How could a vendor scam using escrow?

I was just wondering how or if vendors could scam buyers even while the order was using escrow. I'm new to this and high as shit so I'm probably getting paranoid.


Comments


[8 Points] select1on:

Send empty envelope.


[5 Points] NoStressScams:

This recently happened to me by vendor NoStress.

He shipped to a similar, but sufficiently incorrect address to have the package returned to sender as being undeliverable as addressed. Tracking showed attempted delivery of the package at a modified but sufficiently similar address/zipcode somewhat near to that in the shipping info such the package was returned to vendor's PO box citing no number at that address.

Vendor then claims that you gave him a bad address (like NoStress did). He may try to get you to place another order and FE that time (then you are out double money with no recourse) - this is what a customer new to the DNM may do. Or vendor might require shipping to another address (where he would later say that he again shipped correctly, and the receiver at new address simply did not give customer the package). Both scamming suggestions were required by NoStress for any resolution, FE and new shipping lol. Knowing what I'm doing, and that my shipping info is encrypted from the same file everytime, I was wise to NoStress' antics.

Vendor would collect the escrow by either hoping the customer is n00b enough to allow auto-finalize or be convinced to FE, or by convincing the market's resolution admins to release the entire escrow to the vendor, citing "bad address" or whatever vendor tries to claim that the customer did wrong. The less vendors in a market, the more likely the market's resolution will side with the vendor, especially if customer has little buying history.

In my case, NoStress lied to Abraxas resolution that I had provided a bad address and since I had few transactions on Abraxas, the case was resolved with entire escrow going to NoStress. Even though his reship/refund policy provides for at least a 50% refund in my case, NoStress kept the entire escrow, and thus scammed, whether he intentionally or negligently mislabeled the package, or whether it was USPS error.


[2 Points] Team3nvyHacking:

Fake product(s)


[2 Points] None:

Keep you waiting until the auto-finalize timer runs out. (two weeks on Agora, something like three days on alphabay?) Might have a high shipping cost and refund the product but not shipping. Where there's a will there's a scam...


[1 Points] hdheuud:

Very easy. Send "empty" packs to nearby addresses, have a pre-order sale, make up excuse after excuse on why it hasn't landed yet until orders auto finalize.

Escrow doesn't really mean shit. If they want your money, they can take it


[1 Points] theevoinsider:

In additional to what all of the above are saying RE empty packages, fake product, put yourself in the mods position (2 of 3 yeses are needed to release escrow funds, buyer, seller, market) are they gonna believe the vendor with a proven track record or the first time buyer


[1 Points] darknetpotter:

Selective scamming would be easy, especially if he targets new users. So, send some legit product, get reviews. Keep sending legit product but send no product to newer buyers. Newer buyers claim, legitimately, that they have no product but older buyers who get product are like 'no the vendor sent me real stuff 2 days ago, stop trying to ruin his rep, you're clearly just another vendor trying to kill competition since you've only been around for a week' etc.


[1 Points] None:

They could send you a bag of sugar instead of some RC and the buyer release the funds before they try it


[1 Points] None:

"i need you to finalize to refund you"