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Market =3D> Rumor mill =3D> Topic started by:= element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am

Title: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am=

Hey, I just wanted to share my recent experience with AAkoven and preve= nt the same from happening to others.

I knew AAkoven was a top vendo= r (98 rating) so I figured ordering speed from him would be pretty safe, bu= t I ordered almost 2 months ago and have nothing to show for it.=C2=A0 Perh= aps the problem does not lie with him, as most people are satisfied with hi= s stuff, but rather with the reshipper.=C2=A0 His impossible-to-understand= messages did not help his case, though.
My full conversation transcript= will be included in the next post.

First off, I was a little worrie= d when I noticed (after I ordered) that his listing said "i ship not usa,"= so I messaged him about canceling the order but he said he had already shi= pped it.=C2=A0

After waiting patiently for 20 days, nothing had arr= ived so I asked for a reship.=C2=A0 He offered 50%, which is less than most= vendors but fair enough.=C2=A0 While waiting for the reship I did a little= research and found out that many people had qualms about his packaging:
"i couldn't believe it, that the customs didn't recognize what was ins= ide... you could smell the reek of the phet from one meter distance through= the packaging"
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3D4750.285=

"the package was basically pills wrapped in newspaper and then pack= aged, no vacuum pack, nothing."
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?= topic=3D19561.0

"I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aa= kovens packaging... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills...."
http= ://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3D19561.msg200169#msg200169

22 days after reshipping, I still have nothing.=C2=A0 Obviously I was= a little irked.=C2=A0 I've had dozens of packages arrive from Europe (cohe= rence, blaatzor, amsterdope, juergen, etc) on the first time.=C2=A0 No way= 2 shipments get intercepted for no reason--I'm guessing it was the packagi= ng issues mentioned.

I brought this up to AA and asked for a refund= (not full refund, obviously) but he sent back messages that made no sense= and ultimately refused to refund.=C2=A0

So far, from my point of= view this was a terrible buyer's experience.=C2=A0 I paid in full, ended= up with nothing, and had to deal with nonsensical messages and cryptic cus= tomer service.

Just wanted to warn people.=C2=A0 If you're in the UK= this most likely does not apply but you will still have to wade through hi= s broken English.

I'll update if either of the packages end up comin= g through.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:46 am=

element12 - 1 month

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Hey aako= ven. I was rereading the listing for speed and noticed you said "i ship not= usa"
Does this mean you don't ship to the US? Should I cancel my order?=

aakoven - 1 month

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its all= ready on the mail m8 dont worry

element12 - 1 month

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Okay great, thanks.

aakoven - 1 month

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:+)

element12 - 1 month
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<= blockquote class=3D"bbc_standard_quote">Hey,
My order of 2g speed never= got here :( It's been 18 days since ordering so it auto-finalized.
Is= there any chance I could get a reship? I'm not trying to scam you, I was= even looking forward to reviewing it on the forums, you can check my posts= there.

aakoven - 1 month

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= Give me your add plz...i send 50 % of the order..

element12 - 23 days=

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Sure, 50% is fine. 1g then righ= t?
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I was indisposed for a week= (and unfortunately the speed still isn't here)
Here is the address:[red= acted]

aakoven - 22 days

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o= k i will send .
\
AA

element12 - 7 days

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Hey,
just wanted to confirm you send the reship as= I have still not gotten it
Thanks

aakoven - 6 days

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its send. 100 % sure.

AA<= div class=3D"quotefooter">

element= 12 - 2 days

Quo= te

Hey it's been 20 day= s and I still have not gotten anything. Could I get a refund?

<= div class=3D"quotefooter">

aakoven= - 1 day

Quote<= /div>

i did all ready re send= .

element12 - 21 hours

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I= understand but clearly there is something wrong on your end as it's been= 21 days since reshipping and it's still not here; I didn't even get a love= -letter from customs. So far as a customer I've gotten nothing out of this= and unless you have a DCN or something similar I have no reason to believe= you shipped it in the first place. Since we both split risk 50/50 could I= get a 50% refund? There are many vendors here who claim to refund/reship= 100% if their product doesn't get there.

I'm not trying to screw yo= u over... I've ordered from juergen, blaatzor, amsterdope, coherence, etc.= all from Europe and their stuff got here just fine the first time. Do you= use a reshipper? Perhaps that's where the problem is? Several people on th= e forum have complained about smell from your packages / poor packaging, ma= ybe that was the problem?
(http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic= =3D4750.285, post by imprint)
Also it seems I'm not the first to complai= n about it not getting here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?top= ic=3D17170.0

All I'm asking for is a fair 50%. If the reshipment eve= r gets here I will immediately send you the money back but at the moment I'= m out $45 and spent 2 months waiting.

aakoven - 21 hours

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@I have no reason to believe you shipped it= in the first place \ up t u...

@I have no reason to believe you shi= pped it in the first place \ order from them.!

element12 - 16 hours

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What on earth does that mean?
=
Look, so far I've had an unsatisfactory experience dealing with you.If this goes unresolved then that bad experience is what is going to be re= flected by my forum posts and you can't expect more than a 1/5 rating.
aakoven - 16 hours
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1, i give= 50 % refund or i re ship.!
So i did.
I dont know why even the re shi= p dont arrive.its always my bad never the customer right?
No room buddy= steal it or the mail men or..i dont know what.
I have seen it many time= s.later they mail me O it was , a guy ..who steal it sorry sorry...
It= make no sense for me to no send, why to make 10 $?

I ship 250 pills= orders np i can be trusted..
I did all what was in my power the re ship= does not arrice happen mebe 1 \1000.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: waytoomany on April 27, 2012, 02:34= pm

God damnit, I wish I didn't see this... Its been 17 days and still am= waiting for me package. AAkoven also told me that his reshipper had some= sort of Hard Drive crash which is why it's taking sooo long.

AAkove= n keeps reassuring me though, that my package is going to come... each time= saying that it's going to be an extra day. I also agree with you that this= experience as a buyer is just terrible.

I've been financing my mone= y the past few weeks assuming that my bulk order would arrive by now, I'm= broke as fuck now and dope sick. I had to pawn my $3000 saxophone and vari= ous other things to not be sick this past week. I was really counting on aa= koven's OC 40's to be here by now.

After reading this thread tho= ugh, you finalized it for me- the fact that my package isn't going to make= it. I really can't go on just waiting for the mail to come only to find no= thing. It's such a fucking tease, that it's almost better knowing that my= package aint going to be here versus wondering if its coming today.

I honestly would rather have AAkoven tell me that my package isn't goi= ng to make it. Rather than saying "oh dude relax, itll be there... 2 or 3= days give it"=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: waytoomany on April 27, 2012, 05:06= pm

hey, so the mail man just dropped off the mail and guess what? I still= haven't gotten my package which was guaranteed to be here yesterday or tod= ay.

3 days ago he AAkoven said yea 2-3 days should be there.... the= n 7 days ago he says oh yea 4-6 days should be there...

Then all of= a sudden his reshipper has a Hard drive crash breaks his computer...... Ok= ay, so that will add a few days onto the wait time, but why AAkoven would= you tell me this after resolution?? I mean, if your reshipper has a comput= er crash or whatever, don't you think that you should have told me this ear= lier when you found out?

I'm not insulting or being unnecessary mean= , I'm being honest and giving you constructive criticism for your business.= And right now, I regret spending the $1000 for 50 OC 40 mg's. I'm actually= very disapointed and unsatisfied with the turnout of this transaction so= far. I won't be back and wish I didn't deal with him in the first place.
Maybe I'm being a little harsh on aakoven but $1000 is allot for me= and I've been -$1000 for 17 days... I owe people money now. WTF am i going= to do?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: divinechemicals on April 27, 2012, 06= :06 pm

One of the very first things I learned about the Silk Road based on my= lurking in the forums for about a month was that you NEVER order from the= Netherlands if you are in the U.S. It is not worth the risk whatsoever. Th= e Netherlands is an automatically flagged country and the chance of that pa= ckage getting to you is significantly diminished. I doubt this is all AAkov= en's fault. Maybe he should have used better packaging, but the fact is tha= t the Netherlands are already a poor choice to order from. Unfortunately yo= u had to find this out the hard way. But at least you know for the future.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: jh0000n on April 27, 2012, 06:21 pm

Ya Netherlands,China. Pakistan, India, Mexico, Columbia, mynamar , Nige= ria, Libya, and most middle eastern countrys are to be avoided like the pla= gue....pretty much any country thats globally known as drug producing or ha= s issues with the american government. Safe-er countrys would be like --sou= th africa, botswana, Canada, East europe countrys, australia, israel, turke= y.....(Ive ordered from most of these safe countrys other than turkey and= never had any problems.....pakistan on the other hand seized every time)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: waytoomany on April 27, 2012, 07:01= pm

It's never a good idea to order from NL to US... AAkoven has a shipping= option though where he mails it to the UK first and somebody from UK reshi= ps it to US. *reshipper*

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 10:05 pm=

You can't really blame his packages not showing up on his country.
<= br>He should package it better then if he's sending from the NL.=C2=A0 If= his products get caught going through customs that's his fault.=C2=A0 Amst= erdope's stuff got here just fine.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: fatalz on April 29, 2012, 03:23 am

Damn, your story is exactly the same as mine.

i made an order fo= r some mdma, 18 days later no package, so aakoven agreed to re ship 50%. It= 's been about 8 days since the reship, so we'll see if it shows up, though= to be honest, I have already given up hope that I'll get either one of tho= se packages, and most likely will never order from him again.

I alre= ady put a new order in with Ivory (who I have ordered from numerous times= with 100% success and never waited more than 6 days, even with bulk orders= ). I would of ordered from him to begin with, but he was on vacation lol..= =20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on April 29, 2012, 05:20 am=

Second order of speed from Amsterdope got here today (5 days).
2/2= shipments of speed received from the Netherlands from Amsterdope successfu= lly.
0/2 shipments of speed received from the Netherlands from AAkoven= successfully.

You really cannot blame that on the country then...

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: waytoomany on April 29, 2012, 01:52= pm

I've had to resolve 2 cases of items not reaching my destination and wh= at I did was left it up to the vendor.

I let the vendor decide what= feedback they wanted based on this...

1/5 =3D 60% refund

2/5= =3D 70% refund

3/5 =3D 80% refund

4/5 =3D 90% refund

= 5/5 =3D 100% refund

I'm sick and tired of vendors saying it= is not their fault for packages not making it.

That is bullshit. It= is their fault. Mail just doesn't get lost, well it does... but very very= very rarely. When packages don't make it, it's because customs picked it= up. Customs pick up packages because they look sketchy and don't look legi= t and aren't packaged up to standards.

Don't you think the vendor sh= ould be responsible for their shipping and packaging? Shouldn't a vendor pa= ckage their products in a such a way that customs won't be suspicious of it= ?

If a package is stealth, concealed, and not suspicious then th= e vendor did good and was responsible for his packaging. But if not, they= did a shitty job and should be held responsible for not doing a good job.= Thus making it their fault.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on May 01, 2012, 03:46 am

Well technically according to SR resolution policy a 50% refund is all= that is required from the vendor.=C2=A0 But come one, two failed packages= and no refund?=C2=A0 For all I know he could have never sent anything and= pocketed the change.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 07:45 am

I placed an order today from AA and he told me he would be doing the NL= ->UK->US thing. I really hope this works out and doesn't turn out lik= e you poor fellas!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Timewilltell on May 02, 2012, 07:51= am

This is very very very suspicious.

Aakoven knows Noriega in real= life. Noriega's orders haven't been turning up to the USA (some seizures= is understandable but basically 100% of them) - and now Noriega has fully= fucked off.

It is possible that Aakoven is selective scamming. Not= shipping the item, and then giving you a 50 percent refund saying that it= got seized. He keeps 50% of the cash without having to sell anything.
<= br>There is also the possibility that Aakoven IS Noriega..=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: AAkoven on May 02, 2012, 08:10 am

Quo= te from: Timewilltell on May 02, 2012, 07:51 am
This is very very very suspicious.

Aak= oven knows Noriega in real life. Noriega's orders haven't been turning up= to the USA (some seizures is understandable but basically 100% of them) -= and now Noriega has fully fucked off.

It is possible that Aakoven= is selective scamming. Not shipping the item, and then giving you a 50 per= cent refund saying that it got seized. He keeps 50% of the cash without hav= ing to sell anything.

There is also the possibility that Aakoven IS= Noriega..

I know them but I dont see them a lot.Fact.
I= know there where some problem.=C2=A0
@It is possible that Aakoven is= selective scamming. \ you take this back you FUCKING ASSHOLE.!! WHO THE FU= CK ARE U TO TELL SOME THING HERE. FUCK YOU .!!! >:(
@There is also th= e possibility that Aakoven IS Noriega.. \ HERE U GO MORE BS.=C2=A0 ONE MORE= FUCK YOU=C2=A0 ASSHOLE.

U DONT KNOW SHIT ...BUT TELL HERE LIKE= U DO ,=C2=A0 =C2=A0YOU CANT EVEN PISS STAID I BET I KID OFF 16 YEARS..MAKE= ME SICK THOSE PEOPLE.

SR GO TO BIG EN THEN THERE COMING ASSHOLE LIK= E THIS GAY BOY.

AAKOVEN=C2=A0 8)=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:26 am

Wow what a reply AAkoven! I don't think there is anything you can do wh= en you buy direct from NL. The packages are marked far too often. I will gi= ve my review when my product comes and about the time it takes to get here.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: mungingout on May 02, 2012, 08:35 am<= /strong>

Quo= te from: AAkoven on May 02, 2012, 08:10 am
@It is possible that Aakoven is selective scamming.= \ you take this back you FUCKING ASSHOLE.!! WHO THE FUCK ARE U TO TELL SOM= E THING HERE. FUCK YOU .!!! >:(
@There is also the possibility that= Aakoven IS Noriega.. \ HERE U GO MORE BS.=C2=A0 ONE MORE FUCK YOU=C2=A0 AS= SHOLE.

So much love for AAkoven, his mannerism makes me laugh= .=C2=A0 ;D

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:59 am

Can anyone here from the US confirm shipping times to the US in larger= amounts since the NL-UK-US thing?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: dopeyopy on May 03, 2012, 01:58 am

I'm in Australia and have ordered from AA without any problems at all.= I know it's not the US, but it's a very long way to send something. I got= my goods in 12 days (including weekends) and had no problems with communic= ation or with the product.=C2=A0 You guys are too quick to bad mouth a vend= or.

Once the package leaves AA's hands he has no control over it.= Ask for a tracking number if you want to know where your package is at all= times. If you are afraid of losing a package then ask vendor to ship in 3-= 4 separate packages over the course of a few days and pay a little extra sh= ipping. Order from more than one vendor. Basically, don't put all your eggs= in one basket.=C2=A0

Don't order from NL if there have been multip= le issues with receiving packages. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twic= e, shame on me...

Also, i think that 50% back is pretty fair, you ta= ke 50% of the risk. It would have been smarter to get a 50% refund and buy= from another seller if you were unhappy with AA's packaging, his english= and anything else.

Drugs are still illegal. That means that no mat= ter where you source them from, there is a risk involved.

I'm a 10+= year IV H user, i know that sometimes the drugs can try and own you. You= have to be patient AND smart when using.=C2=A0 Don't spend more than you= can afford to potentially lose. If you are buying for other people, make= sure they understand the risk of mail order drugs. If they don't, point th= em in the SR direction and let them shop for themselves.=C2=A0=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on May 03, 2012, 03:29 am

Quo= te from: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:26 am
Wow what a reply AAkoven! I don't think there is an= ything you can do when you buy direct from NL. The packages are marked far= too often. I will give my review when my product comes and about the time= it takes to get here.
There absolutely is something you can do.= =C2=A0 When you receive 2 packages from one vendor from NL successfully and= 2 from another vendor get caught clearly there is something wrong on the= vendors end.=C2=A0 It is not that hard to get stuff past customs. I believ= e SKYY has a 99%+ success rate shipping from NL.

Look at all the peo= ple in this thread in similar situations.=C2=A0 AA told me this never happe= ns but if you scroll through his feedback there are many people who receive= d nothing.

= Quote from: dopeyopy on May 03, 2012, 01:58 am
Don't spend more than you can afford= to potentially lose. If you are buying for other people, make sure they un= derstand the risk of mail order drugs. If they don't, point them in the SR= direction and let them shop for themselves.
I can afford to los= e $45.=C2=A0 It's the principal that bugs me.=C2=A0 The fact that I got not= hing and as a vendor he didn't try anything to make it right and I'm worrie= d the same will happen to other people who buy from him.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: omnadren on May 03, 2012, 03:47 am

thats why people should research and make their own decision, aint noth= ing wrong with=C2=A0 you sharing your experience with aa. I personally want= a 100 defcons but decided to go with pd as he be a safer bet at the moment

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: robin999 on May 04, 2012, 05:42 am

Can't say enough good things about AA, I've been getting packages from= him to the US for at least 6 months and haven't lost a single one. Maybe= I'm lucky but he's definitely one of the most consistent sellers here. You= guys go on these crazy witch hunts after you get scammed because you're pi= ssed about it and want to blame somebody. Maybe if you did a bit more resea= rch and ordered from somebody who's been here for almost a year (like AA)= you'd have gotten your drugs and not gotten scammed.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: AAkoven on May 04, 2012, 06:06 am

This will be my last post on this forum..
There are to many trolls,= and thee drinking bitches here..WTF.=C2=A0 ;D

Am here so long i don= t need this shit.
1 note the Russians=C2=A0 =C2=A0are=C2=A0 the biggest= assholes...always give 1\5=C2=A0 for 2 gr speed..wen it not arrive...=C2= =A0 =C2=A0:o
What a fucking assholes ".

AAkoven=C2=A0 8)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: pullinbreezy on May 07, 2012, 12:23= pm

US buyer here. Horrible experience with AAkoven. I am going to share th= e last bit of our conversation so everyone can see how unprofessional he ha= ndles an issue. I will not be using AA again. Please be cautious if you cho= ose to use him. You will have to start at the bottom of the conversation an= d come up to read it in order.

aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subj= ect
I don't think that you did resend\ well u know it...all right.
u= are a donkie.. WE are not like U.
u think i need 30 $...eghhhhh there= are so many asshole on the road now.
damn before only good people know= about this place , the smart.!!

pullinbreezy=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re:= subject
I don't think that you did resend. At the very least I should= have gotten a customs letter.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

aakoven(97)=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
did I re send........or not

pullinbreezy= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
I don't know what you are trying to say.=

aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
did a re send........o= r not.did a re send........or not.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

pullinbreezy=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
So, will you resend product?

aakoven(9= 7)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
I did a re send........or not.
or box= x have a red flag.

of your opinion on my country \ http://www.youtub= e.com/user/GeraldCelenteChannel

Aa

pullinbreezy=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0re: subject
Well, regardless of your opinion on my country, I have= never had any previous issues and have not had any issues since, just you.= If you would resend the product I would be very grateful. If not, I will= simply leave honest and accurate feedback and a review on the forums.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re:= subject
btw po box is a flag, U life in a cooperate , fascist, country= .
with no rights <
fubar.

AA

pullinbreezy=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
I have checked every piece of mail that I have= gotten and no edit for package description**** . Nobody else has access to= my PO Box. Nobody else could have gotten it.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

aako= ven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
edit for package description****..h= ow someone can find it?

beat me.

pullinbreezy=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0re: subject
It goes go a PO Box. I am the only one with a key to it.= I get every other package with no problem. You can see my buyer stats. I= have had lots of transactions and several international orders. Also, I ma= de 5 orders on 4/20 and all of those arrived perfectly and in a timely mann= er.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
th= at means ..someone steal.it...yeah.
your room m8 , or........=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0

pullinbreezy=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: subject
It's been ove= r 3 weeks since the second shipment and I still have not received anything.= I find it very hard to believe that two packages have now been sent and I= haven't gotten either of them and no customs letter.

I= think that resorting to insults is never acceptable. I have been on SR for= a long time now with many transactions and a 0% refund rate. Many vendors= on SR can vouch that I am an honest buyer. I just want to share my experie= nce with AA.

_________________________________________
M= od edit for packaging description...also thinking about removing entire pos= t for posting Private Messages.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: oppyate on May 07, 2012, 03:53 pm

=C2=A0AAkoven has this on his vendor page:

"
I do my up most= best to ship everything as quick as possible. I understand that waiting fo= r your product sucks. I have been in that position many times.
I ask tha= t you release the funds from Escrow once you have received the product, as= quick as possible. You can always revise the rating later.
I honor my= part of the deal, you honor yours. Thank you & I hope for your underst= anding."

it's the same as noregia has on his...??

Maybe he kn= ows Noriega intimately?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 07, 2012, 03:59 pm

I will know for sure if AA tries to screw me over. I have never had an= issue with the address he sent to since it was moved into 7 years ago and= I have gotten MUCH MUCH bigger packages before many times.

I made= a 10 gram MDMA order from him and he tells me that any orders 10g+ he ship= s to the UK first and someone there ships to the US. I hope this is true,= otherwise from now on the only person I get MDMA from is SKYY.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Holly on May 07, 2012, 04:17 pm

Quo= te from: oppyate on May 07, 2012, 03:53 pm
AAkoven has this on his vendor page:

"
I= do my up most best to ship everything as quick as possible. I understand= that waiting for your product sucks. I have been in that position many tim= es.
I ask that you release the funds from Escrow once you have received= the product, as quick as possible. You can always revise the rating later.=
I honor my part of the deal, you honor yours. Thank you & I hope fo= r your understanding."

it's the same as noregia has on his...??
<= br>Maybe he knows Noriega intimately?

Aakoven is my #1 buddy= on this site I trust the man with my family's life.=C2=A0 The reason whyhim and noriega had similar pages was cause noriega intentionally copied= off aakoven's page .....

Aakoven is number fucking one :)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: bampot on May 07, 2012, 05:11 pm

^ I second this.=C2=A0 He is my number 1 seller.=C2=A0 In fact he is pr= etty much my ONLY seller these days.=C2=A0 Apart from some slightly lazy pa= ckaging in the past (which now seems to be fixed), and some interesting Eng= lish (but hey, it's not like I can speak Dutch or anything!) I cannot find= a single fault.=C2=A0 His efficiency is actually pretty unbelievable - bet= ter than any "real" company I have ever dealt with.....

I can't help= but notice that all the people complaining seem to be American.=C2=A0 The= US has very good (or bad, depending how you look at it) customs.=C2=A0 Ame= ricans are taking a much bigger risk than others ordering from SR, and espe= cially from the Netherlands.=C2=A0 If you don't like his packaging, or the= fact that it didn't turn up, I suggest that you do as he says and buy from= someone else!=C2=A0 Find someone who will vacuum-pack, re-route, split pac= kages....whatever it takes.=C2=A0

You may just have to pay a bit mo= re for the privilege of living the American Dream!=C2=A0 But personally I= wouldn't dream of coming on here and accusing one of the longest-running= sellers on SR of selective scamming just because I didn't receive a packag= e (or even two for that matter).

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: fidocscentral on May 07, 2012, 05:19= pm

I ordered from AAkoven for the past 5 months and received every package= ranging from 50-1000 defqons parcels maxing out at 250 pieces in each one.=

All of them got here. He is funny and I like and trust him. Yes= , his packaging needs work, a small investment to keep his customers would= be awesome.

I'll still stand behind him.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: insomniac on May 07, 2012, 06:06 pm

Quo= te from: robin999 on May 04, 2012, 05:42 am
Can't say enough good things about AA, I've been= getting packages from him to the US for at least 6 months and haven't lost= a single one. Maybe I'm lucky but he's definitely one of the most consiste= nt sellers here. You guys go on these crazy witch hunts after you get scamm= ed because you're pissed about it and want to blame somebody. Maybe if you= did a bit more research and ordered from somebody who's been here for almo= st a year (like AA) you'd have gotten your drugs and not gotten scammed.
Exactly what this man said. AA has been a good, loyal seller for a= long time to me. I only lost one package from him and it was my fault for= not putting the complete address. And for AA's and SR's sake

STOP= POSTING PRIVATE MESSAGES AND DETAILS ABOUT PACKAGES

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: tonic on May 07, 2012, 09:18 pm

No need to try to destroy this man's reputation just because of one bot= ched order.

I have recently ordered from AAkoven twice in the US. Fi= rst order when directly NL->US, other went through his reshipper. Both= arrived in less than 10 days. A few pills were broken, but no biggy, they= are legit and great. Can't say enough good things about AAkoven.

I= know there is some selective scamming that goes on in terms of NL->US= shipments, but I doubt AAkoven is one of them.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: tonic on May 07, 2012, 09:19 pm

Quo= te from: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:59 am
Can anyone here from the US confirm shipping times= to the US in larger amounts since the NL-UK-US thing?

West= Coast took about 9 days using this method. Almost as fast as direct.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on May 08, 2012, 05:22 am

Quo= te from: insomniac on May 07, 2012, 06:06 pm
STOP POSTING PRIVATE MESSAGES AND DETAILS ABOUT= PACKAGES
None of the private messages posted have had any detail= s about location or packaging.=C2=A0 Why are we not allowed to post private= messages?=C2=A0 Just want people to see what an interaction with AAkoven= is like.

<= a href=3D"http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3D20682.msg228405#m= sg228405">Quote from: tonic on May 07, 2012, 09:18 pm
No need to try to destroy this man's rep= utation just because of one botched order.
Ignoring posts from pe= ople with problems with packaging alone...
I will count mine as 1...
=
2: "I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging= ... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills...."
3: "Maybe I'm being= a little harsh on aakoven but $1000 is allot for me and I've been -$1000= for 17 days... I owe people money now. WTF am i going to do?"
4: "Damn,= your story is exactly the same as mine.

i made an order for some md= ma, 18 days later no package"
5: "US buyer here. Horrible experience wit= h AAkoven."

This is not one botched order but several.=C2=A0 I did= research to confirm I was not the only one.=C2=A0 None of the people that= posted received letters from customs either.=C2=A0 Coincidence?=C2=A0 Mayb= e.=C2=A0

I made this post to warn buyers, not because I have a grud= ge against AA for $40.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: themessenger2 on May 08, 2012, 05:52= am

Quit ripping on people for bringing up legitimate concerns about vendor= s. That's the same shit a lot of Tony's fans did when someone had a problem= . Problems happen, but there is nothing wrong about being honest on the for= ums.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: unregisturd on May 08, 2012, 09:33 am=

OK well.

I ordered 6 weeks ago, still nothing.

He said he= resent around 3 weeks ago, still nothing.

When I inquired about it= he shifts the blame onto my "room mates" of which I have none...

St= range....

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Bob Arctor on May 08, 2012, 09:41 am<= /strong>

You get a reship and then you ask for refund? That's not how resolution= center works. You get either refund of resend, not both, and if I were you= I would get slightly worried about ordering to that address again..=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: darthvaderstar on May 08, 2012, 04:34= pm

His first shipment never came, his 50% shipment which he gave(didn't gi= ve options) never came it's been a month, in the end i feel as if he may ha= ve never ever sent the shipments. This was my second order on SR about a mo= nth ago, and i made the mistake of finalizing early, lesson learned. My oth= er orders around SR have been successful except for this one. This is US.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Kappacino on May 08, 2012, 04:48 pm

It looks as if Aakoven and Noriega have been selectively scamming US ve= ndors by claiming "us customs got stricter"

Now this is fucking bull= shit. Why aren't the other NL vendors having the same problems? Because its= horse shit that's why.

It's understandable that a few orders get se= ized but not this many. Scamming pieces of shit.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 01:41 am

I ordered my 10g from AAkoven because SKYY had taken that recent break.= I would have waited if I had known it wouldn't be long before he came back= . Though if AAkovens shit does make it and it is good, I would continue to= order from him in larger amounts.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: simplyanon on May 09, 2012, 01:48 am<= /strong>

Quo= te from: perky/pesky on May 08, 2012, 04:58 pm
I dont get it...

Doesnt SKYY have bett= er pills and mdma? Arent his prices cheaper, communication perfect and has= U.S. 100% landing rate?

wtf?

I honestly can not belie= ve I'm about to say this. But, yea, what perky said.

Honestly, I do= n't order out of the domestic US for the simple fact that I don't feel like= dealing with customs. And if I DID, it would be from SKYY, or a UK vendor.= Probably Canada.

There's too many horror stories about AA and the= Netherlands.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Jeromaya on May 09, 2012, 03:51 am

I don't think you quite understand the drop in the ocean that your= order was.
The number of reassuring emails aa must send out a day. Hes= a machine.
He is not omnipotent, if he says wait a few days he doesn't= mean that he
has seen the future.
His success here speaks for itsel= f, even when his packaging was a bit :/ people
wanted his top notch gear= .
YOU the BUYER should choose your vendor based on your needs.
If you= need regular volume buy off a boss like aa, if you need your hand held the whole way find someone less busy.
Also did you reship to the same= address if so=C2=A0 ???

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Jeromaya on May 09, 2012, 03:56 am

Quo= te from: Kappacino on May 08, 2012, 04:48 pm
It looks as if Aakoven and Noriega have been sele= ctively scamming US vendors by claiming "us customs got stricter"

No= w this is fucking bullshit. Why aren't the other NL vendors having the same= problems? Because its horse shit that's why.

It's understandable th= at a few orders get seized but not this many. Scamming pieces of shit.
<= /blockquote>
=

I don't think "us customs got stricter".

But they are look= ing for things differently, same in my country.
I think there is too obv= ious of a formula to how alot of vendors package.
Its time to get creati= ve.=C2=A0 ;)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: smokeweed420 on May 09, 2012, 04:17= am

AAkoven is right when he says that sr is diffrent now. i remember when= i joined 7 months ago people acted way different . there was a sense of lo= ve here, and understanding. when im ordering from the netherlands and it do= esnt arrive i eat the loss. these arent street dealers. if a package doesnt= arrive they have to pay for it too. its ridiculous how some people act her= e now, leaving 3/5 feedback for crushed pills... and crucifying vendors whe= n something goes wrong, its the buyers responsibility to be smart and choos= e wisely who they order from. at this rate sr will fall apart. there are a= ridiculous amount of assholes here who take for granted the service they= are getting. I live in the USA and here the best ecstasy pills have maybe= 60mg of mdma in them.. and "molly" is just a bunch of "roll like" rcs. i= for one greatly appreciate the service that is given to me here, and the= chance to indulge in some of the best quality drugs from all over the worl= d. On another note i ordered 10 grams of mdma from aakoven and it arrived= here in 10 days...Do you know how many scammers he has to deal with every= day with his level of transactions? im sure its very hard to differentiate= between whos a scam buyer and whos not. hes an awesome dude and there is= no reason to slander him here just because you had a few issues. and after= a package didnt arrive you ordered it to the same address? thats your bad.= if you feel so strongly about this leave silk road and never come back. ju= st my opinion... i dont mean any offense.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 05:29 am

Havent been on here because of how furious I am at the fuckinbullshit= that happened with AA...ordered march 22nd and two Weeks nothing so I mess= aged him-he "reshipped" and I still haven't gotten shit...

im not ev= en gonna bother reading this entire thread but he ripped me off or fuckin= cant pack a envelope to save his life

Irresponsible vendor that fuc= ked me over-done with NL period.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: shadh1 on May 09, 2012, 05:39 am

hey guys , prob good that I jump in this one briefly , Ive bought off= aakoven in the past and its always been good , albeit sometimes a little= underweight but ive received 5=C2=A0 - 50g lots off him so far and just aw= aiting the 6th

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 09, 2012, 06:07= am

Quo= te from: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 01:41 am
I ordered my 10g from AAkoven because SKYY had take= n that recent break. I would have waited if I had known it wouldn't be long= before he came back. Though if AAkovens shit does make it and it is good,= I would continue to order from him in larger amounts.

I orde= red 10 grams of MDMA from AAkoven as well on May 2nd. I really hope it actu= ally shows up, but for some reason I have a bad feeling about him; maybe it= 's his lackadaisical attitude in response to everything you ask him. I hate= that his policy is 50% refund or resend. If you have to finalize early, th= at should mean that the vendor feels confident enough in his shipping/packi= ng abilities that the package will get to it's destination on the first run= . SKYY conveys this very message, so much that his products say "border-pro= of delivery" on them.

If my first package from AAkoven arrives I wi= ll retract this statement and apologize greatly. I have just been reading= too many horror stories revolving around this vendor that I am actually pl= acing an order from SKYY as soon as my BTC arrives. I am sure that it will= arrive hitch-free.

@Mr. Snott: would you please keep the forum pos= ted on if/when you receive a package? I will do the same. I placed an order= of 10 grams and finalized early before I stumbled upon this thread. My sto= mach about dropped out of my ass when I read this thread for the first time= .

-Heteroplasmy

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 09, 2012, 07:26= am

Quo= te from: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 05:29 am
Havent been on here because of how furious I am at= the fuckinbullshit that happened with AA...ordered march 22nd and two Week= s nothing so I messaged him-he "reshipped" and I still haven't gotten shit.= ..

im not even gonna bother reading this entire thread but he ripped= me off or fuckin cant pack a envelope to save his life

Irresponsibl= e vendor that fucked me over-done with NL period.

What countr= y are you from?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 08:02 am

Midwest USA...go read my posts from his thread from back in march-I was= gonna order from skyy but right when I put my btc on his shit went up to= a hundred a gram all the way up so I ordered 5 from AA...two packages fail= ed, no customs letter.

And the bitch of it is that I was upmost resp= ectful to this guy but two orders gone and now this thread.

AA-stand= by your product with decent shipping, this guy actually said that dogs don= t check for mdma, what a crock.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: White Light on May 09, 2012, 09:11 am=

Quo= te from: Kappacino on May 08, 2012, 04:48 pm
It looks as if Aakoven and Noriega have been sele= ctively scamming US vendors by claiming "us customs got stricter"

No= w this is fucking bullshit. Why aren't the other NL vendors having the same= problems? Because its horse shit that's why.

It's understandable th= at a few orders get seized but not this many. Scamming pieces of shit.
<= /blockquote>
=

Hello,
In fact I think I have read this "selective scammers th= eory" about almost all reputable NL sellers : Dr Amsterdam, DBQ, Chemical= Brother, etc. Always from american buyers.
Aakoven is a good seller, if= you don't a agree with his conditions just go to another vendor.

I= remember a US buyer who was complaining he was scammed by Dr Amsterdam bec= ause he never received 2 packages of 10g MDMA. A few months later he starte= d a thread explaining he has been busted.
So, if you didn't get your pa= ckage, you should try to watch the situation from another point of view := what consequences if Aakoven did send the packages and if they were seized= ?

WL

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 09, 2012, 10:29= am

Quo= te from: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 08:02 am
Midwest USA...go read my posts from his thread from= back in march-I was gonna order from skyy but right when I put my btc on= his shit went up to a hundred a gram all the way up so I ordered 5 from AA= ...two packages failed, no customs letter.

And the bitch of it is th= at I was upmost respectful to this guy but two orders gone and now this thr= ead.

AA-stand by your product with decent shipping, this guy actuall= y said that dogs dont check for mdma, what a crock.

I am from= Midwest USA also! Oh my God... I hope I get my order. For=C2=A0 my first= order I ordered 10 grams. I feel like I am getting sadder and sadder as I= keep readimg in this thread..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 07:24 pm

Oh don't worry, I will most certainly raise hell if the situation with= DeadRa7 happens with me. I have EXTREMELY solid addresses and not a single= one of them has lost anything at all from order on SR yet. I even got a sa= mple from a new cannabis vendor DIRECTLY from NL and it arrived today. I ha= d it shipped the same day and he shipped direct from NL. Now I understand= he says he ships to someone in the UK first for orders of 10g or more so= I would understand it not being here yet. I am close enough to the midwest= that you could consider me part of it so I am in the same boat.

I= would be very suspicious if he claims some shit especially being shipped= from the UK. I have had so many illegal products shipped from there and ne= ver once lost a package (majority of which were outside SR).

If the= package doesn't arrive, I will not ask for a reship from him. I will simpl= y ask for a 50% refund and take my cash to skyy.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: zerostate976 on May 09, 2012, 07:55= pm

I have had 100% success with AA (and all the other .NL vendors)=C2=A0= His MDMA comes well packaged and quick.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Ordering something for= .NL is risky, if you dont want to take that risk dont order. Simple. Then= you wont need to bitch. Order from Domestic, then complain about quality.= =C2=A0 I have had pills thrown into a bag and sent and they made it just fi= ne from a different vendor. I think the majority are trying to get extra sh= it. Soon vendors wont fuck around with anyone without a supurb buyers strea= k.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: darthvaderstar on May 09, 2012, 08:05= pm

I should have never ordered from AA.. same with DeadRa7 i was respectfu= l to the guy even when i could barely understanding what he is saying, he= can't even give me a straight answer and replies with the same thing. If= your still planning on ordering from AA and a reship becomes an option, DO= NT TAKE and just get your 50% refund back. And DON'T finalize early.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Horizons on May 09, 2012, 08:39 pm

I just got a package today from AA. I had placed the order during the= 4/20 weekend. It took a longer-than-usual time to arrive, but it arrived.= Exactly what I ordered, good packaging, no problems.

If AA broke ba= d, I don't see it. His MDMA is the shit, I've done great business with him= in the past, and I certainly plan to do business with him again. I will no= te, though, that he was pretty laconic this time around.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: photon on May 09, 2012, 09:08 pm

I have had good luck with AA in the past with several transactions, alw= ays quick communication and prompt shipping (less than 2 weeks to central= US), and the product that I received (crystal mdma) was simply amazing. I= chose not to use him for my most recent order because other NL vendors wil= l stay in escrow, but if I had to I would be willing to place another order= with him. He has always seemed like an honest vendor with me.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 10, 2012, 12:43 am

I've decided to share with you all our messages from the time I ordered= until about a month or so ago-remember to read from top down-his replies= are
Quote
in the quotes

I just= need to set the record straight about something-

Quote from: Jeromaya on= May 09, 2012, 03:51 am
...The number of reassuring emails aa must send out a day. Hes a machi= ne.
He is not omnipotent, if he says wait a few days he doesn't mean tha= t he
has seen the future.
His success here speaks for itself, even= when his packaging was a bit :/ people
wanted his top notch gear.
YO= U the BUYER should choose your vendor based on your needs.
If you need= regular volume buy off a boss like aa, if you need your hand held
the= whole way find someone less busy.
With all do respect, You sir,= Are a fucking idiot.=C2=A0 And I know that is impolite-but post's like tha= t make me furious.=C2=A0 Let me explain why.

You say his success spe= aks for itself-Go look at his thread, shit look at this one-I understand pe= ople flip out when it's been more than a week or two but his "success" rati= ng is bullshit on SR because they're all FE's-and I know that two packages= didn't get to me.
And I should choose a seller thats "based on my needs= ".=C2=A0 Uhh, okay-I saw a listing for Molly and I ordered it from somebody= who reassured me, the buyer, that I was good to order from him.=C2=A0 So= you sir tell me how this is MY fault?=C2=A0 If he only wants to deal in "v= olume" then he can take his 5 gram listings down and deal with people who= want more.=C2=A0

And no, I do not want my hand held-I wanted 5 gra= ms of shit to arrive in my mailbox and patiently waited every day for a mon= th and a half for nothing-do you even understand how grueling that was?=C2= =A0 That fucking feeling that you get when you open your shit and its empty= and then it hits you that, at the earliest, its gonna be another 24.=C2=A0= The point is, if you don't care about your customers (and 'caring' DOES go= further than being nice on a PM) then GTFO.=C2=A0 I am a broke college stu= dent that pulled this money out of my ass to order this and lost upwards of= $215 if i'm not mistaken.=C2=A0

The ONLY problem with this dude (a= nd other NL vendors) is his packaging-I do not understand why that is such= a hard concept to grasp.=C2=A0 Look at SKYY-his customers are almost alway= s satisfied-his chief complaint is that "it took too long".=C2=A0 Also, for= the record, I was going to order his shit but at the time (for those who= remember) his shit went up to $100 a G for a while.=C2=A0 I should have wa= ited.

AA-Order a fucking gram from SKYY and let him school you on ho= w to package drugs correctly for export out of the hottest counties in the= world.=C2=A0 Everything else with this dude is cool in my book-he's person= able-funny-good price but that DOESN'T MEAN SHIT because I never got anythi= ng I ordered.

Again, his replies are in the quotes-read bottom up
Quote
=
aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re:= Hey AA

:+) thxxxxxx =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read=
delete
DeadRa7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey AA

Dude your= awesome, when my reship arrives ill make sure to give you a glowing review= on the forums, and of course repeat business!

Have a good one broth= er, stay safe and prosper!=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Quote
aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey= AA

no its ok.........there is no red flag..~!

AA=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=
DeadRa7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey= AA

Do you know about when I should be expecting it? Also, I just re= alized that I gave you the same address, is that okay? Hope I didn't screw= myself by that ;-(=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

Quote
aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey AA=

well thxx for your kinds words.

lets go for it ok..take care= .,m8.

AA=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=

De= adRa7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey AA

AA-
Fuckers! If you really beli= eve that's what happened, then that's fine, my address will be enclosed at= the bottom of this email.

If by chance it does arrive out of nowher= e, I will gladly let you know and reimburse you for the replacement package= -this is a two way road brother and I want to establish a long lasting rela= tionship with you on here.

I know your good people, which is why I= decided to place an order through you-I will be placing several more here= in the near future, and cannot stress how much I appreciate your customer= service.

Thank you again man, I am excited to FINALLY get a taste= of your amazing product :)

(address removed for obvious reasons)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

(he sent me this video= immediately after sending me the last message-some crappy 80's song)
Quote
aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey= AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjEJdfDD4dVg=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01= month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: Hey AA<= br>
Quote
well customs was lucky...it can= happen m8..
give me your address .
en i will re ship 50 %+ off your= order,!!

dont worry.........AA don't let nobody hang to dry..=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

DeadRa7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0Hey AA

Hey brother-

I am writing this to tell you that I= have not yet received my shipment of 5 G's yet. I am starting to worry for= the following reason, my man:

I ordered on Wednesday, march 21 and= F.E. for you on Thursday, march 22

I checked the forums, and anothe= r member, "gusman17", also ordered the same day

He is Eastern U.S.,= I am Midwest

Gusman received his order on the 27th, I have yet to= receive mine

Also, he said that he chose regular "international",= i chose "priority"

I know that being in the midwest would take a li= ttle longer, but it doesn't make sense it would be a week.

AA, I'm= sure you hate getting mail like this and I really do apologize brother, an= d I am sure as hell not asking for a refund or anything like that right now= , but it just seems weird that he got his and I haven't got mine yet is all= . I've been on the road only a month so far, so in your professional experi= ence what do you think is going on?

I am sorry to take up your valua= ble time man, I just cannot stop thinking about this order and i'm so confu= sed as to why its not here :( =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Quote
aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re:= F.E.?

thxx u.!

AA=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
<= /div>
DeadRa7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: F.E.?

Done, thank you brothe= r=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

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aakoven(97)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re: F.E.?

yes plz..thx= x...

AA=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
<= div class=3D"quotefooter">

Dea= dRa7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0F.E.?

Just placed an order, f.e. required?=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 month=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 10, 2012, 02:19 am

I didn't finalize early and if my order doesn't arrive before the autof= inalize, I am just hitting the resolve button to get a 50% refund.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: kolom0nster on May 10, 2012, 03:06 am=

I had an order that didn't arrive for about 20 days, AA offered a 50%= reship and that showed up to USA in 5 days last week.

I've had seve= ral transactions with AA and this is the first that didn't show.=C2=A0 He's= been nothing but a professional every time and I'll gladly deal with him= again.=C2=A0 I was happy with 50% considering we share the risk every time= and this was the first issue that's come up.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26= pm

I honestly believe he selectively scams US..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 11, 2012, 05:04 am

Quo= te from: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm
I honestly believe he selectively scams US..=
<= /div>
I don't know=C2=A0 what to believe...I WANT to believe that it= was a honest mistake but I dont know...it greatly upsets me but hell, shit= happens.=C2=A0 Tony was my first transaction and loom what happened with= him-he was also "trustworthy"...I just don't understand that with how cour= teous I was to him that he would scam me-fuck I offered him repeat business= but that's blown now...

Anyone know any reputable vendors in the UK= ?=C2=A0 Im just done with NL from this experience-I am taking too many C.H.= To work and can't afford to=C2=A0 gamble on here

This sucks plain= and=C2=A0 =C2=A0simple-but I guess, like I said, shit happens.

Goo= d luck buyers-may your orders come in fast and heavy

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: AAkoven on May 11, 2012, 06:29 am

Quo= te from: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm
I honestly believe he selectively scams US..=
<= /div>

yeah your right , i fucked u over...dont ask me why mebe it= was your name...?
But after 11 months here, i fucked one over..for 5 gr= ...mdma..yeah , I gut not help my self.! :P

If u dont like MY terms.= .dont order go to someone else.!!
If some one did not get his re,ship th= at happen mebe , 1-500=C2=A0 but He it`s always MY fold .!!

IF u sen= d 15-20 things a day yes some will not arrive.
Ask every seller.
If= I give 100 % then i have so many scammers on my hand.
But the trolls do= n,t think about that .!!

I go now to the bar spent the money from da= rk fucker...drinks for every one.....

Posted by: DeadRa7
@ (h= e sent me this video immediately after sending me the last message-some cra= ppy 80's song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjEJdfDD4dVg=C2=A0 =C2= =A0

Well here u go..now i know why i did not re send for u...U did= not like my video ... ::)

AA 8)=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: ZeddBaby on May 11, 2012, 06:39 am

I order a listing from AA that said "does not ship to US" and i got my= shit. He's alright in my book,=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: KatEverdeen209 on May 11, 2012, 06:45= am

Ordered my first with AA the other day, have tons of faith that it'll= make it and even though its always shitty to see the Guy you just bought= from being flamed in a thread that says he fails to deliver, in these type= s of markets we gotta just trust who seems honest and go for it.

He= has been more than nice and has chatted it up with me quite a bit. Cool Gu= y for sure. Ill update when it gets here for sure. =3D]

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 13, 2012, 12:14= pm

Quo= te from: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 07:24 pm
Oh don't worry, I will most certainly raise hell if= the situation with DeadRa7 happens with me. I have EXTREMELY solid address= es and not a single one of them has lost anything at all from order on SR= yet. I even got a sample from a new cannabis vendor DIRECTLY from NL and= it arrived today. I had it shipped the same day and he shipped direct from= NL. Now I understand he says he ships to someone in the UK first for order= s of 10g or more so I would understand it not being here yet. I am close en= ough to the midwest that you could consider me part of it so I am in the sa= me boat.

I would be very suspicious if he claims some shit especiall= y being shipped from the UK. I have had so many illegal products shipped fr= om there and never once lost a package (majority of which were outside SR).=

If the package doesn't arrive, I will not ask for a reship from him= . I will simply ask for a 50% refund and take my cash to skyy.
My sentiments exactly... If my first order of 10 grams doesn't arrive I= will also just ask for a 50% refund. I have high hopes and expectations of= AAkoven; I am hoping that all of the people bad mouthing him are just othe= r vendors trying to give him a bad name (this could also be the case). AAko= ven sure hasn't stayed within the top 2% of SR for almost a year by selecti= vely scamming people, so I am hoping that all of this negative talk on him= is false. Other vendors could have people working for them that are delibe= rately bad mouthing AAkoven.... just throwing that out there for thought

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will get what you ordered!

but i would not take= the risk ordering from someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows= him IRL) and did not even make a statement about his "friend" scamming man= y people.

also his vendor page has some similar text to noregias and= he also stopped shipping to US...

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: andyki on May 13, 2012, 10:26 pm

Quo= te from: AAkoven on May 11, 2012, 06:29 am

Posted by: DeadRa7
@ (he sent me this video= immediately after sending me the last message-some crappy 80's song)
h= ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjEJdfDD4dVg=C2=A0 =C2=A0

Well here= u go..now i know why i did not re send for u...U did not like my video ...= ::)

AA 8)

Cheesy video AA... you can do better ;)
=
Try this one... Secret Circle - Touch in the Night

I live for th= e 1980s :D

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: White Light on May 14, 2012, 09:23 am=

Quo= te from: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will get what you ordered!
<= br>but i would not take the risk ordering from someone who vouched for Nore= gia (he said he knows him IRL) and did not even make a statement about his= "friend" scamming many people.

also his vendor page has some simila= r text to noregias and he also stopped shipping to US...

Pers= onally I would "take the risk" because Aakoven is one of the most experienc= ed and reliable vendor on SR, he is here since almost one year and I always= be pleased with his services.
And I won't listen the advice of a newbie= who is on this forum since less than 3 weeks and who spreads rumors about= one of the most solid vendor of SR.

To US buyers : are you not tire= d of this "selective scamming" assertions ?! I have read this shit about al= l the big NL vendors...
Don't you understand it's risky to send from NL= to USA ?
I understand you would like to order best quality MDMA, at th= e best price, fast delivery and no taking any risks. Sorry, but it doesn't= work that way...

WL

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 14, 2012, 10:56= am

Quo= te from: White Light on May 14, 2012, 09:23 am
Quote from: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will= get what you ordered!

but i would not take the risk ordering from= someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows him IRL) and did not eve= n make a statement about his "friend" scamming many people.

also his= vendor page has some similar text to noregias and he also stopped shipping= to US...

Personally I would "take the risk" because Aakoven= is one of the most experienced and reliable vendor on SR, he is here since= almost one year and I always be pleased with his services.
And I won't= listen the advice of a newbie who is on this forum since less than 3 weeks= and who spreads rumors about one of the most solid vendor of SR.

To= US buyers : are you not tired of this "selective scamming" assertions ?!= I have read this shit about all the big NL vendors...
Don't you underst= and it's risky to send from NL to USA ?
I understand you would like to= order best quality MDMA, at the best price, fast delivery and no taking an= y risks. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way...

WL
<= div class=3D"quotefooter">

I= took the risk because he has a remailer in the UK so it goes NL ----->= UK -----> USA

WAYYYYYY WAYYYY LESS RISK! I don't think I have EV= ER had a package coming from the UK seized.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 14, 2012, 02:55 pm

This will be the first package of over 20 that were illegal coming from= the UK I haven't received. I truly do believe he selectively scams US buye= rs. There are just too many US buyers that don't receive their product.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: madma on May 14, 2012, 02:59 pm

Quo= te from: Heteroplasmy on May 14, 2012, 10:56 am
Quote from: White Light on May 14, 2012, 09:23 am
Quote from: madma on May 13= , 2012, 04:59 pm
i hope you guys will get what you ordered!

but i would not take th= e risk ordering from someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows him= IRL) and did not even make a statement about his "friend" scamming many pe= ople.

also his vendor page has some similar text to noregias and he= also stopped shipping to US...
=

Personally I would "take the= risk" because Aakoven is one of the most experienced and reliable vendor= on SR, he is here since almost one year and I always be pleased with his= services.
And I won't listen the advice of a newbie who is on this foru= m since less than 3 weeks and who spreads rumors about one of the most soli= d vendor of SR.

To US buyers : are you not tired of this "selective= scamming" assertions ?! I have read this shit about all the big NL vendors= ...
Don't you understand it's risky to send from NL to USA ?
I under= stand you would like to order best quality MDMA, at the best price, fast de= livery and no taking any risks. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way...
<= br>WL

I took the risk because he has a remailer in the UK so= it goes NL -----> UK -----> USA

WAYYYYYY WAYYYY LESS RISK! I= don't think I have EVER had a package coming from the UK seized.

Well i see no advice in what i wrote just my opinion on this= matter.

If someone vouches for anyone IRL i will also hold that per= son responsible if i get scammed...the same rules aply for me on SR.
As= you state Aakoven is one of the "most" trusted sellers so what was tony or= noregia then a month ago?

As i see Aakoven never really made any cl= ear statement on what happened with noregia...the guy which is to be truste= d acording to Aakoven.

or did anything change there Aakoven?? i jus= t want a clear statement from you there

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: White Light on May 14, 2012, 04:08 pm=

Quo= te from: madma on May 14, 2012, 02:59 pm
As you state Aakoven is one of the "most" trusted= sellers so what was tony or noregia then a month ago?

Person= ally I have never considered Noriega as one the trusted sellers, he started= to sell in the beginning of the year, I have dealt with him once and staye= d in escrow, and I was not really satisfied with his package and communicat= ion.
Moreover I am a bit afraid to see how fast a regular seller become= s a "trusted seller" now on SR... I don't know about Tony, he didn't ship= to EU so I never cared about him.
=C2=A0
=
Quote from: madma on May 14, 2012,= 02:59 pm
As i see= Aakoven never really made any clear statement on what happened with noregi= a...the guy which is to be trusted acording to Aakoven.

In= fact I think there is a post where he replied about it.

WL

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: madma on May 15, 2012, 06:08 pm

Aakoven sent me a PM,=C2=A0 glad he did.

makes me see things in= a different and better light.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: KatEverdeen209 on May 15, 2012, 09:44= pm

Well as a new member to the forum I'm sure my post will be taken lightl= y but I've just received an order (west coast) from AA in under a week incl= uding Sunday =3D]

there is one thing I noticed (and I don't want an= ybody to take this an accusation but rather an observation) there is no tra= cking. And this leaves me believe there is a wide open window for people to= claim no shows on packages. Again I'm not saying this is what happens but= its a huge possibilty. I can easily see how one could exploit that.
My package made it in great shape and im no better than anyone else to no= t scam.

Anyways here's to my first successful order. I wish you all= better luck=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 17, 2012, 12:24 am

KatEverdeen how much did you order from AA? It seems like the majority= of his 1 and 2g packages make it. I have no desire to scam anyone. I would= rather have a good buyer status.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: PePinJeNek on May 17, 2012, 12:48 am<= /strong>

Quo= te from: AAkoven on May 11, 2012, 06:29 am
Quote from: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm
I honestly believe he= selectively scams US..

yeah your right , i fucked u over...d= ont ask me why mebe it was your name...?
But after 11 months here, i fuc= ked one over..for 5 gr...mdma..yeah , I gut not help my self.! :P

If= u dont like MY terms..dont order go to someone else.!!
If some one did= not get his re,ship that happen mebe , 1-500=C2=A0 but He it`s always MY= fold .!!

IF u send 15-20 things a day yes some will not arrive.
= Ask every seller.
If I give 100 % then i have so many scammers on my ha= nd.
But the trolls don,t think about that .!!

I go now to the bar= spent the money from dark fucker...drinks for every one.....

Po= sted by: DeadRa7
@ (he sent me this video immediately after sending me= the last message-some crappy 80's song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DjEJdfDD4dVg=C2=A0 =C2=A0

Well here u go..now i know why i did not= re send for u...U did not like my video ... ::)

AA 8)

Lol.. doe mij maar een fluitje..

Hey AA

How about this,= I know it is far fetched and quiet a wild idea
but what if you would sh= ip 1 x a week from belgium or germany?
It would obviouly depend where u= live but in NL
from 50% of holland you could be in germany in 1.5 hour.=
25% of holland you could be in Belgium under 1.5 hour

However I= suspect you live in the remaining 25% NH or ZH (but if not)

The con= would be that the order would be send later than normal
but the german= postage wil make up for that because they're heaps faster
dan the dutch= from my experience.

Anyhow it was just an idea.
Maybe only for= your large orderes?

Because you seem to have a lot of parcels going= to wasted
and that makes me a sad panda.

Peace..landgenoot

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39= am

Just received 10 grams=C2=A0 of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discre= etly! It came in the=C2=A0 people bashing AAkoen are probably competing ven= dors...=C2=A0=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: fidocscentral on May 17, 2012, 01:30= pm

Quo= te from: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39 am
Just received 10 grams=C2=A0 of MDMA from AAk= oven; packaged very discreetly! It came in the=C2=A0 people bashing AAkoen= are probably competing vendors...

Glad it worked out bud 8)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Kappacino on May 17, 2012, 02:01 pm

Quo= te from: fidocscentral on May 17, 2012, 01:30 pm
Quote from: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39 am
Just received 10 gr= ams=C2=A0 of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discreetly! It came in the=C2= =A0 people bashing AAkoen are probably competing vendors...

= Glad it worked out bud 8)

The reason people are accusing Aa= koven is because he associates with the utter piece of shit scammer Noriega= (who still owes many many people product and doesn't even have the courtes= y to explain himself) in real life and knows him. (oh its not his fault bla= h blah I already hear you shut your fucking mouth)

Also, you keep fa= iling to notice this dinstinction Aakoven, so perhaps I'll hammer it home= one more fucking time for you. You ready? Get google translate up if you= need it. Get your hearing aid, pull the strap-on out of your ass, wipe Nor= iegas lips clean, and pay fucking attention. Why is it that out of all the= Dutch vendors, you and Noriega have the most US seizures?

Why do= I not see the same complaints about chemical brothers, or skyy, or halpern= , or one of the MYRIAD of dutch vendors, using exactly the same postal serv= ice as you?

So yes, you don't need to repeat for the 15 fucking mill= ionth time that "if you send out a lot of orders, some get seized". Yes Aak= oven, some get seized. Some get seized, and noone tells you about it. Some= get seized, and you get a customs letter.

Yet with your and Norieg= a's seizures, NO-ONE has received a customs letter?

"Oh well sometim= es customs doesn't contact you"

Yes, thank you for stating the obvio= us there, but why has NO-ONE received a customs letter with one of your sei= zures? Literally fucking noone at all, and I've been following all these th= reads, and your feedback, as Noriega's, and the rest of the dutch vendors= like a fucking HAWK.

I don't deny that you do many legit transactio= ns, and I suspect now that you know people suspect you that you will be com= ing through with all your US orders and we will be hearing about it on the= forums, and suddenly everything is fine.

But you can't pull the woo= l over a fucking hawk's eyes, and I'd bet my summer drug stash on the fact= that you and your buddy were selectively scamming the US (you even had it= on your vendor profile that US customs had upped their game.. Nicely done= there, nice). That is, before Noriega fucked off altogether. Yet I've been= paying attention this whole time and watching this situation very closely.=

And one question gives you right the fuck away, and I'll be shocke= d, but not astounded if you can actually answer it - why was there a spell= of time over march-april where your US orders were getting seized at a RID= ICULOUS rate (much much much much more than the 5% statistic you love to ta= lk bout), but the other dutch vendors weren't having the same problem?
<= br>What was it, was it your packaging? Did your drops get identified? Or di= d US customs just "up their game" for only you and your pal? Or did you tal= k to each other and think "hey man we can claim these orders didn't arrive= and make an extra 30% markup"? And also, whilst I'm in the business of ask= ing questions, where the fuck is your pal noriega? You know, the guy you kn= ow, that owes thousands of dollars to people. I mean it's not a big deal or= anything, your connections to a known scammer, not your fault or anything,= not your responsibility, yeah. Keep telling us how it's nothing to do with= you, you never know, you're probably right.

Your story is nonsense= . And I'm not the sort of person to make baseless accusations. So grats to= all the people in the US that are now receiving orders, but the damage has= already been done.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: MrSnott on May 17, 2012, 04:32 pm

I have an apology to make to AAkoven. I am sorry for doubting you! I ju= st received my package of 10g today and it was overweight by .5 of a gram.= I ordered May 2nd and just received May 17th. The product is as expected= and will certainly do business with again! I feel so bad for jumping to my= conclusion thinking he scammed me so quickly. I am still new to SR and hop= e to always be a good buyer. Thank you AAkoven!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: sinister4ng3l on May 22, 2012, 10:15= am

I ordered 100 pills from him almost two weeks ago and they still haven'= t come yet...I'm kind of freaking out because I need them for an event in= a week and a half.=C2=A0 :-\

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: anony9015 on May 23, 2012, 01:45 pm

AA has no reason to selectively scam US people, why would he? Some get= seized, some don't, I had a few things seized or lost in the post in the= past (not from AA) but I never received a customs letter and I know they= were sent 100%.

I currently have an order with AA which had not tur= ned up after 2 weeks and he has offered me a 50% reship which I have accept= ed, I have no reason to doubt the man, he has but nothing but professional= and the speed and high level of customer service has impressed me a lot!.= Things go wrong with this kind of business thats that.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: insomniac on May 23, 2012, 06:04 pm

I'm in the same boat as you, anony. I did not receive the latest order= from him, but I also saw that many people from the US also didn't receive= theirs, so I'm thinking it's just a fluke in his orders that all got seize= d in the same time window. I also took him up on the re-ship offer, as I've= never had problems with him in the past. 2 orders from him before made it= in 6-7 days. Here's to hoping we both receive our re-ships!! I will defini= tely need mine soon as a big EDM event is right around the corner=C2=A0 ;)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: zebra420kitty on May 23, 2012, 08:57= pm

Quo= te from: element12 on May 01, 2012, 03:46 am
Well technically according to SR resolution polic= y a 50% refund is all that is required from the vendor.=C2=A0 But come one,= two failed packages and no refund?=C2=A0 For all I know he could have neve= r sent anything and pocketed the change.

you saying you didn'= t receive the reship is less credible then him saying that he sent it. also= , maybe the problem was on your side? you provided the wrong address. or th= at customs caught the first package and now they watch your mail. not sayin= g that your trying to scam him, you just need to see that there is a risk= when you decide to have the postal services transport your goods.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: element12 on May 24, 2012, 08:59 am

It seems like most of the people defending AAkoven are saying that it's= not his fault because customs seized the packages.=C2=A0

How is th= is not his fault?=C2=A0 How is AAkoven not able to get speed (a flat, sched= ule II powder) past customs but SKYY can sneak through all his MDMA and pil= ls (schedule I, and much harder to fit in an envelope).=C2=A0

How= did both Amsterdopes orders show up from the SAME country as AA, totally= unharmed?

His refund policy is fair enough. I will concede 50% resh= ip makes sense, although many vendors offer more.=C2=A0 I can't really faul= t him for it.

However I think customers have every right to wonder= where their package is.=C2=A0 It is not the customers 'fault' for ordering= from the Netherlands.=C2=A0 2 packages missing spells bad news.=C2=A0
=
The vendor's job is to make sure the product gets here.=C2=A0 Shoddy pa= ckaging is not only a loss of product, it also holds a potential danger fro= m law enforcement to whoever is receiving it.=C2=A0 If AAkoven's packages= truly "reeked of phet" as quoted in my first post, that is a huge problem= and he needs to assume his responsibilities as a vendor.=C2=A0=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: pullinbreezy on May 24, 2012, 12:52= pm

Quo= te from: element12 on May 24, 2012, 08:59 am
It seems like most of the people defending AAkove= n are saying that it's not his fault because customs seized the packages.= =C2=A0

How is this not his fault?=C2=A0 How is AAkoven not able to= get speed (a flat, schedule II powder) past customs but SKYY can sneak thr= ough all his MDMA and pills (schedule I, and much harder to fit in an envel= ope).=C2=A0

How did both Amsterdopes orders show up from the SAME= country as AA, totally unharmed?

His refund policy is fair enough.= I will concede 50% reship makes sense, although many vendors offer more.= =C2=A0 I can't really fault him for it.

However I think customers ha= ve every right to wonder where their package is.=C2=A0 It is not the custom= ers 'fault' for ordering from the Netherlands.=C2=A0 2 packages missing spe= lls bad news.=C2=A0

The vendor's job is to make sure the product ge= ts here.=C2=A0 Shoddy packaging is not only a loss of product, it also hold= s a potential danger from law enforcement to whoever is receiving it.=C2=A0= If AAkoven's packages truly "reeked of phet" as quoted in my first post,= that is a huge problem and he needs to assume his responsibilities as a ve= ndor.

Agreed.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Horizons on May 24, 2012, 08:46 pm

Quo= te from: element12 on May 24, 2012, 08:59 am
It seems like most of the people defending AAkove= n are saying that it's not his fault because customs seized the packages.= =C2=A0

Actually, most of us got our packages. There's just= a very vocal minority which seems to have had bad luck.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: sinister4ng3l on May 25, 2012, 12:13= am

Quo= te from: insomniac on May 23, 2012, 06:04 pm
I'm in the same boat as you, anony. I did not rec= eive the latest order from him, but I also saw that many people from the US= also didn't receive theirs, so I'm thinking it's just a fluke in his order= s that all got seized in the same time window. I also took him up on the re= -ship offer, as I've never had problems with him in the past. 2 orders from= him before made it in 6-7 days. Here's to hoping we both receive our re-sh= ips!! I will definitely need mine soon as a big EDM event is right around= the corner=C2=A0 ;)

Same here!! When did you order from him= ? I ordered on the 8th and nothing's come in yet and I'm freaking out becau= se these packages take FOREVER to come to the US.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Bronangen on May 25, 2012, 02:02 am

Was it a bad idea to order 2 grams of K to the US from him last night?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 25, 2012, 09:41 pm

Quo= te from: Kappacino on May 17, 2012, 02:01 pm
Quote from: fidocscentral on May 17, 2012, 01:30 pm<= /div>
Quote from: Heteroplasmy on= May 17, 2012, 08:39 am
Just received 10 grams=C2=A0 of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discr= eetly! It came in the=C2=A0 people bashing AAkoen are probably competing ve= ndors...

Glad it worked out bud 8)

The reason= people are accusing Aakoven is because he associates with the utter piece= of shit scammer Noriega (who still owes many many people product and doesn= 't even have the courtesy to explain himself) in real life and knows him.= (oh its not his fault blah blah I already hear you shut your fucking mouth= )

Also, you keep failing to notice this dinstinction Aakoven, so per= haps I'll hammer it home one more fucking time for you. You ready? Get goog= le translate up if you need it. Get your hearing aid, pull the strap-on out= of your ass, wipe Noriegas lips clean, and pay fucking attention. Why is= it that out of all the Dutch vendors, you and Noriega have the most US sei= zures?

Why do I not see the same complaints about chemical brothers= , or skyy, or halpern, or one of the MYRIAD of dutch vendors, using exactly= the same postal service as you?

So yes, you don't need to repeat fo= r the 15 fucking millionth time that "if you send out a lot of orders, some= get seized". Yes Aakoven, some get seized. Some get seized, and noone tell= s you about it. Some get seized, and you get a customs letter.

Yet= with your and Noriega's seizures, NO-ONE has received a customs letter?
"Oh well sometimes customs doesn't contact you"

Yes, thank you= for stating the obvious there, but why has NO-ONE received a customs lette= r with one of your seizures? Literally fucking noone at all, and I've been= following all these threads, and your feedback, as Noriega's, and the rest= of the dutch vendors like a fucking HAWK.

I don't deny that you do= many legit transactions, and I suspect now that you know people suspect yo= u that you will be coming through with all your US orders and we will be he= aring about it on the forums, and suddenly everything is fine.

But= you can't pull the wool over a fucking hawk's eyes, and I'd bet my summer= drug stash on the fact that you and your buddy were selectively scamming= the US (you even had it on your vendor profile that US customs had upped= their game.. Nicely done there, nice). That is, before Noriega fucked off= altogether. Yet I've been paying attention this whole time and watching th= is situation very closely.

And one question gives you right the fuc= k away, and I'll be shocked, but not astounded if you can actually answer= it - why was there a spell of time over march-april where your US orders= were getting seized at a RIDICULOUS rate (much much much much more than th= e 5% statistic you love to talk bout), but the other dutch vendors weren't= having the same problem?

What was it, was it your packaging? Did yo= ur drops get identified? Or did US customs just "up their game" for only yo= u and your pal? Or did you talk to each other and think "hey man we can cla= im these orders didn't arrive and make an extra 30% markup"? And also, whil= st I'm in the business of asking questions, where the fuck is your pal nori= ega? You know, the guy you know, that owes thousands of dollars to people.= I mean it's not a big deal or anything, your connections to a known scamme= r, not your fault or anything, not your responsibility, yeah. Keep telling= us how it's nothing to do with you, you never know, you're probably right.=

Your story is nonsense. And I'm not the sort of person to make bas= eless accusations. So grats to all the people in the US that are now receiv= ing orders, but the damage has already been done.

Well said,= when I get to however posts I need to +1 ya i got ya...

Does anybod= y have approx. statistics/opinion on how often letters are sent to buyers= from customs about seized shit?=C2=A0 Like with packages=C2=A0 just up and= disappearing randomly, it doesn't seem probable that customs would just ra= ndomly select who they're gonna send out letters to...Personally I never go= t a single one for a supposed two packages that were shipped to me which I= thought was a little weird.

However, If it does take some time to= send those out I moved out of my apartment early this month and the second= package was sent out early-mid april so I may not get it since I don't hav= e my name associated with anywhere I really live including drivers license.= =C2=A0

The reason I'm wondering is because I am trying to think how= I can help rule out honest mistakes on packaging or selectively scamming= people.=C2=A0 If customs almost always sends out notices that they took sh= it going to that address, then mine and others orders were most likely not= seized but in fact never sent.

Orders been coming in, SR?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: robin999 on May 26, 2012, 11:10 pm

Just wanted to update from what I posted earlier on this thread. I vouc= hed for AA due to our 8 or so successful transactions over the past 8 month= s. My latest order was 30g to northeastern US which was sent on May 1. Took= a loooong time compared to the other orders with him, but it just came in= today 25 days later. He told me there were some mail delays during that ti= me but I really thought it wasn't going to come through. VERY pleasant surp= rise to see the letter in my mailbox this afternoon. Anyway, AA is and alwa= ys has been legit. Nice guy too.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: andyki on May 27, 2012, 05:10 am

There is also the possibility that parcels are getting intercepted by= local customs before they even leave The Netherlands... That would explain= the lack of a seizure letter in the receiving country.

That's what= happened with a vendor in Canada.=C2=A0

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Xbits on May 27, 2012, 06:11 am

I concur.

The very FIRST package I ordered from SR was from AAko= ven.=C2=A0 He offered a reship with 1gr mdma but neither arrived.

I= was pissed...

I heard he doesn't put a return address on them, can= anyone confirm this?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: robin999 on May 27, 2012, 02:21 pm

There's always been a return address on my packages from him. The retur= n address on this last package was actually very clever.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: beardfingers on May 28, 2012, 01:42= pm

his packaging is laughable,, nuff said

spare a steady supply of= lube if u order for when u get fckd by the long dck of le

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on June 01, 2012, 01:39 am

Quo= te from: andyki on May 27, 2012, 05:10 am
There is also the possibility that parcels are gett= ing intercepted by local customs before they even leave The Netherlands...= That would explain the lack of a seizure letter in the receiving country.<= br>
That's what happened with a vendor in Canada.

Just= to let you all know I just received a order of 10g of amazing molly from= pfandleiher in under a week to the same destination-Leave this guy in the= dust and go through PF he's dominating the market on here

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Horizons on June 05, 2012, 01:13 pm

What the hell are you guys on? I just got a letter from AA last Friday.= Vacuum sealed, return address, irreproachable.

I'm starting to thin= k that this is some sort of smear campaign.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: sinister4ng3l on June 05, 2012, 05:11= pm

Quo= te from: Horizons on June 05, 2012, 01:13 pm
What the hell are you guys on? I just got a lette= r from AA last Friday. Vacuum sealed, return address, irreproachable.
I'm starting to think that this is some sort of smear campaign.

Some of his packages make it and some of them don't. It's like that wi= th every seller. I just think the people who ordered things from him a mont= h ago didn't get it from him, mainly because of his re-shipper.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: fuckinblueboy on June 20, 2012, 05:16= pm

Just received pills from aakoven in Europe, no problem. Shipment was ve= ry fast and packaging was very good. Didn't try the product yet.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: dimitri45 on July 01, 2012, 06:53 pm<= /strong>

You people need to wake the fuck up.. Actual elite and loyal vendors he= re dont have this kind of controversy surrounding there names in the forums= !!! It blows my mind how he is still referred to as a trusted seller. Just= because some idiots received there packages and enjoy getting buttfucked= by AA's scams doesnt make him reputable.=C2=A0 But i guess when you make= everyone FE it is pretty easy to slide by on false accomplishments. Please= smarten up people!! Putting 5/5 when you finalize early only targets you= for SELECTIVE scammers such as AA, and only encourages vendors like this= to make it a policy so that they can easily ship out FAKE product and act= like they were none the wiser that there product is pure shitttt, and that= s if they even ship your order at all.. If it doesnt arrive, 90% chance the= y didnt send it at all. And why would they "reship" if they didnt send it= the first time. And then your trapped in their 50% Refund bullshit. How do= you people explain his enormously higher rate for non received pckges than= other NL vendors who use the same mailing system and have 99% delivery rat= e???

AA is by far the worst vendor I have ever had the misfortune of= working with. It doesnt take much searching in the forums to find that AA= fails to meet the standards of a Loyal vendor when it comes to PRODUCT, CO= MMUNICATION, RESOLUTION, or even simple RESPECT. His speed is complete garb= age( maybe get 20% actual product if lucky) and his ketamine was a COMPLETE= JOKE!! I did my full gram in one night just to see how bullshit it really= was, and let me tell you it was pretty clear there was 0% ket in there!!!= On top of scamming his costumers by sending them fake product, when confro= nted with this information he acts like we are high school druggies that wo= uldnt and couldnt know better. He treats his costumers with blatant disresp= ect by acting like we are uninformed and dont know anything on the drugs we= choose to take. And continues to make an even bigger piece of shit of hims= elf by pretending he doesnt have knowledge of the quality of his own produc= ts. He even admits to getting scammed by his dealers!! Which means he was= in full knowledge when he passed on the scam to his buyers!!

If eve= r confronted on any of this nonsense his english returns to a toddler level= and you will have no luck getting a reasonable or respecfull response. He= is absolutely spineless and spits in all of your faces with with his decei= tful bullshit.

BEWARE buyers(especially US) This one is not to be tr= usted!!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on July 01, 2012, 11:27 pm

+1 well said

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:4= 1 pm

I don't order from Netherlands because of my only transaction from AAKO= VEN.
I waited a full month and nothing arrived. I notified him and he of= fered a reship. I waited 3 more weeks and still nothing. I had faith that= it would arrive but I was only disappointed. He offered a 25% refund. Neve= r again.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on July 01, 2012, 11:50 pm

Quo= te from: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:41 pm
I don't order from Netherlands because of= my only transaction from AAKOVEN.
I waited a full month and nothing arr= ived. I notified him and he offered a reship. I waited 3 more weeks and sti= ll nothing. I had faith that it would arrive but I was only disappointed.= He offered a 25% refund. Never again.

Same here, minus the= 25%...how'd you pull that off after the reship?=C2=A0 Would have been nice= to have something back...arg, if this thread was only made before I placed= my order this would have never happened...oh well, you live you learn-I ho= pe that he's been monitoring this thread and taking the criticism seriously= so he can hopefully improve the way he conducts business here.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:5= 4 pm

Quo= te from: DeadRa7 on July 01, 2012, 11:50 pm
Quote from: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:41 pm=
I don't order from Ne= therlands because of my only transaction from AAKOVEN.
I waited a full= month and nothing arrived. I notified him and he offered a reship. I waite= d 3 more weeks and still nothing. I had faith that it would arrive but I wa= s only disappointed. He offered a 25% refund. Never again.
=

Sa= me here, minus the 25%...how'd you pull that off after the reship?=C2=A0 Wo= uld have been nice to have something back...arg, if this thread was only ma= de before I placed my order this would have never happened...oh well, you= live you learn-I hope that he's been monitoring this thread and taking the= criticism seriously so he can hopefully improve the way he conducts busine= ss here.

He said he offered me the refund because I stayed po= lite throughout the whole thing. But yea I wish I would have had a source= like this thread as well to have made a better decision.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 12:02 am

Quo= te from: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am
Hey, I just wanted to share my recent experie= nce with AAkoven and prevent the same from happening to others.

I kn= ew AAkoven was a top vendor (98 rating) so I figured ordering speed from hi= m would be pretty safe, but I ordered almost 2 months ago and have nothing= to show for it.=C2=A0 Perhaps the problem does not lie with him, as most= people are satisfied with his stuff, but rather with the reshipper.=C2=A0= His impossible-to-understand messages did not help his case, though.
My= full conversation transcript will be included in the next post.

Fir= st off, I was a little worried when I noticed (after I ordered) that his li= sting said "i ship not usa," so I messaged him about canceling the order bu= t he said he had already shipped it.=C2=A0

After waiting patiently= for 20 days, nothing had arrived so I asked for a reship.=C2=A0 He offered= 50%, which is less than most vendors but fair enough.=C2=A0 While waiting= for the reship I did a little research and found out that many people had= qualms about his packaging:

"i couldn't believe it, that the custom= s didn't recognize what was inside... you could smell the reek of the phet= from one meter distance through the packaging"
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.= onion/index.php?topic=3D4750.285

"the package was basically pills wr= apped in newspaper and then packaged, no vacuum pack, nothing."
http://d= kn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3D19561.0

"I've got a friend= who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging... knock and talk and sh= it for a couple pills...."
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic= =3D19561.msg200169#msg200169

22 days after reshipping, I still= have nothing.=C2=A0 Obviously I was a little irked.=C2=A0 I've had dozens= of packages arrive from Europe (coherence, blaatzor, amsterdope, juergen,= etc) on the first time.=C2=A0 No way 2 shipments get intercepted for no re= ason--I'm guessing it was the packaging issues mentioned.

I brought= this up to AA and asked for a refund (not full refund, obviously) but he= sent back messages that made no sense and ultimately refused to refund.=C2= =A0

So far, from my point of view this was a terrible buyer's exper= ience.=C2=A0 I paid in full, ended up with nothing, and had to deal with no= nsensical messages and cryptic customer service.

Just wanted to warn= people.=C2=A0 If you're in the UK this most likely does not apply but you= will still have to wade through his broken English.

I'll update if= either of the packages end up coming through.

I have had= similar problems. 1. The order took forever and her told me it had to be= routed through another country (for whatever reason) 2. The packaging was= horrible and only consisted of newspaper and some other plastic wrap 3. Be= fore I even opened the box I saw a liquid soaking through. Yes, the package= was made so poorly that the product was leaking out for anyone to see or= smell including dogs.

I am royally pissed.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:04 am

Quote
I have had similar problems. 1.= The order took forever and her told me it had to be routed through another= country (for whatever reason) 2. The packaging was horrible and only consi= sted of newspaper and some other plastic wrap 3. Before I even opened the= box I saw a liquid soaking through. Yes, the package was made so poorly th= at the product was leaking out for anyone to see or smell including dogs.=

I am royally pissed.

How long ago was this?=C2=A0 Wh= at did you order?=C2=A0 That's fucking unreal.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am

happened less than a month ago. I couldent believe it either. Oh, and= I forgot to mention the order was short too was supposed to be 5 grams, wa= s only 3.5. I told him it was short and he said he would send me the rest.= I haven't seen that either. I don't know how someone with such a lack of= professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the= only one.

DOC

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am

Quo= te from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am
I don't know how someone with such a lack of prof= essionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only= one.

DOC

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image= =3D31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a37.jpg
^This is why

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: brasky on July 02, 2012, 01:52 am

My only experience with AAkoven was that not great. He listed his ketam= ine as a+ pure shit. It wasnt. It was cut to shit with who knows what. I gi= ve him credit he did acknowledge the fact that he does not himself use K an= d was not aware of the actual quality and his listings went down after that= . He offered me a discount of a future order if I planned on it. Not saying= the guy is bad or anything but it was the worst ketamine I have had and I= have sampled multiple sellers here.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 03:21 am

Quo= te from: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am
Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am
<= /div>
I don't know how someone wi= th such a lack of professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviou= sly I'm not the only one.

DOC

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.= onion/view.php?image=3D31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a37.jpg
^This is why=
<= /div>
Are you saying the reviews are fakes? How does he pull that off?=

DOC

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 07:15 am

Quo= te from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 03:21 am
Quote from: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am
<= /div>
<= div class=3D"topslice_quote">Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 201= 2, 01:25 am
I don'= t know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good= rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC
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htt= p://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=3D31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a3= 7.jpg
^This is why
Are you saying the reviews are fakes? How= does he pull that off?

DOC

No, damn near everyone fin= alized early per his request-one comment, which was given a 5/5 stated that= he didn't receive product but given a 50% refund and that was the agreemen= t or some bullshit.=C2=A0 Who knows how many of those people are actually= going to come back and update the feedback even if they don't receive-look= back a few months and there's a significant amount of "FE will update"...m= aybe they're still anxiously awaiting the mailman everyday (I gotta be hone= st, I didn't give up hope until I moved two months after I placed the order= , was hoping for the best)

Even though this happened to me in March= and I'm pretty much over it, I still stay up on this because I'm curious= about whats gonna happen with this guy.=C2=A0 There's just too many red fl= ags, and I feel like he may even be jeopardizing people's safety with such= poor packaging.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I just don't consider him an asset to this com= munity-too sloppy and careless with the possibility of making a few extra= btc a week by giving random people 50% refunds and hoping they don't updat= e their feedback...we'll never know I guess but I guess whatever he's doing= is working so why stop when people order anyways.

=C2=A0

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: fuckinblueboy on July 06, 2012, 07:21= am

Quo= te from: fuckinblueboy on June 20, 2012, 05:16 pm
Just received pills from aakoven in Europe,= no problem. Shipment was very fast and packaging was very good. Didn't try= the product yet.
Some more info : I didn't FE because of what I= read in this thread. It was only 25 pills, but AAkoven sent the package wi= thout asking for FE, so my advice if you order from him is try to not FE.It seems like he's getting mixed reports for other stuff, so research rep= orts for the stuff you're ordering ! The packaging was great too, so I woul= d definitely order more pills from him, but not other stuff=C2=A0 ??? Maybe= he has other people shipping products for him, that would explain why some= packaging is good and some is bad.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: mdmazing on July 06, 2012, 07:21 pm

I'm from the East U.S and I have ordered from AAkoven at least 5 times.= I have received all of my orders from him except for one. The reason I'm= certain I didn't get it is because I sent it to someone's house and addres= sed it with a name that didn't live there. Ever since I have been putting= the real address with the owners name I have had no problems. The first 3= packages I received were perfectly packed and he used an ironed bag. Two= of them were directly from the NL as well. The last one I received was re-= shipped from the UK to make it less suspicious. I noticed though when I rec= eived it the packaging was sub-par. It was only in a baggy with newspaper= in the letter. I'm glad I got it but if I had known it was sent like that= I would have been nervous. I have a feeling that it might not be AAkoven's= fault as much as the person re-shipping it. I have since talked to him and= he said that he does not re-ship anymore, hopefully for that reason but I= do not know. If you have any similar stories please share with the forum= so we can get a better idea on what is going on!

Thanks guys!=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: reacting on July 11, 2012, 06:12 pm

Quo= te from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 03:21 am
Quote from: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am
<= /div>
<= div class=3D"topslice_quote">Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 201= 2, 01:25 am
I don'= t know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good= rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC
<= div class=3D"quotefooter">

htt= p://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=3D31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a3= 7.jpg
^This is why
Are you saying the reviews are fakes? How= does he pull that off?

DOC

I have a friend who is a= buyer like myself and because of his experiences with AA I have NEVER deal= t with him.
My friend has ordered big amounts numerous times and only 50= % (if that) of his orders have come through and only after a re-ship...admi= ttedly the buyer is dealing out of escrow (which i think is dodgy anyway)= so his own fault really.

*Fake reviews would be easy...vendor opens= up as many accounts as he/she wishes as "buyers"
Orders as many times= as he wants, juggling btc and transferring to different wallet #'s as need= ed...
and "leaves feedback here"

Not hard to have fake reviews on= their profiles at all...It is probably necessary for most NEW vendors to= make a few fake transactions and leave feedbacks in order to get real orde= rs from us...
I go through feedback before ordering from a new vendor.=

Anyway, as i said: I won't order from AA....hopefully this post st= ops AA from ripping off a few more euros from the rest of us, peace :)=C2= =A0

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: mdmazing on July 12, 2012, 08:35 pm

I dunno man, I feel that if people were getting screwed over so bad the= re would be a lot more negative ratings. Granted he can make a bunch of fak= e reviews for himself but it would take him a long time just to do that and= out weight all of the bad reviews. He also doesn't speak the best of Engli= sh so I feel that the fake reviews would be really obvious. If he really wa= nted to screw people over he would just let all of his orders stack up and= receive all of his payments without escrow and bail on everyone. After tha= t he could just just make a new name and start selling under that. But he= doesn't do that and hopefully he never does.

AAkoven has never don= e me wrong. <3

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: reacting on July 13, 2012, 01:19 pm

I haven't looked at his profile to see how much business he has on the= road officially, but I'd say he would be doing alot of business privately.= I read a few of my friend's emails from AA....his english is good sometime= s and bad other times. I read one particular email that confesses they rip= people...not small deals (eg.50 pills)-Just the big ones....
Fuck's sak= e, like that would make any buyer feel reassured they hadn't been ripped!= This is FACT. I have no need to right bullshit on here. Like I've said ear= lier, tryin to minimise his profits for nothing scheme cos its a dog act wh= at he has done.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: NotThatGuy on July 26, 2012, 07:29 am=

Recent transactions with Aakoven: I ordered 10 5mg oxys, 2g of speed pa= ste, and 10g of MDMA. The oxys and speed came but the MDMA didn't. This fit= s the behavior you just described of letting the small deals go and scammin= g on the big ones. I'm not saying that that's the case, I'm just stating th= e facts with along with my commentary. Aakoven did give a 50% refund for th= e MD but I still wouldn't do business with him again, for the sole reason= that they don't have "US Buyers Beware" threads of other vendors who have= the same products and are also based in the Netherlands. There, you've bee= n warned. My suggestion would be to just use SuperTrips. He has basically= the same products, provides tracking, and offers a 100% refund or reship= if the product doesn't show so why risk it with Aakoven?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: omghormel on July 26, 2012, 07:33 am<= /strong>

Pretty sure he scammed me 50 defqons. On the 18th day of no show I let= him know and he instantly 'reshipped' them without any questions or even= ask for my address again.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: funyoungguy on July 26, 2012, 04:09= pm

Quo= te from: White Light on May 09, 2012, 09:11 am

I remember a US buyer who was complaining= he was scammed by Dr Amsterdam because he never received 2 packages of 10g= MDMA. A few months later he started a thread explaining he has been busted= .

Any chance you can find this thread and link to it? VE= RY interested to read this and can't find it by searching :)

I had= a 5 gram MDMA package from AA delivered to the South East US in=C2=A0 5 bu= siness days flat. Communication was good, and a lot of care seemed to go in= to the packaging.=C2=A0 I ordered another=C2=A0 10 grams on July 9th and am= still waiting. Communication so far has been good, but this thread is maki= ng me very nervous!=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Holly on July 26, 2012, 04:34 pm

Quo= te from: NotThatGuy on July 26, 2012, 07:29 am
Recent transactions with Aakoven: I ordered= 10 5mg oxys, 2g of speed paste, and 10g of MDMA. The oxys and speed came= but the MDMA didn't. This fits the behavior you just described of letting= the small deals go and scamming on the big ones. I'm not saying that that'= s the case, I'm just stating the facts with along with my commentary. Aakov= en did give a 50% refund for the MD but I still wouldn't do business with= him again, for the sole reason that they don't have "US Buyers Beware" thr= eads of other vendors who have the same products and are also based in the= Netherlands. There, you've been warned. My suggestion would be to just use= SuperTrips. He has basically the same products, provides tracking, and off= ers a 100% refund or reship if the product doesn't show so why risk it with= Aakoven?

10g of mdma being big are you fucking kidding me=C2= =A0 :o 2/3 transacts from a flagged country seems pretty fuckin normal to= me....=C2=A0 also Supertrips has had his own interceptions too as with all= NL vendors/

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: arcanine on July 26, 2012, 09:39 pm

Well I can't say that I'm glad I started reading this post...

I= recognize that I am a new buyer/poster, I have not had much reason for pos= ting until this but have spent several hours browsing the forums.

So= I made my first order on the 7th, almost 3 weeks ago from one of the oldes= t and most "trusted" vendors on SR for MDMA, Aakoven. I ordered 1 gram, fin= alized early per his request, and waited anxiously by my mailbox in western= US. I remember before ordering that I checked to see that there was at lea= st some form of refund policy and it stated that 50% refund is the most giv= en, which is understandable for me I have no problem splitting the loss in= case of one. I understand the NL is a high profile country for the post an= d shit gets picked up from there more often than most.

After the pac= kage had not arrived by this Monday, I decided to let the vendor know and= voice my concern, as politely as possible, that it might never come. He ad= vised me if it doesn't come in by Friday the 26th it probably won't. In the= unfortunate circumstance that my package didn't show up I asked what kind= of recourse he could offer me, i.e some sort of refund or resend. He quick= ly instructed me "check my profile". I go to look and now it appears that= his refund policy has changed and will offer no sort of refund to US custo= mers. I am now waiting a reply to my request of a 50% refund.

I am= still hopeful that the product will arrive and I make no judgement concern= ing the vendor Aakoven yet. However, should it not arrive and the vendor st= ops communication and doesn't offer any kind of refund, I can't help but fe= el like a scammed first time buyer. Would it be offensive to suggest that= some particularly reputable vendors take advantage of first time buyers by= directing them to finalize early? I have another order in transit for LSD= from new seller Jannis that I did not have to finalize for and am looking= forward to that coming in.

Does anyone particularly in the U.S. hav= e any successful experiences with Aakoven as a vendor? I understand how muc= h work being a large scale vendor on the Road can be, but this amount of un= delivered orders can't be normal is it?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 06:30 pm

I hate to do this but, after having AAkoven's back for so long it seems= as if my luck with him has finally ran out. It has been 15 business days= today since I placed my order for MDMA and I haven't received anything yet= . I'm hoping maybe it's a little bit delayed but after all this negative fe= edback it is making me nervous, he seems to have also removed all his listi= ngs for MDMA =3D( I will keep the forums updated.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: darthvaderstar on July 27, 2012, 06:4= 7 pm

Quo= te from: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 06:30 pm
I hate to do this but, after having AAkoven's bac= k for so long it seems as if my luck with him has finally ran out. It has= been 15 business days today since I placed my order for MDMA and I haven't= received anything yet. I'm hoping maybe it's a little bit delayed but afte= r all this negative feedback it is making me nervous, he seems to have also= removed all his listings for MDMA =3D( I will keep the forums updated.
=

his listings are still up

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 06:57 pm

Quote<= /div>
his listings are still= up

some of his listings are up yes, but specifically his crystal= MDMA listings aren't.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Kappacino on July 27, 2012, 07:04 pm<= /strong>

Quo= te from: reacting on July 13, 2012, 01:19 pm
I haven't looked at his profile to see how much= business he has on the road officially, but I'd say he would be doing alot= of business privately. I read a few of my friend's emails from AA....his= english is good sometimes and bad other times. I read one particular email= that confesses they rip people...not small deals (eg.50 pills)-Just the bi= g ones....
Fuck's sake, like that would make any buyer feel reassured th= ey hadn't been ripped! This is FACT. I have no need to right bullshit on he= re. Like I've said earlier, tryin to minimise his profits for nothing schem= e cos its a dog act what he has done.

Got any screens of thos= e emails?

I doubt even a piece of shit like Aakoven would be dumb en= ough to brazenly make such a claim. It could cost him his account. Even a= shit munch like him isn't that much of a moron

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 07:09 pm

^ I'd like to see those e-mails too=C2=A0 :-\

Title: Afraid I've been scammed by aakoven
Post by: kittyxlove on August 09, 2012, 06:47= pm

I ordered from aakoven in haste before leaving my house to go on a trip= .=C2=A0 I wanted my package of K to be on my doorstep ASAP.=C2=A0 I have le= arned my lesson to never ever buy from a seller before reading=C2=A0 the fo= rums!!!=C2=A0 I had such a wonderful first time experience with Ivory that= I just pulled the trigger.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Well, I feel like a dumb ass now.= =C2=A0 =C2=A0I had a bad feeling about this guy aakoven just because of the= price being so low and I stupidly FE.=C2=A0 It's been only a week so there= is a small glimmer of hope that my package will still arrive to the USA,= but after reading the posts I am going to prepare myself for the worst.=C2= =A0

Now after searching for "aakoven" on here, I will search for wh= at will happen to me if A.) My package has been seized and B.)=C2=A0 What= course of action I should take against scammers.=C2=A0 Obviously will repo= rt back again in a week.=C2=A0 But right now I'm pretty sad and a bit scare= d.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Will never order blind again!=C2=A0 Stupid me.=C2=A0 :-(

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: arcanine on August 09, 2012, 07:12 pm=

Happened to me too. I guess every US first timer should go through Aako= ven so they know what its like to be scammed.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: trollsquad on August 09, 2012, 07:17= pm

Quo= te from: arcanine on August 09, 2012, 07:12 pm
Happened to me too. I guess every US first ti= mer should go through Aakoven so they know what its like to be scammed.
=

Meh i prefer tony76

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: funyoungguy on August 10, 2012, 12:30= pm

My second order never arrived. I was given a 75% refund and my first ca= me fast and with no problem so I don't think he is selectively. I think he= needs to offer a tracked option for the US and I would order again.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Theaides on August 11, 2012, 02:32 am=

I was informed my order was sent out about 11 days ago.=C2=A0 No sign= of it yet, though some people have reported 10-13 days on some US orders= from the NL.=C2=A0 Will update on Monday if it still does not arrive.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: sinister4ng3l on August 17, 2012, 12:= 26 am

Quo= te from: Theaides on August 11, 2012, 02:32 am
I was informed my order was sent out about 11= days ago.=C2=A0 No sign of it yet, though some people have reported 10-13= days on some US orders from the NL.=C2=A0 Will update on Monday if it stil= l does not arrive.

When I ordered from AA, my order of 100 pi= lls didn't even come in til a little over a month (I live on the West Coast= by the way).

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Theaides on August 17, 2012, 12:32 am=

We're talking a 10 strip of LSD, a normal letter.

Still waiting,= ~16 days.=C2=A0 I'll continue to be patient but I don't think I want to or= der from NL again after this.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DeadRa7 on August 17, 2012, 02:35 am<= /strong>

Quo= te from: Theaides on August 17, 2012, 12:32 am
We're talking a 10 strip of LSD, a normal let= ter.

Still waiting, ~16 days.=C2=A0 I'll continue to be patient but= I don't think I want to order from NL again after this.

I ha= te this vendor, I really do.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Theaides on August 20, 2012, 07:22 pm=

Okay, pretty sure I've been scammed by this guy.=C2=A0 Now on day 22 wi= th no show, isn't answering PMs.=C2=A0 Stay away from this guy.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Ergot on August 20, 2012, 08:34 pm

I bought 5 Alice Tabs, delivered quickly, I live in the U.E., the= letter is not discrete !

=C2=A0But mostly it is not lsd !!! , >:= (

=C2=A0I left 4=C2=A0 in the fridge and I'll throw everything in th= e trash. :-X :o

=C2=A0The test was not nice! probably Rc or other cr= ap.

Avoid !=C2=A0 ;)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: Ordinary Guy on August 20, 2012, 09:0= 9 pm

I remember looking on his page a while back, he said he didnt want to= deal with US orders. After i saw that, i didnt really care about his succe= ss rate to the states, i just let it be. xO

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: bxs2nnwtfaid on August 20, 2012, 10:4= 7 pm

recently made my first order off SR from AA.. tried to search for infor= mation on him beforehand but unfortunately the search option on this forum= is not very efficient. His feedback seemed good and since he has been arou= nd for a long time i figured it was a pretty safe bet. It has only been a= week but i have no received, based on reading all these comments would you= suggest that i try to resolve when i am able to in 5 days? I also found it= strange that, as of the day after my order, he no longer has any listings= in the Ecstasy section on SR.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: RippedOff! on September 11, 2012, 09:= 16 am

I am a new buyer and I orders 200 pills from AAKOVEN about 6 weeks ago.= The order totaled $1200.00. I know that you should not FE and I did not wa= nt to! I requested to have my auto-finalize date extended through the resol= ution center because I hadn't received anything yet and he messaged me aski= ng me to finalize because I am a new buyer. I saw his rating was pretty hig= h and I trusted that he had sent them so STUPIDLY I finalized! This was the= biggest mistake I have made in a long time.

I borrowed the $1200.00= from someone so that I could get this venture going so I could start makin= g money off importing these pills. After 6 weeks I have received NOTHING!= He told me that he would send in two separate envelopes and neither have= arrived. I also orders 1g cocaine and 10 LSD blotters on the same day that= I orders the pills and both of those arrived after 3 weeks. They were both= waiting in my post box together. I do not believe that both packages were= stolen because that is just unfuckingbelievable! What are the chances that= both packages from the same vendor get stolen and everything makes it thro= ugh fine? Absolute bullfuckingshit!!!!

I'm now sitting with a $1200.= 00 debt and I know that he fucked me over on this order! But what I don't= understand is why he would rip off someone who is making such a big order?= Clearly I was going to be a good customer but now that he butt-fucked me= I will most definitely not be doing business with him again and I recommen= d that no else should either! If you do - STAY IN ESCROW!!!!

Through= my communication with him, he didn't even know where the fuck I was from,= after telling him TWICE before he still got it wrong, TWICE! Thought I was= from two different countries. I know he never sent them, just pocketed my= cash! He also told me that he will send me 10 pills as a tester to see if= they make it - I guarantee you they will get "stolen" again! He never fuck= ing sent these ones either! Bet your fucking ass-off!!! Besides, like 10 wi= ll make up for the $1200.00 loss I've now got!

FUCK AAKOVEN! I will= be much better off buying from someone else like SKYY in future! If this= was real-world I'd cut his fucking nuts off for this amount of money!!!
Anyway, I've accepted after 6 weeks of anxiously waiting that they wil= l not be coming so now I'm just out to warn everyone about this fuck-tard!!= !!

My order of $1200.00 should also impact his rating greatly, pitty= it was a custom listing so no one will be able to see my review!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: kittyxlove on September 15, 2012, 01:= 30 am

The prick only got about $200 from me.=C2=A0 I'm so sorry about your lo= sses!=C2=A0 Please contact SR and get the fucktard out of here!!=C2=A0 It's= been over a month and I have no package and no refund.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: kittyxlove on September 15, 2012, 09:= 26 pm

Holy fuck!=C2=A0 I just realized you can go back after you've FE'd and= edit your review!=C2=A0 Go to Account -- Account Links (right hand side)= -- View feedback -- Edit!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01= :10 am

I hear yah guys same thing happened to me when i was new, saw aakoven's= cheap prices and outlandish claims about his narcotics then took it at fac= e value, blindly trusted him and FE. 3 seperate packages were meant to have= been sent, 2 G Speed (x2) and 5G Speed (x1).

=C2=A0I first made the= order of the 5G and 2G at the time, i was hoping to make some fast cash fo= r a developing opiate problem =3D/. Neither showed up and looking back i do= n't know why i did it (live and learn i guess) Anyway when i told him and= pretty much was like What Now? He told me he would resend The 2G package= then asked for my address, about 3 months (i reckon it was more like 1-2= months) later i received a love letter saying 2G of unidentified powder ha= d been seized.

Now first, you think aussie customs would know wtf sp= eed looks like, especially if it was as good as this guy is claiming. I've= seen other love letters and they list what they believe the product to be,= =C2=A0 the guys who caught mine obviously had no fucking idea what it was.= After research i learnt that its basically caffiene with little to no spee= d in it anyway, now i understand exaggeration and how its used in marketing= . But Caffeine? comon that's false advertising, your setting yourself up fo= r a beating. Hell where i live people get stabbed with dirty fits for a hit= , if he tried that in person he'd be fucking dead (i wouldn't do such a thi= ng for speed, but these crazy crackheads...). People shoot this shit up you= fucking psycho! I admit it's stupid to shoot up, but i think it's arrogant= to give them dangerous drugs and expect them to conform to you ROA, its th= ere fucking choice and if your speed is too shit to IV then fucking put it= in the listing.

But ofcourse the real mystery is why would customs= only pick up one of three packages? Aussie customs ain't what its cracked= up to be, i guess we just have a shit load of sniffer dogs (our countries= like a huge fucking backyard in some ways). Furthermore if they picked up= 3 packages with the same name i think that would have been in the letter,= especially if they had been sent earlier =3D/.

Now i don't really= care anymore and i'm thankful that it happened early and in hindsight i on= ly trusted him because speed is fucking expensive where i live (250 for any= thing remotely okay), and i was expecting medium purity around 50-60%, so= the good deal made me jump like every desperate junkie does when they see= money. And i saw fat fucking dolla bills i can tell you. Oh and newbies,= the first 5 things i ordered never came. Relax, always use the forums and= if shit goes south. Well never invest what you can't afford, i know sucks= but better to learn sooner than later. Yeh i spent about $250 before i lea= rned my lesson, but that was partly fucking Noriega disappearing act, manag= ed to order just before people realized he'd fucked off and i had already= FE....

I learned eventually, doesn't matter which country you go to= ... Most of the time Its the criminals selling drugs or its the fuckwit wit= h a habit and It's very rarely someone who has a business ethic. But we are= lucky enough to have some good uns here on SR, i won't mention any for fea= r that putting them in this thread will make people think that I'm advertis= ing for them, maybe i am, but thats how a lot of good business is run you= have to remember; "word of mouth". If people like what your doing they'll= shout it from the rooftops.

Anyway AA i'll leave the 5 i gave you,= no point taking it back now and its no longer listed seeing as all my succ= essful orders seem to have pushed it off screen, whats one opinion in a sea= of FE anyway? I dunno if you did scam me but it is quite suspicious, but= then again who knows. Either way your getting plenty of business and i don= 't buy from you. Plus simple solution if your listening, don't sell to Aust= ralian or US customers, you are obviously too shit to package things proper= ly for us.

Yeh i know flagged country, thats a fucking excuse and= a half. Also your the only Netherlands vendor to be this notorious, i gues= s that means your also the shittest. I'm being way to offensive for my own= good hear but ripping off a nice near-junkie(no offense, playful term wher= e I'm from) like that $1200? If you can't confirm 100% on bulk then don't= do bulk, this ain't a game, this is peoples lives your screwing up. For mo= ney talk about petty mate.

Oh and i recommend ignoring me AAkoVen,= i'm withdrawing like nothing else right now. I'm sure to within Europe peo= ple appreciate your service and will for months coming, just don't bother= with AUS and US anymore please or at least AUS double Please. We only Wing= e and bitch anyway, well thats what your opinion of us seems to be anyway.=

Although I've gotten ripped off with street drugs plenty of times= and in those situations i was not offered a 50% refund for the bunk shit= i received.

P.S. Ofcourse he has good MDMA guys, his in the fuckin= g Netherlands, he would have to have crippling brain damage to get burnt bu= ying mandy over there. Or be cutting it himself, but i doubt that. I think= the speed is probably bunk like the K is. I wouldn't get anything but MDMA= off him personally and i hate the shit so extra reasons to not bother!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01= :20 am

okay perhaps 100% is a little high, but most good vendors state that bu= lk has a 95% chance of getting through.So 19 in 20 make it. (its not statis= tically sound for multiple people to lose both ship and reship unless your= not trying to hard enough with the packaging. Hell i reckon i could get so= mething illegal and medium size to states with no drama's, once i work out= a method i don't have to change anything till one gets caught.=C2=A0 Perso= nally i think for the good vendors its more like 99% for almost any country= and 1% that it gets caught and 0.0000001% that the postman steals it. Its= really not that hard either, if you don't have any ideas order from a vend= or with good postage. Like shit why do you fail fo hard.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01= :33 am

Quo= te from: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01:10 am
Yeh i know flagged country, thats a fucki= ng excuse and a half. Also your the only Netherlands vendor to be this noto= rious, i guess that means your also the shittest. I'm being way to offensiv= e for my own good hear but ripping off a nice near-junkie(no offense, playf= ul term where I'm from) like that $1200? If you can't confirm 100% on bulk= then don't do bulk, this ain't a game, this is peoples lives your screwing= up. For money talk about petty mate.

Sorry did not mean to= say that you ripped her off, impossible to prove and ridiculous to try.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: kittyxlove on September 18, 2012, 02:= 46 am

Just got a message from SR.=C2=A0 They're on it!=C2=A0 So long Aakoven!= !=C2=A0 =C2=A0

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: DoobeeZ on September 18, 2012, 07:40= am

So um.. I'm not sure what you guys are doing wrong but I highly doubt= AA is a scammer. I have sent him well over 5k (FE, too) and received every= thing perfectly. Printed labels, vac-seal etc. Some of his products might= not be the best, but if you just do your research on the forums its fine
I've also sent one of his friends high five-figure amounts and receiv= ed everything fine, like clockwork..

Also I have reagent tested the= Alice in Wonderlands and Hoffmanns from AAkoven and they came up positive= on an Ehrlich test. They might not be the strongest, but its definitely L,= and constantly available

I'm not saying that anyone who claims they= didn't receive their package from him are lying. I just think that when yo= u're ordering controlled substances in the mail from an extremely high-risk= country you shouldn't immediately scream "SCAMMER SCAMMER" when it doesn't= arrive. Believe it or not, smuggling drugs is illegal...

Also, to= that 'topstopplop' guy, you had 3 non-arrivals from the same vendor, and= you sent him $1200!?!?!? DAMN, junkies get stupider every fucking day

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: m=C3=BCslix on September 18, 2012, 09= :45 am

If he still seals everything with this black, strong metal(?) foil, it= will probably light up like a christmas tree when x-rayed. I was told US-c= ustoms do a lot of x-raying. So a lot of US buyers not receiving could be= because of stupidity rather then intentional scam, not that far-fetched im= ho. But since he his accused a lot of doing that, it wouldn't surprise me= if he was like "since everyone's already saying it, I can actually do it= as well" (with lots of special characters added).

Quote from: topstopplop= on September 16, 2012, 01:10 am
I've seen other love letters and they list what they believe= the product to be,=C2=A0 the guys who caught mine obviously had no fucking= idea what it was. After research i learnt that its basically caffiene with= little to no speed in it anyway, now i understand exaggeration and how its= used in marketing. But Caffeine? comon that's false advertising,
It was labtested by a forum user here, results where 5% speed, 31% cafein= e, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
Caffeine is the most popular adulte= rant for speed in europe, over 80% of analyzed samples contain caffeine. Th= e actual rip off is the 5% of amphetamine. It's actually a pretty silly thi= ng to do, since most speed users won't notice such small amounts anyway. He= could just leave it out as well. My guess is, that it's added to fool a Ma= rquis test.

Phenylacetone (aka BMK/P2P) is a precursor to amphetami= ne, don't think anyone would add it on purpose. Effects are not studied, an= ecdotal reports suggest it acts as some sort of stimulant, but no euphoria= whatsoever. There's warnings about possible health risks. It's probably le= ft from shitty manufacture, which matches aakoven's ideology - selling only= the cheapest stuff that makes the most profit. He really doesn't care abou= t quality. Said so himself.

It really depends how you define scam,= promising 50-60% amphetamine and delivering 5% can be called scam imho. Op= inions may vary though. I don't really care anymore, way too long ago, what= struck me as the most arrogant was him not even replying when I mentioned= it. One could argue that everyone over-advertizes their speed, which is (a= ) not true and (b) still no valid reason to do it (most recent case: MrFire= UK advertising 92% speed incl. report from labtest, sending out 40% speed).=

I don't really give a shit anymore, everyone can do a research on= the forum and will find all of the above. Still no one does it. Sorry to= say, but it's partly your own fault.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: m=C3=BCslix on September 18, 2012, 09= :57 am

Quo= te from: DoobeeZ on September 18, 2012, 07:40 am
Also I have reagent tested the Alice in Wonde= rlands and Hoffmanns from AAkoven and they came up positive on an Ehrlich= test. They might not be the strongest, but its definitely L, and constantl= y available

How you guys do FE on orders of >1k and don't= even research the reviews of the vendor is totally beyond me. It's an invi= tation to being ripped off.

Alice was very inconsistent, was mentio= ned pretty often, so neither the guys claiming it's good nor the guys sayin= g it has no LSD were necessarily lying. Hofmann tabs are just poor quality= combined with very low dosage (51ug iirc). If you consider this a rip off= or not is up to your interpretation.

Screwing up an lsd letter is= pretty hard though. If anyone can get that done it's probably him.=20

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: RippedOff! on September 18, 2012, 10:= 32 am

So AAKOVEN saw my posts in the forum and replied to me. I suspect that= he knew that he was going to scam from the very first message he sent me= and asked me to do a direct deal with him so he doesn;t loose 3% which I= see is not allowed here on SR so I will once again be contacting the SR ad= min about this.

Here is my communication between him and I, the bott= om is the first message I sent him and top is most recent:

Me: And= on a side note, I'm the only ecstasy dealer in my town, I could have guara= nteed to buy at least 200 a week from you (and im expanding so it would be= a lot more in the next month or two), so really, you only fucked yourself= over, by making sure I never buy from your sorry ass again! I actually hav= en't lost out, I worked a deal with another dealer here on the road for 50= pills and I'll start from there, again, like I have done before! Turns out= they're a lot cheaper than you as well! $3.80 each! So now im scoring more= profit in the end, thanks!

CUNT

Me: Oh, and by the way, I gu= arantee that those other 10 aren't coming either. Once again you didn't sen= d them! This will be your cover-up, because these once will get "stolen" ag= ain. Funny though, I bought another two products same time as yours, also= from NL, both of them arrived quite fine, so don't fucking bullshit me abo= ut this, I know you never fucking sent them!

Yes, rather stop talkin= g you dishonest little fuck-face!

Me: Yeah, and considering that I= am the only E dealer in town, I would know if anyone else had them!
aakoven(91): lol, u show your true colors .

go for it , many sad th= at before ..

U are a dumb cunt..Fact have a great weekend...looser.<= br>
@You and I both know very well \ no know shit ..go to your post offi= ce and ask who stole your shit , some one must selling blue deq...
its= not that hard to find the prick..or ,mebe u are to stupid

And= now..an done talking...stupid fuck..

Me: You're the asshole here!= Not me! Did I rip anyone off? NO! YOU DID! You and I both know very well= that you never sent me those parcels. Like I said, the chances of both fro= m you happen to get "stolen". I'm not a fucking retard! I see many posts on= the forums about you selective scamming people so I'm not the only one! An= d clearly your rating is starting to show it too! Enjoy my 1 you fucking pr= ick! You won't be able to do this for much longer! I'm going to do anything= and everything I can to make sure you can't do this to anyone else! If it= means sending a PM to each and every person Silk Road I'll do that - thats= for fucking me over, cunt!

aakoven(91): Wow, u are a real asshole= ...wtf, RAT ...if u did read my terms, ?

i re send, as a test and= go from there, to help u ,back on the horse..like i always do..
and i= even give u money back..[ and u have a right on it as u can red in my prof= ile ]

And now...i stab me in the back on the forum...Now i know what= a person u are, A rat..
and think about it , who lend money , to buy do= pe. online very risky bizz.
wen it will be send to Afr ...and it get sto= len, yes...not customs....is that my fouled?

i dont think so........= .......pfff well, u are broke and u deserve it .

Asshole...
<= br>aakoven(91): wait on the pills to come plz..

Me: Hi, could you at= least do a 50% refund so I can at least regain some of my loss. Please, at= least this will get me in the clear. I will really appreciate it and will= let everyone know that you help me out immensely! Thanks in advance AA!
aakoven(91): i will give u...25 % back..as i also sen u some pills aga= in.!!

am sorry m8...

Me: Listen mate, could I just get a= refund. I don't want to risk loosing more than I already have. I just want= my money back so I'm not in shit with the diamond dealers that I borrowed= the cash from. I know it's not in your terms and conditions but you make= a lot of cash i'm sure so please could you help me out on this buddy! Plea= se! I'm in so much shit here you don't even understand. The average salary= here is $200 just to show you how much $1200.00 really is here, that's 6= months of my salary and I've just gotten off the phone with these guys and= they're not happy with me. I thought everything would work out and now it= hasn't so I'm really fucked here unless you can help me. Please AA! I'm be= gging you!!!

aakoven(91): let me know wen they arrive

Me: I= will let you know if they arrive anytime from now but it's not looking goo= d, it's taken far too long for me to even keep some hope of them arriving..= .

Me: Thats the thing, I don't believe that anyone has stolen them.= Everything else came through fine except those two packages which were sen= t on different days so it doesn't make sense that both packages got stolen= from you?

aakoven(91): take it step by step...if u tell me Who stol= e them...?

i can send again, but on your end , someone steal your pi= lls buddy

Me: Okay so if I get the test will you send me more? At le= ast if I can get 100 then I can make enough money to pay the guy back that= I borrowed from and I will be bale to buy another 200 from you so I can ke= ep in business, with only 10 I can make $350 so that wont be enough to plac= e another order or to pay the guy back... Please help me on this one mate!<= br>
aakoven(91): i have send a test..as all was Stolen.!!!
u think I= want to send again..before i don,t know it arrive..
Its not customs ..w= ho fought them m8

Me: Okay so how many will you be sending this tim= e? I am at a huge loss here! Even if I get 10 it's not going to make up for= the 1200 that i spent. I cannot loose all this money. If you can send me= those 200 I will definitely be back, you may not make money from this lot= but neither will I if you don't help me out which means then that I will= not have more money to buy more from you in future. At least if I get thes= e I will make some money and will buy more from you, even more than last ti= me! Please help me out on this one. What can we do here?

aakoven(91)= : U ask me last time 2x100 so i did......

lets try this.......
AA

Me: No I am the one from *****. Did you send two packages each= with 100 to *****? Maybe someone is stealing but like I said everything el= se has made it through fine so far. My address is:

*********
****= *****
*********
*********

Thank you mate!

aakoven(91):= am u are the guy from Sud A..wow nothing arrive..that means for me some mu= st steal it.

its was send in a dubble folded strong flop, Glued clos= ed...so most easy to open u have to rip it..

So someone there is ste= aling...

let me send u a small flop. i put 10 in ok...

let se= e ...give me the add?

Me: Then I am lost as to why they haven't arr= ived? For both packages not to arrive when everything else has arrived fine= . I borrowed cash because I am bringing them in for someone who is going to= re-sell them and I am making some money from it too but I didn't have cash= to get started so I borrowed money from an illegal diamond dealer to get= me started.

Is there anything we can do here to sort something out= because I'm in big shit if I don't get anything! Please! I will be a retur= ning customer, this I promise you! I have heard that these defqons are the= best and your price is the best! What can we do my brother?

aakove= n(91): I always send wen the order come in..
and i trust MY customers Fe= ...

wow U borw $$ for to buy dope...that is not a smart move m8
<= br>Me: Would you have only sent them out when I finalized? Or did you send= out when I placed the order? It has been well over a month and no sign of= anything... I'm just trying to keep my hopes up here because im going to= be in a lot of shit if they don't arrive. I borrowed this money from someo= ne and they are now starting to ask questions about when they'll get their= cash back so I'm just trying to look for a time frame. I placed the order= over a month ago but only finalized 18 days ago, could you have perhaps se= nt it out then?

My order was:
custom order Me:=C2=A0 aakoven(94)= 5 of 5 Have trust in Aakoven! Will update once arrived! 18 days ago edit
Thanks!

aakoven(91): I have send , Copy paste it to the add= U provided me.

Me: Hi there, after one month I still have nothing.= Could you perhaps tell me what address it was that you sent to? Thanks
=
aakoven(91): ok sure.......

Me: Okay, I will just have to wait= and see. I really do hope they make it here because I cannot loose 1200!= Thanks, will update when I know more, cheers

aakoven(91): I see it= ,. 1 out today.!!
second in 2 days.\ 26 days read

U can read it= your self here.....it was packed it double folded flops..U see feel smell= nothing as there where , Iron sealed.

And we glue it extra close...= so u must Rip it open, with force ,..

AA

Me: Hi, I just want= to confirm when you sent me two parcels? I ordered another two products on= the same day as you and they arrived last week. I haven't received anythin= g that I ordered from you yet??? I'm starting to get a bit worried because= 1200 is a lot of money here where I am and now I don't have anything for= it? It's been 26 days since I ordered from you and still nothing??? Please= , when did you send them? How long ago?

aakoven(91): O i will......= .D

Me: Okay mate, because I am interested in doing a lot more busine= ss with you I will release the funds. I hope you will remember me in future= ;-)

aakoven(91): agh u..yes...wow that long........And why i must= wait so long?
that my bitc come free?

did u read terms..plz give= me a break..i need to sell to buy new pills.

Me: No, I am from ****= ***. I am the one that ordered 200 Blue Defqons. Nothing has arrived yet,= I have read in the forums that it may take up to 24/25 days to arrive. I= will let you know when they arrive.

aakoven(91): u are from Argenti= na?

the first did not arrive jet? (THIS WAS AFTER I REQUESTED THE AU= TO-FINALIZE DATE TO BE EXTENDED BY 10 DAYS)

Me: Okay great stuff! Th= anks!

aakoven(91): I see it,. 1 out today.!!
second in 2 days.\
Me: Okay thank you very much! I have made the purchase!

aakove= n(91): i will make it now.....2x100 it is.

Me: Yes I will order ASAP= . I am just waiting for the last of my bitcoins to come from mt-gox so I wi= ll have enough.

aakoven(91): i will, order asap. i can send the firs= t out today.!!

U have the coins??

Me: Please could you send= 2x100. Thank you very much!

aakoven(91): U want i send in
2x100<= br>1x200

Me: Okay thank you very much! I look forward to getting the= se! I recently bought two here locally and they were amazing and that's how= I ended up coming across the road. Can't wait :D

aakoven(91): its= in ; Yubikeys down...> the pace.

112 bitc.

U want i send= in
2x100
1x200

Me: Okay thanks a lot!

aakoven(91): ok.= ..give me 5min ok i make add.
And tell u where

Me: It is my first= time buying here so I would prefer if I can stay on Silk Road. How much is= your best price for 200? I will try ask in the forums for someone to give= me a loan.

aakoven(91): i can do...but it more easy and more cheap.= to do this deal direct..
or i loose again 3 %..if u want to stay on sr.= .then i send less pills as u pay the fee.

mail me here hoof@tormail.= org

Me: Hello, I have received my money from mt-gox so I am ready to= buy but I only have $1100 and I would like to buy 200 of your Red Defqons.= Would you possibly be able to give me a small discount for buying this qua= ntity? I hope you will be able to create a custom listing for me so that I= can buy them :D Thank you!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: human5 on September 24, 2012, 07:14= pm

past 3 products recieved have been bunk. my mistake as I hadn't taken= the proper time to evaluate their individual quality. order 2 shipments of= 10g speed, both bunk had to sniff enough to make my nose bleed in order to= feel any euphoria. ordered 2 grams ketamine, was 2 grams with the bag and= was TERRIBLE quality... didn't do shit whether I sniffed, swallowed, or I.= M. injected. few months back ordered 10g mdma, didn't show up, got a 5g rep= lacement shipment of ok quality but I suspect the original 10g was never se= nt in the first place based on the rumors going on around here about him,= the manner in which he is responding and just the overall feel of the tran= sactions we've had. below is an excerpt from a messaging convo. he is clear= ly trying to con me into making another purchase, but upon seeing other fee= dback on his page, I refuse to do so without product replacement. If he wer= e a good vendor, a small loss like a product replacement would be considere= d a wise investment to keep the business coming. Needless to say, we will= not be doing business any longer.

human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0sorry, you're getting outdone by other vendors bro. it was nice doing bu= siness while it lasted =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A06 minutes =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0unread=
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aakoven(89) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0thx u sir well done =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A05 hours =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
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human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0all ratings changed to 1* =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A06 hours =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re= ad
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human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0yeah, bro that shit was hella bunk= . replace with quality product or we no longer do business and I change my= ratings to 1* =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A019 hours =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
delete<= br>human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0yeah, bro that shit was hella bunk. replace wit= h quality product or we no longer do business =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A019 hours = =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
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human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0no offense man= , but if anything I will just get the k elsewhere... unless you can show me= that you can provide quality... I already paid for bunk product =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A03 days =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
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aakoven(89) =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0mebe the packing Dep made an error..on your next order put same ke= ta and..we fix it buddy. :+)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: human5 on September 27, 2012, 06:10= pm

let me know if you can smell the obvious bullshit

human5 =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0about 9 months, charlie. I'm sure there are many sheep on this= road, however I am a serious buyer who is usually more precocious.
it's= not only about how long someone is on the road but more so their devotion= to satisfying the customer.
at this point in time, I feel I have been= ripped off with lightly underweight, extremely poor quality ketamine.
I= just noticed that the one time I recieved the 10g amphetamine paste (order= ed twice, only one arrived) I only got 5g.
I was busy, hadn't noticed,= and trusted you at the time so I didn't mention.
I previously ordered= 10g of MDMA which ended up not showing up, which now I suspect is because= it was never sent. Granted I did get a 50% reship.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A022= hours =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
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aakoven(89) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0ho= w long u are here sir? on the road..people are sheep,
can u name one sel= ler who is more long on the road? =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 day =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0read
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human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0well shit, gimme some new k= then this shit is hell bunk and burns like hell!

perhaps I made a= hasty judgement. I saw a few feedback posts which called you a selective= scammer =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 day =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
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aakove= n(89) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0lol dont worry , its light , u dont know me, my hea= rt is pure..
u for giving me bad feedback...it will come for u...not me.=

I make a lot people happy, and some NOT.fact ./
its a part off= this job.

pfffffffff its hot here. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01 day =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0read
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human5 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0have a good one, don= 't get bitch smacked by karma =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 days =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0re= ad
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aakoven(89) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0fact off life........times ar= e changing ..NP.

u think its nice to be 1 %..seller here....work 7= days a week, 18 h a day..

am happy where i am..today am leaving ...= NL..forever... hahahahahahaha.

u take care...Bro.. :+)

AA =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 days =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0read
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human5 =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0sorry, you're getting outdone by other vendors bro. it was nice do= ing business while it lasted =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 days =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0rea= d
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Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers REJOICE
Post by: celestine on September 27, 2012, 09:1= 8 pm

OK first of all I have to say something to AA, yea that's what I call= him; AA.=C2=A0 I am sorry I know we were on th "D.L."=C2=A0 but I cant let= these monsters go on talkin' bout you like this.=C2=A0 He told me he liked= me and would take care of things and even ship me half of what he said he= would in the first place, now I know he will cause he said he will and I= trust him cause I am a desperate fat bitch who believed that he would call= me in the morning and that he=C2=A0 sniiff sniff sniff would call me after= I didnt put on a rubber and FEed all up inside and now what am i soposed= todo now. oh oh OMG oh shit AAAA please pick up baby illovv........=C2=A0= =C2=A0never=C2=A0 =C2=A0FE=C2=A0 =C2=A0just a little story from the road= never FE keep that Rubber on. Keep control. and wash your hands.

I= LOVE this place.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: CyberDMT on October 03, 2012, 05:55= pm

He had the worst attitude i've ever been treated with here on SR. Also= no refund even tho he never send me the package. I made an order for it an= d missed the texted where he told me I needed to FE. Later I got a PM with= so much disrespect so I said I don't want the product anymore. He gave me= a 5% refund and never even send the product to me.

Edit:
Note:= I live in Sweden not the USA.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: singulrarity on October 07, 2012, 06:= 20 am

Ordered a gram of Ketamine sent to the USA and it mysteriously never go= t here. Tried to extend the deadline in the resolution center, and instead= got the same rudeness and 5% refund offer everyone else seems to get now.<= br>
*shrug*

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
Post by: arcanine on October 25, 2012, 06:21= am

Can we seriously get SR Support to look into this piece of shit? It's= obvious that he's selectively scamming if not scamming just about everyone.

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Market =3D> Rumor mill =3D> Topic started by:= element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am