Foiled a Controlled Delivery?

I have a friend who has been ordering small amounts of substances for personal use for some time from multiple markets. Last week, the postman came up to the door and asked for signature on one of the packages (package was expected, signature was not). Signature was refused by his assistant and afterwards nothing happened, but since package was tracked and vendor saw package refused, order was refunded. Several packages were in shipment at the time and none have been delivered since. No love letter, and regular mail keeps coming.

Was this a foiled CD or is he just being paranoid? He's been scared shitless ever since, but needs his meds to keep PAWS away.


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[16 Points] None:

Wait a minute.. Did your friend use a fake name but his actual address? If so, I can guarantee you this is what happened:

A new-ish carrier on his route noticed that a different name is on a couple packages to an address that doesn't match the name they have on record and doesn't get other mail. And they do keep track of this.

The carrier wondered if the name was possibly a former resident with an expired forwarding order. The signature wasn't a controlled delivery - it's him confirming that the package was accepted at that house in case the "former resident" called to find out where his packages are.

You refused delivery, and the carrier will update the names on that address. Any packages from here on out addressed to that name will be returned, no attempt to deliver to your house as he now knows that name isn't correct.

This includes the other inbound packages he's expecting. They will ALL be marked "return to sender," meaning all the vendors he has orders in to will need to be notified their return addresses are burned.

Your friend owes the vendor an apology and for Christ's sake, return the coins. And release escrow for the other orders and apologize to them while letting them know he fucked them over by burning their return addresses as well.

It's common knowledge to never use a fake name without also first priming the carrier to be used to that name. THIS is why. One seemingly innocent mistake falsely believing that it increases your security, and you've screwed over a few vendors in one fell swoop.

Please do the right thing and notify the vendors, and give them their funds. It's not their mistake or responsibility if they shipped to the name and address you gave them.


[14 Points] -FreewayRickRoss:

This post makes me wanna go for a SWIM.


[11 Points] Clean-House:

Several packages were in shipment at the time and none have been delivered since.

CLEAN HOUSE.


[7 Points] None:

It's impossible to know. It was smart to have refused the package, definitely It's been shown that a signature is NOT required for CD, though. If he is expecting future packages, I would absolutely write "return to sender" and put them in outgoing mail immediately should they show up. I don't believe that is a foolproof way to attain plausible deniability, especially if there are multiple packages, but I do believe it can't hurt. I just wouldn't keep them around for any amount of time. Screw losing the money.

It's also a good idea to clean up the house and immediately stop ordering to that address. Withdrawal sucks, but withdrawing in a jail cell would be about a hundred times worse.

EDIT: Read my other reply to this thread. What OP originally stated wasn't the whole story. It doesn't appear to have been a CD; it appears to have been a case of using a false name.


[1 Points] FarGateTraveler:

Could be a cd.. Wait a couple more weeks to see if the other packages that are supposed to be in transit end up showing up. At least your vendor gave your money back all on his own. message him maybe and explain what happened. then go leave him some good feed back explaining the situation. Also don't forget to clean house. And once it's nice and clean you should burn it for good measures ahaha


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] 34uand34me:

So lots of folks are jumping to conclusions and I want to clarify that what I was trying to do is show my friend (this actually was my friend and not just SWIM or I would have said so) that he may be paranoid because he just about shit himself and contacted vendors (or tried) for orders in process to let them know that he thought a vendor shipped and required signature (vendors note that its important to update shipping status promptly on the markets). He used a name that happens to be shared in his family, which made it very convenient for him to ship using "his" name, and avoid fraud charges and at the same time deny shipments, if the situation that did occur ever happened.

For all of you jumping to conclusions - fuck off. This guys has plenty of experience recieving, and even vendor experience, and I assure you he did his due diligence and contacted vendors to let them know the situation and NEVER EVEN ASKED for refund. The only refund he got was from one vendor, WHO PROBABLY FUCKED UP and sent a shipment where signature was needed.

That is all. Hope that helps you conclusion-jumping-to-assholes.