So Obama just signed CISA into law

http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/18/house-senate-pass-budget-with-cisa/

Anyone using US based services is fucked, this includes reddit. I hope this will be a wakeup call for everyone to use a VPN even for clearnet services. I would also no longer recommend PIA as they are also US based, Mullvad is a great non-US based alternative.


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[253 Points] Solubilityisfun:

Fuck you Congress. Fuck you president. Fuck you America.

Fuck your means of "leading" by waiting to do the important shit to the last minute so that you can throw what the fuck you want into law without opposition.

You truly are the scum of the earth.


[107 Points] ciphersexual:

Well, as a darknet market user when my basic rights are infringed on I do what all good Americans do -- I count on a clandestine overseas lab to manufacture a solution.

So please, Chinese research chemical producers, start mailing us some rights to privacy. I'll spray privacy on my computer and smoke it.


[39 Points] noonehear:

I aint scared. Come at me bro.


[26 Points] CISA_Question:

So how does this actually effect people using DNM's/TOR?

Is everybody using TOR suddenly going to be hunted down or anything?

Do we suddenly have to go about our DNM doings in a different way now?


[14 Points] Navitych:

I'm not really familiar with darknets, privacy and how CISA really works on top of that. Would anyone be willing to ELI5 how this affects darknets users?


[12 Points] lizardturtle:

Wait this actually got through? What the fuckk


[11 Points] JustThrowingGarbage:

Gonna affect the darknet much?


[10 Points] imnotfrosty:

The burn is that not only can they put the scope up your butt when they want, but you get to pay for it! The laaaaand of debriiiiiis.... And the hooooome of theeeee slaaaaaaave!


[6 Points] lordredvampire:

Did CISA got signed into law by Obama? Time to purge Windows 10. Get Cryptostorm (VPN) www.cryptostorm.is -- one of the best VPN out there -- token based VPN.

Shit just hit the fan..


[7 Points] Ketsa:

Funny seeing your "democracy" at work. lol.


[6 Points] None:

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[5 Points] Wanted_drugs_2day:

Use an offshore VPN, no use tails, no use Linux.

If I run tails I have a great os but now my ISP and the nsa, dea,FBI, etc now know a user from a specific area is using TOR. And if you're a vendor yoll be on the a lot so there's a great big fingerprint.

If I run an offshore VPN I have to run Windows or Linux and assuming my VPN EVER drops connection all of my logged stuff could be sent out elsewhere?

So wtf is the right course of action?

You can't run tails, TOR, through a dd-wrt (VPN) router because then you can't reach onion sites.


[5 Points] Cynical_Dickhead69:

I just want to know 2 things:
1. Tails can't help hide us anymore right?
2. Am I fucked if I pirate some music and tv shows?


[5 Points] highbillymays:

what are the implications for a dnm buyer realistically?

will this law actually increase the rate at which people recieve CDs and arrests or what?

im naive but i get the feeling it wont matter for the most part?


[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] amalgam_reynolds:

obama is a cunt


[3 Points] scallet95:

Can you please elaborate as to why we should no longer use PIA?


[2 Points] b4tb4t:

Can anybody explain what CISA is?


[2 Points] thehaga:

I have stopped putting anything on my computers ages ago that I don't accept to be either found or accept that it's a risk no matter what.

Pen and paper folks. Don't matter if I'm in another country, don't matter if I use a throwaway (this isn't one), don't matter if behind a proxy.. if I do it electronically, I always have in the back of my mind that it's not private. It's become a habit where I don't even think about it. I'm just always purposefully vague with everything I do.. and If I do something with which I cannot be vague well.. I understand the risks and take as many precautions as I can.

But yeah, it sucks. I remember like what, 20 years ago, when this wasn't the case. I mean you never pick up a phone and think someone's tapping it.. as in.. any phone.. anywhere.. all the time. (You might now but you know what I mean). It's weird how we got to this point. But there's nothing we can do about it.


[2 Points] iAmSmokey:

I have left reddit for a reddit alternative due to years of admin mismanagement and preferential treatment for certain subreddits and users holding certain political and ideological views.

The situation has gotten especially worse since the appointment of Ellen Pao as CEO, culminating in the seemingly unjustified firings of several valuable employees and bans on hundreds of vibrant communities on completely trumped-up charges.

The resignation of Ellen Pao and the appointment of Steve Huffman as CEO, despite initial hopes, has continued the same trend.

As an act of protest, I have chosen to redact all the comments I've ever made on reddit, overwriting them with this message.

If you would like to do the same, install TamperMonkey for Chrome, GreaseMonkey for Firefox, NinjaKit for Safari, Violent Monkey for Opera, or AdGuard for Internet Explorer (in Advanced Mode), then add this GreaseMonkey script.

Finally, click on your username at the top right corner of reddit, click on the comments tab, and click on the new OVERWRITE button at the top of the page. You may need to scroll down to multiple comment pages if you have commented a lot.

After doing all of the above, you are welcome to join me on a reddit alternative!


[1 Points] adaptations_:

Fuck.


[1 Points] drug_tester:

Fuck off with this VPN bullshit, they will just cough up data as soon as requested, not only this. But mot VPN use weak and broken encryption.

Use fucking TAILS.


[1 Points] stiktalk:

Thanks Obama.


[1 Points] notexactlystr0be:

The unencrypted, freely accessible without a warrant metadata from your cellphone/internet activity would be far more useful as evidence of criminal activity than trying to follow content encrypted by TOR that has been routed through another layer of encryption via VPN and hopped around the world 5 times before reaching its destination. Which happens to be a deep web server that nobody has been able to pinpoint the location of so far.

All the authorities have to do is request (no warrant required in Australia) your metadata history from your provider and a simple program creates a pretty little map of where you've been and how often you've been there for the last few years or more. Be it a bank you make your cash deposits at or a PO box you check on the reg.

You can't fake or encrypt your metadata, and you certainly can't clear the history of it. If you're going to do something illegal, leave your cellphone at home.


[1 Points] earthmoonsun:

Tails might need to upgrade their servers for rising traffic


[1 Points] FagDamager:

currently use mullvad, but it slows my internet so much, is there any way I can fix this?


[1 Points] DextroShade:

They can collect all they want, but if its encrypted then good luck getting anything actionable out of it. And you can't simply put a "back door" into encryption without rendering it useless. So when the gov't has everybody's data but its all 4096-bit RSA encrypted I don't see it mattering much, especially to the DNM community which has been so security conscious and encrypting nearly everything already anyway.

My only real worry is that they have a quantum computer we don't know about...


[1 Points] ToEAway_FTGE:

VPN certs are practically garbage according to Snowden leaks -- and that's news from like 2010. Using an overseas VPN would put you in the category of every shadow-person agency out there, as there's international communication on the first hop. International comms are already stored and analyzed due to the Regan-era Telecom Act or whatever it's called. Switching to an overseas VPN is probably worse than staying domestic, truth be told.


[1 Points] CokeRobot:

So I have a general question on what best to use for dn shopping. Would it be better to use an older model laptop without a TPM chip running a Linux distro using Tor in a VPN running off a public wifi network?


[1 Points] Yeah_Im_A_God:

Would a tails USB boot still be effective?


[1 Points] None:

PIA is gone, Mullvad is in. Nothing we can do to change it, so just have to adapt...


[1 Points] fpu4eva:

Ok first off Private internet access is still probably your best bet, using shared IP's and the fact that before this law was passed the US was the last country really not to have IP retention laws, either way your sharing a IP with someone while on it no matter what theirfore even with a subpenea nothing could be shown, especially if you use their more exotic encryption


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] None:

I think when it all just comes down to it, we are all really beautifully stupid and just don't realize it. It's like a smog cloud. This smog has grown in such a fierce way that's it's exponentially unjust and reckon ably treacherous. Enlightenment? No, awakening...either way it's all been tried, the passive side is just nulling at the chains anymore as it ever was. The American Dream is real though. Gotta think in the upper hand to stay ahead. Be ready to draw when they finally stumble. You guys ever watched that one movie, wtf was it called...it sounds so much like what I've read on here in Reddit lately...from the DEA setting up fake ricin ads to hackers, the kings and the piss-ants, the famous and the infamous. Even talking about schitzophrenia...oh that's it!!! You guys ever watch Twelve Monkeys? That shit was catchy in a way, of course when applied to different theories...eh

This all really does just seem to be about money in the long run though. I blame the money-lust drunk eyes of the leaders of the worlds. Economy is just some big fancy word. I call my cash capitol.