What happened to The Vault and The Cave DNM Forums?

From here https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/wiki/index/relevantsubs#wiki_related_.onion_forums.3A

The Cave: http://kwemv6xssdwyutoc.onion

The Vault: http://vault43z5vxy3vn3.onion/forum/

They are both not working and have been gone since months it seems.

Did they move?


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