The Perfect Crime?

What's to prevent someone from becoming a USPS mail carrier, then ordering large (or regular) amounts of narcotics on DNMs addressed to real houses/ people on their route, then simply ganking the packages when they arrive to their carrier truck?

I'm thinking this would be for a larger operation that would be willing to invest the time to get a member of said organization to actually get a job with USPS.

If it was just a two person operation, an accomplice in a car could just pull up when the carrier parks his mail truck, take the packages and be on their way - the labeled recipient being none the wiser.

This seems like one way to import larger amounts of contraband without direct risk to the carrier. Of course, IF flags are ever raised before the packages reach the USPS truck, then the carrier might be implicated.

Maybe I'm overlooking something, but this seems like it could possibly work if done with some discretion. Just a random thought, I have zero interest in actually trying to pull something this ridiculous off.


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[39 Points] TheWireNZ:

I don't think some of you get it - what he means is the USPS worker orders the drugs to houses on his route (so the people at the house aren't expecting a package). Then when the USPS worker sees the package he ordered / is expecting - he nabs it and hands it off to a friend or keeps it to the end of his run.

This virtually means unlimited drop addresses. Although in my country (I don't know if it's different in US) there are some things that would prevent this from happening. Postal workers have there runs changed weekly/fortnightly so they're not doing the same run continuously. The other factor would be that postal workers carry a GPS system for non arrivals and mail disputes - Especially for packages that would need to be signed the courier would have to go right up to the houses door, sign the thing himself and mark the tracking.

Although it's worked and a method I've used before!


[18 Points] None:

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[19 Points] youtakesally:

The hardest part is selling, not receiving the drugs.


[9 Points] shadowofashadow:

Great idea. Biggest risk I can think of is it ending up on someone else's truck. But then you are still not connected to it so you're probably safe.


[7 Points] MartyButz:

Carriers work 5 days a week with a rotating day off. Mail gets delivered 6 days a week so on one of those days the regular carrier is not workng. That would be the day your package came through. Serious flaw in the plan.


[8 Points] ShulginsCat:

I like it.

It's so simple I would imagine that a few carriers are doing this as we speak. If you don't do anything stupid I can't see a reason why this wouldn't work.


[5 Points] FrostyPlum:

You have to scan packages as being delivered, or else they know something is up. If you put down someone else's address, if they never find out there's been tons of shit sent to them but they haven't been getting it, you'd be fine, but they might find out for just some random reason, and then you're definitely getting your records looked at

source: ups driver's helper


[7 Points] None:

This could work if you are willing to take the risk of sending all your packages to one area in a city, where you know this person has his route so he can intercept them. The problem I see with that is you are consolidating your packages towards a single point in the network instead of spreading them out by sending them to different places. A plus to this method is you could find out the weak point in the network and abuse it by having someone work there.


[5 Points] Explore411:

Seems legit.. heck you might even be asked to do a controlled delivery, but keep it hush hush ok ? don't want to spook the suspect!


[5 Points] MrCrappy57:

I like the way this guy thinks. Of course, it would all fall apart when he got sick for a couple days or forgot a package and something got reported and yadda yadda yadda belize. How about this slight modification: you get a job at one of those Mailboxes places and open a bunch of fake mailboxes. Order away good sir. And if you are sick or miss a few days who gives a shit, you are the one checking it anyway. Only prob is there is prob security video and if package ever got seized/investigated they would see YOU checking the box.


[4 Points] ethly:

This has been tried before.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/Nunez,%20Christina%20and%20Vega,%20Luis%20Arrest%20News%20Release.html


[4 Points] None:

I think we could argue about anything on here....

Water...no apple juice...fk u noob orange guava mango bitch.


[5 Points] hardych1:

It might be hard to sort through the packages and know which one is yours given the quality of stealth and the sheer volume of junk mail.


[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] cggreene2:

Bit scummy though if something went wrong, and then the person who had nothing to do with any of it, may have to face the consequences


[3 Points] vereonix:

But this still has the risks of actually transporting them across country in the first place where they could be detected at at any point. To go to the effort of implant a person in the USPS is silly, as what you want it for just one part of a city, or do you plan to go full Fight Club and infiltrate every USPS in every city, nah mate, here what you do.

If you're this serious you make your own transport organisation, and move goods across country yourself. Possible even make an entire company to disguises it, that would also function as a way to launder the money.

Of course this way requires money, but you need to spend money to make money, and its the better solution in the long run. As with your idea, if any law enforcement try to track these deliveries and they don't turn up at the house they'll eventually narrow it down. Especially if they catch the good at an earlier point and bug it.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] slicksr:

Postal workers have been stealing real mail for centuries. And they do get caught out. Now I realise this one was called out because customers complained about missing mail which is obviously not happening in the case above. But if a customer reports a separate incident, the postal worker is investigated and he is seen taking mail where he shouldn't be, i.e. home at the end of the shift, he would not just be jeopardising his freedom, he would also lose his job, and potentially by holding the packaged goods in transit, may be charged with dealing rather than just receiving.

Far more risky than just delivering home or to a drop with a potentially worse outcome, and you risk CCTV evidence, further charges and more people looking to catch you out. Not worth it in my eyes.


[2 Points] None:

What is my perfect crime? I break into Tiffany's at midnight. Do I go for the vault? No, I go for the chandelier. It's priceless. As I'm taking it down, a woman catches me. She tells me to stop. It's her father's business. She's Tiffany. I say no. We make love all night. In the morning, the cops come and I escape in one of their uniforms. I tell her to meet me in Mexico, but I go to Canada. I don't trust her. Besides, I like the cold. Thirty years later, I get a postcard. I have a son and he's the chief of police. This is where the story gets interesting. I tell Tiffany to meet me in Paris by the Trocadero. She's been waiting for me all these years. She's never taken another lover. I don't care. I don't show up. I go to Berlin. That's where I stashed the chandelier.


[1 Points] None:

Oh, that's kind of superfluous...


[1 Points] MyceliumEarth:

What if the labeled recipient happened to order something else around the same time? I doubt they'd be happy to see their letter/package was opened...


[1 Points] ScorchedTerran:

If an enterprise had the resources to do what you are suggesting, they would be doing it to secure their high volume of Drugs, no? In which case they wouldn't need to go to that length of subterfuge because they already have the money to possess a fleet of USPS vehicles that weren't actually USPS vehicles, you follow? Which brings me a step further to your idea: IF you were just One person, you could purchase and fixup/repaint/etc a USPS truck/ FedEx/UPS van and BoOm. United Trafficking Services is born.


[1 Points] None:

Sure, you have eliminated one risk - but the financial risk from having your package seized is still a big one.


[1 Points] its_not_me_promise:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/texas-mail-man-delievering-meth-years-police-article-1.2019276?utm_content=buffer82b3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=NYDN+Facebook

Close to what you were talking about. He was dealing from the truck though


[0 Points] GeronimoHero:

Yeah you're over looking something. Many people like myself have it setup to be emailed whenever a package is set to arrive at my address. That's right, even if I don't order something but it is set to be shipped to my address I'll get a notification. That would cause problems pretty fast.


[0 Points] Xf3k:

Please remove this post.


[-1 Points] None:

It's possible but the problem is "hey my package didn't arrive" edit: I see, good luck.


[-1 Points] 1ReviewReviewer1:

It's really easier then you think. It would be insanely easy to get away with a handful of missing packages (as far as stealing other peoples orders) and still maintain your job no problem, I'd go so far to say with no disciplinary consequences as well. Now it blurs the line between 'mistake' and 'problem' the more frequently you do it, and how aggressive you do it. But as far as that first time, 1 - 3 packages (which could be nice if you properly swipe the big order) your still keeping your job, and it wouldn't be hard to exploit that to work in your favor. Without breaking it down, just say 'by exploiting the already shitty system in play'. Especially for the Union jobs. (USPS/UPS) before non union like Fedex.

This is when it comes to package theft in general, and not even including the fact that all the missing packages in this case contained drugs. Drugs you know where in there and drugs the shipper/buyer knows was in there. So if your confidently safe swiping a legit package from like Amazon, who has all the reason and resources to actively pursue an "investigation", then it should no doubt be all the more safer when there is no active means to pursue an "investigation" on the DNM's end.

Hell, this is for straight up theft. Once you start getting the product out and delivering empty packages does it get real consistent and absolutely no fear of consequences from USPS or your job security.

"My drug packages are arriving with the drugs missing, and I suspect its the delivery driver stealing them!" doesn't hold much water as a throw away statement that you'd never want to bring up, nor could you back it up with facts if you were bold enough to do anything other then just let it go.

All those orders from first/second/third time new customers to a vendor would definitely start to believe the vendor screwed them over with an empty package. It's without a doubt the most plausible explanation. 'The mailman could be extorting me' wouldn't even make the top 5 list of Plausible Reasons IMO. Probably wouldn't even make the top 10 in fact.

All of this could easily be done, but wouldn't, because this is all just good harmless fun discussion! We would never risk any losses to both Buyer and Seller for personal gain.