Quittin dope with subs?

Ive been a sniffer for around a year now, Doing at least a gram every week or two. Only in the last few weeks was i actually able stop using for an entire week while scraping by on loritabs. It was rough but i didnt have terrible symptoms it just wasnt fun. So im considering ordering subs to try to taper off and say goodbye to mr brownstone for a while. What advice do you have for dosage / ordering / What to look for in vendors and what to avoid? Any info will help and i really appreciate it. And im aware of the 24-48 hr rule for stopping dope and starting subs.


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[4 Points] GreenSnapper2120:

I was just at a RE-hab where they used subs to detox. This is how they did it. Day 1: you got 3 2mg subs spaced out throughout the first 24hrs. Day 2: you got 4 2mg subs in a 24hr period. Day 3: you got 3 2mg subs in the 24hr period. Day 4: you got 2 2mg subs in the 24hr period. Day 5: 1 2mg sub in the 24hr period. Day 6: 1 2mg sub in that last 24hr period. After your last sub, you'll feel a lil crappy for 3-4 days. Day 2 off of the subs is the worst, but it's NOTHING like being door sick. After day 2, you will just start to feel better day by day. But the worst thing of all, is that it is hard to sleep. So try to get some sleep meds. N MAKE SURE YOU STAY HYDRATED! A nurse told me that just from breathing, your body good through a gallon of water a day! So please just drink as much water as you can. It helps your body to process the poison out a lot quicker. Same with eating. I know you won't want to, but just try to eat some soup n crackers. It helps. I hope this helps. I'm literally starting this same detox tomorrow morning. So if you need any help or info with your detox, feel free to PM me. I'm always down with helping out another addict get his/her life back. Good luck! There is hope! ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT!


[2 Points] eucryptic1:

Look into kratom as suboxone is 40x stronger than morphine and will just end up being another monkey on your back.


[2 Points] ChasingTracers:

I can't give you advice on suboxone but i wanted to comment anyways to wish luck on your path to quitting bro. I totally believe anyone should be able to ingest any chemical they want without being looked down on, but i watched heroin fuck up a lot of lives of people i cared for, including taking my cousins life. Good on you for reaching out for help dude you fuckin got this, keep fighting the fight my nigga


[2 Points] PierceArrow02:

If I've been on any sort of binge longer than a couple weeks, let alone a year...I would 1. Order strips only as they can be cut down to literally 1/16ths(and I've heard people do 32 as well) and still give that actual dose you've just cut it to. Again at my stage of maybe a month long binge I'll start the first day or two(at most) with half a strip, then move down to 3mg, couple days on that dose, down to two where I might stay for 4 or 5 days to a week. Then move to 1mg and again go for maybe a week. You can see where I'm going with this, the lower doses I try to stay on for a little longer to stabilize, but long story short I usually try to make this whole process take less than 3 or 4 weeks max as ALL I've heard from any of my friends on long term sub treatment is the w/d's coming off them are fairly unpleasant themselves so I also will usually grab a few alp bars to help me sleep cause that will surely be difficult more than a few times throughout this process and those will at least allow you some sleep. Others do it different, I try to not get stuck on sub strips for too long because of what I've seen my own friends go through. Thing is you've been going a whole year. So maybe double my estimates, start off with a whole strip? see how that does ya first. One thing I'll also add, I only did this ONCE when going through this sub regimen and that was taking some random(as in I just can't remember the name) blood pressure meds a buddy gave me, took the sweats away which is fucking awesome cause you can be alright, and not hurting really on subs but still getting hot flashes like a mother fucker so maybe look into that also. The only other thing I've done that helps me too is that first day or two(ESPECIALLY day 1) can be NOT fun switching over, but I would usually save a point or two, I smoke though, for after I took the sub. I'd take the strip piece, wait 45 min or so for it to start kicking in, then smoke maybe a point or two if I started feeling like ass; this would totally take the edge off and by then the subs in your system and at least you shouldn't wake up feeling like shit the next morning and taking the sub from then on shouldn't be so bad. Everyone is different and I've totally noticed some of my heavier using friends have a bit more trouble doing this. One in particular will usually wait 24 hours after last smoking to take his sub(fuck that, I wait 14 max) and he STILL seems to have precip w/d's, which I kinda think is just in his head but whatever and if I was in your spot...to feel comfortable I would probably want anywhere from 8 to maybe even up to 13/14 strips to feel totally good about it, plus there is NOTHING wrong with having a few extras sitting round in case of a relapse. Best of luck man, its difficult but by no means impossible.


[2 Points] PushTheEnvelopiate:

There is no exact time you have to wait, it's different for everyone. Pretty much hold out as long as you can. Look up the COWS suboxone chart. That'll be a good guage of when to take it. They just say 24 hours as a safety net to catch most people, but a lot of people don't have to wait that long. I have taken it in as little at 9 or 10 hours and been fine. Doesn't mean you will though. Only you know your body.

You don't need to take 16mg of sub like some people do. With Suboxone, less is more. Start with 2mg, see how you feel. Wait an hour or so. Take more if you have to. I would send you free subs but I don't know how we'd facilitate that in a way that'd make you feel comfortable receiving a package from a redditor lol unless you have a drop.


[1 Points] SunnyBadlands:

Glad you made the decision to quit. Suboxone can be a wonderful thing if used correctly but, methadone is more frequented by heroin users than opioid users. Still there is no need in doing 2-3 pills/strips a day/wtfe the dosage is. I've been doing Subutex for 2yrs now & I still don't do over a whole one a day. Break off a little piece & that'll last you easily 4-5hrs. Check out grinder cards by V Syndicate. They shave the pills into perfect dust. Goodluck on your recovery bro

edit: vendor- JimmyJohnson on AB. Maybe spelled a tad bit different though but total stand up vendor.


[1 Points] technotardo:

I have a lot of experience with this. Start with 2 MG (1/4 of a strip). That should make you feel better in an hour or so. If you're still sick after say 1 1/2-2 hours take another 2 mg. Once you get well it should last at least a day. When you start feeling just a little sniffly and achy take a little more (2 mg ?). You wanna cut back every day and you should be done after 4-6 days. Much more than that and you'll be hooked on suboxone. The withdrawal isn't anywhere near as bad but it lasts a lot longer. I use suboxone for maintenance now but I've used it to get clean many times. Obviously I'm not able to stay clean. It's a vicious cycle. I can stay clean for months but always go back to my best friend. He's a real bastard. I decided to go with the lesser of two evils but you don't have to. You can get symptom free pretty quick. The mental part is up to you. I lost.


[1 Points] GreenSnapper2120:

N u dont need 24-48 hrs to take a sub. Just Google how long after shooting dope can you take a sub. It says like 12-18 hrs. N I have a habit worse than yours. When you start to get sick, take some. You don't have to be in full blown 1000% withdrawal to take a sub.