Would like to be Non-Profit Vendor. Need suggestions.

EDIT #5: I'm very sorry. I believe my ban has been lifted, but I had things I had to take care of and couldn't respond. I'll be back in a few hours to respond to everything. Thank you!


My goal is to get as many helpful drugs into as many hands as possible. I would like to give it all away for free, but that doesn't seem sustainable. So far, the best I can come up with is to simply buy in bulk, and sell at cost plus expenses/overhead.

Does anyone else have any ideas on how I can decrease cost and price?

I intend to source as many chemicals from PIHKAL and TIHKAL as I can find, and then distribute them as cheaply as I possibly can. There will be no bulk discounts for my customers. I will just offer single doses for whatever the bulk rate would be, and everyone can purchase as many doses as they would like. The only markup will be to cover the cost of delivery, shipping, packaging supplies, rent for work house, and food for employees.

Most supplies can be purchased on Amazon.com with re-ships and refunds. So Amazon.com's generosity will help with some of the overhead.

What else can I do to get the community product for less?

I had considered relying on donations alone, but if I were to receive no donations, the business would fail and everyone would lose.

With what I have come up with so far, here are the prices I believe I would be able to offer per dose.

LSD (100ug) - $2
MDMA (100mg) - $1.5
MDA (75mg) - $3.50
XTC Press (220mg) - $5
Cannabis (1 g) - $3.50
Mushrooms (3.5g) - $7.50
2C-B (15mg) - $2

There would also be many more chemicals, like 4-AcO-DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, 5-MeO-DiPT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 2C-E, 2C-I, 2C-P, etc etc but I do not have all prices in front of me at the moment.

You would have to also pay for shipping, and that would be US Domestic only (most likely). $5.95 for larger orders, $3 for small orders

Help me find a way to lower my prices?

What else can I do?

Thanks


EDIT #1:

I have a limited supply of Orange Teslas, and plenty of very high purity MDMA. Tell me where you would like to see me vend, and I will have posts up this week. I will need to add a small markup temporarily in order to cover the cost of start up, and to get new product. But, every time a new product is introduced, the prices for all products will go down.

For instance. Right now I have 500 Teslas and 250g MDMA. In order to cover the cost of 1 LB of Cannabis, I will need to add $2/g to the MDMA and $1/pill of the Teslas. Then, once $1,000 has been grossed, in order to compensate the grower for 1 LB of weed, the prices will come down slightly, and weed will be offered at $5/g. Then, once enough is brought in again, a new product will be sourced, and all prices will go down a little bit more. Once all products have been funded, the prices should level out as listed above.


EDIT #2:

I would like to set up my own vendor shop, to avoid market down times and admin scamming. If anyone has any suggestions for this that doesn't involve scammers like Cyrus and Dark Net Solutions, please let me know.

Does anyone know about the viability of creating a simple ZeroNet site to distribute my menu and contact info? If it can be securely and anonymously on ZeroNet, customers can use that to contact me via email and place a direct order. This would serve to further lower prices, as I would not need to pay market commission or worry about losing escrowed funds.


EDIT #3: I forgot to mention. . . so long as I understand "Bitcoin Armory" correctly (and it continues to be developed), I will be offering MULTI-SIG transactions. Most likely 2-of-2. You place your order, and as long as you are satisfied, you complete payment. If you are not satisfied, then I will give you your money back. I don't envision coming across any situations where the bitcoins are lost forever.

Please let me know if I am missing anything. I don't believe we need to place our trust in third parties. I also assume that eventually, repeat customers will choose to skip the extra hassle and simply pay directly. But the choice is theirs.

I will also write up a multi-sig tutorial and have it as a part of my personal webpage (hopefully hosted on Tor, ZeroNet and I2P).


Comments


[49 Points] LedLevee:

Why would anyone take the risk for no gain?

Calling BS on this lol.


[10 Points] zman3000:

Op is either a cop , serial killer planning a mass murder with poison, or is a flaming homosexual who cant wait to go to prison.


[11 Points] Sex4days:

why would you risk life in prison with multiple drug charges, distribution of scheduled drugs etc for 2.5$


[6 Points] magiclampcompany:

I'm on board to help distribute bud and oil at sustainable prices to you as long as you can prove to me in the long-run that you're truly non-profit. Email me if you'd like to work something out, contactthelamp@sigaint.org


[3 Points] Trappy_Pandora:

Buy in bigger bulk to get a better discount?


[3 Points] TheDankQuest:

ship worldwide please :(


[3 Points] LORD-OF-EDGE:

Well fuck everything about this. The Mother fucking Teresa of the DNM wants to start a crusade here. I don't think the other vendors are going to like this shit.


[3 Points] sayyywhuuut:

I smell Bruce. Anyone else?


[3 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

Pihkal and Tihkal AREN'T drug sources. They are books.

The darknet doesn't owe anybody a living, you should know that by now. You have to have something to sell. Just because you see every substance on ECPlaza, it doesn't mean you can actually get it.

Scammers always sell products at cost or below, because there ARE NO PRODUCTS.

As for the marketplace, just use the one you used last time you were a vendor. Or the one you bought the MDMA on.


[2 Points] Kazaa99:

These doesnt seem like helpfull drugs, i mean maybe if it was antabuse for alcoholics, methadone,subutex and naloxone for heroin addicts, possibly antideppresants, but mdma and lsd as helpfull?


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] tango1alpha:

You're forgetting one of the most helpful drugs of all... Meth. My suggestion is that you add Meth to your list of drugs and here’s why:

 

I used to suffer from extreme fatigue, ADD and alcoholism. Meth makes it so that I can get out of bed, focus on the days tasks and it cuts any desire or craving for alcohol by about 90%. I only drink about once a month now, (2-3 drinks in a social setting, where I used to drink 3-4 times a week usually alone and would sometimes would go on 3 day alcohol binges without sleep.

 

Since I moved I’ve had to turn to DNM’s and the cost is ridiculous compared to what I used to pay. Once in awhile I can find a good deal, but back in my hometown, jibs are plentiful, good quality and cheap. I usually buy large amounts (14g or more) for personal consumption. I find the entire process of ordering on DNMs time consuming and a pain in the ass so I prefer to do as infrequently as possible. Also, it saves me a few bucks (not much tho, usually brings the price of half gram from $45 down to $35).

 

I've been using for more than 10 years and have quit a few times but each time I would be very unsatisfied with my quality of life. Even after a year of not doing I am unable to get out of bed for days on end and when I can get up, I can’t provide lasting attention to any task. I end up getting frustrated and giving up or turning to alcohol which for some reason, gives me a lot of energy. But after about 3-4 drinks my level of ability quickly diminishes, by 6 or 7 I’m basically worthless for any cognitive task but can still do mundane chores such as laundry, clean, grocery shop etc.

 

I’ve always gone back to Meth, but not for the reasons that most people do. I don’t do it to get high, I mean if I do, sure that’s great, but I rarely get high anymore, and I know that I am getting some pretty damn good jib these days so it’s definitely not the quality of the product. The reason I go back is so that I can live a normal life. I can be a productive member of society, contribute to my community and do the things a wife should.

 

I almost exclusively use Meth. Once in a while I will do a few doses of GHB when I feel like having a good time. Usually in a social setting where everyone else is drinking. I rarely do MDMA, once every 2 years or something. I don’t smoke marijuana and I don’t need or use benzos or opiates or any other drug.

 

As for my personality. i don’t possess any of the shady Meth personality attributes that usually come with using this drug. I am honest, loyal, reliable, intelligent. If i had to pick out some bad attributes Meth has given me I would say, impatience and I can’t fucking stand people anymore. I think I have always been impatient, goes along with ADD, but Meth heightens it. As for hating people, it’s not everyone, I just hate rude, dumb, ignorant people which for some reason seems to be the majority of the population these days.

 

I eat 2-3 meals a day and sleep about 8 hours a night. Very few people know that I am on it, when I disclose to them that I am and always have been a user, they are literally shocked. I don’t tell many people, but when I have they usually don’t believe me at first.

 

I know that I don’t fit into the category of a “typical meth user” and my experiences are somewhat unique. However I know that I am not the only person out there like this. Years ago I had a group of friends in my hometown that were using and some of them went on to become sketch balls, some of them quit, but a few of them carry on just like I do. Some of them even have 9 to 5 jobs and families now. I don’t think they suffer from the same fatigue and focus issues that I do, I think most of them do it to get high, but they are least functional.

 

Anyhow, I’m getting slightly off topic. My point is that Meth gets a bad rep but can be just as helpful as any other drug you’ve mentioned if used responsibly as needed. And yes, I know about the damage that years of Meth abuse can do to someone, but there are ways to counteract and slow down that process.

 

Simple harm reduction such as:

Eating healthy

Sleeping

Staying hydrated

Regular Bowel Movements

Taking vitamins/supplements

Oral Hygiene and just Hygiene in general

 

Quality of Product. Yes this does matter. Clean crystal can clear mind fog. Scattered thoughts align and form easily organizable details and are followed by ideas, solutions etc.

 

Also the method of administration is very important. In my senior years of use, I now choose to ingest it for the lowest amount neurological toxicity damage. If you smoke or inject it, you can forget about being a 100% responsible user, even snorting it (my old preferred method) is sketchy and will fuck up your nasal passages so badly… You will regret it later if you snort for many years.

 

The most important harm reduction tip I could ever pass on is listen to your body. Pay attention to it’s signals, go to the doctor if you need to, and for god’s sake, brush your teeth at least twice a day and see a dentist every 6 months.

 

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford what I need, so I probably won’t use your service, because if you are serious, I don’t want to use resources that others actually need. However, in conclusion, Meth helps me, and honestly makes me a better person. You should consider helping people like me that are less fortunate than I and can’t afford good quality product.


[2 Points] DHLMarket:

Here's what I see going on here.

You, for whatever reason, would like to distribute as much of these drugs in as expeditious and cheap a manner as possible. You want to setup your own vendor shop to avoid complications brought about by using markets as a middle-man.

Here's the various consequences that result in your actions:

As another has said, if it's too good to be true, it's most likely not. This applies ten-fold to DNMs. I do believe that people exist in this world that are this generous enough to do something like this, but inherently, in order to survive on DNMs, everyone needs to take everything with a grain of salt. It would take quite a bit for trust to be gained, and even then I still bet everyone would be skeptical (as they should).

Can you please explain exactly why you would like to provide this service? Do you just genuinely believe that these drugs should be readily available and should be just really cheap?

EDIT: Excuse my skepticism. I believe in the cause you're trying to fight for, I truly do. But you should be able to understand how unreal this seems. This could simply be a social engineering attempt to make quick money.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] CumberlandGap:

Step 1: sign up for an economics class at your local community college

seriously, if this is legit how are you going to limit customers? are you going to quota orders? are you going to spend all day packing/shipping/replying to pm's for free? you wouldn't be able to hold this together for a day by yourself, and you wouldn't last a month with a dozen employees. learn about supply and demand and figure out a more realistic strategy, if you can provide competitive pricing while still keeping up you'll be doing a greater service for the community than whatever this is ^


[1 Points] None:

do wonders ever cease?


[1 Points] neilyasno:

Which market do you plan on setting up shop on?


[1 Points] bartada:

This does not make any sense - smelss like scam to me


[1 Points] yalldontknowjack:

If you did this, you would be one of the few non-profits not making a profit. Look up the payroll for some non-profits and better yet not-for-profit.


[1 Points] f_leaver:

I personally doubt you're for real, but if you are, you should set a reasonable maximum amount buyers can get of each product. Otherwise you'll get inundated with re-sellers trying to make a quick and easy buck off your back.


[1 Points] ParanoiaCat:

Sounds like day dreaming to me.


[1 Points] Quiglesigles:

If you are being serious I would purchase from you exclusively. Somehow I find this hard to believe.


[1 Points] None:

I find this hard to believe, but those prices though...jesus. $2 per tab, eighth of shrooms for $7.50, and a gram of kush for $3.50...thats crazy talk

edit: and doesn't want to be on a market..hmmm.


[1 Points] None:

I would trust you more if you were in it for profit or ideals. If you want to help people the darknet is not the place to set about it by any means.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] WeAreTheBoys:

This sounds like a textbook example of predatory pricing.


[1 Points] wimblamflamslam:

OP I just wanna say I back you entirely. I know people are calling bullshit (which I suppose is completely okay given that this is the darknet and all) but I've met plenty of people who sell at break even prices just to spread what they believe in. If you had good product/OPSEC I would be your best customer.

I would look into limiting purchases/customers, however. HoS sold acid at ridiculously low prices and got swamped and became very inconsistent. Sometimes too much business is as bad as not enough, and I can see the same thing happening here.


[1 Points] None:

sure it's a nice thing to do. but if this takes off and you become known, will you really be able to do this as " not for profit" ? you'd probably be better opening your own site and doing this.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] DnmAvenger:

If you do setup shop let me know, and if you have a bomb cocaine hook up at cost then God bless you. This sounds farfetched but I am never one to kill a man's dream.

Let me know what you decide to do and we can set some things up to help you out at the DNM AVengers forums. First off if you send in samples for testing to EC we will reimburse you 100% of the testing cost until we run out of funds!!! Just a thought. Good luck!!


[1 Points] Psychede1icacy:

Pm'd OP.. id be willing to donate to get this started.. is anyone else?


[1 Points] kingosofa:

could you please sell ketamine?


[1 Points] MOTHERTREESAGREEN:

1 vote for troll of the year. Will loose his shit after one week of dealing with pm's alone not to mention everything else that will come with it. Why not charge the market rate or slightly under and donate all profits to charity instead, derrr.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] WeAreTheBoys:

I just got the remindme notification, any updates?


[1 Points] bipboopbapbeep:

Do you have a projected launch date? I've been saving my BTC waiting for you! Good thing BTC has risen since you posted this hehe.


[0 Points] None:

this is really important, send me a message teh second these listings are up, I will literally chop off both my testicles for these prices


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] None:

um, I dont know what to take from this. I hope youre doing this for benelovent reasons, in which case, good luck!


[-1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

This morning, Hank_vendor received an invitation to be a moderator on a sub called something like BBMC_street_team.

Nothing to do with me, it is just a sub which disgraced RC vendor Umbreon has created, as the "stick" in a carrot & stick deal I was offered, via Hank, today.

Umbreon says that /u/Uncle_Unicorn isn't him, but is a good friend of his who is upset. Why? Because I answer "her" back when she and Umbreon troll me. I can believe they are friends, because when Umbreon is drunk and crazy, so is Uncle_Unicorn.

If I didn't agree to this deal, umbreon will destroy me (on Reddit, I guess) by pretending to be me. If I accept, he promised to go away and never come back.

"Worth it", I thought. "Who cares if Uncle_Umbreon was the only female SR forum moderator?".

Unfortunately, it's too obvious that this chump with his evolving tall tail is Umbreon. So the deal is off. Remember this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3mmpxr/an_open_letter_to_vendor_bbmc/


[-2 Points] nick99699:

Idk why when people try to help. They get bashed for it. "CALLING BS ON THIS" "Top good to be true"... like stfu you Lil kids. How but this. How but you shut your whiney ass mouths, sit the fuck back, and see if he follows thru maybe? I reallly don't think people have the power to determine BS in 2 seconds... cmon ppl. Why yall always gotta bash on new ideas? Fuck it if he don't gain much. He said he's tryna help... but God forbid. No such thing as help" on here, right? Get over yourselves....