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[–]Going_to_shreveport 36 points37 points  (45 children)

How did he get busted? was his package not stealth enough?

[–]Going_to_shreveport 10 points11 points  (0 children)

ouch.

[–]monsieurpommefrites 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The people closest to you can hurt you the most.

[–]NeonDiseaseStill unsure if im willing to risk ordering 18 points19 points  (6 children)

"A mad woman will ALWAYS rat you out to the cops and then complain when you get arrested."

[–]The_Funky_Shaman 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Not Amy

[–]splein23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or Zelda. Might want to skip to the domestic disturbance part.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I went to Europe with my bro, he had already been there 2 weeks and I was staying 3 with him and then he was going to come back. He was on unemployment insurance at the time and apparently 3 weeks was too long for his idiot girlfriend to wait so she called the unemployment office and ratted him out. Her thinking was that it would force him to go home early, nope. He just started mooching off of me. God dammit.

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's the truth, Truth!

[–]doontmindme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is what my dad taught me haha

[–]fuckoffplsthankyou 4 points5 points  (6 children)

That's fucked up, my SO knows a lot about what I do....

Good advice tho.

[–]ThisBadUsername 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So does the cOP

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Be careful. If she is reasonable she will understand staying out of it protects her as well as you.

[–]fuckoffplsthankyou 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She's extremely reasonable and I'm pretty sure would understand.

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then you have a good woman. Cherish her.

[–]i-i-i-iwanttheknife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's usually better to leave them in the dark, and to tell them you're leaving them in the dark. In the end, they can spill the beans or be put in a situation where they are forced to choose between spilling the beans or being dishonest to cover for you. Leaving them in the dark is good for you and them, unfortunately.

[–]hawtdawgspudder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just dumped my girl. Her sister is a cop O.o

[–]SoCo_cpp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This seems the only think worth asking, "how did you fuck up?"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Why on earth are you going to Shreveport?

[–]Going_to_shreveport 5 points6 points  (2 children)

oh man its a big inside joke with my friends, but as you're probably aware, there is nothing there! hahaha

[–]slavishspoon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I live in shreveport and take offense to that.

[–]Going_to_shreveport 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol. Its true tho.

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the kind words.

[–]NeonDiseaseStill unsure if im willing to risk ordering 61 points62 points  (3 children)

"The only people who should know that you do drugs, are the people you do drugs with."

Best advice I ever got.

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

And some of them shouldn't. I freak every time a face I know pops up in cuffs.

[–]heroinkingI'd rather fly than feel the pain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

doesnt really work like that if you sell drugs

[–]doublemintt 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Goddamnn. Fuck like 98.5% ppl on this subreddit. So ungrateful for good info

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Thank you. I pity the immature more than dislike them. If you never learn you never stop paying for the same mistakes. I hate seeing people who are lumped in a group and judged by the worst of it doing the same to the next group/person.

Edit: pitty to pity.

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jus' call me fiddy, 'cause I type with a limp.

[–]011010110 17 points18 points  (6 children)

sounds like he didnt fuck up with his online work but AFK shit caught up with him.

[–]feignrmk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much every silk road/dark web bust I've read about since Ulbricht went down has boiled down to this. People get complacent and lazy with their OPSEC because they believe that what they are doing online is invisible. So they send packages with real return addresses, or rent mailboxes with their actual identities, or they just get generally sloppy and start leaving incriminating shit laying around in the open.

People would do well to remember that there is a freakin' war on, and we're the rebel troops being hunted by the empire. Like literally.

I used to think that the main harm related to drugs was health and safety and that all I needed to do was mitigate the risks around those issues... always use drugs from trusted sources, stay away from things that are really addictive, or have easy overdose potential, etc. etc. But now I know better. The main risk involved in all of this is losing your fucking freedom for a significant portion of the rest of your life.

[–]quigs01 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Beautiful use of AFK

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like most busts are due to real-life activity. Gotta watch those loose ends.

[–]earthmoonsun 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Which market did he use? Sh,BMR,SR?

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Sheep. That had nothing to do with his bust though.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How did you find out he used Sheep? Did he complete spill the beans?

[–]th3gutgrinder[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He spoke to me about it. I have a reputation of being honest when I tell an inmate they are speaking in confidence.

[–]lucasjkr 33 points34 points  (12 children)

You guys (all the people replying here) could stand to possibly learn something important here. Instead, hurling insults is the best you can do?

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    [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    I only have two accounts and they never post in the same subs.

    [–][deleted]  (31 children)

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      [–]monsieurpommefrites 3 points4 points  (10 children)

      2 POUNDS OF DRUGS?!?! Well, if that didn't set off any alarms then I'd be mighty surprised.

      Were these intercepted by drug dogs or random inspections, i.e: how was the package ascertained to contain contraband?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

      The unopened package was found by dogs. His normal stash was pinpointed by the CI aka girlfriend.

      [–]hawtdawgspudder 5 points6 points  (5 children)

      What a cunt of a "girlfriend".

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

      Women are the downfall of most men.

      [–]iShootDope_AmA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Hell hath no fury...

      [–]EntarteteJungvolk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Honestly, it's his own fault. If you're in that line of work you shouldn't tell ANYONE except business partners.

      [–]KitchenWhippin101 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

      that aint no woman. that's a cold blooded bitch. what an idiot for having a snitch girlfriend. he should put her in the gutter.

      [–]hawtdawgspudder -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

      Yeah thats why i just got rid of mine. Thanks for posting this mate.

      [–]yeradolt 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      It was weed. I would characterize that as a small amount.

      Sounds like there were no red flags, his gf created the investigation... not like the dea was on him.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I don't know about you dude, but 2 pounds is in no way a small amount :)

      [–]yeradolt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Yeah if you work with children I guess it isn't. Personally ordering something in the mail that would last me the afternoon doesn't seem like a good idea. That being said a 2lb pickup can hardly be considered crazy.

      [–]SRxoxoxoxoxo 1 point2 points  (10 children)

      This is interesting. Are you saying that as a C.O you are under no obligation to report incriminating information obtained from inmates to your superior? Im asking this as a hypothetical because in this case the fact that he bought drugs from sheep will probably be immaterial to his case. But say an inmate told you about an ongoing criminal operation etc.

      Thanks for your time

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

      I don't know any more than the cops do other than who facilitated the trade resulting in the package. I don't know the source. Pretty useless info. As far as what I am required to report, we have the same flexible use of judgement officers on the road do. The only thing I am 100% required to report are crimes or threats of crimes/self harm in my facility. I don't tell them where I buy mine, not telling them where he gets his.

      Repeat, CO's aren't beat cops.

      [–]born2lovevolcanos 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I find this interesting. Do you know of any other COs that use? What about regular cops? I'm sure there are some, but I'm curious how widespread it is.

      [–]EntarteteJungvolk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's not widely common, but a small percent definitely partake in some drugs. Ever hear about people getting pulled over and having their drugs confiscated with only a warning? If the officer doesn't report the incident he can easily pocket the drugs and carry on. Here is the infamous 911 call from a police officer who thought he dying from stolen weed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kTZRcKZ6Y

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yes yes and not very.

      [–]WindWalkerWhoosh 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      He's not a cop. Sure it's probably in the rules, but they don't fucking care.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What substance? And are dogs typically trained to smell for MDMA?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Cannabis. I don't know about MDMA but my guess is yes.

      [–]untaMe610 12 points13 points  (4 children)

      I've been locked up never held it against the COs. Seems like we got some hardcore internet gangsters in here. Thanks for the thread OP.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

      You're the kind of person that makes my job worthwhile. These guys are probably the door warriors that kept you up at night.

      [–]untaMe610 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      COs were always fair to me, but I just worked out, read, kept my mouth shut and did my time. Sure some of them were assholes but for the most part just guys working a job to take care of their families. People with this ignorant its the mans fault mentality are sure to see the inside of a cell again before long.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      And even if a cop fucked you, we didn't and can't change it.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (11 children)

      Holy shit... There are some real assholes in this subreddit... And much more extremist views than I anticipated.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 14 points15 points  (10 children)

      They are what we call door warriors. Docile when you can get your hands on them but tough shit when they have a safety net.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      I think they've been taking too many life lessons from GTA.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      These guys would get eaten by the men they are defending, and the very same men have defended me because they understand the value of a good person in the system. Inmates don't alienate me on the street because they're glad to see me on lockup.

      [–]earthmoonsun 3 points4 points  (11 children)

      how long will he stay?

      [–]obsidianchaoDiddly Dank 4 points5 points  (22 children)

      You're probably the first genuinely "nice" (well, as nice as you can be in a job like that) CO I've heard of. My experience with most of them has been... unpleasant.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 18 points19 points  (18 children)

      Unfortunately the job draws weak people who can't gain power elsewhere. I would've thought the sub would be happy to know they had friends in blue. I'm also a member of LEAP.

      [–]reaperx2 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      What is leap?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. What I believe to be one of your biggest allies.

      [–]AliceBTolkas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      No doubt, you are one of the good guys. Much thx and respect

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

      But aren't you part of the machine that is locking these people up? I guess the real question is: what is your specific role within corrections? Parole officer? Prison guard?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 7 points8 points  (8 children)

      And I feel the easiest way to fix a machine is from the inside.

      [–]iShootDope_AmA 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you. There is usually nothing wrong with compromise in a situation, but compromising yourself in a situation is another story completely, and I have seen this happen long enough in the few years that I've been alive to know that it's a serious problem.

      --Immortal Technique

      [–]heroinkingI'd rather fly than feel the pain 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      he makes some idiotic songs, but dude speaks the truth on occasion

      [–]iShootDope_AmA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      His two Revolutionary albums are fucking epic, but after that he got to be a little repetitive.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Fair enough. There is very passionate ongoing debate among libertarians / volutaryists on this specific issue with neither side getting a supermajority / consensus.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      To be honest, I like helping people and am an adrenaline junkie. I help the ones that will let me and get my adrenaline fix from the rest. I am vocal about policy, occasionally will ignore it and write a report stating what I did and why it worked better, and write pages on the quarterly evaluations. The facility is much better than when I got here. Plus I get to see the GREATEST fucking art in the world.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I'm a "jailer" if you must. Our job is a little different than jailers of old.

      [–]obsidianchaoDiddly Dank 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Yeah, that's kinda fucked up. This guy puts up a general AMA and has no relation to whoever took this guy in, and yet everyone's like "fuck you." This subreddit disappoints me. You'd think for a community that drops acid and smokes mad weed they'd be a little more sympathetic!

      [–]AwkwardCow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      At first I was like "wtf you talking about...it's not that bad..." then I got to the comments that were downvoted so hard, they were 6 ft under.

      [–]well_thats_obviousWho's got the crack? 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      What is your opinion on the war on drugs? Do you believe legalization of marijuana is a step in the right direction? Lastly, what do you think about online marketplaces like sheep or silkroad 2.0?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      Prohibition is a failure every time it is tried. It leads to violence and lethal misinformation. I'm glad there is a safe supply and people to help with educated decision making for the younger crowd. I'm very big on honestly educating youth and letting them make their own decisions.

      [–]splein23 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Even with harder drugs and pharmaceuticals? It's funny how so many people think prohibition is a failure but then draw the line right after weed.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Prohibition of anything leads to misinformation and unneeded deaths of people who just couldn't find the help or information they needed. I prefer education and treatment to misinformation and jail. I would love to be out of a job if it meant no more crime.

      [–]PlatinumSif 4 points5 points  (5 children)

      I have a few questions.

      1. First off this isn't a question but rather a thanks. I appreciate you taking the time to do this, and I respect you because my father has been a cop/jailer as well.

      2. Was it just tipped off by the girlfriend then raided or were they tipped off and performed a sting?

      3. What exactly was be arrested for? Too big of quantity or the fact he was getting it through the mail?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      They were tipped and made a controlled buy. Right now the charges deal with weight, although I found out the girlfriend did know about his source. The package is in evidence and they have a grace period to file more charges. My jurisdiction is fairly reasonable and if his history isn't too bad they would usually rather plea down to a misdemeanor v adding charges and ruining someoone with a chance.

      [–]splein23 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      That's nice to know, it always seems like the courts are always just stuffing non-violent criminals into jail.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It all depends on your DA really.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Meth is the only thing they get really hard nosed about here... Otherwise we are more worried about violence and chomo's. Not even many running traffic.

      [–]feignrmk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So he was dealing locally and someone tipped off the fuzz about that, and then when his place was raided, his incriminating trash was discovered? And then you put two and two together about his sources, but this hasn't been done officially?

      Lessons to learn:

      Dealing drugs is a good way to get caught.

      Destroy incriminating evidence as soon as possible.

      Anything else to add?

      [–]mylilypad 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      OP, would you recommend someone to trust someone in your position as he has or are you really a minority within COs and police officers? How do you do your job correctly when you blatently have problems with the system? Have you ever been a drug user/addict? Why do you feel you need to do this AMA, what are you trying to convey or put out there for public knowledge in this forum?

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I will start with the last question first. Although this isn't the most relevant sub I am a supporter of this community. The comment the inmate made about buying drugs with a mouse click disconnecting people from the IRL consequences really hit home. I think (this ama proved) our community is full of people who either haven't reached maturity yet because of age, or never will because of mindset. The first group can still be saved. I was hoping the mention of a SMP user behind bars and some of the better questions here might make at least one person think a little more about what they are doing. Be smart or quit, you don't get a free roll and this isn't a game for know it alls.

      1. I have problems with the system that I am actively trying to change I gain credibility and will eventually be looked at as an SME if i am a part of said system long enough. I also have an impact on local policy and believe the best place to start change is in your own community.

      2. Yes/not really. Yes I am a recreational user of psychedelics and occasionally other things. I have used certain drugs for extended periods of time and had withdraws coming off, but never been unable to kick a habit myself, Ra'men. Correction: I am a nicotine and caffeine addict. I get mad when people don't group them with drugs so I should too.

      [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Forgot to answer one... I don't feel the bad guys are a majority, just the ones you notice. No one appreciates good leo's doing their job, they just notice the bad ones. I wouldn't trust anyone on their word. I was vetted as honest and consisteny by my long-timers. They see me daily and know I'm a person who can be trusted but not manipulated.

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        [–]Rob3rtaPaulson 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        ITT: Some stupid people.

        What's your average day like?

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Get there, head count, count hardware, check all the paperwork we can go to jail fpr not having in order. Depending on days or nights the routine varies from there. Day shift serves 3 meals, night keeps the house in order. Hourly rounds, cat and mousegames, but most days arent average. It's either all or nothing.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        PS I have his wallet logged as "cash" in the lock up for his safety.

        I'm curious about what logging it as cash means... I thought cash people have on hand when they come in gets put into an account, and then the remaining dollar value is returned to them when they get out, but the specific bills they had when they came in aren't set aside and eventually returned to them.
        A guy in my city had a thousand dollar bill on him when he was arrested, and because it was cash when he was released they just gave him $1,000 in cash, but not the actual bill, which was worth much more.
        But if actual physical bills aren't set aside, how would logging a wallet as cash work?

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        In the event someone plans to bond quickly the cash just gets locked up. If their stay will be extended it goes on their account.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Cool, thanks for explaining.

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        No problem.

        [–]BBQCopter 0 points1 point  (10 children)

        OP, do you admit that drugs have won the drug war? If cocaine were put up for a legalization vote tomorrow, would you vote to legalize it?

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        I would. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

        [–]splein23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        ELVIS DIDN'T DO NO DRUGS!

        [–]jahwolf 1 point2 points  (7 children)

        Regulation vs open legalization. For me this changes my vote. If the plan was open legalization I would probably not vote for it. Seen close friends die from what started as a small habit.

        [–]splein23 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        Yeah but full legalization could offer serious opportunities for treatments and also gets rid of cartels. Personally I don't feel that anyone should have the right to tell another adult what they can or can't do with their own bodies.

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        This. I shouldn't be housing 90% of my nonviolent offenders.

        [–]adamfowl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Do you think it will get rid of cartels or allow them to become something like the pharma giants in the legit drug biz? I think the cartels would be a bigger threat given legalization since they already have crazy dough, giving them political legitimacy IMO is gonna be a bad idea.

        [–]splein23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        At least then they'd stop beheading competitors and pay some taxes. I'll take current pharmaceutical companies vs Al Capone or current day cartels any day.

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        The government has proven their type of regulation on pharmaceuticals only leads to crony capitalism.

        [–]NotFromReddit -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

        Legalization will not make it less accessible. It only makes it more dangerous.

        [–]jahwolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Legalization makes things more accessible, which is the point really.

        [–]nsgiad 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        You might wanna remind this guy that "anything he says can and will be used against him" If he's not even at his initial hearing then he shouldn't be saying a god damn word to anyone buy his lawyer. While it's unlikely that investigators will bother to question you OP, this person telling you how they acquired their drugs was not smart on his behalf.

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Investigators hate CO's. If I told them I had info they would say I was lying.

        [–]nsgiad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Interesting to know, can't say i'm surprised. Keep up the work you must do.

        [–]twigburst -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

        I generally trust what inmates have to say a lot more than COs about what to do if you get locked up, I don't really think you know how to live in prison as an inmate.

        [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        I don't really care what you think I know, tbh.

        [–][deleted]  (13 children)

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          [–]th3gutgrinder[S] 6 points7 points  (11 children)

          He is your average drug dealer, not a techie. A dick could pay a service to brute force the wallet. It is irrelevant because I'm not a dick. As for it being a wallet, just what he told me. I didn't access the drive. That is a rights violation.

          [–]lucasjkr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          what do you mean?

          • The guy (the jailed, not the OP) could have easily had a non-password protected wallet, meaning OP could make off with the funds if he wanted.

          • This could be the guys only copy of his wallet. Had it been formatted or shoran away, it's gone forever.

          You have to remember the distinction between the technology and the users of it. SHA is impossible for break (based on what in known about math today, that could change as early as tomorrow, or it could never change). But that only protects transactions in the block chain - people can be (and are) incredibly lazy about the security of their wallets - we see this time and time again on /r/bitcoin and www.bitcointalk.org. That bulletproof technology does nothing to save people from their own stupidity or negligence.

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