Why Reddit won't close /r/DNM.

Because LE gets too much info from here.


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[23 Points] None:

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[9 Points] lemonbreak:

Or because we're not a hateful community and we don't break the reddit TOS?


[7 Points] None:

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[1 Points] DancingWindAway:

I wouldn't call it info to be honest. I got mad love for this sub and all but this is no place for solid intel that can be used to build cases.

They get the general vibe of the scene here at best. If LE uses resources to read the fud and drama on this sub I'm not wasting tears over it.


[0 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

After the sub became private for a few days, when we were able to access it again it was no longer run by Astrid.

Gwern knows that LE have administrator access here. He kinda let slip one day when I said I was interested to see what a subpoena looks like. He straight out refused, saying that I'm too stupid to see his subpoena "You would probably try to doxx the officers". Then TheEconomist1 quickly jumped in and began trying to discredit me too. A few minutes later, I couldn't find the thread. It had inexplicably dropped from #2 to #99. Bottom of the 3rd page.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3c07oe/wait_so_gwerns_account_was_never_actually/

On Reddit, the truth pushes back against you. I couldn't understand why gwern and theEconomist1 were insulting me in such an un-moderater-like way. It was only later when I thought about what gwern had said.

How can a public figure like a police officer be "doxxed"? Of course!

WHEN HE'S WORKING UNDER COVER! (gwern's faux pas has disappeared now, like a soviet dissident. Maybe other mods can see the edit history).

That explained why gwern was acting so strange and being an utter twat the last few weeks he was here, and why he dumped a terabyte of his marketplace "research" in the public domain, where it will be used to put DNM vendors and users behind bars for hundreds of additional years. It will be used by the prosecution whenever a vendor gets arrested to prove earnings on long-dead marketplaces, allowing seizure of assets. I never got another opportunity to ask gwern about this, because he announced he was stepping down as a moderator.

Gwern is still active on reddit. But he hasn't been back to this subreddit.

Its like he knows something that ruins this subreddit for him, or he's been warned not to come back or say anything.. I'm speculating that one of the corrupt Baltimore team who stole from Silk road turned the screws on gwern using a subpoena, to be granted moderator access. Astrid either found out or had to be taken care of, because she doesn't come here now either.

I'm sure everybody is going to tell me to have some more meth, everything is perfectly normal and easily explained. Gwern explained everything, and theEconomist1 says that Astrid apologised for going nuts and sends her best wishes.

The subpoenas, followed by that strange time when this subreddit becoming private didn't make sense. Why would LE concentrate on Evolution AFTER it closed - it was no longer a problem?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150331/14390230505/was-it-same-corrupt-team-that-investigatedstole-silk-road-that-now-subpoenaed-reddit.shtml

Its because corrupt police smelled money. Bacon smelled bitcoin.. I think that most of the other mods don't know which of their number are LE. I bet you mods are only thinking about this for the first time right now. What do you think, moderators?


[1 Points] -lobali:

I think an important bit of information that everyone seems to either not realize or chooses is ignore is reddit was subpoenaed for information about Gwern. The subpoena wanted reddjt to then over things like his IP, login times, if he used an email to verify, and whatever info about his account they asked for.

A subpoena is either an order to then over information or appear. As far as I am aware, s Gwern never WAS subpoenaed; reddjt was and his name was on the list of users they wanted into about.

He spoke with an attorney to preempt knowing what to do if he himself were served with a subpoena to say, then over scrapings or ms meets, notes he keeps, or for some insane reason, him to appear at a grand jury indictment if the Feds believe he holds enough info to be worth questioning in front of the grand jury.

They were barking up the wrong tree and aside from push Gwern over the edge in his interest and work of documenting the evolution and events of markets - nothing came of it. I don't know if LE even contacted Gwern.

The point is: REDDIT was served an administrative subpoena asking for info on Gwern. I'm sure reddjt have him a copy of it but he was *not subpoenaed."

My late dad and two brothers are lifelong career attorneys. I am fascinated by the legal system and used to love to go watch my dad (public defender) fight in court. Occam's Razor leads to me being the most likely candidate for being LE but I'll be hanged before I spent 11 post secondary years to then go to the police academy.