[Advice/OPSEC] I'm trying to send a package with a moderate amount of 'supplies' to a friend in another state (USA). I am not a vendor, and this is purely friend-to-friend. What OPSEC concerns should I have?

1) should I go full stealth? multiple mylar bags and food savers? decoys?

2) what method of shipping? flat-rate? priority?

3) how should I buy postage? pre-paid online via VPN and visa giftcard? stamps paid in cash?

4) what's the best way to print out the addresses? using my home laser-jet makes me nervous (micro dots or whatnot), and hand-written seems like a stupid idea.

5) do i need a fake return address? I know the receiving address is going to be 100% correct. again, this is to a friend

thanks everyone!


Comments


[15 Points] ForLol_Serious:

Literally 50% of my dnm orders were just drugs thrown in an envolope and all arrived with no cd's if that helps you out any.


[8 Points] 90210BitchTits:

Welp considering you are shipping to a friend that knows your name and address the only thing you should be concerned with is the stealth.

If packages get intercepted...

If you paid for shipping with bitcoin or credit card, it wont matter because they'll already have your name and address from your friend.

If they check the label for "micro dots or whatever" it wont matter because they already have your name and address fom you friend.

Fake return address wont matter because they'll already have your nam and address from your friend.

Should I go full stealth?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

Just order from a vendor and have them send it to your friend. This way if something does happen, slight chance, you never touched, looked at, or were even near the "supplies". Better chance in court... unless you posted this using your phone... in that case GG my friend.


[4 Points] fuckmepelican:

Put that shit in the priority box and keep it moving make sure it doesn't rattle


[3 Points] None:

Ive shipped lsd, DMT, and weed to friends in other state no issue. Vac sealed Mylar+box thats all. I bought stamps with cash, then used a real fake return adress


[3 Points] the_orgaz0id:

First off, it depends on quantity and type of "supplies" you're planning to send. You mentioned that it's only a moderate amount, a few grams or so, most likely something that can be ground down to powder form. Provided that's the case, the below has worked for me without fail on multiple occasions (note: I'm not a vendor either but have sent things to friends in various states). I figure the safest and cheapest route is first class envelope.

  1. Yes, full stealth, which means grinding the product down as fine as possible and putting it in a small ziplock bag (known as jewelry bags; get them at Walmart). Depending on the size of bag you have (i.e. 1"x1", 2"x1", etc.) and the quantity you're sending, you might need multiple bags, but the point is to keep it as flat as possible. Once filled, wipe the bag or bags with alcohol swabs and move to another location. Vac seal the bag or bags together in a separate food saver bag (again, trying to keep the contents as flat as possible (i.e. if you have 2 baggies, put them next to each other, not on top of each other). Make sure to seal as close to the bag(s) as possible and cut off the excess plastic. Wipe down that vac seal with alcohol swab and do another vac seal and wipe that one too. Then vac seal the mylar bag around that and wipe again with alcohol swab. Move the (hopefully) flat as can be pack to a different non-contaminated room where you have paper, blank sticky shipping labels (or tape), and an envelope. Affix the package to the middle of a piece of paper such that you can do a three fold around it (i.e. if you were to fold an 8"x11" piece of paper three times to fit into an envelope, the package should be small enough such that it will fit in the middle section, and the other two sides can be folded around it; by "affix," I mean either covering it with the sticky shipping label or sufficiently taping it). Fold about five or six more pieces of paper around it, put the papers in the envelope, and seal the envelope. You want it to appear as though you're simply sending a letter, a contract, or some other type of paperwork. If done right, the package shouldn't be detectible as the additional pieces of paper essentially mask the addition of something other than paper.

  2. Like I said, first class mail. I don't know the weight you're shipping, but you should weigh it and put on the sufficient number of stamps.

  3. Use stamps. I can't see you needing more than 3, but make sure you have enough as you do not want it to return to sender for insufficient postage. If it requires more than 3 stamps, you should probably do separate envelopes using the same method as excessive postage is supposedly a red flag.

  4. A handwritten address is fine and customary for something like this. Even big companies commonly send and receive letters with handwritten addresses.

  5. Regarding the return address, use an address of an apartment close to the blue box where you will be dropping off the letter. Don't use a business address as (in the unlikely case the letter gets seized, traced back, or returned to sender) businesses are more likely to report to LE than general folks. It's fine to use a fake name (apartments generally have a lot of turnover, and if it does get returned, the actual occupant may just throw it away), which would also give your friend more plausible deniability.

The whole point of the above is to fly under the radar. Make sure to wear gloves throughout the whole process (at least two sets of gloves is advisable; one when packaging product, one when stealthing the product; and one when preparing and delivering the envelope). This way, it won't get tracked back to you.

On your friend's end, make sure he/she knows not to sign for anything that he/she isn't expecting (e.g. a FedEx package or something like that), has a clean house, and has no digital traces of correspondence with you about this.

If it's more than a few grams or something that can't be concealed as easily, you may need to use a different procedure, but what I've described above is one of the safest and most discreet ways of sending small quantities of substances.

There's really no need to do priority and potentially exposing yourself via payment method or ISP (not to mention the hassle of anonymous postage methods). First class mail is reliable, presumably gets less scrutiny, and doesn't really take that much longer than priority. The above mentioned stealth procedures are for your friend's safety, and while they may seem somewhat overkill, it's worth the small additional effort to protect your friend. Good luck.


[3 Points] dvrknvt:

I don't understand why these type of posts aren't removed. It's just a reverse engineered way to find out other vendors stealth making profiling so much easier.

Don't post stealth situation on public forms. These type of questions should be resolved between you your vendor/drop.


[2 Points] wishuwerethere:

So far, my best idea is:

put all the goodies in their baggies, wipe down with alcohol (should I vacuum seal??). maybe tuck those baggies into a bar of chocolate and a book.

pick up flat-rate mailers at a USPS. attach addresses printed by my home printer. pay postage in stamps.

toss into a random blue box somewhere.

Any other suggestions?


[2 Points] None:

First question is, what are you sending? If it's LSD you shouldn't have much to worry about. Second question, how much of these substances do you plan on sending? Wear gloves, and for gods sakes buy the package you are going to be sending in an anonymous manner, so if intercepted it can't be traced back to you. DO not track the package thru USPS, for the love of god do not do that.


[1 Points] TranniesMakeMeCum:

What kind of drugs?


[1 Points] None:

Handwriting is completely fine . Most people her disagree but for domestic if it's neat your fine.


[1 Points] islambolt:

If your sending something to a friend, why not get him a " gift " while your at it? Go to the store and buy him a fucking coffee maker, maybe a box of toothpaste idk, and just put what ever drugs your sending to him in that gift. Obviously hide it, but seeing as how your just sending to a friend I really wouldn't just randomly send out a package, especially if you don't know what your doing, it doesn't hurt to spend a few extra bucks on a gift for you friend I'm sure he will also appreciate it a lot as well!