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[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey how about that. I guess an address would be cool huh.

Goto sanitarium-market.i2p

You can contact us using BitMessage or mail.i2p if you need.

With all of the hacking and insecurity lately, we wanted to make sure that every transaction is touched by a human. Nothing is automated(to a degree) and no data is left in the system to be stolen. Hell, let them take the entire server if they want :) You will get a wallet designed to handle your payment and facilitate the mixing process but otherwise, we do not recommend that you maintain a balance in it. You can of course, but just looking to protect you.

We are open to suggestions of course since this system is customer driven. However if we make it too easy, then it will lower the OPSEC knowledge required by the seller to get on the network. With that, it increases your risk. We may consider a TOR version, but that will need some more time to analyze. We are not too happy with TOR issues lately.

To also make it easier for our customers and vendors, we are customizing a TAILS usb for sale to get you into the network easier, for those whom do not know about I2P, are using a shared computer or are accessing from other resources like cafes and such. When complete, we will post it here and in the website. This version will be as a Torrent download for you to install.

[–]seriouslynowwtf 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So you've managed to get bitwasp functioning incorrectly on an i2p domain no-one can access. Well done!

[–]lucyskyhigher[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting! I must warn you: some of our users are quite fed up with being scammed and poor marketplace security, so it is very possible that they will pen-test for any security flaws. If there's no comments yet from any of them regarding any security issues, I'd say that's a good sign.

Also: we have a new rule regarding adding new marketplaces to the sidebar. If your market is still online and functioning properly 7 days after this original post, we will add it to our sidebar. :)

Again, thank you for posting and best of luck to you!

[–]Gomba1 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Is this market up? i cant really connect with i2p (while im able to connect other i2p sites with no problem)

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (13 children)

should be fine. Has been up for days, you think you need the 32bit address? Could be that the index has not registered it yet. I think I saw a note that it could take up to 5 days to link it to the short address.

[–]Gomba1 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Yes, had the same issue with TMP at start,

Can you paste here the 32bit address?

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

dhd5okd2imkskbhsrlbs5c4nx3cdtmwpplvcei6o3l2sc35kt4ma.b32.i2p

There you will also find our PGP ID in the column.

[–]Gomba1 0 points1 point  (7 children)

was able to access but got only text with no css, when tried to add the host to address book i got "Invalid Base 64 destination."

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Thanks for letting me know. I will look at it.

[–]Gomba1 0 points1 point  (5 children)

No prob, heres what im talking about

http://i.imgur.com/ti9PQ7Z.png

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

weird, I have tried it from three different operating systems. I wonder why you see it different. I suspect it is a cache issue. Let me turn off some features and then try again.

[–]Gomba1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ok we are getting there...

http://imgur.com/TGjzqwj

We have design but no images (and of course cant naviagte cause the i2p address is not responding yet...)

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I have been checking with the index guys at i2p. Basically it has not been long enough yet. The process takes a few days apparently. Thought it had been long enough.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

should be good. I would like your feedback if you end up trying again please. As for the 64 address, I wonder if the indexes have the wrong address or something. Might be that magic 5 day issue.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have heard a lot of custom problems in the last two weeks, not only because of the extremes of i2p but we have also experienced them. So we have moved the Sanitarium to TOR. We will give this a try and see how it goes. It is definitely not our favorite security conscious platform, but....

Find us at

http://nyu7nlbj33ym2va3.onion

[–]2_Strainz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The no.i2p jump site works for me. Site looks like it's functioning fine also.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was able to get it today using the 32bit address. May just be a time thing in the Address Book Jedis

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have heard a lot of custom problems in the last two weeks, not only because of the extremes of i2p but we have also experienced them. So we have moved the Sanitarium to TOR. We will give this a try and see how it goes. It is definitely not our favorite security conscious platform, but....

Find us at

http://nyu7nlbj33ym2va3.onion

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like a new, shitty marketplace is opening every day. Everybody wants a piece of the SilkRoad action, you know?

[–]1nj3t0r 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh joy another bitwasp clone scam

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gotta be honest, I don't even know what that is, but if its a scam then surely you can find somewhere else to shop :). Far as I can tell it is pretty straight forward. You buy product and we help to mediate the sale. No need to maintain a balance or anything.

We thoroughly understand the trust level among the community and there is not much we can do for you about that one. What we can do is help to create an mold a service that creates the trust necessary to promote good relations among vendors and buyers. It is not our dream to become the top "Chemicals" seller, hell we were not even thinking that direction actually. What we do want is a diversified product line and thus are inviting vendors of all types. Who ever comes, comes. Thank you for giving us one more of the recent scams to research so that we can find a way to counter it and provide trust to as many as possible.

As we said before, even negative feedback is valuable.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems to be running better today. We hope you all find the same. Time to get more vendors aware...

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are working on a Tails version for those looking. This version will link direct to the Sanitarium, provide PGP email abilities through i2p mail and also provide IRC and other chat through i2p. We would like to also provide you a way of managing your Bitcoin using tails. Surely it would not be a good idea to run BitcoinQt as the current load is 13-16GB but monitoring and signing offline transactions should be doable. Anyone else have ides for something we are leaving out, please feel free to add it here.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been working on the sites today. Sorry if it has been in and out. But it should all be finished now and back on.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

STILL ALIVE !!! Whoo Hoo soooooo,

We are moving this conversation to the new sub reddit at Sanitarium Market.

Thank you for your comments and pointers. We will stay tuned to your interests to help keep us all safe.

Chickenfucker out....

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

A few more points to cover. There is no FE. All vendors are required to use a tacking code that actually resolves in a search engine. That is just one of the points that our admins are comparing with the transaction.

All vendors are required to submit a PGP key for identity. This code is for you and for us.

3 negative feedbacks regarding honesty and the vendor is gone. Not only gone, but we will go out of our way to let everyone know what they did and how they did it.

[–]galaxyandspace -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Oh k. So 3 bad feedbacks is enough to destroy a rep.? Why not 10? Why 3?

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

If you had read the comment properly, you would have noticed that it says "honesty" We do also understand that there are bad buyers. In order for a Seller or a Buyer to get banned, you would have to display a sincere unprofessionalism, a blatant dishonesty and be a repeat offender. If neither of you guy like it, then you do not have to do business here. It is our desire to maintain quality sellers and vendors while also trying to mediate fairly. No one can say that is easy, but once the rules are set and clear, then any violation is clearly defined.

What would you have any market do when a seller sends you a box of rocks? What would you have any market do if you are the Seller and a buyer makes an unfound negative feedback on you?

3 is a fair number. 3 does not mean that there were 3 customers that got scammed and lost their money. 3 is when we have decided that we have been more than fair in letting a seller or a buyer, learn to deal with customers. If either has an honesty issue with other peoples money, then we do not want either in our network.

Otherwise, negative feedback about quality or whatnot, is good feedback for both the customers and the seller. It gives the seller a chance to improve and informs other buyers about the quality of a product or service. Negative feedback of that nature will take care of itself. Buyers simply will not use a seller or the product if the history is poor. That does not get either banned, it is damage that they do to themselves.

Can't make everyone happy :)

[–]galaxyandspace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mk. That makes a lot more sense. Thanks :)

[–]DEFiniteCON 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sounds like a great way for a vendor to remove his competition. Create multiple shill buyer accounts, give them good buying history, then buy from competition and leave horrible reviews to make him look like a selective scammer. Never underestimate how far vendors will go to trash each other.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for pointing that one out. I will be sure to have our site admin keep an eye out for that one. Don't forget that they can create as many buyer accounts and seller account as they want :) The more the better, but an actual buy must occur before feedback for either the seller or the product can be left.

I mentioned before that we have human eyes looking at every single transaction, specifically to help to prevent these scams.

The more you tell us, the more useful we can be to you.

Thanks again

[–]dpr2p -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Sounds real sketchy. The only reason you want a market is for the money. & its almost impossible to get popular after the recent SR-dilemma. Import multi-sig escrow, give it a while and you might have a good market. People don't create markets to just put their lives at risk and the risk for prison. It's making money from commissions. But i'll sign up, give you guys some trust.

[–]Sanitarium-Market[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, don't be a Democrat. All of us here are sketchy. We are all using an anonymous services, probably behind some tor or proxy maybe even vpn. That starts out as sketchy. Quickly.... point out a market that takes all of those risks for Free..... Who knows if it will be a good market or not, but what makes any good business is customer appreciation and good quality communication. What will make a good market is good OPSEC and that is a constant effort and ever changing. We do agree that multisig is the way to go for you all and that will be an effort, but even that is not well developed yet. Most of the clientel can not even use a terminal. SO it will be hard to cater to everyone. Important in the end may be to provide several options in an attempt to keep every one happy.

I don't want you to give us shit. We do not NEED you to give us your trust. You NEED us to earn your trust and that is that.

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