Welp, that's it for me, boys. I think my name/mail is profiled.

Ill try to be brief. I dont know how this came about, and it's the strangest scenario I've ever been a part of (or heard of, relating to DNM activity). I ordered 10 etilaam(etizolam) tabs that arrived saturday. Everything was peachy, I used my regular opsec, I posted a vendor review a few minutes later. Saturday night was fun. Sunday was fun. Hell monday was a good day, til about 6:30PM when I get a knock on my door, its campus safety and security. They tell me they "received information that you(me) recieved a package full of drugs saturday" I lied and said what do you mean? Then the officer says "look we know you recieved a suspicious package, tell us about it" I lie and say I didn't know who it was from or what it was and I trash canned it. Then they asked me about a party I threw saturday (no party took place so this is whats really weirding me out), and then tried to retroactively get my roommate and I in trouble for drinking (even though were both 21+) but we didnt have our "sticker" that made us eligible to have it in the room. Whatever, they bought it and left.

I sit down and crack a beer open and I hear a knock again, its them. Theyre like "step outside were searching your room" so my roommate and i obliged, they do, they find my oil rig, torch, scale, grinder, 2 bowls, and some empty baggies (not my hash oil or beer in plain sight in the fridge tho) and the 3 etilaam i had left. I had to argue the legality of them with the officer "theyre legal" "do you have a perscription???!" "No because it's a research chemical, it is LEGAL." "Well....Ill have to look into that. Too bad, if you were honest about the pills this whole thing could have been avoided"

Oh yeah cuz i bet if i said "Oh yes! these drugs! theyre legal, but here you go" Id be left alone.....

What bothers me is the tip off. How the fuck could they have known? When realsupremesmoke got busted, it was a Friday(or sat) I had recieved an express pack from him that Wednesday. I assumed my home address was burned, but after moving back to school I thought I'd be good. I was (at least enough to recieve the drugs, no CD) but what the fuck man. Does "the man" really have me on a list?

Let me hear your thoughts. Either way, I'm retiring fellas. It was fun, ill still be poking around here, but my participation is officially over.

edit: and please save the "youre an idiot for delivering on campus" Ive done this over 15 times with no issue. the campus had nothing to do with catching me other than being tipped off

edit2: im so sick of repeating it, lets pretend youre all right, but i want to consider a different scencario. pretend my roommate DIDNT rat on me REGARDLESS of what your first thoughts tell you. then leave me feedback


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[24 Points] None:

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[14 Points] surf_ing:

Looks like campus PD got wind of your name on the realsupremesmoke customer list, and so they bugged your TAILS usb and updated you with a cracked version, monitored all traffic going in and out of your IP, paid hundreds of dollars per hour for some indian kid to decrypt your pgp code and bam they got you good bruh.

Like others have said, just keep your mouth shut. You shouldn't be telling people about this shit. If you have, the next time it comes up just tell them the biggest market tanked and now you don't use DNM anymore.


[6 Points] Theeconomist1:

I'm leaning towards someone talking too much. It doesn't have to necessarily be ratting you out to rat you out but could be bragging, "innocent" talking, etc. I doubt its related to anything beyond that. I don't think its a DNM issue, its a IRL issue. If you were profiled, you wouldn't get a visit from campus police. It'd be from a postal inspector, LE (i know many campus police are deputized but you know what I mean), etc. The fact that campus police came tells me its being treated as an "internal" issue. If they knew about your pack, you wouldn't get your pack.

Someone talked. Maybe not meaning to get you in trouble, but someone talked. 90% sure. Either way, do what's right for you. If this is a wakeup call for you, take it.


[5 Points] None:

You're still an idiot for ordering to an on campus address. I guarantee that whatever paperwork you signed in your housing contract included a waiver that forfeited all rights to mail privacy you would have had elsewhere. Thats why you should always get a PO Box


[4 Points] None:

Why would you even buy it on a market when you can get it cheaper from clearnet sites?


[2 Points] 3ffffffffff2:

i made the same mistake in college housing, they cant search your space without a warrant or your consent, its a constitutional right not something a college can write a policy around, i didnt know that and cops pressured me into signing consent form

stupid kids dont know their own rights shouldnt be doing drugs


[2 Points] Throwaw1776:

I know you don't wanna hear it, but it was people talking. I'm sure your roommate didn't rat you out, but somehow someone on campus knew about it. Either you or your roommate spread the word somehow. You can't trust anyone!!! You tell somebody that's "cool", then they do the same, for whatever reasons. And that cycle goes on and on until many, many people know. Every time the story about what you do gets told, it gets exaggerated. Somebody probably thinks you get kilos of mdma because that's what the story's turned into. Don't tell anybody what you do!!! If anyone wonders how you get your shit you tell them you know a guy. You don't wanna hear it, but that's what went down.


[2 Points] meowmixx666:

Agree with the rest, unless you are on campus internet and fucked your netsec. Which is also why Id advise against ordering clearnet F W i W.

Also keep in mind if they report + prosecute you can lose your financial aid. I think its stupid to order on campus ever for that reason alone.


[2 Points] octomarvel:

You have a secret admirer in yo dorm that cares about yo drug use and wants you to be their drug clean Chad.

Just a nice possibility.

=)


[2 Points] ForeverHungg:

YOU GOT TOSSED ON ETIZOLAM AND ALL CAPPPPPS!!!

Also someone snitched on you likely your roomate. No brainer. Stupid kid. Now you can't buy drugs in the mail no more!


[2 Points] Theeconomist1:

When realsupremesmoke got busted, it was a Friday(or sat)

I thought it was a Monday or a Tuesday IIRC. Theories besides the roommates:

If you want to think you are being profiled by the feds, then that's fine too. I think that's what you believe and that's that. You say you were a dealer for years and that you'd be a juicy target. So the thing that comes to mind: why the fuck would they tip you off over a RC?? That's why this makes no sense. They'd wait until you ordered something good. And if you were of any value to anyone besides campus police, they certainly wouldn't bungle it like this. And they wouldn't send campus police over a target of any value. That's why this scenario makes no sense to me. But it doesn't matter. If you believe you are being pursued by larger forces, then that's fine too. You're out of the game and that's fine. I guess if you thought about sticking around, maybe the answer to this quesiton would matter. But it sounds moot

Edit: He was busted Tuesday morning at 6AM.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/lee-gray-arrested-on-suspicion-of-being-deep-web-drug-dealer-supremesmoke-2015-8


[2 Points] PeasantOfKings:

You're an idiot. Focus on school that your mom and pops are paying for. /endthread


[2 Points] SmauqDrogs:

So, could be the University monitoring your net traffic / email (in case of using the uni account to talk about drugs).

Buuuuuut in fact someone has a big mouth, sit down with your boy and try to figure it out. If you were able to get your package then something happened after that day. Being it Monday, maybe some report issued on the weekend was read just by that time late in the afternoon.


[2 Points] high_as_flight93:

Lol OP is so fucking stupid, your room mate who sounds like a straight edge faggot told another straight edge faggot who snitched on you. After reading your replies of you being an asshole to be in the comments trying to help you, you deserve to get caught


[2 Points] None:

The simplest explanation is the correct explanation


[2 Points] lustforjurking:

The fact that anyone outside of yourself knows about your activity, raises your chances to get caught enormously. Simple as that. You're trusting someone else to be on his/her guard 100% of the time that he or she does not say anything, how slight it may be, that will incriminate you. It's just impossible.


[1 Points] drimilr:

Id be more worried about the other stuff they found. Theyll probably just toss the etiz since its not really illegal. The other stuff is however.

I was going with the loose lips theory as well. But youre pretty adamant your roommate is solid, so I dunno. Profiled vendor?


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[1 Points] Sunline_Inc:

I can probably guess If you'll just tell me what size bong you have in your dorm room..I'm of the opinion that f you have one of these giant 3 footers you would definitely be the type of social smoker to let let it slip (your DNM activity's) between bong rips..


[1 Points] w8tf9etbgnv:

I know you don't like it. I know it makes you angry to hear it. I know you want us to speculate on other theories. But the fact of the matter is, your roommate talked. That's what happened. You need to come to terms with that. Its Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is the correct one. What's more likely? Your roommate talked, or the feds somehow figured out you had drugs in the mail, let you receive them, let use use them for the weekend (is this the feds' new drug rental program?), then instead of busting you themselves for committing several felonies, handed it off to campus security to do, well, nothing to you. Occam's razor man. The roommate talked.


[1 Points] isthisaname88:

never deny anything. By saying you didn't know who it was from and threw it out that sounds pretty strange. Next time tell them nicely to ask you those questions through your lawyer. Might be different if you're living in the dorms though..


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[1 Points] trynakick:

ok. You have ruled out what most here consider the most likely thing that happen. So, other possibilities. First, I'm assuming that you don't deal (or at least, aren't a 'dealer') probably also buy sometimes IRL, and consume drugs with other people (not your roommate, because he doesn't do drugs and doesn't care).

Theory 1 (compromised dealer) The USPS found your address on a pack from RSS, found a personal supply of H, tipped off local law enforcement, which tipped off campus PD, who checked the records of packs received with the mail room and came and said, "did you get drugs on Saturday?"

Why this is likely: because it definitely wasn't your roommate

because LE doesn't like the DNM's so, while it seems like a lot of effort to scare people over personal amounts, it spreads fear and concern, which discourages people from using the DNMs

Why this isn't likely: The feds are making a huge bust on a scary internet drug dealer who probably killed 100 promising young minds with his poison, so what agent in their right mind is gonna spend time calling a bunch of random local LEA's to tip them off to potential local personal user busts.

Because, as others have said, IF someone came, they would be a postal inspector.

Because you would have had to be so unlucky that the 1-2 days worth of RSS packs he had with him happened to be yours.

theory 2: your netsec I know I'm going against R/DNM gospel here, but I'm of the opinion that personal users can fire up their macbook, download tor, send some bitcoin from LBC straight to a DNM, make a Domestic-in-the-US purchase and sit back and wait.

You shouldn't do that, but I just don't believe that LE spends resources on personal users, and think about the effort involved in tying a random BTC transfer to a specific package.

I know, I know. theoretically all it is getting a list from coinbase, circle or where ever of known DNM address, cross referencing transfers to those address with registered users then seeing when those users got packages by tracking down mail records and them Boom! knock and talk about your postage receiving habits.

I think we seriously underestimate the inertia of bureaucracy on this sub. IRL I work with projects involving city, state and local government. You should see the shit that happens with the left hand while the right hand doesn't have any idea what's going on. And you're thinking that some agent working on big national (probably international) drug case did any of this.

tl;dr it wasn't a netsec issue.

So, I dunno man. The roommate definitely didn't say anything, because you know that. Let's try theory 3

theory 3: IRL leak I don't even think this was a snitch, or anything malicious. I know people, and especially college kids LOVE to gossip. I think it went down like this. A few kids sitting around at a party. "This (drug) is awesome, thanks!" "yeah, it's great, but not near as good as that stuff bakedpastaparty had one time" "Where does he get his shit?" "I dunno... everyone else get's it from (local, probably non-student, sketchy townie), maybe the internet or some shit"

Then, 3 degrees of separation later, a busybody RA who knows you do drugs (because everyone knows who does drugs) tells their supervisor that bakedpastaparty is recieving copious amounts of ganja in the mail.

hey, guys, I swear, I've never even touched meth, dabbled in ritalin and I thought my heart was gonna explode. I just have a history of starting comments and getting lazy and not finishing. Today I wanted to finish what I started.


[1 Points] coffeencreme:

Whoever knows IRL told them. Sorry, I know you want us to consider other things, the problem is there is really no other possible scenario,

I'm not saying it was your room mate, but someone else IRL knows and that's your problem. Have you told anyone else? Could anyone else have seen the packages and ordering themselves known what they were?