Which market, damnit, which one?!

Libertas, Zion or Dream? I seem to be stuck in a huge shitty spot right now because of all the fuckery going around with BTC right now. From all I've gathered on this subreddit from recent posts, the one and only sensible decision would be switching to Monero. As far as I know, only Zion and Libertas support this cryptocurrency as of now and Libertas seems to be down pretty much constantly for days now. How are we supposed to put our trust into something like that? Zion seems sort of okay, but I wish there were more vendors and buyers on there to guarantee more of a sense of safety and diversity like what you seem to be able to have on Dream. But since paying twenty-something bucks for a single BTC transaction seems outrageous, I have no idea about how one would be able to get around to using DM without wasting money and potentially getting assfucked by the feds.

Last time I've ever used any DNM was back in the original SR days and I know that so many things have changed since then that one could hardly compare todays' DNMs to the good old days. So all in all, what would be the most sensible thing to do in this current situation? Wait for Libertas to get their shit together, try Zion with the limited amounts of listings that it has on offer or just give DM a go? I know I'm probably not the first one asking such a question lately but I honestly feel just more confused after reading all the recent posts in this subreddit. So if anyone could give me some simple and straightforward answers I would be very grateful, thank you.


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[18 Points] Manootcha:

short-term: use Dream, even if BTC fees are super high atm

mid-term: wait a bit, the attack on Libertas should be over by then and in a month or so they will have implemented Monero multi-sig (hopefully).

long-term: decentralized marketplaces such as OB2 should be the answer


[15 Points] FuckYouNotHappening:

I know you asked for a market, but I really, really believe Open Bazaar 2.0 is our future. I know they don't have Monero integration yet, but its on the horizon from what I've read.

To me, the DDoS is the biggest problem at the moment. Yes, it sucks to spend $75 on $300 of bitcoin and to possibly not be able to use it for a couple days (LE loves that we are an impulsive bunch), but fees aren't what holding us down at the moment. Its the DDoS (plus lack a of ethical and technical credibility from market admins) that is restricting trade.

OB2 is (as far as we know) impervious to DDoS and removes a lot of the shitty elements we're currently dealing with. Granted, there are reports of scammers popping up, but a vast majority of us just want to engage in legit trade, and if you have currency you can go do that right now on OB2. I'm not sure you can say that about any of the three remaining markets.


[14 Points] Cresint:

Since Monero isn't very popular yet, use xmr.to, it's a service that lets you make BTC payments with Monero


[7 Points] EtizPassion:

I’ll get downvotes for this but I’ve had zero issues with Dream. Use vendors that are vets, attempt to contact them prior to ordering and only deposit what you’re wanting to pay for. Like any market out there - realize you may lose the money.


[6 Points] VeronicaMonica:

A year or two ago there were a huge bloom of functioning markets (Abraxas, Agora, Nuculeus, DHL, etc) to choose from right at our disposal, any drugs we can possibly want.

The Golden Age of DNM, as I like to call it but as the old saying goes, good things never last that long and I think we are in the middle of a transition to a new era of DNM, for better or worse.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, enjoy it while it lasts and despite the absurb BTC fees, I would highly recommend stocking up on whatever you need to stock up on while you can because the last few months and multiple markets disappearing at a rate we've never seen before might be an indication that the "good old days of DNM" is at the latter end. Also, I just can't put comeplete faith on various new crypto currency emmerging at such a fast pace, so much so that it's too early to tell it whether the next viable crypto currency will surpass BTC.

BTC was really nothing special a few years back but now it's getting so much attention that who knows what will happen to BTC and the future tranactions of ordering from the DNM,

Fme, stability is what I go with when it comes to DNM.

So in short, as much as I hate the high BTC fees and Dream being pretty much the go to market, at the very least they have been stable for a very long time.

Once again, DNM is wildly unpredictable so I would HIGHLY advise to stock up on whatever you need so you dont put yourself in a position where there are no more reliable market left to purchase whatever you need.

Plan ahead before it's too late.

My honest two cents, and this is coming from experiencing the DNM scene for a little over 2 years and I have never seen anything like this before and I feel like things are just not going to be the same like it used to.

Enjoy it while it lasts!


[5 Points] JailsucksLEtoo:

I'm keeping using dream with no issues


[6 Points] scoobydrool:

silk road


[4 Points] Yaroze:

agora still works for me


[2 Points] cashpool00:

Why the fuck has nobody else said the obvious? Just use Alphabay


[3 Points] ElevenFives:

You shouldn't use market for purchases. I'd say get on one, find some sellers work with em for a bit then get their info and do dds. Cheaper more reliable and you don't have to worry about markets going down. But I have been using dream and no issues


[3 Points] radiadorK:

Dont use DreamMarket.Staff and Mods are junkies steal money from vendors and buyers to spend it on heroin while blame of phising and others silly stuff


[3 Points] Vendy_McVendface:

Zion, 100%.


[3 Points] USAUG:

ZION


[3 Points] WhewCookie:

Dream fucked me over 500€


[2 Points] zyrs86:

dreams never let me personally down, but they need to update


[2 Points] Jackpottino:

If you want weed and hash products use CGMC. It is one of the best markets I used for that kind of orders and it will start accepting soon also Litecoin. I can send you an invite code, just hmu.


[2 Points] Getitintoday:

I like Agora Reloaded. Don't understand why they don't get more credit.


[2 Points] HardC0r3:

Wallstr good, Dream working for me aswell atm. Zion is okay aswell.

Its more a perrsonal choice.


[2 Points] ramenno0dlez:

How come no one ever mentions Wall Street? They accept xmr.


[2 Points] missalfa:

These times are the worse right now bro. But hey at least we have choice of markets that work(for me). I use dream, Agora Reloaded but theres Zion and Libertas working too. I recommend doing DDs with vendors that you TRUST. Yes I know, theres no perferct market but hey you guys need to stop complaining. I mean youre literally on your computer browsing for drugs on the DNMs... back in the ole good days there was no dnms you had to go on the streez...


[1 Points] FreshestNuts:

Don't be a retard and Dream should work for you.


[1 Points] None:

Libertas is my fave


[1 Points] FunkyJallday:

I figured so. No feedback with those products would be unreal thanks man.


[1 Points] FunkyJallday:

I knew I had once knew that name as legit. Thanks for the info. I was thinking 30 for opana 40 was off the chain


[1 Points] Joskins:

Libertas, Zion or Dream?

I'd go with Libertas if my DOC was available there. If not, I'd go to the marketplace where it was available.


[0 Points] KeepMeAFewDollars:

Libertas or dream should be fine


[-9 Points] STFUMandy:

Your shopping for a self help course in digital format right? I think maybe you should find somewhere you can pay full price for it and that could be a good way for you to start dealing with your self esteem issues.