it on your own. Really easy and much cheaper. Keep safe guys :-)


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[23 Points] None:

I don't think many people get caught who are ordering personal amounts, provided that they have decent OPSEC and their vendor has halfway decent stealth. You have to think about how many tens of millions of pieces of mail get processed every day and the chances of your package being singled out is infinitesimally small. I think your typical DNM bust is some doofus ordering a thousand ecstasy pills from the Netherlands and customs hits on it who then notifies law enforcement. That or somebody rats them out.


[15 Points] trippingBaseballs:

LSD 3 times and you're legally insane?

Shit. It used to be 7 like thirty years ago...


[13 Points] dankrussian:

You're more likely to be caught if you order and resell shit in person. Like someone already commented all it takes is for someone to have a bad reaction and have the cops get involved. Once they rat on you its pretty much over.


[13 Points] Mrbiggss:

Got busted for half a boat of E, still awaiting trial. Don't ever order from NL, ever.


[8 Points] cashadava:

I posted this about 4 months ago. I am in the US. It should give you some perspective.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4d3iyx/my_controlled_delivery_how_i_fucked_up/?sort=confidence


[6 Points] bird-biotic:

This is an interesting question - /u/gwern has incredible research obviously. He does note in his table (specifically US related proceedings) that the list is not exhaustive.

He mentions how list is not exhaustive and among the reasons are that some things are sealed and not available on PACER, etc. Pacer seems to deal only with federal court proceedings and not state ( I believe?). It would seem USPS federal mail violations would mean the case would go automatically through the federal system but is that always the case? Attorneys are cool and know these things. hehe.

Anyway, there have got to be a lot more CDs or more that are going down and the people are smart enough or advised by attorneys to obviously not discuss this information on the internet. Its lke an act of mercy and true "darknet morality" if you are inot that Hippie Plur idealism to post on here after this. But who in their right mind would do that facing a federal felony with mandatory minimum sentencing?

One unique thing that stands out in Gwern's research through 2015 among the arrests in USA involves the heavy arrest of buyers related to XanaxKing. Theree were like 30-50.
This is unique for law enforcement to sweep the country like this in DNM publicly known prosecutions for buyers. Well, at least this certainly stands out in Gwern's research and is consistent with the sparse media reporting. I am almost certain (not like I know obviously) that not all the CD's and buyer arrests that were directly linked from the XanaxKing cooperation were delivered to individuals ordering only bulk trafficking quantities. There were some small-town paper reports of little dweeb like sweet almost looking teenagers getting popped for 15 pills. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think XanaxKing was marketing small amounts as well as bulk, or if he was then this would support the assumption.

Law Enforcement was definitely making a statement to buyers with this aggressive approach but it seems it has not exactly been repeated since. Maybe there is internal agency dispute over how to divide resources as funding grows and the surveillance and Fusion centers grow more sophisticated. There may be more dollars thrown around to go the extra mile but then there must be multiple budget request concerns.

Another issue involved here is just the unknowns involved as stated above with case sealings, state prosecutions, etc. etc. Or even the cases that may go elsewhere outside of PAcer or some other database in the event a CD is successfully beaten and the charges dropped or thrown out. There is one story of an IT guy who seemed pretty sophisticated in how he handled his dealding and who ordered a personal amount and got off.


[5 Points] Nopenopenopeabc123:

I got caught. I can't say much, because my court trial is ongoing. To put it simply, I was moving about 100 grams of MDMA per month, imported from a safe country. The police never did find evidence that I was actually ordering drugs through the mail, but a guy I trusted snitched on me and got away with nothing.

They slandered me on every newspaper in the area. I lost my job. I lost a lot of friends. If I could do it all again, I'd just simply say the money wasn't worth it.

I'm looking at a large number of felony charges, and the DA doesn't want to give me any kind of deal at all. Odds are good that I'm going to prison for a few years. So much for that 8 years of college, eh?


[4 Points] kali_linux:

I've been around since SR1 and have moved multiple times throughout the same city (college student). I never ordered to a dorm and always either used my home address or a PO Box with my real name, never a fake.

I've never been caught or had any problems aside from the rare USPS fuckup which required me to pick up an express back years ago at the PO. I don't order express anymore though as the risks still outweigh any potential benefits for me, but to each his own.


[3 Points] twotoethomas:

I was Charged of trafficking every schedule of drug in certain country (+5kg) amounts and was lookin at 8 years but got relatively lenient punishment as I am a young person


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[3 Points] finalfantasybrownies:

Ordered a 2 grams of speed paste from NL. Caught and tested for meth at the boarder. No cops involved, just a love letter from the boarder.


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[2 Points] bobbiggs69:

There was, I believe, a reseller that came on here a while back and did an AMA. He got busted and went to jail. I think he was actually a veteran of the Topix scene. I wish I could remember more, but maybe search Topix on this sub. We don't talk about Topix all that much.


[2 Points] trappstep:

I used to hang with a guy that would make shake and bake Meth. He'd sell it on the deep web. He got caught eventually.


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[1 Points] Neophyte-:

not caught but i got a call from the cops. i had ordered 1g of MXE from the netherlands (never do that) i knew at the time not to but the country of origin was not listed. The cops gave me a call telling me that drugs had been intercepted in the mail to my address. I told them that i knew nothing about it, and he said all good the drugs will be destroyed, and i said thats good to hear.

I think he was just hoping for an easy conviction and i would do something stupid like admit it. months later i got a love letter saying 1 gram of an unidentified substances had been destroyed.

so they couldnt even identify it, that was something interesting.


[1 Points] organichewn:

I got caught a bit more than 6 months ago for a couple of E pills from NL (never order from NL). Had a meeting with my country DEA, denied everything, but still got a $1k+ fine. Sent a letter to the police saying I was contesting the fine because they don't have any evidence, and I'm still waiting for an answer.

I'll probably have to see a judge and tell them the same story I told the DEA, and that will be it. Or maybe I'll have to pay the fine, it's not much anyway.


[1 Points] somanyroads:

Bottom line: if you're worried about the risk of arrest, then don't take that risk. The risk is likely lower than getting in a car accident...but everyone's mileage will vary (literally, in that metaphor).


[1 Points] FunnyTrips:

very, very close but the only busts ive had with LE were IRL and not DNM. never busted with any DNM products either, only ganja

I was interviewed during Operation Onymous though (call me a liar all you want, if I still had the business card the agent left me, I would censor the dox info and post for proof. I had absolutely zero ties to ANY admins in either of the original SRs - thought for sure I was done for because why else would they be wanting to talk?.. I had a pretty heavy presence on the OG SR forums and maybe even SR2 as well (under another alias, DUH), I really don't remember. little did I know that the feds I spoke with back then knew about as much about BTC and TOR/DNMs as I know about working a 9-5 and paying taxes!! someone I used to goto university with had been busted and attempted to lessen his charges by giving information on me - they had no warrant, no solid evidence, nothing really, it was a fishing trip and since that day I have had no contact with LE

scary shit was they definitely, definitely hacked Tor whenever SR2 was infiltrated and the feds were able to obtain IPs from even basic users. when they told me this I laughed - saying the entire point of Tor was to mask the IPs of its users, well then they showed me a paper with an IP address associated with one of my identities accessing the SR2 onion link! whether or not this was made up or real, I still don't know but it took me years to get over that day... no word since. will I ever import again? hell no. I can handle local LE all day but the feds... fuck no


[1 Points] junckerhere:

isn't /u/dnm_cunt still in prison?


[1 Points] kali_linux:

I hear you. Yeah, I've had to pick up packs like the front desk when I had the smaller box. After the first few times picking it up from an employee who knew my box my number, the anxiety was controlled.

The first time I did it though I thinks my hands were slightly trembling to say nothing of what I felt like inside .


[1 Points] PM_ME_BOOB_PICTURES_:

I haven't been caught, but I did get a letter once about an investigation on drug offences from the police. It was probably from some LSD that didn't arrive many months ago. The letter said they closed the case because of lack of evidence, and while their investigation had been going I had ordered tons of stuff that made it through without issue. I never got a call or anything. Just a mail about it being closed, but never about it being started.

I should mention, though, that I live in Norway, so this might not be the case in your country.


[0 Points] ForLol_Serious:

I'm sure lots of people have been caught, they just don't post about it on reddit. Or they do post about it but the mods delete the posts.


[-10 Points] free-agent:

I got caught once, she had me finish in her mouth.