Whats the consensus on whether or not to sign for packs?
I saw this on DeepDot and thought it was interesting:
tell them never to sign for anything
While I would be interested in hearing the JD author's opinion, your blanket statement above is absolutely not as fundamental as you are suggesting. There is a JD that specializes in controlled delivery, criminal cases that has shown that the act of signing will NEVER get you in more legal trouble than not signing unless of course you and your attorney are a retard. The signature has been tossed from evidence in nearly every case lately because the argument has been made, and sustained by the courts, that the presence of a uniformed, federal employee asking for your signature is clear entrapment.
The argument is that most citizens do not think there is an option on signing or not and that the uniform is passive coercion because the uniformed USPS worker has been a symbol of trustworthiness for 100+ years. He has presented the argument to judges explaining the act of signing/not-signing does not pass the "Mother" test. This statement helped me understand the most. His argument is that if your mother was brought an envelope by a USPS worker and told to sign, would she sign? ALL mother's would sign whether the package had heroin or a birthday card, they always sign. Mother's don't grasp ANY danger in signing for a package and even if they know they did not order anything they will ALWAYS think it is still something important like insurance papers, tax papers whatever.
The idea is that not signing implies much more about guilt because, well, everyone that is NOT ordering drugs signs. This JD has been successful in having the CD signature expunged from all cases he has had appear before a court.
Again, I would be interested in JD Hoffman's take on this. via I.P. Daley
I don't think there is really a consensus here on it. I tend to believe signing won't fuck you, not signing won't save you. I think not signing brings on additional risk. More than likely the reason you are signing has nothing to do with a CD. But once you reject the pack, its getting returned to sender and the chances then are very highly LE is gonna get involved. So looking at it as a probability matrix, not signing is overall riskier than signing b/c the premise that the postman asking for signature is a CD is a bad premise. More than likely its missing postage, new mailman, some other random reason. I'm also thinking from a personal buyer perspective. I don't have any experience with bulk so maybe there are other considerations there.