So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

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Hash: SHA1

It has been a wild ride.
I write to you all today with heavy heart. I have decided to take down Grams and
all its' services one week from now. I have tried very hard to provide
the best services on the darknet.
Lately it has been more difficult to do this.
It has become too difficult to get the listings from the markets
and to keep up on even routine maintenance of the site.
I have had a hard year personally and financially.
This decision was not an easy one, but I believe it is what is best for me.
I hope for nothing but the best for all of you in the darknet world.

I will give all our users a week to withdrawal their funds from their accounts.
Helix Light will be disabled 24 hours before shutdown. This provides
ample time for any late transactions to go through before the shutdown.
Any bitcoin left on the site after Grams is shut down on 16-12-2017 will be
sent to several donation sites.

If you would like to suggest any sites that accept bitcoins
and are worthy of donations please do so below in the comments.

Stay safe out there!

Cheers,
GramsAdmin
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Comments


[213 Points] yololeif:

I say use the leftover bits for yourself


[93 Points] None:

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[58 Points] savingfluffybunnies:

Thanks for everything! I've used your site frequently to compare keys and without you quite a void will be left to fill. I see countless vendor profiles with your links in it which shows how invaluable you've become to us. I'm beyond saddened to see you go as trustworthy folk are precious to us. I know that you take this decision heavily and for that I wish you the best in what's to come and I'm sure everybody in the community does as well.

Many thanks! You'll always be remembered. I also hope you dump your data some how as it is invaluable content to us. I suggest you send the excess btc to the DNM Avengers personally as it will benefit us all and you can see the results on your efforts.


[44 Points] Avengerhack:

/u/gramsadmin

While I can understand your situation and the work dedicated towards building Grams and it's subsidiary services. A better option would be to launch some form of campaign where users can donate for the service to stay online.

Grams is the only tool which provide users to authenticate legitimate vendors who has past transactions on other marketplaces. Darkweb has already seen too many sunken ships over the past couple of months, and with a service such as Grams shutting down will leave a very dark and empty cloud.

Personally, I would donate towards keeping the service online, I am sure many other users who find Grams resourceful would do the same. If not, I hope you plan on taking the project open-source so someone else can continue and hopefully make improvements which could further benefit the darkweb community.

I've left you a message in the inbox as well.


[37 Points] cat-gun:

Aw, sorry to see you go. Thanks for providing such great service for so long.

If you have bitcoin to donate, may I suggest MAPS (https://www.maps.org)?


[25 Points] TheBookofTor:

I'm working on a website named ''The ARK''. I could use a copy of the sql database and upload it directly to the Ark. In this way, we can still continue the PGP check from Grams. You can find the link to the Ark in my subreddit. /r/ARKdirectory

I'm not going to take the credits for your hard work though. I will make sure that anyone who ever visits the Ark, will honor you and knows that you are the original creator of the database.

Send me a PM if you are willing to help :)

Anyhow, thanks a lot for the service. You are a legend on the Darknet.

EDIT! If you are dumping the sql publicly, sign a message with your PGP, with the MD5 hash attached from the original file. Just in case if anyone is going to try to change the data inside the dump. If someone downloads the dump, they can verify that it's from you and not someone else, by checking the MD5 with the signed message.


[25 Points] LubeUpTheOPSEC:

Goodnight, sweet prince.


[25 Points] None:

Wow. You provided a wonderful service. Where will i verify pgp keys now? I wish you all the best, and can think of no better relevant causes than Tor and Tails. And eff. Take care of yourself, friend


[18 Points] eyekantbeme:

Leave us a Bitcoin address for us to donate to you for your work over the years. I've used Grams so many times. My favorite was when you searched CP a year or so ago haha I think I have a pic of that

edit: HERE it is! https://i.imgur.com/A0TfyMf.png


[16 Points] subutextual:

This makes me really sad. :( Only tumbler I trusted. Where to now?


[11 Points] KnowsAboutShrooms:

Well done sir. Thank you for your efforts over the last few years, You had an original product that was needed and respected.

Will you leave the historic vendor data that have accumulated in a database for posterity?


[11 Points] Trip-Trooper:

damn thats hard to accept.

grams was such a important thing to me.

all the best to you, grams-admin.


[5 Points] None:

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[5 Points] SingleTabs_Vendor:

Thank you for the service you provided to the community. If you're having a hard time financially right now, I would say use any leftover money to repair your own life as needed,

Also, I second the request to please make the data available in an archives perhaps, one day?


[6 Points] BikiniBottom2k:

Wow Helix light was flawless. RIP. Its a sad time for DNMs.


[4 Points] versaceodh:

Thank you for your service.


[4 Points] Al1ce1nunderland:

Ah no :( I will miss telling people to go check out your site (and using it myself).

But thank you for all your services! And I wish you all the best in the world!


[6 Points] SingleTabs_Vendor:

Nonsense anyway. Great service disappears, new immature mods are added the the sub.


[3 Points] SuggestiveDetective:

❤ I'll miss you.


[3 Points] FantazySpace:

Sorry to hear you're leaving. I hope The Ark will do this job as good as you did.


[3 Points] exmachinalibertas:

Godspeed. It's been a wild ride since the early days and you were one of few beacons of trustworthiness and integrity in an otherwise cutthroat wild west. We wish you all the best, and if you ever need anything, you've got more friends than you know.

☮peace☮


[3 Points] notamushroomshill:

F

I will send you some good vibes next times I'm exploring the multiverse on Ketamine.


[3 Points] LSDoodleBob:

Damn....infodesk was a handy tool


[3 Points] DeadWifeHappyLife:

Damn I remember seeing you launch, now I'm watching you close up shop, very sad honestly. You will be missed along with your services. Wish you all the best in your life.


[3 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

Good luck brotha. Any thoughts about passing the torch to a worthy successor rather than shutting down entirely?


[3 Points] Officer_Coldhonkey:

Uhh fuckin keep whatever is left. You've earned that shit.


[3 Points] ksosk:

So long to the hacker ;) who dedicated their time to creating an invaluable search engine that helped indirectly facilitate transactions between participants of the digital drug revolution.

See you!


[2 Points] JeffSessions_DNM:

Thank you for your hard work! Your service will be missed!


[2 Points] Intergalactic_Reborn:

So beautiful :,) You will be missed.


[2 Points] anon1901:

This actually makes me FSTW. I trust your service & you more then a lot of people. IDK what im going to do when I have to double check a PGP key...

You have earned a rank amongst the legends (Agora, BMR) & will truly be missed.

You do not deserve to have money problems. I hope nothing but the best for you. May you be blessed this holiday season.


[2 Points] Spa__ce:

It's fitting that one of the best darknet services goes out with a quote from one of the best books. You are a dolphin and it dark net filled with average people. Remember don't panic and good luck in life the universe and everything


[2 Points] STFUMandy:

Gramy Bears :')


[2 Points] ILoveOGKush:

Thanks for providing a very valuable service and product to the dark web. Grams will be missed. Good luck in your future man.


[2 Points] theshadowfax:

Would you consider training a replacement or trying to set something up to be continued? I know it's a lot to ask but Helix is one of the best ways of washing coins. Please at least consider it.


[2 Points] MrSaturnAnswers:

Going out with integrity, gotta love it!!


[2 Points] treedoor1:

Grams was a great service, thanks for the hard work.


[2 Points] scattrbrn:

Thanks for the service, it will be missed.


[2 Points] None:

Great exit by someone who ran a great service. Thanks, and take care- I hope your troubles are soon left in the dust. Cheers!


[2 Points] dnaguey:

fuck, and along will crumble all of dnm :/ thanks man, glad I got to live through this whole experience!


[2 Points] urbananimall:

Thank you for your service.


[2 Points] hhayn:

Thanks for your service to and support of the DNM community. You will be missed.

Unpleasant times, these.

Stay gold Ponyboy.

Edit: I would say keep any leftovers. In a scene that so frequently rewards scammers it would be nice to see someone rewarded because they did the right thing.


[2 Points] FuckfuckySucksucky:

I'd like to recommend Doctors Without Borders for your donation. I've heard it's very well managed and most of the money is actually used to help people that truly need it.

Use what some of society sees as dirty money for the best cause imaginable!

Reseach something before you drop big money. Make sure it makes it where it needs to go.

Thanks man!


[2 Points] LibertasOfficial:

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Hash: SHA512

All vendors, 

Please apply to Libertas before grams shuts down, 
unless you have account’s on a current operational DNM that contains your stats. 

As we at Libertas use grams to verify vendors we 
will not be able to verify you any longer via grams. 

Best Regards.
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[2 Points] -FFUK-:

/u/gramsadmin

I have had a helix unconfirmed for over 24 hours, what will happen if you take the site down before it is confirmed?


[2 Points] Iehova_reddit:

I'm very sorry you're taking down your great service. At the moment, I still have several payments unconfirmed (the oldest one is from the 6th December and it's still waiting for 2 confirmations to begin processing. It's almost 10 days ago and still nothing...). What am I supposed to do? Will I lose this money? It's a lot of bitcoins. I have no idea why these helix payments haven't been processed yet. On the Status Page of all these transfers, I can see that the payment was received by helix, but they're all "WAITING FOR CONFIRMATIONS". Will I get my bitcoins? I really need this money. It's very important for me. Thanks in advance for letting me know


[1 Points] StuxianNightmare:

We all appreciate your service, and are sad to see you go. please dont hesitate to use any remaining funds for yourself!

If you insist on donations, tails, tor or the eff foundations will help the dnm scene

I suggest the Against Malaria foundation as an alternative donation- malaria is a leading killer in africa and it only takes 4~ $ to distribute one net to individuals in africa, Against Malaria is one of the top non profits according to givewell.org which tracks non profit efficacy, value and accountability

How much data is there to dump? For posterity if you can spare a few minutes of your time, you could zip it all up and create an Onionshare- and share the onionshare over the next week and allow anyone who wants to store the original to download it

That way this information doesnt get lost, and hopefully we will find a few more to pass the baton to

Good luck to you


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] bloatedfrog:

I’ve never used grams but thank you for your service to the community


[1 Points] freshlysquosed:

How do you have financial issues if you've been earning bitcoins for years now?


[1 Points] None:

Very sad to see you go , your service has been invaluable to me and to many others no doubt , easy to check a vendors pgp , and helix i will miss a lot as well that was a great service. I even had a go on the grams lottery a time or two never won anything though. Thanks for everything and good luck in life . Is there no possible way you can continue? Sorry had to ask . Best wishes sincerely and nice thread title btw , are you zaphod on another site ?


[1 Points] Ziiiiik:

What tool did you use to get all of the information on your site? Likedid you use a crawler/scraper?


[1 Points] FunkyJallday:

This sucks. But I understand. Thanks u really helped out back in my infancy


[1 Points] pymmit:

/u/gramsadmin

I will donate use of my premium mega.nz for uploading SQL database, or just make a torrent file.


[1 Points] BlackGoatSemen:

Wow. Wish you had someone trustworthy that you could hand the reigns over too. Your service has helped so many people from getting scammed, and mixed up a butt-load of coin for all of us.

Thanks for the heads up!

You will be missed.


[1 Points] None:

goddamn. all these DNM users pouring their hearts out in the comments, I think I shed a tear or two lol sorry to see you go gramsA, your service was fair and impeccable. I wont call it an exit scam only when you do it. you deserve it. get yourself a BIG BALL A CRACKK


[0 Points] Chardlz:

Mayan Families. They're a charity helping to build up Guatemala where the government won't. Wonderful group that would do some real good with the money. Let me know if you need help getting in touch with them if you decide to go this route.


[0 Points] kilogrammes:

finally


[-4 Points] Funnyguye85:

NOOOOOOO. YOU CANT GO. Saving fluffy will suck your dang dang so good you will marry the fucker.