Is it illegal to order cigarettes off the dark net?

25$ for a carton of Reds is enticing.


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[41 Points] WillyDrumDrum:

yes in the government's eyes anything you purchase off the dnm is illegal

its called funding a criminal organization or something along those lines. any btc going into their wallet is dirty money basically

but whose keeping score? ppsh I don't actually order off the dnm, thats ludacris. this is simply a role playing sub

edit: also I've heard cigs off dnm are nothing like real cigs. they are blended with other herbs or something. I even remember reading about some guy lighting up a cig from dnm and it catching fire while in his mouth because it wasn't even tobacco, some other cheap and flammable dry herb


[25 Points] None:

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[10 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

Dutyfree.io. It's run by a former darknet vendor that went over to the clear.

Cigarettes are legal to import without paying tax if it's a small amount for personal use only. In other words, you probably wouldn't be able to get away with ordering a master case to sell to your friends, but a few cartons at a time for yourself wouldn't be a problem.

Buying from a dnm directly presents its own risks because the market takes a commission off the top of every transaction. In this process, since they take that cut, you are committing the federal crime (at least in the US) of funding a criminal organization. Therefore, if it's a legal or even grey-area item that can be purchased legitimately on the clearnet, it should be. IMO, a simple collection letter asking for due taxes would be a lot better than a profiled vendor and ensuing raid that somehow connects your name to the darknet.


[7 Points] jailhousetattoo:

Depends where you live. In Australia, customs detect them and you have to pay import duty per stick. It still works out cheaper.

They're legit if they're from Moldova/Ukraine because tobacco products are locally produced for the international market. Asian/Indonesian cigarettes are cheap too, but taste like beer-battered dog shit.


[6 Points] coffeencreme:

Yes because you're avoiding tax and contributing to a criminal enterprise


[4 Points] trynakick:

$25 for a carton has got to be stolen or otherwise Ill-gotten, even in NC or GA where smokes are $4.50-5/ pack that is an absurd price, so count shipping, packing, purchasing and exchanging cash to btc back to cash, no way a carton is $25.

I do think there is probably demand for NC to NYC or other northeastern states, but $25 a carton is just too low.

So.... I guess I didn't actually answer your, "is it illegal" question, although many other people have. But I just wanted to caution that there is no conceivable way that real Marlboro reds are being sold at $25/carton. I would believe -although I don't know- that you could buy them for $25/carton in NC or GA (or maybe even VA or KY) but a sustainable DNM vendor selling real cigs at that price? No way.


[1 Points] belizeinme:

yes it is


[1 Points] chickenrunner:

Im not sure, in my country i know there is a duty on cigarettes, so If i buy ciggies, and import them, then pay tax on them at the post office, am I breaking the law? Presumably I have to hope the source is legal, though I doubt it is or they wouldn't be selling on DNM I guess.


[1 Points] DoEasy:

ATF would be upset because it's a form of tax evasion (they deal with treasury and judicial matters).


[1 Points] BakedPastaParty:

wheres that listing tho


[1 Points] 21opsec:

In my state American spirits are 8.34-9.95$ a pack the cheap ones are around 5-7$ so a carton of American spirits is 57$ and that's from SAMs club lol


[1 Points] Mentalpopcorn:

If you're brand flexible, I used to buy from artcigs.com (used to be tobaccofields.com) 10 years ago and was always happy with the product, although shipping took a month back then. Looks like their Marlboro prices are shit for some reason at $5.60/pack, but they've got a few other brands for ~$3.60/pack.


[1 Points] Spicy_Tripp:

I mean anything you order tax free is technically "illegal" to the government cause they gotta get their hands on everything. Shit drugs would be legal if they figured out how to tax them before they prohibited them. Who cares really? $25 a carton shiiiiiiit go for it man


[0 Points] Clix828:

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What is this?