Ecstasy alternative with more of a kick?

The handful of times I've rolled from MDMA off the dark net have been very pleasurable; very clean product and roll, no hangover, afterglow, etc. However sometimes when i go rave it's hard to be able dance for several hours on end simply because the euphoria from the MDMA honestly just makes me want to sit down on a nice comfy couch and have deep conversations with my friends. the roll from MDMA is mellow, warm and fuzzy, and really relaxing which isn't ideal for raving for hours on end.

The times I got methylone and thizz (not from the dark net) the roll was arguably inferior but good God all i wanted to do was dance till i died.

Does anyone have any alternatives to MDMA or maybe a vendor whose product is cut and produces a more rave like experience? I tried MDMA and MDA for the first time a few weeks ago and good lord it was the best high of my life. This question may be better geared towards r/drugs but it's worth a shot asking here.


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[16 Points] MDMangel:

No one ever wants to hear this because I have asked the same question and have the answer, but it's mdma and meth mixed. They call em' meth bombs and they FUCKIN ROCK!!!!!!! 120 mg mdma 30/40 mg pure crystal meth in a capsule and hold the fuck on.


[11 Points] Molly-Cyrus:

Try putting some ants in your pants!


[3 Points] Theeconomist1:

I flaired your post w/ /r/Drugs, BUT don't take that to mean you shouldn't ask your question here. Many prefer to ask this community certain questions and that's cool. But just flaired it since it was a drug-specific question.


[2 Points] throwaxanny:

4-FA maybe?

Otherwise I'd say MDMA with a bit of cocaine in there, even though it sort of counteracts the emetional effects


[2 Points] thr0wawaay2:

Mephedrone is a good option (like a more speedy MDMA,very euphoric but uppity), but it has disappeared after it was banned in China after causing deaths in the USA & UK.


[1 Points] None:

Amphetamines?


[1 Points] Chardlz:

I'm not too familiar with the Fluorinated Amphetamines (FAs) but a friend of mine described them to me as a kind of broken down MDMA. The different amphetamines have each individual feeling that the serotonin release and amphetamine usage of MDMA more isolated though. Like some will be speedy and make you excited and some will give you that euphoric high and some will give you that empathetic feeling of "I want to have a deep meaningful conversation with you". If you did some research into it I bet you could find a sweet combination of those different feelings to simulate an amphetamine that gives you the best of each thing you want in the proportions you want.


[1 Points] space_holiday:

I'd just go the straight MDA and not even bother mixing it with MDMA.


[1 Points] redditulousfun:

Oldschool presses were alot of times mdma/mda/meth were i am. mda by itself may be the answer your looking for id try that before introducing meth. Meth is a hard monkey to shake and it killed the local rave scene around 2000 here


[1 Points] bamoida2:

4-FA moderate to high dosage

6-APB

MDMA/MDA 2:1 ratio

MDMA + Speed/Meth (low dose)

4-MMC (Mephedrone)

2-FA (not really mdma like)

(In no particular order, except 2-FA is certainly worse tham the above)


[1 Points] cvndyflip:

try a candy flip at your next rave ;)


[1 Points] thewronggun:

METH


[1 Points] highbillymays:

meth dude best alternative


[0 Points] EZPeeVee:

2C-T-7 That's one ya can't fuck with. Don't mix it with anything but a little alcohol or weed you'll die.