Deep Dot Web Meme and News From the Other side of the Web
I was going to post this just a few hours before the news about operation Onymous started to flow in, but now it seems more relevant than ever. I am sure that once the media will start showing interest in real problems, LE budgets will follow the publicity footsteps:
In case any Law Enforcement agent/agency is feeling bored lately – One of our dark net sources provided us with some other place where you can spend your endless resources. Recently, a new low was reached as someone / some group – started promoting a new “Darknet crowdfunding site” aimed at Child pornography producers looking to make some money off their “content”. The site describes the “unfair” reality where CP producers are unable to earn money from their “productions” since people are sharing them for free on Tor’s various CP sites right after the first copy is sold. The site aims to tackle this problem by offering a crowdfunding platform for those producers, as its stated:
This site is the best method for child porn producers to sell their content. Before, it was almost impossible to make commercial grade child porn, since as soon as they sell it to one person, that video is all over TOR for free. This site aims to solve that problem by having many pedos each contribute a small amount of bitcoin towards the video. Once the total contribution reaches the asking price, the video is released here, on this site, to everyone who contributed at least 0.05 bitcoin. The producer is then paid the asking price, minus a 22% commission. If the asking price is not reached after one month, then everyone who made a contribution is given their money back and the video is erased from the server.
Further more, the site admin go on and explains how he has “Zero tolerance for rape or even coercing an unwilling child to participate”:
Our biggest concern is the welfare of children who appear on this site. {Site name redacted} has a ZERO tolerance policy for rape or even coercing an unwilling child to participate. If there is even the slightest hint that your video contains an unwilling participant, it will not be posted on the site. Light bondage is acceptable as long as it’s just role playing and the child does not appear to be in distress. In addition, children younger than three years will not be allowed to appear on this site, since children younger than that do not necessarily have the ability to communicate whether they like what you are doing to them. The same goes for children who are asleep.
We also require that if you are a producer, you must pay your child actors a fair wage. The purpose of this site is so that your delicious lolis can afford college, not so that you can exploit them for your own personal gain. Of course we have no way to enforce this rule, but please respect it anyway since it is the right thing to do.
And Obviously all of this could not exist without some safety advice and bitcoin tumbling:
People seeing this site may be concerned about the anonymity of bitcoins. There have been many false rumors in the pedo community that bitcoins are traceable. You can protect yourself with a bitcoin mixer like fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion. You can transfer bitcoins from fogcore directly to your bitcoin address on this site. You can also protect yourself through buying and selling bitcoins with cash instead of a bank account at localbitcoins.com. Localbitcoins.com requires javascript. Make sure you disable javascript before returning to any onion website.
The problem with sites like this one that makes it even worse than the normal ones, which are bad enough anyway, is that the only reason it was created is to Incentivize people to produce even more CP and get rewarded to do so.
Our source is reporting that there are already some live campaigns on the site that are being funded and provided us with a screenshot, details redacted:
So LE, Now that all these horrifying Silk-Roadian-Market Sites are down (Ok not all of them, just few), Lets see how fast you could take this one down along with the others. Ready? Go.
Sicko perverts that look at that crap
Unfortunately even if they take down this site, OpenBazaar, a p2p network of e-commerce that cannot be taken down, can easily replace it, and OB will not have a moral stance like the admin of this site does (and it wont have a 22% commission either yikes!).
I really hope this is a honey pot.
No children under 3? So a 4yr old child is able to consent to these sick fucks? Jesus Christ I hope these people die.
Well yes. Sexual stimulation feels good for all people. Sexual stimulation reduces stress, releases bonding hormones, and it is fun. All things good for kids. Only when it is forced it is bad.
Can’t believe LE is prioritizing toward closing darkmarkets over tracking these fucking sickos, but in a way seeing they NEVER did anything substantial about this over decades i’m pretty sure it’s beneficial to them, hell i even suspect these satanic evil POS are part of it and are the first users and producers of such content.
Why not put a link to this site? I’m sure theres not a single twisted sicko that doesn’t know the URL, let us at least spam and DDoS them to pieces.
If you want the URL you can find it in 30 in the place where all the others are listed…
Can we get a noob version of what this means? It’s not under the marketplaces tab right?
And I pray to the great and Mighty Thor that this is a honeypot. We need “PedoDDoS2014″ to trend on Twitter. Someone call in Anonymous, the good fight needs to be fought on this one.
Everything you dont want to visit can be found at the hidden wiki onion.
Looks like you forgot to redact the name of the site in the screenshot. Already found an URL. Thanks, didn’t know about this site
Joking aside, just wanted to point it out. It took me literally 30 seconds to find the URL from the name. So if you redacted the actual URL in the screenshot, you should do the same for the name if you don’t want to bring more visitors to that site.
Fixed!
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here, because I’ve been thinking about this for some time. Before you decide to bash me, keep in mind that I’m just trying to spark conversation here.
You guys are saying some awfully judgmental things about this group of people, but isn’t that the same kind of things that people have been saying about homosexuals for decades?
What exactly makes these people different from homosexuals? It doesn’t sound like they want to victimize anyone, and I’m sure they didn’t choose to have these sexual urges. So, they want to have sex with children… at what age do you draw the line? 18? 15? 5? And why do you draw the line at a particular point? Back in the old days, people used to get married at much younger ages than now. You could marry a 13yo back then, but now if you get involved with one, you’re a sick pedo.
When I was in high school, I had a gf who was 13; she was extremely hot, with a full bush and 36c breasts. Most people thought she was older than me. Would I be a sicko if I looked at a girl her age with a similar build, and wanted to bone her in my 30’s?
Simple answer is yes, 13 is not old enough to be considered an adult no matter what you look like. Years ago people might have got married earlier but they married people around their own age and I doubt they were 13, even if they are it doesn’t make it right. In school back then teachers whacked kids too, so is that OK?
Look this argument is BS, theres a huge difference between to consenting adults(gay) and an adult taking advantage of a child, it doesn’t matter that they look older they have a lot of growing up to do, mentally.
People conparing these to gay are way off the mark, its all about the consent and children who might even give consent don’t really know what they are at, remember when you were 13? I do, I thought I knew everything and was old enough to look after myself but its not until at least 30 do you realize how wrong you were, its like watching sports they call 25-30 year olds “good kids”
Are you looking for somebody to say you were OK to be with a 13 year old? I’ve kids that age and its anything but alright, deal with these kids 24 hours a day and when they get upset after a friend says something dumb, then you might understand what you did to that kid.
And to answer your other question what age do we draw the line, I believe its around 18-20. It does matter what age you are though, somebody in their late 30’s has a lot more experience than a 13 year old, its soo easy to fool them especially a young girl with “Daddy issues” I’m sure you know what I mean, I’m guessing you understand its wrong to take advantage of somebody no matter the age, the fact they are so young makes it easier for the older person to take advantage and therefor makes it taht bit worse, if it was such a little of a thing why do they hide it so much?
I’m was actually really hard not to use words like sick or scumbag but I realize you are creating conversation, at least I hope so.
‘It is overtly obvious that children who have been sexually abused grow up to deal with severe psychological problems.’
Some homosexuals also grow up with severe psychological problems. And what is your definition of sexual abuse anyway? I mean, if we didn’t live in a world where sex was demonized and you had sex with a young child who really enjoyed it, where’s the harm?
And no, I’m not looking for justification for anything. It is amazing how quickly people jump to casting judgment on someone who dares to ask these kinds of questions. It’s like ‘If you ever DARE to ask about a negative stereotype about a particular race, then you are obviously a racist douche.’ It’s actually a pet peeve of mine. Why can’t people ask these kinds of questions without having accusations of being a pedo hurled in their direction?
For a start I didn’t say anything like ‘It is overtly obvious that children who have been sexually abused grow up to deal with severe psychological problems’ and I didn’t go hurling abuse either. So calm down, I did say it was for conversation. I also said that I believe the age should be 18-20 thats different to what it is. If you don’t want an opinion why ask? I already said it was hard not to call these people scum and I do believe its a compulsion and they don’t choose to have but it still is not right and the people doing it know this too.
Now you ask what is sexual abuse, is that a serious question? Anything involving sex with an underage kid and an adult is abuse. You said about marriage between someone as young as 13, I presume that would be another kid around the same age, if not, what would happen with an adult who prefares 13 year olds? The 13 year old would quickly out grow what he likes. That being the case the kid would be dropped once too old, thats abuse, using somebody for sex. And no matter what pedo’s think these kids don’t like it, I was one of those kids and had group with literally 100’s not one of them ever said anything other than feeling guilty(thinking it was their fault) or felt embaressed by it, I have heard from 100’s in group and see them crying after they have grown to be 40-50 years old.
You were with a group of people that were socially indoctrinated to view it as the worst thing ever. Regardless of their consent or lack there of. Just like gays would form groups about how being gay was bad for them.
Are you kidding? In almost all civilized world age of content is 14/15, not 18/20!!! And psychological disparity between younger and older individuals nowadays is really lower than 30 years ago!
In my schooldays most of my 14 years old classmates were engaged with over 18 boys! One girl was engaged with a 37 years old, yes it seemed creepy to me but you can be sure it was her business!
I bet you’re an american… you’re really raving mad with your sex problem.
Yo Gideon:
There is no differnce between child pornography and child sexual abuse you sick fuck. An adult with a camera coercing chlidren into sexual acts is sexually abusing a child. The children don’t know what they are being told to do is wrong, despite their gut feeling that it is.
The child victms grow up with psychological damage because they realize that someone they trusted: a loved one ( relative ), priest or teacher took advantage of, and violated them.
Regarding homosexuals with psych issues, many do not have any. Those that do, do so because of the view society has of them.
Of course you are seeking justification you coward. Why else would you be ” engaging in discussion ” in defense of pedos.
You never addressed my point regarding why even hardened criminals, along with the rest of society, despise you pedos. Why is it that when you are incarcerated you will be gang raped and beaten to a pulp on a daily basis
Having sex with a minor is essentially rape. The pedophile is having sex with someone who can’t give consent. Simple. Comparing this to homosexuality is logically invalid. The confusion arises when we make decisions based on our feelings without consulting our minds. People don’t like homosexuals, people don’t like pedophiles, so the 2 must be the same?
NO! Pedophilia is rape. Homosexuality is not. It doesn’t matter how much we like one or the other…rape is wrong!
Using your logic children can never consent to anything ever.
Your view is that since you don’t like it, you deem children can’t consent. You then falsely label it all rape which then leads to attaching a stigma to the unharmed child. A label that carries a lot of baggage.
A more logical approach is, “the child’s consent is not strong enough to be allowed.” Which can then be backed by parental consent of the child’s consent.
Your black and white approach is terrible logic meant to enforce moral views built on panic and hysteria.
Fun fact, the homosexual movement once supported paedosexuals heavily before the 80s. Until it became politically beneficial for them to contribute to the hatred of paedosexuals for their own social gains.
well put
Gideon – you are obviously a pedo. Homosexuals engage in consensual sex, therefore no one gets hurt. There is no such thing as consensual child pornography. If you believe that, then you are seriously deluded. More likely, that is just your means of justifying your guilty conscience.
It is overtly obvious that children who have been sexually abused grow up to deal with severe psychological problems. So you engage in aberrant sexual behaviour, for your own personal gratification, with no regard for the impact on another human being.
You are selfish and cruel. There is a reason pedophiles are considered the lowest form of criminal on the planet. There is a reason that even among hardened, imprisoned criminals pedofiles are reviled as the scum of the Earth. If you are ever incarcerated you will be praying for death.
‘Gideon – you are obviously a pedo.’
According to Wikipedia: ‘Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.’
So no, that does not include me. I’m not one who thinks you should be having sex with people that young, but as far as I’m concerned, if the bush has hair, then you can at least be excused if you happen to feel a little twitch in your jeans when looking in their direction. For example, if I had told you my ex-gf was 18 and you were attracted to her, would you suddenly not be if I then revealed that she was 13?
And another poster said the cutoff age is 18-20, but I’m not sure why. I’ve known some people who were more mature at 15 than others were at 40. I’m not suggesting that anyone should be out shagging every 15yo they come across, but I think perhaps we should be using another criteria besides age when determining if they’re old enough to be of legal age. Not only for sex, but to voting and other things as well.
If there are any 40 year olds that are not as mature or more mature than a 15 year old theres something wrong with that 40 year old.
And there is a huge difference between looking at a young girl and being attracted to them but acting on that urge is where the problem is, I’m not for a second saying you should not look at a good looking girl, hell I have seen girls in school uniform that I thought were goodlooking but I don’t go and try sleep with them even if they were looking for me to.
This is great. DeepDotWeb now requires java and cookies ? Fuck you. I will never engage in discussion here again. Are you part of operation Onymous now ???? Assholes.
You do not need JS or cookies.
EDIT: You are right actually. new spam plugin, fixing in a minute. Sorry.
– Fixed.
Idiot, you don’t need cookies or JS.
I just found out that he was right actually – because of some connectivity issues with the spam filtering, i used another spam plugin since yesterday, and it requested that SOME people will enable JS in order to comment, personally i couldn’t see this since i am logged in until he pointed it out and i checked now, anyway it is now disabled for everyone.
“Idiot, you don’t need cookies or JS.”
Hey Idiot numer 2 – momentarily it did require cookies and JS. Lighten up on the insults douche bag.
Unless you have ever seen childporn first hand, please dont say things about how it hurts children. If you saw just 1 minute of childporn, you would see that kids LOVE having sex just like everyone else.
Now thats talking out your ass, see it and you will know the kids like it. Bull-shit, I was one of those kids that was abuse when I was around 10-11 and no I didn’t fucking like it, I hated it so much that it messed my head right up. No self esteem, no confidence and it took years for me to get help and get over it, I thought it was my fault now I’m older and know it was not me it was him, so guess what? He won’t be messing with kids again thats for sure.
It sounds like you were raped, and I am very sorry to hear that. Some people who are attracted to adults are rapists and some people who are attracted to kids are also rapists. But please understand that the kind of childporn most of us watch is not like that. I personally would not try to touch a kid who “didn’t fucking like it” and I am very sorry that whoever did this to you was not the same kind of pedo I am.
Joe, I am sorry you were molested. However your experience of being forced is not applicable to experiences of consent.
Yeah, children love sex so much that you sick rapists (sex with a child is always rape) have to travel to third-world-countries all the time to find poor and desperate kids who have to prostitute themselves to survive.
I was in Cambodia, and I saw how the little girls and boys there “enjoyed” it, when they followed some ugly western bastards to their hotel rooms, crying so much that my heart broke (informed the police, but they are part of this shit there. Gave some of the kids money and said, they should go home, but soon realized how useless these actions were considering the unbelievable amount of pedos and child prostitutes there)
Note: I do not doubt that there are some sort of “sexual” (of you want to use that term for the first tactile experiences of children) feelings even children have, BUT AS THEY ARE MENTALLY NOT READY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, NO ADULT HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THEM FOR SEXUAL BENEFITS. It is called “sexual partners” for some reason, and a child never can be your partner, it will always be in a way weaker position than you.
Children have plenty enough options to grow into their sexuality sharing experiences among equals, e.g. other children of their age. They don’t need some sick pedos who try to manipulate them in a way only a child can’t be aware of
“Yeah, children love sex so much that you sick rapists (sex with a child is always rape) have to travel to third-world-countries all the time to find poor and desperate kids who have to prostitute themselves to survive.”
Literally irrelevant to the topic at hand. What if I said this?
Yeah, women love casual sex so much that you sick rapists (sex with a women outside of marriage is always rape) have to travel to third world countries all the time to find poor and desperate women who have to prostitute themselves to survive.
“I was in Cambodia, and I saw how the little girls and boys there “enjoyed” it, when they followed some ugly western bastards to their hotel rooms, crying so much that my heart broke (informed the police, but they are part of this shit there. Gave some of the kids money and said, they should go home, but soon realized how useless these actions were considering the unbelievable amount of pedos and child prostitutes there)”
Please don’t make shit up to try and bolster your point.
I saw a documentary and the guys said that the children were excited to see them since they would be making 100 dollars to play with their penis. The guy said they looked excited as much as their own kids on Thanksgiving.
“Note: I do not doubt that there are some sort of “sexual” (of you want to use that term for the first tactile experiences of children)”
Doesn’t matter if you doubt it. Children have a sexual drive that is repressed by society and parents. Yet children still act sexually with peers and adults anyway. You can’t socialize biology away.
“BUT AS THEY ARE MENTALLY NOT READY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, NO ADULT HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THEM FOR SEXUAL BENEFITS”
The adult is responsible if the child is harmed. The child and adult can both gain pleasure so it is not one sided when consented. Children as young as infants are capable of orgasm. Orgasms feel great when attained consensually.
“It is called “sexual partners” for some reason, and a child never can be your partner, it will always be in a way weaker position than you.”
I am not a paedosexual but please don’t insult my platonic relationships with kids. We are equals because I view them as such. You may view kids as lesser than you but that is your issue. Not mine and not any paedosexual who also views kids as equal beings. It seems you have the problem.
“Children have plenty enough options to grow into their sexuality sharing experiences among equals, e.g. other children of their age. They don’t need some sick pedos who try to manipulate them in a way only a child can’t be aware of”
Or with an adult who is loving, treats them with respect, and takes their consent as serious as anyone else’s. That’s far from a sick person. Also, I find it funny when they do it with other kids it is okay, but with an adult suddenly they can’t be away.
Cognitive dissonance is powerful it seems.
Pretty much everyone who has gone to Cambodia to research the subject for themselves has found that it is extremely rare for prostitutes to be younger than in their mid-teens. The people claiming otherwise all seem to have in interest in making false claims – as soliciting donations is their bread and butter.
In the past this may have been different, as I once saw a documentary where the “rescuers” secretly filmed some younger sex workers. Curiously, even in that biased documentary, the girls were all quite obviously happy to be getting paid for their work, and the only time they were unhappy was when they were being rescued and afterwards – some complaining that when they were locked up in the “rescue mission” they did not have nearly the income (a few cents a day in the mission) that they did as sex workers. Those who could escaped from the “rescuers”.
What sort of “rescuers” enslave the people they rescue? “Rescuers” who can turn a good profit from it, naturally, by drumming up support and donations from moralistic cultural imperialists in the rich world. I don’t put much stock in people like that.
wow……some disturbed individuals here…..little kids love having sex??? what the fuck is wrong with you? the inability to make life altering decisions is one of the main things that makes a child a child. a 4 year old would probably love playing in a pile of toxic chemicals or dogshit but its not in the childs best interest so adults dont allow this behavior. and i cant believe that even 1 site like this still exists. and LE is proud about shutting down some drug markets….markets that would not allow such disgusting, CRIMINAL behavior to be posted on their sites. so yea, the victimless drug crime or a bunch of baby rapers, whats your priority LE? so depressing….YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO FUCK CHILDREN YOU ABSOLUTE PIECES OF SHIT!!!!! ONLY ADULTS THAT WILL ALLOW SOME FUCKING WEIRDOS LIKE YOU TO TOUCH THEM. NOT KIDS WHO DONT EVEN HAVE THEIR THOUGHT CAPABILITIES YET!! YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILES.YOU NEED YOUR SCROTUMS CUT OFF!!!
” the inability to make life altering decisions is one of the main things that makes a child a child”
Having a consensual sexual experience is not life altering by any objective standard barring disease or pregnancy. On those points the adult would always be responsible as well as the child’s guardians.
“a 4 year old would probably love playing in a pile of toxic chemicals or dogshit but its not in the childs best interest so adults dont allow this behavior.”
Those activities would be a health hazard for both adults and children. Objectively one can determine the harm comes directly from the chemicals or shit, the same can not be said for a consensual sexual relation.
“i cant believe that even 1 site like this still exists. and LE is proud about shutting down some drug markets….markets that would not allow such disgusting, CRIMINAL behavior to be posted on their sites. so yea, the victimless drug crime or a bunch of baby rapers, whats your priority LE”
Ignoring your baby raper hyperbolic insult, I agree that the LEA are committing a crime by preventing individuals from a consensual transaction.
“YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO FUCK CHILDREN YOU ABSOLUTE PIECES OF SHIT!!!!! ONLY ADULTS THAT WILL ALLOW SOME FUCKING WEIRDOS LIKE YOU TO TOUCH THEM. NOT KIDS WHO DONT EVEN HAVE THEIR THOUGHT CAPABILITIES YET!! YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILES.YOU NEED YOUR SCROTUMS CUT OFF!!!”
Many children enjoy this activity you insist is not supposed to be done. Your opinion comes from your upbringing and social views. Not objective facts and not the opinions of the children themselves either.
wrong aqgain asshat…..i know people who were molested and they are not ok. AND every instance of sex with a child is a molestation. they do not have the life experience to make their own decisions….thats why they are children you fuckin animals. death is too good for you pigs. YOU DONT FUCK LITTLE KIDS>>>>OR MURDER PEOPLE ANS WEAR THEIR SKIN!!!! who has to be told this??????baffling
“i know people who were molested and they are not ok”
I know adult women who were molested and they are not ok. However this does not allow me to judge consensual instances of sexual contact. Only non consensual. I agree, non consensual sexual contact is bad for a child.
“AND every instance of sex with a child is a molestation”
So you feel it is your right to over power a child to demand that they did not consent? You think it is okay to force a child to feel a certain way about something they enjoyed? That sounds very bad to me and capable of causing mental anguish.
“they do not have the life experience to make their own decisions”
Any decision at all? Every child who played tackle football with an older person was physically abused? After all did they have the experience to consent to all the possible accidents and injuries and pain that could arise? Or, as is most likely the case, do you want sexual interaction to be a special case because of how you were raised and your own moral views?
Child raping motherfuckers! In prison pedos enjoy getting satanically raped to death with a broken mop. They smile as they die.
How many of you have seen child porn? None? Very few? Okay.
Where do you get your info on the content of child porn. From the media? The police? Groups that have a very high incentive on making you think it is the worst thing ever.
The most logical opinion to take on child porn is no opinion.
I am also pleasantly surprised to see that paedosexuals care about children and that this is being shown. Most sites would purposely leave that part out.
Sexual contact feels good for all people. If it is consensual then it is not harmful in any way.
This is a fact.
That is total rubbish, why do they ask that you don’t post videos with kids crying? I’ll tell you, coz it happens a lot. They also advise you to let the kids play and be a kid, don’t just have sex all day.
Now its you that is making your mind up before knowing the facts, I have gone on one or two sites, I had an interest after my own experiences in life.
It is nothing short of aiding a molester to molest, I’ve seen dosages of sedatives to give kids safely, why would they need to be drugged if they like it? They also give advice on how to get access to kids and how to groom kids.
Now thats a word I’ll focus on for a minute.
These kids are being groomed to have sex with, a kid on his own would not know about sex and they are naturally curious, on top of that if they do go into it curious but don’t like what they are doing it won’t stop, the kid can’t control the adult. Its wrong on more than one level, kids are physically not ready for sex, they have to develop that in their teen years and even then they are only developing. Most kids will believe what you tell them and on TV its not hard to see that sex between adults is portrayed as fun and something everyone loves. A kid sees this and doesn’t know what to make of it, are they wrong coz they don’t like it or is that guilty feeling the way you’re suposed to feel. Kids don’t even understand their feelings at that age and anyone that twists it so that they can have sex is just thinking of them self and not the kid.
There is no way the love they claim is anything more than lust, as soon as the kid is older they are no longer attractive to the pedo and most likely dumped when the pedo has a new kid fooled. Don’t forget who is meant to be the responsable one here, a kid is curious about nearly everything, are you saying its OK for a 7 year old to do heroin if they like it? Both will really mess up a kid.
I’ve never once heard of a kid sticking up for a pedo when they were after being caught even with just with images of the kid. At the endd of the day pedos are adults the kids don’t know one way or the other about sex so its simple trickery on the part of the adult and thats just talking about the kids that might go along with the idea, if they don’t what happens then? Do you really expect me to believe that they would not give in to the urge after taking the huge risk in the first place, its that black and white to most, kids are out of bounds for beating, abusing mentally and of course having sex with and communities feel very strongly towards anyone that would do any of these to a kid and I’m guessing thats why it is hidden so much, I don’t see anyone protesting on the side of the pedo, yeah maybe from behind an anon account but actually going and protesting for better rights for pedos, even in Coalinga Mental Hospital which is really a prison in California, not a whole lot of support for them.
“That is total rubbish, why do they ask that you don’t post videos with kids crying? I’ll tell you, coz it happens a lot. They also advise you to let the kids play and be a kid, don’t just have sex all day.”
Because they care about the kids. You are trying to twist this to support your preconceived notions. Being sexually aroused to someone does not mean you do not care for them. In fact it naturally makes you care for them more, ignoring negative anti-sexual social influence.
“Now its you that is making your mind up before knowing the facts”
I never said whether the site is good or bad. I never said that child porn is all good or all bad (your assumption). I am merely making statements based on the facts and research and my actual observations.
“It is nothing short of aiding a molester to molest, I’ve seen dosages of sedatives to give kids safely, why would they need to be drugged if they like it?”
Most stable paedosexuals are vehemently against sedating kids for sex. That is rape, by definition, nothing more.
“These kids are being groomed to have sex with, a kid on his own would not know about sex and they are naturally curious,”
Actually many children are sexual with one another or adults while living in a very anti-child-sexuality society. It is precisely because of their natural curiosity. As a child myself I gave and received oral sex from a neighbor girl. I loved it a lot.
” if they do go into it curious but don’t like what they are doing it won’t stop, the kid can’t control the adult”
If the adult doesn’t allow it to stop, it is rape/molestation. Most paedosexuals care about the opinions and rights of the child. To them, a child should be able to say no and yes.
“kids are physically not ready for sex, they have to develop that in their teen years and even then they are only developing”
There are more kinds of sexual interaction than just intercourse. Anything that hurts the child would stop immediately, anyone who makes it happen is a rapist.
“Most kids will believe what you tell them”
Is that why most parents and teachers are at a loss for how to “control” their kids and students?
“A kid sees this and doesn’t know what to make of it, are they wrong coz they don’t like it or is that guilty feeling the way you’re suposed to feel.”
The guilty feeling comes from adults teaching them that sex is bad and dirty. Then when they see it or partake in it and it naturally feels good they get inner turmoil. Caused by misled adults teaching them sex is bad, not by the sexual contact.
“Kids don’t even understand their feelings at that age and anyone that twists it so that they can have sex is just thinking of them self and not the kid.”
Kids definitely understand their feelings unless they have a mental disorder. Especially after the ages of 6 or 7. They may not understand sexual feelings simply because of forced ignorance. You can’t raise a child, hide anything sex related from them, then claim that their ignorance of sex proves they aren’t interested and can’t understand it.
“There is no way the love they claim is anything more than lust, as soon as the kid is older they are no longer attractive to the pedo and most likely dumped when the pedo has a new kid fooled”
This is patently false. I have talked to many paedosexuals and the most common case is that the child moves on without so much as a “hey I like this other person now” while the paedosexual is heart-stricken. Kids are adaptable and lean towards pansexuality before their sexual identity really solidifies in the tween/teen years.
“Don’t forget who is meant to be the responsable one here, a kid is curious about nearly everything, are you saying its OK for a 7 year old to do heroin if they like it? Both will really mess up a kid.”
The adult is always responsible. Heroin objectively harms both adults and children. Sexual contact is good for humans when it is consensual. It does not harm.
“I’ve never once heard of a kid sticking up for a pedo when they were after being caught even with just with images of the kid.”
Look at how you and others are responding? Do you think the media would publish a story of a child defending their lover? It has happened, the one case where the 18 year old was giving the 11 year old a blowjob. The father started to beat the older guy to death and the son was begging him to stop.
“At the endd of the day pedos are adults the kids don’t know one way or the other about sex so its simple trickery on the part of the adult and thats just talking about the kids that might go along with the idea, if they don’t what happens then?”
Kids don’t know about most topics in life at first, is it evil to introduce something to a child, gauge their response, and react appropriately from there? If the child doesn’t then the paedosexual stops.
“Do you really expect me to believe that they would not give in to the urge after taking the huge risk in the first place”
Our current social atmosphere fuels abuse and punishes consensual experiences. It is easier to keep an abused child quiet than a child who consents, this on top of making anyone who is a paedosexual feel like a monster makes them become one. Basic social psychology. In effect, you and others like you create the monsters while people like me and child loving paedosexuals try to mitigate this damage.
“kids are out of bounds for beating, abusing mentally and of course having sex with and communities feel very strongly towards anyone that would do any of these to a kid and I’m guessing thats why it is hidden so much”
Actually, in many places kids can be non-consensually beat and spanked but can’t consensually take part in a sexual experience. The communities are messed up fundamentally.
“I don’t see anyone protesting on the side of the pedo, yeah maybe from behind an anon account but actually going and protesting for better rights for pedos, even in Coalinga Mental Hospital which is really a prison in California, not a whole lot of support for them.”
Hmm, people calling for death, murder, torture, imprisonment, just in this thread. And you wonder why paedosexuals and people like me hide behind anonymity? Also most social movements started with little support then grew as people got smarter. It will happen here too.
Listen, your abuser was a fucking asshole, and many paedosexuals would have stopped him. Please, even if you don’t agree with anything I say, understand that judging a whole group of people based on the actions of one abusive asshole is not the way to go about this.
“As a child myself I gave and received oral sex from a neighbor girl. I loved it a lot.”
And there you have it. A biased opinion.
“And there you have it. A biased opinion.”
Uh okay, so that’s all you took out of what I said. Anyway… what makes that any less valid than if someone says “I was molested so all sexual contact is bad”. In fact I am just saying “I had a good experience and others can too though I am aware of the bad experiences, so we should look out for those and not mix them all together” a much more logical outlook.
The fact that you try to placate this with the idea that pedos are doing this to “make children happy and pleasure them” rather than for their own personal pleasure is insanely delusional.
“The fact that you try to placate this with the idea that pedos are doing this to “make children happy and pleasure them” rather than for their own personal pleasure is insanely delusional.”
I have no sexual interest in children, though I have had preteen girls attempt to initiate sexual exploration which I have rejected.
Still, sexual orientation causes people to want to please their partners as well as receive their own pleasure. Which is the same for paedosexuals. They want children to be happy and pleasure and they want to be happy and pleasured. It’s a two way street.
For years law enforcement and the media told us that child pornography was a $20 billion per year industry.
This points to a different reality: that no one, or almost no one, was earning any money off of it – aside from law enforcement, quack therapists, and all sorts of lawyers and non-profits like NCMEC (who nevertheless pay their workers high salaries).
The claims that children enjoy appearing in these videos are consistent with what FBI agent Ken Lanning reported about this material (i.e., that the children were often laughing and smiling) a quarter century ago.
In light of the actual evidence that is available – such as The Rind Report, a.k.a. Rind et al (1998) – it may be time to ask whether sexuality is really harmful to children. Isn’t it curious that the exact same behavior which researchers find promotes peace and contentment in our closest primate cousins (bonobos) is claimed (without evidence) to have precisely the opposite effect among humans?
Of course, the public is not allowed to see the evidence for themselves. We are constantly told that each person arrested was in possession of “the very worst child abuse images possible”, though invariably when we discover what those images actually consisted of we find that the “very worst” is not what we might expect – such as (with the Azov case in Toronto) images of nudist boys playing, one or two of whom had an erection.
Perhaps those parties who have an interest in the child abuse industry – which is to say, the lawyers, cops, and quacks making hefty salaries by abusing kids – have been somewhat less than truthful in their claims. Perhaps that is why they make it illegal – with draconian penalties – to find out for ourselves.
Anyone involved in this should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law. Preferably a law that locks them away in a cell with a huge guy named “Bubba” who will give him protection in return for certain nightly favors. That’s the only way that pedophiles can learn that there’s no such thing as non-exploitative sex involving adults and children.
The hacker community should pool their resources to endlessly DDOS attack these sites.
I came across it the other day. I do Tor the old fashioned way. I crawl it.
Yeah, it is good to know where law enforcement’s priorities really are. Their priority is to protect their monopolized valueless currency, at all costs from teh evul bitcooners.
Okay, this is going to be a long post, but I can’t be silent anymore. I’m fairly sure that I have missed some important stuff, I’ll add it later if I’ll remember.
There are as many misconceptions about pedophilia (and child porn) as there are about drugs, if not even more. You know that media, police and society are often full of shit when talking about drugs. I could give examples but I believe I don’t need to.
I will give examples about CP and pedophilia though.
You will have to learn a new word – teleiophilia – the attraction to adults.
Some common misconceptions:
1. “Pedophilia is the molestation/sexual abuse of children.”
No, it’s a sexual attraction (maybe even an orientation, but please, I don’t want to go there now, I’m not explicitly stating that it IS). In layman’s terms, that means that your brain evaluates children as sexually attractive. No one knows how and why someone “becomes” a pedophile, but most sexologists have the opinion that you’re born with it. Just like when you’re a heterosexual man, you just like women. You like them. You fall in love with them. Even if you say to yourself that you don’t, you’ll still like them, because your brain evaluates women as sexually attractive (same with homosexuality). Pedophilia isn’t an act, just like teleiophilia isn’t an act.
2. “Pedophilia is a crime.”
It isn’t. No law in any civilized country mentions pedophilia. It mentions sexual molestation and abuse (see point 1).
3. “Pedophiles choose to be pedophiles.”
Why would anyone choose that? (See point 1 again)
If someone was born as a heterosexual, they could not be a pedophile even if they wanted to.
But yes, pedophiles (or non-pedophiles – see point 4) can choose to DO SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH A CHILD or not.
4. “Everyone who molests children is a pedophile.”
Not true, again. This is a tough one to explain, but this point needs more attention, so I will try.
Most cases of child sexual abuse (I mean actual abuse, forcing the children to sex, beating them, even killing them in some cases) is done by heterosexual teleiophiles. Yes, you’re reading it right. These people have the same sexual orientation as you (most likely). You ask why someone who is not sexually attracted to children would rape a child? I will give a few examples: alcohol (or similar drugs that make you indifferent to others’ feelings); sexual frustration; the child is easier to rape because it is weaker than a grown up adult; the child is the only “thing” that can be reached at the time when the abuser is horny and cannot control himself (if there was a dog near him at the time, he would rape the dog); etc…
These people are “normal” in regard to sexual orientation (if they had to choose between sex with a woman and a child, they would choose the woman), but have other psychological/personality problems. These ARE NOT pedophiles.
But yes, there are cases when actual pedophiles rape or even kill a child. But they also have other problems besides pedophilia and the percentage is so small that it’s almost not worth mentioning (if I had to guess, I would say that only 1 out of 100 cases of sexual motivated murders of children was done by a pedophile).
On the other hand, when pedophiles “molest” children, in most cases there isn’t even a penetration, just touching, looking or mutual masturbation or oral sex.
5. “Every pedophile will molest a child at some point in his life.”
No, see point 4 too and then read this.
I will compare pedophiles to heterosexuals now. If a heterosexual man likes/loves a woman, does he want to hurt her? Rape her? Kill her? Answer for yourself. Do you want to hurt someone whom you love? If your answer is no, then please continue.
Pedophiles fall in love too. But they fall in love with children. It means that a pedophile who is psychologically healthy (apart from the pedophilia) would never want to harm a child. Yes, there is also a lust, but it’s also in hetero- and homosexual people. The main point is – if the woman doesn’t want you, you will not rape her.
6. “Most child porn is a recording of actual rape. The children in CP are always crying and the man is fucking them without mercy.”
Someone already mentioned this here, he had a go